Re: beta3 and bbappconf iconic
On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 01:29:02PM -0400, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: > The source code is at: > http://bbtools.windsofstorm.net/sources/devel/bbappconf-0.0.1-peak3.tar.gz > > and an unofficial Debian package can be found at: > http://research.soc.staffs.ac.uk/~james/download/bbappconf_0.0.1-peak3-1_i386.deb [... snip ...] > --Matthew Just a quick note to say that the bbappconf Debian package will be moving to http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/jwrobinson/dl.html James. -- | James Robinson | | Graphics + IP research group, Staffordshire University | | "A PC without Windows is like a chocolate cake without mustard." |
Re: beta3 and bbappconf iconic
On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 12:29, Ben Jansens wrote: > On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 12:16:38PM -0400, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: > > I'm not sure exactly when I started using bbappconf -- if it was with > > 0.62.1 or with an early 0.65 alpha. However, when I originally used it, > > running "bbappconf -i" wouldn't iconify bbappconf properly -- I'd get a > > little, blank, decorless window in my upper left screen on each > > workspace. As a result, I started using "bbappconf -w" so I at least > > wouldn't see it so much (I run my slit as autohide). > > > > Recently, in alpha8, I discovered it was once again iconifying properly. > > Then, today, when I upgraded to beta3, it reverted to it's weird > > behavior once again. > > > > Is this a problem with bbappconf? Or is there code that has changed and > > changed back again for the bbtools that would cause this behaviour? > > > > I don't notice the same thing happening with bbkeys, the only other > > bbtool I currently run, which leads me to believe it's a problem with > > bbappconf... > > > > Anybody else noticing this? figured out a patch? > > IIRC bbappconf hs never iconified right. I made a patch a long time ago > for bbappconf. > > Grab it at > http://xor.orodu.net/bb/bbappconf.move_resize_fix_iconify.patch > > Maybe that'll solve your problem. Thanks! It did! bbappMan now appears in my Icons list, and doesn't fuzz up either my screen or slit. Thanks a bundle! > > xOr > -- > I am damn unsatisfied to be killed in this way. On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 12:23, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > Where did you get bbappconf from? The source code is at: http://bbtools.windsofstorm.net/sources/devel/bbappconf-0.0.1-peak3.tar.gz and an unofficial Debian package can be found at: http://research.soc.staffs.ac.uk/~james/download/bbappconf_0.0.1-peak3-1_i386.deb I'd actually had the Debian package installed, so I had to search through Google to find the source code -- which is buried in the bbtools site, and never linked from their pages. It might be nice if someone -- perhaps the maintainers of the FAQ -- would inquire into getting permission to host the source and Debian packages on their site, so that this app won't get lost over time. --Matthew
Re: beta3 and bbappconf iconic
On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 12:16:38PM -0400, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: > I'm not sure exactly when I started using bbappconf -- if it was with > 0.62.1 or with an early 0.65 alpha. However, when I originally used it, > running "bbappconf -i" wouldn't iconify bbappconf properly -- I'd get a > little, blank, decorless window in my upper left screen on each > workspace. As a result, I started using "bbappconf -w" so I at least > wouldn't see it so much (I run my slit as autohide). > > Recently, in alpha8, I discovered it was once again iconifying properly. > Then, today, when I upgraded to beta3, it reverted to it's weird > behavior once again. > > Is this a problem with bbappconf? Or is there code that has changed and > changed back again for the bbtools that would cause this behaviour? > > I don't notice the same thing happening with bbkeys, the only other > bbtool I currently run, which leads me to believe it's a problem with > bbappconf... > > Anybody else noticing this? figured out a patch? IIRC bbappconf hs never iconified right. I made a patch a long time ago for bbappconf. Grab it at http://xor.orodu.net/bb/bbappconf.move_resize_fix_iconify.patch Maybe that'll solve your problem. xOr -- I am damn unsatisfied to be killed in this way. msg08025/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: beta3 and bbappconf iconic
On 23-Jul-2002 Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: > I'm not sure exactly when I started using bbappconf -- if it was with > 0.62.1 or with an early 0.65 alpha. However, when I originally used it, > running "bbappconf -i" wouldn't iconify bbappconf properly -- I'd get a > little, blank, decorless window in my upper left screen on each > workspace. As a result, I started using "bbappconf -w" so I at least > wouldn't see it so much (I run my slit as autohide). > Where did you get bbappconf from?
beta3 and bbappconf iconic
I'm not sure exactly when I started using bbappconf -- if it was with 0.62.1 or with an early 0.65 alpha. However, when I originally used it, running "bbappconf -i" wouldn't iconify bbappconf properly -- I'd get a little, blank, decorless window in my upper left screen on each workspace. As a result, I started using "bbappconf -w" so I at least wouldn't see it so much (I run my slit as autohide). Recently, in alpha8, I discovered it was once again iconifying properly. Then, today, when I upgraded to beta3, it reverted to it's weird behavior once again. Is this a problem with bbappconf? Or is there code that has changed and changed back again for the bbtools that would cause this behaviour? I don't notice the same thing happening with bbkeys, the only other bbtool I currently run, which leads me to believe it's a problem with bbappconf... Anybody else noticing this? figured out a patch? Matthew
Re: Bbappconf
On Sat, Jun08,02 13:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Anyone? > > I'm running a transparent aterm window, and want it borderless as well. I downloaded bbappconf, edited bbappconf.bb so that class = XTerm, name = aterm, and decorless = true. Still no decorless window. I've tried to make this happen with xterm as well, to see if it's emulator or wm specific. Both term windows remain unaffected. Any suggestions? > Use 'xprop' to confirm that the aterm fields are correct. Did you make sure that your aterm config lies with in the 'bbappconf.numberOf.configs' threshold? bbappconf.bb: !** !** bbappconf.bb: Style file for bbappconf when using Blackbox ** !** !Uncomment what you need !Number of windows to configure bbappconf.numberOf.configs: 3 bbappconf.1.classHint.class: XTerm bbappconf.1.classHint.name: login bbappconf.1.Stick: true bbappconf.1.decorless: true ! To find classhint use xprop: WM_CLASS(string) = "name", "class" bbappconf.2.classHint.class: XTerm bbappconf.2.classHint.name: aterm_ws2 bbappconf.2.decorless: true bbappconf.2.startOnWorkspace: 2 bbappconf.3.classHint.class: bbappman bbappconf.3.classHint.name: bbtools bbappconf.3.startOnWorkspace: 9 aterm options: #> export ATERM_OPTIONS="-fg white -bg black -fn 6x13 +sb --loginShell \ --transparent -sh 75" #> export ATERM_WS2="-name aterm_ws2 -title aterm" #> aterm $ATERM_WS2 $ATERM_OPTIONS DC -- Derek Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Human beings act intelligently only after they have exhausted the alternatives" -- Abba Eban Registered Linux User Number 195825
