[beagleboard] Eclipse C and Remote Debugging

2014-05-28 Thread Simon Platten
I have Eclipse Kepler running on Ubuntu 14.04 x64, I can build and remote 
debug Java applications on the Beaglebone Black, but for some reason I 
cannot remote debug C applications.

I can compile a C application and I can see that it is transferred to the 
Beaglebone Black, I can even run it from an SSH terminal on the Beaglebone 
Black.  But trying to remote debug always fails with a GDB error.

The console reports that GDB will reconnect, however it never does.

I've tried following numerous videos on YouTube, however none of them have 
resolved this issue.

In the end I decided to build and compile on the Beaglebone Black directly, 
however now I get an error saying GLIBC_2.17 libc.so.6 not found...sorry if 
my post isn't very detailed, I'm at work now without access to all the 
information.

Can anyone point me in the right location to resolve either the remote 
debugging or the GLIBC_2.17 error?  I have already spent a very long time 
trying to find answers myself.

Thank you,

Kind Regards,
Simon

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Re: [beagleboard] Eclipse C and Remote Debugging

2014-05-28 Thread John Syn

From:  Simon Platten simonaplat...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Tuesday, May 27, 2014 at 11:53 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  [beagleboard] Eclipse C and Remote Debugging

 I have Eclipse Kepler running on Ubuntu 14.04 x64, I can build and remote
 debug Java applications on the Beaglebone Black, but for some reason I cannot
 remote debug C applications.
 
 I can compile a C application and I can see that it is transferred to the
 Beaglebone Black, I can even run it from an SSH terminal on the Beaglebone
 Black.  But trying to remote debug always fails with a GDB error.
 
 The console reports that GDB will reconnect, however it never does.
 
 I've tried following numerous videos on YouTube, however none of them have
 resolved this issue.
 
 In the end I decided to build and compile on the Beaglebone Black directly,
 however now I get an error saying GLIBC_2.17 libc.so.6 not found...sorry if my
 post isn't very detailed, I'm at work now without access to all the
 information.
 
 Can anyone point me in the right location to resolve either the remote
 debugging or the GLIBC_2.17 error?  I have already spent a very long time
 trying to find answers myself.
You need GDBServer installed on your BBB. You launch GDBServer on your BBB
with IP of host and specify the port number for the host to connect to. In
Eclipse, I don¹t recall the exact command, but it is something like gdb
remote BBB ipaddr BBB port. There are plenty of example on Google.

https://www.google.com/search?q=eclipse+gdbserver+remote+debugoq=eclipse+gd
bserveraqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l5.16411j0j7sourceid=chromees_sm=119ie=UTF-8

Regards
John
 
 
 Thank you,
 
 Kind Regards,
 Simon
 
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Re: [beagleboard] Eclipse C and Remote Debugging

2014-05-28 Thread Simon Platten
Hi John, Thank you for the reply, perhaps I wasn't very clear.  GDB Server 
is installed on the Beaglebone Black and I see the process running, it just 
fails to connect. 

I will post more detail when I get home tonight.  I've tried using the 
default port 2345 and also found a post suggesting , neither worked.



On Wednesday, 28 May 2014 08:45:53 UTC+1, john3909 wrote:


 From: Simon Platten simona...@gmail.com javascript:
 Reply-To: beagl...@googlegroups.com javascript:
 Date: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 at 11:53 PM
 To: beagl...@googlegroups.com javascript:
 Subject: [beagleboard] Eclipse C and Remote Debugging

 I have Eclipse Kepler running on Ubuntu 14.04 x64, I can build and remote 
 debug Java applications on the Beaglebone Black, but for some reason I 
 cannot remote debug C applications.

 I can compile a C application and I can see that it is transferred to the 
 Beaglebone Black, I can even run it from an SSH terminal on the Beaglebone 
 Black.  But trying to remote debug always fails with a GDB error.

 The console reports that GDB will reconnect, however it never does.

 I've tried following numerous videos on YouTube, however none of them have 
 resolved this issue.

 In the end I decided to build and compile on the Beaglebone Black 
 directly, however now I get an error saying GLIBC_2.17 libc.so.6 not 
 found...sorry if my post isn't very detailed, I'm at work now without 
 access to all the information.

 Can anyone point me in the right location to resolve either the remote 
 debugging or the GLIBC_2.17 error?  I have already spent a very long time 
 trying to find answers myself.

 You need GDBServer installed on your BBB. You launch GDBServer on your BBB 
 with IP of host and specify the port number for the host to connect to. In 
 Eclipse, I don’t recall the exact command, but it is something like gdb 
 remote BBB ipaddr BBB port. There are plenty of example on Google. 


 https://www.google.com/search?q=eclipse+gdbserver+remote+debugoq=eclipse+gdbserveraqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l5.16411j0j7sourceid=chromees_sm=119ie=UTF-8

 Regards
 John



 Thank you,

 Kind Regards,
 Simon

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Re: [beagleboard] Security when connecting autonomous BB to the Internet

2014-05-28 Thread David Farning
A good term to google for is hardening a Debian server.

There are many articles and several good books for people with various
backgrounds.

On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Przemek Klosowski
przemek.klosow...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 7:29 PM,  brettmaurer...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm connecting a BB to the internet and want to make sure it is relatively
 secure. Things like Cloud9, BoneScript, and root default password are all
 things that might leave open security holes.

 I'm no Unix expert so I'll pose the question here. Can anyone point me to a
 guide for what I should do to make the BB secure for long term autonomous
 connection to the Internet?

 Well, that's a difficult question. You connect it to the Internet so
 that it's capable of performing certain functions that you want, but
 you want to secure it so that it will not do anything that you don't
 want.  The best approach, then, is to rigorously specify what's
 allowed and what's not, and implement controls that match this spec.
 You have several tools in your disposal:

 - you can set up an independent firewall in front of your device: if
 your device is on a home/ISP network you probably have a router that
 already implements that.

 - the BBB can run the Linux firewall (iptables) that control the
 network traffic into and out of your device

 - if your requirements can be met by your BBB always originating
 traffic, things are easier: both iptables and ISP router firewalls
 support outgoing connections out of the box, and your BBB is in
 control of the traffic. You have to pay attention to DNS---DNS
 spoofing is the principal vulnerability for this kind of setup

 - if you need to connect to the BBB from the outside, you want to
 limit the open ports and implement it in a cryptographically secure
 way, by using SSH/SSL/TLS or IPsec. This is tricky to get right,
 because there's always a possibility of vulnerabilities like
 Heartbleed

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Re: [beagleboard] Cross Toolchain for Debian Wheezy

2014-05-28 Thread familyheld . am
Back again!

I your script did run a while on my machine, now I have some .deb packages 
in the ./deploy folder.
(I'm using my debian wheezy 32Bit vm (Linux debian-wheezy-vm 3.2.0-4-486 #1 
Debian 3.2.51-1 i686 GNU/Linux)

As far as I could see the script did run without problems.

Binutils and some other stuff already did get installed to my /usr/bin 
folder.
g++ is not installed.
As far as I understand your script as a linux novice it should have been 
installed by some call to dpkg_cross.

I already tried to manually install all the .deb packages from deploy 
folder with 
dpkg -i xzz.deb -force
but this is failing because of dependency problems.

Two questions:
1. Is there a possibility to specify a prefix for the whole toolchain? 
(like angstrom toolchain has /usr/local/angstrom)
2. how to install the .deb packages 

Regards,
Ben
Am Dienstag, 27. Mai 2014 17:05:55 UTC+2 schrieb RobertCNelson:

 On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Robert Nelson 
 robert...@gmail.comjavascript: 
 wrote: 
  On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 3:35 AM,  family...@googlemail.comjavascript: 
 wrote: 
  Hi, I'm having trouble in finding a gcc cross toolchain for BBB. 
  
  I'm using the latest debian image for BBB from 
  beagleboard.org/latest-images. 
  
  As host I have a debian wheezy VM. now I'm looking for some days to 
 find a 
  way to compile my project for the debian version. 
  (I already had it working on angstrom, but now as you move on t debian 
 I 
  need to port my code to debian) 
  
  I already tried emdebian.org 
  (https://wiki.debian.org/EmdebianToolchain#Get_the_binaries) but got 
 stuck 
  anywhere. (Can't remember where) 
  I tried miltiarch support from 
  
 https://wiki.debian.org/MultiarchCrossToolchainBuild?action=showredirect=MultiarchCrossToolchains
  
  but this doesn't work. 
  
  Has anybody a working toolchain for 32bit debian wheezy as tar.gz file. 
  
  I'm stuck, please help. 
  
  Well, i posted 64 bit test versions here: 
  http://rcn-ee.net/deb/cross/test/ 
  
  The script to generate them should run fine for 32 bit. 
  
  
 https://github.com/RobertCNelson/cross-compiler/blob/master/build-wheezy-compiler.sh
  
  
  Just make sure you build it in a 100% Debian Wheezy distro (no 
  testing/sid/etc), and we might have to bump some of the file 
  versions as it was a month or ago that i wrote it. 

 Yeap, new tzdata and linux-libc-dev versions in stable, so i just pushed a 
 bump: 


 https://github.com/RobertCNelson/cross-compiler/commit/1eae13c2948ba548a98aef0585ad6bcc26d1ddd9
  

 Regards, 

 -- 
 Robert Nelson 
 http://www.rcn-ee.com/ 


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[beagleboard] sht15 kernel module

2014-05-28 Thread 'davide' via BeagleBoard
Hello,
this is my first post here, so I hope I'm posting this in the right place.

# Boring intro:
I'm using the sht71 (see [1]) humidity and temperature sensor on the 
beaglebone. This sensor is supported by the sht15 kernel module. I adapted 
the sht15.c code to run in user-space using sysfs and it works. Not exactly 
a clean solution... How do I use the module directly?
I'm using device tree overlays for another sensor (bmp085) and it works 
great.

# The actual question:
Is it possible to load the sht15 kernel module and pass the necessary 
platform data using device tree overlays? There isn't any info about the 
sht15 in the kernel under: 

Documentation/devicetree/bindings/

Does that mean that the module doesn't support the device tree overlay 
approach?

Thanks


[1]: 
http://www.sensirion.com/fileadmin/user_upload/customers/sensirion/Dokumente/Humidity/Sensirion_Humidity_SHT7x_Datasheet_V5.pdf

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Can the BBB get damaged due to a hard power down?

2014-05-28 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak

I really donšt see how this can work. First, the supercaps are 2.5v so you


No:

http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/PHB-5R0V505-R/283-3520-ND/2770536


PMC wonšt like a short circuit, which the supercap is when it is fully
discharged. I could go on, but this idea doesnšt make sense to me.


Same is true of an uncharged battery. The charger circuit is 
current-limited. (I pull it up with a diode drop + 10 Ohms to a +5V rail 
also, for faster charging.)



- Mike

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Can the BBB get damaged due to a hard power down?

2014-05-28 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak

Sounds cool and easy to implement hardware-wise.
Can you share the code for that?


Something like this:

// use plain old open to avoid any buffering etc
int enablefd = open(/proc/sys/kernel/sysrq, O_SYNC | O_RDWR);
int trgfd = open(/proc/sysrq-trigger, O_SYNC | O_RDWR);

// enable sysrq
write(enablefd, 1\n, 2);
close(enablefd);

// sync disks
write(trgfd, s\n, 2);

// remount ro
write(trgfd, u\n, 2);
close(trgfd);

// poweroff
system (/usr/bin/systemctl poweroff -f);

exit(0);


As I mentioned, I use full data+metadata journaling on the filesystem, 
not just metadata.


The only issue is that the system doesn't restart if power is reapplied 
before the supercap is fully discharged. You have to wait 10 seconds or 
so before a restart is possible. I'm not sure how to fix that.


- Mike

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Re: [beagleboard] Cross Toolchain for Debian Wheezy

2014-05-28 Thread halherta
Robert,
Can't we simply use one of the Linaro cross compiling toolchains to 
cross-compile for a Debian based BBB installation?
Does this mean we absolutely must run Wheezy on our PC to be able to 
cross-compile for the BBB with a Debian image.?

Thanks Hussam.

On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:57:37 AM UTC-4, family...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Back again!

 I your script did run a while on my machine, now I have some .deb packages 
 in the ./deploy folder.
 (I'm using my debian wheezy 32Bit vm (Linux debian-wheezy-vm 3.2.0-4-486 
 #1 Debian 3.2.51-1 i686 GNU/Linux)

 As far as I could see the script did run without problems.

 Binutils and some other stuff already did get installed to my /usr/bin 
 folder.
 g++ is not installed.
 As far as I understand your script as a linux novice it should have been 
 installed by some call to dpkg_cross.

 I already tried to manually install all the .deb packages from deploy 
 folder with 
 dpkg -i xzz.deb -force
 but this is failing because of dependency problems.

 Two questions:
 1. Is there a possibility to specify a prefix for the whole toolchain? 
 (like angstrom toolchain has /usr/local/angstrom)
 2. how to install the .deb packages 

 Regards,
 Ben
 Am Dienstag, 27. Mai 2014 17:05:55 UTC+2 schrieb RobertCNelson:

 On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Robert Nelson robert...@gmail.com 
 wrote: 
  On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 3:35 AM,  family...@googlemail.com wrote: 
  Hi, I'm having trouble in finding a gcc cross toolchain for BBB. 
  
  I'm using the latest debian image for BBB from 
  beagleboard.org/latest-images. 
  
  As host I have a debian wheezy VM. now I'm looking for some days to 
 find a 
  way to compile my project for the debian version. 
  (I already had it working on angstrom, but now as you move on t debian 
 I 
  need to port my code to debian) 
  
  I already tried emdebian.org 
  (https://wiki.debian.org/EmdebianToolchain#Get_the_binaries) but got 
 stuck 
  anywhere. (Can't remember where) 
  I tried miltiarch support from 
  
 https://wiki.debian.org/MultiarchCrossToolchainBuild?action=showredirect=MultiarchCrossToolchains
  
  but this doesn't work. 
  
  Has anybody a working toolchain for 32bit debian wheezy as tar.gz 
 file. 
  
  I'm stuck, please help. 
  
  Well, i posted 64 bit test versions here: 
  http://rcn-ee.net/deb/cross/test/ 
  
  The script to generate them should run fine for 32 bit. 
  
  
 https://github.com/RobertCNelson/cross-compiler/blob/master/build-wheezy-compiler.sh
  
  
  Just make sure you build it in a 100% Debian Wheezy distro (no 
  testing/sid/etc), and we might have to bump some of the file 
  versions as it was a month or ago that i wrote it. 

 Yeap, new tzdata and linux-libc-dev versions in stable, so i just pushed 
 a bump: 


 https://github.com/RobertCNelson/cross-compiler/commit/1eae13c2948ba548a98aef0585ad6bcc26d1ddd9
  

 Regards, 

 -- 
 Robert Nelson 
 http://www.rcn-ee.com/ 



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[beagleboard] Re: WS2801 and Beaglebone

2014-05-28 Thread Mark A. Yoder
Thanks for the detailed instructions.  It's working for me with very little 
effort.  In fact, if your are running the latest Debian image [1] the setup 
is even easier. py-spidev is already installed and you don't have to 
disable the HDMI, rather you just disable a PWM.

   - beagle$ *cat **/sys/devices/bone_capemgr.*/slots*

0: 54:PF--- 
1: 55:PF--- 
2: 56:PF--- 
3: 57:PF--- 
4: ff:P-O-L Bone-LT-eMMC-2G,00A0,Texas Instrument,BB-BONE-EMMC-2G
5: ff:P-O-L Bone-Black-HDMI,00A0,Texas Instrument,BB-BONELT-HDMI
7: ff:P-O-L Override Board Name,00A0,Override Manuf,bspm_P9_42_27
8: ff:P-O-L Override Board Name,00A0,Override Manuf,bspm_P9_41_27
9: ff:P-O-L Override Board Name,00A0,Override Manuf,am33xx_pwm
10: ff:P-O-L Override Board Name,00A0,Override Manuf,bspwm_P9_21_b

   - Slot 10 is the PWM, so disable it with:  beagle$ *echo -10 
/sys/devices/bone_capemgr.*/slots*
   - beagle$ *cat **/sys/devices/bone_capemgr.*/slots*

 0: 54:PF--- 
 1: 55:PF--- 
 2: 56:PF--- 
 3: 57:PF--- 
 4: ff:P-O-L Bone-LT-eMMC-2G,00A0,Texas Instrument,BB-BONE-EMMC-2G
 5: ff:P-O-L Bone-Black-HDMI,00A0,Texas Instrument,BB-BONELT-HDMI
 7: ff:P-O-L Override Board Name,00A0,Override Manuf,bspm_P9_42_27
 8: ff:P-O-L Override Board Name,00A0,Override Manuf,bspm_P9_41_27
 9: ff:P-O-L Override Board Name,00A0,Override Manuf,am33xx_pwm

   - It's gone, next enable SPI 0, beagle$ *echo BB-SPIDEV0  *
   */sys/devices/bone_capemgr.*/slots*

 0: 54:PF--- 
 1: 55:PF--- 
 2: 56:PF--- 
 3: 57:PF--- 
 4: ff:P-O-L Bone-LT-eMMC-2G,00A0,Texas Instrument,BB-BONE-EMMC-2G
 5: ff:P-O-L Bone-Black-HDMI,00A0,Texas Instrument,BB-BONELT-HDMI
 7: ff:P-O-L Override Board Name,00A0,Override Manuf,bspm_P9_42_27
 8: ff:P-O-L Override Board Name,00A0,Override Manuf,bspm_P9_41_27
 9: ff:P-O-L Override Board Name,00A0,Override Manuf,am33xx_pwm
11: ff:P-O-L Override Board Name,00A0,Override Manuf,BB-SPIDEV0

   - SPI is ready to go.  py-spidev is already installed, so back to the 
   original instructions, except, we are running a different SPI, so some 
   adjustments are needed
   - In this repository : 
   
https://github.com/hackerspaceshop/RaspberryPI_WS2801_Bridge/tree/master/software.
 
