[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading two fathers last names

[sdarosa]

Margaret, I can definitely see that it could be Ferreira. The letter F
is the same as the F In Furtado and you really see it when zoomed in.
I will add this possibility into my searching because Perreira is
bringing up nothing over a 45 year period.
Thanks
Suzanne
On Feb 12, 7:10 pm, Margaret Vicente 
wrote:
> Hi Suzanne,
>
> Hi read:
>
> 1.Jose Ferreira and Maria Furtada, deceased as the parents of Manuel
> Furtado de Mendonca.
> 2.  Witnesses are Amaro Teixeira de Sousa and Manuel Ferreira Madruga.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Margaret Vicente
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 3:18 PM, sdarosa  wrote:
> > I was wondering if someone would mind having a look at this record for
> > the marriage of Manoel Furtado de Mendonça to Maria de Avila, 1723.
>
> >http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/SJVVC1701-1734/SJ...
>
> > I am doing research on the Manoel's father and mother.  In this
> > record, at first glance it appears that his last name is Joze Perreira
> > but as I look at it, I see an X in the name, and am wondering if it
> > looksTexeira to anyone else.
>
> > also is Maria's father is Silvestre de Viz?
>
> > The Perriera/Teixera name clarification would make a big difference in
> > my searching because I have found various records for Joseph Teixera
> > and Maria Furtado during the 40 years I am searching, but no birth,
> > marriage, death records or births of children under Maria Furtado/a
> > and Jose Pereira.  If I have been reading the marriage record of their
> > son Manoel wrong, this would clear a lot of things up.
>
> > Thanks
> > Suzanne
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading two fathers last names

[sdarosa]

I've gone back to Maria Furtada's obituary and it is very clear there
that the abbreviation of her deceased husband's last name begins with
the exact same F as written in Furtado.  So I'll begin the search for
Ferreira and see what happens! I'm encouraged and of course won't be
surprised if some other mystery shows up!

If anyone is searching for a Joze Ferreria or Maria Furtado, Velas,
would have been born mid 1600's, let me know
Suzanne

On Feb 13, 7:42 am, sdarosa  wrote:
> Margaret, I can definitely see that it could be Ferreira. The letter F
> is the same as the F In Furtado and you really see it when zoomed in.
> I will add this possibility into my searching because Perreira is
> bringing up nothing over a 45 year period.
> Thanks
> Suzanne
> On Feb 12, 7:10 pm, Margaret Vicente 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi Suzanne,
>
> > Hi read:
>
> > 1.Jose Ferreira and Maria Furtada, deceased as the parents of Manuel
> > Furtado de Mendonca.
> > 2.  Witnesses are Amaro Teixeira de Sousa and Manuel Ferreira Madruga.
>
> > Good luck,
>
> > Margaret Vicente
>
> > On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 3:18 PM, sdarosa  wrote:
> > > I was wondering if someone would mind having a look at this record for
> > > the marriage of Manoel Furtado de Mendonça to Maria de Avila, 1723.
>
> > >http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/SJVVC1701-1734/SJ...
>
> > > I am doing research on the Manoel's father and mother.  In this
> > > record, at first glance it appears that his last name is Joze Perreira
> > > but as I look at it, I see an X in the name, and am wondering if it
> > > looksTexeira to anyone else.
>
> > > also is Maria's father is Silvestre de Viz?
>
> > > The Perriera/Teixera name clarification would make a big difference in
> > > my searching because I have found various records for Joseph Teixera
> > > and Maria Furtado during the 40 years I am searching, but no birth,
> > > marriage, death records or births of children under Maria Furtado/a
> > > and Jose Pereira.  If I have been reading the marriage record of their
> > > son Manoel wrong, this would clear a lot of things up.
>
> > > Thanks
> > > Suzanne
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Geneology software

[Rich]

What is the best geneology software?  I would like to she your pros
and cons. Rich

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading two fathers last names

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Hi Suzanne, & Margaret,

 

Looking again this morning I now agree with Margaret that the name is
Ferreira. While the writing on the record in question is difficult to
discern the capitol letters “F, P &T” I now see two things. The spelling of
Ferreira has a double r where the spelling of Pereira has a single r. If you
look on the left side of that page you will see the name of Bento Pereira at
the top and see how the writer wrote Pereira as compared to Ferreira. I
don’t know how many times I have had difficulty in reading those two names
in records because of the way the writer wrote. I hope this settles the
question for you.

 

Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Spring, TX

Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire 

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande,
Sao Miguel, Acores

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Margaret Vicente
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 7:10 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading two fathers last names

 

Hi Suzanne,

 

Hi read:  

 

1.Jose Ferreira and Maria Furtada, deceased as the parents of Manuel Furtado
de Mendonca.

2.  Witnesses are Amaro Teixeira de Sousa and Manuel Ferreira Madruga.

 

Good luck,

 

Margaret Vicente

On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 3:18 PM, sdarosa  wrote:

I was wondering if someone would mind having a look at this record for
the marriage of Manoel Furtado de Mendonça to Maria de Avila, 1723.
http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/SJVVC1701-1734/SJVVC1701
-1734_item1/P92.html

I am doing research on the Manoel's father and mother.  In this
record, at first glance it appears that his last name is Joze Perreira
but as I look at it, I see an X in the name, and am wondering if it
looksTexeira to anyone else.

also is Maria's father is Silvestre de Viz?

