Re: Newbie problem - Tech support sent me here

2021-06-27 Thread 'Dmitry Markman' via BBEdit Talk 
just run from terminal

ls -la

if you don’t see VCTTolls there then it’s not there, obviously


as far as I remember when you upgrade to 10.15 all not system folders in the 
root were moved to the folder

/Users/Shared/Relocated Items


also you should check folder /System/Volumes/Data not /Volumes/


/System/Volumes/Data - is a mounting point to the volume "Macintosh HD - Data”

hope it will help

dm


> On Jun 27, 2021, at 12:59 PM, Neill Smith  wrote:
> 
> In response to Dimitry I ran the following in Terminal
> 
> Neills-MacBook-Pro:~ neillsmith$ ls -la /VCTTools
> 
> ls: /VCTTools: No such file or directory
> 
> Neills-MacBook-Pro:~ neillsmith$ xattr /VCTTools
> 
> xattr: No such file: /VCTTools
> 
> 
> Did I do this correctly?
> 
> Neill
> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 12:36:17 PM UTC-4 Neill Smith wrote:
> Further information. I suspect you all are correct about a security file 
> system problem.
> 
> As I noted earlier, the BBEdit script HydroV_dbg.scpt  is invoked from within 
> BBEdit from a GEO file. The BBEdit SCPT file in turn invokes the AppleScript 
> file hdbgsub.sh. This script file runs a compiled program HydroV that reads 
> the GEO file and outputs a slew of files that are then used by other compiled 
> programs.
> 
> The reason for executing the GEO file from within BBEdit is to make sure it 
> is correct. Part of the BBEdit SCPT file opens the OUT file produced by 
> HydroV so that it can be checked.
> 
> Once a GEO file is correct, a number of Matlab programs use it. These Matlab 
> codes directly run the AppleScript file hdbgsub.sh with the GEO file as the 
> input. Other programs are then run under Matlab from the output files that 
> are created by running the GEO file.
> 
> Now the Matlab file that runs the AppleScript SH file hdbgsub.sh directly is 
> called rung.m
> This file works under either the Mac OS or the Win OS. A piece of the code 
> from rungeo.m is shown below.
> 
> if ismac
> 
> slash = '/';
> 
> root = 'bash ';
> 
> ext = '.sh';
> 
> else
> 
> slash = '\';
> 
> root = 'C:';
> 
> ext = '';
> 
> end
> 
> [Hstat Hmsg] = 
> system([root,slash,'VCTTools',slash,'bat',slash,'hdbgsub',ext,' ',filename]);
> 
> 
> 
> Basically, this snippet either calls  hdbgsub.sh or  hdbgsub.bat depending on 
> the OS.
> 
> This is a long winded way to get to my new info.
> 
> I directly ran rungeo.m so that it would go directly to hdbgsub.sh. I got the 
> following message.
> 
> bash: /VCTTools/bat/hsub.sh: No such file or directory
> 
> If I try to CD from my test directory to /VCTTools directly I get
> 
> K>> cd
> 
> /Users/neillsmith/NSS_Office/Veh/Low_Re_Tests
> 
> K>> cd /VCTTools
> Error using cd
> Cannot CD to /VCTTools (Name is nonexistent or not a directory).
> 
> So in Finder I can get to /VCTTools and edit files. BBEdit can open files 
> under /VCTTools and edit them.
> But other programs don't see this directory /VCTTools.
> 
> So what is the best fix that doesn't involve a lot of path edits and break 
> the simple SVN update process?
> 
> I really appreciate all of your help.
> 
> Neill
> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 10:58:45 AM UTC-4 Neill Smith wrote:
> In reply to Rich, I executed a Terminal command that I found online yesterday 
> to get back to bash. The response that I got was "No changes" so I don't know 
> if I am running bash or not. How do I tell?
> 
> Will respond to other responses later. Gotta go get sick wife breakfast.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Neill
> 
> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 10:34:51 AM UTC-4 Neill Smith wrote:
> I need to learn to proof better. I have read & write permissions on all files 
> and folders.
> 
> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 9:46:56 AM UTC-4 Neill Smith wrote:
> In response to Kreme earlier. I checked the permissions on\VCTTools using Get 
> Info. I have had & write permissions. Everyone else has read permissions. The 
> same permissions hold for the SH file hdbgsub.sh.
> 
> Is there some other way to check permissions other than Get Info?
> 
> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 9:38:16 AM UTC-4 Neill Smith wrote:
> 
> Yes it does exist.  I can open that file (and any other SH file) in 
> AppleScript and edit it. I can open it directly using BBEdit but of course it 
> looks like garbage.
> 
> This particular setup is from when my former company used Windows. On a WinPC 
> having VCTTools at c:\VCTTools on every computer meant anyone could add a new 
> tool (VCTTools was maintained in a SVN repository) to VCTTools and then 
> everyone could just update their VCTTools copy. No one had to edit paths for 
> their computer.
> 
> When we moved to MacOS, VCTTools was placed at the ROOT LEVEL to get the same 
> effect. Files within VCTTools have paths set under this assumption. If 
> VCTTools were a folder under a USER under MacOS, any one updating to the 
> newest version would have to go in and edit paths in a bunch of files.
> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 7:47:55 AM UTC-4 Ulrich Kapp wrote:
> Hi Neill,
> 
> Did you check whether the

Re: Newbie problem - Tech support sent me here

2021-06-27 Thread jj 
The output of the ls  -laeO command you runned can be read as:
permissions - links - owner - group - date - file

So 'wheel' is the group.

If you run 

 ls -laeO "/Volumes/Macintosh HD - Data/VCTTools/bat"

your script should appear in the listing.
On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 8:24:37 PM UTC+2 nssmi...@gmail.com wrote:

> When I put quotes around the path I get the following:
>
> Neills-MacBook-Pro:~ neillsmith$ ls -laeO "/Volumes/Macintosh HD - 
> Data/VCTTools"
>
> total 32
>
> drwxr-xr-x   9 neillsmith  wheel  -288 Mar 23  2018 .
>
> drwxr-xr-x   3 rootwheel  - 96 May 16 16:08 ..
>
> -rw-r--r--@  1 neillsmith  wheel  hidden 14340 Jun 27 13:11 .DS_Store
>
> drwxr-xr-x   9 neillsmith  wheel  -288 Mar 10  2018 .svn
>
> drwxr-xr-x  36 neillsmith  wheel  -   1152 Mar 10  2018 Etc
>
> drwxr-xr-x  61 neillsmith  wheel  -   1952 Sep 27  2020 Exe
>
> drwxr-xr-x   6 neillsmith  wheel  -192 Dec 14  2017 MacBin
>
> drwxr-xr-x  47 neillsmith  wheel  -   1504 Apr 15  2020 Matlab
>
> drwxr-xr-x  35 neillsmith  wheel  -   1120 Dec 19  2019 bat
>
> Neills-MacBook-Pro:~ neillsmith$ 
>
> What the heck is wheel?
>
> Neill
> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 1:57:23 PM UTC-4 jj wrote:
>
>> Neill,
>>
>> The path /Volumes/Macintosh HD - Data/VCTTools contains spaces.
>> You should quote paths that contains spaces when using them in the 
>> terminal, like so:
>> "/Volumes/Macintosh HD - Data/VCTTools"
>>
>> Otherwise the shell interprets it as 4 paths space separated: 
>>  /Volumes/Macintosh
>> HD
>> -
>> Data/VCTTools
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 7:42:59 PM UTC+2 nssmi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks to Rich and Jean I "think" we have found the problem. When I went 
>>> to execute the Terminal commands suggested by Rich I couldn't find the 
>>> /VCTTools folder in Finder to drag it to the Terminal window.
>>>
>>> I can get to /VCTTools because I had a shortcut to it in the LHS panel 
>>> of Finder where you save links to often-used folders. I have been clicking 
>>> that link to get to /VCTTools. When I do, the path shown is
>>>
>>> /Volumes/Macintosh HD - Data/VCTTools
>>>
>>> which Jean noticed. If I paste the above path into the Terminal commands 
>>> suggested by Rich I get
>>>
>>> Neills-MacBook-Pro:~ neillsmith$ ls -laeO /Volumes/Macintosh HD - 
>>> Data/VCTTools
>>>
>>> ls: -: No such file or directory
>>>
>>> ls: /Volumes/Macintosh: No such file or directory
>>>
>>> ls: Data/VCTTools: No such file or directory
>>>
>>> ls: HD: No such file or directory
>>>
>>> Neills-MacBook-Pro:~ neillsmith$ 
>>>
>>>
>>> If I click "back" when at the/VCTTools folder via my saved Finder link, 
>>> I end up at
>>>
>>>Macintosh HD without /Volumes as part of the path.
>>>
>>>  I see folders
>>>
>>>   Applications, System, Users
>>>
>>> I see a lot of grayed-out entries including
>>>
>>>  Volumes
>>>
>>> If I double-click Volumes, I see two folders
>>>
>>>   Mackintosh HD (has different icon, might not be a folder)
>>>
>>>   Mackintosh - Data
>>>
>>> If I double-click Mackintosh - HD, I see the folder VCTToolds.
>>>
>>> So VCTTools is not where  thought it was. 
>>>
>>> So how and where do I move VCTTools?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Neill
>>> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 1:12:27 PM UTC-4 jj wrote:
>>>
 Hi Neill,

