Re: Earth Crash
We recently had an ex genetic biotech scientist give a talk in our district and he predicted that in about the thirty year span that G.E. crops would cause massive starvation on a scale that the Earth has not previously experinced. In world summit that is currently being held in Johanesberg, S.A. It is expected that the Biotech lobby will be presenting themselves as the the susstainable future for feeding the world!! - Original Message - From: "Patti Berg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "bdnow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 11:25 AM Subject: Earth Crash > At risk of sounding like a doomsdayer, I found an interesting article on > the net regarding the future of this planet of which I'll post an > excerpt below. You can read the whole thing at > http://www.eces.org/ec/ecosystems/global.shtml > > Earth Crash > > Documenting the Collapse of a Dying Planet > > Ecosystem Destruction: Global > > (05/22/2002) UN report by 1,100 scientists > warns 70% of the natural world will be > destroyed > over the 30 years due to over-population, > deforestation, pollution, global warming, > spread of > non-native species, and other human impacts, > causing the mass extinction of species and the > collapse of human society in many countries. > The > destruction of 70 percent of the natural world > in 30 > years, mass extinction of species, and the > collapse of > human society in many countries is forecast in > a bleak > report by 1100 scientists. The world is at an > environmental crossroads where the choice > between > greed and the future of life on Earth will > decide the fate > of millions of people for decades to come, > according to a > new United Nations Environment Program (UNEP) > report. > The Global Environment Outlook-3 (Geo-3) report > sees a > bleak outlook for the future unless radical > action is taken > now. "The choices made today are critical for > the > forests, oceans, rivers, mountains, wildlife > and other life > support systems upon which current and future > generations depend," it said. > > The GEO-3 report' bleak findings are cast in a > manner > that is rarely seen in United Nations reports - > with no > path leading to a good result. Even under > scenarios in > which environmental protection becomes a high > priority, > it says, most regions of the world will still > see their > biological diversity and coastal ecosystems > badly > damaged by 2032. >
ELAIN INGHAM'S BUCKET CT BREWER was Re: Taking Another Step
>hi merla, could you share with the rest what link for beginners you have for >the simple aerator for the 5 gallon bucket. http://www.taunton.com/finegardening/pages/g00030.asp The above article originally appeared in Tauton's KITCHEN GARDENER magazine. I've used the directions here. It works for me. I believe that Dan Lynch has expanded on the ideas in this article and that it's been working for him (muck bucket-scale) It's a great example of just how much Elaine Ingham is willing to share with growers, regardless of their income or ambitions. She's very motivated to healing the earth from her own background and point of view. What if, in the future, every tea brewer was perking a unit of BC along with other goodies? Please plan to come and support her as she makes her first serious foray into progressive biodynamics at the Mid-Atlantic Biodynamic Food and Farming Conference, Oct 4-6 in Lovettsville, VA. Http://www.gardningforthefuture.com (And thanks to Sharon for planning to register in advance!!) -Allan
Re: earth closet: composting toilets are easier and better
http://www.weblife.org/humanure/default.html
Re: War on Iraq? Not so fast
To err is human - to forgive, divine ;) Though however the name may change, the lesson remains the same, wouldn't you say? roger mroboz wrote: >Roger-Milosovich was from Yugoslavia, not Hungary. Michael > >- Original Message - > People-power is a lot more effective than >politicians think. It was > >>people-power that swept Milosevich from Hungary's top job. 12% of the >>population shouting 'STOP" is an unstoppable force. Without weapons, at >>that. >>
Re: Weeds
Rex Tyler wrote: >great to hear that, at last someone knows what he's talking about I have >studied so called wild plants for years and eaten many of them as food >at last some light! > Rex, has your study revealed to you any characteristics of plants, wild or otherwise, which could be of use in demonstrating that the usefulness of them goes beyond the accepted or expected? For example, serrated tussock, a fibrous grass which originated in South America, is classified as a noxious weed in South Africa, New Zealand, Australia and the United States. The reason for the classification is that stock animals will only eat it as a last resort (ie, when there is nothing else edible at all) and then because of its composition (about 92% fibre + 4% protein + 4% moisture) they cannot draw enough sustenance from it to maintain life no matter how much they consume. In some animals, the fibre blocks the gut preventing anything else from going through. But that's the 'downside' - and in this case, the downside is a killer; ST is the Number One noxious weed in Oz, kill on sight etc. (Makes little difference, the chemicals used, which include Roundup, only kill the current plant, have no effect on the seed bed, and each mature plant can dump 100,000 seeds a season which may remain dormant for up to 40+ years. BD ST peppers have been shown to do a better job.) The 'upside' is that ST is a fantastic erosion-stopper - a ground cover which will grow in the poorest soils, protect and hold them together. It also makes great mulch. Incidentally, it's inhibited by common gorse (ulex europa), another noxious weed; the two will not grow together. I have an embryo plants resource reference (currently in Excel) which I am putting together using information gleaned from all over the place.To name a few - the Ohio Plant Dictionary, http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/, http://www.geocities.com/nutriflip/Naturopathy/, books about herbs & weeds, Culpeper's original writings and so on. There are currently 500 plants in there. Some of the info's pretty sketchy. This is the type of info I'm aiming for : Common Name - Burdock; Botanical Name - Arctium Lappa; Other Names; Planet - Venus; Treatment For or Uses - Acne,Gout,Arthritis,Eczema,Blood Purifier,Itch,Uric Acid,Builds Liver Health,skin diseases, flu, tonsilitis; Description - A rapid blood purifier, a diuretic, and good for ulcers. Aids the pituitary gland, keeps waste moving out of a weak body, and expels kidney and bladder stones. Reduces calcium deposits in the joints. Banana Peel - Fixes phosphorus, potash. Bury around rose bushes for stunning blooms.. Canada Thistle - growth inhibited by alfalfa, red clover. Assist inhibition by clipping thistle growth thrice per growing season. Sunflower - this plant has been sown thickly in radiation-affected areas around Chernobyl. Believed to absorb radiation components such as strontium and break down into harmless substances. Tall fescue - grass native to Southern Canada. Absorbs petro-chemical wastes and converts them as above. I welcome any info on plants regardless of whether they are classified as 'weeds' or not. roger
Re: [globalnews] War on Iraq? Not so fast
Hi David, I agree that my comparison was insulting to the snakes, and I am not promoting war, which is always an indication of the failure of more rational methods of problem solving. I am not even a Bush fan. If I lived in the US I would have voted democrat. What I do say, is that in this less-than-perfect world there are times when pre-emptive strikes are necessary, and even desirable, rather than risk a far worse outcome. As for spin doctors, they work on both sides. Hitler, Goebbels et al were all masters at propaganda, as Hussein also seems to be. And we as individuals simply do not have the reliable information needed to make these difficult decisions. If military action is contemplated, whether 'declared' or not, then secrecy is essential. I grew up in London during WW11 and remember everywhere signs saying "loose lips sink ships" and the like. If a pre-emptive strike is made against Iraq, which seems likely, what would we think if after it weapons of mass destruction were found there in an advanced state of development? Remember, Hussein like Hitler is a megalomaniac, and as such he is very likely to use such weapons. Don > From: "D & S Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 11:27:23 +1000 > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [globalnews] War on Iraq? Not so fast > > Don: I live where there are numerous varieties of poisonous snakes most of > which have their myths on their power to strike and bite. My experience with > them is that in most cases they just want to go about their business and > help me by eating the mice and rats. > > Occasionally we do kill one that gets into our "living room" but we don't > run around slaughtering them all, just in case they do come into our "living > room" > > We will never know the what the outcome of Churchill's plan. Not all of his > plans were as good as we are wont to remember, the outcome could have been > worse. > > Can you or any of us believe what the spin doctors feed us? Right now there > are reports that the invasion has begun, yet our erstwhile leaders are > denying this, why? If it is so then the Iraqi's would certainly know about > it, so it can't be security reasons. It can only be an attempt to mislead > our own people. > > Sorry I can't trust liars, who wish to kill thousands of people for dubious > reasons. Then again I suppose they are just Iraqis not Americans so it is > probably OK. > David C > > - Original Message - > From: "Eve Cruse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, 25 August 2002 3:08 AM > Subject: Re: [globalnews] War on Iraq? Not so fast > > >> >> >>> From: Roger Pye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Organization: Earthcare Environmental Solutions >>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 11:05:57 +1000 >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Subject: Re: FW: [globalnews] War on Iraq? Not so fast >>> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> Why suppress the inevitable. All sides in power want the war. The > powers that be want the war. The steps are in motion already. On some level > the war has already begun. Bring it on, let's get it over with. SStorch >> I have been following this debate, and it leads me to the following >> thoughts: Reverence for life is a most worthy principle which asks of us, >> as Tolkien put it, that we "do not destroy that which we cannot create." >> >> Most people, however draw the line somewhere in its application. What, for >> example, would you allow to establish a habitat in your living room? > Flies? >> Mice or Rats? How about an Egyptian Krat, a small and very poisonous snake >> that coils into a spring and can leap ten feet? Now, in our 'global > village' >> everything is, in a sense, in our living room. >> >> Hitler was a Krat, and Neville Chamberlin tried to find room for him in >> Europe by 'turning the other cheek'. No doubt Chamberlin was, in this >> respect at least, a better Christian than Churchill. On the the other hand >> if Churchill had been allowed to confront Hitler earlier, as he very much >> wanted to do, perhaps WWII might have been averted and millions of lives >> saved. >> >> Now, is Saddam Hussein a Krat? Yes, you may bet your life that he is. >> >> Don >> >> >> >> > >
Re: ELAIN INGHAM'S BUCKET CT BREWER was Re: Taking Another Step
hi allen , i went there and read about how they make their compost, saw pictures of a device on a bucket, but no actual instructions on making or buying one., i'll try calling them tomorrow. check's in the mail this weekend. p.s. i never turn my compost, it's too large a job, but build the windrow carefully , use animal manures and it ages for at least 6 months before use. will brinton in a past article in the bd journal had a great article on that.issue. :)sharon. - Original Message - From: "Allan Balliett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 6:46 AM Subject: ELAIN INGHAM'S BUCKET CT BREWER was Re: Taking Another Step > >hi merla, could you share with the rest what link for beginners you have for > >the simple aerator for the 5 gallon bucket. > > http://www.taunton.com/finegardening/pages/g00030.asp > > The above article originally appeared in Tauton's KITCHEN GARDENER > magazine. I've used the directions here. It works for me. I believe > that Dan Lynch has expanded on the ideas in this article and that > it's been working for him (muck bucket-scale) > > It's a great example of just how much Elaine Ingham is willing to > share with growers, regardless of their income or ambitions. She's > very motivated to healing the earth from her own background and point > of view. What if, in the future, every tea brewer was perking a unit > of BC along with other goodies? > > Please plan to come and support her as she makes her first serious > foray into progressive biodynamics at the Mid-Atlantic Biodynamic > Food and Farming Conference, Oct 4-6 in Lovettsville, VA. > Http://www.gardningforthefuture.com (And thanks to Sharon for > planning to register in advance!!) > > -Allan > > >
Re: [globalnews] War on Iraq? Not so fast
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Dear List Members, I decided to gather all the thoughts and phrases that would convey some sort of wisdom on them and unite them in a little booklet. By doing that I will be connected not only to the authors by also to the contributors who have send them . If you have any one you think I can use please right me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I appreciate any help I can get and thank you in antecipation. jose Some samples : 1. Only the small secrets need to be protected. The big ones are kept secret by public incredulity.Marshall McLuhan 2. " In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice, there is". Author Unknown 3. Just cooperate and everything will be OK: The Authorities 4. "Every man takes the limits of its own field of vision for the limits of the world" Arthur Schopenhauer
Re: ELAIN INGHAM'S BUCKET CT BREWER was Re: Taking Another Step
>hi allen , i went there and read about how they make their compost, saw >pictures of a device on a bucket, but no actual instructions on making or >buying one., If you are talking about the CT brewer, did you go to the subsequent pages or just stay on the first one? The article gives all the details necessary to brew tea in a 5gal plastic pail
Re: ELAIN INGHAM'S BUCKET CT BREWER was Re: Taking Another Step
http://www.dep.state.pa.us/dep/deputate/airwaste/wm/recycle/Tea/tea1.htm Another set of instructions. It is also well worth while to buy Elaine's Compost Tea Manual, www.soilfoodweb.com
water, war, present times, the future
I did my usual routine this morning, fed the cows and went to the coffee shop at the edge of the farm [how convenient]. I got my cuppa and sat in my ''spot" in the corner by the window. It was still early and the Sunday papers were still being assembled. I don't like to read the paper, so I just through over a casual glance and something on the most important slot on the cover of the NY Times caught my eye. A color photo of some farm fields and the headline "In the Race to Tap Euphrates, the Upper Hand is Upstream" got my attention. As I read about the area that is the fertile crescent, the birthplace of modern agriculture that occurred 5000 years ago, it struck me as ironic that history is repeating itself in this way, in these times. It was after all the embattlement over water that ended the incredible reign of prosperity that this region enjoyed. So many millenia later the scenario repeats, the names of the countries are different and the weapions will be different but what is at stake is basically the same. Add technology with greed and ambition and the three or four nations on this river want to pump 50- 60 billion gallons of water from a river that flows about 35 billion gallons. Doesn't add up. This is a crisis and a cenario playing out all over the world. Right here on Long Island, a small island in the Peconic Bay, Shelter Island, has run out of water. People have to go to the high school and shower by water that is trucked onto the island, restaurants are closed. Nobody seems upset by this, not yet. So, in my head I connect all these events, water, war, pollution, Israel, Hussein, Bush. I still think that people are going to die. Lots of people. I do not want them to, but the reality is they will die. They are dying of starvation, they are dying of thirst, dying of AIDS, and dying of cancer. We are dying at the hands of fellow man. We will fight eachother for the last drop of water. It could be the way the war of all against all is going to start. So my statement the other day to bring on the other phase of the war still stands. I feel strongly that we must move on. Of course innocent people will die, but they suffer so that we may live a cushy life in the USA. Heck, I spend more on gas for my truck than they spend on food for their family. It is too bad. It is not right. Even in the way I consciously choose to live and make the healing of the Earth and people my priority I cannot help but feel that the lives that are going to be sacrificed in the near future will help clear the ether and usher in a new age of peace and the Christed Consciousness and prosperity, such that the Earth will shine like a bright star out into the cosmos and the people of the earth will vibrate to a higher vibration in the fourth dimension of planet Earth. Something is coming down the pike, I hope we can handle what it is ''we'' have been called upon to do...SStorch
Re: Field Broadcaster//Insect and weed peppers
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Re: [globalnews] War on Iraq? Not so fast
Isn't this a case of the pot calling the kettle black? Which country in the world has the most weapons of mass destruction? Which country has initiated the most strikes on other nations? Why havn't other countries initiated pre emptive strikes on U.S.A.??? Peter.
Re: metal trellis for grapes
While I havn't seen metal trellises for grapes I have seen them for apples. The incidence of fire blight seems to increase. There could be several reasons for this or a combination of any or all of them. It could be that the apples trees are tied down to firmly, It could be that the wires are gathering earth or atmospheric energy that is producing an unwanted current through the plants. It could be that the current(s) that naturaly flow through the plant are inhibeted by the change in form and the contact with so many wires. One also needs to consider that grapes are a vine and have a different growth habit. Peter. - Original Message - From: "Gil Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 11:22 AM Subject: Re: metal trellis for grapes > Hi! Sharon, > Yes, > I actually have a set of moulds that make eight fence posts at a time and two > sets of strainer post moulds, but not used them. > > Good Point. > > In twenty six years, we are on our third round of steel droppers in the fence > lines. while Galv strainers are fine. > > Gil > > kentjamescarson wrote: > > > dear gil,have you ever thought about using concrete posts? we've made > > our own here in the garden, and a local vineyard has acres of them. lasts > > forever.:)sharon > > - Original Message - >
Re: Weeds
If the plant you are refering to is also called "pampas grass" in New Zealand, it is a brilliant storm shelter plant, cattle love it and is unequalled as pig shelter. When composted it demonstrates its capacity as a phosphorus accumulator. This could be why it grows so prolifically on phosphorus deficient soils. Negatives: older bushes burn with a fierce heat and is very difficult to extinguish - Original Message - From: "Roger Pye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 1:15 AM Subject: Re: Weeds > Rex Tyler wrote: > > >great to hear that, at last someone knows what he's talking about I have > >studied so called wild plants for years and eaten many of them as food > >at last some light! > > > Rex, has your study revealed to you any characteristics of plants, wild > or otherwise, which could be of use in demonstrating that the usefulness > of them goes beyond the accepted or expected? For example, serrated > tussock, a fibrous grass which originated in South America, is > classified as a noxious weed in South Africa, New Zealand, Australia and > the United States. The reason for the classification is that stock > animals will only eat it as a last resort (ie, when there is nothing > else edible at all) and then because of its composition (about 92% fibre > + 4% protein + 4% moisture) they cannot draw enough sustenance from it > to maintain life no matter how much they consume. In some animals, the > fibre blocks the gut preventing anything else from going through. > > But that's the 'downside' - and in this case, the downside is a killer; > ST is the Number One noxious weed in Oz, kill on sight etc. (Makes > little difference, the chemicals used, which include Roundup, only kill > the current plant, have no effect on the seed bed, and each mature plant > can dump 100,000 seeds a season which may remain dormant for up to 40+ > years. BD ST peppers have been shown to do a better job.) > > The 'upside' is that ST is a fantastic erosion-stopper - a ground cover > which will grow in the poorest soils, protect and hold them together. It > also makes great mulch. Incidentally, it's inhibited by common gorse > (ulex europa), another noxious weed; the two will not grow together. > > I have an embryo plants resource reference (currently in Excel) which I > am putting together using information gleaned from all over the place.To > name a few - the Ohio Plant Dictionary, > http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/, > http://www.geocities.com/nutriflip/Naturopathy/, books about herbs & > weeds, Culpeper's original writings and so on. There are currently 500 > plants in there. Some of the info's pretty sketchy. This is the type of > info I'm aiming for : Common Name - Burdock; > Botanical Name - Arctium Lappa; > Other Names; > Planet - Venus; > Treatment For or Uses - Acne,Gout,Arthritis,Eczema,Blood > Purifier,Itch,Uric Acid,Builds Liver Health,skin diseases, flu, tonsilitis; > Description - A rapid blood purifier, a diuretic, and good for ulcers. > Aids the pituitary gland, keeps waste moving out of a weak body, and > expels kidney and bladder stones. Reduces calcium deposits in the joints. > > Banana Peel - Fixes phosphorus, potash. Bury around rose bushes for > stunning blooms.. > > Canada Thistle - growth inhibited by alfalfa, red clover. Assist > inhibition by clipping thistle growth thrice per growing season. > > Sunflower - this plant has been sown thickly in radiation-affected areas > around Chernobyl. Believed to absorb radiation components such as > strontium and break down into harmless substances. > > Tall fescue - grass native to Southern Canada. Absorbs petro-chemical > wastes and converts them as above. > > I welcome any info on plants regardless of whether they are classified > as 'weeds' or not. > > roger >
Re: Field Broadcaster//Insect and weed peppers
>Actually, I do know one other person who made a pepper - the person >to whom I donated my first field broadcaster when I upgraded - and >she, in fact, made a Japanese beetle pepper. She lives about 10 >miles from me. I'll check with her to see what happened, and will >let you know. Looking forward to hearing about this, Essie! Thanks for your post. -Allan
Re: water, war, present times, the future
I heard last week that a major river in Utah had 'dried up' and 50 (or was it 500??) farms are without irrigation. -Allan
Re: [globalnews] War on Iraq? Not so fast
In a message dated 8/25/02 8:02:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Why havn't other countries initiated pre emptive strikes on U.S.A.??? Peter. >> They finally did Peter. Though BinLaden is a rogue, a man without a country he represents the way things will be done to deal with a power like the usa. If I understand correctly, BinLaden, unlike Bush, has openly declared war...sstorch
Re: water, war, present times, the future
I think you are in the wrong job, anyone who can use Christ Consciousness to justify war should be working for G.W. Bush, I suggest you check what they are putting in your coffee. David C - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, 26 August 2002 8:32 AM Subject: water, war, present times, the future > I did my usual routine this morning, fed the cows and went to the coffee shop > at the edge of the farm [how convenient]. I got my cuppa and sat in my > ''spot" in the corner by the window. It was still early and the Sunday > papers were still being assembled. I don't like to read the paper, so I just > through over a casual glance and something on the most important slot on the > cover of the NY Times caught my eye. A color photo of some farm fields and > the headline "In the Race to Tap Euphrates, the Upper Hand is Upstream" got > my attention. As I read about the area that is the fertile crescent, the > birthplace of modern agriculture that occurred 5000 years ago, it struck me > as ironic that history is repeating itself in this way, in these times. It > was after all the embattlement over water that ended the incredible reign of > prosperity that this region enjoyed. So many millenia later the scenario > repeats, the names of the countries are different and the weapions will be > different but what is at stake is basically the same. Add technology with > greed and ambition and the three or four nations on this river want to pump > 50- 60 billion gallons of water from a river that flows about 35 billion > gallons. Doesn't add up. This is a crisis and a cenario playing out all > over the world. Right here on Long Island, a small island in the Peconic > Bay, Shelter Island, has run out of water. People have to go to the high > school and shower by water that is trucked onto the island, restaurants are > closed. Nobody seems upset by this, not yet. So, in my head I connect all > these events, water, war, pollution, Israel, Hussein, Bush. I still think > that people are going to die. Lots of people. I do not want them to, but > the reality is they will die. They are dying of starvation, they are dying > of thirst, dying of AIDS, and dying of cancer. We are dying at the hands of > fellow man. We will fight eachother for the last drop of water. It could be > the way the war of all against all is going to start. So my statement the > other day to bring on the other phase of the war still stands. I feel > strongly that we must move on. Of course innocent people will die, but they > suffer so that we may live a cushy life in the USA. Heck, I spend more on > gas for my truck than they spend on food for their family. It is too bad. > It is not right. Even in the way I consciously choose to live and make the > healing of the Earth and people my priority I cannot help but feel that the > lives that are going to be sacrificed in the near future will help clear the > ether and usher in a new age of peace and the Christed Consciousness and > prosperity, such that the Earth will shine like a bright star out into the > cosmos and the people of the earth will vibrate to a higher vibration in the > fourth dimension of planet Earth. Something is coming down the pike, I hope > we can handle what it is ''we'' have been called upon to do...SStorch > >
Re: [globalnews] War on Iraq? Not so fast
- Original Message - From: "Eve Cruse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, 26 August 2002 12:40 AM Subject: Re: [globalnews] War on Iraq? Not so fast > Hi David, > > I agree that my comparison was insulting < to the snakes, and I am not > promoting war, which is always an indication of the failure of more rational > methods of problem solving. I am not even a Bush fan. If I lived in the US I > would have voted democrat. > > What I do say, is that in this less-than-perfect world there are times when > pre-emptive strikes are necessary, and even desirable, rather than risk a > far worse outcome. Pre-emptive strikes, motivated by fear of the unknown, that kill the innocent are murder, War is not the sanitised pictures you see on TV or the Stallone bullshit Hollywood loves, it's coming too after the explosion, laying in your own shit and slowly realising that the mud on your face is your best friends guts. War is little kids petrified with fear and screaming, screaming and screaming because their mother was just blown apart in front of them. War is pieces of little kids all around you. Ask a vet of front line action, war doesn't hurt the leaders who start them only the little people who have no say. > As for spin doctors, they work on both sides. Hitler, Goebbels et al were > all masters at propaganda, as Hussein also seems to be. And we as > individuals simply do not have the reliable information needed to make the difficult decisions. > > If military action is contemplated, whether 'declared' or not, then secrecy > is essential. I grew up in London during WW11 and remember everywhere signs saying "loose lips sink ships" and the like. And it also was used to cover the stuff ups, the time you speak of was different to now, there was in fact a war on, now we are being manipulated by all manner of interests who claim knowledge without producing the evidence, secretcy is the wall they hide behind. > If a pre-emptive strike is made against Iraq, which seems likely, what would > we think if after it weapons of mass destruction were found there in an > advanced state of development? Remember, Hussein like Hitler is a > megalomaniac, and as such he is very likely to use such weapons. > > Don > More to the point what if there were no weapons of mass destruction? All just bad luck? Do you think we would be told the truth? In the overall scheme of things Hussein is a piss ant, if they so badly want to take him out then turn their resources to getting just him, don't slaughter the innocent as well. David C > > > > > From: "D & S Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 11:27:23 +1000 > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [globalnews] War on Iraq? Not so fast > > > > Don: I live where there are numerous varieties of poisonous snakes most of > > which have their myths on their power to strike and bite. My experience with > > them is that in most cases they just want to go about their business and > > help me by eating the mice and rats. > > > > Occasionally we do kill one that gets into our "living room" but we don't > > run around slaughtering them all, just in case they do come into our "living > > room" > > > > We will never know the what the outcome of Churchill's plan. Not all of his > > plans were as good as we are wont to remember, the outcome could have been > > worse. > > > > Can you or any of us believe what the spin doctors feed us? Right now there > > are reports that the invasion has begun, yet our erstwhile leaders are > > denying this, why? If it is so then the Iraqi's would certainly know about > > it, so it can't be security reasons. It can only be an attempt to mislead > > our own people. > > > > Sorry I can't trust liars, who wish to kill thousands of people for dubious > > reasons. Then again I suppose they are just Iraqis not Americans so it is > > probably OK. > > David C > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Eve Cruse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Sunday, 25 August 2002 3:08 AM > > Subject: Re: [globalnews] War on Iraq? Not so fast > > > > > >> > >> > >>> From: Roger Pye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> Organization: Earthcare Environmental Solutions > >>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 11:05:57 +1000 > >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> Subject: Re: FW: [globalnews] War on Iraq? Not so fast > >>> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> > Why suppress the inevitable. All sides in power want the war. The > > powers > that be want the war. The steps are in motion already. On some level > > the > war has already begun. Bring it on, let's get it over with. > SStorch > > >> I have been following this debate, and it leads me to the following > >> thoughts: Reverence for life is a most worthy principle which asks of us, > >> as Tolkien put it, that we "do not destroy that which we cannot create." > >> > >> Most people, howev