   Download the 
LedStrip_WS2801.pyhttps://github.com/hackerspaceshop/RaspberryPI_WS2801_Bridge/blob/master/software/LedStrip_WS2801.py
 file 
   to your BB. *Edit LedStrip_WS2801.py and change self.spi.open(0, 1) to 
   self.spi.open(1, 1) since we are using a different SPI device. *You can 
   use the demo.py to have an idea of what you can do with the library.
   - HW time : make sure your led strand is correctly powered (
   http://learn.adafruit.com/adalight-diy-ambient-tv-lighting/wiring-1 if 
   you need help). Wire the led strand input to your BB : GND goes to pin 1 of 
   P9, CO to pin *22* of P9, DO to pin *18* of P9.
   - Finally run *python demo.py*

I powered the string off of a 5V supply and controlled it with the bone at 
3.3V.  This worked fine for about 90 LEDs, after that the colors weren't 
right.  I'm going to try a level converter to see if I can control a string 
of 240 LEDs.

--Mark

[1] http://beagleboard.org/latest-images/ 

On Sunday, October 27, 2013 11:37:21 AM UTC-4, jocelyn@gmail.com wrote:

 I've just managed to make it work so I will give some feedback for those 
 who would like to do the same.

- Start with a fresh Angstrom kernel.
- Disable HDMI :
   - Plug in the mini-usb cable from your board to your computer, open 
   the Beaglebone partition and the uEnv.txt inside it.
   - Add this to the file : 
   capemgr.disable_partno=BB-BONELT-HDMI,BB-BONELT-HDMIN
- Boot the board. Run : *cat /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.*/slots*. You 
should see the two lines concerning the HDMI with P-O-- flags. There's no 
 L 
in this so it means it is disabled. 
- Follow the instructions to enable SPI : 

 http://hipstercircuits.com/enable-spi-with-device-tree-on-beaglebone-black-copy-paste/.
  You don't need to try the bus yet, just make sure to download the python 
libraries he mentioned. 
- You have rebooted your board, if you run  *cat 
/sys/devices/bone_capemgr.*/slots *you should see a line with 
BB-SPI1-01.
- Download this to your BB : https://github.com/doceme/py-spidev 
- Run *python setup.py install*
- In this repository : 

 https://github.com/hackerspaceshop/RaspberryPI_WS2801_Bridge/tree/master/software.
  
Download the 
 LedStrip_WS2801.pyhttps://github.com/hackerspaceshop/RaspberryPI_WS2801_Bridge/blob/master/software/LedStrip_WS2801.pyfile
  to your BB. You can use the demo.py to have an idea of what you can do 
with the library.
- HW time : make sure your led strand is correctly powered (
http://learn.adafruit.com/adalight-diy-ambient-tv-lighting/wiring-1 if 
you need help). Wire the led strand input to your BB : GND goes to pin 1 
 of 
P9, CO to pin 31 of P9, DO to pin 30 of P9.
- Finally run *python demo.py*

 Enjoy ! If it helped you, just 

Re: [beagleboard] Slow boot sequence caused by Cape Manager and Device Tree Overlaying

2014-05-28 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
On 5/26/2014 7:28 AM, becker.vos...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thank you for the feedback Charles.  
 I am new to the Device Tree concept and would appreciate it a lot if you 
 can please give me more guidance. Below is the contents of the device tree 
 file I used.
 Basically the idea was to define the pins for the pin-mux and then enable 
 the pin-mux settings by using the __overlay__ scheme.  
 Without using the __overlay__ scheme, how would I enable the pin-mux 
 settings,in this device tree file for example?

Sorry for the delay, I'm traveling.  Review RCN's simple cape manager
for the newer kernels, he's doing exactly what you want (mixing some
device tree stanzas that would typically be overlays directly into the
boot time device tree).  That and a review of the device tree source in
the kernel tree (which makes extensive use of include) and a review of
the flattened device tree (convert the *.dtb to the *.dts source with
dtc for review) should get you started.

-- 
Charles Steinkuehler
char...@steinkuehler.net

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[beagleboard] gcc: command not found. Error while compiling c - program

2014-05-28 Thread milkyway
I installed ubuntu 13.10 for my BeagleBoard Rev-C3 and I am not able to 
connect the board to internet

But when I tried to compile on c-program 

ubuntu@arm:~$ gcc test.c
-bash: gcc: command not found


which gcc gives no result.
ubuntu@arm:~$ which gcc
ubuntu@arm:~$



A search for gcc gives

ubuntu@arm:~$ sudo find / -name '*gcc*'
[sudo] password for ubuntu:
/var/lib/dpkg/info/libgcc1:armhf.symbols
/var/lib/dpkg/info/gcc-4.8-base:armhf.md5sums
/var/lib/dpkg/info/libgcc1:armhf.md5sums
/var/lib/dpkg/info/gcc-4.8-base:armhf.list
/var/lib/dpkg/info/libgcc1:armhf.shlibs
/var/lib/dpkg/info/libgcc1:armhf.postinst
/var/lib/dpkg/info/libgcc1:armhf.postrm
/var/lib/dpkg/info/libgcc1:armhf.list
/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libgcc_s.so.1
/home/dell/sources/vim74/runtime/compiler/gcc.vim
/usr/share/lintian/overrides/libgcc1
/usr/share/doc/gcc-4.8-base
/usr/share/doc/libgcc1
/usr/lib/gcc



and the folder /usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux-gnueabihf contain two folders(4.8 and 
4.8.1(, but both are empty.
ubuntu@arm:/usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux-gnueabihf$ ls
4.8  4.8.1

Can anybody help on this issue?

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[beagleboard] Using /etc/init/_.conf for autostarting services

2014-05-28 Thread Colin Bester
I am looking to add a auto start service using conf file in /etc/init but 
it seems that debian version on BBB presently only supports older style 
/etc/init.d sys  init scripts.

I thought I'd ask the group before starting to add packages to install on 
whether this newer version is supported or should I go straight to using 
systemd for startup of services.

My aim is not to stray to far from base debian image in these early days.

~C

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Re: [beagleboard] Cross Toolchain for Debian Wheezy

2014-05-28 Thread Robert Nelson
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:57 AM,  familyheld...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Back again!

 I your script did run a while on my machine, now I have some .deb packages
 in the ./deploy folder.
 (I'm using my debian wheezy 32Bit vm (Linux debian-wheezy-vm 3.2.0-4-486 #1
 Debian 3.2.51-1 i686 GNU/Linux)

 As far as I could see the script did run without problems.

 Binutils and some other stuff already did get installed to my /usr/bin
 folder.
 g++ is not installed.
 As far as I understand your script as a linux novice it should have been
 installed by some call to dpkg_cross.

Correct, the cross built binutils needs to be installed to build gcc/g++

 I already tried to manually install all the .deb packages from deploy folder
 with
 dpkg -i xzz.deb -force
 but this is failing because of dependency problems.

sudo dpkg -i *.deb from the output directory should install it

 Two questions:
 1. Is there a possibility to specify a prefix for the whole toolchain? (like
 angstrom toolchain has /usr/local/angstrom)

It'll be something like that, i need to fire up my wheezy vm and
double check (running jessie)

 2. how to install the .deb packages

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Re: [beagleboard] Cross Toolchain for Debian Wheezy

2014-05-28 Thread Robert Nelson
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 7:31 AM,  halhe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Robert,
 Can't we simply use one of the Linaro cross compiling toolchains to
 cross-compile for a Debian based BBB installation?
 Does this mean we absolutely must run Wheezy on our PC to be able to
 cross-compile for the BBB with a Debian image.?

This cross compiler script/deb's are for people who want to cross
build using the same exact libraries/gcc/g++ versions that are on the
debian image.

You can use Linaro's cross tools as is.

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Re: [beagleboard] gcc: command not found. Error while compiling c - program

2014-05-28 Thread Robert Nelson
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:14 AM, milkyway muhammednouf...@gmail.com wrote:
 I installed ubuntu 13.10 for my BeagleBoard Rev-C3 and I am not able to
 connect the board to internet

 But when I tried to compile on c-program

 ubuntu@arm:~$ gcc test.c
 -bash: gcc: command not found


 which gcc gives no result.
 ubuntu@arm:~$ which gcc
 ubuntu@arm:~$



 A search for gcc gives

 ubuntu@arm:~$ sudo find / -name '*gcc*'
 [sudo] password for ubuntu:
 /var/lib/dpkg/info/libgcc1:armhf.symbols
 /var/lib/dpkg/info/gcc-4.8-base:armhf.md5sums
 /var/lib/dpkg/info/libgcc1:armhf.md5sums
 /var/lib/dpkg/info/gcc-4.8-base:armhf.list
 /var/lib/dpkg/info/libgcc1:armhf.shlibs
 /var/lib/dpkg/info/libgcc1:armhf.postinst
 /var/lib/dpkg/info/libgcc1:armhf.postrm
 /var/lib/dpkg/info/libgcc1:armhf.list
 /lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libgcc_s.so.1
 /home/dell/sources/vim74/runtime/compiler/gcc.vim
 /usr/share/lintian/overrides/libgcc1
 /usr/share/doc/gcc-4.8-base
 /usr/share/doc/libgcc1
 /usr/lib/gcc



 and the folder /usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux-gnueabihf contain two folders(4.8 and
 4.8.1(, but both are empty.
 ubuntu@arm:/usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux-gnueabihf$ ls
 4.8  4.8.1

 Can anybody help on this issue?

voodoo@hades:~$ which gcc
/usr/bin/gcc

It's not installed:

sudo apt-get install gcc

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Can the BBB get damaged due to a hard power down?

2014-05-28 Thread Robert Nelson
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 7:06 AM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
m...@avtechpulse.com wrote:
 I really donšt see how this can work. First, the supercaps are 2.5v so you


 No:

 http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/PHB-5R0V505-R/283-3520-ND/2770536

Actually if you cut one of those open, it's two 2.5v supercap with a
balance resistor network.

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Re: [beagleboard] Using /etc/init/_.conf for autostarting services

2014-05-28 Thread Robert Nelson
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:15 AM, Colin Bester bester.co...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am looking to add a auto start service using conf file in /etc/init but it
 seems that debian version on BBB presently only supports older style
 /etc/init.d sys  init scripts.

 I thought I'd ask the group before starting to add packages to install on
 whether this newer version is supported or should I go straight to using
 systemd for startup of services.

 My aim is not to stray to far from base debian image in these early days.

systemd is enabled in the debian image here:

http://beagleboard.org/latest-images

and /etc/init.d/* style script are still run in a systemd
compatibility script.

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Re: [beagleboard] Using /etc/init/_.conf for autostarting services

2014-05-28 Thread Colin Bester
Thanks

On May 28, 2014, at 8:28 AM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:15 AM, Colin Bester bester.co...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am looking to add a auto start service using conf file in /etc/init but it
 seems that debian version on BBB presently only supports older style
 /etc/init.d sys  init scripts.
 
 I thought I'd ask the group before starting to add packages to install on
 whether this newer version is supported or should I go straight to using
 systemd for startup of services.
 
 My aim is not to stray to far from base debian image in these early days.
 
 systemd is enabled in the debian image here:
 
 http://beagleboard.org/latest-images
 
 and /etc/init.d/* style script are still run in a systemd
 compatibility script.
 
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Re: [beagleboard] Cross Toolchain for Debian Wheezy

2014-05-28 Thread familyheld . am
Yeah!
sudo dpkg -i *.deb did do the trick.

I see now that only one dpkg call specifying all deb packages at once 
resolves the dependencies but fireing dpkg -i command for each file alone 
(even in a for each x in-loop) does not work. - something new learned-

Many thanks, I will now try to compile my project (using qt; this means I 
need to recompile my qteverywhere also... damn.. so much left to do...)

BTW: I also stumbled upon the linaro toolchain you mention here 
(http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black#BeagleBoneBlack-uEnv.txtbasedbootscript)
Is it an worth considering alternative for this 
home-brew-self-compiled-toolchain ?

regards,
Ben

Am Mittwoch, 28. Mai 2014 15:20:37 UTC+2 schrieb RobertCNelson:

 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:57 AM,  family...@googlemail.com javascript: 
 wrote: 
  Back again! 
  
  I your script did run a while on my machine, now I have some .deb 
 packages 
  in the ./deploy folder. 
  (I'm using my debian wheezy 32Bit vm (Linux debian-wheezy-vm 3.2.0-4-486 
 #1 
  Debian 3.2.51-1 i686 GNU/Linux) 
  
  As far as I could see the script did run without problems. 
  
  Binutils and some other stuff already did get installed to my /usr/bin 
  folder. 
  g++ is not installed. 
  As far as I understand your script as a linux novice it should have been 
  installed by some call to dpkg_cross. 

 Correct, the cross built binutils needs to be installed to build 
 gcc/g++ 

  I already tried to manually install all the .deb packages from deploy 
 folder 
  with 
  dpkg -i xzz.deb -force 
  but this is failing because of dependency problems. 

 sudo dpkg -i *.deb from the output directory should install it 

  Two questions: 
  1. Is there a possibility to specify a prefix for the whole toolchain? 
 (like 
  angstrom toolchain has /usr/local/angstrom) 

 It'll be something like that, i need to fire up my wheezy vm and 
 double check (running jessie) 

  2. how to install the .deb packages 

 Regards, 

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Re: [beagleboard] Cross Toolchain for Debian Wheezy

2014-05-28 Thread Robert Nelson
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:36 AM,  familyheld...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Yeah!
 sudo dpkg -i *.deb did do the trick.

 I see now that only one dpkg call specifying all deb packages at once
 resolves the dependencies but fireing dpkg -i command for each file alone
 (even in a for each x in-loop) does not work. - something new learned-

 Many thanks, I will now try to compile my project (using qt; this means I
 need to recompile my qteverywhere also... damn.. so much left to do...)

 BTW: I also stumbled upon the linaro toolchain you mention here
 (http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black#BeagleBoneBlack-uEnv.txtbasedbootscript)
 Is it an worth considering alternative for this
 home-brew-self-compiled-toolchain ?

There's nothing wrong with the linaro toolchain. Some
users/customers want an exact gcc/lib/etc match with the gcc/lib/etc
on the debian image.

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Re: [beagleboard] gcc: command not found. Error while compiling c - program

2014-05-28 Thread Robert Nelson
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:57 AM, milkyway muhammednouf...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't know whether it's relevant to ask, any way.. I haven't connected the
 board to internet yet. So can I use internet over usb0? or is it possible to
 install it after downloading the source separately?

Sure... if you properly setup usb0 on the beagle and the host networked pc

It has a few dependices, best just to get networking working first,
then use apt-get to install it.

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Re: [beagleboard] gcc: command not found. Error while compiling c - program

2014-05-28 Thread milkyway
I don't know whether it's relevant to ask, any way.. I haven't connected 
the board to internet yet. So can I use internet over usb0? or is it 
possible to install it after downloading the source separately?

Thanks

On Wednesday, 28 May 2014 18:54:19 UTC+5:30, RobertCNelson wrote:

 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:14 AM, milkyway muhamme...@gmail.comjavascript: 
 wrote: 
  I installed ubuntu 13.10 for my BeagleBoard Rev-C3 and I am not able to 
  connect the board to internet 
  
  But when I tried to compile on c-program 
  
  ubuntu@arm:~$ gcc test.c 
  -bash: gcc: command not found 
  
  
  which gcc gives no result. 
  ubuntu@arm:~$ which gcc 
  ubuntu@arm:~$ 
  
  
  
  A search for gcc gives 
  
  ubuntu@arm:~$ sudo find / -name '*gcc*' 
  [sudo] password for ubuntu: 
  /var/lib/dpkg/info/libgcc1:armhf.symbols 
  /var/lib/dpkg/info/gcc-4.8-base:armhf.md5sums 
  /var/lib/dpkg/info/libgcc1:armhf.md5sums 
  /var/lib/dpkg/info/gcc-4.8-base:armhf.list 
  /var/lib/dpkg/info/libgcc1:armhf.shlibs 
  /var/lib/dpkg/info/libgcc1:armhf.postinst 
  /var/lib/dpkg/info/libgcc1:armhf.postrm 
  /var/lib/dpkg/info/libgcc1:armhf.list 
  /lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libgcc_s.so.1 
  /home/dell/sources/vim74/runtime/compiler/gcc.vim 
  /usr/share/lintian/overrides/libgcc1 
  /usr/share/doc/gcc-4.8-base 
  /usr/share/doc/libgcc1 
  /usr/lib/gcc 
  
  
  
  and the folder /usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux-gnueabihf contain two folders(4.8 
 and 
  4.8.1(, but both are empty. 
  ubuntu@arm:/usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux-gnueabihf$ ls 
  4.8  4.8.1 
  
  Can anybody help on this issue? 

 voodoo@hades:~$ which gcc 
 /usr/bin/gcc 

 It's not installed: 

 sudo apt-get install gcc 

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Re: [beagleboard] Cross Toolchain for Debian Wheezy

2014-05-28 Thread familyheld . am
OK, thanks for making things clear.
So I also think the way to go is using the same toolchain for the kernel 
and the user binaries 
- I will (try to) use the linaro toolchain.

thanks so far.

regards, 
Ben

Am Mittwoch, 28. Mai 2014 15:39:21 UTC+2 schrieb RobertCNelson:

 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:36 AM,  family...@googlemail.com javascript: 
 wrote: 
  Yeah! 
  sudo dpkg -i *.deb did do the trick. 
  
  I see now that only one dpkg call specifying all deb packages at once 
  resolves the dependencies but fireing dpkg -i command for each file 
 alone 
  (even in a for each x in-loop) does not work. - something new learned- 
  
  Many thanks, I will now try to compile my project (using qt; this means 
 I 
  need to recompile my qteverywhere also... damn.. so much left to do...) 
  
