Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores
Edgar, First, I want to thank you for all the time you have taken to help me. I have now connected with my cousin Eleanor and we have compared many records. What you sent seemed to be a perfect fit until we realized that this Mary P Joseph died at age 89 in the Azores. All the names and facts were too good to be true. Our great great grandmother Mary P (Madruga) is listed in the census as bookkeeper for the family grocery store on friend street. There were in fact 3 Mary P's. The first was the grandmother to Manuel Madruga - the one married to Phillipa (Cardoza) Madruga. The 2nd was an infant that died at birth. The 3rd was the oldest girl of Manuel and Phillipa, grandmother to ELEANOR - my long lost cousing. So if Mary P (1) worked in the grocery store she could not have died in the Azores - unless she went back. So far I have been unable to find any record of her in Gloucester. Also, we have now confirmed that Manuel Madruga, born June 15, 1853 was naturalized in Gloucester in August, 1894. He arrived from Peak (Pico) about October 15, 1870. Any advice is appreciated. Ginny (Madruga) Swinson - Original Message - From: eric edgar To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores Here's one that fits. Manuel Pereira Madruga a.. Nascido a 25 de Setembro de 1819 - Lajes do Pico b.. Falecido Pais a.. Manuel Pereira Madruga 1788-1874 b.. Maria São José +1882 Casamentos e filhos a.. Casado a 16 de Outubro de 1851 com Maria Josefa Piedade 1820-1909, tiveram a.. Manuel ? 1852 b.. António ? 1854 c.. Francisca ? 1859 d.. Filomena Maria Pereira 1861-1921 e.. Maria Francisca +1947 b.. On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 3:21 PM, eric edgar noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: Pam, Not her. The Neps site shows she died at 11 years old Filipa ? Nascido(a) a 16 de Dezembro de 1861 - Lajes do Pico Falecido(a) a 22 de Julho de 1873 - Lajes do Pico Com a idade de 11 anos Pais José Cardoso +1896 Teresa Jesus 1826-1887 Eric Edgar On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: Here is a Felipa in 1862 http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1860-1867/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1860-1867_item1/P63.html On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think if that baptism is correct, since she would of been 52 when she had Manuel in 1899 On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: oops you did give children sorry about that On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: I think if you give us their children it might be more helpful. On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: According to the 1900 census if this is the right person Felipa would have been been born abt 1847. Below is a baptism in Picos http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1845-1860/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1845-1860_item1/P10.html On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 11:21 AM, eric edgar noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: Ginny, Here is the birth record for their son, Arthur. Iy shows Manuel birthplace as Pico. From my family research in Pico, I know that Pereira Madruga is seen often in the Lajes das Pico Concelho, Cardoso is also concentraed in that area. Since you have a birthdate, you should take look throug the parish records at the NNEPS site for the area. http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/genealogias.html Eric Edgar On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Ginny Swinson riverv...@gis.net wrote: I have been following your group for several months and am amazed at how so many of you have been able to locate where you ancestors came from. I have been researching intermittently for 50 years and have had little success. My great-grandparents, Manuel Perry Madruga (b. about February 15, 1852, Azores) married Phillipa Perry Cardoza, (b. about August 25, 1865, Azores) in St Ann's church, Gloucester, MA, April 18, 1883. They had six children: Mary, March 9, 1889; Willie P.,September 26, 1890; John Perry (my ggrandfather) December 6, 1892; Gertrude, August 10, 1896; Manuel Perry, October 8, 1899. All were born in Gloucester. I have been unable to get baptismal records because the church says that their records are with the Boston Archdiocese. I spent eight hours at their archives and there are no records there. They arrived before Ellis Island. I can find no naturalization papers for them in Gloucester. All birth and death records indicate only Azores. I am getting old
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mary Roderick Joseph Silva | Azores - Island Unknown | Research Ideas
