Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Scan Crashed on 7.4.1 during Merge VariousArtists, more
Great info, since the scan runs fine in Mac OS but crashes in Windows. -- sxr71 sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69988 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] MusicIP not pulling from Apple Lossless files in version
mherger;382125 Wrote: > > Such Apple Lossless songs will find themselves within MusicIP mixes, > > but those files themselves will not have the ability to create a > > MusicIP mix. > > Are they using the .alc file extension? > > Michael Sorry, I haven't been around for a while but they were all .M4A files. I basically solved my problems with ALAC and the lack of seeking by simply converting them all to FLAC. That was a cinch - handled by Mediamonkey with no sweat, tags and all preserved. -- sxr71 ---- sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57959 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] What is or what should be the killer feature ?
kakklank;496757 Wrote: > That's exactly what Tapestry is aimed at - playlisting from your library > given a song/ artist, genre and/or descriptor metadata. No doubt for > those that want to be Internet connected it can also generate "other > artists you might like" type stuff from outside your collection. > > MiP's great too - I rely on it at present for playlisting. Given a > choice though I'd likely opt for Tapestry because it enables a richer > experience. In an ideal world I'd have both means of generating a > playlist. > > For Tapestry, if properly implemented I'd happily part with $50-$100 as > a one-off and I'd be prepared to pay a nominal or volume based annual > subscription fee to deal with metadata addition for any new albums I > add. > > For MiP I'd pay a once off fee, say $50 for perpetual analysis and > useage. Of course, if their mixing algorithm were improved/ enhanced, > new features added, I'd be happy to pay for them also. > > Only because your product positioning is currently aimed at the > commoditised mass market. It shouldn't be -- the quality of your audio > offering is superior to everything the else in the mass market, but your > presentation is wrong. Fix the presentation - what this thread is > about, and you can comfortably reposition at the hi-fi end of the > market. Why would anyone pay for this? The only real difference between it and keeping the free MusicIP server running is it would ADVERTISE music to you and give you an easy way to buy it. Well that's what Apple's Genius does anyway. They don't really care about audiophiles yet since their still making money off the 256Kbps. Soon enough Apple will use that to raise the price of a song and offer you another "upgrade" to lossless for more money. They did it once and they'll do it again. Until then I guess we can use the results to just order the CD instead. -- sxr71 sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72512 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] What is or what should be the killer feature ?
kakklank;497238 Wrote: > Go do some reading, inform yourself and then come back and argue about > what something does or doesn't do. I don't have the mental energy to > engage in a debate with someone that hasn't the wherewithal to inform > themselves before firing off meaningless drivel. Not ONE person other than you finds anything magical about Tapestry. If anything it looks like a very nascent, beta form of Pandora/Last.FM/Slacker/other far more mature music suggestion engines. -- sxr71 ---- sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72512 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
[SlimDevices: Beta] Performance of Squeezecenter 7.5 beta (Win 7 x64)
I usually come here to complain about something that's not working. But over the last few weeks I've been noticing that the builds have been very stable and they haven't caused me any problems or issues. I've also noticed that performance seems to have been improved. The web interface seems more responsive and even in machines that are not the most powerful. It's a really good sign. I don't notice as much of a difference between my completely on RAMDisk/Core i7 (4.1GHz) system vs. running it on 5400RPM HDD/Core Duo Laptop at 1.6GHz as I did before. The one thing I do wonder about is why the web interface needs to read the actual music files when generating the album view with album art. I have my entire cached art in RAMDisk as well my entire Album Art folder. I have set SBS 7.5 to read the album art from that folder. I don't see why it needs to read the actual files. I see the read accesses in Win 7 Resource Monitor. It tells you which files are getting read/written to. Maybe there is something I'm missing. Also I've noticed that even on my overclocked to 4.1GHz Core i7 machine the limiting factor in web page generation is still the CPU. I see one core of my virtual 8 cores get pegged to the full 12.5% which reads as 13% in the Win 7 task manager and it stays there for about a second or two while the album page loads. But it seems faster on all hardware than before, but I'm curious as to what I can do to improve performance at this point. It might be overkill but I built that machine primarily to be as fast as possible running SBS. What can I do to make SBS respond lightning fast? Also I love the Web Interface more than the SB remote or iPeng. Overall with Trackstat and MusicIP there is no easier way to control your music and playlists. I hope it stays in the SB Touch. But I suppose I will always run the full server on one of my machines anyway. -- sxr71 ---- sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75156 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Performance of Squeezecenter 7.5 beta (Win 7 x64)
pippin;516258 Wrote: > Oh, and doing away with that "completely on RAMDisk" could actually help > as well. > RAMDisks were for the 80s when there was no decent memory management. > These days, the more you let your system do with the memory what it > wants, the better it will perform. If you run something from a RAM disk, > you take away RAM for the actual application so the system will swap > more. With an application being a memory hog like SBS with Custom Browse > is, that will probably result in a measurable performance hit. I have 6GB and never has my peak commit charge exceeded 2GB even with RAM devoted to SBS. It's the only thing that runs on that machine. If you try it you will see the difference. It is faster, and each web page operation causes that RAMDisk to be read instead of a slow HDD. I don't remember the last time this decade I have needed to hit a swap file due to being short on memory - memory is so cheap now. -- sxr71 ---- sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75156 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Performance of Squeezecenter 7.5 beta (Win 7 x64)
MrSinatra;516290 Wrote: > run SBS (and the OS) on a SSD. > > i haven't heard anyone using ramdisk in years. how exactly do you > implement it? I use this: http://memory.dataram.com/products-and-services/software/ramdisk It's free and has been rock solid. It backups the data before shutdown and restores the RAMDisk with data at bootup. The only thing I do is to disable automatic startup of SBS at login so the RAMDisk can be up and running before I start SBS. Just create a RAMDisk and install your SBS to it. That's the easiest way. But make sure your cache is moved as well. You can set it manually in server.prefs. I leave server.prefs on a physical drive but everything else is on the RAMDisk. It makes a difference and if you have lots of RAM and have never seen your peak commit charge high enough to indicate its being used I see it as a free upgrade. I also have run it on MAC OSX installed on an SSD and SBS running on a RAMDisk. RAMDisk is very easy on Mac OS you can type a line in terminal (easy Google search) or there's a program that backs up and restores RAMDisk images as well. It's easy, painless (once you set it up) and provides a performance boost. It seemed to me that SBS ran faster in Mac OS than in Windows though. I always run on maximum priority. -- sxr71 ---- sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75156 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Performance of Squeezecenter 7.5 beta (Win 7 x64)
Wirrunna;516304 Wrote: > We've gone way off topic but with RAM so cheap in the early days of SSDs > people started putting their XP memory page file on RAM Disk to save the > writes and performance issues. I've attached a wordpad doc with a bunch > of links. I have a couple of XP boxes with 8Gb ram and their page files > on ram disk. > > Back on topic, I have been using 7.4.2 and after sorting some album art > errors it has been going great guns. sxr71 which version of 7.5 , the > embedded or just plain 7.5 ? Just the plain. I've been fearing the embedded version but I guess I'll give it a try. -- sxr71 ---- sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75156 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Transponder dropouts when microwave is running
pfarrell;516252 Wrote: > There is no router in the path. Just a 100baseT switch. > > This same link has worked perfectly for about 5 years. > > I bought a SB1-G wired-only when the SB1-G came out because I had the > Ethernet wiring in place, and at the time, it was $40 cheaper to skip > the WiFi card. If you have a wireless access point in the network can you disable it and see if it still happens? If so, then maybe you could try better shielded Ethernet cables. -- sxr71 ---- sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75148 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Performance of Squeezecenter 7.5 beta (Win 7 x64)
One other thing I noticed was that those tiny files that exist in the cache folder need all the help they can get. They don't get read or written particularly fast by HDDs. -- sxr71 sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75156 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Transponder dropouts when microwave is running
iPhone;516439 Wrote: > Faraday Cage will not help as Pat's TP is wired and if its interference > it will just come in on the Ethernet or Power Cord. > > The solution is to unplug the Microwave. If its not plugged it, it > can't come on and cause interference. > > But seriously the real issue seems to be the new microwave as that is > what has changed in the equation. If you can return it, I would. Need to > check Consumer Reports for the model and brands that don't spray the > room down with RF Energy. It also helps to check the model at the store. > Have them put a cup of water in the microwave and turn it on. If you can > see light coming out the back, side, or bottom of the microwave when it > is running, don't buy it. If light from the inside bulb is getting out, > RF Engery is also getting out. Check the door gasket to make sure it > goes completely around and a metal door with a glass window with fine > screening, these are the only ones that keep RF energy in. If the > interior doesn't have an RF window cover on the wave guide port, also > don't buy it. > > The down side here is that most microwaves under $300 leak badly as > restrictions and requirements have been reduced. Yes, which is why cheater plug or isolation transformer was listed first. However I didn't consider the ethernet cable as a possible source. But you're right it's easier to unplug source and in a sense he's lucky to easily know what the source is. -- sxr71 sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75148 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
[SlimDevices: Beta] Music ip not working in embedded build
It just got broken somewhere along the line. I'm going back to working software like the regular 7.5 build. Also for the TWO YEARS I've been using this software the "additional playlist buttons" setting NEVER is remembered. I can't understand why this can't be put in the prefs file so it is remembered. -- sxr71 ---- sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75352 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Music ip not working in embedded build
Phil Leigh;517779 Wrote: > It is remembered - but in a browser cookie. Okay fair enough but it resets with each nightly update. It's pretty annoying. -- sxr71 ---- sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75352 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.5.0 - r30156 Embedded on XP SP3 - MIP ?