  BTW: I also stumbled upon the linaro toolchain you mention here 
  (
 http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black#BeagleBoneBlack-uEnv.txtbasedbootscript)
  

  Is it an worth considering alternative for this 
  home-brew-self-compiled-toolchain ? 

 There's nothing wrong with the linaro toolchain. Some 
 users/customers want an exact gcc/lib/etc match with the gcc/lib/etc 
 on the debian image. 

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Re: [beagleboard] USB power and Hotplug problem

2014-05-28 Thread duartecarona

Hi,

Thank you for the response.

The boot issue i've solved it with a soft start circuit and now it is 
working.

The hot plug problem, i'm still struggling to find a solution because i 
can't find one, is there any suggestions to solve it?

Thanks.

Duarte Carona 


Terça-feira, 27 de Maio de 2014 15:33:04 UTC+1, RobertCNelson escreveu:

 On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 5:33 AM,  duarte...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote: 
  
  Hi, 
  
  I've been working with USB Hub from Texas Instruments (TSUB2046BVF) and 
 i've 
  tried to plug it to my BBB and everything works fine if i plug devices 
  before BBB boot up but when i unplug and plug again (hotplug) it is not 
  recognized. 
  
  Based on some forum posts I realized that this is a Software problem on 
 the 
  BBB, so my question is if there's any new update or some workaround to 
 solve 
  this problem? 
  
  Another question is regarding the power using only the USB, is there any 
  current restrictions during BBB boot up? because if i power some HW to 
 BBB 
  5V (consuming about 150mA) the BBB does not boot. 

 Well, the usb spec gives you only 100mA till you request more. So I 
 don't see that design booting off a standard usb port any time soon. 

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[beagleboard] Using BeagleBone with JavaScript/Node.js

2014-05-28 Thread irelandathome
Hi,

I'm interested in looking at using BB with Node.js. If I come up with some 
test ideas, is it likely that I could find a production version of a board 
which would still allow me to use JavaScript or would I have to rewrite my 
solution with C or some C variant?

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Re: [beagleboard] Using BeagleBone with JavaScript/Node.js

2014-05-28 Thread David Farning
Please check out bonescript at http://beagleboard.org/Support/BoneScript .

On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 6:26 AM,  irelandath...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm interested in looking at using BB with Node.js. If I come up with some
 test ideas, is it likely that I could find a production version of a board
 which would still allow me to use JavaScript or would I have to rewrite my
 solution with C or some C variant?

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Commercial use of BeagleBone

2014-05-28 Thread agkruse
Gerald,
it seems getting no answer from CCo is a common experience. We have tried on 
phone, cellphone, fax, email and not received any reply since 8 weeks.As we had 
bought a four digit number of units in the past and about to repeat the same, 
we had expected a better service.
Also no communication on outstanding units not delivered and RMAs
From our own production we know that customer service tends to suffer when 
things run hot, but we still believe we deserve better.
Appreciate your hint to CCo or any advise what we may do better.
Andy

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[beagleboard] Re: Availability - how come nobody has any BeagleBone Black to sell?

2014-05-28 Thread shahzkk
I have got a BBB. I had took it for my capstone project but due to it new 
functionality we were unable to use it for our purpose.
I stay in India and I am willing to sell it for 4k INR.
Plz do let me know if anybody needs it.

On Monday, January 6, 2014 5:45:51 PM UTC-8, Paul Wright wrote:

 I was just curious why none of my usual distributors have any BeagleBone 
 Black boards in stock and most are reporting lead times that are beyond 
 belief.  Has there been some supply chain disturbance I have missed?  
 Shortage of a key component?

 Just seems strange...

 I'm evaluating a potential use but if there are going to be supply issues 
 going forward, that is a concern.

 Does anyone have any information they can offer?

 Regards,

 paul





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[beagleboard] Re: Angstrom linux kernel build fails at setup

2014-05-28 Thread luismi80
Hi,

I'm experiencing the same problem with elfutils.. Any solution so far?

Cheers,
Luis

El lunes, 11 de noviembre de 2013 06:18:41 UTC+1, chaitra.k...@gmail.com 
escribió:

 Hi

 Even i have been facing the same error

 Processing bitbake: Fixed to revision 
 7e3a99949358f4362876df5a82f8aeaae72c3c97, skipping update
 Processing meta-angstrom: Current branch angstrom-v2012.12-yocto1.3 is up 
 to date.
 Processing meta-openembedded: Current branch angstrom-staging-yocto1.3 is 
 up to date.
 Processing meta-beagleboard: Current branch danny is up to date.
 Processing meta-ti: Current branch angstrom-staging-yocto1.3 is up to date.
 Processing meta-ettus: Fixed to revision 
 5a6a642f6707dc42a5210dbbf01d2bdfd869d4b0, skipping update
 Processing meta-efikamx: Fixed to revision 
 07f2a5c777b4f866985735303bc6d696592760a9, skipping update
 Processing meta-nslu2: Fixed to revision 
 8948458fe3ec2b3c713b2a13a87123b64e22b0d9, skipping update
 Processing meta-smartphone: Current branch danny is up to date.
 Processing meta-intel: Fixed to revision 
 98342e9e685ac8066f7fe2517fd382127a286648, skipping update
 Processing meta-xilinx: Fixed to revision 
 d196fa93c7ff5e080d4c44e2b83aed472f32b2c7, skipping update
 Processing meta-openpandora: Fixed to revision 
 bdd973321efabf9da4ac7bbc5e18ecab257841a3, skipping update
 Processing meta-raspberrypi: Current branch danny is up to date.
 Processing meta-handheld: Current branch danny is up to date.
 Processing meta-opie: Fixed to revision 
 c242efc6ca55772a88602f1f8f94dff697b38430, skipping update
 Processing meta-java: Fixed to revision 
 75dee76c7cfbf1418e5c581f50bb57b3282013f7, skipping update
 Processing meta-browser: Current branch angstrom-staging-yocto1.3 is up to 
 date.
 Processing meta-mono: Fixed to revision 
 adf47f078dbf788a80ff1398a15a4fd5a334d320, skipping update
 Processing meta-kde: Fixed to revision 
 316d9c27e72cfebc7618268f8766624ee3f5e18e, skipping update
 Processing meta-linaro: Current branch danny is up to date.
 Processing meta-minnow: Current branch danny is up to date.
 Processing meta-allwinner: Current branch danny is up to date.
 Processing meta-ros: Fixed to revision 
 1a6a63ef2316a45a2fa07e00907a73d33aeeb7d7, skipping update
 Processing openembedded-core: Using 
 /home/chaitra32bit/.oe/environment-angstromv2012.12 to setup needed 
 variables. It is recommended to do '. 
 /home/chaitra32bit/.oe/environment-angstromv2012.12' and run 'bitbake 
 something' without using ./oebb.sh as wrapper
 Executing: MACHINE=beagleboard bitbake virtual/kernel
 Loading cache...done.
 Loaded 3162 entries from dependency cache.
 Parsing recipes...done.
 Parsing of 2649 .bb files complete (2645 cached, 4 parsed). 3168 targets, 
 120 skipped, 0 masked, 0 errors.
 WARNING: No recipes available for:
   
 /home/chaitra32bit/bb/sources/meta-handheld/recipes-core/udev/udev_164.bbappend
   
 /home/chaitra32bit/bb/sources/meta-intel/meta-fri2/recipes-core/tiny-init/tiny-init.bbappend

 Build Configuration:
 BB_VERSION= 1.17.0
 TARGET_ARCH   = arm
 TARGET_OS = linux-gnueabi
 MACHINE   = beagleboard
 DISTRO= angstrom
 DISTRO_VERSION= v2012.12
 TUNE_FEATURES = armv7a vfp neon cortexa8
 TARGET_FPU= vfp-neon
 meta-angstrom = 
 angstrom-v2012.12-yocto1.3:b7f8207b94d9a0ece73ad212a193cb2c95bd17ee
 meta-oe   
 meta-systemd  
 meta-efl  
 meta-gpe  
 meta-gnome
 meta-xfce 
 meta-initramfs
 toolchain-layer   
 meta-multimedia   
 meta-networking   
 meta-webserver
 meta-ruby = 
 angstrom-staging-yocto1.3:c24d2b6dfd00724b3182977e19a153492afe9343
 meta-kde  = master:316d9c27e72cfebc7618268f8766624ee3f5e18e
 meta-opie = master:c242efc6ca55772a88602f1f8f94dff697b38430
 meta-java = master:75dee76c7cfbf1418e5c581f50bb57b3282013f7
 meta-browser  = 
 angstrom-staging-yocto1.3:011dbb273ac725e5a9e62ae36b8e538b2e9eb09c
 meta-mono = master:adf47f078dbf788a80ff1398a15a4fd5a334d320
 meta-ros  = master:1a6a63ef2316a45a2fa07e00907a73d33aeeb7d7
 common-bsp= danny:136a28e4d16a03ee9a5e51d6e378f1b80c618b28
 meta-ti   = 
 angstrom-staging-yocto1.3:69132771c1332951f424beeeb54dcb70a8a73541
 meta-efikamx  = master:07f2a5c777b4f866985735303bc6d696592760a9
 meta-nslu2= master:8948458fe3ec2b3c713b2a13a87123b64e22b0d9
 meta-htc  
 meta-nokia
 meta-openmoko 
 meta-palm = danny:924338ee2d44987da71088da31e1cd31d3a9dfa9
 meta-handheld = danny:d641e71a7c09cd24c72e690ad1981e49da612bcd
 meta-intel
 meta-sugarbay 
 meta-crownbay 
 meta-emenlow  
 meta-fri2 
 meta-jasperforest 
 meta-n450 = danny:98342e9e685ac8066f7fe2517fd382127a286648
 meta-allwinner= danny:3603ce61c075d2f6a23dbe0bd71ee604f7eb24ea
 meta-raspberrypi  = danny:1ad98cf651054982c1a69576c1663285f0090034
 meta-minnow   = danny:182ae8dca4e29cfc9335e19a4d4c5a8511c9fcf6
 meta-linaro   = 

[beagleboard] Re: BBB: lack of memory

2014-05-28 Thread poulkjaerchr
I'm sorry about the double posting...
/Poul C

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: BBB: lack of memory

2014-05-28 Thread Gerald Coley
If you register, the double posts won't happen.

Gerald



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 I'm sorry about the double posting...
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Re: [beagleboard] Boot sequence

2014-05-28 Thread Gerald Coley
Yes it would. This is all documented in the SRM.

http://www.elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack#LATEST_PRODUCTION_FILES_.28C.29

Gerald



On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 11:44 PM, karlkarpfe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Assumed there is no eMMC available on BBB, would it boot from SD-card
 automatically as first boot device?

 From my understanding this is what BeagleBone White does - but are there
 any more differences than just the eMMC to let it boot in an other order?

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Re: [beagleboard] Boot sequence

2014-05-28 Thread Robert Nelson
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 11:44 PM,  karlkarpfe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Assumed there is no eMMC available on BBB, would it boot from SD-card
 automatically as first boot device?

yes

 From my understanding this is what BeagleBone White does - but are there any
 more differences than just the eMMC to let it boot in an other order?

https://github.com/CircuitCo/BeagleBone-Black/blob/master/BBB_SCH.pdf

page 6 of 11, sysboot pins 4:0 control the peripheral boot sequence from rom.

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Using RS485 in the serial ports

2014-05-28 Thread Robert Nelson
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 2:38 AM,  lexduples...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry for taking so long to come back but was a bit busy. It looks like the
 RS 485 patch is not included in the standard Debian release for the
 Beaglebone Black (with all the other patches that is included). So if you
 are using Debian on the Beaglebone Black you have to apply the RS 485 patch
 of Mickae1 manually before compiling else you could replace
 /kernel/drivers/tty/serial/omap-serial.c with the code at the end and also
 replace /kernel/uapi/linux/serial.h with the code at the end and recompile.
 Then just pass the structure as discussed above. Make these changes before
 applying the additional patches for the Debian image.

So what exactly are we missing for RS 485 support?

https://github.com/RobertCNelson/bb-kernel/blob/am33x-v3.8/patch.sh#L866

https://github.com/RobertCNelson/bb-kernel/blob/am33x-v3.8/patches/fixes/0007-omap-RS485-support-by-Michael-Musset.patch

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Commercial use of BeagleBone

2014-05-28 Thread Gerald Coley
Find somebody else to do business with.

Gerald



On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:56 AM, agkr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Gerald,
 it seems getting no answer from CCo is a common experience. We have tried
 on phone, cellphone, fax, email and not received any reply since 8 weeks.As
 we had bought a four digit number of units in the past and about to repeat
 the same, we had expected a better service.
 Also no communication on outstanding units not delivered and RMAs
 From our own production we know that customer service tends to suffer when
 things run hot, but we still believe we deserve better.
 Appreciate your hint to CCo or any advise what we may do better.
 Andy

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Using RS485 in the serial ports

2014-05-28 Thread Micka
Robert  It works perfectly your Debian Image with the RS485   I
don't understand what is the problem  .




Regards,


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 2:38 AM,  lexduples...@gmail.com wrote:
  Sorry for taking so long to come back but was a bit busy. It looks like
 the
  RS 485 patch is not included in the standard Debian release for the
  Beaglebone Black (with all the other patches that is included). So if you
  are using Debian on the Beaglebone Black you have to apply the RS 485
 patch
  of Mickae1 manually before compiling else you could replace
  /kernel/drivers/tty/serial/omap-serial.c with the code at the end and
 also
  replace /kernel/uapi/linux/serial.h with the code at the end and
 recompile.
  Then just pass the structure as discussed above. Make these changes
 before
  applying the additional patches for the Debian image.

 So what exactly are we missing for RS 485 support?

 https://github.com/RobertCNelson/bb-kernel/blob/am33x-v3.8/patch.sh#L866


 https://github.com/RobertCNelson/bb-kernel/blob/am33x-v3.8/patches/fixes/0007-omap-RS485-support-by-Michael-Musset.patch

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Commercial use of BeagleBone

2014-05-28 Thread David Farning
Please correct me if I am wrong.

At this point everyone involved in the development and manufacturing
of the BeagleBone Black is doing so at break-even or a financial loss.
This is an intentional strategy to build a critical mass of students,
hackers, and hobbyist to create an ecosystem around the development
system.

This is a good long term strategy and a socially responsible position.
Ideally, a healthy ecosystem will continue to grow around the TI based
chip and the Circuit Co based board.

The challenge comes, as we saw with power up and power down, when
others expect a social responsibility project to meet their needs as a
commercial product.

Again, as I understand it, Circuit Co is at their maximum
manufacturing capacity for the BBB. Everywhere I look, the BBB is sold
out with-in hours of a distributor receiving a batch. Many of the
distributors have agree to sell one per customer until the supply
situation is resolved.

Their goal, at this point, is to get as many units as possible into
hands of students,  hackers, and hobbyists to build the ecosystem of
hardware and software developers who have a history of adding value
back into an open project.

This is new ground for many people and it will take a while for
everyone to understand how the pieces fit together. The good news is
that everything on the BBB is open so anyone is welcome to manufacture
of modify it to meet their needs.

Dave

On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:56 AM,  agkr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Gerald,
 it seems getting no answer from CCo is a common experience. We have tried on 
 phone, cellphone, fax, email and not received any reply since 8 weeks.As we 
 had bought a four digit number of units in the past and about to repeat the 
 same, we had expected a better service.
 Also no communication on outstanding units not delivered and RMAs
 From our own production we know that customer service tends to suffer when 
 things run hot, but we still believe we deserve better.
 Appreciate your hint to CCo or any advise what we may do better.
 Andy

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Commercial use of BeagleBone

2014-05-28 Thread Gerald Coley
And people wonder why I do not recommend using these boards in products.
More capacity is ramping now and so far it is looking good.

Gerald



On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:03 AM, David Farning dfarn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Please correct me if I am wrong.

 At this point everyone involved in the development and manufacturing
 of the BeagleBone Black is doing so at break-even or a financial loss.
 This is an intentional strategy to build a critical mass of students,
 hackers, and hobbyist to create an ecosystem around the development
 system.

 This is a good long term strategy and a socially responsible position.
 Ideally, a healthy ecosystem will continue to grow around the TI based
 chip and the Circuit Co based board.

 The challenge comes, as we saw with power up and power down, when
 others expect a social responsibility project to meet their needs as a
 commercial product.

 Again, as I understand it, Circuit Co is at their maximum
 manufacturing capacity for the BBB. Everywhere I look, the BBB is sold
 out with-in hours of a distributor receiving a batch. Many of the
 distributors have agree to sell one per customer until the supply
 situation is resolved.

 Their goal, at this point, is to get as many units as possible into
 hands of students,  hackers, and hobbyists to build the ecosystem of
 hardware and software developers who have a history of adding value
 back into an open project.

 This is new ground for many people and it will take a while for
 everyone to understand how the pieces fit together. The good news is
 that everything on the BBB is open so anyone is welcome to manufacture
 of modify it to meet their needs.

 Dave

 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:56 AM,  agkr...@gmail.com wrote:
  Gerald,
  it seems getting no answer from CCo is a common experience. We have
 tried on phone, cellphone, fax, email and not received any reply since 8
 weeks.As we had bought a four digit number of units in the past and about
 to repeat the same, we had expected a better service.
  Also no communication on outstanding units not delivered and RMAs
  From our own production we know that customer service tends to suffer
 when things run hot, but we still believe we deserve better.
  Appreciate your hint to CCo or any advise what we may do better.
  Andy
 
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[beagleboard] Re: Wireless Communication with BeagleBone Black

2014-05-28 Thread josesalgadop
Could you send me the code? josesalga...@gmail.com

El jueves, 21 de noviembre de 2013 09:48:20 UTC-5, rwhi...@me.com escribió:

 I did a similar thing with a phone instead of a laptop and a BB White 
 instead of a BBB.
 I just sent ASCII strings over UDP.
 Don't forget zeroconf so you don't have to hard code IP addresses.