The Perriera/Teixera name clarification would make a big difference in
my searching because I have found various records for Joseph Teixera
and Maria Furtado during the 40 years I am searching, but no birth,
marriage, death records or births of children under Maria Furtado/a
and Jose Pereira.  If I have been reading the marriage record of their
son Manoel wrong, this would clear a lot of things up.


Thanks
Suzanne

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Geneology software

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Hi Rich,

That is kind of an open ended question. I would say a lot depends on your
experience level and what you want to do with your data and how you want  to
document your data with sources.

I can only address software for PC's as I have never used a MAC. The most
popular software is Family Tree Maker. I am currently using the 2011 version
which I find faults with. I had previously used other versions and the one I
liked best was the 2006 V16. I have not tried the 2012 version so I am not
sure if they fixed the problems.

I also have TMG (the Master Genealogist) which I have used on a limited
basis. If you are just starting out and this is your first program then you
will not be bothered by the learning curb as much if you are going from
another program.

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel
Spring, TX
Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande,
Sao Miguel, Acores
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Geneology software

What is the best geneology software?  I would like to she your pros and
cons. Rich

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Name changes

[Sonia Pacheco]

Hi guys! 

I'm continuing to pursue the research that I started in Lisbon in September 
2011 and come to you guys with yet another question! 
For those of you whose families had a significant change in surname (i.e. 
Castanho became Brown; Pereira became Perry etc), have you been able to 
pinpoint *when* and *where* this happened? 

Thanks in advance, 

Sonia 




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N. Dartmouth, MA 02747 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name changes

[bellemarco]

Sonia,

As far as the US in concerned, I believe a lot of it came when they arrived  
in the US and wanted to assimilate with the American culture. I have done  
much research in Lisbon at the Archives quite a few years ago but now those  
records, as well as other areas of mainland Portugal, are slowly coming  
online which it makes it a little easier for all of us. I do know my  
Austrian Empire family who went to the Algarve with Napoleon and married  
there changed the original spelling when the children came of age and they  
changed it to a more Portuguese spelling. Interestingly, the ones who went  
to Trieste, Italy after WWII changed it to a more Italian spelling. Since  
the land went back and forth between Italy and Croatia, there maybe some  
who remained in Croatia who consider themselves Croatia but the ones who  
went to Italy consider themselves Italian...although I believe most of them  
are loyal to their Italian heritage no matter where they live.


"E"

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Re: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Geneology software

[bellemarco]

On this subject, I see some people who use more than one genealogy program,  
how do you keep the information updated between programs??? I asked  
Ancestry about it and they sent me some info which I have not tried as I am  
now trying to use my backup to update my mini computer (when my computer  
guru finds time to get to it).


"E"

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Brazil, Immigration Cards, 1900-1965

[mnk]

Thanks for posting that link, I found three extended family members
there!
Maria Natalia

On Feb 10, 10:24 am, bellema...@gmail.com wrote:
> Brazil, Immigration Cards, 1900-1965
> Family Search as added these records and just for the heck of it I put in a
> family name as I knew they had gone to Brazil earlier than 1900 and
> returned to Lisbon, and, lo and behold, one of them show up on this list
> and there is even a picture of her on the card. This was for 1959. Also,
> this may be of interest to some: Portugal, Porto, Catholic Church Records,
> 1535-1949 - still trying to find my Victor marriage record here, Portugal,
> Viana do Castelo, Catholic Church Records, 1537-1909. Go here and you can
> see the Current Projects, Completed Projects and Future Projects:  
> https://familysearch.org/volunteer/indexing
>
> "E"

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Geneology software

[Kathy Cardoza]

Hi E.

Do you use a Mac or a PC? What program are you using? Are you using one 
program, but on two different computers and wanting to know how to share the 
data between both computers? All things we need to know to try to help.:)

Kathy

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On Feb 13, 2012, at 8:55 AM, bellema...@gmail.com wrote:

> On this subject, I see some people who use more than one genealogy program, 
> how do you keep the information updated between programs??? I asked Ancestry 
> about it and they sent me some info which I have not tried as I am now trying 
> to use my backup to update my mini computer (when my computer guru finds time 
> to get to it). 
> 
> "E"
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Geneology software

["E" Sharp]

Kathy
I am using a PC and Family Tree Maker Version 16 for both computers.  Yes,
I want to know how to update the HP mini, I believe it is Office model),
 with the info I am putting into my Toshiba laptop.  I use the mini when I
travel as the other is too heavy for me to carry.

"E"

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Kathy Cardoza  wrote:

> Hi E.
>
> Do you use a Mac or a PC? What program are you using? Are you using one
> program, but on two different computers and wanting to know how to share
> the data between both computers? All things we need to know to try to help.
>:)
>
> Kathy
>
>
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Geneology software

[Kathy Cardoza]

E

Well, I'm a Mac user, myself, but I think I can still help you This is how 
it is on a Mac and I'm assuming it is the same way on a PC.

