Re: BD Viticulature Quotes wanted
We hear that actions speak louder than words, perhaps a lobbyist bearing a half a dozen of Sharon's finest, would put a convincing case? Gil (AcresUSA has run a couple of good features on BD Wine.) kentjamescarson wrote: NO QUOTES BUT , SHALL I BRING SOME OF MY HOMEMADE WINE ? RASPBERRY, DANDELION, GRAPE, PEACH,RHUBARB SHALL I PUT YOU ON MY CHRISTMAS LIST ? :)SHARON
One Parker BD Viticulture citation
not suffecient for my needs, but a start! -Allan Domaine Leflaive, now completely managed by Anne-Claude Leflaive, is renowned througout the world for consistently offering some of the finest white Burgundies. What struck me on my visit here is Madame Laflaive's obsession with improving an already admirable production. A few years ago she decided to shift the domaine's vineyards to organic viticulture because she noticed the damage caused by years of chemical treaments. A short time later she again shifted the viticuture, this time to the more radical bio-dynamic system utilized by Lalou Bize-Leroy, Michel Chapoutler, and Nicolas Joly (of Coulee de Serrant) among others. Bio-dynamic viticulture is beyond organic, with such issues as the phases of the moon playing significant roles. Some people think bio-dynamic farming is rubbish, poking fun at the nettle teas that are blended in grounded (sic) 'dynamizers and dismissing as cultist to eschew chemical pesticides and fertilizers. I understand the moon moves oceans and therefore may have an effect on the sap in the vine, but I have trouble with some of the more farfetched theories behind this practice. However, I am certain of the quality of the products emanating from several of the domaines practicing biodynamic viticulture. I also know when Madam Leflaive served me blind two samples of the 1995 Batard (vinified identically and from the same parcels), one from bio-dynamic viticulture and the other from organic farming, I easily gravitated to the bio-dynamic one. It tasted more precise, and possessed more fruit and length
Re: BD Viticulature Quotes wanted
Keep up the good work, Sharon - and remember: the consumption of alcohol is allowable on the premises of the BD Conference Oct 4-6. -ALlan NO QUOTES BUT , SHALL I BRING SOME OF MY HOMEMADE WINE ? RASPBERRY, DANDELION, GRAPE, PEACH,RHUBARB SHALL I PUT YOU ON MY CHRISTMAS LIST ? :)SHARON -- --- Original Message - From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 11:42 AM Subject: BD Viticulature Quotes wanted If you have any of those choice quotes about the high quality of BD wine grapes like Robert Parker was kicking around 10 years ago, please pass them to me. I'm working to pump up interest in biodynamic viticulture in this area. Thanks -Allan
Re: Altzheimers.
I suggest that you look at Lachesis 60c as to whether you think that it describes the symptoms being experienced. James - do you have a materia medica that breaks things out by potentcy as well as remedy? -Allan
Re: The Perils of Alsheimer's was B.S. E.
- Original Message - From: Patti Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 11:40 AM Subject: Re: The Perils of BSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About your Mom, My Chi Gong doctor said that they do not use gingko for memory. The correct food for the brain is walnuts. Law of similars, a walnut indeed looks like a little brain, Momma may also enjoy it better as a food...give it try. Goodday mate...SStorch Walnuts are indeed a good food source to prevent memory loss. Just as good is extra-virgin olive oil and sesame seeds. I grind sesame seeds in my flour for biscuits, waffles and bread and use nothing but olive oil. Patti. The problem is sugar control and dehydration or lack of adequate blood supply to the brain. A little bit of ginko hidden in her tea seems to be having a possitive effect and she is better than she was six months ago. Thanks for the tips, Cheers, Peter.
Re: The Perils of BSE
Thanks a million Chris, You're right on the mark there. I don't think it would be possible to get her on a cleansing diet but I'll remember it for myself. For me I think mecury will feature as well. When my generation were kids the dental proffesion practiced preventative dentistry. Emphasys on 'practice' we got two holes bored every six months and if there were no holes to fill then they would bore one where they thought the next one aught to be, conseqently many of us are carrying quite a bit of almalgm in our mouths. At 88 my mother wouldn't mind if St. Peter called but in the mean time she has to put up with the Peter who aint achieved sainthood yet. Cheers, Peter. - Original Message - From: Trem, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 4:12 AM Subject: RE: The Perils of BSE I'm looking after a mother who is heading for alzheimers. Warm regards. Peter. Hello Peter, A man who lived in Phoenix Arizona, back in the early 80's, took in a woman who was suffering from Alzheimer's. He put her on a cleansing diet and found that she was eliminating lots of aluminum particles, which can come from processed American cheese, aluminum pots and pans, etc. After he cured her of Alzheimer's, others began calling him and asking for advise which he gave freely and without charge. Then the American Medical Association heard about it, slapped him with a law suit for practicing medicine without a license and forced him to stop helping people. What did the AMA do with the knowledge this man had for curing Alzheimer's? Nothing. The AMA succeeded in suppressing another potential cure for disease. (Don't mean to sound negative here that because of the AMA all hope is lost. Apparently, she was cured with simple drugless, cleansing methods). Best wishes for you and your mother, Chris
Re: Wood chips
Hi! Liz, I think you are on track with the issues on Reveg down under. Over much of Oz we have alkaline soils in the current land use. As you would know, most land when cleared included the use of fire to remove the biomass and to kill the seeds and roots of the native Veg. This also burns the soil carbon and kills the soil biota. In a natural Oz bush land, there is a thin layer of leaf litter/ mulch on the surface and a humus rich (but often thin) layer of top soil. This is neutral to slightly acid and suited to the germination and early growth of the typical native species. But fire will destroy this and leave an inhospitable alkaline seed bed which will stop most species from growing. We are currently doing research on Eyre Peninsula that we hope will over come this. We are doing well in the acid soils and now have to transfer this to the alkaline soils. Gil Liz Davis wrote: Hi Robin I am interested in reading more about this. I could be way off track here, but can't help but wonder if it may be a solution, or part of, to a large problem we face in Australia. native tree regeneration is having a difficult time, as the trees will not establish in some areas due to the conventional farming that has gone on previously. As you can imagine it is a fairly new problem, which only continues to grow at this point in time. Originally I was thinking that leaf litter,(specific to that region) including twigs were put back into these areas to aid the return of necessary microorganisms, required by native trees. It was my uni that got me going on this topic. Thanks LL Liz
Re: BD Viticulature Quotes wanted
I would love your recipe for dandelion wine if you felt like sharing it with us, Sharon. Thanks for any tips you might have. Best, Jane NO QUOTES BUT , SHALL I BRING SOME OF MY HOMEMADE WINE ? RASPBERRY, DANDELION, GRAPE, PEACH,RHUBARB SHALL I PUT YOU ON MY CHRISTMAS LIST ? :)SHARON
OT: FW: [globalnews] OIL COMPANIES COLONISE TURKEY: New PipelineContract Ignores Human Rights, Environment
Title: OT: FW: [globalnews] OIL COMPANIES COLONISE TURKEY: New Pipeline Contract Ignores Human Rights, Environment Friends of the Earth OIL COMPANIES COLONISE TURKEY 30 Aug 2002 Corporate Accountability Not! BP and other oil companies have demanded an extraordinary and outrageous deal, giving them complete freedom from regulation for a pipeline they propose to build across Turkey. The planned 1760km oil pipeline is backed by BP (UK), Unocal (US) Statoil (Norway), Turkiye Petroleum (Turkey), ENI (Italy), TotalFinaElf (France), Itochu Oil (Japan), Delta Hess (US/Saudi Arabia) and the State Oil Company of Azerbaijan. It would stretch from Baku on the Caspian Sea, through T'blisi in Georgia, to Ceyhan on the Turkish Mediterranean coast. Slated for completion in 2005, it would operate for at least 40 years. The BP-Turkey agreement, known as the Host Government Agreement (HGA), creates a corridor running through some of Turkeys most politically volatile regions. The corridor would effectively be outside the national governments jurisdiction for the lifetime of the proposed project. The HGA was published in Turkey's Official Gazette on 10 September 2000 but only recently obtained and analyzed by a group of NGOs (FOEI, CRBM, Cornerhouse, KHRP, PLATFORM, CEE Bankwatch Network, Ilisu