Re: [beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
hello david, when i run apt-get install codelite codelite-plugins it throws and error saying codelite not found On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 4:53 PM, David Goodenough david.goodeno...@linkchoose.co.uk wrote: On Friday 14 November 2014 03:03:32 csu...@idapl.in wrote: can anyone help me in how to setup codelite on beaglebone directy thanks in advance sumik If you are running Debian:- apt-get install codelite codelite-plugins You will either need to be root to do this or use sudo if that is set up. David -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/beagleboard/6lis7cZcTKg/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
I avoid using vi as much as I can so if I'm doing some simple testing of code on the bbb, I use the editor built in to mc (midnight commander). I'll have that open in one vc, run make in another and test the program in a 3rd. For debugging on the bbb I use cgdb which is a bit better than just the command line of gdb. -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
ug, midnight commander reminds me of the old dosshell, which was fine, for 1994 . . . Now days we have wonderful technologies such as Samba, NFS, and syntax highlighting editors. So we can do weird things like: boot our dev boards via NFS. Share a sub directory of the NFS share out via Samba. Write code on another system, via the Samba share, as if it were a local file. Compile natively on the dev board. Imagine that ! On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 3:30 AM, briselec via BeagleBoard beagleboard@googlegroups.com wrote: I avoid using vi as much as I can so if I'm doing some simple testing of code on the bbb, I use the editor built in to mc (midnight commander). I'll have that open in one vc, run make in another and test the program in a 3rd. For debugging on the bbb I use cgdb which is a bit better than just the command line of gdb. -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
with mc I can connect to another machine, edit remote files, move files between machines, peek inside and expand compressed files, etc, all without typing anything on a command line. And it's editor has syntax highlighting. On Sunday, November 16, 2014 10:24:54 PM UTC+10, William Hermans wrote: ug, midnight commander reminds me of the old dosshell, which was fine, for 1994 . . . Now days we have wonderful technologies such as Samba, NFS, and syntax highlighting editors. So we can do weird things like: boot our dev boards via NFS. Share a sub directory of the NFS share out via Samba. Write code on another system, via the Samba share, as if it were a local file. Compile natively on the dev board. Imagine that ! -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
'Barry Day' via BeagleBoard beagleboard@googlegroups.com wrote: [-- multipart/alternative, encoding 7bit, 70 lines --] [-- text/plain, encoding 7bit, charset: UTF-8, 32 lines --] between machines, peek inside and expand compressed files, etc, all without typing anything on a command line. And it's editor has syntax ... and why is that an advantage? :-) -- Chris Green · -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
can anyone help me in how to setup codelite on beaglebone directy thanks in advance sumik -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
On Friday 14 November 2014 03:03:32 csu...@idapl.in wrote: can anyone help me in how to setup codelite on beaglebone directy thanks in advance sumik If you are running Debian:- apt-get install codelite codelite-plugins You will either need to be root to do this or use sudo if that is set up. David -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
On Saturday, 5 January 2013 22:27:50 UTC, Fulvio C wrote: Hi all Finally I've got my BeagleBone today, and I started to play with it already. I've updated the latest distro of the OS, and set it up to run with a power adapter and ethernet cable. Love it so far. Now I have noticed that the OS has already g++, so it is possible to just write in VI simple C++ code, and compile it to run it directly from console (which is great for me). Altho, it does not seem possible to do the same in cloud9or I do not know how to do it. I am planning to write code with the board attached to my computer, so I can just write code as usual and then move the source on the board and compile there (or do everything on my machine and just send the compiled program to the board...still experimenting here); but there will be some cases where I will be on the go, and would just power the board and work on it without a computer (I have ordered a lcd cape for this purpose). VI is fine for simple code, but if you gotta code something more demanding, using VI would be a real pain, so I am trying to achieve productivity without burn my patience :) In the end, I would like to have a better editor than VI, and also would love to use an IDE instead than just using text editors without code completion, breakpoints, step by step instructions and so on...so I thought that cloud9 may work, since I just need to run the browser directly on the BeagleBone and I can code and compile on the go without a computer. Is this possible? Is there another way to accomplish what I need? I am pretty sure that if I install on the Angstrom release Eclipse, and try to use it; the board will just be too slow to run it, Thanks in advance for any pointer! On Saturday, 5 January 2013 22:27:50 UTC, Fulvio C wrote: Hi all Finally I've got my BeagleBone today, and I started to play with it already. I've updated the latest distro of the OS, and set it up to run with a power adapter and ethernet cable. Love it so far. Now I have noticed that the OS has already g++, so it is possible to just write in VI simple C++ code, and compile it to run it directly from console (which is great for me). Altho, it does not seem possible to do the same in cloud9or I do not know how to do it. I am planning to write code with the board attached to my computer, so I can just write code as usual and then move the source on the board and compile there (or do everything on my machine and just send the compiled program to the board...still experimenting here); but there will be some cases where I will be on the go, and would just power the board and work on it without a computer (I have ordered a lcd cape for this purpose). VI is fine for simple code, but if you gotta code something more demanding, using VI would be a real pain, so I am trying to achieve productivity without burn my patience :) In the end, I would like to have a better editor than VI, and also would love to use an IDE instead than just using text editors without code completion, breakpoints, step by step instructions and so on...so I thought that cloud9 may work, since I just need to run the browser directly on the BeagleBone and I can code and compile on the go without a computer. Is this possible? Is there another way to accomplish what I need? I am pretty sure that if I install on the Angstrom release Eclipse, and try to use it; the board will just be too slow to run it, Thanks in advance for any pointer! -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
Helllo, I am planning to get started with the BBB. I want to develop code in C or C++ on a PC, with Eclipse, compile and download to the BBB. I dont want to get into the Eclipse debate, just so happens that I am familiar with it, and find it very powerful, so that is way I want to go. I know it has been mentioned in this series of posts, Can somebody please give a step by step list of instructions, or possibly link, to how to get the full Eclipse toolchain setup and configured for use with the BBB. It would be really helpful if there were some example projects to help get started especially a project that uses the gpio. Thanks in advance, Mike. On Saturday, 5 January 2013 22:27:50 UTC, Fulvio C wrote: Hi all Finally I've got my BeagleBone today, and I started to play with it already. I've updated the latest distro of the OS, and set it up to run with a power adapter and ethernet cable. Love it so far. Now I have noticed that the OS has already g++, so it is possible to just write in VI simple C++ code, and compile it to run it directly from console (which is great for me). Altho, it does not seem possible to do the same in cloud9or I do not know how to do it. I am planning to write code with the board attached to my computer, so I can just write code as usual and then move the source on the board and compile there (or do everything on my machine and just send the compiled program to the board...still experimenting here); but there will be some cases where I will be on the go, and would just power the board and work on it without a computer (I have ordered a lcd cape for this purpose). VI is fine for simple code, but if you gotta code something more demanding, using VI would be a real pain, so I am trying to achieve productivity without burn my patience :) In the end, I would like to have a better editor than VI, and also would love to use an IDE instead than just using text editors without code completion, breakpoints, step by step instructions and so on...so I thought that cloud9 may work, since I just need to run the browser directly on the BeagleBone and I can code and compile on the go without a computer. Is this possible? Is there another way to accomplish what I need? I am pretty sure that if I install on the Angstrom release Eclipse, and try to use it; the board will just be too slow to run it, Thanks in advance for any pointer! -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
