RE: [AZORES-Genealogy]. New Study--Percentage of Jewish ancestry among Iberian population
I think the Moorish influence in Portugal has been greatly exaggerated over the years especially with regard to Catholicism and conversions. They had great influence in Spain and weren't expelled from that country until 1492 but in Portugal their influence was mainly in the area of commerce and architecture and confined primarily to the the south. Their influence on religion was minor at best in Portugal. By very early 1100s the Crusades had expelled the Moors from Southern Portugal. Boundaries were formed and those boundaries remain essentially the same today as they were in 1139 making Portugal the second oldest country in Europe, second to Denmark in terms of having a defined border etc. Italy for example did not become a country until the 1800s and many countries in Europe were splintered into many factions and territories until even the 1900s. Those divisions continue to this day in many other parts of Europe. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Fayal family
Good work, Eric -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Maria up on CCA Site
CCA now has two villages from Concelho of Vila do Porto. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy]. New Study--Percentage of Jewish ancestry among Iberian population
Herb, The war continued well after 1193. The Algarve province with strong Moorish influences wasn't in Portuguese control until 1250, starting in 1217 with the taking of town of Alcácer do Sal, the capture most of the Algarve in 1236 and the taking of Faro in 1249, removing the last Muslim state from Portuguese soil and ending the Portuguese Reconquista. It was in 1295 that King Diniz of Portugal essentially established the present boundaries of Portugal, with one exception, the region of Olivena, which was Portugues until the Spanish took it in 1801. Eric Edgar On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 7:17 AM, Herb herbandj...@verizon.net wrote: I think the Moorish influence in Portugal has been greatly exaggerated over the years especially with regard to Catholicism and conversions. They had great influence in Spain and weren't expelled from that country until 1492 but in Portugal their influence was mainly in the area of commerce and architecture and confined primarily to the the south. Their influence on religion was minor at best in Portugal. By very early 1100s the Crusades had expelled the Moors from Southern Portugal. Boundaries were formed and those boundaries remain essentially the same today as they were in 1139 making Portugal the second oldest country in Europe, second to Denmark in terms of having a defined border etc. Italy for example did not become a country until the 1800s and many countries in Europe were splintered into many factions and territories until even the 1900s. Those divisions continue to this day in many other parts of Europe. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Maria up on CCA Site
Oh my gosh! I'm over the top happy to see Santa Maria come on line! Nancy Jean Baptista Santa Maria for Cabral, Moreira, Andrade, Melo and more. Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 08:09:56 -0800 From: eman...@resendes.ws To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Maria up on CCA Site CCA now has two villages from Concelho of Vila do Porto. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy]. New Study--Percentage of Jewish ancestry among Iberian population
The percentages may be too high. I know of another study in progress and it's not supporting the 20% rate. Far less. We'll have to wait and see what their final numbers are when they publish it. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help
Adair, Can you post the link and let us know what you can read and cannot read? Can you read your ancestors names? On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 6:53 AM, Adair Borba adair1...@icloud.com wrote: Morning, Could anyone help translate this document? I am hoping for a tidbit of information on my randparents. Thank you in advance, Adair Borba -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Abreu from Flamengos, Fayal
I am wondering if anyone might have a connection to my 7th great grandparents. Domingos de Abreu was born in Flamengos. he married Luisa Goulart also born in Flamengos I have no dates except that they had a daughter, Josepha Rosa, born in Flamengos and she married in 1767 to Caetano de Sousa of Horta. I'll find her marriage record and see if there might be any other mention of her parents. Nancy Jean -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Abreu from Flamengos, Fayal
Nancy,Did you realize this Caetano de Sousa is actually from Pico?I probably won't be able to prove it, but there is a decent chance I'm related to him.I don't remember. Are we showing as related from Family Finder? If so, maybe this is the link.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Abreu from Flamengos, Fayal From: nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, February 25, 2014 10:53 am To: azores group azores@googlegroups.com I am wondering if anyone might have a connection to my 7th great grandparents.Domingos de Abreu was born in Flamengos.he married Luisa Goulart also born in FlamengosI have no dates except that they had a daughter, Josepha Rosa,born in Flamengos and she married in 1767 to Caetano de Sousa of Horta.I'll find her marriage record and see if there might be any other mention of her parents.Nancy Jean-- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Maria up on CCA Site