 Beaglebone Network Services http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAaiEUTmpMU

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAaiEUTmpMU

 I don't make money from my youtube BTW.


 On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:57:41 PM UTC-6, ghostma...@gmail.comwrote:

  am needing help with my project and I wondering if you guys can help.

 I need some form of TCP/UDP communication set up between my BeagleBone 
 Black and my laptop. 
 I am wondering if I can set up some form of local network through a 
 wireless router connected to my laptop so that my laptop and the BeagleBone 
 Black can have some form of TCP/UDP connection with each other. I have a 
 wireless USB adapter connected to the BeagleBone Black  so that it 
 can connect to wireless networks.

 An alternative would be to connect my router to the BeagleBone Black  and 
 set up a local network (without connecting to the internet). Then I can 
 make my laptop connect to the local network and have some form of tcp 
 communication with the BeagleBone Black.

 Usage: Robotics competition where I have an application running in a 
 laptop which is trying to send commands to a robot which is about 50-70 
 feet away wirelessly.

 Thanks



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Re: [beagleboard] Using BeagleBone with JavaScript/Node.js

2014-05-28 Thread John Syn

From:  irelandath...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Wednesday, May 28, 2014 at 4:26 AM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  [beagleboard] Using BeagleBone with JavaScript/Node.js

 Hi,
 
 I'm interested in looking at using BB with Node.js. If I come up with some
 test ideas, is it likely that I could find a production version of a board
 which would still allow me to use JavaScript or would I have to rewrite my
 solution with C or some C variant?
You can use Node.js on any board version. There are no restrictions.
 
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Commercial use of BeagleBone

2014-05-28 Thread William Hermans
How many times has it been said here that the board is not supported for
commercial use ?  What does this mean ? It means if you use the beagleBone
Black( and probably all the others, but I have not looked ) in a commercial
product, you're on your own.

Pretty sure beagleboard.org pages ( among others ? ) say the exact same
thing.

I wonder how many time it needs to be said before it sinks in ?

Am I wrong ? Maybe my English skills need polishing . . .


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Gerald Coley ger...@beagleboard.orgwrote:

 And people wonder why I do not recommend using these boards in products.
 More capacity is ramping now and so far it is looking good.

 Gerald



 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:03 AM, David Farning dfarn...@gmail.comwrote:

 Please correct me if I am wrong.

 At this point everyone involved in the development and manufacturing
 of the BeagleBone Black is doing so at break-even or a financial loss.
 This is an intentional strategy to build a critical mass of students,
 hackers, and hobbyist to create an ecosystem around the development
 system.

 This is a good long term strategy and a socially responsible position.
 Ideally, a healthy ecosystem will continue to grow around the TI based
 chip and the Circuit Co based board.

 The challenge comes, as we saw with power up and power down, when
 others expect a social responsibility project to meet their needs as a
 commercial product.

 Again, as I understand it, Circuit Co is at their maximum
 manufacturing capacity for the BBB. Everywhere I look, the BBB is sold
 out with-in hours of a distributor receiving a batch. Many of the
 distributors have agree to sell one per customer until the supply
 situation is resolved.

 Their goal, at this point, is to get as many units as possible into
 hands of students,  hackers, and hobbyists to build the ecosystem of
 hardware and software developers who have a history of adding value
 back into an open project.

 This is new ground for many people and it will take a while for
 everyone to understand how the pieces fit together. The good news is
 that everything on the BBB is open so anyone is welcome to manufacture
 of modify it to meet their needs.

 Dave

 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:56 AM,  agkr...@gmail.com wrote:
  Gerald,
  it seems getting no answer from CCo is a common experience. We have
 tried on phone, cellphone, fax, email and not received any reply since 8
 weeks.As we had bought a four digit number of units in the past and about
 to repeat the same, we had expected a better service.
  Also no communication on outstanding units not delivered and RMAs
  From our own production we know that customer service tends to suffer
 when things run hot, but we still believe we deserve better.
  Appreciate your hint to CCo or any advise what we may do better.
  Andy
 
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Commercial use of BeagleBone

2014-05-28 Thread Robert Nelson
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:27 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:
 How many times has it been said here that the board is not supported for
 commercial use ?  What does this mean ? It means if you use the beagleBone
 Black( and probably all the others, but I have not looked ) in a commercial
 product, you're on your own.

 Pretty sure beagleboard.org pages ( among others ? ) say the exact same
 thing.

 I wonder how many time it needs to be said before it sinks in ?

 Am I wrong ? Maybe my English skills need polishing . . .

I think it's the multi-unit pricing. It's a low price for everyone, no
matter the quantities. I forget who, it was that ST-Ericsson based
board, they had a low price for developers (single quantities) but for
production people they bumped the price by $50 or something.

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Re: [beagleboard] Using BeagleBone with JavaScript/Node.js

2014-05-28 Thread William Hermans
Irelandathome, I have personally installed Node.js from scratch and have
had it working. On Debian before it was technically supported As said
above, Bonescript runs on top ( along side ? Jason would know the best ) of
Node.js.

There is only one hurdle when compiling from source. You need to tweak the
build script to build for the given processor type. Also, it seems many of
the javascript developers for Node.js modules are oblivious to the concept
of multi ARCH software. So, it may be wise if you're going to experiment on
your own, that you backup your file system between each module install. At
least this was the easiest way for me to keep a pristine ( clean ) file
system.

All the major module like Express as far as I can tell seems to work fine
though. I did have a problem with one of the older package managers
initially while I was figuring things out. NPM worked fine last I looked
though. Also, you may not be able to use the latest version, but personally
I got very close( about a month back from latest ).

I have a command line log of the steps I took to achieve this if it's of
any interest.


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:20 AM, John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:


 From: irelandath...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 at 4:26 AM
 To: beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [beagleboard] Using BeagleBone with JavaScript/Node.js

 Hi,

 I'm interested in looking at using BB with Node.js. If I come up with some
 test ideas, is it likely that I could find a production version of a board
 which would still allow me to use JavaScript or would I have to rewrite my
 solution with C or some C variant?

 You can use Node.js on any board version. There are no restrictions.


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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Commercial use of BeagleBone

2014-05-28 Thread William Hermans
I wonder if that $50 covered all the headaches they received in return ?


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:27 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  How many times has it been said here that the board is not supported for
  commercial use ?  What does this mean ? It means if you use the
 beagleBone
  Black( and probably all the others, but I have not looked ) in a
 commercial
  product, you're on your own.
 
  Pretty sure beagleboard.org pages ( among others ? ) say the exact same
  thing.
 
  I wonder how many time it needs to be said before it sinks in ?
 
  Am I wrong ? Maybe my English skills need polishing . . .

 I think it's the multi-unit pricing. It's a low price for everyone, no
 matter the quantities. I forget who, it was that ST-Ericsson based
 board, they had a low price for developers (single quantities) but for
 production people they bumped the price by $50 or something.

 Regards,

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Max current on header 5/3.3V supply

2014-05-28 Thread Robert P
thanks everyone, so I guess the answer is yes?  xbee uses 215ma max, so it 
looks like it's safe

On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:03:18 AM UTC-4, PLyttle wrote:


 I doubt that. The pins are connected together. Also:

 6.1.9.2  VDD_3V3A Rail
 The VDD_3V3A rail is supplied by the TPS65217C and provides the 3.3V for 
 the
 processor rails and can provide up to 400mA.

 6.1.9.3  VDD_3V3B Rail
 The current supplied by the VDD_3V3A rail is not sufficient to power all 
 of the 3.3V
 rails on the board. So a second LDO is supplied, U4, a TL5209A, which 
 sources the
 VDD_3V3B rail. It is powered up just after the VDD_3V3A rail.

 U4 is capable of sourcing 500 mA, but on-board it also powers nand, 
 ethernet and uSD. Whatever is left for externals is less than 500 mA, 250 
 mA left as is documented seems reasonable. 

 LP


 On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 1:28:57 PM UTC+2, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:

 Those numbers are for each pin, so 500 mA total. 

 On 5/27/2014 2:04 AM, PLyttle wrote: 
  When you read the service reference manual, section 8.6, you find that 
 the 
  VDD_3V3B at P9 pins 3 and 4 can source 250 mA max. 
  
  On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 12:38:13 AM UTC+2, Robert P wrote: 
  
  Hi everyone,  I'm trying to figure out if it's safe to power an xbee 
 off 
  the 3.3V header on the bbb  ( P9_3 / P9_4 ) .. I need 250ma-300ma MAX 
  
  
  is this safe and stable?  It would seem like it, but I want to 
 confirm.. 
  thank you! 

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 cha...@steinkuehler.net 



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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Can the BBB get damaged due to a hard power down?

2014-05-28 Thread John Syn

On 5/28/14, 5:06 AM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak m...@avtechpulse.com
wrote:

 I really donšt see how this can work. First, the supercaps are 2.5v so
you

No:

http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/PHB-5R0V505-R/283-3520-ND/2770536
This is really two supercaps placed in series with a small resistor across
each to balance the charge. This is not a good solution because the
resistors discharge the supercaps with no load but for your application,
it probably doesn't matter.

 PMC wonšt like a short circuit, which the supercap is when it is fully
 discharged. I could go on, but this idea doesnšt make sense to me.

Same is true of an uncharged battery. The charger circuit is
current-limited. (I pull it up with a diode drop + 10 Ohms to a +5V rail
also, for faster charging.)
Batteries should never go to 0V or they will be damaged. Lithium Iron
shouldn't be discharged below 2.7V.

I'm not sure what happens to the battery charging circuit in the PMU, but
my guess is that is will go to some sort of a lockout for safety reasons
so Im not sure if the switchers can run from this energy source. Have you
asked anyone at TI if it is OK to use the PMU like this? Perhaps you
should post a question on E2E.

If you are charging at 440mA, it will take 50 Seconds to reach full
charge. What happens when the power fails before that 50 Seconds? I would
recommend that you monitor the supercap voltage and wait until it is fully
charged before opening any files.

It is an interesting concept, but I'm still skeptical if this can really
work. 

Regards,
John


- Mike

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Can the BBB get damaged due to a hard power down?

2014-05-28 Thread John Syn

On 5/28/14, 5:12 AM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak m...@avtechpulse.com
wrote:

 Sounds cool and easy to implement hardware-wise.
 Can you share the code for that?

Something like this:

// use plain old open to avoid any buffering etc
int enablefd = open(/proc/sys/kernel/sysrq, O_SYNC | O_RDWR);
int trgfd = open(/proc/sysrq-trigger, O_SYNC | O_RDWR);

// enable sysrq
write(enablefd, 1\n, 2);
close(enablefd);

// sync disks
write(trgfd, s\n, 2);

// remount ro
write(trgfd, u\n, 2);
close(trgfd);

// poweroff
system (/usr/bin/systemctl poweroff -f);

exit(0);


As I mentioned, I use full data+metadata journaling on the filesystem,
not just metadata.

The only issue is that the system doesn't restart if power is reapplied
before the supercap is fully discharged. You have to wait 10 seconds or
so before a restart is possible. I'm not sure how to fix that.
You need a small state machine which you can implement with a GreenPAK.

http://www.silego.com/products/greenpak.html

Regards,
John

- Mike

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Re: [beagleboard] Cross Toolchain for Debian Wheezy

2014-05-28 Thread William Hermans
I use Robert's instructions from that kernel built from scratch
instructions partially because it does make  cross compiling very simple.
All you have to do is match the Linaro toolchain.

The Windows binaries for Linaro work fine too for what it is worth. Or at
least did last I built from scratch. I wrote a mini howto setup LInaro +
Code::Blocks on WIndows, and posted it on beaglefu forums last year. But it
is very simplistic, and I probably need to revisit / rewrite the
instructions. Mainly I just wrote it to share the gist of what was possible.

Code::Bocks btw is a very flexible cross platform IDE, that isn't written
in java. If that is important to you.


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 7:30 AM, familyheld...@googlemail.com wrote:

 OK, thanks for making things clear.
 So I also think the way to go is using the same toolchain for the kernel
 and the user binaries
 - I will (try to) use the linaro toolchain.

 thanks so far.

 regards,
 Ben

 Am Mittwoch, 28. Mai 2014 15:39:21 UTC+2 schrieb RobertCNelson:

 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:36 AM,  family...@googlemail.com wrote:
  Yeah!
  sudo dpkg -i *.deb did do the trick.
 
  I see now that only one dpkg call specifying all deb packages at once
  resolves the dependencies but fireing dpkg -i command for each file
 alone
  (even in a for each x in-loop) does not work. - something new
 learned-
 
  Many thanks, I will now try to compile my project (using qt; this means
 I
  need to recompile my qteverywhere also... damn.. so much left to do...)
 
  BTW: I also stumbled upon the linaro toolchain you mention here
  (http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black#
 BeagleBoneBlack-uEnv.txtbasedbootscript)
  Is it an worth considering alternative for this
  home-brew-self-compiled-toolchain ?

 There's nothing wrong with the linaro toolchain. Some
 users/customers want an exact gcc/lib/etc match with the gcc/lib/etc
 on the debian image.

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Can the BBB get damaged due to a hard power down?

2014-05-28 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak

asked anyone at TI if it is OK to use the PMU like this? Perhaps you
should post a question on E2E.


From http://e2e.ti.com/support/power_management/pmu/f/200/t/185514.aspx:

The battery charger should work fine with a supercap.  You'll need to 
make sure the TS (battery temp sense) pin is at a proper voltage to 
allow charging.  If the supercap does not have a temperature sensor, you 
can simply put a 10k resistor from TS to GND.




If you are charging at 440mA, it will take 50 Seconds to reach full
charge. What happens when the power fails before that 50 Seconds? I would
recommend that you monitor the supercap voltage and wait until it is fully
charged before opening any files.


That is why I use full data+metadata journaling on the filesystem.

If an unclean shutdown happens before the supercap is charged, the next 
boot-up will be delayed for several seconds as the filesystem is 
repaired using the full journal. That is annoying, but it is a minor 
cost for robustness. Mostly, the supercap is there to eliminate the need 
for the repair delay.




It is an interesting concept, but I'm still skeptical if this can really
work.


Well, I do use it, so that's one data point.

The other main alternative for bullet-proof power-fail robustness is to 
rely on on something like unionfs to provide a mix of read-only and 
read/write filesystems, but that's not so simple either. It's complex 
and not very well supported in general.


Batteries have a fairly limited lifetime, so I don't consider that a 
practical solution (for me).


I'm interested to hear how other people prevent corruption on power 
loss, though.



- Mike

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Can the BBB get damaged due to a hard power down?

2014-05-28 Thread William Hermans
Batteries can be had that have a lifetime of 5+ years. Depending on the
type of battery you use. Flooded lead acid ( for RE use ) can have a much
longer life. Especially if the batteries are conditioned / charged
properly.

I've personally bought, and used 10,000 aH D Cells that have lasted 3
years, but failed eventually, because I was using them in a Maglite
flashlight, and had dropped it many times. The point is, where there is a
will, there is a way.

Also, perhaps I am remembering wrongly, but I seem to recall reading that
super caps have a limited lifetime as well. Something about only having so
many charge cycles similar to a battery.


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak 
m...@avtechpulse.com wrote:

 asked anyone at TI if it is OK to use the PMU like this? Perhaps you
 should post a question on E2E.


 From http://e2e.ti.com/support/power_management/pmu/f/200/t/185514.aspx:

 The battery charger should work fine with a supercap.  You'll need to
 make sure the TS (battery temp sense) pin is at a proper voltage to allow
 charging.  If the supercap does not have a temperature sensor, you can
 simply put a 10k resistor from TS to GND.


  If you are charging at 440mA, it will take 50 Seconds to reach full
 charge. What happens when the power fails before that 50 Seconds? I would
 recommend that you monitor the supercap voltage and wait until it is fully
 charged before opening any files.


 That is why I use full data+metadata journaling on the filesystem.

 If an unclean shutdown happens before the supercap is charged, the next
 boot-up will be delayed for several seconds as the filesystem is repaired
 using the full journal. That is annoying, but it is a minor cost for
 robustness. Mostly, the supercap is there to eliminate the need for the
 repair delay.


  It is an interesting concept, but I'm still skeptical if this can really
 work.


 Well, I do use it, so that's one data point.

 The other main alternative for bullet-proof power-fail robustness is to
 rely on on something like unionfs to provide a mix of read-only and
 read/write filesystems, but that's not so simple either. It's complex and
 not very well supported in general.

 Batteries have a fairly limited lifetime, so I don't consider that a
 practical solution (for me).

 I'm interested to hear how other people prevent corruption on power loss,
 though.



 - Mike

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[beagleboard] Angstrom Linux boot: where is initramfs.cpio.gz?

2014-05-28 Thread ec123ec
Hi,

I'm working through an embedded linux book and have a couple BBBs.  The 
Angstrom manual says file systme is loaded via *initramfs*.cpio.*gz* but 
find doesn't see it.  If the system has changed, where is the documentation 
for this?

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[beagleboard] Where files per the Angstrom manual?

2014-05-28 Thread ec123ec
Hi,

I'm working through a book to learn Linux and have a couple BBBs.  
According to the Angstrom manual, the file system is supposed to be 
initialized via *initramfs.cpio.gz*.  But find doesn't find it.  I dug 
around a little online, but did not find any information about how the 
kernel file system are booted on Angstrom.  I'm using Embedded Linux Primer 
(2012)*.  *Where files per the Angstrom manual? If the system has changed, 
where is the documentaion for it?

Thanks!

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Re: [beagleboard] USB power and Hotplug problem

2014-05-28 Thread Cody Lacey
Boot the board with your hub connected and after boot run the commands
below,  then test hot-plug.
echo on  /sys/bus/usb/devices/usb1/power/control
echo on  /sys/bus/usb/devices/usb1/1-1/power/control


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 6:04 AM, duartecar...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hi,

 Thank you for the response.

 The boot issue i've solved it with a soft start circuit and now it is
 working.

