RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results
Fascinating, Susan.I bet it came as a real surprise.And here I thought I was special with my 2.97% Native American. :-)My father got 6.84% Native American (Central American) from the Pima tribe. The map shows that is Mexico.But my map shows Mexico, along with all of the other Central American countries, plus Columbia and Bolivia in South America. The tribes are Maya, Pima, Surui, Columbian.Just why my results are more specific than my father's and get closer to my known origins in Chile, makes me wonder.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results From: Susan Vargas MurphyDate: Tue, November 05, 2013 10:33 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com Cc: Azores@googlegroups.com I thought I would "join the cocktail party" because I tested both my brother and myself on Family Finder and we are of 100% Azorean ancestry.My brother came back 85.8% Western European….(French and Spanish) and 14.2 % North African (Mozabite)I came back as 97.58% Western European (Spanish) and 2.4% Cambodian, Han, Japanese, Lahu, Malay, MongolianAs has been said…Amuzing and confusing:)Susan Vargas Murphy -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Exorcisms? of children in Ginetes documents
Hi John, Yes, it's not a sin. But clearly the Church does believe that the devil might have been involved in the first baptism, and they need to exorcise it better. I guess it makes that makes the first one a satanic rite instead of a sin. I understand the need for a second baptism, just to make sure. And I know that a rite of exorcism is part of baptism anyway. But clearly something is fishy about the need to state the exorcism explicitly. My theory about that is the one above - a need to affirm the power of the Church. Granted, it's my personal opinion, and I don't have time to research that deeper. I just find it funny from the records that they exorcise only on second baptisms. I'm assuming that the record reflects the rite and a stronger exorcise was performed on those babies. João C. Ventura On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 3:50:13 PM UTC+1, John Raposo wrote: > > The practice is the same today. It was never a sin (and still is not) for > a layman to baptize a child in case the child was at risk of dying before > baptism. Note many children "batizado pela partrira", or "a avó" (the > midwife or the grandmother). That is still the case today. However, the > baptism is then recorded in the church where the child would have been > baptized and and another baptism "sub condicione" is performed in case > there was anything invalid about the first baptism (like not using the > Trinitarian formula). In hospitals throughout the US, many Christian (not > necessarily Catholic) laymen, e.g. obstetricians, nurses, etc, baptize > babies who are born with a potentially life threatening conditions, with > the permission of the parent, of course. > > Thank you for the clarification. > > John > > > > On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 7:45 AM, João Ventura > > > wrote: > Hello, Terri (and John), > > My experience in seeing the baptism records is that the priest conducts an > exorcism when the children had already been baptized by a non-priest. In > some circumstances, people believed the baby would die without being > baptized so they'd baptize them themselves. However, since these people > were not priests, before the second baptism, the priest would perform a > symbolic exorcism. > > In the records above, if you look carefully, you'll notice the reference > to the prior 'lay' baptism, which motivated the need for the exorcism. > > In the early Christian church, any Christian could baptize another. But > the power of the church would be threatened if normal people started doing > these rites.. Indeed, between 1860 and 1910, Portugal kept passing laws to > create a Civil Register, so that the birth, marriage and death certificates > could be managed by the Government and not the Church. Always with little > results, until the Monarchy was abolished and the civil society took that > power from them. I guess the exorcism was done to show the people that they > had sinned in baptizing the baby, and that a real priest was needed. > > João C. Ventura > > On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 12:36:43 PM UTC+1, John Raposo wrote: > > As I understand it, it was and still is part of the Baptismal ceremony. > Baptism is the pouring of the water over the head baptizing "in the name of > the Father" etc. But before you get to the point, there is the > anointing with holy oils and the priest applying a grain or two of salt on > his thumb to the mouth of the baby. And then there is the rejection of > Satan, declared on the baby's behalf by the Godparents. Although I am not a > priest, I think the salt applied to the lips initiates a symbollic > expulsion of Satan from the newborn leaving him clean and open to receiving > Christ. Maybe there is a priest or religious on the list that can provide > clearer (and more accurate) information. > > John Miranda Raposo > > > > On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 12:12 AM, Terri wrote: > I found it creepy by interesting that in a few baptism records I needed > for children in Ginetes, the word 'exorcismos' appeared. This does mean > exorcisms by a priest were performed right? or does this word have ANOTHER > meaning in Portuguese? I've attached two records below. > > Terri Santos > Researching Agua d'Alto, Agua de Pau, Ginetes, Vila Franca do Campo Sao > Pedro and Sao Miguel > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/ > group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this > group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+un...@ googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/azores. > > > > -- > For o
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: São Pedro, P. Delgada S. Miguel
Hi José, Yes, and no. They still keep records in churches nowadays. The difference is that before 1911 the only records were the church records. After that the Civil Registry started working, and the official certificates are the 'birth certificate' and not the 'baptism record'. In order for the Civil Registry to work however, a law was passed that all the church records before 1911 had to be transferred to the Civil Registry. The priests then started new records that you may still be able to find in the churches or in the Archive of the local Diocese. João C. Ventura On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 5:59:57 PM UTC+1, Jose A Medeiros wrote: > > 1911 the last year I believe they kept records in churchs > > On Tuesday, 5 November 2013 04:36:29 UTC-5, João Ventura wrote: > >> And a few more today, I believe... >> >> On Monday, October 28, 2013 5:08:18 PM UTC+1, Jose A Medeiros wrote: >>> >>> More baptism years added today >>> >> -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help please....Flamengos
This is how I read it: Anna DOB 6 March 1781 BAPT 14th of same month & year. (Jose Garcia Duarte X Bernarda Francisca) natives this freguesia. PATERNAL Joao Garcia Duarte X Isabel Luis MATERNAL SARGENT Francisco Ignacio, native Divine Espirito Santo, place of Feteiras X Rita Francisca, native __ ( Same as Paternos??) N.S. da Luz GODPARENTS Jose Silveira Gomes, son of ( Jose Silveira Gomes X Barbara Josepha, deceased) AND Francisca Bernards, daughter of (SARGENT Francisco Ignacio, deceased X Rita Francisca) all this freguesia. This all happened in Flamengos, Faial. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Pam Santos To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help pleaseFlamengos 6 Mar 1781 Paternal: Joao Garcia Duarte and Izabel Luis Maternal: Sargent? Francisco Ignacio and Rita Francisca she is from Nossa Senhora da Luz I don't know enough of towns on other islands so hopefully someone else can verify where he was from. maternal it is either Sarg with TA on upper right side or Jarq with the TA I think On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Lee wrote: I need help with the baptismal record of Anna, daughter of Jose Garcia Duarte and Bernarda Francisca which I've attached below: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-B-1764-1782/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-B-1764-1782_item1/P138.html I know that the year of birth is either 1781 or 82; but can't make it out completely. The real confusion I have is with the paternal and maternal grandparents who are mentioned the beginning of the record. I read them as follows: Paternal: Joao Garcia Duarte and Izabel Luis (Luisa?) Maternal : J??? Francisco and some other wording after his name (where he's from?) and Rita Francisca Any and all help with the above greatly appreciatedI just can't make it all out. Thanks! Lee -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] where to next
Celeste, I've been lurking on this Azores Google group for ages and was thrilled to see your post about the Alameda County Voter Registration Records. I have been trying to track down several of my ancestors' naturalization records as well. If anyone else is interested, here's the link to the collection at Cal State University East Bay http://library.csueastbay.edu/using-the-libraries/collections/library-special-collections/. Hopefully, I will find some additional clues. Regards, Teresa Costa Fraser Dublin, California Antone Enos Costa (great grandfather) b. 1867 Azores d. 1915 Alameda County CA Mount Saint Joseph Cemetery, aka All Saints or Portuguese Cemetery, Hayward, CA John S. Davina (2nd great grandfather) b. Pico, Azores 1838 d. 1913 Alameda County, CA Mount Saint Joseph Cemetery, aka All Saints or Portuguese Cemetery, Hayward, CA Joseph S. Santos (3rd great grandfather) b. 1826 Azores d. 1892 Alameda County, CA Holy Ghost Cemetery, aka Holy Spirit Cemetery, Fremont, CA Francisca (Luna) [?] Santos (3rd great grandfather) b. About 1839 Alameda County, CA d. 1890 Alameda County, CA Holy Ghost Cemetery, aka Holy Spirit Cemetery, Fremont, CA On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 9:41:20 AM UTC-8, celeste perry wrote: > Good idea, Rosemarie. I was looking for naturalization information for my > son-in-law's great-grandfather who lived in Oakland, CA. I could not find > any information anywhere. Because at the time I was looking, all census > info. was on microfilm, I needed to know the number of the district where > he voted. I knew the address where he lived and went to the Voter > registration department for Alameda County. > > I was told that the district numbers changed each year so there was no way > to check the number. As I was talking with the clerk, someone in the back > of the room came over and asked if I had checked the voter registration > forms that were filled out each time someone voted. I had no idea such > forms were kept. I was told they were in the, "Erickson collection." When > I asked where that "collection" was kept, I was told it was in the archives > at Cal State Hayward. (right near my house!). > > I looked at the Erickson collection, I found that the forms were in > alphabetical order and all but one form that had been signed listed either > Portugal or Azores as place of birth. On that ONE form, the island > (Flores) was listed. This was the lead I needed. Also, that form had the > information that he had been naturalized in a court in San Francisco, CA. > I still don't know why someone who lived in Oakland went to San Francisco > to be naturalized (this was before a bridge was build between Oakland and > San Francisco and also before the 1906 earthquake. There was no > naturalization papers that survived the earthquake; however, I did find > Frank Sousa's baptism when I went village by village in Flores! I did the > happy dance that day. > Celeste > > Celeste Perry ccgr...@yahoo.com > > > On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 9:24 AM, rcapodc > > > wrote: >Mike, just had a brainstorm (as was heading out the door to go vote!), > have you checked the Voting Registers for the town where he lived?? When a > person is a Naturalized Cit. it usually states it on the Voting Registers > and will say the date and which Court handled the Naturalization. > > Rosemarie > > *From:* Mike > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 05, 2013 8:51 AM > *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] where to next > > I've been trying to find my GGgrandfathers naturalization paperwork > without much luck, I'm hoping that there would be more specific info just > to make certain who I think he is, is really him. > In an interview in the Standard Times in New Bedford, Ma on March 30, 1941 > he states he became a citizen on 9/5/1901. He then took his wife and > daughter to Fayal 28 days later on 9/29/1901, he claimes to have returned > with his family on March 17th, 1902 but it was actually on May 17th, 1902 > aboard the ship Peninsular with his wife and daughter. > He was Antone Perry Sr. (Antonio Silveira Pereira), his wife Mary Perry > (Maria Leal da Rosa), and my Ggrandma Mary Perry (Maria Pereira) > Now on paper he seems to get the date of the day correct, but yet he's > almost always wrong about the year. > I looked for his naturalization and passport at the local level, county > level, state level, Nara, US immigration index search, I've also asked the > courts at the town, city, county, state and federal levels and they tell me > they have nothing. As for me trying to find him or anyone else in the CCA > records I'm almost ready to concede defeat, I can hardly match up the > information I have recieved from all of you with your translations. > Can anyone help point me the right direction? > > Mike, > Piedade, Pico, Cedros, Faial > > > > -- For options, such as changing to List, D
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results
Susan, It is interesting because I have matched your brother, but not you on Family Finder. I also came back Western European and North Africian. Diane On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 12:09 AM, wrote: > Fascinating, Susan. > > I bet it came as a real surprise. > And here I thought I was special with my 2.97% Native American. :-) > > My father got 6.84% Native American (Central American) from the Pima > tribe. The map shows that is Mexico. > But my map shows Mexico, along with all of the other Central American > countries, plus Columbia and Bolivia in South America. The tribes are Maya, > Pima, Surui, Columbian. > > Just why my results are more specific than my father's and get closer to > my known origins in Chile, makes me wonder. > > Doug da Rocha Holmes > Sacramento, California > Pico & Terceira Genealogist > 916-550-1618 > www.dholmes.com > > > Original Message > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results > From: Susan Vargas Murphy > Date: Tue, November 05, 2013 10:33 pm > To: azores@googlegroups.com > Cc: Azores@googlegroups.com > > I thought I would "join the cocktail party" because I tested both my > brother and myself on Family Finder and we are of 100% Azorean ancestry. > > My brother came back 85.8% Western European….(French and Spanish) and 14.2 > % North African (Mozabite) > > I came back as 97.58% Western European (Spanish) and 2.4% Cambodian, Han, > Japanese, Lahu, Malay, Mongolian > > As has been said…Amuzing and confusing:) > > Susan Vargas Murphy > > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Pedro records online CCa
I am waiting for S. Roque too On Friday, 25 October 2013 12:33:41 UTC-4, Pam Santos wrote: > > So they have added Sao Pedro, Ponta Delgada online on CCA site. > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results
Diane C, You will find that you will match one sibling (such as Susan's brother) but not the other (such as Susan) beginning around the 4th cousin and beyond level. The probability is in your Family Finder section, Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs), # 26. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results
Sorry Shirley I guess I did not answer this email. Her name is Agnes Cabral and I don't think so. On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > Diane C, > > You will find that you will match one sibling (such as Susan's brother) > but not the other (such as Susan) beginning around the 4th cousin and > beyond level. The probability is in your Family Finder section, Frequently > Asked Questions (FAQs), # 26. > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das > Tainhas, Achada > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results
Thank you! I just found the Middle Eastern reference. I thought it might be in my non-Azorean ancestry, but having it in Susan's brother's may narrow it down. Diane On Wed Nov 06 14:28:33 CST 2013, Cheri Mello wrote: > Diane C, > > You will find that you will match one sibling (such as Susan's > brother) but > not the other (such as Susan) beginning around the 4th cousin and > beyond > level. The probability is in your Family Finder section, > Frequently Asked > Questions (FAQs), # 26. > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira > das Tainhas, > Achada > > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No > Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this > group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the > blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will > take you to "Edit my membership." > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results
Diane, I also match Susan’s brother but not Susan. We have known (paper trail) for years that we are direct 6th cousins yet her brother caries more DNA of the line that Susan does. Cheri looked into our CM’s and I DO match Susan but FamilyTreeDNA doesn’t show it because it is smaller than Susan’s brother! Rosemarie From: Diane Cox Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 12:03 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results Susan, It is interesting because I have matched your brother, but not you on Family Finder. I also came back Western European and North Africian. Diane On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 12:09 AM, wrote: Fascinating, Susan. I bet it came as a real surprise. And here I thought I was special with my 2.97% Native American. :-) My father got 6.84% Native American (Central American) from the Pima tribe. The map shows that is Mexico. But my map shows Mexico, along with all of the other Central American countries, plus Columbia and Bolivia in South America. The tribes are Maya, Pima, Surui, Columbian. Just why my results are more specific than my father's and get closer to my known origins in Chile, makes me wonder. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico & Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results From: Susan Vargas Murphy Date: Tue, November 05, 2013 10:33 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com Cc: Azores@googlegroups.com I thought I would "join the cocktail party" because I tested both my brother and myself on Family Finder and we are of 100% Azorean ancestry. My brother came back 85.8% Western European….(French and Spanish) and 14.2 % North African (Mozabite) I came back as 97.58% Western European (Spanish) and 2.4% Cambodian, Han, Japanese, Lahu, Malay, Mongolian As has been said…Amuzing and confusing:) Susan Vargas Murphy -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Pedro records online CCa
It looks like they are only adding records on Monday and Tuesdays!! On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Jose A Medeiros wrote: > I am waiting for S. Roque too > > On Friday, 25 October 2013 12:33:41 UTC-4, Pam Santos wrote: > >> So they have added Sao Pedro, Ponta Delgada online on CCA site. >> > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Mt. St Joseph Cemetery, Hayward, CA
Hi Teresa, When I searched the voter registration records, I was able to actually look at the binders myself. I am not sure if that is still possible. Be persistent and you may be able to look yourself. I have a database for the burials at Mt. St. Joseph Cemetery in Hayward. Here is what I found buried in the graves owned by John Davner, where your ancestors are buried: John Davner, born 1875, died of cancer in 1889, buried 1913 John Davina, born 11/24/1913, died 11/27/113, 75 years, born Azores, last lived in Palomares Canyon Frances Aurora Davner, died 4/23/1929, 71 or 72 years old, born CN Eugenia Costa, died 11944 Ernest Costa, died 1941 Joseph Costa, died 1939 Antonia Costa, died 1916 Stillborn Houston, buried 1920, "on top of uncle," from Richmond Manuel Garcia, died 4/21/1931, 78 years old Urselsa Estrenoz, died 1895, buried 1913, born 1860, lived in Hayward Hope this helps you. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Exorcisms? of children in Ginetes documents
Thanks for all your answers. It gave me more insight about why a child's document would say 'exorcism'. I had first even thought that it could have been a seisure or something they saw in a child and mistook it for being 'possessed by the devil' since they wouldn't have known much about medical conditions like that in that era. But your explanations made alot of sense. On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 12:10:21 AM UTC-5, Terri wrote: > I found it creepy by interesting that in a few baptism records I needed > for children in Ginetes, the word 'exorcismos' appeared. This does mean > exorcisms by a priest were performed right? or does this word have ANOTHER > meaning in Portuguese? I've attached two records below. > > Terri Santos > Researching Agua d'Alto, Agua de Pau, Ginetes, Vila Franca do Campo Sao > Pedro and Sao Miguel > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.