Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SqueezePlay - how intensively should we be testing it?
A couple of points: I have been working with SqueezePlay (SP) audio on Linux. I have implemented the various sync-related protocol enhancements. Sync playback works well for me but subject to many of the usual caveats with regard to synchronization and software players. I recently fixed a problem with FLAC playback when the buffer is not kept resasonably supplied, such as with transcoding of a radio stream (AlienBBC is the prime example). This could cause high CPU use. (A similar fix is required for the hardware players.) -- awy awy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7480 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53555 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
[SlimDevices: Beta] Cannot connect to SC 7.3 Oct 13 build on ReadyNAS
I wanted to try the latest 7.3 build, mainly to see and test if I can use the my new Squeezebox Duet controller as a player (headphone output) which I read somewhere would be supported under 7.3 I have no problems running 7.2 build on ReadyNas running RAIDiator 4.1.4 [1.00a042] however after I loaded todays build (13 Oct) http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/latest/7.3/SqueezeCenter_7.3~23529.bin I cannot access it from my browser. My controller also fails to connect. The server shows no errors and the plugin service claims to have been installed and started with no problems. I recovered by reloading the release 7.2 bin. I know 7.3 is not yet supported so I just thought I would report this in case it helps but I would dearly like to get it going so any suggestions are welcome. -- hipitihop hipitihop's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20496 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53728 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Cannot connect to SC 7.3 Oct 13 build on ReadyNAS
Try yesterday's 7.3 build. 7.3 is fairly stable, but I think today's is broken. -- Fletch Fletch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=529 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53728 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Cannot connect to SC 7.3 Oct 13 build on ReadyNAS
> I cannot access it from my browser. My controller also fails to connect. I'm sorry, I broke tonight's build. You'd probably best download yesterday's build: http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/SqueezeCenter_7.3_trunk_v2008-10-12/ -- Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Cannot connect to SC 7.3 Oct 13 build on ReadyNAS
> Try yesterday's 7.3 build. 7.3 is fairly stable, but I think today's is > broken. BTW: no need to file a bug. I've already fixed the issue, but the builds were created based on a buggy checkin. -- Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Cannot connect to SC 7.3 Oct 13 build on ReadyNAS
mherger;349311 Wrote: > BTW: no need to file a bug. I've already fixed the issue, but the builds > were created based on a buggy checkin. Yeah, I was gonna say something on campfire when I saw you check in the fix... -- Fletch Fletch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=529 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53728 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] can't power off SB with 7.3?
Some new data: I just installed 7.3 (23459, installed from the deb package) on my Lenovo laptop and I don't have the failure to power off issue. The problem reported earlier was with 7.3 (23523, installed from the tarball) running on my LinkStation Pro (ARM proc). So it seems to be something platform-specific. -- aubuti Nothing high-end, but music anywhere I want it. LinkStation HD-HG (debian) feeding: Basement: SB2 > JVC JA-S44 > ESS Tempest LS8; Kitchen/Dining: SB Duet > AudioSource Amp100 > 2 pairs Polk RC60i; Living room: SB3 > Technics SA-EX140 > Bose Acoustimass 3; Bedroom: SB Boom + SBC; Study: SB Duet > Klipsch ProMedia 2.0; Kid's bedroom: SB2 > Klipsch ProMedia 2.0 http://www.last.fm/user/aubuti/ aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53709 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
[SlimDevices: Beta] New preference default detection for language & music source
In an attempt to make the SC wizard obsolete I've been working on improved default behaviour on initial setup (SC 7.3). The two most important settings in the wizard were language and music source. These are now detected from your system if possible: Language: - Windows/OSX: use system language setting using system calls - Rest: use locale setting to _guess_ the language Music source: - "audiodir": read user's default music folder (OSX/Win XP+ only) - "itunes": if iTunes is installed an available, then use it (OSX/Win) - "musicip": if MusicIP is listening on port 10002: use it (all systems). -> use "quick" mixable status import only, if music folder is defined -> use full import, if no music folder is defined I'd be glad if you could test this on your various configurations. You'd have to wipe the above settings from your server/itunes/musicip prefs files before restarting SC. -- Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
[SlimDevices: Beta] Cleanup script
I've added a simple cleanup script to 7.3 trunk, which should help you get rid of your SC preferences, cache and mysql database. Simply run "cleanup.pl" from the SC installation folder (Windows .exe still to be done), while SC is shut down. It currently supports only three parameters: --cache, --prefs, --all. Please give them a try (but don't complain if you have to run a full re-scan afterwards ;-)). Any comment is welcome. Thanks! -- Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Download nightly compiled builds of 7.3 SqueezePlay for win32 and Mac OSX (Intel)
Hi, In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, awy<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > adhawkins;348300 Wrote: >> >> Just had a thought. Do we need to be running 7.3.x SqueezeCentre for >> SqueezePlay playback to work? >> >> Andy > > Hmm, not sure but I don't think so. Ok. Can someone give me a step by step guide to getting SqueezePlay to play audio (rather than just control an instance of SoftSqueeze)? If I go the main menu and select 'Test Decode' I can get it to play the various tones. If I go into 'Settings' -> 'Advanced' -> TEST_PLAYBACK I get two options: x.x.x.x (the ip.address of my server) my.server.name (the name of the same server) If I press 'Right' on the IP address, it remains in this menu. If I press 'Right' on the server name it goes back up to the 'Advanced' menu. Is the fact that I'm running an instance of SoftSqueeze on the same machine as SqueezePlay causing problems? Thanks for any help. Andy ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Download nightly compiled builds of 7.3 SqueezePlay for win32 and Mac OSX (Intel)