I would also note that the rest of Sao Pedro in Vila Franca do Campo is posted. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of nancy jean baptiste Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 11:43 AM To: azores group Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Maria up on CCA Site Oh my gosh! I'm over the top happy to see Santa Maria come on line! Nancy Jean Baptista Santa Maria for Cabral, Moreira, Andrade, Melo and more. _ Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 08:09:56 -0800 From: eman...@resendes.ws To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Maria up on CCA Site CCA now has two villages from Concelho of Vila do Porto. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy]. New Study--Percentage of Jewish ancestry among Iberian population
Yes Eric that is essentially correct. I am familiar with the the battle of Ourique and the history of Portugal but I think I have made the point I wanted to make. We learn new things on DNA everyday. DNA testing is still in infancy and we will continue to learn more in the coming years. Knowing the history of a nation and it's people allows us to better understand results of DNA studies and to examine those studies with a critical eye. Thanks -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sousa (Batata) Family
Thank you, Rick. Which of the tests do you recommend? Which one did most people in this group do? I see the range in price is quite significant. On Monday, February 24, 2014 5:00:06 PM UTC-5, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote: *Hello Joseph,* *This link will take you to the Azores DNA Project of Family Tree DNA. http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Azores/ http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Azores/ On the blue bar you will see “Join Request” click on that and the next page use option “B” Order a test to join this project. If you have any questions you can contact any of the group administrators.* *Rick* *Family Tree DNA Co-AdministratorAzores DNA Project* *Azores DNA Project Co-Administrators* *All unpaid volunteers * *Cheri Mello – gfsche...@gmail.com javascript: * *Rick Pimentel – rickredle...@gmail.com javascript: * *Nancy Jean Baptista - fishsongf...@hotmail.com javascript: * *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *Joseph Costa *Sent:* Monday, February 24, 2014 11:34 AM *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sousa (Batata) Family Cheryl: How do I get the DNA test? Did you get my message about my great granmother? On Sunday, February 23, 2014 7:07:12 PM UTC-5, Cheryl Lawrence wrote: Joe, Although I don't have that family in my line (yet), a bunch of us in the group have ancestors from Vila Franca (I descend from the Furtado Lourenco line). Have you considered doing a DNA test? It helps find cousins and gives you a breakdown of your ancestry. I bet you would match with a lot of us on here! On Feb 23, 2014 11:22 AM, Joseph Costa jwcos...@gmail.com wrote: Good morning everyone. My name is Joe Costa. I live in Norfolk, MA. I’m new to this group. For a number of years, like the rest of you, I have been researching my Azorean genealogy. I understand that some people on here may trace back to the Sousa (Batata) family of Vila Franca. Jose de Sousa (Batata) (1844-1914) was my 1st great grandfather on my mom’s side. Her maiden name was Souza. I would love to touch base with anyone who has more information on this family and to see how we all tie together. My tree (Costa/Murray Family) is on ancestry.com. You can contact me there (user name: jwcosta1) or leave a posting for me here. Best, Joe -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Maria up on CCA Site
Ja nao era sem tempo!! I'm so happy!!... :') 2014-02-25 17:42 GMT+00:00 nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com: Oh my gosh! I'm over the top happy to see Santa Maria come on line! Nancy Jean Baptista Santa Maria for Cabral, Moreira, Andrade, Melo and more. -- Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 08:09:56 -0800 From: eman...@resendes.ws To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Maria up on CCA Site CCA now has two villages from Concelho of Vila do Porto. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help
This is not in a format that can be opened. Eric Edgar On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 6:53 AM, Adair Borba adair1...@icloud.com wrote: Morning, Could anyone help translate this document? I am hoping for a tidbit of information on my randparents. Thank you in advance, Adair Borba -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy]. New Study--Percentage of Jewish ancestry among Iberian population
