RE: Random thoughts, Stevie and BEHAF

[mzebley]

Actually, I'm working on that.  When Donna wrote about Hugo's 
difficulties, I remembered an apparatus that our local referral 
surgeon (who does a lot of neck and back surgeries) used for his 
neuro patients.  I've mentioned it to Donna, and am trying to get 
more info on it.  Right now, he and I are playing phone tag, but 
hopefully I'll have better luck on Monday.  I have at least 
determined that they made it themselves, so I may be able to get 
plans or something of the sort.  If so, this info will be available not 
only for Hugo, but for any other berner in similar straits.

Melissa

On 31 Jan 03, at 10:43, Pat Long wrote:

> Andrea,
> 
> You raise an excellent idea, but maybe it should be phrased a bit
> differently. Perhaps BEHAF could help finance a set of wheels. We
> could set up a special friends fund for Hugo!
> 
> The people who make up BEHAF don't have any resources that we don't
> have, so it wouldn't be up to them to locate specialized care or
> equipment. But, if you can find some wheels that Hugo could use, or if
> someone else knows where those can be acquired - we could sure find a
> way for all of us to donate so that BEHAF can fund the purchase!
> 
> Pat Long, a babysat shedding Gabby (& non-shedding Luther)
> Berwyn PA
> 
> 
> 
> 
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A very funny website

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Stevie's Progress

[Karen McFarlane]

Dear List,
Well it is Friday night and I had to say good bye to my sister today.
Unfortunately she had to fly back home. I will miss her so much :(  Stevie's
spirits seem a bit low today, but he might have just absorbed that from me
as I was sad over my sister's leaving. Physically he is about the same,
still trying to get around but he still requires a fair amount of
assistance. It was suggested to me to try Bach's flower remedy for his mood.
I would just like to hear from any other listers who have had any experience
with this. The baby food ideas that we received were a blessing. He
absolutely adores it. We thin it out a bit with some warm homemade broth and
he just lays with me holding the bowl under his chin and laps it up until it
is gone. It is going to be an absolute shock to him when I start expecting
him to actually eat DOG FOOD!! Oh my!! His ear is giving him a fair amount
of problems and he is still shaking his head alot. If this does not subside
then I will call and/or bring him to the vet tomorrow and see what else can
be done for him. His hair continues to come out quite profusely, I hope that
it stops soon. They said that it  is trauma induced and should not be a
problem later on. I hope not, he had such a gorgeous coat since we started
giving him Omega 3 fatty acids in early December. (Thanks to this list!!) I
will update over the weekend. Love to All.
Karen and Stevie
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Re: FW: Idea for Oprah?

[Liz Caldwell]

How about Berner rescue? Between the regional clubs' rescue efforts, Doug
Smith's rehoming of older Berners and BARC, I think there would be a lot of
feel-good potential, along with the potential for a lot of education.

Just a thought...

Liz Caldwell, Lawrence, KS
with BARC Beauty Sophia, Precious Pyr Faith, and crazy cat Mascot

At 11:02 AM -0600 1/31/03, Dawn Kjeldsen wrote:
>I have a friend who has been a producer at the Oprah Winfrey Show for years.
>Occasionally she asks if I have any story ideas, and I could mention the
>puppy mill/auction angle to her -- however I've pitched other animal-related
>stories to her in the past to no avail. Oftentimes, the producers are given
>guidelines to the shows they need to develop (i.e. one time she was looking
>for "post 9-11 feel good" stories, etc.), so there's a chance if they are
>looking for animal stories in the near future, this could get picked up.
>
>If you want to send me details on the pitch you have in mind, I would be
>happy to pass it along to my friend.
>
>Dawn Freeland
>Houston, TX
>Devoted friend to Murphy (14-month old Berner)
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 12:16 AM
>To: Willem Wijnberg
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Idea for Oprah?
>
>
>Someone has just asked me if it would be possible to present an idea to
>Oprah about doing a show on the puppy mills and auctions. I know that people
>have raised this idea in the past (since Oprah has a few Golden Retrievers,
>it's possible she would have some interest in the merits of the idea), I
>wondered how much luck anyone has had in getting this across to the show
>producers? Any ideas?
>
>Pat Long (& Luther)
>Berwyn PA
>
>
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Re: BERNER-L digest 4250

[Liz Caldwell]

At 8:54 AM -0500 1/31/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I am new to your chating...can't wait to hear from others. I have a 3
>year old Male, he is the BEST boy, a real sweetie. We live in a northern
>suburb of Chicago.