So, on your Toshiba laptop, in FTM, go to the File menu and choose Backup to 
backup the family file you want to share. Depending on your setup at home, 
choose to save the file in a location you can easily find.. perhaps the 
Desktop or directly to a plugged in Flash Drive (aka Thumb Drive.) If your 
computers are on the same wireless network at home, you can even transfer the 
file that way. There are other ways, too, like connecting both computers via a 
cable such as Ethernet or USB. BUT, the Flash Drive method is probably the 
easiest.

Now that you have your file on the Flash Drive, you need to transfer it to your 
second computer, the Mini. I'm not sure about how the FTM directories are set 
up on a PC. You could just copy the backed up file to the Desktop of the Mini 
or you could copy it directly to a Backups directory within the FTM directory.

Open up FTM on the Mini. Go to the File Menu and choose Restore. Locate where 
you put that backed up file from the Toshiba and select that. The File should 
restore just fine and there should now be a family file in your FTM directory.

A word of caution on this... If you have linked any media to your FTM file 
(as opposed to actually adding it into your FTM file which makes the file much 
bigger) those links to photos, census images, etc. MAY not show up on your 
Mini. UNLESS you also copy the media and maintain an exact copy on both 
computers. I'm not sure about that last one so perhaps someone who does this 
with your program can clarify that.

Also, if you make changes to the file on your Mini, you can just reverse the 
above procedure to copy those changes back to the Toshiba. Be sure not to make 
any changes to the Toshiba file until you have copied the changed file back to 
the Toshiba or you'll have a mess on your hands.

All of this may sound pretty confusing. But, if you do it all correctly and be 
consistent in your work flow, it will work fine.

I used to do this all the time and even used Dropbox to sync my family history 
files and all my media. That method works great, too, but is not for folks who 
aren't totally sure of how it works. Now, I'm working only on one computer so 
it makes life much easier.

Hopefully this helped you a little. If you need more help, please email me 
directly and I will share my phone number so we can talk about it on the phone 
if that will help.

Good luck and happy hunting!
Kathy


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On Feb 13, 2012, at 9:29 AM, E Sharp wrote:

> Kathy
> I am using a PC and Family Tree Maker Version 16 for both computers.  Yes, I 
> want to know how to update the HP mini, I believe it is Office model),  with 
> the info I am putting into my Toshiba laptop.  I use the mini when I travel 
> as the other is too heavy for me to carry.
>  
> "E"
> 
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Kathy Cardoza  wrote:
> Hi E.
> 
> Do you use a Mac or a PC? What program are you using? Are you using one 
> program, but on two different computers and wanting to know how to share the 
> data between both computers? All things we need to know to try to help.:)
> 
> Kathy
> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name changes

[Bill Boyd]

"Pereira" became "Peters" for part of my tree. Happened in the 1920's when they 
couldn't get mail delivered. They live in the Patterson area of the Central 
Valley (California). 

Bill Boyd

On Feb 13, 2012, at 7:42 AM, Sonia Pacheco  wrote:

> Hi guys!
> 
> I'm continuing to pursue the research that I started in Lisbon  in September 
> 2011 and come to you guys with yet another question!
> For those of you whose families had a significant change in surname (i.e. 
> Castanho became Brown; Pereira became Perry etc), have you been able to 
> pinpoint *when* and *where* this happened? 
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Sonia
> 
> Sónia Pacheco
> Librarian Archivist
> Ferreira-Mendes Portuguese American Archives
> Claire T. Carney Library
> University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
> 285 Old Westport Road
> N. Dartmouth, MA 02747
> Tel. 508-999-8695
> Fax  508-999-8424
> Email spach...@umassd.edu
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[AZORES-Genealogy] celest perry email hacked

[Dolores Coyle]

It appears Celest Perry's email has been hacked by someone and is asking
for money.  I am sure this is a Hoax.

Dolores Coyle

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 1940 Census

[Kawika322]

To all,

I know that if you are part of the indexing effort with
familysearch.org, you can help index the 1940 census as soon as it is
released. I think they are going to start with the smallest states and
then expand so you can work on states you are more interested in.
Their goal is to have the whole census indexed 6 months after it is
released. I think that this indexing effort will be more accurate then
how ancestry.com is going to be indexing the 1940 census, because I
heard they are outsourcing the indexing work to India so they can get
it done faster and cheaper...however I think that there will be more
inaccuracies and inconsistencies in doing it that way rather than
having people here who may be more familiar with the names to do the
indexing. Anyone can create a free account on familysearch.org and
download the indexing program and start indexing. There are a bunch of
different types of records available now  (even some Portugal and
Brazil baptisms and marriages). Hope this helps.


