Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Madeira research

[Liz Migliori]

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> On May 16, 2017, at 11:23 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> Joining Rootsweb lists doesn't work that way. Sending a message to 
> prt-made...@rootsweb.com means you sent the word "subscribe" to everyone on 
> the list. Follow the directions in the link I provided in the previous email. 
> Here it is again:
> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/PRT/PRT-MADEIRA.html
> 
> Tombo.pt is only a portal (like an index or a table of contents) to the 
> Portuguese based arquives. He's written code to crawl all the Portuguese 
> based sites in the Azores, Madeira, and the continent of Portugal. He then 
> presents you with what is available all on one page.
> 
> Hope that clarifies things! Cheri
> 
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
> 
>> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 1:36 PM, 'Denise' via Azores Genealogy 
>>  wrote:
>> Hi Maria Elena, 
>> 
>> Yes there is a Madeira email list like this one. The email is 
>> prt-made...@rootsweb.com. I believe if you send an email to that address 
>> saying SUBSCRIBE it should get you on the list. In the meantime, the way 
>> Erica explained how to view the Madeira films on line at FamilySearch.org is 
>> the best way of doing it, just follow her instructions. Tombo and the 
>> Archivo Regional da Madeira are no where near where Family Search is right 
>> now. 
>> 
>> There's no need to compare lists, just go to the site that has what you're 
>> looking for. Not all parishes are available yet but a decent amount are.
>> 
>> Denise D'Antona
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Cheri Mello 
>> To: azores 
>> Sent: Tue, May 16, 2017 4:07 pm
>> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Madeira research
>> 
>> It's very clear on Tombo.pt that Madeira is not all there. I don't have the 
>> time to sit down and compare the records that Tombo.pt is catching from the 
>> ABM (Madeira's CCA site) to the records that Family Search is doing. I'll 
>> leave that to someone who researches Madeira. Cheri
>> On May 16, 2017 12:46 PM, "Marilyn Thompson"  wrote:
>> If you click on each link then scroll down a little you will see a camera. 
>> Click on that and the digital images for that time period will come up. 
>> 
>> I have no idea if all of the records for Madeira are there or not. It looks 
>> like many are.  Family History Library link below:
>> 
>> 
>> https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/results?count=20&placeId=133722&query=%2Bplace%3A%22Portugal%2C%20Madeira%20(ilha)%22&subjectsOpen=332081-50
>> 
>> Hope this helps
>> 
>> Marilyn
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 2017-05-16 13:41 GMT-06:00 Marilyn Thompson :
>> I just pulled up the catalog. This is the listing for Church Records
>> Registros paroquiais, 1538-1911
>> Author:  Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Assunção (Funchal, Funchal)
>>   Add 
>> Registros paroquiais, 1539-1910
>> Author:  Igreja Católica. São Bento (Ribeira Brava, Funchal)
>>   Add 
>> Registros paroquiais, 1539-1910
>> Author:  Igreja Católica. São Salvador (Santa Cruz, Funchal)
>>   Add 
>> Registros paroquiais, 1539-1910
>> Author:  Igreja Católica. Santo Antão (Caniço, Funchal)
>>   Add 
>> Registros paroquiais, 1539-1914
>> Author:  Igreja Católica. Espírito Santo (Calheta, Funchal)
>>   Add 
>> Registros paroquiais, 1542-1911
>> Author:  Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Natividade (Faial, Funchal)
>>   Add 
>> Registros paroquiais, 1557-1950
>> Author:  Igreja Católica. Santo António (Santo António, Funchal)
>>   Add 
>> Registros paroquiais, 1560-1910
>> Author:  Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Luz (Gaula, Funchal)
>>   Add 
>> Registros paroquiais, 1562-1911
>> Author:  Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Graça (Estreito de Câmara de 
>> Lobos, Funchal)
>>   Add 
>> Registros paroquiais, 1565-1911
>> Author:  Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Luz (Ponta do Sol, Funchal)
>>   Add 
>> Registros paroquiais, 1568-1911
>> Author:  Igreja Católica. São Gonçalo (São Gonçalo, Funchal)
>>   Add 
>> Registros paroquiais, 1568-1911
>> Author:  Igreja Católica. São Pedro (Funchal, Funchal)
>>   Add 
>> Registros paroquiais, 1568-1911
>> Author:  Igreja Católica. Santa Ana (Santana, Funchal)
>>   Add 
>> Registros paroquiais, 1570-1910
>> Author:  Igreja Católica. São Sebastião (Câmara de Lobos, Funchal)
>>   Add 
>> Registros paroquiais, 1571-1910
>> Author:  Igreja Católica. Santa Beatriz (Água de Pena, Funchal)
>>   Add 
>> Registros paroquiais, 1571-1959
>> Author:  Igreja Católica. São João Batista (Fajã da Ovelha, Funchal)
>>   Add 
>> Registros paroquiais, 1572-1911
>> Author:  Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Conceição (Porto Moniz, 
>> Funchal)
>>   Add 
>> Registros paroquiais, 1577-1911
>> Author:  Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Guadalupe (Porto da Cruz, 
>> Funchal)
>>   Add 
>> Registros paroquiais,

[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Bretanha Óbitos - 1862

[Joanne Mercier]

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-O-1860-1869/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-O-1860-1869_item1/P29.html
-
right hand side #8

I understand most of it but I have 2 questions -
1) is that the word “exposta” after Claudina’s name?
2) Can someone translate the last sentence after Francisco de Camara’s name?

I always appreciate the help - thanks!

Joanne Grota Mercier

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Software and Genealogy survey

[Cheri Mello]

I made a little survey about genealogy software. It's only 7 questions. I
think it takes only 2 or 3 minutes. I'd appreciate it if all of you could
help me out.
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/7KGD2J8
Thanks Cheri
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Release of CCA records 1906-1910 for Sao Miguel

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

You are welcome, Andrew. I hope that you can give him more details so that
he can find your info and get you started on the trip back through the
records!
Good Luck!

