RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Menezes genealogy, Sao Miguel
Thank you! eliseu De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de kerrysulliva...@gmail.com Enviada: sábado, 28 de julho de 2018 21:56 Para: Azores Genealogy Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Menezes genealogy, Sao Miguel Hi Eliseu, I found the other sisters, the daughters of Luzia Ledo..also two sons. Mary Conceicas married Charles Mello, of Sao Miguel. They lived in Cambridge Massachusetts. She died in 1973, she had two children. Mary dos Anjes married Arthur Silva Fairterceiro of Sao Miguel. They lived in Cambridge, Massachusetts. She died in 1971, she had seven children Angelo, a son, remained in Sao Miguel. He was alive in the 1970s, when his sister Mercedes came to visit. I do not know when he passed away. Joseph, a son, was in the U.S, living in Fall River Massachusetts. He died before 1973, I do not know exactly when. Mercedes I have noted before, she is my great grandmother. Luzia, or Louise, married John Alessi and had four children, and lived in Boston. She died in 2000. thank you again for all of your help. On Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 3:52:00 PM UTC-5, kerrysu...@gmail.com <mailto:kerrysu...@gmail.com> wrote: Eliseu, let me know if you want info on Luzia Ledo's daughters. One of them is my great grandmother. I am trying to track down the other three who came to the U.S. best, Kerry On Monday, August 22, 2016 at 3:39:31 AM UTC-4, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote: Hi! Luzia Águeda Ledo was born in 20.7.1865. Matriz( Nossa Senhora da Estrela), Ribeira Grande. She married in 28.1.1895 in Matriz Ribeira Grande to José da Costa Menezes born 31.1.1866, Matriz da Ribeira Grande. He was a carpenter. (The Ledo are cousins of me) It’s a start!!! Muito Obrigado, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva, “sharing is the best way of growth… so stay gold!” Azores (S. Miguel, Graciosa, Faial); Mainland (Alentejo) (http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel?lang=en) De: azo...@googlegroups.com <mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com> [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] Em nome de kerrysu...@gmail.com <mailto:kerrysu...@gmail.com> Enviada: 22 de agosto de 2016 01:47 Para: Azores Genealogy mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com> > Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Menezes genealogy, Sao Miguel Hi all, New to list - my ggrandfather Jose da Costa Menezes was born 1900 in Ribeira Grande and emigrated to America between 1916 and 1918. Once in Massachusetts, he married his cousin, Maria das Merces. She was also from Ribeira Grande, born in 1903 or 1904. Her father was Jose da Costa. Her mother, I believe, was named Luzia Ledo. She arrived in New York in 1919 with her father (who had been in America for 12 years, the story handed down is that he returned to get his daughters after their mother died from the Spanish flu). The sisters were Maria Conceicao, Maria des Anjes, and Luzia. They left behind a brother, Angelo Costa Menezes. Waiting for them in Fall River was Jose da Costa's brother, Gabriel da Costa. Jose Menezes and Maria Merces, or Mercedes as we know her, were married in New Bedford in 1923. They moved to Cambridge, MA by 1924, where they had a number of children. Jose Menezes, or Joseph, died in 1972, Mercedes in 1983. I have combed the baptisms looking for Jose Menezes - his dob is 9/16/1900 - but did not find him. Mercedes is a bit more complicated as the date of birth I have for her is 1902, which we know was not true, but was stated to make her older so she could work. (this caused her a problem when she tried to get Social Security). I believe it was resolved as 1903, but her Massachusetts Death Index dob is 1904. I will have to check both years. The date is 5/28. I'm looking for any confirmation on these families... thank you! Kerry Sullivan -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores+un...@googlegroups.com> . Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscrib
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Menezes genealogy, Sao Miguel
Hi Eliseu, I found the other sisters, the daughters of Luzia Ledo..also two sons. Mary Conceicas married Charles Mello, of Sao Miguel. They lived in Cambridge Massachusetts. She died in 1973, she had two children. Mary dos Anjes married Arthur Silva Fairterceiro of Sao Miguel. They lived in Cambridge, Massachusetts. She died in 1971, she had seven children Angelo, a son, remained in Sao Miguel. He was alive in the 1970s, when his sister Mercedes came to visit. I do not know when he passed away. Joseph, a son, was in the U.S, living in Fall River Massachusetts. He died before 1973, I do not know exactly when. Mercedes I have noted before, she is my great grandmother. Luzia, or Louise, married John Alessi and had four children, and lived in Boston. She died in 2000. thank you again for all of your help. On Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 3:52:00 PM UTC-5, kerrysu...@gmail.com wrote: > > Eliseu, let me know if you want info on Luzia Ledo's daughters. One of > them is my great grandmother. I am trying to track down the other three > who came to the U.S. > > best, > > Kerry > > On Monday, August 22, 2016 at 3:39:31 AM UTC-4, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva > wrote: >> >> Hi! >> >> Luzia Águeda Ledo was born in 20.7.1865. Matriz( Nossa Senhora da >> Estrela), Ribeira Grande. She married in 28.1.1895 in Matriz Ribeira Grande >> to José da Costa Menezes born 31.1.1866, Matriz da Ribeira Grande. He was a >> carpenter. (The Ledo are cousins of me) >> >> It’s a start!!! >> >> Muito Obrigado, >> >> *Eliseu Pacheco da Silva, “sharing is the best way of growth… so stay >> gold!”* >> >> *Azores (S. Miguel, Graciosa, Faial); Mainland (Alentejo)* >> >> (http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel?lang=en) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *De:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *Em nome >> de *kerrysu...@gmail.com >> *Enviada:* 22 de agosto de 2016 01:47 >> *Para:* Azores Genealogy >> *Assunto:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Menezes genealogy, Sao Miguel >> >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> New to list - my ggrandfather Jose da Costa Menezes was born 1900 in >> Ribeira Grande and emigrated to America between 1916 and 1918. Once in >> Massachusetts, he married his cousin, Maria das Merces. She was also from >> Ribeira Grande, born in 1903 or 1904. Her father was Jose da Costa. Her >> mother, I believe, was named Luzia Ledo. She arrived in New York in 1919 >> with her father (who had been in America for 12 years, the story handed >> down is that he returned to get his daughters after their mother died from >> the Spanish flu). The sisters were Maria Conceicao, Maria des Anjes, and >> Luzia. They left behind a brother, Angelo Costa Menezes. Waiting for them >> in Fall River was Jose da Costa's brother, Gabriel da Costa. Jose Menezes >> and Maria Merces, or Mercedes as we know her, were married in New Bedford >> in 1923. They moved to Cambridge, MA by 1924, where they had a number of >> children. Jose Menezes, or Joseph, died in 1972, Mercedes in 1983. >> >> >> >> I have combed the baptisms looking for Jose Menezes - his dob is >> 9/16/1900 - but did not find him. Mercedes is a bit more complicated as >> the date of birth I have for her is 1902, which we know was not true, but >> was stated to make her older so she could work. (this caused her a problem >> when she tried to get Social Security). I believe it was resolved as 1903, >> but her Massachusetts Death Index dob is 1904. I will have to check both >> years. The date is 5/28. >> >> >> >> I'm looking for any confirmation on these families... >> >> >> >> thank you! Kerry Sullivan >> >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: Re.: [AZORES-Genealogy] Menezes genealogy, Sao Miguel
An update here - I have located one of the sisters that I mentioned below. Maria Conceicas married Charles Mello and also, along with her sister Mercedes, moved to Cambridge. Mary, as she was known, died in 1973 in Cambridge, Massachusetts. They had two children, Anthony and Alice. Also, to add to the Menezes/Ledo children below, I believe there was also a son, Angelo, who remained in Ribeira Grande. This is according to the immigration paper that lists the contact remaining in the country of origin. I have just unearthed a photo of Mercedes' trip to Ribeira Grande in the 1970s, and it is her with, I believe, Angelo. On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 8:54:28 PM UTC-5, kerrysu...