 I notice that the scripting error you describe in your first post is:

 >A scripting error has occurred:
 >sh: /VCTTools/bat/hdbgsub.sh: No such file or directory

 Yet in another post you add:
 
 >The HydroV_dbg.scpt file invokes the script hdbgsub.sh which 
 resides in folder
 >/Volumes/Macintosh HD - Data/VCTTools/bat

 Since macOS Catalina, MacOS now splits the operating system and data 
 files into two volumes.

 see <
 https://www.macworld.com/article/233490/why-you-might-see-a-new-data-disk-in-catalina.html
 >

 So hdbgsub.sh was probably moved to the data files when you upgraded 
 you system and is accessible at:
 
 /Volumes/Macintosh HD - Data/VCTTools/bat/hdbgsub.sh
 
 Consequently you should replace the old path by this new path in the 
 script that calls hdbgsub.sh.

 [Hstat Hmsg] = system([root,slash,'Volumes',slash,'Macintosh HD - 
 Data',slash,'VCTTools',slash,'bat',slash,'hdbgsub',ext,' ',filename]);
 
 HTH

 Jean Jourdain


 On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 7:09:51 PM UTC+2 sie...@barebones.com 
 wrote:

> On 27 Jun 2021, at 12:36, Neill Smith wrote: 
>
> > K>> cd /VCTTools 
> > Error using cd 
> > Cannot CD to /VCTTools (Name is nonexistent or not a directory). 
> > 
> > So in Finder I can get to /VCTTools and edit files. BBEdit can open 
> > files 
> > under /VCTTools and edit them. 
> > But other programs don't see this directory /VCTTools. 
>
>

Re: Newbie problem - Tech support sent me here

2021-06-27 Thread Neill Smith 
When I put quotes around the path I get the following:

Neills-MacBook-Pro:~ neillsmith$ ls -laeO "/Volumes/Macintosh HD - 
Data/VCTTools"

total 32

drwxr-xr-x   9 neillsmith  wheel  -288 Mar 23  2018 .

drwxr-xr-x   3 rootwheel  - 96 May 16 16:08 ..

-rw-r--r--@  1 neillsmith  wheel  hidden 14340 Jun 27 13:11 .DS_Store

drwxr-xr-x   9 neillsmith  wheel  -288 Mar 10  2018 .svn

drwxr-xr-x  36 neillsmith  wheel  -   1152 Mar 10  2018 Etc

drwxr-xr-x  61 neillsmith  wheel  -   1952 Sep 27  2020 Exe

drwxr-xr-x   6 neillsmith  wheel  -192 Dec 14  2017 MacBin

drwxr-xr-x  47 neillsmith  wheel  -   1504 Apr 15  2020 Matlab

drwxr-xr-x  35 neillsmith  wheel  -   1120 Dec 19  2019 bat

Neills-MacBook-Pro:~ neillsmith$ 

What the heck is wheel?

Neill
On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 1:57:23 PM UTC-4 jj wrote:

> Neill,
>
> The path /Volumes/Macintosh HD - Data/VCTTools contains spaces.
> You should quote paths that contains spaces when using them in the 
> terminal, like so:
> "/Volumes/Macintosh HD - Data/VCTTools"
>
> Otherwise the shell interprets it as 4 paths space separated: 
>  /Volumes/Macintosh
> HD
> -
> Data/VCTTools
>
>
> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 7:42:59 PM UTC+2 nssmi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks to Rich and Jean I "think" we have found the problem. When I went 
>> to execute the Terminal commands suggested by Rich I couldn't find the 
>> /VCTTools folder in Finder to drag it to the Terminal window.
>>
>> I can get to /VCTTools because I had a shortcut to it in the LHS panel of 
>> Finder where you save links to often-used folders. I have been clicking 
>> that link to get to /VCTTools. When I do, the path shown is
>>
>> /Volumes/Macintosh HD - Data/VCTTools
>>
>> which Jean noticed. If I paste the above path into the Terminal commands 
>> suggested by Rich I get
>>
>> Neills-MacBook-Pro:~ neillsmith$ ls -laeO /Volumes/Macintosh HD - 
>> Data/VCTTools
>>
>> ls: -: No such file or directory
>>
>> ls: /Volumes/Macintosh: No such file or directory
>>
>> ls: Data/VCTTools: No such file or directory
>>
>> ls: HD: No such file or directory
>>
>> Neills-MacBook-Pro:~ neillsmith$ 
>>
>>
>> If I click "back" when at the/VCTTools folder via my saved Finder link, I 
>> end up at
>>
>>Macintosh HD without /Volumes as part of the path.
>>
>>  I see folders
>>
>>   Applications, System, Users
>>
>> I see a lot of grayed-out entries including
>>
>>  Volumes
>>
>> If I double-click Volumes, I see two folders
>>
>>   Mackintosh HD (has different icon, might not be a folder)
>>
>>   Mackintosh - Data
>>
>> If I double-click Mackintosh - HD, I see the folder VCTToolds.
>>
>> So VCTTools is not where  thought it was. 
>>
>> So how and where do I move VCTTools?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Neill
>> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 1:12:27 PM UTC-4 jj wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Neill,
>>>
>>> I notice that the scripting error you describe in your first post is:
>>>
>>> >A scripting error has occurred:
>>> >sh: /VCTTools/bat/hdbgsub.sh: No such file or directory
>>>
>>> Yet in another post you add:
>>> 
>>> >The HydroV_dbg.scpt file invokes the script hdbgsub.sh which 
>>> resides in folder
>>> >/Volumes/Macintosh HD - Data/VCTTools/bat
>>>
>>> Since macOS Catalina, MacOS now splits the operating system and data 
>>> files into two volumes.
>>>
>>> see <
>>> https://www.macworld.com/article/233490/why-you-might-see-a-new-data-disk-in-catalina.html
>>> >
>>>
>>> So hdbgsub.sh was probably moved to the data files when you upgraded you 
>>> system and is accessible at:
>>> 
>>> /Volumes/Macintosh HD - Data/VCTTools/bat/hdbgsub.sh
>>> 
>>> Consequently you should replace the old path by this new path in the 
>>> script that calls hdbgsub.sh.
>>>
>>> [Hstat Hmsg] = system([root,slash,'Volumes',slash,'Macintosh HD - 
>>> Data',slash,'VCTTools',slash,'bat',slash,'hdbgsub',ext,' ',filename]);
>>> 
>>> HTH
>>>
>>> Jean Jourdain
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 7:09:51 PM UTC+2 sie...@barebones.com wrote:
>>>
 On 27 Jun 2021, at 12:36, Neill Smith wrote: 

 > K>> cd /VCTTools 
 > Error using cd 
 > Cannot CD to /VCTTools (Name is nonexistent or not a directory). 
 > 
 > So in Finder I can get to /VCTTools and edit files. BBEdit can open 
 > files 
 > under /VCTTools and edit them. 
 > But other programs don't see this directory /VCTTools. 

 Perhaps you and the Finder have a different idea of where that folder 
 is. 

 Try this: 

 - open a new Terminal window. 

 - type "ls -laeO " (including the space), but do NOT press Return or 
 Enter. 

 - drag the "VCTTools" folder from the Finder *into* the Terminal 
 window. 
 This will enter the full path to the folder. 

 - now press Return. 

 At step 3 you'll see the actual Unix path to the "VCTTools" folder, and 
 that

Re: Newbie problem - Tech support sent me here

2021-06-27 Thread jj 
Neill,

The path /Volumes/Macintosh HD - Data/VCTTools contains spaces.
You should quote paths that contains spaces when using them in the 
terminal, like so:
"/Volumes/Macintosh HD - Data/VCTTools"

Otherwise the shell interprets it as 4 paths space separated: 
 /Volumes/Macintosh
HD
-
Data/VCTTools


On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 7:42:59 PM UTC+2 nssmi...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks to Rich and Jean I "think" we have found the problem. When I went 
> to execute the Terminal commands suggested by Rich I couldn't find the 
> /VCTTools folder in Finder to drag it to the Terminal window.
>
> I can get to /VCTTools because I had a shortcut to it in the LHS panel of 
> Finder where you save links to often-used folders. I have been clicking 
> that link to get to /VCTTools. When I do, the path shown is
>
> /Volumes/Macintosh HD - Data/VCTTools
>
> which Jean noticed. If I paste the above path into the Terminal commands 
> suggested by Rich I get
>
> Neills-MacBook-Pro:~ neillsmith$ ls -laeO /Volumes/Macintosh HD - 
> Data/VCTTools
>
> ls: -: No such file or directory
>
> ls: /Volumes/Macintosh: No such file or directory
>
> ls: Data/VCTTools: No such file or directory
>
> ls: HD: No such file or directory
>
> Neills-MacBook-Pro:~ neillsmith$ 
>
>
> If I click "back" when at the/VCTTools folder via my saved Finder link, I 
> end up at
>
>Macintosh HD without /Volumes as part of the path.
>
>  I see folders
>
>   Applications, System, Users
>
> I see a lot of grayed-out entries including
>
>  Volumes
>
> If I double-click Volumes, I see two folders
>
>   Mackintosh HD (has different icon, might not be a folder)
>
>   Mackintosh - Data
>
> If I double-click Mackintosh - HD, I see the folder VCTToolds.
>
> So VCTTools is not where  thought it was. 
>
> So how and where do I move VCTTools?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Neill
> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 1:12:27 PM UTC-4 jj wrote:
>
>> Hi Neill,
>>
>> I notice that the scripting error you describe in your first post is:
>>
>> >A scripting error has occurred:
>> >sh: /VCTTools/bat/hdbgsub.sh: No such file or directory
>>
>> Yet in another post you add:
>> 
>> >The HydroV_dbg.scpt file invokes the script hdbgsub.sh which resides 
>> in folder
>> >/Volumes/Macintosh HD - Data/VCTTools/bat
>>
>> Since macOS Catalina, MacOS now splits the operating system and data 
>> files into two volumes.
>>
>> see <
>> https://www.macworld.com/article/233490/why-you-might-see-a-new-data-disk-in-catalina.html
>> >
>>
>> So hdbgsub.sh was probably moved to the data files when you upgraded you 
>> system and is accessible at:
>> 
>> /Volumes/Macintosh HD - Data/VCTTools/bat/hdbgsub.sh
>> 
>> Consequently you should replace the old path by this new path in the 
>> script that calls hdbgsub.sh.
>>
>> [Hstat Hmsg] = system([root,slash,'Volumes',slash,'Macintosh HD - 
>> Data',slash,'VCTTools',slash,'bat',slash,'hdbgsub',ext,' ',filename]);
>> 
>> HTH
>>
>> Jean Jourdain
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 7:09:51 PM UTC+2 sie...@barebones.com wrote:
>>
>>> On 27 Jun 2021, at 12:36, Neill Smith wrote: 
>>>
>>> > K>> cd /VCTTools 
>>> > Error using cd 
>>> > Cannot CD to /VCTTools (Name is nonexistent or not a directory). 
>>> > 
>>> > So in Finder I can get to /VCTTools and edit files. BBEdit can open 
>>> > files 
>>> > under /VCTTools and edit them. 
>>> > But other programs don't see this directory /VCTTools. 
>>>
>>> Perhaps you and the Finder have a different idea of where that folder 
>>> is. 
>>>
>>> Try this: 
>>>
>>> - open a new Terminal window. 
>>>
>>> - type "ls -laeO " (including the space), but do NOT press Return or 
>>> Enter. 
>>>
>>> - drag the "VCTTools" folder from the Finder *into* the Terminal window. 
>>> This will enter the full path to the folder. 
>>>
>>> - now press Return. 
>>>
>>> At step 3 you'll see the actual Unix path to the "VCTTools" folder, and 
>>> that perhaps may explain why Terminal and Finder don't agree. 
>>>
>>> Then supply the output from the "ls" command, since that may hold some 
>>> clues as well. 
>>>
>>> R. 
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Rich Siegel Bare Bones Software, Inc. 
>>>   
>>>
>>> Someday I'll look back on all this and laugh... until they sedate me. 
>>>
>>

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Re: Newbie problem - Tech support sent me here

2021-06-27 Thread Neill Smith 
Thanks to Rich and Jean I "think" we have found the problem. When I went to 
execute the Terminal commands suggested by Rich I couldn't find the 
/VCTTools folder in Finder to drag it to the Terminal window.

I can get to /VCTTools because I had a shortcut to it in the LHS panel of 
Finder where you save links to often-used folders. I have been clicking 
that link to get to /VCTTools. When I do, the path shown is

/Volumes/Macintosh HD - Data/VCTTools

which Jean noticed. If I paste the above path into the Terminal commands 
suggested by Rich I get

Neills-MacBook-Pro:~ neillsmith$ ls -laeO /Volumes/Macintosh HD - 
Data/VCTTools

ls: -: No such file or directory

ls: /Volumes/Macintosh: No such file or directory

ls: Data/VCTTools: No such file or directory

ls: HD: No such file or directory

Neills-MacBook-Pro:~ neillsmith$ 


If I click "back" when at the/VCTTools folder via my saved Finder link, I 
end up at

   Macintosh HD without /Volumes as part of the path.

 I see folders

  Applications, System, Users

I see a lot of grayed-out entries including

 Volumes

If I double-click Volumes, I see two folders

  Mackintosh HD (has different icon, might not be a folder)

  Mackintosh - Data

If I double-click Mackintosh - HD, I see the folder VCTToolds.

So VCTTools is not where  thought it was. 

So how and where do I move VCTTools?


Thanks,

Neill
On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 1:12:27 PM UTC-4 jj wrote:

> Hi Neill,
>
> I notice that the scripting error you describe in your first post is:
>
> >A scripting error has occurred:
> >sh: /VCTTools/bat/hdbgsub.sh: No such file or directory
>
> Yet in another post you add:
> 
> >The HydroV_dbg.scpt file invokes the script hdbgsub.sh which resides 
> in folder
> >/Volumes/Macintosh HD - Data/VCTTools/bat
>
> Since macOS Catalina, MacOS now splits the operating system and data files 
> into two volumes.
>
> see <
> https://www.macworld.com/article/233490/why-you-might-see-a-new-data-disk-in-catalina.html
> >
>
> So hdbgsub.sh was probably moved to the data files when you upgraded you 
> system and is accessible at:
> 
> /Volumes/Macintosh HD - Data/VCTTools/bat/hdbgsub.sh
> 
> Consequently you should replace the old path by this new path in the 
> script that calls hdbgsub.sh.
>
> [Hstat Hmsg] = system([root,slash,'Volumes',slash,'Macintosh HD - 
> Data',slash,'VCTTools',slash,'bat',slash,'hdbgsub',ext,' ',filename]);
> 
> HTH
>
> Jean Jourdain
>
>
> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 7:09:51 PM UTC+2 sie...@barebones.com wrote:
>
>> On 27 Jun 2021, at 12:36, Neill Smith wrote: 
>>
>> > K>> cd /VCTTools 
>> > Error using cd 
>> > Cannot CD to /VCTTools (Name is nonexistent or not a directory). 
>> > 
>> > So in Finder I can get to /VCTTools and edit files. BBEdit can open 
>> > files 
>> > under /VCTTools and edit them. 
>> > But other programs don't see this directory /VCTTools. 
>>
>> Perhaps you and the Finder have a different idea of where that folder 
>> is. 
>>
>> Try this: 
>>
>> - open a new Terminal window. 
>>
>> - type "ls -laeO " (including the space), but do NOT press Return or 
>> Enter. 
>>
>> - drag the "VCTTools" folder from the Finder *into* the Terminal window. 
>> This will enter the full path to the folder. 
>>
>> - now press Return. 
>>
>> At step 3 you'll see the actual Unix path to the "VCTTools" folder, and 
>> that perhaps may explain why Terminal and Finder don't agree. 
>>
>> Then supply the output from the "ls" command, since that may hold some 
>> clues as well. 
>>
>> R. 
>>
>> -- 
>> Rich Siegel Bare Bones Software, Inc. 
>>   
>>
>> Someday I'll look back on all this and laugh... until they sedate me. 
>>
>

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Re: Newbie problem - Tech support sent me here

2021-06-27 Thread jj 
Hi Neill,

I notice that the scripting error you describe in your first post is:

>A scripting error has occurred:
>sh: /VCTTools/bat/hdbgsub.sh: No such file or directory

Yet in another post you add:

>The HydroV_dbg.scpt file invokes the script hdbgsub.sh which resides 
in folder
>/Volumes/Macintosh HD - Data/VCTTools/bat

Since macOS Catalina, MacOS now splits the operating system and data files 
into two volumes.

see 


So hdbgsub.sh was probably moved to the data files when you upgraded you 
system and is accessible at:

/Volumes/Macintosh HD - Data/VCTTools/bat/hdbgsub.sh

Consequently you should replace the old path by this new path in the script 
that calls hdbgsub.sh.

[Hstat Hmsg] = system([root,slash,'Volumes',slash,'Macintosh HD - 
Data',slash,'VCTTools',slash,'bat',slash,'hdbgsub',ext,' ',filename]);

HTH

Jean Jourdain


On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 7:09:51 PM UTC+2 sie...@barebones.com wrote:

> On 27 Jun 2021, at 12:36, Neill Smith wrote:
>
> > K>> cd /VCTTools
> > Error using cd
> > Cannot CD to /VCTTools (Name is nonexistent or not a directory).
> >
> > So in Finder I can get to /VCTTools and edit files. BBEdit can open 
> > files
> > under /VCTTools and edit them.
> > But other programs don't see this directory /VCTTools.
>
> Perhaps you and the Finder have a different idea of where that folder 
> is.
>
> Try this:
>
> - open a new Terminal window.
>
> - type "ls -laeO " (including the space), but do NOT press Return or 
> Enter.
>
> - drag the "VCTTools" folder from the Finder *into* the Terminal window. 
> This will enter the full path to the folder.
>
> - now press Return.
>
> At step 3 you'll see the actual Unix path to the "VCTTools" folder, and 
> that perhaps may explain why Terminal and Finder don't agree.
>
> Then supply the output from the "ls" command, since that may hold some 
> clues as well.
>
> R.
>
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>
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Re: Newbie problem - Tech support sent me here

2021-06-27 Thread Rich Siegel 

On 27 Jun 2021, at 12:36, Neill Smith wrote:


K>> cd /VCTTools
Error using cd
Cannot CD to /VCTTools (Name is nonexistent or not a directory).

So in Finder I can get to /VCTTools and edit files. BBEdit can open 
files

under /VCTTools and edit them.
But other programs don't see this directory /VCTTools.


Perhaps you and the Finder have a different idea of where that folder 
is.


Try this:

- open a new Terminal window.

- type "ls -laeO " (including the space), but do NOT press Return or 
Enter.


- drag the "VCTTools" folder from the Finder *into* the Terminal window. 
This will enter the full path to the folder.


- now press Return.

At step 3 you'll see the actual Unix path to the "VCTTools" folder, and 
that perhaps may explain why Terminal and Finder don't agree.


Then supply the output from the "ls" command, since that may hold some 
clues as well.


R.

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Re: Newbie problem - Tech support sent me here

2021-06-27 Thread Neill Smith 
In response to Dimitry I ran the following in Terminal

Neills-MacBook-Pro:~ neillsmith$ ls -la /VCTTools

ls: /VCTTools: No such file or directory

Neills-MacBook-Pro:~ neillsmith$ xattr /VCTTools

xattr: No such file: /VCTTools

Did I do this correctly?

Neill
On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 12:36:17 PM UTC-4 Neill Smith wrote:

> Further information. I suspect you all are correct about a security file 
> system problem.
>
> As I noted earlier, the BBEdit script HydroV_dbg.scpt  is invoked from 
> within BBEdit from a GEO file. The BBEdit SCPT file in turn invokes the 
> AppleScript file hdbgsub.sh. This script file runs a compiled program 
> HydroV that reads the GEO file and outputs a slew of files that are then 
> used by other compiled programs.
>
> The reason for executing the GEO file from within BBEdit is to make sure 
> it is correct. Part of the BBEdit SCPT file opens the OUT file produced by 
> HydroV so that it can be checked.
>
> Once a GEO file is correct, a number of Matlab programs use it. These 
> Matlab codes directly run the AppleScript file hdbgsub.sh with the GEO file 
> as the input. Other programs are then run under Matlab from the output 
> files that are created by running the GEO file.
>
> Now the Matlab file that runs the AppleScript SH file hdbgsub.sh directly 
> is called rung.m
> This file works under either the Mac OS or the Win OS. A piece of the code 
> from rungeo.m is shown below.
>
> if ismac
>
> slash = '/';
>
> root = 'bash ';
>
> ext = '.sh';
>
> else
>
> slash = '\';
>
> root = 'C:';
>
> ext = '';
>
> end
>
> [Hstat Hmsg] = 
> system([root,slash,'VCTTools',slash,'bat',slash,'hdbgsub',ext,' 
> ',filename]);
>
>
> Basically, this snippet either calls  hdbgsub.sh or  hdbgsub.bat depending 
> on the OS.
>
> This is a long winded way to get to my new info.
>
> I directly ran rungeo.m so that it would go directly to hdbgsub.sh. I got 
> the following message.
>
> bash: /VCTTools/bat/hsub.sh: No such file or directory
>
> If I try to CD from my test directory to /VCTTools directly I get
>
> K>> cd
>
> /Users/neillsmith/NSS_Office/Veh/Low_Re_Tests
>
> K>> cd /VCTTools
> Error using cd
> Cannot CD to /VCTTools (Name is nonexistent or not a directory).
>
> So in Finder I can get to /VCTTools and edit files. BBEdit can open files 
> under /VCTTools and edit them.
> But other programs don't see this directory /VCTTools.
>
> So what is the best fix that doesn't involve a lot of path edits and break 
> the simple SVN update process?
>
> I really appreciate all of your help.
>
> Neill
> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 10:58:45 AM UTC-4 Neill Smith wrote:
>
>> In reply to Rich, I executed a Terminal command that I found online 
>> yesterday to get back to bash. The response that I got was "No changes" so 
>> I don't know if I am running bash or not. How do I tell?
>>
>> Will respond to other responses later. Gotta go get sick wife breakfast.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Neill
>>
>> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 10:34:51 AM UTC-4 Neill Smith wrote:
>>
>>> I need to learn to proof better. I have read & write permissions on all 
>>> files and folders.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 9:46:56 AM UTC-4 Neill Smith wrote:
>>>
 In response to Kreme earlier. I checked the permissions on\VCTTools 
 using Get Info. I have had & write permissions. Everyone else has read 
 permissions. The same permissions hold for the SH file hdbgsub.sh.

 Is there some other way to check permissions other than Get Info?

 On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 9:38:16 AM UTC-4 Neill Smith wrote:

>
> Yes it does exist.  I can open that file (and any other SH file) in 
> AppleScript and edit it. I can open it directly using BBEdit but of 
> course 
> it looks like garbage.
>
> This particular setup is from when my former company used Windows. On 
> a WinPC having VCTTools at c:\VCTTools on every computer meant anyone 
> could 
> add a new tool (VCTTools was maintained in a SVN repository) to VCTTools 
> and then everyone could just update their VCTTools copy. No one had to 
> edit 
> paths for their computer.
>
> When we moved to MacOS, VCTTools was placed at the ROOT LEVEL to get 
> the same effect. Files within VCTTools have paths set under this 
> assumption. If VCTTools were a folder under a USER under MacOS, any one 
> updating to the newest version would have to go in and edit paths in a 
> bunch of files.
> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 7:47:55 AM UTC-4 Ulrich Kapp wrote:
>
>> Hi Neill,
>>
>> Did you check whether the script file /VCTTools/bat/hdbgsub.sh does 
>> exist?
>>
>> Ulrich
>>
>> Am 27.06.2021 um 01:10 schrieb Neill Smith :
>>
>> I recently upgraded  my macOS from High Sierra to Big Sur. A script 
>> file that has run for years under BBEdit (and TextWrangler before) has 
>> quit 
>> working. The script is invoked from within a file

Re: Newbie problem - Tech support sent me here

2021-06-27 Thread Neill Smith 
Further information. I suspect you all are correct about a security file 
system problem.

As I noted earlier, the BBEdit script HydroV_dbg.scpt  is invoked from 
within BBEdit from a GEO file. The BBEdit SCPT file in turn invokes the 
AppleScript file hdbgsub.sh. This script file runs a compiled program 
HydroV that reads the GEO file and outputs a slew of files that are then 
used by other compiled programs.

The reason for executing the GEO file from within BBEdit is to make sure it 
is correct. Part of the BBEdit SCPT file opens the OUT file produced by 
HydroV so that it can be checked.

Once a GEO file is correct, a number of Matlab programs use it. These 
Matlab codes directly run the AppleScript file hdbgsub.sh with the GEO file 
as the input. Other programs are then run under Matlab from the output 
files that are created by running the GEO file.

Now the Matlab file that runs the AppleScript SH file hdbgsub.sh directly 
is called rung.m
This file works under either the Mac OS or the Win OS. A piece of the code 
from rungeo.m is shown below.

if ismac

slash = '/';

root = 'bash ';

ext = '.sh';

else

slash = '\';

root = 'C:';

ext = '';

end

[Hstat Hmsg] = 
system([root,slash,'VCTTools',slash,'bat',slash,'hdbgsub',ext,' 
',filename]);


Basically, this snippet either calls  hdbgsub.sh or  hdbgsub.bat depending 
on the OS.

This is a long winded way to get to my new info.

I directly ran rungeo.m so that it would go directly to hdbgsub.sh. I got 
the following message.

bash: /VCTTools/bat/hsub.sh: No such file or directory

If I try to CD from my test directory to /VCTTools directly I get

K>> cd

/Users/neillsmith/NSS_Office/Veh/Low_Re_Tests

K>> cd /VCTTools
Error using cd
Cannot CD to /VCTTools (Name is nonexistent or not a directory).

So in Finder I can get to /VCTTools and edit files. BBEdit can open files 
under /VCTTools and edit them.
But other programs don't see this directory /VCTTools.

So what is the best fix that doesn't involve a lot of path edits and break 
the simple SVN update process?

I really appreciate all of your help.

Neill
On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 10:58:45 AM UTC-4 Neill Smith wrote:

> In reply to Rich, I executed a Terminal command that I found online 
> yesterday to get back to bash. The response that I got was "No changes" so 
> I don't know if I am running bash or not. How do I tell?
>
> Will respond to other responses later. Gotta go get sick wife breakfast.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Neill
>
> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 10:34:51 AM UTC-4 Neill Smith wrote:
>
>> I need to learn to proof better. I have read & write permissions on all 
>> files and folders.
>>
>> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 9:46:56 AM UTC-4 Neill Smith wrote:
>>
>>> In response to Kreme earlier. I checked the permissions on\VCTTools 
>>> using Get Info. I have had & write permissions. Everyone else has read 
>>> permissions. The same permissions hold for the SH file hdbgsub.sh.
>>>
>>> Is there some other way to check permissions other than Get Info?
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 9:38:16 AM UTC-4 Neill Smith wrote:
>>>

 Yes it does exist.  I can open that file (and any other SH file) in 
 AppleScript and edit it. I can open it directly using BBEdit but of course 
 it looks like garbage.

 This particular setup is from when my former company used Windows. On a 
 WinPC having VCTTools at c:\VCTTools on every computer meant anyone could 
 add a new tool (VCTTools was maintained in a SVN repository) to VCTTools 
 and then everyone could just update their VCTTools copy. No one had to 
 edit 
 paths for their computer.

 When we moved to MacOS, VCTTools was placed at the ROOT LEVEL to get 
 the same effect. Files within VCTTools have paths set under this 
 assumption. If VCTTools were a folder under a USER under MacOS, any one 
 updating to the newest version would have to go in and edit paths in a 
 bunch of files.
 On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 7:47:55 AM UTC-4 Ulrich Kapp wrote:

> Hi Neill,
>
> Did you check whether the script file /VCTTools/bat/hdbgsub.sh does 
> exist?
>
> Ulrich
>
> Am 27.06.2021 um 01:10 schrieb Neill Smith :
>
> I recently upgraded  my macOS from High Sierra to Big Sur. A script 
> file that has run for years under BBEdit (and TextWrangler before) has 
> quit 
> working. The script is invoked from within a file [fname].GEO by picking 
> the script from my scripts list in the BBEdit top bar. The script runs a 
> program that reads the [fname].GEO file.
>
> Now the script doesn't run. I get the message
>
> A scripting error has occurred:
>
> sh: /VCTTools/bat/hdbgsub.sh: No such file or directory
>
> This directory does exist. I uninstalled BBEdit and did a clean 
> reinstall. I had to contact BBEdit tech support in order to install the 
> Command Line Tools because old versions of

Re: Newbie problem - Tech support sent me here

2021-06-27 Thread Neill Smith 
In reply to Rich, I executed a Terminal command that I found online 
yesterday to get back to bash. The response that I got was "No changes" so 
I don't know if I am running bash or not. How do I tell?

Will respond to other responses later. Gotta go get sick wife breakfast.

Thanks,

Neill

On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 10:34:51 AM UTC-4 Neill Smith wrote:

> I need to learn to proof better. I have read & write permissions on all 
> files and folders.
>
> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 9:46:56 AM UTC-4 Neill Smith wrote:
>
>> In response to Kreme earlier. I checked the permissions on\VCTTools using 
>> Get Info. I have had & write permissions. Everyone else has read 
>> permissions. The same permissions hold for the SH file hdbgsub.sh.
>>
>> Is there some other way to check permissions other than Get Info?
>>
>> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 9:38:16 AM UTC-4 Neill Smith wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Yes it does exist.  I can open that file (and any other SH file) in 
>>> AppleScript and edit it. I can open it directly using BBEdit but of course 
>>> it looks like garbage.
>>>
>>> This particular setup is from when my former company used Windows. On a 
>>> WinPC having VCTTools at c:\VCTTools on every computer meant anyone could 
>>> add a new tool (VCTTools was maintained in a SVN repository) to VCTTools 
>>> and then everyone could just update their VCTTools copy. No one had to edit 
>>> paths for their computer.
>>>
>>> When we moved to MacOS, VCTTools was placed at the ROOT LEVEL to get the 
>>> same effect. Files within VCTTools have paths set under this assumption. If 
>>> VCTTools were a folder under a USER under MacOS, any one updating to the 
>>> newest version would have to go in and edit paths in a bunch of files.
>>> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 7:47:55 AM UTC-4 Ulrich Kapp wrote:
>>>
 Hi Neill,

 Did you check whether the script file /VCTTools/bat/hdbgsub.sh does 
 exist?

 Ulrich

 Am 27.06.2021 um 01:10 schrieb Neill Smith :

 I recently upgraded  my macOS from High Sierra to Big Sur. A script 
 file that has run for years under BBEdit (and TextWrangler before) has 
 quit 
 working. The script is invoked from within a file [fname].GEO by picking 
 the script from my scripts list in the BBEdit top bar. The script runs a 
 program that reads the [fname].GEO file.

 Now the script doesn't run. I get the message

 A scripting error has occurred:

 sh: /VCTTools/bat/hdbgsub.sh: No such file or directory

 This directory does exist. I uninstalled BBEdit and did a clean 
 reinstall. I had to contact BBEdit tech support in order to install the 
 Command Line Tools because old versions of the tools had to be removed 
 manually.

 I didn't write the original script. It was created by a colleague years 
 ago. BBEdit tech support recommended that I contact this group.

 Thanks,

 Neill Smith

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Re: Newbie problem - Tech support sent me here

2021-06-27 Thread 'Dmitry Markman' via BBEdit Talk 
as I said in my previous email

check com.apple.quarantine with xattr

if it’s there you should delete it with sudo xattr -d com.apple.quarantine 


also as Rich Siegel noticed you should avoid put links in / folder, however 
it’s possible, using /etc/synthetic.conf.

it’s not recommended, there are situations when you have to do that to avoid 
very expansive refactoring



dm

> On Jun 27, 2021, at 10:34 AM, Neill Smith  wrote:
> 
> I need to learn to proof better. I have read & write permissions on all files 
> and folders.
> 
> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 9:46:56 AM UTC-4 Neill Smith wrote:
> In response to Kreme earlier. I checked the permissions on\VCTTools using Get 
> Info. I have had & write permissions. Everyone else has read permissions. The 
> same permissions hold for the SH file hdbgsub.sh.
> 
> Is there some other way to check permissions other than Get Info?
> 
> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 9:38:16 AM UTC-4 Neill Smith wrote:
> 
> Yes it does exist.  I can open that file (and any other SH file) in 
> AppleScript and edit it. I can open it directly using BBEdit but of course it 
> looks like garbage.
> 
> This particular setup is from when my former company used Windows. On a WinPC 
> having VCTTools at c:\VCTTools on every computer meant anyone could add a new 
> tool (VCTTools was maintained in a SVN repository) to VCTTools and then 
> everyone could just update their VCTTools copy. No one had to edit paths for 
> their computer.
> 
> When we moved to MacOS, VCTTools was placed at the ROOT LEVEL to get the same 
> effect. Files within VCTTools have paths set under this assumption. If 
> VCTTools were a folder under a USER under MacOS, any one updating to the 
> newest version would have to go in and edit paths in a bunch of files.
> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 7:47:55 AM UTC-4 Ulrich Kapp wrote:
> Hi Neill,
> 
> Did you check whether the script file /VCTTools/bat/hdbgsub.sh does exist?
> 
> Ulrich
> 
> 
>> Am 27.06.2021 um 01:10 schrieb Neill Smith >:
>> 
> 
>> I recently upgraded  my macOS from High Sierra to Big Sur. A script file 
>> that has run for years under BBEdit (and TextWrangler before) has quit 
>> working. The script is invoked from within a file [fname].GEO by picking the 
>> script from my scripts list in the BBEdit top bar. The script runs a program 
>> that reads the [fname].GEO file.
>> 
>> Now the script doesn't run. I get the message
>> 
>> A scripting error has occurred:
>> 
>> sh: /VCTTools/bat/hdbgsub.sh: No such file or directory
>> 
>> This directory does exist. I uninstalled BBEdit and did a clean reinstall. I 
>> had to contact BBEdit tech support in order to install the Command Line 
>> Tools because old versions of the tools had to be removed manually.
>> 
>> I didn't write the original script. It was created by a colleague years ago. 
>> BBEdit tech support recommended that I contact this group.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Neill Smith
>> 
> 
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Re: Newbie problem - Tech support sent me here

2021-06-27 Thread Neill Smith 
I need to learn to proof better. I have read & write permissions on all 
files and folders.

On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 9:46:56 AM UTC-4 Neill Smith wrote:

> In response to Kreme earlier. I checked the permissions on\VCTTools using 
> Get Info. I have had & write permissions. Everyone else has read 
> permissions. The same permissions hold for the SH file hdbgsub.sh.
>
> Is there some other way to check permissions other than Get Info?
>
> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 9:38:16 AM UTC-4 Neill Smith wrote:
>
>>
>> Yes it does exist.  I can open that file (and any other SH file) in 
>> AppleScript and edit it. I can open it directly using BBEdit but of course 
>> it looks like garbage.
>>
>> This particular setup is from when my former company used Windows. On a 
>> WinPC having VCTTools at c:\VCTTools on every computer meant anyone could 
>> add a new tool (VCTTools was maintained in a SVN repository) to VCTTools 
>> and then everyone could just update their VCTTools copy. No one had to edit 
>> paths for their computer.
>>
>> When we moved to MacOS, VCTTools was placed at the ROOT LEVEL to get the 
>> same effect. Files within VCTTools have paths set under this assumption. If 
>> VCTTools were a folder under a USER under MacOS, any one updating to the 
>> newest version would have to go in and edit paths in a bunch of files.
>> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 7:47:55 AM UTC-4 Ulrich Kapp wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Neill,
>>>
>>> Did you check whether the script file /VCTTools/bat/hdbgsub.sh does 
>>> exist?
>>>
>>> Ulrich
>>>
>>> Am 27.06.2021 um 01:10 schrieb Neill Smith :
>>>
>>> I recently upgraded  my macOS from High Sierra to Big Sur. A script file 
>>> that has run for years under BBEdit (and TextWrangler before) has quit 
>>> working. The script is invoked from within a file [fname].GEO by picking 
>>> the script from my scripts list in the BBEdit top bar. The script runs a 
>>> program that reads the [fname].GEO file.
>>>
>>> Now the script doesn't run. I get the message
>>>
>>> A scripting error has occurred:
>>>
>>> sh: /VCTTools/bat/hdbgsub.sh: No such file or directory
>>>
>>> This directory does exist. I uninstalled BBEdit and did a clean 
>>> reinstall. I had to contact BBEdit tech support in order to install the 
>>> Command Line Tools because old versions of the tools had to be removed 
>>> manually.
>>>
>>> I didn't write the original script. It was created by a colleague years 
>>> ago. BBEdit tech support recommended that I contact this group.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Neill Smith
>>>
>>> -- 
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Re: Newbie problem - Tech support sent me here

2021-06-27 Thread Rich Siegel 

On 26 Jun 2021, at 19:10, Neill Smith wrote:


[...]
A scripting error has occurred:

sh: /VCTTools/bat/hdbgsub.sh: No such file or directory


What is the exact line of AppleScript that is failing? (You can find out 
by running the script in the Apple script editor or Script Debugger.)



This directory does exist.


My guess is that it would have to have been created quite a long time 
ago, because on any version of macOS 10.15 or later, "/" is a read-only 
file system.


Trying this now:

% mkdir -p /VCTTools/bat/
mkdir: /VCTTools/bat/: Read-only file system

I suspect that your script's inability to locate 
"/VCTTools/bat/hdbgsub.sh" is related to an intersection of the 
security-related file system changes and application sandboxing 
(specifically of the scripting system). Unfortunately I cannot speculate 
as to the precise cause without a lot more details.


Yes it does exist.  I can open that file (and any other SH file) in 
AppleScript and edit it. I can open it directly using BBEdit but of 
course it looks like garbage.


What does that mean, specifically? Are you using ".sh" as a filename 
extension for AppleScript files?


When we moved to MacOS, VCTTools was placed at the ROOT LEVEL to get 
the same effect. Files within VCTTools have paths set under this 
assumption.


I recommend reconsidering this decision, if possible. There are many 
global Unix directories available on macOS which are fit for purpose, 
none of which will get you tangled up in the macOS security model.


For example, you could mandate "/usr/local/VCTTools" as the "root" 
location when on macOS, and you'll get your desired behavior of being 
able to have a machine-wide installation. It might even solve your 
issue, although I unfortunately am still not clear on what the 
underlying cause actually is.


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Re: Newbie problem - Tech support sent me here

2021-06-27 Thread 'Dmitry Markman' via BBEdit Talk 
In order to create links to the folders in / directory

from terminal

man synthetic.conf

you’ll have to restart after editing/creation of the file /etc/synthetic.conf
make sure to use  instead of spaces (auto-expanded tabs option should be 
off)

you can check permission from terminal

ls -la 

you can also try xattr command, sometimes you can see attribute 
com.apple.quarantine is there
the you could delete it with

sudo xattr -d com.apple.quarantine 


hope it will help

dm


> On Jun 27, 2021, at 9:46 AM, Neill Smith  wrote:
> 
> In response to Kreme earlier. I checked the permissions on\VCTTools using Get 
> Info. I have had & write permissions. Everyone else has read permissions. The 
> same permissions hold for the SH file hdbgsub.sh.
> 
> Is there some other way to check permissions other than Get Info?
> 
> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 9:38:16 AM UTC-4 Neill Smith wrote:
> 
> Yes it does exist.  I can open that file (and any other SH file) in 
> AppleScript and edit it. I can open it directly using BBEdit but of course it 
> looks like garbage.
> 
> This particular setup is from when my former company used Windows. On a WinPC 
> having VCTTools at c:\VCTTools on every computer meant anyone could add a new 
> tool (VCTTools was maintained in a SVN repository) to VCTTools and then 
> everyone could just update their VCTTools copy. No one had to edit paths for 
> their computer.
> 
> When we moved to MacOS, VCTTools was placed at the ROOT LEVEL to get the same 
> effect. Files within VCTTools have paths set under this assumption. If 
> VCTTools were a folder under a USER under MacOS, any one updating to the 
> newest version would have to go in and edit paths in a bunch of files.
> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 7:47:55 AM UTC-4 Ulrich Kapp wrote:
> Hi Neill,
> 
> Did you check whether the script file /VCTTools/bat/hdbgsub.sh does exist?
> 
> Ulrich
> 
> 
>> Am 27.06.2021 um 01:10 schrieb Neill Smith >:
>> 
> 
>> I recently upgraded  my macOS from High Sierra to Big Sur. A script file 
>> that has run for years under BBEdit (and TextWrangler before) has quit 
>> working. The script is invoked from within a file [fname].GEO by picking the 
>> script from my scripts list in the BBEdit top bar. The script runs a program 
>> that reads the [fname].GEO file.
>> 
>> Now the script doesn't run. I get the message
>> 
>> A scripting error has occurred:
>> 
>> sh: /VCTTools/bat/hdbgsub.sh: No such file or directory
>> 
>> This directory does exist. I uninstalled BBEdit and did a clean reinstall. I 
>> had to contact BBEdit tech support in order to install the Command Line 
>> Tools because old versions of the tools had to be removed manually.
>> 
>> I didn't write the original script. It was created by a colleague years ago. 
>> BBEdit tech support recommended that I contact this group.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Neill Smith
>> 
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Re: Newbie problem - Tech support sent me here

2021-06-27 Thread Rich Rijnders 
You indicate that you jumped from High Sierra to Big Sur.  In between those 
was Catalina.  In that version Mac OS switched the default script shell 
from bash to zsh.  There *might* be an incompatibility in zsh causing your 
issue.  You can try changing the default shell back to bash or else you can 
modify your script to call bash explicitly.

ie: modify the HydroV_dbg.scpt script to do: 
   *do shell script "/bin/bash /VCTTools/bat/hdbgsub.sh"*

will execute the script in bash instead of zsh. 

If you want to modify Mac OS to permanently switch the default shell back 
to bash, there are plenty of pages to help you: 
  
 
https://www.howtogeek.com/444596/how-to-change-the-default-shell-to-bash-in-macos-catalina/


HTH
~ Rich

On Saturday, June 26, 2021 at 8:30:52 PM UTC-4 nssmi...@gmail.com wrote:

> I don't know how  /VCTTools got at the ROOT LEVEL. My company (dead 
> because of Covid) transitioned me from a WinPC to a MacBook Pro back in 
> 2010. All my various tools were translated to the Mac by our then computer 
> Guru. This is my 2nd Mac from 02/2017.  There are 2 scripts involved in 
> this process -- a SCPT file and a SH file.
>
> The script invoked from the BBEdit top bar (menu bar?) is HydroV_dbg.scpt 
> which resides in folder
> /Users/neillsmith/Library/Application Support/BBEdit/Scripts
>
> The HydroV_dbg.scpt file invokes the script hdbgsub.sh which resides in 
> folder
> /Volumes/Macintosh HD - Data/VCTTools/bat
>
> The file hdbgsub.sh is a translation of a BAT file hdbgsub.bat. This 
> hdbgsub.sh file is the one that invokes a compiled program that reads the 
> GEO file and executes it.
>
> I have no idea if my various tools have the correct permissions and I have 
> never heard of a quarantine bit.
>
> The only editing that I have ever done to these two tools was the SCPT 
> file. I changed all references to TextWrangler to BBEdit when I had to 
> upgrade to BBEdit.
>
> I am not AppleScript savy and I am not BBEdit script savy -- obviously.  I 
> avoided MacOS upgrades as long as I could because going from Sierra to High 
> Sierra was a royal pain. Back then I had knowledgeable coworkers to help me.
>
> Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Neill Smith
> On Saturday, June 26, 2021 at 7:54:41 PM UTC-4 kre...@kreme.com wrote:
>
>> On 26 Jun 2021, at 17:10, Neill Smith  wrote: 
>> > sh: /VCTTools/bat/hdbgsub.sh: No such file or directory 
>> > 
>> > This directory does exist. 
>>
>> Really? At the ROOT LEVEL of your computer there is a directory named 
>> /VCTTools/? How did you manage that? 
>>
>> Does the script hdbgsub.sh exist in that folder? 
>>
>> Does whatever tool you are invoking have permission to access that 
>> script? 
>>
>> Has the quarantine bit on the script be checked? 
>>
>> Big Sur is much much more secure than High Sierra, and running "unknown" 
>> scripts is part of that security. 
>>
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>>
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Re: Newbie problem - Tech support sent me here

2021-06-27 Thread Neill Smith 
In response to Kreme earlier. I checked the permissions on\VCTTools using 
Get Info. I have had & write permissions. Everyone else has read 
permissions. The same permissions hold for the SH file hdbgsub.sh.

Is there some other way to check permissions other than Get Info?

On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 9:38:16 AM UTC-4 Neill Smith wrote:

>
> Yes it does exist.  I can open that file (and any other SH file) in 
> AppleScript and edit it. I can open it directly using BBEdit but of course 
> it looks like garbage.
>
> This particular setup is from when my former company used Windows. On a 
> WinPC having VCTTools at c:\VCTTools on every computer meant anyone could 
> add a new tool (VCTTools was maintained in a SVN repository) to VCTTools 
> and then everyone could just update their VCTTools copy. No one had to edit 
> paths for their computer.
>
> When we moved to MacOS, VCTTools was placed at the ROOT LEVEL to get the 
> same effect. Files within VCTTools have paths set under this assumption. If 
> VCTTools were a folder under a USER under MacOS, any one updating to the 
> newest version would have to go in and edit paths in a bunch of files.
> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 7:47:55 AM UTC-4 Ulrich Kapp wrote:
>
>> Hi Neill,
>>
>> Did you check whether the script file /VCTTools/bat/hdbgsub.sh does exist?
>>
>> Ulrich
>>
>> Am 27.06.2021 um 01:10 schrieb Neill Smith :
>>
>> I recently upgraded  my macOS from High Sierra to Big Sur. A script file 
>> that has run for years under BBEdit (and TextWrangler before) has quit 
>> working. The script is invoked from within a file [fname].GEO by picking 
>> the script from my scripts list in the BBEdit top bar. The script runs a 
>> program that reads the [fname].GEO file.
>>
>> Now the script doesn't run. I get the message
>>
>> A scripting error has occurred:
>>
>> sh: /VCTTools/bat/hdbgsub.sh: No such file or directory
>>
>> This directory does exist. I uninstalled BBEdit and did a clean 
>> reinstall. I had to contact BBEdit tech support in order to install the 
>> Command Line Tools because old versions of the tools had to be removed 
>> manually.
>>
>> I didn't write the original script. It was created by a colleague years 
>> ago. BBEdit tech support recommended that I contact this group.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Neill Smith
>>
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Re: Newbie problem - Tech support sent me here

2021-06-27 Thread Neill Smith 

Yes it does exist.  I can open that file (and any other SH file) in 
AppleScript and edit it. I can open it directly using BBEdit but of course 
it looks like garbage.

This particular setup is from when my former company used Windows. On a 
WinPC having VCTTools at c:\VCTTools on every computer meant anyone could 
add a new tool (VCTTools was maintained in a SVN repository) to VCTTools 
and then everyone could just update their VCTTools copy. No one had to edit 
paths for their computer.

When we moved to MacOS, VCTTools was placed at the ROOT LEVEL to get the 
same effect. Files within VCTTools have paths set under this assumption. If 
VCTTools were a folder under a USER under MacOS, any one updating to the 
newest version would have to go in and edit paths in a bunch of files.
On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 7:47:55 AM UTC-4 Ulrich Kapp wrote:

> Hi Neill,
>
> Did you check whether the script file /VCTTools/bat/hdbgsub.sh does exist?
>
> Ulrich
>
> Am 27.06.2021 um 01:10 schrieb Neill Smith :
>
> I recently upgraded  my macOS from High Sierra to Big Sur. A script file 
> that has run for years under BBEdit (and TextWrangler before) has quit 
> working. The script is invoked from within a file [fname].GEO by picking 
> the script from my scripts list in the BBEdit top bar. The script runs a 
> program that reads the [fname].GEO file.
>
> Now the script doesn't run. I get the message
>
> A scripting error has occurred:
>
> sh: /VCTTools/bat/hdbgsub.sh: No such file or directory
>
> This directory does exist. I uninstalled BBEdit and did a clean reinstall. 
> I had to contact BBEdit tech support in order to install the Command Line 
> Tools because old versions of the tools had to be removed manually.
>
> I didn't write the original script. It was created by a colleague years 
> ago. BBEdit tech support recommended that I contact this group.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Neill Smith
>
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Re: Newbie problem - Tech support sent me here

2021-06-27 Thread eu...@gmx.de 
Hi Neill,

Did you check whether the script file /VCTTools/bat/hdbgsub.sh does exist?

Ulrich

> Am 27.06.2021 um 01:10 schrieb Neill Smith :
> 
> I recently upgraded  my macOS from High Sierra to Big Sur. A script file that 
> has run for years under BBEdit (and TextWrangler before) has quit working. 
> The script is invoked from within a file [fname].GEO by picking the script 
> from my scripts list in the BBEdit top bar. The script runs a program that 
> reads the [fname].GEO file.
> 
> Now the script doesn't run. I get the message
> 
> A scripting error has occurred:
> 
> sh: /VCTTools/bat/hdbgsub.sh: No such file or directory
> 
> This directory does exist. I uninstalled BBEdit and did a clean reinstall. I 
> had to contact BBEdit tech support in order to install the Command Line Tools 
> because old versions of the tools had to be removed manually.
> 
> I didn't write the original script. It was created by a colleague years ago. 
> BBEdit tech support recommended that I contact this group.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Neill Smith
> 
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Re: Newbie problem - Tech support sent me here

2021-06-26 Thread Neill Smith 
I don't know how  /VCTTools got at the ROOT LEVEL. My company (dead because 
of Covid) transitioned me from a WinPC to a MacBook Pro back in 2010. All 
my various tools were translated to the Mac by our then computer Guru. This 
is my 2nd Mac from 02/2017.  There are 2 scripts involved in this process 
-- a SCPT file and a SH file.

The script invoked from the BBEdit top bar (menu bar?) is HydroV_dbg.scpt 
which resides in folder
/Users/neillsmith/Library/Application Support/BBEdit/Scripts

The HydroV_dbg.scpt file invokes the script hdbgsub.sh which resides in 
folder
/Volumes/Macintosh HD - Data/VCTTools/bat

The file hdbgsub.sh is a translation of a BAT file hdbgsub.bat. This 
hdbgsub.sh file is the one that invokes a compiled program that reads the 
GEO file and executes it.

I have no idea if my various tools have the correct permissions and I have 
never heard of a quarantine bit.

The only editing that I have ever done to these two tools was the SCPT 
file. I changed all references to TextWrangler to BBEdit when I had to 
upgrade to BBEdit.

I am not AppleScript savy and I am not BBEdit script savy -- obviously.  I 
avoided MacOS upgrades as long as I could because going from Sierra to High 
Sierra was a royal pain. Back then I had knowledgeable coworkers to help me.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Neill Smith
On Saturday, June 26, 2021 at 7:54:41 PM UTC-4 kre...@kreme.com wrote:

> On 26 Jun 2021, at 17:10, Neill Smith  wrote:
> > sh: /VCTTools/bat/hdbgsub.sh: No such file or directory
> > 
> > This directory does exist. 
>
> Really? At the ROOT LEVEL of your computer there is a directory named 
> /VCTTools/? How did you manage that?
>
> Does the script hdbgsub.sh exist in that folder?
>
> Does whatever tool you are invoking have permission to access that script?
>
> Has the quarantine bit on the script be checked?
>
> Big Sur is much much more secure than High Sierra, and running "unknown" 
> scripts is part of that security.
>
> -- 
> Everywhere is walking distance if you have the time.
>
>

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Re: Newbie problem - Tech support sent me here

2021-06-26 Thread @lbutlr 
On 26 Jun 2021, at 17:10, Neill Smith  wrote:
> sh: /VCTTools/bat/hdbgsub.sh: No such file or directory
> 
> This directory does exist. 

Really? At the ROOT LEVEL of your computer there is a directory named 
/VCTTools/? How did you manage that?

Does the script hdbgsub.sh exist in that folder?

Does whatever tool you are invoking have permission to access that script?

Has the quarantine bit on the script be checked?

Big Sur is much much more secure than High Sierra, and running "unknown" 
scripts is part of that security.

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Newbie problem - Tech support sent me here

2021-06-26 Thread Neill Smith 
I recently upgraded  my macOS from High Sierra to Big Sur. A script file 
that has run for years under BBEdit (and TextWrangler before) has quit 
working. The script is invoked from within a file [fname].GEO by picking 
the script from my scripts list in the BBEdit top bar. The script runs a 
program that reads the [fname].GEO file.

Now the script doesn't run. I get the message

A scripting error has occurred:

sh: /VCTTools/bat/hdbgsub.sh: No such file or directory

This directory does exist. I uninstalled BBEdit and did a clean reinstall. 
I had to contact BBEdit tech support in order to install the Command Line 
Tools because old versions of the tools had to be removed manually.

I didn't write the original script. It was created by a colleague years 
ago. BBEdit tech support recommended that I contact this group.

Thanks,

Neill Smith

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