Re: [Bibdesk-users] what is bibdesk?
On 2007-October-08 , at 18:37 , Maxwell, Adam R wrote: On 10/08/07 09:21, jiho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2007-October-08 , at 18:03 , Simon Spiegel wrote: [...] I also use latex2rtf but simply because there is no real alternative. I also found it has many limitations: - I have found that it does not respect natbib settings for inline citations (at least) Can you provide a sample? I guess I was using an outdated version of latex2rtf (I used the one in MacPorts, with tetex) because I cannot make the svn version fail now. IIRC there was a problem when specifying punctuation other that the default in \bibpunct. latex2rtf used to always output (SomeName, 2000; SomeOtherName, 2004) instead of what was specified in bibpunct. Anyway, that seems fixed now, which is a good thing. - it does not support utf8 coded documents Use the version from latex2rtf project's svn. It supports utf8, and also has some graphics sizing improvements. I see that. I usually rely on utf coded characters for accents only (I try to use latex code for other symbols) and it seems to work fine indeed. That's another great news. - the equations are converted to pictures (in the best cases) Really? One reason I stick with latex2rtf is because it gives editable equations, and doesn't convert them to pictures unless you tell it to. YMMV. Current svn apparently converts latex equations to rtf indeed but, when they get a bit interesting (sums, fractions etc.) I cannot view them in either TextEdit, Pages or even NeoOffice. While thats not surprising for TextEdit and Pages, I would expect NeoOffice to be better. I seems I'll have to install MS Word in the end. Gasp. Thanks for pointing the improvements in the latest version. JiHO --- http://jo.irisson.free.fr/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] what is bibdesk?
On Oct 9, 2007, at 04:07, jiho wrote: On 2007-October-08 , at 18:37 , Maxwell, Adam R wrote: On 10/08/07 09:21, jiho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: latex2rtf used to always output (SomeName, 2000; SomeOtherName, 2004) instead of what was specified in bibpunct. Anyway, that seems fixed now, which is a good thing. I think bibpunct support was added in the last year, but there hadn't been a new version for 2-3 years. - the equations are converted to pictures (in the best cases) Really? One reason I stick with latex2rtf is because it gives editable equations, and doesn't convert them to pictures unless you tell it to. YMMV. Current svn apparently converts latex equations to rtf indeed but, when they get a bit interesting (sums, fractions etc.) I cannot view them in either TextEdit, Pages or even NeoOffice. While thats not surprising for TextEdit and Pages, I would expect NeoOffice to be better. I seems I'll have to install MS Word in the end. Gasp. Word is the only thing that handles equations and figures in RTF correctly IME. Thanks for pointing the improvements in the latest version. No problem...I occasionally submit patches (hence the svn version's usage of sips to convert pdf-png on OS X), so I like to see it used and tested. -- adam - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Modify the exported bibitem command
Thank you for your help. I realise that using the drag and drop bibitem is really easier and nicer than using my inadequate export template. Using an appropriate and modified bst style, I can have exactly what I want for the author format. But I still wondering how can I tune the exported fields. I added the DOI field in the Preference Panes / Default fields / Advanced : Custom BibTex Types and Fields in the optional fields of article but when I right-click on a paper to get the LaTeX command, the DOI field is not in the bibitem output. Is this depending on the bst file I use? I also have a question about the preference panes. In the BibDesk manual (here : http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/manual/BibDesk%20Help_60.html#SEC117 ), for Copying and Dragging there are a default and an alternate formats. In my version of BibDesk (i.e. 1.3.10), I selected the bibitem export as an alternate format and there is a model option with choice between : item1, item2, and item3. Is this a way to tune the bibitem command? (the exported fields). Thank you in advance, Julie 2007/10/9, Christiaan Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] : On 9 Oct 2007, at 6:08 AM, Lilie Lou wrote: Dear BibDesk users, Till now, I was using BibDesk to manage my bibliography database, annotate it, link with the pdf, and this is just great ! Can't remember how I did before??? (the combination with Skim is also great, no need to print all papers : comments in BibDesk and highlights in the paper with Skim). And then, generate the bibliography for a paper. But I am using LaTeX with the thebibliography environment. I would like to be able to choose the fields for the bibitem command. In particular, I added the doi field by default for all my paper cards and I would like to export it in the bibitem command. I also would like the field author to be in this form : McCracken, M., A. Maxwell, C. M. Hofman, S. S. Porst, J. Howison, M. Routley, and S. Spiegel (with firstname of the first author in the lastname, firstname format while other author names are in firstname lastname order). To do that, I created my own tex template for articles : $publications \bibitem[???]{$citeKey/} \textbf{[EMAIL PROTECTED]/} ($fields.Year/). $fields.Title/, \textit{$fields.Journal.stringByRemovingTeX/}, \textbf{$fields.Volume/}[EMAIL PROTECTED]($fields.Number/)/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:$fields.Pages/[EMAIL PROTECTED], doi:$fields.Doi//[EMAIL PROTECTED]. /$publications But the DOI field is just ignored, and I also have a problem for the parameter in the bibitem command (\bibitem[], I can't generate what I want : an author-year citation form ). And I can't export the author names in the format I would like (sure I could do it by hand... but knowing me, this would be a way to generate a lot of mistakes !). Is there a way to solve this? What did I miss? Many thanks in advance and thank you so much to the developers, Julie @nonEmpty is a modifier for a collection (filters out empty fields from a collection), so that should be used in something like [EMAIL PROTECTED]. However fields.Doi is a single field, not a collection, so you should use it in a value tag and/or a condition tag. In your case you should use something like: $fields.Doi?, doi:$fields.Doi//fields.Doi? Similar for Number. Christiaan - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
[Bibdesk-users] request for feature (was Re: BibDesk to Connotea to BibDesk)
Follow-up... would it be possible to have a field in which one could enter a PMID, ASIN, DOI, or ISBN, and have all the relevant fields filled magically? Librarything seems to have something like this, but only for ISBN/books. On 10/9/07, P Kishor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my quest to put up my citations in a place where they can be shared with others, I started exploring Connotea (http://www.connotea.org), an open source online citations manager created by Nature.com and let loose in the wild. Well, I started by importing my BibDesk bib into Connotea. After whirring for about 20 mins, it reported that out of my 98 citations, only 40 had been imported. The primary cause of not importing the bulk of the remaining 58 was missing URI, PMID, ASIN, or DOI. A quick Google-ing explained to me what the heck that meant, and indeed, I didn't have a PubMed Unique Identifier, an Amazon Standard Identification Number, or a Digital Object Identifier let alone a URI from which Connotea could have retrieved the requisite info. I am thankful for BibDesk being lenient and not rejecting my entries, but now I am thinking -- what is it that I can do to make my bibliography more complete, accurate, and reliable. I realize this is not a BibDesk-specific question, but most of you know way more than I do about citations and bibliographies, so I hope you can teach me a few things here. Eventually I want my entire BibDesk to be imported into Connotea (or any other such site that you might suggest as being better) and back again, if required. Many thanks in advance. -- Puneet Kishor http://punkish.eidesis.org/ Nelson Institute for Environmental Studies http://www.nelson.wisc.edu/ Open Source Geospatial Foundation (OSGeo) http://www.osgeo.org/ Summer 2007 ST Policy Fellow, The National Academies http://www.nas.edu/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
[Bibdesk-users] BibDesk to Connotea to BibDesk
In my quest to put up my citations in a place where they can be shared with others, I started exploring Connotea (http://www.connotea.org), an open source online citations manager created by Nature.com and let loose in the wild. Well, I started by importing my BibDesk bib into Connotea. After whirring for about 20 mins, it reported that out of my 98 citations, only 40 had been imported. The primary cause of not importing the bulk of the remaining 58 was missing URI, PMID, ASIN, or DOI. A quick Google-ing explained to me what the heck that meant, and indeed, I didn't have a PubMed Unique Identifier, an Amazon Standard Identification Number, or a Digital Object Identifier let alone a URI from which Connotea could have retrieved the requisite info. I am thankful for BibDesk being lenient and not rejecting my entries, but now I am thinking -- what is it that I can do to make my bibliography more complete, accurate, and reliable. I realize this is not a BibDesk-specific question, but most of you know way more than I do about citations and bibliographies, so I hope you can teach me a few things here. Eventually I want my entire BibDesk to be imported into Connotea (or any other such site that you might suggest as being better) and back again, if required. Many thanks in advance. -- Puneet Kishor http://punkish.eidesis.org/ Nelson Institute for Environmental Studies http://www.nelson.wisc.edu/ Open Source Geospatial Foundation (OSGeo) http://www.osgeo.org/ Summer 2007 ST Policy Fellow, The National Academies http://www.nas.edu/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Citations include Abstract and/or Notes
On 2007-October-09 , at 18:07 , greg kise wrote: I've been using BibDesk for a while and have a problem that I cannot solve. When I preview a citation that has an abstract or a note, the citation includes the abstract or note like this: [1] G. Mason. Homeschool recruiting: Lessons learned on the journey. Journal of College Admission, pages 2–3, 2004. The article provides the author’s experiences in both working with and recruiting homeschoolers. In this context it is advised that admission officers should help students in the same ways a high school counselor would. This process advantages both parties–students learn the in’s and out’s of admission, while admission officers present their institutions as trustworthy to a potential recruit. Because homeschooled students come from intimate environments, it is important that the recruitment techniques colleges use to reach them be personalized. This is really annoying. This also happens when I insert the citation into Lyx. The only way I've been able to solve this problem is to completely delete the Abstract and/or Note, but this seems like overkill. I looked at the offending references in JabRef (because I can see the code) and I don't see anything obviously wrong with the markup. Also I don't know where the problem is coming from, whether it is BibDesk or LaTeX or who knows. Any ideas about how to solve this without deleting my Abstracts? The fact that the (I assume LaTeX) preview shows the abstract or not depend on the BibTeX style selected in the preferences. You can: - select another style and check what suits you - create a new style with makebst (included with you latex distro somewhere in the bibtex part) and explicitly tell it not to include abstract or notes. check the documentation on where to put the new style and rebuild your tex index to make it available - grab a style from a journal you like there: http:// jo.irisson.free.fr/bstdatabase/ JiHO --- http://jo.irisson.free.fr/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Citations include Abstract and/or Notes
On Tuesday, October 09, 2007, at 09:43AM, jiho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2007-October-09 , at 18:07 , greg kise wrote: I've been using BibDesk for a while and have a problem that I cannot solve. When I preview a citation that has an abstract or a note, the citation includes the abstract or note like this: JiHO's answer is probably correct, but are you using the Note field, or BibDesk's Abstract/Annote fields? -- adam - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Citations include Abstract and/or Notes
I'm using BibDesk's Abstract/Annote fields. FYI - I'm collecting my citations with Zotero then exporting them as a Bibtex file and then importing them into BibDesk. The abstracts are coming along with the citations in many cases. JiHO's answer sort of makes sense. I understand just enough about LaTeX to be dangerous to myself and others. I did try some other styles in BibDesk (plainnat, apalike, etc.) and although the citation format changed, the abstract still came along for the ride. Thanks for the help! greg On Oct 9, at Oct 9 | 9:48, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: On Tuesday, October 09, 2007, at 09:43AM, jiho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2007-October-09 , at 18:07 , greg kise wrote: I've been using BibDesk for a while and have a problem that I cannot solve. When I preview a citation that has an abstract or a note, the citation includes the abstract or note like this: JiHO's answer is probably correct, but are you using the Note field, or BibDesk's Abstract/Annote fields? -- adam -- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk to Connotea to BibDesk
On 2007-October-09 , at 18:32 , P Kishor wrote: In my quest to put up my citations in a place where they can be shared with others, I started exploring Connotea (http://www.connotea.org), an open source online citations manager created by Nature.com and let loose in the wild. Well, I started by importing my BibDesk bib into Connotea. After whirring for about 20 mins, it reported that out of my 98 citations, only 40 had been imported. The primary cause of not importing the bulk of the remaining 58 was missing URI, PMID, ASIN, or DOI. A quick Google-ing explained to me what the heck that meant, and indeed, I didn't have a PubMed Unique Identifier, an Amazon Standard Identification Number, or a Digital Object Identifier let alone a URI from which Connotea could have retrieved the requisite info. I am thankful for BibDesk being lenient and not rejecting my entries, but now I am thinking -- what is it that I can do to make my bibliography more complete, accurate, and reliable. I realize this is not a BibDesk-specific question, but most of you know way more than I do about citations and bibliographies, so I hope you can teach me a few things here. Eventually I want my entire BibDesk to be imported into Connotea (or any other such site that you might suggest as being better) and back again, if required. If the idea is to make your bib file public I can suggest: - exporting it in html from bibdesk and posting this on you personal site - exporting your citations to CiteULike. CuL can import BibTeX and will make less changes than what Connotea apparently does. However it will just take the information in your bib file as is, without completing the missing fields (which Connotea might do apparently, since it requires some identifier to fetch the publication information). From CiteULike you can also import citations from web pages or such and export everything back to bibdesk with no loss of information if you stick to the classic bibtex fields. Linking PDFs is a more delicate mater and I don't remember if I found a solution. CiteULike is really nice but two-way communication with BibDesk is still problematic. I would personally love to see this improved. Anyone motivated ;) Last I remember, CuL guys (well guy actually since it is kind of a one man project) were quite open to such ideas. JiHO --- http://jo.irisson.free.fr/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Citations include Abstract and/or Notes
Here you go. Thanks again! @article{mason_homeschool_2004, Abstract = {The article provides the author's experiences in both working with and recruiting homeschoolers. In this context it is advised that admission officers should help students in the same ways a high school counselor would. This process advantages both parties-- students learn the in's and out's of admission, while admission officers present their institutions as trustworthy to a potential recruit. Because homeschooled students come from intimate environments, it is important that the recruitment techniques colleges use to reach them be personalized. }, Author = {Gary Mason}, Date-Added = {2007-10-06 14:28:31 -0700}, Date-Modified = {2007-10-06 14:28:32 -0700}, Issn = {07346670}, Journal = {Journal of College Admission}, Keywords = {COLLEGE admission officers,EDUCATION,EDUCATIONAL counseling,HOME schooling,SCHOOLS,UNIVERSITIES \ colleges -- Admission}, Local-Url = {file://localhost/Users/gregkise/Documents/PDFs/ homeschool%20recruiting.pdf}, Note = {The article provides the author's experiences in both working with and recruiting homeschoolers. In this context it is advised that admission officers should help students in the same ways a high school counselor would. This process advantages both parties-- students learn the in's and out's of admission, while admission officers present their institutions as trustworthy to a potential recruit. Because homeschooled students come from intimate environments, it is important that the recruitment techniques colleges use to reach them be personalized.}, Pages = {2-3}, Title = {Homeschool Recruiting: Lessons Learned on the Journey.}, Url = {http://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true\db=aph \AN=14409098\site=ehost-live}, Year = {2004}} On Oct 9, at Oct 9 | 10:10, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: On Tuesday, October 09, 2007, at 10:06AM, greg kise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using BibDesk's Abstract/Annote fields. FYI - I'm collecting my citations with Zotero then exporting them as a Bibtex file and then importing them into BibDesk. The abstracts are coming along with the citations in many cases. JiHO's answer sort of makes sense. I understand just enough about LaTeX to be dangerous to myself and others. I did try some other styles in BibDesk (plainnat, apalike, etc.) and although the citation format changed, the abstract still came along for the ride. I know apalike doesn't insert abstracts, so this sounds peculiar. Can you post an example as BibTeX here? (Edit-Copy As-BibTeX Record in BibDesk) -- adam -- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Citations include Abstract and/or Notes
On Tuesday, October 09, 2007, at 10:14AM, greg kise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here you go. Thanks again! Okay, that confirms my suspicion: the abstract is included in the Note field (and the Abstract field, which is weird). I think the Note field is always inserted by BibTeX, so it's the wrong place for abstracts and personal notes; it's commonly used as a catch-all for incomplete bib information. Zotero shouldn't do that, but you can clean it up with an AppleScript in BibDesk, or by using the advanced find replace panel to clear out the Note field (be careful with that...). -- adam - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] what is bibdesk? at a tangent
We might take a look at http://thedata.org/citation and http:// gking.harvard.edu/files/cite.pdf These try to take a look at linking to the thing itself rather than a location for the thing. -N On 9 Oct 2007, at 11:47 AM, Jason Davies wrote: incidentally, is there an 'accepted' way to link to things like podcasts (yet)? As more and more become legitimate sources (prestigious speakers and stable access), is anyone thinking about how to cite them? In the meantime, does anyone have any sugestions (eg can we get a unique link to use in BibDesk that will open a podcast? I know that you can be taken to a particular podcast on the web, but what about when you have it? just the usual local-file route to open iTunes? can we jump to a particular moment to hear a quote?) I realise the last is very unrealistic (currently) but this is becoming an issue for me in my work (chiefly when i do Education materials). -- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users -- Nathan A. Paxton Ph.D. Candidate Dept. of Government, Harvard University Resident Tutor John Winthrop House, Harvard University napaxton AT fas DOT harvard DOT edu http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~napaxton === When you have to stay eight years away from California, you live in a perpetual state of homesickness. - Ronald Reagan The most courageous act is still to think for yourself. Aloud. -Coco Chanel === - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Citations include Abstract and/or Notes
That solved the problem! Thank you very much. It's been driving me crazy for months. -g On Oct 9, at Oct 9 | 10:20, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: On Tuesday, October 09, 2007, at 10:14AM, greg kise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here you go. Thanks again! Okay, that confirms my suspicion: the abstract is included in the Note field (and the Abstract field, which is weird). I think the Note field is always inserted by BibTeX, so it's the wrong place for abstracts and personal notes; it's commonly used as a catch-all for incomplete bib information. Zotero shouldn't do that, but you can clean it up with an AppleScript in BibDesk, or by using the advanced find replace panel to clear out the Note field (be careful with that...). -- adam -- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] what is bibdesk?
On 10/9/07 7:20 AM, Bruce Pourciau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 7, 2007, at 9:47 PM, Ingrid Giffin wrote: I tried looking at MacTex (I think it was), but I really don¹t need the heavy typesetting capabilities. I ran screaming to Mellel. I use BibDesk for my master publications database because the interface is so nice, although, as I said in another post, I have to use Bookends in between BibDesk and Mellel. Those who do need the typesetting and cross-referencing abilities of LaTeX, but who have run screaming from its complication and coding requirements, might want to look at LyX (http://www.lyx.org/), which is a word processor front end to LaTeX. You work in LyX as you would in any word processor, but when you wish to view the finished product, LyX calls up TeX and has it typeset your document. I use LyX with Bibdesk. Bruce The idea sounds good, but the LyX page lists several other required packages. Of the first two, Qt and Xforms, Qt costs several hundred dollars and the Xforms web site is dead. This doesn't look promising. --Ingrid - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] what is bibdesk? at a tangent
Doesn't a custom Local File field work, when you have set iTunes as the system default for opening podcasts? I was thinking more about referencing for publication and dissemination... - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] what is bibdesk?
On 2007-October-09 , at 19:39 , Ingrid Giffin wrote: On 10/9/07 7:20 AM, Bruce Pourciau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 7, 2007, at 9:47 PM, Ingrid Giffin wrote: I tried looking at MacTex (I think it was), but I really don’t need the heavy typesetting capabilities. I ran screaming to Mellel. I use BibDesk for my master publications database because the interface is so nice, although, as I said in another post, I have to use Bookends in between BibDesk and Mellel. Those who do need the typesetting and cross-referencing abilities of LaTeX, but who have run screaming from its complication and coding requirements, might want to look at LyX (http://www.lyx.org/), which is a word processor front end to LaTeX. You work in LyX as you would in any word processor, but when you wish to view the finished product, LyX calls up TeX and has it typeset your document. I use LyX with Bibdesk. The idea sounds good, but the LyX page lists several other required packages. Of the first two, Qt and Xforms, Qt costs several hundred dollars and the Xforms web site is dead. This doesn't look promising No no lyx works out of the box on os x (provided you have a TeX system of course). Just download the dmg and install everything: ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.5.2 JiHO --- http://jo.irisson.free.fr/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] request for feature (was Re: BibDesk to Connotea to BibDesk)
When I import from PubMed using the BibDesk command, the PMID field is added appropriately (same as the DOI if memory serves). I have no knowledge of an Import from Amazon function. Why not use citeulike instead? It seems more flexible and more evolutive. Here's an old idea of workflow I had about BibDesk and CiteULike: http://phnk.com/blog/tech/citeulike-and-bibdesk/ Fr. On 09/10/2007, P Kishor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Follow-up... would it be possible to have a field in which one could enter a PMID, ASIN, DOI, or ISBN, and have all the relevant fields filled magically? Librarything seems to have something like this, but only for ISBN/books. On 10/9/07, P Kishor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my quest to put up my citations in a place where they can be shared with others, I started exploring Connotea (http://www.connotea.org), an open source online citations manager created by Nature.com and let loose in the wild. Well, I started by importing my BibDesk bib into Connotea. After whirring for about 20 mins, it reported that out of my 98 citations, only 40 had been imported. The primary cause of not importing the bulk of the remaining 58 was missing URI, PMID, ASIN, or DOI. A quick Google-ing explained to me what the heck that meant, and indeed, I didn't have a PubMed Unique Identifier, an Amazon Standard Identification Number, or a Digital Object Identifier let alone a URI from which Connotea could have retrieved the requisite info. I am thankful for BibDesk being lenient and not rejecting my entries, but now I am thinking -- what is it that I can do to make my bibliography more complete, accurate, and reliable. I realize this is not a BibDesk-specific question, but most of you know way more than I do about citations and bibliographies, so I hope you can teach me a few things here. Eventually I want my entire BibDesk to be imported into Connotea (or any other such site that you might suggest as being better) and back again, if required. Many thanks in advance. -- Puneet Kishor http://punkish.eidesis.org/ Nelson Institute for Environmental Studies http://www.nelson.wisc.edu/ Open Source Geospatial Foundation (OSGeo) http://www.osgeo.org/ Summer 2007 ST Policy Fellow, The National Academies http://www.nas.edu/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] request for feature (was Re: BibDesk to Connotea to BibDesk)
Thanks for the advice. I am now trying citeulike as suggested, but not very successful at this as well. I am getting a lot of errors like so, and then nothing is imported -- Didn't quite work.. I got this error when I tried to parse your file This is BibTeX, Version 0.99c (Web2C 7.5.4) The top-level auxiliary file: /tmp/fileEQXFEZ.aux The style file: citeulike.bst Database file #1: fileEQXFEZ.bib Warning--entry type for Manso:2007aa isn't style-file defined --line 149 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib Warning--entry type for Stiglitz:2005aa isn't style-file defined --line 272 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib Your field is more than 5000 characters---line 433 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib : The great irony is that the U.S. economy in its early years was built in large part on a lax attitude toward intellectual-property rights and enforcement. As the historian Doron Ben-Atar shows in his book Trade Secrets, the Founders believed that a strict attitude toward patents and copyright would limit dom : estic innovation and make it harder for the U.S. to expand its industrial base. American law did not protect the rights of foreign inventors or writers, and Secretary of the Treasury Alexander Hamilton, in his famous Report on Manufactures, of 1791, actively advocated the theft of technology and the luring of skilled workers from foreign countries. Among the beneficiaries of this was the American textile industry, which flourished thanks to pirated technology. Free-trade agreements that export our own restrictive I.P. laws may make the world safe for Pfizer, Microsoft, and Disney, but they don't deserve the name free trade.}, I'm skipping whatever remains of this entry Your field is more than 5000 characters---line 550 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib : I have no problem with an individual who faces unusual threats from publication of her identity or identifying details being able under the law to seek special exception from openness, said Rebecca Daugherty, the director of the Freedo : m of Information Service Center for the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press in Virginia. But the secrecy should be the exception, she said, not the rule. I'm skipping whatever remains of this entry Your field is more than 5000 characters---line 727 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib : policies far exceed any revenues that might be generated through co : st recovery policies; I'm skipping whatever remains of this entry Your field is more than 5000 characters---line 899 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib : data and analyzed several different potential legislative models for database prote : ction in the United States from I'm skipping whatever remains of this entry Warning--entry type for Harkins:aa isn't style-file defined --line 999 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib Warning--entry type for Shapiro:aa isn't style-file defined --line 1007 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib Warning--entry type for Pareles:aa isn't style-file defined --line 1037 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib Warning--entry type for Friedman:aa isn't style-file defined --line 1056 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib Warning--entry type for Bonaccorsi:aa isn't style-file defined --line 1065 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib Warning--entry type for Schroer:2007aa isn't style-file defined --line 1084 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib Warning--entry type for Friedman:2007aa isn't style-file defined --line 1122 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib Warning--entry type for Raymond:2000aa isn't style-file defined --line 1145 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib Warning--entry type for Coase:aa isn't style-file defined --line 1155 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib Warning--entry type for Torkington:aa isn't style-file defined --line 1198 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib Warning--entry type for Jobs:2007aa isn't style-file defined --line 1241 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib Warning--entry type for Wheeler:aa isn't style-file defined --line 1342 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib Warning--entry type for Rifkin:aa isn't style-file defined --line 1419 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib Your field is more than 5000 characters---line 1498 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib : [One of the marks of a great class is, in m :y view, identifying at least one view-changing text. In the last edition of this class last semester, for me, it was Schumpeter's Creative Destruction. This time around, it is not Thornton directly, but a work that Thornton rerferences with great and justified reverence -- Max Weber's 1904 treatise on Die protestantische Ethik und der 'Geist' des Kapitalismus or The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism. I got the book today and feel a bit defeated by its density, but do intend to slog through it to the extent I can. Hopefully he writes as well as our friend Schumpeter.]}, I'm skipping whatever remains of this entry Your field is more than 5000 characters---line 1555 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib : My first thoughts concerning this paper are related the fact that this is among the first social science papers that I have ever read. I was
Re: [Bibdesk-users] request for feature (was Re: BibDesk to Connotea to BibDesk)
Sorry, what do you mean by 'my' file? Also, warnings are normal, especially if you forget to mention the authors or use unconventional types. On 09/10/2007, P Kishor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the advice. I am now trying citeulike as suggested, but not very successful at this as well. I am getting a lot of errors like so, and then nothing is imported -- Didn't quite work.. I got this error when I tried to parse your file This is BibTeX, Version 0.99c (Web2C 7.5.4) The top-level auxiliary file: /tmp/fileEQXFEZ.aux The style file: citeulike.bst Database file #1: fileEQXFEZ.bib Warning--entry type for Manso:2007aa isn't style-file defined --line 149 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib Warning--entry type for Stiglitz:2005aa isn't style-file defined --line 272 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib Your field is more than 5000 characters---line 433 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib : The great irony is that the U.S. economy in its early years was built in large part on a lax attitude toward intellectual-property rights and enforcement. As the historian Doron Ben-Atar shows in his book Trade Secrets, the Founders believed that a strict attitude toward patents and copyright would limit dom : estic innovation and make it harder for the U.S. to expand its industrial base. American law did not protect the rights of foreign inventors or writers, and Secretary of the Treasury Alexander Hamilton, in his famous Report on Manufactures, of 1791, actively advocated the theft of technology and the luring of skilled workers from foreign countries. Among the beneficiaries of this was the American textile industry, which flourished thanks to pirated technology. Free-trade agreements that export our own restrictive I.P. laws may make the world safe for Pfizer, Microsoft, and Disney, but they don't deserve the name free trade.}, I'm skipping whatever remains of this entry Your field is more than 5000 characters---line 550 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib : I have no problem with an individual who faces unusual threats from publication of her identity or identifying details being able under the law to seek special exception from openness, said Rebecca Daugherty, the director of the Freedo : m of Information Service Center for the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press in Virginia. But the secrecy should be the exception, she said, not the rule. I'm skipping whatever remains of this entry Your field is more than 5000 characters---line 727 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib : policies far exceed any revenues that might be generated through co : st recovery policies; I'm skipping whatever remains of this entry Your field is more than 5000 characters---line 899 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib : data and analyzed several different potential legislative models for database prote : ction in the United States from I'm skipping whatever remains of this entry Warning--entry type for Harkins:aa isn't style-file defined --line 999 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib Warning--entry type for Shapiro:aa isn't style-file defined --line 1007 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib Warning--entry type for Pareles:aa isn't style-file defined --line 1037 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib Warning--entry type for Friedman:aa isn't style-file defined --line 1056 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib Warning--entry type for Bonaccorsi:aa isn't style-file defined --line 1065 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib Warning--entry type for Schroer:2007aa isn't style-file defined --line 1084 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib Warning--entry type for Friedman:2007aa isn't style-file defined --line 1122 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib Warning--entry type for Raymond:2000aa isn't style-file defined --line 1145 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib Warning--entry type for Coase:aa isn't style-file defined --line 1155 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib Warning--entry type for Torkington:aa isn't style-file defined --line 1198 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib Warning--entry type for Jobs:2007aa isn't style-file defined --line 1241 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib Warning--entry type for Wheeler:aa isn't style-file defined --line 1342 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib Warning--entry type for Rifkin:aa isn't style-file defined --line 1419 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib Your field is more than 5000 characters---line 1498 of file fileEQXFEZ.bib : [One of the marks of a great class is, in m :y view, identifying at least one view-changing text. In the last edition of this class last semester, for me, it was Schumpeter's Creative Destruction. This time around, it is not Thornton directly, but a work that Thornton rerferences with great and justified reverence -- Max Weber's 1904 treatise on Die protestantische Ethik und der 'Geist' des Kapitalismus or The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism. I got the book today and feel a bit defeated by its density, but do intend to slog through it to the extent I can. Hopefully he writes as well as our
Re: [Bibdesk-users] request for feature (was Re: BibDesk to Connotea to BibDesk)
On 10/9/07, François Briatte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I import from PubMed using the BibDesk command, the PMID field is added appropriately (same as the DOI if memory serves). I have no knowledge of an Import from Amazon function. Why not use citeulike instead? It seems more flexible and more evolutive. Here's an old idea of workflow I had about BibDesk and CiteULike: http://phnk.com/blog/tech/citeulike-and-bibdesk/ François, you might be interested in recent changes to the 'web group' functionality. We have added an easier method of importing items into BibDesk from citeulike, which is an extension of the feature I wrote about here: http://michael-mccracken.net/wp/2007/01/26/bibdesk-and-the-hcite-microformat/ It is available in current nightly builds, if you are feeling adventurous. :) -mike Fr. On 09/10/2007, P Kishor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Follow-up... would it be possible to have a field in which one could enter a PMID, ASIN, DOI, or ISBN, and have all the relevant fields filled magically? Librarything seems to have something like this, but only for ISBN/books. On 10/9/07, P Kishor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my quest to put up my citations in a place where they can be shared with others, I started exploring Connotea (http://www.connotea.org), an open source online citations manager created by Nature.com and let loose in the wild. Well, I started by importing my BibDesk bib into Connotea. After whirring for about 20 mins, it reported that out of my 98 citations, only 40 had been imported. The primary cause of not importing the bulk of the remaining 58 was missing URI, PMID, ASIN, or DOI. A quick Google-ing explained to me what the heck that meant, and indeed, I didn't have a PubMed Unique Identifier, an Amazon Standard Identification Number, or a Digital Object Identifier let alone a URI from which Connotea could have retrieved the requisite info. I am thankful for BibDesk being lenient and not rejecting my entries, but now I am thinking -- what is it that I can do to make my bibliography more complete, accurate, and reliable. I realize this is not a BibDesk-specific question, but most of you know way more than I do about citations and bibliographies, so I hope you can teach me a few things here. Eventually I want my entire BibDesk to be imported into Connotea (or any other such site that you might suggest as being better) and back again, if required. Many thanks in advance. -- Puneet Kishor http://punkish.eidesis.org/ Nelson Institute for Environmental Studies http://www.nelson.wisc.edu/ Open Source Geospatial Foundation (OSGeo) http://www.osgeo.org/ Summer 2007 ST Policy Fellow, The National Academies http://www.nas.edu/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users -- Michael McCracken UCSD CSE PhD Candidate research: http://www.cse.ucsd.edu/~mmccrack/ misc: http://michael-mccracken.net/wp/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Modify the exported bibitem command
I am testing several bst file to get exactly what I want and it seems to work! It's really easy and nice, Thank you very much! Julie 2007/10/9, Christiaan Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes, this depends entirely on the .bst file you use. The fields and types defined in the bibdesk preferences are nothing but a hint to the user, they have absolutely no influence on bibtex output. It is just that the default settings correspond to what the standard bibtex styles expect. The choice for the Modèle popup you see is a bug in the French localization, it should be similar to the Modèle popup for the default drag/copy type. Thanks for notifying us, it's just been fixed (will be included in tomorrows nightly build). Christiaan On 9 Oct 2007, at 5:37 PM, Julie Lou wrote: Thank you for your help. I realise that using the drag and drop bibitem is really easier and nicer than using my inadequate export template. Using an appropriate and modified bst style, I can have exactly what I want for the author format. But I still wondering how can I tune the exported fields. I added the DOI field in the Preference Panes / Default fields / Advanced : Custom BibTex Types and Fields in the optional fields of article but when I right-click on a paper to get the LaTeX command, the DOI field is not in the bibitem output. Is this depending on the bst file I use? I also have a question about the preference panes. In the BibDesk manual (here : http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/manual/BibDesk%20Help_60.html#SEC117 ), for Copying and Dragging there are a default and an alternate formats. In my version of BibDesk (i.e. 1.3.10), I selected the bibitem export as an alternate format and there is a model option with choice between : item1, item2, and item3. Is this a way to tune the bibitem command? (the exported fields). Thank you in advance, Julie 2007/10/9, Christiaan Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] : On 9 Oct 2007, at 6:08 AM, Lilie Lou wrote: Dear BibDesk users, Till now, I was using BibDesk to manage my bibliography database, annotate it, link with the pdf, and this is just great ! Can't remember how I did before??? (the combination with Skim is also great, no need to print all papers : comments in BibDesk and highlights in the paper with Skim). And then, generate the bibliography for a paper. But I am using LaTeX with the thebibliography environment. I would like to be able to choose the fields for the bibitem command. In particular, I added the doi field by default for all my paper cards and I would like to export it in the bibitem command. I also would like the field author to be in this form : McCracken, M., A. Maxwell, C. M. Hofman, S. S. Porst, J. Howison, M. Routley, and S. Spiegel (with firstname of the first author in the lastname, firstname format while other author names are in firstname lastname order). To do that, I created my own tex template for articles : $publications \bibitem[???]{$citeKey/} \textbf{[EMAIL PROTECTED]/} ($fields.Year/). $fields.Title/, \textit{$fields.Journal.stringByRemovingTeX/}, \textbf{$fields.Volume/}[EMAIL PROTECTED]($fields.Number/)/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:$fields.Pages/[EMAIL PROTECTED], doi:$fields.Doi//[EMAIL PROTECTED]. /$publications But the DOI field is just ignored, and I also have a problem for the parameter in the bibitem command (\bibitem[], I can't generate what I want : an author-year citation form ). And I can't export the author names in the format I would like (sure I could do it by hand... but knowing me, this would be a way to generate a lot of mistakes !). Is there a way to solve this? What did I miss? Many thanks in advance and thank you so much to the developers, Julie @nonEmpty is a modifier for a collection (filters out empty fields from a collection), so that should be used in something like [EMAIL PROTECTED]. However fields.Doi is a single field, not a collection, so you should use it in a value tag and/or a condition tag. In your case you should use something like: $fields.Doi?, doi:$fields.Doi//fields.Doi? Similar for Number. Christiaan - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now
Re: [Bibdesk-users] request for feature (was Re: BibDesk to Connotea to BibDesk)
On 2007-October-09 , at 22:02 , P Kishor wrote: On 10/9/07, François Briatte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, what do you mean by 'my' file? I am not sure what you mean by that question. I am looking at my response and I don't see any reference to my file. I said specifically (quoting myself) -- The error message from CiteULike starts by: I got this error when I tried to parse your file In this case your file is the file from P Kishor he is trying to import. Thanks for the advice. I am now trying citeulike as suggested, but not very successful at this as well. I am getting a lot of errors like so, and then nothing is imported -- everything else is errors reported by CituULike. Also, warnings are normal, especially if you forget to mention the authors or use unconventional types. Yes, I would think so, no? Except, nothing gets imported. My CituULike library is empty. Seems like I am using unconventional types except I am not quite sure what convention to apply to the ones that are erroneous as reported by CiteULike. Besides, as you yourself said, CiteULike should import at least the others (I have around 100 entries, and less than 20 show up in the CiteULike's import error log). But, nothing is imported. I suspect it to be caused by your citekey format. I am not sure CuL can deal with the colon ( : ) in the citekey. Given the error message (lots of colons inside) I guess CuL breaks citekeys at colons and trys to read the rest as a field, until the next colon. Try with another citekey format. The colons there are not very safe anyway. JiHO --- http://jo.irisson.free.fr/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] request for feature (was Re: BibDesk to Connotea to BibDesk)
On 10/9/07, jiho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2007-October-09 , at 22:02 , P Kishor wrote: On 10/9/07, François Briatte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, what do you mean by 'my' file? I am not sure what you mean by that question. I am looking at my response and I don't see any reference to my file. I said specifically (quoting myself) -- The error message from CiteULike starts by: I got this error when I tried to parse your file In this case your file is the file from P Kishor he is trying to import. Thanks for the advice. I am now trying citeulike as suggested, but not very successful at this as well. I am getting a lot of errors like so, and then nothing is imported -- everything else is errors reported by CituULike. Also, warnings are normal, especially if you forget to mention the authors or use unconventional types. Yes, I would think so, no? Except, nothing gets imported. My CituULike library is empty. Seems like I am using unconventional types except I am not quite sure what convention to apply to the ones that are erroneous as reported by CiteULike. Besides, as you yourself said, CiteULike should import at least the others (I have around 100 entries, and less than 20 show up in the CiteULike's import error log). But, nothing is imported. I suspect it to be caused by your citekey format. I am not sure CuL can deal with the colon ( : ) in the citekey. Given the error message (lots of colons inside) I guess CuL breaks citekeys at colons and trys to read the rest as a field, until the next colon. Try with another citekey format. The colons there are not very safe anyway. yikes! Thanks for the tip... will try it. I didn't make up that citekey format... that is what I got from BibDesk out of the box. Anyway, will tinker with that and hopefully will be able to report success. -- Puneet Kishor http://punkish.eidesis.org/ Nelson Institute for Environmental Studies http://www.nelson.wisc.edu/ Open Source Geospatial Foundation (OSGeo) http://www.osgeo.org/ Summer 2007 ST Policy Fellow, The National Academies http://www.nas.edu/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] request for feature (was Re: BibDesk to Connotea to BibDesk)
On 10/9/07, P Kishor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/9/07, jiho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2007-October-09 , at 22:02 , P Kishor wrote: .. Yes, I would think so, no? Except, nothing gets imported. My CituULike library is empty. Seems like I am using unconventional types except I am not quite sure what convention to apply to the ones that are erroneous as reported by CiteULike. Besides, as you yourself said, CiteULike should import at least the others (I have around 100 entries, and less than 20 show up in the CiteULike's import error log). But, nothing is imported. I suspect it to be caused by your citekey format. I am not sure CuL can deal with the colon ( : ) in the citekey. Given the error message (lots of colons inside) I guess CuL breaks citekeys at colons and trys to read the rest as a field, until the next colon. Try with another citekey format. The colons there are not very safe anyway. yikes! Thanks for the tip... will try it. I didn't make up that citekey format... that is what I got from BibDesk out of the box. Anyway, will tinker with that and hopefully will be able to report success. shucks. No luck still. Same kind of error message (see below) and then nothing imported. How frustrating... Didn't quite work.. I got this error when I tried to parse your file This is BibTeX, Version 0.99c (Web2C 7.5.4) The top-level auxiliary file: /tmp/filetqIqt0.aux The style file: citeulike.bst Database file #1: filetqIqt0.bib Warning--entry type for Manso_2007_aa isn't style-file defined --line 149 of file filetqIqt0.bib Warning--entry type for Stiglitz__ab isn't style-file defined --line 272 of file filetqIqt0.bib Your field is more than 5000 characters---line 433 of file filetqIqt0.bib : The great irony is that the U.S. economy in its early years was built in large part on a lax attitude toward intellectual-property rights and enforcement. As the historian Doron Ben-Atar shows in his book Trade Secrets, the Founders believed that a strict attitude toward patents and copyright would limit dom : estic innovation and make it harder for the U.S. to expand its industrial base. American law did not protect the rights of foreign inventors or writers, and Secretary of the Treasury Alexander Hamilton, in his famous Report on Manufactures, of 1791, actively advocated the theft of technology and the luring of skilled workers from foreign countries. Among the beneficiaries of this was the American textile industry, which flourished thanks to pirated technology. Free-trade agreements that export our own restrictive I.P. laws may make the world safe for Pfizer, Microsoft, and Disney, but they don't deserve the name free trade.}, I'm skipping whatever remains of this entry Your field is more than 5000 characters---line 550 of file filetqIqt0.bib : I have no problem with an individual who faces unusual threats from publication of her identity or identifying details being able under the law to seek special exception from openness, said Rebecca Daugherty, the director of the Freedo : m of Information Service Center for the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press in Virginia. But the secrecy should be the exception, she said, not the rule. I'm skipping whatever remains of this entry Your field is more than 5000 characters---line 727 of file filetqIqt0.bib : policies far exceed any revenues that might be generated through co : st recovery policies; I'm skipping whatever remains of this entry Your field is more than 5000 characters---line 899 of file filetqIqt0.bib : data and analyzed several different potential legislative models for database prote : ction in the United States from I'm skipping whatever remains of this entry Warning--entry type for Harkins__aa isn't style-file defined --line 999 of file filetqIqt0.bib Warning--entry type for Shapiro__aa isn't style-file defined --line 1007 of file filetqIqt0.bib Warning--entry type for Pareles__aa isn't style-file defined --line 1037 of file filetqIqt0.bib Warning--entry type for Friedman__aa isn't style-file defined --line 1056 of file filetqIqt0.bib Warning--entry type for Bonaccorsi__aa isn't style-file defined --line 1065 of file filetqIqt0.bib Warning--entry type for Schroer_2007_aa isn't style-file defined --line 1084 of file filetqIqt0.bib Warning--entry type for Friedman_2007_aa isn't style-file defined --line 1122 of file filetqIqt0.bib Warning--entry type for Raymond_2000_aa isn't style-file defined --line 1145 of file filetqIqt0.bib Warning--entry type for Coase__aa isn't style-file defined --line 1155 of file filetqIqt0.bib Warning--entry type for Torkington__aa isn't style-file defined --line 1198 of file filetqIqt0.bib Warning--entry type for Jobs_2007_aa isn't style-file defined --line 1241 of file filetqIqt0.bib Warning--entry type for Wheeler__aa isn't style-file defined --line 1342 of file filetqIqt0.bib