John, Doesn't the city of Buffalo have a birth certificate for her? They may also have an archives department which you can probably check on line. Ginny Swinson - Original Message - From: John Machado To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 5:21 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mary Roderick Joseph Silva | Azores - Island Unknown | Research Ideas I have come to seek wisdom from the group. Recently, I have hit a wall with one of my branches. The ancestor nearest me is Mary Agnes Silva (married William Perry). She was born in Buffalo, NY Jan 24, 1868. Her parents were Joseph Silva and Mary Roderick. I have no records of birth, only the death cert to confirm. In 1869, I find the family in Oakland, CA, with a new son named Joseph. Interestingly, Joseph’s name on the internment records is Joseph Dyce. Also, his death cert is Joseph Dyce with mothers maiden name as Mary Roderick. So that fits. Fast forward to the 1880 Oakland, CA census she is now married to Joseph Nichols and living next door to a family of Roderick’s. I have to assume it’s her brother. Her mother was also living with the brother I believe. All are buried at the same cemetery. All I believe are from the Azores. I would like to find from where in the Azores. I have searched Ancestry at nausea, Google, news archives, library of congress and so on. Anyone have ideas or connections? I can’t find any info on Joseph Silva the biological father. I assume only the birth record of Mary Agnes Silva would include that info, but she was born in 1868 Buffalo, NY, hospital unknown. Mary Roderick (Silva, Dyce, Nichols) died in Oakland in 1901. The death was only recorded on ledger and gives simple info. Thanks for reading… John Machado -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores
Eleanor, I am so happy and excited to hear from you. I have lots of questions. Edgar advised me of the infant Arthur Perry Madruga, born December 11,1894 and died October 12, 1896. I am not aware of an infant girl or her death - that would make eight children. I will check the city archives and search for the older sister? You said your mother was named after her older sister who died as an infant. Manuel Madruga's mother was Mary P. Joseph (Madruga). Do you think your mother was Possibly named after her. I need to check for her death record as well. She is listed in the census as a bookkeeper - I believe she ran the grocery store. To further complicate my search, Edgar has sent me a number of genweb pages where the dates seem to be those of our ggrandfather and gggrandfather. However, on closer examination the Manuel Madruga born Pico 1819 married Maria Josefa Piedade - still sounds correct - died May 10, 1909 Pico. Our Maria P. Joseph - Mrs. Manuel Madruga - our gggrandmother lived in Gloucester, is reported in the census as the bookkeeper. It was John Perry Madruga, my grandfather who died in the 1918 epedemic. I'm not sure of the time of Williams death but he was born September 1890. I believe he died of epilepsy. Do you have any pictures of any of the Madruga's? Your grandmothers brother Manuel married Jennie __, they had a son Robert who married Gloria Swinson. They lived in Manchester, MA. I am married to Gloria's youngest brother Harold Swinson. I have many family connections and stories to share with you. If you would, please share your personal email with me so that we may continue to communicate. Ginny (Madruga) Swinson - Original Message - From: Eleanor Levine To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores I am the granddaughter of Mary P. I have a great deal of information. The first Mary died as an infant. There were 7 not six children. My grandmother was named after her older sister who died as an infant. Was your grandfather William he died in 1918. I believe the other brother, john, was left with medical problems as a result of the 1918 epidemic. I am the daughter of Florence Phillipa. I lived with my grandparents and spent a lot of time with my grandmothers relatives. The great grandparents and other relatives are buried a the calavery cemetery in Gloucester, ma. Sent from my iPad On Feb 2, 2013, at 8:39 PM, Ginny Swinson riverv...@gis.net wrote: I have been following your group for several months and am amazed at how so many of you have been able to locate where you ancestors came from. I have been researching intermittently for 50 years and have had little success. My great-grandparents, Manuel Perry Madruga (b. about February 15, 1852, Azores) married Phillipa Perry Cardoza, (b. about August 25, 1865, Azores) in St Ann's church, Gloucester, MA, April 18, 1883. They had six children: Mary, March 9, 1889; Willie P.,September 26, 1890; John Perry (my ggrandfather) December 6, 1892; Gertrude, August 10, 1896; Manuel Perry, October 8, 1899. All were born in Gloucester. I have been unable to get baptismal records because the church says that their records are with the Boston Archdiocese. I spent eight hours at their archives and there are no records there. They arrived before Ellis Island. I can find no naturalization papers for them in Gloucester. All birth and death records indicate only Azores. I am getting old and would like to visit the village where they came from and to finally connect with my Portugese heritage. My grandfather died in the 1918 epidemic and so any connection to the past wast lost. PLEASE - anyone - HELP. I need advice and direction. Virginia (Ginny) Madruga Swinson -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores
All of our family members have always referred to the family as haviung six children, even the six children themselves. I'll have to go and check for a death record. Maybe he died as an infant. The Madruga pages on the GenWeb site are wonderful. I have looked at them before (many years ago) and didn't put it together because I wasn't sure of dates of place of birth at that time. They seem to be the right ones going all the way back. Pam has given me a lead on Phillipa (Felipa) Cardozo. I am really excited and can't begin to express my thanks to you both. When I finish my father's family, I'll try to work on my mother's - Silva's from Fial and Figurado's. Thanks again. Ginny (Madruga) Swinson - Original Message - From: eric edgar To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 1:25 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores Ginny, Arthur died on 12 Oct 1896 in Gloucester. His birth information with Manuel P. Madruga and Phillipa Perry is consistent with the names of the parents of Willie P , Gertrude, and Manuel . You didn't mention Cecilia. According to the 1910 census Phillipa was the a widowed head of household in 1910. Arthur's record is important because it's the only one that states Pico as the origin. Willie P. Madruga Massachusetts, Births, 1841-1915 birth 26 Sep 1890 Gloucester, Essex, Massachusetts parent Manuel P. Madruga, Phillipe Perry John Perry Madruga Massachusetts, Births, 1841-1915 birth 06 Dec 1892 Gloucester, Massachusetts, United States parent Manuel Perry, Phillippe Arthur Perry Madruga Massachusetts, Births, 1841-1915 birth 11 Dec 1894 Gloucester, Massachusetts parent Manuel P. Madruga, Phillipe Perry Cecelia Perry Madruga Massachusetts, Births, 1841-1915 birth 12 Jun 1901 Gloucester, Massachusetts parent Manuel P. Madruga, Felippa Cardoza Madruga Massachusetts, Births, 1841-1915 birth 09 Mar 1889 Gloucester, Esssex, Massachusetts parent Manuel Madruga, Fellipa Cardoza Gertrude Perry Madruga Massachusetts, Births, 1841-1915 birth 10 Aug 1896 Gloucester, Essex, Massachusetts parent Manuel P. Madruga, Phillipa Perry Manuel Madruga Massachusetts, Births, 1841-1915 birth 08 Oct 1899 Gloucester, Massachusetts parent Manuel P. Madruga, Phillippa P. Perry name: Arthur Perry titles terms: event: Death event date: 12 Oct 1896 event place: Gloucester, Massachusetts residence: Gloucester, Massachusetts street address: gender: Male age: 1 marital status: occupation: birth date: birthplace: Gloucester, Massachusetts estimated birth year: 1895 burial date: burial place: Gloucester, Massachusetts cemetery: father: Manuel father's titles terms: father's birthplace: Western Islands mother: Penelope Perry mother's titles terms: mother's birthplace: Western Islands additional relatives: spouse: volume/page/certificate number: v 463 p 442 film number: 961518 frame number: digital folder number: 4225013 image number: 411 On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 2:10 PM, riverview riverv...@gis.net wrote: Dear Eric, Thanks for taking time to look for their records. They did not have a son Arthur. Manuel and Phillipa had six children, all born in Gloucester. I have corresponded many times in the past with Jeff Madruga in California, Arthur may be one of his family. Thanks again. I will check out the link you sent, just in case.. Ginny (Madruga) Swinson - Original Message - From: eric edgar To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores Ginny, Here is the birth record for their son, Arthur. Iy shows Manuel birthplace as Pico. From my family research in Pico, I know that Pereira Madruga is seen often in the Lajes das Pico Concelho, Cardoso is also concentraed in that area. Since you have a birthdate, you should take look throug the parish records at the NNEPS site for the area. http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/genealogias.html Eric Edgar On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Ginny Swinson riverv...@gis.net wrote: I have been following your group for several months and am amazed at how so many of you have been able to locate where you ancestors came from. I have been researching intermittently for 50 years and have had little success. My great-grandparents, Manuel Perry Madruga (b. about February 15, 1852, Azores) married Phillipa Perry Cardoza, (b. about August 25, 1865, Azores) in St Ann's church, Gloucester, MA, April 18, 1883. They had six children: Mary, March 9, 1889
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores
Pam, I have sent several emails to her at her comcast address. No response. Thanks - I'll keep trying. Ginny (Madruga) Swinson - Original Message - From: Pam Santos To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores There is an older post of someone searching your couple also. You might want to contact this person Eleanor, eminniel at comcast.net. Below is the link maybe she has found something further. https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/azores/nKYvdoFU_yk On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Before Ellis Island (1892 - 1950s) it was called Castle Garden. http://www.castlegarden.org/ Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores
Sam, Thanks so much for taking time to email. As far as I know my family members all stayed in Massachusetts. Most are still here in Gloucester. Unfortunately my Portugese grandfather died when my dad was only 5, so not much to go on. Ginny (Madruga) Swinson - Original Message - From: Sam Koester To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 12:44 PM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores Virginia; Not sure if this is him or not but; worth following up. Ancestry.com shows a Manuel Pereira Madgruda naturalization card. Book 61, page 358. I'm not knowledgeable in this area so, perhaps someone else can tell you how to follow up on this information. Since this is a Rhode Island record, it probably isn't your guy but; thought I would pass it on, in case. Sam in Maz From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ginny Swinson Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 6:39 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores I have been following your group for several months and am amazed at how so many of you have been able to locate where you ancestors came from. I have been researching intermittently for 50 years and have had little success. My great-grandparents, Manuel Perry Madruga (b. about February 15, 1852, Azores) married Phillipa Perry Cardoza, (b. about August 25, 1865, Azores) in St Ann's church, Gloucester, MA, April 18, 1883. They had six children: Mary, March 9, 1889; Willie P.,September 26, 1890; John Perry (my ggrandfather) December 6, 1892; Gertrude, August 10, 1896; Manuel Perry, October 8, 1899. All were born in Gloucester. I have been unable to get baptismal records because the church says that their records are with the Boston Archdiocese. I spent eight hours at their archives and there are no records there. They arrived before Ellis Island. I can find no naturalization papers for them in Gloucester. All birth and death records indicate only Azores. I am getting old and would like to visit the village where they came from and to finally connect with my Portugese heritage. My grandfather died in the 1918 epidemic and so any connection to the past wast lost. PLEASE - anyone - HELP. I need advice and direction. Virginia (Ginny) Madruga Swinson -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores
Dear Eric, Thanks for taking time to look for their records. They did not have a son Arthur. Manuel and Phillipa had six children, all born in Gloucester. I have corresponded many times in the past with Jeff Madruga in California, Arthur may be one of his family. Thanks again. I will check out the link you sent, just in case.. Ginny (Madruga) Swinson - Original Message - From: eric edgar To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores Ginny, Here is the birth record for their son, Arthur. Iy shows Manuel birthplace as Pico. From my family research in Pico, I know that Pereira Madruga is seen often in the Lajes das Pico Concelho, Cardoso is also concentraed in that area. Since you have a birthdate, you should take look throug the parish records at the NNEPS site for the area. http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/genealogias.html Eric Edgar On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Ginny Swinson riverv...@gis.net wrote: I have been following your group for several months and am amazed at how so many of you have been able to locate where you ancestors came from. I have been researching intermittently for 50 years and have had little success. My great-grandparents, Manuel Perry Madruga (b. about February 15, 1852, Azores) married Phillipa Perry Cardoza, (b. about August 25, 1865, Azores) in St Ann's church, Gloucester, MA, April 18, 1883. They had six children: Mary, March 9, 1889; Willie P.,September 26, 1890; John Perry (my ggrandfather) December 6, 1892; Gertrude, August 10, 1896; Manuel Perry, October 8, 1899. All were born in Gloucester. I have been unable to get baptismal records because the church says that their records are with the Boston Archdiocese. I spent eight hours at their archives and there are no records there. They arrived before Ellis Island. I can find no naturalization papers for them in Gloucester. All birth and death records indicate only Azores. I am getting old and would like to visit the village where they came from and to finally connect with my Portugese heritage. My grandfather died in the 1918 epidemic and so any connection to the past wast lost. PLEASE - anyone - HELP. I need advice and direction. Virginia (Ginny) Madruga Swinson -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores
Pam, Working backward from the death record which indicates age at death, in Gloucester, Ma, she, Phillipa should be born about August 24, 1865. I will check the link you have suggested. Thanks for taking the time. Ginny (Madruga) Swinson - Original Message - From: Pam Santos To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 3:49 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores According to the 1900 census if this is the right person Felipa would have been been born abt 1847. Below is a baptism in Picos http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1845-1860/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1845-1860_item1/P10.html On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 11:21 AM, eric edgar noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: Ginny, Here is the birth record for their son, Arthur. Iy shows Manuel birthplace as Pico. From my family research in Pico, I know that Pereira Madruga is seen often in the Lajes das Pico Concelho, Cardoso is also concentraed in that area. Since you have a birthdate, you should take look throug the parish records at the NNEPS site for the area. http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/genealogias.html Eric Edgar On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Ginny Swinson riverv...@gis.net wrote: I have been following your group for several months and am amazed at how so many of you have been able to locate where you ancestors came from. I have been researching intermittently for 50 years and have had little success. My great-grandparents, Manuel Perry Madruga (b. about February 15, 1852, Azores) married Phillipa Perry Cardoza, (b. about August 25, 1865, Azores) in St Ann's church, Gloucester, MA, April 18, 1883. They had six children: Mary, March 9, 1889; Willie P.,September 26, 1890; John Perry (my ggrandfather) December 6, 1892; Gertrude, August 10, 1896; Manuel Perry, October 8, 1899. All were born in Gloucester. I have been unable to get baptismal records because the church says that their records are with the Boston Archdiocese. I spent eight hours at their archives and there are no records there. They arrived before Ellis Island. I can find no naturalization papers for them in Gloucester. All birth and death records indicate only Azores. I am getting old and would like to visit the village where they came from and to finally connect with my Portugese heritage. My grandfather died in the 1918 epidemic and so any connection to the past wast lost. PLEASE - anyone - HELP. I need advice and direction. Virginia (Ginny) Madruga Swinson -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores
Pam, In my original post I have given the names and dates of birth of their six children, all born in Gloucester, MA. All records have been taken from the city of Gloucester archives. The parents dates of birth are approximate based on their age at death in Gloucester. Place of birth - Azores. Thanks so much for taking time. Ginny (Madruga) Swinson - Original Message - From: Pam Santos To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores I think if you give us their children it might be more helpful. On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: According to the 1900 census if this is the right person Felipa would have been been born abt 1847. Below is a baptism in Picos http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1845-1860/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1845-1860_item1/P10.html On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 11:21 AM, eric edgar noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: Ginny, Here is the birth record for their son, Arthur. Iy shows Manuel birthplace as Pico. From my family research in Pico, I know that Pereira Madruga is seen often in the Lajes das Pico Concelho, Cardoso is also concentraed in that area. Since you have a birthdate, you should take look throug the parish records at the NNEPS site for the area. http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/genealogias.html Eric Edgar On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Ginny Swinson riverv...@gis.net wrote: I have been following your group for several months and am amazed at how so many of you have been able to locate where you ancestors came from. I have been researching intermittently for 50 years and have had little success. My great-grandparents, Manuel Perry Madruga (b. about February 15, 1852, Azores) married Phillipa Perry Cardoza, (b. about August 25, 1865, Azores) in St Ann's church, Gloucester, MA, April 18, 1883. They had six children: Mary, March 9, 1889; Willie P.,September 26, 1890; John Perry (my ggrandfather) December 6, 1892; Gertrude, August 10, 1896; Manuel Perry, October 8, 1899. All were born in Gloucester. I have been unable to get baptismal records because the church says that their records are with the Boston Archdiocese. I spent eight hours at their archives and there are no records there. They arrived before Ellis Island. I can find no naturalization papers for them in Gloucester. All birth and death records indicate only Azores. I am getting old and would like to visit the village where they came from and to finally connect with my Portugese heritage. My grandfather died in the 1918 epidemic and so any connection to the past wast lost. PLEASE - anyone - HELP. I need advice and direction. Virginia (Ginny) Madruga Swinson -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores
Pam, I looked at that page for a long time. I didn't see Felipa. Perhaps I'm not looking at the right page. I don't speak Portugese and am having a difficult time deciphering the information on the page. Please advise. Ginny (Madruga) Swinson - Original Message - From: Pam Santos To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores Here is a Felipa in 1862 http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1860-1867/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1860-1867_item1/P63.html On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think if that baptism is correct, since she would of been 52 when she had Manuel in 1899 On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: oops you did give children sorry about that On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: I think if you give us their children it might be more helpful. On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: According to the 1900 census if this is the right person Felipa would have been been born abt 1847. Below is a baptism