Re: Bbappconf
On Sat, Jun 08, 2002 at 01:32:38PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm running a transparent aterm window, and want it borderless as > well. I downloaded bbappconf, edited bbappconf.bb so that class = > XTerm, name = aterm, and decorless = true. Still no decorless window. > I've tried to make this happen with xterm as well, to see if it's > emulator or wm specific. Both term windows remain unaffected. Any > suggestions? Well, I don't use the 'class' field of bbappconf, but as far as I know your setup should still work. Here are the two lines which work for me: bbappconf.1.classHint.name: aterm bbappconf.1.decorless: true Now, this is probably a really stupid suggestion, but you do have bbappconf running in the background, right? I start mine in .xinitrc with: bbappconf -i -s & before blackbox gets executed. Also, you may want to make a note of the bblaunch utility, if you haven't already. You can find the URL for it somewhere in this list's archives, as it can be a b*tch to track down. Take care, John
Re: Bbappconf
On Sat, 08 Jun 2002 13:32:38 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm running a transparent aterm window, and want it borderless as well. I downloaded bbappconf, edited bbappconf.bb so that class = XTerm, name = aterm, and decorless = true. Still no decorless window. I've tried to make this happen with xterm as well, to see if it's emulator or wm specific. Both term windows remain unaffected. Any suggestions? Here is a portion of my ~/.bbtools/bbappconf.bb to load a small command- line term on all workspaces: bbappconf.numberOf.configs: 3 .. bbappconf.3.classHint.class: XTerm bbappconf.3.classHint.name: commandbox bbappconf.3.decorless: true bbappconf.3.Stick: true .. In this case, I have to run aterm with the option "-name commandbox". But I don't really use bbappconf any more. :) -- Joseph Applegate (SB-X) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 9788597
Re: Bbappconf
On 08-Jun-2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Anyone? > > I'm running a transparent aterm window, and want it borderless as well. I > downloaded bbappconf, edited bbappconf.bb so that class = XTerm, name = > aterm, and decorless = true. Still no decorless window. I've tried to make > this happen with xterm as well, to see if it's emulator or wm specific. Both > term windows remain unaffected. Any suggestions? > as Glyn points out the border is controlled by the style, reduce the border in your style and your aterm will have a smaller border too.
Re: Bbappconf
The easiest is to call it with bbkeys, and toggling its decor off afterwards with bbkeys too (I use ALT-6 for aterm and CTRL-TAB for toggleDecor). Still, you have to do it every time Nothing's perfect. Adriano 08/06/02 14:32:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: >Anyone? > >I'm running a transparent aterm window, and want it borderless as well. I downloaded >bbappconf, edited bbappconf.bb so that class = XTerm, name = aterm, and decorless = true. Still no decorless window. I've tried to make this happen with xterm as well, to see if it's emulator or wm specific. Both term windows remain unaffected. Any suggestions? > > > > > >__ >Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the >convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ > >Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at >http://webmail.netscape.com/ >
Re: Bbappconf
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Anyone? > > I'm running a transparent aterm window, and want it borderless as well. > I downloaded bbappconf, edited bbappconf.bb so that class = XTerm, name > = aterm, and decorless = true. Still no decorless window. I've tried > to make this happen with xterm as well, to see if it's emulator or wm > specific. Both term windows remain unaffected. Any suggestions? Yes! 1. Wrap your posts - 72 lines is a good standard 2. Within the style file for your current theme you should find lines like these. The zeros are important handleWidth:4 frameWidth: 0 bevelWidth: 1 borderWidth:0 hth Glyn
Bbappconf
Anyone? I'm running a transparent aterm window, and want it borderless as well. I downloaded bbappconf, edited bbappconf.bb so that class = XTerm, name = aterm, and decorless = true. Still no decorless window. I've tried to make this happen with xterm as well, to see if it's emulator or wm specific. Both term windows remain unaffected. Any suggestions? __ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/
Re: bbappconf
In message: Re: bbappconf (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) on 07/01/2002 (Mon 14:40) Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > > > I've been using bbconf (http://sourceforge.net/projects/bbconf) since I > > rediscovered bb a month or so ago and it seems to work pretty well. > > There are a few things apparently missing (like edge snap distance, for > > example) but over all it's pretty slick. > > > > bbAPPconf, not bbconf. bbappconf is a way to say "whenever I launch netscape, > put it on workspace 3, maximized" or "I want anything with the title 'home' to > be without window decoration". Oops, right, not thinking there. Sorry. :-) -Joe. (note to me: think _then_ reply.) -- Joe MacDonald :wq
Re: bbappconf
> I've been using bbconf (http://sourceforge.net/projects/bbconf) since I > rediscovered bb a month or so ago and it seems to work pretty well. > There are a few things apparently missing (like edge snap distance, for > example) but over all it's pretty slick. Yeah, but that configured BlackBox itself, and not specific apps, does it? -- tinus
Re: bbappconf
> > I've been using bbconf (http://sourceforge.net/projects/bbconf) since I > rediscovered bb a month or so ago and it seems to work pretty well. > There are a few things apparently missing (like edge snap distance, for > example) but over all it's pretty slick. > bbAPPconf, not bbconf. bbappconf is a way to say "whenever I launch netscape, put it on workspace 3, maximized" or "I want anything with the title 'home' to be without window decoration".