@gmail.com wrote: > > The children, as I know them, of Jose da Costa and Luzia Ledo were: (I > located this on both passenger lists and the outgoing passport lists on the > CCA site, the passports were issued on 21 Nov 1919) > > Maria de Conceicas Menezes, born about 1895 > Maria des Anjes Menezes, born about 1896 > Maria de Merces Ledo Menezes, born 5/28/1903 (I think, there is some > question about the year of her birth, but it's between 1902 and 1905) > Luzia Agueda Ledo Menezes, born about 1906. > > I am still trying to find out what happened to the other sisters after > they arrived in the U.S. in December of 1919. They landed in New Bedford; > Maria de Merces, or Mercedes as she was called, married her cousin Jose da > Costa Menezes (son of Alberto da Costa Menezes in 1920. They moved to > Cambridge, Massachusetts the following year. I know that Luzia went with > them; she and her father are living with Joseph and Mercedes in 1930 and I > know that Mercedes and Louise, as Luzia was called here, remained close > through the 1930s and 1940s. Mercedes died 12/9/1983. Her husband died > 3/11/1972, both in Cambridge. I am working on finding the other sisters. > I believe also that a brother, Angelo, remained in Ribeira Grande, at > least in 1919. Family tradition has it that Luzia Ledo and possibly other > of her children died in the Spanish flu epidemic in 1918-1919, I do not > know if this is true. > > I greatly appreciate you telling me that their freguesia was Matriz! I > have found some of the baptismals and the marriage of Luzia Ledo. I do not > speak Portuguese but my old school-time Latin is helping me, and my > brother-in-law is Brazilian and has offered to help as well! > > I will keep you posted as I find things! > > Kerry > > > On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 5:21:59 AM UTC-5, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva > wrote: >> >> Hi. I would love any info you have. Thank you very much for your response. >> Eliseu >> >> Enviado através de Huawei Mobile >> >> >> Mensagem original >> Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Menezes genealogy, Sao Miguel >> De: kerrysu...@gmail.com >> Para: Azores Genealogy >> CC: >> >> >> Eliseu, let me know if you want info on Luzia Ledo's daughters. One of >> them is my great grandmother. I am trying to track down the other three >> who came to the U.S. >> >> best, >> >> Kerry >> >> On Monday, August 22, 2016 at 3:39:31 AM UTC-4, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi! >>> >>> Luzia Águeda Ledo was born in 20.7.1865. Matriz( Nossa Senhora da >>> Estrela), Ribeira Grande. She married in 28.1.1895 in Matriz Ribeira Grande >>> to José da Costa Menezes born 31.1.1866, Matriz da Ribeira Grande. He was a >>> carpenter. (The Ledo are cousins of me) >>> >>> It’s a start!!! >>> >>> Muito Obrigado, >>> >>> *Eliseu Pacheco da Silva, “sharing is the best way of growth… so stay >>> gold!”* >>> >>> *Azores (S. Miguel, Graciosa, Faial); Mainland (Alentejo)* >>> >>> (http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel?lang=en) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *De:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *Em nome >>> de *kerrysu...@gmail.com >>> *Enviada:* 22 de agosto de 2016 01:47 >>> *Para:* Azores Genealogy <azo...@googlegroups.com> >>> *Assunto:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Menezes genealogy, Sao Miguel >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> >>> >>> New to list - my ggrandfather Jose da Costa Menezes was born 1900 in >>> Ribeira Grande and emigrated to America between 1916 and 1918. Once in >>> Massachusetts, he married his cousin, Maria das Merces. She was also from >>> Ribeira Grande, born in
Re: Re.: [AZORES-Genealogy] Menezes genealogy, Sao Miguel
Latin helps. Or even any of the Romance languages (Spanish, Italian, French). All verbs have a conjugation pattern. The adjective is after the noun. Nouns have genders. You just learn that son is "filho" instead of "hijo" from high school Spanish. Even those who weren't required to take a foreign languagethe documents follow a format. You learn the format and few keywords. With some perseverance, it can be done! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 5:08 PM, <kerrysulliva...