[Bibdesk-users] SciFinder Import

2007-08-15 Thread Holger Frauenrath
Hello everybody,

after a number of people here on this list helped me to get started  
with BibDesk a couple of months ago, I have been using it ever since,  
and I am more than happy with it. As I think it is possible that  
software developers more often hear complaints from users about the  
things that don't work, let me take the occasion again to say thank  
you. The way Bibdesk works and feels like is really how bibliography  
management should be!

There is one thing that would make my life much easier though, and  
this is import of SciFinder searches. I have asked for this on this  
list before but I had not had the time myself to follow up on it. I  
would, once again, like to bring it to your attention because  
SciFinder (searching the Chemical Abstracts Database) is one of the  
most important search tools in Chemistry. I currently use Endnote to  
import SciFinder searches and export BibTeX for use in Bibdesk, so a  
direct import to Bibdesk would really be helpful.

I have attached a typical SciFinder result for a journal article at  
the end of this email. Every result starts with START_RECORD and end  
with END_RECORD. As far as I can see, the FIELD keys are always the  
same, in the same order, separated with returns. I don't really know  
(yet) what results of other types of publications (e.g., book  
chapters or patents) look like. I can have a look at it if desired  
but, as a start, I would be very happy with a rudimentary import of  
the relevant fields of only journal articles (which account for 99%  
of the chemical literature anyways).

I can provide you with more information as needed.

If there is nothing that you can (or want to) do about it, that is  
also fine. Otherwise, thank you very much for your efforts.

Best regards
Holger


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START_RECORD
FIELD Copyright:Copyright (C) 2006 ACS on SciFinder (R))
FIELD Database:CAPLUS
FIELD Title:Alternating Diacetylene Copolymer Utilizing  
Perfluorophenyl-Phenyl Interactions.
FIELD Accession Number:AN 2006:302926
FIELD Abstract:The sym. diacetylenes, 2,4-hexadiynylene dibenzoate 4  
and 2,4-hexadiynylene bis(pentafluorobenzoate) 5, as well as the  
unsym. 6-(pentafluorobenzoyloxy)hexa-2,4-diynyl benzoate 6 were  
prepd. and investigated with respect to their reactivity toward  
topochem. polymn. in the cryst. state.  The 1:1 cocrystal 4.5 was  
successfully polymd. to the corresponding poly(diacetylene) copolymer  
7, as evidenced by solid-state 13C NMR and Raman spectroscopy, as  
well as single-crystal structure anal. of the monomer-polymer  
cocrystal.  Thus, perfluorophenyl-Ph interactions were utilized as  
complementary supramol. synthons in the cocrystn. of two different  
diacetylene monomers and their unprecedented conversion into a  
strictly alternating diacetylene copolymer. [on SciFinder (R)]
FIELD Author:Xu, Rui; Gramlich, Volker; Frauenrath, Holger.
FIELD Chemical Abstracts Number(CAN):CAN 144:489005
FIELD Section Code:35-4
FIELD Section Title:Chemistry of Synthetic High Polymers
FIELD CA Section Cross-references:25, 75
FIELD Corporate Source:Department of Materials,Eidgenoessische  
Technische Hochschule Zuerich,Zurich,Switz.
FIELD URL:
FIELD Document Type:Journal
FIELD CODEN:JACSAT
FIELD Internat.Standard Doc. Number:0002-7863
FIELD Journal Title:Journal of the American Chemical Society
FIELD Language:written in English.
FIELD Volume:128
FIELD Issue:16
FIELD Page:5541-5547
FIELD Publication Year:2006
FIELD Publication Date:
FIELD Index Terms:Polymerization(alternating, solid-state; prepn.  
and crystal structure of diacetylenes and of alternating diacetylene  
copolymer utilizing perfluorophenyl-Ph interactions);  
Polydiacetylenes Role: PRP (Properties), SPN (Synthetic preparation),  
PREP (Preparation)(fluorine-contg.; prepn. and crystal structure  
of diacetylenes and of alternating diacetylene copolymer utilizing  
perfluorophenyl-Ph interactions); Fluoropolymers Role: PRP  
(Properties), SPN (Synthetic preparation), PREP (Preparation) 
(polydiacetylene-; prepn. and crystal structure of diacetylenes and  
of alternating diacetylene copolymer utilizing perfluorophenyl-Ph  
interactions); Crystal structure(prepn. and crystal structure of  
diacetylenes and of alternating diacetylene copolymer utilizing  
perfluorophenyl-Ph interactions)
FIELD Index Terms(2):
FIELD CAS Registry Numbers:1725-82-2P (3-Iodoprop-2-yn-1-ol);  
145383-93-3P; 769167-34-2P; 887650-10-4P; 887650-11-5P Role: RCT  
(Reactant), SPN (Synthetic preparation), PREP (Preparation), RACT  
(Reactant or reagent)(intermediate in diacetylene prepn.; prepn.  
and crystal structure of diacetylenes and of alternating diacetylene  
copolymer utilizing perfluorophenyl-Ph interactions); 

[Bibdesk-users] Z39.50 at DDB/DNB (Deutsche Nationalbibliothek)

2007-08-15 Thread Hanjo Iwanowitsch
Ladies and gentlemen,

I would like to import information from DDB (German Bibliography) by  
BibDesk's Search.

For this I use the access described on http://www.d-nb.de/service/zd/ 
z39_50.htm. Target profile is provided on http://www.d-nb.de/eng/ 
service/pdf/ddb-prf2002.pdf.

I filled in this information as follows:

Searches - New Search Group - Type Z39.50 / Server: Other - Name:  
DDB / Database: iltis / Address: z3950.dbf.ddb.de / Port: 210 /  
USername: gast / Password: gast)

I did not manage to get bibliographical information from this source,  
probably because the Encoding (ISO646 or 5426) and Syntax (SUTRS) are  
different from those provided in BibDesk's pop-up-menu. Is there a  
way to change this in coming versions?

Other sources do work properly, for example University of Zuerich.

Any help?

Kind regards,
Hanjo.

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Z39.50 at DDB/DNB (Deutsche Nationalbibliothek)

2007-08-15 Thread Christiaan Hofman
AFAICS, the encoding is no problem. We just don't get any record, and  
we don't use the encoding to download records, only to interpret  
them. Also the syntax should not be a problem, as it should be able  
to return USMARC according to the PDF you link to. So I don't know  
what goes wrong.

Christiaan

On 15 Aug 2007, at 12:41 PM, Hanjo Iwanowitsch wrote:

 Ladies and gentlemen,

 I would like to import information from DDB (German Bibliography) by
 BibDesk's Search.

 For this I use the access described on http://www.d-nb.de/service/zd/
 z39_50.htm. Target profile is provided on http://www.d-nb.de/eng/
 service/pdf/ddb-prf2002.pdf.

 I filled in this information as follows:

 Searches - New Search Group - Type Z39.50 / Server: Other - Name:
 DDB / Database: iltis / Address: z3950.dbf.ddb.de / Port: 210 /
 USername: gast / Password: gast)

 I did not manage to get bibliographical information from this source,
 probably because the Encoding (ISO646 or 5426) and Syntax (SUTRS) are
 different from those provided in BibDesk's pop-up-menu. Is there a
 way to change this in coming versions?

 Other sources do work properly, for example University of Zuerich.

 Any help?

 Kind regards,
 Hanjo.

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Z39.50 at DDB/DNB (Deutsche Nationalbibliothek)

2007-08-15 Thread Simon Spiegel

On 15.08.2007, at 12:41, Hanjo Iwanowitsch wrote:

 Ladies and gentlemen,

 I would like to import information from DDB (German Bibliography) by
 BibDesk's Search.

 For this I use the access described on http://www.d-nb.de/service/zd/
 z39_50.htm. Target profile is provided on http://www.d-nb.de/eng/
 service/pdf/ddb-prf2002.pdf.

 I filled in this information as follows:

 Searches - New Search Group - Type Z39.50 / Server: Other - Name:
 DDB / Database: iltis / Address: z3950.dbf.ddb.de / Port: 210 /
 USername: gast / Password: gast)

 I did not manage to get bibliographical information from this source,
 probably because the Encoding (ISO646 or 5426) and Syntax (SUTRS) are
 different from those provided in BibDesk's pop-up-menu. Is there a
 way to change this in coming versions?

In March, Christiaan wrote the following regarding SUTRS:

 BibDesk cannot parse GRS-1 and SUTRS formats. None of the  
 developers knows
 GRS-1, and SUTRS is not well defined, and otherwise is not designed  
 to be
 machine readable and therefore difficult or impossible to parse  
 reliably.

Unless something has changed here, it doesn't look good for you I'm  
afraid.

simon



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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Z39.50 at DDB/DNB (Deutsche Nationalbibliothek)

2007-08-15 Thread Christiaan Hofman
It seems indeed that DDB only returns SUTRS. And as in Simon's quotes  
from me, that unfortunately ends it.

Christiaan

On 15 Aug 2007, at 1:48 PM, Simon Spiegel wrote:


 On 15.08.2007, at 12:41, Hanjo Iwanowitsch wrote:

 Ladies and gentlemen,

 I would like to import information from DDB (German Bibliography) by
 BibDesk's Search.

 For this I use the access described on http://www.d-nb.de/service/ 
 zd/
 z39_50.htm. Target profile is provided on http://www.d-nb.de/eng/
 service/pdf/ddb-prf2002.pdf.

 I filled in this information as follows:

 Searches - New Search Group - Type Z39.50 / Server: Other - Name:
 DDB / Database: iltis / Address: z3950.dbf.ddb.de / Port: 210 /
 USername: gast / Password: gast)

 I did not manage to get bibliographical information from this source,
 probably because the Encoding (ISO646 or 5426) and Syntax (SUTRS) are
 different from those provided in BibDesk's pop-up-menu. Is there a
 way to change this in coming versions?

 In March, Christiaan wrote the following regarding SUTRS:

 BibDesk cannot parse GRS-1 and SUTRS formats. None of the
 developers knows
 GRS-1, and SUTRS is not well defined, and otherwise is not designed
 to be
 machine readable and therefore difficult or impossible to parse
 reliably.

 Unless something has changed here, it doesn't look good for you I'm
 afraid.

 simon



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 8002 Zürich

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] SciFinder Import

2007-08-15 Thread Adam R. Maxwell
Hello Holger,

On Aug 15, 2007, at 01:30, Holger Frauenrath wrote:

 after a number of people here on this list helped me to get started
 with BibDesk a couple of months ago, I have been using it ever since,
 and I am more than happy with it. As I think it is possible that
 software developers more often hear complaints from users about the
 things that don't work, let me take the occasion again to say thank
 you. The way Bibdesk works and feels like is really how bibliography
 management should be!

Thanks, that's nice to hear!  It's also a good way to preface a  
feature request :).

 There is one thing that would make my life much easier though, and
 this is import of SciFinder searches.

This looks like it would be really easy to parse.  Christiaan, post if  
you start working on it; otherwise I'll take a look at it later  
today.  No point in duplicating effort.

Holger, if you can find a specification of types and field  
descriptions (e.g. does Accession Number map to anything in BibTeX?),  
that would be helpful.  Also, are there any fields that can generally  
be ignored?

In fact, adding to this file

https://bibdesk.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bibdesk/trunk/bibdesk/TypeInfo.plist

would be most helpful, following the general pattern for  
BibTeXFieldNamesForWebOfScienceTags and  
BibTeXTypesForWebOfScienceTypes (for example).  Post back if you have  
questions about the format (it's UTF-8 text).

-- 
Adam


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] SciFinder Import

2007-08-15 Thread Holger Frauenrath
Hi Adam,

 Thanks, that's nice to hear!  It's also a good way to preface a
 feature request :).

Shit! How did you notice? ;-)

 This looks like it would be really easy to parse.  Christiaan, post if
 you start working on it; otherwise I'll take a look at it later
 today.  No point in duplicating effort.

I will probably only be able to take a look at it tomorrow, so maybe  
you want to wait until then.

 Holger, if you can find a specification of types and field
 descriptions (e.g. does Accession Number map to anything in BibTeX?),
 that would be helpful.  Also, are there any fields that can generally
 be ignored?

Well, I would assign the keys that seem useful to BibTeX fields  
according to my personal choice, if that is okay for now.

 In fact, adding to this file

 https://bibdesk.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bibdesk/trunk/bibdesk/ 
 TypeInfo.plist

So, if I understand this correctly: the entries would have to be of  
the form

 BibTeXFieldNamesForSciFinderTags = {
 FIELD Abstract: = Abstract;
 ...
 };

or would one leave away FIELD or : or both?

I can do the other assignments tomorrow morning.

Holger



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Department of Materials
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Switzerland

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] SciFinder Import

2007-08-15 Thread Adam R. Maxwell
Minimal SciFinder support will be in the next nightly build.  We'll need tag 
and type mappings as discussed previously to make it more full-featured, but it 
should be a good start.

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