 The hot plug problem, i'm still struggling to find a solution because i
 can't find one, is there any suggestions to solve it?

 Thanks.

 Duarte Carona


 Terça-feira, 27 de Maio de 2014 15:33:04 UTC+1, RobertCNelson escreveu:

 On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 5:33 AM,  duarte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  I've been working with USB Hub from Texas Instruments (TSUB2046BVF) and
 i've
  tried to plug it to my BBB and everything works fine if i plug devices
  before BBB boot up but when i unplug and plug again (hotplug) it is not
  recognized.
 
  Based on some forum posts I realized that this is a Software problem on
 the
  BBB, so my question is if there's any new update or some workaround to
 solve
  this problem?
 
  Another question is regarding the power using only the USB, is there
 any
  current restrictions during BBB boot up? because if i power some HW to
 BBB
  5V (consuming about 150mA) the BBB does not boot.

 Well, the usb spec gives you only 100mA till you request more. So I
 don't see that design booting off a standard usb port any time soon.

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Re: [beagleboard] Using /etc/init/_.conf for autostarting services

2014-05-28 Thread William Hermans
init.d can be made to run a service at boot up too. Is there a problem with
this ?

http://www.embeddedhobbyist.com/debian-tips/beaglebone-black/beaglebone-black-init-scripts-default-gatewayand-ntpdate/


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 6:30 AM, Colin Bester bester.co...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks

 On May 28, 2014, at 8:28 AM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:15 AM, Colin Bester bester.co...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I am looking to add a auto start service using conf file in /etc/init
 but it
  seems that debian version on BBB presently only supports older style
  /etc/init.d sys  init scripts.
 
  I thought I'd ask the group before starting to add packages to install
 on
  whether this newer version is supported or should I go straight to using
  systemd for startup of services.
 
  My aim is not to stray to far from base debian image in these early
 days.
 
  systemd is enabled in the debian image here:
 
  http://beagleboard.org/latest-images
 
  and /etc/init.d/* style script are still run in a systemd
  compatibility script.
 
  Regards,
 
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Re: [beagleboard] Using /etc/init/_.conf for autostarting services

2014-05-28 Thread Colin Bester
No right or wrong, I just want to get away from init.d. I far prefer concept of 
systemd, but confusion reigns due to my lack of knowledge, time to read!

On May 28, 2014, at 1:36 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:

 init.d can be made to run a service at boot up too. Is there a problem with 
 this ?
 
 http://www.embeddedhobbyist.com/debian-tips/beaglebone-black/beaglebone-black-init-scripts-default-gatewayand-ntpdate/
 
 
 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 6:30 AM, Colin Bester bester.co...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks
 
 On May 28, 2014, at 8:28 AM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:15 AM, Colin Bester bester.co...@gmail.com 
  wrote:
  I am looking to add a auto start service using conf file in /etc/init but 
  it
  seems that debian version on BBB presently only supports older style
  /etc/init.d sys  init scripts.
 
  I thought I'd ask the group before starting to add packages to install on
  whether this newer version is supported or should I go straight to using
  systemd for startup of services.
 
  My aim is not to stray to far from base debian image in these early days.
 
  systemd is enabled in the debian image here:
 
  http://beagleboard.org/latest-images
 
  and /etc/init.d/* style script are still run in a systemd
  compatibility script.
 
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Can the BBB get damaged due to a hard power down?

2014-05-28 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak

On 05/28/2014 02:19 PM, William Hermans wrote:

Batteries can be had that have a lifetime of 5+ years. Depending on the
type of battery you use. Flooded lead acid ( for RE use ) can have a
much longer life. Especially if the batteries are conditioned / charged
properly.


No doubt, but if I can avoid putting a battery in my product, I will. 
They will die eventually, they sometimes corrode in a horrible mess, and 
they require maintenance actions by the user. No thanks. :-)


- Mike

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[beagleboard] Re: Reading analog inputs fast in beaglebone black

2014-05-28 Thread Rafael Vega
Thanks everyone for your replies! I will spend friday and saturday 
experimenting and will report back here with my findings and probably more 
questions :)

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Can the BBB get damaged due to a hard power down?

2014-05-28 Thread John Syn

On 5/28/14, 11:06 AM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak m...@avtechpulse.com
wrote:

 asked anyone at TI if it is OK to use the PMU like this? Perhaps you
 should post a question on E2E.

 From http://e2e.ti.com/support/power_management/pmu/f/200/t/185514.aspx:
Well, this posting is very interesting. So my thinking is with the
addition of a GreenPAK to take care of the corner cases, it would be
pretty simple to make a reliable power supply for the BBB.

The battery charger should work fine with a supercap.  You'll need to
make sure the TS (battery temp sense) pin is at a proper voltage to
allow charging.  If the supercap does not have a temperature sensor, you
can simply put a 10k resistor from TS to GND.


 If you are charging at 440mA, it will take 50 Seconds to reach full
 charge. What happens when the power fails before that 50 Seconds? I
would
 recommend that you monitor the supercap voltage and wait until it is
fully
 charged before opening any files.

That is why I use full data+metadata journaling on the filesystem.
This only reduces the risk of corrupt data, but does not eliminate the
possibility. The same concept applies to redundant disks in a RAID. It
only minimizes the potential for data loss, but you still have to backup
RAID systems. 

If an unclean shutdown happens before the supercap is charged, the next
boot-up will be delayed for several seconds as the filesystem is
repaired using the full journal. That is annoying, but it is a minor
cost for robustness. Mostly, the supercap is there to eliminate the need
for the repair delay.


 It is an interesting concept, but I'm still skeptical if this can really
 work.

Well, I do use it, so that's one data point.

The other main alternative for bullet-proof power-fail robustness is to
rely on on something like unionfs to provide a mix of read-only and
read/write filesystems, but that's not so simple either. It's complex
and not very well supported in general.

Batteries have a fairly limited lifetime, so I don't consider that a
practical solution (for me).
I agree with you completely and I use supercaps for this reason.

I'm interested to hear how other people prevent corruption on power
loss, though.
My solution is a lot more elaborate with supercap chargers/energy balance,
voltage comparators and switchers, boost convertors to keep processor
power constant as the supercaps discharge, state machines, etc.

Regards,
John


- Mike

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Re: [beagleboard] Using /etc/init/_.conf for autostarting services

2014-05-28 Thread William Hermans
Ah, ok, I get that. but I'm more of a traditional the Debian way kind of
person.


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Colin Bester bester.co...@gmail.comwrote:

 No right or wrong, I just want to get away from init.d. I far prefer
 concept of systemd, but confusion reigns due to my lack of knowledge, time
 to read!

 On May 28, 2014, at 1:36 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:

 init.d can be made to run a service at boot up too. Is there a problem
 with this ?


 http://www.embeddedhobbyist.com/debian-tips/beaglebone-black/beaglebone-black-init-scripts-default-gatewayand-ntpdate/


 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 6:30 AM, Colin Bester bester.co...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks

 On May 28, 2014, at 8:28 AM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:15 AM, Colin Bester bester.co...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I am looking to add a auto start service using conf file in /etc/init
 but it
  seems that debian version on BBB presently only supports older style
  /etc/init.d sys  init scripts.
 
  I thought I'd ask the group before starting to add packages to install
 on
  whether this newer version is supported or should I go straight to
 using
  systemd for startup of services.
 
  My aim is not to stray to far from base debian image in these early
 days.
 
  systemd is enabled in the debian image here:
 
  http://beagleboard.org/latest-images
 
  and /etc/init.d/* style script are still run in a systemd
  compatibility script.
 
  Regards,
 
  --
  Robert Nelson
  http://www.rcn-ee.com/
 
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Re: [beagleboard] Using /etc/init/_.conf for autostarting services

2014-05-28 Thread William Hermans
Or more correctly in this case I should say The Wheezy way, since Debian
things have been changing fairly rapidly the last few years it seems.


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:55 AM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ah, ok, I get that. but I'm more of a traditional the Debian way kind of
 person.


 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Colin Bester bester.co...@gmail.comwrote:

 No right or wrong, I just want to get away from init.d. I far prefer
 concept of systemd, but confusion reigns due to my lack of knowledge, time
 to read!

 On May 28, 2014, at 1:36 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:

 init.d can be made to run a service at boot up too. Is there a problem
 with this ?


 http://www.embeddedhobbyist.com/debian-tips/beaglebone-black/beaglebone-black-init-scripts-default-gatewayand-ntpdate/


 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 6:30 AM, Colin Bester bester.co...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks

 On May 28, 2014, at 8:28 AM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:15 AM, Colin Bester bester.co...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I am looking to add a auto start service using conf file in /etc/init
 but it
  seems that debian version on BBB presently only supports older style
  /etc/init.d sys  init scripts.
 
  I thought I'd ask the group before starting to add packages to
 install on
  whether this newer version is supported or should I go straight to
 using
  systemd for startup of services.
 
  My aim is not to stray to far from base debian image in these early
 days.
 
  systemd is enabled in the debian image here:
 
  http://beagleboard.org/latest-images
 
  and /etc/init.d/* style script are still run in a systemd
  compatibility script.
 
  Regards,
 
  --
  Robert Nelson
  http://www.rcn-ee.com/
 
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Can the BBB get damaged due to a hard power down?

2014-05-28 Thread John Syn

From:  William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Wednesday, May 28, 2014 at 11:19 AM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Re: Can the BBB get damaged due to a hard power
down?

 Batteries can be had that have a lifetime of 5+ years. Depending on the type
 of battery you use. Flooded lead acid ( for RE use ) can have a much longer
 life. Especially if the batteries are conditioned / charged properly.
You can buy Tadiran batteries that last 10 years, but they are expensive.
They aren¹t real batteries either, they are a type of hybrid battery.

http://www.tadiranbat.com http://www.tadiranbat.com/

 
 
 I've personally bought, and used 10,000 aH D Cells that have lasted 3 years,
 but failed eventually, because I was using them in a Maglite flashlight, and
 had dropped it many times. The point is, where there is a will, there is a
 way.
 
 Also, perhaps I am remembering wrongly, but I seem to recall reading that
 super caps have a limited lifetime as well. Something about only having so
 many charge cycles similar to a battery.
Not true. As long as you do not exceed their maximum voltage, supercaps
charge cycles are 100x that of batteries and their life expectancy is 10
Years. You can also charge and discharge them much faster than batteries.
Regular Lithium Iron are good for about 1,000 charge cycles and 3 year
capacity is less than 80%.
 
 
 
 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
 m...@avtechpulse.com wrote:
 asked anyone at TI if it is OK to use the PMU like this? Perhaps you
 should post a question on E2E.
 
 From http://e2e.ti.com/support/power_management/pmu/f/200/t/185514.aspx
 http://e2e.ti.com/support/power_management/pmu/f/200/t/185514.aspx :
 
 The battery charger should work fine with a supercap.  You'll need to make
 sure the TS (battery temp sense) pin is at a proper voltage to allow
 charging.  If the supercap does not have a temperature sensor, you can simply
 put a 10k resistor from TS to GND.
 
 
 If you are charging at 440mA, it will take 50 Seconds to reach full
 charge. What happens when the power fails before that 50 Seconds? I would
 recommend that you monitor the supercap voltage and wait until it is fully
 charged before opening any files.
 
 That is why I use full data+metadata journaling on the filesystem.
 
 If an unclean shutdown happens before the supercap is charged, the next
 boot-up will be delayed for several seconds as the filesystem is repaired
 using the full journal. That is annoying, but it is a minor cost for
 robustness. Mostly, the supercap is there to eliminate the need for the
 repair delay.
 
 
 It is an interesting concept, but I'm still skeptical if this can really
 work.
 
 Well, I do use it, so that's one data point.
 
 The other main alternative for bullet-proof power-fail robustness is to rely
 on on something like unionfs to provide a mix of read-only and read/write
 filesystems, but that's not so simple either. It's complex and not very well
 supported in general.
 
 Batteries have a fairly limited lifetime, so I don't consider that a
 practical solution (for me).
 
 I'm interested to hear how other people prevent corruption on power loss,
 though.
 
 
 
 - Mike
 
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Re: [beagleboard] Using /etc/init/_.conf for autostarting services

2014-05-28 Thread John Syn

From:  William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Wednesday, May 28, 2014 at 11:56 AM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Using /etc/init/_.conf for autostarting services

 Or more correctly in this case I should say The Wheezy way, since Debian
 things have been changing fairly rapidly the last few years it seems.
Yeah, but systemd has won so we all have to get use to it ;-)
 
 
 
 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:55 AM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ah, ok, I get that. but I'm more of a traditional the Debian way kind of
 person.
 
 
 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Colin Bester bester.co...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 No right or wrong, I just want to get away from init.d. I far prefer concept
 of systemd, but confusion reigns due to my lack of knowledge, time to read!
 
 On May 28, 2014, at 1:36 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 init.d can be made to run a service at boot up too. Is there a problem with
 this ?
 
 http://www.embeddedhobbyist.com/debian-tips/beaglebone-black/beaglebone-bla
 ck-init-scripts-default-gatewayand-ntpdate/
 
 
 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 6:30 AM, Colin Bester bester.co...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Thanks
 
 On May 28, 2014, at 8:28 AM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:15 AM, Colin Bester bester.co...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I am looking to add a auto start service using conf file in /etc/init
 but it
  seems that debian version on BBB presently only supports older style
  /etc/init.d sys  init scripts.
 
  I thought I'd ask the group before starting to add packages to
 install on
  whether this newer version is supported or should I go straight to
 using
  systemd for startup of services.
 
  My aim is not to stray to far from base debian image in these early
 days.
 
  systemd is enabled in the debian image here:
 
  http://beagleboard.org/latest-images
 
  and /etc/init.d/* style script are still run in a systemd
  compatibility script.
 
  Regards,
 
  --
  Robert Nelson
  http://www.rcn-ee.com/
 
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Re: [beagleboard] Eclipse C and Remote Debugging

2014-05-28 Thread Simon Platten
I'm still looking for a solution and getting more and more frustrated by 
what seems to be a very steep up hill battle.

There are quite a few sites linking to 
http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/toolchains/

This link is invalid and results in a 404.  The toolchains that I did 
manage to track down are not all complete, some have a gdb in the archive, 
others don't.

Can someone point me in the direction of a complete toolchain with 
instructions on how to install it correctly?

Thank you,
Simon 

On Wednesday, 28 May 2014 08:52:36 UTC+1, Simon Platten wrote:

 Hi John, Thank you for the reply, perhaps I wasn't very clear.  GDB Server 
 is installed on the Beaglebone Black and I see the process running, it just 
 fails to connect. 

 I will post more detail when I get home tonight.  I've tried using the 
 default port 2345 and also found a post suggesting , neither worked.



 On Wednesday, 28 May 2014 08:45:53 UTC+1, john3909 wrote:


 From: Simon Platten simona...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: beagl...@googlegroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 at 11:53 PM
 To: beagl...@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [beagleboard] Eclipse C and Remote Debugging

 I have Eclipse Kepler running on Ubuntu 14.04 x64, I can build and remote 
 debug Java applications on the Beaglebone Black, but for some reason I 
 cannot remote debug C applications.

 I can compile a C application and I can see that it is transferred to the 
 Beaglebone Black, I can even run it from an SSH terminal on the Beaglebone 
 Black.  But trying to remote debug always fails with a GDB error.

 The console reports that GDB will reconnect, however it never does.

 I've tried following numerous videos on YouTube, however none of them 
 have resolved this issue.

 In the end I decided to build and compile on the Beaglebone Black 
 directly, however now I get an error saying GLIBC_2.17 libc.so.6 not 
 found...sorry if my post isn't very detailed, I'm at work now without 
 access to all the information.

 Can anyone point me in the right location to resolve either the remote 
 debugging or the GLIBC_2.17 error?  I have already spent a very long time 
 trying to find answers myself.

 You need GDBServer installed on your BBB. You launch GDBServer on your 
 BBB with IP of host and specify the port number for the host to connect to. 
 In Eclipse, I don’t recall the exact command, but it is something like gdb 
 remote BBB ipaddr BBB port. There are plenty of example on Google. 


 https://www.google.com/search?q=eclipse+gdbserver+remote+debugoq=eclipse+gdbserveraqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l5.16411j0j7sourceid=chromees_sm=119ie=UTF-8

 Regards
 John



 Thank you,

 Kind Regards,
 Simon

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[beagleboard] Re: Problems with updating Beaglebone Black via opkg install

2014-05-28 Thread rpauly92 via BeagleBoard
I am having the same issue with mine at the moment. For me however, I am 
able to reach the links it provides when it displays 
the collected errors. But I do want to know why the opkg_download failed. 



root@beaglebone:~# opkg update
Downloading 
http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/base/Packages.gz.
wget: bad address 'feeds.angstrom-distribution.org'
Downloading 
http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/machine/beaglebone/Packages.gz.
wget: bad address 'feeds.angstrom-distribution.org'
Downloading 
http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/debug/Packages.gz.
wget: bad address 'feeds.angstrom-distribution.org'
Downloading 
http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/gstreamer/Packages.gz.
wget: bad address 'feeds.angstrom-distribution.org'
Downloading 
http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/all/Packages.gz.
wget: bad address 'feeds.angstrom-distribution.org'
Downloading 
http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/perl/Packages.gz.
wget: bad address 'feeds.angstrom-distribution.org'
Downloading 
http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/python/Packages.gz.
wget: bad address 'feeds.angstrom-distribution.org'
Collected errors:
 * opkg_download: Failed to download 
http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/base/Packages.gz,
 
wget returned 1.
 * opkg_download: Failed to download 
http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/machine/beaglebone/Packages.gz,
 
wget returned 1.
 * opkg_download: Failed to download 
http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/debug/Packages.gz,
 
wget returned 1.
 * opkg_download: Failed to download 
http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/gstreamer/Packages.gz,
 
wget returned 1.
 * opkg_download: Failed to download 
http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/all/Packages.gz,
 
wget returned 1.
 * opkg_download: Failed to download 
http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/perl/Packages.gz,
 
wget returned 1.
 * opkg_download: Failed to download 
http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/python/Packages.gz,
 
wget returned 1.


I can connect to the links it provides, but I want to know why they aren't 
downloadable from the PuTTY. I am wondering if there is just a bad 
connection remaining  between the BBB and my PC (Windows 7). 

I am still very new with the BBB, and learning more about it as I am 
interning. My main project while I work here circles around the use of the 
BBB, I just seem to be
butting heads with it lately. I'd love to get some feedback about how I 
should go about fixing it. I am trying to fix it in order to create a web 
server through the BBB if that helps any in figuring out the issue.


Thanks,
Ryan

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Re: [beagleboard] Anyone else interested in obtaining a mikroBUS Cape ?

2014-05-28 Thread Mark Grosen
How much is the shipping? I see the base price is ~$18 including VAT. I
would take 2 at this price plus a reasonable shared shipping cost.

Mark



Mark


On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 3:13 PM, motortest_guy pondhockey...@gmail.comwrote:


 https://www.tigal.com/wiki/doku.php?id=tigalcapes:bb_mikrobus_cape

 I want to get one, but the freight cost to get it across the ocean is
 double the cost of the board.
 If I order one, I might get a few more to sell to folks interested in the
 States.

 Mouser (In States) carries many if the Click boards, but doesn't carry the
 adapter cape (above).

 http://www.mouser.com/new/mikroelektronika/mikroelektronikaClick/

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Re: [beagleboard] Using /etc/init/_.conf for autostarting services

2014-05-28 Thread Colin Bester
It's crazy. I have been in software for longer than I care to mention but last 
time I dug deep into Linux was about 8 maybe 10 years ago - so much is the 
same, but so much is different!

On May 28, 2014, at 1:56 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Or more correctly in this case I should say The Wheezy way, since Debian 
 things have been changing fairly rapidly the last few years it seems.
 
 
 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:55 AM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ah, ok, I get that. but I'm more of a traditional the Debian way kind of 
 person.
 
 
 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Colin Bester bester.co...@gmail.com wrote:
 No right or wrong, I just want to get away from init.d. I far prefer concept 
 of systemd, but confusion reigns due to my lack of knowledge, time to read!
 
 On May 28, 2014, at 1:36 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 init.d can be made to run a service at boot up too. Is there a problem with 
 this ?
 
 http://www.embeddedhobbyist.com/debian-tips/beaglebone-black/beaglebone-black-init-scripts-default-gatewayand-ntpdate/
 
 
 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 6:30 AM, Colin Bester bester.co...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks
 
 On May 28, 2014, at 8:28 AM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:15 AM, Colin Bester bester.co...@gmail.com 
  wrote:
  I am looking to add a auto start service using conf file in /etc/init but 
  it
  seems that debian version on BBB presently only supports older style
  /etc/init.d sys  init scripts.
 
  I thought I'd ask the group before starting to add packages to install on
  whether this newer version is supported or should I go straight to using
  systemd for startup of services.
 
  My aim is not to stray to far from base debian image in these early days.
 
  systemd is enabled in the debian image here:
 
  http://beagleboard.org/latest-images
 
  and /etc/init.d/* style script are still run in a systemd
  compatibility script.
 
  Regards,
 
  --
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  http://www.rcn-ee.com/
 
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Re: [beagleboard] Using /etc/init/_.conf for autostarting services

2014-05-28 Thread Colin Bester
Yup, for now it's the way forward. Actually pretty easy all in all and I do 
like the concepts. I am battling a bit with ordering startup, but will push 
through!

~C

On May 28, 2014, at 2:05 PM, John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 From: William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 at 11:56 AM
 To: beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [beagleboard] Using /etc/init/_.conf for autostarting services
 
 Or more correctly in this case I should say The Wheezy way, since Debian 
 things have been changing fairly rapidly the last few years it seems.
 
 Yeah, but systemd has won so we all have to get use to it ;-)
 
 
 
 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:55 AM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ah, ok, I get that. but I'm more of a traditional the Debian way kind of 
 person.
 
 
 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Colin Bester bester.co...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 No right or wrong, I just want to get away from init.d. I far prefer 
 concept of systemd, but confusion reigns due to my lack of knowledge, time 
 to read!
 
 On May 28, 2014, at 1:36 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 init.d can be made to run a service at boot up too. Is there a problem 
 with this ?
 
 http://www.embeddedhobbyist.com/debian-tips/beaglebone-black/beaglebone-black-init-scripts-default-gatewayand-ntpdate/
 
 
 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 6:30 AM, Colin Bester bester.co...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Thanks
 
 On May 28, 2014, at 8:28 AM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
  On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:15 AM, Colin Bester bester.co...@gmail.com 
  wrote:
  I am looking to add a auto start service using conf file in /etc/init 
  but it
  seems that debian version on BBB presently only supports older style
  /etc/init.d sys  init scripts.
 
  I thought I'd ask the group before starting to add packages to 
  install on
  whether this newer version is supported or should I go straight to 
  using
  systemd for startup of services.
 
  My aim is not to stray to far from base debian image in these early 
  days.
 
  systemd is enabled in the debian image here:
 
  http://beagleboard.org/latest-images
 
  and /etc/init.d/* style script are still run in a systemd
  compatibility script.
 
  Regards,
 
  --
  Robert Nelson
  http://www.rcn-ee.com/
 
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Can the BBB get damaged due to a hard power down?

2014-05-28 Thread William Hermans
I was not saying the charge cycles were the same, just that they do not
work indefinitely. Less than 10 years life expectancy IMHO is on par with
lead acid batteries.

Also, the batteries I used were 10,000 maH or 10aH ( not 10,000 aH ). For
two they cost me ~$25, and they were very heavy for their size.

We live completely offgrid and run our house completely off solar / a
large-ish battery bank. I am not an expert per se, but have lots of hands
on with this type of setup, but on a larger scale. You definitely would not
want to lug one of these around to use with a BBB ( let alone 3 because
they're 2v deep cycle RE's ).

But the NiMH D Cells I have used in the past would probably work fine. They
never corroded. Although the charge cycles is = 500 for the NiMH, which if
they operate like lead acid. A charge cycle only counts once the battery is
taken down below a certain charge %.

Me, I'd definitely prefer to use a battery, mostly because I am very
familiar with the characteristics of batteries, and writting code for an
msp430 ( for conditioning a battery, and monitoring line voltage ) would be
really simple. But again, I really have not spent a ton of time thinking
about it.


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:02 PM, John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:


 From: William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 at 11:19 AM
 To: beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [beagleboard] Re: Can the BBB get damaged due to a hard
 power down?

 Batteries can be had that have a lifetime of 5+ years. Depending on the
 type of battery you use. Flooded lead acid ( for RE use ) can have a much
 longer life. Especially if the batteries are conditioned / charged
 properly.

 You can buy Tadiran batteries that last 10 years, but they are expensive.
 They aren’t real batteries either, they are a type of hybrid battery.

 http://www.tadiranbat.com



 I've personally bought, and used 10,000 aH D Cells that have lasted 3
 years, but failed eventually, because I was using them in a Maglite
 flashlight, and had dropped it many times. The point is, where there is a
 will, there is a way.

 Also, perhaps I am remembering wrongly, but I seem to recall reading that
 super caps have a limited lifetime as well. Something about only having so
 many charge cycles similar to a battery.

 Not true. As long as you do not exceed their maximum voltage, supercaps
 charge cycles are 100x that of batteries and their life expectancy is 10
 Years. You can also charge and discharge them much faster than batteries.
 Regular Lithium Iron are good for about 1,000 charge cycles and 3 year
 capacity is less than 80%.




 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak 
 m...@avtechpulse.com wrote:

 asked anyone at TI if it is OK to use the PMU like this? Perhaps you
 should post a question on E2E.


 From http://e2e.ti.com/support/power_management/pmu/f/200/t/185514.aspx:

 The battery charger should work fine with a supercap.  You'll need to
 make sure the TS (battery temp sense) pin is at a proper voltage to allow
 charging.  If the supercap does not have a temperature sensor, you can
 simply put a 10k resistor from TS to GND.


 If you are charging at 440mA, it will take 50 Seconds to reach full
 charge. What happens when the power fails before that 50 Seconds? I would
 recommend that you monitor the supercap voltage and wait until it is
 fully
 charged before opening any files.


 That is why I use full data+metadata journaling on the filesystem.

 If an unclean shutdown happens before the supercap is charged, the next
 boot-up will be delayed for several seconds as the filesystem is repaired
 using the full journal. That is annoying, but it is a minor cost for
 robustness. Mostly, the supercap is there to eliminate the need for the
 repair delay.


 It is an interesting concept, but I'm still skeptical if this can really
 work.


 Well, I do use it, so that's one data point.

 The other main alternative for bullet-proof power-fail robustness is to
 rely on on something like unionfs to provide a mix of read-only and
 read/write filesystems, but that's not so simple either. It's complex and
 not very well supported in general.

 Batteries have a fairly limited lifetime, so I don't consider that a
 practical solution (for me).

 I'm interested to hear how other people prevent corruption on power loss,
 though.



 - Mike

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Re: [beagleboard] Using /etc/init/_.conf for autostarting services

2014-05-28 Thread John Syn

From:  Colin Bester bester.co...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Wednesday, May 28, 2014 at 12:22 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Using /etc/init/_.conf for autostarting services

 Yup, for now it¹s the way forward. Actually pretty easy all in all and I do
 like the concepts. I am battling a bit with ordering startup, but will push
 through!
You should stop top posting as this isn¹t considered good etiquette. Rather
post your response just below the text you are responding to so everyone
understand the context of your response. With that out the way, the order is
determined by it¹s dependency. Systemd will wait for the dependency to
complete before starting this service. When there is no dependency, services
are started in parallel. This is why Systemd is so much faster.

systemd-analyze blame

Will help you understand the startup order.

Regards,
John
 
 ~C
 
 On May 28, 2014, at 2:05 PM, John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 From:  William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com
 Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Date:  Wednesday, May 28, 2014 at 11:56 AM
 To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Using /etc/init/_.conf for autostarting services
 
 Or more correctly in this case I should say The Wheezy way, since Debian
 things have been changing fairly rapidly the last few years it seems.
 Yeah, but systemd has won so we all have to get use to it ;-)
 
 
 
 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:55 AM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ah, ok, I get that. but I'm more of a traditional the Debian way kind of
 person.
 
 
 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Colin Bester bester.co...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 No right or wrong, I just want to get away from init.d. I far prefer
 concept of systemd, but confusion reigns due to my lack of knowledge, time
 to read!
 
 On May 28, 2014, at 1:36 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 init.d can be made to run a service at boot up too. Is there a problem
 with this ?
 
 http://www.embeddedhobbyist.com/debian-tips/beaglebone-black/beaglebone-b
 lack-init-scripts-default-gatewayand-ntpdate/
 
 
 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 6:30 AM, Colin Bester bester.co...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Thanks
 
 On May 28, 2014, at 8:28 AM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:15 AM, Colin Bester
 bester.co...@gmail.com wrote:
  I am looking to add a auto start service using conf file in
 /etc/init but it
  seems that debian version on BBB presently only supports older
 style
  /etc/init.d sys  init scripts.
 
  I thought I'd ask the group before starting to add packages to
 install on
  whether this newer version is supported or should I go straight to
 using
  systemd for startup of services.
 
  My aim is not to stray to far from base debian image in these early
 days.
 
  systemd is enabled in the debian image here:
 
  http://beagleboard.org/latest-images
 
  and /etc/init.d/* style script are still run in a systemd
  compatibility script.
 
  Regards,
 
  --
  Robert Nelson
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Re: [beagleboard] Eclipse C and Remote Debugging

2014-05-28 Thread John Syn

From:  Simon Platten simonaplat...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Wednesday, May 28, 2014 at 12:09 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Eclipse C and Remote Debugging

 I'm still looking for a solution and getting more and more frustrated by what
 seems to be a very steep up hill battle.
 
 There are quite a few sites linking to
 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/toolchains/
I think you are going to find it harder and harder to get support for
Angstrom. It has been over a year since I¹ve used Angstrom so I don¹t every
remember how to get some things working. I would recommend that you make the
move to Debian as we are much more able to help with the OS we currently
use. 

Regards,
John
 
 This link is invalid and results in a 404.  The toolchains that I did manage
 to track down are not all complete, some have a gdb in the archive, others
 don't.
 
 Can someone point me in the direction of a complete toolchain with
 instructions on how to install it correctly?
 
 Thank you,
 Simon 
 
 On Wednesday, 28 May 2014 08:52:36 UTC+1, Simon Platten  wrote:
 Hi John, Thank you for the reply, perhaps I wasn't very clear.  GDB Server is
 installed on the Beaglebone Black and I see the process running, it just
 fails to connect.
 
 I will post more detail when I get home tonight.  I've tried using the
 default port 2345 and also found a post suggesting , neither worked.
 
 
 
 On Wednesday, 28 May 2014 08:45:53 UTC+1, john3909  wrote:
 
 From:  Simon Platten simona...@gmail.com
 Reply-To:  beagl...@googlegroups.com
 Date:  Tuesday, May 27, 2014 at 11:53 PM
 To:  beagl...@googlegroups.com
 Subject:  [beagleboard] Eclipse C and Remote Debugging
 
 I have Eclipse Kepler running on Ubuntu 14.04 x64, I can build and remote
 debug Java applications on the Beaglebone Black, but for some reason I
 cannot remote debug C applications.
 
 I can compile a C application and I can see that it is transferred to the
 Beaglebone Black, I can even run it from an SSH terminal on the Beaglebone
 Black.  But trying to remote debug always fails with a GDB error.
 
 The console reports that GDB will reconnect, however it never does.
 
 I've tried following numerous videos on YouTube, however none of them have
 resolved this issue.
 
 In the end I decided to build and compile on the Beaglebone Black directly,
 however now I get an error saying GLIBC_2.17 libc.so.6 not found...sorry if
 my post isn't very detailed, I'm at work now without access to all the
 information.
 
 Can anyone point me in the right location to resolve either the remote
 debugging or the GLIBC_2.17 error?  I have already spent a very long time
 trying to find answers myself.
 You need GDBServer installed on your BBB. You launch GDBServer on your BBB
 with IP of host and specify the port number for the host to connect to. In
 Eclipse, I don¹t recall the exact command, but it is something like gdb
 remote BBB ipaddr BBB port. There are plenty of example on Google.
 
 https://www.google.com/search?q=eclipse+gdbserver+remote+debugoq=eclipse+gd
 bserveraqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l5.16411j0j7sourceid=chromees_sm=119ie=UTF-8
 
 Regards
 John
 
 
 Thank you,
 
 Kind Regards,
 Simon
 
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Re: [beagleboard] Eclipse C and Remote Debugging

2014-05-28 Thread Simon Platten
What happened to Angstrom?  What do new Beaglebone Blacks ship with?

I've already invested a bunch of time into the Angstrom set-up getting 
mySQL server configured in MMM mode replicating between two beaglebone 
blacks with my own floating IP address manager.


On Wednesday, 28 May 2014 20:44:45 UTC+1, john3909 wrote:


 From: Simon Platten simona...@gmail.com javascript:
 Reply-To: beagl...@googlegroups.com javascript:
 Date: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 at 12:09 PM
 To: beagl...@googlegroups.com javascript:
 Subject: Re: [beagleboard] Eclipse C and Remote Debugging

 I'm still looking for a solution and getting more and more frustrated by 
 what seems to be a very steep up hill battle.

 There are quite a few sites linking to 
 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/toolchains/

 I think you are going to find it harder and harder to get support for 
 Angstrom. It has been over a year since I’ve used Angstrom so I don’t every 
 remember how to get some things working. I would recommend that you make 
 the move to Debian as we are much more able to help with the OS we 
 currently use. 

 Regards,
 John


 This link is invalid and results in a 404.  The toolchains that I did 
 manage to track down are not all complete, some have a gdb in the archive, 
 others don't.

 Can someone point me in the direction of a complete toolchain with 
 instructions on how to install it correctly?

 Thank you,
 Simon 

 On Wednesday, 28 May 2014 08:52:36 UTC+1, Simon Platten wrote:

 Hi John, Thank you for the reply, perhaps I wasn't very clear.  GDB 
 Server is installed on the Beaglebone Black and I see the process running, 
 it just fails to connect. 

 I will post more detail when I get home tonight.  I've tried using the 
 default port 2345 and also found a post suggesting , neither worked.



 On Wednesday, 28 May 2014 08:45:53 UTC+1, john3909 wrote:


 From: Simon Platten simona...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: beagl...@googlegroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 at 11:53 PM
 To: beagl...@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [beagleboard] Eclipse C and Remote Debugging

 I have Eclipse Kepler running on Ubuntu 14.04 x64, I can build and 
 remote debug Java applications on the Beaglebone Black, but for some reason 
 I cannot remote debug C applications.

 I can compile a C application and I can see that it is transferred to 
 the Beaglebone Black, I can even run it from an SSH terminal on the 
 Beaglebone Black.  But trying to remote debug always fails with a GDB error.

 The console reports that GDB will reconnect, however it never does.

 I've tried following numerous videos on YouTube, however none of them 
 have resolved this issue.

 In the end I decided to build and compile on the Beaglebone Black 
 directly, however now I get an error saying GLIBC_2.17 libc.so.6 not 
 found...sorry if my post isn't very detailed, I'm at work now without 
 access to all the information.

 Can anyone point me in the right location to resolve either the remote 
 debugging or the GLIBC_2.17 error?  I have already spent a very long time 
 trying to find answers myself.