ReOFF/ : [globalnews] War on Iraq? Not so fast
Please note a few things: 1. The US controls the UN. So, who decides to bomb who? 2. The latest treaty to serve the Internation War Court is NOT supported by the US, along with a only a few other countries. Why? They'd be hauling American generals and presidents by the dozen. So, Might is Right. 3. The victims of 9/11 were NOT allowed to sue the American Gov't. Why was that? Michael - Original Message - From: "Peter Michael Bacchus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 1:07 PM Subject: Re: [globalnews] War on Iraq? Not so fast > Isn't this a case of the pot calling the kettle black? Which country in the > world has the most weapons of mass destruction? Which country has initiated > the most strikes on other nations? Why havn't other countries initiated pre > emptive strikes on U.S.A.??? > Peter. > > >
Re: From Global News: the unknown God(dess) & a test
Patti Berg wrote: >Hello, > >Over the summer, I have been trying to learn what biodynamics is. At >first I thought it was a method of farming, but I read evidence that it >may possibly be a religion. > >I have read on the list that some believe there are fairies in the >forest helping them in their endeavors. Others practice the craft of >making a "brew" to heal the land. > >I like the science aspect of this forum in studying the causes and >effects of various methods of farming on the surrounding environment. I >do not believe, however, that my plants grow because I connect with some >sort of "inner self" or some universal power source. > >Is this a part of what biodynamics is? > One day a man went into a supermarket and bought 50 packets of vegetable seeds which were on special. He planted them in his garden according to the instructions on the packets. Between planting and the time for harvest it rained but little and all he got for his efforts were half a dozen wizened plants and one good lettuce which he ate for dinner. The next morning he went to the house of a woman in the street who he knew supplied local restaurants with vegetables she grew herself. He found her in the front garden among her many flowers. He told her the story and then asked her how it was that her vegies and her flowers grew so well. "I'm a little busy just now," Mary said with a smile, "Come back at 2.15 pm." At the appointed time he returned to find her clipping the heads of flowers which were past their bloom. "Hold this open," she instructed and handed him a large brown paper bag. He did as he was told, watching as she dropped the heads into the bag. What, he asked, was she doing? "Collecting the seeds so I may grow the flowers again next year," she answered. "When the flower heads are dry, the seeds will separate from the rest and I shall sift them out and put them away in a cool dry place for they are better than the ones they sell in the supermarket The rest of the flowers I shall put in the compost heap so all their goodness will go back into the soil." "You don't know much about gardening, do you?" she asked. He shook his head. Looking at his threadbare clothes and thinking of her reputation with the restaurants, she thought she knew why he had bought the seeds. "About your question," she continued. "It is a matter of acceptance. Some would call it belief. For instance, I accept that there is a rhythm to all things and that I am a part of it, not in control. Also that there is only so much printing that will fit on the back of a packet of seeds, no matter how much it costs. Also that there is more to all this" she gestured broadly "than meets the eye. Including us." For a moment she paused as though deep in thought and then she nodded. "Follow me," she said and took him round the back of the house. As he followed her through the plot his eyes goggled at the teeming growth around him, the irrigation pipes and sprays. Mary stopped at a pile of what he took, from its smell, to be manure of some kind. She bent and picked something up off the ground, gave it to him. It was a cowhorn. "Hold it with the point down, " she instructed. He did so, gaping as she picked up a handful of manure and stuffed it into the horn, packing it down tight. When it was full she stopped the end with earth, took the horn from his hand and placed it in a hole in the ground which she had dug for that purpose an hour before. He saw she angled the horn slightly, point uppermost. "Almost a hundred years ago," she said, apropos of nothing, "A European man called Rudolf Steiner with off-world help gathered together the wisdom of the ages as it relates to the four elements and the growing of plants. With insights born of a keen brain, study, research, experimentation and personal sacrifice, he developed a system of natural agriculture which we call 'biodynamics' or BD. "Part of my acceptance includes burying the cowhorn in that hole on the night of the winter solstice and digging it up about five and a half months later. When I do so, this is what I shall find." Mary picked up another cowhorn, unstoppered it and tipped the contents on to a board. Without speaking, she took a spade, dug into the ground, unearthed a small wooden box, placed it next to the small pile and removed the lid. "Now I know why I buried that there last winter." The woman grinned at his look of mystification. "Look at the two substances. This from the cowhorn is granular; this in the box resembles petrified cowdung. Which it is, in fact. If I take a minute portion of the first, liquidise it, add my own energy to the energy it already contains, and spray it on my garden, everything will grow in abundance. Are you a Christian?" A little taken aback at the change of direction, he nodded abruptly. She smiled again. "It is said that Jesus of Nazareth turned water into wine, a few loaves and fishes into enough food to
Roger's energy message
- Original Message - From: Roger Pye (in part) > "Energy!" he said softly but > forcefully. "That's it, isn't it? Energy from the soil, from the sun, > from the rain, from the very air itself. And from me, from within me. > That's important, isn't it?" > > When the man reached home, he went into his study, lit the oil lamp and > took from its crowded shelves a manuscript which he laid on the desk > open at the next blank page. Plucking the quill pen from its holder, he > dipped it into an inkwell, shook it to clear a drop from the end, wrote > a few words on the page, blotted it carefully and left the room. > > The words sparkled in the beam from the lamp. "Today I learned about > BD500." Below them a small r entwined with an s. > > roger > WOW! you do write nice!!! thanks for this - from all of us I bet. Lloyd Charles
Re: From Global News: the unknown God(dess) & a test
Hi! Roger. A great answer! Gil Roger Pye wrote: > Patti Berg wrote: > > >Hello, > > > >Over the summer, I have been trying to learn what biodynamics is. At > >first I thought it was a method of farming, but I read evidence that it > >may possibly be a religion. > >SNIP > >Is this a part of what biodynamics is? > > > > One day a man went into a supermarket and bought 50 packets of vegetable > seeds which were on special. He planted them in his garden according to > the instructions on the packets. Between planting and the time for > harvest it rained but little and all he got for his efforts were half a > dozen wizened plants and one good lettuce which he ate for dinner.
Re: earth closet
Hi! Patti, While not an earth-closet, I recommend the Clivus Multrum, it is a commercially available, waterless composting toilet, which uses saw dust, wood shavings etc, in place of the soil. We have been using ours for about five years and are very happy with it. Hit Google and put Clivus Multrum in advanced search and you will find all you need to know. Gil Patti Berg wrote: > Does anyone on this list know where I can get plans to build an earth > closet?
Re: From Global News: the unknown God(dess) & a test
beautiful, beautiful is all i can say. :)sharon WHew that woman sounds like me! - Original Message - From: "Roger Pye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 9:46 PM Subject: Re: From Global News: the unknown God(dess) & a test > Patti Berg wrote: > > >Hello, > > > >Over the summer, I have been trying to learn what biodynamics is. At > >first I thought it was a method of farming, but I read evidence that it > >may possibly be a religion. > > > >I have read on the list that some believe there are fairies in the > >forest helping them in their endeavors. Others practice the craft of > >making a "brew" to heal the land. > > > >I like the science aspect of this forum in studying the causes and > >effects of various methods of farming on the surrounding environment. I > >do not believe, however, that my plants grow because I connect with some > >sort of "inner self" or some universal power source. > > > >Is this a part of what biodynamics is? > > > > One day a man went into a supermarket and bought 50 packets of vegetable > seeds which were on special. He planted them in his garden according to > the instructions on the packets. Between planting and the time for > harvest it rained but little and all he got for his efforts were half a > dozen wizened plants and one good lettuce which he ate for dinner. > > The next morning he went to the house of a woman in the street who he > knew supplied local restaurants with vegetables she grew herself. He > found her in the front garden among her many flowers. He told her the > story and then asked her how it was that her vegies and her flowers grew > so well. > > "I'm a little busy just now," Mary said with a smile, "Come back at 2.15 > pm." > > At the appointed time he returned to find her clipping the heads of > flowers which were past their bloom. "Hold this open," she instructed > and handed him a large brown paper bag. He did as he was told, watching > as she dropped the heads into the bag. What, he asked, was she doing? > "Collecting the seeds so I may grow the flowers again next year," she > answered. "When the flower heads are dry, the seeds will separate from > the rest and I shall sift them out and put them away in a cool dry place > for they are better than the ones they sell in the supermarket The rest > of the flowers I shall put in the compost heap so all their goodness > will go back into the soil." > > "You don't know much about gardening, do you?" she asked. He shook his > head. Looking at his threadbare clothes and thinking of her reputation > with the restaurants, she thought she knew why he had bought the seeds. > "About your question," she continued. "It is a matter of acceptance. > Some would call it belief. For instance, I accept that there is a > rhythm to all things and that I am a part of it, not in control. Also > that there is only so much printing that will fit on the back of a > packet of seeds, no matter how much it costs. Also that there is more to > all this" she gestured broadly "than meets the eye. Including us." > > For a moment she paused as though deep in thought and then she nodded. > "Follow me," she said and took him round the back of the house. As he > followed her through the plot his eyes goggled at the teeming growth > around him, the irrigation pipes and sprays. Mary stopped at a pile of > what he took, from its smell, to be manure of some kind. > > She bent and picked something up off the ground, gave it to him. It was > a cowhorn. "Hold it with the point down, " she instructed. He did so, > gaping as she picked up a handful of manure and stuffed it into the > horn, packing it down tight. When it was full she stopped the end with > earth, took the horn from his hand and placed it in a hole in the ground > which she had dug for that purpose an hour before. He saw she angled the > horn slightly, point uppermost. > > "Almost a hundred years ago," she said, apropos of nothing, "A European > man called Rudolf Steiner with off-world help gathered together the > wisdom of the ages as it relates to the four elements and the growing of > plants. With insights born of a keen brain, study, research, > experimentation and personal sacrifice, he developed a system of natural > agriculture which we call 'biodynamics' or BD. > > "Part of my acceptance includes burying the cowhorn in that hole on the > night of the winter solstice and digging it up about five and a half > months later. When I do so, this is what I shall find." > > Mary picked up another cowhorn, unstoppered it and tipped the contents > on to a board. Without speaking, she took a spade, dug into the ground, > unearthed a small wooden box, placed it next to the small pile and > removed the lid. > > "Now I know why I buried that there last winter." The woman grinned at > his look of mystification. "Look at the two substances. This from the > cowhorn is granular; this in the box resembles petrified cowdung. Which > it is, in f
Re: earth closet
gil , do you live in the us, have any problem with permits? :)sharon - Original Message - From: "Gil Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 10:49 PM Subject: Re: earth closet > Hi! Patti, > While not an earth-closet, I recommend the Clivus Multrum, it is a > commercially available, waterless composting toilet, which uses saw dust, > wood shavings etc, in place of the soil. We have been using ours for about > five years and are very happy with it. > > Hit Google and put Clivus Multrum in advanced search and you will find all > you need to know. > > Gil > > Patti Berg wrote: > > > Does anyone on this list know where I can get plans to build an earth > > closet? > > >
Pre-emptive Strike
In the Southern Tablelands of NSW, halfway (50 km) along a dirt road from Braidwood (pop. 950) to Nowra (coastal town) there lies a hamlet called Nerriga which comprises two churches, one hotel, a general store (closed), a trading post cum filling station cum caravan park, several cottages and a permanent population of nine. To the north-east of the village on the way to Nowra is an arm of the Moreton National Park, rugged volcanic country not for the fainthearted to explore. About a kilometer to the south-west of Nerriga is a Crown reserve, a valley, in the control of a local trust. The reserve contains a disused sawmill and several wooden huts which were occupied by sawmill workers some 30-50 years ago. One of these huts is sited not far from the creek (stream) which meanders through the valley separating it from an almost vertical slope to the west which is covered with trees. There are trees also to the east on ground which rises shallowly to the road some 300 metres away. The area around the hut is therefore wind-protected, the sun pours in to it most days, and it can be very pleasant even on icy winter days. I lived in this hut (Sunshine Cottage I called it) in the valley for 18 months just under a decade ago. I was a destitute woodworker; many's the time I sat on the bench just outside the front door revelling in the sunshine, watching white cockatoos, kookaburras (kingfishers), magpies, currawongs diving and darting about as they do. In the valley, I underwent emotional trauma almost beyond belief interleaved with occasional and very brief ecstatic moments. I didn't eat half-way properly either. Even so, whenever I need to go somewhere in my mind, as happens from time to time, it is to Sunshine Valley I go, to peace, quiet and reverence, birdsong, tortoises splashing in the creek. Six months after I left the Valley, on 3 June 1995, I experienced the first of what I have identified as 'downloads' of energy. I was then living a solitary existence on a farm not far from Braidwood but on that night I was in a theatre in Canberra, 80 km away, watching a musical in which my eldest son (then 32) was the leader of the chorus. The download lasted about 30 seconds and triggered an emotional outpouring which robbed me of my complete memory for nearly 24 hours. I got home by intuition - it took me three hours instead of just over an hour - and I didn't 'recognise' anything when I reached there. I wrote a book during the next five months, in fact started it the very next day, even though I had written very little other than official reports for most of my life. During the writing of it, memories returned - but not all of them by any means - and by the end of October much of what I had written about had happened as well but in far different contexts to those in the book. I also possessed memories and knowledge I had been unaware of before 3rd June. Since then I have had half a dozen downloads, the last very recently. It began at lunchtime Thurs 22nd August and went on for twenty-nine hours, the longest yet. In terms of pre-emptive strikes, the following extract of happenings (which occurred near the end of the download) may be of interest: *** I must have slept awhile for the window of the third eye was murky, so I cleaned it and looked through in anticipation of seeing the sunlit glade with trees and birds and a creek running through, and an old wooden worker's shack with a ute parked nearby. But this time I didn't see that at all. Instead everything was dark and I 'turned' away. I had become cold again; the energy pouring into me from the golden rays I had seen earlier must have dissipated, I thought. Yet when I touched the crystal which hangs around my neck it felt fiery hot. Perhaps it wasn't me after all. With an effort I opened the third eye once more. The multitude filled the valley for as far as I could see, humanity laughing, singing, dancing in the brilliant, loving sunshine. Birds sang, a dog barked, frogs croaked, a lone kangaroo startled by the racket loped across from the roadside to the creek and beyond. In the distance a trumpet sounded and close to hand I heard the woman's voice I had listened to earlier in the happening. "Fifteen years, at the most you have fifteen years. By then there must be a secondary structure in place if humanity is to survive, a fall back system for the few who will be left. Do not waste this time." As her voice faded away thick black clouds rolled in, blotting out the sunlight and warmth. The full panoply and fury of thunder and lightning blasted down into the crowd below. The laughter changed to wailing then to screams then to anguished sobbing. I watched, terrified and horror-stricken, as the armies of the world marched past in their uniformed millions, leaving behind a featureless, blackened waste. And of birdsong there was none . . . roger
BD Preps - Storage Thereof
In terms of the storage of BD Preparations, it is fortunate that Rudolf Steiner was not a Greek. Had he been, we would all be scouring the earth for amphorae :) roger
RE: Pre-emptive Strike
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Roger Pye Sent: 26 August 2002 06:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Pre-emptive Strike In the Southern Tablelands of NSW, halfway (50 km) along a dirt road from Braidwood (pop. 950) to Nowra (coastal town) there lies a hamlet called Nerriga which comprises two churches, one hotel, a general store (closed), a trading post cum filling station cum caravan park, several cottages and a permanent population of nine. To the north-east of the village on the way to Nowra is an arm of the Moreton National Park, rugged volcanic country not for the fainthearted to explore. About a kilometer to the south-west of Nerriga is a Crown reserve, a valley, in the control of a local trust. The reserve contains a disused sawmill and several wooden huts which were occupied by sawmill workers some 30-50 years ago. One of these huts is sited not far from the creek (stream) which meanders through the valley separating it from an almost vertical slope to the west which is covered with trees. There are trees also to the east on ground which rises shallowly to the road some 300 metres away. The area around the hut is therefore wind-protected, the sun pours in to it most days, and it can be very pleasant even on icy winter days. I lived in this hut (Sunshine Cottage I called it) in the valley for 18 months just under a decade ago. I was a destitute woodworker; many's the time I sat on the bench just outside the front door revelling in the sunshine, watching white cockatoos, kookaburras (kingfishers), magpies, currawongs diving and darting about as they do. In the valley, I underwent emotional trauma almost beyond belief interleaved with occasional and very brief ecstatic moments. I didn't eat half-way properly either. Even so, whenever I need to go somewhere in my mind, as happens from time to time, it is to Sunshine Valley I go, to peace, quiet and reverence, birdsong, tortoises splashing in the creek. Six months after I left the Valley, on 3 June 1995, I experienced the first of what I have identified as 'downloads' of energy. I was then living a solitary existence on a farm not far from Braidwood but on that night I was in a theatre in Canberra, 80 km away, watching a musical in which my eldest son (then 32) was the leader of the chorus. The download lasted about 30 seconds and triggered an emotional outpouring which robbed me of my complete memory for nearly 24 hours. I got home by intuition - it took me three hours instead of just over an hour - and I didn't 'recognise' anything when I reached there. I wrote a book during the next five months, in fact started it the very next day, even though I had written very little other than official reports for most of my life. During the writing of it, memories returned - but not all of them by any means - and by the end of October much of what I had written about had happened as well but in far different contexts to those in the book. I also possessed memories and knowledge I had been unaware of before 3rd June. Since then I have had half a dozen downloads, the last very recently. It began at lunchtime Thurs 22nd August and went on for twenty-nine hours, the longest yet. In terms of pre-emptive strikes, the following extract of happenings (which occurred near the end of the download) may be of interest: *** I must have slept awhile for the window of the third eye was murky, so I cleaned it and looked through in anticipation of seeing the sunlit glade with trees and birds and a creek running through, and an old wooden worker's shack with a ute parked nearby. But this time I didn't see that at all. Instead everything was dark and I 'turned' away. I had become cold again; the energy pouring into me from the golden rays I had seen earlier must have dissipated, I thought. Yet when I touched the crystal which hangs around my neck it felt fiery hot. Perhaps it wasn't me after all. With an effort I opened the third eye once more. The multitude filled the valley for as far as I could see, humanity laughing, singing, dancing in the brilliant, loving sunshine. Birds sang, a dog barked, frogs croaked, a lone kangaroo startled by the racket loped across from the roadside to the creek and beyond. In the distance a trumpet sounded and close to hand I heard the woman's voice I had listened to earlier in the happening. "Fifteen years, at the most you have fifteen years. By then there must be a secondary structure in place if humanity is to survive, a fall back system for the few who will be left. Do not waste this time." As her voice faded away thick black clouds rolled in, blotting out the sunlight and warmth. The full panoply and fury of thunder and lightning blasted down into the crowd below. The laughter changed to wailing then to screams then to anguished sobbing. I watched, terrified and horror-stricken, as the armies of t
RE: Weeds
good to hear from you I will go home and write out some books and things that will help you I am just verey sad we like so far apart you clearly think very much on my wavelength just read another posting about your book I shall keep glued to this newsgroup now for more posting from your Roger Rex Tyler -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Roger Pye Sent: 25 August 2002 14:16 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Weeds Rex Tyler wrote: >great to hear that, at last someone knows what he's talking about I have >studied so called wild plants for years and eaten many of them as food >at last some light! > Rex, has your study revealed to you any characteristics of plants, wild or otherwise, which could be of use in demonstrating that the usefulness of them goes beyond the accepted or expected? For example, serrated tussock, a fibrous grass which originated in South America, is classified as a noxious weed in South Africa, New Zealand, Australia and the United States. The reason for the classification is that stock animals will only eat it as a last resort (ie, when there is nothing else edible at all) and then because of its composition (about 92% fibre + 4% protein + 4% moisture) they cannot draw enough sustenance from it to maintain life no matter how much they consume. In some animals, the fibre blocks the gut preventing anything else from going through. But that's the 'downside' - and in this case, the downside is a killer; ST is the Number One noxious weed in Oz, kill on sight etc. (Makes little difference, the chemicals used, which include Roundup, only kill the current plant, have no effect on the seed bed, and each mature plant can dump 100,000 seeds a season which may remain dormant for up to 40+ years. BD ST peppers have been shown to do a better job.) The 'upside' is that ST is a fantastic erosion-stopper - a ground cover which will grow in the poorest soils, protect and hold them together. It also makes great mulch. Incidentally, it's inhibited by common gorse (ulex europa), another noxious weed; the two will not grow together. I have an embryo plants resource reference (currently in Excel) which I am putting together using information gleaned from all over the place.To name a few - the Ohio Plant Dictionary, http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/, http://www.geocities.com/nutriflip/Naturopathy/, books about herbs & weeds, Culpeper's original writings and so on. There are currently 500 plants in there. Some of the info's pretty sketchy. This is the type of info I'm aiming for : Common Name - Burdock; Botanical Name - Arctium Lappa; Other Names; Planet - Venus; Treatment For or Uses - Acne,Gout,Arthritis,Eczema,Blood Purifier,Itch,Uric Acid,Builds Liver Health,skin diseases, flu, tonsilitis; Description - A rapid blood purifier, a diuretic, and good for ulcers. Aids the pituitary gland, keeps waste moving out of a weak body, and expels kidney and bladder stones. Reduces calcium deposits in the joints. Banana Peel - Fixes phosphorus, potash. Bury around rose bushes for stunning blooms.. Canada Thistle - growth inhibited by alfalfa, red clover. Assist inhibition by clipping thistle growth thrice per growing season. Sunflower - this plant has been sown thickly in radiation-affected areas around Chernobyl. Believed to absorb radiation components such as strontium and break down into harmless substances. Tall fescue - grass native to Southern Canada. Absorbs petro-chemical wastes and converts them as above. I welcome any info on plants regardless of whether they are classified as 'weeds' or not. roger
On & Off Topic
Firstly Roger, thank you for the story and also for your words on war. I have been fortunate in life not to have lived through such horrors, and like you and many others would not wish such a thing on anyone. As Gil mentioned, Clivus Multrum, I have a friend who copied the plans and made her own model, she like you Gil was very pleased. I on the other hand think I got my positioning wrong, (not enough ventilation). Live & learn, it will be moved to a straw bale studio one day. With the learning each day, I'm now being able to understand more of the scientific aspects, such as soil microbes, their actions, what produces what etc., going back through topics on this link that I have saved, are beginning to make sense now. Getting there. A while back someone mentioned a book called Guardianship of Water (?), I have been unable to locate the message that had this book. If anyone out there knows of the correct title and maybe even author, it would be greatly appreciated by a friend who is doing their PhD on guradianship of land. Attending a Bio Ag in Narrabri (SP?) NSW in a couple of weeks, looking forward to Elaine Ingham. L&L Liz
Re: On & Off Topic
Liz Davis wrote: >As Gil mentioned, Clivus Multrum, I have a friend who copied the plans and >made her own model, she like you Gil was very pleased. I on the other hand >think I got my positioning wrong, (not enough ventilation). Live & learn, >it will be moved to a straw bale studio one day. > Last year one of these units cost about $AUD2,000 installed by the maker who if I remember correctly is based in or near Griffith, NSW. >A while back someone mentioned a book called Guardianship of Water (?), I >have been unable to locate the message that had this book. If anyone out >there knows of the correct title and maybe even author, it would be greatly >appreciated by a friend who is doing their PhD on guradianship of land. > Water is by far our most precious resource. For people who want to know about recycling effluent, grey water and the like, contact me offlist. Also people interested in the energies of water should look out for books by Callum Coats. roger
