Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] I need some help reading this record.

2016-07-21 Thread Margaret Vicente
Edna, you've got both the date and names correct.  Some times
people/priests dropped or added names/surnames.  Try finding other children
to see if "de Quadros" shows up but I'm inclined to think this is the
record you're looking for if the date matches more or less.



On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 11:09 PM, Edna Epps  wrote:

> *I am looking for the birth date of my 3rd G Grandmother.  Her name is
> Ignascia Luiza  and her parents are Antonio Machado aka Antonio Machado de
> Quadros. and Maria de Concaecio.  I think “maybe” the last record on the
> right side of this page “might” be her birth record. *
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-VELAS-B-1777-1784/SJR-VL-VELAS-B-1777-1784_item1/P32.html
> *I think it says Ignacia filha of Antonio (?) Machado. . Mariante (?)
> native and lives in villa de Velas, on Island of Sao Jorge, and his wife
> Maria (?) de Concaecio  also a Native.?? born on 26th day of November
> 1778.  Baptised on the 3rd day of Dec 1778, Godparents  ???.  I have spend
> days, weeks looking for this birth and I know I may be trying to make this
> one fit, ...but it’s the closest I’ve found.[image: Winking smile]   Any
> and all help is appreciated.*
> *Thanks*
>
>
>
>
>
> *ednadave-e...@comcast.net Isaiah 30:18 "Yet the
> Lord longs to be gracious to you; He rises to show you compassion. For the
> Lord is a Godof justice, Blessed are all who wait for Him"*
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] http://tombo.pt down again

2016-07-21 Thread jperrym via Azores Genealogy
Hi Cheri,


I've been a quite follower of your board for many years. This is the first time 
I"ve replied. My Great Grandfather, Joao Baptiste Perreira came from Terceira 
and my Great Grandmother was from Pico. I recently visited both islands for two 
reasons:  one to see where my ancestors came from, but also because I am 
writing a novel and some of it takes place in Praia da Vittoria in Terceira. I 
went with my daughter and it was a wonderful visit.


While there took a lot of pictures and made a lot of notes for my book, which I 
am now working on the section that takes place in Praia da Vittoria. One of the 
things I want to reference is a very small chapel, and I found a description of 
it, but it is in Portuguese, which I don't speak! So I'm stuck. 


The first person I thought of turning to for help with the translation is you. 
Would you be willing to translate this for me, or do you know someone who might 
do me such a nice favor? I would be so grateful!


Thank you!


Jack (Perry) Matthews



O Império dos Marítimos da freguesia de Santa Cruz, concelho da Praia da 
Vitória, Terceira, fica situado no Largo José Silvestre Ribeiro, no local onde 
foi outrora a Ermida de São Pedro Gonçalves, e a sua data de construção remonta 
ao último quartel do século XIX, ao ano de 1877.


Esta irmandade celebra a festa em honra do Divino Espírito Santo no denominado 
Domingo da Trindade.
O Império dos Marítimos contem imagens e tem a forma de uma capela. Devido ao 
pequeno número de irmãos e às dificuldades vigentes, esta irmandade não tem 
tido a possibilidade de realizar  atividades culturais durante a semana. Porém, 
no Domingo da Trindade realiza-se o cortejo do Divino Espírito Santo, 
acompanhado por uma filarmónica para a Igreja, onde é celebrada missa de festa, 
no fim da qual se realizam as coroações. Neste dia tiram-se os pelouros e é 
nomeada a comissão para o ano seguinte.


No âmbito da festa deste império, realiza-se, no sábado seguinte, uma tourada à 
corda.



-Original Message-
From: Cheri Mello 
To: Azores Genealogy 
Sent: Thu, Jul 14, 2016 12:59 pm
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] http://tombo.pt down again



Tombo.pt, a portal, gateway, or Table of Contents to the CCA is working just 
fine. 


The CCA is working for me as it usually does too. At least from my computer. :)



Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada



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[AZORES-Genealogy] CORVO is on Universidade do Minho/NEPS

2016-07-21 Thread Eliseu Pacheco da Silva
HI!

The Genealogy of Corvo Island is made available for everyone  by Norberta
Amorim of Pico. Go to NEPS and enjoy!
(http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/genealogias.html)

 

Muito Obrigado,

Eliseu Pacheco da Silva, "sharing is the best way of growth. so stay gold!"

Azores (S. Miguel, Graciosa, Faial); Mainland (Alentejo)

(http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel?lang=en)

 

 

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CORVO is on Universidade do Minho/NEPS

2016-07-21 Thread Rosemarie Capodicci
Eliseu, I don't have anyone from the Island of Corvo but it is another
great resource! Thank you for advising all of us of it's availability!

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 6:34 AM, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva <
eliseuman...@gmail.com> wrote:

> HI!
>
> The Genealogy of Corvo Island is made available for everyone  by Norberta
> Amorim of Pico. Go to NEPS and enjoy! (
> http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/genealogias.html)
>
>
>
> Muito Obrigado,
>
> *Eliseu Pacheco da Silva, “sharing is the best way of growth… so stay
> gold!”*
>
> *Azores (S. Miguel, Graciosa, Faial); Mainland (Alentejo)*
>
> (http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel?lang=en)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel da Costa Carvalho from Vila Franca do Campo - S. MIguel - Ancestry

2016-07-21 Thread mances
The notes for Antonio da Costa (12) are wrong. It's a reference to another 
person. Just delete them.

Manoel

Em quarta-feira, 20 de julho de 2016 21:34:51 UTC-3, mances escreveu:
>
> John and Júlio,
>
> Here's what I have found so far about Manuel da Costa Carvalho and his 
> wife Margarida da Costa. If you find any inaccurate information please let 
> me know.
> Gaspar Fernandes (16) in this line was already in my tree.
>
>
> *Ahnentafel Chart for Francisca da Costa*
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *First Generation*
>
>  
>
>   1.* Francisca da Costa * was born on 3 Nov 1710 in Matriz, Vila 
> Franca do Campo. 
>
>  
>
> Batismo - CCA # #9. Filha de Manuel da Costa Carvalho e Margarida da 
> Costa. Pd: Sebastião de 
>
> Arruda, solteiro, natural da freguesia de São Mateus, Ponta Delgada.
>
>  
>
> Do termo de seu casamento consta a alcunha de seu pai Manuel da Costa 
> Grosso.
>
>  
>
> Francisca married *João da Costa * son of João da Costa Romeiro and Maria 
> da Cunha on 24 May 1728 in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. João was born on 5 
> Dec 1704 in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. He died on 14 Jul 1744 in Matriz, 
> Vila Franca do Campo. 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *Second Generation*
>
>  
>
>   2.* Manuel da Costa Carvalho * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do 
> Campo. He died before 1728. He married Margarida da Costa on 25 May 1704 in 
> Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>
>  
>
> Casamento - CCA #144
>
>  
>
> Também documentado como Manuel da Costa Grosso no termo de casamento de 
> sua filha 
>
> Francisca da Costa.
>
>  
>
> Filhos de Manuel da Costa Carvalho e Margarida da Costa batizados na 
> Matriz de Vila Franca do 
>
> Campo:
>
> . José, n. 29.3.1705 - CCA #160. Filho de Manuel da Costa e Margarida da 
> Costa, moradores às 
>
> hortas. Pd: Pe. Gonçalo Martins, morador nesta vila.
>
> . Teresa, n. 16.12.1706 - CCA #202. Filha de Manuel da Costa e Margarida 
> da Costa, moradores às 
>
> hortas. Pd: Pe. Gonçalo Martins, freguês e natural desta paróquia.
>
> . Teresa (2.ª do nome), n. 15.1.1708- CCA #227. Filha de Manuel da Costa 
> Carvalho e Margarida 
>
> da Costa. Pd: Sebastião Lopes e sua mulher Joana de Lima, moradores nesta 
> vila. 
>
> . Teresa (3.ª do nome), n. 15.9.1709 - CCA #249. Filha de Manuel da Costa 
> e Margarida da Costa, 
>
> moradores às hortas e fregueses desta igreja Matriz de São Miguel e dela 
> naturais. Pd: Sebastião 
>
> de Arruda e sua irmã Luzia Carvalho, moradores nos Arrifes, freguesia de 
> São Mateus da cidade de 
>
> Ponta Delgada.
>
> . Francisca, n. 3.11.1710 - CCA #9. Filha de Manuel da Costa Carvalho e 
> Margarida da Costa. Pd: 
>
> Sebastião de Arruda, solteiro, natural da freguesia de São Mateus, Ponta 
> Delgada.
>
>  
>
> Obs.: Na Matriz de Vila Franca do Campo em 20.1.1708 - CCA #227, há o 
> batismo de Teresa filha de Manuel da Costa Carvalho e Margarida da Costa. 
> Pd: Sebastião Lopes e sua mulher Joana de Lima, fregueses desta Matriz. 
> (Termo de batismo repetido)
>
>  
>
>  
>
>   3.* Margarida da Costa * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *Third Generation*
>
>  
>
>   4.* Gaspar da Costa * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. He 
> died before 1704. He married Luzia Carvalho on 25 Feb 1670 in Matriz, Vila 
> Franca do Campo. 
>
>  
>
> Casamento - CCA #3
>
> Morador na Ribeira Seca, Vila Franca do Campo.
>
>  
>
>  
>
>   5.* Luzia Carvalho * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>
>  
>
>   6.* Manuel da Costa * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. He 
> died before 1704. He 
>
> married Catarina de Lima on 16 Oct 1681 in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>
>  
>
> Casamento - CCA #35
>
> Morador nas Hortas, Vila Franca do Campo.
>
>  
>
>  
>
>   7.* Catarina de Lima * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *Fourth Generation*
>
>  
>
>   8.* André Fernandes * was born on 8 Dec 1602 in Matriz, Ribeira 
> Grande. He married Beatriz da Costa on 19 Dec 1639 in Matriz, Vila Franca 
> do Campo. 
>
>  
>
> Batismo - CCA #231. Pd: Francisco Pires Paiva e Ana Pires.
>
> Casamento - CCA #139
>
>  
>
>  
>
>   9.* Beatriz da Costa * was born in Matriz, Ribeira Grande. 
>
>  
>
> 10.* Manuel Raposo * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. He 
> married Águeda Carvalho. 
>
>  
>
> 11.* Águeda Carvalho * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>
>  
>
> 12.* Antonio da Costa * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. He 
> died before 1681. He married Maria Fernandes. 
>
>  
>
> Antonio da Ponte - Morador na Matriz de Ponta Delgada, e possivelmente 
> natural de São Roque.
>
> Há na Matriz de Ponta Delgada o casamento de Antonio da Ponte e Maria de 
> Resendes em 27.6.
>
> 1645 - EC #56. Ele é filho de Antonio da Ponte e Maria da Costa, ambos 
> falecidos, de S. Roque.
>
> Idem, 29.5.1651 - CCA #61, casamento de João da Costa com Luzia Coelho. 
> Ele é filho de Antonio 
>
> da Ponte e Maria da Costa.
>
>  
>
>  
>
> 13.* Maria Fernandes * was born in Matriz, Vila 

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel da Costa Carvalho from Vila Franca do Campo - S. MIguel - Ancestry

2016-07-21 Thread Júlio
Obrigado. grande Ajuda.

Tambem tinha o Gaspar Fernandes.



quinta-feira, 21 de Julho de 2016 às 00:34:51 UTC, mances escreveu:
>
> John and Júlio,
>
> Here's what I have found so far about Manuel da Costa Carvalho and his 
> wife Margarida da Costa. If you find any inaccurate information please let 
> me know.
> Gaspar Fernandes (16) in this line was already in my tree.
>
>
> *Ahnentafel Chart for Francisca da Costa*
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *First Generation*
>
>  
>
>   1.* Francisca da Costa * was born on 3 Nov 1710 in Matriz, Vila 
> Franca do Campo. 
>
>  
>
> Batismo - CCA # #9. Filha de Manuel da Costa Carvalho e Margarida da 
> Costa. Pd: Sebastião de 
>
> Arruda, solteiro, natural da freguesia de São Mateus, Ponta Delgada.
>
>  
>
> Do termo de seu casamento consta a alcunha de seu pai Manuel da Costa 
> Grosso.
>
>  
>
> Francisca married *João da Costa * son of João da Costa Romeiro and Maria 
> da Cunha on 24 May 1728 in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. João was born on 5 
> Dec 1704 in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. He died on 14 Jul 1744 in Matriz, 
> Vila Franca do Campo. 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *Second Generation*
>
>  
>
>   2.* Manuel da Costa Carvalho * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do 
> Campo. He died before 1728. He married Margarida da Costa on 25 May 1704 in 
> Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>
>  
>
> Casamento - CCA #144
>
>  
>
> Também documentado como Manuel da Costa Grosso no termo de casamento de 
> sua filha 
>
> Francisca da Costa.
>
>  
>
> Filhos de Manuel da Costa Carvalho e Margarida da Costa batizados na 
> Matriz de Vila Franca do 
>
> Campo:
>
> . José, n. 29.3.1705 - CCA #160. Filho de Manuel da Costa e Margarida da 
> Costa, moradores às 
>
> hortas. Pd: Pe. Gonçalo Martins, morador nesta vila.
>
> . Teresa, n. 16.12.1706 - CCA #202. Filha de Manuel da Costa e Margarida 
> da Costa, moradores às 
>
> hortas. Pd: Pe. Gonçalo Martins, freguês e natural desta paróquia.
>
> . Teresa (2.ª do nome), n. 15.1.1708- CCA #227. Filha de Manuel da Costa 
> Carvalho e Margarida 
>
> da Costa. Pd: Sebastião Lopes e sua mulher Joana de Lima, moradores nesta 
> vila. 
>
> . Teresa (3.ª do nome), n. 15.9.1709 - CCA #249. Filha de Manuel da Costa 
> e Margarida da Costa, 
>
> moradores às hortas e fregueses desta igreja Matriz de São Miguel e dela 
> naturais. Pd: Sebastião 
>
> de Arruda e sua irmã Luzia Carvalho, moradores nos Arrifes, freguesia de 
> São Mateus da cidade de 
>
> Ponta Delgada.
>
> . Francisca, n. 3.11.1710 - CCA #9. Filha de Manuel da Costa Carvalho e 
> Margarida da Costa. Pd: 
>
> Sebastião de Arruda, solteiro, natural da freguesia de São Mateus, Ponta 
> Delgada.
>
>  
>
> Obs.: Na Matriz de Vila Franca do Campo em 20.1.1708 - CCA #227, há o 
> batismo de Teresa filha de Manuel da Costa Carvalho e Margarida da Costa. 
> Pd: Sebastião Lopes e sua mulher Joana de Lima, fregueses desta Matriz. 
> (Termo de batismo repetido)
>
>  
>
>  
>
>   3.* Margarida da Costa * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *Third Generation*
>
>  
>
>   4.* Gaspar da Costa * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. He 
> died before 1704. He married Luzia Carvalho on 25 Feb 1670 in Matriz, Vila 
> Franca do Campo. 
>
>  
>
> Casamento - CCA #3
>
> Morador na Ribeira Seca, Vila Franca do Campo.
>
>  
>
>  
>
>   5.* Luzia Carvalho * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>
>  
>
>   6.* Manuel da Costa * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. He 
> died before 1704. He 
>
> married Catarina de Lima on 16 Oct 1681 in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>
>  
>
> Casamento - CCA #35
>
> Morador nas Hortas, Vila Franca do Campo.
>
>  
>
>  
>
>   7.* Catarina de Lima * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *Fourth Generation*
>
>  
>
>   8.* André Fernandes * was born on 8 Dec 1602 in Matriz, Ribeira 
> Grande. He married Beatriz da Costa on 19 Dec 1639 in Matriz, Vila Franca 
> do Campo. 
>
>  
>
> Batismo - CCA #231. Pd: Francisco Pires Paiva e Ana Pires.
>
> Casamento - CCA #139
>
>  
>
>  
>
>   9.* Beatriz da Costa * was born in Matriz, Ribeira Grande. 
>
>  
>
> 10.* Manuel Raposo * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. He 
> married Águeda Carvalho. 
>
>  
>
> 11.* Águeda Carvalho * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>
>  
>
> 12.* Antonio da Costa * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. He 
> died before 1681. He married Maria Fernandes. 
>
>  
>
> Antonio da Ponte - Morador na Matriz de Ponta Delgada, e possivelmente 
> natural de São Roque.
>
> Há na Matriz de Ponta Delgada o casamento de Antonio da Ponte e Maria de 
> Resendes em 27.6.
>
> 1645 - EC #56. Ele é filho de Antonio da Ponte e Maria da Costa, ambos 
> falecidos, de S. Roque.
>
> Idem, 29.5.1651 - CCA #61, casamento de João da Costa com Luzia Coelho. 
> Ele é filho de Antonio 
>
> da Ponte e Maria da Costa.
>
>  
>
>  
>
> 13.* Maria Fernandes * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>
>  
>
> Moradora na Matriz de Po

[AZORES-Genealogy] Help in translating the plaque at the Ermida of Praia da Vitoria (Terceira)

2016-07-21 Thread Cheri Mello
Can a someone translate this plaque that Jack (Perry) Matthews saw at the
ermida in Praia da Vitoria on Terceira? I can get the gist of it, but he
wants to put it in a book, so a better translation would be needed.

O Império dos Marítimos da freguesia de Santa Cruz, concelho da Praia da
Vitória, Terceira, fica situado no Largo José Silvestre Ribeiro, no local
onde foi outrora a Ermida de São Pedro Gonçalves, e a sua data de
construção remonta ao último quartel do século XIX, ao ano de 1877.

Esta irmandade celebra a festa em honra do Divino Espírito Santo no
denominado Domingo da Trindade.
O Império dos Marítimos contem imagens e tem a forma de uma capela. Devido
ao pequeno número de irmãos e às dificuldades vigentes, esta irmandade não
tem tido a possibilidade de realizar  atividades culturais durante a
semana. Porém, no Domingo da Trindade realiza-se o cortejo do Divino
Espírito Santo, acompanhado por uma filarmónica para a Igreja, onde é
celebrada missa de festa, no fim da qual se realizam as coroações. Neste
dia tiram-se os pelouros e é nomeada a comissão para o ano seguinte.

No âmbito da festa deste império, realiza-se, no sábado seguinte, uma
tourada à corda.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help in translating the plaque at the Ermida of Praia da Vitoria (Terceira)

2016-07-21 Thread Margaret Vicente
Cheri,

I'm on my way out and unable to translate it until tomorrow.  In any case,
heads up to anyone who may do so is that the "observation" regarding the
little chapel is indeed what they call it "o Imperio" it looks like a
chapel but it's not.  This is where they store the Crowns and Flags during
the year.  There are various "imperios" across the island bearing the name
of the respective brother/sisterhood.  This building is called "Imperio dos
Maritimos"  (Empire of the Seamen).

Cheers

On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Can a someone translate this plaque that Jack (Perry) Matthews saw at the
> ermida in Praia da Vitoria on Terceira? I can get the gist of it, but he
> wants to put it in a book, so a better translation would be needed.
> 
> O Império dos Marítimos da freguesia de Santa Cruz, concelho da Praia da
> Vitória, Terceira, fica situado no Largo José Silvestre Ribeiro, no local
> onde foi outrora a Ermida de São Pedro Gonçalves, e a sua data de
> construção remonta ao último quartel do século XIX, ao ano de 1877.
>
> Esta irmandade celebra a festa em honra do Divino Espírito Santo no
> denominado Domingo da Trindade.
> O Império dos Marítimos contem imagens e tem a forma de uma capela. Devido
> ao pequeno número de irmãos e às dificuldades vigentes, esta irmandade não
> tem tido a possibilidade de realizar  atividades culturais durante a
> semana. Porém, no Domingo da Trindade realiza-se o cortejo do Divino
> Espírito Santo, acompanhado por uma filarmónica para a Igreja, onde é
> celebrada missa de festa, no fim da qual se realizam as coroações. Neste
> dia tiram-se os pelouros e é nomeada a comissão para o ano seguinte.
>
> No âmbito da festa deste império, realiza-se, no sábado seguinte, uma
> tourada à corda.
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help in translating the plaque at the Ermida of Praia da Vitoria (Terceira)

2016-07-21 Thread Cheri Mello
OK, because I thought it said when it was built, that it was used for
Espirito Santo, and that they have the Tourada a Corda (bullfight on a
rope) the following Saturday. That's why I asked for someone else to
translate it. I can get the gist, but misunderstanding a couple of things.
Thanks!

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Margaret Vicente  wrote:

> Cheri,
>
> I'm on my way out and unable to translate it until tomorrow.  In any case,
> heads up to anyone who may do so is that the "observation" regarding the
> little chapel is indeed what they call it "o Imperio" it looks like a
> chapel but it's not.  This is where they store the Crowns and Flags during
> the year.  There are various "imperios" across the island bearing the name
> of the respective brother/sisterhood.  This building is called "Imperio dos
> Maritimos"  (Empire of the Seamen).
>
> Cheers
>
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> Can a someone translate this plaque that Jack (Perry) Matthews saw at the
>> ermida in Praia da Vitoria on Terceira? I can get the gist of it, but he
>> wants to put it in a book, so a better translation would be needed.
>> 
>> O Império dos Marítimos da freguesia de Santa Cruz, concelho da Praia da
>> Vitória, Terceira, fica situado no Largo José Silvestre Ribeiro, no local
>> onde foi outrora a Ermida de São Pedro Gonçalves, e a sua data de
>> construção remonta ao último quartel do século XIX, ao ano de 1877.
>>
>> Esta irmandade celebra a festa em honra do Divino Espírito Santo no
>> denominado Domingo da Trindade.
>> O Império dos Marítimos contem imagens e tem a forma de uma capela.
>> Devido ao pequeno número de irmãos e às dificuldades vigentes, esta
>> irmandade não tem tido a possibilidade de realizar  atividades culturais
>> durante a semana. Porém, no Domingo da Trindade realiza-se o cortejo do
>> Divino Espírito Santo, acompanhado por uma filarmónica para a Igreja, onde
>> é celebrada missa de festa, no fim da qual se realizam as coroações. Neste
>> dia tiram-se os pelouros e é nomeada a comissão para o ano seguinte.
>>
>> No âmbito da festa deste império, realiza-se, no sábado seguinte, uma
>> tourada à corda.
>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel da Costa Carvalho from Vila Franca do Campo - S. MIguel - Ancestry

2016-07-21 Thread JR
Thank you, Manuel!! 

It may surprise you to know that I did not know Vila Franca had marriage 
records in the mid 1650's. Because when I last checked years ago, all I saw 
were empty pages and assumed, rather foolishly, that the whole period had 
nothing in it. Then I saw your posts and noticed the mid 1600 dates, so now 
I am revisiting the whole period. Lots missing, but many are still in good 
shape.

I think there may still be conflict with Manuel da Costa Grosso, so I will 
recheck my records.

These marriages clearly indicate father as Manuel Costa Grosso and not 
Carvalho:

Francisca da Costa cc Joao da Costa (Romeiro), May 24- 1728
Joao da Costa cc Francisca de Pimentel, Feb 13- 1736
Miguel da Costa Raposo cc Ana de Andrade, Jan 1- 1755

JR





On Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 11:45:40 AM UTC-4, Júlio wrote:
>
> Obrigado. grande Ajuda.
>
> Tambem tinha o Gaspar Fernandes.
>
>
>
> quinta-feira, 21 de Julho de 2016 às 00:34:51 UTC, mances escreveu:
>>
>> John and Júlio,
>>
>> Here's what I have found so far about Manuel da Costa Carvalho and his 
>> wife Margarida da Costa. If you find any inaccurate information please let 
>> me know.
>> Gaspar Fernandes (16) in this line was already in my tree.
>>
>>
>> *Ahnentafel Chart for Francisca da Costa*
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *First Generation*
>>
>>  
>>
>>   1.* Francisca da Costa * was born on 3 Nov 1710 in Matriz, Vila 
>> Franca do Campo. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Batismo - CCA # #9. Filha de Manuel da Costa Carvalho e Margarida da 
>> Costa. Pd: Sebastião de 
>>
>> Arruda, solteiro, natural da freguesia de São Mateus, Ponta Delgada.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Do termo de seu casamento consta a alcunha de seu pai Manuel da Costa 
>> Grosso.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Francisca married *João da Costa * son of João da Costa Romeiro and 
>> Maria da Cunha on 24 May 1728 in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. João was 
>> born on 5 Dec 1704 in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. He died on 14 Jul 1744 
>> in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *Second Generation*
>>
>>  
>>
>>   2.* Manuel da Costa Carvalho * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do 
>> Campo. He died before 1728. He married Margarida da Costa on 25 May 1704 in 
>> Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Casamento - CCA #144
>>
>>  
>>
>> Também documentado como Manuel da Costa Grosso no termo de casamento de 
>> sua filha 
>>
>> Francisca da Costa.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Filhos de Manuel da Costa Carvalho e Margarida da Costa batizados na 
>> Matriz de Vila Franca do 
>>
>> Campo:
>>
>> . José, n. 29.3.1705 - CCA #160. Filho de Manuel da Costa e Margarida da 
>> Costa, moradores às 
>>
>> hortas. Pd: Pe. Gonçalo Martins, morador nesta vila.
>>
>> . Teresa, n. 16.12.1706 - CCA #202. Filha de Manuel da Costa e Margarida 
>> da Costa, moradores às 
>>
>> hortas. Pd: Pe. Gonçalo Martins, freguês e natural desta paróquia.
>>
>> . Teresa (2.ª do nome), n. 15.1.1708- CCA #227. Filha de Manuel da Costa 
>> Carvalho e Margarida 
>>
>> da Costa. Pd: Sebastião Lopes e sua mulher Joana de Lima, moradores nesta 
>> vila. 
>>
>> . Teresa (3.ª do nome), n. 15.9.1709 - CCA #249. Filha de Manuel da Costa 
>> e Margarida da Costa, 
>>
>> moradores às hortas e fregueses desta igreja Matriz de São Miguel e dela 
>> naturais. Pd: Sebastião 
>>
>> de Arruda e sua irmã Luzia Carvalho, moradores nos Arrifes, freguesia de 
>> São Mateus da cidade de 
>>
>> Ponta Delgada.
>>
>> . Francisca, n. 3.11.1710 - CCA #9. Filha de Manuel da Costa Carvalho e 
>> Margarida da Costa. Pd: 
>>
>> Sebastião de Arruda, solteiro, natural da freguesia de São Mateus, Ponta 
>> Delgada.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Obs.: Na Matriz de Vila Franca do Campo em 20.1.1708 - CCA #227, há o 
>> batismo de Teresa filha de Manuel da Costa Carvalho e Margarida da Costa. 
>> Pd: Sebastião Lopes e sua mulher Joana de Lima, fregueses desta Matriz. 
>> (Termo de batismo repetido)
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>   3.* Margarida da Costa * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *Third Generation*
>>
>>  
>>
>>   4.* Gaspar da Costa * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. He 
>> died before 1704. He married Luzia Carvalho on 25 Feb 1670 in Matriz, Vila 
>> Franca do Campo. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Casamento - CCA #3
>>
>> Morador na Ribeira Seca, Vila Franca do Campo.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>   5.* Luzia Carvalho * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>>
>>  
>>
>>   6.* Manuel da Costa * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. He 
>> died before 1704. He 
>>
>> married Catarina de Lima on 16 Oct 1681 in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Casamento - CCA #35
>>
>> Morador nas Hortas, Vila Franca do Campo.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>   7.* Catarina de Lima * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *Fourth Generation*
>>
>>  
>>
>>   8.* André Fernandes * was born on 8 Dec 1602 in Matriz, Ribeira 
>> Grande. He married Beatriz da Costa on 19 Dec 1639 in Matriz, Vila 
>> Franca do Campo. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Batismo - CCA #231. Pd: Francisco 