Re: bbappconf
In message: Re: bbappconf (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) on 07/01/2002 (Mon 14:27) Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > On 07-Jan-2002 Martijn Houtman wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I was browsing on the bbtools site and got interested by this app. > > Since the development is going on again (great thing btw), I was > > wondering if this was going to make the bb source, or if it was to > > be a separated application. The website itself says the following: > > > > "I am not planning to continue development of bbappconf before I > > have taken a look if I can hack it into Blackbox. This is window > > management so I think the Window Manager should do this =)" > > > > And I agree to that. What do you think, shaleh, and others? > > > > I need to look at this further. At this point I am not able to make > any kind of comment. The author has not contacted me either. I've been using bbconf (http://sourceforge.net/projects/bbconf) since I rediscovered bb a month or so ago and it seems to work pretty well. There are a few things apparently missing (like edge snap distance, for example) but over all it's pretty slick. -Joe. -- Joe MacDonald :wq
Re: bbappconf
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 11:26:26PM +0100, Martijn Houtman wrote: > Hi, > > I was browsing on the bbtools site and got interested by this app. Since the > development is going on again (great thing btw), I was wondering if this was > going to make the bb source, or if it was to be a separated application. > The website itself says the following: > > "I am not planning to continue development of bbappconf before I have taken >a look if I can hack it into Blackbox. This is window management so I think >the Window Manager should do this =)" > > And I agree to that. What do you think, shaleh, and others? I've been considering doing that myself on the (future) 0.70 tree. But that remains to be seen. In any case, this would not become apparent for some time as the 0.62 tree is not about new features, and the 0.70 tree will take some time to become "usable" I think. xOr -- I am damn unsatisfied to be killed in this way. msg04717/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: bbappconf
On 07-Jan-2002 Martijn Houtman wrote: > Hi, > > I was browsing on the bbtools site and got interested by this app. Since the > development is going on again (great thing btw), I was wondering if this was > going to make the bb source, or if it was to be a separated application. > The website itself says the following: > > "I am not planning to continue development of bbappconf before I have taken >a look if I can hack it into Blackbox. This is window management so I > think >the Window Manager should do this =)" > > And I agree to that. What do you think, shaleh, and others? > I need to look at this further. At this point I am not able to make any kind of comment. The author has not contacted me either.
bbappconf
Hi, I was browsing on the bbtools site and got interested by this app. Since the development is going on again (great thing btw), I was wondering if this was going to make the bb source, or if it was to be a separated application. The website itself says the following: "I am not planning to continue development of bbappconf before I have taken a look if I can hack it into Blackbox. This is window management so I think the Window Manager should do this =)" And I agree to that. What do you think, shaleh, and others? Regards, -- tinus
Re: bbappconf
On 14 Nov 2001 15:15:27 -0500 "Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, for instance, this one. =:) I'd like to at-will take all window > decorations off of a window (a decor-less, sticky aterm would suit me > nicely, thank you), and then be able to add the titlebar/buttons, etc. > back on when I want also. > Further, I think it would be nice(and I may be the only one here) to have some application or configuration file that allows me to move the decorations around. On my BB, it is set up to have only one titlebar decoration: the exit button, and it is on the LEFT side of the titlebar. Every BB upgrade I've had to edit the source to achieve this but it wouldn't be difficult to modify the internals so it is configurable(from what I can tell). I know, purely cosmetic. :-) SB-X [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 9788597
Re: to do list (was Re: bbappconf)
On Wed, Nov14,01 20:24, Fred Smith wrote: > On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 05:47:46PM -0500, Derek Cunningham wrote: > > 'use blackbox without a mouse (open menus and browse menus with keys)" > > > > I don't agree with this: > > i also agree that keybinding should be kept out of blackbox, but how would > you bring up a menu using bbkeys? what would i put in my .bbkeysrc ? > well, obviously this isn't implemented yet, but I suspect there'd be additional functions like load_menu, or something, and you'd be able to bind keys to them (in a similar fashion to ShadwWindow, ExecCommand, etc) and blackbox would have some way to interpret this, and then it would call the associated function that right-clicking calls. I think there's some preliminary support for this with a patch... but I'm not sure. DC -- Derek Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] "All men by nature desire to know." -- Aristotle.
Re: to do list (was Re: bbappconf)
On Wed, Nov14,01 12:03, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: > On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Derek Cunningham wrote: > > > > So, Jeff, if you're out there, is there any update on where this falls > > > on the official blackbox TODO list? > > > > > > > better question: IS THERE a todo list? and is there any update at all WRT > > blackbox development? > > http://www.reedmedia.net/misc/blackbox/ideas.html > Comments on the above URL: Don't agree: "add keybindings back to blackbox: bindings are ctrl-arrows to change workspaces and alt-tab/alt-shift-tab to cycle windows. (Patch available)" bbkeys is fine. YES! 'use blackbox without a mouse (open menus and browse menus with keys)" I don't agree with this: "move select key bindings back into blackbox, and add key bindings to pop up root and workspace menus (they will only be key-navigable when popped up by a key binding)", I think all keybindings (even ALT+click, ALT+right-click, etc) should be moved OUT of blackbox, and into bbkeys, maximum configuration would result from this. Well, it'll certainly be interesting to see some of this stuff implemented. I'd even be happy with some CVS action happening so that BB's userbase can use the latest and greatest, as the small changes take effect. DC -- Derek Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] "All men by nature desire to know." -- Aristotle.
Re: to do list (was Re: bbappconf)
Laszlo Gerencser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Jeremy C. Reed" wrote: > > Regarding the "bb crashes (dumps core) when changing workspaces quickly" > > issue, I recall seeing a workaround -- or a diagnosis, but I forgot what > > it is. > > There is only one workaround: do not change workspaces quickly. Just FWIW: I do have 9 workspaces (arranged in a 3x3 matrix) and I switch them a lot very fast all the time. I also do have "focus last window" and it never (not ONCE) crashed for me. That is consisten on Debian GNU/Linux and NetBSD.
Re: bbappconf
On Wed, 2001-11-14 at 11:55, Derek Cunningham wrote:
> > Okay. Yes, you're absolutely right. And this is a blackbox issue.
> > Blackbox is broke WRT windows that have decorations removed from them.
>
> and yet there are some people on this list that feel that blackbox is fine
> as is. Sure, this is an eye-candy issue... but still, it's a bug, period.
Agreed. And henceforth and thusly, said bug should be squashed.
>
> > I've added code to bbkeys to allow decoration toggling (toggleDecor,
> > which will add or strip decorations from the currently-focused window)
> > and went as far as I can go.
>
> ok... is this a patch to bbkeys, or is it in the main distro? how do I
> utilize this function?
The functionality is built into bbkeys 0.8.x. It just doesn't work
because blackbox is broke in this regard.
> > Blackbox's internals are broken also with
> > regards to being able to tell other apps what the decoration state of a
> > given window is.
>
> where is this functionality useful?
>
Well, for instance, this one. =:) I'd like to at-will take all window
decorations off of a window (a decor-less, sticky aterm would suit me
nicely, thank you), and then be able to add the titlebar/buttons, etc.
back on when I want also.
> > I've patched blackbox to at least tell external
> > applications whether a given window is decorated or not, but it really
> > does no good because there's the other problem in which blackbox acts
> > like it's going to let you move or resize a now-undecorated window, but
> > doesn't really do it.