Guess it is a matter of preferences in the end...I trust more Oracle stuff than Microsoft. Memacs is able to do as you described; you can write macro; altho you are still tied to a debugger to debug an application; and the lack of many facilities makes you wonder why you hate yourself so much, to use a textual environment instead of a full graphical IDE...if you are in a pinch then it may work, but for any daily job, I would not rely on it. I think that a text editor is the base block for an IDE; then it is a matter of putting some buttons to run the build and run commands; but the hard part is all the translation from pure textual symbols to something more clean, when you are debugging. Technically you can script almost all the functions of gdb, but it is slow as hell. I believe that there is room for a full IDE on the BB; especially if you consider that stuff like Storm C was running on Pc and Amiga computers, which had 14 Mhz processor and barely a mb or 2 of ram http://www.haage-partner.de/amiga/storm/sc_ft_e.htm#StormC1 On Friday, March 7, 2014 9:33:17 PM UTC-8, William Hermans wrote: Personally I am allergic to anything that requires JRE. Hence I refuse to use Eclipse. There are text editors out there that are configurable to the point where you can configure external binaries to run on the press of a hotkey. Since the gcc toolchain consists of all cmd line tools, you do not need to output directly in the editor its self. You could however always redirect stdout / stderr if you so wished. Anyway, watch these sometime. https://tutsplus.com/course/improve-workflow-in-sublime-text-2/ Specifically Vintage mode. Which is essentially VIM inside the text editor. The text editor can also execute external binaries, and is highly configurable / customizable. Anyway, this is about as close to VI / VIM in an IDE you're going to get I suppose. As it happens I have started to write something which resembled a very simplistic IDE with no built in text editor. Instead of finishing it however, I instead invested some time learning how Code::Blocks works, and just use GDB via the command line. Personally, I think it is folly to even consider running an IDE directly on the BBB. So a moot point. On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Karl Longen 2frikki...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: William; to be an IDE it needs a debugger, compiler and linkerif you can do that just with VI, I will personally work 80 hours a day and donate all my salary to you for the rest of my life :) The problem is not if Dev-C++ is open source or not...80% of the code probably is not even reusable (I don't really have the will nor the time to check it), and the rest is just the text editor probably; the problem thou is simple: it would be too heavy to run on the BB. Write my own? Either you have too much free time or I have a very busy life :) How many people do you know that build their own IDE, just because ? Reinventing the wheel is one of the biggest mistake that most of the novice programmers do...you are not writing code that someone else already wrote, because makes no sense...if there is a library you extend it or take part of it to customize it (if the license allow you to do so), for your needs; altho if the person that wrote the library is a good architect, he/she made the API as generic as possible, and probably with overloading where needed. Please leave out the VI topic, let's not start all over again with this nonsense. BTW the topic is an IDE that runs on the Beaglebonethanks for your insight about these software (I would go code:blocks for sure over VS...gb and gb of stuff that you may never use, just over bloating the software); it may help someone that is allergic to Eclipse. The original question started with that request, unless I am missing something. On Friday, March 7, 2014 8:47:11 PM UTC-8, William Hermans wrote: I.D.E == integrated development environment. Technically, any well featured text editor could do these same duties. Isnt bloodsheds DevC++ opensource ? Rewrite to use linaro's armhf toolchain . . . or make it configurable like Code::Blocks. Hell write your own for that matter.There is another similar ( but better looking ) C/C++ IDE out now. PellesC. I used to like bloodsheds IDE myself years ago, but prefer PellesC on the Windows desktop now days.However for cross platform developement ( cross arch ) PellesC is not configurable. At least not the last time I checked. Also, someone with 15 years development experience should know that there are many developers that use VIM. Most Unix / Linux developers I know prefer VIM. Hell as primarily a Windows developer for the last 18 years. Even I like the way it looks in appearance( or can be made to look ). *Visual Studio* Pro's: Excellent layout, very good code completion, excellent debug error reporting( honestly when setup
[beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
Mike, You may want to try to read the posts that were made; you will find everything you need. Just scroll up, you will find the link to youtube videos and some other link posted by other users. Google is also your friend; the first 5 top results will show you all that you need to know. Especially if you follow the channels on Youtube; you will find plenty of GPIO examples. BTW there is no debate about Eclipse...you probably just skimmed the posts here On Saturday, March 8, 2014 1:12:28 PM UTC-8, mmk...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Helllo, I am planning to get started with the BBB. I want to develop code in C or C++ on a PC, with Eclipse, compile and download to the BBB. I dont want to get into the Eclipse debate, just so happens that I am familiar with it, and find it very powerful, so that is way I want to go. I know it has been mentioned in this series of posts, Can somebody please give a step by step list of instructions, or possibly link, to how to get the full Eclipse toolchain setup and configured for use with the BBB. It would be really helpful if there were some example projects to help get started especially a project that uses the gpio. Thanks in advance, Mike. On Saturday, 5 January 2013 22:27:50 UTC, Fulvio C wrote: Hi all Finally I've got my BeagleBone today, and I started to play with it already. I've updated the latest distro of the OS, and set it up to run with a power adapter and ethernet cable. Love it so far. Now I have noticed that the OS has already g++, so it is possible to just write in VI simple C++ code, and compile it to run it directly from console (which is great for me). Altho, it does not seem possible to do the same in cloud9or I do not know how to do it. I am planning to write code with the board attached to my computer, so I can just write code as usual and then move the source on the board and compile there (or do everything on my machine and just send the compiled program to the board...still experimenting here); but there will be some cases where I will be on the go, and would just power the board and work on it without a computer (I have ordered a lcd cape for this purpose). VI is fine for simple code, but if you gotta code something more demanding, using VI would be a real pain, so I am trying to achieve productivity without burn my patience :) In the end, I would like to have a better editor than VI, and also would love to use an IDE instead than just using text editors without code completion, breakpoints, step by step instructions and so on...so I thought that cloud9 may work, since I just need to run the browser directly on the BeagleBone and I can code and compile on the go without a computer. Is this possible? Is there another way to accomplish what I need? I am pretty sure that if I install on the Angstrom release Eclipse, and try to use it; the board will just be too slow to run it, Thanks in advance for any pointer! -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
You can find any old Eclipse howto that walks through setting up some form of a GCC toolchain in it. All the various tools are going to be named similar from toolchain to toolchain. The important part is knowing what settings to use with each tool ( compiler / linker etc ). The best thing here is to get a book on GCC( there are a few free online, findable with google ), and start reading. I know we al get impatient and do not want to invest a huge amount of time into something like this. However, you really need to know this information, and once learned it will apply to any GCC based compiler. If you are going the cross compile route you may want to consider using a linaro toolchain. This should simplify setup considerably. Then later as you understand moreyou can either make adjustments to this toolchain, or switch out completely without too much effort. As for the Eclipse debate. There really is none. I like the IDE a lot ( as in how it looks, configurability etc ), but i refuse to use anything JRE related. That is personal, and I do not expect / require anyone else to agree / understand. Eclipse certainly is a top notch IDE. On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Karl Longen 2frikkincra...@gmail.comwrote: Mike, You may want to try to read the posts that were made; you will find everything you need. Just scroll up, you will find the link to youtube videos and some other link posted by other users. Google is also your friend; the first 5 top results will show you all that you need to know. Especially if you follow the channels on Youtube; you will find plenty of GPIO examples. BTW there is no debate about Eclipse...you probably just skimmed the posts here On Saturday, March 8, 2014 1:12:28 PM UTC-8, mmk...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Helllo, I am planning to get started with the BBB. I want to develop code in C or C++ on a PC, with Eclipse, compile and download to the BBB. I dont want to get into the Eclipse debate, just so happens that I am familiar with it, and find it very powerful, so that is way I want to go. I know it has been mentioned in this series of posts, Can somebody please give a step by step list of instructions, or possibly link, to how to get the full Eclipse toolchain setup and configured for use with the BBB. It would be really helpful if there were some example projects to help get started especially a project that uses the gpio. Thanks in advance, Mike. On Saturday, 5 January 2013 22:27:50 UTC, Fulvio C wrote: Hi all Finally I've got my BeagleBone today, and I started to play with it already. I've updated the latest distro of the OS, and set it up to run with a power adapter and ethernet cable. Love it so far. Now I have noticed that the OS has already g++, so it is possible to just write in VI simple C++ code, and compile it to run it directly from console (which is great for me). Altho, it does not seem possible to do the same in cloud9or I do not know how to do it. I am planning to write code with the board attached to my computer, so I can just write code as usual and then move the source on the board and compile there (or do everything on my machine and just send the compiled program to the board...still experimenting here); but there will be some cases where I will be on the go, and would just power the board and work on it without a computer (I have ordered a lcd cape for this purpose). VI is fine for simple code, but if you gotta code something more demanding, using VI would be a real pain, so I am trying to achieve productivity without burn my patience :) In the end, I would like to have a better editor than VI, and also would love to use an IDE instead than just using text editors without code completion, breakpoints, step by step instructions and so on...so I thought that cloud9 may work, since I just need to run the browser directly on the BeagleBone and I can code and compile on the go without a computer. Is this possible? Is there another way to accomplish what I need? I am pretty sure that if I install on the Angstrom release Eclipse, and try to use it; the board will just be too slow to run it, Thanks in advance for any pointer! -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
And this is the video that I was mentioning earlier: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFv_-ykLppo Setup of Eclipse for the BB (but it apply also to the BBB). The whole channel is a really great and educational site; all that I know about the BB is thanks to this guy. On Thursday, March 6, 2014 11:47:19 PM UTC-8, Mickae1 wrote: Can we stop this discussion ? And to make everyone happy, there is eclipse + vim = http://eclim.org Micka, On Mar 7, 2014 7:04 AM, Alexander Holler hol...@ahsoftware.dejavascript: wrote: Am 06.03.2014 20:54, schrieb Karl Longen: I have seen few people using Memacs, but it was a rarity, and limited to few old engineers. The world is not only like you see it; the fact that you have certain experiences is not a considerable proof to say this is how it is everywhere. There are 6M of people on this planet, in case you didn't realize it. Err, you made the obvious wrong statement that no one uses vi(m) for any large and/or serious project. So you have to ask yourself who is the the narrpw-minded one and who has to learn a bit more about reality. Anyway, it's getting boring. On Thursday, March 6, 2014 2:05:58 AM UTC-8, Alexander Holler wrote: Am 06.03.2014 00:14, schrieb Karl Longen: I don't see anything wrong.in this world nothing is wrong (other than the attitude), there is what is right for someone and what is right for most of the people. In 15 years working as programmer, I have NEVER experienced a single developer using VI for anything other than modify server side files (either config, daemons, apache config files), or to create quick shell script to automate some process. Hmm, I wonder what you've did in 15 years. You even didn't know that vim has code coloring since a long time but then you say nobody uses vim. Alexander Holler -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
I.D.E == integrated development environment. Technically, any well featured text editor could do these same duties. Isnt bloodsheds DevC++ opensource ? Rewrite to use linaro's armhf toolchain . . . or make it configurable like Code::Blocks. Hell write your own for that matter.There is another similar ( but better looking ) C/C++ IDE out now. PellesC. I used to like bloodsheds IDE myself years ago, but prefer PellesC on the Windows desktop now days.However for cross platform developement ( cross arch ) PellesC is not configurable. At least not the last time I checked. Also, someone with 15 years development experience should know that there are many developers that use VIM. Most Unix / Linux developers I know prefer VIM. Hell as primarily a Windows developer for the last 18 years. Even I like the way it looks in appearance( or can be made to look ). *Visual Studio* Pro's: Excellent layout, very good code completion, excellent debug error reporting( honestly when setup correctly is very hard for other options to even match ), and a definition search feature that no other IDE seems to have either. Con's: With the latest version, the IDE has become very bloated. Many of the features mentioned above can require extensive setup outside of using Microsoft's cl.exe. That means any custom compiler / toolchain option. So for instance any version of gcc would have to be setup using a makefile project, and batch scripting / perl scripting for correct debug information, and proper / wanted compiler options. Or would require a plugin written using one of the professional or higher versions. Also is not cross platform. *Code::Blocks* Pro's: Highly configurable, you can choose which toolchain / options you wish to use( custom if need be ). Essentially can be made to use any gcc / g++ type compiler. Is opensource, and is free( as in beer ). Has a very nice base project creation tool. Allowing the user to create projects from scratch which can then be used as project profiles in later projects. A very useful feature. Cross platform. Binaries for Windows, Linux, and I do believe OSX as well. Con's: Some feature can be buggy or do not seem to work correctly. For the most part from my own experience this just means the debugger would not work correctly for me. Granted I was using a specialized toolchain for the MSP430 MCU's. Also as a personal preference, Code::Blocks while very capable as an IDE, just does not seem to be as polished as Visual Studio, or even Eclipse. This means in appearance as well as usability. Granted, considering the price, there is no real reason to complain. Again a I mentioned in a previous post. I Personally use Code:Blocks for project management / binary compiling. For editing source code I prefer to use sublime text. My reasons are simple. 