Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: DNA question

[Cheri Mello]

Yeah, I know. That link thing is dumb. I uncheck the box so the person
doesn't know that I linked them. Well, they know because I've emailed them
already.

I'll let the tree guy at FTDNA know. I've already told Customer Service
once.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 5:18 PM, 'Susan Vargas Murphy' via Azores Genealogy
 wrote:

> On your note about linking people Cheri.I know you will be posting a
> video about this. I just wanted to ask you about the fact that I got two
> emails today saying in one that I was added to their family tree and in
> another, that my brother was addedbut I have no clue who did the
> linking.  I looked at my pedigree chart and cannot see whoever it was that
> added me and my brother. There was a link on the email but it did not work.
> Will we be able to know who links us? And I am not sure if this is good or
> not.if everyone is right, that is great, but if they are not right,
> then it reminds me of all the errors on Ancestry.com and why i have never
> posted a tree there. So who will see these links...only the person who
> links them, or anyone who looks at their pedigree??
> Interesting!!
> Susan Vargas Murphy
>
>
> You need to upload a Gedcom and start linking people. I suggest you get
> everyone back 10 - 12 generations and make sure it includes everyone coming
> forward (so your 3rd, 4th, 5th cousins are in your tree). Upload that and
> start linking. I'm making a video on it. I've been busy the last 10 days
> and hope to get to it this weekend.
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel De Sousa De Mattos and Maria Silveira Wedding

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

You are welcome, Louie! Good luck, you are doing fine, just wanted to you
'fine-tune'!!

Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 5:38 PM, Louie Avila 
wrote:

> Thanks Rosemarie,
> Yes, we talked it ... I'm using Legacy Family.
> I'll edit me De to de ...
> Thank you for the reply!
> Louie
>
> On Sunday, February 26, 2017 at 9:20:21 AM UTC-8, rcapodc wrote:
>>
>> Louie, it says that both of the marrying couple are from Ribeira Seca so,
>> look for their baptisms in Ribeira Seca to the parents mentioned. You have
>> the parental names correct except you need to start writing them with the
>> small 'de' not capital 'de'. It should be written, Manuel de Souza de
>> Mattos/Matos. I don't think we talked about which program you are using but
>> most allow you to write the given name and first surname as Manuel de Souza
>> de on one line then Mattos on the Surname line. When it prints it comes out
>> Manuel de Souza de Mattos.
>>
>> Rosemarie
>> rcap...@gmail.com
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Louie Avila 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I would guidance where the parents of the bride and groom went to
>>> Church/Freguesia or location baptized or married.
>>>
>>> Here is the link: *Bottom Left  *Manuel De Sousa De Mattos and Maria
>>> Silveira Wedding - 15 Nov 1762
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-
>>> TOPO-C-1756-1795/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1756-1795_item1/P26.html
>>>
>>> Grooms parents: Manuel De Costa and Anna De Sousa
>>> Brides parents: Antonio Simao Machado and Perpetua Maria
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Louie
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores Visit

[John Vasconcelos]

*Ken,*



*I agree with Susan and Rosemarie.You're dreaming if you think you can
visit more than one Island in 3 days and do it justice. Your time would be
better spent doing one island well. The $82 trip to Terceira sounds like a
good deal. Summer is a great time with a lot of Festas and Portuguese style
bullfights on Terceira. Air reservations between islands can sometimes be
iffy and you could easily spend a good part of that time sitting in
airports. If  you want to get to Graciosa, I would consider dumping Morocco
and use that time to visit Graciosa. There are inter-island ferries that
operate between about May - September and connect Terceria to the central
group which includes Graciosa.Google Azores islands Inter-island ferry's
and look at the Yellow Line Schedules. That is cheaper than flying and may
offer more flexability. What does your schedule look like, maybe we can
come up with more suggestions if we knew? *

*John Vasconcelos*
* .*

On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Ken Waters 
wrote:

> Hi Everybody,
>
> I just booked a 2-week open trip to Spain and am hoping to include a swing
> through the Azores out of Lisbon maybe for about 3 days. I have so many
> questions, looking for advice from those who may have visited. First of
> all, it would be wonderful to look up da Silva family on Graciosa. Is there
> anyone on this list from the island who could maybe help me out? It looks
> like some of the other islands are more of a magnet for tourists.  Any
> favorite islands of the group?
>
> Also is TAP out of Lisbon the best way to get there? A quick look found
> $82 RT fares Lisbon to Terceira.
>
> I have no doubt 3 days is not enough time to enjoy the islands but I do
> have to balance the time with other sites like Spain, mainland Portugal,
> and a trip to Morocco.
>
> If any of you know a good contact on Graciosa please let me know. Thanks!
>
> Feel free to direct message me (or to the list if it's germane to others)
> if you have any suggestions.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ken
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel De Sousa De Mattos and Maria Silveira Wedding

[bsei2816]

If I am making it through this correctly, the groom's parents are from 
Ribeira Seca (lines 11-12).  The bride's parents are from Topo and the 
bride was baptized there (lines 14-15).  All are parishioners in Rebeira 
Seca (line 15) where the groom was baptized (line 16).

Bill Seidler


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel De Sousa De Mattos and Maria Silveira Wedding

[Louie Avila]

Thanks Rosemarie,
Yes, we talked it ... I'm using Legacy Family.
I'll edit me De to de ...
Thank you for the reply!
Louie

On Sunday, February 26, 2017 at 9:20:21 AM UTC-8, rcapodc wrote:
>
> Louie, it says that both of the marrying couple are from Ribeira Seca so, 
> look for their baptisms in Ribeira Seca to the parents mentioned. You have 
> the parental names correct except you need to start writing them with the 
> small 'de' not capital 'de'. It should be written, Manuel de Souza de 
> Mattos/Matos. I don't think we talked about which program you are using but 
> most allow you to write the given name and first surname as Manuel de Souza 
> de on one line then Mattos on the Surname line. When it prints it comes out 
> Manuel de Souza de Mattos. 
>
> Rosemarie 
> rcap...@gmail.com 
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Louie Avila  > wrote:
>
>> I would guidance where the parents of the bride and groom went to 
>> Church/Freguesia or location baptized or married.
>>
>> Here is the link: *Bottom Left  *Manuel De Sousa De Mattos and Maria 
>> Silveira Wedding - 15 Nov 1762
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1756-1795/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1756-1795_item1/P26.html
>>
>> Grooms parents: Manuel De Costa and Anna De Sousa
>> Brides parents: Antonio Simao Machado and Perpetua Maria
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Louie
>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: DNA question

['Susan Vargas Murphy' via Azores Genealogy]

On your note about linking people Cheri.I know you will be posting a 
video about this. I just wanted to ask you about the fact that I got two 
emails today saying in one that I was added to their family tree and in 
another, that my brother was addedbut I have no clue who did the 
linking.  I looked at my pedigree chart and cannot see whoever it was that 
added me and my brother. There was a link on the email but it did not work. 
Will we be able to know who links us? And I am not sure if this is good or 
not.if everyone is right, that is great, but if they are not right, 
then it reminds me of all the errors on Ancestry.com and why i have never 
posted a tree there. So who will see these links...only the person who 
links them, or anyone who looks at their pedigree??
Interesting!!
Susan Vargas Murphy


You need to upload a Gedcom and start linking people. I suggest you get 
everyone back 10 - 12 generations and make sure it includes everyone coming 
forward (so your 3rd, 4th, 5th cousins are in your tree). Upload that and 
start linking. I'm making a video on it. I've been busy the last 10 days 
and hope to get to it this weekend.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores Visit

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

...and you think I'm going to fly to the Azores anytime soon!!! No, Prima,
I don't think so LOL

Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 4:12 PM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Ok, I will elaborate, as Mary said, I was diplomatic and you will see that
> I was!!  I know this is not genealogy but it is entertaining I think:)
>
> One funny story was the last time I went with my dad, when he was close to
> 80 and hard of hearing (so I had to be the “I speak broken Portuguese”
>  negotiator)…We sat ON the plane in Oakland for THREE hours for whoever
> knows what reason and consequently got to Terceira very late and missed our
> connecting flight to Faial. (Now mind you, they knew in Terceira that SO
> many on our flight were going on that flight to Faial, and heard that they
> left with only a handful of people,  but they took off without us anyway).
> So we ended up stranded in Terceira waiting for an afternoon flight. We
> were all in the same boat because we had come off the same fight but the
> people in charge said my dad and I  were at the end of the line because our
> luggage  had come off last!  OK…..so then they said that our luggage would
> be going to Faial but we would NOT. You can get a visual of me and my cute
> dad running out on the field saying…don’t take our luggage!! They had mixed
> our luggage up as there was another Vargas pair on their way to Faial and
> thought it was their luggage.   We had been at the airport for hours and,
> at that point, I broke down and cried because they said we would have to
> spend the night and we had reservations only in Faial. We had had NO
> sleep!  The sweet lady at the desk called someone and got us a hotel and
> arranged a taxi to take us there. But still we missed a day at our
> destination of Faial.  To be fair that was in about 1997.
>
> Fast forward to just two years ago when we took my daughter’s family to
> the Azores. (it is my goal to try to take all my grandchildren when they
> are old enough). So we were all set to leave on the charter flight from
> Oakland on a Monday. I think it was about Thursday that we got a call that
> our plane was was having problems and they had to “rent” a plane and now we
> would be leaving on Sunday NOT Monday (what?? My grandsons were all in swim
> championships on Sunday and practically had to dry off and change in the
> car and dash to the airport)  So…you can imagine, we had NO hotel
> reservations, so Sata put us up in a hotel in Terceira and also paid for
> our meals because we were a day early…. They also transported us to and
> from the hotel but we were made to wait in a ramshackle bus for a long time
> for them to fill the bus.  Well, it was great to get that extra day but
> little did know that the saga of SATA was not over:)
>
> When we went to fly home two weeks later, we took off and had flown for
> close to an hour when an announcement came on that we were going back. We
> had not picked up altitude and I want you to know that it was SO SCARY and
> I’m sure a LOT of promesas and hail Mary’s were offered up! It felt like we
> were on the little Engine who could…..Not quite make it!!  We were all
> pretty frightened except my youngest grandson who just delighted to be
> going back!
> Now they had to put us up again while the airplane was repaired. This
> ended up being a great experience as it was a festa weekend and most hotels
> were booked. So they sent us by taxi to Quinta do Martelo which is an
> agritourism place, in the countryside.  I slept that night in an old lava
> rock house and imagined I was back in time. The food was the best of our
> two weeks in the Azores…but I am not sure it was worth the frightening
> experience.  I have to tell you that I was still very nervous to get back
> on the SAME plane to go home the next day. But we all lived to tell the
> story and my only regret was that we did not buy those T Shirts that say “I
> Survived Sata” :)
> So now you know the rest of the story and why, if I have the hoped for
> privilege of taking my last little family group (one grandson is only
> three)….I am planning to go to the mainland and then take TAP!!
>
> It’s an adventure!
> Susan Vargas Murphy
>
> On Feb 26, 2017, at 1:53 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
> I haven't flown SATA recently. Maybe I did about 10 years ago. They were
> fine at the American airport and in the air. But when I landed over
> thereI think they were all on lunch break. It took a very long time to
> get the baggage. Other than that, I didn't have problems, but like I said,
> that was 10 or more years ago.   Cheri
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores Visit

['Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy]

Ok, I will elaborate, as Mary said, I was diplomatic and you will see that I 
was!!  I know this is not genealogy but it is entertaining I think:)

One funny story was the last time I went with my dad, when he was close to 80 
and hard of hearing (so I had to be the “I speak broken Portuguese”  
negotiator)…We sat ON the plane in Oakland for THREE hours for whoever knows 
what reason and consequently got to Terceira very late and missed our 
connecting flight to Faial. (Now mind you, they knew in Terceira that SO many 
on our flight were going on that flight to Faial, and heard that they left with 
only a handful of people,  but they took off without us anyway). So we ended up 
stranded in Terceira waiting for an afternoon flight. We were all in the same 
boat because we had come off the same fight but the people in charge said my 
dad and I  were at the end of the line because our luggage  had come off last!  
OK…..so then they said that our luggage would be going to Faial but we would 
NOT. You can get a visual of me and my cute dad running out on the field 
saying…don’t take our luggage!! They had mixed our luggage up as there was 
another Vargas pair on their way to Faial and thought it was their luggage.   
We had been at the airport for hours and, at that point, I broke down and cried 
because they said we would have to spend the night and we had reservations only 
in Faial. We had had NO sleep!  The sweet lady at the desk called someone and 
got us a hotel and arranged a taxi to take us there. But still we missed a day 
at our destination of Faial.  To be fair that was in about 1997.

Fast forward to just two years ago when we took my daughter’s family to the 
Azores. (it is my goal to try to take all my grandchildren when they are old 
enough). So we were all set to leave on the charter flight from Oakland on a 
Monday. I think it was about Thursday that we got a call that our plane was was 
having problems and they had to “rent” a plane and now we would be leaving on 
Sunday NOT Monday (what?? My grandsons were all in swim championships on Sunday 
and practically had to dry off and change in the car and dash to the airport)  
So…you can imagine, we had NO hotel reservations, so Sata put us up in a hotel 
in Terceira and also paid for our meals because we were a day early…. They also 
transported us to and from the hotel but we were made to wait in a ramshackle 
bus for a long time for them to fill the bus.  Well, it was great to get that 
extra day but little did know that the saga of SATA was not over:)

When we went to fly home two weeks later, we took off and had flown for close 
to an hour when an announcement came on that we were going back. We had not 
picked up altitude and I want you to know that it was SO SCARY and I’m sure a 
LOT of promesas and hail Mary’s were offered up! It felt like we were on the 
little Engine who could…..Not quite make it!!  We were all pretty frightened 
except my youngest grandson who just delighted to be going back!
Now they had to put us up again while the airplane was repaired. This ended up 
being a great experience as it was a festa weekend and most hotels were booked. 
So they sent us by taxi to Quinta do Martelo which is an agritourism place, in 
the countryside.  I slept that night in an old lava rock house and imagined I 
was back in time. The food was the best of our two weeks in the Azores…but I am 
not sure it was worth the frightening experience.  I have to tell you that I 
was still very nervous to get back on the SAME plane to go home the next day. 
But we all lived to tell the story and my only regret was that we did not buy 
those T Shirts that say “I Survived Sata” :)
So now you know the rest of the story and why, if I have the hoped for 
privilege of taking my last little family group (one grandson is only three)….I 
am planning to go to the mainland and then take TAP!! 

It’s an adventure!
Susan Vargas Murphy

> On Feb 26, 2017, at 1:53 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> I haven't flown SATA recently. Maybe I did about 10 years ago. They were fine 
> at the American airport and in the air. But when I landed over thereI 
> think they were all on lunch break. It took a very long time to get the 
> baggage. Other than that, I didn't have problems, but like I said, that was 
> 10 or more years ago.   Cheri
> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores Visit

['John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy]

I fly SATA all the time. They have improved greatly and except for the uniforms 
of the cabin crew and the exterior design of the plane, you'd be hard pressed 
to  differentiate SATA from TAP. Unfortunately, neither airline serves the 
great meals that TAP used to serve, and the bar service is almost non-existent. 
I have never had a problem with baggage.
John
 

On Sunday, February 26, 2017 4:54 PM, Cheri Mello  
wrote:
 

 I haven't flown SATA recently. Maybe I did about 10 years ago. They were fine 
at the American airport and in the air. But when I landed over thereI think 
they were all on lunch break. It took a very long time to get the baggage. 
Other than that, I didn't have problems, but like I said, that was 10 or more 
years ago.   Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores Visit

[Cheri Mello]

I haven't flown SATA recently. Maybe I did about 10 years ago. They were
fine at the American airport and in the air. But when I landed over
thereI think they were all on lunch break. It took a very long time to
get the baggage. Other than that, I didn't have problems, but like I said,
that was 10 or more years ago.   Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptism record - Francisco (Jose da Terra) of Cabo da Praia Terceira 1864

[Margaret Vicente]

Agree with Linda.. ...lancado a fl (folha) 6 do livro de ...

I need help with the *17th & 18th lines*... Neto Materno de (Maternal
Grandparents)  Jose Coelho Ribeiro e de Catarina Luisa.




On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 12:46 PM, linda  wrote:

> Hi Evee,
>
> If I read it correctly, the margin note is making a correction to the info
> on the baptism that the mother's name was Isabel Victorina, not Isabel de
> Ascencao.  A native speaker should confirm that, though.
>
> Foi reconhecido e perfilhado por seu pai Francisco Jose Terra por
> escriptura de 22 de Julho de 1884 e justificou ser filho natural de Isabel
> Victorina e nao de Izabel de Acsencao cujo termo vai lancado a [???] do
> livro de reconhecimentos. Cabo da Praia 25 Novembro de 1880. O Vig.o JMendes
>
> hope that helps,
>
> Linda
>
>
>
> On Saturday, February 25, 2017 at 7:41:45 PM UTC-8, Evee Silva Kiler wrote:
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-
>> CABODAPRAIA-B-1860-1869/TER-PV-CABODAPRAIA-B-1860-1869_item1/P69.html
>>
>>
>> Record 15 in the above URL.
>>
>>
>> Francisco [Jose da Terra] baptism
>>
>>
>> BIRTH 17 MAY 1864 • Cabo da Praia, Terceira, Azores, Portugal
>> DEATH Unknown
>>
>> Francisco's father is incognito.  He was born 17 May 1864 to Isabel
>> d'Ascencao, soliteira.
>>
>> I need help with the *17th & 18th lines*...Specifically, I need help
>> with the materna.   I cannot understand what I see:  it looks like Jose
>> Coelho and then the next word seems to start at the end of the line and
>> finishes on the next line.  I can't tell if it is a third name or not.  The
>> letters just before "e de Catharina Luiza" seem to be "siro"?
>>   Padrinhos:  Francisco and Delfina, Solteiros.
>>
>> And then there is the *margin note* I need help with:
>>
>>
>> I believe I get the gist of it as this:  Francisco was recognized by his
>> father Francisco Jose Terra on the 22nd of July, 1884.  (both son and
>> father have the same name)
>>
>> Isabel Victorina is named in the margin and so is Isabel d'Ascencao, who
>> is also named in the baptism as the mother of Francisco.
>>
>> Then the date of 25 November 1886 is the recorded date?.
>>
>>
>> I am wondering what is being said about the two women.  Is Francisco now
>> married to Isabel Victorina, but Isabel d'Ascencao and Francisco Jose Terra
>> are the parents of Francisco?
>>
>> I need help with the meaning.
>>
>>
>> Obrigado!!
>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptism record - Francisco (Jose da Terra) of Cabo da Praia Terceira 1864

[linda]

Hi Evee,

If I read it correctly, the margin note is making a correction to the info 
on the baptism that the mother's name was Isabel Victorina, not Isabel de 
Ascencao.  A native speaker should confirm that, though.

