Re: Help with a GREP task
On Jul 3, 2022, at 1:43 PM, David Brostoff wrote:
> On Jul 3, 2022, at 7:26 AM, David Kelly wrote:
>>
>> Create an awk script file. Lets call it "script.awk" that looks like this:
>>
>> {
>> print $1 >> "col-1.txt"
>> print $2 >> "col-2.txt"
>> }
>
> Is creating an awk script file different from entering the above script in
> Terminal?
>
> If not, do I add "awk" before the leading curly bracket?
No, create a file exactly as shown above. 4 lines. Use a tab or a space or many
spaces, it doesn't matter.
The difference is by putting the script (awk commands) in a file we don't have
to figure out how to escape the newline between the two actions. That kind of
thing varies depending on what shell you are using in Terminal.
Also putting the script in a file lets you create very complex scripts.
macOS Monterey seems to come with every popular Unix shell: sh, csh, tcsh, zsh,
and bash. zsh seems to be the default now.
As I originally stated, you now invoke the script file with
"awk -f script.awk " with a trailing space then drag your input file to the
command line to finish.
-f tells awk to get its commands from the specified file rather than the
command line.
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Re: Help with a GREP task
On Jul 3, 2022, at 12:52 AM, David Brostoff wrote:
> On Jul 2, 2022, at 9:29 PM, David Kelly wrote:
>>
>> Type the command line and rather than type the input file name just drag the
>> file to the command line. Finder/Terminal will write the file's full path on
>> the command line.
>
> Thanks for the tip, but I must be doing something wrong.
>
> First I copy and paste this command:
>
> awk ‘{ print $1 >> “col-1.txt”
> print $2 >> “col-2.txt” }’ input.txt
>
> Then I drag the source file to the command line and press Enter, which
> produces this error message:
>
> awk: syntax error at source line 1
> context is
>>>> ? <<<
> missing }
> awk: bailing out at source line 1
>
> Two text files are produced, but the one named "col-1.txt" is blank and the
> "col-2.txt" has this line, repeated three times:
>
> }’ input.txt/Users/davidbrostoff/Desktop/Sample2010-2011.txt
Sorry about previously not testing it myself and trying to lead you down a
problematic path of bundling the awk script on a split command line. Some
things work in bash that don't work in csh or zsh.
This works no matter what shell:
Create an awk script file. Lets call it "script.awk" that looks like this:
{
print $1 >> "col-1.txt"
print $2 >> "col-2.txt"
}
If memory serves the leading tabs may not be necessary, but the above is
tested. The tab before first { is where one puts the line-match grep pattern
but in awk a blank matches all lines. For instance you could make the script
only split lines that contain numeric digits.
Then type "awk -f script.awk " with a trailing space then drag your file to the
command line.
Might want to delete or rename previous col-[12].txt because each invocation
will add new contents to existing files. If you run the script twice you will
get the 2nd run appended to the first.
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Re: Help with a GREP task
On Jul 2, 2022, at 9:26 PM, David Brostoff wrote: > On Jun 29, 2022, at 8:49 PM, Christopher Waterman > wrote: >> >> It breaks down like this: >> >> awk = The command; it takes two parameters. Param 1: The script. Param 2: A >> Path to the source file. > > Again sorry for the beginner question, but what format should I use for the > path if, for example, the file is on my Desktop? Type the command line and rather than type the input file name just drag the file to the command line. Finder/Terminal will write the file's full path on the command line. By default Terminal's current directory is your home directory, abbreviated ~ so that is where awk will write the output. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- This is the BBEdit Talk public discussion group. If you have a feature request or need technical support, please email "supp...@barebones.com" rather than posting here. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: <https://twitter.com/bbedit> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BBEdit Talk" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bbedit/F04FF855-B3BE-4AC2-9B54-47038EF9D095%40hiwaay.net.
Re: Help with a GREP task
On Jun 29, 2022, at 8:59 PM, David Brostoff wrote:
> I have a list of numbers in this format:
>
> 123 56
> 789 01
>
> How can I create two separate documents with 123 and 789 in one and 56 and 01
> in the other?
I don’t think that is a good grep task. It cries for awk.
In terminal.app it would be something like this:
awk ‘{ print $1 >> “col-1.txt”
print $2 >> “col-2.txt” }’ input.txt
Anyway, that is the idea. My awk is rusty.
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Re: BBEdit and Reminders app
On Dec 7, 2021, at 4:28 PM, Nestor Aguilera wrote: > For many years I have been using BBEdit for making lists of todos and > reminders in Mac. Now that I have an iPad, I wish I could have those notes > synched with it. Of course, Apple's Reminder.app could be used for that > purpose (via iCloud), but I wonder if there is another way of doing this, > perhaps with BBEdit on Mac and some other text editor on iPad. Notes.app isn’t a great editor but it magically syncs between all your iCloud machines. You could save the BBEdit file to iCloud/Documents then use the File app on iPad to read/edit (guessing it will use Pages.app) on the iPad but that’s a bit clumsy. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- This is the BBEdit Talk public discussion group. If you have a feature request or need technical support, please email "supp...@barebones.com" rather than posting here. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: <https://twitter.com/bbedit> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BBEdit Talk" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bbedit/C71644B4-F444-454E-8C56-23C68B731C62%40hiwaay.net.
Re: Cleaning up soft returns in database field content
On Sep 24, 2021, at 2:33 PM, Chris wrote: > Have you tried the command Text: Zap Gremlins ? But would one really wish to destroy soft returns in a data field? Presumably somebody put them there for a reason? And the question arises because the intake database isn’t recognizing them as soft returns? When transposing data from one database to another using text as an intermediary I don’t know enough about his process to know whether the hard returns (which he likes) are record separators or field separators. The soft returns would seem to be inside fields. So I’d say global search/replace with whatever the intake database recognizes as a soft return. Might not accept soft returns inside a field. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- This is the BBEdit Talk public discussion group. If you have a feature request or need technical support, please email "supp...@barebones.com" rather than posting here. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: <https://twitter.com/bbedit> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BBEdit Talk" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bbedit/255B9EB4-CC1A-4C3D-8AFA-D16478AB2491%40hiwaay.net.
Re: Stop adding ^M characters
On Apr 4, 2021, at 6:07 PM, Arthur Goldberg wrote: > According to `git diff`, control-M characters appeared at the ends of all > lines I inserted in a file I'm editing with BBEdit. See screenshot. > > How do I stop doing this? Original Apple/Mac convention was (Control-M) line endings. Unix used (Control-J) line endings. CP/M and Windows used line endings. BBEdit is pretty smart about continuing to use whatever it finds. Has a default for new files. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- This is the BBEdit Talk public discussion group. If you have a feature request or need technical support, please email "supp...@barebones.com" rather than posting here. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: <https://twitter.com/bbedit> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BBEdit Talk" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bbedit/98ED2474-F312-4C98-9760-B50496EE02C2%40hiwaay.net.
Re: Retrieving information from TextWrangler
On Jul 6, 2020, at 3:07 PM, Rich Siegel wrote: > On 7/6/20 at 3:50 PM, mpaller...@gmail.com (mpallerino) wrote: > >> I upgraded to Catalina and my TextWrangler went to BBEdit. I do/can I >> retrieve the information I had stored in TextWrangler > > When you start BBEdit for the first time, it will import your existing > TextWrangler settings and history, assuming certain conditions are satisfied > (the most important of which is that you have never used BBEdit on that > computer before, ever). Let me guess there might be one other thing: default app for Finder? If Finder does not open BBEdit on double-click of a TextWrangler document then on that document use Get Info (command-I) in Finder to set the default app, and click the “Change All..." button to fix all the other TextWrangler documents. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- This is the BBEdit Talk public discussion group. If you have a feature request or need technical support, please email "supp...@barebones.com" rather than posting here. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: <https://twitter.com/bbedit> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BBEdit Talk" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bbedit/742C9CBC-08B9-4752-B0B3-75AAE1C65C30%40hiwaay.net.
Re: Meta: mailing list tag in subject line
On Feb 15, 2019, at 7:55 AM, Nestor Aguilera wrote: > I have a filter in gmail redirecting any message from > "bbedit@googlegroups.com" to the mailbox/folder "BB" (and similarly for other > lists, actually they are on subfolders), so I would prefer no to have any > extra characters in the subject line, but I could live with those. > > Of course, you could make similar filters in Mac Mail. With many lists (including this one) "List-Unsubscribe" is a good field to sort on. Also "List-Id". Separates on-list from off-list replies. You may have to add those to Mail.app, I forget, has been so long when I would have done it if necessary. Recipient chooses not to use tools available, then it shouldn't be a burden on everyone else with edited and cluttered Subject: fields. But its curious one would choose to use a powerful editor such as BBEdit but not master email. It is bad enough with top-posters replying on top of previous messages resending what has already been seen, including multiple BBEdit list signatures appended at the bottom. Just plain sloppy. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- This is the BBEdit Talk public discussion group. If you have a feature request or need technical support, please email "supp...@barebones.com" rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: <https://www.twitter.com/bbedit> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BBEdit Talk" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/bbedit. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: [ANN] BBEdit Merchandise
On Dec 5, 2018, at 6:15 AM, Daniel Palmer wrote: > Are you guys planning to add stickers to the shop? Or coffee cups? A good coffee cup is an essential tool when editing. I currently use this one: https://www.fowllanguagestore.com/products/coffee-make-brain-work-gooder-mug -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- This is the BBEdit Talk public discussion group. If you have a feature request or need technical support, please email "supp...@barebones.com" rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: <https://www.twitter.com/bbedit> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BBEdit Talk" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/bbedit.
Re: Losing Preferences
On Wed Jan 10 2018 13:36:22 Marc Simpson wrote: > Considering an upgrade today—was this issue fixed in 10.13.2? For me, Mail.app has not been forgetting its preferences since 10.13.2. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- This is the BBEdit Talk public discussion group. If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email "supp...@barebones.com" rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: <http://www.twitter.com/bbedit> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BBEdit Talk" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/bbedit.
Re: Email Address From BBEdit List Crashes Mail App
On Oct 16, 2015, at 11:10 PM, WordWeaver777 <wordweaver...@gmail.com> wrote: > Let me start by saying that it is not my intention to start anything personal > here, and I hope that the person who owns this particular email address does > not take my comments as an attack on their person, because that is most > certainly not the case. However, for those of you who likewise use OS X's > default Mail app email client, I must ask you the following question: > > Does the following email address cause you any problems when you click on an > incoming message which contains this address? Since Yosemite Apple's Mail.app gets hung on IMAP servers on something I haven't identified. So bad I reverted to Mavericks. But have recently been running the El Capitan public beta and forwarding problem reports to Apple every day or two. Do not know how to reliably replicate the problem. Once Mail.app gets stuck it starts complaining at quit about not being able to move messages to trash. On launch previously read or deleted emails reappear as unread. The easiest way to tell if it is stuck is Window -> Activity. If anything is listed and not changing, its stuck. Should be blank when all is downloaded. Have found no way in Mail.app to clear the blockage. Installed Thunderbird and configured for same accounts. Once Thunderbird syncs the messages, Mail.app can once again read the same messages on the server. Tried to like Thunderbird but it has plenty of its own faults such as not remembering window sizes. But it does IMAP good and can fix whatever mess Mail.app creates without losing messages. Perhaps there is something about the address you cite causing my problem as well? Am sure if one address causes problems then others would too. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- This is the BBEdit Talk public discussion group. If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email "supp...@barebones.com" rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: <http://www.twitter.com/bbedit> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BBEdit Talk" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com.
Re: how to strip HTLM from word doc on mac?
On Aug 9, 2013, at 12:19 PM, SBD davie...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking for a way to strip all codes (I want plain text) from things I have copy/pasted into a word doc on my Mac. I understand this can be done by using Notepad on PCs, but I'm not able to figure this out via my new Mac. Any suggestions? Thanks! Don't know about Word but many applications have an Edit - Paste And Match Style function which strips styling from the clipboard's contents during paste. Or has already been suggested, copy into BBedit (or TextWrangler), then copy from BBedit back into Word. Oooh! I know! Open Terminal.app. Type cat file.txt. Paste. Type ^C (control-C). Merge file.txt into your Word document. :-) -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- This is the BBEdit Talk public discussion group. If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com.
Re: need to replace time value in different lines
On Jun 18, 2013, at 1:44 PM, Kaarle Kannelmäe kaa...@rgb.ee wrote: Hi all i have a problem i cannot solve myself.. i'm using Textwrangler and i need put new time values: 00:00 00:16 00:42 04:01 05:27 07:51 08:59 11:37 12:52 14:23 15:06 16:32 17:17 17:37 18:09 18:32 18:39 19:03 In the following code, replacing original time value: show8_caton/slide01.jpg time=00:00 / show8_caton/slide02.jpg time=00:25 / show8_caton/slide03.jpg time=01:15 / show8_caton/slide04.jpg time=01:57 / show8_caton/slide05.jpg time=03:21 / show8_caton/slide06.jpg time=05:48 / show8_caton/slide07.jpg time=07:27 / show8_caton/slide08.jpg time=08:22 / show8_caton/slide09.jpg time=10:43 / show8_caton/slide10.jpg time=12:39 / show8_caton/slide11.jpg time=14:35 / show8_caton/slide12.jpg time=17:06 / show8_caton/slide13.jpg time=18:14 / show8_caton/slide14.jpg time=19:14 / show8_caton/slide15.jpg time=20:07 / show8_caton/slide16.jpg time=20:31 / show8_caton/slide15.jpg time=20:34 / show8_caton/slide16.jpg time=21:30 / show8_caton/slide17.jpg time=22:53 / show8_caton/slide18.jpg time=25:13 / How to accomplish such a task? http://www.barebones.com/support/textwrangler/faqs.html#rectangle looks to be your answer. However above you have 18 values to put in 20 spots. Perhaps you should delete the (possibly) duplicate slide15 and slide16? -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- This is the BBEdit Talk public discussion group. If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com.
Re: BBEdit and OS X 10.9 Mavericks
On Jun 13, 2013, at 3:50 PM, Lorin Rivers lriv...@mosasaur.com wrote: I'm waiting till the Gooses rev comes out. I'm holding my breath in anticipation of the release after next. Whether it will be called 10.10 or 11.0 ... :-) You'd think when dropping the cat name convention they'd bump the major number, but they didn't. Quick, everyone! Name your cat Mavericks and post pictures online to cover for Tim's gaffe. :-) -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- This is the BBEdit Talk public discussion group. If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com.
Re: carriage returns
On Aug 17, 2012, at 1:16 PM, Jim Sheffer wrote: I took some advice and downloaded Synalyze to check the file in Hex format. Having been over ten years since opening a file in Hex mode (and even then not knowing what I was doing!) I was pleasantly surprised at how quickly I was able to figure out how to do a search and understand the results (Thanks to Patrick for the in-depth mini-tutorial on what to look for!). I suspect Patrick's mini-tutorial was created using the Hex Dump utility within BBedit. Synalyze is nice but not necessary. As strange as it sounds (and I don't have a clue yet as to how), the file was getting changed when either sent via email or opened on their end. They were indeed seeing duplicate carriage returns on their end (Even in a Hex editor) where on my end they were not there! Go figure! How are you sending the file from here to there? Email attachment? Zipped email attachment? Most zip utilities provide means for munging line endings. If for some reason one was used which automatically did what it thought was best then perhaps it wasn't best. If MIME types were used in email that indicated a text file originated from Mac then once again auto manglers may have been invoked. Sometimes filename extensions can invoke this behavior. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: carriage returns
On Aug 17, 2012, at 2:22 PM, Jim Sheffer wrote: If MIME types were used in email that indicated a text file originated from Mac then once again auto manglers may have been invoked. Sometimes filename extensions can invoke this behavior. Interesting. The strange part is, however, that ONLY the carriage returns were affected - everything else in the attachment is fine! Well, traditionally thats all that differs between Mac, Windows, and Unix text files. It suggests that whatever was doing it was deliberately doing it. I'd suggest using zip to compress the file before you send it and see what they get. Just right-click the file in Finder and about 1/3rd down in the popup is Compress yourfilename which make a .zip copy. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: carriage returns
On Aug 16, 2012, at 12:17 PM, Jim Sheffer wrote: So am I right to assume the L character is indeed a carriage return and that with only one showing at the end of each line in the file and no spaces between the lines, there can only be one carriage return for each line? Just for curiosity open Terminal.app and look at the questioned file using hexdump -C question.csv | more Of course that is very un-BBeditish so go to the bottom of the File menu where it says Hex Dump and use either Hex Dump File or Hex Dump Front Document to do the same as the above hexdump. This should answer your question as to what is where in no uncertain terms. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: carriage returns
On Aug 16, 2012, at 4:20 PM, Jim Sheffer wrote: David- - I ran the file via terminal through hexdump with no problem. Can you tell me what I'm looking for? What Patrick said. :-) 0x0d is CR and 0x0a is LF, and hexdump knows nothing of line endings so what it dumps is exactly what is there. The Hex Dump utility built into BBedit under the File menu is essentially the same thing as hexdump -C but with easier knobs to turn in a GUI. The output is a BBedit text file which is a bit easier to search and move around in than piping it into /usr/bin/more. On PC there is a freeware utility called HxD which I make a lot of use of. It can do binary compares and jump to the point the files differ. Also useful for trimming binary files. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: grep pattern for NOT capturing a zip code at the first of a line?
On Jul 8, 2012, at 6:59 AM, Mosby wrote: I have data that looks similar to this... 75092 Sherman 1811 Whao 75090 Sherman . at. 8am 3244 Dripping Springs Rd 903-647-3292 veryt 75092 Sherman 3204 M 75409 AnnaTooehold item There are tabs after the zip codes. I want to skip the zip codes and only find the lines that do not begin with a zip code. Once those lines are located I want to remove the return at the end of the previous line and replace it with a space. Every GREP pattern I have tried to use always finds the zip code as well. There are tabs only after the zip codes, no tabs are found on the other lines. I think you want to search for \r([^\t\r]*\r) and replace with \1 without the quotes, but with the leading space. The search is for a line which does not have a tab or return in it but the find includes the previous line's return so that you can replace without that return. A possible problem is the above doesn't merge multiple lines which seems to be necessary in the provided example. So, just run it twice. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Retina display compatability
On Jul 6, 2012, at 10:50 AM, Fletcher Sandbeck wrote: On Jul 6, 2012, at 2:42 AM, StarlightNo1 wrote: I am working with BBEdit everyday and it's quite unworkable on a MBPR like this, so why no hot fix? You could open a dialog with Apple and ask them why existing applications require a rewrite to work on your new machine. Seems like a hardware bug to me. The advantage of a fix from Apple is that other apps relying on the same API would be fixed as well. Ditto. PowerPC ran 68k quite well. Intel ran PowerPC quite well. We have every reason to expect Retina to run ATSUI every bit as well as Apple has performed in the past. Its sad this has become a problem for BBEdit but its not as if they could have coded for (didn't yet exist) Retina when they had to move from QuickDraw to ATSUI. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Web hosting recommendations
On May 1, 2012, at 1:31 PM, bobembry wrote: I'm looking for a new web host. Anybody have suggestions Depends on what you want to do. You currently have a gmail account. Have you considered the free version of Google Apps? Its not the easiest place to find as Google would much rather sell you a $50/mo account but for many the free 10 user version is Just Right. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: New to coding, should I buy BBEdit?
On Mar 12, 2012, at 7:51 AM, Janec3 wrote: I am new to coding, and can do HTML well, and am learning CSS. I do it all by hand, tried Dreamweaver, its OK, but much prefer just using my TextEdit and doing it myself. Also I use a couple of templates which a classmate has helped me with. I used BBEdit for many years before my first use on HTML. My primary use is still plain old C. My question is, should I buy BBEdit and learn it? Will it be any better than hand coding for speed? Perhaps not for writing faster code, but for writing code faster. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: New to coding, should I buy BBEdit?
On Mar 12, 2012, at 9:54 AM, Bucky Junior wrote: On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 8:17 AM, David Kelly dke...@hiwaay.net wrote: Perhaps not for writing faster code, but for writing code faster. This is a great line. I'm going to have to remember it. As great as the line is, I find that I do write what I think is faster code with BBEdit because it is so much easier to write standards compliant code. My key point is that doesn't really know how to create code structures, that you have to know what you are doing. Its not a GUI website builder although it has a GUI and can be used to build websites. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Is there a keyboard shortcut to flip between open documents?
On Nov 7, 2011, at 9:21 PM, Christopher Stone wrote: On Nov 07, 2011, at 17:25, Eric Mueller wrote: Is there a keyboard shortcut to flip between open documents? __ Hey Eric, Sure. Cmd-Opt-[ and Cmd-Opt-] What about Cmd-~ (thats a tilde)? Thats the generic Apple next-window-in-app key. Cmd-Tab moves between applications. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Files won't open
On Oct 21, 2011, at 6:43 PM, Doug McNutt wrote: bbedit will not process files that have mixed line ends. It won't even allow you to repair such files. No way! BBEdit is my FIRST CHOICE for repairing such files. Do it all the time. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Off The Mark
I predict a bit of extra traffic at the Bare Bones site today: http://www.gocomics.com/offthemark/2011/10/12 -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Can someone explain ctags to me?
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 11:08:05AM -0700, ascarter wrote: No you shouldn't need to restart BBEdit. Do you see a tags file in the root of your project? Are you running in project mode in BBEdit? You can also open the tags file (it's just text) and see that it has your symbols in it. Its easy to miss the dot on the end but the command is bbedit --maketags . Or specify another directory. If you don't list the dot then bbedit silently does nothing. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Can someone explain ctags to me?
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 05:10:47PM -0400, Fran?ois Schiettecatte wrote: Not at my end, it created the tags file without a dot at the end of the command, it was silent though, maybe a verbose mode... So it does. Didn't see the tags file the first time but duped the directory, nuked the tags file, and ran it again which produced a new tags file. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: C++
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 01:45:46PM +0200, Maarten Sneep wrote: The fact that to C++ code is simple doesn't matter. #! supports scripts: text files that start with #! and follow on with an interpreter for the rest of the script. This tells BBEdit which tool to use to run the script. Compiled programs work differently, and cannot be placed in #!. Well, close. #! is Unix convention for signaling the path to an interpreter. If one happens to have a c++ interpreter, then so be it. I don't know, there may well be a command line syntax to g++ instructing it to compile and run the remainder of the file and discard the generated intermediate and final executable after. Or as you say a script wrapper could be created to do just that: Create a wrapper script around the tool, and run it from there, just like any other tool. That assumes the second use case. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: No authenticated open/save in the App Store version
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 10:01:10PM -0700, crag wrote: And that's my point. That link (or better) that FAQ should be on the App store. It didn't occur to me that the versions would be different. You think I spend my time learning the ins and outs of App Store policy? I trusted Bare Bones to deal with that. And let me know. It would be nice for there to be a universal way for the App Store to indicate the App Store version of a product is restricted in ways that the full product is not. But that would be expecting the App Store to handicap themselves. Yesterday was the first time in perhaps 10 years of BBEdit that I remember having need of authenticated read/write. OTOH I often find myself in Terminal.app and enjoy the ability to launch BBEdit directly from the command line. If already there, I find it easier to launch from command line than to drag file icon to BBEdit or right-click to select BBEdit rather than default .html app (Safari). Am often in Terminal.app because I'm still most comfortable running svn from there. Had placed a couple of files in my shared Public/Drop Box (not to be confused with Dropbox.app) from a WinXP machine. BBEdit said I didn't have full read/write privileges so I let it override with my password. Knowing BBEdit pockets a bit more when purchased direct, I updated direct. Always do similar with businesses I consider to be my friend, use cash or check rather than credit card. But sometimes a small business would rather credit card than cash so as to not have to make a trip to the bank that evening for only one cash transaction that day. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: source code formatting
On Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 10:07:53AM -0700, Rick Yentzer wrote: Bump on this one. Is there a way to format javascript code? Python? PHP? Is not inteded for anything but C, but what does /usr/bin/indent or /Developer/usr/bin/indent do to your Java? -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: What's the BBEdit Sales Pitch?
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 04:09:05PM +0100, John Delacour wrote: At 20:49 -0700 27/07/2011, Brett Kelly wrote: If somebody asked me why I use vim, I'd tell them it's because you can configure it to do just about anything you want, you never have to touch the mouse and there is a vibrant, active developer community surrounding it that has built all manner of customizations for it. That's one of the main reasons I use BBEdit, and I'd bet that if you can do something one way in vim, you could do it that way and a dozen others in BBEdit, Can we use BBEdit to compose email in Mail.app? :-) I use mutt for much of my email in no small part because I can also use vim for composition. Composed in vim, sent with mutt, via ssh and Postfix, using Terminal.app. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Per document tab widths
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:04:32PM -0600, Doug McNutt wrote: Just in case anyone at Bare Bones cares: While you're making tab width adjustable on a per file basis it would really be great if you could arrange for tab stops as in a real typewriter. I am continually frustrated with columnar data that demands a wide column on the left side - full names for example - followed by a couple of small width columns like date and $. Multiple tab characters cannot be used because the final destination of the file won't accept them. The alternative is a full fledged spreadsheet but I really don't need that just to look at, yeah and modify, the data. Sounds as if you are asking to further blur the difference between a text editor and a word processor. Am not sure if Nisus still behaves the way it originally did, but it was a word processor that left the data fork as pure text while putting all formatting metadata in the resource fork. Originators of QUED/M, which for me was replaced by BBEdit. Looks like QUED/M is gone: http://www.nisus.com/ -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: How to sync BBEdit to Dropbox?
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 09:50:36AM -0700, Kat wrote: I keep reading that you can do this, but I see no option in the prefs. Just what is it about BBEdit you wish to sync? All you have to do is edit a file in your Dropbox folder for Dropbox to mirror that on all machines you have logged on to that Dropbox account. I don't see where BBEdit has to do anything special warranting an option in preferences. But perhaps I don't understand what you are trying to accomplish. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: BBEdit 10 cost
On Jul 19, 2011, at 5:34 PM, Warren Michelsen wrote: Ummm, here's a question... The BBE license I last recall reading permitted two copies of BBEdit to be installed. Back when I ran my own server, I had BBE installed both on it and my workstation. That made BBE quite a bargain. We could all go and read our license files and find out but that might cut the thread short. :-) IIRC the license was for 1 machine at a time no matter how many you have. A year or two or so ago one user popped up here (probably on the other list server) and was unhappy that the application was actually checking for another copy of itself running on the network as he wanted to edit on two Macs at the same time. Through the app store, isn't the number of Macs that can run a MAS app pretty substantial, in many cases making it an even better bargain? On most of my Macs, I run the free TextWrangler. I have BBE only on my personal workstation. If I but the MAS BBE, I can then install the full BBE on those Macs still wrangling text, correct? (These Macs are all in my home.) Talk about a bargain! Yup, put an end to iLife Family Pack! Heck, all I wanted was iPhoto anyway. But I have a related question: Is same price to buy a new license as to upgrade an old. So what is the advantage of upgrade between now and October when the new license's discount goes away? For instance some are already griping that 10 is different than 9. If I upgrade 9 to 10 can I still use 9 if I wish? If I buy 10 does it somehow interfere with my license to 9 or can I run both as I wish, possibly at the same time? As for editing of privileged files, thats not much of an issue for me. However I often invoke BBEdit from the command line as much easier than going to Finder to find my place to double-click the file. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: BBEdit 10 cost
On Jul 19, 2011, at 8:29 PM, Steve Kalkwarf wrote: There is nothing about BBEdit 10 that precludes you from also running 9, if you wish to. In fact, during the development cycle for 10, there were several instances where running 9 was a requirement! Wouldn't it be *awful* if the BBEdit developers had to use the XCode editor to write BBEdit? :-) Then again I suspect the developers might not have to deal with the serial number licensing key for the copy immediately under their debugger. Your reply doesn't fully confirm my question: Using my 9.6.x S/N to purchase an update/upgrade returns a S/N which enables version 10.x but does not disable 9.6.x? So that purchasing new vs upgrade is exactly the same but for the accounting trail linking the latest to all my past versions? Would expect this to be the case because Bare Bones has always been quite reasonable and rational in the past. If there are things in 9 that make you prefer it over 10, please let us know what they are. We may not be able to address them and still move the product forward, but we'll certainly take a look. It was more of a philosophical question. Have had other applications for which an upgrade required abandoning the prior version and sometimes something happens that having the older version would have been useful. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: BBEdit 10 cost
On Jul 19, 2011, at 9:28 PM, LuKreme wrote: Unfortunately Lion has not yet been released. Is it July yet? Apple announced this morning Lion would be available tomorrow. I thought last week was too early. When Apple says July and has a quarterly financial report on July 19, there is no way they are going to release a new OS before then. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: BBEdit 10 cost
On Jul 19, 2011, at 11:31 PM, LuKreme wrote: I thought last week was too early. When Apple says July and has a quarterly financial report on July 19, there is no way they are going to release a new OS before then. Actually, the rumor is that it was scheduled for release last week, but there was a last minute fix pushed through for something which delayed it a week. If the build number hasn’t been updated there will be a minor software update available right away. Dunno if that is at all true. The other rumor is it was delayed a week do to issue with the MacAppStore. I think I'll start a rumor that Steve Jobs seeded a suspected mole with last week's release date just to see if it leaked. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Need Version Management System Recommendations
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 02:28:32AM -0700, Dave Fitch wrote: Does anyone know where a version control beginner can find a good how- to for Subversion? I've had a copy for a while and am sort-of using it, but I feel like I've not really got a clue what I am doing. I've gone through the online tutorials/help but still don't feel that confident. Believe this downloadable book is the definitive reference: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ Its good that you are paying attention enough to question how you are using it. There are a few things you could do to build your confidence. I suggest making a new directory outside of your current working files and checkout another copy of your project just to learn how before disaster strikes and you have to learn how under the gun. Then revert one of your files to an older version. This only changes your working copy unless you commit. Another good thing to do would be svnadmin dump. Make a dump of your project repository. Restore that dump somewhere else. And repeat the above checkout from the restored depository to another temporary working folder. Subversion properties are the final thing I suggest for your initial study. svn:ignore is probably my most used property. Tell it to ignore .bak, .o, etc. svn:eol-style may be important if your files bounce back and forth between Unix, Mac, and Windows. Mandatory BBEdit content: The good news is that BBEdit fixes mangled EOL easier than most anything else. Would wish for the ability to preserve Apple type/creator property in svn. I have some ECAD files that have DOS-style file extensions but that isn't enough to fully qualify the files to the ECAD application so I added a FixIt.sh script to my working files which uses SetFile(1) to pound proper creator and type into the files. Is only needed on checkout, not update or commit. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Need Version Management System Recommendations
On Jul 13, 2011, at 12:08 AM, Steve deRosier wrote: Wrong. Subversion's file:// access method goes straight to it. The worst of this is the tendency of Windows people to put the repository on a shared file server with multiple users using the file:// method on the same repository at the same time. Not wrong at all. CVS and RCS have the same thing, you can make your server be some directory somewhere else on your local disk. Which I pointed out actually. You said to the effect one must set up a server no matter its only you and your laptop. Suspect you are confused with the popularity of using WEBDAV with svn. This is all it takes (without WEBDAV): mkdir testproject cd testproject/ svnadmin create /Users/dkelly/SVNROOT touch testfile.c svn import file:///Users/dkelly/SVNROOT/test -m New Project It doesn't mater where the server is. CVS, SVN and Perforce are all client-server designs. Period. Which, if you'll notice, you acknowledge the weakness of getting around the client-server design of SVN by directly accessing via the file:// access method on shared Windows discs (CVS has a similar bad history with people trying to put it on NFS mounts BTW). Client-server is a *strength* not a weakness, it allows a surrogate process to manage access rights between multiple users. But contrary to your claims requires no additional effort for single-user use. A single user would never know subversion spawned other processes without looking hard. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Need Version Management System Recommendations
On Jul 12, 2011, at 9:51 PM, Rich Siegel wrote: I would cross CVS off the list unless you already have a heavy investment in it; it's been long surpassed by Subversion (svn). Perforce is a good SCM but probably requires more setup and management than would be appropriate for a one-person team. I've found svn pretty easy to set up and manage, and there's good client support - BBEdit works well with it, as does Cornerstone (a GUI client). Git is very popular with the youth kids, but I've never used it and thus have no opinion. Of the ones you've named, I'd lean toward Subversion. Seconded. Plus svn is already on your Mac. Or perhaps its in Xcode, I don't remember. Perhaps Xcode has svn integration? When I'm editing in BBedit I'll use BBedit to commit but not everything I put in svn is a BBedit text file. I'm perfectly happy to jump into Terminal.app and cvs commit composing my commit comment in vim. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Need Version Management System Recommendations
On Jul 12, 2011, at 9:52 PM, LuKreme wrote: On Jul 12, 2011, at 20:34, Jack Stewart ja...@amug.org wrote: Does anyone know of something simple that is robust and works well? They all work well. I think for starting now, git is the best option. Not only does it work well, in has a fairly simple and direct set of commands. And it is quickly becoming the most popular VCS out there. If you're going to do something, even for home use, you might as well use a tool that might be useful other times. Popular is a terrible criteria for selection. Once Upon A Time one could say the same thing for the disaster known as Microsoft Source Safe. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Need Version Management System Recommendations
On Jul 12, 2011, at 10:25 PM, Steve deRosier wrote: I've used CVS, SVN, Perforce and Git extensively. Git is by far the best one, especially since you're not interested in setting up and running a server. The other three require a server (even if that server is actually the same laptop you're working on). Wrong. Subversion's file:// access method goes straight to it. The worst of this is the tendency of Windows people to put the repository on a shared file server with multiple users using the file:// method on the same repository at the same time. I prefer svn+ssh:// which uses ssh to remotely launch svnserver to do the work and then shut down. No special configuration is needed. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Why does this group expose our private email addresses?
On Jun 26, 2011, at 2:45 PM, LuKreme wrote: the author's private email address. Moderators, please fix this! Not speaking for the moderators, but speaking as someone who is on a LOT of mailing lists, I can say that I would unsubscribe if this happened. I do not subscribe to any lists that obfuscate the sender's email, I have never subscribed to a mailing list that obfuscates the sender's email, and I would never subscribe to a list that obfuscates the sender's email. Seconded. List/groups/forums where identity is hidden/anonymized/obfuscated only attract undesirables who believe they can act badly without repercussions. Just look at what has happened to usenet where one can post without a legit email address. Not to mention the ability to contact the writer directly off-list. Many lists default reply-to to the original sender. In some ways I appreciate this for keeping stupid people from replying to list. At the same time most places I've seen it implemented were trying to protect the stupid from accidentally saying private things on-list. If I were coding a new email list server then anonymizing is one feature I would never add. Several I would add, some which are available in existing list servers. One feature I've seen automatically rejects postings that have a ratio of too much quoted content to new content. Along the same concept I would also reject top-posts. Words that were said first belong first, they prepare the reader for the following new content. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Deliberately hijacked thread, Webmaster
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:03:07AM -0700, Steve deRosier wrote: Perhaps the orgional poster wasn't as mild as he could've been. I'm sure he was just trying to help out. All that's being said is that when starting a new topic, please create a new email instead of trying to start it by hitting a reply button and wiping out the text/subject. If that's what you did, great, if not well you learned something new. Is certain he didn't use New, but used Reply, else the hidden threading headers could not have been included. Am not certain he learned anything. Proof is his, But it looked like this to me reply. I don't remember what the command is in Eudora to view full headers but its Command-U in several others. Next wish is that we could do something about top-post-no-trim replies ... -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Mac App Store for BBEdit?
On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 12:46:12PM -0700, LuKreme wrote: Also, the App Store has no way to link a pervious purchase to an app. So, for example, if BBEdit is in the App Store it will show up in my App Store view as a purchased app, but I will not get update information or be able to update it via the App Store without repurchasing BBEdit. Really? On my machines App Store.app has no trouble indicating the status of BBEdit is installed no matter my purchase of BBEdit long predates the App Store. Same is also true for iWork, but thats less surprising. It would be nice if there was some way to purchase an upgrade to BBEdit from the App Store so that they were linked, but if that happens I expect it will be a while down the road (and I'm still on BBEdit 8, so I am due to pay for an upgrade sometime anyway). Well, if you are on 8 then no wonder the App Store doesn't recognize that you are a BBEdit user. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: comparing directories
On Dec 19, 2010, at 6:25 AM, Patrick Proniewski wrote: Hi all, I'm subscribed to the Digest, I'm going to reply to every one of you here. David Kelly dke...@hiwaay.net Dec 18 06:40AM -0600 ^ svn status from the command line will tell you what files are different vs the specified version in the repository. I know that, but my working copy is in sync with my repository, that's not the issue. The problem is my production files are not always in sync with my SVN repository (in general, they are newer). Then commit the production files to the repository. Guess I don't understand your question as I think svn does everything you are asking. Just svn commit the master working files from one server then for each server svn update and only those files which are different will be updated. I'm not using SVN to maintain production file `in situ`. If you heard what I've been saying between the lines, you *should*. Let svn be your remote file sync mechanism. Files exist at 3 different places: in production (on the server), in the repository, and in my working copy. When I'm working on a server, I make changes in various files, or create new ones, I wait few hours or few days to make sure everything works fine, then I don't always remember what files have changed. If the files were under svn then status, diff, or commit, will tell you which ones have been changed since the last commit. Comparing manually the production directory tree and the working copy is a very painful and long process. I want to make that automatic. Svn will automate that. You need to study the use of forks. Thinking you need a beta fork to run in parallel to your head working copy which will be very much like the difference between FreeBDD -CURRENT and -STABLE. Perhaps each server has a customized version of the config files? Then there is another fork. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: comparing directories
On Dec 19, 2010, at 9:29 AM, Rich Siegel wrote: At this exact moment, your best bet is probably to use something like ExpanDrive to mount your remote server via ssh as a file system; then you can use Find Differences to compare your local directory with the server. Do note that MacFUSE+ssh (of which ExpanDrive is one implementation) will perform very slowly; but for this purpose it should serve. NFS on FreeBSD works well with MacOS. Shares a lot of the same code. However, I grimace at even suggesting an NFS export from a public web server over the internet without an encrypted VPN tunnel. Which brings us back to rsync which is a purpose made remote file compare and copy utility. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: comparing directories
On Dec 18, 2010, at 3:22 AM, Patrick Proniewski wrote: Hi all, Short story: Is there a nice way to compare files from a remote directory tree with files from a local directory tree? Long story: I manage my config files for 2 FreeBSD servers using SVN. I have a repository somewhere, a local working copy, and 2 remote servers. Unfortunately it happens quite often that I'm tweaking various config files on a remote server, and have no time for an immediate SVN commit. So I need a way to synchronize production files with working copy files, easily. I can't do it manually, there are 280 files, growing. A simple compare server01:/etc with the local copy would be so great! svn status from the command line will tell you what files are different vs the specified version in the repository. Guess I don't understand your question as I think svn does everything you are asking. Just svn commit the master working files from one server then for each server svn update and only those files which are different will be updated. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: comparing directories
On Dec 18, 2010, at 12:10 PM, LuKreme wrote: Long story: I manage my config files for 2 FreeBSD servers using SVN. I have a repository somewhere, a local working copy, and 2 remote servers. Unfortunately it happens quite often that I'm tweaking various config files on a remote server, and have no time for an immediate SVN commit. So I need a way to synchronize production files with working copy files, easily. I can't do it manually, there are 280 files, growing. A simple compare server01:/etc with the local copy would be so great! Um… I think one of the advantages of Git is making this type of thing much more transparent. I'm sure it's possible with SVN, but that really doesn't have anything to do with BBEdit. Or am I missing something? I think the O.P. is missing something when for some reason there is time to post an incomplete question to a mailing list but for some reason there isn't time to do an svn commit. After which an svn update on the other server would put an end to the issue. There isn't anything in this scenario favoring git. There is one master copy. One person doing the changes. Isn't even anything requiring svn. Svn is good for keeping an archive of changes, and its good for simultaneously making different changes on different machines then reconciling the two differing edits. But if you have a collection of files on one machine that you wish to be identical on another then rsync(1) is your friend. Its included in MacOS X (or Xcode). Have to install it from /usr/ports/net/rsync on FreeBSD. Rsync is smart enough not to blindly copy every file, only changed files, and then only the changed portions. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Getting started with Subversion
On Thu, Dec 09, 2010 at 09:34:56AM -0800, Steve deRosier wrote: My #1 reason to use Git is the fact that the repo is in your local workspace. Every other system you have to be connected to the network in order to do simple things like reading the commit logs, diffing versions, etc. Wrong. Neither CVS nor SVN work that way. The repository can be local or remote. Locally one can access the repository files directly or indirectly through a server app. Once you have defined the repository location (and method) for a project that information sticks in the project. One can freely jump between projects which use different repositories. One of the biggest mistakes made in Microsoft environments is to put the repository on a shared filesystem with multiple users accessing via direct file methods. With possibly different apps simultaneously modifying the repository one is asking for trouble, and will get it. MacOS X comes with SVN preinstalled. Or maybe its in Xcode, don't know where it comes from. Also comes with ssh. Its a minor hassle to set up ssh for users but once done svn has no trouble using ssh for remote access. Forks are clumsy in SVN, but not all that difficult. You have to arrange folders for each branch of the fork. I still use cvs on some projects simply because the project has always been in cvs and has no pressing reason to change. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Windows text editor
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 01:07:30PM -0600, Doug Pinkerton wrote: Text editor. Highly capable with grep. No markup required. gvim If you like it then observe Apple installs the non-GUI version in /usr/bin/vim. This email was composed in vim, sent with mutt. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: cvs from BBEdit
On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 01:22:16AM -0700, Ptarmigan wrote: David: thanks for the checkout syntax: not sure how to adapt it to idisk. If anyone has an idea could they pass it on? Here's a stab based on David's syntax wh I note leaves the login details out - presumably coz the idisk wld be already mounted ... (?) If iDisk is already mounted then do a Get Info and look at the Where: value. Use that to compose a file path. Easiest to test in Terminal.app by typing cd /path where /path is the fully specified path to your CVS repository. cvs -d :ext:remote.memobile.com:/Documents/project_cvs_root checkout project In the above case my remote repository is not mounted but accessed via ssh. Not shown were the particulars for authentication for ssh between here and there. I think you would drop the :ext:remote.memobile.com: stuff. No matter the iDisk is remote the remoteness is already dealt with in mounting it as a local filesystem. As a general rule this is a poor way of dealing with a CVS repository if more than one person might be accessing it as everyone has to have 100% authorization to do anything to it. Sadly this is a common access method with Windows users. Its Client-Filesystem networking and not Client-Server. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: cvs from BBEdit
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 01:51:46PM -0700, Ptarmigan wrote: hi Does anyone know how to get BBEdit to import a web project's folder contents to idisk using in-built CVS ? BBEdit CVS works fine w my local repository. I have set the CVSROOT variable locally. I'm not sure that initial set up can be done in BBEdit so I followed instructions and did it in Terminal. From a bit of googling, it looks like one has to override the locally set CVSROOT using the -d option. I haven't been able to import to idisk using the command line or BBEdit. I would welcome some pointers. I don't use iDisk but do have a project under CVS on a remote host that works with BBEdit. I have CVS_SSH set in my tcsh to CVS_RSH=ssh This checks out a copy. Once that is done BBEdit doesn't have any problems using it. cvs -d :ext:remote.host.here.com:/home/dkelly/project_cvs_root checkout project . -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Dual install of BBEdit?
On May 14, 2010, at 1:59 AM, LuKreme wrote: I'm interested in checking out BBEdit 9.5 (currently I have 8.x), but I want to keep BBEdit 8.7.2 installed so I can compare the two versions. Also, since I'm not sure that I am going to take the plunge and upgrade, I don't want to muck anything up in my 8.7.2 install. Is it possible to install the 9.5 demo so that it does not overwrite or update any of the 8.7.2 files? Can I run both versions at the same time? My guess is yes but the only risk is whether the preferences files are the same, and how BBedit behaves if two instances have the same plist file open at the same time? I suppose in the worst case I could run 8.7.2 on another machine and use screen sharing to compare, but that's less than ideal. Back up Library/Preferences/com.barebones* and give it a try. BBEdit doesn't have to run out of the Applications folder. I suggest first time you run 9.5 that you not let it install the command line tool until you decide its a keeper. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group.
Re: BBEdit 9.5
On Apr 28, 2010, at 7:19 AM, Emily wrote: I am a long-time user of BBEdit, and I am very disappointed that 9.5 is not compatible with Tiger. Not only that, the new versions no longer support MacOS 9. :-) What Bare Bones is doing makes perfect sense to me. If you do not update the OS then why should you update the applications? The old BBEdit still works, so use it. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group.
Re: BBEdit 9.5
On Apr 27, 10:24 am, Rich Siegel sie...@barebones.com wrote:
Good { morning, afternoon, evening },
We are pleased to announce the release and immediate
availability of BBEdit 9.5. This is a free upgrade for anyone
using 9.0 through 9.3.1, and includes a number of new features,
refinements to existing features, and fixes for reported
problems. The high points of this new version are:
Perhaps its my fault but as a long time BBedit user for some reason I
had not bothered to install on my original generation MacBook Pro
until this past Saturday. Entered my serial number and 9.1-ish was
happy. Pretty sure it was properly listed in the License dialog box.
Then updated itself to 9.3.1. And an hour or so ago when I saw this
announcement let it update to 9.5.
Then a few moments ago it quit, announcing the end of my free demo. On
a machine which has never had BBedit installed until 3 days ago. MacOS
10.6.3. My desktop is not running and isn't on the same network as my
laptop is now connected.
On relaunch I was allowed to select demo mode. Currently says I have
30 days left. Good enough, I'll have access to my receipt tomorrow.
Am thinking there is a good possibility something is amiss in the
license code for 9.5.
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Re: Using Dropbox with BBedit?
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 10:58:22AM -0700, Barry Parr wrote: I'm using BBedit on several different systems and I'd like my changes to my Preferences and Clippings to follow me. I'm already using Dropbox. Is it possible to store my preferences, clippings, or any other shared setup information in dropbox, rather than my Mac's library folder? If any of that is stored in the resource fork then Dropbox won't. Safari used to put the interesting parts of a .webloc file in the resource fork, which was a head scratcher because about half the .webloc files I had worked, half did not. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group.
Re: BBEdit Adds Lines to TCL script
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 02:06:55PM -0800, Keith wrote: I have been using BBEDIT to create a TCL/TK script and I edited under windows linux and saved it to disk. I have now copied the new script back to Mac OS X SL and their are new lines or line feeds added to the script You don't say how you copied from Linux to Windows to Mac. That is where I suspect the extra junk appeared. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group.
Re: [ANN] BBEdit 9.3.1 Update available
On Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 10:25:33AM -0600, Brian Frick wrote: Yup, worked for me -- and I'm in Madison myself! Works from Madison, AL. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group.
Re: Big files
On Oct 7, 2009, at 4:13 PM, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: At 08:24 -0400 on 10/07/2009, Kerri Hicks wrote about Re: Big files: To split it, go to the command line, and type split -b384m filename.sql Is split smart enough to split on a line basis (so that the content of a line is preserved in one file as opposed to being part in one file and the rest in the other)? Each line in a .sql file an independent command so this should not cause problems after a split (except for the need to run the files in order so the state is preserved). The example shown will not intentionally split at a line. Then again if you are editing the split files you can put that broken line back together manually. Or as Patrick suggested use the line count mode rather than the byte count mode of split. When one has finished in bbedit then cat filename.sql.* filename.sql in Terminal.app should put the parts back together. In Unix shells results from filename expansion as shown return in sorted alphabetic order. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: BBEDIT for Windoze
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 06:58:31AM -0700, john_burgess wrote: I just got a new job and they gave me a Dell (ARRGH!) Until I can get a Mac, is there ANY equivalent to BBEDIT for windows XP? I want svn access (bbdiff, etc), sftp file access, multiple windows, all the wonderful regex searching, . . . Install TortoiseSVN (http://tortoisesvn.net/downloads) and Vim (http://www.vim.org/) IIRC Tortoise comes with idiff and merge tools but WinMerge is a freebie that I have found to be more useful. WinMerge knows Tortoise and will ask during installation whether you want to use WinMerge in place of TortoiseMerge from within Tortoise. One other essential Windows tool is HxD, a hex editor and binary compare tool: http://mh-nexus.de/en/hxd/ HxD is one I would like to see on Mac. 0xED is as close as I have found: http://www.suavetech.com/0xed/0xed.html MacOS comes with vim without the gvim graphic support complied. No matter that I have BBEdit, and TextWrangler on some machines, I still spend a good amount of time with vim on non-Mac Unix systems and can often do something in vim faster than with BBEdit. So I also install GVim on Windows systems but often have to close my eyes and run it keyboard style as I find the GUI confusing. This email was composed in vim launched from mutt via ssh login. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a specific feature request or would like to report a suspected (or confirmed) problem with the software, please email to supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: size limit for text files ?
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 09:44:45AM -0600, Doug McNutt wrote: In short is the limit 402,653,184 bytes of file size or 402,653,184 characters as preprocessed by BBEdit? I know. The answer is all that is proprietary. sigh. Create files of the types you describe and try opening them yourself in BBEdit to unlock the mysteries of the universe. If pressed to open a very large text file then vim(1) from Terminal.app will open anything you have disk space for. Be forewarned that it makes a copy of the file so you need at least as much free space in your home directory as the original. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a specific feature request or would like to report a suspected (or confirmed) problem with the software, please email to supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: BBEdit Light
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 11:32:00AM -0600, le...@gmail wrote: I have a friend who is trying to recover a large text file on an old OS 9 (or maybe 8.5) machine. The file is corrupted, and he is unable to copy it. I suggested he try to open it in BBEdit, but the BBEdit 6.x updaters still available seem to be only for the full BBEdit version and I can't find any mention of the old BBEdit Light installers. If the file is so corrupted that it can not be copied in Finder, no normal application is going to be able to read it. Perhaps one could use a filesystem repair utility to recover some or all of the file. Tried fixing the disk with Disk First Aid yet? Caution: runs the risk of losing everything. There are disk block editors which allow one to read (and write) any block on the disk in the raw. If your friend isn't afraid of learning the inner workings of HFS then one might pluck a copy of the file off the disk 512 bytes at a time. Perhaps easier than retyping, but certain to be tedious. With a bit of programming skill one might write an abnormal application that internally walks the HFS trees and allocation tables to attempt recovery of the file one block at a time. The difference between this and reading the file through the operating system and the HFS file system is when reading block at a time you don't have to give up on the first error. Perhaps some of the existing system repair tools do this? TechTool perhaps? The drive is on an old system, might physically move the drive to a newer system to make use of newer tools. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a specific feature request or would like to report a suspected (or confirmed) problem with the software, please email to supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Changing line feeds on multiple files
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 01:10:24PM -0700, le...@gmail wrote: On 11-Dec-2008, at 10:38, Bill Whitacre wrote: If this has already been covered, I'm sorry for asking again ... but what are my options for changing Mac line feeds to Unix line feeds on a global basis for 150 files? # man tr Or wait, you mean with BBEdit? I suppose a text-factory to open all 150 files and save them again? I'd use tr BBEdit is great and all that but for bulk work I too would fall back to tr or awk or surely there are trivial re-ending utilities in /usr/bin/ ? -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a specific feature request or would like to report a suspected (or confirmed) problem with the software, please email to supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: A few feature requests
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 08:59:37PM +0100, Maarten Sneep wrote: On 25 nov 2008, at 20:46, mistergoomba wrote: - Trim trailing white space after saving Not sure I'd like that. Agreed. Want the file saved to be exactly what I have in the editing buffer when Save... is invoked. I don't have BBEdit handy but in past versions one could Zap Gremlins to delete trailing spaces, hidden control characters, and other nasties. Perhaps I'm confusing BBEdit function names with those of Qued/M and/or Nisus (was once a great word processor that wrote plain text files). IIRC Find/Replace \b+$ with will trim trailing whitespace. - Replace tabs with spaces See Auto-expand tabs in the Editor Defaults in the preferences. And there is an Entab and Detab menu command somewhere for changing existing documents. -- David Kelly N4HHE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a specific feature request or would like to report a suspected (or confirmed) problem with the software, please email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than posting to the group. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: A few feature requests
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 12:15:46PM -0800, mistergoomba wrote: one more tiny nit-pick, it would also be nice to ctrl-tab between open documents Unless BBEdit has disabled it command-tab will rotate through open applications and command-~ (command-tilde) will rotate through the front application's windows. A basic MacOS X feature that should be present everywhere. -- David Kelly N4HHE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a specific feature request or would like to report a suspected (or confirmed) problem with the software, please email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than posting to the group. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Huge Files
On Nov 13, 2008, at 9:11 PM, Rich Siegel wrote:
On 11/13/08 at 9:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Kelly) wrote:
Thats what I said. To the effect the table allocation for
tracking resources was statically allocated and therefore limited.
That actually has nothing to do with it. :-) Other allocations,
e.g. via malloc() do not share the same limitation. It's an
implementation detail of NewHandle() in the guts of the OS, and
is for us to work around at some future point.
Very interesting. malloc() does work for 2 GB. Broke at 3 GB:
#include stdlib.h
#include stdio.h
#include stdint.h
#include unistd.h
#define GIGABYTES20UL
main()
{
uint32_ti;
char *cp;
cp = malloc( GIGABYTES );
printf(cp = 0x%08x\n, cp );
for( i = 0 ; i GIGABYTES ; i++ )
cp[i] = 0x55;
printf(sleeping\n);
sleep( 1000 );
}
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Re: What ever happened to the 2 Up button?
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 04:49:59PM -0500, Rich Siegel wrote: On 11/10/08 at 3:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frankie) wrote: Is there any way to get the old feature back? Sorry, it's gone for good. I too rather liked 2-up but perhaps we can get the same effect out of the system Page Setup, or whatever its called these days? (I shouldn't reply to this sort thing when all I have in reach are Windows machines.) I have a number of custom saved page setups. When I was using an HP DJ-990 a lot it can print using only the black ink but the parameter for turning off color ink was painful to reach. So I made an DJ990 Black Only saved config. Have others for duplex printing as the duplex button wasn't as easy to reach in all print drivers as it is now. Thinking a custom 2-up saved config might serve well. -- David Kelly N4HHE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a specific feature request or would like to report a suspected (or confirmed) problem with the software, please email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than posting to the group. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