Dam Campaign). It exempts the companies from obligations under any current or future Turkish law that may threaten the project's profits, including environmental, social and human rights legislation. The only Turkish law not superseded by the agreement is the Constitution. [1] The HGA allows the consortium building the pipeline to demand unlimited protection from Turkish security forces, without safeguards against human rights abuses. Under the vague wording of the agreement, paramilitary units could be placed along the pipeline route to pre-empt civil disturbance or terrorist activities. Since the pipeline cuts repeatedly through villages and bisects established ownership patterns, people could find themselves cut off from their families or land and be forced to trespass regularly on oil company property in their daily lives. Other provisions in the HGA include unfettered access to water, regardless of the needs of local communities, and exemption from liability in the event of an oil spill or any other harm caused by the pipeline consortium. The Turkish government can intervene only temporarily in the case of an imminent and material threat to the public, the environment or national security. But what would constitute such a threat remains undefined. Nor is it clear who would decide whether such a threat existed. Local communities and neighbouring countries appear to be left without recourse for damages. The route chosen for the pipeline is one of the most expensive possible for Caspian oil exports. According to BP Chairman John Browne, its profitability will be dependent on free public money [2] much of which will come from funding sources like the World Bank and export credit agencies. The legal agreement signed with the Turkish government further props up the project by preventing the Turkish government from taking any actions that could disrupt its economic equilibrium. The NGOs have slammed the agreement as colonialist and reminiscent of the discredited OECD proposal for a Multilateral Agreement on Investment (MAI) which was rejected in 1998.[3] Tony Juniper of Friends of the Earth commented: This is a clear example of why the Earth Summit must deliver global rules on corporate accountability. Left to their own devices, corporations are quite happy to put profits before people. BP wants to waive the rules, destroying the environment and trampling on the rights of local communities with impunity. Nick Hildyard of the Cornerhouse commented: Turkey is now divided into three countries, the area where Turkish law applies; the Kurdish areas under official or de facto military rule; and a strip running the entire length of the country, where BP is the effective government. The MAI was rightly rejected by governments for eroding national sovereignty under pressure from civil society, said Nick Hildyard of the Corner House. Now these companies are trying to revive the MAI by negotiating directly with undemocratic governments. Anders Lustgarten of the Kurdish Human Rights Project commented that Turkey has recently charged students signing a Kurdish education petition with membership of an illegal terrorist organisation, and charged a father who named his daughter after a Kurdish character in a popular soap with sabotage of the state. These precedents do not instil confidence in the way such nebulous terms as 'civil disturbance' and 'terrorism' will be applied under this agreement. Similar agreements between governments and the oil companies have also been negotiated for Georgia and Azerbaijan. Commenting on the implications for Georgia, Manana Kochladze of Green Alternatives stated: The requirement to
Re: OT:FW: Are you Nuts?
Aduh,??? where the hell have you been, on Venus? SStorch
Re: BD Viticulature Quotes wanted
Allan, some books immediately come to mind, with fairly extensive BD passages in them: Patrick Matthews, Real Wine Patrick Matthews, The Wild Bunch Clive Coates, Cote D'Or Anthony Hanson, Burgundy (2nd Edition) - This one is definitly out of print. There's also been an extensive spurt of aticles over the past 18 months in most of the important consumer wine mags, from Decanter on down. The current Wine Spririt special issue out of the stands on tasing wine terroir has a large section on BD and other medthods of viticulture. There's also an article or two in the Wine Business Monthly archives on the web. Cheers, Geoff Heinricks
RE: [globalnews] Opening Markets Is Not Sustainable, Says BritishGuru
