[AZORES-Genealogy] Vacation
m back had a great time If you looking for a tour guide/taxi ins Driver to show you the Island and explain the history I would hire Rui Medeiros he explains in details very educated and likeable young men Speaks great English, check it out for yourself. His website http://www.sao-miguel-acores.com/en/azores/ www.georgepacheco.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading a name
Wow, it makes all the difference in the world. I was looking for Regina daughter of Francisco Camillo and Maria Da Gloria. The mother of Francisco being Maria Espirito Santo and the parents of Maria da Gloria be Maneul Machado and Isabel Josefa. Francisco Camillo from Village of Praia, Island of Graciosa Looks like I missed by a long shot on this one. Thanks to all for the help. Sheri Fenley Stockton, California On Apr 18, 7:35 pm, p...@dholmes.com wrote: Hi Sheri, I didn't notice if anyone told you that the child you found is not Regina. It's Angelina. Knowing that, do you think this is your ancestor? Or are you looking for a Regina in this same family? Do you know they came from Conceicao, Angra? My grandfather was born in Conceicao back in 1889, I think. His name was Manuel Joaquim Leal da Rocha Homem (changed to Manuel Rocha Holmes). If Angelina is your ancestor, then we are very distantly related. I think the most recent connection is from the late 1500s. I have traced her ancestors way back. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading a name From: Sheri Fenley sherilan...@gmail.com Date: Wed, April 17, 2013 12:34 am To:azores@googlegroups.com I need help reading a name from a birth record which I have attached. It is #5 which begins at the bottom left hand side of the page and continues at the top right. The name of the child is Regina. The name of the father is Francisco__ (I cannot read what comes after his name) The name of the mother is Maria da Gloria I can't make out the name of the Godparents either. I think I have been able to pick out that Francisco is from the Village of Praia on the Island of Graciosa, that his mother is named Maria Espirito Santo. The parents of Maria da Gloria are Manuel Machado and Maria Isabela. Thank you in advance for help in reading this document. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading a name
Doug, In re-reading the document again, I think I have to disagree. The name of the child is Regina. I found a birth record for another child and it makes Regina's make sense now. Francisco José Dutra Camillo, fisherman, born in the parish of Matriz de São Matheus of Villa da Praia, Graciosa Island, and of Maria da Gloria, domestic labor, born in this Parish of Nossa Senhora da Conceição, where they were married and are parishioners, living in Rua do Castellinho. Granddaughter, on the father’s side, of unknown grandfather, and Maria do Espírito Santo; and on the mother’s side of Manoel Machado, deceased, and Isabel Josefa. Now I just need to understand where the Jose Dutra is coming from. It is only in these 2 birth records that this name is used. On Apr 18, 7:35 pm, p...@dholmes.com wrote: Hi Sheri, I didn't notice if anyone told you that the child you found is not Regina. It's Angelina. Knowing that, do you think this is your ancestor? Or are you looking for a Regina in this same family? Do you know they came from Conceicao, Angra? My grandfather was born in Conceicao back in 1889, I think. His name was Manuel Joaquim Leal da Rocha Homem (changed to Manuel Rocha Holmes). If Angelina is your ancestor, then we are very distantly related. I think the most recent connection is from the late 1500s. I have traced her ancestors way back. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading a name From: Sheri Fenley sherilan...@gmail.com Date: Wed, April 17, 2013 12:34 am To:azores@googlegroups.com I need help reading a name from a birth record which I have attached. It is #5 which begins at the bottom left hand side of the page and continues at the top right. The name of the child is Regina. The name of the father is Francisco__ (I cannot read what comes after his name) The name of the mother is Maria da Gloria I can't make out the name of the Godparents either. I think I have been able to pick out that Francisco is from the Village of Praia on the Island of Graciosa, that his mother is named Maria Espirito Santo. The parents of Maria da Gloria are Manuel Machado and Maria Isabela. Thank you in advance for help in reading this document. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading a name
David, Thank you so much for you help. So Francisco was born out of wedlock then? I wonder where the name of Camillo comes from that he uses? Sheri Fenley On Apr 18, 7:41 pm, p...@dholmes.com wrote: David, It's interesting what you found about the parents of the single mother Maria do Espirito Santo. It isn't stated in the marriage, but when Francisco married, he might not have known it was to a cousin. They are related in the the 3º e 4º grau de consanguinidade. Common ancestors are Bezerra. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading a name From: Kawika322 oldschoo...