  Thanks,

 David

On Feb 12, 11:43 am, rcap...@redshift.com wrote:
> Dear E
>
> You are correct, it will take some months to have any viable index for the
> 1940 so we are stuck with trying to find our people in the same place they
> were in 1930!  Converting the 1930 ED's to 1940 ED's will be the only way
> to find your people in the big cities like New York City, Chicago etc.  If
> they moved between 1930 and 1940 you may have to wait until there is an
> index. The smaller towns can be searched page-by-page but not the big
> ones!
>
> Rosemarie
>
> Thanks, Rosemarie, according to Ancestry.com only 50 more days Correct
>
> > me if I am wrong, there will not be an index.you have to search by
> > EDso this site will be VERY useful.
>
> > "E"
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] celest perry email hacked

[celeste perry]

Thank you, Dolores, for writing this email.  I just got home from my volunteer 
work this morning and found someone had hacked my email.  I am not traveling, 
have not lost anything (except my email) and will try to contact everyone to 
tell them personally that I am alive and well and not in need of money (at this 
time).  Celeste

Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com

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From: Dolores Coyle 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] celest perry email hacked
To: Azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, February 13, 2012, 10:10 AM



It appears Celest Perry's email has been hacked by someone and is asking for 
money.  I am sure this is a Hoax.
 
Dolores Coyle
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading two fathers last names

[Shirley Allegre]

You have to scan it on your scanner.  When you are finished with that,
email it to me.Thanks
Shirley in CA
- Original Message - 
From: "sdarosa" 

To: "Azores Genealogy" 
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 1:50 PM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading two fathers last names


Hi Shirley,
How do you attach a document here?
Suzanne


On Feb 12, 2:57 pm, "Shirley Allegre"  wrote:

I tried getting into that website. I couldn't do it.
Can you please send a copy of the document?

Shirley in CA







- Original Message -
From: "sdarosa" 
To: "Azores Genealogy" 
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 12:18 PM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading two fathers last names

I was wondering if someone would mind having a look at this record for
the marriage of Manoel Furtado de Mendon a to Maria de Avila, 
1723.http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/SJVVC1701-1734/SJ...


I am doing research on the Manoel's father and mother. In this
record, at first glance it appears that his last name is Joze Perreira
but as I look at it, I see an X in the name, and am wondering if it
looksTexeira to anyone else.

also is Maria's father is Silvestre de Viz?

The Perriera/Teixera name clarification would make a big difference in
my searching because I have found various records for Joseph Teixera
and Maria Furtado during the 40 years I am searching, but no birth,
marriage, death records or births of children under Maria Furtado/a
and Jose Pereira. If I have been reading the marriage record of their
son Manoel wrong, this would clear a lot of things up.

Thanks
Suzanne

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Geneology software

[Karlushko]

I am using one of the best, Ancestral Quest


Karlushko - Itajai/SC/Brasil - New York/USA
Pesquisando:
Alemanha, Belgica, Brasil, Luxemburgo, Italia, Portugal, Açores, Espanha
Agueda, Aguiar, André, Antunes, Arruda, Baptista, Beirao, Brasil, Bulcão, 
Cardoso, Correia, Costa, Dias, Dutra, Faria, Fernandes, Ferreira, Figueiro, 
Gaspar, Gato, Gomes Gonçalves, Guedes, Jorge, Leal, Lemos, Macedo, Machado, 
Marques, Martins, Matos, Mello, Miranda, Moreira, Nascimento, Netto, Nogueira, 
Nunes, Oliveira, Pereira, Ponte, Quadrado, Rebello, Rodrigues, Santos, Silva, 
Silveira, Simão, Sodré, Souza, Vieira, Zabuya, Fiorenzano, Bertemes, Reinert, 
Ottekier, Van der Gocht, de Pres, Hesse, Laux, Schumer, Jungklaus.
 


 De: ""E" Sharp" 
Para: azores@googlegroups.com 
Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 13 de Fevereiro de 2012 12:29
Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Geneology software
  

Kathy 
I am using a PC and Family Tree Maker Version 16 for both computers.  Yes, I 
want to know how to update the HP mini, I believe it is Office model),  with 
the info I am putting into my Toshiba laptop.  I use the mini when I travel as 
the other is too heavy for me to carry. 

"E"

 
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Kathy Cardoza  wrote:

Hi E. 
>
> 
>Do you use a Mac or a PC? What program are you using? Are you using one 
>program, but on two different computers and wanting to know how to share the 
>data between both computers? All things we need to know to try to help.    :) 
>
> 
>Kathy 
>
>
>
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores Visit Suggestions

[Katharine]

Diane, With such a brief stop on Faial, your most efficient use of
time might be to ARRANGE IN ADVANCE for a bilingual driver/tour guide
to show you around the island.  Can the travel agent booking your
cruise help you with this as well?  Or if not, perhaps a concierge on
shipboard can, during the cruise.  Explain that you want particular
emphasis on seeing Feteira, Horta and Flamengos, and tell the driver
your family surnames from each of those towns.  It's been 8 years
since I used a driver/tour guide on Faial, but back then the standard
charge was 20 Euros/hour; it may well be more now, but at least that
gives you a ball-park figure.  You'll also likely want to tip your
guide (20 Euros extra, perhaps).

>From comments others have left here, I gather that the Biblioteca
Pública e Arquivo Regional (Horta public library and archives) no
longer permits hands-on examination of old baptismal, marriage and
death registries (I was last there in late spring 2008, when it was
still allowed).  While the new Horta public library (early spring
2008) is lovely, be aware that most of the staff (although wonderful
folks) speak no English.