> >
>
> another bug. see above statement!
see above answer. Bottom line--it's broke and should be fixed.
>
> > I've approached Raven (who responded to me, but it's been so long I
> > forget what was said)
>
> of course, you archive your email, correct? :) so you could easily load up
> your personal archives, to find out what's up. :)
`man hard_drive_crash && man month_old_backup`
>
> > and nyz (who said that the version of KDE that he
> > runs doesn't have that issue =:) ) about this and it never went
> > anywhere.
>
> haha... so basically, in short, nyz has given up on bb?
nyz (Brad Hughes) works for trolltech, lucky bugger that he is. And as
such, it's most probably more advantageous for him to use a window
manager that is directly affected by the work that he does, namely with
qt.
>
> >
> > So, Jeff, if you're out there, is there any update on where this falls
> > on the official blackbox TODO list?
> >
>
> better question: IS THERE a todo list? and is there any update at all WRT
> blackbox development?
>
*listening very intently for answer myself*
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Re: to do list (was Re: bbappconf)
"Jeremy C. Reed" wrote: > Regarding the "bb crashes (dumps core) when changing workspaces quickly" > issue, I recall seeing a workaround -- or a diagnosis, but I forgot what > it is. There is only one workaround: do not change workspaces quickly. The problem seems to be aruond redrawing windows on a workspace that is left before redrawing is completed. (I proposed a workaround that didn't help: the "Focus On Last Window" OFF setting.) -- Laszlo Gerencser PortoLogic Ltd.
to do list (was Re: bbappconf)
On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Derek Cunningham wrote: > > So, Jeff, if you're out there, is there any update on where this falls > > on the official blackbox TODO list? > > > > better question: IS THERE a todo list? and is there any update at all WRT > blackbox development? http://www.reedmedia.net/misc/blackbox/ideas.html Regarding the "bb crashes (dumps core) when changing workspaces quickly" issue, I recall seeing a workaround -- or a diagnosis, but I forgot what it is. Jeremy C. Reed .. ISP-FAQ.com -- find answers to your questions http://www.isp-faq.com/
Re: bbappconf
On Wed, Nov14,01 11:36, Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote: > On Wed, 2001-11-14 at 09:20, Derek Cunningham wrote: > > > ok... to clarify: bbappconf removed all the window decorations (including > > title bar). Now, having done this, I fully expected to have to alt-click to > > move my windows, since that's what I had to do with Eterm when it was > > borderless, but this doesn't work. > > > > > when bbappconf removes the window decorations on aterm, alt+click doesn't > > work... and I want to know why... this is utterly annoying! > > > Okay. Yes, you're absolutely right. And this is a blackbox issue. > Blackbox is broke WRT windows that have decorations removed from them. and yet there are some people on this list that feel that blackbox is fine as is. Sure, this is an eye-candy issue... but still, it's a bug, period. > I've added code to bbkeys to allow decoration toggling (toggleDecor, > which will add or strip decorations from the currently-focused window) > and went as far as I can go. ok... is this a patch to bbkeys, or is it in the main distro? how do I utilize this function? also, if I start an app without decorations, is it's upper-left corner in the same position as if it HAD decorations? or is it displaced by the space that the decorations would actually take up? I ask because I can live without moving SOME of my apps, but in order to do this, I have to place them.. and I want to just move them (with decorations) to get the coordinates... and then once I move them... I can reexecute them with the coords, and without decor. > Blackbox's internals are broken also with > regards to being able to tell other apps what the decoration state of a > given window is. where is this functionality useful? > I've patched blackbox to at least tell external > applications whether a given window is decorated or not, but it really > does no good because there's the other problem in which blackbox acts > like it's going to let you move or resize a now-undecorated window, but > doesn't really do it. > another bug. see above statement! > I've approached Raven (who responded to me, but it's been so long I > forget what was said) of course, you archive your email, correct? :) so you could easily load up your personal archives, to find out what's up. :) > and nyz (who said that the version of KDE that he > runs doesn't have that issue =:) ) about this and it never went > anywhere. haha... so basically, in short, nyz has given up on bb? > > So, Jeff, if you're out there, is there any update on where this falls > on the official blackbox TODO list? > better question: IS THERE a todo list? and is there any update at all WRT blackbox development? DC -- Derek Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] "All men by nature desire to know." -- Aristotle.
Re: bbappconf
On Wed, 2001-11-14 at 09:20, Derek Cunningham wrote:
> ok... to clarify: bbappconf removed all the window decorations (including
> title bar). Now, having done this, I fully expected to have to alt-click to
> move my windows, since that's what I had to do with Eterm when it was
> borderless, but this doesn't work.
>
> when bbappconf removes the window decorations on aterm, alt+click doesn't
> work... and I want to know why... this is utterly annoying!
Okay. Yes, you're absolutely right. And this is a blackbox issue.
Blackbox is broke WRT windows that have decorations removed from them.
I've added code to bbkeys to allow decoration toggling (toggleDecor,
which will add or strip decorations from the currently-focused window)
and went as far as I can go. Blackbox's internals are broken also with
regards to being able to tell other apps what the decoration state of a
given window is. I've patched blackbox to at least tell external
applications whether a given window is decorated or not, but it really
does no good because there's the other problem in which blackbox acts
like it's going to let you move or resize a now-undecorated window, but
doesn't really do it.
I've approached Raven (who responded to me, but it's been so long I
forget what was said) and nyz (who said that the version of KDE that he
runs doesn't have that issue =:) ) about this and it never went
anywhere.
So, Jeff, if you're out there, is there any update on where this falls
on the official blackbox TODO list?
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Re: bbappconf
On Wed, Nov14,01 07:55, Es Bee Ex wrote: > On Wed, 14 Nov 2001 08:42:11 -0500 > Derek Cunningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov14,01 02:34, Es Bee Ex wrote: > > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 19:14:25 -0500 > > > Derek Cunningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I removed the > > > > window decorations from aterm, but now I can't move it anywhere! > > > > > > > Hold alt and click in middle of the window to drag. > > > > > > > Is this a feature? Why is it going to be different from moving all my other > > windows? > > > > Yes. It will be different because you don't have to click title-bar to move it... > but now that I read your original message, you never said the title-bar > was gone did you? It must be some bbappconf feature preventing you from moving > it around then, because you should still be able to move a window without > decorations. :) > ok... to clarify: bbappconf removed all the window decorations (including title bar). Now, having done this, I fully expected to have to alt-click to move my windows, since that's what I had to do with Eterm when it was borderless, but this doesn't work. Also, I read YOUR message wrong... and though you mean I had to alt+middle-click in order to move the window. I've always been aware of alt+click to move windows, and in fact, I use it more than anything else. when bbappconf removes the window decorations on aterm, alt+click doesn't work... and I want to know why... this is utterly annoying! DC -- Derek Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] "All men by nature desire to know." -- Aristotle.
