Re: [bess] Comments about draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd-01

2018-11-06 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Hi Donald,

-Original Message-
From: Donald Eastlake 
Date: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 6:59 PM
To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" 
Cc: "bess@ietf.org" , 
"draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd.auth...@ietf.org" 

Subject: Re: Comments about draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd-01

Hi Jorge,

On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 9:12 PM Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain
View)  wrote:
>
> Hi Donald,
>
> Thank you for this.
> For the second question, I get from your answer that you will keep both 
encapsulations for the time being?

Well, once a draft is posted, it can't be changed, so the currently
posted -01 won't change but the -02 version that is being worked on
and is not yet posted eliminates the alternative encapsulation.

[JORGE] :-) of course. I misunderstood your answer. Sounds good then. Thank you!

Thanks,
Donald
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> Thanks.
> Jorge
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Donald Eastlake 
> Date: Monday, November 5, 2018 at 8:48 PM
> To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" 
> Cc: "bess@ietf.org" , 
"draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd.auth...@ietf.org" 

> Subject: Re: Comments about draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd-01
>
> Hi Jorge,
>
> On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 4:44 AM Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain
> View)  wrote:
> >
> > Dear authors,
> >
> > I couldn’t make it to the BESS meeting, so my apologies if some of 
these things have been discussed.
> >
> > Some comments/questions:
>
> Thanks for sending comments.
>
> > - In the last IETF, I suggested the use of BGP and the BGP-BFD 
attribute to exchange discriminators, as in section 3.1.6 of 
draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover. The idea seemed to be accepted, but it is 
not in the new version. This would allow the signaling of the discriminators 
along with MAC/IP routes, IMET routes, AD per-EVI routes, IP-Prefix routes, 
etc. without the burden of having to support the EVPN LSP-ping draft.
>
> There is a draft version -02 in the works intended to include
> distribution of BFD discriminators in BGP but this revision was not
> completed to the agreement of the authors in time to posted before
> this meeting.
>
> > - The draft describes an encapsulation and an alternative 
encapsulation. Is the intend to keep both? Wouldn't be better to leave only one 
to ease implementations and interoperability?
>
> Currently, the candidate version -02 draft dispenses with with the
> alternative encapsulation.
>
> Thanks,
> Donald
> ===
>  Donald E. Eastlake 3rd   +1-508-333-2270 (cell)
>  1424 Pro Shop Court, Davenport, FL 33896 USA
>  d3e...@gmail.com
>
> > Thank you.
> > Jorge
>
>


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Re: [bess] Comments about draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd-01

2018-11-06 Thread Donald Eastlake
Hi Jorge,

On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 9:12 PM Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain
View)  wrote:
>
> Hi Donald,
>
> Thank you for this.
> For the second question, I get from your answer that you will keep both 
> encapsulations for the time being?

Well, once a draft is posted, it can't be changed, so the currently
posted -01 won't change but the -02 version that is being worked on
and is not yet posted eliminates the alternative encapsulation.

Thanks,
Donald
===
 Donald E. Eastlake 3rd   +1-508-333-2270 (cell)
 1424 Pro Shop Court, Davenport, FL 33896 USA
 d3e...@gmail.com

> Thanks.
> Jorge
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Donald Eastlake 
> Date: Monday, November 5, 2018 at 8:48 PM
> To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" 
> Cc: "bess@ietf.org" , 
> "draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd.auth...@ietf.org" 
> 
> Subject: Re: Comments about draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd-01
>
> Hi Jorge,
>
> On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 4:44 AM Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain
> View)  wrote:
> >
> > Dear authors,
> >
> > I couldn’t make it to the BESS meeting, so my apologies if some of 
> these things have been discussed.
> >
> > Some comments/questions:
>
> Thanks for sending comments.
>
> > - In the last IETF, I suggested the use of BGP and the BGP-BFD 
> attribute to exchange discriminators, as in section 3.1.6 of 
> draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover. The idea seemed to be accepted, but it is 
> not in the new version. This would allow the signaling of the discriminators 
> along with MAC/IP routes, IMET routes, AD per-EVI routes, IP-Prefix routes, 
> etc. without the burden of having to support the EVPN LSP-ping draft.
>
> There is a draft version -02 in the works intended to include
> distribution of BFD discriminators in BGP but this revision was not
> completed to the agreement of the authors in time to posted before
> this meeting.
>
> > - The draft describes an encapsulation and an alternative 
> encapsulation. Is the intend to keep both? Wouldn't be better to leave only 
> one to ease implementations and interoperability?
>
> Currently, the candidate version -02 draft dispenses with with the
> alternative encapsulation.
>
> Thanks,
> Donald
> ===
>  Donald E. Eastlake 3rd   +1-508-333-2270 (cell)
>  1424 Pro Shop Court, Davenport, FL 33896 USA
>  d3e...@gmail.com
>
> > Thank you.
> > Jorge
>
>

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Re: [bess] Comments about draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd-01

2018-11-05 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Hi Donald,

Thank you for this.
For the second question, I get from your answer that you will keep both 
encapsulations for the time being? 

Thanks.
Jorge


-Original Message-
From: Donald Eastlake 
Date: Monday, November 5, 2018 at 8:48 PM
To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" 
Cc: "bess@ietf.org" , 
"draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd.auth...@ietf.org" 

Subject: Re: Comments about draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd-01

Hi Jorge,

On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 4:44 AM Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain
View)  wrote:
>
> Dear authors,
>
> I couldn’t make it to the BESS meeting, so my apologies if some of these 
things have been discussed.
>
> Some comments/questions:

Thanks for sending comments.

> - In the last IETF, I suggested the use of BGP and the BGP-BFD attribute 
to exchange discriminators, as in section 3.1.6 of 
draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover. The idea seemed to be accepted, but it is 
not in the new version. This would allow the signaling of the discriminators 
along with MAC/IP routes, IMET routes, AD per-EVI routes, IP-Prefix routes, 
etc. without the burden of having to support the EVPN LSP-ping draft.

There is a draft version -02 in the works intended to include
distribution of BFD discriminators in BGP but this revision was not
completed to the agreement of the authors in time to posted before
this meeting.

> - The draft describes an encapsulation and an alternative encapsulation. 
Is the intend to keep both? Wouldn't be better to leave only one to ease 
implementations and interoperability?

Currently, the candidate version -02 draft dispenses with with the
alternative encapsulation.

Thanks,
Donald
===
 Donald E. Eastlake 3rd   +1-508-333-2270 (cell)
 1424 Pro Shop Court, Davenport, FL 33896 USA
 d3e...@gmail.com

> Thank you.
> Jorge


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Re: [bess] Comments about draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd-01

2018-11-05 Thread Donald Eastlake
Hi Jorge,

On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 4:44 AM Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain
View)  wrote:
>
> Dear authors,
>
> I couldn’t make it to the BESS meeting, so my apologies if some of these 
> things have been discussed.
>
> Some comments/questions:

Thanks for sending comments.

> - In the last IETF, I suggested the use of BGP and the BGP-BFD attribute to 
> exchange discriminators, as in section 3.1.6 of 
> draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover. The idea seemed to be accepted, but it is 
> not in the new version. This would allow the signaling of the discriminators 
> along with MAC/IP routes, IMET routes, AD per-EVI routes, IP-Prefix routes, 
> etc. without the burden of having to support the EVPN LSP-ping draft.

There is a draft version -02 in the works intended to include
distribution of BFD discriminators in BGP but this revision was not
completed to the agreement of the authors in time to posted before
this meeting.

> - The draft describes an encapsulation and an alternative encapsulation. Is 
> the intend to keep both? Wouldn't be better to leave only one to ease 
> implementations and interoperability?

Currently, the candidate version -02 draft dispenses with with the
alternative encapsulation.

Thanks,
Donald
===
 Donald E. Eastlake 3rd   +1-508-333-2270 (cell)
 1424 Pro Shop Court, Davenport, FL 33896 USA
 d3e...@gmail.com

> Thank you.
> Jorge

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[bess] Comments about draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd-01

2018-11-05 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Dear authors,

I couldn’t make it to the BESS meeting, so my apologies if some of these things 
have been discussed.
 
Some comments/questions:

- In the last IETF, I suggested the use of BGP and the BGP-BFD attribute to 
exchange discriminators, as in section 3.1.6 of 
draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover. The idea seemed to be accepted, but it is 
not in the new version. This would allow the signaling of the discriminators 
along with MAC/IP routes, IMET routes, AD per-EVI routes, IP-Prefix routes, 
etc. without the burden of having to support the EVPN LSP-ping draft.

- The draft describes an encapsulation and an alternative encapsulation. Is the 
intend to keep both? Wouldn't be better to leave only one to ease 
implementations and interoperability?

Thank you.
Jorge





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