From: James Hedley You wont see such a high proportion of Australians who would support such draconian measures as removing the right of free speech for anyone who is critical of the government. In the end it is the people who allow governments to terrorise them, not the terrorists. Maybe what is needed is another revolution to allow the new society in. Remember that it is people who have defined the American dream for you, not some amorphous multinational. Hello James, You have brought up many good points. I think you are quite right in that we have allowed government to take away our rights. It's dissapointing that here in the US the Constitution really doesn't apply to many people anymore. For example, the right to free travel is gone because the state has found a way to easily convert the right to travel into a taxable privilege by simply getting you to sign a contract with the state (another wealth confiscation scheme). Here is a copy of a letter from Senator Wayne Stump, Arizona State Senate; Phoenix, Arizona to the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office dated December 10, 1985. Senator Wayne Stump writes: It has come to my attention that numerous individuals in our state have rescinded all of their contracts with the United States federal government, the State of Arizona, and each of its political subdivisions, establishing themselves as freemen under the organic national constitution of the Republic of the United States of America. Consequently, they may be driving without auto registration, driver's license, or any other evidence of contract. Because many law enforcement personnel may be unaware of the contractual nature of auto registration and driver's licenses, it is conceivable that this situation may lead to confrontation between these individuals and law enforcement personnel. I urge you to inform yourself and your personnel about this matter as soon as possible. If you would like to be briefed by someone knowledgeable on this subject, please contact me. In the meantime, inasmuch as this procedure is entirely appropriate when properly carried out, I would like to be personally notified of every such instance of confrontation in order that the persons involved and the public officials involved may be apprised of the correct procedure and the appropriateness of their actions on the part of each concerned. Our other rights have been compromised through the same mechanism - legally enforceable contracts. Except that government has done a good job of concealing the fact that you ever signed a contract - very deceptive! Beware of hidden, invisible contracts. Regards, Chris
Religion?
At 12:04 PM 9/4/2002 -0400, Patti wrote: Dave, I have tried to access www.oregonbd.com but just get a message unable to locate server. Has this site moved? Oops. My mistake. It's www.oregonbd.org. David Robison
Re: BD Viticulture Quotes wanted
Hi Allan, Your call forinformation has jogged my memory. There was a big to-do in British wine writing circlesin 1995as a result ofstatements Robert Parker made about a particularlypoor vintage (1993)of Hermitage wines (Northern Rhone).For Parker, the only decent wines to emerge that year were made by Michel Chapoutier, an outspoken advocate of BD (and the man wholent me my first copy of the Ag lectures!) Parkersaid, in effect,that the only reason Chapoutier's wines succeeded in such a poor vintage wasthat he used BD techniques.This caused quite a fuss in London; some of my former colleagues held a big blind tasting (Chapoutier's wines alongside other Rhone producers of that vintage in masked bottles, so nobody could tell which wines they were tasting) to see if they agreed with Parker's claims. Here's a link to an exhaustive, somewhat tongue-in-cheek account of that tasting: http://www.winedine.co.uk/page.php?cid=259 The piece contains a couple of enthusiastic comments by Parker about BD. The Brits present at that tasting disagreed comprehensively with Parker's assessment,but there's no reason for that to trouble him. As far as I know hecontinues to be an enthusiastic supporter of Chapoutier wines as well as many other topwinemakers who have adopted BD. If you're looking for more general wine writing on BD, my book The Great Organic Wine Guidecontains a chapter of 5000 words of introduction to BD from a grape grower's perspective. I'd be happy to email that chapter to you as a Word attachment if that would be useful. Regards, Hilary
Re: Wood chips
Liz, Sstorch, Roger, Lloyd, and all, Pedogenesis under Australian eucalyptus is very similar to that of conifers. As such, eucalyptus has inherited some evolutionary aspects that have left them with lignin that has an asymetrical structure with aromatic rings composed of a single methoxyl group that, under bacterial digestion, releases polyphenols, terpens, ..., that inhibit that action of certain lipase's. In other word they have evolutionary mechanism that helps them fight vegetation competition. This makes it very difficult to grow agricultural crops under their canopy.Also, eucalyptus 'internally cycles' phosphorus. What this means is that the trees suck up the phosphorus from the soil and buries it within itself. When it needs it, it gets it from itself. Kind of like what we humans do with calcium in our bones. As such, soil around eucalyptus trees often has very low amounts of phosphorus. Think of chipping small branches as the action of human chewing his/her food. It starts the enzymatic breakdown and facilitates digestion. This is true for small twigs and branches, NOT FOR STEMWOOD. Which is why it may not be a good idea to use waste from industrial mills. Hardwood twigs. Cheers - Original Message - From: Liz Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: August 31, 2002 12:56 PM Subject: Wood chips Hi Robin I am interested in reading more about this. I could be way off track here, but can't help but wonder if it may be a solution, or part of, to a large problem we face in Australia. native tree regeneration is having a difficult time, as the trees will not establish in some areas due to the conventional farming that has gone on previously. As you can imagine it is a fairly new problem, which only continues to grow at this point in time. Originally I was thinking that leaf litter,(specific to that region) including twigs were put back into these areas to aid the return of necessary microorganisms, required by native trees. It was my uni that got me going on this topic. Thanks LL Liz