Re: bbappconf
On Wed, Nov14,01 02:34, Es Bee Ex wrote: > On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 19:14:25 -0500 > Derek Cunningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I removed the > > window decorations from aterm, but now I can't move it anywhere! > > > Hold alt and click in middle of the window to drag. > Is this a feature? Why is it going to be different from moving all my other windows? DC > SB-X > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 9788597 -- Derek Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] "All men by nature desire to know." -- Aristotle.
bbappconf
Blackbox, Umm... I'm running bbappconf... and first off, neat. Second... I removed the window decorations from aterm, but now I can't move it anywhere! At least with a borderless eterm (using it's commandline options) I could use ALT+MOUSEBUTTON1 to move it around. Ideas how I can move these around? thanks. DC -- Derek Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] "All men by nature desire to know." -- Aristotle.
Re: bbappconf
Well, after playing with it a little, I found out that using -s and -i together will iconify the damn thing after all :) > I also had problems with the -i option. I patched it to get it working for > me, as well as addded some new options to the application for setting > windows' positions and sizes. See attached. :) > > xOr > - -- > I am damn unsatisfied to be killed in this way. > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > iD8DBQE71mIU8mPQRGtSu14RAvR6AKCCY6cMJ5glXcMIa421tTCiKRJ/hwCeKyaT > TDHOmYweC18w0Oz0zfi6blA= > =Ymd/ > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > Timofei Piatenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bbappconf
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On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, tp40 wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I just got bbappconf up and running. I have a question:
>
> when I run it, it appears as an annoying rectangle at the top-left hand
> corner of my scree, kinda like bbpager, except it's just a plain little
> block. How can I get rid of it? There's no "-i" option for bbappconf it
> appears ...
I also had problems with the -i option. I patched it to get it working for
me, as well as addded some new options to the application for setting
windows' positions and sizes. See attached. :)
xOr
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diff -u bbappconf-0.0.1-peak3/appconf.hh bbappconf-xor/appconf.hh
--- bbappconf-0.0.1-peak3/appconf.hhMon Feb 19 12:40:11 2001
+++ bbappconf-xor/appconf.hhTue Aug 7 02:23:52 2001
@@ -37,7 +37,11 @@
unsigned int getStartOnDesktop(void) { return start_on_desktop;}
bool getMaxHoriz(void) { return max_horiz;}
bool getMaxVert(void) {return max_vert;}
-
+ int getPositionX(void) {return position_x;}
+ int getPositionY(void) {return position_y;}
+ int getWidth(void) {return width;}
+ int getHeight(void) {return height;}
+
char *getName(void) { return appname;}
char *getClass(void) { return appclass;}
@@ -47,6 +51,10 @@
void setMaxHoriz(bool _max_horiz) {max_horiz=_max_horiz;}
void setStartOnDesktop(unsigned int _start_on_desktop)
{start_on_desktop=_start_on_desktop;}
+ void setPositionX(int _position_x) {position_x=_position_x;}
+ void setPositionY(int _position_y) {position_y=_position_y;}
+ void setWidth(int _width) {width=_width;}
+ void setHeight(int _height) {height=_height;}
private:
bool sticky;
@@ -54,7 +62,9 @@
bool max_horiz;
bool max_vert;
unsigned int start_on_desktop;
- char *appname;
+ int position_x, position_y;
+ int width, height;
+ char *appname;
char *appclass;
};
diff -u bbappconf-0.0.1-peak3/bbappconf.cc bbappconf-xor/bbappconf.cc
--- bbappconf-0.0.1-peak3/bbappconf.cc Mon Feb 19 13:57:03 2001
+++ bbappconf-xor/bbappconf.cc Tue Aug 7 02:47:38 2001
@@ -35,6 +35,7 @@
config_db = XrmGetFileDatabase("config.bb");
+ iconic = options->iconic;
desktop_nr=0;
current_desktop_nr=-1;
wm_init=False;
@@ -43,7 +44,7 @@
pushed_app=0;
MakeWindow(False);
wminterface->moduleInit();
- eventLoop();
+ eventLoop();
}
ToolWindow::~ToolWindow() {
@@ -92,9 +93,6 @@
desktop_nr=0;
-// LinkedListIterator win_it(appWindowList);
-// for (; win_it.current(); win_it++)
-//addAppWindow(win_it.current(),True);
XClearWindow(getXDisplay(), framewin);
}
@@ -245,6 +168,16 @@
getWMInterface()->sendWindowToDesktop(*win,
resource->getAppConf(i)->getStartOnDesktop()-1);
}
+ /* set window size */
+ if (resource->getAppConf(i)->getWidth()>=0 &&
+ resource->getAppConf(i)->getHeight()>=0) {
+
+getWMInterface()->resizeWindow(*win,resource->getAppConf(i)->getWidth(),resource->getAppConf(i)->getHeight());
+
+ }
+ /* set window position */
+ if (resource->getAppConf(i)->getPositionX()!=- &&
+ resource->getAppConf(i)->getPositionY()!=-) {
+
+getWMInterface()->moveWindow(*win,resource->getAppConf(i)->getPositionX(),resource->getAppConf(i)->getPositionY());
+
+ }
if (resource->getAppConf(i)->getMaxHoriz() ||
resource->getAppConf(i)->getMaxVert()) {
if (XGetWindowProperty(getXDisplay(), *win,
@@ -413,12 +346,6 @@
XSetWindowBackgroundPixmap(getXDisplay(), framewin, pixmap.frame);
}
- if (!withdrawn && resource->report.auto_raise) {
-XRaiseWindow(getXDisplay(),framewin);
-lower=False;
- }
- else lower=True;
-
if (!reconfigure) {
// gcv.font = resource->menu.font->fid;
@@ -460,7 +387,7 @@
XMapWindow(getXDisplay(), framewin);
XMapSubwindows(getXDisplay(), framewin);
if (iconic) {
-getWMInterface()->setIconicState(framewin,true);
+getWMInterface()->setIconicState(framewin, True);
}
}
diff -u bbappconf-0.0.1-peak3/bbappconf.hh bbappconf-xor/bbappconf.hh
--- bbappconf-0.0.1-peak3/bbappconf.hh Tue Oct 10 14:34:27 2000
+++ bbappconf-xor/bbappconf
Re: bbappconf
Hello, Which version did you compile ? I just dowloaded bbappconf-0.0.1-peak3 from the bbtools site and the -i option works for me. John On Monday 22 October 2001 19:31, tp40 wrote: > Well, when I try to run it with "-i" command, nothing happens > ... "-h" option is completely ignored ... i compiled this from source, and > there were no errors. also, when i change the position of the app in > bbappconf.bb file, that is also ignored as well. looks like bb is ignoring > all display options related to this app ... > > On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, John Kennis wrote: > > Hello, > > > > It does has the "-i" option. > > See bbappconf -h for all options. > > > > John > > > > On Monday 22 October 2001 01:41, tp40 wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I just got bbappconf up and running. I have a question: > > > > > > when I run it, it appears as an annoying rectangle at the top-left hand > > > corner of my scree, kinda like bbpager, except it's just a plain little > > > block. How can I get rid of it? There's no "-i" option for bbappconf it > > > appears ... > > > > > > > > > Timofei Piatenko > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Timofei Piatenko > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: bbappconf
Well, when I try to run it with "-i" command, nothing happens ... "-h" option is completely ignored ... i compiled this from source, and there were no errors. also, when i change the position of the app in bbappconf.bb file, that is also ignored as well. looks like bb is ignoring all display options related to this app ... On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, John Kennis wrote: > Hello, > > It does has the "-i" option. > See bbappconf -h for all options. > > John > > On Monday 22 October 2001 01:41, tp40 wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I just got bbappconf up and running. I have a question: > > > > when I run it, it appears as an annoying rectangle at the top-left hand > > corner of my scree, kinda like bbpager, except it's just a plain little > > block. How can I get rid of it? There's no "-i" option for bbappconf it > > appears ... > > > > > > Timofei Piatenko > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Timofei Piatenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bbappconf
Hello, It does has the "-i" option. See bbappconf -h for all options. John On Monday 22 October 2001 01:41, tp40 wrote: > Hi all, > > I just got bbappconf up and running. I have a question: > > when I run it, it appears as an annoying rectangle at the top-left hand > corner of my scree, kinda like bbpager, except it's just a plain little > block. How can I get rid of it? There's no "-i" option for bbappconf it > appears ... > > > Timofei Piatenko > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: bbappconf
On Sun, Oct 21, 2001 at 07:41:31PM -0400, tp40 wrote: > Hi all, > > I just got bbappconf up and running. I have a question: > > when I run it, it appears as an annoying rectangle at the top-left hand > corner of my scree, kinda like bbpager, except it's just a plain little > block. How can I get rid of it? There's no "-i" option for bbappconf it > appears ... Well, you could run bbpager on top of it to cover it up. I'm sure others will have a better solution. -- T
bbappconf
Hi all, I just got bbappconf up and running. I have a question: when I run it, it appears as an annoying rectangle at the top-left hand corner of my scree, kinda like bbpager, except it's just a plain little block. How can I get rid of it? There's no "-i" option for bbappconf it appears ... Timofei Piatenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
new features patch for bbappconf
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Hello All,
This is my first patch for BlackBox (actually my first patch for any open
source project :), so I'm hoping I am doing this all correctly, please
don't get too upset if I am not..
This patch adds new functionality to the bbappconf tool. The author states
on the bbtools page that he is stopping development until he can figure
out if he can roll the application into blackbox itself. If the author of
bbappconf could contact me, I could probly help in that job. Anyhow.. the
new features! With this patch you can specify the coordinates to place a
window (upper left corner), and you can now also specify the width/height
of a window. The entries for the bbappconf.bb file are such as follows:
bbappconf.1.positionX: 10
bbappconf.1.positionY: 300
bbappconf.1.width: 280
bbappconf.1.height: 400
If only one of either pair is specified (x but not y), then nothing is
done with that pair. Position can be specified as a negative number (i
used - as the "illegal value" so that would actually not work, i doubt
anyone is putting windows that far into negative space..anyone disagree
with this?). For the width and height, a negative value is disregarded
entirely, they must be positive numbers.
Please give me any feedback you have regarding this all.
xOr
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diff -r -u bbappconf-0.0.1-peak3~/appconf.hh bbappconf-0.0.1-peak3/appconf.hh
--- bbappconf-0.0.1-peak3~/appconf.hh Mon Feb 19 12:40:11 2001
+++ bbappconf-0.0.1-peak3/appconf.hhSat Jul 14 03:12:43 2001
@@ -37,7 +37,11 @@
unsigned int getStartOnDesktop(void) { return start_on_desktop;}
bool getMaxHoriz(void) { return max_horiz;}
bool getMaxVert(void) {return max_vert;}
-
+ int getPositionX(void) {return position_x;}
+ int getPositionY(void) {return position_y;}
+ int getWidth(void) {return width;}
+ int getHeight(void) {return height;}
+
char *getName(void) { return appname;}
char *getClass(void) { return appclass;}
@@ -47,6 +51,10 @@
void setMaxHoriz(bool _max_horiz) {max_horiz=_max_horiz;}
void setStartOnDesktop(unsigned int _start_on_desktop)
{start_on_desktop=_start_on_desktop;}
+ void setPositionX(int _position_x) {position_x=_position_x;}
+ void setPositionY(int _position_y) {position_y=_position_y;}
+ void setWidth(int _width) {width=_width;}
+ void setHeight(int _height) {height=_height;}
private:
bool sticky;
@@ -54,7 +62,9 @@
bool max_horiz;
bool max_vert;
unsigned int start_on_desktop;
- char *appname;
+ int position_x, position_y;
+ int width, height;
+ char *appname;
char *appclass;
};
diff -r -u bbappconf-0.0.1-peak3~/bbappconf.cc bbappconf-0.0.1-peak3/bbappconf.cc
--- bbappconf-0.0.1-peak3~/bbappconf.cc Mon Feb 19 13:57:03 2001
+++ bbappconf-0.0.1-peak3/bbappconf.cc Sat Jul 14 03:15:53 2001
@@ -245,6 +245,16 @@
getWMInterface()->sendWindowToDesktop(*win,
resource->getAppConf(i)->getStartOnDesktop()-1);
}
+ /* set window size */
+ if (resource->getAppConf(i)->getWidth()>=0 &&
+ resource->getAppConf(i)->getHeight()>=0) {
+
+getWMInterface()->resizeWindow(*win,resource->getAppConf(i)->getWidth(),resource->getAppConf(i)->getHeight());
+
+ }
+ /* set window position */
+ if (resource->getAppConf(i)->getPositionX()!=- &&
+ resource->getAppConf(i)->getPositionY()!=-) {
+
+getWMInterface()->moveWindow(*win,resource->getAppConf(i)->getPositionX(),resource->getAppConf(i)->getPositionY());
+
+ }
if (resource->getAppConf(i)->getMaxHoriz() ||
resource->getAppConf(i)->getMaxVert()) {
if (XGetWindowProperty(getXDisplay(), *win,
diff -r -u bbappconf-0.0.1-peak3~/resource.cc bbappconf-0.0.1-peak3/resource.cc
--- bbappconf-0.0.1-peak3~/resource.cc Mon Feb 19 13:17:56 2001
+++ bbappconf-0.0.1-peak3/resource.cc Sat Jul 14 03:12:25 2001
@@ -61,6 +61,8 @@
int i;
char rclass[40];
char rname[40];
+ int position_x, position_y;
+ int width, height;
if ((XrmGetResource(resource_db, "bbappconf.numberOf.configs",
"Bbappconf.NumberOf.Configs",
@@ -164,7 +166,50 @@
app_conf[i].setMaxHoriz(false);
}
-
+sprintf(rclass, "Bbappc
new versions of bbppp and bbappconf
Hello, There are new version of bbppp and bbappconf Jon Franklin send me the patch for upgrading bbppp-0.2.0 to bbppp-0.2.1, thanks =) These are the changes he made: - Using the resumeCommand no longer gets bbppp confused to the point where you can no longer redial - Pounding on the switch button repeatedly no longer generates multiple startCommands and stopCommands, which can really hose things up! - Status lights always get cleared now on manual disconnect, instead of turning to the switching color. - switchColor.switching is now used more intuitively (at least, to me :-). The switch light changes to that color as soon as the user clicks to connect or disconnect. - troughput rates >= 10kbps no longer overflow the throughput window. bbappconf: Added vertical an horizontal maximize options, just change the resources values bbappconf.1.maxVert and bbappconf.1.maxHoriz. Let me know if it works ok, if I don't get any bug reports I'll clean up the code, add documentation and make it an official release. Get it at bbtools.thelinuxcommunity.org greets, John Kennis
Re: Positioning with bbappconf
On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Kevin Oleksy wrote: > I'm using bbappconf to start 2 decorless aterms on the same desktop, and > when they open up they're both on top of eachother (they're the same > size too). Is there anyway to get bbappconf to position one right below > the other or is this done with aterm itself? I don't know how to do it > either way.. rxvt and xterm can use a geometry resource or command line option; aterm probably has the same -- read the manpage for aterm. -geometry WIDTHxHEIGHT+XOFF+YOFF Maybe: aterm -geometry +50+50 aterm -geometry +50+400 Jeremy C. Reed http://www.reedmedia.net/ http://bsd.reedmedia.net/ -- BSD news and resources http://www.isp-faq.com/-- find answers to your questions
Positioning with bbappconf
I'm using bbappconf to start 2 decorless aterms on the same desktop, and when they open up they're both on top of eachother (they're the same size too). Is there anyway to get bbappconf to position one right below the other or is this done with aterm itself? I don't know how to do it either way.. Thanks, helios
User Guide (was: Re: bbappconf)
Yesterday at 3:22pm, jim mumbled: > The approach I use is to follow all the links on the bb home page looking for > examples and follow all the links on those pages. I read every e-mail in the > mailing list and occasionally go back to the archives and browse the headings. > There are a couple of long threads that will help you out. > > Soon, I am going to post a proposal for a comprehensive blackbox user's guide. > Blackbox deserves to be made more available to users who are not professional > software developers, without burdening those same developers with routine and > repetitious questions. I think that's a very sound idea. Perhaps stuff from the manpage could merge with a user guide. The user guide should imho cover all of the bbtools as well, as well as installation instructions (which typically are not in man pages) wilbert
Re: bbappconf
On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 12:20:03 +0100, Ole Sebastian Stein said: > Now, how do I configure it? I've tried looking around but I must be > blindfolded because I cannot find the info.]-( (<-- Me being > blindfolded :) > Actually, I've never even tried to use bbappconf, I just happened to recognize what your compiler was complaining about. No, you're not blind, I love blackbox (and associated utilities), but even the most critical documentation is often only a brief off-topic comment in an e-mail. The approach I use is to follow all the links on the bb home page looking for examples and follow all the links on those pages. I read every e-mail in the mailing list and occasionally go back to the archives and browse the headings. There are a couple of long threads that will help you out. Soon, I am going to post a proposal for a comprehensive blackbox user's guide. Blackbox deserves to be made more available to users who are not professional software developers, without burdening those same developers with routine and repetitious questions. - jim
Re: bbappconf
On Wednesday 15 November 2000 11:51, jim wrote: | > checking for XpmFree in -lXpm... no | > configure: error: XpmFree not found in -lXpm | > I run Debian potato. Does anybody know what I need to install? | If you don't have the x-pixmap libraries (xpm), install the very latest. | In particular, you need libXpm.so.4.xx. Thanks. The deb i needed was xpm4g-dev from stable. Now, how do I configure it? I've tried looking around but I must be blindfolded because I cannot find the info.]-( (<-- Me being blindfolded :) -- Ole Sebastian Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bbappconf
On Tue, 14 Nov 2000 17:53:20 +0100, Ole Sebastian Stein said: > I try to run ./configure when installing bbappconf-0.0.1-peak. > > I get the following error(s): > > checking for XpmFree in -lXpm... no > configure: error: XpmFree not found in -lXpm > --- > > Then it aborts. > I run Debian potato. Does anybody know what I need to install? If you have the x-pixmap libraries, they may not be up to date enough. I've noticed that these bbtools can require the very latest libraries. For example, blackbox itself runs fine on SuSE 6.2, but bbkeys requires SuSE 6.4. If you don't have the x-pixmap libraries (xpm), install the very latest. In particular, you need libXpm.so.4.xx. - jim
bbappconf
I try to run ./configure when installing bbappconf-0.0.1-peak. I get the following error(s): --- checking for X... libraries /usr/X11R6/lib, headers /usr/X11R6/include checking for dnet_ntoa in -ldnet... no checking for dnet_ntoa in -ldnet_stub... no checking for gethostbyname... yes checking for connect... yes checking for remove... yes checking for shmat... yes checking for IceConnectionNumber in -lICE... yes checking for XOpenDisplay in -lX11... yes checking for XpmFree in -lXpm... no configure: error: XpmFree not found in -lXpm --- Then it aborts. I run Debian potato. Does anybody know what I need to install? Thanks. -- Ole Sebastian Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bbappconf(!@#$%^)
On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Justin A wrote: > Ok, I installed it ok, played with xterm -blah, then tried to set up > everybuddy: > > ! WM_CLASS(STRING) = "everybuddy", "Everybuddy" > bbappconf.4.classHint.name: everybuddy > bbappconf.4.classHint.class:EveryBuddy Try: bbappconf.4.classHint.class:Everybuddy > bbappconf.4.startOnWorkspace: 3 > > Yes, numberof configs is 4, > No, It doesn't work. > !@#$%^ > > -Justin > >
Re: bbappconf
John Kennis wrote: > I'll be adding some stuff. At least if you guys find the tool usefull. I'm still figuring out how to use it, but yes, I find it useful. -- Paul Tomblin, Software Developer ---begin stuff I'm forced to include-- The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify SunGard Trading Systems immediately at (201) 617-2600 or [EMAIL PROTECTED], and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. --end-- Leader Kibo does not require the preceeding disclaimer, but it is allowed. Sorry, George.