adhawkins;349353 Wrote: > If I go into 'Settings' -> 'Advanced' -> TEST_PLAYBACK I get > two options: > > x.x.x.x (the ip.address of my server) > my.server.name (the name of the same server) > > If I press 'Right' on the IP address, it remains in this menu. If I > press > 'Right' on the server name it goes back up to the 'Advanced' menu. > Andy I only get the server name in the TEST_PLAYBACK menu, but it does the same thing... just bounces me back to the advanced menu. -- MeSue Sue http://www.last.fm/user/MeSue MeSue's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=985 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53342 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New preference default detection for language &music source
What percentage of Windows users do you expect have their libraries in My Music or else use iTunes? What happens when some percentage of new users start the server for the first time and have no music, or have the one demo tune that was in My Music? How do they figure out how/where to set the music folder? -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53718 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New preference default detection for language &music source
> What happens when some percentage of new users start the server for the > first time and have no music, or have the one demo tune that was in My > Music? How do they figure out how/where to set the music folder? There's no final plan yet. But latest was to have a summary of what had been done (discovered configuration), what was going on (background scan), and where the user could fix this (instructions) at first start. Consider this a one page wizard with only the summary page displayed. -- Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New preference default detection for language &music source
mherger;349385 Wrote: > There's no final plan yet. But latest was to have a summary of what had > been done (discovered configuration), what was going on (background > scan), and where the user could fix this (instructions) at first start. > Consider this a one page wizard with only the summary page displayed. So instead of putting a setup wizard into the installer, it ends up appearing the first time the user enters the web interface? Maybe not a bad idea, but it probably comes with its own set of obstacles. One disadvantage would be requiring the user to restart the server should they not want iTunes or MusicIP integration. What's the push for doing this - that it would be more cross-platform? -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53718 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Installer EXE naming, port checking, and firewalls
No, never thought of that kind of a check. Actually, when I did the reinstall of a nightly that I had already installed (for the pause issue) it hit the firewall check again even though I'm pretty sure that I responded with "allow always" the first time anyway. So, if there was a seperate .exe that was called by the installer and did the actual checking it wouldn't have to change and the firewall wouldn't ask every time, right? -- dwilliams01 dwilliams01's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10988 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53660 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Download nightly compiled builds of 7.3 SqueezePlay for win32 and Mac OSX (Intel)
Hi, In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, MeSue<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I only get the server name in the TEST_PLAYBACK menu, but it does the > same thing... just bounces me back to the advanced menu. I think I've mentioned before, but it's worth repeating, that the instance of SqueezePlay is far remote from the SlimCenter. I have the firewall opened up sufficiently that SoftSqueeze works just fine from the remote location. Andy ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New preference default detection for language &music source
i keep my music on an ext drive, and i don't think XP is aware of this in any way, (outside of the drive being recognized). the ext drive is not always available either. i see problems, many problems, with trying to so aggressively be clever. what if you have a NAS? what if u have multiple music locations? i realize this design only applies to new installs, not upgrades of previously existing installs, but i really think even a new user, or new install, needs a chance to set some basic options and elect as to whether or not they wat to start a scan. -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 (primary) / SBR (secondary) / SBC - w/SC 7.3b - Win XP Pro SP3 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - D-Link DIR-655 MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53718 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New preference default detection for language &music source
I don't put anyting into "my music", either. It is on a different drive, even. I suppose you could prompt as part of the actual installation exe for where the music is... There needs to be a prompt somewhere, though. -- dwilliams01 dwilliams01's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10988 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53718 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Cannot connect to SC 7.3 Oct 13 build on ReadyNAS
Thanks Michael & Fletch, I installed yesterdays and indeed I can now connect using the browser and also my duet controller. However It seems I can't play with the player so I guess there is another possibly player firmware I need to get things in sync. cheers Denis -- hipitihop hipitihop's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20496 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53728 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New preference default detection for language &music source