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Andrew Medeiros 
wrote:

> Hi Rosemarie,
> Thanks for your response.  I have used Joao Ventura recently.  He was able
> to find one document for me but had difficulty locating for others largely
> because the information I had given him was perhaps not 100% accurate.  But
> I think I will redouble my efforts with Joao.  Thanks again.
>
> Andrew
>
> On Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 1:50:00 AM UTC-4, rcapodc wrote:
>>
>> Andrew, unless you are planning a trip to the Azores you will have to
>> hire a researcher to do the research for you. You can go to the Azores
>> GenWeb site at: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/index.html and
>> look for the list that Kathy has of researchers for hire. Personally I have
>> Joao Ventura, who lived in Terceira, do searches for me. He is very
>> reliable.
>>
>>
>> Rosemarie
>> rcap...@gmail.com
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 5:27 PM, Andrew Medeiros 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Cheri for responding to my post.  This is extremely frustrating.
>>> Not sure how to access these records unless I physically visit the islands.
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 4:50:52 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:

 The archive in Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel island only scanned their
 records to 1905 or so. Not all were scanned to 1910/1911. The CCA considers
 the genealogy project done and have moved on to other historical things on
 the islands. :(

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
 Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 1:46 PM, Andrew Medeiros 
 wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> My name is Andrew Medeiros.  I currently reside in Rhode Island and I
> just joined your group today.  I am currently doing research for my family
> who originated on Sao Miguel, specifically I have been looking at Ribeira
> Grande.  Does anyone know when CCA will be releasing the records for
> 1906-1910?  I really need to be able to research these years as I do not
> know the exact parish and date of a wedding that occurred around this 
> time.
>   If not, anyone know how I could contact them to find out?
>
> Thanks,
> Andrew
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Release of CCA records 1906-1910 for Sao Miguel

[Andrew Medeiros]

Hi Rosemarie,
Thanks for your response.  I have used Joao Ventura recently.  He was able 
to find one document for me but had difficulty locating for others largely 
because the information I had given him was perhaps not 100% accurate.  But 
I think I will redouble my efforts with Joao.  Thanks again.

Andrew

On Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 1:50:00 AM UTC-4, rcapodc wrote:
>
> Andrew, unless you are planning a trip to the Azores you will have to hire 
> a researcher to do the research for you. You can go to the Azores GenWeb 
> site at: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/index.html and look for 
> the list that Kathy has of researchers for hire. Personally I have Joao 
> Ventura, who lived in Terceira, do searches for me. He is very reliable.  
>
>
> Rosemarie 
> rcap...@gmail.com 
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 5:27 PM, Andrew Medeiros  > wrote:
>
>> Thanks Cheri for responding to my post.  This is extremely frustrating. 
>> Not sure how to access these records unless I physically visit the islands.
>>
>> On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 4:50:52 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
>>> The archive in Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel island only scanned their 
>>> records to 1905 or so. Not all were scanned to 1910/1911. The CCA considers 
>>> the genealogy project done and have moved on to other historical things on 
>>> the islands. :(
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira 
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 1:46 PM, Andrew Medeiros  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hello Everyone,

 My name is Andrew Medeiros.  I currently reside in Rhode Island and I 
 just joined your group today.  I am currently doing research for my family 
 who originated on Sao Miguel, specifically I have been looking at Ribeira 
 Grande.  Does anyone know when CCA will be releasing the records for 
 1906-1910?  I really need to be able to research these years as I do not 
 know the exact parish and date of a wedding that occurred around this 
 time. 
   If not, anyone know how I could contact them to find out? 

 Thanks,
 Andrew

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Madeira research

[Cheri Mello]

Joining Rootsweb lists doesn't work that way. Sending a message to
prt-made...@rootsweb.com means you sent the word "subscribe" to everyone on
the list. Follow the directions in the link I provided in the previous
email. Here it is again:
http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/PRT/PRT-MADEIRA.html

Tombo.pt is only a portal (like an index or a table of contents) to the
Portuguese based arquives. He's written code to crawl all the Portuguese
based sites in the Azores, Madeira, and the continent of Portugal. He then
presents you with what is available all on one page.

Hope that clarifies things! Cheri

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 1:36 PM, 'Denise' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi Maria Elena,
>
> Yes there is a Madeira email list like this one. The email is
> prt-made...@rootsweb.com. I believe if you send an email to that address
> saying SUBSCRIBE it should get you on the list. In the meantime, the way
> Erica explained how to view the Madeira films on line at FamilySearch.org
> is the best way of doing it, just follow her instructions. Tombo and the
> Archivo Regional da Madeira are no where near where Family Search is right
> now.
>
> There's no need to compare lists, just go to the site that has what you're
> looking for. Not all parishes are available yet but a decent amount are.
>
> Denise D'Antona
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Cheri Mello 
> To: azores 
> Sent: Tue, May 16, 2017 4:07 pm
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Madeira research
>
> It's very clear on Tombo.pt that Madeira is not all there. I don't have
> the time to sit down and compare the records that Tombo.pt is catching from
> the ABM (Madeira's CCA site) to the records that Family Search is doing.
> I'll leave that to someone who researches Madeira. Cheri
> On May 16, 2017 12:46 PM, "Marilyn Thompson"  wrote:
>
> If you click on each link then scroll down a little you will see a camera.
> Click on that and the digital images for that time period will come up.
>
> I have no idea if all of the records for Madeira are there or not. It
> looks like many are.  Family History Library link below:
>
>
> https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/results?count=20&;
> placeId=133722&query=%2Bplace%3A%22Portugal%2C%20Madeira%20(
> ilha)%22&subjectsOpen=332081-50
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Marilyn
>
>
>
>
> 2017-05-16 13:41 GMT-06:00 Marilyn Thompson :
>
> I just pulled up the catalog. This is the listing for Church Records
>
>1. Registros paroquiais, 1538-1911
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Assunção (Funchal, Funchal)
>Add
>2. Registros paroquiais, 1539-1910
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. São Bento (Ribeira Brava, Funchal)
>Add
>3. Registros paroquiais, 1539-1910
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. São Salvador (Santa Cruz, Funchal)
>Add
>4. Registros paroquiais, 1539-1910
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. Santo Antão (Caniço, Funchal)
>Add
>5. Registros paroquiais, 1539-1914
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. Espírito Santo (Calheta, Funchal)
>Add
>6. Registros paroquiais, 1542-1911
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Natividade (Faial, Funchal)
>Add
>7. Registros paroquiais, 1557-1950
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. Santo António (Santo António, Funchal)
>Add
>8. Registros paroquiais, 1560-1910
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Luz (Gaula, Funchal)
>Add
>9. Registros paroquiais, 1562-1911
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Graça (Estreito de Câmara de
>Lobos, Funchal)
>Add
>10. Registros paroquiais, 1565-1911
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Luz (Ponta do Sol, Funchal)
>Add
>11. Registros paroquiais, 1568-1911
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. São Gonçalo (São Gonçalo, Funchal)
>Add
>12. Registros paroquiais, 1568-1911
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. São Pedro (Funchal, Funchal)
>Add
>13. Registros paroquiais, 1568-1911
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. Santa Ana (Santana, Funchal)
>Add
>14. Registros paroquiais, 1570-1910
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. São Sebastião (Câmara de Lo

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Madeira research

[Maria Lima]

I've received so much help from all of you on this great List and I want to 
thank you.  Now, I'm so looking forward to seeing if I can help this friend and 
share her excitement as we find her ancestors.  

😀😀

Maria Elena 

> On May 16, 2017, at 3:36 PM, 'Denise' via Azores Genealogy 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Maria Elena, 
> 
> Yes there is a Madeira email list like this one. The email is 
> prt-made...@rootsweb.com. I believe if you send an email to that address 
> saying SUBSCRIBE it should get you on the list. In the meantime, the way 
> Erica explained how to view the Madeira films on line at FamilySearch.org is 
> the best way of doing it, just follow her instructions. Tombo and the Archivo 
> Regional da Madeira are no where near where Family Search is right now. 
> 
> There's no need to compare lists, just go to the site that has what you're 
> looking for. Not all parishes are available yet but a decent amount are.
> 
> Denise D'Antona
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Cheri Mello 
> To: azores 
> Sent: Tue, May 16, 2017 4:07 pm
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Madeira research
> 
> It's very clear on Tombo.pt that Madeira is not all there. I don't have the 
> time to sit down and compare the records that Tombo.pt is catching from the 
> ABM (Madeira's CCA site) to the records that Family Search is doing. I'll 
> leave that to someone who researches Madeira. Cheri
> On May 16, 2017 12:46 PM, "Marilyn Thompson"  wrote:
> If you click on each link then scroll down a little you will see a camera. 
> Click on that and the digital images for that time period will come up. 
> 
> I have no idea if all of the records for Madeira are there or not. It looks 
> like many are.  Family History Library link below:
> 
> 
> https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/results?count=20&placeId=133722&query=%2Bplace%3A%22Portugal%2C%20Madeira%20(ilha)%22&subjectsOpen=332081-50
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> Marilyn
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 2017-05-16 13:41 GMT-06:00 Marilyn Thompson :
> I just pulled up the catalog. This is the listing for Church Records
> Registros paroquiais, 1538-1911
> Author:   Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Assunção (Funchal, Funchal)
> Add
> Registros paroquiais, 1539-1910
> Author:   Igreja Católica. São Bento (Ribeira Brava, Funchal)
> Add
> Registros paroquiais, 1539-1910
> Author:   Igreja Católica. São Salvador (Santa Cruz, Funchal)
> Add
> Registros paroquiais, 1539-1910
> Author:   Igreja Católica. Santo Antão (Caniço, Funchal)
> Add
> Registros paroquiais, 1539-1914
> Author:   Igreja Católica. Espírito Santo (Calheta, Funchal)
> Add
> Registros paroquiais, 1542-1911
> Author:   Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Natividade (Faial, Funchal)
> Add
> Registros paroquiais, 1557-1950
> Author:   Igreja Católica. Santo António (Santo António, Funchal)
> Add
> Registros paroquiais, 1560-1910
> Author:   Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Luz (Gaula, Funchal)
> Add
> Registros paroquiais, 1562-1911
> Author:   Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Graça (Estreito de Câmara de 
> Lobos, Funchal)
> Add
> Registros paroquiais, 1565-1911
> Author:   Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Luz (Ponta do Sol, Funchal)
> Add
> Registros paroquiais, 1568-1911
> Author:   Igreja Católica. São Gonçalo (São Gonçalo, Funchal)
> Add
> Registros paroquiais, 1568-1911
> Author:   Igreja Católica. São Pedro (Funchal, Funchal)
> Add
> Registros paroquiais, 1568-1911
> Author:   Igreja Católica. Santa Ana (Santana, Funchal)
> Add
> Registros paroquiais, 1570-1910
> Author:   Igreja Católica. São Sebastião (Câmara de Lobos, Funchal)
> Add
> Registros paroquiais, 1571-1910
> Author:   Igreja Católica. Santa Beatriz (Água de Pena, Funchal)
> Add
> Registros paroquiais, 1571-1959
> Author:   Igreja Católica. São João Batista (Fajã da Ovelha, Funchal)
> Add
> Registros paroquiais, 1572-1911
> Author:   Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Conceição (Porto Moniz, 
> Funchal)
> Add
> Registros paroquiais, 1577-1911
> Author:   Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Guadalupe (Porto da Cruz, 
> Funchal)
> Add
> Registros paroquiais, 1577-1911
> Author:   Igreja Católica. Senhor Bom Jesus (Ponta Delgada, Funchal)
> Add
> Registros paroquiais, 1579-1911
> Author:   Igreja Católica. São Martinho (São Martinho, Funchal)
> Add
> Registros paroquiais, 1579-1941
> Author:   Igreja Católica. São João Batista (Fajã da Ovelha, Funchal)
> Add
> Registros paroquiais, 1587-1911
> Author:   Igreja Católica. São Roque (São Roque, Funchal)
> Add
> Registros paroquiais, 1587-1911
> Author:   Igreja Católica. Santíssima Trindade (Tábua, Funchal)
> Add
> Registros paroquiais, 1589-1911
> Author:   Igreja Católica. Santa Maria Madalena (Madalena do Mar, Funchal)
> Add
> Registros paroquiais, 1590-1911
> Author:   Igreja Católica. São Sebastião (Caniçal, Funchal)
> Add
> Registros paroquiais, 1591-1911
> Author:   Igreja Católica. São Vicente (São Vicente

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Madeira research

['Denise' via Azores Genealogy]

Hi Maria Elena, 


Yes there is a Madeira email list like this one. The email is 
prt-made...@rootsweb.com. I believe if you send an email to that address saying 
SUBSCRIBE it should get you on the list. In the meantime, the way Erica 
explained how to view the Madeira films on line at FamilySearch.org is the best 
way of doing it, just follow her instructions. Tombo and the Archivo Regional 
da Madeira are no where near where Family Search is right now. 


There's no need to compare lists, just go to the site that has what you're 
looking for. Not all parishes are available yet but a decent amount are.


Denise D'Antona



-Original Message-
From: Cheri Mello 
To: azores 
Sent: Tue, May 16, 2017 4:07 pm
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Madeira research



It's very clear on Tombo.pt that Madeira is not all there. I don't have the 
time to sit down and compare the records that Tombo.pt is catching from the ABM 
(Madeira's CCA site) to the records that Family Search is doing. I'll leave 
that to someone who researches Madeira. Cheri
On May 16, 2017 12:46 PM, "Marilyn Thompson"  wrote:

If you click on each link then scroll down a little you will see a camera. 
Click on that and the digital images for that time period will come up. 


I have no idea if all of the records for Madeira are there or not. It looks 
like many are.  Family History Library link below:




https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/results?count=20&placeId=133722&query=%2Bplace%3A%22Portugal%2C%20Madeira%20(ilha)%22&subjectsOpen=332081-50



Hope this helps


Marilyn




 



2017-05-16 13:41 GMT-06:00 Marilyn Thompson :

I just pulled up the catalog. This is the listing for Church Records


Registros paroquiais, 1538-1911


Author:
Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Assunção (Funchal, Funchal)


Add


Registros paroquiais, 1539-1910


Author:
Igreja Católica. São Bento (Ribeira Brava, Funchal)


Add


Registros paroquiais, 1539-1910


Author:
Igreja Católica. São Salvador (Santa Cruz, Funchal)


Add


Registros paroquiais, 1539-1910


Author:
Igreja Católica. Santo Antão (Caniço, Funchal)


Add


Registros paroquiais, 1539-1914


Author:
Igreja Católica. Espírito Santo (Calheta, Funchal)


Add


Registros paroquiais, 1542-1911


Author:
Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Natividade (Faial, Funchal)


Add


Registros paroquiais, 1557-1950


Author:
Igreja Católica. Santo António (Santo António, Funchal)


Add


Registros paroquiais, 1560-1910


Author:
Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Luz (Gaula, Funchal)


Add


Registros paroquiais, 1562-1911


Author:
Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Graça (Estreito de Câmara de Lobos, Funchal)


Add


Registros paroquiais, 1565-1911


Author:
Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Luz (Ponta do Sol, Funchal)


Add


Registros paroquiais, 1568-1911


Author:
Igreja Católica. São Gonçalo (São Gonçalo, Funchal)


Add


Registros paroquiais, 1568-1911


Author:
Igreja Católica. São Pedro (Funchal, Funchal)


Add


Registros paroquiais, 1568-1911


Author:
Igreja Católica. Santa Ana (Santana, Funchal)


Add


Registros paroquiais, 1570-1910


Author:
Igreja Católica. São Sebastião (Câmara de Lobos, Funchal)


Add


Registros paroquiais, 1571-1910


Author:
Igreja Católica. Santa Beatriz (Água de Pena, Funchal)


Add


Registros paroquiais, 1571-1959


Author:
Igreja Católica. São João Batista (Fajã da Ovelha, Funchal)


Add


Registros paroquiais, 1572-1911


Author:
Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Conceição (Porto Moniz, Funchal)


Add


Registros paroquiais, 1577-1911


Author:
Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Guadalupe (Porto da Cruz, Funchal)


Add


Registros paroquiais, 1577-1911


Author:
Igreja Católica. Senhor Bom Jesus (Ponta Delgada, Funchal)


Add


Registros paroquiais, 1579-1911


Author:
Igreja Católica. São Martinho (São Martinho, Funchal)


Add


Registros paroquiais, 1579-1941


Author:
Igreja Católica. São João Batista (Fajã da Ovelha, Funchal)


Add


Registros paroquiais, 1587-1911


Author:
Igreja Católica. São Roque (São Roque, Funchal)


Add


Registros paroquiais, 1587-1911


Author:
Igreja Católica. Santíssima Trindade (Tábua, Funchal)


Add


Registros paroquiais, 1589-1911


Author:
Igreja Católica. Santa Maria Madalena (Madalena do Mar, Funchal)


Add


Registros paroquiais, 1590-1911


Author:
Igreja Católica. São Sebastião (Caniçal, Funchal)


Add


Registros paroquiais, 1591-1911


Author:
Igreja Católica. São Vicente (São Vicente, Funchal)


Add


Registros paroquiais, 1592-1911


Author:
Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Piedade (Canhas, Funchal)


Add


Registros paroquiais, 1592-1911


Author:
Igreja Católica. São Brás (Arco da Calheta, Funchal)


Add


Registros paroquiais, 1596-1911


Author:
Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Graça (Estreito da Calheta, Funchal)


Add


Registros paroquiais, 1598-1911


Author:
Igreja Católica. São Brás (Campanário, Funchal)


Add


Registros paroquiais, 1600-1953


Author:
Igreja Católica. Santo Amaro (Paúl do Mar, 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Madeira research

[Cheri Mello]

It's very clear on Tombo.pt that Madeira is not all there. I don't have the
time to sit down and compare the records that Tombo.pt is catching from the
ABM (Madeira's CCA site) to the records that Family Search is doing. I'll
leave that to someone who researches Madeira. Cheri
On May 16, 2017 12:46 PM, "Marilyn Thompson"  wrote:

> If you click on each link then scroll down a little you will see a camera.
> Click on that and the digital images for that time period will come up.
>
> I have no idea if all of the records for Madeira are there or not. It
> looks like many are.  Family History Library link below:
>
>
> https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/results?count=
> 20&placeId=133722&query=%2Bplace%3A%22Portugal%2C%20Madeira%20(ilha)%22&
> subjectsOpen=332081-50
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Marilyn
>
>
>
>
> 2017-05-16 13:41 GMT-06:00 Marilyn Thompson :
>
>> I just pulled up the catalog. This is the listing for Church Records
>>
>>1. Registros paroquiais, 1538-1911
>>
>>Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Assunção (Funchal, Funchal)
>>Add
>>2. Registros paroquiais, 1539-1910
>>
>>Author: Igreja Católica. São Bento (Ribeira Brava, Funchal)
>>Add
>>3. Registros paroquiais, 1539-1910
>>
>>Author: Igreja Católica. São Salvador (Santa Cruz, Funchal)
>>Add
>>4. Registros paroquiais, 1539-1910
>>
>>Author: Igreja Católica. Santo Antão (Caniço, Funchal)
>>Add
>>5. Registros paroquiais, 1539-1914
>>
>>Author: Igreja Católica. Espírito Santo (Calheta, Funchal)
>>Add
>>6. Registros paroquiais, 1542-1911
>>
>>Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Natividade (Faial, Funchal)
>>Add
>>7. Registros paroquiais, 1557-1950
>>
>>Author: Igreja Católica. Santo António (Santo António, Funchal)
>>Add
>>8. Registros paroquiais, 1560-1910
>>
>>Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Luz (Gaula, Funchal)
>>Add
>>9. Registros paroquiais, 1562-1911
>>
>>Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Graça (Estreito de Câmara
>>de Lobos, Funchal)
>>Add
>>10. Registros paroquiais, 1565-1911
>>
>>Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Luz (Ponta do Sol, Funchal)
>>Add
>>11. Registros paroquiais, 1568-1911
>>
>>Author: Igreja Católica. São Gonçalo (São Gonçalo, Funchal)
>>Add
>>12. Registros paroquiais, 1568-1911
>>
>>Author: Igreja Católica. São Pedro (Funchal, Funchal)
>>Add
>>13. Registros paroquiais, 1568-1911
>>
>>Author: Igreja Católica. Santa Ana (Santana, Funchal)
>>Add
>>14. Registros paroquiais, 1570-1910
>>
>>Author: Igreja Católica. São Sebastião (Câmara de Lobos, Funchal)
>>Add
>>15. Registros paroquiais, 1571-1910
>>
>>Author: Igreja Católica. Santa Beatriz (Água de Pena, Funchal)
>>Add
>>16. Registros paroquiais, 1571-1959
>>
>>Author: Igreja Católica. São João Batista (Fajã da Ovelha, Funchal)
>>Add
>>17. Registros paroquiais, 1572-1911
>>
>>Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Conceição (Porto Moniz,
>>Funchal)
>>Add
>>18. Registros paroquiais, 1577-1911
>>
>>Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Guadalupe (Porto da Cruz,
>>Funchal)
>>Add
>>19. Registros paroquiais, 1577-1911
>>
>>Author: Igreja Católica. Senhor Bom Jesus (Ponta Delgada, Funchal)
>>Add
>>20. Registros paroquiais, 1579-1911
>>
>>Author: Igreja Católica. São Martinho (São Martinho, Funchal)
>>Add
>>21. Registros paroquiais, 1579-1941
>>
>>Author: Igreja Católica. São João Batista (Fajã da Ovelha, Funchal)
>>Add
>>22. Registros paroquiais, 1587-1911
>>
>>Author: Igreja Católica. São Roque (São Roque, Funchal)
>>Add
>>23. Registros paroquiais, 1587-1911
>>
>>Author: Igreja Católica. Santíssima Trindade

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Madeira research

[Marilyn Thompson]

If you click on each link then scroll down a little you will see a camera.
Click on that and the digital images for that time period will come up.

I have no idea if all of the records for Madeira are there or not. It looks
like many are.  Family History Library link below:


https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/results?count=20&placeId=133722&query=%2Bplace%3A%22Portugal%2C%20Madeira%20(ilha)%22&subjectsOpen=332081-50

Hope this helps

Marilyn




2017-05-16 13:41 GMT-06:00 Marilyn Thompson :

> I just pulled up the catalog. This is the listing for Church Records
>
>1. Registros paroquiais, 1538-1911
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Assunção (Funchal, Funchal)
>Add
>2. Registros paroquiais, 1539-1910
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. São Bento (Ribeira Brava, Funchal)
>Add
>3. Registros paroquiais, 1539-1910
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. São Salvador (Santa Cruz, Funchal)
>Add
>4. Registros paroquiais, 1539-1910
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. Santo Antão (Caniço, Funchal)
>Add
>5. Registros paroquiais, 1539-1914
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. Espírito Santo (Calheta, Funchal)
>Add
>6. Registros paroquiais, 1542-1911
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Natividade (Faial, Funchal)
>Add
>7. Registros paroquiais, 1557-1950
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. Santo António (Santo António, Funchal)
>Add
>8. Registros paroquiais, 1560-1910
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Luz (Gaula, Funchal)
>Add
>9. Registros paroquiais, 1562-1911
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Graça (Estreito de Câmara de
>Lobos, Funchal)
>Add
>10. Registros paroquiais, 1565-1911
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Luz (Ponta do Sol, Funchal)
>Add
>11. Registros paroquiais, 1568-1911
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. São Gonçalo (São Gonçalo, Funchal)
>Add
>12. Registros paroquiais, 1568-1911
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. São Pedro (Funchal, Funchal)
>Add
>13. Registros paroquiais, 1568-1911
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. Santa Ana (Santana, Funchal)
>Add
>14. Registros paroquiais, 1570-1910
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. São Sebastião (Câmara de Lobos, Funchal)
>Add
>15. Registros paroquiais, 1571-1910
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. Santa Beatriz (Água de Pena, Funchal)
>Add
>16. Registros paroquiais, 1571-1959
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. São João Batista (Fajã da Ovelha, Funchal)
>Add
>17. Registros paroquiais, 1572-1911
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Conceição (Porto Moniz,
>Funchal)
>Add
>18. Registros paroquiais, 1577-1911
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Guadalupe (Porto da Cruz,
>Funchal)
>Add
>19. Registros paroquiais, 1577-1911
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. Senhor Bom Jesus (Ponta Delgada, Funchal)
>Add
>20. Registros paroquiais, 1579-1911
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. São Martinho (São Martinho, Funchal)
>Add
>21. Registros paroquiais, 1579-1941
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. São João Batista (Fajã da Ovelha, Funchal)
>Add
>22. Registros paroquiais, 1587-1911
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. São Roque (São Roque, Funchal)
>Add
>23. Registros paroquiais, 1587-1911
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. Santíssima Trindade (Tábua, Funchal)
>Add
>24. Registros paroquiais, 1589-1911
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. Santa Maria Madalena (Madalena do Mar,
>Funchal)
>Add
>25. Registros paroquiais, 1590-1911
>
>Author: Igreja Católica. São Sebastião (Caniçal, Funchal)
>Add
>26. Registros paroquiais, 1591-1911
>

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Madeira research

[Marilyn Thompson]

I just pulled up the catalog. This is the listing for Church Records

   1. Registros paroquiais, 1538-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Assunção (Funchal, Funchal)
   Add
   2. Registros paroquiais, 1539-1910
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. São Bento (Ribeira Brava, Funchal)
   Add
   3. Registros paroquiais, 1539-1910
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. São Salvador (Santa Cruz, Funchal)
   Add
   4. Registros paroquiais, 1539-1910
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. Santo Antão (Caniço, Funchal)
   Add
   5. Registros paroquiais, 1539-1914
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. Espírito Santo (Calheta, Funchal)
   Add
   6. Registros paroquiais, 1542-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Natividade (Faial, Funchal)
   Add
   7. Registros paroquiais, 1557-1950
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. Santo António (Santo António, Funchal)
   Add
   8. Registros paroquiais, 1560-1910
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Luz (Gaula, Funchal)
   Add
   9. Registros paroquiais, 1562-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Graça (Estreito de Câmara de
   Lobos, Funchal)
   Add
   10. Registros paroquiais, 1565-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Luz (Ponta do Sol, Funchal)
   Add
   11. Registros paroquiais, 1568-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. São Gonçalo (São Gonçalo, Funchal)
   Add
   12. Registros paroquiais, 1568-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. São Pedro (Funchal, Funchal)
   Add
   13. Registros paroquiais, 1568-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. Santa Ana (Santana, Funchal)
   Add
   14. Registros paroquiais, 1570-1910
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. São Sebastião (Câmara de Lobos, Funchal)
   Add
   15. Registros paroquiais, 1571-1910
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. Santa Beatriz (Água de Pena, Funchal)
   Add
   16. Registros paroquiais, 1571-1959
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. São João Batista (Fajã da Ovelha, Funchal)
   Add
   17. Registros paroquiais, 1572-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Conceição (Porto Moniz,
   Funchal)
   Add
   18. Registros paroquiais, 1577-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Guadalupe (Porto da Cruz,
   Funchal)
   Add
   19. Registros paroquiais, 1577-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. Senhor Bom Jesus (Ponta Delgada, Funchal)
   Add
   20. Registros paroquiais, 1579-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. São Martinho (São Martinho, Funchal)
   Add
   21. Registros paroquiais, 1579-1941
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. São João Batista (Fajã da Ovelha, Funchal)
   Add
   22. Registros paroquiais, 1587-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. São Roque (São Roque, Funchal)
   Add
   23. Registros paroquiais, 1587-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. Santíssima Trindade (Tábua, Funchal)
   Add
   24. Registros paroquiais, 1589-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. Santa Maria Madalena (Madalena do Mar, Funchal)
   Add
   25. Registros paroquiais, 1590-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. São Sebastião (Caniçal, Funchal)
   Add
   26. Registros paroquiais, 1591-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. São Vicente (São Vicente, Funchal)
   Add
   27. Registros paroquiais, 1592-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Piedade (Canhas, Funchal)
   Add
   28. Registros paroquiais, 1592-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. São Brás (Arco da Calheta, Funchal)
   Add
   29. Registros paroquiais, 1596-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Graça (Estreito da Calheta,
   Funchal)
   Add
   30. Registros paroquiais, 1598-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. São B

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Madeira research

[Cheri Mello]

I'm not so sure about that.

Tombo.pt shows only 975 Madeira records digitized by the Madeiran
government so far, with more to go. Family Search has 50? Someone needs to
sit down and compare the two. Are they counting books? Parishes? Or what?

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 12:16 PM, Erica Botelho <
audiosource...@qwestoffice.net> wrote:

> Familysearch.com has just digitized almost all of their Madeira records.
> You can access them through searching their "catalog". Type in the place
> "Madeira, Portugal" and "search".  Then choose the option of "church
> records - 50 items".  This will bring you to a list of all of the
> freguesias of Madeira.  Pick your freguesia and click on it. That will
> bring up a list of all the records they have.  If the icon to the right is
> a camera, then you can click on that link and look through them.  If the
> icon is a film reel, then those records are not uploaded to the internet
> yet and only available through ordering them directly.
> If you have any other questions, you can email me directly  audiosourceinc
> at qwestoffice.net
> Erica Botelho
>
> -Original Message-
> From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Maria Lima
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 8:49 AM
> To: AZORES
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Madeira research
>
> A friend asked me for help on his wife's Madeira ancestry. I'd like to
> help with reading the records for them but I'm not sure the records are
> online like the Azores.  I'm not even sure yet if there's more than one
> island - sorry to admit in public - I'm just starting to explore how I can
> help them.
>
> Is there an equivalent list for Madeira like this one?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Maria Elena
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Madeira research

[Maria Lima]

Wow Erica!!  Thank you.  Now I'm really eager to help this person with their 
research.  Great to know records are online.  Sweet news

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 16, 2017, at 2:16 PM, Erica Botelho  
> wrote:
> 
> Familysearch.com has just digitized almost all of their Madeira records.  You 
> can access them through searching their "catalog". Type in the place 
> "Madeira, Portugal" and "search".  Then choose the option of "church records 
> - 50 items".  This will bring you to a list of all of the freguesias of 
> Madeira.  Pick your freguesia and click on it. That will bring up a list of 
> all the records they have.  If the icon to the right is a camera, then you 
> can click on that link and look through them.  If the icon is a film reel, 
> then those records are not uploaded to the internet yet and only available 
> through ordering them directly.
> If you have any other questions, you can email me directly  audiosourceinc at 
> qwestoffice.net
> Erica Botelho
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Maria Lima
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 8:49 AM
> To: AZORES
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Madeira research
> 
> A friend asked me for help on his wife's Madeira ancestry. I'd like to help 
> with reading the records for them but I'm not sure the records are online 
> like the Azores.  I'm not even sure yet if there's more than one island - 
> sorry to admit in public - I'm just starting to explore how I can help them. 
> 
> Is there an equivalent list for Madeira like this one? 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Maria Elena 
> 
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Madeira research

[Erica Botelho]

Familysearch.com has just digitized almost all of their Madeira records.  You 
can access them through searching their "catalog". Type in the place "Madeira, 
Portugal" and "search".  Then choose the option of "church records - 50 items". 
 This will bring you to a list of all of the freguesias of Madeira.  Pick your 
freguesia and click on it. That will bring up a list of all the records they 
have.  If the icon to the right is a camera, then you can click on that link 
and look through them.  If the icon is a film reel, then those records are not 
uploaded to the internet yet and only available through ordering them directly.
If you have any other questions, you can email me directly  audiosourceinc at 
qwestoffice.net
Erica Botelho

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From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Maria Lima
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 8:49 AM
To: AZORES
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Madeira research

A friend asked me for help on his wife's Madeira ancestry. I'd like to help 
with reading the records for them but I'm not sure the records are online like 
the Azores.  I'm not even sure yet if there's more than one island - sorry to 
admit in public - I'm just starting to explore how I can help them. 

Is there an equivalent list for Madeira like this one? 

Thanks,

Maria Elena 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Release of CCA records 1906-1910 for Sao Miguel

[Cheri Mello]

Yes, however Joao lives on Terceira and probably has to collect enough
requests to make it worth his while to go over there. I also put in a
request to Joao, so now he has at least 2 from Sao Miguel!

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 10:49 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
wrote:

> Andrew, unless you are planning a trip to the Azores you will have to hire
> a researcher to do the research for you. You can go to the Azores GenWeb
> site at: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/index.html and look for
> the list that Kathy has of researchers for hire. Personally I have Joao
> Ventura, who lived in Terceira, do searches for me. He is very reliable.
>
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 5:27 PM, Andrew Medeiros 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Cheri for responding to my post.  This is extremely frustrating.
>> Not sure how to access these records unless I physically visit the islands.
>>
>> On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 4:50:52 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
>>> The archive in Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel island only scanned their
>>> records to 1905 or so. Not all were scanned to 1910/1911. The CCA considers
>>> the genealogy project done and have moved on to other historical things on
>>> the islands. :(
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 1:46 PM, Andrew Medeiros 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hello Everyone,

 My name is Andrew Medeiros.  I currently reside in Rhode Island and I
 just joined your group today.  I am currently doing research for my family
 who originated on Sao Miguel, specifically I have been looking at Ribeira
 Grande.  Does anyone know when CCA will be releasing the records for
 1906-1910?  I really need to be able to research these years as I do not
 know the exact parish and date of a wedding that occurred around this time.
   If not, anyone know how I could contact them to find out?

 Thanks,
 Andrew

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: LAST NAME OF GROOM's FATHER

[JR]

If you want to standardize names, then it should be Velho, as Velha is the 
feminine application. Today, except for names which are inherently 
feminine, like Rosa on the Island Faial, only one version is used and it is 
Velho. In their time, Maria and Barbara used Velha. It is up to you how you 
want to log this information so long as you record the the correct 
historical spelling somewhere in your notes.

JR



On Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 10:04:51 AM UTC-4, Maria wrote:
>
> JR- thanks for the info and also on the accents- I had started getting 
> fancy adding accents but fortunately, I usually forget, so I will not any 
> more.  
>
> So I'm asking would the woman be VELHA and the man VELHO?
>
> Thanks so much for taking the time. 
>
> Maria Elena 
>
> On May 16, 2017, at 8:27 AM, JR > wrote:
>
> You have it right. It is Francisco Paxequo (Pacheco) fo. de Manoel da 
> Graca ja defunto...
>
> I always use the modern spellings within reason. This makes it easier for 
> your program to find a name when doing a search. Of course you can and 
> should put the correct historical spelling in the notes section; that is 
> where you place your transcription of the record. Some programs allow you 
> to index names starting with first names, and that is method well suited 
> for Portuguese names. I only realized this when Margaret V. brought it to 
> my attention. 
>
> One other thing to consider is accents. Yes it is nice to be accurate and 
> use Portuguese accents. However, I have had nothing but problems when 
> trying to create Gedcoms and reloading to a new or updated program. They 
> often come out as coded gibberish- sometimes to the point where I can't 
> recognize what the name actually was. I won't go through that again and 
> risk corrupting my entire database. So I use plain alphanumerical lettering 
> in all my records.
>
> JR
>
> On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 8:34:10 PM UTC-4, Maria wrote:
>>
>> Right side. 2nd record down 
>>
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-C-1681-1699/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-C-1681-1699_item1/P14.html
>>
>> Third line down-  is the groom's father's last name Da Graco (d'Agrela?). 
>>
>> Also had a question on the name VELHA.  Is it Velho for men and Velha for 
>> women.  How would you enter it in the program?  Would you make them all 
>> Velho(?) 
>>
>> Thank you for looking at this😀
>>
>> Maria Elena 
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: LAST NAME OF GROOM's FATHER

[Cheri Mello]

An "a" is feminine or female and an "o" is masculine or male. So Velho or
Pacheco are on men's names and Velha or Pacheca are on women's names.

With the diacritics (José, Conceição) you have to export it as ANSI or
ANSEL. João who does the computer programming and the Tombo.pt  site can
probably explain better.

Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: LAST NAME OF GROOM's FATHER

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

JR,
I totally agree with you on the modern spellings. I think that some of the
priests sat there and tried to think of different ways to spell some of
those names! I use the modern spelling all of the time and put the actual
transcription spelling in my note sections. I've never tried to put in the
accents because I'm never sure about them and I've seen how they get messed
 up when you try to make a GEDCOM or transfer from one program to another.


Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 6:27 AM, JR  wrote:

> You have it right. It is Francisco Paxequo (Pacheco) fo. de Manoel da
> Graca ja defunto...
>
> I always use the modern spellings within reason. This makes it easier for
> your program to find a name when doing a search. Of course you can and
> should put the correct historical spelling in the notes section; that is
> where you place your transcription of the record. Some programs allow you
> to index names starting with first names, and that is method well suited
> for Portuguese names. I only realized this when Margaret V. brought it to
> my attention.
>
> One other thing to consider is accents. Yes it is nice to be accurate and
> use Portuguese accents. However, I have had nothing but problems when
> trying to create Gedcoms and reloading to a new or updated program. They
> often come out as coded gibberish- sometimes to the point where I can't
> recognize what the name actually was. I won't go through that again and
> risk corrupting my entire database. So I use plain alphanumerical lettering
> in all my records.
>
> JR
>
> On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 8:34:10 PM UTC-4, Maria wrote:
>>
>> Right side. 2nd record down
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-
>> ASSUNCAO-C-1681-1699/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-C-1681-1699_item1/P14.html
>>
>> Third line down-  is the groom's father's last name Da Graco (d'Agrela?).
>>
>> Also had a question on the name VELHA.  Is it Velho for men and Velha for
>> women.  How would you enter it in the program?  Would you make them all
>> Velho(?)
>>
>> Thank you for looking at this😀
>>
>> Maria Elena
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: LAST NAME OF GROOM's FATHER

[Maria Lima]

JR- thanks for the info and also on the accents- I had started getting fancy 
adding accents but fortunately, I usually forget, so I will not any more.  

So I'm asking would the woman be VELHA and the man VELHO?

Thanks so much for taking the time. 

Maria Elena 

> On May 16, 2017, at 8:27 AM, JR  wrote:
> 
> You have it right. It is Francisco Paxequo (Pacheco) fo. de Manoel da Graca 
> ja defunto...
> 
> I always use the modern spellings within reason. This makes it easier for 
> your program to find a name when doing a search. Of course you can and should 
> put the correct historical spelling in the notes section; that is where you 
> place your transcription of the record. Some programs allow you to index 
> names starting with first names, and that is method well suited for 
> Portuguese names. I only realized this when Margaret V. brought it to my 
> attention. 
> 
> One other thing to consider is accents. Yes it is nice to be accurate and use 
> Portuguese accents. However, I have had nothing but problems when trying to 
> create Gedcoms and reloading to a new or updated program. They often come out 
> as coded gibberish- sometimes to the point where I can't recognize what the 
> name actually was. I won't go through that again and risk corrupting my 
> entire database. So I use plain alphanumerical lettering in all my records.
> 
> JR
> 
>> On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 8:34:10 PM UTC-4, Maria wrote:
>> Right side. 2nd record down 
>> 
>> 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-C-1681-1699/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-C-1681-1699_item1/P14.html
>> 
>> Third line down-  is the groom's father's last name Da Graco (d'Agrela?). 
>> 
>> Also had a question on the name VELHA.  Is it Velho for men and Velha for 
>> women.  How would you enter it in the program?  Would you make them all 
>> Velho(?) 
>> 
>> Thank you for looking at this😀
>> 
>> Maria Elena 
> 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: LAST NAME OF GROOM's FATHER

[JR]

You have it right. It is Francisco Paxequo (Pacheco) fo. de Manoel da Graca 
ja defunto...

I always use the modern spellings within reason. This makes it easier for 
your program to find a name when doing a search. Of course you can and 
should put the correct historical spelling in the notes section; that is 
where you place your transcription of the record. Some programs allow you 
to index names starting with first names, and that is method well suited 
for Portuguese names. I only realized this when Margaret V. brought it to 
my attention. 

One other thing to consider is accents. Yes it is nice to be accurate and 
use Portuguese accents. However, I have had nothing but problems when 
trying to create Gedcoms and reloading to a new or updated program. They 
often come out as coded gibberish- sometimes to the point where I can't 
recognize what the name actually was. I won't go through that again and 
risk corrupting my entire database. So I use plain alphanumerical lettering 
in all my records.

JR

On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 8:34:10 PM UTC-4, Maria wrote:
>
> Right side. 2nd record down 
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-C-1681-1699/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-C-1681-1699_item1/P14.html
>
> Third line down-  is the groom's father's last name Da Graco (d'Agrela?). 
>
> Also had a question on the name VELHA.  Is it Velho for men and Velha for 
> women.  How would you enter it in the program?  Would you make them all 
> Velho(?) 
>
> Thank you for looking at this😀
>
> Maria Elena 
>

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