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] http://tombo.pt down again

2016-07-21 Thread 'Sam Koester' via Azores Genealogy
Jack;  I’m not Cheri but; thought you’d be interested to know that google 
translate does a very good job of translating the paragraph you have below.  
Sam in Camas, WA

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel da Costa Carvalho from Vila Franca do Campo - S. MIguel - Ancestry

2016-07-21 Thread mances
Mais casamentos - Matriz de Vila Franca do Campo:

Antonio da Costa x Maria Fernandes - dez 1654 - CCA #193

Manuel Fernandes x Clara da Fonseca - 4 dez 1630 - CCA #109

Diogo Fernandes x Beatriz [Ribeiro] - 22 out 1617 - CCA #74

Manoel

Em quinta-feira, 21 de julho de 2016 12:45:40 UTC-3, Júlio escreveu:
>
> Obrigado. grande Ajuda.
>
> Tambem tinha o Gaspar Fernandes.
>
>
>
> quinta-feira, 21 de Julho de 2016 às 00:34:51 UTC, mances escreveu:
>>
>> John and Júlio,
>>
>> Here's what I have found so far about Manuel da Costa Carvalho and his 
>> wife Margarida da Costa. If you find any inaccurate information please let 
>> me know.
>> Gaspar Fernandes (16) in this line was already in my tree.
>>
>>
>> *Ahnentafel Chart for Francisca da Costa*
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *First Generation*
>>
>>  
>>
>>   1.* Francisca da Costa * was born on 3 Nov 1710 in Matriz, Vila 
>> Franca do Campo. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Batismo - CCA # #9. Filha de Manuel da Costa Carvalho e Margarida da 
>> Costa. Pd: Sebastião de 
>>
>> Arruda, solteiro, natural da freguesia de São Mateus, Ponta Delgada.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Do termo de seu casamento consta a alcunha de seu pai Manuel da Costa 
>> Grosso.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Francisca married *João da Costa * son of João da Costa Romeiro and 
>> Maria da Cunha on 24 May 1728 in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. João was 
>> born on 5 Dec 1704 in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. He died on 14 Jul 1744 
>> in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *Second Generation*
>>
>>  
>>
>>   2.* Manuel da Costa Carvalho * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do 
>> Campo. He died before 1728. He married Margarida da Costa on 25 May 1704 in 
>> Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Casamento - CCA #144
>>
>>  
>>
>> Também documentado como Manuel da Costa Grosso no termo de casamento de 
>> sua filha 
>>
>> Francisca da Costa.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Filhos de Manuel da Costa Carvalho e Margarida da Costa batizados na 
>> Matriz de Vila Franca do 
>>
>> Campo:
>>
>> . José, n. 29.3.1705 - CCA #160. Filho de Manuel da Costa e Margarida da 
>> Costa, moradores às 
>>
>> hortas. Pd: Pe. Gonçalo Martins, morador nesta vila.
>>
>> . Teresa, n. 16.12.1706 - CCA #202. Filha de Manuel da Costa e Margarida 
>> da Costa, moradores às 
>>
>> hortas. Pd: Pe. Gonçalo Martins, freguês e natural desta paróquia.
>>
>> . Teresa (2.ª do nome), n. 15.1.1708- CCA #227. Filha de Manuel da Costa 
>> Carvalho e Margarida 
>>
>> da Costa. Pd: Sebastião Lopes e sua mulher Joana de Lima, moradores nesta 
>> vila. 
>>
>> . Teresa (3.ª do nome), n. 15.9.1709 - CCA #249. Filha de Manuel da Costa 
>> e Margarida da Costa, 
>>
>> moradores às hortas e fregueses desta igreja Matriz de São Miguel e dela 
>> naturais. Pd: Sebastião 
>>
>> de Arruda e sua irmã Luzia Carvalho, moradores nos Arrifes, freguesia de 
>> São Mateus da cidade de 
>>
>> Ponta Delgada.
>>
>> . Francisca, n. 3.11.1710 - CCA #9. Filha de Manuel da Costa Carvalho e 
>> Margarida da Costa. Pd: 
>>
>> Sebastião de Arruda, solteiro, natural da freguesia de São Mateus, Ponta 
>> Delgada.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Obs.: Na Matriz de Vila Franca do Campo em 20.1.1708 - CCA #227, há o 
>> batismo de Teresa filha de Manuel da Costa Carvalho e Margarida da Costa. 
>> Pd: Sebastião Lopes e sua mulher Joana de Lima, fregueses desta Matriz. 
>> (Termo de batismo repetido)
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>   3.* Margarida da Costa * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *Third Generation*
>>
>>  
>>
>>   4.* Gaspar da Costa * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. He 
>> died before 1704. He married Luzia Carvalho on 25 Feb 1670 in Matriz, Vila 
>> Franca do Campo. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Casamento - CCA #3
>>
>> Morador na Ribeira Seca, Vila Franca do Campo.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>   5.* Luzia Carvalho * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>>
>>  
>>
>>   6.* Manuel da Costa * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. He 
>> died before 1704. He 
>>
>> married Catarina de Lima on 16 Oct 1681 in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Casamento - CCA #35
>>
>> Morador nas Hortas, Vila Franca do Campo.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>   7.* Catarina de Lima * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *Fourth Generation*
>>
>>  
>>
>>   8.* André Fernandes * was born on 8 Dec 1602 in Matriz, Ribeira 
>> Grande. He married Beatriz da Costa on 19 Dec 1639 in Matriz, Vila 
>> Franca do Campo. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Batismo - CCA #231. Pd: Francisco Pires Paiva e Ana Pires.
>>
>> Casamento - CCA #139
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>   9.* Beatriz da Costa * was born in Matriz, Ribeira Grande. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> 10.* Manuel Raposo * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. He 
>> married Águeda Carvalho. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> 11.* Águeda Carvalho * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> 12.* Antonio da Costa * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. He 
>> died before 1681. He married Maria Fernandes. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Antonio da Ponte - Morador na

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel da Costa Carvalho from Vila Franca do Campo - S. MIguel - Ancestry

2016-07-21 Thread mances
John,

Grosso is an alcunha meaning, fat, strong.

The surname Raposo in Miguel da Costa [Raposo] (m. to Ana de Andrade) is a 
good clue. Luzia Carvalho, the mother of Manuel da Costa Carvalho, was the 
daughter of Manuel Raposo.

Manoel

Em quinta-feira, 21 de julho de 2016 13:30:42 UTC-3, JR escreveu:
>
> Thank you, Manuel!! 
>
> It may surprise you to know that I did not know Vila Franca had marriage 
> records in the mid 1650's. Because when I last checked years ago, all I saw 
> were empty pages and assumed, rather foolishly, that the whole period had 
> nothing in it. Then I saw your posts and noticed the mid 1600 dates, so now 
> I am revisiting the whole period. Lots missing, but many are still in good 
> shape.
>
> I think there may still be conflict with Manuel da Costa Grosso, so I will 
> recheck my records.
>
> These marriages clearly indicate father as Manuel Costa Grosso and not 
> Carvalho:
>
> Francisca da Costa cc Joao da Costa (Romeiro), May 24- 1728
> Joao da Costa cc Francisca de Pimentel, Feb 13- 1736
> Miguel da Costa Raposo cc Ana de Andrade, Jan 1- 1755
>
> JR
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel da Costa Carvalho from Vila Franca do Campo - S. MIguel - Ancestry

2016-07-21 Thread JR
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1640-1669/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1640-1669_item1/P37.html

VFSM bap- Luzia, May 21- 1644, filha de Mel Rapozo e Agada Carvalha, Pad- 
Gpar. Pco? fo. de Bart? da Seca (Afonseca?)  e Izabel Pca. fa. de Mel Pco. 
todos desta freg.

VFSM bap-, Catharina, bap- March 19- 1659, filha de Matheus Jorge e de Anna 
Ribeira, Pad- Joao Gonsalves aventureiro e Catharina da Costa...