1) Code::Blocks is very good at project management. 2) Code::Blocks can be made to use just about any opensource toolchain. 3) Code:Block is less than appealing visually for me personally ( read: code editor ). 4) Sublime Text has very attractive dark themes that is very easy one the eyes, 5) Sublime Text has *many* attractive features including a fairly intuitive addon manager. 6) Sublime text has many, many addons for many, many programming languages. 7) Sublime text is highly configurable / customizable as well. On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:16 AM, Karl Longen 2frikkincra...@gmail.comwrote: And this is the video that I was mentioning earlier: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFv_-ykLppo Setup of Eclipse for the BB (but it apply also to the BBB). The whole channel is a really great and educational site; all that I know about the BB is thanks to this guy. On Thursday, March 6, 2014 11:47:19 PM UTC-8, Mickae1 wrote: Can we stop this discussion ? And to make everyone happy, there is eclipse + vim = http://eclim.org Micka, On Mar 7, 2014 7:04 AM, Alexander Holler hol...@ahsoftware.de wrote: Am 06.03.2014 20:54, schrieb Karl Longen: I have seen few people using Memacs, but it was a rarity, and limited to few old engineers. The world is not only like you see it; the fact that you have certain experiences is not a considerable proof to say this is how it is everywhere. There are 6M of people on this planet, in case you didn't realize it. Err, you made the obvious wrong statement that no one uses vi(m) for any large and/or serious project. So you have to ask yourself who is the the narrpw-minded one and who has to learn a bit more about reality. Anyway, it's getting boring. On Thursday, March 6, 2014 2:05:58 AM UTC-8, Alexander Holler wrote: Am 06.03.2014 00:14, schrieb Karl Longen: I don't see anything wrong.in this world nothing is wrong (other than the attitude), there is what is right for someone and what is right for most of the people. In 15 years working as programmer, I have NEVER experienced a single developer using VI for anything other than modify server side files
Re: [beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
William; to be an IDE it needs a debugger, compiler and linkerif you can do that just with VI, I will personally work 80 hours a day and donate all my salary to you for the rest of my life :) The problem is not if Dev-C++ is open source or not...80% of the code probably is not even reusable (I don't really have the will nor the time to check it), and the rest is just the text editor probably; the problem thou is simple: it would be too heavy to run on the BB. Write my own? Either you have too much free time or I have a very busy life :) How many people do you know that build their own IDE, just because ? Reinventing the wheel is one of the biggest mistake that most of the novice programmers do...you are not writing code that someone else already wrote, because makes no sense...if there is a library you extend it or take part of it to customize it (if the license allow you to do so), for your needs; altho if the person that wrote the library is a good architect, he/she made the API as generic as possible, and probably with overloading where needed. Please leave out the VI topic, let's not start all over again with this nonsense. BTW the topic is an IDE that runs on the Beaglebonethanks for your insight about these software (I would go code:blocks for sure over VS...gb and gb of stuff that you may never use, just over bloating the software); it may help someone that is allergic to Eclipse. The original question started with that request, unless I am missing something. On Friday, March 7, 2014 8:47:11 PM UTC-8, William Hermans wrote: I.D.E == integrated development environment. Technically, any well featured text editor could do these same duties. Isnt bloodsheds DevC++ opensource ? Rewrite to use linaro's armhf toolchain . . . or make it configurable like Code::Blocks. Hell write your own for that matter.There is another similar ( but better looking ) C/C++ IDE out now. PellesC. I used to like bloodsheds IDE myself years ago, but prefer PellesC on the Windows desktop now days.However for cross platform developement ( cross arch ) PellesC is not configurable. At least not the last time I checked. Also, someone with 15 years development experience should know that there are many developers that use VIM. Most Unix / Linux developers I know prefer VIM. Hell as primarily a Windows developer for the last 18 years. Even I like the way it looks in appearance( or can be made to look ). *Visual Studio* Pro's: Excellent layout, very good code completion, excellent debug error reporting( honestly when setup correctly is very hard for other options to even match ), and a definition search feature that no other IDE seems to have either. Con's: With the latest version, the IDE has become very bloated. Many of the features mentioned above can require extensive setup outside of using Microsoft's cl.exe. That means any custom compiler / toolchain option. So for instance any version of gcc would have to be setup using a makefile project, and batch scripting / perl scripting for correct debug information, and proper / wanted compiler options. Or would require a plugin written using one of the professional or higher versions. Also is not cross platform. *Code::Blocks* Pro's: Highly configurable, you can choose which toolchain / options you wish to use( custom if need be ). Essentially can be made to use any gcc / g++ type compiler. Is opensource, and is free( as in beer ). Has a very nice base project creation tool. Allowing the user to create projects from scratch which can then be used as project profiles in later projects. A very useful feature. Cross platform. Binaries for Windows, Linux, and I do believe OSX as well. Con's: Some feature can be buggy or do not seem to work correctly. For the most part from my own experience this just means the debugger would not work correctly for me. Granted I was using a specialized toolchain for the MSP430 MCU's. Also as a personal preference, Code::Blocks while very capable as an IDE, just does not seem to be as polished as Visual Studio, or even Eclipse. This means in appearance as well as usability. Granted, considering the price, there is no real reason to complain. Again a I mentioned in a previous post. I Personally use Code:Blocks for project management / binary compiling. For editing source code I prefer to use sublime text. My reasons are simple. 1) Code::Blocks is very good at project management. 2) Code::Blocks can be made to use just about any opensource toolchain. 3) Code:Block is less than appealing visually for me personally ( read: code editor ). 4) Sublime Text has very attractive dark themes that is very easy one the eyes, 5) Sublime Text has *many* attractive features including a fairly intuitive addon manager. 6) Sublime text has many, many addons for many, many programming languages. 7) Sublime text is highly configurable /
Re: [beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