King Diniz is my 21st grgrandfather. He was married to Queen Isabel of Spain Portugal. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: luiznoia . To: Azores Genealogy Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy]. New Study--Percentage of Jewish ancestry among Iberian population Herb, The war continued well after 1193. The Algarve province with strong Moorish influences wasn't in Portuguese control until 1250, starting in 1217 with the taking of town of Alcácer do Sal, the capture most of the Algarve in 1236 and the taking of Faro in 1249, removing the last Muslim state from Portuguese soil and ending the Portuguese Reconquista. It was in 1295 that King Diniz of Portugal essentially established the present boundaries of Portugal, with one exception, the region of Olivena, which was Portugues until the Spanish took it in 1801. Eric Edgar On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 7:17 AM, Herb herbandj...@verizon.net wrote: I think the Moorish influence in Portugal has been greatly exaggerated over the years especially with regard to Catholicism and conversions. They had great influence in Spain and weren't expelled from that country until 1492 but in Portugal their influence was mainly in the area of commerce and architecture and confined primarily to the the south. Their influence on religion was minor at best in Portugal. By very early 1100s the Crusades had expelled the Moors from Southern Portugal. Boundaries were formed and those boundaries remain essentially the same today as they were in 1139 making Portugal the second oldest country in Europe, second to Denmark in terms of having a defined border etc. Italy for example did not become a country until the 1800s and many countries in Europe were splintered into many factions and territories until even the 1900s. Those divisions continue to this day in many other parts of Europe. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Maria up on CCA Site
Today is a great day for the Genealogistas Cagarros [?] Thank you CCA!!! On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 3:09 PM, EResendes eman...@resendes.ws wrote: CCA now has two villages from Concelho of Vila do Porto. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. B97.gif
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy]. New Study--Percentage of Jewish ancestry among Iberian population
Very cool! -Trevor -Original Message- From: Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.net To: azores azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, Feb 25, 2014 3:33 pm Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy]. New Study--Percentage of Jewish ancestry among Iberian population King Diniz is my 21st grgrandfather. He was married to Queen Isabel of Spain Portugal. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: luiznoia . To: Azores Genealogy Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy]. New Study--Percentage of Jewish ancestry among Iberian population Herb, Thewar continued well after 1193. The Algarve province with strong Moorish influences wasn't in Portuguese control until 1250, starting in 1217 with the taking of town of Alcácer do Sal, the capture most of the Algarve in 1236 and the taking of Faro in 1249, removing the last Muslim state from Portuguese soil and ending the Portuguese Reconquista. It was in 1295 that King Diniz of Portugal essentially established the present boundaries of Portugal, with one exception, the region of Olivena, which was Portugues until the Spanish took it in 1801. Eric Edgar On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 7:17 AM, Herb herbandj...@verizon.net wrote: I think the Moorish influence in Portugal has been greatly exaggerated over the years especially with regard to Catholicism and conversions. They had great influence in Spain and weren't expelled from that country until 1492 but in Portugal their influence was mainly in the area of commerce and architecture and confined primarily to the the south. Their influence on religion was minor at best in Portugal. By very early 1100s the Crusades had expelled the Moors from Southern Portugal. Boundaries were formed and those boundaries remain essentially the same today as they were in 1139 making Portugal the second oldest country in Europe, second to Denmark in terms of having a defined border etc. Italy for example did not become a country until the 1800s and many countries in Europe were splintered into many factions and territories until even the 1900s. Those divisions continue to this day in many other parts of Europe. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Abreu from Flamengos, Fayal
Hi Doug, Caetano de Sousa is pai incognito and according to NEPS born in Horta (Conceicao) to Agueda da Boa Nova. I found his marriage to Jacinta Rosa in Matriz Horta 1727-1802 page 0182. It appears his mother is from Bandeiras but it's unclear and I don't see Pico mentioned in the record. There's a side note that is unclear to me. I haven't noticed any marches with you or your dad. I also keep the DNA for my Uncle, John Cardoza Baptiste and I haven't noticed a match to you with him either. Nancy Jean From: p...@dholmes.com To: azores@googlegroups.com CC: fishsongf...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Abreu from Flamengos, Fayal Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 11:09:16 -0700 Nancy, Did you realize this Caetano de Sousa is actually from Pico?I probably won't be able to prove it, but there is a decent chance I'm related to him.I don't remember. Are we showing as related from Family Finder? If so, maybe this is the link. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Abreu from Flamengos, Fayal From: nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, February 25, 2014 10:53 am To: azores group azores@googlegroups.com I am wondering if anyone might have a connection to my 7th great grandparents. Domingos de Abreu was born in Flamengos. he married Luisa Goulart also born in Flamengos I have no dates except that they had a daughter, Josepha Rosa, born in Flamengos and she married in 1767 to Caetano de Sousa of Horta. I'll find her marriage record and see if there might be any other mention of her parents. Nancy Jean -- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Maria up on CCA Site