JR

On Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 1:10:28 PM UTC-4, mances wrote:
>
> Mais casamentos - Matriz de Vila Franca do Campo:
>
> Antonio da Costa x Maria Fernandes - dez 1654 - CCA #193
>
> Manuel Fernandes x Clara da Fonseca - 4 dez 1630 - CCA #109
>
> Diogo Fernandes x Beatriz [Ribeiro] - 22 out 1617 - CCA #74
>
> Manoel
>
> Em quinta-feira, 21 de julho de 2016 12:45:40 UTC-3, Júlio escreveu:
>>
>> Obrigado. grande Ajuda.
>>
>> Tambem tinha o Gaspar Fernandes.
>>
>>
>>
>> quinta-feira, 21 de Julho de 2016 às 00:34:51 UTC, mances escreveu:
>>>
>>> John and Júlio,
>>>
>>> Here's what I have found so far about Manuel da Costa Carvalho and his 
>>> wife Margarida da Costa. If you find any inaccurate information please let 
>>> me know.
>>> Gaspar Fernandes (16) in this line was already in my tree.
>>>
>>>
>>> *Ahnentafel Chart for Francisca da Costa*
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *First Generation*
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>   1.* Francisca da Costa * was born on 3 Nov 1710 in Matriz, Vila 
>>> Franca do Campo. 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Batismo - CCA # #9. Filha de Manuel da Costa Carvalho e Margarida da 
>>> Costa. Pd: Sebastião de 
>>>
>>> Arruda, solteiro, natural da freguesia de São Mateus, Ponta Delgada.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Do termo de seu casamento consta a alcunha de seu pai Manuel da Costa 
>>> Grosso.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Francisca married *João da Costa * son of João da Costa Romeiro and 
>>> Maria da Cunha on 24 May 1728 in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. João was 
>>> born on 5 Dec 1704 in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. He died on 14 Jul 1744 
>>> in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *Second Generation*
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>   2.* Manuel da Costa Carvalho * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do 
>>> Campo. He died before 1728. He married Margarida da Costa on 25 May 1704 in 
>>> Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Casamento - CCA #144
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Também documentado como Manuel da Costa Grosso no termo de casamento de 
>>> sua filha 
>>>
>>> Francisca da Costa.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Filhos de Manuel da Costa Carvalho e Margarida da Costa batizados na 
>>> Matriz de Vila Franca do 
>>>
>>> Campo:
>>>
>>> . José, n. 29.3.1705 - CCA #160. Filho de Manuel da Costa e Margarida da 
>>> Costa, moradores às 
>>>
>>> hortas. Pd: Pe. Gonçalo Martins, morador nesta vila.
>>>
>>> . Teresa, n. 16.12.1706 - CCA #202. Filha de Manuel da Costa e Margarida 
>>> da Costa, moradores às 
>>>
>>> hortas. Pd: Pe. Gonçalo Martins, freguês e natural desta paróquia.
>>>
>>> . Teresa (2.ª do nome), n. 15.1.1708- CCA #227. Filha de Manuel da Costa 
>>> Carvalho e Margarida 
>>>
>>> da Costa. Pd: Sebastião Lopes e sua mulher Joana de Lima, moradores 
>>> nesta vila. 
>>>
>>> . Teresa (3.ª do nome), n. 15.9.1709 - CCA #249. Filha de Manuel da 
>>> Costa e Margarida da Costa, 
>>>
>>> moradores às hortas e fregueses desta igreja Matriz de São Miguel e dela 
>>> naturais. Pd: Sebastião 
>>>
>>> de Arruda e sua irmã Luzia Carvalho, moradores nos Arrifes, freguesia de 
>>> São Mateus da cidade de 
>>>
>>> Ponta Delgada.
>>>
>>> . Francisca, n. 3.11.1710 - CCA #9. Filha de Manuel da Costa Carvalho e 
>>> Margarida da Costa. Pd: 
>>>
>>> Sebastião de Arruda, solteiro, natural da freguesia de São Mateus, Ponta 
>>> Delgada.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Obs.: Na Matriz de Vila Franca do Campo em 20.1.1708 - CCA #227, há o 
>>> batismo de Teresa filha de Manuel da Costa Carvalho e Margarida da Costa. 
>>> Pd: Sebastião Lopes e sua mulher Joana de Lima, fregueses desta Matriz. 
>>> (Termo de batismo repetido)
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>   3.* Margarida da Costa * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do 
>>> Campo. 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *Third Generation*
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>   4.* Gaspar da Costa * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>>> He died before 1704. He married Luzia Carvalho on 25 Feb 1670 in Matriz, 
>>> Vila Franca do Campo. 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Casamento - CCA #3
>>>
>>> Morador na Ribeira Seca, Vila Franca do Campo.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>   5.* Luzia Carvalho * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>   6.* Manuel da Costa * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>>> He died before 1704. He 
>>>
>>> married Catarina de Lima on 16 Oct 1681 in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Casamento - CCA #35
>>>
>>> Morador nas Hortas, Vila Franca do Campo.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>   7.* Catarina de Lima * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *Fourth Generation*
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>   8.* André Fernand

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel da Costa Carvalho from Vila Franca do Campo - S. MIguel - Ancestry

2016-07-21 Thread JR
I agree, was just looking where the Raposo came from. Only one child found 
for Manuel Raposo and Agueda Carvalho

JR

On Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 1:39:32 PM UTC-4, mances wrote:
>
> John,
>
> Grosso is an alcunha meaning, fat, strong.
>
> The surname Raposo in Miguel da Costa [Raposo] (m. to Ana de Andrade) is a 
> good clue. Luzia Carvalho, the mother of Manuel da Costa Carvalho, was the 
> daughter of Manuel Raposo.
>
> Manoel
>
> Em quinta-feira, 21 de julho de 2016 13:30:42 UTC-3, JR escreveu:
>>
>> Thank you, Manuel!! 
>>
>> It may surprise you to know that I did not know Vila Franca had marriage 
>> records in the mid 1650's. Because when I last checked years ago, all I saw 
>> were empty pages and assumed, rather foolishly, that the whole period had 
>> nothing in it. Then I saw your posts and noticed the mid 1600 dates, so now 
>> I am revisiting the whole period. Lots missing, but many are still in good 
>> shape.
>>
>> I think there may still be conflict with Manuel da Costa Grosso, so I 
>> will recheck my records.
>>
>> These marriages clearly indicate father as Manuel Costa Grosso and not 
>> Carvalho:
>>
>> Francisca da Costa cc Joao da Costa (Romeiro), May 24- 1728
>> Joao da Costa cc Francisca de Pimentel, Feb 13- 1736
>> Miguel da Costa Raposo cc Ana de Andrade, Jan 1- 1755
>>
>> JR
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help in translating the plaque at the Ermida of Praia da Vitoria (Terceira)

2016-07-21 Thread 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy
"The "Império" of the the seafarers of the Parish of Santa Cruz, concelho of 
Praia da Vitória, Terceira, is located in the Largo José Silvestre Ribeiro, 
where there once stood the Chapel of São Pedro Gonçalves, and the date of its 
construction goes back to the last quarter of the 19th century, to the year 
1877.
This brotherhood celebrates the feast in honor of the Holy Spirit on the so 
called Trinity Sunday. 

The "Império dos Marítimos" contains statues and is in the form of a chapel. 
Due to the small number of members and the existing difficulties, this 
brotherhood does not have the means to provide for the cultural activities 
during the festival week. Bur, on Trinity Sunday, there is the procession of 
the Holy Spirit, with a band, down to the church, where the feast day Mass is 
celebrated, at the end of which there are the coronations. On this day the 
drawings are held and next year's festival commission is named.
As part of the festivities of this "imperio" on the following Saturday there is 
the roped bullfights."
Without my trusty dictionaries handy, this is the best I could do.
John Miranda Raposo

 

On Thursday, July 21, 2016 12:26 PM, Cheri Mello  
wrote:
 

 OK, because I thought it said when it was built, that it was used for Espirito 
Santo, and that they have the Tourada a Corda (bullfight on a rope) the 
following Saturday. That's why I asked for someone else to translate it. I can 
get the gist, but misunderstanding a couple of things.  Thanks!

Cheri Mello
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Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada
On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Margaret Vicente  
wrote:

Cheri, 
I'm on my way out and unable to translate it until tomorrow.  In any case, 
heads up to anyone who may do so is that the "observation" regarding the little 
chapel is indeed what they call it "o Imperio" it looks like a chapel but it's 
not.  This is where they store the Crowns and Flags during the year.  There are 
various "imperios" across the island bearing the name of the respective 
brother/sisterhood.  This building is called "Imperio dos Maritimos"  (Empire 
of the Seamen).
Cheers
On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

Can a someone translate this plaque that Jack (Perry) Matthews saw at the 
ermida in Praia da Vitoria on Terceira? I can get the gist of it, but he wants 
to put it in a book, so a better translation would be needed.

O Império dos Marítimos da freguesia de Santa Cruz, concelho da Praia da 
Vitória, Terceira, fica situado no Largo José Silvestre Ribeiro, no local onde 
foi outrora a Ermida de São Pedro Gonçalves, e a sua data de construção remonta 
ao último quartel do século XIX, ao ano de 1877.
Esta irmandade celebra a festa em honra do Divino Espírito Santo no denominado 
Domingo da Trindade.O Império dos Marítimos contem imagens e tem a forma de uma 
capela. Devido ao pequeno número de irmãos e às dificuldades vigentes, esta 
irmandade não tem tido a possibilidade de realizar  atividades culturais 
durante a semana. Porém, no Domingo da Trindade realiza-se o cortejo do Divino 
Espírito Santo, acompanhado por uma filarmónica para a Igreja, onde é celebrada 
missa de festa, no fim da qual se realizam as coroações. Neste dia tiram-se os 
pelouros e é nomeada a comissão para o ano seguinte.
No âmbito da festa deste império, realiza-se, no sábado seguinte, uma tourada à 
corda.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Religious Festivals in Azores

2016-07-21 Thread "E" Sharp
We are planning another trip to Azores next year and I was wondering about
the different festivals on the different islands and found this site and
thought I would share.

http://www.azoresweb.com/festivals_azores.html

"E"

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CORVO is on Universidade do Minho/NEPS

2016-07-21 Thread João Ventura
Eliseu,

Amazing news! How did you find out about it?

João Ventura
tombo.pt

On Thursday, 21 July 2016 14:34:41 UTC+1, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote:
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> HI!
>
> The Genealogy of Corvo Island is made available for everyone  by Norberta 
> Amorim of Pico. Go to NEPS and enjoy! (
> http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/genealogias.html)
>
>  
>
> Muito Obrigado,
>
> *Eliseu Pacheco da Silva, “sharing is the best way of growth… so stay 
> gold!”*
>
> *Azores (S. Miguel, Graciosa, Faial); Mainland (Alentejo)*
>
> (http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel?lang=en)
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CORVO is on Universidade do Minho/NEPS

2016-07-21 Thread 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy
Thank you so much, Eliseu!
John Miranda Raposo
 

On Thursday, July 21, 2016 10:47 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
 wrote:
 

 Eliseu, I don't have anyone from the Island of Corvo but it is another great 
resource! Thank you for advising all of us of it's availability! 
Rosemarie rcapodc@gmail.comResearching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and 
Pico, Azores,Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 6:34 AM, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva 
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HI!The Genealogy of Corvo Island is made available for everyone  by Norberta 
Amorim of Pico. Go to NEPS and enjoy! 
(http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/genealogias.html) Muito Obrigado,Eliseu Pacheco 
da Silva, “sharing is the best way of growth… so stay gold!”Azores (S. Miguel, 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] ftDNA pet peeve

2016-07-21 Thread Tish M
The last few times I've gone on ftDNA and have found new "cousins" with
Ancestor Trees available, I have been irritated. When you click on their
tree you find only their name... with no tree at all! I don't even consider
it a seed.
If you are one of these people, do us all a favor, eliminate your "tree".

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] ftDNA pet peeve

2016-07-21 Thread doreencaetano
I too utilize the posted tree to find relatives. I manage several relatives 
profiles and occasionally check it on all my profiles to see if I can find 
connections to the matches. It is make it more difficult to open a tree to find 
it has one name or just their name and their parents. To help me keep track of 
those matches I type no tree in the note section. A note with no known 
relationship most likely means that they have no tree or I have already emailed 
them and was unable to find the connection. A note and a known relationship 
means the note will have how we are related and in some case that can be many 
different distance way only making us distant cousin but many time over so the 
relationship calculator think we are closer related. I hope this helps. Maybe 
someone has a better way of organizing the search efforts? If so please share 
your methods.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] ftDNA pet peeve

2016-07-21 Thread Seekgene via Azores Genealogy
Yes!  I've noticed this lately, too!  It is very  annoying!
 
 
In a message dated 7/21/2016 2:13:33 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
doreencaet...@gmail.com writes:

 
I too utilize the posted tree to find relatives. I manage  several 
relatives profiles and occasionally check it on all my profiles to see  if I 
can 
find connections to the matches. It is make it more difficult to open  a tree 
to find it has one name or just their name and their parents. To help  me 
keep track of those matches I type no tree in the note section. A note with  no 
known relationship most likely means that they have no tree or I have  
already emailed them and was unable to find the connection. A note and a known  
relationship means the note will have how we are related and in some case 
that  can be many different distance way only making us distant cousin but 
many time  over so the relationship calculator think we are closer related. I 
hope this  helps. Maybe someone has a better way of organizing the search 
efforts? If so  please share your methods. 
Sent from _Mail_ (https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986)  for 
Windows  10 
 
From:  _Tish M_ (mailto:tish.me...@gmail.com) 
Sent: Thursday, July  21, 2016 1:53 PM
To: _azores@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:Azores@googlegroups.com) 
Subject:  [AZORES-Genealogy] ftDNA pet peeve
 
 
The  last few times I've gone on ftDNA and have found new "cousins" with 
Ancestor  Trees available, I have been irritated. When you click on their tree 
you find  only their name... with no tree at all! I don't even consider it 
a  seed.
 
If  you are one of these people, do us all a favor, eliminate your  "tree".
 

 
Tish  Meals
 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CORVO is on Universidade do Minho/NEPS

2016-07-21 Thread Eliseu Pacheco da Silva
No jornal!

:)

 

 

De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de João 
Ventura
Enviada: 21 de julho de 2016 19:49
Para: Azores Genealogy 
Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CORVO is on Universidade do Minho/NEPS

 

Eliseu,

 

Amazing news! How did you find out about it?

 

João Ventura

tombo.pt

On Thursday, 21 July 2016 14:34:41 UTC+1, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote:

HI!

The Genealogy of Corvo Island is made available for everyone  by Norberta 
Amorim of Pico. Go to NEPS and enjoy! 
(http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/genealogias.html)

 

Muito Obrigado,

Eliseu Pacheco da Silva, “sharing is the best way of growth… so stay gold!”

Azores (S. Miguel, Graciosa, Faial); Mainland (Alentejo)

(http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel?lang=en)

 

 

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] ftDNA pet peeve

2016-07-21 Thread Eliseu Pacheco da Silva
I second you Tish :)

 

De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de Tish M
Enviada: 21 de julho de 2016 20:53
Para: azores@googlegroups.com
Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] ftDNA pet peeve

 

The last few times I've gone on ftDNA and have found new "cousins" with 
Ancestor Trees available, I have been irritated. When you click on their tree 
you find only their name... with no tree at all! I don't even consider it a 
seed.

If you are one of these people, do us all a favor, eliminate your "tree".

 

Tish Meals

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] ftDNA pet peeve

2016-07-21 Thread Seekgene via Azores Genealogy
Annoying, isn't it!
 
 
 
In a message dated 7/21/2016 2:21:34 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
eliseuman...@gmail.com writes:

 
I  second you Tish J 
De:  azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de  
Tish M
Enviada: 21 de julho de 2016 20:53
Para:  azores@googlegroups.com
Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] ftDNA pet  peeve 
 
 
The last few times  I've gone on ftDNA and have found new "cousins" with 
Ancestor Trees available,  I have been irritated. When you click on their tree 
you find only their  name... with no tree at all! I don't even consider it 
a  seed.
 
If you are one of  these people, do us all a favor, eliminate your  "tree".
 

 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] ftDNA pet peeve

2016-07-21 Thread Tish M
Good idea Doreen. In the past I have only used the notes to denote an email
sent. I will now "flag" those who have no real tree online.
Tish

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> Yes!  I've noticed this lately, too!  It is very annoying!
>
> In a message dated 7/21/2016 2:13:33 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> doreencaet...@gmail.com writes:
>
> I too utilize the posted tree to find relatives. I manage several
> relatives profiles and occasionally check it on all my profiles to see if I
> can find connections to the matches. It is make it more difficult to open a
> tree to find it has one name or just their name and their parents. To help
> me keep track of those matches I type no tree in the note section. A note
> with no known relationship most likely means that they have no tree or I
> have already emailed them and was unable to find the connection. A note and
> a known relationship means the note will have how we are related and in
> some case that can be many different distance way only making us distant
> cousin but many time over so the relationship calculator think we are
> closer related. I hope this helps. Maybe someone has a better way of
> organizing the search efforts? If so please share your methods.
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail  for
> Windows 10
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>
>
> *From: *Tish M 
> *Sent: *Thursday, July 21, 2016 1:53 PM
> *To: *azores@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject: *[AZORES-Genealogy] ftDNA pet peeve
>
>
>
> The last few times I've gone on ftDNA and have found new "cousins" with
> Ancestor Trees available, I have been irritated. When you click on their
> tree you find only their name... with no tree at all! I don't even consider
> it a seed.
>
> If you are one of these people, do us all a favor, eliminate your "tree".
>
>
>
> Tish Meals
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] ftDNA pet peeve

2016-07-21 Thread Cheri Mello
Well, that's not a Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) issue, it's the person who
tested who has not uploaded their tree.

Here is an excerpt of the Welcome Letter that goes out when someone joins
the Azores DNA project:
===

Welcome to the Azores Islands DNA Project!  We are glad you have decided to
join us!
Blah blah blah...

Some things to do while you send in your DNA and wait for your results to
come in:

   - See how a DNA sample is collected: http://davedorsey.com/dna.html


   - Get your Gedcom in order.  If you use diacritics (non-English
   letters), you’ll need to make sure you save them with ANSEL encoding for
   uploading to the DNA web sites.If you don’t know what a Gedcom is or
   don’t have a genealogy software program, please let us know. We have simple
   directions with pictures for creating Gedcoms from the most popular
   genealogy programs or we can create a Gedcom for you.

(Well, except it's not in red in the letter. And since they have "upgraded"
things, I'm not sure if it's ANSEL or if they want ANSI. I'm pretty sure
UTF-8 coding doesn't work).

Note: They get this email only if the join a project. If they are not part
of the Azores DNA project, they may not know. Please let them know there is
an Azores DNA project that they can join.

All you can do is ask them to upload their Gedcom so you can see their
tree. If they don't know what a Gedcom is or need help, send them over to
me or Rick. I think Nancy Jean is gone on vacation right now.
Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Religious Festivals in Azores

2016-07-21 Thread Cheri Mello
It's a start. Almost every freguesia has a festa in honor of their patron
saint at some point during the summer. Those smaller festas are not
mentioned in the article. So be on the lookout for those too!

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel da Costa Carvalho from Vila Franca do Campo - S. MIguel - Ancestry

2016-07-21 Thread mances
John,

I think the godparent is Gaspar Pacheco filho de Bento da Fonseca.
Bento da Fonseca [de Arruda] married Bárbara Correia Raposo. He is in the 
RR's book, chapter 4, §12, N. 3

I didn´t find yet the marriage of Manuel Raposo and Luzia Carvalho in MVFC 
and I think it's possible that we can link them to RR's book.

Sebastião de Arruda and his sister Luzia Carvalho, residents of Arrifes, 
freguesia of São Mateus de Ponta Delgada, appear as Teresa's godparents. 
Teresa, the daughter of Manuel da Costa [Carvalho] and Margarida da Costa, 
was born in MVFC on 15 sept 1709 - CCA #249.

In the baptism of Francisca on 3 nov 1710 - CCA #9 the godparent is 
Sebastião de Arruda, single, native of the freguesia de São Mateus, Ponta 
Delgada.

Manoel

Em quinta-feira, 21 de julho de 2016 14:44:56 UTC-3, JR escreveu:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1640-1669/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1640-1669_item1/P37.html
>
> VFSM bap- Luzia, May 21- 1644, filha de Mel Rapozo e Agada Carvalha, Pad- 
> Gpar. Pco? fo. de Bart? da Seca (Afonseca?)  e Izabel Pca. fa. de Mel Pco. 
> todos desta freg.
>
> VFSM bap-, Catharina, bap- March 19- 1659, filha de Matheus Jorge e de 
> Anna Ribeira, Pad- Joao Gonsalves aventureiro e Catharina da Costa...
>
> JR
>
> On Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 1:10:28 PM UTC-4, mances wrote:
>>
>> Mais casamentos - Matriz de Vila Franca do Campo:
>>
>> Antonio da Costa x Maria Fernandes - dez 1654 - CCA #193
>>
>> Manuel Fernandes x Clara da Fonseca - 4 dez 1630 - CCA #109
>>
>> Diogo Fernandes x Beatriz [Ribeiro] - 22 out 1617 - CCA #74
>>
>> Manoel
>>
>>
>>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel da Costa Carvalho from Vila Franca do Campo - S. MIguel - Ancestry

2016-07-21 Thread JR
This is sister of Luzia Carvalho, Maria Carvalho:

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705_item1/P3.html

VFSM casamentos- March 22- 1670, Manoel Correa Tracunas sic viuvo? com 
Maria Cravalha fa. de Mel Rapozo e de Agada sic Carvalha, Test- Mel 
Curvello e Anto Roiz Geral

JR

On Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 7:11:25 PM UTC-4, mances wrote:
>
> John,
>
> I think the godparent is Gaspar Pacheco filho de Bento da Fonseca.
> Bento da Fonseca [de Arruda] married Bárbara Correia Raposo. He is in the 
> RR's book, chapter 4, §12, N. 3
>
> I didn´t find yet the marriage of Manuel Raposo and Luzia Carvalho in MVFC 
> and I think it's possible that we can link them to RR's book.
>
> Sebastião de Arruda and his sister Luzia Carvalho, residents of Arrifes, 
> freguesia of São Mateus de Ponta Delgada, appear as Teresa's godparents. 
> Teresa, the daughter of Manuel da Costa [Carvalho] and Margarida da Costa, 
> was born in MVFC on 15 sept 1709 - CCA #249.
>
> In the baptism of Francisca on 3 nov 1710 - CCA #9 the godparent is 
> Sebastião de Arruda, single, native of the freguesia de São Mateus, Ponta 
> Delgada.
>
> Manoel
>
> Em quinta-feira, 21 de julho de 2016 14:44:56 UTC-3, JR escreveu:
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1640-1669/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1640-1669_item1/P37.html
>>
>> VFSM bap- Luzia, May 21- 1644, filha de Mel Rapozo e Agada Carvalha, Pad- 
>> Gpar. Pco? fo. de Bart? da Seca (Afonseca?)  e Izabel Pca. fa. de Mel Pco. 
>> todos desta freg.
>>
>> VFSM bap-, Catharina, bap- March 19- 1659, filha de Matheus Jorge e de 
>> Anna Ribeira, Pad- Joao Gonsalves aventureiro e Catharina da Costa...
>>
>> JR
>>
>> On Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 1:10:28 PM UTC-4, mances wrote:
>>>
>>> Mais casamentos - Matriz de Vila Franca do Campo:
>>>
>>> Antonio da Costa x Maria Fernandes - dez 1654 - CCA #193
>>>
>>> Manuel Fernandes x Clara da Fonseca - 4 dez 1630 - CCA #109
>>>
>>> Diogo Fernandes x Beatriz [Ribeiro] - 22 out 1617 - CCA #74
>>>
>>> Manoel
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel da Costa Carvalho from Vila Franca do Campo - S. MIguel - Ancestry

2016-07-21 Thread JR
This is sister of Luzia Carvalho, Maria Carvalho:

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705_item1/P3.html

VFSM casamentos- March 22- 1670, Manoel Correa Tracunas sic viuvo? com 
Maria Cravalha fa. de Mel Rapozo e de Agada sic Carvalha, Test- Mel 
Curvello e Anto Roiz Geral

JR

On Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 7:11:25 PM UTC-4, mances wrote:
>
> John,
>
> I think the godparent is Gaspar Pacheco filho de Bento da Fonseca.
> Bento da Fonseca [de Arruda] married Bárbara Correia Raposo. He is in the 
> RR's book, chapter 4, §12, N. 3
>
> I didn´t find yet the marriage of Manuel Raposo and Luzia Carvalho in MVFC 
> and I think it's possible that we can link them to RR's book.
>
> Sebastião de Arruda and his sister Luzia Carvalho, residents of Arrifes, 
> freguesia of São Mateus de Ponta Delgada, appear as Teresa's godparents. 
> Teresa, the daughter of Manuel da Costa [Carvalho] and Margarida da Costa, 
> was born in MVFC on 15 sept 1709 - CCA #249.
>
> In the baptism of Francisca on 3 nov 1710 - CCA #9 the godparent is 
> Sebastião de Arruda, single, native of the freguesia de São Mateus, Ponta 
> Delgada.
>
> Manoel
>
> Em quinta-feira, 21 de julho de 2016 14:44:56 UTC-3, JR escreveu:
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1640-1669/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1640-1669_item1/P37.html
>>
>> VFSM bap- Luzia, May 21- 1644, filha de Mel Rapozo e Agada Carvalha, Pad- 
>> Gpar. Pco? fo. de Bart? da Seca (Afonseca?)  e Izabel Pca. fa. de Mel Pco. 
>> todos desta freg.
>>
>> VFSM bap-, Catharina, bap- March 19- 1659, filha de Matheus Jorge e de 
>> Anna Ribeira, Pad- Joao Gonsalves aventureiro e Catharina da Costa...
>>
>> JR
>>
>> On Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 1:10:28 PM UTC-4, mances wrote:
>>>
>>> Mais casamentos - Matriz de Vila Franca do Campo:
>>>
>>> Antonio da Costa x Maria Fernandes - dez 1654 - CCA #193
>>>
>>> Manuel Fernandes x Clara da Fonseca - 4 dez 1630 - CCA #109
>>>
>>> Diogo Fernandes x Beatriz [Ribeiro] - 22 out 1617 - CCA #74
>>>
>>> Manoel
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel da Costa Carvalho from Vila Franca do Campo - S. MIguel - Ancestry

2016-07-21 Thread mances
I found the marriage of Manuel Raposo and Águeda Carvalho. It's also in 
Canto's index.

Top right:

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1599-1662/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1599-1662_item1/P99.html


Em quinta-feira, 21 de julho de 2016 20:41:30 UTC-3, JR escreveu:
>
> This is sister of Luzia Carvalho, Maria Carvalho:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705_item1/P3.html
>
> VFSM casamentos- March 22- 1670, Manoel Correa Tracunas sic viuvo? com 
> Maria Cravalha fa. de Mel Rapozo e de Agada sic Carvalha, Test- Mel 
> Curvello e Anto Roiz Geral
>
> JR
>
> On Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 7:11:25 PM UTC-4, mances wrote:
>>
>> John,
>>
>> I think the godparent is Gaspar Pacheco filho de Bento da Fonseca.
>> Bento da Fonseca [de Arruda] married Bárbara Correia Raposo. He is in the 
>> RR's book, chapter 4, §12, N. 3
>>
>> I didn´t find yet the marriage of Manuel Raposo and Luzia Carvalho in 
>> MVFC and I think it's possible that we can link them to RR's book.
>>
>> Sebastião de Arruda and his sister Luzia Carvalho, residents of Arrifes, 
>> freguesia of São Mateus de Ponta Delgada, appear as Teresa's godparents. 
>> Teresa, the daughter of Manuel da Costa [Carvalho] and Margarida da 
>> Costa, was born in MVFC on 15 sept 1709 - CCA #249.
>>
>> In the baptism of Francisca on 3 nov 1710 - CCA #9 the godparent is 
>> Sebastião de Arruda, single, native of the freguesia de São Mateus, Ponta 
>> Delgada.
>>
>> Manoel
>>
>> Em quinta-feira, 21 de julho de 2016 14:44:56 UTC-3, JR escreveu:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1640-1669/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1640-1669_item1/P37.html
>>>
>>> VFSM bap- Luzia, May 21- 1644, filha de Mel Rapozo e Agada Carvalha, 
>>> Pad- Gpar. Pco? fo. de Bart? da Seca (Afonseca?)  e Izabel Pca. fa. de Mel 
>>> Pco. todos desta freg.
>>>
>>> VFSM bap-, Catharina, bap- March 19- 1659, filha de Matheus Jorge e de 
>>> Anna Ribeira, Pad- Joao Gonsalves aventureiro e Catharina da Costa...
>>>
>>> JR
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 1:10:28 PM UTC-4, mances wrote:

 Mais casamentos - Matriz de Vila Franca do Campo:

 Antonio da Costa x Maria Fernandes - dez 1654 - CCA #193

 Manuel Fernandes x Clara da Fonseca - 4 dez 1630 - CCA #109

 Diogo Fernandes x Beatriz [Ribeiro] - 22 out 1617 - CCA #74

 Manoel




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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel da Costa Carvalho from Vila Franca do Campo - S. MIguel - Ancestry

2016-07-21 Thread JR
Very Good. No wonder I did not find more children, they married much 
earlier than I thought so have to search the other way for children.