My mother, in Winnetka, mentioned she had seen a Berner in the bank there a
few months ago -- but she didn't think to get his vital info. 

I have been amazed as m willingness to do U-turns and the like when I spot
a Berner... and every Berner owner I've known is absolutely in love with
their dogs.

>A friend of mine from North Dakota is looking for a breeder out there or
>there abouts, does anyone have any info for me?

Have them get in touch with the regional club, information is at


The best way to get to know breeders and for them to get to know you is
through participation -- and it is a wonderful community to be a part of!

Liz Caldwell, Lawrence, KS
with BARC Beauty Sophia, Precious Pyr Faith, and crazy cat Mascot

agility

[Mary-Ann Bowman]

There is a lot that an eight month old can do in agility, but I would not
jump even 12 inches with a puppy. There are so many other things to learn in
agility that there is no rush to jump more than a few inches. Once the
growth plates close, jump training can begin in earnest.

Halo is three months old. Today she had a private agility lesson and we
worked on foot placement using a ladder and  an obstacle course of various
cardboard tubes and jump poles, and contacts using a target. We also placed
her on the end of the teeter and gave her little rides while she ate treats
so that she gets used to motion. As I said, there is so much that a puppy
can learn in agility (and obedience) while they are growing up that jumping
does not need to be rushed. In addition to obedience and agility, Halo is
also tracking --  puppies are smart, willing workers if we give them fun and
interesting jobs :)

Mary-Ann Bowman
Utah
U-CD Emma CDX, DD, CGC, retired
Abra, VCD1 (NA, NAJ, TD, CD), CDX, OA, DD, CGC
Maize, NA, TD, DD, CD, CGC
Halo -- in training

Re: (no subject)

[Claudia Brydon]

Denise, Deuce and all,
I started training Boomer at about 12 weeks.  Of course I didn't have
him jump or do the dangerous stuff at that age.  But the earlier you expose
to the baby teeter, tunnel, ladder on the ground (to teach him where his
feet are), etc., the easier it is later.
Boomer went to the big show in Cleveland in December in the preferred
classes so he didn't have to jump full height.  He wasn't quit 19 months old
and, other than knocking off a bar here and there (He's still learning how
to jump.  It's hard for a big dog to know where to gather himself between
jumps so that the take-off is in the right place.), he performed beautifully
and loved every minute of it.
Go ahead and get your 8 mo. old started.  Just don't jump him over 12
inches at first.  By the end of the class you might be able to do 16 if it's
elbow height or below.  Don't have him go over the full height A-frame for a
while either.  Coming down can be hard.  And make sure he's steady before
trying the dog walk very high.  You don't want him to fall off and hurt
himself.  Hopefully these are safeguards that your trainer will have built
into the beginner class.


Claudia Brydon in NW PA
Barney OA NAJ (Aussie)
Boomer (Bernese Mountain Dog)
Mo (Gordon Setter Granddog)


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To:
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eMt.DogMalingList>
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 4:02 PM
Subject: (no subject)


> Hi Everyone-  I have an 8 mo old Berner who is quite smart.  We would like
to
> start training him for agility.  Have found a trainer who gives an 8 week
> course for this. My question is this- is he too young to start training
for
> this?  I wouldn't want to do anything to harm him - I know he has alot of
> growing to do and wouldn't want to jeopardize his hips or legs. Anyone
have
> any advice for me?  Love listening to all of your suggestions and advice
> everyday. I've learned sooo much.  Thanks again for any help you can give
me.
>  Denise & "Deuce"
>

Fw: [BMDCAmembers] Fw: Montana Collie trial update

[jesse & shelley gonzales]

- Original Message -
From: "jesse & shelley gonzales" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Ruth Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
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Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: [BMDCAmembers] Fw: Montana Collie trial update


> Hello All,
> As a Montanan and BMD owner I am sickened by the mistrial in this case.  I
> have followed the trial closely and the testimony by the witnesses for the
> prosecution seemed to make this a closed case.  I guess the defendants
were
> not judged by a jury of his/her peers.  Any breeder/dog fancier would have
> seen that these dogs were neglected.  Facts in the case...per the
newspaper
> were as follows:
> 1. Veterinary testimony...on a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being emaciated and 10
> being obese, what was the condition of the dogs...the dogs were rated a 2.
> These dogs could not have become so emaciated in the 6 days they were in
the
> semi.
> 2.  Time needed to care for the 170 dogs...it takes 33 man hours a day to
> feed and water the dogs, 18 man hours to exercise the dogs.  The defendant
> said she did this while her husband slept in the semi.
> 3.  The defendant lied to the RCMP, the Border inspector and others about
> the number of dogs in the semi.
> 4.  The defendant said that the support vehicle following the semi caught
> fire and all dog food and records were lost.  While the defendant had
> receipts for all expenses after the fire, there were no receipts for the
> purchase of dog food...200 lbs. a day!
>
> The county attorney is considering filing a motion for a retrial.  As dog
> owners and members of the BMD club and/or all breed clubs, I urge you to
> send an email to the county attorney requesting that a new trial be set,
> possibly with a change of venue to Great Falls where this is a local all
> breed club and clearly the chance of a selection of a jury of the
defendants
> peers.  The office of the county attorney's email address is
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  You can read the entire news article on the trial
at
> www.greatfallstribune.com, click on local news.  They do not archive their
> paper so you need to access it today.
>
> Thank you for any and all support you can give the county attorney's
office.
> Sitting here sick to my stomach and totally disgusted,
>
> Shelley Gonzales
> Bigfork, MT
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ruth Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 7:40 AM
> Subject: [BMDCAmembers] Fw: Montana Collie trial update
>
>
> > Nature
> > UPDATE 1/29/03 on the Montana Collies
> > Statement by AWCA President Jean Levitt, from Shelby, MT, in the
courtroom
> > *Permission to crosspost*
> >
> > Trial
> > On Wednesday, January 29, at 8:00 pm Mountain Standard Time, the judge
> > declared a mistrial.  The jury had failed to reach a decision (5 voted
Not
> > Guilty, 1 voted Guilty).  The jury has been excused.  Prosecutor Merle
> Raph
> > will file a written motion to consider another trial date.  According to
> > defense attorney Albers, Ms. Harman is looking for about 70 adoptive
> homes.
> > There will be no plea bargain because even one count of animal cruelty
> will
> > result in loss of AKC privileges.
> >
> >
> >
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(no subject)

[Adogable9]

Hi Everyone-  I have an 8 mo old Berner who is quite smart.  We would like to 
start training him for agility.  Have found a trainer who gives an 8 week 
course for this. My question is this- is he too young to start training for 
this?  I wouldn't want to do anything to harm him - I know he has alot of 
growing to do and wouldn't want to jeopardize his hips or legs. Anyone have 
any advice for me?  Love listening to all of your suggestions and advice 
everyday. I've learned sooo much.  Thanks again for any help you can give me. 
 Denise & "Deuce"

Companion dog Airliners

[Cheryl Otis]

A friend passed this onto me from her PWD mailing
list.

I got this info from my other list. I thought you
might be interested:
>> "Companion Air" is first-ever Airline created to
Fly Companion Animals
> with
>> Their Humans
>>
>> Forward Widely!
>>
>> Source: AAA World magazine, January/February 2003
issue, page 24.
>>
>> "Finally Pets Can Fly Right"
>>
>> Animal lovers who want to fly with their pets
finally have an option
>> beyond checking their furry friends like baggage.
Companion Air, a
>> start-up set to take its first flight early this
year, is the first
>> airline created specifically for pets and their
guardians.
>>
>> Pets fly in secure travel kennels in a special pet
cabin area of the
>> plane, adjacent to the human passenger seating.
Barring turbulence
>> and other in-seat restrictions, pets can visit the
human passenger
>> section, one at a time. Humans can visit their pets
in the pet
>> section anytime.
>>
>> A roundtrip "pampered comfort" fare -- 14-day
advance purchase,
>> departure may "flex" by a day -- for one human
passenger and one pet
>> roundtrip between New York and Washington, DC, cost
around $500.
>> Compared with the price of transporting a human and
a large animal on
>> a major airline -- Northwest Airlines charges $299
each way for a
>> large animal, plus the human fare -- Companion Air
is downright
>> reasonable.
>>
>> For more information on fares, services and
schedules, visit:
>> www.CompanionAir.com


Regards,
Cheryl, Tessa & Tanner


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Re: article on puppy mills

[Courtney Erickson]

Do they have an online link?

Courtney Erickson
- Original Message -
From: "Mark Mohapp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 1:01 PM
Subject: article on puppy mills


> I just read a fairly good article in Dog Watch - The Newsletter for Dog
> People published by Cornell University College of Veterinary Medicine.
The
> article "Puppy Mills How You Can Help to Put an End to the Abuse Cycle" is
> in the February 2003 edition, vol 7, No.2.
>
> "Most of the nation's 5,000 puppy mills are located in Missouri,
> Pennsylvania, Iowa, and Kansas."  Not sure of the accuracy on that but it
> gives helpful ideas on what to do and information on pending legislation.
>
> Mark Mohapp
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>

article on puppy mills

[Mark Mohapp]

I just read a fairly good article in Dog Watch - The Newsletter for Dog
People published by Cornell University College of Veterinary Medicine.  The
article "Puppy Mills How You Can Help to Put an End to the Abuse Cycle" is
in the February 2003 edition, vol 7, No.2.

"Most of the nation's 5,000 puppy mills are located in Missouri,
Pennsylvania, Iowa, and Kansas."  Not sure of the accuracy on that but it
gives helpful ideas on what to do and information on pending legislation.

Mark Mohapp
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Old Email

[Jeannie Schoen]

Could Gayle Gramstad please Email me.  Thanks
Happy Trails, Jeannie Schoen

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Re: 2003 specialty list

[Lynne Hawkinson]

Hi Andrea,

The 2003 Specialty Yahoo group is for committee chairs only.  We use this
list to communicate since we are all located in different areas.

Lynne

- Original Message -
> what are the requirements for joining the yahoo list? i was rejected.
> perhaps there was a yahoo glitch. that has happened to me once before.
> thanks
> andrea

2003 specialty list

[Andrea Brin]

what are the requirements for joining the yahoo list? i was rejected.
perhaps there was a yahoo glitch. that has happened to me once before.
thanks
andrea

Looking for a trainer

[Beth Saunders Grier]

Does anyone know of a dog trainer in the Charlotte, NC area who is familiar
with Bernese Mountain Dogs?  My husband and I are the proud owners of 7
month old Emma and would like to work with a professional trainer.  So far,
in our search for a good trainer we have been unsuccessful, I have
interviewed a couple of people however, both said they could not work with
Emma because she is shy and will not "bond" with them.  Any assistance you
could provide us is greatly appreciated.

Beth, Mike & Emma
Charlotte, NC





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FW: Idea for Oprah?

[Dawn Kjeldsen]

I have a friend who has been a producer at the Oprah Winfrey Show for years.
Occasionally she asks if I have any story ideas, and I could mention the
puppy mill/auction angle to her -- however I've pitched other animal-related
stories to her in the past to no avail. Oftentimes, the producers are given
guidelines to the shows they need to develop (i.e. one time she was looking
for "post 9-11 feel good" stories, etc.), so there's a chance if they are
looking for animal stories in the near future, this could get picked up.

If you want to send me details on the pitch you have in mind, I would be
happy to pass it along to my friend.

Dawn Freeland
Houston, TX
Devoted friend to Murphy (14-month old Berner)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 12:16 AM
To: Willem Wijnberg
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Idea for Oprah?


Someone has just asked me if it would be possible to present an idea to
Oprah about doing a show on the puppy mills and auctions. I know that people
have raised this idea in the past (since Oprah has a few Golden Retrievers,
it's possible she would have some interest in the merits of the idea), I
wondered how much luck anyone has had in getting this across to the show
producers? Any ideas?

Pat Long (& Luther)
Berwyn PA


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Eosinophilic Gasterenteritis

[Valerie Young]

Kathleen - is this considered an autoimmune disease?  Valerie

Blowing coat question

[Cheryl Otis]

Is there a general age for the first time an altered
male will blow his coat and how long does it last?
Tanner is just 10 months and has just about lost all
the long hairs along the ridge of his back and all
around his neck. The under coat is comming out from
everywhere except his tail. He is really looks a mess,
I can pull the hair our by the hand fulls but he is
not dry, flakey or itchy. We have had a mild January
here in the N.W. but our girl Tessa is not shedding
out. 

Regards,
Cheryl, Tessa and the Incredibly Shedding Tanner
Portland, Or.

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RE: Random thoughts, Stevie and BEHAF

[Pat Long]

Andrea,

You raise an excellent idea, but maybe it should be phrased a bit 
differently. Perhaps BEHAF could help finance a set of wheels. We could set 
up a special friends fund for Hugo!

The people who make up BEHAF don't have any resources that we don't have, so 
it wouldn't be up to them to locate specialized care or equipment. But, if 
you can find some wheels that Hugo could use, or if someone else knows where 
those can be acquired - we could sure find a way for all of us to donate so 
that BEHAF can fund the purchase!

Pat Long, a babysat shedding Gabby (& non-shedding Luther)
Berwyn PA





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Re: BERNER-L digest 4250

[Hrtprarie]

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E-coli in urine - Trimethoprin-Sulfa

[jeccjax]

We have a 2 1/2 year old male who, while our two bitches were/are in season suddenly 
had a watery-bloody smear on his foot and on the floor, which when drawn out from his 
bladder by a catheter turned out to be lots of blood (the specimin was claret-colored) 
in his urine and tested to be an e-coli infection.  His prostate was a bit enlarged, 
but our vet said they did not seem to be infected and she thought that was just the 
result of the girls smelling good.  The blood, though, seemed to be more than just his 
being excited.

Has anyone had a similar problem?  Our vet has determined that this is resistant to 
Keflex (cefalexin) and to Batril, and has now prescribed a sulfa drug, 
Trimethoprinsulfa, which she says works well in big dogs and horses.  However, she 
said it can cause dry eye in Dobermans - but she found no indication of problems with 
the drug in bernese mountain dogs.

Does anyone have any ideas as to what causes this kind of infection?  If there is 
something I can do to prevent it, I certainly will.  He's a picky eater, and doesn't 
eat pooh, as far as I'm aware, so I'm at a loss as to how he would have contracted 
something like this.

A friend has suggested that we give him colloidial silver in his water as an 
antibacterial meaure - apparently it works well with urinary tract infections in 
humans and some people have had good luck with it in dogs and other pets.

He sldo seems uncharacteristically whiney - so I wonder if he is in pain.  I can't 
tell if it is sypathy he wants because of the girls, or if he is really, really 
uncomfortable.  I tend to think he hurts and is looking to me to help make it better.

I would certainly appreciate any information anyone has on this new and troubling 
problem.  Including any experience - positive or negative - with this new drug.

Thanks.

Jean Coker
Jacksonville, Florida

Molly Bass:-)

[Rose Tierney]

Hi Molly,
What's a Tarheel??

Rose T.

Re: unique tricks

[Annes4]

While Flash has a limited repetoire, shake, high "4" (his dewclaws are 
removed ), bow, and pray, Gypsy is much more into tricks.  One of the 
easiest to teach and won us some "Best Trick" classes as breed picnics was to 
jump through a hoop.  I got a large hula hoop at the toy store and starting 
with it on the ground and using a treat as a lure, first got him walking 
through it.  Slowly I began raising it off the floor maybe an inch at a time 
until. after a few weeks, it was about 6 - 8" off the floor.  While you 
wouldn't want to be jumping your young Berner, at that height, he really 
wouldn't be jumping, but he would be conditioned to going through the hoop.  
It's a great start on teaching the agility tire!  Put a few streamers on the 
hoop and it is very showy .

Anne Copeland, Flash,TDI/CGC (Berner, 8 1/2 yrs.) & Gypsy TDI/CGC(Rescue 
Cavalier,2 yrs.)
BMDCSEW Tracking Test Chair/Sec. - BMDCA Corresponding Secretary
NE ILL   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ty's memorial page: http://www.geocities.com/workingyorkie/ty.html
Gypsy's page:http://hometown.aol.com/annes4/Gypsy.html

RE: Idea for Oprah?

[Rose Tierney]

Hi,
I believe its American Cocker Spaniels that Oprah owns not Golden
Retreivers.

With the current climate I don't think the producers would be too receptive
about a show on Puppy Mills, seems to me the show has been very focussed on
"people" issues lately and once you're talking about governors lifting
death sentences and the threat of war and social roots I don't think dogs
are very high on the worry list right now. Media is too focussed on other
issues right now and a puppy mill story would get washed away. IMO Good
idea but poor timing for mass effect.

Rose T.

Potty confusion...I think!

[lisa stucke]

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RE: Random thoughts, Stevie and BEHAF

[Andrea Brin]

maybe behalf could help out by helping to find hugo a set of wheels he could
practice with. it would truly be wonderful if we could be a resource to dogs
like hugo as well. it is truly a wonderful thing that behalf exists as part
of this wonderful community.
andrea, woofit and chi

shavertown, pa

http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/





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Subject: Random thoughts, Stevie and BEHAF


Can you all tell I've had a bit of insomnia tonight? Been up since 2:15 EST.

I just wanted to comment on the recent events re:Stevie and Karen. First I
love Stevie Nicks so you already had me right there. But, Karen I have been
following all your posts on Stevie. I am so happy he is making such
progress. But the recent post about BEHAF and Stevie possibly being a
Special Friend just blew me away.

First I was so happy that people had suggested that Stevie be made a SF of
BEHAF. That's exactly why the SF catagory was started. But to then hear that
someone offered to pay all your medical bills, Karenwell I was just
floored. Seriously I lost it.

To that most generous person, there is a special place in Berner Heaven
waiting for you.

Now I promise I will try not to send 3 e-mails on the same day again, Pat.

Much love to Karen, Stevie and the wonderful benefactor. And please remember
BEHAF, and the Special Friends catagory. It is in existence for those not so
fortunate as Karenthey either don't qualify or are reluctant to accept
funding.but have captured the sympathies of the berner community, that
is what the SF's category is for. All funds go directly to the designated SF
[any amount over the needed funds go into the BEHAF general fund] .

Much love to that special person who took care of Stevies medical bills.
And all my best too Karen and Stevie.

Cathi with Bacchus and Ari
visit BEHAF www.BEHAF.com   see memorials, favorite dog poems and send
digital berner postcards!

Random thoughts, Stevie and BEHAF

[bernese]

Can you all tell I've had a bit of insomnia tonight? Been up since 2:15 EST.

I just wanted to comment on the recent events re:Stevie and Karen. First I
love Stevie Nicks so you already had me right there. But, Karen I have been
following all your posts on Stevie. I am so happy he is making such
progress. But the recent post about BEHAF and Stevie possibly being a
Special Friend just blew me away.

First I was so happy that people had suggested that Stevie be made a SF of
BEHAF. That's exactly why the SF catagory was started. But to then hear that
someone offered to pay all your medical bills, Karenwell I was just
floored. Seriously I lost it.

To that most generous person, there is a special place in Berner Heaven
waiting for you.

Now I promise I will try not to send 3 e-mails on the same day again, Pat.

Much love to Karen, Stevie and the wonderful benefactor. And please remember
BEHAF, and the Special Friends catagory. It is in existence for those not so
fortunate as Karenthey either don't qualify or are reluctant to accept
funding.but have captured the sympathies of the berner community, that
is what the SF's category is for. All funds go directly to the designated SF
[any amount over the needed funds go into the BEHAF general fund] .

Much love to that special person who took care of Stevies medical bills.
And all my best too Karen and Stevie.

Cathi with Bacchus and Ari
visit BEHAF www.BEHAF.com   see memorials, favorite dog poems and send
digital berner postcards!

Re: unique tricks

[bernese]

Our girl Ari is what you might call a "one trick pony". She loves to lay on
the bed with us watching TV, and once we said "okay...off now girl". Well
she put her paw over her eye.thinking we wouldn't notice the other 85
lbs of her. It was just so adorablenow we say "put your paw over your
eye" and she does.

Our one trick pony, Ari

Cathi

Re: tricks

[bernese]

Sorry, had to respond again. We taught Bacchus "little woofs". He will give
a little allmost soundless woof. Originally taaught himm by putting my hands
over  my ears and saying "oh my.that is WAY too loud".  Try a little
woof. LOL

Love them berners

Cathican you tell I have insomnia tonight?
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