Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Vila Franca Records

[Terri Santos]

I wanted to chime in here and say that I am currently working on the *Vila 
Franca Matriz marriage records for 1763-1799* (since there  already is an 
index of names starting 1800-1900)  
I currently have Apr 1763- July 1777 marriages done and will definitely 
share with the group when its all done. 
I think it would be fantastic if volunteers transcribe and share their 
index lists.  I still think its super important for people to confirm 
names, dates with the original documents on the CCA site in case something 
was interpreted wrong. The documents online may have alot more information 
that might be important that we are not including on the transcribed 
indexes like...places of birth, sidenotes of info...etc...
Terri 


On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 4:45:25 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Fernando,
>
> As you know, there is a marriage index for Sao Miguel Arcanjo from 
> 1800-1900. My suggestion would be to work backwards from that date (so 
> starting in 1799 and working backwards). The further back you go, the more 
> abbreviations are there and the more difficult it is to decipher. You may 
> find more people willing to help out with the late 1700s too, as those 
> earlier records are more difficult. I'd think you find more volunteers for 
> a later time period. Anyways, it's just a thought. Since you are organizing 
> it, you can do it however you chose :)
>
> Cheri
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 12:43 PM Fernando Pimentel  > wrote:
>
>> In a previous post I found out that Terri Santos had transcribed and made 
>> available an index of Sao Pedro in VF (which was helpful). I thought that 
>> instead of going through the records over and over I should create an index 
>> and hopefully the extra work up front would pay off after. Also once I’m 
>> done I will share with the group somehow and others can benefit. So I 
>> decided to do Matriz marriage from 1670-1705. Here’s why I’m writing this 
>> post, does anyone have any indexes they have done (of VF or any other areas 
>> besides the one on the Gen website)? Does anyone want to transcribe any 
>> records from VF? We can coordinate so we split the work and help each other 
>> out. 
>> Thanks Fernando 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ernesto do Canto Index

[Terri Santos]

Thanks for explaining Cheri. And yes... i have already noticed some of my
own mistakes...ie... writing ‘Antonio’ instead of ‘Antonia’ under the
brides name.
I want to continue with the next index years at some point and I’ll try to
do better!
But for now its off to the parade to celebrate the Raptors victory!!! 😁

On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 1:03 AM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Yes, Terri's index is better than Canto's because it includes everybody.
> And Canto may have had access to records from 100 years ago that are not
> available today. Both Terri and Canto were human and although they don't
> want to make mistakes, a few were probably made.
>
> As for copying, it depends. When I was copying the inventories (taking
> pictures with my cell phone) they told me that may NOT post them anywhere
> on the Internet. So I had to say OK to that and respect their wishes, as I
> wanted the information. So I guess it depends what you are copying and from
> what time period.
> Cheri
>
> On Sun, Jun 16, 2019, 8:51 PM Fernando Pimentel 
> wrote:
>
>> The reason I’m curious about the Canto index is because the list that
>> Terri compiled for S Pedro has names on the Canto index that were not on
>> the CCA books. Do the archives allow copying (photographs, photocopies)?
>> Thanks Fernando
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ernesto do Canto Index

[Terri Santos]

Its there Cheri. When you go to the GenWeb site... indexes... choose Sao Miguel 
island...scroll right to the bottom if that page and the Sao Pedro index i 
worked on is there. 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Maria de Jesus(wife of Francisco dePimentel)S.Sebastiao in Ponta Delgada OR from SM-Vila Franca?

[Terri Santos]

Thanks Margaret

On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 8:26 PM Margaret Vicente 
wrote:

> Terri,
>
>
>
> It’s good to do your own  search to verify but you will be searching in
> vain, if indeed this is the couple you are working on.  They only had 3
> children (Umbelina, Joao and Maria] plus one unborn child at the time of
> the father’s death.  Umbelina was already married by the time the parents
> were wed.
>
>
>
> Here’s the marriage record on the death bed of Joao Travassos and Josefa
> Mariana, right sight.  Look at the bottom where you will see the named
> children the couple had between them.
>
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856_item1/P115.html
>
>
>
> I have ancestors married at 12 and 13 years of age.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Terri Santos 
> *Sent: *May 25, 2019 8:11 PM
> *To: *azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Maria de Jesus(wife of Francisco
> dePimentel)S.Sebastiao in Ponta Delgada OR from SM-Vila Franca?
>
>
>
> Thanks everyone for your points Now time to search
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 8:02 PM Ângela Loura 
> wrote:
>
> Terri, also search for Maria's parents death records, to see if the number
> of children is mentioned.
>
>
>
> Cheri Mello  escreveu no dia domingo, 26/05/2019
> à(s) 00:48:
>
> The index was made by a human and humans can make mistakes. Look at all
> the kids and look for gaps between kids. Then search those gaps by hand.
>
>
>
> I'm suspicious that there was only ONE Maria!
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 4:45 PM Terri Santos 
> wrote:
>
> This is the only Maria born to Joao and Marianna that I found in the
> index.
>
> If she was baptized in Ponta Delgada, so then I'll look thereperhaps
> this couple lived there too?
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 7:37 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
> Terri,
>
>
>
> Did you find every single kid for Joao Travassos and Josepha Marianna? You
> know every family needs AT LEAST 3 Marias! LOL
>
>
>
>
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 4:10 PM Terri Santos 
> wrote:
>
> Here's the marriage record I found in SM-VFC for Francisco and Maria.
> Here it mentions Sao Sebastiao, Ponta Delgada for her again.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856_item1/P242.html
>
>
>
>
> this is the death record for Maria
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1895-1899/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1895-1899_item1/P64.html
>
>
>
>
> Seems to be the same person, but when I do the mathshe is 11 years old
> at marriage..
>
> 
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 2:56 PM Margaret Vicente <
> margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Terri,
>
>
>
> The record states the different dates and places of baptism for the Joao
> and Maria, who were both Expostos; Joao on Mar 9th 1834 baptized same day
> in Candelaria.  Maria baptized in Sao Sebastiao de Ponta Delgada … days of
> of the month of January of 1844.
>
>
>
> The document is a legitimization record for these two exposto children on
> their father’s deatch bed as declared in the hour of his death recognizing
> them and marrying/receiving their Mother ……… marriage … book 8 of this
> Parish pages 113….
>
>
>
> It also goes to say the mother also recognized them as her own children…
>
>
>
> Record signed and dated June 11 1845
>
>
>
> m
>
>
>
> *From: *Terri Santos 
> *Sent: *May 25, 2019 1:06 PM
> *To: *Azores Genealogy 
> *Subject: *[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Maria de Jesus(wife of Francisco de
> Pimentel)S.Sebastiao in Ponta Delgada OR from SM-Vila Franca?
>
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1844-1846/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1844-1846_item1/P70.html
>
> On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 1:01:46 PM UTC-4, Terri Santos wrote:
>
>  I`m trying to get some clarity for one Maria de Jesus in my files.  She
> married and died in Sao Miguel Vila Franca do Campo.
>
> Her death record on 10 July 1896 states she died at the age of 53 years
> old.  That makes her birth year c.1843, but that would make her 11 years
> old at marriage.
&

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Maria de Jesus(wife of Francisco de Pimentel)S.Sebastiao in Ponta Delgada OR from SM-Vila Franca?

[Terri Santos]

Thanks everyone for your points Now time to search

On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 8:02 PM Ângela Loura  wrote:

> Terri, also search for Maria's parents death records, to see if the number
> of children is mentioned.
>
> Cheri Mello  escreveu no dia domingo, 26/05/2019
> à(s) 00:48:
>
>> The index was made by a human and humans can make mistakes. Look at all
>> the kids and look for gaps between kids. Then search those gaps by hand.
>>
>> I'm suspicious that there was only ONE Maria!
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 4:45 PM Terri Santos 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is the only Maria born to Joao and Marianna that I found in the
>>> index.
>>> If she was baptized in Ponta Delgada, so then I'll look thereperhaps
>>> this couple lived there too?
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 7:37 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Terri,
>>>>
>>>> Did you find every single kid for Joao Travassos and Josepha Marianna?
>>>> You know every family needs AT LEAST 3 Marias! LOL
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheri Mello
>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 4:10 PM Terri Santos 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Here's the marriage record I found in SM-VFC for Francisco and Maria.
>>>>> Here it mentions Sao Sebastiao, Ponta Delgada for her again.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856_item1/P242.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> this is the death record for Maria
>>>>>
>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1895-1899/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1895-1899_item1/P64.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems to be the same person, but when I do the mathshe is 11 years
>>>>> old at marriage..
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 2:56 PM Margaret Vicente <
>>>>> margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Terri,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The record states the different dates and places of baptism for the
>>>>>> Joao and Maria, who were both Expostos; Joao on Mar 9th 1834
>>>>>> baptized same day in Candelaria.  Maria baptized in Sao Sebastiao de 
>>>>>> Ponta
>>>>>> Delgada … days of of the month of January of 1844.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The document is a legitimization record for these two exposto
>>>>>> children on their father’s deatch bed as declared in the hour of his 
>>>>>> death
>>>>>> recognizing them and marrying/receiving their Mother ……… marriage … book 
>>>>>> 8
>>>>>> of this Parish pages 113….
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It also goes to say the mother also recognized them as her own
>>>>>> children…
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Record signed and dated June 11 1845
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> m
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From: *Terri Santos 
>>>>>> *Sent: *May 25, 2019 1:06 PM
>>>>>> *To: *Azores Genealogy 
>>>>>> *Subject: *[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Maria de Jesus(wife of Francisco
>>>>>> de Pimentel)S.Sebastiao in Ponta Delgada OR from SM-Vila Franca?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1844-1846/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1844-1846_item1/P70.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 1:01:46 PM UTC-4, Terri Santos wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I`m trying to get some clarity for one Maria de Jesus in my files.
>

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Maria de Jesus(wife of Francisco de Pimentel)S.Sebastiao in Ponta Delgada OR from SM-Vila Franca?

[Terri Santos]

This is the only Maria born to Joao and Marianna that I found in the
index.
If she was baptized in Ponta Delgada, so then I'll look thereperhaps
this couple lived there too?

On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 7:37 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Terri,
>
> Did you find every single kid for Joao Travassos and Josepha Marianna? You
> know every family needs AT LEAST 3 Marias! LOL
>
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 4:10 PM Terri Santos 
> wrote:
>
>> Here's the marriage record I found in SM-VFC for Francisco and Maria.
>> Here it mentions Sao Sebastiao, Ponta Delgada for her again.
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856_item1/P242.html
>>
>>
>> this is the death record for Maria
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1895-1899/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1895-1899_item1/P64.html
>>
>>
>> Seems to be the same person, but when I do the mathshe is 11 years
>> old at marriage..
>> 
>>
>> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 2:56 PM Margaret Vicente <
>> margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Terri,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The record states the different dates and places of baptism for the Joao
>>> and Maria, who were both Expostos; Joao on Mar 9th 1834 baptized same
>>> day in Candelaria.  Maria baptized in Sao Sebastiao de Ponta Delgada … days
>>> of of the month of January of 1844.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The document is a legitimization record for these two exposto children
>>> on their father’s deatch bed as declared in the hour of his death
>>> recognizing them and marrying/receiving their Mother ……… marriage … book 8
>>> of this Parish pages 113….
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It also goes to say the mother also recognized them as her own children…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Record signed and dated June 11 1845
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> m
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *Terri Santos 
>>> *Sent: *May 25, 2019 1:06 PM
>>> *To: *Azores Genealogy 
>>> *Subject: *[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Maria de Jesus(wife of Francisco de
>>> Pimentel)S.Sebastiao in Ponta Delgada OR from SM-Vila Franca?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1844-1846/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1844-1846_item1/P70.html
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 1:01:46 PM UTC-4, Terri Santos wrote:
>>>
>>>  I`m trying to get some clarity for one Maria de Jesus in my files.
>>> She married and died in Sao Miguel Vila Franca do Campo.
>>>
>>> Her death record on 10 July 1896 states she died at the age of 53 years
>>> old.  That makes her birth year c.1843, but that would make her 11 years
>>> old at marriage.
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Maria de Jesus(wife of Francisco de Pimentel)S.Sebastiao in Ponta Delgada OR from SM-Vila Franca?

[Terri Santos]

Here's the marriage record I found in SM-VFC for Francisco and Maria.  Here
it mentions Sao Sebastiao, Ponta Delgada for her again.
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856_item1/P242.html


this is the death record for Maria
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1895-1899/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1895-1899_item1/P64.html


Seems to be the same person, but when I do the mathshe is 11 years old
at marriage..


On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 2:56 PM Margaret Vicente 
wrote:

> Terri,
>
>
>
> The record states the different dates and places of baptism for the Joao
> and Maria, who were both Expostos; Joao on Mar 9th 1834 baptized same day
> in Candelaria.  Maria baptized in Sao Sebastiao de Ponta Delgada … days of
> of the month of January of 1844.
>
>
>
> The document is a legitimization record for these two exposto children on
> their father’s deatch bed as declared in the hour of his death recognizing
> them and marrying/receiving their Mother ……… marriage … book 8 of this
> Parish pages 113….
>
>
>
> It also goes to say the mother also recognized them as her own children…
>
>
>
> Record signed and dated June 11 1845
>
>
>
> m
>
>
>
> *From: *Terri Santos 
> *Sent: *May 25, 2019 1:06 PM
> *To: *Azores Genealogy 
> *Subject: *[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Maria de Jesus(wife of Francisco de
> Pimentel)S.Sebastiao in Ponta Delgada OR from SM-Vila Franca?
>
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1844-1846/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1844-1846_item1/P70.html
>
> On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 1:01:46 PM UTC-4, Terri Santos wrote:
>
>  I`m trying to get some clarity for one Maria de Jesus in my files.  She
> married and died in Sao Miguel Vila Franca do Campo.
>
> Her death record on 10 July 1896 states she died at the age of 53 years
> old.  That makes her birth year c.1843, but that would make her 11 years
> old at marriage.
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Maria de Jesus(wife of Francisco de Pimentel) S.Sebastiao in Ponta Delgada OR from SM-Vila Franca?

[Terri Santos]

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1844-1846/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1844-1846_item1/P70.html

On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 1:01:46 PM UTC-4, Terri Santos wrote:
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>  I`m trying to get some clarity for one Maria de Jesus in my files.  She 
> married and died in Sao Miguel Vila Franca do Campo.  
> Her death record on 10 July 1896 states she died at the age of 53 years 
> old.  That makes her birth year c.1843, but that would make her 11 years 
> old at marriage.  
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Maria de Jesus(wife of Francisco de Pimentel) S.Sebastiao in Ponta Delgada OR from SM-Vila Franca?

[Terri Santos]

OOPS...Pressed post too quick and I wasn`t done writing
In the baptism record I found below i found that she was from Sao Sebastiao 
in Ponta Delgada along with a brother Joao. But both children were baptised 
in different places I think.
Can anyone share some clarity to what might be going on here.
Thanks
Terri Santos

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>  I`m trying to get some clarity for one Maria de Jesus in my files.  She 
> married and died in Sao Miguel Vila Franca do Campo.  
> Her death record on 10 July 1896 states she died at the age of 53 years 
> old.  That makes her birth year c.1843, but that would make her 11 years 
> old at marriage.  
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Maria de Jesus(wife of Francisco de Pimentel) S.Sebastiao in Ponta Delgada OR from SM-Vila Franca?

[Terri Santos]

 I`m trying to get some clarity for one Maria de Jesus in my files.  She 
married and died in Sao Miguel Vila Franca do Campo.  
Her death record on 10 July 1896 states she died at the age of 53 years 
old.  That makes her birth year c.1843, but that would make her 11 years 
old at marriage.  

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel Furtado (1750s-1813) & Marianna da Trindade (1750s-1823) of Vila Franca & Ponta Garca

[Terri Santos]

Not sure if you had this info already or not Cheri. 
I found this today and wondered if it could be the death records for your 
Manuel Furtado and Marianna da Trindade.
I think Marianna's is rightbut with the one for Manuel, it says his 
wife's name was Marianna da Piedade. Did you find her name as such anywhere 
on the childrens records?
well...take a look and see.

Obito for Marianna da Trindade
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-O-1811-1848/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-O-1811-1848_item1/P56.html

Obito for Manuel Furtado (husband of Marianna da Piedade)
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-O-1811-1848/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-O-1811-1848_item1/P23.html



On Tuesday, May 7, 2019 at 9:50:06 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
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> Hi Todd,
>
> Nope, not yet. They HAD to be SOMEONE'S godparents! Something!
> Cheri
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 6:42 PM brownat68 > 
> wrote:
>
>> Cheri,
>>
>> Did you ever find Manuel and Mariana's parents?
>>
>> Todd
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 6:54:11 AM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
>>> The Catholic Church required the dispensations. My greats had a 
>>> dispensation in New Bedford, Massachusetts. But, in America, it was just a 
>>> side note in the marriage book. I don't know that dispensation packets 
>>> exist. I took pictures of the ones in the Azores and will upload in a week 
>>> or 2. Cheri
>>>
>>> On Jul 3, 2018 3:48 PM, "Elaine Mello"  wrote:
>>>
 My grandparents were cousins, but got married here in the US, so there 
 wouldn't be anything back in the Azores for them (presumably), 

 Antonio Mello (b1889) was a great grandson through Ana de Espírito 
 Santo through Antonio De Mello Barboza (b 1819) and my grandmother Maria 
 Lima (b 1890) was a great granddaughter of Ana through Manoel De Mello 
 Barboza (b 1829) via his daughter Francisca Roza De Mello (b 1854).  
 Unless 
 that was tracked back home at some point even though they got married in 
 the States.

 Elaine 
  

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Side bar help! Pedro Miguel

[Terri Santos]

I grew up with a neighbour named Grinalda when I was a kid. I always did think 
that name was very different. She hated it and went by ‘Tina’ instead 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

[Terri Santos]

Here's Iria's death record if you didn't already have it.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1749-1780/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1749-1780_item1/P57.html

On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 6:02:16 PM UTC-5, Terri Santos wrote:
>
> Hi Fernando, I descend from this line as well. My My ancestor Manuel de 
> Sousa Pimentel is also a son of Bartolomeu Barbosa and Maria de Sousa. I 
> don’t have his birth year as well but I’m guessing it is circa 1700 or 
> earlier.I looked at your chart and basically have all the same info you 
> have. If there is anything you need from my end, I would love to help. 
> Terri Santos

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

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Hi Fernando, I descend from this line as well. My My ancestor Manuel de Sousa 
Pimentel is also a son of Bartolomeu Barbosa and Maria de Sousa. I don’t have 
his birth year as well but I’m guessing it is circa 1700 or earlier.I looked at 
your chart and basically have all the same info you have. If there is anything 
you need from my end, I would love to help. 
Terri Santos

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: AZORES-Genealogy] Merry Christmas / Feliz Natal / Boas Festas thread (Send greetings here)

[Terri Santos]

Merry Christmas everyone! I may not be on here often but just want to say I 
‘LOVE LOVE LOVE ‘ this group and thanks to everyone who has helped me along my 
family search all these years.
Terri Santos

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado Duque ancestors from Matriz Vila Franca, or Ponta Garca on S.Miguel Isl-Help to read names

[Terri Santos]

Thanks so much to everyone. With your help i’ve had more clarity and some leads 
to go on. 
Terri 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado Duque ancestors from Matriz Vila Franca, or Ponta Garca on S.Miguel Isl-Help to read names

[Terri Santos]

I am working on finding ancestors for my cousins family tree as my Xmas 
gift to them.  I think I've got almost as far back as i can with these 
names. I've gotten better at reading these documents, but am having a hard 
time reading this one to determine if I have the right names and place to 
continue searching...left page...

Joao? da Costa son of Manuel? da Costa Duque and Maria da Costa ( of Ponta 
Garca, Vila Franca do Campo)

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1705-1743/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1705-1743_item1/P87.html

Looking for confirmation...
Please and thank you,
Terri Santos

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Agua d'alto records prior to 1834 on CulturaAcores-where if anywhere can I find them

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I checked my data base and couldnt find any matches to those names. Sorry

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> On Oct 11, 2018, at 12:34 PM, JR  wrote:
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> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-AGUADEALTO-C-1834-1855/SMG-VF-AGUADEALTO-C-1834-1855_item1/P9.html
> 
> page 8
> 
> There is no Andrade or Furtado in the immediate ancestry. Are you sure about 
> the name, Manuel Jacinto Furtado Andrade? The parents of this Luis Jacinto 
> (do Amaral) are Jacinto Jose do Amaral and Josefa Mariana. Said Luis Antonio 
> married Maria do Rozario [or Sousa], Jan 11- 1836, filha de Joao de Sousa and 
> Francisca de Jesus. The mother is a match as she is a Sousa and the godfather 
> of Manuel is her brother Antonio de Sousa who same parents as this Maria do 
> Rosario.
> 
> JR
> 
>> On Thursday, October 11, 2018 at 10:39:52 AM UTC-4, JR wrote:
>> I found couple of possible matches. Are your about those names? What is date 
>> of marriage for Manuel Jacinto Furtado Andrade and his wife?
>> 
>> JR
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 7:40:58 PM UTC-4, Nat Escaler wrote:
>>> Jacinto or Jacinto Furtado Andrade - early 1800's?
>>> Luiz Jacinto (Jacintho?) may go by Luis Jacinto Travâo married to Maria (de 
>>> Jesus or de Coraçao) Souza, they had a son Manuel Jacinto Furtado Andrade 
>>> born 19 Nov 1843 (pg.26 in Agua de Alto book) (my great-grandfather)
>>> I am trying to work back, but am having problems finding  Luis Jacinto.  
>>> Indications are that they were from Sao Lazaro, Agua de Alto. 
>>> 
 On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 12:53 PM JR  wrote:
 Whom are you looking for and the time period?
 
 JR
 
> On Tuesday, October 9, 2018 at 10:31:01 PM UTC-4, Nat Escaler wrote:
> Thank you JR.  I had already looked in Sao Pedro, but I may have missed 
> it. I will look again as well as in Agua de Pau. I appreciate your help.
> 
>  
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 
>  
> 
> From: JR
> Sent: October 9, 2018 7:08 PM
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Agua d'alto records prior to 1834 on 
> CulturaAcores-where if anywhere can I find them
> 
>  
> 
> You will find all the early records of Agua de Alto in Sao Pedro de Vila 
> Franca. Also, if you don't find them there, try Agua de Pau and the 
> Matriz, Sao Miguel, of Vila Franca.
> 
>  
> 
> JR
> 
> On Tuesday, October 9, 2018 at 1:39:25 PM UTC-4, Nat Escaler wrote:
> 
>  
> 
> I searched this topic and am not able to find anything, I was wondering 
> if someone can help me as I am stuck on my family tree, it appears as 
> though my paternal-maternal side is from Agua d'alto and records on 
> Cultura Acores only start 1834, and I need to go prior.
> 
> Does anyone know if it's because records were destroyed or I should look 
> elsewhere.  Thank you in advance for any help.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Agua d'alto records prior to 1834 on CulturaAcores-where if anywhere can I find them

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Hi Nat, I also have many ancestors from Agua ‘Alto, Vila Franca and Agua de 
Pau. If you post names, I can also check my lines to see if there is any info I 
could help you out with. 
Terri Santos

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Sao Miguel Marriage Indexes

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Sorry... and yes for the Island of Sao Miguel

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> Yes its for the church Sao Pedro in Vila Franca do Campo.
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>> On Sep 28, 2018, at 7:25 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
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>> Thanks Terri, for all amount of time you put into this project 
>> 
>> To be crystal clear, it's for the church call Sao Pedro, in Vila Franca do 
>> Campo, on the island of Sao Miguel. So many churches are named Sao Pedro. 
>> Double check to be sure it's your village.
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>> 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 3:18 PM Terri Santos  
>>> wrote:
>>> My pleasure. I hope it helps make some of the research easier for someone 
>>> as I have been helped so many times by others here on this site as well. I 
>>> suggest anyone using my index to look at the actual records on the CCA site 
>>> still as well as I am human... and hopefully havent made a mistake with the 
>>> names. ( i double and triple checked.. but you never know😉)
>>> Terri
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Sao Miguel Marriage Indexes

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Yes its for the church Sao Pedro in Vila Franca do Campo.

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> Thanks Terri, for all amount of time you put into this project 
> 
> To be crystal clear, it's for the church call Sao Pedro, in Vila Franca do 
> Campo, on the island of Sao Miguel. So many churches are named Sao Pedro. 
> Double check to be sure it's your village.
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 3:18 PM Terri Santos  wrote:
>> My pleasure. I hope it helps make some of the research easier for someone as 
>> I have been helped so many times by others here on this site as well. I 
>> suggest anyone using my index to look at the actual records on the CCA site 
>> still as well as I am human... and hopefully havent made a mistake with the 
>> names. ( i double and triple checked.. but you never know😉)
>> Terri
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[AZORES-Genealogy] New Sao Miguel Marriage Indexes

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My pleasure. I hope it helps make some of the research easier for someone as I 
have been helped so many times by others here on this site as well. I suggest 
anyone using my index to look at the actual records on the CCA site still as 
well as I am human... and hopefully havent made a mistake with the names. ( i 
double and triple checked.. but you never know😉)
Terri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport records for Sao Miguel Island before 1875

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Thanks everyone. I went through a few years where I thought 'maybe ' it could 
be.. but came up with nothing. 

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> Ponta Delgada passaportes before 1875 are lost :(
> 
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> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
> 
>> On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 7:15 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci  
>> wrote:
>> Terri, I've seen a few in my searches but not many. I don't want to 
>> discourage you but it may be a fruitless search. 
>> 
>> 
>> Rosemarie
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>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>> 
>>> On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 5:28 PM, Terri Santos  
>>> wrote:
>>> Through one of my Sao Miguel Island records, I found that an ancestor was 
>>> 'ausente' (away) in Brazil at the time of his grandsons baptism in 1866. 
>>> Seems there are no passport records earlier than 1875 for Ponta Delgada. I 
>>> see that passport records go back farther  for Horta and Angra do Heroismo. 
>>>  Has anyone found Sao Miguel ancestors on those passport records? I looked 
>>> a little through them, but not sure if its worth the search.
>>> Thanks
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Passport records for Sao Miguel Island before 1875

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Through one of my Sao Miguel Island records, I found that an ancestor was 
'ausente' (away) in Brazil at the time of his grandsons baptism in 
1866. Seems there are no passport records earlier than 1875 for Ponta 
Delgada. I see that passport records go back farther  for Horta and Angra 
do Heroismo.  Has anyone found Sao Miguel ancestors on those passport 
records? I looked a little through them, but not sure if its worth the 
search.
Thanks
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Abridged summary of azores@googlegroups.com - 5 updates in 1 topic

[Terri Santos]

Happy Easter to everyone!! Hope there is malasadas (Portuguese doughnuts) or  
massa ( sweet bread) at your tables.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Raleza, Antonio Soares

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I don't have anyone with the surname Raleza in my family but just wanted to say 
that my father has a friend who's family last name is Raleza. ( not his 
nickname)

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: The Power of the Azores Genealogy Google Group and DNA

[Terri Santos]

Hi Pat,
I believe my cousin has been in touch with you already as she is starting 
her research on her dads side.  I have been trying to help her as well.
I saw this post and perhaps you have already found much more by now.  
You said in this message that you didn't have much info on the Rosa's .   I 
found from Jose Francisco's first marriage to Maria Felicia do Coracao de 
Jesus
Rosa born 20 July 1860 in Feteira, Horta, Faial Isl. and she was baptized 
on 29 July 1860

from Jose's second marriage to Virginia Emilia was
Rosalinda born 11 July 1874 in Feteira, Horta, Faial Isl and she was 
baptized on 23 July 1874

Sorry if this is old news
Terri Santos


On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 7:39:21 PM UTC-5, DBM wrote:
>
> Hi Rico,
>
> I am Deb McCabe, the Deb that my prima Pat mentioned in the post you 
> referenced.  I wanted to reach out to see if we can figure out if we are 
> related.
>
> I have two possible connections in my tree.  Either could be the Rosa 
> Silvia Martins (aka Rosa Silveira Martins and Rosa Margarida Martins) you 
> mentioned as the mother of your  Rosa (born 1898 and married to Rufino 
> Silveira de Faria). 
>
> The* first Rosa Silvia Martins possibility* is:
> Rosa
> Born in Feteira, Faial in 1860.
> Daughter of Jose Francisco Martins and his first wife,  Maria Felicia do 
> Coracao de Jesus.  Jose is my paternal great grandfather.
>
> The *second Rosa Silvia Martins possibility* is:
> Rosalinda
> Born in Feteira, Faial in 1874.
> Daughter of Jose Francisco Martins and his second wife, Virginia Emilia.  
> Jose Francisco and Virginia Emilia are my  paternal grandparents.
>
> Unfortunately,  I don't have any info on either of these women.  
> Nevertheless, I wanted to reach out in case, as you were looking through 
> the records, you saw any of these names. 
>
>  Also, if you know any other names of relatives in the Azores or who came 
> to the U.S., perhaps we can figure out if there is a connection by starting 
> with them.  Also, Pat and I both have had our DNA tested.  If you take the 
> FTDNA test, we will know for sure.
>
> Please do keep me posted.  Best of luck!
>
> Deb
>
>
> *When I searched for ancestors, I found friends!*
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 5, 2017, 2:18:34 PM PST, Rico Garcia <
> ricog...@gmail.com > wrote: 
>
>
> I just stumbled upon this post, as I am new to the group. I have Martins 
> from Feteira, Faial in my family as well, and I am not finding much more on 
> that part of the family. Rosa Silvina Martins (b 1898 - ?, married to 
> Rufino Silveira de Faria), and her mother Rosa Silvia Martins (AKA Rosa 
> Silveira Martins, and Rosa Margarida Martins). I am curious if these names 
> are familiar to you. Thank you for your time.
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 29, 2017 at 8:25:36 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Repost for Pat Girard, quilterpat705 at sbcglobal.net
>
> Hi Cheri,
>
> I had to share this with you! Four years ago I saw a post on the Azores 
> Google Group asking if anyone had Martins from Feteira Faial in their 
> tree.  I was so excited because I did and it had been a dead end. I 
> contacted Deb McCabe and we compared notes. We were convinced that we 
> probably were 3rd cousins. Fast forward to FTDNA. Yes, we are 3rd cousins! 
> We are meeting in person for the first time in 2 weeks. I'm so excited 
> because she is the first living relative I have found on my father's side. 
> Previously the only paternal relatives I have ever known were my father, my 
> grandfather (who died when I was 5) and my aunt who was childless.
>
> Thank you Cheri, I couldn't have done this without you. You are forever in 
> my debt. Can't wait till the conference!
>
> Pat Girard
>
> PS, If you wish to post this to the group please do.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Location in Brazil

[Terri Santos]

Hi Rick, 
I found this on the internet for the possible location of the church you are 
looking for;
The church Igreja Matriz Bom Jesus at Brazil, São Paulo, Ribeirao Grande, 
village, Praca Bom Jesus, 110

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ancestor Trip to Azores...Azores Airlines Fare Sale

[Terri Santos]

My parents are coming back today from their 2 week vacation on Sao Miguel. I 
know the flight there was fine with Azores Airlines and the stewardesses were 
very helpful with them. Seems there was a half hour delay going and we'll see 
how coming back will be. Really bad weather right now in Canada which may 
understandably be cause for another delay. 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rosa de Sao Jose of Vila Franca do Campo, Sao Miguel

[Terri Santos]

This is a breakthrough for sure! Thanks for finding this one because it's the 
ONLY record in Matriz Vila Franca that mentioned Anna was from somewhere else!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 28, 2017, at 10:13 AM, mnk  wrote:
> 
> Hi Terri,
> I happened to be looking through baptisms in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo, 
> yesterday and saw a baptism of Luzia, daughter of Antonio de Sousa and Anna 
> Moniz.  I remember the names because I checked if they were in my tree.  I 
> just looked again and In fact Anna Moniz is from Fenais da Vera Cruz and 
> Antonio from Matriz, Vila Franca. Luzia was born 6 Dec 1759.
> MNK 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rosa de Sao Jose of Vila Franca do Campo, Sao Miguel

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Thanks John . No where in any documents I had did it mention Fenais but it 
makes sense since I was looking through years and years for them but couldn't 
find a Ana Monis!! Like I said.. I will comb through what I have again and 
check this out later. You are the best!!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 27, 2017, at 10:29 AM, JR  wrote:
> 
> It just so happens I was looking in Fenais just yesterday. I think these are 
> the right people, as Antonio de Sousa is native of Vila Franca, while Anna 
> Moniz is native of Fenais da Vera Cruz. 
> 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1730-1772/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1730-1772_item1/P92.html
> 
> page 89 verso, Fenais da Vera Cruz, Sept 9- 1753, Antonio de Sousa, filho de 
> Pedro de Souza e Luzia Correa, baptizado e disobrigado Matriz de Sao Miguel 
> de Villa Franca, com Anna Muniz, filha de Joze Rabello and Jozepha Muniz, 
> baptizado e disobrigada nesta parochial dos Santos Reis Magos lugar dos 
> Fenais...
> 
> And it so happens this Moniz line links to the Braga line. Will send it to 
> you privately.
> 
> JR
> 
>> On Wednesday, December 27, 2017 at 6:23:25 AM UTC-5, Terri Santos wrote:
>> Rosa's parents names were always found as Antonio de Sousa and Ana Monis. 
>> Cheri,  I couldn't find ANY marriage in Vila Franca for them.Thanks John, I 
>> will check this information tonight after work and look for common clues 
>> with the info you now gave me.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 27, 2017, at 2:36 AM, JR  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Of course I forgot to post the marriage date of Antonio Sousa cc Anna 
>>> Maria, July 23 1759, VF Matriz.
>>> 
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1743-1763/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1743-1763_item1/P140.html
>>> 
>>> JR
>>> 
>>>> On Wednesday, December 27, 2017 at 2:24:07 AM UTC-5, JR wrote:
>>>> I think I have a couple of leads for you. I have, Antonio de Sousa Gois or 
>>>> Goes cc Ana Maria do Sacramento, Vila Franca Matriz; The paternal 
>>>> grandmother of this Ana is Ana Moniz cc Bento Cardoso da Silva, in Ponta 
>>>> Garca, March 18- 1695. So this may be a match.
>>>> 
>>>> I also have Manuel de Sousa cc Escolastica Rosa, married in VF Matriz, Aug 
>>>> 4- 1782. Said Manuel is stated to be native of Fenais da Vera Cruz and his 
>>>> parents are Antonio de Sousa and Ana Moniz. 
>>>> 
>>>> Since you have already looked in Vila Franca for children, maybe start 
>>>> looking in Fenais da Ajuda (aka Fenais da Vera Cruz). Or even for the 
>>>> marriage. 
>>>> 
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>> 
>>>> JR
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Tuesday, December 26, 2017 at 9:56:23 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>>> Did you find the marriage of Antonio de Sousa and Anna Moniz?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheri Mello
>>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>>>>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 6:39 PM, Terri Santos  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> I have just spent the whole weekend looking for the birth record of Rosa 
>>>>>> de Sao Jose. Her marriage and last two childrens records mention her 
>>>>>> parents names and that they were also from Vila Franca.  STill I could 
>>>>>> not even find OTHER  children born to her parents Antonio de Sousa and 
>>>>>> Anna Monis.  I have attached my family group sheet should anyone on the 
>>>>>> list match to Rosa or her parents.
>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rosa de Sao Jose of Vila Franca do Campo, Sao Miguel

[Terri Santos]

