Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Feliz Natal / Boas Festas thread (use this one only)

[Edna Epps]

I want to wish you all a very Merry Christmas and a Happy 2018!   Thank you all 
for the help on this site and through the years.   I can’t be as active as I 
was but hopefully 2018 will be a better year! 
God Bless all of you,
Edna 
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Without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must 
believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.
(Hebrews 11:6)

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Where is Ueselinen, Azores?

[Edna Epps]

There is a village named Urzalina on Sao Jorge, very near to Velas.
Edna

> On Dec 4, 2017, at 5:18 PM, Theresa Entin  wrote:
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] *** UPPEC Death Records Database added to Azores GenWeb

[Edna Epps]

Thank you Kathy!I haven’t searched these yet but I plan to do so.;)   I’ve 
been working on the Sao Jorge Marriages  which is quite a project and also very 
helpful!
Edna Lemos Epps
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believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.
(Hebrews 11:6)

On Sep 24, 2017, at 9:49 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci  wrote:

Wow,Kathy, this is great!!! Already found my Mom and my grandmother! Hopefully 
will be able to find some of those aunts who are hiding!! LOL 


Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 7:20 PM, Kathy Cardoza > wrote:
Hi Everyone

I have added a database of U.P.P.E.C. Death Records to the Azores GenWeb. This 
information was contributed by a person wishing to remain anonymous, but is 
being shared to anyone who is interested in it. The U.P.P.E.C. is another 
fraternal society that operated in California, beginning in the late 1800s. 
These records are a gold mine of information.

They contain a lot of information! So much, in fact, that each record stretches 
over four images/screens. So, be aware that, for each record you are looking 
at, you should take note of its ID Number to follow it into the other pages 
that contain additional info on it. This is what you will find in these records:

Page 1 for each record:
ID number
Claim Number
Policy Number
Last Name, First Name, Middle Name
Month, Day, Year of death
Age at death
Place died

Page 2 for each record:
ID number
Birth date and place
Father
Mother
Council Number

Page 3 for each record:
ID number
Cause of death
Mortuary
Cemetery

Page 4 for each record:
ID number
Contact info
Certificate (cert # indicates that a certificate was filed when the person 
died. That certificate was included in the person's file folder)


Enjoy and happy hunting!
Kathy Cardoza
Coordinator, Azores GenWeb

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Off subject: FTM

[Edna Epps]

I agree with JR.   So far, MacKiev has been very helpful and I don’t think 
you’ll have a problem.   I like it as I can now use FTM on my MAC, PC and 
laptop and can syn them all together!!   That is very helpful to me.;)

♥Edna 
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compassion. For the Lord is a God of justice. Blessed are all who wait for Him".

On Aug 20, 2017, at 11:36 AM, 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:

Thanks JR.  I will do that.  Right now I’m too frustrated but; in a couple of 
days, I’ll do it.  
 
Sam (Camas, WA)
 
From: JR 
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 11:25 AM
To: Azores Genealogy 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Off subject: FTM
 
I would contact MacKiev by email and have them check your status. If you bought 
in the right period, as I did, you should be getting a "free" upgrade to latest 
that interfaces with Ancestry.com. It depends on when you purchased the update.
 
JR

On Sunday, August 20, 2017 at 1:22:45 PM UTC-4, Sam (Camas, WA) wrote:
Theresa, Nancy, Pam & Cheri;  Thanks much for trying to help me with my FTM 
issue.  I think I’ve figured it out with your help.  It seems when I ordered 
the MacKiev version of FTM, It was about Dec or so in 2016, I thought I was 
ordering the new version but; apparently they put out some kind of interim 
version which does not connect online.  It cost $39.95 for previous FTM users 
and I purchase a license for multiple computers.  I would now have to pay an 
additional $39.95 to get the new version that does connect to the internet.  
I’m feeling very annoyed about all this and think I may just give up on FTM, 
bite the bullet and learn to use  Rootsmagic 7 which I purchased when I first 
heard about Ancestry no longer supporting FTM.
 
Thanks again for everyone’s help,
 
Sam (Camas, WA)
 
From: Theresa Entin 
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 5:11 AM
To: 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Off subject: FTM
 
When I installed the new Family Tree Maker 2017, I thought it just over wrote 
my old program. It didn’t, it installs a new version with a different logo.  I 
tried for awhile to get my old program to connect with Ancestry.  I finally 
realized I had to look for the new version and use it.  Worked perfectly once I 
used the 2017 version with the navy icon. 
 
On Aug 19, 2017, at 8:05 PM, 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:
 
Cheri and all, I apologize in advance for being off topic, i.e. genealogy, but; 
I am at my wits end.  I’ve installed the new McAfee FTM and now I can’t get FTM 
to go online.  I am connected to the internet as I can go online and I’ve 
disabled my firewalls but; I still can’t get online via FTM.  Any ideas?
 
Heartfelt thanks for your help with this,
 
Sam (Camas, WA)
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] ***** New Indexes added to Azores GenWeb

[Edna Epps]

Well said Rosemarie!   We must be cousins!!;) lol


❤ Edna 
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Titus 2:3-4
 3 Older women likewise are to be reverent in their behavior, <>not malicious 
gossips nor  <>enslaved to much wine, teaching what is good, 4so that they may  
<>encourage the young women to love their husbands, to lovetheir children,

On Aug 15, 2017, at 6:07 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci  wrote:

Tammy,
I'm thrilled to see your index on Kathy's site! It, hopefully,will help me 
trace the children of my families through their children's  marriages. I know 
that you did it for your own use but it's great that you are willing to share 
it with others. I know that we need to double check info because, as we all 
know, we are human and we don't all see the records as clearly as another may! 
I have to double check everything all of the time and sometimes when I go back 
and look again, I wonder how I ever thought I had it right! LOL Anyway, it's 
certainly a starting place. 

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com 
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 12:11 PM, Tammy Jesso > wrote:
As the person who provided the indexes for Graciosa. I will say this, indexes 
should only be used as a guide. I made these for my own personal use and 
thought others could benefit from them. I'm not offended by your words. Just 
thought I should respond :0)

Tammy Jesso


On Aug 15, 2017, at 2:01 PM, Margaret Vicente > wrote:

> Kathy and Rosemarie,
> 
> I don't think there is any need to go on the defensive and I'm not here to 
> make suggestions on anyone's work.  It was a mere heads up.
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> Margaret
> 
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 15, 2017, at 12:14 PM, Kathy Andrade Cardoza  > wrote:
> 
>> No, in a perfect world, tools such as these indexes would be perfect with no 
>> inaccurate information no stumbling blocks, as you say. I have no real 
>> control over the accuracy of any material that is submitted to me. That 
>> includes previously published work and websitesI don't know the skill and 
>> abilities of the person doing the work. All I do know is that someone did 
>> the work and is willing to share it with others, like you. to be 
>> helpful. I have every reason to think that these submissions will be helpful 
>> to most people.
>> 
>> Perhaps you should make your suggestions to the person who did the work?
>> 
>> Kathy
>> 
>> On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 8:52:23 AM UTC-7, Mara wrote:
>> Personally I think tools should not mislead nor be a stumbling block for the 
>> newbie, but it's your call, Kathy.  
>> 
>> And thank you for taking the time to respond.
>> 
>> Margaret.
>> 
>> On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 11:43 AM, Kathy Cardoza > wrote:
>> Margaret
>> 
>> I honestly don’t know the answer to your question. The indexes were 
>> submitted to me and they were put on the Azores GenWeb as a TOOL to help 
>> researchers. I would use them as just that, a tool or aid to finding your 
>> ancestors. If there are errors, I’m sorry there are. But, honestly, most 
>> indexes, many online, have errors in them. Thank you for pointing it out.
>> 
>> Kathy
>> ~~~
>> Visit the Azores GenWeb Project:
>>  http://www.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/index.html 
>> 
>> ~~~
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 15, 2017, at 8:27 AM, Margaret Vicente > 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Kathy,
>>> 
>>> Thank you for the links.  I can imagine how much work was put into this but 
>>> sorry for asking, were these indexes edited by someone who could proof for 
>>> errors? 
>>> 
>>> I looked at the first and 2nd marriage record for Maia and the surname of 
>>> the bride is incorrect. The brinde on the first record is Francisca da 
>>> Ponte and the groom on the 2nd record is Manuel Pacheco, not Coelho.  same 
>>> for the Groom's father.
>>> 
>>> Sorry but I thought you might like to know, since it's your webpage.
>>> 
>>> Take care,
>>> Margaret 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 12:49 AM, Kathy Cardoza > wrote:
>>> Hi Everyone
>>> 
>>> I’ve added some new material to the Azores GenWeb. I hope you’ll find it 
>>> helpful.!
>>> 
>>> Praia, Graciosa::
>>> Baptism (1754-1911) and Marriages (1791-1911) Indexes   
>>> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/maps-churches-and-villages/graciosa/graciosa-indexes.html
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Lomba da Maia, Sao Miguel:
>>> Baptisms (1833-1905) and Marriages (1835-1905)  
>>> 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] ***** New Indexes added to Azores GenWeb

[Edna Epps]

Thanks Tammy!  Anything that may help lessen the time spent going through 
records is appreciated.   I feel that anything I find online, I need to check 
out for myself to be sure that the information is correct.   We all can make 
error, especially with the different priest’s handwriting and the quality of 
the records at times.   Thank you for your work and the help for us.

Edna 
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e...@comcast.net
Lord, give me strength for this day's task,
Not for tomorrow would I ask;
At twilight hour, oh, may I say,
"The Lord has been my guide today.
 
[Nillingham]



On Aug 15, 2017, at 4:40 PM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:

Thank you for sharing your indices with us. Indices are invaluable, but they 
are compiled by human beings who are not infallible. The indices do provide us 
with "shortcuts", that is, based on the information provided we can quickly go 
to the records and verify the accuracy of the information provided in the 
index. For me they are an invaluable tool. Even Ernesto do Canto, the father of 
Azorean index compilers, made transcription errors in dates, names, places or 
origin, etc. Still, whenever possible I turn to him as a starting guide. You've 
done us a great service. Thank you.

John Miranda Raposo


On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 6:51 PM, Tammy Jesso  
wrote:


As the person who provided the indexes for Graciosa. I will say this, indexes 
should only be used as a guide. I made these for my own personal use and 
thought others could benefit from them. I'm not offended by your words. Just 
thought I should respond :0)

Tammy Jesso


On Aug 15, 2017, at 2:01 PM, Margaret Vicente > wrote:


Kathy and Rosemarie,

I don't think there is any need to go on the defensive and I'm not here to make 
suggestions on anyone's work.  It was a mere heads up.

Cheers.

Margaret

 

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 15, 2017, at 12:14 PM, Kathy Andrade Cardoza > wrote:

> No, in a perfect world, tools such as these indexes would be perfect with no 
> inaccurate information no stumbling blocks, as you say. I have no real 
> control over the accuracy of any material that is submitted to me. That 
> includes previously published work and websitesI don't know the skill and 
> abilities of the person doing the work. All I do know is that someone did the 
> work and is willing to share it with others, like you. to be helpful. I 
> have every reason to think that these submissions will be helpful to most 
> people.
> 
> Perhaps you should make your suggestions to the person who did the work?
> 
> Kathy
> 
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 8:52:23 AM UTC-7, Mara wrote:
> Personally I think tools should not mislead nor be a stumbling block for the 
> newbie, but it's your call, Kathy.  
> 
> And thank you for taking the time to respond.
> 
> Margaret.
> 
> On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 11:43 AM, Kathy Cardoza  > wrote:
> Margaret
> 
> I honestly don’t know the answer to your question. The indexes were submitted 
> to me and they were put on the Azores GenWeb as a TOOL to help researchers. I 
> would use them as just that, a tool or aid to finding your ancestors. If 
> there are errors, I’m sorry there are. But, honestly, most indexes, many 
> online, have errors in them. Thank you for pointing it out.
> 
> Kathy
> ~~ ~~ ~~~
> Visit the Azores GenWeb Project:
>   http://www.rootsweb.com/~ azrwgw/index.html 
> 
> ~~ ~~ ~~~
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 15, 2017, at 8:27 AM, Margaret Vicente > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Kathy,
>> 
>> Thank you for the links.  I can imagine how much work was put into this but 
>> sorry for asking, were these indexes edited by someone who could proof for 
>> errors? 
>> 
>> I looked at the first and 2nd marriage record for Maia and the surname of 
>> the bride is incorrect. The brinde on the first record is Francisca da Ponte 
>> and the groom on the 2nd record is Manuel Pacheco, not Coelho.  same for the 
>> Groom's father.
>> 
>> Sorry but I thought you might like to know, since it's your webpage.
>> 
>> Take care,
>> Margaret 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 12:49 AM, Kathy Cardoza > > wrote:
>> Hi Everyone
>> 
>> I’ve added some new material to the Azores GenWeb. I hope you’ll find it 
>> helpful.!
>> 
>> Praia, Graciosa::
>> Baptism (1754-1911) and Marriages (1791-1911) Indexes   http://www.rootsweb. 
>> ancestry.com/~azrwgw/maps- churches-and-villages/ 
>> graciosa/graciosa-indexes.html 
>> 
>> 
>> Lomba da Maia, Sao Miguel:
>> Baptisms (1833-1905) and Marriages (1835-1905)  
>> 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Happy Easter - Feliz Pascoa thread

[Edna Epps]

I too want to wish everyone a very Happy Easter!!
Edna
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Always do right. There is more at stake than you might think.

On Apr 15, 2017, at 7:32 PM, Emil  wrote:

Happy Easter to all my Genealogy Cousins and Friends, and may we all connect 
this year.

Emil

From: "'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy" 
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 4:21:28 PM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Happy Easter - Feliz Pascoa thread


Good for you, Mary.  I bought the massa sevada at the Portuguese bakery!  Happy 
Easter everyone,, no matter how you got the great bread to eat for Easter.
Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com


On Sat, 4/15/17, Mary Bordi  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Happy Easter - Feliz Pascoa thread
 To: azores@googlegroups.com
 Date: Saturday, April 15, 2017, 11:18 AM
 
 Happy Easter all! 
 
 I managed to bake some Easter bread this year. Wish I could
 share it will everyone!
 
 Mary
 On Sat,
 Apr 15, 2017 at 8:26 AM Cheri Mello 
 wrote:
 Happy
 Easter and Feliz Pascoa to all!
 
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 reply and respond to this thread ONLY. Do NOT start your own
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 Sunday. If it's Monday in your time zone, you are too
 late. The Easter greeting thread will be done by then.
 Thanks, Cheri
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 Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca,
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Got my book

[Edna Epps]

  I got my book yesterday!
Edna Lemos Epps
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Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding;
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Faria from the Azores

[Edna Epps]

OK Sami, now we have to figure how you and I connect!   I looked some tonight 
with what you posted but … still looking.;)

Edna 
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what is right. (Psalm 106:3)



On Feb 17, 2017, at 2:35 PM, Sami  wrote:

I just wanted to post an update: As of last night, I found Manuel and his 
family This has been 3 years of digging. I'm so excited! He and his family 
were from Capelo, Faial. His father was Antonio Pereira GOULART; mother was 
Maria Angelica do Coracao de Jesus. I am now trying to connect him from his 
birthplace in Capelo to where he lived for a little over 40 years in 
California, and then back to Capelo where he died. I'm having no luck finding 
passports, naturalization papers, etc. on him so the search continues. I have 
someone looking up his death record for me so hope to find more there! On to 
the ENOS/ENES VARGAS possibly DIAS side next! Thanks to everyone who responded. 
If anyone has Manuel and/or any of his family members in your family and have 
pictures, PLEASE contact me! 

On Wednesday, February 8, 2017 at 9:57:11 PM UTC-6, Cheri Mello wrote:
Repost for Sami, saudade1264 at gmail.com 
My grandfather was Portuguese, and his father was from the Azores. My 
great-grandmother's family as well was from the Azores. I have been trying to 
find out specifically which Azores island they are from. I am hoping someone 
may recognize a name or two from the information I have gathered these past few 
years. 

Here's what I have...

My maternal grandfather: Lawrence Daniel FARIA, born 5 June 1907 in 
Martinez/Richmond, Contra Costa Co. CA; died 18 Nov 1961 in San Pablo. I have 
his WWII draft card and headstone application.

My great grandfather: Manuel P. (Pereira?) FARIA born in the Azores 1877. His 
WWI draft card says January. A census says Feb. His year of immigration is 
either 1894 or 1895. The earliest census I have from 1900 has him newly married 
and living in Port Costa. From 1910 until 1930, they lived in Richmond, Contra 
Costa Co. CA. In the 1930 census, he isn't listed, but someone named "John S." 
is, and is the same age Manuel would be. His occupation was as a laborer in an 
oil refinery (Standard Oil?) I can find no record of him immigrating, and no 
death record. It's like he just disappeared.

My great grandmother: Emma ENOS born in California 12 July 1880; died 30 Sep 
1957 in Santa Clara, but was brought back to be buried at St. Joseph's in San 
Pablo, Contra Costa. I believe her parents were John ENOS (VARGAS) born 
abt.1841; immigrated either in 1860 or 1868, lived in Concord, Contra Costa 
County and is a farmer; and a woman named Emma VARGAS. They were married about 
1870.

>From my great grandmother Emma's obit, I was able to get the names of her 
>siblings, and they are present with this couple in several census reports. 
>Emma's siblings include:
Joseph b. abt. 1873
Mary L. (DUTRA) b. abt. 1874 d. 1957? of Concord
Annie b. abt. 1882
Theresa (NUNES) b. abt. 1884 of Concord
Manuel b. abt. 1885
Frank b. abt. 1887 of Concord
Angie (MESQUITA) b. abt. 1889 d. 1972
Aggie; nickname for Agnes (BENZ) b. abt. 1892
Evelyn (MCDERMOTT) b. abt. 1897 d.1966

In a census report, John and Emma state they had 14 children, 13 who were 
living- so I don't know where the others are listed. These are all I could find.

My great-grandparents Emma and Manuel had the following children (besides my 
grandfather Lawrence):
Manuel G. (wife TAMBLYN) b. 1902 d. 1976 in San Pablo
Evelyn Mary (KELLY/BLODGETT) b. 1909 d.1989 in Washington
John H. b. abt. 1914
Anthony P. b. abt. 1914 d. 2004
Philomena (DAVIS) b.1915 d. 1936 in El Cerrito
Margaret M. (BETTENCOURT) b. abt. 1917 
Frances Patricia (ELLWANGER) b. abt.1919 d. 1987 in Santa Clara
Rose Ann (ATKINSON) b. abt.1921 d. 2000 in San Pablo

If anyone knows any of these people or someone who does; knows of any living 
descendants who keep good records; or anything about any of them- PLEASE 
contact me! Thank you all so much for any help received!


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Organization of the Azores for genealogical searching

[Edna Epps]

Thanks for this Cheri!

Edna 
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what is right. (Psalm 106:3)



On Feb 5, 2017, at 2:53 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

Since we have many new to this list (and for those wanting a review), I will 
explain how the Azores are organized so you'll know where to look.

The Azores are an autonomous region of Portugal, comprised of 9 islands: Santa 
Maria, Sao Miguel, Terceira, Graciosa, Sao Jorge, Pico, Faial, Flores, and 
Corvo. The Madeira islands (Madeira and Porto Santo) are a separate autonomous 
region of Portugal and are not part of the Azores archipelago. Neither are the 
Cape Verde islands, which is their own nation today.

The 9 Azores islands are divided into 3 districts or administrative zones:
Ponta Delgada (eastern) comprised of Sao Miguel and Santa Maria islands (Sao 
Miguel holds about half the Azores population).
Angra do Herisomo (central) comprised of Terceira, Graciosa, and Sao Jorge 
(Terceira is the 2nd most populous island).
Horta (western) comprised of Pico, Faial, Flores and Corvo.

Each island may have one or more councils. They are similar to American 
counties (not sure what Canadians have that is similar).
Santa Maria island has Vila do Porto
Sao Miguel island has Lagoa, Nordeste, Ponta Delgada, Povoacao, Ribeira Grande, 
and Vila Franca do Campo
Terceira island has Angra do Heroismo and Praia da Vitoria
Graciosa island has Santa Cruz da Graciosa
Sao Jorge island has Calheta and Velas
Faial island has Horta
Pico island has Lajes do Pico, Madalena, and Sao Roque do PIco
Flores island has Lajes das Flores and Santa Cruz das Flores
Corvo has Vila Nova

Within each council are the freguesias (fregh (rhymes with Greg) - Z- ahs). 
They are the villages.

That's a brief summary of how the Azores are organized.
Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CCA Down

[Edna Epps]

I just sent them an email.  Thank you for letting us know and for the address.;)

Edna
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On Jan 16, 2017, at 5:07 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

Ahem, it would be nice that a dozen or so people email the CCA and let them 
know that the server is down. The CCA is on Terceira island. The server is on 
Sao Miguel island. They don't always know when it's down. It's miles and miles 
apart.

One person emails them. They think "one person." They have a dozen people email 
them and they realize that there are lots and lots of people using their site 
and only a fraction of those people let them know.

Their email address: drac@azores.gov.pt 

Always let them know that you are really thankful, really appreciate, yada yada 
yada, the service that they provide. Then let them know that you are getting 
that error screen.

Angela L, the LDS Church negotiated with the government and went to the Azores 
in the early to mid-1980s and filmed all the records that were available at 
that time (1870s or 1880s. Varies by freguesia). At that time, they used the 
name "Genealogy Society of Utah." So the microfilm goes up to about 1883 or 
1884 or so, but not in all locations. You'd have to go to your local FHC and 
see what film they may have for your freguesias and you'd have to order what 
film(s) you plan on utilizing. You can do it for short term or permanent load.

Cheri

Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Ângela Loura > wrote:
Are the CCA records available in microfilm in the Church of Jesus Christ of 
Latter-day saints?

2017-01-16 17:25 GMT+00:00 Tish M >:
João, thank you for your input. You are so right. The down time for CCA should 
not make CCA so discredited. They are doing a great service. We are living in a 
society where everyone is so impatient. Does it really matter if you are unable 
to look something up for a day, or two? I also agree, Familysearch has the 
resources, but for the Azores to give away the data would not only mean nobody 
would go to CCA, but would reduce CCA as a resource for tourism and revenue. 
Why do you think the Portuguese are offering citizenships with so little 
commitment to the people who apply (revenue)? I am not writing this in 
criticism of Portugal, it's just the climate of small governments around the 
world at this time.

Tish 

On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 8:38 AM, João Ventura > wrote:
Victor,

The "cloud" is not free... And while I do agree that on principle it would make 
sense, the truth is that the thing that's REALLY expensive on the cloud is 
storage. You can get Amazon Web Services to scale easily the number of servers, 
but telling that each of those servers would have to be able to store and 
replicate several Terabytes of data would probably consume the budget for the 
whole archipelago quite fast.

And it doesn't make sense to have several servers all going to the same storage 
server wherever they store all those images.

Things that would make sense:
1. Allowing Familysearch to serve those images (pros: free, and no work 
necessary; cons: nobody would use the CCA servers ever again).
2. See 1., to be honest.

João Ventura
https://tombo.pt/en 

On Saturday, 14 January 2017 19:10:58 UTC+1, Victor Soares wrote:
They should load all that data up on the cloud to be fault tolerant. Likely 
cheaper and less of a maintenance hassle for the CCA admins. 
On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 09:42 Ângela Loura > wrote:
Contacts:

drac.i...@azores.gov.pt <>
drac...@azores.gov.pt <> 

2017-01-14 17:35 GMT+00:00 Richard Francis Pimentel >:
CCA seems to have gone down this morning around 10:00 am EST. As of now it is 
still down.

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CCA Down

[Edna Epps]

Joao, is the CCA just down “”temporarily”?   I have been trying to get on for a 
couple days now.   I may have missed something here on the list as I don’t 
always have time to read.

Thanks,

Edna Epps
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On Jan 16, 2017, at 8:38 AM, João Ventura <j...@venturas.org> wrote:

Victor,

The "cloud" is not free... And while I do agree that on principle it would make 
sense, the truth is that the thing that's REALLY expensive on the cloud is 
storage. You can get Amazon Web Services to scale easily the number of servers, 
but telling that each of those servers would have to be able to store and 
replicate several Terabytes of data would probably consume the budget for the 
whole archipelago quite fast.

And it doesn't make sense to have several servers all going to the same storage 
server wherever they store all those images.

Things that would make sense:
1. Allowing Familysearch to serve those images (pros: free, and no work 
necessary; cons: nobody would use the CCA servers ever again).
2. See 1., to be honest.

João Ventura
https://tombo.pt/en

On Saturday, 14 January 2017 19:10:58 UTC+1, Victor Soares wrote:
They should load all that data up on the cloud to be fault tolerant. Likely 
cheaper and less of a maintenance hassle for the CCA admins. 
On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 09:42 Ângela Loura <angel...@gmail.com > 
wrote:
Contacts:

drac.i...@azores.gov.pt 
drac...@azores.gov.pt  

2017-01-14 17:35 GMT+00:00 Richard Francis Pimentel <rickre...@gmail.com 
>:
CCA seems to have gone down this morning around 10:00 am EST. As of now it is 
still down.

 

Rick


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and culture

[Edna Epps]

I think I might have him too.   Have to check my Lemos line!

Edna 
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Do not cast me away when I am old; do not forsake me
when my strength is gone.

On Jan 1, 2017, at 10:42 AM, nancy jean baptiste  
wrote:

OMG! I wonder if this is our common ancestor! I haven't read it yet but soon! I 
have a Joao de Sousa Machado too! This is on my direct maternal line and the 
women crry the Bernarda! Can't wait to check!

Nancy Jean!

From: azores@googlegroups.com  
> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci >
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 11:18:17 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and 
culture
 
OMGosh, Victor, this is amazing! I knew Bernarda Rosa was going to lead me 
somewhere one day! LOL Her name was so unusual that I made a note of it and 
eventually she turned out to be a greatgrandmother along with her husband, 
Domingos Antonio de Sousa! Thank you so much for this info, I will enjoy 
reading about my ancestor in other than church records. 

Rosemarie 
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Victor Soares > wrote:
I came across this Masters dissertation by Rui Duarte Brasil Marques, Society 
and economy of the council of Velos in the 18th-19th centuries 
, while 
searching for a name that appears in the obituary of João de Sousa Machado 

 on my direct paternal line. (@Rosemarie Capodicci - this is one of our common 
ancestors)

It's amazing to read about things like land ownership, agriculture, 
aristocracy, living conditions, etc. Most relevant to the people on this list 
is the mention of various names. For example, on pg. 55, it contains a 
description of a typical land lease using one of my ancestors' contracts:
The new renters, Bernarda Rosa, widow of Domingos António, and her son Domingos 
António de Sousa during 6 years had to pay annually in cash 140,000 reis and in 
goods 18 cheeses of 4 pounds each, 3 of 10 pounds and 8 barrels(?) of butter.

There are many other names in this dissertation so if your lines lead you to 
the council of Velas in São Jorge you should search through the dissertation. 
You may even find the design an ancestor used for branding their livestock!

-Victor Soares
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mindset or How to get your brain to "read" the records

[Edna Epps]

I LIKE THAT too Cheri!  Thanks;)

Edna 
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In Your presence is fullness of joy;
At Your right hand are pleasures forevermore
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On Nov 26, 2016, at 2:21 PM, Michael Gilfilian  wrote:

I like it!!!


On Nov 26, 2016 4:44 PM, "Cheri Mello" > wrote:
Some of you know that I'm a teacher and I come from the world of education. 
This list is an educational tool to help you learn to research various records 
that will lead you to your freguesia (village) and then how to "read" those 
records.

When teaching my students, I've always said that ability to succeed was only 
50%. The other 50% is the negative self-talk or negative beliefs one has about 
themselves in the subject. Same is true for "reading" the records. Or learning 
to understand DNA.

This blurb came up in one of my education groups. A good chunk of it is 
applicable to genealogy as well. They are calling it "fixed mindset" versus 
"growth mindset." I guess that's better than me saying "Psyche yourself up not 
psyche yourself out." Here goes:

Don't say: I'm not good at this.
Do say: What am I missing?

Don't say: I'm awesome at this.
Do say: I'm on the right track.

Don't say: I give up.
Do say: I'll use some of the strategies we've learned.

Don't say: This is too hard.
Do say: This may take some time and effort.

Don't say: I can't make this any better.
Do say: I can always improve so I'll keep trying.

Don't say: I just can't do .
Do say: I'm going to train my brain in _.

Don't say: I made a mistake.
Do say: Mistakes help me to learn better.

Don't say: She's so smart. I'll never be that smart.
Do say: I'm going to figure out how she does it.

Don't say: It's good enough.
Do say: Is it really my best work?

Don't say: Plan A didn't work.
Do say: Good thing the alphabet has 25 more letters (in the English language).

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Arline L. Silveira, 1934-2016 (sara...@aol.com)

[Edna Epps]

Thanks for your tribute to Arline, I agree totally, that was very much how she 
was for me through the years and I was blessed to have spend many hours with 
her and Doris Mello at the Family History Center in San Luis Obispo, reading 
the records on the microfische!  She was so helpful and so organized and 
wonderful in transcribing the records and had beautiful, readable handwriting 
too, unlike me!

Edna
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On Sep 25, 2016, at 2:36 PM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:

I’ve been away from my computer and did to not think I could say what I wanted 
to say by typing on my phone! I just wanted to say a little about Arline. She 
reached out to me years and  years ago when she saw from Rosemarie’s newsletter 
that we had a connection.  I had everything to gain by our association as she 
was a master researcher.  We went back and forth on so many things!  As it 
turned out her father-in-law came over on the same ship with my maternal 
grandfather….she asked me if I had a copy of the ship’s manifest (this is way 
before all these things were on line!) and when I pulled it out, there was her 
father-in-law listed right with my grandfather’s name:) Eventually we 
discovered that they were related and Arline talked her by then ex-husband into 
testing his Dna as his Y line was one that was one of my direct ancestors.  We 
spent so much time working on our common ancestry in the village of Pedro 
Miguel, Faial and she was such a whiz!  She was so experienced in reading the 
records and whenever I was stumped through the years, I would write to Arline 
and she could always figure it out. Arline actually copy machine copied 
"Familias Failenses” for me….yes way before all these things came on line.  
Over ten years ago, my husband and I spent some time in Pismo Beach and Arline 
came over and met us for dinner. It was so wonderful to meet her finally!  As 
sometimes thing go in life, we had not written for a long while. I know that I 
tried to email her a few times with no response and I was never sure if she has 
changed her email or was tired of my questions (NO, I did not think that!).  
Anyway, I just wanted to write a little about her here as I considered her to 
be one of my teachers extraordinary and a wonderful friend. I cherish the 
memories of each new ancestor that we found together!  I am hoping that my own 
“fantasies” come true and that Arline is up there meeting all those ancestors 
that she worked so hard to find!. 

Susan Vargas Murphy

> On Sep 24, 2016, at 6:36 PM, 'j Bc' via Azores Genealogy 
> > wrote:
> 
> Doris Mello went. They were close.
> 
> On Friday, September 23, 2016 at 8:54:25 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
> Is anyone for this list going to Arline's funeral tomorrow?
> 
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
> Achada
> 
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Cheri Mello  > wrote:
> Arline Silveira, long time member of this list and a genealogist for more 
> than 25 years has passed away.
> 
> The link to the San Jose Mercury News with her obituary is here: 
> http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/mercurynews/obituary.aspx?pid=181473270 
> 
> 
> Arline Loretta Silveira
> Resident of Grover Beach
> Arline Loretta Silveira passed away on September 18, 2016 after a brief 
> illness, surrounded by her children and grandchildren. 
> She was born December 17, 1934 in San Jose to Joseph and Mary Azevedo, and 
> was the youngest of three children. She grew up on a dairy in East San Jose 
> and graduated from James Lick High School at age 16. She married Jerome 
> Silveira on May 18, 1952 and raised five children. They were involved in 
> school activities and they enjoyed camping with friends and family. She also 
> had a love of animals and the outdoors, and was a docent at the Youth Science 
> Institute. She was also very active in 4-H activities for several years.
> She attended San Jose State University in the fall of 1982 until she moved to 
> Shell Beach in December of 1983 and attended Cal Poly studying zoology and 
> computer science. She loved living by the ocean.
> Arline enjoyed doing stained glass projects, making jewelry by lost wax 
> casting method, creating quilts for family members and many other arts and 
> crafts. She loved books and had always read daily. She enjoyed doing jigsaw 
> and word puzzles and logic problems. She was a square dancer for several 
> years and had many friends. She spent many years doing Azorean 

[AZORES-Genealogy] I need some help reading this record.

[Edna Epps]

I am looking for the birth date of my 3rd G Grandmother.  Her name is Ignascia 
Luiza  and her parents are Antonio Machado aka Antonio Machado de Quadros. and 
Maria de Concaecio.  I think “maybe” the last record on the right side of this 
page “might” be her birth record. 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-VELAS-B-1777-1784/SJR-VL-VELAS-B-1777-1784_item1/P32.html
I think it says Ignacia filha of Antonio (?) Machado. . Mariante (?) native and 
lives in villa de Velas, on Island of Sao Jorge, and his wife Maria (?) de 
Concaecio  also a Native.?? born on 26th day of November 1778.  Baptised on the 
3rd day of Dec 1778, Godparents  ???.  I have spend days, weeks looking for 
this birth and I know I may be trying to make this one fit, ...but it’s the 
closest I’ve found.   Any and all help is appreciated.
Thanks
Edna
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] General Question

[Edna Epps]

THANKS JOHN I didn’t know that!   Wishing everyone a Happy Easter!

Edna Lemos Epps
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On Mar 26, 2016, at 12:52 PM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:

The church has always maintained that any Christian may baptize an  individual 
who is in danger of dying before he can be baptized by a priest or deacon. The 
formula must be exact "I baptize you in the name of the Father, and of the Son 
and of the Holy Spirit." Many babies were baptized at birth, usually by the 
"parteira" (the midwife) or some member of the family. Those baptisms were 
usually recorded by the priest in the parish registry. A sub condicione baptism 
is when the priest then re-baptizes the baby in case the original baptism 
performed at home was not valid for whatever reason (usually because the 
correct formula was not used). 

John Miranda Raposo


On Saturday, March 26, 2016 1:53 PM, linda  wrote:


hi Suzanne,

Can you provide a link for the record where the term appears?  

My understanding is that a baptism may be recorded "sub condicione" by a priest 
when it is the second baptism of an individual, and the priest has a concern 
that the first baptism might not have been performed exactly right-- such as a 
baptism done by a lay person.  The term describes the condition of the 
baptismal rite rather than that of the baby.

Linda

On Saturday, March 26, 2016 at 10:24:47 AM UTC-7, Suzanne Edvalson wrote:
What does it mean when a baby was born sub condicianco?  Was this baby a 
preemie?  I get the general gist that the baby was born in less than ideal 
health, just wondering if there was something specifically wrong.

Thanks.
Suzanne
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] When records end..

[Edna Epps]

I did the same as Rosemarie and it worked for me too.;)
Edna
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For this reason also, since the day we heard of it, we have not ceased to pray 
for you and to ask that you may be filled with the knowledge of His will in all 
spiritual wisdom and understanding,  so that you will walk in a manner worthy 
of the Lord, to please Him in all respects, bearing fruit in every good work 
and increasing in the knowledge of God;  strengthened with all power, according 
to His glorious might, for the attaining of all steadfastness and patience; 
joyously  giving thanks to the Father, who has qualified us to share in the 
inheritance of the saints in Light.





On Feb 26, 2016, at 9:55 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci  wrote:

That's so funny because I used your link and the book is there and I clicked on 
the 'full view' at the bottom of the page and it starts the book! 

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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 8:34 AM, JR > wrote:
I have tried, nothing come up except "limited searches only." and when I click 
on that page numbers are cited and no pages come up.

JR

On Friday, February 26, 2016 at 11:11:44 AM UTC-5, rcapodc wrote:
JR, how why do you say that you have to be American?? If the book comes up you 
click on 'full view' at the bottom and you can view the entire book. I've never 
seen it ask for a name or to join or anything?? 

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On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:01 PM, JR > wrote:
I just looked that up. You have to be American to use the site, but here it is:

http://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/008882332 


On Friday, February 26, 2016 at 12:52:43 AM UTC-5, rcapodc wrote:
Becky, there is a book called Familias da Faialenses by Marcelino Lima that 
takes many of the founding families back a ways. If you go to the site:  
Haithitrust.org and put in the name of the book or author it will come up. The 
problem is that the book is arranged by main family names and does not have an 
index. So, you may find Silveiras listed in the Pereira chapter or Cunhas 
listed in the Cabral chapter!! You have to read each one to find your names! 
Not an easy thing. 


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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 7:44 PM, Becky Mendonca > wrote:
Now that I am to the point on Faial where the records are running out..were 
there records prior to that on the main island, or am I just done?? Where or 
how do you search when this happens?

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] When records end..

[Edna Epps]

Thank you so much for posting this information!;)  If nothing else I can 
practice reading Portuguese!;)
❤ Edna Lemos Epps
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On Feb 25, 2016, at 10:01 PM, JR  wrote:

I just looked that up. You have to be American to use the site, but here it is:

http://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/008882332

On Friday, February 26, 2016 at 12:52:43 AM UTC-5, rcapodc wrote:
Becky, there is a book called Familias da Faialenses by Marcelino Lima that 
takes many of the founding families back a ways. If you go to the site:  
Haithitrust.org and put in the name of the book or author it will come up. The 
problem is that the book is arranged by main family names and does not have an 
index. So, you may find Silveiras listed in the Pereira chapter or Cunhas 
listed in the Cabral chapter!! You have to read each one to find your names! 
Not an easy thing. 


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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 7:44 PM, Becky Mendonca  wrote:
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RootsTech

[Edna Epps]

I wish I was going!You learn everything you can about DNA…you are the 
expert there for our family!;)   I had Shane tested and it’s being processed 
right now.  Also getting both my daughter-in-laws done as well.  They aren’t 
Portuguese but will be fun to see their DNA too.;)   Have fun and lear lots!;)
Edna 
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are; rather, they reveal who we are. No one and no thing can make us angry, 
greedy, envious, or hateful, or turn us into lawless people.” From David 
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On Jan 23, 2016, at 11:01 AM, Ken Waters  wrote:

Hi Fellow Researchers,

I'm attending RootsTech in one week in SLC.  Is anyone else on this list going 
also?  Let me know if you are or would like to meet up there.  This will be my 
first time attending.  Too bad there aren't any Azores classes as part of it!  
Hah, Cheri, João, and Rosemarie take care of that quite well already.  

Probably my biggest interest is in DNA research as I really enjoy doing that 
and learning more ways to use the tools, especially on Gedmatch.  I have 10 
kits (with 2 more coming, my kids to be added soon) that I have added to the 
website including my own (#A979857).  There are about 4 sessions on DNA work 
scheduled.

Regards,

Ken Waters
Mesa AZ
Lemos, Sylvia, Machado, de San Jose, da Cunha, Vieira, Constancia, Brum, de 
Rosario, Avila, da Sousa, Miranda, Teixeira

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS!

[Edna Epps]

Wishing each of you a very Merry Christmas and hope we all get breakthroughs in 
our Portuguese lines in 2016!   A special thanks to Cheri for all the help and 
patience she has had with me and my lack of technical skills.
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On Dec 21, 2015, at 7:42 AM, 'Lillian Palko' via Azores Genealogy 
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Special thanks to Cheri and JR without whom I wouldn't have a Portuguese 
Ancestry. God bless all the little helpers on this list and lets make 2016 even 
better for others who are working on their Portuguese ancestry!

On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 9:02:50 AM UTC-8, dvc...@gmail.com wrote:
A very Merry Christmas to each and every one of you on the Azores Group!!  

You are an exceptional group of people who are more than willing to help 
others.  

May God Bless you and your families.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year

Dave

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] People with Faial ancestry

[Edna Epps]

I have a lot of family from Faial on my Mother’s side.  Mostly de Faria and 
Mattos, but a lot of other names as well.  I have a lot of my family tested on 
Ancestry and also on FTDNA.  I’ve also uploaded all the DNA tests to GEDMATCH.  
 You can email directly and maybe I can help.

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care.”

On Dec 15, 2015, at 2:21 PM, R Mac  wrote:

Hi, Cheri

Only my siblings and I are left in the family so that is all we have to choose 
from. Since I am a close descendant of my grandfather who came from Faial, I 
would be the only one left. I had my DNA tested a couple of years ago through 
23andme.com  and took their standard test,  which produced 
a lot of information. As for the specific type of test I took I am unsure but 
it evaluated all 23 DNA strands. And it was U7 not U4 as I thought (I double 
checked on the 23 and me site.

Thanks,
Robert  

On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Cheri Mello > wrote:
It is best to test the oldest generation. If the parent who has the Faial 
ancestry is alive, test that person. If you have access to a sibling of the 
grandparent generation, test that person. If not, you are it.

I don't know what company you tested with or approximate date you tested. Or 
what type of DNA test you took. I need that information or I can't tell you 
what to do next.
Thanks,
Cheri

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On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 1:47 PM, R Mac > wrote:
I know for sure my great, great grandfather was from Faial. The only DNA sample 
I have is mine. I have the raw data. Is there a site available for upload?? I 
also have a U4 marker which from what I understand is rare.

Thanks, 
Robert

On Dec 15, 2015 4:32 PM, "Cheri Mello" > wrote:
If you have your lineage going back to Faial, you really need to be DNA tested. 
The Azores DNA Project doesn't have that many people with Faial ancestry 
testing. 

And if you think that just because NEPS has most of it online so there's no 
point in DNA testing, yes there is.

1) Not everything is on NEPS
2) Humans read the records. They make mistakes.
3) Humans did the data entry into NEPS. Another chance to make a mistake.
4) You could match someone else and make a connection that wouldn't have 
happened without the DNA. You'll have a new cousin and your match will be 
forever thankful that you DNA tested.

The Family Finder is regularly $99, on sale for $89, and there are $10 off 
coupons floating around. So it's $79 and then $9.95 for postage (includes 
return postage back to Texas if you reside in America).

Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joseph Monsebo (or Mancebo) Rodrigues, Flores to Hawaii

[Edna Epps]

Thanks for that information Eric.  I have seen Mancebo and have always thought 
it was a surname.  Learned something new.;)
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On May 31, 2015, at 11:59 AM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote:

The Mancebo usually means  the Younger. If Jose Rodrigues has a son, he would 
be known as Jose Rodrigues Mancebo to differentiate from his father. 

It is often seen applied to the first born son, when he is named for his father 
.It can become part of a surname.

There is a family group in Lajes, Flores that has used the Rodrigues Mancebo 
surnames consistently for more than three generations

Do you have any more info? a birthdate, death date , place of residence?

Eric Edgar

On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com 
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Repost for Gloria Rodrigues, suchislife55 at gmail.com http://gmail.com/

Hi Debra, 

My name is Gloria Rodrigues. Started doing my genealogy about 8 months now. My 
great grandfather Joseph Monsebo Rodrigues (assuming his name was Jose 
Rodrigues Mancebo) went to Hawaii from Flores Island (late 1860's to early 
1870's) on a whaling ship and jumped ship there. That is all we know! We found 
info on him in Hawaii (not much) but not have been able to trace him or family 
in Flores. Was wondering if you came across that name in your research. Any 
info would  be greatly appreciated.

Gloria email: suchis...@gmail.com 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] What is a festa?

[Edna Epps]

Here in the Central Valley they usually also auction off linguisa.;)  I’ve even 
seen Fava Beans.

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On May 24, 2015, at 6:07 PM, 'Sam Koester' via Azores Genealogy 
azores@googlegroups.com wrote:

Ok, now I get it.  Interesting,.  I'll have to see if they hold any festa 
nearby our new location.  Thanks Cheri!
 
Sam (Camas, WA)

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Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] What is a festa?

Sam,

I think it depends on the location. Many auction off some of the Portuguese 
sweets, pastries, and sweet bread. I've seen wine and other adult beverages. 
I've seen birds, quilts, and other handmade items. Some that are more rural 
will auction off a calf or other farm animals. It may be different in different 
locations, too.

Cheri



On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 5:04 PM, 'Sam Koester' via Azores Genealogy 
azores@googlegroups.com mailto:azores@googlegroups.com wrote:
Auctions, really?  What do they auction, just various stuff people happen to 
want to sell?Just curious...
 
Sam (Camas, WA)

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To: Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com mailto:Azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 4:22 PM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] What is a festa?

From time to time, I get asked this question.
What is a festa?

So here it is from my point of view in California. They may vary somewhat on 
the East Coast, in Canada, in Hawaii, and the Azores.

Most festas (FESH-tahs) are feast days in honor of saints. Sometimes, there may 
be a rosary said nightly in the week leading up to the feast day. On the day of 
the festa, there is usually some type of opening ceremony, flag raising, or 
organizers greeting each other. The saint is brought out and many times there 
is some type of procession. A Mass is said. Food will be served, followed by 
auctions, with band concerts, folk dancing, and singing for entertainment. 
Sometimes, in the evening, a dance will be held. 

That's the basic overview of what goes on. Depending on the festa, other 
customs may be involved. If you are anywhere near a Portuguese community, it's 
worth investigating.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation of a letter

[Edna Epps]

Thank you Gloria.  Margaret Vicente has helped me on this one.   I will keep 
your email though as I know I have a couple others that are in my files 
somewhere but I haven’t had time yet to get them out and scanned.  I got these 
some time ago, but for several years haven’t worked on genealogy.  Now that I’m 
back at it I have to get organized all over again.;)

Thanks so much for your kindness.

Edna 
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On May 4, 2015, at 10:23 PM, Gloria Arlette Rodrigues suchislif...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Hi Edna,

If you want a translation, my husbands first language is portuguese and also 
speaks spanish and french. My email: suchislif...@gmail.com 
mailto:suchislif...@gmail.com

Gloria Rodrigues

 On May 3, 2015, at 10:28 PM, Edna Epps dave-e...@comcast.net 
 mailto:dave-e...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Is there anyone on this list that can translate a handwritten letter? I found 
 it in my Grandmother’s things.  The writing is good, but I am not getting a 
 good translation from the translation sites.   I have scanned the letter and 
 sent it to you personally, if you will let me know your email address.  It is 
 written in Portuguese.
 
 Thanks,
 Edna Lemos Epps
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[AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Translation of a letter

[Edna Epps]

Is there anyone on this list that can translate a handwritten letter? I found 
it in my Grandmother’s things.  The writing is good, but I am not getting a 
good translation from the translation sites.   I have scanned the letter and 
sent it to you personally, if you will let me know your email address.  It is 
written in Portuguese.

Thanks,
Edna Lemos Epps
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Col 1:9-12




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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation please

[Edna Epps]

The Catholic church in USA used Latin a lot of times.  I know St Joseph’s in 
Yreka, Ca did as I have records like this.

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On May 4, 2015, at 10:29 AM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy 
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Funny.I think the record that is cut off may be Kathy Cardoza's ancestor's 
record as I have a note that one of her marriages was around that date!
Susan

On May 4, 2015, at 10:05 AM, 'Pat Rose' via Azores Genealogy 
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 If someone could translate the part of the attached picture that has Joseph F 
 Rose and Flora Vargas I'd appreciate it a lot.
 I'm still also trying to find out when each of them left the Azores.  He was 
 born around 1849 and she was born in 1860.  The marriage took place in 
 California in 1875.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Pat
 
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help please

[Edna Epps]

I think the Mother is Angelica Ignascia de Bitancurt (Bettencourt)
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1 John 3:23 And this is His Commandment that we believe in the name of His Son 
Jesus Christ and love one another, just as He has commanded us

1 John 3:18 Little children let us not love with word or with tongue but in 
deed and truth








On May 3, 2015, at 2:58 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

Angela Ignacia de something is the mom.

On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Carlota Torres pennysa...@gmail.com 
mailto:pennysa...@gmail.com wrote:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADINHA-B-1799-1811/SMG-ND-ACHADINHA-B-1799-1811_item1/SMG-ND-ACHADINHA-B-1799-1811_JPG/SMG-ND-ACHADINHA-B-1799-1811_0012.jpg
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADINHA-B-1799-1811/SMG-ND-ACHADINHA-B-1799-1811_item1/SMG-ND-ACHADINHA-B-1799-1811_JPG/SMG-ND-ACHADINHA-B-1799-1811_0012.jpg
   This the link to the page.  Thank you for looking.


On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 1:58:08 PM UTC-4, Carlota Torres wrote:
Can someone please help me translate this baptism record of Joanna, Achadinha, 
~1799? I can only read her father's name.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Future Azores Conference planning for Salt Lake City

[Edna Epps]

That week would work for me.:) 

Edna 
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On Apr 17, 2015, at 1:43 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
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I have no problems with the date by it may not work for others as it is the 
first week of school for many that teach or have children going to school. I 
don’t see a big problem with travel on Labor Day as most people spend it at 
home with that last backyard barbeque of the season.
 
Rick
 
Richard Francis Pimentel
Epping, NH
 
 
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Future Azores Conference planning for Salt Lake City
 
Future planning for Salt Lake City (this has to do with some logistics on the 
meeting room space)

September 2016
Monday, Sept 5th = Labor Day
Tuesday, Sept 6th = Azores conference
Wed, Sept. 7th = Azores Conference
Thurs, Sept. 8th = Azores conference
Fri, Sept. 9th = Azores conference

This would mean that people who need to fly would do so on Labor Day.  I don't 
see Labor Day as a huge air travel day.  Neither does the Plaza Hotel.  I'm 
wondering if we pick that week if it would help or hurt us. 

Thoughts?
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Lexique of Genealogy Terms

[Edna Epps]

Thanks George,   I have some lists from years ago that are well worn so it was 
nice to print out a new one.;)

Edna
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Joshua 10:14 And there was no day like that before it or after it where the 
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On Apr 8, 2015, at 6:39 AM, George Medeiros migueldeav...@gmail.com wrote:

http://www.fernandocandido.com/portgen/archives.html


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Salt Lake City Conference 2015

[Edna Epps]

Enjoy...sure wish I was there with all of you again this year!;(

Edna 
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Do not cast me away when I am old; do not forsake me
when my strength is gone.

On Apr 6, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

Made it here a little after 10 a.m.  Got a bite to eat and now I'm going to do 
some set up and then sneak away to do research!
Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Feliz Pascoa / Happy Easter thread

[Edna Epps]

I think I already messed up and posted elsewhere.;(but wishing you all a 
very Happy Easter!;)

Edna
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On Apr 5, 2015, at 8:34 AM, nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com 
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Feliz Pascoa! Happy Easter to everyone!

Nancy Jean

Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Feliz Pascoa / Happy Easter thread
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Blessed Easter to all

Sent from my iPhone

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Feliz Pascoa / Happy Easter to all list members.
If you'd like to send your Easter greetings, post to this thread only. Do not 
post after midnight your time.
Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question about preferred method for entering last names in Ancestry.com or other databases

[Edna Epps]

My Maternal ancestors went by DeFaria here in the USA. 

Happy Easter to all my Azorean cousins out there!
Edna
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On Apr 5, 2015, at 3:44 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
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One thing I did not address is that when some of our ancestors immigrated their 
last name incorporated the “de, da, do, dos” So the descendants of Manuel de 
Sousa and his cousin Joao da Costa became known as Manuel Desousa (or DeSousa) 
and Joao Dacosta (or DaCosta)and these were the names used by their 
descendants. In this case the last name of their descendants is recorded as 
such. If the ancestor is found under both names. The name is noted in my 
genealogy program which has the capability of sorting all names a person is 
listed under.
 
Rick
 
Richard Francis Pimentel
Epping, NH
 
 
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Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2015 7:40 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question about preferred method for entering 
last names in Ancestry.com or other databases
 
Over the years I have tried different methods in entering names into Genealogy 
programs. A major consideration in entering names from Portugal and the Acores, 
is the naming traditions make it very confusing and the fact that names are 
sorted there by first name. Thrown into this mix is the “de, da, do, dos” used 
in names.
 
With this consideration I enter names this way: I enter the “de, da, do, dos” 
at the end of the first name. Example Manuel da Costa is entered: first name 
“Manuel da” last name “Costa”.
Manuel de Sousa da Costa is entered: first name “Manuel de” last name “Sousa da 
Costa”
Names like Manuel Furtado are entered: first name “Manuel” last name “Furtado”
 
Many woman used religious names Such as “Maria de Jesus” and no last name is 
given. In this case I enter the first name as “Maria de Jesus” and no last name 
is used. I have some times found that woman later pick up or use their family 
name. In this case I simply add that name as a last name. Thus her full name 
becomes first name “Maria de Jesus de” last name “Sousa” In cases where woman 
use a family name and no religious name I simply use the parameters as I 
outline for men.
 
One more consideration is that children did not use family names and as such 
were only referred to by their name given at birth. When they reached their 
majority they were then referred to by a full name. Because  of the naming 
traditions I do not arbitrarily assign them a family name.
 
I also found that the genealogy program you use should be able to sort names by 
first name or last name and when entering names allow separate entry of first 
and last name.
 
Rick
 
Richard Francis Pimentel
Epping, NH
 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Most efficient way of researching ancestors?

[Edna Epps]

Thanks Bill for this information.  I'm just learning to use spreadsheets and 
hadn't thought about doing this.   I appreciate you sharing this with us.

Edna 
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Even to your old age and gray hairs I am He, I am
He who will sustain you.  I have made you and I will
carry you; I will sustain you and I will rescue you.
 

On Apr 3, 2015, at 10:12 PM, 'Bill Boyd' via Azores Genealogy 
azores@googlegroups.com wrote:

I created a spreadsheet (Libre Office) and use sheet tabs for baptisms, 
marriages and obits. Each sheet has columns appropriate for the record (baptism 
date, name, paternal grandparents, godparents, death date, etc.)  I paste the 
record link into the first column.  As I search through, I put the last 
searched link in the spreadsheet so I can pick up the search later. 

Also, since I save the spreadsheet on a cloud drive, I can start searching 
from whatever computer I am on at the time.

Works for me

Bill

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mailto:bellema...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sam,
 
 I copy the site address of the record and send it to myself in an email with 
 their name in the Subject area and have a folder named Famiy-TBD. If I find 
 they connect, I then put them in my Tree and I always put the site address in 
 my Notes (I am using FTM 16) for future reference.
 
 E 
 
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 mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sam,
 
 I guess you could tie this sub-families together and have them floating in 
 your database.  Then when you make the connection, you only have a few mouse 
 clicks to tie them in.  Then your tree will really sprout.
 
 Maybe others have different ideas.
 
 Cheri
 
 On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 12:49 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy 
 azores@googlegroups.com mailto:azores@googlegroups.com wrote:
 I’m not sure if I can even adequately explain my question but; I’ll try.  
 When trying to locate an ancestor’s birth, death, marriage document I 
 constantly come across other documents that seem highly likely to be in my 
 line but; for which I do not yet have a connection.  Once you save these 
 documents, how do you most efficiently organized them for future reference in 
 trying to place them in your tree?
 
 Thanks in advance for your thoughts on this.  Sam in Maz
 
 Sent from Windows Mail
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cunha from Graciosa, no dates

[Edna Epps]

I'm looking for some Cunhas on Graciosa too.  My paternal Great Grandmother 
Maria Jesintia Rosa was supposedly born in Graciosa i 1864 and when she was 14 
was sent to USA to live with her Uncle Joseph (Jose Bettancourt Da Cunha) Silva 
born 1848, also known as Joe Silva in USA, and his wife Mariana Bettancourt 
Silva who were supposed to be from Graciosa.  They settled in far northern 
California, Yreka, Hawkinsville area.   Do any of these names ring a bell with 
anyone?   I'm searching but have not been able to find anythings specific yet.  
 I think they were from Luz but not positive.


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On Apr 3, 2015, at 10:22 PM, 'Bill Boyd' via Azores Genealogy 
azores@googlegroups.com wrote:

Helen,

I've got many Cunhas from Graciosa in my tree. I have a second cousin who 
returned to Graciosa about 17 years ago (he is a Cunha). Provide some 
birthdates for your grandparents and I can ask. 

Regards,

Bill

On Mar 31, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com 
mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 Repost for Helen Huckobey, helen.huckobey at yahoo.com http://yahoo.com/
 
 I'm looking for family of my father Alfred Cunha. He had one brother Joseph 
 that never came to America.  They were from Graciosa . His family still live 
 there.  My grandparents Antonio and Elvera Cunha. She returned to the Azores 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Angra Passports at CCA available

[Edna Epps]

Thanks John!   I hope when my cousin's YDNA is processed it'll show a 
connection!!;)


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On Mar 24, 2015, at 10:32 AM, John Vasconcelos gfsjo...@gmail.com wrote:

Edna,
Your GGF 's name was more than likely originally, Manuel Corvello and very 
possibly from Fajazinha (Nossa Senhrora dos Remedios) although there were also 
Corvellos in Santa Cruz, Flores (Nossa Sehora da Conceicao). My maternal GGF 
was Antonio Rodrigues Corvello for Fajazinha.
John Vasconcelos .

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Edna Epps dave-e...@comcast.net 
mailto:dave-e...@comcast.net wrote:
Thank you Joao and all the others on here.   I'm searching a Gt Grandfather 
from Flores, Manuel Crovelle (USA version), and have not had much luck cause I 
don't know his parents or village that he came from.  I just had a Y-37 DNA 
test done on the only male Crovelle I know in the line, so am anxious to see 
what it shows.  It is on the way back to FTDNA right now to be processed.  
Family history says our Manuel left Flores in about 1844 on a whaling 
ship...and after 10 yrs or so on whaling ships off both east and west coasts of 
USA, he finally landed in San Francisco area and made it to northern Calif near 
Yreka, Calif.  Anyhow I have been watching your posts and gleaning a bit of 
information, so just wanted to thank all of you who share on here.

 Edna Lemos Epps 
dave-e...@comcast.net mailto:dave-e...@comcast.net
On Mar 23, 2015, at 12:46 PM, João Ventura j...@venturas.org 
mailto:j...@venturas.org wrote:

Hi,

As Cheri answered, you should look first to Horta, and then to the other 
districts. To understand what's going on here you need to understand a bit of 
the administrative history of the Azores.. When the Azores districts were 
formed, there were basically two: one in Angra and the other in Ponta Delgada. 
Horta then managed to get it's district created out of the other two. Wikipedia 
explains it a lot better than I can:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horta_(district) 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horta_(district)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponta_Delgada_(district) 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponta_Delgada_(district)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Azores#Liberal_wars 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Azores#Liberal_wars

That of course explains why there are three 'district' archives. In mainland 
Portugal we have 18 of these districts, and each also has a separate archive. 
So, the official district for Flores would be Horta, but it may be that the 
persons you're looking for first went to Angra or to Ponta Delgada, and you 
might also look there.

However, the most likely explanation, and you can see that story in one my 
wife's ancestors on the link below is that passengers from Flores sailed 
directly from Flores to the US without getting a passport. The passengers of 
the Peninsular or the other boats that did the Azores-America immigration 
routes passing through Flores embarked their last passengers on this port and 
then sailed to the US. They never got a passport because there was no one able 
to give them those papers in Santa Cruz das Flores, as it wasn't a district 
capital. This particular story of José Tomás Dias (that Eric helped a lot in 
researching) was that he immigrated for the first time in 1898 straight from 
Flores on the Peninsular, and stayed in the US until about 1910, when he 
returned to Flores, married and started a family. In 1913 he returned to the 
US, but this time he had to get a passport in Horta since the Companhia 
Insulana de Navegação (CIN) had abandoned the US route as they simply couldn't 
compete with the big steamers of the time. He took a boat from Horta to Ponta 
Delgada where he then boarded the Cretic to go to the US, where he stayed until 
about 1920, when he return for good to Flores. Note that he never got a 
passport on his first trip, and on the second his passport from Horta was good 
enough that he didn't need a second one from Ponta Delgada to board the Cretic.

http://venturas.org/familytree/individual.php?pid=I49ged=venturas 
http://venturas.org/familytree/individual.php?pid=I49ged=venturas

Best regards,
João C Ventura
https://tombo.pt/en https://tombo.pt/en


On Monday, 23 March 2015 06:45:18 UTC+1, luiznoia wrote:
I've read about 50 years of the Horta passports now and find very few Flores 
residents on them. Less than one person per two pages. So, maybe 1 percent

I'm hoping Angra turns up more. 

The format of the Angra passports is very different, a book entry for each 
passport rather than the table form that Horta uses. Less information is given.

Eric Edgar

On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 5:21 PM, Cheri Mello gfsc...@gmail.com  wrote:
Brenda SP,

The 3 ports for the Azores are:
Horta on Faial
Angra on Terceira
Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel

Since Flores is closest to Horta, I'd look there first.  If they needed to get 
out

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Angra Passports at CCA available

[Edna Epps]

Thanks Rosemarie.;)  I've come to that conclusion but since I only have family 
stories that are distant as I am, I'm trying to search everywhere!  Impossible 
really with only his name and possible birth year.;)

Have fun in SLC!   I sure wish I could go again, but not going to make it.;(
Your Cousin!
♥Edna
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By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, 
for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.

 







On Mar 23, 2015, at 3:38 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci rcap...@gmail.com wrote:

Edna, if he was on a whaler, he is not on the passporte lists. 

Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Edna Epps dave-e...@comcast.net 
mailto:dave-e...@comcast.net wrote:
Thank you Joao and all the others on here.   I'm searching a Gt Grandfather 
from Flores, Manuel Crovelle (USA version), and have not had much luck cause I 
don't know his parents or village that he came from.  I just had a Y-37 DNA 
test done on the only male Crovelle I know in the line, so am anxious to see 
what it shows.  It is on the way back to FTDNA right now to be processed.  
Family history says our Manuel left Flores in about 1844 on a whaling 
ship...and after 10 yrs or so on whaling ships off both east and west coasts of 
USA, he finally landed in San Francisco area and made it to northern Calif near 
Yreka, Calif.  Anyhow I have been watching your posts and gleaning a bit of 
information, so just wanted to thank all of you who share on here.

 Edna Lemos Epps 
dave-e...@comcast.net mailto:dave-e...@comcast.net
On Mar 23, 2015, at 12:46 PM, João Ventura j...@venturas.org 
mailto:j...@venturas.org wrote:

Hi,

As Cheri answered, you should look first to Horta, and then to the other 
districts. To understand what's going on here you need to understand a bit of 
the administrative history of the Azores.. When the Azores districts were 
formed, there were basically two: one in Angra and the other in Ponta Delgada. 
Horta then managed to get it's district created out of the other two. Wikipedia 
explains it a lot better than I can:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horta_(district) 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horta_(district)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponta_Delgada_(district) 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponta_Delgada_(district)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Azores#Liberal_wars 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Azores#Liberal_wars

That of course explains why there are three 'district' archives. In mainland 
Portugal we have 18 of these districts, and each also has a separate archive. 
So, the official district for Flores would be Horta, but it may be that the 
persons you're looking for first went to Angra or to Ponta Delgada, and you 
might also look there.

However, the most likely explanation, and you can see that story in one my 
wife's ancestors on the link below is that passengers from Flores sailed 
directly from Flores to the US without getting a passport. The passengers of 
the Peninsular or the other boats that did the Azores-America immigration 
routes passing through Flores embarked their last passengers on this port and 
then sailed to the US. They never got a passport because there was no one able 
to give them those papers in Santa Cruz das Flores, as it wasn't a district 
capital. This particular story of José Tomás Dias (that Eric helped a lot in 
researching) was that he immigrated for the first time in 1898 straight from 
Flores on the Peninsular, and stayed in the US until about 1910, when he 
returned to Flores, married and started a family. In 1913 he returned to the 
US, but this time he had to get a passport in Horta since the Companhia 
Insulana de Navegação (CIN) had abandoned the US route as they simply couldn't 
compete with the big steamers of the time. He took a boat from Horta to Ponta 
Delgada where he then boarded the Cretic to go to the US, where he stayed until 
about 1920, when he return for good to Flores. Note that he never got a 
passport on his first trip, and on the second his passport from Horta was good 
enough that he didn't need a second one from Ponta Delgada to board the Cretic.

http://venturas.org/familytree/individual.php?pid=I49ged=venturas 
http://venturas.org/familytree/individual.php?pid=I49ged=venturas

Best regards,
João C Ventura
https://tombo.pt/en https://tombo.pt/en


On Monday, 23 March 2015 06:45:18 UTC+1, luiznoia wrote:
I've read about 50 years of the Horta passports now and find very few Flores 
residents on them. Less than one person per two pages. So, maybe 1 percent

I'm hoping Angra turns up more. 

The format of the Angra passports is very different, a book entry for each 
passport rather than the table form that Horta uses. Less information is given.

Eric Edgar

On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 5:21 PM, Cheri Mello gfsc...@gmail.com

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Angra Passports at CCA available

[Edna Epps]

Thank you Joao and all the others on here.   I'm searching a Gt Grandfather 
from Flores, Manuel Crovelle (USA version), and have not had much luck cause I 
don't know his parents or village that he came from.  I just had a Y-37 DNA 
test done on the only male Crovelle I know in the line, so am anxious to see 
what it shows.  It is on the way back to FTDNA right now to be processed.  
Family history says our Manuel left Flores in about 1844 on a whaling 
ship...and after 10 yrs or so on whaling ships off both east and west coasts of 
USA, he finally landed in San Francisco area and made it to northern Calif near 
Yreka, Calif.  Anyhow I have been watching your posts and gleaning a bit of 
information, so just wanted to thank all of you who share on here.

 Edna Lemos Epps 
dave-e...@comcast.net
On Mar 23, 2015, at 12:46 PM, João Ventura j...@venturas.org wrote:

Hi,

As Cheri answered, you should look first to Horta, and then to the other 
districts. To understand what's going on here you need to understand a bit of 
the administrative history of the Azores.. When the Azores districts were 
formed, there were basically two: one in Angra and the other in Ponta Delgada. 
Horta then managed to get it's district created out of the other two. Wikipedia 
explains it a lot better than I can:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horta_(district)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponta_Delgada_(district)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Azores#Liberal_wars

That of course explains why there are three 'district' archives. In mainland 
Portugal we have 18 of these districts, and each also has a separate archive. 
So, the official district for Flores would be Horta, but it may be that the 
persons you're looking for first went to Angra or to Ponta Delgada, and you 
might also look there.

However, the most likely explanation, and you can see that story in one my 
wife's ancestors on the link below is that passengers from Flores sailed 
directly from Flores to the US without getting a passport. The passengers of 
the Peninsular or the other boats that did the Azores-America immigration 
routes passing through Flores embarked their last passengers on this port and 
then sailed to the US. They never got a passport because there was no one able 
to give them those papers in Santa Cruz das Flores, as it wasn't a district 
capital. This particular story of José Tomás Dias (that Eric helped a lot in 
researching) was that he immigrated for the first time in 1898 straight from 
Flores on the Peninsular, and stayed in the US until about 1910, when he 
returned to Flores, married and started a family. In 1913 he returned to the 
US, but this time he had to get a passport in Horta since the Companhia 
Insulana de Navegação (CIN) had abandoned the US route as they simply couldn't 
compete with the big steamers of the time. He took a boat from Horta to Ponta 
Delgada where he then boarded the Cretic to go to the US, where he stayed until 
about 1920, when he return for good to Flores. Note that he never got a 
passport on his first trip, and on the second his passport from Horta was good 
enough that he didn't need a second one from Ponta Delgada to board the Cretic.

http://venturas.org/familytree/individual.php?pid=I49ged=venturas

Best regards,
João C Ventura
https://tombo.pt/en


On Monday, 23 March 2015 06:45:18 UTC+1, luiznoia wrote:
I've read about 50 years of the Horta passports now and find very few Flores 
residents on them. Less than one person per two pages. So, maybe 1 percent

I'm hoping Angra turns up more. 

The format of the Angra passports is very different, a book entry for each 
passport rather than the table form that Horta uses. Less information is given.

Eric Edgar

On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 5:21 PM, Cheri Mello gfsc...@gmail.com javascript: 
wrote:
Brenda SP,

The 3 ports for the Azores are:
Horta on Faial
Angra on Terceira
Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel

Since Flores is closest to Horta, I'd look there first.  If they needed to get 
out though, they could have caught the next ship, regardless of the port.  Most 
sailed from the port closest to them though.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] translation help

[Edna Epps]

Jose  born 9-12-1886
Father: Ambrosio Francisco
Mother: Maria Rosa de Conceicao
Paternal Grandparents: Father unknown, Mother Maria Luisa, Single
Maternal Grandparents: Father: Antonio Silviera Furtado, Mother: Rosa Maria
Godparents: Jose Silviera Frtado , widower and God Mother is the paternal 
Grandmother Maria Luisa.

This is how I read the record.
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our ministry, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not 
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On Mar 18, 2015, at 3:31 PM, Elizabeth Migliori lizmi...@gmail.com wrote:

Tombo site Cedros Baptism pg 69 bottom  70 year 1886
http://tombo http://tombo.pt/en/f/hrt04#B.pt/en/f/hrt04#B 
http://tombo.pt/en/f/hrt04#B

Can someone please translate for me
I think It's Jose Francisco Silveira  Sept ?1886 
 Father Ambrosio ??? 
 Mother Rosa ???
Does it give any grandparents or ages of parents

Thank You
Liz


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Reconciling Information

[Edna Epps]

Anthony, I just took a look at your blog and your video.   I'm not real new at 
genealogy, but I think we can always learn and I like to see some ways that 
other's do there research.   I thought your blog was clear and helpful and I 
liked that you also did the video as well.  I haven't done any research on 
Spanish names so I did learn something about how they put their names together. 
  I sure wish the Portuguese had a steadfast rule!;)

Thanks for sharing your blog.

Edna Lemos Epps 
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On Mar 17, 2015, at 11:24 PM, Anthony Martin anthonyamarti...@gmail.com wrote:

I wrote up a blog post that discusses my search process when trying to find 
individuals for whom you have limited information. I'm posting this in hopes 
that it is helpful to someone.

Here's the link: 
http://thetreeandbranch.blogspot.com/2015/03/reconcile-information-is-this-correct.html
 
http://thetreeandbranch.blogspot.com/2015/03/reconcile-information-is-this-correct.html

Any feedback would be great!

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Carvalho (Flores) and Thomas (Pico) Families who settled in San Joaquin Valley

[Edna Epps]

I have been watching the postings on the Carvalho family from Flores and I also 
am very interested.  My Great Grandfather was named Manuel Crovel (Crovelle) 
here in USA, but I'm sure he was a Carvalho.  All the past records I've found 
show he was from Flores.  He apparently came to USA as a young man maybe 15 or 
16 yrs on a whaling ship.  He ended up in California in 1867 and settled in 
Hawkinsville, Ca, which is near Yreka, Ca about 15 miles south of the Oregon 
border.  So far I have not been able to find out who his parents were or which 
village in Flores that he was from.   Family records show he was born about 
1832 in Flores.  IF any of you have a missing Manuel from Flores, I'd be 
interested.  I have had DNA done on both myself, my brother, my son, so maybe I 
should look for connectiions with some of you there?  I haven't had a lot of 
time to look at or study all your Carvalho emails yet, but wanted to put in my 
2 cents anyhow in hopes someone might know something.;)
Thanks..
Edna Lemos Epps
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On Feb 24, 2015, at 10:12 PM, Annie Carvalho anniesantiag...@gmail.com wrote:

I don't know. 
I think this is my family.
The names are all family names.
The first names are right.
The dates and village are right.
If it is them, there will be 7 more children:


Alfredo Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26106961840

Anna Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26203263669

Antonio Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26203263568

Cecilia Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26203263677

Christina Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26203263644

Manuel Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26203263592


Jose Joachim JJ Carvalho 
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26106360198
1884 – 1964


Maria Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26203232324
1890 – 1962


Joao John Joachim Carvalho 
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26121135035
1903 – 
On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 at 8:38:02 PM UTC-8, luiznoia wrote:
Annie, 

Yes a different Carvalho family. 

The record that says Maria Jose de Freitas is the same person. It could be a 
transcription error by the archivist, or the way the priest wrote it.

I live in the San Francisco Bay Area. My mom's family came from Flores and I 
have cousins raised there that are now in the US and Canada.

Eric 

On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Annie Carvalho anniesa...@gmail.com 
javascript: wrote:
Eric, 

I want to be sure I understand you.

Are you saying this family you gave me information for is not my family?
Because the names and dates fit, but my family did NOT go to Hawaii, though I'm 
in contact with a good friend in Hawaii whose husband is a Carvalho.

And are you saying that 
Maria de Jesus de Freitas and
Maria de Jose de Freitas are the same person because a different priest did the 
recording?

Thank you for all the information. I really appreciate it. 
I figured out after a bit that the paternos and maternos were the grandparents. 

Do you live in Flores? Because my Tio Alfredo just passed away there a few 
years ago and I still have a cousin, Joaquina, who lives there with her husband 
whose last name is Felix. I'm not sure what became of the house that Tio 
Alfredo lived in, but it is the same house his parents lived in and I have both 
an old photo of the house way back when and then a new photo I took when I 
was in the Azores a few years ago.

A photo of that house and of my grandfather and his family can be seen on my 
blog at this link:  Our Precious Past 
http://www.ourpreciouspast.blogspot.com/2015/02/jj-carvalho-short-biography.html

Again, thank you for the information.
Annie


On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 9:11 AM, luiznoia . nobla...@gmail.com javascript: 
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Annie, 

The Carvalho family I worked on came in 1911 to Hawaii, then settled in the 
Niles, Alameda, California

The parish church for the freguisia of Bretanha in the concelho of Ponta 
Delgada, island of Sao Miguel is called Nossa Senhora de Ajuda, so the records 
read Ajuda de Bretanha. 

Nossa Senhora de Ajuda means Our Lady of Help ( or assistance). There is 
another freguisia in the neighboring concelho of Ribeira Grande called Fenais 
de Ajuda, so it's important to know which one to look in.

Paternos-  the father's parents,  Materno-the mother's parents


On differences in names in records- It's common that a persons baptism record, 
marriage (casamento), and death record (obito) are going to be written by 
different priests

The way they record the names does tend to change. In the marriage record, she 
was recorded  as Maria Jose de Freitas, yes, same person

The baptism record shows the given name at birth, but the middle name used 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Carvalho (Flores) and Thomas (Pico) Families who settled in San Joaquin Valley

[Edna Epps]

Thanks Eric, you are probably right.  Right now, I'm kind of hoping for of clue 
of anything that's close!;)

 ♥Edna 
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On Feb 25, 2015, at 2:00 PM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote:

Edna, 

I think it's a greater possibility that his name was originally Corvelo . It's 
more common in Flores

Eric Edgar 

On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 8:58 AM, Edna Epps dave-e...@comcast.net 
mailto:dave-e...@comcast.net wrote:
I have been watching the postings on the Carvalho family from Flores and I also 
am very interested.  My Great Grandfather was named Manuel Crovel (Crovelle) 
here in USA, but I'm sure he was a Carvalho.  All the past records I've found 
show he was from Flores.  He apparently came to USA as a young man maybe 15 or 
16 yrs on a whaling ship.  He ended up in California in 1867 and settled in 
Hawkinsville, Ca, which is near Yreka, Ca about 15 miles south of the Oregon 
border.  So far I have not been able to find out who his parents were or which 
village in Flores that he was from.   Family records show he was born about 
1832 in Flores.  IF any of you have a missing Manuel from Flores, I'd be 
interested.  I have had DNA done on both myself, my brother, my son, so maybe I 
should look for connectiions with some of you there?  I haven't had a lot of 
time to look at or study all your Carvalho emails yet, but wanted to put in my 
2 cents anyhow in hopes someone might know something.;)
Thanks..
Edna Lemos Epps
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Even to your old age and gray hairs I am He, I am
He who will sustain you.  I have made you and I will
carry you; I will sustain you and I will rescue you.
 

On Feb 24, 2015, at 10:12 PM, Annie Carvalho anniesantiag...@gmail.com 
mailto:anniesantiag...@gmail.com wrote:

I don't know. 
I think this is my family.
The names are all family names.
The first names are right.
The dates and village are right.
If it is them, there will be 7 more children:


Alfredo Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26106961840

Anna Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26203263669

Antonio Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26203263568

Cecilia Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26203263677

Christina Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26203263644

Manuel Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26203263592


Jose Joachim JJ Carvalho 
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26106360198
1884 – 1964


Maria Carvalho http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26203232324
1890 – 1962


Joao John Joachim Carvalho 
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26121135035
1903 – 
On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 at 8:38:02 PM UTC-8, luiznoia wrote:
Annie, 

Yes a different Carvalho family. 

The record that says Maria Jose de Freitas is the same person. It could be a 
transcription error by the archivist, or the way the priest wrote it.

I live in the San Francisco Bay Area. My mom's family came from Flores and I 
have cousins raised there that are now in the US and Canada.

Eric 

On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Annie Carvalho anniesa...@gmail.com  wrote:
Eric, 

I want to be sure I understand you.

Are you saying this family you gave me information for is not my family?
Because the names and dates fit, but my family did NOT go to Hawaii, though I'm 
in contact with a good friend in Hawaii whose husband is a Carvalho.

And are you saying that 
Maria de Jesus de Freitas and
Maria de Jose de Freitas are the same person because a different priest did the 
recording?

Thank you for all the information. I really appreciate it. 
I figured out after a bit that the paternos and maternos were the grandparents. 

Do you live in Flores? Because my Tio Alfredo just passed away there a few 
years ago and I still have a cousin, Joaquina, who lives there with her husband 
whose last name is Felix. I'm not sure what became of the house that Tio 
Alfredo lived in, but it is the same house his parents lived in and I have both 
an old photo of the house way back when and then a new photo I took when I 
was in the Azores a few years ago.

A photo of that house and of my grandfather and his family can be seen on my 
blog at this link:  Our Precious Past 
http://www.ourpreciouspast.blogspot.com/2015/02/jj-carvalho-short-biography.html

Again, thank you for the information.
Annie


On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 9:11 AM, luiznoia . nobla...@gmail.com  wrote:
Annie, 

The Carvalho family I worked on came in 1911 to Hawaii, then settled in the 
Niles, Alameda, California

The parish church for the freguisia of Bretanha in the concelho of Ponta 
Delgada, island of Sao Miguel is called Nossa Senhora de Ajuda, so the records 
read Ajuda de Bretanha. 

Nossa Senhora de Ajuda means Our Lady of Help ( or assistance). There is 
another freguisia in the neighboring concelho of Ribeira Grande called Fenais 
de Ajuda, so it's important to know

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bretenha,St. Miguel, Azores.

[Edna Epps]

I second that!!
Edna 
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According to Your Lovingkindness;
According to the multitude of Your tender mercies,
Blot out my transgressions (Psalm 51:1 
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On Feb 19, 2015, at 10:22 AM, E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote:

Just sayin

The people on this list are the greatest!!!

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need Help reading a Baptismo - Jacintho Evangelho

[Edna Epps]

Thanks Linda for posting this both in Portuguese and the translation; I printed 
it so I can use it as a guide for myself as I try to read these records.  Very 
helpful.
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On Feb 18, 2015, at 11:03 AM, linda menesesli...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi Mary,

Your transcription and translation is excellent.

Here's my transcription with some clarifying points in red:


1. Aos vinte e sete dias do mez de Septembro do 
2. anno de mil oitocentos setenta e quatro, nesta Egreja Paroochial 
3. de Sam Mattheus, Concelho da Magdalena, Ilha do Pico Diocese 
4. de Angra baptizei solemnemente hum individuo do sexo mas-
5. culino, aquem dei o nome de JACINTHO, e que nascio nesta
6. Freguesia as trez horas da tarde do dia desesete do corrente
7. mez, e anno, filho legitimo do Manoel Pereira Evangelho, agr-
8. cultor, natural desta Freguesia, e de Rita Luiza, empregada
9. no governo domestico, natural de Freguesia das Bandeiras, des-
10. ta mesmo Concelho, e Diocese, em cuja Freguesia se receber??,

11. e paraochiamos desta Fregueisa de Sam Mattheus, moradores do lugar 
12. da Prayha do Galleao desta mesma Freguesia, neto paterno do Ma-
13. noel Pereira Evangelho, e do Maria Thereza, e materna do Francisco
14. Garcia, e de Maria Anna.  Foi padrinho Antonio [?] Madruga [I think],
15. solteiro, maritimo, e madrinha Marianna Luzia, solteira; os qua-
16. es todos foi serem os proprios. E para constas lavrei em dupli-
17. cado esta assento, que depos de sertido, e conferido perante os pad[??]
18. nhos comigo nao assignarao por nao sabem escriver.  Era ut Supra

19. Vigario Andre Avelhino [Avellino?] de Sousa


and translation:

1. On the twenty seventh day of the month of September of
2. the year 1874, in this Parochial Church 
3. of Sao Matheus, District of Magdalena, Pico Island, Diocese 
4. of Angra, I solemnly baptized an individual of the masculine 
5. sex, who I gave the name Jacintho, and who was born in this 
6. Parish at 3 o'clock in the afternoon on the 17th day of the current
7. month, and year, legitimate son of Manoel Pereira Evangelho, farmer, 
8. native of this Parish, and of Rita Luiza, employed 
9. in [the] domestic governance [of her house],  native of the Parish of 
Bandeiras, of this
10. same District, and Diocese, in which Parish they were married

11. and [they are] Parishoners of this Parish of Sao Matheus, [and] residents 
of the locale 
12. of Praia do Galleao of this same Parish, paternal grandson of 
13. Manoel Pereira Evangelho, and of Maria Thereza, and maternal of Francisco 
14. Garcia, and of Maria Anna.  [The] godfather was Antonio ?? Madruga [not 
sure], 
15. single, sailor, and godmother Marianna Luzia, single; 


16. os quaes todos foi serem os propios. E para constas lavrei em duplicado 
17. esta assento, que depos de sertido, e conferido perante 

this section is more or less standard wording attesting that the ceremony [and 
all religious/legal requirements] was properly completed

18. os padrinhos comigo nao assignarao por nao sabem escriver

The godparents here with me did not sign [the baptismal register] because they 
do not know how to write

18. Era ut Supra = Latin for it was as above, i.e., an attestation that the 
baptism described above occurred as stated

19. Vigario = Vicar

hum individuo: humand huma are archaic forms of um and uma

I'm not a native speaker, so please everyone please forgive the typos and 
errors in transcriptions-- especially with respect to the verb forms and 
tenses-- and I'm unfamiliar with the locations, so there may be errors with 
those as well

best wishes,

Linda







On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 at 4:25:54 PM UTC-8, Mary Pimentel Wheeler wrote:
I finally found a record in somewhat legible handwriting (yay!!), so I'm trying 
my very first translation from Portuguese to English.  I had trouble making out 
some of the words, and cannot find translations for others (using Google 
Translate).  If anyone has the time, I would really appreciate a review of my 
translation, and some help with the pertinent facts.  I've attached the 
document I'm working from - with the images of the records and my (attempt) at 
writing it out and translating.

Key facts I take from this translation:

Jacintho Evangelho (My maternal Great Grandfather)
Baptized 27 Sept 1984, Church of San Mattheus, Madelena, Pico
Legitimate son of Manuel Pereira Evangelho (farmer) of this parish, and Maria 
Luiza (domestic?), a native of Banderias, in whose parish they were received 
(married?)
There is something about residents of Praynha Galleas?
He is the paternal grandson of Manuel Pereira Evangelho and Maria Teresa (the 
mother of Francisco Garcia and Maria Anna? Would these be his maternal aunt  
uncle?)
The Godfather is Antonio (cannot read last name), who is single and a 
maritimo (sailor?).  
The Godmother is Mariana Luiza, single 

[AZORES-Genealogy] Transcription help please

[Edna Epps]

Bottom left going onto top right of page.
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1772-1808/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1772-1808_item1/P36.html

I think it says something like this??  “On 24 day month of August 1780 ? This 
Parish Santa Barbara (?) bring presented ?Machado Bdo Serv Ouicero ??Francisco 
Ignacio Xavier Whiton  that Aila priest ??? to receive Sargent Manoel Sylveira 
de Mideros  son of Francisco Silveira de Mideros  and Isabel Maria dead ?, 
with Anna Maria daughter of Antonio  de Rosa and his wife Josepha de Rosa all 
natives of this parish where  both received...”. I am really not sure of 
the parents names and not sure if it says that the groom was from this village 
or not.

Thanks for any help.
Edna
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[AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Transcription help needed.

[Edna Epps]

Could I please get some help on this birth record for Anna. at 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-B-1706-1760/FAL-HT-CAPELO-B-1706-1760_item1/P148.html
 Bottom record on right hand side. Anna daughter of Francisco Dutra and his 
wife Anna Sylveira natives this village  (?) she was born on 2nd day of Month 
of March 1745 and baptised on 6th day same month and year.  I think the name of 
the priest ? Cardoza.for Godparents or GodFather ? Antonio son of Mathius 
de Souto and his wife Margurita Goularte and..? Sylveira  wife of Antonio 
Sylveira de Faria ..then “maybe” all Godparents are known and of this parish or 
something like that...  Just really not sure on the Godparents names or 
connections.

Thanks for any help you can give me.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores Genealogy Conference and Research Trip, Salt Lake City, April 7-10, 2015

[Edna Epps]

Cheri, will there be a little more information on understanding DNA?
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On Jan 30, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes)

NOTE: Although this is titled Azores Genealogy Conference it is open to 
anyone with Portuguese ancestry.  The only thing we don't cover is the Madeiran 
ARM, but there are people in our group who can assist with that database.  
Madeirans and Cape Verdeans are welcome to attend.

Once again, we are hosting the Azores Genealogical Conference and Research Trip 
in Salt Lake City, at the Plaza Hotel, next door to the Family History Library! 
 Joao Ventura, from Terceira, will be attending and speaking along with me and 
Rosemarie Capodicci.  It will be held Tuesday, April 7th through Friday, April 
10th (this is right after Easter).  The meet and greet will be held Monday 
night between the hours of 7:30 - 9:30 pm for those arriving the day before.

We designed the conference to give you enough information in the beginning so 
we can help you after dinner and a good part of the day on Friday.  A lot of 
the magic happens after the classes.  We will have a sign up sheet this year 
for 30 minute slots with Joao, Cheri, or Rosemarie.  We will sit with you and 
go though document by document.  We want you to be successful!

The conference fees will remain at $80 this year for 4 days of classes and 
research assistance.  Money must be mailed by Friday, March 20th.  After that, 
the fee will be $100 at the door.  International people email me, Cheri, off 
list, as converting funds at your bank may be a headache for you.

We were able to secure the genealogy special again at the Plaza Hotel.  The 
special is the Stay 3 nights and get the 4th free at the rate of $85 a night 
(plus all the taxes and stuff).  The regular room rate is $129 a night.  Your 
room must be booked by Friday, March 6th.

NOTE:  There will NOT be another genealogy conference for at least 18-24 months 
after this one.  So NO genealogy conference in April 2016.

If you want the registration, I can attach it in an email to you (between the 
group filter and various ISPs, I know it will get to you).  Kathy Cardoza will 
post it on the Azores GenWeb.  I just sent it to her and I don't know her plans 
this weekend, so it may be a few days before she gets it upload.  I'll post 
that link when it is available.

Hope to see many of you there!
Cheri, Rosemarie, and Joao Ventura from Terceira

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[AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Francisco Pereira de Faria

[Edna Epps]

Could someone help me read the top record on this Passport page:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1908-1920/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1908-1920_item1/P60.html

I can read most of it except who Francisco was traveling with.I think it’s 
his wife Anna Pereira Faria  and maybe brother Jose ..but not sure what it says 
after that. I think this is my grandfather’s brother . 

Thank you,


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help for Death Record

[Edna Epps]

Just a thought is maybe they died in an earthquake?  They have quite a few 
there and often the little rock houses fall.  Just a thought I had when I read 
about the first burial being located in the middle of the principal door?? 

Edna
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for you and to ask that you may be filled with the knowledge of His will in all 
spiritual wisdom and understanding,  so that you will walk in a manner worthy 
of the Lord, to please Him in all respects, bearing fruit in every good work 
and increasing in the knowledge of God;  strengthened with all power, according 
to His glorious might, for the attaining of all steadfastness and patience; 
joyously  giving thanks to the Father, who has qualified us to share in the 
inheritance of the saints in Light.





On Jan 24, 2015, at 6:54 AM, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote:

Diane,

The priest wrote multiple deaths in the same obit.  I've seen it before in the 
case of accidents when they hall happened to die together but in this case the 
priest does not specify.  Here's the gist of it:

On January 23rd 1705 we buried Francisco De Utra Machado and Maria da Rosa wife 
of Francisco of rua de cima street above naturals and living in this parish 
of Santa Catarina, Castelo Branco Place of this island of Faiial.  First burial 
is located in the middle of the principal door/entrance door

On the 2nd page you can better read as he wrote:

All received the Sacraments and for his soul the wife of Francisco Gularte was 
obligated of ordering masses said for his soul. etc  Because some of the belong 
to the Society of the Souls they had extra prayers said for themand he 
closing 

Deceased are Francisco De Utra Machado, 60 years old.  Antonio Alvernas, 65 
years old and Maria da Rosa, 21 years old.





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Hi,

 

I have been searching for the death record for Francisco Dutra Machado on 
January 22, 1705. I found a record at 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-O-1643-1722/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-O-1643-1722_item1/P122.html
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-O-1643-1722/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-O-1643-1722_item1/P122.html
 (bottom entry, right page), continuing onto the next page. I see his name in 
the record, but the rest of it does not look like anything I have seen before 
so I am having difficulty translating the rest. Can anyone help?

 

Diane George


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Horta Passport

[Edna Epps]

My Grandfather, Antonio Pereira DeFaria was also from Faial and had blue eyes 
and fair skin.  Our family is like that too so I'm not surprised either.;)
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on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts. 

On Jan 21, 2015, at 9:59 AM, Joan Jurancich joa...@surewest.net wrote:

Not actually surprising to me. My great-aunt told me that her father (from 
Faial) was blue-eyed, fair skinned, and with strawberry blonde hair. He was a 
farmer and used to get very red-skinned after working in the California sun.

 
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On 01/17/2015 11:15 AM, mnk wrote:

 Interesting that they list him as blue eyed, light skin, and blonde beard! 
 Mnk


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport columns?

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Thank you Hermano!   I'm not familiar with the Passports and have had a very 
difficult time trying to read them!

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On Jan 18, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Hermano C. Pires lagoe...@hotmail.com wrote:

Not all follow the same patern but I had a look for one in 1920. In order, left 
to right:
- Dates (year, month, day)
- Passport number
- Names
- Marital status
- Profession
- Age
- sinaes caracteristicos Unique charactristics (height, face, hair, 
sob-olhos lit. under the eyes, eyes, nose,  mouth, colour). sob-olhos threw 
me for a loop, what is so unique about one's lower lid ?
- Destination
- Others traveling with 
- Places of birth (islands, councils, vilages) - for vilages read also Parishes
- Ability to write (male, female)
- Ship's name
- Obsevations 
 
Had a quick look at others from previuos years and the order is not exactly the 
same!
 
That is it in a nut shell. Hope that it helps.
Hermano

 
From: digeorg...@hotmail.com
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport columns?
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 13:48:37 -0800

I’m with Kathy. I can figure out some, but not all the headings. If anyone 
knows where to find the info about the headings, it would really help.
 
Diane George
  
From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kathy Cardoza
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 1:06 PM
To: Azores Google Group
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport columns?
 
Like a lot of us, I'm sure, I'm enjoying looking for ancestors in the Horta 
passports. I can read most of the column headings; name, age, status, 
occupation, where born, ship name, destination ... But, what are the other 
column headings? Does anyone have a breakdown of these. Maybe I need new 
glasses, LOL.

Kathy


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genetic Distance on Y-DNA

[Edna Epps]

Thanks Cheri, this was helpful to me!

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On Jan 2, 2015, at 5:54 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

Since a few results from the beginning of the Holiday DNA Sale will begin to 
hit us next week, I thought now might be a good time to go over this.

Y-DNA:  The top of the pedigree chart.  Y-DNA traces a man's father's father's 
father's line only.  All men, all the way back.  A man must take this test.  If 
you're a man, you are in luck.  If you are not a male, you'll need your 
brother, your uncle, a male cousin whose father's father's father's line is the 
one you want.  

What you get back is a string of numbers.  Let's say you are the guy on top and 
your match is the guy on the bottom.
13  23  14  11  
11-14   12  12  
12  13  13  
29
13  24  14  11  
11-14   12  12  
12  13  13  
29
(Don't get too excited over my example.  I used the Western Atlantic Modal 
Haplotype).

What this means is you and your match have what is called a genetic distance of 
one.  Genetic genealogists are a bit acronym obsessed, so they write GD=1.

What it REALLY means though depends on the number of markers you test.  For a 
genealogical match, you need to test 37 or more markers (the tests are for 37, 
67, and 111 markers).  There is nothing wrong with starting at the 12 marker 
level and upgrading to the 37 or higher marker level as your budget may allow.  
Just don't expect anything meaningful from a 12 or 25 marker match.

Here is Family Tree DNA's handy dandy chart if figuring out if the genetic 
distance is meaningful or not at the higher marker levels.
37 markers: http://goo.gl/VnivpP http://goo.gl/VnivpP
67 markers: http://goo.gl/GAU7zc http://goo.gl/GAU7zc
111 markers: http://goo.gl/nvG0Hp http://goo.gl/nvG0Hp
(FTDNA loves to rearrange things, so I just go to Google and type in: genetic 
distance  markers)

My dad has no 37 or 67 marker matches.  He has 12 and 25 marker matches, but I 
have the 12 marker turned off (he is grayed out if anyone matches him).  This 
is under the Settings tab, if anyone gets too many emails about this level of 
matching.

Cheri Mello
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Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Happy New Years!

[Edna Epps]

I too want to wish all of you a very Happy, Healthy New Year and hope we all 
root out a bunch of new cousins this year!!!;)
Edna 
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The fear of the Lord adds length to life, but the years of
the wicked are short.
 

On Jan 1, 2015, at 1:46 PM, Hermano C. Pires lagoe...@hotmail.com wrote:

A Happy, Healthy and Prosperous New Year replete with new found relatives.
Hermano

 
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2015 10:33:36 -0800
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Happy New Years!
From: rcap...@gmail.com
To: azores@googlegroups.com

Happy New Year to everyone! May your year be happy and healthy! 


Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Emil ehsilve...@comcast.net 
mailto:ehsilve...@comcast.net wrote:
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL!

Emil 

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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Happy New Years!


I Just wanted to wish everyone a Happy New Years.

Antonio


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] myorigins results

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I don't really know what this all means but...this is what the Gedmatch Jtest 
showed on my DNA:
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC7.17%
EAST_EURO   3.54%
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO  19.38%
ATLANTIC26.14%
WEST_MED17.11%
ASHKENAZI   7.33%
EAST_MED10.20%
WEST_ASIAN  0.66%
MIDDLE_EASTERN  5.22%
SOUTH_ASIAN - 
EAST_AFRICAN2.26%
EAST_ASIAN  - 
SIBERIAN- 
WEST_AFRICAN0.98%



 
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Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, who mind is stayed on thee:
because he trusteth in thee.
 




On Dec 28, 2014, at 12:52 PM, A Faria antoniof1...@gmail.com wrote:

Here is a link for the Gedmatch Jtest averages for select populations, the 
average Ashkenazi result for Portuguese people in their sample is 5.56%.

http://bga101.blogspot.com.au/2012/09/eurogenes-ashkenazim-ancestry-test-files.html

Antonio



On Thursday, December 4, 2014 4:34:51 PM UTC-8, A Faria wrote:
These are our Gedmatch results using the Jtest calculator.  It picks up some 
things that myorigins doesn't.

My Results.

opulation
SOUTH_BALTIC7.74%
EAST_EURO   4.86%
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO  16.43%
ATLANTIC24.18%
WEST_MED21.48%
ASHKENAZI   6.83%
EAST_MED8.40%
WEST_ASIAN  4.03%
MIDDLE_EASTERN  4.15%
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN0.59%
EAST_ASIAN  -
SIBERIAN-
WEST_AFRICAN1.32%






My Fathers Results


Population   
SOUTH_BALTIC8.38%
EAST_EURO   4.15%
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO  16.91%
ATLANTIC26.07%
WEST_MED20.58%
ASHKENAZI   5.61%
EAST_MED8.39%
WEST_ASIAN  -
MIDDLE_EASTERN  7.90%
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN0.97%
EAST_ASIAN  0.27%
SIBERIAN-
WEST_AFRICAN0.76%



  My Mothers Results.


Population   
SOUTH_BALTIC5.87%
EAST_EURO   6.70%
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO  16.71%
ATLANTIC23.30%
WEST_MED21.77%
ASHKENAZI   8.40%
EAST_MED8.41%
WEST_ASIAN  1.30%
MIDDLE_EASTERN  4.74%
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN1.17%
EAST_ASIAN  -
SIBERIAN-
WEST_AFRICAN1.64%



  


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] myorigins results

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Here are my Gedmatch results using the Eurogenes EUtest V2K15 model
Population
North_Sea   23.69%
Atlantic29.30%
Baltic  8.14%
Eastern_Euro1.13%
West_Med16.40%
West_Asian  2.87%
East_Med11.96%
Red_Sea 2.11%
South_Asian - 
Southeast_Asian - 
Siberian- 
Amerindian  - 
Oceanian0.18%
Northeast_African   3.54%
Sub-Saharan 0.66%



 
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Even to your old age and gray hairs I am He, I am
He who will sustain you.  I have made you and I will
carry you; I will sustain you and I will rescue you.
 

On Dec 28, 2014, at 12:52 PM, A Faria antoniof1...@gmail.com wrote:

Here is a link for the Gedmatch Jtest averages for select populations, the 
average Ashkenazi result for Portuguese people in their sample is 5.56%.

http://bga101.blogspot.com.au/2012/09/eurogenes-ashkenazim-ancestry-test-files.html

Antonio



On Thursday, December 4, 2014 4:34:51 PM UTC-8, A Faria wrote:
These are our Gedmatch results using the Jtest calculator.  It picks up some 
things that myorigins doesn't.

My Results.

opulation
SOUTH_BALTIC7.74%
EAST_EURO   4.86%
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO  16.43%
ATLANTIC24.18%
WEST_MED21.48%
ASHKENAZI   6.83%
EAST_MED8.40%
WEST_ASIAN  4.03%
MIDDLE_EASTERN  4.15%
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN0.59%
EAST_ASIAN  -
SIBERIAN-
WEST_AFRICAN1.32%






My Fathers Results


Population   
SOUTH_BALTIC8.38%
EAST_EURO   4.15%
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO  16.91%
ATLANTIC26.07%
WEST_MED20.58%
ASHKENAZI   5.61%
EAST_MED8.39%
WEST_ASIAN  -
MIDDLE_EASTERN  7.90%
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN0.97%
EAST_ASIAN  0.27%
SIBERIAN-
WEST_AFRICAN0.76%



  My Mothers Results.


Population   
SOUTH_BALTIC5.87%
EAST_EURO   6.70%
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO  16.71%
ATLANTIC23.30%
WEST_MED21.77%
ASHKENAZI   8.40%
EAST_MED8.41%
WEST_ASIAN  1.30%
MIDDLE_EASTERN  4.74%
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN1.17%
EAST_ASIAN  -
SIBERIAN-
WEST_AFRICAN1.64%



  


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[AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Help with Marriage record on Jose Duarte

[Edna Epps]

I need help reading the names of the brides parents.  It’s sort of in the 
middle of the page on the right..Maria de S. Jose daughter legitimate  of Joao 
Sylveira ?  .Dutra maybe  and Maria de S. Jose.
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1818-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1818-1836_item1/P15.html

Thanks in advance.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Merry Christmas, Feliz Natal, Boas Festas thread

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Wishing all a very Merry Christmas!

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Transferring your DNA from Ancestry.com or 23andMe

[Edna Epps]

Thanks Cheri for this information!   I am not transferring my Mother's sister's 
DNA and also my son's to FTDNA.;)

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On Dec 8, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

I keep forgetting to mention this.

Those who have tested at Ancestry or 23andMe (v.3 chip) can transfer their data 
to Family Tree DNA for free!  However, the freebie account only allows you to 
view your top 20 matches.  If you want to use any of FTDNA's tools or contact 
your matches, you'd need to pay the $39 transfer fee.  But with the Holiday 
Sale, I can get you $5 or $10 off the transfer fee.

Transfer here: goo.gl/OqRsGm http://goo.gl/OqRsGm

After transferring, log into your FTDNA account, point at MyProject and click 
Join.  When the next screen opens, scroll down to where it says Search By 
Surname and type in Azores or Madeira.  When the next screen pops up, click on 
the link and follow the links to the end where there is a Join button.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Transferring your DNA from Ancestry.com or 23andMe

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I meant now transferring my Aunt and sons Ancestry DNA.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CCA concludes the Azores parish records project (aka Ribeirinha records are now online)

[Edna Epps]

I'm with you Rosemarie!   I love being able to search at home!!   I will send 
them a note for sure!;)  
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 On Nov 17, 2014, at 3:53 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci rcap...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Good idea, Cheri. I have done so and hope that others will write and thank 
 them for making these records available to us all in the comfort of our own 
 homes! When I think of the hours that I spent looking at the microfilm for 
 years and can now read them from my own home computer, I am amazed! 
 
 
 
 Rosemarie
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 Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, and Pico, Azores,
 Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia Sicily
 
 On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com 
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 Maybe we should email the CCA and thank them.  They will read English or 
 Portuguese.
 drac@azores.gov.pt mailto:drac@azores.gov.pt
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 2 Joao Venturas: Joao Ventura versus Joao C. Ventura

[Edna Epps]

:)..Well I truly appreciate both of you Joao's and all the work and help that 
you give to us that have Azorean/Portuguese lines to search!  Unfortunately my 
parents did not speak Portuguese enough for me to learn the language, but I 
love learning to read the records and when I find a cousin I get so excited!;) 
Both of my parents' families are from the Azores, one from Faial and the other 
from Sao Jorge.

Edna
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earth peace, goodwill toward men! 
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On Aug 5, 2014, at 12:59 AM, João Ventura j...@venturas.org wrote:

 Yes,
 
 I also get confused from time to time :) I dropped the 'C' part in my sig, 
 but the sig always includes the link to the tombo site.
 
 Joao Ventura
 http://tombo.pt/en
 
 On Tuesday, 5 August 2014 05:46:51 UTC+2, Cheri Mello wrote:
 Edna,
 
 Think of Joao C. as Joao Computers.  He does the computer stuff, like builds 
 a Web site to crawl the CCA site.
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches to the British Isles and Ireland

[Edna Epps]

Thank you, Tomas!   That was very interesting and informative!
Edna
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On Aug 5, 2014, at 3:31 AM, MaryAnn Santos m...@nyu.edu wrote:

 Fascinating, Tomás
 
 
 On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 5:15 AM, Tomas Leal tomasl...@comcast.net wrote:
 I too was surprised that my Y-DNA results were simply Celtic, which I've 
 always associated with Ireland and the British Isles--my mother's side. What 
 was more surprising is the long line of males on my paternal side--the Y 
 chromosome sources--coming up Celtic, so I was a bit confused.
 
 I dug into some history and found there were TWO Celtic migrations, both from 
 central Europe westward. The second one swept up through modern-day France 
 and across the channel to Ireland and the British Isles, and the timing of 
 this one covers the period of the Norman Invasion. What was news to me was 
 the much earlier one that turned southward and went into the Iberian 
 Peninsula and settled in the area of Galicia. Then I learned that the 
 Portuguese language is derived from Galician, as is modern Spanish. Thus, 
 Celtic made more sense for my Y-DNA line, making Portuguese a Celtic 
 language. Even today, Galician folk songs and dances (viewable on YouTube) 
 resemble what I've seen in both Ireland and in the Azores.
 
 Further, I found that the Celtic genes do appear in some people from 
 Flanders, though not a majority. My paternal line is from Flamengos, Faial, 
 which as many on this list know was settled by Flemish colonists, so it's 
 possible the Celtic strain from Flanders into Galicia made it to Faial as 
 well. Wilhelm van der Haagen was a leader of this colonization (at the 
 invitation of the Portuguese king), and he adopted a Portuguese translation 
 of his name: Guilermo Silveira. The Germanic haag is the equivalent of the 
 Portguese silveira, a name that appears in the middle of every male on my 
 paternal side from my grandfather to the grandfather of my great-grandfather 
 (as far back as I know names, so far). Further, three of van der Haagen's 
 children (two daughters and one son) are known to have settled and died in 
 Flamengos. Most of us know the Portuguese tradition of using the mother's 
 family name as a middle name for many offspring, but Azoreans also seem to 
 use family names to indicate connection with land as well. A woman might 
 retain her family name after marriage if the couple remained on land her 
 family had owned, for example.
 
 Thus, a supposition I'm trying to track down is that the males on my paternal 
 line had some connection with a female some generations earlier who owned 
 land in the Valley of the Flemish (Vale dos Flamengos is still used as a 
 name for the area) and whose family name was Silveira, possibly one of van 
 der Haagen's daughters. A Leal married a Silveira and moved to live on her 
 family's land. The second part of my hypothesis is that even though Silveira 
 is a fairly common Portuguese name (similar to Smith in the U.S. in 
 occurence), the persistence of its use with males in my paternal line has 
 something to do with a desire to indicate a connection to the original 
 Silveiras--the children of van der Haagen. None of my Faialense relatives 
 knows of any such distant connection, but there is little knowedge at all 
 among them about previous generations. For people living in subsistence, 
 focus was more on present-day survival than ancestry records, so it's not 
 surprising so little is known further back than a generation or two.
 
 Tomás Leal
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 2 Joao Venturas: Joao Ventura versus Joao C. Ventura

[Edna Epps]

Thanks Cheri.;)  I'm not real new to this list but I didn't know that.;)   I 
always thought there was only one!;)   Now I know.  

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On Aug 3, 2014, at 10:18 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 There are new people to this list and some may have missed the previous 
 announcement.
 
 We have 2 Joao Ventura's on this list.
 
 The archivist who lives in Terceira is Joao Ventura.  He does research for 
 hire. He will always sign his name as Joao Ventura.
 
 The computer software engineer lives in Germany and is Joao C. Ventura.  He 
 made the tombo.pt website to crawl the CCA.  He will always sign his name as 
 Joao C. Ventura.
 
 Joao C. Ventura, computers, in Germany, does not do research for hire and is 
 NOT the same guy as  Joao Ventura on Terceira.
 
 Now we all know what it was like to live in a little freguesia with people 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 2 Joao Venturas: Joao Ventura versus Joao C. Ventura

[Edna Epps]

Cheri I have been picturing the archivist for all this time!  Especially while 
I've been reading the records on the Tombo.pt site.:) Thanks again for 
clarifying for me.

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On Aug 4, 2014, at 10:00 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 Edna,
 
 Joao Ventura, the archivist that you met in Salt Lake, is NOT Joao C. 
 Ventura.  Joao C. posts more than Joao the archivist.  So don't picture him 
 in your mind!
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with parents in marriage record - Flamengos, Faial

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I think the grooms Mother is Barbara  Luizaand I think after Sao Joao 
Baptista says something about  living on the Island of Pico? The Pi is on one 
line and Co on the other??   The bride's name I think is Isabel Rosario. ( In 
the margin it show Isabel Roz ro)  The bride's mother may be Maria Luiza ??   . 
  That's just my thoughts.;)
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On Jul 27, 2014, at 5:53 AM, Lee shorts...@suddenlink.net wrote:

 Rick,
  
 Thank you.
  
 That is what had me completely confused.   I could see other names, place but 
 could only make out a word or two of it.
  
 I could/can see something about Matriz da ?? Trinidade?
  
 Again, thanks!
 
 On Sunday, July 27, 2014 7:28:42 AM UTC-4, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote:
 This is not a common type or record . I cannot make all of it out someone 
 else can help but I make enough of it out to see it reads Jose Sylveira 
 father unknown and his mother Rosario Sylveira slave of Captain Gregorio 
 Perriera being deceased and  this is where I have difficulty) of the parish 
 Sao Joao Baptista and it goes on describing a location and that he was 
 baptized. I cannot make the brides mothers name out. Both the bride's parents 
 are deceased.
 
  
 
 Rick
 
  
 Richard Francis Pimentel
 
 Epping, NH
 
  
  
 
 From: azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Lee
 Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 1:15 AM
 To: azo...@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with parents in marriage record - Flamengos, 
 Faial
 
  
 I'd like to request a little help with the marriage record of Jose Sylveira 
 and Isabel do Rosario (right page, top)
 
  
 I am having trouble two items on this document.  f
 
  
 1.  I can clearly see that the father of the groom is pai incognito - the 
 mothers name looks like (Barbara Sylveira??)  I can see a lot of other names 
 after her name and I'm not sure who they are?  One looks like Gregorio 
 Periera.
 
  
 2.  Brides mother looks like Maria Deiero??  Or am I reading that incorrectly?
 
  
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-C-1722-1758/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-C-1722-1758_item1/P96.html
 
  
 Any and all help greatly appreciated.
 
  
 Lee Estep,
 
 Oak Hill WV
 
  
  
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Centro de Conhecimento dos Açores - Registos Paroquiais

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Looks like P.ra to me. Pereira.  
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On Jul 24, 2014, at 10:28 PM, Dolores djve...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Could someone offer an opinion on father's name? Looks like Francisco P.ra 
 but could it be T.xa? Bottom entry for Bar.meu. thank you. Dolores Vener
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-1634-1713/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-1634-1713_item1/P247.html
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Jose Correia Borba born 7 July 1875 on Pico to California married Lemos

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Antonio, I am wondering if the family records could mean Piedade rather than 
Pico?   My Lemos family is from Sao Jorge.  I have just started looking at this 
Borba line so really just posted my note to see if someone else may have 
something that might help me.;)  Thanks for your input.

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On Jul 21, 2014, at 7:59 PM, A Faria antoniof1...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 Hi Cheri
 
 That is a surname very rarely found on Pico I have one in one of my line's in 
 the early 1700's from Piedade it is found much more frequently in Sao Jorge.
 
 Antonio
 
 
 
 On Sunday, July 20, 2014 9:54:39 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
 Repost for Edna Lemos Epps,dave-edna at comcast.net
 
 I don't suppose anyone has a connection with a Joseph Coreia Borba dob 
 7-7-1875 in Pico?  I don't know village.  He came to USA in 1891 and settled 
 in Northern California, Yreka or Hawkinsville area in Siskiyou, County.  He 
 married a Emilia Rose Lemos there in 1910.  Emilia is a sister to my 
 Grandfather George Lemos.  Just curious as I see the Borba name on here.
 ♥Edna Lemos Epps
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jose Correia Borba born 7 July 1875 on Pico to California married Lemos

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Wow..Eric, thank you SO MUCH for all this information!   My head is spinning.;) 
  I haven't been on here today till now!!   I need to get my nose into my 
records and take a look at all that you have found for me!  I really was 
questioning the Pico location.  Thank you so much for all the leads!!;)
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On Jul 22, 2014, at 11:13 AM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have come across a confusion with Pico as an origin a few times now.
 
 Although the census show Pico, and the family lore says from Pico, it has 
 turned out to be Pico da Pedra in Ribeira Grande , Sao Miguel.
 
 Eric Edgar
 
 
 On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 10:36 PM, Edna Epps dave-e...@comcast.net wrote:
 Antonio, I am wondering if the family records could mean Piedade rather 
 than Pico?   My Lemos family is from Sao Jorge.  I have just started looking 
 at this Borba line so really just posted my note to see if someone else may 
 have something that might help me.;)  Thanks for your input.
 
 Edna (dave-e...@comcast.net
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 On Jul 21, 2014, at 7:59 PM, A Faria antoniof1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Hi Cheri
 
 That is a surname very rarely found on Pico I have one in one of my line's 
 in the early 1700's from Piedade it is found much more frequently in Sao 
 Jorge.
 
 Antonio
 
 
 
 On Sunday, July 20, 2014 9:54:39 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
 Repost for Edna Lemos Epps,dave-edna at comcast.net
 
 I don't suppose anyone has a connection with a Joseph Coreia Borba dob 
 7-7-1875 in Pico?  I don't know village.  He came to USA in 1891 and settled 
 in Northern California, Yreka or Hawkinsville area in Siskiyou, County.  He 
 married a Emilia Rose Lemos there in 1910.  Emilia is a sister to my 
 Grandfather George Lemos.  Just curious as I see the Borba name on here.
 ♥Edna Lemos Epps
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help, mom's name

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Hi Eddie,

I'm kind of new at this too but I think you have done pretty well.   I think 
the mother's name is Britta (maybe Ritta) Victorina.  On paternal Grandmother 
it looks like there is a de jesus after Maria Isabel. The date is the birth 
date and I think it's 8-15-1819 (?)  maybe 1829..since it looks like records 
before were 1827???   Really not sure of the year.  God parents  Godfather 
looks like Joaquin de Azevedo de Borba,I think Godmother's name is Barbara 
Jacinta de Azevedo.

Well..hope this will help some.

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On Jul 20, 2014, at 8:58 AM, Eddie Machado avidedito...@gmail.com wrote:

 You think I would remember the most important part
 
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-1825-1839/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-1825-1839_item1/P265.html
 
 Thanks
 
 On Sunday, July 20, 2014 11:54:53 AM UTC-4, DiG wrote:
 Hi,
 
  
 What's the link?
 
  
 Diane
 
  
 
 From: azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Eddie Machado
 Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 8:03 AM
 To: azo...@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help, mom's name
 
  
 Hi all, I once again need a little help with the translations. I can't read 
 the mom's name or the exact year. Here is what I have:
 
  
 Manuel son of Jorge d' Azevedo Machado and (Can't read mom's name)
 
 Paternal grandparents are Manuel d' Azevedo Machado and Maria Isabel
 
 Maternal grandparents are Joam? d' Azevedo de Borba and Anna d' Azevedo?
 
 The date I read is 15th of August 18? and not sure if this is the birth or 
 baptism day
 
 godparents are Joaquim d' Azevedo Machado and Juinita? d' Azevedo
 
  
 Thanks for any help,
 
  
 Eddie
 
  
  
  
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Help please:

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Record : 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-B-1745-1791/FAL-HT-CEDROS-B-1745-1791_item1/P167.html
 Bottom on right side for Manuel.  All I need is help reading the name of the 
freguesia that his Mother Anna Silveira is from.  Thanks.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Accurate place name

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I have a question that is probably remedial, but how to you type Acores with 
that little tail under the c?

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On Jul 4, 2014, at 10:32 AM, João Ventura j...@venturas.org wrote:

 Hi Mara,
 
 Sorry to correct you, but upto 1976 the island of São Jorge used to belong to 
 the district of Angra do Heroísmo. For place names in mainland Portugal, it 
 makes sense to use one of the following:
 
 - parish, municipality, district, Portugal (e.g. Queluz, Sintra, Lisboa, 
 Portugal); or,
 - Portugal, district, municipality, parish (e.g. Portugal, Lisboa, Sintra, 
 Queluz)
 
 Which one you use depends a lot on your preference. A parish in São Jorge 
 following the above scheme would indeed include something like São Jorge, 
 Velas, Angra do Heroísmo, Portugal (for http://tombo.pt/en/f/vls05). When I 
 created the tombo.pt website, I actually followed this. But as it was 
 confusing to everyone, I dropped the old districts and in the case of Azores, 
 I recomend to use the following:
 
 - parish, municipality, island, Açores, Portugal, or
 - Portugal, Açores, island, municipality, parish.
 
 I'd recommend to never translate the place names (i.e. use Açores, and Lisboa 
 instead of Azores and Lisbon). It only confuses when people decide to 
 translate São Miguel to St. Michael, but they don't translate Flores to 
 Flowers.
 
 Best regards,
 
 João Ventura
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 On Friday, 4 July 2014 17:41:34 UTC+2, Mara wrote:
 Hi Donna,
 
 Do not accept the auto fill suggestions because they are wrong.  Names of the 
 islands should never be converted ie. São Jorge (S. Jorge) to St. George.  
 Azores is acceptable as it is the region and a recognizable/acceptable EN 
 translation.
 
 Angra do Heroismo is the capital city of the island of Terceira, nothing to 
 do with the island of S. Jorge.
 
 
 On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 6:38 PM, Donna Olovson don...@mac.com wrote:
 I am compiling my family info for familysearch Family Tree. When I'm typing 
 the place of birth in this program, the computer autofills.  It always 
 includes the term  Angra do Heroísmo
 
  
 
 The autofilled standard insert for place of birth automatically pops up as :
 
  
 
St George, Angra do Heroísmo, Azores, Portugal
 
  
 
 What I actually typed was: 
 
  
 
   Village of Rosais, Council of Velas, São Jorge, Azores
 
  
 
 So the standard replacement that autofilled my record didn't include the 
 village or Council.
 
  
 
 Can someone tell me if  Angra do Heroísmois accurate for the name of 
 the place where he was born_ 
 
  
 
 Thank you in advance for any help. -DonnaO
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Diacritics

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Thanks Cheri.   I use a MAC and I found that if you hold Option key and the 
letter c you get ç.  Now I know.;)
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 I have a question that is probably remedial, but how to you type Acores 
 with that little tail under the c?
 Edna
 
 If you are a PC user, there's a way to have your keyboard have a Portuguese 
 layout instead of the American Qwerty.
 
 Also, Windows has a Character Map.
 
 Since I have a thing for numbers, I've memorized the code.  Hold ALT on your 
 keyboard and type 135 on the NUMBER pad (not above your Qwerty line).  
 
 Those are 3 methods.  Maybe someone has another way as well.
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Diacritics

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Thanks Joanne, that makes it even easier!   Who said you can't teach an old dog 
new tricks!;)   I very much appreciate the help.
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On Jul 4, 2014, at 6:57 PM, Joanne Mercier musicmavene...@gmail.com wrote:

 On a Mac just hold down the letter until a small window opens to show the 
 different language characters that are available for that letter. Type the 
 number to the one you want and you're done. It just works... ;)
 
 Joanne
 
 
 On Jul 4, 2014, at 9:17 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Edna said:
 I have a question that is probably remedial, but how to you type Acores 
 with that little tail under the c?
 Edna
 
 If you are a PC user, there's a way to have your keyboard have a Portuguese 
 layout instead of the American Qwerty.
 
 Also, Windows has a Character Map.
 
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 keyboard and type 135 on the NUMBER pad (not above your Qwerty line).  
 
 Those are 3 methods.  Maybe someone has another way as well.
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help please..

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Thanks Rodney. I'm pretty sure they are the same, but it helps to get other 
eyes to look also.  I so appreciate your help.

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 Hi Edna, 
 
 Yes, I think this is the same Emilia that married José.  All the dates seem 
 to match up.  It says that Emilia married José Garcia do Santo(?) in Horta 
 September 7, 1927 and that she passed away in the parish of Castelo Branco in 
 Horta on March 8, 1967.  
 
 Rodney
 
 On Saturday, June 28, 2014 9:49:28 AM UTC-4, dave-edna wrote:
 Thanks George.   If you saw my other note I wanted the record for Emilia 
 right above the one for Maria.  Sorry.
 
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 On Jun 27, 2014, at 2:56 PM, George Pacheco bretan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 here is the margin Notes for Maria number 8
 
 Number 8 
 
 
 
 
 
 Civil marriage on this conservatory of the Civil Registry of Horta
 
 On the 18th of July 1925 with João Silveira Peixoto .
 
 Marriage record number 58 of 1925. Recorded on the 26th of November 1984 . 
 Adelie Capote.
 
  
 Number 2 The marriage was dissolved by the death of the husband on the 26th 
 of November 1984. And on the marriage record number 58 of 1925, Recorded 
 26th of November 1984Adelie  (Adelio?)Capote
 
 Number 3
 
 Died today in the Village of Praia de Norte, Municipality of Horta.
 
 Record of Obit number 210 of 1987.
 
 Recorded on the 27 of November 1987.
 
 
 
 On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Rodney Figueiredo rod...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Edna, 
 
 The Maria recorded here married a João Silveira Peixoto on July 18, 1925.  
 Her husband died November 26, 1984.  She died November 27, 1987.  
 
 The José married an Emilia Gomes Pereira on September 7, 1927.  His wife 
 passed away on March 8, 1967.  He died October 12, 1978 in Boston.  
 
 
 On Thursday, June 26, 2014 10:05:06 PM UTC-4, dave-edna wrote:
 Both of these birth records have a lot of writing in the margin.  I “think” 
 they “may” have married each other.  One is nephew of my Grandfather, and 
 one is niece of my Grandmother.
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PRAIADONORTE-B-1893-1911/FAL-HT-PRAIADONORTE-B-1893-1911_item1/P128.html
  This is Maria record No 8 bottom left and top right.  The marriage dates on 
 both records look the same, but the death dates for Maria I’m not sure of. 
  
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PRAIADONORTE-B-1893-1911/FAL-HT-PRAIADONORTE-B-1893-1911_item1/P122.html
   This is for Jose, Record No 15 bottom left and top right.  I think Jose 
 died on 10-12-1978 in Boston, Suffolk, Ma. USA.
  
 I think I asked about Maria before, but today my mind is going crazy trying 
 to get all these people recorded correctly in my records, so I need some 
 more minds and brains to help out.
 Thanks.
 Edna Lemos Epps
  
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help please..

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Thanks George.   If you saw my other note I wanted the record for Emilia right 
above the one for Maria.  Sorry.

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On Jun 27, 2014, at 2:56 PM, George Pacheco bretanha1...@gmail.com wrote:

 here is the margin Notes for Maria number 8
 
 Number 8 
 
 
 
 
 
 Civil marriage on this conservatory of the Civil Registry of Horta
 
 On the 18th of July 1925 with João Silveira Peixoto .
 
 Marriage record number 58 of 1925. Recorded on the 26th of November 1984 . 
 Adelie Capote.
 
  
 Number 2 The marriage was dissolved by the death of the husband on the 26th 
 of November 1984. And on the marriage record number 58 of 1925, Recorded 26th 
 of November 1984Adelie  (Adelio?)Capote
 
 Number 3
 
 Died today in the Village of Praia de Norte, Municipality of Horta.
 
 Record of Obit number 210 of 1987.
 
 Recorded on the 27 of November 1987.
 
 
 
 On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Rodney Figueiredo rodn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Edna, 
 
 The Maria recorded here married a João Silveira Peixoto on July 18, 1925.  
 Her husband died November 26, 1984.  She died November 27, 1987.  
 
 The José married an Emilia Gomes Pereira on September 7, 1927.  His wife 
 passed away on March 8, 1967.  He died October 12, 1978 in Boston.  
 
 
 On Thursday, June 26, 2014 10:05:06 PM UTC-4, dave-edna wrote:
 Both of these birth records have a lot of writing in the margin.  I “think” 
 they “may” have married each other.  One is nephew of my Grandfather, and one 
 is niece of my Grandmother.
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PRAIADONORTE-B-1893-1911/FAL-HT-PRAIADONORTE-B-1893-1911_item1/P128.html
  This is Maria record No 8 bottom left and top right.  The marriage dates on 
 both records look the same, but the death dates for Maria I’m not sure of. 
  
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PRAIADONORTE-B-1893-1911/FAL-HT-PRAIADONORTE-B-1893-1911_item1/P122.html
   This is for Jose, Record No 15 bottom left and top right.  I think Jose 
 died on 10-12-1978 in Boston, Suffolk, Ma. USA.
  
 I think I asked about Maria before, but today my mind is going crazy trying 
 to get all these people recorded correctly in my records, so I need some more 
 minds and brains to help out.
 Thanks.
 Edna Lemos Epps
  
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Help please..

[Edna Epps]

Both of these birth records have a lot of writing in the margin.  I “think” 
they “may” have married each other.  One is nephew of my Grandfather, and one 
is niece of my Grandmother.
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PRAIADONORTE-B-1893-1911/FAL-HT-PRAIADONORTE-B-1893-1911_item1/P128.html
 This is Maria record No 8 bottom left and top right.  The marriage dates on 
both records look the same, but the death dates for Maria I’m not sure of.  

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PRAIADONORTE-B-1893-1911/FAL-HT-PRAIADONORTE-B-1893-1911_item1/P122.html
  This is for Jose, Record No 15 bottom left and top right.  I think Jose died 
on 10-12-1978 in Boston, Suffolk, Ma. USA.

I think I asked about Maria before, but today my mind is going crazy trying to 
get all these people recorded correctly in my records, so I need some more 
minds and brains to help out.
Thanks.
Edna Lemos Epps

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[AZORES-Genealogy] RE: I need some help reading record.

[Edna Epps]

Can someone help me read what is in the margin of this birth record: 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PRAIADONORTE-B-1893-1911/FAL-HT-PRAIADONORTE-B-1893-1911_item1/P95.html.
  It’s the one on the right side of the page, No 18 for Antonio.  I think the 
margin says he got married with Angelic (?) Costa ?. I am trying to make Lemos 
at the end of her name but it may be saying where she lived?? Looks like she 
was a native of Santa ? Island of Sao Jorge..then maybe it tells where the 
marriage was recorded in Horta and the marriage was 1-19-1991.  Then I think 
the 2nd note says Antonio died 12-31-1992 and looks like it’s recorded at Horta 
too???  Antonio’s mother is my Maternal Grandmother’s sister.  I can read the 
birth record,I just need some help with the tiny writing in the margin.

Thanks in advance.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestry is up!

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I called Ancestry today, they are still having issues.  I can log on from the 
web site but my Family Tree Maker account won't connect.  Tells me my password 
is wrong, which it isn't.  Also the program is stalling.   The man said that is 
part of their problem and not my computer or my program.   

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On Jun 19, 2014, at 3:06 PM, p...@dholmes.com wrote:

 I just logged in and see this message near the top:
 
 Note:  You may be experiencing some intermittent service with the 
 Ancestry.com website. We apologize for any inconvenience this might cause and 
 appreciate your patience as we work to resolve the problem as quickly as 
 possible.
 
 But so far, I still don't have any of these potential problems.
 
 Doug da Rocha Holmes
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 I was using Ancestry.com all day yesterday without issues.
 
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 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestry is up!
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 Date: Thu, June 19, 2014 11:45 am
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 I just tried Ancestry.com  it worked with my personal account but it was 
 accessible through the portal at our Family History Center. It does have a 
 message that it may not stay up.
 Sherry
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[AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Record for birth Delfina 11-4-1905

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Can someone help me read the notes in the margin on this record:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PRAIADONORTE-B-1893-1911/FAL-HT-PRAIADONORTE-B-1893-1911_item1/P123.html
 Right bottom record for Delfina and it continues on top of next page.  Does 
one note say she married Antonio Francisco Fralho on 9-22-1923?  Did he die 
April 14, 1976?  Then did Delfina die Jan 6, 1987 and was buried on 1-9-1987?  
Also I’m not sure about the Godfather in the record, Looks like and invocation 
for Divine Corcao de Jesus?  The Godmother on this record is my maternal 
grandmother and the mother of the baby is one of her sisters.

Thanks for any help.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help reading record.

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Thanks Cheri.  I got pretty much what you have too but don't always trust 
myself.   It is getting easier to read and the priest or whoever wrote these 
records is really easy to read.  Those side things..a different story.   Anyhow 
that you again for the help.
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On Jun 3, 2014, at 8:44 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 Edna,
 
 It's caught in the binding of the book, so I can't be sure.
 
 Casou com Angelica Francisca da Silveira, em 4? May 1914.  Could be 14 or 24, 
 so go with your records.  I think the rest says to find the marriage, go to 
 marriage record 41 of 1914.
 
 The blue note (2) says the marriage was dissolved by the death of his wife, 
 Angelica Francisca da Silveira on desaseis (16) January 1963.  So Angelica 
 died 16 Jan 1963.  Death book of 1963, record 14.  Then it says 24 Sept 1971. 
  Maybe that's when they wrote the blue note?
 
 3) Died in this freguesia, of Praia do Norte on the 12.  Record 109 of today. 
  20 April 1976  So I'd guess he died 12 April 1976.
 
 You're doing great with these records!
 Cheri
 
 
 On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Edna Epps dave-e...@comcast.net wrote:
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PRAIADONORTE-B-1871-1892/FAL-HT-PRAIADONORTE-B-1871-1892_item1/P151.html
   Record is for Sergio on bottom right of this page and continues on top left 
 of next page.  I need help reading the 3 notes in the left margin.  The one 
 in red on first page I can't read much of at all.  Sergio married Angelica 
 Filomena Francisca de Silveira on 5-14-1914 per my records.  This note looks 
 like it says something about May 1940? So maybe I have year wrong for his 
 marriage..he would have been young in 1914. I will check that.  Note #2 I 
 think is obit information on his wife maybe buried 1-16-1963 and died 
 1-14-1963..but what is the 24th of September 1971?
 Note #3 I think is Sergio's date of death. Does it say he died at Praia do 
 Norte on the 12th and it was record No 109 today on 2oth April 1976?  Thanks 
 in advance for any help
  
 Edna Lemos Epps
  
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[AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Need help reading record.

[Edna Epps]

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PRAIADONORTE-B-1871-1892/FAL-HT-PRAIADONORTE-B-1871-1892_item1/P151.html
  Record is for Sergio on bottom right of this page and continues on top left 
of next page.  I need help reading the 3 notes in the left margin.  The one in 
red on first page I can’t read much of at all.  Sergio married Angelica 
Filomena Francisca de Silveira on 5-14-1914 per my records.  This note looks 
like it says something about May 1940? So “maybe” I have year wrong for his 
marriage..he would have been young in 1914. I will check that.  Note #2 I think 
is obit information on his wife maybe buried 1-16-1963 and died 1-14-1963..but 
what is the 24th of September 1971? 
Note #3 I think is Sergio’s date of death. Does it say he died at Praia do 
Norte on the 12th and it was record No 109 today on 2oth April 1976?  Thanks in 
advance for any help

Edna Lemos Epps

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Could use some help on this record.

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Emil, she is my lst cousin 3x removed.  Her father Bento Furtado is my third 
Great Grandfather.

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On May 31, 2014, at 3:53 AM, Emil ehsilve...@comcast.net wrote:

 Hi Shirley and Edna,
 Catarina is my 2nd cousin 3 times removed and your translation is as I have 
 her listed in my file. Source is Minho Web Site.
 
 Emil
 
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 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Could use some help on this record.
 
 This is how I read that birth:
  
 Catharina
 PARENTS
 (Bento Furtado X Rosa Clara); natives Santa Barbara, place of Cedro
 PATERNAL
 Domingos Furtado X Josefa Maria
 MATERNAL
 Jose Silveira de Mattos X  Maria Ignacia
 DOBirth  31 Dec 1822
 BAPT 5 Jan 1823
 GODPARENTS
 Domingos Francisco?
  Catharina Marianna,
 both single
 both children of (Manoel Silveira de Medeiros X Anna Maria)
  
 Hope this helps. Shirley in CA
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 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Could use some help on this record.
 
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-B-1813-1823/FAL-HT-CEDROS-B-1813-1823_item1/P136.html
 The record is bottom left and top right on the page.  I think the child's 
 name is Catarina, Father is Bento Furtado and his wife Rosa Clara.  They are 
 natives of Cedros and parish of St. Barbara.  I think it says paternal 
 grandparents are Domingos Furtado and Josefa Maria (not sure of her name); 
 Maternal Jose Silveira de Mattos and Maria Ignacia.  Birth date looks like 31 
 day of Dec 1822 with baptism 6 January 1823. God parents  ? Francisco and 
 maybe Mariana Silveira  and is she  the daughter of Manel Silveira de 
 Medeiros and Anna Maria???   I just would like to see what others read and 
 see if I'm right?
  
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Could use some help on this record.

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Thank you Shirley.  I came pretty close!;)   It is getting a little easier to 
read this records, but I am not always sure that I'm seeing them right.   
Thanks again!
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Blot out my transgressions (Psalm 51:1).




On May 30, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.net wrote:

 This is how I read that birth:
  
 Catharina
 PARENTS
 (Bento Furtado X Rosa Clara); natives Santa Barbara, place of Cedro
 PATERNAL
 Domingos Furtado X Josefa Maria
 MATERNAL
 Jose Silveira de Mattos X  Maria Ignacia
 DOBirth  31 Dec 1822
 BAPT 5 Jan 1823
 GODPARENTS
 Domingos Francisco?
  Catharina Marianna,
 both single
 both children of (Manoel Silveira de Medeiros X Anna Maria)
  
 Hope this helps. Shirley in CA
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 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 10:13 PM
 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Could use some help on this record.
 
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-B-1813-1823/FAL-HT-CEDROS-B-1813-1823_item1/P136.html
 The record is bottom left and top right on the page.  I think the child's 
 name is Catarina, Father is Bento Furtado and his wife Rosa Clara.  They are 
 natives of Cedros and parish of St. Barbara.  I think it says paternal 
 grandparents are Domingos Furtado and Josefa Maria (not sure of her name); 
 Maternal Jose Silveira de Mattos and Maria Ignacia.  Birth date looks like 31 
 day of Dec 1822 with baptism 6 January 1823. God parents  ? Francisco and 
 maybe Mariana Silveira  and is she  the daughter of Manel Silveira de 
 Medeiros and Anna Maria???   I just would like to see what others read and 
 see if I'm right?
  
 Thanks
 Edna Lemos Epps
  
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Could use some help on this record.

[Edna Epps]

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-B-1813-1823/FAL-HT-CEDROS-B-1813-1823_item1/P136.html
The record is bottom left and top right on the page.  I think the child’s name 
is Catarina, Father is Bento Furtado and his wife Rosa Clara.  They are natives 
of Cedros and parish of St. Barbara.  I think it says paternal grandparents are 
Domingos Furtado and Josefa Maria (not sure of her name); Maternal Jose 
Silveira de Mattos and Maria Ignacia.  Birth date looks like 31 day of Dec 1822 
with baptism 6 January 1823. God parents  ? Francisco and maybe Mariana 
Silveira  and is she  the daughter of Manel Silveira de Medeiros and Anna 
Maria???   I just would like to see what others read and see if I’m right?

Thanks
Edna Lemos Epps

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Could use some help on this record.

[Edna Epps]

Thank you Margaret!  I'm still a little wobbly at reading these records and 
I'm not always sure I'm guessing right.;)  Thanks again.
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On May 29, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote:

 Edna, you have it right just a couple of things:
 Baptism is on the 5th (cinco)
 Godparents are both children of the the couple named above. I'm not certain 
 of the first name but it looks like  Domingos? Francisco e Catharina Mariana.
 
 Margaret Vicente
 
 
 
 On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 1:13 AM, Edna Epps dave-e...@comcast.net wrote:
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-B-1813-1823/FAL-HT-CEDROS-B-1813-1823_item1/P136.html
 The record is bottom left and top right on the page.  I think the child’s 
 name is Catarina, Father is Bento Furtado and his wife Rosa Clara.  They are 
 natives of Cedros and parish of St. Barbara.  I think it says paternal 
 grandparents are Domingos Furtado and Josefa Maria (not sure of her name); 
 Maternal Jose Silveira de Mattos and Maria Ignacia.  Birth date looks like 31 
 day of Dec 1822 with baptism 6 January 1823. God parents  ? Francisco and 
 maybe Mariana Silveira  and is she  the daughter of Manel Silveira de 
 Medeiros and Anna Maria???   I just would like to see what others read and 
 see if I’m right?
  
 Thanks
 Edna Lemos Epps
  
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge Baptism

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Nancy Jean...did you know that my maiden name was Lemos.  My ancestors are from 
Sao Jorge and were Machado there and then Machado de Lemos.  Most of my family 
was from Velas on Sao Jorge.  Rosemarie and I have a connection so I'm thinking 
that maybe you and I do as well?

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On Apr 26, 2014, at 3:58 PM, rcapodc rcap...@redshift.com wrote:

 Nancy Jean,
  
 We'll just keep on truckin and fleshing out the lines. We are bound to find a 
 connection at some point (hopefully!).
  
 Rosemarie
  
 From: nancy jean baptiste
 Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 2:33 PM
 To: azores group
 Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge Baptism
  
 Hi Rosemarie,
  
 I have many Silveira in my Sao Jorge linesboth mom's and dad's. My mom's 
 were always Silveira de Lemos  until coming to the staes when they became 
 just Lemos. My dads fathers line were Silveira Leonardes and just Silveira. I 
 still feel like our connection is in the de Lemos line but since mine were 
 from Rosais and yours Norte Grande who knowshowever, I recently found one 
 of my lines in Norte Grandenot de Lemos though, at least not apparently.
  
 Nancy Jean
  
 From: rcap...@redshift.com
 To: azores@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge Baptism
 Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 09:20:23 -0700
 
 Nancy Jean,
  
 I sympathize with you! I feel the same about the connections. I should have 
 tested my Mom too and now it's too late. The hard thing for me is that 
 Kenneth Silva is connected to me on my grandmother's side and also the 
 grandfather's side! double cousin but a generation off. He also is not really 
 a Silva but a Silveira! All of the brothers that came her chopped it down to 
 Silva but in the Old Country is really Silveira de Azevedo! Why did they do 
 this, who knows but it is making the trail so hard for us to follow! 
  
 Talk to you again soon, Prima!
 Prima, Rosemarie
  
 From: nancy jean baptiste
 Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 9:14 AM
 To: azores group
 Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge Baptism
  
 Hi Rosemarie,
  
 I know exactly what you mean with the frustration regarding good paper trails 
 and can't find the connection! Especially frustrating on the 2nd to 3rd 
 cousin ones! I see clues in the gedcoms but nothing definitivein truth I 
 think it's right in front of my eyes but I just don't know it due to our 
 ancestral habit of adopting whatever name they may fancy at the time. I never 
 knew my ggrandfather, Manuel Furtado Cardoso used any other name until 
 looking at the baptisms of his children on CCA and discovering that on one of 
 them he used his fathers name of Silva.which 2 of his brothers used in 
 the states although he never did. So many of my matches list surnames that 
 match mineespecially Cardoso, Silva, Gracia, Andrade, Castro and on and 
 on..I see the Veira name which is one of the names my brick wall 
 grandfather, Jose Enos usedalong with 3 other surnames he used!
  
 My biggest regret with this DNA stuff is that I tested my own MTDNA instead 
 of my mothers..at the time I tested there wasn't any Family Finder and I 
 never thought I'd need moms..alas, now it's too late and I can see it 
 would have been a wealth of knowledge..it also would have proven or 
 disproven what I've come to suspect, that my mom and dad may have been 
 distant cousins without knowing it! There are so many shades of grey that 
 would be cleared up by thatat least I think they would. If they only had 
 NO interisland connection I could eliminate better...but all of mom's people 
 were from Sao Jorge EXCEPT her paternal grandmother who was from Pico and we 
 think was a Gracia.so that gives her a potential Pico connectionall 
 of dads people were from Pico and Santa Maria EXCEPT his paternal grandfather 
 who was from Sao Jorge! Oh dear...
  
 Well, I'll never suffer from boredom since they'll always be another mystery 
 to search.
  
 Also, I see you are the contact for Kenneth Silva who shows up as 4th-remote 
 on my Uncle John Baptiste.but not on me.yet you show up on me as 5th 
 -remote but not to Uncle John.
  
 Best to you my cousin!
  
 Nancy Jean
  
 From: rcap...@redshift.com
 To: azores@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge Baptism
 Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 08:25:36 -0700
 
 Nancy Jean, I connect to Buzzie and Dennis Wilbert Silva too. So, this would 
 mean that we are 'in common with' each other and Fawn. If we could just 
 figure this out, so frustrating to have a large paper trail and still not 
 connect!
  
 Rosemarie
  
  
 From: nancy jean baptiste
 Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 7:58 AM
 To: azores group
 Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge Baptism
  
 Hi Fawn,
  

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Feliz Pascoa/Happy Easter thread

[Edna Epps]

Thank you Cheri and I also want to wish everyone a Happy Easter!  It was 
wonderful to get to meet many of you at the conference in SLC!

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 Happy Easter  Feliz Pascoa to the list!
 
 For those wishing to send Easter greetings, please hit reply and respond to 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy]

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Thanks to you and Margaret.  I thought I was crazy to be reading it as that!;)
I so appreciate this list and the helpfulness of everyone on here!

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On Mar 19, 2014, at 9:50 AM, E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote:

 I just checked Ancestry and if Penque is a surname, there are many of them 
 listed from the Azores.
 
 E
 
 
 On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Edna,
 
 If you take a good look at the letters you will be able to see which is which.
 
 Regarding Penque, I am not familiar with it as a Portuguese surname but it is 
 common in England and Italy as far as I know it is a surname. 
 
 Cheers,
 
 
 
 
 On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Dano dpai...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've come across an individual whose alcunha was Pingao - this looks a bit 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy]

[Edna Epps]

Could I get help reading this birth record for Manuel on right side of page  
105 (or 115). This is from Fajazinha, Island of Flores. Are parents Manuel Jose 
Corvelho and his wife Maria de Jesus?  Also not sure of paternal grandparents 
name. Looks like Joao Antonio ? and Catharina de Jesus?
Here is the link IF I DID   that right.
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-B-1825-1839/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-B-1825-1839_item1/P105.html
   

Thanks.  
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy]

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Thanks Cheri.  Someone thought the last name of Paternal Grandfather might be 
Joao Antonio Vargas...but it looks  like Penguei to me which I don't think is a 
name!lol

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On Mar 18, 2014, at 9:13 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 1) Are parents Manuel Jose Corvelho and his wife Maria de Jesus?  
 YES
 
 2) Also not sure of paternal grandparents name. Looks like Joao Antonio ? and 
 Catharina de Jesus? 
 YES. I can't get the surname after Joao Antonio.  Maybe when the lighting 
 changes later this afternoon or someone else will take a look.
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy]

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Thanks Margaret.  It could be Coelho I guess..but I want it to be Corvelho!;) 
The paternal last name does look like Penque.  Thanks for your input.

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On Mar 18, 2014, at 8:00 PM, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 The way I see it the name is Manuel Jose Coelho 
 Paternal Grandparents Joao Antonio Penque? (not familiar with this surname) 
 and of Catharina (Catarina) de Jesus
 
 
 
 On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 7:00 PM, Edna Epps dave-e...@comcast.net wrote:
 Thanks Cheri.  Someone thought the last name of Paternal Grandfather might be 
 Joao Antonio Vargas...but it looks  like Penguei to me which I don't think is 
 a name!lol
 
 ♥♥♥Edna
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 On Mar 18, 2014, at 9:13 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 1) Are parents Manuel Jose Corvelho and his wife Maria de Jesus?  
 YES
 
 2) Also not sure of paternal grandparents name. Looks like Joao Antonio ? 
 and Catharina de Jesus? 
 YES. I can't get the surname after Joao Antonio.  Maybe when the lighting 
 changes later this afternoon or someone else will take a look.
 
 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Crovelle

[Edna Epps]

Thanks Marilyn for taking your time to search.  I have been at their gravesite 
as my parents are also buried in the same area.  My problem is finding the 
specifics on their births so I can try to find them in the Azores records and 
go back from there.  I know the Catholic Church in Yreka has the old books of 
births/marriages etc from Hawkinsville (which is just abt 3 miles north of 
Yreka) and I think that the records of their marriage and deaths are in those 
books.  I got in there once and got my hands on them but at that time I was 
searching my paternal side (Lemos) so didn't check the Crovelle.   Might have 
to try that again next time I'm in Yreka.;)

Thank you  again for searching.   This is the best group with the most helpful 
people!

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On Mar 8, 2014, at 8:19 PM, Marilyn Thompson mari...@jmtmlt.com wrote:

 I looked on Find A Grave and found them some that appear to be them in the 
 Saint Joseph Catholic Cemetery.
 
 This is a link to their daughter's page that will give you the links to their 
 pages
 
 http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=grGRid=12963273
 
 
 I hope these are the right people.
 
 
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 I know there are a lot of experts on here so I thought I'd put out something 
 on one of my brick walls.  I am having trouble locating records one set of my 
 paternal Great Grandparents.  The lived and died in Siskiyou County, Ca  and 
 are buried in the Yreka Catholic Cemetery.  I think they married in that area 
 in 2-13-1879.  Unfortunately that is all I know.  Family history indicates my 
 Great Grandfather was born bet 1832-1837 in Flores, Acores but I don't know 
 town.  His wife Maria Jesintia Rosa was supposedly born 5-18-1864 in 
 Graciosa, Acores and I don't have town there either.  I figure the surname 
 probably was not Crovelle but not sure.  I have it spelled Crovell, Crovello  
 and Crovel.
 I can't find their marriage record either, but I'm pretty sure they married 
 in Siskiyou County, Ca in Hawkinsville, Hornbrook or Yreka area.
 Anyhow, I'm mainly just wondering if any of you have researched Flores or 
 Graciosa and may have seen anything on either or these names?  Or have 
 suggestions for where else to look?
 I've done genealogy for a while but quit about 7 years ago so I'm now having 
 to get myself retrained.
 Thanks.
 Edna
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Crovelle

[Edna Epps]

Thanks E I have seen the information and the different spellings.  I haven't 
contacted the Genealogy Society there but that's a good idea.  The Mary that 
was 3 1/2 on the census was my Grandmother.:)   

Thanks for your help.  
Edna 
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On Mar 8, 2014, at 7:49 PM, E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote:

 They are listed in the 1880 census living in Hawkinsville.  ...Manuel Corvell 
 is 42, Mary is 18 and the dau. Mary is 3/12 born in March 1880.  If you look 
 at the other Portuguese surnames on this census, the census taker mangled the 
 spellings of many of them.  In 1900 census it is spelled Crovelle and he came 
 to US 1879.  His wife and children are listed as born in US.  I did find 
 this:  US and Canada Passenger Immigration Lists Index 1500s to 1900s.  This 
 Manuel is listed as arriving in 1867.  Have you contacted the Genealogical 
 Society of Siskiyou County?
 Name: Manuel Crovel
 Arrival Year: 1867
 Arrival Place:California
 Source Publication Code:  3707.2
 Primary Immigrant:Crovel, Manuel
 Annotation:   Date and place of naturalization or date and place of 
 registration to vote. Occupation and local residence also provided.
 Source Bibliography:  KANKAS, EDNA. Great Register for General Election, 
 Sept. 30, 1879 [Siskiyou County, CA]. In Genealogical Society of Siskiyou 
 County. Vol. 2:4 (Summer 1974), pp. 6-9 (B-C).
 Page: 
 9
 
 
 
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 On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 9:50 AM, dave-edna dave-e...@comcast.net wrote:
 I know there are a lot of experts on here so I thought I'd put out something 
 on one of my brick walls.  I am having trouble locating records one set of my 
 paternal Great Grandparents.  The lived and died in Siskiyou County, Ca  and 
 are buried in the Yreka Catholic Cemetery.  I think they married in that area 
 in 2-13-1879.  Unfortunately that is all I know.  Family history indicates my 
 Great Grandfather was born bet 1832-1837 in Flores, Acores but I don't know 
 town.  His wife Maria Jesintia Rosa was supposedly born 5-18-1864 in 
 Graciosa, Acores and I don't have town there either.  I figure the surname 
 probably was not Crovelle but not sure.  I have it spelled Crovell, Crovello  
 and Crovel.
 I can't find their marriage record either, but I'm pretty sure they married 
 in Siskiyou County, Ca in Hawkinsville, Hornbrook or Yreka area.
 Anyhow, I'm mainly just wondering if any of you have researched Flores or 
 Graciosa and may have seen anything on either or these names?  Or have 
 suggestions for where else to look?
 I've done genealogy for a while but quit about 7 years ago so I'm now having 
 to get myself retrained.
 Thanks.
 Edna
 
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