Personally I am allergic to anything that requires JRE. Hence I refuse to use Eclipse. There are text editors out there that are configurable to the point where you can configure external binaries to run on the press of a hotkey. Since the gcc toolchain consists of all cmd line tools, you do not need to output directly in the editor its self. You could however always redirect stdout / stderr if you so wished. Anyway, watch these sometime. https://tutsplus.com/course/improve-workflow-in-sublime-text-2/ Specifically Vintage mode. Which is essentially VIM inside the text editor. The text editor can also execute external binaries, and is highly configurable / customizable. Anyway, this is about as close to VI / VIM in an IDE you're going to get I suppose. As it happens I have started to write something which resembled a very simplistic IDE with no built in text editor. Instead of finishing it however, I instead invested some time learning how Code::Blocks works, and just use GDB via the command line. Personally, I think it is folly to even consider running an IDE directly on the BBB. So a moot point. On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Karl Longen 2frikkincra...@gmail.comwrote: William; to be an IDE it needs a debugger, compiler and linkerif you can do that just with VI, I will personally work 80 hours a day and donate all my salary to you for the rest of my life :) The problem is not if Dev-C++ is open source or not...80% of the code probably is not even reusable (I don't really have the will nor the time to check it), and the rest is just the text editor probably; the problem thou is simple: it would be too heavy to run on the BB. Write my own? Either you have too much free time or I have a very busy life :) How many people do you know that build their own IDE, just because ? Reinventing the wheel is one of the biggest mistake that most of the novice programmers do...you are not writing code that someone else already wrote, because makes no sense...if there is a library you extend it or take part of it to customize it (if the license allow you to do so), for your needs; altho if the person that wrote the library is a good architect, he/she made the API as generic as possible, and probably with overloading where needed. Please leave out the VI topic, let's not start all over again with this nonsense. BTW the topic is an IDE that runs on the Beaglebonethanks for your insight about these software (I would go code:blocks for sure over VS...gb and gb of stuff that you may never use, just over bloating the software); it may help someone that is allergic to Eclipse. The original question started with that request, unless I am missing something. On Friday, March 7, 2014 8:47:11 PM UTC-8, William Hermans wrote: I.D.E == integrated development environment. Technically, any well featured text editor could do these same duties. Isnt bloodsheds DevC++ opensource ? Rewrite to use linaro's armhf toolchain . . . or make it configurable like Code::Blocks. Hell write your own for that matter.There is another similar ( but better looking ) C/C++ IDE out now. PellesC. I used to like bloodsheds IDE myself years ago, but prefer PellesC on the Windows desktop now days.However for cross platform developement ( cross arch ) PellesC is not configurable. At least not the last time I checked. Also, someone with 15 years development experience should know that there are many developers that use VIM. Most Unix / Linux developers I know prefer VIM. Hell as primarily a Windows developer for the last 18 years. Even I like the way it looks in appearance( or can be made to look ). *Visual Studio* Pro's: Excellent layout, very good code completion, excellent debug error reporting( honestly when setup correctly is very hard for other options to even match ), and a definition search feature that no other IDE seems to have either. Con's: With the latest version, the IDE has become very bloated. Many of the features mentioned above can require extensive setup outside of using Microsoft's cl.exe. That means any custom compiler / toolchain option. So for instance any version of gcc would have to be setup using a makefile project, and batch scripting / perl scripting for correct debug information, and proper / wanted compiler options. Or would require a plugin written using one of the professional or higher versions. Also is not cross platform. *Code::Blocks* Pro's: Highly configurable, you can choose which toolchain / options you wish to use( custom if need be ). Essentially can be made to use any gcc / g++ type compiler. Is opensource, and is free( as in beer ). Has a very nice base project creation tool. Allowing the user to create projects from scratch which can then be used as project profiles in later projects. A very useful feature. Cross platform. Binaries for Windows, Linux, and I do believe OSX as well. Con's: Some feature can be buggy or do not
Re: [beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
Am 06.03.2014 00:14, schrieb Karl Longen: I don't see anything wrong.in this world nothing is wrong (other than the attitude), there is what is right for someone and what is right for most of the people. In 15 years working as programmer, I have NEVER experienced a single developer using VI for anything other than modify server side files (either config, daemons, apache config files), or to create quick shell script to automate some process. Hmm, I wonder what you've did in 15 years. You even didn't know that vim has code coloring since a long time but then you say nobody uses vim. Alexander Holler -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
Am 06.03.2014 11:43, schrieb Micka: This kind of topic will never stop can we stop this discussion ? Every one has his favorite tools + we don't develop together which means that this discussion is useless. Not if someone says he knows it all and makes obvious false statements. -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
Am 06.03.2014 00:05, schrieb Karl Longen: Exactly, that was in the pastthis is 2014; we don't necessarily need to use things from the past, when there is something else new that perform better And in 2016 you don't have a device anymore where your, what *you* declare as IDE, still will run on. Alexander Holler -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
What did I do in 15 years? Participated in the released 5 Windows games, 4 applications for Windows and Mac, 2 for iOS. Changed 4 companies, all of them are top tier company in USA, where VI is not used at all. Then of course, I may live in a different world from yours. I didn't even bother checking color coding for Vim, because as mentioned earlier, I don't need to use it for something that is not meant to; when I have something better, newer, faster, easier. Same goes for the places where I used to work: people do not use it. I have seen few people using Memacs, but it was a rarity, and limited to few old engineers. The world is not only like you see it; the fact that you have certain experiences is not a considerable proof to say this is how it is everywhere. There are 6M of people on this planet, in case you didn't realize it. On Thursday, March 6, 2014 2:05:58 AM UTC-8, Alexander Holler wrote: Am 06.03.2014 00:14, schrieb Karl Longen: I don't see anything wrong.in this world nothing is wrong (other than the attitude), there is what is right for someone and what is right for most of the people. In 15 years working as programmer, I have NEVER experienced a single developer using VI for anything other than modify server side files (either config, daemons, apache config files), or to create quick shell script to automate some process. Hmm, I wonder what you've did in 15 years. You even didn't know that vim has code coloring since a long time but then you say nobody uses vim. Alexander Holler -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
I was merely pointing out that the original topic is asking for an IDE and not a text editor to write applications; and that's the line that I am taking in my replies. I never syndicated what a person should or should not use; just brought my personal experience and described my case. If someone wants to use notepad, Vi, Emacs or his wall to write code, is their problem. I simply said that the point is an IDE, and this whole thing of Vim with color coding and such started. On Thursday, March 6, 2014 2:43:19 AM UTC-8, Mickae1 wrote: This kind of topic will never stop can we stop this discussion ? Every one has his favorite tools + we don't develop together which means that this discussion is useless. Micka, On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Alexander Holler hol...@ahsoftware.dejavascript: wrote: Am 06.03.2014 00:14, schrieb Karl Longen: I don't see anything wrong.in this world nothing is wrong (other than the attitude), there is what is right for someone and what is right for most of the people. In 15 years working as programmer, I have NEVER experienced a single developer using VI for anything other than modify server side files (either config, daemons, apache config files), or to create quick shell script to automate some process. Hmm, I wonder what you've did in 15 years. You even didn't know that vim has code coloring since a long time but then you say nobody uses vim. Alexander Holler -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
Amiga is still alive; was made in 1985; has a great OS, which many still use for simple tasks (and many copied)as you can see old hardware and software survive if there are people using them, but this won't make them the best just because they are still in use. Same goes for Vi, Vim, Sed, Awk and another hundred of utilities and applications. What I declare as IDE is the definition of it; pretty simple and clear; if you want to use something and call it IDE, it is your business; like using a painting brush to mop he floor. The point was never you can't do it, but there is something more functional and productive. Now let's bring back coal, it is still around, so we should use it to retrofit our cars. On Thursday, March 6, 2014 4:22:06 AM UTC-8, Alexander Holler wrote: Am 06.03.2014 00:05, schrieb Karl Longen: Exactly, that was in the pastthis is 2014; we don't necessarily need to use things from the past, when there is something else new that perform better And in 2016 you don't have a device anymore where your, what *you* declare as IDE, still will run on. Alexander Holler -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
Am 06.03.2014 20:54, schrieb Karl Longen: I have seen few people using Memacs, but it was a rarity, and limited to few old engineers. The world is not only like you see it; the fact that you have certain experiences is not a considerable proof to say this is how it is everywhere. There are 6M of people on this planet, in case you didn't realize it. Err, you made the obvious wrong statement that no one uses vi(m) for any large and/or serious project. So you have to ask yourself who is the the narrpw-minded one and who has to learn a bit more about reality. Anyway, it's getting boring. On Thursday, March 6, 2014 2:05:58 AM UTC-8, Alexander Holler wrote: Am 06.03.2014 00:14, schrieb Karl Longen: I don't see anything wrong.in this world nothing is wrong (other than the attitude), there is what is right for someone and what is right for most of the people. In 15 years working as programmer, I have NEVER experienced a single developer using VI for anything other than modify server side files (either config, daemons, apache config files), or to create quick shell script to automate some process. Hmm, I wonder what you've did in 15 years. You even didn't know that vim has code coloring since a long time but then you say nobody uses vim. Alexander Holler -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
Can we stop this discussion ? And to make everyone happy, there is eclipse + vim = http://eclim.org Micka, On Mar 7, 2014 7:04 AM, Alexander Holler hol...@ahsoftware.de wrote: Am 06.03.2014 20:54, schrieb Karl Longen: I have seen few people using Memacs, but it was a rarity, and limited to few old engineers. The world is not only like you see it; the fact that you have certain experiences is not a considerable proof to say this is how it is everywhere. There are 6M of people on this planet, in case you didn't realize it. Err, you made the obvious wrong statement that no one uses vi(m) for any large and/or serious project. So you have to ask yourself who is the the narrpw-minded one and who has to learn a bit more about reality. Anyway, it's getting boring. On Thursday, March 6, 2014 2:05:58 AM UTC-8, Alexander Holler wrote: Am 06.03.2014 00:14, schrieb Karl Longen: I don't see anything wrong.in this world nothing is wrong (other than the attitude), there is what is right for someone and what is right for most of the people. In 15 years working as programmer, I have NEVER experienced a single developer using VI for anything other than modify server side files (either config, daemons, apache config files), or to create quick shell script to automate some process. Hmm, I wonder what you've did in 15 years. You even didn't know that vim has code coloring since a long time but then you say nobody uses vim. Alexander Holler -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
Am 05.03.2014 07:52, schrieb William Hermans: There is no reason why you can not use an IDE / Editor on a PC and then use SCP, SSH or whatever else to move the source over then compile on the BBB. However, there is a reason why most people choose to cross compile. Anything sizable will take forever to compile directly on the BBB. IMHO, the most easy way is to crosscompile and share a directory via NFS with the beagleboard. This way you can test without copying. re, wh On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Karl Longen 2frikkincra...@gmail.comwrote: Sadly there are no options to code directly on the BB; unless you run the full desktop environment on a tv or monitor. In which case you may be able to use a couple of lightweight text editors...eclipse won't run on Angstrom decently; it would take forever to use it honestly. I hope that someone will make something simple, like Cloud9 but with C++ support, so you have a full IDE without having to cross compile. The whole point of having a board that run a full OS is to have a full IDE to write code, after all. This is not an Ipad/Droid device in the end :) On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 3:10:45 PM UTC-8, pco...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all I have a brand new beaglebone black and I'm also trying to install an IDE directly in Angstrom so I can do all the programming from within the board. I don't want to use a cross compiler, do you know of any package that can do this? Thanks a lot!! -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
Karl Longen 2frikkincra...@gmail.com wrote: [-- text/plain, encoding 7bit, charset: UTF-8, 35 lines --] Sadly there are no options to code directly on the BB; unless you run the full desktop environment on a tv or monitor. Ay? You can do it all from the command line surely, there's gcc and g++ there and make. There's also vi for editing your files. I personally find that IDEs just get in the way. Open multiple ssh connections to the BBB, run vi in one of them, make in another and do testing in a third - the best IDE there is. -- Chris Green · -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
He is asking to code via IDE directly in Armstrong...G++ and the other command line solutions do not fit the IDE requirement. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 4:15:11 AM UTC-8, c...@isbd.net wrote: Karl Longen 2frikki...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: [-- text/plain, encoding 7bit, charset: UTF-8, 35 lines --] Sadly there are no options to code directly on the BB; unless you run the full desktop environment on a tv or monitor. Ay? You can do it all from the command line surely, there's gcc and g++ there and make. There's also vi for editing your files. I personally find that IDEs just get in the way. Open multiple ssh connections to the BBB, run vi in one of them, make in another and do testing in a third - the best IDE there is. -- Chris Green · -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
BTW you have never tried to code pages and pages using just VI probably Any person in their right state of mind would not use VI, unless you are writing short programs (like shell script), or very simple applications. Renounce to auto correction, color syntax, auto completion, and a ton more of functionalities, when you are coding millions of lines, is not different from running win 3.1 on a modern computer :) As much as I love terminal, there are things that are not feasible without a good text editor with plenty of functions; without even mentioning the pros of a real IDE, when you need to debug and such. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 4:15:11 AM UTC-8, c...@isbd.net wrote: Karl Longen 2frikki...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: [-- text/plain, encoding 7bit, charset: UTF-8, 35 lines --] Sadly there are no options to code directly on the BB; unless you run the full desktop environment on a tv or monitor. Ay? You can do it all from the command line surely, there's gcc and g++ there and make. There's also vi for editing your files. I personally find that IDEs just get in the way. Open multiple ssh connections to the BBB, run vi in one of them, make in another and do testing in a third - the best IDE there is. -- Chris Green · -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
Am 05.03.2014 13:25, schrieb Karl Longen: He is asking to code via IDE directly in Armstrong...G++ and the other command line solutions do not fit the IDE requirement. he did not specify what IDE could simply use emacs. re, wh On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 4:15:11 AM UTC-8, c...@isbd.net wrote: Karl Longen 2frikki...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: [-- text/plain, encoding 7bit, charset: UTF-8, 35 lines --] Sadly there are no options to code directly on the BB; unless you run the full desktop environment on a tv or monitor. Ay? You can do it all from the command line surely, there's gcc and g++ there and make. There's also vi for editing your files. I personally find that IDEs just get in the way. Open multiple ssh connections to the BBB, run vi in one of them, make in another and do testing in a third - the best IDE there is. -- Chris Green · -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
walter harms wha...@bfs.de wrote: Am 05.03.2014 13:25, schrieb Karl Longen: He is asking to code via IDE directly in Armstrong...G++ and the other command line solutions do not fit the IDE requirement. he did not specify what IDE could simply use emacs. Exactly! :-) -- Chris Green · -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
Karl Longen 2frikkincra...@gmail.com wrote: BTW you have never tried to code pages and pages using just VI probably I have used it since some time in the mid 1980s, so I am fairly familiar with it - and it's available on *every* platform I program on which is a big advantage. (Not to mention that I use it for composing E-Mail, Usenet messages, etc.) Any person in their right state of mind would not use VI, unless you are writing short programs (like shell script), or very simple applications. Renounce to auto correction, color syntax, auto completion, and a ton more of functionalities, when you are coding millions of lines, is not Er, have you looked at recent versions of vi! :-) different from running win 3.1 on a modern computer :) As much as I love terminal, there are things that are not feasible without a good text editor with plenty of functions; without even mentioning the pros of a real IDE, when you need to debug and such. As I said, editor in one window, make in the next, testing in the next (i.e. the debugger). I'm semi-retired now but I used to work on systems with several million lines of code, everyone used either EMACS or vi. -- Chris Green · -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
VI ? Really ? You should start using Eclipse or visual studio they provide tons of function that vi don't provide. eclipse/visualstudio = with a few click you configure your workspace, you build your project, you deploy your project, your run/debug your project . VI = with tons of hours you configure your workspace I don't have time to argue with it, it's just a simple matter of accepting the evolution .. Micka, On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 4:55 PM, c...@isbd.net wrote: Karl Longen 2frikkincra...@gmail.com wrote: BTW you have never tried to code pages and pages using just VI probably I have used it since some time in the mid 1980s, so I am fairly familiar with it - and it's available on *every* platform I program on which is a big advantage. (Not to mention that I use it for composing E-Mail, Usenet messages, etc.) Any person in their right state of mind would not use VI, unless you are writing short programs (like shell script), or very simple applications. Renounce to auto correction, color syntax, auto completion, and a ton more of functionalities, when you are coding millions of lines, is not Er, have you looked at recent versions of vi! :-) different from running win 3.1 on a modern computer :) As much as I love terminal, there are things that are not feasible without a good text editor with plenty of functions; without even mentioning the pros of a real IDE, when you need to debug and such. As I said, editor in one window, make in the next, testing in the next (i.e. the debugger). I'm semi-retired now but I used to work on systems with several million lines of code, everyone used either EMACS or vi. -- Chris Green · -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
Am 05.03.2014 13:30, schrieb Karl Longen: BTW you have never tried to code pages and pages using just VI probably Any person in their right state of mind would not use VI, unless you are writing short programs (like shell script), or very simple applications. That's just plain wrong and doesn't reflect reality. Renounce to auto correction, color syntax, auto completion, and a ton more of functionalities, when you are coding millions of lines, is not different from running win 3.1 on a modern computer :) If you really need those things, vim and emacs are offering such stuff too. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 4:15:11 AM UTC-8, c...@isbd.net wrote: Open multiple ssh connections to the BBB, run vi in one of them, make in another and do testing in a third - the best IDE there is. Try esc:make in vim. Regards, Alexander Holler -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
Cross compiling is really as simple as downloading a Linaro toolchain, and just setting up the toolchain binary paths in an IDE. Even on Windows. Then on Windows you can use Visual Studio, Eclipse, Code:Blocks, or even use the toolchain directly via comandline, with an editor like notepad++, or Sublime text. Notepad is even possible, but I think that any reasonable developer will know that notepad is not really an option. Personally, I use Code:Blocks for project management, and cross compiling( Via Linaro GCC). Sublime text as my main editor, and a directory shared via Samba, which is them maped as a network drive in Windows. On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Alexander Holler hol...@ahsoftware.dewrote: Am 05.03.2014 13:30, schrieb Karl Longen: BTW you have never tried to code pages and pages using just VI probably Any person in their right state of mind would not use VI, unless you are writing short programs (like shell script), or very simple applications. That's just plain wrong and doesn't reflect reality. Renounce to auto correction, color syntax, auto completion, and a ton more of functionalities, when you are coding millions of lines, is not different from running win 3.1 on a modern computer :) If you really need those things, vim and emacs are offering such stuff too. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 4:15:11 AM UTC-8, c...@isbd.net wrote: Open multiple ssh connections to the BBB, run vi in one of them, make in another and do testing in a third - the best IDE there is. Try esc:make in vim. Regards, Alexander Holler -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
Emacs is not an IDE, but a text editor. IDE include a source code (text) editor, a compiler, a linker and a debugger Eclipse, Netbeans, Mono development, Visual studio; these are IDE I second the use of Emacs, it is great to write code, but you still need to use a compiler, linker and debugger to write executables on the BB On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 4:54:22 AM UTC-8, wharms wrote: Am 05.03.2014 13:25, schrieb Karl Longen: He is asking to code via IDE directly in Armstrong...G++ and the other command line solutions do not fit the IDE requirement. he did not specify what IDE could simply use emacs. re, wh On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 4:15:11 AM UTC-8, c...@isbd.net wrote: Karl Longen 2frikki...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: [-- text/plain, encoding 7bit, charset: UTF-8, 35 lines --] Sadly there are no options to code directly on the BB; unless you run the full desktop environment on a tv or monitor. Ay? You can do it all from the command line surely, there's gcc and g++ there and make. There's also vi for editing your files. I personally find that IDEs just get in the way. Open multiple ssh connections to the BBB, run vi in one of them, make in another and do testing in a third - the best IDE there is. -- Chris Green · -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
Exactly, that was in the pastthis is 2014; we don't necessarily need to use things from the past, when there is something else new that perform better Do you still drive your old carburetor car from the 70s? Do you still use an 8086, green phosphor monitor and textual OS? You may, but why would you, other than for a nostalgic/habit reason? I own an old car because I love that specific model, but I have as main car an hybrid, which is fairly new...cost less to maintain, less to own My point is not that you can't use it; just that won't make any sense, if you have better options. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 7:55:00 AM UTC-8, c...@isbd.net wrote: Karl Longen 2frikki...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: BTW you have never tried to code pages and pages using just VI probably I have used it since some time in the mid 1980s, so I am fairly familiar with it - and it's available on *every* platform I program on which is a big advantage. (Not to mention that I use it for composing E-Mail, Usenet messages, etc.) Any person in their right state of mind would not use VI, unless you are writing short programs (like shell script), or very simple applications. Renounce to auto correction, color syntax, auto completion, and a ton more of functionalities, when you are coding millions of lines, is not Er, have you looked at recent versions of vi! :-) different from running win 3.1 on a modern computer :) As much as I love terminal, there are things that are not feasible without a good text editor with plenty of functions; without even mentioning the pros of a real IDE, when you need to debug and such. As I said, editor in one window, make in the next, testing in the next (i.e. the debugger). I'm semi-retired now but I used to work on systems with several million lines of code, everyone used either EMACS or vi. -- Chris Green · -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
I don't see anything wrong.in this world nothing is wrong (other than the attitude), there is what is right for someone and what is right for most of the people. In 15 years working as programmer, I have NEVER experienced a single developer using VI for anything other than modify server side files (either config, daemons, apache config files), or to create quick shell script to automate some process. I've been in plenty of companies, where there were awesome people that had 40 years of experience, that were so kind to show me how they do their jobmost of them avoided intentionally VI when they had the chance, because they had to work with it in the past, since there was nothing else :) Strange enough, nobody loved it, while writing applications of a certain size. If someone likes it as text editor, so be it, but I would not go around saying to others that they are wrong, just because they don't see it in the same way. Conflicts are born because someone think that he/she has the right to be right, while the others are wrong. Especially in CS, there is more than a way to do anything, so the right or wrong is really a matter of personal opinion. Then again: Emacs and VI are text editors, not Integrated Development Environments; for the same reason that a VW beetle with a Porsche engine is not a Porsche, a text editor with IDE functionalities is not an IDEit can be used for that purpose, but there are a ton of other easier and more reliable alternatives; which means that the use of this or that method is purely discretional and based on personal preferences. The original topic was is there an IDE for the BB, to avoid cross compile?, unless I am mistaken. Have a good day On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 8:14:14 AM UTC-8, Alexander Holler wrote: Am 05.03.2014 13:30, schrieb Karl Longen: BTW you have never tried to code pages and pages using just VI probably Any person in their right state of mind would not use VI, unless you are writing short programs (like shell script), or very simple applications. That's just plain wrong and doesn't reflect reality. Renounce to auto correction, color syntax, auto completion, and a ton more of functionalities, when you are coding millions of lines, is not different from running win 3.1 on a modern computer :) If you really need those things, vim and emacs are offering such stuff too. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 4:15:11 AM UTC-8, c...@isbd.net wrote: Open multiple ssh connections to the BBB, run vi in one of them, make in another and do testing in a third - the best IDE there is. Try esc:make in vim. Regards, Alexander Holler -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
Did you try with Eclipse? It is multi platform, and there is a nice youtube tutorial video that show how to set it up for the BB. Quite simple to cross compile, but not possible on the BB itself; Eclipse just sit and cry if you run it on the IDE, even without loading the full desktop (tried to just start X11). On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 10:42:23 AM UTC-8, William Hermans wrote: Cross compiling is really as simple as downloading a Linaro toolchain, and just setting up the toolchain binary paths in an IDE. Even on Windows. Then on Windows you can use Visual Studio, Eclipse, Code:Blocks, or even use the toolchain directly via comandline, with an editor like notepad++, or Sublime text. Notepad is even possible, but I think that any reasonable developer will know that notepad is not really an option. Personally, I use Code:Blocks for project management, and cross compiling( Via Linaro GCC). Sublime text as my main editor, and a directory shared via Samba, which is them maped as a network drive in Windows. On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Alexander Holler hol...@ahsoftware.dejavascript: wrote: Am 05.03.2014 13:30, schrieb Karl Longen: BTW you have never tried to code pages and pages using just VI probably Any person in their right state of mind would not use VI, unless you are writing short programs (like shell script), or very simple applications. That's just plain wrong and doesn't reflect reality. Renounce to auto correction, color syntax, auto completion, and a ton more of functionalities, when you are coding millions of lines, is not different from running win 3.1 on a modern computer :) If you really need those things, vim and emacs are offering such stuff too. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 4:15:11 AM UTC-8, c...@isbd.net wrote: Open multiple ssh connections to the BBB, run vi in one of them, make in another and do testing in a third - the best IDE there is. Try esc:make in vim. Regards, Alexander Holler -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
Hi all I have a brand new beaglebone black and I'm also trying to install an IDE directly in Angstrom so I can do all the programming from within the board. I don't want to use a cross compiler, do you know of any package that can do this? Thanks a lot!! -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
Sadly there are no options to code directly on the BB; unless you run the full desktop environment on a tv or monitor. In which case you may be able to use a couple of lightweight text editors...eclipse won't run on Angstrom decently; it would take forever to use it honestly. I hope that someone will make something simple, like Cloud9 but with C++ support, so you have a full IDE without having to cross compile. The whole point of having a board that run a full OS is to have a full IDE to write code, after all. This is not an Ipad/Droid device in the end :) On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 3:10:45 PM UTC-8, pco...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all I have a brand new beaglebone black and I'm also trying to install an IDE directly in Angstrom so I can do all the programming from within the board. I don't want to use a cross compiler, do you know of any package that can do this? Thanks a lot!! -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [beagleboard] Re: Coding with C/C++ directly on Beaglebone, via IDE?
There is no reason why you can not use an IDE / Editor on a PC and then use SCP, SSH or whatever else to move the source over then compile on the BBB. However, there is a reason why most people choose to cross compile. Anything sizable will take forever to compile directly on the BBB. On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Karl Longen 2frikkincra...@gmail.comwrote: Sadly there are no options to code directly on the BB; unless you run the full desktop environment on a tv or monitor. In which case you may be able to use a couple of lightweight text editors...eclipse won't run on Angstrom decently; it would take forever to use it honestly. I hope that someone will make something simple, like Cloud9 but with C++ support, so you have a full IDE without having to cross compile. The whole point of having a board that run a full OS is to have a full IDE to write code, after all. This is not an Ipad/Droid device in the end :) On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 3:10:45 PM UTC-8, pco...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all I have a brand new beaglebone black and I'm also trying to install an IDE directly in Angstrom so I can do all the programming from within the board. I don't want to use a cross compiler, do you know of any package that can do this? Thanks a lot!! -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BeagleBoard group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