 You need GDBServer installed on your BBB. You launch GDBServer on your 
 BBB with IP of host and specify the port number for the host to connect to. 
 In Eclipse, I don’t recall the exact command, but it is something like gdb 
 remote BBB ipaddr BBB port. There are plenty of example on Google. 


 https://www.google.com/search?q=eclipse+gdbserver+remote+debugoq=eclipse+gdbserveraqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l5.16411j0j7sourceid=chromees_sm=119ie=UTF-8

 Regards
 John



 Thank you,

 Kind Regards,
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Re: [beagleboard] Eclipse C and Remote Debugging

2014-05-28 Thread William Hermans
I remember someone saying that GDB for the BBB ( perhaps the whole ARCH )
Does not work properly. This was last year though.

Which port are you using for the C GDBServer ? From what little you
describe it almost sounds like a connection issue, because of too low a
port, and a possible myriad of  other things.

Giving us the EXACT error message as given to you on the command line would
certainly help *some* But as John said, you may want to consider moving to
Debian just because most people are using it now, or will be.


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:44 PM, John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:


 From: Simon Platten simonaplat...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 at 12:09 PM
 To: beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [beagleboard] Eclipse C and Remote Debugging

 I'm still looking for a solution and getting more and more frustrated by
 what seems to be a very steep up hill battle.

 There are quite a few sites linking to
 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/toolchains/

 I think you are going to find it harder and harder to get support for
 Angstrom. It has been over a year since I’ve used Angstrom so I don’t every
 remember how to get some things working. I would recommend that you make
 the move to Debian as we are much more able to help with the OS we
 currently use.

 Regards,
 John


 This link is invalid and results in a 404.  The toolchains that I did
 manage to track down are not all complete, some have a gdb in the archive,
 others don't.

 Can someone point me in the direction of a complete toolchain with
 instructions on how to install it correctly?

 Thank you,
 Simon

 On Wednesday, 28 May 2014 08:52:36 UTC+1, Simon Platten wrote:

 Hi John, Thank you for the reply, perhaps I wasn't very clear.  GDB
 Server is installed on the Beaglebone Black and I see the process running,
 it just fails to connect.

 I will post more detail when I get home tonight.  I've tried using the
 default port 2345 and also found a post suggesting , neither worked.



 On Wednesday, 28 May 2014 08:45:53 UTC+1, john3909 wrote:


 From: Simon Platten simona...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: beagl...@googlegroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 at 11:53 PM
 To: beagl...@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [beagleboard] Eclipse C and Remote Debugging

 I have Eclipse Kepler running on Ubuntu 14.04 x64, I can build and
 remote debug Java applications on the Beaglebone Black, but for some reason
 I cannot remote debug C applications.

 I can compile a C application and I can see that it is transferred to
 the Beaglebone Black, I can even run it from an SSH terminal on the
 Beaglebone Black.  But trying to remote debug always fails with a GDB error.

 The console reports that GDB will reconnect, however it never does.

 I've tried following numerous videos on YouTube, however none of them
 have resolved this issue.

 In the end I decided to build and compile on the Beaglebone Black
 directly, however now I get an error saying GLIBC_2.17 libc.so.6 not
 found...sorry if my post isn't very detailed, I'm at work now without
 access to all the information.

 Can anyone point me in the right location to resolve either the remote
 debugging or the GLIBC_2.17 error?  I have already spent a very long time
 trying to find answers myself.

 You need GDBServer installed on your BBB. You launch GDBServer on your
 BBB with IP of host and specify the port number for the host to connect to.
 In Eclipse, I don’t recall the exact command, but it is something like gdb
 remote BBB ipaddr BBB port. There are plenty of example on Google.

 https://www.google.com/search?q=eclipse+gdbserver+remote+
 debugoq=eclipse+gdbserveraqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l5.
 16411j0j7sourceid=chromees_sm=119ie=UTF-8

 Regards
 John



 Thank you,

 Kind Regards,
 Simon

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Re: [beagleboard] Eclipse C and Remote Debugging

2014-05-28 Thread William Hermans
New Bealgebone Black ship with Debian starting with REV C. Also Debian
users seem to be more active in this group.


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Simon Platten simonaplat...@gmail.comwrote:

 What happened to Angstrom?  What do new Beaglebone Blacks ship with?

 I've already invested a bunch of time into the Angstrom set-up getting
 mySQL server configured in MMM mode replicating between two beaglebone
 blacks with my own floating IP address manager.



 On Wednesday, 28 May 2014 20:44:45 UTC+1, john3909 wrote:


 From: Simon Platten simona...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: beagl...@googlegroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 at 12:09 PM
 To: beagl...@googlegroups.com

 Subject: Re: [beagleboard] Eclipse C and Remote Debugging

 I'm still looking for a solution and getting more and more frustrated by
 what seems to be a very steep up hill battle.

 There are quite a few sites linking to http://www.angstrom-
 distribution.org/toolchains/

 I think you are going to find it harder and harder to get support for
 Angstrom. It has been over a year since I’ve used Angstrom so I don’t every
 remember how to get some things working. I would recommend that you make
 the move to Debian as we are much more able to help with the OS we
 currently use.

 Regards,
 John


 This link is invalid and results in a 404.  The toolchains that I did
 manage to track down are not all complete, some have a gdb in the archive,
 others don't.

 Can someone point me in the direction of a complete toolchain with
 instructions on how to install it correctly?

 Thank you,
 Simon

 On Wednesday, 28 May 2014 08:52:36 UTC+1, Simon Platten wrote:

 Hi John, Thank you for the reply, perhaps I wasn't very clear.  GDB
 Server is installed on the Beaglebone Black and I see the process running,
 it just fails to connect.

 I will post more detail when I get home tonight.  I've tried using the
 default port 2345 and also found a post suggesting , neither worked.



 On Wednesday, 28 May 2014 08:45:53 UTC+1, john3909 wrote:


 From: Simon Platten simona...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: beagl...@googlegroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 at 11:53 PM
 To: beagl...@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [beagleboard] Eclipse C and Remote Debugging

 I have Eclipse Kepler running on Ubuntu 14.04 x64, I can build and
 remote debug Java applications on the Beaglebone Black, but for some reason
 I cannot remote debug C applications.

 I can compile a C application and I can see that it is transferred to
 the Beaglebone Black, I can even run it from an SSH terminal on the
 Beaglebone Black.  But trying to remote debug always fails with a GDB 
 error.

 The console reports that GDB will reconnect, however it never does.

 I've tried following numerous videos on YouTube, however none of them
 have resolved this issue.

 In the end I decided to build and compile on the Beaglebone Black
 directly, however now I get an error saying GLIBC_2.17 libc.so.6 not
 found...sorry if my post isn't very detailed, I'm at work now without
 access to all the information.

 Can anyone point me in the right location to resolve either the remote
 debugging or the GLIBC_2.17 error?  I have already spent a very long time
 trying to find answers myself.

 You need GDBServer installed on your BBB. You launch GDBServer on your
 BBB with IP of host and specify the port number for the host to connect to.
 In Eclipse, I don’t recall the exact command, but it is something like gdb
 remote BBB ipaddr BBB port. There are plenty of example on Google.

 https://www.google.com/search?q=eclipse+gdbserver+remote+
 debugoq=eclipse+gdbserveraqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l5.
 16411j0j7sourceid=chromees_sm=119ie=UTF-8

 Regards
 John



 Thank you,

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Re: [beagleboard] Eclipse C and Remote Debugging

2014-05-28 Thread Robert Nelson
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Simon Platten simonaplat...@gmail.com wrote:
 What happened to Angstrom?  What do new Beaglebone Blacks ship with?

http://beagleboard.org/blog/2014-01-04-happy-new-year/

http://beagleboard.org/latest-images


 I've already invested a bunch of time into the Angstrom set-up getting mySQL
 server configured in MMM mode replicating between two beaglebone blacks with
 my own floating IP address manager.

Linux is linux, shouldn't be that hard to port that to debian. But no
one is forcing you to switch either.

Regards,

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Re: [beagleboard] Eclipse C and Remote Debugging

2014-05-28 Thread William Hermans
Robert, I agree, but default it seemed the tools used in Angstrom are
different and create more headache for people like me who have been using
Debian for years. Many things like dropbear, instead of openssh-server for
instance can be a PitA to get used to. Especially when you already have
experience with other tools. Not to mention the fact that the whole
Angstrom experience for me personally felt very shoddy.

Needless to say Angstrom lasted about a week on my own BBB until i found
your instructions last year. Been running debian ever since.


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Simon Platten simonaplat...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  What happened to Angstrom?  What do new Beaglebone Blacks ship with?

 http://beagleboard.org/blog/2014-01-04-happy-new-year/

 http://beagleboard.org/latest-images


  I've already invested a bunch of time into the Angstrom set-up getting
 mySQL
  server configured in MMM mode replicating between two beaglebone blacks
 with
  my own floating IP address manager.

 Linux is linux, shouldn't be that hard to port that to debian. But no
 one is forcing you to switch either.

 Regards,

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Re: [beagleboard] Eclipse C and Remote Debugging

2014-05-28 Thread Simon Platten
I'll give Debian a go.  Just find it hard to start over again, feels 
like so many steps backward in order to do what should have been 
possible from the start.



On 28/05/2014 21:00, William Hermans wrote:
Robert, I agree, but default it seemed the tools used in Angstrom are 
different and create more headache for people like me who have been 
using Debian for years. Many things like dropbear, instead of 
openssh-server for instance can be a PitA to get used to. Especially 
when you already have experience with other tools. Not to mention the 
fact that the whole Angstrom experience for me personally felt very 
shoddy.


Needless to say Angstrom lasted about a week on my own BBB until i 
found your instructions last year. Been running debian ever since.



On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Robert Nelson 
robertcnel...@gmail.com mailto:robertcnel...@gmail.com wrote:


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Simon Platten
simonaplat...@gmail.com mailto:simonaplat...@gmail.com wrote:
 What happened to Angstrom?  What do new Beaglebone Blacks ship with?

http://beagleboard.org/blog/2014-01-04-happy-new-year/

http://beagleboard.org/latest-images


 I've already invested a bunch of time into the Angstrom set-up
getting mySQL
 server configured in MMM mode replicating between two beaglebone
blacks with
 my own floating IP address manager.

Linux is linux, shouldn't be that hard to port that to debian. But no
one is forcing you to switch either.

Regards,

--
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Re: [beagleboard] Eclipse C and Remote Debugging

2014-05-28 Thread Robert Nelson
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:00 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Robert, I agree, but default it seemed the tools used in Angstrom are
 different and create more headache for people like me who have been using
 Debian for years. Many things like dropbear, instead of openssh-server for
 instance can be a PitA to get used to. Especially when you already have
 experience with other tools. Not to mention the fact that the whole Angstrom
 experience for me personally felt very shoddy.

Laughs, i forgot about all the dropbear problems.  It seemed like it
was everyday with messages, just delete this file on the microSD and
boot.

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Re: [beagleboard] Using /etc/init/_.conf for autostarting services

2014-05-28 Thread William Hermans
Jon, or you can just deal with it. As I deal with you bottom posts. It bugs
me, but I deal with it. I hate reading through a wall of text to get to the
point. If i need to remember something I can always read previous posts..


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:40 PM, John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:


 From: Colin Bester bester.co...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 at 12:22 PM

 To: beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [beagleboard] Using /etc/init/_.conf for autostarting
 services

 Yup, for now it’s the way forward. Actually pretty easy all in all and I
 do like the concepts. I am battling a bit with ordering startup, but will
 push through!

 You should stop top posting as this isn’t considered good etiquette.
 Rather post your response just below the text you are responding to so
 everyone understand the context of your response. With that out the way,
 the order is determined by it’s dependency. Systemd will wait for the
 dependency to complete before starting this service. When there is no
 dependency, services are started in parallel. This is why Systemd is so
 much faster.

 systemd-analyze blame

 Will help you understand the startup order.

 Regards,
 John


 ~C

 On May 28, 2014, at 2:05 PM, John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:


 From: William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 at 11:56 AM
 To: beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [beagleboard] Using /etc/init/_.conf for autostarting
 services

 Or more correctly in this case I should say The Wheezy way, since Debian
 things have been changing fairly rapidly the last few years it seems.

 Yeah, but systemd has won so we all have to get use to it ;-)




 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:55 AM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.comwrote:

 Ah, ok, I get that. but I'm more of a traditional the Debian way kind
 of person.


 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Colin Bester bester.co...@gmail.comwrote:

 No right or wrong, I just want to get away from init.d. I far prefer
 concept of systemd, but confusion reigns due to my lack of knowledge, time
 to read!

 On May 28, 2014, at 1:36 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:

 init.d can be made to run a service at boot up too. Is there a problem
 with this ?


 http://www.embeddedhobbyist.com/debian-tips/beaglebone-black/beaglebone-black-init-scripts-default-gatewayand-ntpdate/


 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 6:30 AM, Colin Bester bester.co...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks

 On May 28, 2014, at 8:28 AM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:15 AM, Colin Bester bester.co...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I am looking to add a auto start service using conf file in
 /etc/init but it
  seems that debian version on BBB presently only supports older style
  /etc/init.d sys  init scripts.
 
  I thought I'd ask the group before starting to add packages to
 install on
  whether this newer version is supported or should I go straight to
 using
  systemd for startup of services.
 
  My aim is not to stray to far from base debian image in these early
 days.
 
  systemd is enabled in the debian image here:
 
  http://beagleboard.org/latest-images
 
  and /etc/init.d/* style script are still run in a systemd
  compatibility script.
 
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Re: [beagleboard] Where files per the Angstrom manual?

2014-05-28 Thread David Farning
I would recommend that you upgrade your machines to the new Debian
based release. I think you will find that there is more information
about Debian than there is about Angstrom.

The reason for the project moving from Angstrom to Debian is to allow
developers to use Debian which is more common and better documented.

David


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 Hi,

 I'm working through a book to learn Linux and have a couple BBBs.  According
 to the Angstrom manual, the file system is supposed to be initialized via
 initramfs.cpio.gz.  But find doesn't find it.  I dug around a little online,
 but did not find any information about how the kernel file system are booted
 on Angstrom.  I'm using Embedded Linux Primer (2012).  Where files per the
 Angstrom manual? If the system has changed, where is the documentaion for
 it?

 Thanks!

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Re: [beagleboard] Eclipse C and Remote Debugging

2014-05-28 Thread Robert Nelson
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Simon Platten simonaplat...@gmail.comwrote:

  I'll give Debian a go.  Just find it hard to start over again, feels like
 so many steps backward in order to do what should have been possible from
 the start.


Well, one of the goals of the debian images, was to make things as
back-ward compatiable with Angstrom as possible.

So although some tools have different names, the experience should mirror
Angstrom's default install.

I've tried to post the main differences in experience here:

http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#FAQ

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Re: [beagleboard] Using /etc/init/_.conf for autostarting services

2014-05-28 Thread Colin Bester
Thanks!

On May 28, 2014, at 2:40 PM, John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Colin Bester bester.co...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 at 12:22 PM
 To: beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [beagleboard] Using /etc/init/_.conf for autostarting services
 
 Yup, for now it's the way forward. Actually pretty easy all in all and I do 
 like the concepts. I am battling a bit with ordering startup, but will push 
 through!
 
 You should stop top posting as this isn't considered good etiquette. Rather 
 post your response just below the text you are responding to so everyone 
 understand the context of your response. With that out the way, the order is 
 determined by it's dependency. Systemd will wait for the dependency to 
 complete before starting this service. When there is no dependency, services 
 are started in parallel. This is why Systemd is so much faster. 
 
 systemd-analyze blame
 
 Will help you understand the startup order.
 
 Regards,
 John

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Re: [beagleboard] Eclipse C and Remote Debugging

2014-05-28 Thread Simon Platten

Thank you, I'll look into it and give it a go.

Are they're any shortfalls to be aware of, anything that isn't supported?

On 28/05/2014 21:05, Robert Nelson wrote:




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simonaplat...@gmail.com mailto:simonaplat...@gmail.com wrote:


I'll give Debian a go.  Just find it hard to start over again,
feels like so many steps backward in order to do what should have
been possible from the start.


Well, one of the goals of the debian images, was to make things as 
back-ward compatiable with Angstrom as possible.


So although some tools have different names, the experience should 
mirror Angstrom's default install.


I've tried to post the main differences in experience here:

http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#FAQ

Regards,

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Re: [beagleboard] Eclipse C and Remote Debugging

2014-05-28 Thread William Hermans
Simon, one benefit is that Debian is very well documented. But also you
have different versions so you need to pay attention to that.

 Something like google search Debian wheezy how to x.y.z works very well
for 99% of the questions you'll have.


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 wrote:
  Robert, I agree, but default it seemed the tools used in Angstrom are
  different and create more headache for people like me who have been using
  Debian for years. Many things like dropbear, instead of openssh-server
 for
  instance can be a PitA to get used to. Especially when you already have
  experience with other tools. Not to mention the fact that the whole
 Angstrom
  experience for me personally felt very shoddy.

 Laughs, i forgot about all the dropbear problems.  It seemed like it
 was everyday with messages, just delete this file on the microSD and
 boot.

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Re: [beagleboard] Eclipse C and Remote Debugging

2014-05-28 Thread Robert Nelson
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Simon Platten simonaplat...@gmail.comwrote:

  Thank you, I'll look into it and give it a go.

 Are they're any shortfalls to be aware of, anything that isn't supported?


Well, right now we support more devices and capes out of the box then the
last official Angstrom release, but if you notice something we broke kernel
wise just ping us. We tried to test everything, but everyone has unique
hardware.

Otherwise the biggest change, it's a armhf (gnueabihf) based system, so
your gnueabi compiler won't work. (Well i did had the 'armel' library) so
hello world gnueabi applications will run, but nothing more complex
then that.

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Re: [beagleboard] Eclipse C and Remote Debugging

2014-05-28 Thread Simon Platten

Thank you, will do.

On 28/05/2014 21:07, William Hermans wrote:

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Re: [beagleboard] Can the BBB get damaged due to a hard power down?

2014-05-28 Thread Brandon I
For the damage question, yes, with all flash media, if you're not using a 
read only mount: http://cseweb.ucsd.edu/~swanson/papers/DAC2011PowerCut.pdf

Btw, you're crazy if you're not using a read only mount (or guaranteeing no 
writes) for the rootfs of an appliance. ;)

On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:46:07 AM UTC-7, stino wrote:

 Hi Gerald, Look I'm sorry if you took offence by my comment. It’s an 
 awesome board, don’t let anybody convince you otherwise  It's just that 
 I've not seen it being mentioned anywhere that a correct power down 
 procedure is required. If it was a deliberate design choice not to provide 
 some kind of fail-safe, I personally would have definitely made this clear 
 to every buyer.  I work hands-on with computer equipment of various makes 
 and models on a daily basis and I honestly can’t remember the last time a 
 box got bricked due to a power outage.  I myself, and as I suspect many 
 others, am thinking about turning the BBB into an embedded appliance which 
 makes the power button inaccessible.  

 Can you suggest how we can extend the powerbutton of from the board?


 Op dinsdag 27 mei 2014 15:27:21 UTC+2 schreef Gerald:

 This is why there is a power button. I suggest that you go to your PC and 
 yank the power cord. Whether it is running Linux or Windows, I suspect it 
 won't like it.

 If you can't use the power button, then yes you can design a cape 
 that will let it gracefully shutdown properly. When I designed the board I 
 felt that a button was less expensive that all the other stuff you would 
 need to put on the cape. Not to mention the small form factor of 
 the board made it tough to fit all that onto the board. And yes, in a small 
 number of instances, we have seen that yanking the power may cause damage 
 to the processor because the PMIC does not have enough time to power down 
 the processor in the correct voltage sequence. So, use the power button.



 Gerald


 On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 10:37 AM, William Hermans yyr...@gmail.comwrote:

 What happens, or *can* happens when you just yank the power on a PC 
 running Linux ?

 1) You can make teh file system read only.
 2) You can design or create a power cape that shutdown gracefully when 
 power goes missing.
 ...) ???


 On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 6:32 AM, stino stijnd...@gmail.com wrote:


 I read over at another forum that the BBB could get damaged if it 
 recieved an unexpected hard power down.., is this true, what can we do 
 about this? 

 Seems like a serious design flaw to me. One can't expect a power source 
 to be 100% stable and especially with a development board which is likely 
 to used for embedded appliances this is a reall issue..

 Thanks,


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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-05-28 Thread Rick Reynolds
Ok, I took a little different tack. I just copied  
/usr/bin/xinput_calibrator from a non-customized BBB to my custom image and 
it works great.

Thanks again for all your hard work Robert. You have taught me volumes.

On Friday, May 23, 2014 6:34:54 PM UTC-5, RobertCNelson wrote:

 On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Rick Reynolds 
 rwrm...@gmail.comjavascript: 
 wrote: 
  Thanks for your help, and all your hard work, Robert. I have used your 
  documentation extensively. 
  
  When I execute ./autogen.sh --with-gui=x11 either directly on the 
 bone, 
  from a an LXTerminal session, or over ssh I get the same end result. 
 it's 
  basically the same thing I saw when trying to cross build. 
  
  checking string usability... no 
  checking string presence... no 
  checking for string... no 
  checking list usability... no 
  checking list presence... no 
  checking for list... no 
  
  checking for stdbool.h that conforms to C99... yes 
  checking for _Bool... yes 
  checking for working strtod... yes 
  ./configure: line 4987: syntax error near unexpected token `XINPUT,' 
  ./configure: line 4987: `PKG_CHECK_MODULES(XINPUT, x11 xext xi 
 inputproto)' 

 Install xinput 

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[beagleboard] Custom Beaglbone Black from Circuitco

2014-05-28 Thread sixvolts
I've been trying to talk to the people CircuitCo about building a run of 
the beaglebone black boards for a commercial project, but I can't seem to 
get anyone to respond to emails and the two people I have phone numbers for 
are always busy.

My understanding was that proper etiquette was to not poach boards from the 
distributors if you build a device around the beaglebone and have them 
produced for you. I even spoke to someone at a CircuitCo booth at a 
conference last year (DesignWest - where the beaglebone black was 
launched) and they indicated this was common already for the original 
beagleboards/bones.

I can't get anyone local interested in building them because of some of the 
minimum order quantities on some of the parts (like the emmc).

Anyone at CircuitCo around? I have money and need around 100 boards made.

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Re: [beagleboard] Can the BBB get damaged due to a hard power down?

2014-05-28 Thread John Syn

From:  Brandon I brandon.ir...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Wednesday, May 28, 2014 at 1:18 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Can the BBB get damaged due to a hard power
down?

 For the damage question, yes, with all flash media, if you're not using a read
 only mount: http://cseweb.ucsd.edu/~swanson/papers/DAC2011PowerCut.pdf
Excellent paper. Thank you for sharing.

Regards,
John
 
 Btw, you're crazy if you're not using a read only mount (or guaranteeing no
 writes) for the rootfs of an appliance. ;)
 
 On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:46:07 AM UTC-7, stino wrote:
 Hi Gerald, Look I'm sorry if you took offence by my comment. It¹s an awesome
 board, don¹t let anybody convince you otherwise  It's just that I've not seen
 it being mentioned anywhere that a correct power down procedure is required.
 If it was a deliberate design choice not to provide some kind of fail-safe, I
 personally would have definitely made this clear to every buyer.  I work
 hands-on with computer equipment of various makes and models on a daily basis
 and I honestly can¹t remember the last time a box got bricked due to a power
 outage.  I myself, and as I suspect many others, am thinking about turning
 the BBB into an embedded appliance which makes the power button inaccessible.
 
 Can you suggest how we can extend the powerbutton of from the board?
 
 
 Op dinsdag 27 mei 2014 15:27:21 UTC+2 schreef Gerald:
 This is why there is a power button. I suggest that you go to your PC and
 yank the power cord. Whether it is running Linux or Windows, I suspect it
 won't like it.
 
 If you can't use the power button, then yes you can design a cape that will
 let it gracefully shutdown properly. When I designed the board I felt that a
 button was less expensive that all the other stuff you would need to put on
 the cape. Not to mention the small form factor of the board made it tough to
 fit all that onto the board. And yes, in a small number of instances, we
 have seen that yanking the power may cause damage to the processor because
 the PMIC does not have enough time to power down the processor in the
 correct voltage sequence. So, use the power button.
 
 
 
 Gerald
 
 
 On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 10:37 AM, William Hermans yyr...@gmail.com wrote:
 What happens, or *can* happens when you just yank the power on a PC running
 Linux ?
 
 1) You can make teh file system read only.
 2) You can design or create a power cape that shutdown gracefully when
 power goes missing.
 ...) ???
 
 
 On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 6:32 AM, stino stijnd...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I read over at another forum that the BBB could get damaged if it recieved
 an unexpected hard power down.., is this true, what can we do about
 this? 
 
 Seems like a serious design flaw to me. One can't expect a power source to
 be 100% stable and especially with a development board which is likely to
 used for embedded appliances this is a reall issue..
 
 Thanks,
 
 
 
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Re: [beagleboard] Custom Beaglbone Black from Circuitco

2014-05-28 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Wed, 28 May 2014, sixvolts wrote:

 I've been trying to talk to the people CircuitCo about building a
 run of the beaglebone black boards for a commercial project, but I
 can't seem to get anyone to respond to emails and the two people I
 have phone numbers for are always busy. My understanding was that
 proper etiquette was to not poach boards from the distributors if
 you build a device around the beaglebone and have them produced for
 you. I even spoke to someone at a CircuitCo booth at a conference
 last year (DesignWest - where the beaglebone black was launched)
 and they indicated this was common already for the original
 beagleboards/bones.

 I can't get anyone local interested in building them because of some
 of the minimum order quantities on some of the parts (like the
 emmc).

 Anyone at CircuitCo around? I have money and need around 100 boards
 made.

  not many manufacturers would consider 100 units much of a run.
that's not the sort of number that's going to get you much attention.
just an observation.

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Re: [beagleboard] Custom Beaglbone Black from Circuitco

2014-05-28 Thread sixvolts
There are plenty of things that get built and sold in those kinds of 
numbers, like specialized instruments. 



On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:33:49 PM UTC-5, Robert P. J. Day wrote:

 On Wed, 28 May 2014, sixvolts wrote: 

  I've been trying to talk to the people CircuitCo about building a 
  run of the beaglebone black boards for a commercial project, but I 
  can't seem to get anyone to respond to emails and the two people I 
  have phone numbers for are always busy. My understanding was that 
  proper etiquette was to not poach boards from the distributors if 
  you build a device around the beaglebone and have them produced for 
  you. I even spoke to someone at a CircuitCo booth at a conference 
  last year (DesignWest - where the beaglebone black was launched) 
  and they indicated this was common already for the original 
  beagleboards/bones. 
  
  I can't get anyone local interested in building them because of some 
  of the minimum order quantities on some of the parts (like the 
  emmc). 
  
  Anyone at CircuitCo around? I have money and need around 100 boards 
  made. 

   not many manufacturers would consider 100 units much of a run. 
 that's not the sort of number that's going to get you much attention. 
 just an observation. 

 rday 

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Re: [beagleboard] Custom Beaglbone Black from Circuitco

2014-05-28 Thread Gerald Coley
100 boards is not a lot of boards. Especially when you
have distributors screaming for 50,000 boards to fill their large POs..

Gerald



On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:38 PM, sixvolts drewko...@gmail.com wrote:

 There are plenty of things that get built and sold in those kinds of
 numbers, like specialized instruments.



 On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:33:49 PM UTC-5, Robert P. J. Day wrote:

 On Wed, 28 May 2014, sixvolts wrote:

  I've been trying to talk to the people CircuitCo about building a
  run of the beaglebone black boards for a commercial project, but I
  can't seem to get anyone to respond to emails and the two people I
  have phone numbers for are always busy. My understanding was that
  proper etiquette was to not poach boards from the distributors if
  you build a device around the beaglebone and have them produced for
  you. I even spoke to someone at a CircuitCo booth at a conference
  last year (DesignWest - where the beaglebone black was launched)
  and they indicated this was common already for the original
  beagleboards/bones.
 
  I can't get anyone local interested in building them because of some
  of the minimum order quantities on some of the parts (like the
  emmc).
 
  Anyone at CircuitCo around? I have money and need around 100 boards
  made.

   not many manufacturers would consider 100 units much of a run.
 that's not the sort of number that's going to get you much attention.
 just an observation.

 rday

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Re: [beagleboard] Problems with updating Beaglebone Black via opkg install

2014-05-28 Thread padswap via BeagleBoard
Hi,
you have to connect your BBB directly to the internet via the ethernet 
connector on the BBB. That was my fault...I only connect it over usb to control 
with command line and I got the same errors. 
So be sure that your BBB is connected to the internet.(I think tethering over 
usb is not possible) 
Maybe this might solve your problem...

Regards
Am 28.05.2014 um 20:44 schrieb rpauly92 via BeagleBoard 
beagleboard@googlegroups.com:

 I am having the same issue with mine at the moment. For me however, I am able 
 to reach the links it provides when it displays 
 the collected errors. But I do want to know why the opkg_download failed. 
 
 
 
 root@beaglebone:~# opkg update
 Downloading 
 http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/base/Packages.gz.
 wget: bad address 'feeds.angstrom-distribution.org'
 Downloading 
 http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/machine/beaglebone/Packages.gz.
 wget: bad address 'feeds.angstrom-distribution.org'
 Downloading 
 http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/debug/Packages.gz.
 wget: bad address 'feeds.angstrom-distribution.org'
 Downloading 
 http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/gstreamer/Packages.gz.
 wget: bad address 'feeds.angstrom-distribution.org'
 Downloading 
 http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/all/Packages.gz.
 wget: bad address 'feeds.angstrom-distribution.org'
 Downloading 
 http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/perl/Packages.gz.
 wget: bad address 'feeds.angstrom-distribution.org'
 Downloading 
 http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/python/Packages.gz.
 wget: bad address 'feeds.angstrom-distribution.org'
 Collected errors:
  * opkg_download: Failed to download 
 http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/base/Packages.gz,
  wget returned 1.
  * opkg_download: Failed to download 
 http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/machine/beaglebone/Packages.gz,
  wget returned 1.
  * opkg_download: Failed to download 
 http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/debug/Packages.gz,
  wget returned 1.
  * opkg_download: Failed to download 
 http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/gstreamer/Packages.gz,
  wget returned 1.
  * opkg_download: Failed to download 
 http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/all/Packages.gz,
  wget returned 1.
  * opkg_download: Failed to download 
 http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/perl/Packages.gz,
  wget returned 1.
  * opkg_download: Failed to download 
 http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/python/Packages.gz,
  wget returned 1.
 
 
 I can connect to the links it provides, but I want to know why they aren't 
 downloadable from the PuTTY. I am wondering if there is just a bad connection 
 remaining  between the BBB and my PC (Windows 7). 
 
 I am still very new with the BBB, and learning more about it as I am 
 interning. My main project while I work here circles around the use of the 
 BBB, I just seem to be
 butting heads with it lately. I'd love to get some feedback about how I 
 should go about fixing it. I am trying to fix it in order to create a web 
 server through the BBB if that helps any in figuring out the issue.
 
 
 Thanks,
 Ryan
 
 
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[beagleboard] Cross compiling for Ubuntu 14.04

2014-05-28 Thread Andrew Core
Hi, I can't seem to find a cross compiler for debian BBB that works 
(consistently) on Ubuntu 14.04

I'm using the latest debian image for BBB from 
beagleboard.org/latest-imageshttps://groups.google.com/forum/#%21category-topic/beagleboard/debian/mdd-Y7QsE8M
.

I'm running 64 bit Ubuntu 14.04.  I've managed to make my programs run on 
Angstrom, but I've been failing for about a week trying to port to Debian.

I tried the Linaro gcc at 
http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black#BeagleBoneBlack-uEnv.txtbasedbootscript
  
and arm-linux-gnueabihf-g++ worked for most of my files.  However, two of 
my files will compile and fail to run on the BBB.

I enter: 
arm-linux-gnueabihf-g++ -Wall -Wno-unused-parameter -W -Wshadow 
-DARM_COMPILE -pthread -lstdc++ -lrt -o fileName $(SRCS)

and when I run the file on the BBB (./fileName, like I did for the other 
programs that worked), I get:
./fileName: /lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.17' not 
found (required by ./fileName)

What did I do wrong?  Alternatively, is there a different cross tool chain?

Sorry to take up your time, and thanks in advance for the help.

Best,
Andrew

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Re: [beagleboard] Cross compiling for Ubuntu 14.04

2014-05-28 Thread Robert Nelson
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Andrew Core andrewcore...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, I can't seem to find a cross compiler for debian BBB that works
 (consistently) on Ubuntu 14.04

 I'm using the latest debian image for BBB from
 beagleboard.org/latest-images.

 I'm running 64 bit Ubuntu 14.04.  I've managed to make my programs run on
 Angstrom, but I've been failing for about a week trying to port to Debian.

 I tried the Linaro gcc at
 http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black#BeagleBoneBlack-uEnv.txtbasedbootscript
 and arm-linux-gnueabihf-g++ worked for most of my files.  However, two of my
 files will compile and fail to run on the BBB.

 I enter:
 arm-linux-gnueabihf-g++ -Wall -Wno-unused-parameter -W -Wshadow
 -DARM_COMPILE -pthread -lstdc++ -lrt -o fileName $(SRCS)

 and when I run the file on the BBB (./fileName, like I did for the other
 programs that worked), I get:
 ./fileName: /lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.17' not
 found (required by ./fileName)

Debian wheezy only has GLIBC_2.13..

 What did I do wrong?  Alternatively, is there a different cross tool chain?

 Sorry to take up your time, and thanks in advance for the help.

These *.deb match Debian Wheezy, not sure if they'll install in 14.04:

http://rcn-ee.net/deb/cross/test/

built with:
https://github.com/RobertCNelson/cross-compiler

in a Wheezy VM.

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[beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-05-28 Thread michael . duffy
I'm running the latest (flashed to mmc) on a Rev B BBB.  
*/boot/uboot/ID.txt* contains *BeagleBoard.org BeagleBone Debian Image 
2014-05-14*

The image appears to be missing *journalctl*, e.g. *find / -name journalctl 
*returns nothing.  dpkg reports systemd is installed (and the *systemd *command 
works).  What am I missing here?

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Re: [beagleboard] Where files per the Angstrom manual?

2014-05-28 Thread michael . duffy
Completely agree with David.  Angstrom seems to be a dead end, IMNSHO.

On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 1:04:14 PM UTC-7, David Farning wrote:

 I would recommend that you upgrade your machines to the new Debian 
 based release. I think you will find that there is more information 
 about Debian than there is about Angstrom. 

 The reason for the project moving from Angstrom to Debian is to allow 
 developers to use Debian which is more common and better documented. 

 David 


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 wrote: 
  Hi, 
  
  I'm working through a book to learn Linux and have a couple BBBs. 
  According 
  to the Angstrom manual, the file system is supposed to be initialized 
 via 
  initramfs.cpio.gz.  But find doesn't find it.  I dug around a little 
 online, 
  but did not find any information about how the kernel file system are 
 booted 
  on Angstrom.  I'm using Embedded Linux Primer (2012).  Where files per 
 the 
  Angstrom manual? If the system has changed, where is the documentaion 
 for 
  it? 
  
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-05-28 Thread Robert Nelson
It's there just an older version of systemd where it was prefixed. systemd-
On May 28, 2014 4:23 PM, michael.du...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm running the latest (flashed to mmc) on a Rev B BBB.
 */boot/uboot/ID.txt* contains *BeagleBoard.org BeagleBone Debian Image
 2014-05-14*

 The image appears to be missing *journalctl*, e.g. *find / -name
 journalctl *returns nothing.  dpkg reports systemd is installed (and the 
 *systemd
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