>i see problems, many problems, with trying to so aggressively be >clever. what if you have a NAS? what if u have multiple music >locations? > Casual consumers who use WMP, iTunes, etc, will not have music stored on external HD's, NAS, etc. This one-off installation for new users sounds okay to me. If there is no music in the default My Music folder, then a scan won't take long - it would almost be the equivalent of not setting a path and not running the scan ;) Phil ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New preference default detection for language &music source
fine, but even a new user might want to set if SC should treat TPE2 as album artist or not for instance, esp if that won't be the default, since it has a huge impact on mp3 users, you know, the masses. and thats just one such important option. if you don't, then you run the risk of a long scan, thats worthless and gives confusing results. -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 (primary) / SBR (secondary) / SBC - w/SC 7.3b - Win XP Pro SP3 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - D-Link DIR-655 MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53718 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Cleanup script
like a dope i missed your post, and posted this: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53743 i like the idea of it running from slimtray, is that how its gonna work? will it be able to do everything i laid out? will you be able to pick and choose which pieces to do? also, is there already a request to add a "restore defaults" to the settings pages? -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 (primary) / SBR (secondary) / SBC - w/SC 7.3b - Win XP Pro SP3 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - D-Link DIR-655 MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53719 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New preference default detection for language &music source
Well I never. I did an entirely fresh windows install at work today and used this wizard, only half realising it was different from usual. I was only setting SC up to attempt to hack Michaels Line Out plugin, so did not bother too much about a music library I just stole two albums from a colleagues collection and stuck them in My Documents/My Music. The install went perfectly and was seemless (which is more than I can say for the Boom plugin work, unfortunately). MC -- ModelCitizen On average people have fewer than two feet. http://www.last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53718 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Cleanup script
mherger;349264 Wrote: > Any comment is welcome. Thanks! My PlayLog plugin creates a directory inside the cache dir, as that's the only obvious place that I thought I could expect to have write privileges. Your cleanup tool appears (read the source at http://svn.slimdevices.com/repos/slim/7.3/trunk/server/cleanup.pl but haven't run it) to wipe out that entire directory. I'd personally prefer it if it were smart/gentle enough to only delete SC7 content from the cache dir. I don't know if this is a big deal -- I expect this is mostly a tool for support to suggest when something's *very* broken. But from my perspective it'd be nice if it were less aggressive. Perhaps another option would be making another directory for plugins' use? -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ free plugins: http://www.tux.org/~peterw/#slim AllQuiet BlankSaver ContextMenu FuzzyTime KitchenTimer PlayLog PowerCenter/BottleRocket SaverSwitcher SettingsManager SleepFade StatusFirst SyncOptions VolumeLock peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53719 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Cleanup script
The latest version of cleanup.pl has options to only delete certain parts of the cachedir - not exactly what you requested, but similar. > Perhaps another option would be making another directory for plugins' > use? Why can't you use the playlist dir? -- Fletch Fletch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=529 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53719 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Cleanup script
You forgot --logs. :-) I try to remember to clear the cache and logs when I stop my Windows server to do an SVN update. The logs only because they tend to grow so large if you have any logging levels set to Info or Debug. I've always thought a means of clearing the file and/or artwork cache would be nice to have as a function from within the web ui. It would certainly make life easier for users who are asked to clear these caches to see if it fixes problems in the web interface. Resetting server prefs would be nice if it could be done from the web ui, but I'm guessing SqueezeCenter's architecture makes this nearly impossible. A first step, though, would be to make it possible to reset individual prefs back to their defaults, which I don't think I've seen anywhere. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53719 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Cleanup script
> You forgot --logs. I just had a look at r23532. You didn't forget --logs. :-) Code: Description: add more granularity to the cleanup script --prefs --logs --mysql --filecache --cache --all -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53719 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New preference default detection for language &music source
There was a crasher on my Windows system running the Perl code. Can't locate Win32/Locale.pm. http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9708 -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53718 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New preference default detection for language &music source
> disadvantage would be requiring the user to restart the server should > they not want iTunes or MusicIP integration. No need to do so: we didn't disable the plugins before neither. We only disabled integration. > What's the push for doing this - that it would be more cross-platform? Ease of use, out of the box experience etc. We've seen a lot of new users struggle with the number of questions asked during an initial setup (product, SN subscription, SC installation & configuration). We'd like them to have the quickest and smoothest setup possible. Rather have them play music within 15 minutes, with some steps postponed, than let them struggle 2hrs until all and everything is configured. -- Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta