Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores

2013-02-17 Thread riverview
Edgar,
First, I want to thank you for all the time you have taken to help me. I have 
now connected with my cousin Eleanor and we have compared many records. What 
you sent seemed to be a perfect fit until we realized that this Mary P Joseph 
died at age 89 in the Azores. All the names and facts were too good to be true. 
Our great great grandmother Mary P (Madruga) is listed in the census as 
bookkeeper for the family grocery store on friend street. There were in fact 3 
Mary P's. The first was the grandmother to Manuel Madruga - the one married to 
Phillipa (Cardoza) Madruga. The 2nd was an infant that died at birth. The 3rd 
was the oldest girl of Manuel and Phillipa, grandmother to ELEANOR - my long 
lost cousing. So if Mary P (1) worked in the grocery store she could not have 
died in the Azores - unless she went back. So far I have been unable to find 
any record of her in Gloucester.
Also, we have now confirmed that Manuel Madruga, born June 15, 1853 was 
naturalized in Gloucester in August, 1894. He arrived from Peak (Pico) about 
October 15, 1870.
Any advice is appreciated.
Ginny (Madruga) Swinson
  - Original Message - 
  From: eric edgar 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 6:29 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores


  Here's one that fits.




  Manuel Pereira Madruga
  
a.. Nascido a 25 de Setembro de 1819 - Lajes do Pico
b.. Falecido
  Pais
a.. Manuel Pereira Madruga 1788-1874 
b.. Maria São José +1882
  Casamentos e filhos
a.. Casado a 16 de Outubro de 1851 com Maria Josefa Piedade 1820-1909, 
tiveram 
  a.. Manuel ? 1852
  b.. António ? 1854 
  c.. Francisca ? 1859
  d.. Filomena Maria Pereira 1861-1921 
  e.. Maria Francisca +1947
b.. 



  On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 3:21 PM, eric edgar noblankt...@gmail.com wrote:

Pam, 


Not her. The Neps site shows she died at 11 years old


Filipa ?



Nascido(a) a 16 de Dezembro de 1861 - Lajes do Pico
Falecido(a) a 22 de Julho de 1873 - Lajes do Pico
Com a idade de 11 anos
Pais


José Cardoso +1896
Teresa Jesus 1826-1887




Eric Edgar


On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:

  Here is a Felipa in 1862


  
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1860-1867/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1860-1867_item1/P63.html



  On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:

I don't think if that baptism is correct, since she would of been 52 
when she had Manuel in 1899



On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com 
wrote:

  oops you did give children sorry about that



  On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com 
wrote:

I think if you give us their children it might be more helpful.



On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com 
wrote:

  According to the 1900 census if this is the right person Felipa 
would have been been born abt 1847. Below is a baptism in Picos


  
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1845-1860/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1845-1860_item1/P10.html







  On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 11:21 AM, eric edgar 
noblankt...@gmail.com wrote:

Ginny, 


Here is the birth record for their son, Arthur. Iy shows Manuel 
birthplace as Pico. From my family research in Pico, I know that Pereira 
Madruga is seen often in the Lajes das Pico Concelho, Cardoso is also 
concentraed in that area. 


Since you have a birthdate, you should take look throug the 
parish records at the NNEPS site for the area. 
http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/genealogias.html




Eric Edgar





On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Ginny Swinson 
riverv...@gis.net wrote:

  I have been following your group for several months and am 
amazed at how so many of you have been able to locate where you ancestors came 
from. I have been researching intermittently for 50 years and have had little 
success. My great-grandparents, Manuel Perry Madruga (b. about February 15, 
1852, Azores) married Phillipa Perry Cardoza, (b. about August 25, 1865, 
Azores) in St Ann's church, Gloucester, MA, April 18, 1883. They had six 
children: Mary, March 9, 1889; Willie P.,September 26, 1890; John Perry (my 
ggrandfather) December 6, 1892; Gertrude, August 10, 1896; Manuel Perry, 
October 8, 1899. All were born in Gloucester. I have been unable to get 
baptismal records because the church says that their records are with the 
Boston Archdiocese. I spent eight hours at their archives and there are no 
records there. They arrived before Ellis Island. I can find no naturalization 
papers for them  in Gloucester. All birth and death records indicate only 
Azores. I am getting old 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mary Roderick Joseph Silva | Azores - Island Unknown | Research Ideas

2013-02-11 Thread riverview
John,
Doesn't the city of Buffalo have a birth certificate for her? They may also 
have an archives department which you can probably check on line.
Ginny Swinson
  - Original Message - 
  From: John Machado 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 5:21 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mary Roderick  Joseph Silva | Azores - Island 
Unknown | Research Ideas


  I have come to seek wisdom from the group.  Recently, I have hit a wall with 
one of my branches.  The ancestor nearest me is Mary Agnes Silva (married 
William Perry).  She was born in Buffalo, NY Jan 24, 1868.  Her parents were 
Joseph Silva and Mary Roderick.  I have no records of birth, only the death 
cert to confirm.  In 1869, I find the family in Oakland, CA, with a new son 
named Joseph.  Interestingly, Joseph’s name on the internment records is Joseph 
Dyce.  Also, his death cert is Joseph Dyce with mothers maiden name as Mary 
Roderick.  So that fits.  Fast forward to the 1880 Oakland, CA census she is 
now married to Joseph Nichols and living next door to a family of Roderick’s.  
I have to assume it’s her brother.  Her mother was also living with the brother 
I believe.  All are buried at the same cemetery.  All I believe are from the 
Azores.  I would like to find from where in the Azores.  I have searched 
Ancestry at nausea, Google, news archives, library of congress and so on.  
Anyone have ideas or connections?  I can’t find any info on Joseph Silva the 
biological father.  I assume only the birth record of Mary Agnes Silva would 
include that info, but she was born in 1868 Buffalo, NY, hospital unknown.  
Mary Roderick (Silva, Dyce, Nichols) died in Oakland in 1901.  The death was 
only recorded on ledger and gives simple info.  Thanks for reading…

  John Machado

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores

2013-02-09 Thread riverview
Eleanor,
I am so happy and excited to hear from you. I have lots of questions. 
Edgar advised me of the infant Arthur Perry Madruga, born December 11,1894 and 
died October 12, 1896.
I am not aware of an infant girl or her death - that would make eight children. 
I will check the city archives and search for the older sister? You said your 
mother was named after her older sister who died as an infant. Manuel Madruga's 
mother was Mary P. Joseph (Madruga). Do you think your mother was Possibly 
named after her. I need to check for her death record as well. She is listed in 
the census as a bookkeeper - I believe she ran the grocery store.
To further complicate my search, Edgar has sent me a number of genweb pages 
where the dates seem to be those of our ggrandfather and gggrandfather. 
However, on closer examination the Manuel Madruga born Pico 1819 married Maria 
Josefa Piedade - still sounds correct - died May 10, 1909 Pico. Our Maria P. 
Joseph - Mrs. Manuel Madruga - our gggrandmother lived in Gloucester, is 
reported in the census as the bookkeeper.
It was John Perry Madruga, my grandfather who died in the 1918 epedemic. I'm 
not sure of the time of Williams death but he was born September 1890. I 
believe he died of epilepsy.

Do you have any pictures of any of the Madruga's?

Your grandmothers brother Manuel married Jennie __, they had a son Robert who 
married Gloria Swinson. They lived in Manchester, MA. I am married to Gloria's 
youngest brother Harold Swinson.

I have many family connections and stories to share with you.
If you would, please share your personal email with me so that we may continue 
to communicate.

Ginny (Madruga) Swinson
- Original Message - 
  From: Eleanor Levine 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 11:41 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores


  I am the granddaughter of Mary P. I have a great deal of information.  The 
first Mary died as an infant.  There were 7 not six children.  My grandmother 
was named after her older sister who died as an infant.  Was your grandfather 
William he died in 1918.  I believe the other brother, john, was left with 
medical problems as a result of the 1918 epidemic.  I am the daughter of 
Florence Phillipa. I lived with my grandparents and spent a lot of time with my 
grandmothers relatives.  The great grandparents and other relatives are buried 
a the calavery cemetery in Gloucester, ma.

  Sent from my iPad

  On Feb 2, 2013, at 8:39 PM, Ginny Swinson riverv...@gis.net wrote:


I have been following your group for several months and am amazed at how so 
many of you have been able to locate where you ancestors came from. I have been 
researching intermittently for 50 years and have had little success. My 
great-grandparents, Manuel Perry Madruga (b. about February 15, 1852, Azores) 
married Phillipa Perry Cardoza, (b. about August 25, 1865, Azores) in St Ann's 
church, Gloucester, MA, April 18, 1883. They had six children: Mary, March 9, 
1889; Willie P.,September 26, 1890; John Perry (my ggrandfather) December 6, 
1892; Gertrude, August 10, 1896; Manuel Perry, October 8, 1899. All were born 
in Gloucester. I have been unable to get baptismal records because the church 
says that their records are with the Boston Archdiocese. I spent eight hours at 
their archives and there are no records there. They arrived before Ellis 
Island. I can find no naturalization papers for them  in Gloucester. All birth 
and death records indicate only Azores. I am getting old and would like to 
visit the village where they came from and to finally connect with my Portugese 
heritage. My grandfather died in the 1918 epidemic and so any connection to the 
past wast lost. PLEASE - anyone - HELP. I need advice and direction.

Virginia (Ginny) Madruga Swinson

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores

2013-02-04 Thread riverview
All of our family members have always referred to the family as haviung six 
children, even the six children themselves. I'll have to go and check for a 
death record. Maybe he died as an infant.
The Madruga pages on the GenWeb site are wonderful. I have looked at them 
before (many years ago) and didn't put it together because I wasn't sure of 
dates of place of birth at that time. They seem to be the right ones going all 
the way back. Pam has given me a lead on Phillipa (Felipa) Cardozo. I am really 
excited and can't begin to express my thanks to you both. When I finish my 
father's family, I'll try to work on my mother's - Silva's from Fial and 
Figurado's.
Thanks again.
Ginny (Madruga) Swinson
  - Original Message - 
  From: eric edgar 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 1:25 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores


  Ginny, 

  Arthur died on 12 Oct 1896 in Gloucester. His birth information with Manuel 
P. Madruga and Phillipa Perry is consistent  with the names of the parents of  
Willie P , Gertrude, and Manuel . You didn't mention Cecilia. 


  According to the 1910 census Phillipa was the a widowed head of household in 
1910.  Arthur's record is important because it's the only one that states Pico 
as the origin.




  Willie P. Madruga
  Massachusetts, Births, 1841-1915
  birth 26 Sep 1890 Gloucester, Essex, Massachusetts
  parent Manuel P. Madruga, Phillipe Perry


  John Perry Madruga
  Massachusetts, Births, 1841-1915
  birth 06 Dec 1892 Gloucester, Massachusetts, United States
  parent Manuel Perry, Phillippe


  Arthur Perry Madruga
  Massachusetts, Births, 1841-1915
  birth 11 Dec 1894 Gloucester, Massachusetts
  parent Manuel P. Madruga, Phillipe Perry


  Cecelia Perry Madruga
  Massachusetts, Births, 1841-1915
  birth 12 Jun 1901 Gloucester, Massachusetts
  parent Manuel P. Madruga, Felippa Cardoza


  Madruga
  Massachusetts, Births, 1841-1915
  birth 09 Mar 1889 Gloucester, Esssex, Massachusetts
  parent Manuel Madruga, Fellipa Cardoza


  Gertrude Perry Madruga
  Massachusetts, Births, 1841-1915
  birth 10 Aug 1896 Gloucester, Essex, Massachusetts
  parent Manuel P. Madruga, Phillipa Perry


  Manuel Madruga
  Massachusetts, Births, 1841-1915
  birth 08 Oct 1899 Gloucester, Massachusetts
  parent Manuel P. Madruga, Phillippa P. Perry


name: Arthur Perry 
titles  terms:  
event: Death 
event date: 12 Oct 1896 
event place: Gloucester, Massachusetts 
residence: Gloucester, Massachusetts 
street address:  
gender: Male 
age: 1 
marital status:  
occupation:  
birth date:  
birthplace: Gloucester, Massachusetts 
estimated birth year: 1895 
burial date:  
burial place: Gloucester, Massachusetts 
cemetery:  
father: Manuel 
father's titles  terms:  
father's birthplace: Western Islands 
mother: Penelope Perry 
mother's titles  terms:  
mother's birthplace: Western Islands 
additional relatives:  
spouse:  
volume/page/certificate number: v 463 p 442 
film number: 961518 
frame number:  
digital folder number: 4225013 
image number: 411 


  On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 2:10 PM, riverview riverv...@gis.net wrote:

Dear Eric,
Thanks for taking time to look for their records. They did not have a son 
Arthur. Manuel and Phillipa had six children, all born in Gloucester. I have 
corresponded many times in the past with Jeff Madruga in California, Arthur may 
be one of his family. Thanks again. I will check out the link you sent, just in 
case..
Ginny (Madruga) Swinson
  - Original Message - 
  From: eric edgar 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 2:21 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores


  Ginny,  


  Here is the birth record for their son, Arthur. Iy shows Manuel 
birthplace as Pico. From my family research in Pico, I know that Pereira 
Madruga is seen often in the Lajes das Pico Concelho, Cardoso is also 
concentraed in that area. 


  Since you have a birthdate, you should take look throug the parish 
records at the NNEPS site for the area. 
  http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/genealogias.html




  Eric Edgar





  On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Ginny Swinson riverv...@gis.net wrote:

I have been following your group for several months and am amazed at 
how so many of you have been able to locate where you ancestors came from. I 
have been researching intermittently for 50 years and have had little success. 
My great-grandparents, Manuel Perry Madruga (b. about February 15, 1852, 
Azores) married Phillipa Perry Cardoza, (b. about August 25, 1865, Azores) in 
St Ann's church, Gloucester, MA, April 18, 1883. They had six children: Mary, 
March 9, 1889

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores

2013-02-03 Thread riverview
Pam,
I have sent several emails to her at her comcast address. No response. Thanks - 
I'll keep trying.
Ginny (Madruga) Swinson
  - Original Message - 
  From: Pam Santos 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 12:41 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores


  There is an older post of someone searching your couple also. You might want 
to contact this person Eleanor, eminniel at comcast.net. Below is the link 
maybe she has found something further.


  https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/azores/nKYvdoFU_yk





  On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

Before Ellis Island (1892 - 1950s) it was called Castle Garden. 
http://www.castlegarden.org/
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores

2013-02-03 Thread riverview
Sam, 
Thanks so much for taking time to email. As far as I know my family members all 
stayed in Massachusetts. Most are still here in Gloucester. Unfortunately my 
Portugese grandfather died when my dad was only 5, so not much to go on.
Ginny (Madruga) Swinson
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sam Koester 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 12:44 PM
  Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores


  Virginia;  Not sure if this is him or not but; worth following up.  
Ancestry.com shows a Manuel Pereira Madgruda naturalization card. Book 61, page 
358.  I'm not knowledgeable in this area so, perhaps someone else can tell you 
how to follow up on this information.  Since this is a Rhode Island record, it 
probably isn't your guy but; thought I would pass it on, in case.  Sam in Maz

   

  From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ginny Swinson
  Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 6:39 PM
  To: azores@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores

   

  I have been following your group for several months and am amazed at how so 
many of you have been able to locate where you ancestors came from. I have been 
researching intermittently for 50 years and have had little success. My 
great-grandparents, Manuel Perry Madruga (b. about February 15, 1852, Azores) 
married Phillipa Perry Cardoza, (b. about August 25, 1865, Azores) in St Ann's 
church, Gloucester, MA, April 18, 1883. They had six children: Mary, March 9, 
1889; Willie P.,September 26, 1890; John Perry (my ggrandfather) December 6, 
1892; Gertrude, August 10, 1896; Manuel Perry, October 8, 1899. All were born 
in Gloucester. I have been unable to get baptismal records because the church 
says that their records are with the Boston Archdiocese. I spent eight hours at 
their archives and there are no records there. They arrived before Ellis 
Island. I can find no naturalization papers for them  in Gloucester. All birth 
and death records indicate only Azores. I am getting old and would like to 
visit the village where they came from and to finally connect with my Portugese 
heritage. My grandfather died in the 1918 epidemic and so any connection to the 
past wast lost. PLEASE - anyone - HELP. I need advice and direction.

   

  Virginia (Ginny) Madruga Swinson

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores

2013-02-03 Thread riverview
Dear Eric,
Thanks for taking time to look for their records. They did not have a son 
Arthur. Manuel and Phillipa had six children, all born in Gloucester. I have 
corresponded many times in the past with Jeff Madruga in California, Arthur may 
be one of his family. Thanks again. I will check out the link you sent, just in 
case..
Ginny (Madruga) Swinson
  - Original Message - 
  From: eric edgar 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 2:21 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores


  Ginny, 


  Here is the birth record for their son, Arthur. Iy shows Manuel birthplace as 
Pico. From my family research in Pico, I know that Pereira Madruga is seen 
often in the Lajes das Pico Concelho, Cardoso is also concentraed in that area. 


  Since you have a birthdate, you should take look throug the parish records at 
the NNEPS site for the area. 
  http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/genealogias.html




  Eric Edgar





  On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Ginny Swinson riverv...@gis.net wrote:

I have been following your group for several months and am amazed at how so 
many of you have been able to locate where you ancestors came from. I have been 
researching intermittently for 50 years and have had little success. My 
great-grandparents, Manuel Perry Madruga (b. about February 15, 1852, Azores) 
married Phillipa Perry Cardoza, (b. about August 25, 1865, Azores) in St Ann's 
church, Gloucester, MA, April 18, 1883. They had six children: Mary, March 9, 
1889; Willie P.,September 26, 1890; John Perry (my ggrandfather) December 6, 
1892; Gertrude, August 10, 1896; Manuel Perry, October 8, 1899. All were born 
in Gloucester. I have been unable to get baptismal records because the church 
says that their records are with the Boston Archdiocese. I spent eight hours at 
their archives and there are no records there. They arrived before Ellis 
Island. I can find no naturalization papers for them  in Gloucester. All birth 
and death records indicate only Azores. I am getting old and would like to 
visit the village where they came from and to finally connect with my Portugese 
heritage. My grandfather died in the 1918 epidemic and so any connection to the 
past wast lost. PLEASE - anyone - HELP. I need advice and direction.

Virginia (Ginny) Madruga Swinson

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores

2013-02-03 Thread riverview
Pam,
Working backward from the death record which indicates age at death, in 
Gloucester, Ma, she, Phillipa should be born about August 24, 1865. I will 
check the link you have suggested. Thanks for taking the time.
Ginny (Madruga) Swinson
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  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 3:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores


  According to the 1900 census if this is the right person Felipa would have 
been been born abt 1847. Below is a baptism in Picos


  
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1845-1860/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1845-1860_item1/P10.html






  On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 11:21 AM, eric edgar noblankt...@gmail.com wrote:

Ginny, 


Here is the birth record for their son, Arthur. Iy shows Manuel birthplace 
as Pico. From my family research in Pico, I know that Pereira Madruga is seen 
often in the Lajes das Pico Concelho, Cardoso is also concentraed in that area. 


Since you have a birthdate, you should take look throug the parish records 
at the NNEPS site for the area. 
http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/genealogias.html




Eric Edgar





On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Ginny Swinson riverv...@gis.net wrote:

  I have been following your group for several months and am amazed at how 
so many of you have been able to locate where you ancestors came from. I have 
been researching intermittently for 50 years and have had little success. My 
great-grandparents, Manuel Perry Madruga (b. about February 15, 1852, Azores) 
married Phillipa Perry Cardoza, (b. about August 25, 1865, Azores) in St Ann's 
church, Gloucester, MA, April 18, 1883. They had six children: Mary, March 9, 
1889; Willie P.,September 26, 1890; John Perry (my ggrandfather) December 6, 
1892; Gertrude, August 10, 1896; Manuel Perry, October 8, 1899. All were born 
in Gloucester. I have been unable to get baptismal records because the church 
says that their records are with the Boston Archdiocese. I spent eight hours at 
their archives and there are no records there. They arrived before Ellis 
Island. I can find no naturalization papers for them  in Gloucester. All birth 
and death records indicate only Azores. I am getting old and would like to 
visit the village where they came from and to finally connect with my Portugese 
heritage. My grandfather died in the 1918 epidemic and so any connection to the 
past wast lost. PLEASE - anyone - HELP. I need advice and direction.

  Virginia (Ginny) Madruga Swinson

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores

2013-02-03 Thread riverview
Pam,
In my original post I have given the names and dates of birth of their six 
children, all born in Gloucester, MA. All records have been taken from the city 
of Gloucester archives. The parents dates of birth are approximate based on 
their age at death in Gloucester. Place of birth - Azores. Thanks so much for 
taking time.
Ginny (Madruga) Swinson

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  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 3:50 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores


  I think if you give us their children it might be more helpful.


  On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:

According to the 1900 census if this is the right person Felipa would have 
been been born abt 1847. Below is a baptism in Picos



http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1845-1860/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1845-1860_item1/P10.html







On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 11:21 AM, eric edgar noblankt...@gmail.com wrote:

  Ginny, 


  Here is the birth record for their son, Arthur. Iy shows Manuel 
birthplace as Pico. From my family research in Pico, I know that Pereira 
Madruga is seen often in the Lajes das Pico Concelho, Cardoso is also 
concentraed in that area. 


  Since you have a birthdate, you should take look throug the parish 
records at the NNEPS site for the area. 
  http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/genealogias.html




  Eric Edgar





  On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Ginny Swinson riverv...@gis.net wrote:

I have been following your group for several months and am amazed at 
how so many of you have been able to locate where you ancestors came from. I 
have been researching intermittently for 50 years and have had little success. 
My great-grandparents, Manuel Perry Madruga (b. about February 15, 1852, 
Azores) married Phillipa Perry Cardoza, (b. about August 25, 1865, Azores) in 
St Ann's church, Gloucester, MA, April 18, 1883. They had six children: Mary, 
March 9, 1889; Willie P.,September 26, 1890; John Perry (my ggrandfather) 
December 6, 1892; Gertrude, August 10, 1896; Manuel Perry, October 8, 1899. All 
were born in Gloucester. I have been unable to get baptismal records because 
the church says that their records are with the Boston Archdiocese. I spent 
eight hours at their archives and there are no records there. They arrived 
before Ellis Island. I can find no naturalization papers for them  in 
Gloucester. All birth and death records indicate only Azores. I am getting old 
and would like to visit the village where they came from and to finally connect 
with my Portugese heritage. My grandfather died in the 1918 epidemic and so any 
connection to the past wast lost. PLEASE - anyone - HELP. I need advice and 
direction.

Virginia (Ginny) Madruga Swinson

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores

2013-02-03 Thread riverview
Pam,
I looked at that page for a long time. I didn't see Felipa. Perhaps I'm not 
looking at the right page. I don't speak Portugese and am having a difficult 
time deciphering the information on the page. Please advise.
Ginny (Madruga) Swinson
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  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 5:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores


  Here is a Felipa in 1862


  
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1860-1867/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1860-1867_item1/P63.html


  On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:

I don't think if that baptism is correct, since she would of been 52 when 
she had Manuel in 1899



On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:

  oops you did give children sorry about that



  On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:

I think if you give us their children it might be more helpful.



On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com 
wrote:

  According to the 1900 census if this is the right person Felipa would 
have been been born abt 1847. Below is a baptism in Picos


  
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1845-1860/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1845-1860_item1/P10.html







  On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 11:21 AM, eric edgar noblankt...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Ginny, 


Here is the birth record for their son, Arthur. Iy shows Manuel 
birthplace as Pico. From my family research in Pico, I know that Pereira 
Madruga is seen often in the Lajes das Pico Concelho, Cardoso is also 
concentraed in that area. 


Since you have a birthdate, you should take look throug the parish 
records at the NNEPS site for the area. 
http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/genealogias.html




Eric Edgar





On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Ginny Swinson riverv...@gis.net 
wrote:

  I have been following your group for several months and am amazed 
at how so many of you have been able to locate where you ancestors came from. I 
have been researching intermittently for 50 years and have had little success. 
My great-grandparents, Manuel Perry Madruga (b. about February 15, 1852, 
Azores) married Phillipa Perry Cardoza, (b. about August 25, 1865, Azores) in 
St Ann's church, Gloucester, MA, April 18, 1883. They had six children: Mary, 
March 9, 1889; Willie P.,September 26, 1890; John Perry (my ggrandfather) 
December 6, 1892; Gertrude, August 10, 1896; Manuel Perry, October 8, 1899. All 
were born in Gloucester. I have been unable to get baptismal records because 
the church says that their records are with the Boston Archdiocese. I spent 
eight hours at their archives and there are no records there. They arrived 
before Ellis Island. I can find no naturalization papers for them  in 
Gloucester. All birth and death records indicate only Azores. I am getting old 
and would like to visit the village where they came from and to finally connect 
with my Portugese heritage. My grandfather died in the 1918 epidemic and so any 
connection to the past wast lost. PLEASE - anyone - HELP. I need advice and 
direction.

  Virginia (Ginny) Madruga Swinson

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores

2013-02-03 Thread riverview
Pam,
I am rechecking my records for Phillipa. I may have made a mistake. There are 
conflicting records. Her marriage certificate says she was 21 when married in 
1883. That means born in 1862.
Her son Manuel was born 1899, which means she was 37.
Her obit (1921) says she was 55 - born 1866? The obit is not official - it is 
from the local newspaper. I will go to City Hall this week to get the official 
one.

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  Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 4:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores


  I don't think if that baptism is correct, since she would of been 52 when she 
had Manuel in 1899


  On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:

oops you did give children sorry about that



On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:

  I think if you give us their children it might be more helpful.



  On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:

According to the 1900 census if this is the right person Felipa would 
have been been born abt 1847. Below is a baptism in Picos



http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1845-1860/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1845-1860_item1/P10.html







On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 11:21 AM, eric edgar noblankt...@gmail.com 
wrote:

  Ginny, 


  Here is the birth record for their son, Arthur. Iy shows Manuel 
birthplace as Pico. From my family research in Pico, I know that Pereira 
Madruga is seen often in the Lajes das Pico Concelho, Cardoso is also 
concentraed in that area. 


  Since you have a birthdate, you should take look throug the parish 
records at the NNEPS site for the area. 
  http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/genealogias.html




  Eric Edgar





  On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Ginny Swinson riverv...@gis.net 
wrote:

I have been following your group for several months and am amazed 
at how so many of you have been able to locate where you ancestors came from. I 
have been researching intermittently for 50 years and have had little success. 
My great-grandparents, Manuel Perry Madruga (b. about February 15, 1852, 
Azores) married Phillipa Perry Cardoza, (b. about August 25, 1865, Azores) in 
St Ann's church, Gloucester, MA, April 18, 1883. They had six children: Mary, 
March 9, 1889; Willie P.,September 26, 1890; John Perry (my ggrandfather) 
December 6, 1892; Gertrude, August 10, 1896; Manuel Perry, October 8, 1899. All 
were born in Gloucester. I have been unable to get baptismal records because 
the church says that their records are with the Boston Archdiocese. I spent 
eight hours at their archives and there are no records there. They arrived 
before Ellis Island. I can find no naturalization papers for them  in 
Gloucester. All birth and death records indicate only Azores. I am getting old 
and would like to visit the village where they came from and to finally connect 
with my Portugese heritage. My grandfather died in the 1918 epidemic and so any 
connection to the past wast lost. PLEASE - anyone - HELP. I need advice and 
direction.

Virginia (Ginny) Madruga Swinson

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