Repost for Maria Lima: I just found Santa Maria island is online. I just don't know if that's all the parishes for now. Got lots,of looking to do and the priest had beautiful penmanship. (At least the Casa mentors in 1790-ish. Maria Elena Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Maria up on CCA Site
There are 5 freguesias on Santa Maria, but 4 only have records because one is too new. You can find them on the Azores GenWeb page and Kathy will provide the links to the CCA records from the Azores GenWeb site. You can also access the records from the Tombo site, but he hasn't crawled the CCA yet. Maybe tonight. http://tombo.pt/d/acores On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Repost for Maria Lima: I just found Santa Maria island is online. I just don't know if that's all the parishes for now. Got lots,of looking to do and the priest had beautiful penmanship. (At least the Casa mentors in 1790-ish. Maria Elena Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Fayal family
Jose Silveira da Rosa Abroa b. abt 1841 Fayal,Azores d.22 Jun 1899 Alameda County, CA ( his father , Jose Silveira da Rosa Abroa (no dates or wife listed ) his uncle Antonio Silveira da Rosa Abroa (no wife listed) lived in Dakota, now Union City, CA) (his grand parents listed as, Paternal, Manuel da Rosa Maria Florinda, Maternal , Antonio Ticeira Caterina da San Jose m . Mariana Silva Rodrigues b. abt 1845 Fayal, Azores d. 1911 Alameda County, CA. ( she is on the 1900 census living with Adeline John. Listed as a widow) Note says she had 2 sisters Maria Jose Silva Rodrigues, never married. Clara Florinda Silva Rodrigues Hendricks. She came to CA. (Aunts to Lena brothers) They had 4 children Jose, Jacinto, John, Lena . (Note says Jacinto died, Flamingos, Fayal, when a child of yellow fever.) That is the only clue as to the place where they lived. When the family came to U.S.A. they changed the last name to BROWN and lived in the Dakota, Niles region of Alameda County, CA Lena changed her name to Adeline and she married John S. Silva (from Fayal). (They are my great grandparents). Lena/Adelines’s brother , Jose Silveira Rosa Abroa Brown b. 14 Mar 1866 Alameda County, CA d. 25 Oct 1935 Alameda County, CA m. 1891 Amelia da Gloria Goulart b. 12 Aug 1872 Alameda County, CA d. 25 Jan 1949 Alameda County, CA They had 6 children born in Alameda County, CA 1. Mary b. 03 Sept 1893 2. Emily b. 21 Oct 1894 3. Anna b. abt 1896 d. @ 6 mos . 4. Peter b. 22 Jun 1899 d. 17 May 1946, 5. Lena b. 07 Jun 1914 6. Joseph b. 01 Apr 1907 - Original Message - From: Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 4:52:23 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Fayal family I couldn't open the attachment. Can you send it some other way? My husband has ancestors from Flamingos, Faial. If you would send me some names, I can look and see if I have them in my PC. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: bmmarc...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 4:08 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Fayal family A distant cousin gave me her copy of this tree many years ago way before computers came to be. I have not had any luck in finding them as I am not sure of where they lived. My great grandparents were from Fayal Island. That we do know for sure from some documents. The only place mentioned is Flamingos with Jacinto's death. I am hoping that someone on this list might have them in their tree. Might even know about them.. Thank you for any all help. Beverly -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores . -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores . -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Maria up on CCA Site
Cheri, the newest one is Almagreira, and there are a few online books already, before those years, one must go to Assunção, in other words, Vila do Porto. And those are the only Parishes online for now. On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: There are 5 freguesias on Santa Maria, but 4 only have records because one is too new. You can find them on the Azores GenWeb page and Kathy will provide the links to the CCA records from the Azores GenWeb site. You can also access the records from the Tombo site, but he hasn't crawled the CCA yet. Maybe tonight. http://tombo.pt/d/acores On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Repost for Maria Lima: I just found Santa Maria island is online. I just don't know if that's all the parishes for now. Got lots,of looking to do and the priest had beautiful penmanship. (At least the Casa mentors in 1790-ish. Maria Elena Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] S. Sebastião in Santa Maria?
I recently found a line from S. Pedro of Vila Franca that goes to Santa Maria. The problem is that states that the groom parents were from the parish of s. Sebastiao Santa Maria island. I am not even aware of any church in Santa Maria whose patron would be s. Sebastiao. I even researched online and nothing came up. If anyone has any ideas that would be very much appreciated. I wonder If the priest meant Assunção? Sent from my iPhone -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Could you help me out with a few names?
Hi Everyone. I think I just found a couple that I've been looking for. I was wondering if you could help me out with a few names. I'm looking for Francisco Rocha and Anna Teves. Married around this time of this certificate. Sao Sebastiao ' Sao Miguel. Certificate Marriage Sao Sebastiao 1615-1650 #0101 Francisco ? and Anna Teves . she is the daughter of Manuel Goncalves and Simon? de Meses? Could you please help me with these names so I can make sure I have the correct people? Thanks alot Pat Mello 15 degrees in Dartmouth Ma. snow tomorrow.:( -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Could you help me out with a few names?
Dec 12, 1641, Franco Frz (Francisco Fernandes though it could be Pires as in Piz) son of same and Maria Roiz' deceased, residents of this fraguesia (Sao Sebastiao, PD) com Anna de Teve filha de Mel Glz (Manuel Goncalves) and Simoa de Meses, both deceased, residents of Capellas. Not a match, but it might still be the same couple. You may have to look for some baptisms to see if there was a name change. Note for example that someone made an error with your Ursula/Theresa Machado line. JR On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 6:17:48 PM UTC-5, Pat Sylvia wrote: Hi Everyone. I think I just found a couple that I've been looking for. I was wondering if you could help me out with a few names. I'm looking for Francisco Rocha and Anna Teves. Married around this time of this certificate. Sao Sebastiao ' Sao Miguel. Certificate Marriage Sao Sebastiao 1615-1650 #0101 Francisco ? and Anna Teves . she is the daughter of Manuel Goncalves and Simon? de Meses? Could you please help me with these names so I can make sure I have the correct people? Thanks alot Pat Mello 15 degrees in Dartmouth Ma. snow tomorrow.:( -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Could you help me out with a few names?