Foi reconhecido e perfilhado por seu pai Francisco Jose Terra por 
escriptura de 22 de Julho de 1884 e justificou ser filho natural de Isabel 
Victorina e nao de Izabel de Acsencao cujo termo vai lancado a [???] do 
livro de reconhecimentos. Cabo da Praia 25 Novembro de 1880. O Vig.o JMendes

hope that helps,

Linda


On Saturday, February 25, 2017 at 7:41:45 PM UTC-8, Evee Silva Kiler wrote:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-CABODAPRAIA-B-1860-1869/TER-PV-CABODAPRAIA-B-1860-1869_item1/P69.html
>
>
> Record 15 in the above URL. 
>
>
> Francisco [Jose da Terra] baptism
>
>
> BIRTH 17 MAY 1864 • Cabo da Praia, Terceira, Azores, Portugal
> DEATH Unknown
>
> Francisco's father is incognito.  He was born 17 May 1864 to Isabel 
> d'Ascencao, soliteira.  
>
> I need help with the *17th & 18th lines*...Specifically, I need help with 
> the materna.   I cannot understand what I see:  it looks like Jose Coelho 
> and then the next word seems to start at the end of the line and finishes 
> on the next line.  I can't tell if it is a third name or not.  The letters 
> just before "e de Catharina Luiza" seem to be "siro"?
>   Padrinhos:  Francisco and Delfina, Solteiros.
>
> And then there is the *margin note* I need help with:
>
>
> I believe I get the gist of it as this:  Francisco was recognized by his 
> father Francisco Jose Terra on the 22nd of July, 1884.  (both son and 
> father have the same name)
>
> Isabel Victorina is named in the margin and so is Isabel d'Ascencao, who 
> is also named in the baptism as the mother of Francisco.  
>
> Then the date of 25 November 1886 is the recorded date?.
>
>
> I am wondering what is being said about the two women.  Is Francisco now 
> married to Isabel Victorina, but Isabel d'Ascencao and Francisco Jose Terra 
> are the parents of Francisco?
>
> I need help with the meaning.
>
>
> Obrigado!!
>
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel De Sousa De Mattos and Maria Silveira Wedding

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Louie, it says that both of the marrying couple are from Ribeira Seca so,
look for their baptisms in Ribeira Seca to the parents mentioned. You have
the parental names correct except you need to start writing them with the
small 'de' not capital 'de'. It should be written, Manuel de Souza de
Mattos/Matos. I don't think we talked about which program you are using but
most allow you to write the given name and first surname as Manuel de Souza
de on one line then Mattos on the Surname line. When it prints it comes out
Manuel de Souza de Mattos.

Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Louie Avila 
wrote:

> I would guidance where the parents of the bride and groom went to
> Church/Freguesia or location baptized or married.
>
> Here is the link: *Bottom Left  *Manuel De Sousa De Mattos and Maria
> Silveira Wedding - 15 Nov 1762
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-
> CH-TOPO-C-1756-1795/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1756-1795_item1/P26.html
>
> Grooms parents: Manuel De Costa and Anna De Sousa
> Brides parents: Antonio Simao Machado and Perpetua Maria
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Louie
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores Visit

[Leonard Silva]

Don,
My grandfather, Manuel Correia Silva, was also from Covas, Graciosa. He was 
born in 1865. He married Anna Mendonca, born 1863, also from Covas.  I know 
so very little of his life pre immigration.  Please contact me if you have 
anything to share.

On Saturday, February 25, 2017 at 8:17:46 PM UTC-5, dfvasco39 wrote:
>
> Hi Ken,
> I have friends who are in the process of owning a B&B in Santa Cruz, 
> Graciosa. If you are interested, I can send you the info.
> You have to take the ferry or fly from Terceira to Graciosa.
> My grandfather was a Silva from Covas, Graciosa and his niece who is in 
> her 90's lives near Guadalupe, Graciosa.
> Don Vasconcelos
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 25, 2017, at 4:57 PM, Cheri Mello > 
> wrote:
>
> SATA may fly to TER as well.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Ken Waters  > wrote:
>
>> Hi Everybody,
>>
>> I just booked a 2-week open trip to Spain and am hoping to include a 
>> swing through the Azores out of Lisbon maybe for about 3 days. I have so 
>> many questions, looking for advice from those who may have visited. First 
>> of all, it would be wonderful to look up da Silva family on Graciosa. Is 
>> there anyone on this list from the island who could maybe help me out? It 
>> looks like some of the other islands are more of a magnet for tourists.  
>> Any favorite islands of the group?
>>
>> Also is TAP out of Lisbon the best way to get there? A quick look found 
>> $82 RT fares Lisbon to Terceira.
>>
>> I have no doubt 3 days is not enough time to enjoy the islands but I do 
>> have to balance the time with other sites like Spain, mainland Portugal, 
>> and a trip to Morocco.
>>
>> If any of you know a good contact on Graciosa please let me know. Thanks!
>>
>> Feel free to direct message me (or to the list if it's germane to others) 
>> if you have any suggestions.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Ken
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores Visit

[Mary Bordi]

Ah yes, SATA. I like Susan's diplomacy!  There's the nickname "Sitting At
The Airport".

We were fortunate to be on a tour with a guide who knew that SATA owed us a
free meal of the delay was longer than a certain amount of time.

Of course, the weather conditions can be changeable and flights can be
delayed. But sometimes it's inexplicable!

Mary

On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 5:55 PM 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Ken,
>
> Cheri mentioned SATA and I just want to say that I have had some issues
> with SATA as it is hard to explain but three of three
> times I have flown with them have had long delays, one overnight. I am not
> sure about TAP, but think that I want to try flying to the mainland and
> then taking TAP if I ever get to go again.
>
> I have been to five of the nine islands and you are right, the others have
> more tourists but for good reason. Sao Miguel is particularly beautiful.
> If you can at all afford more time, I would recommend including Sao Miguel.
> But with three days, you will have to arrive on Terciera…be lucky to get to
> Graciosa that day (seriously) and if you make it, then you will have one
> day in Graciosa (two nights) and will have to fly back to Terceira (I
> think) to fly back to the mainland. If that is all you can afford time
> wise, DO IT, rather than not go!  If you do, you will be back for sure.  I
> may sound biased (haha) but i have been to Portugal, Spain (not Morocco)
> and the beauty of the Azores and excitement that I felt visiting the land
> of my ancestors surpassed anything in Spain and Portugal. I have not been
> to Graciosa, but imagine that it, like Sao Jorge and Flores that I have
> visited, is more untouched by the modern world.
>
> Unless you know of specific family ties, it will be hard to find the “da
> Silva” family as Silva is sort of like Smith here…probably the most common
> surname.
>
> Best of luck to you…you are in for a treat!
>
> Susan Vargas Murphy
>
>
> On Feb 25, 2017, at 4:41 PM, Ken Waters  wrote:
>
> Hi Everybody,
>
> I just booked a 2-week open trip to Spain and am hoping to include a swing
> through the Azores out of Lisbon maybe for about 3 days. I have so many
> questions, looking for advice from those who may have visited. First of
> all, it would be wonderful to look up da Silva family on Graciosa. Is there
> anyone on this list from the island who could maybe help me out? It looks
> like some of the other islands are more of a magnet for tourists.  Any
> favorite islands of the group?
>
> Also is TAP out of Lisbon the best way to get there? A quick look found
> $82 RT fares Lisbon to Terceira.
>
> I have no doubt 3 days is not enough time to enjoy the islands but I do
> have to balance the time with other sites like Spain, mainland Portugal,
> and a trip to Morocco.
>
> If any of you know a good contact on Graciosa please let me know. Thanks!
>
> Feel free to direct message me (or to the list if it's germane to others)
> if you have any suggestions.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ken
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel De Sousa De Mattos and Maria Silveira Wedding

[Louie Avila]

I would guidance where the parents of the bride and groom went to 
Church/Freguesia or location baptized or married.

Here is the link: *Bottom Left  *Manuel De Sousa De Mattos and Maria 
Silveira Wedding - 15 Nov 1762

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1756-1795/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1756-1795_item1/P26.html

Grooms parents: Manuel De Costa and Anna De Sousa
Brides parents: Antonio Simao Machado and Perpetua Maria

Thanks in advance,
Louie

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