Re: bbappconf
On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Paul Tomblin wrote: > I've got it up and working, and it's great that I'll be able to make a > .xinitrc that places xterms in different workspaces (this might be just the > spur I need to drop WindowMaker). But I have a couple of questions about it. > Is it supposed to do the same thing as bbpager as well? The documentation > seems to indicate that, as well as all the options like > "bbappconf.desktop.width: 40", but I don't see any such thing. And > if that's not the case, what is the point of that sticky empty window that it > brings up? I don't see any point to it. > > Guess what tool it was based on ;) No the window for the moment is just a placeholder (you have to map a window before it can receive info from Blackbox). I'm planning to add some features to that window, like starting up a configuration app, stop messing with my windows, maybe save session. The current peak release is just a snapshot of what I have untill now, so I'll be adding some stuff. At least if you guys find the tool usefull. John Kennis
Re: bbappconf (addendum)
On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Jon Pennington wrote: > Okay, I saw what it does now. The implementation is still a bit fuzzy, > and I'd really like to see some sort of NOWTO in the /usr/share/bbtools > directory. It will be there in the final 0.0.1 release (I hate writing docs so it's always te last thing I do, if at all). > One other quick question; can you add a -i option like > bbkeys so that I don't have to look at the bloody thing? ;) > > Heh, it's a pre-release it will show something usefull in the future =) I'll also add the -i option.
Re: bbappconf
On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Paul Tomblin wrote: > John Kennis wrote: > > I just put up a preliminary version of bbappconf, a tool to set decoration > > and workspace of windows in Blackbox. > > > > Just have a look and let me know any suggestions/ideas you have. > > Why does configure require XpmFree? I didn't need Xpm to compile blackbox. > Because I left it there by mistake, I'll remove it.
Re: bbappconf(!@#$%^)
Ok, I installed it ok, played with xterm -blah, then tried to set up everybuddy: ! WM_CLASS(STRING) = "everybuddy", "Everybuddy" bbappconf.4.classHint.name: everybuddy bbappconf.4.classHint.class:EveryBuddy bbappconf.4.startOnWorkspace: 3 Yes, numberof configs is 4, No, It doesn't work. !@#$%^ -Justin
bbappconf
I've got it up and working, and it's great that I'll be able to make a .xinitrc that places xterms in different workspaces (this might be just the spur I need to drop WindowMaker). But I have a couple of questions about it. Is it supposed to do the same thing as bbpager as well? The documentation seems to indicate that, as well as all the options like "bbappconf.desktop.width: 40", but I don't see any such thing. And if that's not the case, what is the point of that sticky empty window that it brings up? I don't see any point to it. -- Paul Tomblin, Software Developer ---begin stuff I'm forced to include-- The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify SunGard Trading Systems immediately at (201) 617-2600 or [EMAIL PROTECTED], and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. --end-- Leader Kibo does not require the preceeding disclaimer, but it is allowed. Sorry, George.
Re: bbappconf (addendum)
Okay, I saw what it does now. The implementation is still a bit fuzzy, and I'd really like to see some sort of NOWTO in the /usr/share/bbtools directory. One other quick question; can you add a -i option like bbkeys so that I don't have to look at the bloody thing? ;) -- -=|JP|=-"Why, oh, why didn't I take the blue pill?" Jon Pennington| Atipa Linux Solutions -o) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.atipa.com/\\ Kansas City, MO, USA | 816-595-3000 x1550 _\_V 6D04 39E0 CAE9 9ADA 2CA3 2EBE 898A 6C37 CA1E A29C -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! Oh, and delete some random files in your $HOME...
Re: bbappconf
John Kennis wrote: > > Just have a look and let me know any suggestions/ideas you have. Because I know you write good apps, I'd like to extend this preemptive `thank you'. Because I have been on Mars for the last two weeks, and have no idea what this tool does, I'd like to ask `wtf'. I built and installed it successfully, but have absolutely no idea what it is or how to use it. Can you provide some sort of documentation? The README was a bit vague... -- -=|JP|=-"Why, oh, why didn't I take the blue pill?" Jon Pennington| Atipa Linux Solutions -o) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.atipa.com/\\ Kansas City, MO, USA | 816-595-3000 x1550 _\_V 6D04 39E0 CAE9 9ADA 2CA3 2EBE 898A 6C37 CA1E A29C -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! Oh, and delete some random files in your $HOME...
Re: bbappconf
John Kennis wrote: > I just put up a preliminary version of bbappconf, a tool to set decoration > and workspace of windows in Blackbox. > > Just have a look and let me know any suggestions/ideas you have. Why does configure require XpmFree? I didn't need Xpm to compile blackbox. -- Paul Tomblin, Software Developer ---begin stuff I'm forced to include-- The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify SunGard Trading Systems immediately at (201) 617-2600 or [EMAIL PROTECTED], and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. --end-- Leader Kibo does not require the preceeding disclaimer, but it is allowed. Sorry, George.
bbappconf
Hello, I just put up a preliminary version of bbappconf, a tool to set decoration and workspace of windows in Blackbox. Just have a look and let me know any suggestions/ideas you have. Possible options I am alreay thinking about: - session saving - adding configuration tool Get it at bbtools.thelinuxcommunity.org John Kennis