@gmail.com Date: Wed, April 17, 2013 6:42 pm To:azores@googlegroups.comSheri, I found the baptismal record for Francisco Jose Dutra. He was born on 4 Nov 1865 in Sao Matheus, Praia, Graciosa and baptized on 5 Nov 1865. His mother is listed as Maria do Espirito Santo, and she is a native of Santa Barbara (Ribeiras), Pico. The father is listed as unknown. Maternal grandparents are listed as Jose Pereira and Maria do Espirito Santo. They are natives of Santa Barbara (Ribeiras), Pico. I am attaching the baptismal record I made a copy of at the Family History Center. You can find more info going back on the maternal grandparents Jose Pereira and Maria do Espirito Santo on the University of Minho website in the Lajes do Pico, Ribeiras section. http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Ribeiras;lang=en;p=jose;n=pereira;oc=2 On the website link, the mother of Francisco Jose Dutra is presumably the youngest child of Jose Pereira and Maria do Espirito Santo, born 25 Jan 1820. Hope this info helps, and let me know if you have any other questions. David On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:34:48 AM UTC-7, Sheri Fenley wrote: I need help reading a name from a birth record which I have attached. It is #5 which begins at the bottom left hand side of the page and continues at the top right. The name of the child is Regina. The name of the father is Francisco__ (I cannot read what comes after his name) The name of the mother is Maria da Gloria I can't make out the name of the Godparents either. I think I have been able to pick out that Francisco is from the Village of Praia on the Island of Graciosa, that his mother is named Maria Espirito Santo. The parents of Maria da Gloria are Manuel Machado and Maria Isabela. Thank you in advance for help in reading this document. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Translation of birth record
I had posted asking for help in a birth record in 1901 and got the following: Regina dau. of Francisco Jose Dutra son of unknow father and Maria do Espirito Santo and Maria da Gloria dau. of Manuel Machado and Maria Isabel, born at 11:00 pm on 26 Jan. 1901 and baptised a 5 Feb. 1901. Godparents Jose maria Verissimo and his wife Maria Jose. I thought I had the wrong family until I just got this birth record for another child of this family who was born in 1896: Francisco José Dutra Camillo, fisherman, born in the parish of Matriz de São Matheus of Villa da Praia, Graciosa Island, and of Maria da Gloria, domestic labor, born in this Parish of Nossa Senhora da Conceição, where they were married and are parishioners, living in Rua do Castellinho. Granddaughter, on the father’s side, of unknown grandfather, and Maria do Espírito Santo; and on the mother’s side of Manoel Machado, deceased, and Isabel Josefa. I find Francisco using the name Camillo in all the other birth records of his other children. Where does the Jose Dutra come from I wonder? Sheri Fenley -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation of birth record
Hi Sheri,Glad you found the right one. I guess you replied about Angelina and your disagreement before you found Regina the following year in 1901.The only correction to your translation is that it doesn't say her maternal grandfather was deceased.Is Regina your grandmother?Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation of birth record From: Sheri Fenley sherilan...@gmail.com Date: Sat, April 20, 2013 4:50 am To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com I had posted asking for help in a birth record in 1901 and got the following: Regina dau. of Francisco Jose Dutra son of unknow father and Maria do Espirito Santo and Maria da Gloria dau. of Manuel Machado and Maria Isabel, born at 11:00 pm on 26 Jan. 1901 and baptised a 5 Feb. 1901. Godparents Jose maria Verissimo and his wife Maria Jose. I thought I had the wrong family until I just got this birth record for another child of this family who was born in 1896: "Francisco José Dutra Camillo, fisherman, born in the parish of Matriz de São Matheus of Villa da Praia, Graciosa Island, and of Maria da Gloria, domestic labor, born in this Parish of Nossa Senhora da Conceição, where they were married and are parishioners, living in Rua do Castellinho. Granddaughter, on the father’s side, of unknown grandfather, and Maria do Espírito Santo; and on the mother’s side of Manoel Machado, deceased, and Isabel Josefa." I find Francisco using the name Camillo in all the other birth records of his other children. Where does the "Jose Dutra" come from I wonder? Sheri Fenley -- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: A Family Bible Story
E, Check search on the Internet for a book binder, book repair, book restorer type of businesses in your area. Also stop by a Used Book Store, Antique shop for recommendation to have the bible repaired. Recommend: Scan all the *birth, marriage *and *death* entries front page where it shows date and published the bible. I do this to all the old books and print the scanned pages for daily use for genealogy. Less wear and tear of the bible and it will last a long time. Also keep the bible is a cool, dry, not direct sun light area to keep it safe for your Great-Grandchild. Do not keep in the attic where the pages will dry out and fall out. Do not keep it in the basement where dampness will hurt the pages of the ancestors. Keep it proudly on a shelf in a nice room where generations can look at it and learn about the family. Glad you have the Bible, be sure to make copies for family members as Christmas gifts, might be a fun too do. Eugenia -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portuguese English dictionary
Thank you, Tomas, for this excellent and complete answer, so much good information, and to Kalani also for reminding me that though the Azoreans may understand me, will I be able to understand them when they respond? Most surely not! I think I'll look for a good paper dictionary (Portuguese/English not Brazilian/English) to have on hand to read signs, menus etc. I also appreciate being reminded that there will be different dialects. It will all be part of the adventure of the visit next month. Lorraine On Sunday, April 14, 2013 11:09:33 AM UTC-4, Lorraine wrote: *There are several Portuguese/English dictionaries online. Can anyone recommend a good one (easy to use) that will help me before and during my trip to the Azores in May? I can speak some Spanish. Will that help me be understood in Portuguese? Thanks again.* *Lorraine* -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The Nobiliario de Familias de Portugal
John, I have this book. It was published by Clearfield Press through The Genealogical Publishing Co.,Baltimore Maryland. It was supposed to be book 1 of more books on the different families of Portugual. I’ve never seen anymore books! This book is in English—Translated by Luis Pontes. If you Google the Gen. Publishing Co, Baltimore Maryland, you will get their address etc. and can order the book. I believe it was around $20 when I originally ordered it. Rosemarie From: John Athayde Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 11:50 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] The Nobiliario de Familias de Portugal Does anyone know where one can acquire this book? I know it's in Portuguese. I've found this online, which appear to be scanned pages of various versions: http://purl.pt/12151/1/ I've also found part of it translated to English, but only for one family: http://www.amazon.com/Noble-Familiesof-Portugal-ABREU-Pontes/dp/0806354070/ref=sr_1_6?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1366466235sr=1-6keywords=Noble+families+of+portugal But is this one of those rare folios only in Portuguese libraries? Any word on if any of teh other families will be released in English? (I'm specifically looking for Athayde/Ataíde) Cheers J John Athayde j...@athayde.com www.boboroshi.com (personal) www.meticulous.com (work) www.rotoscope.com | www.juniperlane.com (music) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Madeira genealogy
Folks, someone I met doing genealogy is looking to begin a search of her Madeira roots. Where online would be the best places for her to start? Whatever you send I will forward to her. Thanks in advance for your help. Joanne Joanne Medeiros Grota Mercier Researching Bretanha (Medeiros Grota, Benevides, deSouza), Lagoa (Luiz, d'Oliveira Homen) and Rabo de Peixe (Martins Gouveia) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Madeira genealogy
Hi Joanne,I meant to tell you the last time I saw your message about the spelling of one of your surnames.It is common because of pronunciation for this mistake, but the correct and only spelling in Portugal is HOMEM.It means "man" and for this reason, some of my great aunts didn't want to use it, while their brothers kept it.Of course, keeping the wrong spelling for those who emigrated is the right thing to do. But when you list your ancestors who stayed in Portugal, it should always be Homem.At least, that's what I do.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Madeira genealogy From: Joanne Mercier musicmavene...@gmail.com Date: Sat, April 20, 2013 2:20 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com Folks,someone I met doing genealogy is looking to begin a search of her Madeira roots. Where online would be the best places for her to start? Whatever you send I will forward to her. Thanks in advance for your help.JoanneJoanne Medeiros Grota MercierResearching Bretanha (Medeiros Grota, Benevides, deSouza), Lagoa (Luiz, d'Oliveira Homen) and Rabo de Peixe (Martins Gouveia) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A Family Bible Story
Karen ~ Thank you, Scotts Valley is the name of the town that I was trying to remember. I've been away from CA too long! Miss the ocean and sea breeze, miss the mountains and pine trees, oh yea, miss the grandkids too! Ally I am pretty sure the town she is referring to is Scotts Valley. Good Luck and congratulations!! Karen Medeiros-Huffman In a message dated 4/19/2013 7:23:04 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, netadosaco...@aol.com writes: E Do you live in California? There used to be a woman in a small town outside of Santa Cruz ( before you get to Santa Cruz ) Scottflat? Anyway, my friend took some old Bibles to be restored. These Bibles had broken bindings and sloppy covers. Once restored, they looked like new. Not sure what the name is, I will try and contact my friend for the Name and possibly the address of this company. Ally In a message dated 4/19/2013 2:21:17 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, bellema...@gmail.com writes: Today in the mail, we received my husband's Sharp family bible. It was given to his great grandmother by her father in 1825. She was born in 1812. So we're assuming for her 13th birthday. My husband's brother inherited the bible from their father and his daughter, my husband's niece who we have a great relationship with just sent it to us. We have wanted this bible for a long time as my brother in law had only daughters and we have male Sharp descendants that we want to pass it along to. There are some huge pressed leaves, and what looks like ribbons from wedding flowers and then some dried flowers also. I guess it could also be funeral flowers. A postcard and some pictures of women cut out of the newspaper. Anyhow just wanted to say you never know what you will inherit someday. We are very thankful to have it even though its condition is not the best. Not sure what we can do to try and have it restored it but will look into it. E -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