aubuti;517058 Wrote: > okay, I take that back. After a full clear and rescan MIP seems to be > working for me now on 7.5-embedded. Thanks! That didn't work for me. Even though it says it performed the MusicIP import the MusicIP button is nowhere to be found. At first it worked then it seemed an update broke it for some tracks and now after a full rescan it does not appear for any track. -- sxr71 ---- sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75242 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Performance of Squeezecenter 7.5 beta (Win 7 x64)
Well. I'm running 30285 regular (not ready for embedded yet) and I noticed some changes. No longer does an album browse need to read the read the files. It reads the album art from the cache which in my case is in RAMDisk. No more HDD access to browse. Just perfect. My scan time was only 15 minutes for a 32,000 file library. Very impressive. Keep up the good work! -- sxr71 sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75156 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Stability of 7.6?
I using the latest 7.6 beta and I have to say it is stable as in it does not crash or stop. However I've noticed that sometimes it just does not respond. It sits there and sits there and finally after 5-10 seconds it loads up the page I requested. Which is ridiculous on a 4GHz quad core i7 with the entire program and cache on a RAMDisk. However I understand a beta program will do crazy things. One thing I cannot for the life of me understand is why this program needs to wake up the HDD with the songs on it simply to display album art. Even with SQLite and the reworking of the program it seems to wake up my HDD (and I hear it) while it slowly displays album art. Can someone tell me what the purpose of the art cache is? Because it seems to me it does nothing but take up space. The new scanner is excellent and it updates the library periodically. So if there were any question that the file (or album) is actually present the periodic scans should answer that question. I don't see why the code is so inefficient as to request a wake up of my HDD just to display my album art while browsing. It's just very inefficient. I mean I could have this program running on a Cray supercomputer and it would still be slow and clunky. On the bright side, thank heaven for working Trackstat and iPeng on the SQLite 7.6 version. Somebody please make this program behave with some common sense else explain to me what the cache actually does. I understand logitech has put the developers under a lot of stress and with some crazy requests to be fulfilled in short order, but I really hope we could go back to the basics and make some things fundamentally more efficient. It would be much appreciated. -- sxr71 ---- sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79251 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
[SlimDevices: Beta] Need this thing to be lean and mean!
Hello everyone, I currently run SBS 7.6 (latest nightly per the date of this post) on Win 7 x64 on a 4Ghz core i7 with the entire program and its cache on RAMDisk. The system drive is a 80GB Intel SSD and it is where the .prefs file resides. I have done everything in my power to make this web interface respond fast and I must admit it does quite well. However I have noticed some hiccups like how it needs to read the HDD (or the network location) before showing album art on the web interface or on iPeng for that matter. Given this behavior the only next step I see is to literally get 1TB of SSDs to store my entire music collection on it. This would run maybe $2000. So I am asking those who have run SBS on Windows and on Mac OS if it really makes a speed difference by running on a Unix based OS. I am seriously considering the new Mac Mini to run both iTunes and SBS. Then I could use my PC only for HTPC and leave that power hungry monster in sleep mode. I will of course be putting everything on RAMDisk even in the Mac. I tried this on my Hackintosh and it works perfectly (My post history will show the programs I used - it was very easy. Also a RAMDisk on Mac can be set up in command line). So does it run faster on a Unix based OS? Is Windows holding me back? -- sxr71 sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79703 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Stability of 7.6?
andyg;555001 Wrote: > If a cover image is in the cache it shouldn't be going to the source > file at all, I thought I had already fixed that but will make a note to > take another look. Certainly there is more work to be done here, for > example cover.jpg changes on the disk aren't picked up the same way as > audio file changes are by the auto-rescanner. Thank you that was very reassuring. -- sxr71 ---- sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79251 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6 scanner problems
I was having some problems with the scanner and its results and I found that deleting cache using the control panel did not help. I saw that only some songs have MusicIP results and some rescans seemed to take forever. Anyway, I just navigated to the Squeezebox/cache directory and deleted all files there (leaving the directories as they were). I started up SBS and it seems to be doing a new scan and looking at task manager it seems to be the in-process scanner only. It looks so far like this may give me a correct scan. -- sxr71 sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81141 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] sticky artist tag: Sinead O`Connor is driving me nuts!
JJZolx;572548 Wrote: > Sounds like it could be a case of having multiple tags in the file, such > as both ID3v1 and ID3v2 or more likely ID3v2 and APE. The 'view tags' > function in SbS isn't a very good troubleshooting tool. The Mp3 > library it uses will read multiple tags from a file, apply a precedence > of one over another and return a value for what it calls TPE1. > > If you open these file in Mp3tag you should be able to see exactly > which tags are contained in the file and it should tell you which one > is being read by Mp3tag. It behaves a little like Sbs in that it will > give precedence to one type over another if multiple tags are found. > > You can try just deleting any ID3v1 and APE tags in Mp3tag or else you > can delete all tags and then paste them back and only write ID3v2 tags. > Afterwards, if you have the backtick you should see it and be able to > edit it. > > If you need help with Mp3tag, just ask, although the procedure is > described in other forum posts here, mostly in the tagging forum. I had such problems until I did this. It worked. -- sxr71 ---- sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81548 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
[SlimDevices: Beta] Squeezeplay and output device selection
I was thinking about using Squeezeplay with my Firewire interface but Squeezeplay only outputs to the internal speakers on a Mac. Are there any plans to change this so we can select the output device? -- sxr71 sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81999 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Suggestion for better "touch to play" behavior
Well whatever said and done I feel the SBS + IPeng interface is preferable to iTunes remote. It lets you select "play next" or "add to playlist" as options. You can create a playlist. iTunes remote is quite primitive in comparison IMHO. No way to create a playlist. -- sxr71 ---- sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69471 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
[SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6 r31401 scanner will not clear library and rescan/musicIP nightmares
Well, I've noticed a lot of changes in 7.6 but one in particular nearly makes MusicIP unusable. For whatever reason even when a correct scan was done and the SBS restarts it will rescan the library and in the process if MusicIP is not running it will clear all MusicIP data. The new automated rescans do not play well with MusicIP at all. Now if I select clear library and rescan it will not really work. This has been an issue for several releases and I am just bringing this up. I need to literally go into the SBS folder and delete the cache manually. Not to mention that the control panel "clear cache" function does absolutely nothing. So the only recourse I have with this is to just manually delete cache files and then start a rescan. Thankfully scans are faster but this whole thing is really a pain. Is there a solution? Can I stop those automated rescans? Can I somehow make it preserve MusicIP scans? I do believe in this platform and I recently picked up a Transporter because I didn't like using iTunes remote, but these software issues make life hard. -- sxr71 ---- sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82386 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6 r31401 scanner will not clear library and rescan/musicIP nightmares
Hello, Yes I have disabled the function "automatically detect changes". I am running on WHS Vail (Windows 2008 server) with a dual core Core i5 and 4GB RAM. I realized it happens on the startup scan if MusicIP is not running it drops all data from the MusicIP import. So the important thing is to make sure MusicIP is running before starting the server. However it is set to start on log-in so I must make sure the MusicIP also runs on log-in. My feeling is that dropping the MusicIP data with a rescan is bad behavior though. -- sxr71 ---- sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82386 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
[SlimDevices: Beta] MusicIP not pulling from Apple Lossless files in version
In version , I noticed that when I select the option to only read mixable status from MusicIP, a funny behavior manifests. Such Apple Lossless songs will find themselves within MusicIP mixes, but those files themselves will not have the ability to create a MusicIP mix. Is this something anyone else has experienced? Am I overlooking something in the configuration? Thanks. -- sxr71 sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57959 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Installation problems with 7.4-26071 (maybe linked with SoftSqueeze beta)
Chunkywizard;417823 Wrote: > Still poking around, I noticed a couple more things that might be of > interest. I am trying to install 26189 but after the failed install if > I go to the SC Control Panel on the WHS (as before it seems it > partially installed) then under settings it tells me there is a new > version of SC available. This ties up with the error message above > saying that the error is on 26132. It almost seems as though the > install is from the last version I had installed not 26189. Also I was > wondering how do I get a scanner.exe error after reboot when I > uninstalled SC from the WHS before reboot? Its almost as if I have 2 > installs. WHS doesn't find scanner.exe when I search but I have heard > it doesn't pick up system files so this might not be totally true. > Anyway I can search for scanner.exe? > > [Edit] One other thought. I wonder if this is related to either the PV > Connect or Media Sharing add-ins in WHS. PV Connect is actually another > name for Twonky and setup is on port 9000. I wonder if it uses similar > technology that is causing confusion. > > [Edit2] I have ActivePERL 5.10.0 Build 1004 installed on my WHS, could > this cause an issue? > > CW You must drop back to PERL 5.8. Every time I tried 5.10 it fails. -- sxr71 ---- sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62566 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
[SlimDevices: Beta] Trimming my SVN install of 7.4...
I have chosen to go the extreme route of putting my SC installation as well as my Perl installation and my MySQL installation on a RAM Disk. All I can say is that it flies! I mean artists load up in less than one second and load completely in Google Chrome (the fastest browser for this job; minefield 3.6 alpha is a close second). My concern is how massive my SC installation is. I noticed that Tortoise SVN downloads files for each and every version of SC. Even if I tell it to delete certain folders related to Mac OS or Linux it still keeps a lot of information in its folders. I can't get this installation down to less than 300MB. I could break the SVN but I like using it to update to the latest nightlies, which by the way I update to 3-4 times a week with no adverse effect. I wish there was a way to point Tortoise to only download the Win32 components of SC. Is there? -- sxr71 sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62745 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Trimming my SVN install of 7.4...
Yeah my solution is low tech but involves deleting out the useless folders: test softsqueeze Vendors\CPAN Also everything under Bin or anything in a folder not related to Win32 when the other items are clearly for other OSes. I got it down to 201MB or 221MB on Disk. I just do my updates in my RAM disk sync folder, then do my manual deletions and then copy to the RAM Disk. This setup simply flies. -- sxr71 sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62745 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Trimming my SVN install of 7.4...
Philip Meyer;420161 Wrote: > >test > >softsqueeze > > You don't need the whole of trunk - just fetch the server. i.e. I > point at: > > http://svn.slimdevices.com/repos/slim/7.4/trunk/server > > Phil Ahhh! That's great info! -- sxr71 ---- sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62745 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Trimming my SVN install of 7.4...
mherger;420390 Wrote: > > This doesn't work for me. If do a 'Delete and add to ignore list' > and > > then manually delete the folder, it just gets downloaded again the > next > > time I do an update. > > What if you only delete its content? It will re-download. -- sxr71 ---- sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62745 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Trimming my SVN install of 7.4...
I have to tell everyone, the method of delete and ignore and then manually deleting everything in the folders works perfectly. I updated again today and it even tells you which folders are deleted while doing the update. I have 106MB and 130MB on disk again. This is great for RAM Disk installs! -- sxr71 sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62745 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
[SlimDevices: Beta] 7.4 26506 Not playing certain ALAC files.
I've noticed that SC 7.4 26506 fails to play certain ALAC files. It plays some of them but with others it just shows the counter go to 1, 2 and 3 and then goes back to 0. I don't hear any music at all. I just wanted to report this here to see if anyone else is having problems. I know previous versions have played the same songs that this version is not playing. I run SC using SVN on WHS, I do not use the WHS version but rather the Perl version and I only download the "server" path and not the whole "Trunk" path. -- sxr71 ---- sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63158 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SC and the hardware player Firmware versions on SC Home Page
Settings -> Information. It's not that hard. -- sxr71 ---- sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63221 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.4 26506 Not playing certain ALAC files.
awy;422354 Wrote: > What happens if you try running the transcoding command by hand: > > Code: > > > "R:\SqueezeCenter\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\alac.exe" -r "D:\shares\Music\Music\Seenu\DAVEMA~2\THEGOR~1\GRA CEI~1.M4A" > tmp.pcm > > > > > Also, it is strange that it is using alc->pcm rather than alc->flc > transcoding. Have you disable the latter? Yes I disabled the latter but I enabled it in an attempt to get the file to play but it didn't make a difference. I will try to run it in a command prompt and report back to you. -- sxr71 ---- sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63158 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.4 nightlies - important info
JJZolx;423604 Wrote: > I'm still getting nowhere with scanning. I started with a clean server, > no data migration. The designated music folder contains one Windows > shortcut pointing to another folder. Each time I start the server, it > logs that it's initiating a scan, but then there's no further logging in > that regard, no scanner log created, and no isScanning record ever > created in the metainformation table of the SQLite database. > > > Code: > > [09-05-15 12:02:39.9016] main::checkDataSource (923) Warning: Schema updated or no tracks in the database, initiating scan. > [09-05-15 12:02:39.9037] Slim::Schema::Debug::query_start (23) SELECT me.name, me.value FROM metainformation me WHERE ( name = ? ): 'isScanning' > > > > Has anyone else been able to run the Perl code on Windows using > ActivePerl 5.10? No it does not work. AFIAK, only the Linux version can. -- sxr71 ---- sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63346 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New scanner performance - not bad, not great
That tells the story right there. I won't bother with this until MySql support is restored. -- sxr71 sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63421 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New scanner performance - not bad, not great
Not IME. SC doesn't really utilize more than one core when rendering webpages which is the biggest bottleneck I have. So I see a delay in web page build while core core is used 100% and the other is idle. -- sxr71 sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63421 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New scanner performance - not bad, not great
Maybe I'm jumping the gun but this SQLlite thing doesn't seem to be for people with extensive libraries. -- sxr71 ---- sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63421 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New scanner performance - not bad, not great
JJZolx;424563 Wrote: > I doubt that most people will notice any difference. Maybe with > _really_ large libraries they might. Yes, but what exactly are we suffering a performance -decrease- for? Anyway I hope it improves. But I will need to stick with MySQL unless the new SC has a way to support multiple instances. -- sxr71 ---- sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63421 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New scanner performance - not bad, not great
Philip Meyer;424814 Wrote: > >SQLite isn't a separate process, so if you have 10 SqueezeCenters > >running, it's not like you then have 10 database servers running. > > > You do, but they are are embedded in each SC process. With MySQL I could have 10 instances of SC all using the same MySQL install or process. -- sxr71 ---- sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63421 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New scanner performance - not bad, not great
JJZolx;424570 Wrote: > Multiple server instances should work just fine. Easier to set up, in > fact, since you don't have to designate the name of the database or the > username and password in the server.prefs file. As long as each > instance of the server has its own cache folder, there will be a SQLite > database file created for each one in that server's cache. So I would do this again in the Registry under new Srvany processes as I created last time with the same parameters basically (different cache folders of course and different prefs folder)? Do you think it is worth doing? Are there any improvements in other areas that makes it worth it? I would lose Trackstat and that would be a major loss. -- sxr71 ---- sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63421 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Can't get 7.4-26785 to start
Yeah this one is a lost cause on Win 7 also. Simply does not work. 7.3 works though. -- sxr71 sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63922 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Can't get 7.4-26785 to start
Well kind of, that new control panel is the worst. It kills everything. If you go into task manager and kill all instances of it, then you will see the web interface. Otherwise nothing. The concept of the control panel is great, but it needs to be improved. -- sxr71 sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63922 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.4 nightlies - important info
Apparently the words "running" and "complete" are interchanged in the scan info. -- sxr71 ---- sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63346 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.4 nightlies - important info
Anyway the scan is definitely slower than the Trunk version or 7.3. 1:21 for my library. Other than that it seems to run fast after the scan. Must get Trackstat on this ASAP or it's no go for people who run on actual computers. I suppose the end result will be NAS optimized and Computer optimized builds. Also as usual running completely off RAM Disk. -- sxr71 sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63346 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Anyone try SC 26785 on Windows XP yet?
Even 26790 takes 20 minutes to even start now. -- sxr71 sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63942 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Anyone try SC 26785 on Windows XP yet?
dwilliams01;428540 Wrote: > Is that for the control panel app or the actual SC process? I haven't > been home to try the new build yet. > > My understanding, could be outdated, is that the control panel isn't > finished yet so I've been holding off really putting it through its > paces. I always figured that there was some sort of timeout it was > waiting for before becomming visible/saving changes or something. I've > also had a couple of them try and come up at once (maybe the install is > attempting to start one or soemthing?). Before I was installing and > then rebooting to let the service (I run SC as a named account service) > do its thing. I'll have to reconfigure it once with the control panel > because I wiped the install this weekend. > > By the way, since we are on the install topic. I REALLY like that > install doesn't get tripped up on the virus scanner check anymore. It > took several times without it popping up to allow it network access for > me to notice, but when I finally did it was very nice!!! Great Job! I see the SC process run taking anywhere from 5-8% CPU for literally 20 minutes before I see a web interface at all. It's just too weird. Anyway I gave on my foray into this new SC. I might try it again one day, but really I'm more than happy with my 7.4 Trunk. -- sxr71 sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63942 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Problems SQLIte in 7.4 on Server 2003!
JJZolx;429321 Wrote: > Looks like it's saying the SQLite file is corrupted. Try stopping the > server (if it's runnning), deleting the .db files in the cache folder > and the restart SC. > > If you want to run MySQL you can't use the current nightlies of > SqueezeCenter 7.4, as they only support SQLite. You have the following > choices: > > > > > - SC <= 7.3.3 - a nightly build of SC 7.4 prior to the switchover to SQLite - use SVN and checkout the code from the SC 7.4 Trunk (not the SC > 7.4 nowweb-sqlite branch) > > > > > To use the latter, you'll need an SVN client for Windows, such as > TortoiseSVN, and an installation of ActiveState Perl 5.10 and then > you'll run the Perl version of the server instead of the Windows EXE. > Do some searches in the forums and on the Slim Devices wiki if you > want to go that route. Hey, have you managed to run the latest SC 7.4 Trunk on Perl 5.10? Before I noticed that only 5.8 would work. Did this change happen recently? Any changes in performance? -- sxr71 sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64122 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.4 nightlies - important info
bakker_be;429317 Wrote: > There seems to be something wrong with the scanner in 7.4-26820. It sees > about 1000 songs less in my collection??? > I just reinstalled the last MYSQL-version I still had lying around > (26509) and it sees 25627 songs whereas 26820 only sees 24434. I've > returned to the MYSQL-version as this seemed to be generally more > reliable. > This doesn't mean I'm not willing to try out newer versions, but it'll > have to wait until I can set up a parallel system ;) > Bart I too will try out new versions, but I won't switch my main instance unless I see any real performance improvement from the MySQL build. -- sxr71 ---- sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63346 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Syncing is so tight on latest nightly
That's nice to hear. That one feature is often mentioned as a reason to pick Sonos over SB. Anyone asking for tight sync is recommended Sonos over SB. I hope that changes. -- sxr71 sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64140 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LOL! It's "Squeezebox Server" now? Should have just called it "Bing Server"
mherger;430180 Wrote: > > Is there a way of launching this control panel thingie from the Perl > > > source code, or is it compiled to an exe that you only get with an > > installed version of the app? > > On Windows you'll probably have to install wxperl manually (there's a > ppm > repository at http://www.wxperl.co.uk/repository/). Thun just run "perl > > cleanup.pl". > > > Is there anything in it that can't be accessed via the Web UI (is the > > > Web UI all that the control panel is, plus extra stuff, eg. advanced > > > settings)? > > No, the "native" control panel/preference pane/ is a sub set of what is > > available in the web UI. > > -- > > Michael Are there any other benefits we would get by running cleanup.pl? With a name like "cleanup" it's got to something good, right? I assume that if I run it once and uninstall wxperl that the control panel will still work, or is it actually running the control panel? -- sxr71 sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64224 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Running noweb-sqlite branch with ActivePerl
Philip Meyer;435188 Wrote: > >I can see that I have two perl.exe processes running, one constantly > taking 35% CPU. Nothing in the log to indicate any progress though. > > > I waited until the second perl.exe process finished (scanner job done), > then refreshed the web UI. It still showed 0 items in the music > library. I terminated Squeezebox Server and restarted it. > > It's now showing my music library stats, and the results don't look too > far off what I would expect to see (not quite the same, so I'll try to > work out what is different). > > Any ideas why the scanner didn't display the music library in SbS until > it was restarted? That's just how it is. It was like that for me too. No feedback at all during the scan. -- sxr71 ---- sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64890 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Please rename "Beta" to "Alpha" !!!
I really hate to say it but you guys are right. The quality of releases is going down. I am using 7.34 which is just a minor upgrade on the released 7.3 so I can't understand why it has so many problems. Then you have 7.4 which performs worse in every area from scanning to performance and it breaks Trackstat. I loved the SC system for a year but I am close to giving up and just finding something that doesn't require so much effort to maintain. I want music, not a full time job maintaining a system. It's just become very consumer unfriendly now. I mean you can't get Last.FM to work because they screwed up the DNS function on the new FW. What were they thinking? Then they screwed up the MySQL database that always worked with some crap DB now. This system is going to dogs. I'm sorry to be so straightforward about my feelings about this but something has to change if they expect to be successful. I really hope they can make it work, but it seems the latest changes are just flushing years of good work down the toilet. I hate to see this happen. I recommended the product to several friends and hate to see them suffer on account of my advice. -- sxr71 ---- sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65677 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Slow startup of EXE as Windows service?
The system is unbelievably CPU intensive. I mean I have checked CPU use and disk activity using the wonderful Windows 7 resource manager and clearly the system is excessive in CPU usage. I mean on a 1.6Ghz Core Duo laptop which I tweaked to run 100% CPU speed 24/7 so as to not suffer from Intel Speedstep slowdowns it sits and uses 50% CPU (yeah it look very single threaded this program - somebody fix that one day I mean 4 or more cores are becoming the norm) for a good 5-10 seconds. WHY? I mean I run the whole shebang inside a RAM disk and I cache album art. Why it is reading data from my music drive every time I load an album page? It takes so darn long to load even if I reduce the number to 50 items. The fact that it does not cache properly and needs to read the album art from the music disk is simply inexcusable. My entire cache is on RAMDisk and it is still so slow. Beyond that it was much slower when running on a HDD. I wonder how people running this on NAS even find the performance acceptable at all. The program is so badly CPU and disk limited. I am now thinking of building an expensive fast dual core machine just for this program at considerable cost to me. Why I don't just wisen up and switch to another system I don't know. It would save me hundreds of dollars. The only reason I am doing this is just to take pride in having the fastest operating SC I know of. So for this I am planning on getting a Core i7 and O/C to 4Ghz (maybe that will reduce an album page load from 5-10 seconds to 2-4 seconds - which still isn't that fast considering). Then I am going to get 12GB RAM so maybe I can devote 1GB just for this program and then take hours and hours to move all my album art to a separate folder and then put that whole folder on the RAMDisk. Maybe together with all that effort I will finally see album pages loading in 1-2 seconds. Maybe then I can set it to the 200 items per page I want to use. So $800 and hours of work later finally this system will perform DECENTLY. Why I don't just get a Sonos or just get iTunes + remote and run it on a cheap $300 machine with better performance I don't understand sometimes. Maybe I am an idiot. All this over-engineering to get acceptable performance. Something is seriously wrong with the way this system is coded. Performance is unacceptable and 7.4 despite its change of DB and breaking of Trackstat doesn't help one bit. Someone needs to sit down and rewrite this thing from scratch. Just my honest advice. -- sxr71 ---- sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65549 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Music Scan Details in SQLite branch
JJZolx;440420 Wrote: > What was the significance of changing the text displayed in Music Scan > Details during a scan? Why is the first phase no longer 'Directory > scan', which was correct? The text 'Scan new files' seems a bit odd > during a clear/scan, as none of the files are 'new'. > > What happened to the 'Playlist scan' phase? > > Progress tracking is still somewhat screwed up. When you do a new & > changed scan, it doesn't display anything at all for the first phase. > The subsequent phases only show up after each one has completed. > > When you do a clear/rescan, progress for the first phase is tracked, > although it takes a while before it first appears. Yes it has been this way since day one. No indication that anything is happening unless you check task manager and reassure yourself it is working. We can do that, but regular consumers will not. They will always wonder what the heck is going on. -- sxr71 sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65583 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Please rename "Beta" to "Alpha" !!!
Siduhe;441293 Wrote: > But that's the whole point of making the development release (7.4 in > this case) available for testing - new features are introduced, they > break stuff (often in a major way), this gets identified, bugs are > fixed, new features are introduced and so on. > > I've been beta testing the latest development version since about 6.3 > and this has always been the case. The quality of the development > version will always vary from time to time because that's where all the > new stuff gets introduced. I have lost count of the times that > something key to me has broken in the development branch, if it's that > critical I just roll back to an earlier version, if it's not I file a > bug and wait for it to be fixed, but I always recognise I'm not running > a release version and should expect stuff to get broken. My other half, > now that's a different story, but he's very patient... > > I just don't follow the logic of saying that consumer friendliness is > key (which I very much agree with as a general statement) but that it > should apply to the 7.4 branch (or have I misunderstood what you are > saying - if so apologies)? > > Where I do think the OP and others have a good point is about the > Downloads page - the warning that used to be up on the old website about > downloading the latest development version was much clearer - it > specifically noted the warning you get in the forums that features may > be broken as new code is introduced and should be considered as alpha. > I strongly suggest this should be re-introduced in some form, as > currently someone could well download 7.4 without understanding just how > unstable it can be. I am using 7.34 not 7.4. It has been suggested when features are broken in the released 7.3 to try 7.34 and it too has its problems. As for 7.4 I would never use it again until it is release ready and then again probably not unless Trackstat works with it. -- sxr71 sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65677 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Slow startup of EXE as Windows service?
autopilot;441296 Wrote: > Reading that, sounds are you talking about web interface performance? Or > actual performance of the players? > > You could overclock your PC to the cows come home, but web interface > will never be as snappy a native application. Have you looked at Moose? > > > I admit i have seen a few spikes in CPU and memory usage recently, but > this is beta software (very much so at the moment). Generally though i > dont have any performance issues with my very modest server. Maybe I should give Moose a try. iPeng is actually not bad at all. But I know that the album page is very slow to load. I have been tracking performance since the beginning and waiting 10+ seconds for a page of 50 items to load is a bit much. Even when running entirely in RAM. Do you have any idea why it needs to read my music folder when it is caching my artwork? That's an issue right there. It slows things down a lot. I use both the SC performance monitoring and check CPU use via remote desktop. The machine I am using has everything else disabled and services disabled galore. It has 2GB RAM and 1GB free. I noticed that once all album art has been displayed once it then speeds up again but CPU use is still high and it is single threaded. Multithreaded is the way forward. Other interface elements are extremely fast when not loading artists or albums since I am on RAMDisk. But artists and albums for browsing are still slow. -- sxr71 ---- sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65549 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Please rename "Beta" to "Alpha" !!!
iPhone;441864 Wrote: > This is for everybody complaining, what is going on here?! Beta is Beta > is Beta. Any release other then Production is by default Beta and all > bets are off. So 7.4 is very much Beta as its not production and most > times still works properly. It ISN"T meant to be perfect, oh by the way, > that is why it is called Beta, not Production. There are no guarantees > with Beta. Some Nightly Releases can even be completely broken when > released. > > Nobody is forcing anybody to download and use the Beta! If one wants to > participate then do so, if one doesn't want issues, stay with Production > releases. This is why I have a main music server and a Beta Server. I > always have music on the main server because it is running production > only. And if there is some new feature being worked on in Beta that one > just HAS to have, then deal with the issues of Beta testing because > again, it is Beta and is clearly stated that it is not supported by Tech > Support and is available only as a Beta and not a working Production > version. > > More importantly, if one wasn't given access to Beta, then one wouldn't > even know that feature was available and allowed to download and use it > in an effort to debug it. There are so many different systems, routers, > configurations that are possible and the more people that volunteer to > download Beta and use it, the sooner and better the Production Release > will be. Sorry to be so terse but what part of "7.34" did you not read? I went back to 7.33 and its the same story. Oddly, 7.4 fixes some issues with 7.33 like Duet needing an unplug and replug to see the server. -- sxr71 sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65677 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Update on 7.4 vs. 8.0
Just installed this, still scanning. Seems much better than 7.3.4 so far. Let's see. -- sxr71 sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66082 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.4 beta in an unstable, but usable state...
Usable state on which planet? I mean the thing doesn't even show my player nor does it even show any players in the drop down box. So I have no volume control or play/pause control. When I set up a streaming player it doesn't even show since the whole right side of the "default" interface is dead. This is not usable for most humans. Also Trackstat fails to load. I got it to work once, but then it just died with that error. I'm going back to 7.3.4 and I wonder what kind of errors I will find there. I hate to be so negative since I know the developers are really trying and they address issues very fast, so I will patiently wait. -- sxr71 ---- sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67125 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
