Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Williams from Faial

2011-05-12 Thread E Sharp
1900 US Census
ED 1134 Lakeville MA
Frank Williams b. 1840 60 m. 25 years, b. Azores, parents b. Azores, farmer
Wife:  Mary Ann b. Jan 1847 53 2 children b. 2 ch. living, b. NH father b.
NH, mother b. ME
Nellie Frost, dau, b. July 1878 MA 21 m. 3 years, 2 ch. b. 2 ch. living
John S. Williams, son, b. June 1881 MA 18, single
Elizabeth M. frost gdau. b. Nov 1896 MA 3 y.o.
George F. Frost (it says gdau???) but listed as male,  b. Dec. 1899 MA
Edith M. Davis, servant, Edward Corlin boarder, (I love this next one) James
Dovins town pauper...

E




On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 10:09 AM, E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote:

 Cheri,

 Not sure of why repost...is she/he not on list?

 This info is on familysearch.org

 Marriage.

 Date of Marriage:  Nov. 11. 1875.  Mary A. Cook 30, 2nd marriage,  b.
 Brunswick, Me.  Her parents Newall Eduard (their sp) and Mary Ann. Groom:
 Frank Williams, 33, living in  Fairhaven, farmer,  b. Fayal, Western
 Islands, Joseph Francis and Antonia.  Married by Moses Howe, clergyman.
  There is picture of actual marriage record on familysearch site.

 Will try to find more.  Interesting there were a couple of Frank Williams
 in the area.

 E


 On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 Repost for Shervoy:

 The groom was Frank Williams, born in Fayal. The bride was Mary Ann
 Cook,  nee Edwards, born in England, moved to Maine, then to New Bedford
 MA.  Frank lived in Fairhaven, MA at the time of the marriage. His father
 was Joseph; his mother was Antonia. Her parents were Newell and Mary Ann
 Edwards. They were married on November 11, circa 1869-1876 in New Bedford.
 He was 33 and Mary Ann was 30. They both died in Lakevillle, MA in 1917.



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Williams from Faial

2011-05-12 Thread E Sharp
Cheri and Shervoy,

You are most likely correct, Frank did come over on a whaler.  You might try
the Whaling Museum in New Bedford next time you are in the area.  To try and
research Faial records looking for a Francis/Francisco b. abt. 1840 with
parents Joseph Francis and Antonia but without a parish is like looking for
a needle in a haystack.  Best bet - someone who has already researched this
family.  I will keep looking though to see if I can find a ship's manifest.
I found one I was recently looking for in 1860's.

Moses Howe, clergyman, New Bedford was already 80 years old in 1870 census,
so he was 85 when they married.  He had been a clergyman at Seaman's Bethel
1843-1858.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Williams from Faial

2011-05-12 Thread E Sharp
I thought this is him but it says he was from US???  There is more than 1
Frank Williams in the area and I think, of these, one was a mariner and one
was a farmer and one settled in Wellfleet (mariner) and one in Lakeville
(farmer).  Since several used the Williams surname could their surname have
been Wilhelm (I think Portuguese for William??? or some such variation???)

Frank Williams, 30, mariner, bark Evarista, sailing from Fayal, arriving
Boston July 5, 1866.

There is another, Frank Williams, 28, mariner,  who I think is same as above
sailing from Fayal on Barque Azor Oct. 1862 and it also listed from US.

I also found these Frank Williams:

Frank Williams, 33, sailing from Flores, Azores, farmer, arriving Boston
Aug. 27, 1870 aboard the brig Oriana.

Frank Williams, 30, laborer, sailing from Sao Miguel (St. Michael) arriving
Boston July 14, 1873 on bark Armizade.

PS:  I also found Frank and Mary Ann living in Lakeville in the 1880 census.

E


I know ages don't quite match but we all know how these can fluctuate.


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Williams from Faial

2011-05-12 Thread Cheri Mello
Shervoy is on the list.  But the postings from this person have 2 Re: in
them, so it breaks the thread.  They get caught in the queue so I need to
repost them.  It's always best to leave the subject alone, just hit reply,
and type away.

From Shervoy:
I looked at the Whaling Museum's site, and he was not listed among the crews
of the 3 trips the Kate Cory made to Faial. Therefore, I suspect that he
signed onto a different ship in Faial, and somewhere along the line, signed
onto the Kate Cory. He was on that ship when it was confiscated by the U.S.
Navy during the Civil War, and it was burned by the Confederate ship The
Alabama. The seamen were put ashore on the coast of Brazil.

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Williams from Faial

2011-05-11 Thread shevory
Thank you so very much; this is very helpful.  He signed on to the Brig Kate
Cory, a whaler, at an early age.  The ship was confiscated by the U.S. Navy
during the Civil War, burned by the Alabama, a Confederate ship, and the
seamen were put ashore on the coast of Brazil.  From there, he somehow got
to the United States, and eventually married a Civil War widow.  They were
married in New Bedford, Massachusetts.  Therefore, there is no parish to
explore.  

I am going to make a trip to New Bedford to look at old records to see if I
can decipher his parents' surnames.

Thank you again.

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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Williams from Faial

Fayal was the second largest port in the Azores. As such, it saw many
foreign ships, including whalers and fishing vessels that would often
stop to sign up crew replacements. So, the short answer to your
question is, yes, a native of the Azores can have the surname
Williams. Often surnames became remastered to make them sound more
Portuguese or more English. Major settlement of the Azores was, of
course, by Portuguese nobility, who were offered land and power to
colonize the newly discovered islands in the 15th century. Shortly
after they were joined by Flemish expatriates under an agreement by
the respective kings of Portugal and France. Owing to the history of
the islands, persons from Scotland, France, Italy, and Spain, were
also permitted to settle in the islands from time to time.

Re: GGF - Can you decipher the parents' surnames? the parish he was
married in?

On May 10, 11:23 pm, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:
 Repost for shevory at comcast.net

 I'm not sure where to send this inquiry, but maybe you can direct me. I
 signed up seeking information about my great-grandfather, Frank Williams
 from Fayal. I have not seen anything from anyone concerning Fayal. Also,
 could a native of the Azores have the surname Williams? That is part of
 the mystery. I have a copy of his marriage record but cannot make out some
 of the information. His father's name was Joseph something, and his mother
 was Antonia.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Williams from Faial

2011-05-11 Thread Cheri Mello
Shevory,

Maybe you should scan the record and send it to the list (attach it to your
email).

It's been many years, but if I remember correctly, Danielle Steel is a
quarter Portuguese.  She had someone come from England (surname Stone) and I
think the records in the Azores named the descendants Manuel Stone da Silva
(I made that upbut it was Portuguese first name, Stone, then Portuguese
last name).

I think it would be best to send the record to the list.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Williams from Faial

2011-05-11 Thread E Sharp
Give me the name of the bride and the name of the groom and I can probably
find their marriage record for you.

E

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 3:31 AM, shevory shev...@comcast.net wrote:

 Thank you so very much; this is very helpful.  He signed on to the Brig
 Kate
 Cory, a whaler, at an early age.  The ship was confiscated by the U.S. Navy
 during the Civil War, burned by the Alabama, a Confederate ship, and the
 seamen were put ashore on the coast of Brazil.  From there, he somehow got
 to the United States, and eventually married a Civil War widow.  They were
 married in New Bedford, Massachusetts.  Therefore, there is no parish to
 explore.

 I am going to make a trip to New Bedford to look at old records to see if I
 can decipher his parents' surnames.

 Thank you again.



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Williams from Faial

2011-05-11 Thread Kathy Cardoza
There is a query posted on the Azores GenWeb for Williams here:  
http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/queries2003.html#17

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On May 11, 2011, at 1:05 PM, E Sharp wrote:

 Give me the name of the bride and the name of the groom and I can probably 
 find their marriage record for you.
  
 E
 
 On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 3:31 AM, shevory shev...@comcast.net wrote:
 Thank you so very much; this is very helpful.  He signed on to the Brig Kate
 Cory, a whaler, at an early age.  The ship was confiscated by the U.S. Navy
 during the Civil War, burned by the Alabama, a Confederate ship, and the
 seamen were put ashore on the coast of Brazil.  From there, he somehow got
 to the United States, and eventually married a Civil War widow.  They were
 married in New Bedford, Massachusetts.  Therefore, there is no parish to
 explore.
 
 I am going to make a trip to New Bedford to look at old records to see if I
 can decipher his parents' surnames.
 
 Thank you again.
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Williams from Faial

2011-05-11 Thread E Sharp
Thank you, Kathy,

George Williams 35 mariner b. Fayal, W.I. (no parents listed) and Hannah
Higgins 25 married in Wellfleet MA Nov. 10, 1854 by George Denham,
Cleryman.  Actual record is listed on www.familysearch.org

This one will be difficult as no parents are listed on marriage record.  I
would try and see if you can get a copy of the form they filled out to get
the marriage license and hope it might have this info.  What info do you
have that he died ca 1857?

I went to the New Bedford Whalers List and there are 62 records for the name
George Williams listed around the 1840/50 timeframe

http://www.newbedford-ma.gov/Library/Whaling/Whaling.html


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On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Kathy Cardoza kmacard...@me.com wrote:

 There is a query posted on the Azores GenWeb for Williams here:
 http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/queries2003.html#17

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  On May 11, 2011, at 1:05 PM, E Sharp wrote:

  Give me the name of the bride and the name of the groom and I can
 probably find their marriage record for you.

 E

 On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 3:31 AM, shevory shev...@comcast.net wrote:

 Thank you so very much; this is very helpful.  He signed on to the Brig
 Kate
 Cory, a whaler, at an early age.  The ship was confiscated by the U.S.
 Navy
 during the Civil War, burned by the Alabama, a Confederate ship, and the
 seamen were put ashore on the coast of Brazil.  From there, he somehow got
 to the United States, and eventually married a Civil War widow.  They were
 married in New Bedford, Massachusetts.  Therefore, there is no parish to
 explore.

 I am going to make a trip to New Bedford to look at old records to see if
 I
 can decipher his parents' surnames.

 Thank you again.


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Williams from Faial

2011-05-11 Thread E Sharp
 I notice on Ancestry there is a George Williams and Hannah Higgins family
tree (Clark).  I found Hannah and her 2 sons on 1860 census.  I also found
George Williams in 1860 census b. Portugal living with another Williams
family in Wellfleet MA.  Did they separate or divorce?  I also found George
Williams in 1850 census living in a hotel in Wellfleet MA.

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