Regarding RR, do you mean Gaspar Manuel and and Beatriz Nunes, parents of 
Manoel Raposo?

JR

On Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 7:59:39 PM UTC-4, mances wrote:
>
> I found the marriage of Manuel Raposo and Águeda Carvalho. It's also in 
> Canto's index.
>
> Top right:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1599-1662/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1599-1662_item1/P99.html
>
>
> Em quinta-feira, 21 de julho de 2016 20:41:30 UTC-3, JR escreveu:
>>
>> This is sister of Luzia Carvalho, Maria Carvalho:
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705_item1/P3.html
>>
>> VFSM casamentos- March 22- 1670, Manoel Correa Tracunas sic viuvo? com 
>> Maria Cravalha fa. de Mel Rapozo e de Agada sic Carvalha, Test- Mel 
>> Curvello e Anto Roiz Geral
>>
>> JR
>>
>> On Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 7:11:25 PM UTC-4, mances wrote:
>>>
>>> John,
>>>
>>> I think the godparent is Gaspar Pacheco filho de Bento da Fonseca.
>>> Bento da Fonseca [de Arruda] married Bárbara Correia Raposo. He is in 
>>> the RR's book, chapter 4, §12, N. 3
>>>
>>> I didn´t find yet the marriage of Manuel Raposo and Luzia Carvalho in 
>>> MVFC and I think it's possible that we can link them to RR's book.
>>>
>>> Sebastião de Arruda and his sister Luzia Carvalho, residents of Arrifes, 
>>> freguesia of São Mateus de Ponta Delgada, appear as Teresa's godparents. 
>>> Teresa, the daughter of Manuel da Costa [Carvalho] and Margarida da 
>>> Costa, was born in MVFC on 15 sept 1709 - CCA #249.
>>>
>>> In the baptism of Francisca on 3 nov 1710 - CCA #9 the godparent is 
>>> Sebastião de Arruda, single, native of the freguesia de São Mateus, Ponta 
>>> Delgada.
>>>
>>> Manoel
>>>
>>> Em quinta-feira, 21 de julho de 2016 14:44:56 UTC-3, JR escreveu:


 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1640-1669/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1640-1669_item1/P37.html

 VFSM bap- Luzia, May 21- 1644, filha de Mel Rapozo e Agada Carvalha, 
 Pad- Gpar. Pco? fo. de Bart? da Seca (Afonseca?)  e Izabel Pca. fa. de Mel 
 Pco. todos desta freg.

 VFSM bap-, Catharina, bap- March 19- 1659, filha de Matheus Jorge e de 
 Anna Ribeira, Pad- Joao Gonsalves aventureiro e Catharina da Costa...

 JR

 On Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 1:10:28 PM UTC-4, mances wrote:
>
> Mais casamentos - Matriz de Vila Franca do Campo:
>
> Antonio da Costa x Maria Fernandes - dez 1654 - CCA #193
>
> Manuel Fernandes x Clara da Fonseca - 4 dez 1630 - CCA #109
>
> Diogo Fernandes x Beatriz [Ribeiro] - 22 out 1617 - CCA #74
>
> Manoel
>
>
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] ftDNA pet peeve

2016-07-21 Thread ramona nason

I agree, even worse is when you send them a message (several)
and never get a response.
Very Frustrating!

Sent from my HTC

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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] ftDNA pet peeve
Date: Thu, Jul 21, 2016 3:53 PM


The last few times I've gone on ftDNA and have found new "cousins" with
Ancestor Trees available, I have been irritated. When you click on their
tree you find only their name... with no tree at all! I don't even consider
it a seed.
If you are one of these people, do us all a favor, eliminate your "tree".

Tish Meals

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel da Costa Carvalho from Vila Franca do Campo - S. MIguel - Ancestry

2016-07-21 Thread mances
Unfortunately RR didn´t work on Gaspar Manuel and Beatriz Nunes ancestry.

Manoel

Em quinta-feira, 21 de julho de 2016 21:39:58 UTC-3, JR escreveu:
>
> Very Good. No wonder I did not find more children, they married much 
> earlier than I thought so have to search the other way for children.
>
> Regarding RR, do you mean Gaspar Manuel and and Beatriz Nunes, parents of 
> Manoel Raposo?
>
> JR
>
> On Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 7:59:39 PM UTC-4, mances wrote:
>>
>> I found the marriage of Manuel Raposo and Águeda Carvalho. It's also in 
>> Canto's index.
>>
>> Top right:
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1599-1662/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1599-1662_item1/P99.html
>>
>>
>> Em quinta-feira, 21 de julho de 2016 20:41:30 UTC-3, JR escreveu:
>>>
>>> This is sister of Luzia Carvalho, Maria Carvalho:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705_item1/P3.html
>>>
>>> VFSM casamentos- March 22- 1670, Manoel Correa Tracunas sic viuvo? com 
>>> Maria Cravalha fa. de Mel Rapozo e de Agada sic Carvalha, Test- Mel 
>>> Curvello e Anto Roiz Geral
>>>
>>> JR
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 7:11:25 PM UTC-4, mances wrote:

 John,

 I think the godparent is Gaspar Pacheco filho de Bento da Fonseca.
 Bento da Fonseca [de Arruda] married Bárbara Correia Raposo. He is in 
 the RR's book, chapter 4, §12, N. 3

 I didn´t find yet the marriage of Manuel Raposo and Luzia Carvalho in 
 MVFC and I think it's possible that we can link them to RR's book.

 Sebastião de Arruda and his sister Luzia Carvalho, residents of 
 Arrifes, freguesia of São Mateus de Ponta Delgada, appear as Teresa's 
 godparents. 
 Teresa, the daughter of Manuel da Costa [Carvalho] and Margarida da 
 Costa, was born in MVFC on 15 sept 1709 - CCA #249.

 In the baptism of Francisca on 3 nov 1710 - CCA #9 the godparent is 
 Sebastião de Arruda, single, native of the freguesia de São Mateus, Ponta 
 Delgada.

 Manoel

 Em quinta-feira, 21 de julho de 2016 14:44:56 UTC-3, JR escreveu:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1640-1669/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1640-1669_item1/P37.html
>
> VFSM bap- Luzia, May 21- 1644, filha de Mel Rapozo e Agada Carvalha, 
> Pad- Gpar. Pco? fo. de Bart? da Seca (Afonseca?)  e Izabel Pca. fa. de 
> Mel 
> Pco. todos desta freg.
>
> VFSM bap-, Catharina, bap- March 19- 1659, filha de Matheus Jorge e de 
> Anna Ribeira, Pad- Joao Gonsalves aventureiro e Catharina da Costa...
>
> JR
>
> On Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 1:10:28 PM UTC-4, mances wrote:
>>
>> Mais casamentos - Matriz de Vila Franca do Campo:
>>
>> Antonio da Costa x Maria Fernandes - dez 1654 - CCA #193
>>
>> Manuel Fernandes x Clara da Fonseca - 4 dez 1630 - CCA #109
>>
>> Diogo Fernandes x Beatriz [Ribeiro] - 22 out 1617 - CCA #74
>>
>> Manoel
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] ftDNA pet peeve

2016-07-21 Thread Cheri Mello
However, it's not FTDNA's fault that people don't email back. The same
thing happens on AncestryDNA and 23andMe as well. Not everyone answers
back. Sometimes it's them and sometimes it's the sender.

If someone is managing multiple kits and the email says "Hi I match you"
they have no idea who "you" is. If you state "Hi I'm matching Fred G.
Jones" then they have a starting point.

For more ways to get your matches to respond, read Roberta Estes' article
here: https://goo.gl/H0pq12

Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] ftDNA pet peeve

2016-07-21 Thread Tish M
I agree Ramona.

On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 2:06 PM, ramona nason 
wrote:

> I agree, even worse is when you send them a message (several)
> and never get a response.
>  Very Frustrating!
>
> Sent from my HTC
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Tish M" 
> To: "azores@googlegroups.com" 
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] ftDNA pet peeve
> Date: Thu, Jul 21, 2016 3:53 PM
>
> The last few times I've gone on ftDNA and have found new "cousins" with
> Ancestor Trees available, I have been irritated. When you click on their
> tree you find only their name... with no tree at all! I don't even consider
> it a seed.
> If you are one of these people, do us all a favor, eliminate your "tree".
>
> Tish Meals
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