Re: Wood chips
Is it this methoxyl group / aromatic ring, release of terpins, and storage of phosphorus that causes eucalyptus to burn in such a volatile manner? I have been observing materials burn for some time now and it tells quite a bit on how they would be useful as composted soil amendments. Oak, a highly recomended wood for this RCW burns slowly as it releases its stored solar energy, whereas a tree like eucalyptus is incredibly fast burning as are most weeds. What is the correlation and connection as to their value of soil restoration??...SStorch
Re: Wood chips
- Original Message - From: Robin Duchesneau [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 6:29 AM Subject: Re: Wood chips Liz, Sstorch, Roger, Lloyd, and all, Pedogenesis under Australian eucalyptus is very similar to that of conifers. As such, eucalyptus has inherited some evolutionary aspects that have left them with lignin that has an asymetrical structure with aromatic rings composed of a single methoxyl group that, under bacterial digestion, releases polyphenols, terpens, ..., that inhibit that action of certain lipase's. In other word they have evolutionary mechanism that helps them fight vegetation competition. Hi Robin Spot on again! If you get to know the eucalypts a little it quickly becomes apparent that this ability to suppress competing vegetation is much more highly developed in the mallee type trees that grow in the alkaline sandy soils of South Australia and Western Australia and moreso again when you plant them outside of their natural habitat - the dry area eucalypts also have a surface root system that extends many times the canopy diameter - some big trees in our country will drain moisture from well over 50 metres from their base Most Australians would not share your concern over the use of eucalyptus sawmill waste - in our area redgum woodchips are one of the most popular garden mulches - used by home gardeners and many municipal authorities in parks and gardens - my problem with this is the potential of this material to encourage white ants (termites) they love the stuff! We use Aussie cypress pine sawdust in our garden beds and contrary to expert opinion it has done a great job. ( this may interest Liz Davis) Cheers all Lloyd Charles
Re: Kolisko Book order
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 7:19 AM To all those interested in purchasing Kolisko's book I ordered off these people a while back - didn't really believe it at the time but hey it was worth a try. Just got this message back this morning. We are sorry to inform you that the item (Agriculture of Tomorrow) you have ordered is out of print and has now been removed from our site Would you like to take advantage of our free Out of Print Search Service?
Re: BD Viticulature Quotes wanted/ change to dandelion wine
sure jane, when we gather the dandelion flowers each spring for sending to jpi (before noon) we separate the bd blooms and the ones fully open we take in to use in the wine. you must pull off all the green part or the wine will de bitter. it must be done immediately or they will shrink. we do this almost daily during the spring dandelion season.adding the petalseach day to about a gallon ou 2 of water depending how much wine you are making and how many petals you have . it is very labor intensive. afteryou have all the flowers in there slice o lomon (biodynamic or at least organic as thinly as you can, add about 3# of sugar per gallon , heat it in a bit of water to make a syrup and add a few whole cloves- stir all together add an herbal wine yeast, put on a fermantation lock and wait aweek or2 till the bubbleing stops . strain and pour into sterile gallon jugs and store 6 months or so if someone gives you a bottle you now know how precious it is. my first bottle of wine i shared with my husband was some homeade dandelion wine. it's like bread though every batch is different. good luck :0sharon Original Message - From: Jane Sherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: BdNow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 9:20 AM Subject: Re: BD Viticulature Quotes wanted I would love your recipe for dandelion wine if you felt like sharing it with us, Sharon. Thanks for any tips you might have. Best, Jane NO QUOTES BUT , SHALL I BRING SOME OF MY HOMEMADE WINE ? RASPBERRY, DANDELION, GRAPE, PEACH,RHUBARB SHALL I PUT YOU ON MY CHRISTMAS LIST ? :)SHARON