Hope you enjoy your stop on Faial.  Be sure to get a gin-&-tonic or
Coke-with-lemon-slice at Peter Café Sport, which they'll even allow
you to take outside to drink so you can enjoy the scenery!  Katharine.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Geneology software

[Diane George]

I am a PC user and like Legacy Family Tree, http://legacyfamilytree.com/,
mostly because of the source citation templates. They make it easy to add
complete details for sources in a consistent way. In addition, I am learning
to use TNG (The Next Generation of Genealogy Sitebuilding,
http://www.tngsitebuilding.com/) to create a website to share my information
with family members. Data is exported from Legacy in Gedcom format, then
imported into the TNG site to update the data.

 

I also use multiple computers (desktop and laptops) so we keep our data
files on a network drive so that the data is accessible from any one of the
computers when we are home. If we need to travel, we just copy the data
files needed to the laptop and open the file on the laptop instead of the
network drive. In the case of any media files, it does mean maintaining
multiple sets of the files, but that also means that you have backups.

 

If we make updates to the data on the laptop, the updated file can be backed
up and restored to the network drive or in the case of the Legacy software,
I can just copy the pertinent files onto the network drive to update the
data. In addition, data on the network is backed up periodically to another
drive and I maintain a second external drive for  additional backups. I keep
it with me whenever we leave the house (it's small and fits easily in my
purse).

 

Diane George

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Geneology software

[Cheri Mello]

For Elaine,

If you are using the same program on different computers (desktop and
laptop), you can back up to a flash drive or use Dropbox.

For Rich Silva:
There is no "best" genealogy software.  What you find best or I find best
may be two completely different things.  The "best" one for you will be the
one that matches your needs and goals.

The 4 most popular (in alphabetically order) for use on a PC (although a
Mac running VMFusion or Parallels can run these as well):
Family Tree Maker
Legacy Family Tree
RootsMagic
The Master Genealogist

I'll look for a post I made about them later and repost it here.

I believe all have demos except Family Tree Maker.
Legacy: www.legacyfamilytree.com (download the standard version)
RootsMagic: www.rootsmagic.com (I think the "essentials" is free)
The Master Genealogist: www.whollygenes.com (free for 30 days)

Play around with them a bit and see what you like or dislike about them.

There are many other genealogy software programs out there besides the 4
most popular, above.  You can find a review here:
http://genealogy-software-review.toptenreviews.com/
You can also google "genealogy software programs" and find more that way.

There are also some cloud-type software programs.  Ancestry.com is one.  I
think you need a subscription to have your tree housed there, but I'm not
entirely sure.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Geneology software

[Robin Lebo]

Greetings,
I started with using legacy and I still use it. Thanks to a cousin, I now have 
the family website on tribal pages. It is free up to a certain amount. I have 
yet to reach that limit point. My cousin has 25,000 names so he pays a small 
fee. I can put citations on it as well as pictures. My cousin has a family 
members who served military picture page. It sends out a monthly newsletter and 
I have a guest password for family as well as my own for editing. It does not 
do any research, just the info. My back up is a flash drive. I am still pretty 
new at all this, but for a beginner I really like it. 
There is a lot out there and it gets confusing to me. I feel what I have now is 
working for what I am doing. As the tree grows, I will probably need to make 
changes. It is always a works in progress, just like my garden. 

Robin Lebo


On Feb 13, 2012, at 14:47, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> For Elaine,
> 
> If you are using the same program on different computers (desktop and 
> laptop), you can back up to a flash drive or use Dropbox.
> 
> For Rich Silva:
> There is no "best" genealogy software.  What you find best or I find best may 
> be two completely different things.  The "best" one for you will be the one 
> that matches your needs and goals.  
> 
> The 4 most popular (in alphabetically order) for use on a PC (although a Mac 
> running VMFusion or Parallels can run these as well):
> Family Tree Maker
> Legacy Family Tree
> RootsMagic
> The Master Genealogist
> 
> I'll look for a post I made about them later and repost it here.
> 
> I believe all have demos except Family Tree Maker.
> Legacy: www.legacyfamilytree.com (download the standard version)
> RootsMagic: www.rootsmagic.com (I think the "essentials" is free)
> The Master Genealogist: www.whollygenes.com (free for 30 days)
> 
> Play around with them a bit and see what you like or dislike about them.
> 
> There are many other genealogy software programs out there besides the 4 most 
> popular, above.  You can find a review here: 
> http://genealogy-software-review.toptenreviews.com/
> You can also google "genealogy software programs" and find more that way.
> 
> There are also some cloud-type software programs.  Ancestry.com is one.  I 
> think you need a subscription to have your tree housed there, but I'm not 
> entirely sure.
> 
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
> Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Grandfathers Birth Place WOW Thank you!!!

[eric edgar]

Greg,

So the grandparents divorced? Then he married Pauline?

I'll look for more on this. I have a similar stuation in my family. My
grandmother's sister had a boy hit by a car and killed in San Antonio in
1935. When I

traveled there to meet my great aunt , the family gave me his photo album.
They didn't know what to do with it, but couldn't just throw it out, so I
have it now.


On the Victorino and Quiteria marriage, you'll see it was January 1888, and
Manuel was born in October. I believe they are his natural parents.

I'm looking forward to reading the book, many people have recommended it to
me.


Eric Edgar

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Greg's Gmail  wrote:

>   Thank again,
>
> One person suggested that Falk had been derived from Falco or Falcoa?
>
> She was poor soul, her first child (not with Manuel) was killed at age 4
> or 5 by a car in the street in front of her house chasing a ball.
> The story goes on to say she was holding his dead body in her arms
> screaming, his head was said to crushed.
> She spent the rest of her life an alcoholic who lived near East 14th
> Street San Leandro. She did live to be over 90.
>
> Eric, the ancestry you send me has left me in a whirlwind. I have trying
> to make sense of Victorino’s  marriage to
> *Quitéria Tomásia do Coração de Jesus  in 1888,* that was the same year
> my grandfather was born?
> Wondering why my grandfathers birth doesn’t show.  Then 20 years later
> Victorino put him on the ship.
> Or if Victorinos first wife was his mother was actually? That would make
> him full brother/sister of Francisca
>
> I have a copy of my fathers birth certificate, I found it the same time I
> found my grandfather immigration card.
> During the heat of filling out the certificate it shows my grandfathers
> name as Manuel Victor Dias and the son (Alvin, my father) with the name
> Manuel Victor Dias as well !!
> BTW I just finished reading “The Undiscovered Island” by Darrell Kastin
>  would of read it non-stop but my vision gets blurred...
>
>  Thanks again for helping me making it real!
> Greg
>
>  *From:* eric edgar 
> *Sent:* Monday, February 13, 2012 12:13 PM
> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Grandfathers Birth Place WOW Thank
> you!!!
>
>   Greg,
>
>
> The information was put together mostly from Ancestry.com for shiplist and
> censuses,from Vitalsearch for birth and death records,  from the Gold
> Nugget Library site for
>
> city directories, and the NEPS site.
>
> What I haven't found is  much on Elsie Falk. The children she had with
> Manuel show her last name as Rose. In the Alameda county area there are a
> few Elsie Roses,
>
> born in California, of Danish descent. The Elsie Falks found are also of
> Danish background.
>
> Another loose end is the sister Francisca mentioned on the shiplist. I'll
> get back to you if I find more.
>
>
> Eric Edgar
>
>  On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Greg's Gmail  wrote:
>
>>Eric,
>> Gracias por todo!!
>>
>> I was looking at those ships logs and only recently had the Garcia
>> name
>>
>> Was the info from the EllisIsland.org site?
>>
>> I also went crazy on the NEPS site recently ... tried a lot of name
>> combinations but obviously YOU have the magic touch my friend.
>>
>> I saw the name Vitorino and it reminded me of my fathers middle name
>> Victor.
>>
>> Tell me Eric.. where are you from and a little about your ancestors...
>> por favor.
>>
>> I live in El Salvador now in the coffee mountains overlooking the
>> Pacific.
>> We just finished our annual party for all of the employees of our
>> community with their children. 100 plus, the are so genuine and grateful.
>> My heart has always been open to all peoples and now I find I have a new
>> mission.
>> I am enamored by finding out WHY for my whole life I have love the sea,
>> Islands, volcanoes and believe it
>> or not earthquakes! ... I was born in San Francisco, lived in  Los
>> Anglers and now El Salvador  all earthquakes zones.
>>
>> This is the key for me my friend.
>> If I find some cousins there I will share the info here
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>  *From:* eric edgar 
>> *Sent:* Sunday, February 12, 2012 1:18 PM
>> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Grandfathers Birth Place
>>
>>
>> Greg,
>>
>> Your lucky day!
>> I found  Manuel Garcia Dias on a ship list coming from Faial to
>> Massachucetts 1909. It had fathers name, Victorino Dias Furtado. I took
>> this to the NEPS site for Faial and hunted around a while to find him in
>> Feteiria. That gave me the Praia do Almoxarife birthplace. So here is what
>> appears to be the family tree going back four more generations from the
>> great grandfather.
>>
>> Eric Edgar
>>
>>
>> *Manuel Furtado da Rosa *
>>
>> Nascido - Praia do Almoxarife
>>
>> Falecido a 2 de Maio de 1798 - Praia do Almoxarife
>>
>>
>>
>> Casado com *Catarina Inácia,* tiveram
>>
>>
>>
>> José ? 1773-1773
>>
>> *Francisco Furtado 1774*
>>
>> Ana ? 1778
>>
>> Teresa

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Grandfathers Birth Place WOW Thank you!!!

[Greg's Gmail]

Eric,
I would say so, 
Pauline.. was Grace and Manuel Jr mother
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XCXH-J4B  1930 census

Greg

From: eric edgar 
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 3:34 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Grandfathers Birth Place WOW Thank you!!!

Greg, 

So the grandparents divorced? Then he married Pauline?

I'll look for more on this. I have a similar stuation in my family. My 
grandmother's sister had a boy hit by a car and killed in San Antonio in 1935. 
When I 

traveled there to meet my great aunt , the family gave me his photo album. They 
didn't know what to do with it, but couldn't just throw it out, so I have it 
now.


On the Victorino and Quiteria marriage, you'll see it was January 1888, and 
Manuel was born in October. I believe they are his natural parents.

I'm looking forward to reading the book, many people have recommended it to me.


Eric Edgar


On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Greg's Gmail  wrote:

  Thank again,

  One person suggested that Falk had been derived from Falco or Falcoa?

  She was poor soul, her first child (not with Manuel) was killed at age 4 or 5 
by a car in the street in front of her house chasing a ball.
  The story goes on to say she was holding his dead body in her arms screaming, 
his head was said to crushed.
  She spent the rest of her life an alcoholic who lived near East 14th Street 
San Leandro. She did live to be over 90.

  Eric, the ancestry you send me has left me in a whirlwind. I have trying to 
make sense of Victorino’s  marriage to 
  Quitéria Tomásia do Coração de Jesus  in 1888, that was the same year my 
grandfather was born? 
  Wondering why my grandfathers birth doesn’t show.  Then 20 years later 
Victorino put him on the ship.
  Or if Victorinos first wife was his mother was actually? That would make him 
full brother/sister of Francisca 

  I have a copy of my fathers birth certificate, I found it the same time I 
found my grandfather immigration card.
  During the heat of filling out the certificate it shows my grandfathers name 
as Manuel Victor Dias and the son (Alvin, my father) with the name Manuel 
Victor Dias as well !! 
  BTW I just finished reading “The Undiscovered Island” by Darrell Kastin  
would of read it non-stop but my vision gets blurred...

  Thanks again for helping me making it real!
  Greg

  From: eric edgar 
  Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 12:13 PM
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Grandfathers Birth Place WOW Thank you!!!

  Greg, 


  The information was put together mostly from Ancestry.com for shiplist and 
censuses,from Vitalsearch for birth and death records,  from the Gold Nugget 
Library site for 

  city directories, and the NEPS site.

  What I haven't found is  much on Elsie Falk. The children she had with Manuel 
show her last name as Rose. In the Alameda county area there are a few Elsie 
Roses,

  born in California, of Danish descent. The Elsie Falks found are also of 
Danish background. 

  Another loose end is the sister Francisca mentioned on the shiplist. I'll get 
back to you if I find more.


  Eric Edgar


  On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Greg's Gmail  wrote:

Eric,
Gracias por todo!! 

I was looking at those ships logs and only recently had the Garcia name 

Was the info from the EllisIsland.org site?  

I also went crazy on the NEPS site recently ... tried a lot of name 
combinations but obviously YOU have the magic touch my friend.

I saw the name Vitorino and it reminded me of my fathers middle name 
Victor. 

Tell me Eric.. where are you from and a little about your ancestors... por 
favor.

I live in El Salvador now in the coffee mountains overlooking the Pacific. 
We just finished our annual party for all of the employees of our community 
with their children. 100 plus, the are so genuine and grateful.
My heart has always been open to all peoples and now I find I have a new 
mission. 
I am enamored by finding out WHY for my whole life I have love the sea, 
Islands, volcanoes and believe it 
or not earthquakes! ... I was born in San Francisco, lived in  Los Anglers 
and now El Salvador  all earthquakes zones.

This is the key for me my friend. 
If I find some cousins there I will share the info here

Greg 

From: eric edgar 
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 1:18 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Grandfathers Birth Place


Greg, 

Your lucky day! 
I found  Manuel Garcia Dias on a ship list coming from Faial to 
Massachucetts 1909. It had fathers name, Victorino Dias Furtado. I took this to 
the NEPS site for Faial and hunted around a while to find him in Feteiria. That 
gave me the Praia do Almoxarife birthplace. So here is what appears to be the 
family tree going back four more generations from the great grandfather.

Eric Edgar 

Manuel Furtado da Rosa 

Nascido 

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores Visit Suggestions

[Diane George]

Thanks for the great suggestions.

Diane George

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Katharine
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 11:09 AM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores Visit Suggestions

Diane, With such a brief stop on Faial, your most efficient use of time
might be to ARRANGE IN ADVANCE for a bilingual driver/tour guide to show you
around the island.  Can the travel agent booking your cruise help you with
this as well?  Or if not, perhaps a concierge on shipboard can, during the
cruise.  Explain that you want particular emphasis on seeing Feteira, Horta
and Flamengos, and tell the driver your family surnames from each of those
towns.  It's been 8 years since I used a driver/tour guide on Faial, but
back then the standard charge was 20 Euros/hour; it may well be more now,
but at least that gives you a ball-park figure.  You'll also likely want to
tip your guide (20 Euros extra, perhaps).

>From comments others have left here, I gather that the Biblioteca Pública e
Arquivo Regional (Horta public library and archives) no longer permits
hands-on examination of old baptismal, marriage and death registries (I was
last there in late spring 2008, when it was still allowed).  While the new
Horta public library (early spring
2008) is lovely, be aware that most of the staff (although wonderful
folks) speak no English.

Hope you enjoy your stop on Faial.  Be sure to get a gin-&-tonic or
Coke-with-lemon-slice at Peter Café Sport, which they'll even allow you to
take outside to drink so you can enjoy the scenery!  Katharine.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Brazil, Immigration Cards, 1900-1965

[BaltarFamily]

Hi,

I was reading your messages and I do too research in Brazil and just
started a blog with lots of info on how to research the archives
there, you may find it interesting. My family is from Terceira, Azores
and also from Viseu.

I lived in Brazil and speak portuguese, my blog is

http://myportuguesegen.blogspot.com/2011/12/immigration-in-brazil.html

Hope you will find something that can help you there, and if you need
any other help just let me know.

Isabella

On Feb 13, 12:03 pm, mnk  wrote:
> Thanks for posting that link, I found three extended family members
> there!
> Maria Natalia
>
> On Feb 10, 10:24 am, bellema...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Brazil, Immigration Cards, 1900-1965
> > Family Search as added these records and just for the heck of it I put in a
> > family name as I knew they had gone to Brazil earlier than 1900 and
> > returned to Lisbon, and, lo and behold, one of them show up on this list
> > and there is even a picture of her on the card. This was for 1959. Also,
> > this may be of interest to some: Portugal, Porto, Catholic Church Records,
> > 1535-1949 - still trying to find my Victor marriage record here, Portugal,
> > Viana do Castelo, Catholic Church Records, 1537-1909. Go here and you can
> > see the Current Projects, Completed Projects and Future Projects:  
> > https://familysearch.org/volunteer/indexing
>
> > "E"

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Geneology software

[Dora Smith]

I prefer Personal Ancestral File, available for free from 
familysearch.org .  It has a Companion that you can buy for about $9, 
and it has a demo version.I've found that the basic program itself 
seems to do more.  PAF is a real workhorse, particularly useful if 
you've alot of data to enter, it'll keep any amount of notes, and it 
does decent reports.


I use Rootsmagic for particularly pretty reports, and Legacy for web 
sites, and occasionally for other things.


I tried Master Genealogist in 2006.   I don't recommend it to anyone.   
It uses so much computer resources, it froze up on my ca 2002 computer 
with 500 mb of RAM, which is what most but the newest desktops have.   
It is unecessarily complex and hard to learn, and I recall it not doing 
such basics as listing all the children of all the spouses as members of 
a family unit.   The program has a certain fanatical following, but few 
could love it.


I LEAST recommend Family Tree Maker; it uses great gobs of computer 
space to do very little.   It is perfect for people who just want to 
compile a photo scrapbook of the most recent three or four generations 
of the family, without alot of depth, and without any particularly 
complex family membership, but such people as that wouldn't be on the 
Azores list; you're already interested in 18th and 19th century ancestors.


Dora

On 2/13/2012 3:10 PM, Robin Lebo wrote:

Greetings,
I started with using legacy and I still use it. Thanks to a cousin, I 
now have the family website on tribal pages. It is free up to a 
certain amount. I have yet to reach that limit point. My cousin has 
25,000 names so he pays a small fee. I can put citations on it as well 
as pictures. My cousin has a family members who served military 
picture page. It sends out a monthly newsletter and I have a guest 
password for family as well as my own for editing. It does not do any 
research, just the info. My back up is a flash drive. I am still 
pretty new at all this, but for a beginner I really like it.
There is a lot out there and it gets confusing to me. I feel what I 
have now is working for what I am doing. As the tree grows, I will 
probably need to make changes. It is always a works in progress, just 
like my garden.


Robin Lebo


On Feb 13, 2012, at 14:47, Cheri Mello > wrote:



For Elaine,

If you are using the same program on different computers (desktop and 
laptop), you can back up to a flash drive or use Dropbox.


For Rich Silva:
There is no "best" genealogy software.  What you find best or I find 
best may be two completely different things.  The "best" one for you 
will be the one that matches your needs and goals.


The 4 most popular (in alphabetically order) for use on a PC 
(although a Mac running VMFusion or Parallels can run these as well):

Family Tree Maker
Legacy Family Tree
RootsMagic
The Master Genealogist

I'll look for a post I made about


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 1940 Census

[Dora Smith]

Ancestry also has a volunteer data transcription / indexing project.

Dora

On 2/13/2012 12:20 PM, Kawika322 wrote:

To all,

I know that if you are part of the indexing effort with
familysearch.org, you can help index the 1940 census as soon as it is
released. I think they are going to start with the smallest states and
then expand so you can work on states you are more interested in.
Their goal is to have the whole census indexed 6 months after it is
released. I think that this indexing effort will be more accurate then
how ancestry.com is going to be indexing the 1940 census, because I
heard they are outsourcing the indexing work to India so they can get
it done faster and cheaper...however I think that there will be more
inaccuracies and inconsistencies in doing it that way rather than
having people here who may be more familiar with the names to do the
indexing. Anyone can create a free account on familysearch.org and
download the indexing program and start indexing. There are a bunch of
different types of records available now  (even some Portugal and
Brazil baptisms and marriages). Hope this helps.


   Thanks,

  David

On Feb 12, 11:43 am, rcap...@redshift.com wrote:

Dear E

You are correct, it will take some months to have any viable index for the
1940 so we are stuck with trying to find our people in the same place they
were in 1930!  Converting the 1930 ED's to 1940 ED's will be the only way
to find your people in the big cities like New York City, Chicago etc.  If
they moved between 1930 and 1940 you may have to wait until there is an
index. The smaller towns can be searched page-by-page but not the big
ones!

Rosemarie

Thanks, Rosemarie, according to Ancestry.com only 50 more days Correct


me if I am wrong, there will not be an index.you have to search by
EDso this site will be VERY useful.
"E"
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