thank you Jr, I will check Baptisms - Original Message - From: JR jmro...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 6:46:57 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Could you help me out with a few names? Dec 12, 1641, Fran co F rz (Francisco Fernandes though it could be Pires as in P iz ) son of same and Maria Roiz' deceased, residents of this fraguesia (Sao Sebastiao, PD) com Anna de Teve filha de M el G lz (Manuel Goncalves) and Simoa de Meses, both deceased, residents of Capellas. Not a match, but it might still be the same couple. You may have to look for some baptisms to see if there was a name change. Note for example that someone made an error with your Ursula/Theresa Machado line. JR On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 6:17:48 PM UTC-5, Pat Sylvia wrote: Hi Everyone. I think I just found a couple that I've been looking for. I was wondering if you could help me out with a few names. I'm looking for Francisco Rocha and Anna Teves. Married around this time of this certificate. Sao Sebastiao ' Sao Miguel. Certificate Marriage Sao Sebastiao 1615-1650 #0101 Francisco ? and Anna Teves . she is the daughter of Manuel Goncalves and Simon? de Meses? Could you please help me with these names so I can make sure I have the correct people? Thanks alot Pat Mello 15 degrees in Dartmouth Ma. snow tomorrow.:( -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores . -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Maria up on CCA Site
I will be busy!! On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Ricardo Chaves chave...@gmail.com wrote: Cheri, the newest one is Almagreira, and there are a few online books already, before those years, one must go to Assunção, in other words, Vila do Porto. And those are the only Parishes online for now. On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: There are 5 freguesias on Santa Maria, but 4 only have records because one is too new. You can find them on the Azores GenWeb page and Kathy will provide the links to the CCA records from the Azores GenWeb site. You can also access the records from the Tombo site, but he hasn't crawled the CCA yet. Maybe tonight. http://tombo.pt/d/acores On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Repost for Maria Lima: I just found Santa Maria island is online. I just don't know if that's all the parishes for now. Got lots,of looking to do and the priest had beautiful penmanship. (At least the Casa mentors in 1790-ish. Maria Elena Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] S. Sebastião in Santa Maria?
I'd guess Assunção. I'd also guess that the priest had too much vinho at that wedding :) There are only 4 places to check on S. Maria, so I'd start there. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Post the links only. Do not attach files
Why I ask people to post the link. Reasons for posting the link: 1) Makes it easier on the translators. They just click the link and read the parts you are having problems with. Requester is not taking up any more of their time by asking them to navigate the CCA site and drill down to that particular record. All that is needed to be told to look at the top right, bottom left, etc. 2) Unless Requester is sure that their format works on all PCs, Macs, Linux and that everyone who reads their post has the same software, the upload won't work. It would have to uploaded in multiple formats, taking up more space in our archive/web board/forum. The link doesn't take up that much space. 3) At least 10 people will send a message to the list saying they can't open the file. The list is busy enough without the extra traffic. Who wants to come home from a long day at work and find 10 messages in their inbox saying that they can't read the file? Please post the links everyone! Thanks! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Maria up on CCA Site
I think its great that all of these villages are being posted. I hope everyone finds all of the records they need and prat every day for a small miracle to happen and the Ribeira Grande records will some day posted. But I'm getting older now and gradually losing hope. LOL Herb On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 2:46:25 PM UTC-5, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote: *I would also note that the rest of Sao Pedro in Vila Franca do Campo is posted.* *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *nancy jean baptiste *Sent:* Tuesday, February 25, 2014 11:43 AM *To:* azores group *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Maria up on CCA Site Oh my gosh! I'm over the top happy to see Santa Maria come on line! Nancy Jean Baptista Santa Maria for Cabral, Moreira, Andrade, Melo and more. -- Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 08:09:56 -0800 From: ema...@resendes.ws javascript: To: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Maria up on CCA Site CCA now has two villages from Concelho of Vila do Porto. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel da Silva and Jozefa Leira Achada Grande
Sorry Aaron, I too have been busy with a couple of things and now having the chance to catch up. My husband descends of Joao and Engracia's daughter Genoveva. Her marriage link below. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADA-C-1758-1787/SMG-ND-ACHADA-C-1758-1787_item1/P85.html Genoveva da Silva married Francisco Raposo. They had Jeronima Maria da Silva who married Manuel Carreiro. They had Jose Antonio da Silva Carreiro Lazaro who married Maria Candida da Rocha. They had Manuel Carreiro Lazaro da Silva who married Rosa Vitoria de Pimentel, his maternal great-grandparents Nordeste region. His paternal line, Vicente, is from Ponta Delgada. According to my personal findings during a certain timeline women were carrying the surnames of their Mothers, and later on there was a switch and the records show them bearing their Father's surname instead. It is obvious from their obits the Arruda to be her Father's surname and the Maria Vieira listed above might be her sister. Most families would choose Godparents from within their immediate family. I will check this further to see if we can connect the dots. JR (John Roias) has given a link worth exploring. Early records unfortunately are very limited and obits don't give reasons for the deaths. When you see records like these just a couple of days from each other, she died on the first and he died on the 3rd day, leads me to believe it could have been something contagious, in those days, measles and chicken pocks or a certain strain of the flu would be enough to cause death. If and when I may find anything more conclusive I will email. On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 4:23 AM, Aaron Pereira pereirah...@gmail.comwrote: Hello Mara. Sorry for the late reply, I sleep in the day and work a strange mid shift, so all of my posts are usually in the late night to early morning hours. That's very interesting because I was actually going to ask you about your surname, Vicente. I have family in Hawaii with the surname Vicente. Francisco de Medeiros Jardim and Maria Vicente's daughter, Margaret Jardim (later Jardin) married a Pereira.(1924). But, It does seem that your husband and I do share some commonality. Your husband is a descendent of one of Joao and Engracia's children? Which child, if you don't mind? I'm from his son Francisco. Btw, I also have Barbara de Sousa and Manuel in my family tree. Also, I wanted to run something by you and get your opinion. I look at Joao da Silva's marriage to Engracia (1759) and I notice that Manuel da Sylva and Josepha are alive, but in in 1766, Manuel's daughter, Maria da Silva's marriage, it states that both Manuel and Josepha have passed on. So, I look in the obitos, between 1760 and 1766, and this is what I find...they're listings are next to each other, (1761) the same month and the same year, I can't tell the day, but it looks pretty close if not a few days apart. But, Josepha is listed as Josepha de Arruda. So, I check a few baptism records for the children of Manuel and Josepha, and there is a Francisco de Arruda listed in the bottom part, under testamentos. He is listed as one of the fathers of a godparent, Maria Vieira. here is Josepha and Manuels death records, Josepha is very bottom, left side of page, and Manuel is very top, right side of page. http://goo.gl/4lGAKe here is the other Joseph's baptism, there were two children named Joseph http://goo.gl/DCA0W6 and here is Maria's baptism http://goo.gl/7fHypo one of the godparents is Maria Vieira, daughter of Francisco de Arruda. I'm very curious as to Manuel's and Josepha's cause of death. I can't read portuguese,very well, but I'm learning. I use google translate for the profession of one of my ancestors (Campónio) and it tells me my ancestor was a redneck haha, I though that was funny. I find it means a peasant or farmer. That makes sense because my family farmed cotton and other crops for generations I also wanted to say thanks to you and others who helped clarify Josepha's surname, Vieira On Sunday, February 23, 2014 6:07:56 AM UTC-8, Mara wrote: Aaron, I took a look at my tree and guess what Manuel da Silva and Josefa Breysa? are direct ancestor's of my husband through their son Joao da Silva married to Engracia de Sousa, daughter of Manuel Furtado Rebelo and Barbara de Sousa. Manuel and Josefa are the end of this line. On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 3:32 AM, Aaron Pereira perei...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, Thanks Cheri and Mara. I will try to find their death records, maybe that will give me a little more info. I won't be able to go to Salt Lake, too much work. I will plan to go next year. My goal for this is year is to travel to the Azores. On Saturday, February 22, 2014 9:40:54 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote: Aaron P, It's Engracia. They make the handwritten C so big that it looks like an L or F. Back to the marriage. If it's there, it's a
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pesquisa de Passaportes
Cheri, In a previous post on the subject (Pesquisa de Passaportes Feb. 7) you passed along Mel's e-mail address. I tried to send a message and have yet to hear from her. I also tried the website yourislandroutes.com and sent her a message via the e-mail address there, still nor reply. Either she is busy to reply or both addresses are incorrect. If you type in islandroutes.com it takes you to a Caribbean travel site. Do you know of a different address to contact Mel? Paul G. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
