[Bibdesk-users] Ideas for quotations manager?
I have tried a couple of ideas for storing quoted material, but haven't hit on the right thing yet. One was a software package called something like Citations (?), but it was heavily crash-prone. The ideal thing would be linked or linkable to BibDesk, so that each quotation would retain a link to the full citation without having to store the full citation. The quotations would be sortable, groupable, and searchable independent of their BibDesk entries. Conceptually, it would be like a separate database table with a many-to-one relation from several quotes to one BibDesk entry. Does anyone know of a system anything like this? Or have any ideas for something that could be customized to link to BibDesk? --Ingrid - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] web group problems
On Nov 3, 2007, at 7:21 PM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: > starting a new thread > > On Nov 3, 2007, at 4:06 PM, Adam M.Goldstein wrote: > >> Next question: I do a search, and I am looking at a google scholar >> search page in the upper part of the window, and the scraped-off >> bibtex records in the bottom part. Then, I go to the next page of the >> search by selecting the "2" at the bottom of the page for page 2 of >> the search. But the BibTeX at the bottom of the window stays the >> same. >> How do I get the new references on page 2? > > What do you mean by "BibTeX"? I see the usual publications table and > whatever preview I've selected. The new references should be > automatically loaded up, and they are in my test here. OK, yes, sorry, what I meant was: the records represented on the table view, which must be well-formed BibTeX records to be loaded up there. > > >> I notice that it takes a really long time (30 secs or so at least) to >> load up the second page; the reload arrow to the right of the url >> field is an "X" for a while. Does this reflect BibDesk's scraping >> action, and is maybe why the new references aren't appearing? > > There's also a spinner in the group table. How many results are you > showing at once? With 10 results per page here, the next page loads > almost instantaneously. > I am showing 10 at once only. I'm not seeing the near instantaneous loading you see. Off list I will send you a screen shot. You'll see that the web page showing in the upper pane does not match the table in the bottom pane. Maybe this is in response to bad references, the bug you refer to in later in the thread. Quitting BD and restarting doesn't have any effect on this. I do see the spinner in the table, as well. >> Another suggestion: Can there be web groups in the same way that >> there >> are Z30.50 search groups? Instead of entering a url into the field, I >> enter a search key in google scholar; then the url shows up and I >> pick >> up references by moving around through the pages. > > Right now there's a single web group, and I don't know if this would > be possible; I think it would require crafting the URLs for each site > (if I understand what you're asking). There are still some UI > questions open on this feature, too. > > Yes, I understand---here is what I was thinking. Current process: (1) Go to web browser, conduct a google scholar search. (2) Copy URL into field in BD, get the page loaded up, and watch the references table become populated with bib records. (3) Navigate to successive pages and get more references. Suggested change in interface, guts, and process: (1*) Open a google scholar search field in BD and enter the search keys. (2*) BD sends the search to google scholar, and loads the URL in the URL field (In lieu of (2) above. (3*) As (3) above. Suggested model for UI: the url and search fields on safari. A small search field next to a longer url field. The search key is entered into the search field and the url loads up in response. A drop-down in the search field allows someone to choose which of the available web searches is to be conducted (google scholar and whatever the other two are, that I forget). = Adam M. Goldstein PhD Assistant Professor of Philosophy Iona College -- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web:http://www.iona.edu/faculty/agoldstein/ tel:(914) 637-2717 post: Iona College Department of Philosophy 715 North Avenue New Rochelle, NY 10801 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] web group problems
On 11/3/07, Adam R. Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Nov 3, 2007, at 4:21 PM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: > > > starting a new thread > > > > On Nov 3, 2007, at 4:06 PM, Adam M.Goldstein wrote: > > > >> Next question: I do a search, and I am looking at a google scholar > >> search page in the upper part of the window, and the scraped-off > >> bibtex records in the bottom part. Then, I go to the next page of the > >> search by selecting the "2" at the bottom of the page for page 2 of > >> the search. But the BibTeX at the bottom of the window stays the > >> same. > >> How do I get the new references on page 2? > > > > What do you mean by "BibTeX"? I see the usual publications table and > > whatever preview I've selected. The new references should be > > automatically loaded up, and they are in my test here. > > The Google Scholar scraper would fail to load an entire page if it > encountered a single bad reference, but this should be fixed for the > next nightly build. Hopefully that fixes the random load failures > we've seen with it. The web group, now works here. I had to quit and restart BibDesk but it now works perfectly. Google scholar loads quickly and changes the references here. Thanks for the quick response. I'll download the next nightly and continue testing. Peter - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] web group problems
On Nov 3, 2007, at 4:21 PM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: > starting a new thread > > On Nov 3, 2007, at 4:06 PM, Adam M.Goldstein wrote: > >> Next question: I do a search, and I am looking at a google scholar >> search page in the upper part of the window, and the scraped-off >> bibtex records in the bottom part. Then, I go to the next page of the >> search by selecting the "2" at the bottom of the page for page 2 of >> the search. But the BibTeX at the bottom of the window stays the >> same. >> How do I get the new references on page 2? > > What do you mean by "BibTeX"? I see the usual publications table and > whatever preview I've selected. The new references should be > automatically loaded up, and they are in my test here. The Google Scholar scraper would fail to load an entire page if it encountered a single bad reference, but this should be fixed for the next nightly build. Hopefully that fixes the random load failures we've seen with it. -- adam - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
[Bibdesk-users] web group problems
starting a new thread On Nov 3, 2007, at 4:06 PM, Adam M.Goldstein wrote: > Next question: I do a search, and I am looking at a google scholar > search page in the upper part of the window, and the scraped-off > bibtex records in the bottom part. Then, I go to the next page of the > search by selecting the "2" at the bottom of the page for page 2 of > the search. But the BibTeX at the bottom of the window stays the same. > How do I get the new references on page 2? What do you mean by "BibTeX"? I see the usual publications table and whatever preview I've selected. The new references should be automatically loaded up, and they are in my test here. > I notice that it takes a really long time (30 secs or so at least) to > load up the second page; the reload arrow to the right of the url > field is an "X" for a while. Does this reflect BibDesk's scraping > action, and is maybe why the new references aren't appearing? There's also a spinner in the group table. How many results are you showing at once? With 10 results per page here, the next page loads almost instantaneously. > Another suggestion: Can there be web groups in the same way that there > are Z30.50 search groups? Instead of entering a url into the field, I > enter a search key in google scholar; then the url shows up and I pick > up references by moving around through the pages. Right now there's a single web group, and I don't know if this would be possible; I think it would require crafting the URLs for each site (if I understand what you're asking). There are still some UI questions open on this feature, too. -- adam - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.11?
On Nov 3, 2007, at 6:53 PM, Adam M. Goldstein wrote: >> >> It works for me, and I traded screenshots with Peter offlist. His >> URL >> is shorter. What happens if you use >> >> http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=sediment+transport+modeling&hl=en&lr=&btnG=Search >> >> in the URL field? >> > > > Um, ok, it works, as did the rest of the searches I tried before. > > Sorry for the distraction. > > I have no idea what happened. > > This works really well and it's a great thing. > Next question: I do a search, and I am looking at a google scholar search page in the upper part of the window, and the scraped-off bibtex records in the bottom part. Then, I go to the next page of the search by selecting the "2" at the bottom of the page for page 2 of the search. But the BibTeX at the bottom of the window stays the same. How do I get the new references on page 2? I notice that it takes a really long time (30 secs or so at least) to load up the second page; the reload arrow to the right of the url field is an "X" for a while. Does this reflect BibDesk's scraping action, and is maybe why the new references aren't appearing? Another suggestion: Can there be web groups in the same way that there are Z30.50 search groups? Instead of entering a url into the field, I enter a search key in google scholar; then the url shows up and I pick up references by moving around through the pages. -Adam = Adam M. Goldstein PhD Assistant Professor of Philosophy Iona College -- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web:http://www.iona.edu/faculty/agoldstein/ tel:(914) 637-2717 post: Iona College Department of Philosophy 715 North Avenue New Rochelle, NY 10801 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.11?
On Nov 3, 2007, at 6:26 PM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: > > On Nov 3, 2007, at 3:20 PM, Adam M. Goldstein wrote: > >> On Nov 3, 2007, at 5:41 PM, Peter Cowan wrote: >> >>> I downloaded the latest nightly and don't understand the web group >>> thing. >>> >>> I visited the three sites in the release notes, citeulike.org, >>> acm.org/dl, and Google Scholar and, followed the directions on the >>> mailing list (e.g. changing my google preferences). However I see >>> only the various web pages in the top panel and nothing in the lower >>> two. Is this feature documented anywhere? What am I doing wrong? >> >> I have had the same problem. Can anyone produce a quick how-to for >> this, particularly, with Google Scholar? > > It works for me, and I traded screenshots with Peter offlist. His URL > is shorter. What happens if you use > > http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=sediment+transport+modeling&hl=en&lr=&btnG=Search > > in the URL field? > Um, ok, it works, as did the rest of the searches I tried before. Sorry for the distraction. I have no idea what happened. This works really well and it's a great thing. Thanks! -Adam G. = Adam M. Goldstein PhD Assistant Professor of Philosophy Iona College -- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web:http://www.iona.edu/faculty/agoldstein/ tel:(914) 637-2717 post: Iona College Department of Philosophy 715 North Avenue New Rochelle, NY 10801 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.11?
On Nov 3, 2007, at 3:20 PM, Adam M. Goldstein wrote: > On Nov 3, 2007, at 5:41 PM, Peter Cowan wrote: > >> I downloaded the latest nightly and don't understand the web group >> thing. >> >> I visited the three sites in the release notes, citeulike.org, >> acm.org/dl, and Google Scholar and, followed the directions on the >> mailing list (e.g. changing my google preferences). However I see >> only the various web pages in the top panel and nothing in the lower >> two. Is this feature documented anywhere? What am I doing wrong? >>> > > I have had the same problem. Can anyone produce a quick how-to for > this, particularly, with Google Scholar? It works for me, and I traded screenshots with Peter offlist. His URL is shorter. What happens if you use http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=sediment+transport+modeling&hl=en&lr=&btnG=Search in the URL field? - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.11?
On Nov 3, 2007, at 5:41 PM, Peter Cowan wrote: > I downloaded the latest nightly and don't understand the web group > thing. > > I visited the three sites in the release notes, citeulike.org, > acm.org/dl, and Google Scholar and, followed the directions on the > mailing list (e.g. changing my google preferences). However I see > only the various web pages in the top panel and nothing in the lower > two. Is this feature documented anywhere? What am I doing wrong? >> I have had the same problem. Can anyone produce a quick how-to for this, particularly, with Google Scholar? -Adam = Adam M. Goldstein PhD Assistant Professor of Philosophy Iona College -- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web:http://www.iona.edu/faculty/agoldstein/ tel:(914) 637-2717 post: Iona College Department of Philosophy 715 North Avenue New Rochelle, NY 10801 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.11?
On Nov 3, 2007, at 2:48 PM, Alexander H. Montgomery wrote: > Will there be an installer for the quicklook plugin under 10.5? (Too > bad the file:// URLs don't work...) I have yet to put it in subversion, but it can be bundled in the app just like the Spotlight plugin (no install). I'll look into that. > Also, what happened to the new drag-n-drop file interface that was > discussed a little while ago? We're working on it in our copious free time ;). It's partially functional in a subversion branch, but there are some alias/path issues to work out. -- adam - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.11?
Will there be an installer for the quicklook plugin under 10.5? (Too bad the file:// URLs don't work...) Also, what happened to the new drag-n-drop file interface that was discussed a little while ago? -AHM On Nov 3, 2007, at 11:41 AM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: > On Nov 3, 2007, at 10:20 AM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: > >> On Nov 3, 2007, at 10:12 AM, Simon Spiegel wrote: >> >>> One question though: Is there any warning for Leopard users that the >>> autocompletion plugin doesn't work anymore? I think something like >>> this might be needed, because many people probably wont realise that >>> this has changed with Leopard. >> >> Good point. I can add a check for that in the code that checks to >> see >> if the input manager needs an update. > > Okay, this is checked in for the next nightly. > > For the curious, full release notes are available at > > https://bibdesk.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bibdesk/trunk/bibdesk/RelNotes.rtf > > and will be included in the next build. I didn't realize that it's > been 2 months since the last release. > > thanks, > adam > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a > browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > ___ > Bibdesk-users mailing list > Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.11?
I downloaded the latest nightly and don't understand the web group thing. I visited the three sites in the release notes, citeulike.org, acm.org/dl, and Google Scholar and, followed the directions on the mailing list (e.g. changing my google preferences). However I see only the various web pages in the top panel and nothing in the lower two. Is this feature documented anywhere? What am I doing wrong? Thanks for all the wonderful work! Off to check out the templates next... Peter On 11/3/07, Adam M. Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 3, 2007, at 3:26 PM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: > > > > > On Nov 3, 2007, at 12:00 PM, Adam M. Goldstein wrote: > > > >> Not terribly recent, but Version 1.3.10 (v900) has worked, well, > >> pretty much flawlessly. > > > > That's over 3 weeks old, which is pretty ancient for a nightly build! > > > > Yes, ok, I'm downloading the most recent one and will give it a > workout in the next 24 hours or so and get back to you again. > > -Adam > > > -- > > adam > > > > > > - > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a > > browser. > > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > > ___ > > Bibdesk-users mailing list > > Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users > > = > Adam M. Goldstein PhD > Assistant Professor of Philosophy > Iona College > -- > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > web:http://www.iona.edu/faculty/agoldstein/ > tel:(914) 637-2717 > post: Iona College > Department of Philosophy > 715 North Avenue > New Rochelle, NY 10801 > > > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > ___ > Bibdesk-users mailing list > Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.11?
On Nov 3, 2007, at 3:26 PM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: > > On Nov 3, 2007, at 12:00 PM, Adam M. Goldstein wrote: > >> Not terribly recent, but Version 1.3.10 (v900) has worked, well, >> pretty much flawlessly. > > That's over 3 weeks old, which is pretty ancient for a nightly build! > Yes, ok, I'm downloading the most recent one and will give it a workout in the next 24 hours or so and get back to you again. -Adam > -- > adam > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a > browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > ___ > Bibdesk-users mailing list > Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users = Adam M. Goldstein PhD Assistant Professor of Philosophy Iona College -- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web:http://www.iona.edu/faculty/agoldstein/ tel:(914) 637-2717 post: Iona College Department of Philosophy 715 North Avenue New Rochelle, NY 10801 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.11?
On Nov 3, 2007, at 12:00 PM, Adam M. Goldstein wrote: > Not terribly recent, but Version 1.3.10 (v900) has worked, well, > pretty much flawlessly. That's over 3 weeks old, which is pretty ancient for a nightly build! -- adam - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.11?
Not terribly recent, but Version 1.3.10 (v900) has worked, well, pretty much flawlessly. -Adam On Nov 3, 2007, at 2:41 PM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: > On Nov 3, 2007, at 10:20 AM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: > >> On Nov 3, 2007, at 10:12 AM, Simon Spiegel wrote: >> >>> One question though: Is there any warning for Leopard users that the >>> autocompletion plugin doesn't work anymore? I think something like >>> this might be needed, because many people probably wont realise that >>> this has changed with Leopard. >> >> Good point. I can add a check for that in the code that checks to >> see >> if the input manager needs an update. > > Okay, this is checked in for the next nightly. > > For the curious, full release notes are available at > > https://bibdesk.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bibdesk/trunk/bibdesk/RelNotes.rtf > > and will be included in the next build. I didn't realize that it's > been 2 months since the last release. > > thanks, > adam > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a > browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > ___ > Bibdesk-users mailing list > Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users = Adam M. Goldstein PhD Assistant Professor of Philosophy Iona College -- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web:http://www.iona.edu/faculty/agoldstein/ tel:(914) 637-2717 post: Iona College Department of Philosophy 715 North Avenue New Rochelle, NY 10801 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.11?
On Nov 3, 2007, at 10:20 AM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: > On Nov 3, 2007, at 10:12 AM, Simon Spiegel wrote: > >> One question though: Is there any warning for Leopard users that the >> autocompletion plugin doesn't work anymore? I think something like >> this might be needed, because many people probably wont realise that >> this has changed with Leopard. > > Good point. I can add a check for that in the code that checks to see > if the input manager needs an update. Okay, this is checked in for the next nightly. For the curious, full release notes are available at https://bibdesk.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bibdesk/trunk/bibdesk/RelNotes.rtf and will be included in the next build. I didn't realize that it's been 2 months since the last release. thanks, adam - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.11?
On Nov 3, 2007, at 10:12 AM, Simon Spiegel wrote: > > On 03.11.2007, at 18:00, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: > >> We're about due for another release. Any problems with recent >> nightly >> builds? >> >> The major new feature is Christiaan's template editor; hopefully >> people have exercised that a bit on Tiger and Leopard. >> >> As of yesterday, we have a new version of the Omni frameworks, so >> things need some general testing as well. > > No problems for me with v913, so +1. > > One question though: Is there any warning for Leopard users that the > autocompletion plugin doesn't work anymore? I think something like > this might be needed, because many people probably wont realise that > this has changed with Leopard. Good point. I can add a check for that in the code that checks to see if the input manager needs an update. thanks, adam - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.11?
On 03.11.2007, at 18:00, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: > We're about due for another release. Any problems with recent nightly > builds? > > The major new feature is Christiaan's template editor; hopefully > people have exercised that a bit on Tiger and Leopard. > > As of yesterday, we have a new version of the Omni frameworks, so > things need some general testing as well. No problems for me with v913, so +1. One question though: Is there any warning for Leopard users that the autocompletion plugin doesn't work anymore? I think something like this might be needed, because many people probably wont realise that this has changed with Leopard. simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch "Was soll aus mir mal werden, wenn ich mal nicht mehr bin?" Robert Gernhardt - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.11?
On Nov 3, 2007, at 10:00 AM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: > The major new feature is Christiaan's template editor; hopefully > people have exercised that a bit on Tiger and Leopard. And Mike's screen scrapers for Google Scholar and the like. The web group is now enabled by default. I'll try to get the release notes updated for the next build. -- adam - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
[Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.11?
We're about due for another release. Any problems with recent nightly builds? The major new feature is Christiaan's template editor; hopefully people have exercised that a bit on Tiger and Leopard. As of yesterday, we have a new version of the Omni frameworks, so things need some general testing as well. thanks, Adam - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Duplicates
Here is one suggestion: Don't fiddle with the UI of BD and maintain the usual behavior and appearance. Someone write a script, or else add in as a menu item somewhere, if it is to be built in to BD, an action that does something to the effect of, "identify duplicates; delete one of each pair with no questions asked (or alternatively: delete all but one in a group of identical references, in case of triples or more)" It seems to me that there are two user actions here: (1) "Bibliography cleanup." Search the library for duplicates using BD's best heuristic, and then by hand decided whether they really are duplicates. There is an interesting case in which two records are duplicates as far as their main information goes, but then have different sets of keywords, annotations, or note fields. Although the duplicate detector would probably identify them as being the same, and they would produce the same output in many cases, they really are different. (2) "Mass merge." Merge bibliographies in which it's known that there are some duplicates that must be cleaned out with the least trouble possible. On Nov 3, 2007, at 7:23 AM, Holger Frauenrath wrote: > > On Nov 3, 2007, at 12:19 PM, Christiaan Hofman wrote: > >>> Hi, >>> >>> just as a question/suggestion: would it not be possible to let the >>> "select duplicates" command (or a new similar command) *display* all >>> duplicates (like a filter) but *select* all duplicate copies except >>> for one by default? Then, if the user does not care for the problem >>> you mentioned, removing duplicates would amount to choosing this >>> command and hitting delete. >>> >>> Best regards >>> Holger >> >> Displaying: no, as there is no UI reason why items are not displayed >> (and to reverse that). > > Yes, you are right, it is actually one of the things I like in > Bibdesk. Although, something like a "search group" (don't know > whether I use the right term here) for duplicates in combination with > a selection mechanism might work. > >> But what we can do is show a sheet and let the >> user decide how duplicates are selected. > > Sound good to me, too. Other people may be annoyed by a sheet, > though ... > > Holger > > > __ > Dr. Holger Frauenrath > ETH Zurich > Department of Materials > Wolfgang-Pauli-Str. 10, HCI H515 > CH-8093 Zurich > Switzerland > > Phone: (+41) 44 633 6474 > Fax: (+41) 44 633 1390 > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Web: http://www.polychem.mat.ethz.ch/frauenrath/ > > > > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a > browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > ___ > Bibdesk-users mailing list > Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users = Adam M. Goldstein PhD Assistant Professor of Philosophy Iona College -- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web:http://www.iona.edu/faculty/agoldstein/ tel:(914) 637-2717 post: Iona College Department of Philosophy 715 North Avenue New Rochelle, NY 10801 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Duplicates
On Nov 3, 2007, at 12:19 PM, Christiaan Hofman wrote: >> Hi, >> >> just as a question/suggestion: would it not be possible to let the >> "select duplicates" command (or a new similar command) *display* all >> duplicates (like a filter) but *select* all duplicate copies except >> for one by default? Then, if the user does not care for the problem >> you mentioned, removing duplicates would amount to choosing this >> command and hitting delete. >> >> Best regards >> Holger > > Displaying: no, as there is no UI reason why items are not displayed > (and to reverse that). Yes, you are right, it is actually one of the things I like in Bibdesk. Although, something like a "search group" (don't know whether I use the right term here) for duplicates in combination with a selection mechanism might work. > But what we can do is show a sheet and let the > user decide how duplicates are selected. Sound good to me, too. Other people may be annoyed by a sheet, though ... Holger __ Dr. Holger Frauenrath ETH Zurich Department of Materials Wolfgang-Pauli-Str. 10, HCI H515 CH-8093 Zurich Switzerland Phone: (+41) 44 633 6474 Fax: (+41) 44 633 1390 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.polychem.mat.ethz.ch/frauenrath/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Duplicates
On 3 Nov 2007, at 12:12 PM, Holger Frauenrath wrote: > > On Nov 3, 2007, at 11:47 AM, Christiaan Hofman wrote: > >> AFAIK there is not simple way to automatically remove duplicates. The >> problem is that duplicate entries are not necessarily identical >> entries, so a decision has to be made as to which of the duplicates >> is retained. And an automatic system cannot make this choice (apart >> from making a random choice). So the easiest is to put the selected >> duplicates in a temporary (static) group and delete duplicates >> manually. Make sure you use Option-Delete to delete the items, >> otherwise they are merely deleted from the group. If you sort by an >> appropriate column it should not be too hard to identify the >> duplicates. >> >> Christiaan > > > Hi, > > just as a question/suggestion: would it not be possible to let the > "select duplicates" command (or a new similar command) *display* all > duplicates (like a filter) but *select* all duplicate copies except > for one by default? Then, if the user does not care for the problem > you mentioned, removing duplicates would amount to choosing this > command and hitting delete. > > Best regards > Holger Displaying: no, as there is no UI reason why items are not displayed (and to reverse that). But what we can do is show a sheet and let the user decide how duplicates are selected. Christiaan - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Duplicates
On Nov 3, 2007, at 11:47 AM, Christiaan Hofman wrote: > AFAIK there is not simple way to automatically remove duplicates. The > problem is that duplicate entries are not necessarily identical > entries, so a decision has to be made as to which of the duplicates > is retained. And an automatic system cannot make this choice (apart > from making a random choice). So the easiest is to put the selected > duplicates in a temporary (static) group and delete duplicates > manually. Make sure you use Option-Delete to delete the items, > otherwise they are merely deleted from the group. If you sort by an > appropriate column it should not be too hard to identify the > duplicates. > > Christiaan Hi, just as a question/suggestion: would it not be possible to let the "select duplicates" command (or a new similar command) *display* all duplicates (like a filter) but *select* all duplicate copies except for one by default? Then, if the user does not care for the problem you mentioned, removing duplicates would amount to choosing this command and hitting delete. Best regards Holger - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Duplicates
AFAIK there is not simple way to automatically remove duplicates. The problem is that duplicate entries are not necessarily identical entries, so a decision has to be made as to which of the duplicates is retained. And an automatic system cannot make this choice (apart from making a random choice). So the easiest is to put the selected duplicates in a temporary (static) group and delete duplicates manually. Make sure you use Option-Delete to delete the items, otherwise they are merely deleted from the group. If you sort by an appropriate column it should not be too hard to identify the duplicates. Christiaan On 3 Nov 2007, at 10:01 AM, Alex Hamann wrote: > It seems my answer was a little premature (as Adrian pointed out in > an email to me yesterday). The solution I provided does indeed > select all duplicates but is not good to just delete the second copy. > Now I am bringing this back since I may run into a similar situation > pretty soon. Has anybody found an easy way to delete only the copies > but leaving one entry in place? > > a. > > > Am 01.11.2007 um 09:21 schrieb Alex Hamann: > >> Database --> select duplicates >> >> alex >> >> >> Am 01.11.2007 um 07:00 schrieb Adrian Butscher: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I would like to consolidate a large number of different .bib files. >>> If I import all of them into a single BibDesk file, then I have >>> many, >>> many duplicates. Is there a way of removing all duplicates in one >>> go? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Adrian Butscher >>> Stanford University >>> >>> >>> - >>> - >>> --- >>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. >>> Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. >>> Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a >>> browser. >>> Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ >>> ___ >>> Bibdesk-users mailing list >>> Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users >>> >> >> >> >> = >> please avoid sending me word attachements; see >> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html >> for details and background >> >> >> >> - >> - >> --- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. >> Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. >> Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a >> browser. >> Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ >> ___ >> Bibdesk-users mailing list >> Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users >> > > = > please avoid sending me word attachements; see > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > for details and background > > > > -- > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a > browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > ___ > Bibdesk-users mailing list > Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Duplicates
It seems my answer was a little premature (as Adrian pointed out in an email to me yesterday). The solution I provided does indeed select all duplicates but is not good to just delete the second copy. Now I am bringing this back since I may run into a similar situation pretty soon. Has anybody found an easy way to delete only the copies but leaving one entry in place? a. Am 01.11.2007 um 09:21 schrieb Alex Hamann: > Database --> select duplicates > > alex > > > Am 01.11.2007 um 07:00 schrieb Adrian Butscher: > >> Hello, >> >> I would like to consolidate a large number of different .bib files. >> If I import all of them into a single BibDesk file, then I have many, >> many duplicates. Is there a way of removing all duplicates in one >> go? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Adrian Butscher >> Stanford University >> >> - >> - >> --- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. >> Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. >> Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a >> browser. >> Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ >> ___ >> Bibdesk-users mailing list >> Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users >> > > > > = > please avoid sending me word attachements; see > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > for details and background > > > > -- > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a > browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > ___ > Bibdesk-users mailing list > Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users > = please avoid sending me word attachements; see http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html for details and background - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