@gmail.com> wrote: > The children, as I know them, of Jose da Costa and Luzia Ledo were: (I > located this on both passenger lists and the outgoing passport lists on the > CCA site, the passports were issued on 21 Nov 1919) > > Maria de Conceicas Menezes, born about 1895 > Maria des Anjes Menezes, born about 1896 > Maria de Merces Ledo Menezes, born 5/28/1903 (I think, there is some > question about the year of her birth, but it's between 1902 and 1905) > Luzia Agueda Ledo Menezes, born about 1906. > > I am still trying to find out what happened to the other sisters after > they arrived in the U.S. in December of 1919. They landed in New Bedford; > Maria de Merces, or Mercedes as she was called, married her cousin Jose da > Costa Menezes (son of Alberto da Costa Menezes in 1920. They moved to > Cambridge, Massachusetts the following year. I know that Luzia went with > them; she and her father are living with Joseph and Mercedes in 1930 and I > know that Mercedes and Louise, as Luzia was called here, remained close > through the 1930s and 1940s. Mercedes died 12/9/1983. Her husband died > 3/11/1972, both in Cambridge. I am working on finding the other sisters. > I believe also that a brother, Angelo, remained in Ribeira Grande, at least > in 1919. Family tradition has it that Luzia Ledo and possibly other of her > children died in the Spanish flu epidemic in 1918-1919, I do not know if > this is true. > > I greatly appreciate you telling me that their freguesia was Matriz! I > have found some of the baptismals and the marriage of Luzia Ledo. I do not > speak Portuguese but my old school-time Latin is helping me, and my > brother-in-law is Brazilian and has offered to help as well! > > I will keep you posted as I find things! > > Kerry > > > On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 5:21:59 AM UTC-5, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva > wrote: >> >> Hi. I would love any info you have. Thank you very much for your response. >> Eliseu >> >> Enviado através de Huawei Mobile >> >> >> Mensagem original >> Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Menezes genealogy, Sao Miguel >> De: kerrysu...@gmail.com >> >> Para: Azores Genealogy >> CC: >> >> >> Eliseu, let me know if you want info on Luzia Ledo's daughters. One of >> them is my great grandmother. I am trying to track down the other three >> who came to the U.S. >> >> best, >> >> Kerry >> >> On Monday, August 22, 2016 at 3:39:31 AM UTC-4, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi! >>> >>> Luzia Águeda Ledo was born in 20.7.1865. Matriz( Nossa Senhora da >>> Estrela), Ribeira Grande. She married in 28.1.1895 in Matriz Ribeira Grande >>> to José da Costa Menezes born 31.1.1866, Matriz da Ribeira Grande. He was a >>> carpenter. (The Ledo are cousins of me) >>> >>> It’s a start!!! >>> >>> Muito Obrigado, >>> >>> *Eliseu Pacheco da Silva, “sharing is the best way of growth… so stay >>> gold!”* >>> >>> *Azores (S. Miguel, Graciosa, Faial); Mainland (Alentejo)* >>> >>> (http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel?lang=en) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *De:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *Em nome >>> de *kerrysu...@gmail.com >>> *Enviada:* 22 de agosto de 2016 01:47 >>> *Para:* Azores Genealogy <azo...@googlegroups.com> >>> *Assunto:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Menezes genealogy, Sao Miguel >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> >>> >>> New to list - my ggrandfather Jose da Costa Menezes was born 1900 in >>> Ribeira Grande and emigrated to America between 1916 and 1918. Once in >>> Massachusetts, he married his cousin, Maria das Merces. She was also from >>> Ribeira Grande, born in 1903 or 1904. Her father was Jose da Costa. Her >>> mother, I believe, was named Luzia Le
Re: Re.: [AZORES-Genealogy] Menezes genealogy, Sao Miguel
The children, as I know them, of Jose da Costa and Luzia Ledo were: (I located this on both passenger lists and the outgoing passport lists on the CCA site, the passports were issued on 21 Nov 1919) Maria de Conceicas Menezes, born about 1895 Maria des Anjes Menezes, born about 1896 Maria de Merces Ledo Menezes, born 5/28/1903 (I think, there is some question about the year of her birth, but it's between 1902 and 1905) Luzia Agueda Ledo Menezes, born about 1906. I am still trying to find out what happened to the other sisters after they arrived in the U.S. in December of 1919. They landed in New Bedford; Maria de Merces, or Mercedes as she was called, married her cousin Jose da Costa Menezes (son of Alberto da Costa Menezes in 1920. They moved to Cambridge, Massachusetts the following year. I know that Luzia went with them; she and her father are living with Joseph and Mercedes in 1930 and I know that Mercedes and Louise, as Luzia was called here, remained close through the 1930s and 1940s. Mercedes died 12/9/1983. Her husband died 3/11/1972, both in Cambridge. I am working on finding the other sisters. I believe also that a brother, Angelo, remained in Ribeira Grande, at least in 1919. Family tradition has it that Luzia Ledo and possibly other of her children died in the Spanish flu epidemic in 1918-1919, I do not know if this is true. I greatly appreciate you telling me that their freguesia was Matriz! I have found some of the baptismals and the marriage of Luzia Ledo. I do not speak Portuguese but my old school-time Latin is helping me, and my brother-in-law is Brazilian and has offered to help as well! I will keep you posted as I find things! Kerry On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 5:21:59 AM UTC-5, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote: > > Hi. I would love any info you have. Thank you very much for your response. > Eliseu > > Enviado através de Huawei Mobile > > > Mensagem original ---- > Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Menezes genealogy, Sao Miguel > De: kerrysu...@gmail.com > Para: Azores Genealogy > CC: > > > Eliseu, let me know if you want info on Luzia Ledo's daughters. One of > them is my great grandmother. I am trying to track down the other three > who came to the U.S. > > best, > > Kerry > > On Monday, August 22, 2016 at 3:39:31 AM UTC-4, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva > wrote: >> >> Hi! >> >> Luzia Águeda Ledo was born in 20.7.1865. Matriz( Nossa Senhora da >> Estrela), Ribeira Grande. She married in 28.1.1895 in Matriz Ribeira Grande >> to José da Costa Menezes born 31.1.1866, Matriz da Ribeira Grande. He was a >> carpenter. (The Ledo are cousins of me) >> >> It’s a start!!! >> >> Muito Obrigado, >> >> *Eliseu Pacheco da Silva, “sharing is the best way of growth… so stay >> gold!”* >> >> *Azores (S. Miguel, Graciosa, Faial); Mainland (Alentejo)* >> >> (http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel?lang=en) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *De:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *Em nome >> de *kerrysu...@gmail.com >> *Enviada:* 22 de agosto de 2016 01:47 >> *Para:* Azores Genealogy <azo...@googlegroups.com> >> *Assunto:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Menezes genealogy, Sao Miguel >> >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> New to list - my ggrandfather Jose da Costa Menezes was born 1900 in >> Ribeira Grande and emigrated to America between 1916 and 1918. Once in >> Massachusetts, he married his cousin, Maria das Merces. She was also from >> Ribeira Grande, born in 1903 or 1904. Her father was Jose da Costa. Her >> mother, I believe, was named Luzia Ledo. She arrived in New York in 1919 >> with her father (who had been in America for 12 years, the story handed >> down is that he returned to get his daughters after their mother died from >> the Spanish flu). The sisters were Maria Conceicao, Maria des Anjes, and >> Luzia. They left behind a brother, Angelo Costa Menezes. Waiting for them >> in Fall River was Jose da Costa's brother, Gabriel da Costa. Jose Menezes >> and Maria Merces, or Mercedes as we know her, were married in New Bedford >> in 1923. They moved to Cambridge, MA by 1924, where they had a number of >> children. Jose Menezes, or Joseph, died in 1972, Mercedes in 1983. >> >> >> >> I have combed the baptisms looking for Jose Menezes - his dob is >> 9/16/1900 - but did not find him. Mercedes is a bit more complicated as >> the date of birth I have for her is 1902, which we know was not true, but >> was stated to make her older so she could work. (this caused her a problem >&g
Re.: [AZORES-Genealogy] Menezes genealogy, Sao Miguel
Hi. I would love any info you have. Thank you very much for your response.EliseuEnviado através de Huawei Mobile Mensagem original Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Menezes genealogy, Sao MiguelDe: kerrysulliva...@gmail.comPara: Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>CC: Eliseu, let me know if you want info on Luzia Ledo's daughters. One of them is my great grandmother. I am trying to track down the other three who came to the U.S.best,KerryOn Monday, August 22, 2016 at 3:39:31 AM UTC-4, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote:Hi!Luzia Águeda Ledo was born in 20.7.1865. Matriz( Nossa Senhora da Estrela), Ribeira Grande. She married in 28.1.1895 in Matriz Ribeira Grande to José da Costa Menezes born 31.1.1866, Matriz da Ribeira Grande. He was a carpenter. (The Ledo are cousins of me)It’s a start!!!Muito Obrigado,Eliseu Pacheco da Silva, “sharing is the best way of growth… so stay gold!”Azores (S. Miguel, Graciosa, Faial); Mainland (Alentejo)(http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel?lang=en)De: azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] Em nome de kerrysu...@gmail.comEnviada: 22 de agosto de 2016 01:47Para: Azores Genealogy <azo...@googlegroups.com>Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Menezes genealogy, Sao Miguel Hi all, New to list - my ggrandfather Jose da Costa Menezes was born 1900 in Ribeira Grande and emigrated to America between 1916 and 1918. Once in Massachusetts, he married his cousin, Maria das Merces. She was also from Ribeira Grande, born in 1903 or 1904. Her father was Jose da Costa. Her mother, I believe, was named Luzia Ledo. She arrived in New York in 1919 with her father (who had been in America for 12 years, the story handed down is that he returned to get his daughters after their mother died from the Spanish flu). The sisters were Maria Conceicao, Maria des Anjes, and Luzia. They left behind a brother, Angelo Costa Menezes. Waiting for them in Fall River was Jose da Costa's brother, Gabriel da Costa. Jose Menezes and Maria Merces, or Mercedes as we know her, were married in New Bedford in 1923. They moved to Cambridge, MA by 1924, where they had a number of children. Jose Menezes, or Joseph, died in 1972, Mercedes in 1983. I have combed the baptisms looking for Jose Menezes - his dob is 9/16/1900 - but did not find him. Mercedes is a bit more complicated as the date of birth I have for her is 1902, which we know was not true, but was stated to make her older so she could work. (this caused her a problem when she tried to get Social Security). I believe it was resolved as 1903, but her Massachusetts Death Index dob is 1904. I will have to check both years. The date is 5/28. I'm looking for any confirmation on these families... thank you! Kerry Sullivan-- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com.Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Menezes genealogy, Sao Miguel
Eliseu, let me know if you want info on Luzia Ledo's daughters. One of them is my great grandmother. I am trying to track down the other three who came to the U.S. best, Kerry On Monday, August 22, 2016 at 3:39:31 AM UTC-4, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote: > > Hi! > > Luzia Águeda Ledo was born in 20.7.1865. Matriz( Nossa Senhora da > Estrela), Ribeira Grande. She married in 28.1.1895 in Matriz Ribeira Grande > to José da Costa Menezes born 31.1.1866, Matriz da Ribeira Grande. He was a > carpenter. (The Ledo are cousins of me) > > It’s a start!!! > > Muito Obrigado, > > *Eliseu Pacheco da Silva, “sharing is the best way of growth… so stay > gold!”* > > *Azores (S. Miguel, Graciosa, Faial); Mainland (Alentejo)* > > (http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel?lang=en) > > > > > > > > > > *De:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > azo...@googlegroups.com ] *Em nome de *kerrysu...@gmail.com > > *Enviada:* 22 de agosto de 2016 01:47 > *Para:* Azores Genealogy <azo...@googlegroups.com > > *Assunto:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Menezes genealogy, Sao Miguel > > > > Hi all, > > > > New to list - my ggrandfather Jose da Costa Menezes was born 1900 in > Ribeira Grande and emigrated to America between 1916 and 1918. Once in > Massachusetts, he married his cousin, Maria das Merces. She was also from > Ribeira Grande, born in 1903 or 1904. Her father was Jose da Costa. Her > mother, I believe, was named Luzia Ledo. She arrived in New York in 1919 > with her father (who had been in America for 12 years, the story handed > down is that he returned to get his daughters after their mother died from > the Spanish flu). The sisters were Maria Conceicao, Maria des Anjes, and > Luzia. They left behind a brother, Angelo Costa Menezes. Waiting for them > in Fall River was Jose da Costa's brother, Gabriel da Costa. Jose Menezes > and Maria Merces, or Mercedes as we know her, were married in New Bedford > in 1923. They moved to Cambridge, MA by 1924, where they had a number of > children. Jose Menezes, or Joseph, died in 1972, Mercedes in 1983. > > > > I have combed the baptisms looking for Jose Menezes - his dob is 9/16/1900 > - but did not find him. Mercedes is a bit more complicated as the date of > birth I have for her is 1902, which we know was not true, but was stated to > make her older so she could work. (this caused her a problem when she > tried to get Social Security). I believe it was resolved as 1903, but her > Massachusetts Death Index dob is 1904. I will have to check both years. > The date is 5/28. > > > > I'm looking for any confirmation on these families... > > > > thank you! Kerry Sullivan > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com . > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Menezes genealogy, Sao Miguel
Kerry, you are not part of the Azores DNA project on FTDNA. When you say you had your "maternal" DNA, I don't know what you are referring to. There's no "maternal" DNA test on the market with any DNA testing company. There's a mitochondrial DNA test (mtDNA) that tests your mother's mother's mother's line (bottom of your pedigree), but those tests don't say you are Portuguese and German. It would tell you that you are Haplogroup Something (a letter). And that the migration path for the haplogroup came out of Africa went up the the Middle East, made a left and went and populated Europe. This is anthropology stuff, way before countries and political boundaries ever existed. So there's no way to say Portugal and Germany. Yes, the were Flemish in the Azores. English too. But this is not in the mtDNA test. You need to join your results to the Azores DNA project on FTDNA so I can figure out what you are trying to explain. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Menezes genealogy, Sao Miguel
Thank you so much! First of anything I have ever seen on them. (I have been distracted on other lines since I wrote this) Family tradition has it that Luzia died in the flu epidemic. My grandmother was named for her. Out of interest, I had my maternal DNA done (my Azorean side) and it came out Portuguese and German..I think I have seen something somewhere about a colony of Dutch settlers from Flanders on Sao Miguel, is this correct, does anyone know? On Monday, August 22, 2016 at 3:39:31 AM UTC-4, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote: > > Hi! > > Luzia Águeda Ledo was born in 20.7.1865. Matriz( Nossa Senhora da > Estrela), Ribeira Grande. She married in 28.1.1895 in Matriz Ribeira Grande > to José da Costa Menezes born 31.1.1866, Matriz da Ribeira Grande. He was a > carpenter. (The Ledo are cousins of me) > > It’s a start!!! > > Muito Obrigado, > > *Eliseu Pacheco da Silva, “sharing is the best way of growth… so stay > gold!”* > > *Azores (S. Miguel, Graciosa, Faial); Mainland (Alentejo)* > > (http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel?lang=en) > > > > > > > > > > *De:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > azo...@googlegroups.com ] *Em nome de *kerrysu...@gmail.com > > *Enviada:* 22 de agosto de 2016 01:47 > *Para:* Azores Genealogy <azo...@googlegroups.com > > *Assunto:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Menezes genealogy, Sao Miguel > > > > Hi all, > > > > New to list - my ggrandfather Jose da Costa Menezes was born 1900 in > Ribeira Grande and emigrated to America between 1916 and 1918. Once in > Massachusetts, he married his cousin, Maria das Merces. She was also from > Ribeira Grande, born in 1903 or 1904. Her father was Jose da Costa. Her > mother, I believe, was named Luzia Ledo. She arrived in New York in 1919 > with her father (who had been in America for 12 years, the story handed > down is that he returned to get his daughters after their mother died from > the Spanish flu). The sisters were Maria Conceicao, Maria des Anjes, and > Luzia. They left behind a brother, Angelo Costa Menezes. Waiting for them > in Fall River was Jose da Costa's brother, Gabriel da Costa. Jose Menezes > and Maria Merces, or Mercedes as we know her, were married in New Bedford > in 1923. They moved to Cambridge, MA by 1924, where they had a number of > children. Jose Menezes, or Joseph, died in 1972, Mercedes in 1983. > > > > I have combed the baptisms looking for Jose Menezes - his dob is 9/16/1900 > - but did not find him. Mercedes is a bit more complicated as the date of > birth I have for her is 1902, which we know was not true, but was stated to > make her older so she could work. (this caused her a problem when she > tried to get Social Security). I believe it was resolved as 1903, but her > Massachusetts Death Index dob is 1904. I will have to check both years. > The date is 5/28. > > > > I'm looking for any confirmation on these families... > > > > thank you! Kerry Sullivan > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com . > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Menezes genealogy, Sao Miguel
Hi! Luzia Águeda Ledo was born in 20.7.1865. Matriz( Nossa Senhora da Estrela), Ribeira Grande. She married in 28.1.1895 in Matriz Ribeira Grande to José da Costa Menezes born 31.1.1866, Matriz da Ribeira Grande. He was a carpenter. (The Ledo are cousins of me) It’s a start!!! Muito Obrigado, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva, “sharing is the best way of growth… so stay gold!” Azores (S. Miguel, Graciosa, Faial); Mainland (Alentejo) (http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel?lang=en) De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de kerrysulliva...@gmail.com Enviada: 22 de agosto de 2016 01:47 Para: Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com> Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Menezes genealogy, Sao Miguel Hi all, New to list - my ggrandfather Jose da Costa Menezes was born 1900 in Ribeira Grande and emigrated to America between 1916 and 1918. Once in Massachusetts, he married his cousin, Maria das Merces. She was also from Ribeira Grande, born in 1903 or 1904. Her father was Jose da Costa. Her mother, I believe, was named Luzia Ledo. She arrived in New York in 1919 with her father (who had been in America for 12 years, the story handed down is that he returned to get his daughters after their mother died from the Spanish flu). The sisters were Maria Conceicao, Maria des Anjes, and Luzia. They left behind a brother, Angelo Costa Menezes. Waiting for them in Fall River was Jose da Costa's brother, Gabriel da Costa. Jose Menezes and Maria Merces, or Mercedes as we know her, were married in New Bedford in 1923. They moved to Cambridge, MA by 1924, where they had a number of children. Jose Menezes, or Joseph, died in 1972, Mercedes in 1983. I have combed the baptisms looking for Jose Menezes - his dob is 9/16/1900 - but did not find him. Mercedes is a bit more complicated as the date of birth I have for her is 1902, which we know was not true, but was stated to make her older so she could work. (this caused her a problem when she tried to get Social Security). I believe it was resolved as 1903, but her Massachusetts Death Index dob is 1904. I will have to check both years. The date is 5/28. I'm looking for any confirmation on these families... thank you! Kerry Sullivan -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Menezes genealogy, Sao Miguel
Kerry, Sounds like you have enough information to start. Sometimes the stated birth date was their baptism date. Sometimes they were off by a few days. Sometimes they were confused on the year, so look a couple of years ahead or behind the date. Also, Ribeira Grande has 2 churches. That is, if they are from Ribeira Grande proper. They could be saying Ribeira Grande here, but really be from a smaller freguesia. If I was from Honey Creek, Nebraska, I'd probably just say Omaha, because people outside of NE would have heard of Omaha more so than Honey Creek. You can verify the freguesia by finding your people on the Passaportes outbound from the Azores on the CCA. Good luck, Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Menezes genealogy, Sao Miguel
Hi all, New to list - my ggrandfather Jose da Costa Menezes was born 1900 in Ribeira Grande and emigrated to America between 1916 and 1918. Once in Massachusetts, he married his cousin, Maria das Merces. She was also from Ribeira Grande, born in 1903 or 1904. Her father was Jose da Costa. Her mother, I believe, was named Luzia Ledo. She arrived in New York in 1919 with her father (who had been in America for 12 years, the story handed down is that he returned to get his daughters after their mother died from the Spanish flu). The sisters were Maria Conceicao, Maria des Anjes, and Luzia. They left behind a brother, Angelo Costa Menezes. Waiting for them in Fall River was Jose da Costa's brother, Gabriel da Costa. Jose Menezes and Maria Merces, or Mercedes as we know her, were married in New Bedford in 1923. They moved to Cambridge, MA by 1924, where they had a number of children. Jose Menezes, or Joseph, died in 1972, Mercedes in 1983. I have combed the baptisms looking for Jose Menezes - his dob is 9/16/1900 - but did not find him. Mercedes is a bit more complicated as the date of birth I have for her is 1902, which we know was not true, but was stated to make her older so she could work. (this caused her a problem when she tried to get Social Security). I believe it was resolved as 1903, but her Massachusetts Death Index dob is 1904. I will have to check both years. The date is 5/28. I'm looking for any confirmation on these families... thank you! Kerry Sullivan -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