Rosa's parents names were always found as Antonio de Sousa and Ana Monis. 
Cheri,  I couldn't find ANY marriage in Vila Franca for them.Thanks John, I 
will check this information tonight after work and look for common clues with 
the info you now gave me.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 27, 2017, at 2:36 AM, JR  wrote:
> 
> Of course I forgot to post the marriage date of Antonio Sousa cc Anna Maria, 
> July 23 1759, VF Matriz.
> 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1743-1763/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1743-1763_item1/P140.html
> 
> JR
> 
>> On Wednesday, December 27, 2017 at 2:24:07 AM UTC-5, JR wrote:
>> I think I have a couple of leads for you. I have, Antonio de Sousa Gois or 
>> Goes cc Ana Maria do Sacramento, Vila Franca Matriz; The paternal 
>> grandmother of this Ana is Ana Moniz cc Bento Cardoso da Silva, in Ponta 
>> Garca, March 18- 1695. So this may be a match.
>> 
>> I also have Manuel de Sousa cc Escolastica Rosa, married in VF Matriz, Aug 
>> 4- 1782. Said Manuel is stated to be native of Fenais da Vera Cruz and his 
>> parents are Antonio de Sousa and Ana Moniz. 
>> 
>> Since you have already looked in Vila Franca for children, maybe start 
>> looking in Fenais da Ajuda (aka Fenais da Vera Cruz). Or even for the 
>> marriage. 
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
>> 
>> JR
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tuesday, December 26, 2017 at 9:56:23 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>> Did you find the marriage of Antonio de Sousa and Anna Moniz?
>>> 
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 6:39 PM, Terri Santos  wrote:
>>>> I have just spent the whole weekend looking for the birth record of Rosa 
>>>> de Sao Jose. Her marriage and last two childrens records mention her 
>>>> parents names and that they were also from Vila Franca.  STill I could not 
>>>> even find OTHER  children born to her parents Antonio de Sousa and Anna 
>>>> Monis.  I have attached my family group sheet should anyone on the list 
>>>> match to Rosa or her parents.
>>>> Thank you
>>>> 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Rosa de Sao Jose of Vila Franca do Campo, Sao Miguel

[Terri Santos]

I have just spent the whole weekend looking for the birth record of Rosa de 
Sao Jose. Her marriage and last two childrens records mention her parents 
names and that they were also from Vila Franca.  STill I could not even 
find OTHER  children born to her parents Antonio de Sousa and Anna Monis.  
I have attached my family group sheet should anyone on the list match to 
Rosa or her parents.
Thank you

Terri Santos

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Seca, Ribeira Grande-Need help with husbands name on record for Barbara Soares

[Terri Santos]

1562 in Matriz, Ribeira Grande.
>
>
>
> 61.* Isabel Gaga * was born in Matriz, Ribeira Grande. She died on 1
> May 1616 in São Pedro, Ribeira Grande.
>
>
>
> 62.* João Fernandes * was born in Matriz, Ribeira Grande. He died on
> 25 Sep 1610 in São Pedro, Ribeira Grande. He married Gracia Soares on 3 Nov
> 1573 in Matriz, Ribeira Grande.
>
>
>
> 63.* Gracia Soares * was born in Matriz, Ribeira Grande. She died
> after 1610.
>
>
>
> *Seventh Generation*
>
>
>
>   124.* João Fernandes * was born in Matriz, Ribeira Grande. He married
> Leonor Roiz.
>
>
>
>   125.* Leonor Roiz * was born in Matriz, Ribeira Grande.
>
>
>
>   126.* Estêvão Anes * was born in Matriz, Ribeira Grande. He died before
> 1573. He married Bárbara Gonçalves.
>
>
>
>   127.* Bárbara Gonçalves * was born in Matriz, Ribeira Grande. She died
> before 1573.
>
>
>
> Em sábado, 4 de novembro de 2017 01:03:42 UTC-2, Mara escreveu:
>>
>> The name is Lazaro.
>>
>> Here's the obit for him.
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-
>> RIBEIRASECA-O-1694-1741/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1694-1741_item1/P166.html
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:05 PM, Terri Santos 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Just found a family line from Ribeira Seca, Ribeira Grande. I have their
>>> childrens records, this death record and STILL cannot figure out Barbara
>>> Soares' husbands name.  It looks like it starts with the letter 'L'  in all
>>> the records and last name is Rodrigues or Rois.  Can someone please help
>>> with this writing?  Maybe I've been away from doing my geneology work too
>>> long. Thanks in advance
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-
>>> RIBEIRASECA-O-1694-1741/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1694-1741_item1/P161.html
>>>
>>> Terri Santos
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Seca, Ribeira Grande-Need help with husbands name on record for Barbara Soares

[Terri Santos]

Thanks Margaret. Much appreciated

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Seca, Ribeira Grande-Need help with husbands name on record for Barbara Soares

[Terri Santos]

Just found a family line from Ribeira Seca, Ribeira Grande. I have their 
childrens records, this death record and STILL cannot figure out Barbara 
Soares' husbands name.  It looks like it starts with the letter 'L'  in all 
the records and last name is Rodrigues or Rois.  Can someone please help 
with this writing?  Maybe I've been away from doing my geneology work too 
long. Thanks in advance

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1694-1741/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1694-1741_item1/P161.html

Terri Santos


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