in Picos http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1845-1860/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1845-1860_item1/P10.html On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 11:21 AM, eric edgar noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: Ginny, Here is the birth record for their son, Arthur. Iy shows Manuel birthplace as Pico. From my family research in Pico, I know that Pereira Madruga is seen often in the Lajes das Pico Concelho, Cardoso is also concentraed in that area. Since you have a birthdate, you should take look throug the parish records at the NNEPS site for the area. http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/genealogias.html Eric Edgar On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Ginny Swinson riverv...@gis.net wrote: I have been following your group for several months and am amazed at how so many of you have been able to locate where you ancestors came from. I have been researching intermittently for 50 years and have had little success. My great-grandparents, Manuel Perry Madruga (b. about February 15, 1852, Azores) married Phillipa Perry Cardoza, (b. about August 25, 1865, Azores) in St Ann's church, Gloucester, MA, April 18, 1883. They had six children: Mary, March 9, 1889; Willie P.,September 26, 1890; John Perry (my ggrandfather) December 6, 1892; Gertrude, August 10, 1896; Manuel Perry, October 8, 1899. All were born in Gloucester. I have been unable to get baptismal records because the church says that their records are with the Boston Archdiocese. I spent eight hours at their archives and there are no records there. They arrived before Ellis Island. I can find no naturalization papers for them in Gloucester. All birth and death records indicate only Azores. I am getting old and would like to visit the village where they came from and to finally connect with my Portugese heritage. My grandfather died in the 1918 epidemic and so any connection to the past wast lost. PLEASE - anyone - HELP. I need advice and direction. Virginia (Ginny) Madruga Swinson -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
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Pam, I am rechecking my records for Phillipa. I may have made a mistake. There are conflicting records. Her marriage certificate says she was 21 when married in 1883. That means born in 1862. Her son Manuel was born 1899, which means she was 37. Her obit (1921) says she was 55 - born 1866? The obit is not official - it is from the local newspaper. I will go to City Hall this week to get the official one. - Original Message - From: Pam Santos To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores I don't think if that baptism is correct, since she would of been 52 when she had Manuel in 1899 On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: oops you did give children sorry about that On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: I think if you give us their children it might be more helpful. On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: According to the 1900 census if this is the right person Felipa would have been been born abt 1847. Below is a baptism in Picos http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1845-1860/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1845-1860_item1/P10.html On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 11:21 AM, eric edgar noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: Ginny, Here is the birth record for their son, Arthur. Iy shows Manuel birthplace as Pico. From my family research in Pico, I know that Pereira Madruga is seen often in the Lajes das Pico Concelho, Cardoso is also concentraed in that area. Since you have a birthdate, you should take look throug the parish records at the NNEPS site for the area. http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/genealogias.html Eric Edgar On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Ginny Swinson riverv...@gis.net wrote: I have been following your group for several months and am amazed at how so many of you have been able to locate where you ancestors came from. I have been researching intermittently for 50 years and have had little success. My great-grandparents, Manuel Perry Madruga (b. about February 15, 1852, Azores) married Phillipa Perry Cardoza, (b. about August 25, 1865, Azores) in St Ann's church, Gloucester, MA, April 18, 1883. They had six children: Mary, March 9, 1889; Willie P.,September 26, 1890; John Perry (my ggrandfather) December 6, 1892; Gertrude, August 10, 1896; Manuel Perry, October 8, 1899. All were born in Gloucester. I have been unable to get baptismal records because the church says that their records are with the Boston Archdiocese. I spent eight hours at their archives and there are no records there. They arrived before Ellis Island. I can find no naturalization papers for them in Gloucester. All birth and death records indicate only Azores. I am getting old and would like to visit the village where they came from and to finally connect with my Portugese heritage. My grandfather died in the 1918 epidemic and so any connection to the past wast lost. PLEASE - anyone - HELP. I need advice and direction. Virginia (Ginny) Madruga Swinson -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --