Re: [Blind-Computing] daily information
From your daily tip today, I am getting the feeling that most of us are being conned by people who manufacture batteries. Can I be right? - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 7:30 AM Subject: [Blind-Computing] daily information Daily Tip: Large Charge No one is really satisfied with the state of rechargeable batteries these days. Laptops have grown so powerful that you may not be able to watch a whole DVD movie before the battery quits. And expensive battery packs can wear out in as little as a year, depending on usage patterns. If you're faced with buying a replacement, and you're willing to accept some extra weight, bulk, and cost, look into the availability of an extended battery pack for your model of notebook. An extended battery has more cells and can provide significantly longer charge life. Daily Term: LOL An abbreviation for the phrase Laughing out loud that is commonly used in email messages. David Ferrin Most people don't know what they're doing and a lot of them are really good at it. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[Blind-Computing] Looking for a Mr. Coffee Junior coffee maker
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[Blind-Computing] Looking to purchase a Mr. Coffee Junior coffee maker
Hello all: Sorry for my first attempt at sending this message and am now resending it with my request. I hope someone on this list can help me. My coffee maker has died after ten years of excellent service and I need to purchase a new one. Does anyone know an internet site where I can purchase the same type of Coffee Maker? The last time I logged on to Amazon I was not able to find what I wanted except for the paper filters that go with the product. Francis Khan For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] daily information
It would seem to me that the batteries included at the time of purchase of a lap top are adequate but possibly not the most powerful simply because that would noticeably increase the price of the unit. Think about it price for many people is the final yard stick where a small number of us do consider other things like performance ETC. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: Francis E. Khan fek...@tstt.net.tt To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] daily information From your daily tip today, I am getting the feeling that most of us are being conned by people who manufacture batteries. Can I be right? - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 7:30 AM Subject: [Blind-Computing] daily information Daily Tip: Large Charge No one is really satisfied with the state of rechargeable batteries these days. Laptops have grown so powerful that you may not be able to watch a whole DVD movie before the battery quits. And expensive battery packs can wear out in as little as a year, depending on usage patterns. If you're faced with buying a replacement, and you're willing to accept some extra weight, bulk, and cost, look into the availability of an extended battery pack for your model of notebook. An extended battery has more cells and can provide significantly longer charge life. Daily Term: LOL An abbreviation for the phrase Laughing out loud that is commonly used in email messages. David Ferrin Most people don't know what they're doing and a lot of them are really good at it. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] Looking to purchase a Mr. Coffee Junior coffeemaker
You might tried: http://www.MrCoffee.com The upper case M and C in MrCoffee aren't required, you can use the lower case letters but I thought it would sound better if you're using a screen reader. HTH Holland's Person, Bill E-Mail: billgal...@centurytel.net - Evil indeed is the man who has not one woman to mourn him. - Sir Arthur Konan Doyle; -- Watson, on the death of Selden in The Hound of the Baskervilles For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [Blind-Computing] Information on Pages
Hi Heather, I will try. Niamh - Original Message - From: heather kd5cbl kd5...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 3:09 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Information on Pages Hello, I think you might subscribe the the blind mac group and they can give you lots of info about mac programs like pages, Iwork, numbers etc. Several of them have different podcasts on these subjects as well. Here is the link to the group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en Heather - Original Message - From: Niamh niam.mcke...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 7:51 AM Subject: [Blind-Computing] Information on Pages Hi All, I am preparing myself for a possible transition to apple at work. thanks for the help you gave me I stopped pannicking and started learning. Does anybody have a link to any information on Pages? In particular I am looking for information on text editting in apple. J-Tools enables me to edit quickly, is there as much felexibilty in Pages or any other apple product? Many For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[Blind-Computing] testing out the new footer
Please in the future contact Bob, Rick or me using the address I've placed in the footer message. I'm taking a few days off so if you try contacting me directly as often happens you might just be waiting a while for an answer. Besides you get all of us at that point so increasing your chances of receiving a timely reply. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] Send Space
Hi AllI recently joined Blindmice for audio described videos. I couldn't seem to access it without Send Space, is this my stupidity or am I right? It seems a bit scarrey if it could introduce viruses. Niamh - Original Message - From: Dan Mccurley bearea...@bellsouth.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 12:24 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Send Space It is file sharing service. - Original Message - From: Niamh niam.mcke...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 4:27 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] Send Space What is Send Space? Niamh For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
[Blind-Computing] Optimal netbook power settings
Hey everybody, I'm using XP SP3 on my Asus netbook and I'm unclear about which power settings will avail me of the maximum battery life between charges. Currently, I'm getting only about 45 minutes with the following max battery settings: Power Options Properties Power Schemes Alarms Power Meter Advanced Hibernate Select the power scheme with the most appropriate settings for this computer. Note that changing the settings below will modify the selected scheme. Power schemes Always On Save As... Delete Settings for Always On power scheme When computer is: Running on Plugged in batteries Turn off monitor: After 20 mins After 15 mins Turn off hard disks: Never After 30 mins System standby: Never Never OK Cancel Apply Normal usage for this netbook is Internet browsing, checking e-mail and e-book reading, with occasional audio streaming from the web. Any suggestions would be most appreciated. Thanks, Norma For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] Looking to purchase a Mr. Coffee Junior coffeemaker
You might try pricegrabber and type in the product. After ten years, perhaps they don't make it anymore. They do have that talking programmable coffee maker; I saw it for 40 dollars! Heather For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] realtime antivirus antispyware protection
Thank you for that helpful information Jackie. I planned on doing what you said when others mentioned something similar. Your detailed explanation helped a lot. On 12/27/2010 11:19 PM, Jackie McBride wrote: Mike, u wrote: Hi Jackie; I am going to take this topic back to one from earlier today. There was a discussion about whether or not to run Microsoft Security Essentials Super Anti Spyware in Real Time mode at the same time. In your professional opinion, if you were running both of these programs how would you run the 2? Meaning, would you run 1 in Real Time not the other or, run both in Real Time? Mike, much depends on what the 2 programs do. Let me give a bit of background, then perhaps, by way of that, address your question. In the not so very distant past, spyware viruses were pretty much distinct entities, the programs designed to protect the computer from each did quite different things. Antivirus programs tended to look for what's called file signatures, e.g., certain strings in files that were suggestive of a virus, while antispyware programs tended to monitor things like registry changes, where the browser was being taken to, etc. That's fairly oversimplified, but the crux was that 1 antivirus 1 antispyware program could generally run together in realtime w/o conflict. Malware has, unfortunately, become much more sophisticated. Viruses drop trojans which create a backdoor into your computer allow all kinds of information to be passed to some1, e.g., spyware. Thus, the distinction between viruses spyware-- other types of malware, for that matter--have blurred considerably over the past few years. The result is that antivirus programs have evolved to become antivirus/antispyware programs, trying to become, as it were, all protection for all malware, all things to all people, etc. The answer to your question is that it really depends on what the programs do. If the antivirus program confines itself to looking for file signatures, etc., while the antispyware program monitors registry changes browser redirects, then it's probably safe. If, on the other hand, the 2 programs monitor for similar things, then conflict can does result. The problem further arises when both try to quarantine something at the same time, obviously, it is for this reason that malware experts suggest running only 1 realtime security suite type program, e.g., antivirus/antispyware program, at any given time. What I personally do is to run my antivirus/antispyware program (Avast) in realtime. Then I scan w/Superantispyware or MalwareBytes weekly or so, just to get rid of tracking cookies other annoying nasties that may have popped up. BTW, 1 thing that can really help keep the bugs in check is to simply delete your temporary internet files often--lots lots of crap-ola gets in there. So what I personally would do would be to run Microsoft Security Essentials in realtime, let SAS be an on-demand scanner. I know some listers have run both w/o difficulty, but I can't help wondering what would happen if both try to quarantine the same threat--neither 1 might win your protection may well be compromised. I remember getting this as a first exercise of my malware removal training, this is pretty much how I answered it then, too, passed, so hopefully it'll suffice. I hope I've made myself sufficiently clear, invite further queries if I haven't. Blessings for a wonderful holiday season. On 12/27/10, Mike Barbara In Arcadiamb69ma...@charter.net wrote: Hi Jackie; I am going to take this topic back to one from earlier today. There was a discussion about whether or not to run Microsoft Security Essentials Super Anti Spyware in Real Time mode at the same time. In your professional opinion, if you were running both of these programs how would you run the 2? Meaning, would you run 1 in Real Time not the other or, run both in Real Time? Personally I am not a heavy user of the Internet except for emailing and would like to hear a professional opinion on what the pros cons might be. I am not trying to discredit any of the ideas/opinions of others that contributed to this topic earlier but, as a amateur computer user and having learned most of what I've learned via trial error, lists' like this, I would like to hear from someone who deals with this type of issue on a professional basis. All advice/information will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Jackie McBride To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus Andre, if I were working in the environment your nephew is working in, I'd do it that way as well. But u I both know that most residential soho customers do not walk around w/recent images of their OS or even backups of their data on a thumb or even an external drive. it's not possible for us to have clean installation discs of all
Re: [Blind-Computing] Creating Message Rules was Outlook Express Columns view
hello mike i have managed to finally create a message rule and i have saved the info you sent to me as a word document in notepad. however i need to do one more thing. although i managed to get all to go in the t a f n folder it also includes personal emails to my email address. i have an email address with t a f n and of course all those go to the t a f n folder as well. now how can i prevent personal emails from going to the other folder without deleting the rule and starting all over again and of course thank you for the update for m s e that you sent when replying to Gerald and Andre Yvonne - Original Message - From: Mike Barbara In Arcadia mb69ma...@charter.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Creating Message Rules was Outlook Express Columns view Hi Yvonne; If the steps I sent you don't answer your questions, Forward me the email you are trying to make a message rule for at the email address below and I'll modify the steps for the specific email. mb69ma...@charter.net Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: yvonne oliver To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Outlook Express Columns view hi mike you answered something a while ago for me but i can't remember what to do. i asked about message rules. i can get to these stages 1 find required message and open the message. arrow down to body of message. 3 press alt key and find thing called create message rule. 4 checkmark where the from line says contains people. 5 checkmark move to the specified folder. the next 2 stages are where i am stuck apply this rule after the message arrives. not sure what to do here. name of the rule not sure what to do there. then ok wonder if you could help me with this thank you 2 move to the specified folder3 Yvonne - Original Message - From: Mike Barbara In Arcadia mb69ma...@charter.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 11:09 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Outlook Express Columns view Hi Yvonne; My list goes as follows. 1. Attachments. 2. From. 3. Subject. 4. Received. Make sure that your window is maximized. To do this, hold down the alt key, with alt key pressed press the spacebar, then let up on both keys , press the letter X. See if this helps. I hope this works. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: yvonne oliver To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Outlook Express Columns view was memo tothelist hi mike that's fine with me ii have managed to change the order they are in they are now 1 from 2 received 3 subject 4 attachment hopefully this is the correct order and maybe the order in which you have yours set to Yvonne - Original Message - From: Mike Barbara In Arcadia mb69ma...@charter.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 10:35 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Outlook Express Columns view was memo tothe list Hi Yvonne; I changed the subject line to reflect what we are discussing. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Mike Barbara In Arcadia To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] memo to the list Hi Yvonne; Which 4 items do you have checked when you look at the list of items checked, in which order do they appear? What I mean is, which is 1st or at the top of the list, which is 2nd, 3rd so forth? Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: yvonne oliver To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] memo to the list hi mike i have done the same as you and only checked 4 items however for some reason in my inbox some emails show the name of the person/company for instance t a f n then the remainder of the message. then when i open it i read the message and some only have what is mentioned in the subject box and not from the person or company who sent it did use to say from the person/company before i made those adjustments using the check/uncheck method any idea how i can get it back to how it was? thank youYvonne - Original Message - From: Mike Barbara In Arcadia mb69ma...@charter.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] memo to the list HI Yvonne;
Re: [Blind-Computing] Optimal netbook power settings
Well, Norma, u don't tell us what type of netbook it is, how big is the display, its resolution, etc. I do a couple things in this situation. Generallly speaking, there is 1 or a couple utilities located in the system tray to accomplish them. 1) I disable the camera enable it only when I want it. 2) When I can't connect to the internet, I disable the wireless. Usually the netbook senses when you're on battery dims the display. Unfortunately, it won't let u disable it or u could get superb battery life. I personally bought a bigger battery for mine which gives me about 10 hours battery life. BTW, just FYI, ( this has nothing to do w/battery life), I was having some severe issues w/my netbook until I went in disabled the gestures on my touchpad (control panel mouse pointing devices hardware settings). My issues are gone. Some of them included: difficulty using jaws find; Email disappearing while in the middle of writing it; Applications losing focus, etc. Try it--u might like it. I'd disable the bleapin thing entirely but my sighted family members sometimes get on here so I can't kill it completely, dad gum it! On 12/28/10, Norma A. Boge nab...@mchsi.com wrote: Hey everybody, I'm using XP SP3 on my Asus netbook and I'm unclear about which power settings will avail me of the maximum battery life between charges. Currently, I'm getting only about 45 minutes with the following max battery settings: Power Options Properties Power Schemes Alarms Power Meter Advanced Hibernate Select the power scheme with the most appropriate settings for this computer. Note that changing the settings below will modify the selected scheme. Power schemes Always On Save As... Delete Settings for Always On power scheme When computer is: Running on Plugged in batteries Turn off monitor: After 20 mins After 15 mins Turn off hard disks: Never After 30 mins System standby: Never Never OK Cancel Apply Normal usage for this netbook is Internet browsing, checking e-mail and e-book reading, with occasional audio streaming from the web. Any suggestions would be most appreciated. Thanks, Norma For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com -- Change the world--1 deed at a time Jackie McBride Scripting Classes: http://jawsscripting.lonsdalemedia.org homePage: www.abletec.serverheaven.net For technophobes: www.technophoeb.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] Window 7
I'm sorry to hear that Chris is not welcome on this list. I found his advice given kindly and informatively, not patronizing or belittling, as some others tend to do, who are kept on the list. Sunny Day Maria Campbell lucky1i...@sbcglobal.net When the power of love is stronger than the love of power, then the world will know peace. On 12/28/2010 12:52 AM, Don Marang wrote: Chris Hallsworth could go into great detail regarding exactly what normally will not work when attempting to use JAWS in Vista or Windows 7 guests within VMware. I believe it is the Freedom Scientific mirror display driver that crashes in a VMware Virtual Machine. Unfortunately, he is not wanted on this list anymore. To obtain his help in this area, I suggest joining the Blind Virtual Machines mailing list. b-v-m-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Don Marang There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any real substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am working on things that matter. Dean Kamen -- From: Welson welson...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 10:08 PM To: blindgeekz...@yahoogroups.com; blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: [Blind-Computing] Window 7 hello listers, I'm running window 7 on VMware player, a virtualization software. After i setup the operating system, it works fine but once i install Jaws, a save mode message was shown and prompt you to restore the system. After restored, window works fine again but jaws didn't installed. I tried to install different version of jaws but the result still the same. In order to test whether is the window or jaws problem, i have installed NVDA. At this time, window works fine and no problem occured. So, what's are the problem? any sollutions, ideas or suggestions? Your help will very appreciated. Thanks For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] realtime antivirus antispyware protection
Glad u found my explanations helpful, Matthew. On 12/28/10, matthew matthew.care...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for that helpful information Jackie. I planned on doing what you said when others mentioned something similar. Your detailed explanation helped a lot. On 12/27/2010 11:19 PM, Jackie McBride wrote: Mike, u wrote: Hi Jackie; I am going to take this topic back to one from earlier today. There was a discussion about whether or not to run Microsoft Security Essentials Super Anti Spyware in Real Time mode at the same time. In your professional opinion, if you were running both of these programs how would you run the 2? Meaning, would you run 1 in Real Time not the other or, run both in Real Time? Mike, much depends on what the 2 programs do. Let me give a bit of background, then perhaps, by way of that, address your question. In the not so very distant past, spyware viruses were pretty much distinct entities, the programs designed to protect the computer from each did quite different things. Antivirus programs tended to look for what's called file signatures, e.g., certain strings in files that were suggestive of a virus, while antispyware programs tended to monitor things like registry changes, where the browser was being taken to, etc. That's fairly oversimplified, but the crux was that 1 antivirus 1 antispyware program could generally run together in realtime w/o conflict. Malware has, unfortunately, become much more sophisticated. Viruses drop trojans which create a backdoor into your computer allow all kinds of information to be passed to some1, e.g., spyware. Thus, the distinction between viruses spyware-- other types of malware, for that matter--have blurred considerably over the past few years. The result is that antivirus programs have evolved to become antivirus/antispyware programs, trying to become, as it were, all protection for all malware, all things to all people, etc. The answer to your question is that it really depends on what the programs do. If the antivirus program confines itself to looking for file signatures, etc., while the antispyware program monitors registry changes browser redirects, then it's probably safe. If, on the other hand, the 2 programs monitor for similar things, then conflict can does result. The problem further arises when both try to quarantine something at the same time, obviously, it is for this reason that malware experts suggest running only 1 realtime security suite type program, e.g., antivirus/antispyware program, at any given time. What I personally do is to run my antivirus/antispyware program (Avast) in realtime. Then I scan w/Superantispyware or MalwareBytes weekly or so, just to get rid of tracking cookies other annoying nasties that may have popped up. BTW, 1 thing that can really help keep the bugs in check is to simply delete your temporary internet files often--lots lots of crap-ola gets in there. So what I personally would do would be to run Microsoft Security Essentials in realtime, let SAS be an on-demand scanner. I know some listers have run both w/o difficulty, but I can't help wondering what would happen if both try to quarantine the same threat--neither 1 might win your protection may well be compromised. I remember getting this as a first exercise of my malware removal training, this is pretty much how I answered it then, too, passed, so hopefully it'll suffice. I hope I've made myself sufficiently clear, invite further queries if I haven't. Blessings for a wonderful holiday season. On 12/27/10, Mike Barbara In Arcadiamb69ma...@charter.net wrote: Hi Jackie; I am going to take this topic back to one from earlier today. There was a discussion about whether or not to run Microsoft Security Essentials Super Anti Spyware in Real Time mode at the same time. In your professional opinion, if you were running both of these programs how would you run the 2? Meaning, would you run 1 in Real Time not the other or, run both in Real Time? Personally I am not a heavy user of the Internet except for emailing and would like to hear a professional opinion on what the pros cons might be. I am not trying to discredit any of the ideas/opinions of others that contributed to this topic earlier but, as a amateur computer user and having learned most of what I've learned via trial error, lists' like this, I would like to hear from someone who deals with this type of issue on a professional basis. All advice/information will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Jackie McBride To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] removing a virus Andre, if I were working in the environment your nephew is working in, I'd do it that way as well. But u I both know that most residential soho customers
Re: [Blind-Computing] realtime antivirus antispyware protection
Not only Matthew You give a wonderful series of explanations that I find very helpful Thanks for your knowledge Keep Smiling, Janie Degenshein Access Tech Consultant Facilitator of ECHO Co-host of OTBS On The Bright Side www.thruoureyes.org/brightside.html jdege...@comcast.net -Original Message- From: Jackie McBride Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 11:49 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] realtime antivirus antispyware protection Glad u found my explanations helpful, Matthew. On 12/28/10, matthew matthew.care...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for that helpful information Jackie. I planned on doing what you said when others mentioned something similar. Your detailed explanation helped a lot. On 12/27/2010 11:19 PM, Jackie McBride wrote: Mike, u wrote: Hi Jackie; I am going to take this topic back to one from earlier today. There was a discussion about whether or not to run Microsoft Security Essentials Super Anti Spyware in Real Time mode at the same time. In your professional opinion, if you were running both of these programs how would you run the 2? Meaning, would you run 1 in Real Time not the other or, run both in Real Time? Mike, much depends on what the 2 programs do. Let me give a bit of background, then perhaps, by way of that, address your question. In the not so very distant past, spyware viruses were pretty much distinct entities, the programs designed to protect the computer from each did quite different things. Antivirus programs tended to look for what's called file signatures, e.g., certain strings in files that were suggestive of a virus, while antispyware programs tended to monitor things like registry changes, where the browser was being taken to, etc. That's fairly oversimplified, but the crux was that 1 antivirus 1 antispyware program could generally run together in realtime w/o conflict. Malware has, unfortunately, become much more sophisticated. Viruses drop trojans which create a backdoor into your computer allow all kinds of information to be passed to some1, e.g., spyware. Thus, the distinction between viruses spyware-- other types of malware, for that matter--have blurred considerably over the past few years. The result is that antivirus programs have evolved to become antivirus/antispyware programs, trying to become, as it were, all protection for all malware, all things to all people, etc. The answer to your question is that it really depends on what the programs do. If the antivirus program confines itself to looking for file signatures, etc., while the antispyware program monitors registry changes browser redirects, then it's probably safe. If, on the other hand, the 2 programs monitor for similar things, then conflict can does result. The problem further arises when both try to quarantine something at the same time, obviously, it is for this reason that malware experts suggest running only 1 realtime security suite type program, e.g., antivirus/antispyware program, at any given time. What I personally do is to run my antivirus/antispyware program (Avast) in realtime. Then I scan w/Superantispyware or MalwareBytes weekly or so, just to get rid of tracking cookies other annoying nasties that may have popped up. BTW, 1 thing that can really help keep the bugs in check is to simply delete your temporary internet files often--lots lots of crap-ola gets in there. So what I personally would do would be to run Microsoft Security Essentials in realtime, let SAS be an on-demand scanner. I know some listers have run both w/o difficulty, but I can't help wondering what would happen if both try to quarantine the same threat--neither 1 might win your protection may well be compromised. I remember getting this as a first exercise of my malware removal training, this is pretty much how I answered it then, too, passed, so hopefully it'll suffice. I hope I've made myself sufficiently clear, invite further queries if I haven't. Blessings for a wonderful holiday season. On 12/27/10, Mike Barbara In Arcadiamb69ma...@charter.net wrote: Hi Jackie; I am going to take this topic back to one from earlier today. There was a discussion about whether or not to run Microsoft Security Essentials Super Anti Spyware in Real Time mode at the same time. In your professional opinion, if you were running both of these programs how would you run the 2? Meaning, would you run 1 in Real Time not the other or, run both in Real Time? Personally I am not a heavy user of the Internet except for emailing and would like to hear a professional opinion on what the pros cons might be. I am not trying to discredit any of the ideas/opinions of others that contributed to this topic earlier but, as a amateur computer user and having learned most of what I've learned via trial error, lists' like this, I would like to hear from someone who deals with this type of issue on a professional basis. All advice/information will be greatly
[Blind-Computing] microphone sounding awful
hello i tried today to adjust the microphone and no idea what went wrong but it sounds like i am underwater. can someone tell me how to set the microphone properly so as people can understand me?. On skype it is diabolical and i cant use it like that. i am using windows xp home, jaws 10 and a realtech 97 soundcard. the microphone is connected to the soundcard. as are the speakers. is there a reset button or someway to put the settings back to normal? thank you Yvonne - Original Message - From: Mike Barbara In Arcadia mb69ma...@charter.net To: Blind Computing blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 10:24 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link Hi Gerald Andre; Thank you for providing the info on the differences between Msse SAS. For others who haven't updated MSSE yet, below is the direct download for the 2.0.6570 update. http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/AntiSpyware/MSELinks.html Hope this helps. Take care. Mike For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] microphone sounding awful
Yvonne, u really need to have a headset to plug into your computer, because if u try to just use microphone speakers, you'll get terrible feedback. Truthfully, it's best to use a good quality USB headset w/skype, but, if u don't have that, you'll need to at least plug a headset into your computer so that u don't have a huge bunch of feedback. On 12/28/10, yvonne oliver yvonne.oli...@tafn.org.uk wrote: hello i tried today to adjust the microphone and no idea what went wrong but it sounds like i am underwater. can someone tell me how to set the microphone properly so as people can understand me?. On skype it is diabolical and i cant use it like that. i am using windows xp home, jaws 10 and a realtech 97 soundcard. the microphone is connected to the soundcard. as are the speakers. is there a reset button or someway to put the settings back to normal? thank you Yvonne - Original Message - From: Mike Barbara In Arcadia mb69ma...@charter.net To: Blind Computing blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 10:24 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link Hi Gerald Andre; Thank you for providing the info on the differences between Msse SAS. For others who haven't updated MSSE yet, below is the direct download for the 2.0.6570 update. http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/AntiSpyware/MSELinks.html Hope this helps. Take care. Mike For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com -- Change the world--1 deed at a time Jackie McBride Scripting Classes: http://jawsscripting.lonsdalemedia.org homePage: www.abletec.serverheaven.net For technophobes: www.technophoeb.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
[Blind-Computing] Online credit card payments
Aloha all, After 14 years of being in business, I am finding that I may need to start accepting credit cards. I'd like to know if anyone is using an online service that is accessible and doesn't cost a fortune to process. We accept PayPal, but our state has gone to a credit card payment system, and to bill with an invoice, get a purchase order and process the payment is taking forever. Thanks in advance for any help you can offer. Betsy For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link
Mike, how can I know whether or not the update to mse worked? marilyn - Original Message - From: Mike Barbara In Arcadia mb69ma...@charter.net To: Blind Computing blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 4:24 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link : Hi Gerald Andre; : : Thank you for providing the info on the differences between Msse SAS. For : others who haven't updated MSSE yet, below is the direct download for the : 2.0.6570 update. : : http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/AntiSpyware/MSELinks.html : : Hope this helps. Take care. : Mike : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link
If it downloads and installs it worked then grin. You will know trust me. At some point during set up it says update even. On 12/28/2010 5:15 PM, Marilyn Walker wrote: Mike, how can I know whether or not the update to mse worked? marilyn - Original Message - From: Mike Barbara In Arcadiamb69ma...@charter.net To: Blind Computingblind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 4:24 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link : Hi Gerald Andre; : : Thank you for providing the info on the differences between Msse SAS. For : others who haven't updated MSSE yet, below is the direct download for the : 2.0.6570 update. : : http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/AntiSpyware/MSELinks.html : : Hope this helps. Take care. : Mike : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link
To confirm installation of MSE2.0 launch MSE. Tab till you come across the Home button Left arrow to Additional help options and press enter. Up arrow once to About Security Essentials and press enter. Use jaws cursor to read the whole screen. There should be a reference to you running version 2.0. Remember, this information is from Andre. - Original Message - From: matthew matthew.care...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link If it downloads and installs it worked then grin. You will know trust me. At some point during set up it says update even. On 12/28/2010 5:15 PM, Marilyn Walker wrote: Mike, how can I know whether or not the update to mse worked? marilyn - Original Message - From: Mike Barbara In Arcadiamb69ma...@charter.net To: Blind Computingblind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 4:24 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link : Hi Gerald Andre; : : Thank you for providing the info on the differences between Msse SAS. For : others who haven't updated MSSE yet, below is the direct download for the : 2.0.6570 update. : : http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/AntiSpyware/MSELinks.html : : Hope this helps. Take care. : Mike : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link
Hi Marilyn; Do as Andre says except, after you tab to the home button, right arrow instead of left arrow to Additional Help Options, press enter, arrow down to About Security Essentials, press enter, press control + Home to take the cursor to the top of the page , arrow down 1 line at time, after arrowing down 1 time you should hear Jaws read 2.0.657.0 . Hope this helps. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Andre Williams To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link To confirm installation of MSE2.0 launch MSE. Tab till you come across the Home button Left arrow to Additional help options and press enter. Up arrow once to About Security Essentials and press enter. Use jaws cursor to read the whole screen. There should be a reference to you running version 2.0. Remember, this information is from Andre. - Original Message - From: matthew matthew.care...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link If it downloads and installs it worked then grin. You will know trust me. At some point during set up it says update even. On 12/28/2010 5:15 PM, Marilyn Walker wrote: Mike, how can I know whether or not the update to mse worked? marilyn - Original Message - From: Mike Barbara In Arcadiamb69ma...@charter.net To: Blind Computingblind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 4:24 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link : Hi Gerald Andre; : : Thank you for providing the info on the differences between Msse SAS. For : others who haven't updated MSSE yet, below is the direct download for the : 2.0.6570 update. : : http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/AntiSpyware/MSELinks.html : : Hope this helps. Take care. : Mike : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link
It kept saying update button over and over. Nothing about setup. Isn't there a key combination that reveals the version number? marilyn - Original Message - From: matthew matthew.care...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link : If it downloads and installs it worked then grin. You will know trust : me. At some point during set up it says update even. : : On 12/28/2010 5:15 PM, Marilyn Walker wrote: : Mike, how can I know whether or not the update to mse worked? marilyn : - Original Message - : From: Mike Barbara In Arcadiamb69ma...@charter.net : To: Blind Computingblind-computing@jaws-users.com : Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 4:24 PM : Subject: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link : : : : Hi Gerald Andre; : : : : Thank you for providing the info on the differences between Msse SAS. : For : : others who haven't updated MSSE yet, below is the direct download for the : : 2.0.6570 update. : : : : http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/AntiSpyware/MSELinks.html : : : : Hope this helps. Take care. : : Mike : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : Send any questions regarding list management to: : blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : Send any questions regarding list management to: : blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link
Mike. Why wouldn't pressing left arrow once work rather than pressing right arrow 5 times? I also see that you are correct in one not needing to use the jaws cursor to read the About dialogue, but either way its just as easy to read such details. Andre - Original Message - From: Mike Barbara in Arcadia mb69ma...@charter.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 5:19 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link Hi Marilyn; Do as Andre says except, after you tab to the home button, right arrow instead of left arrow to Additional Help Options, press enter, arrow down to About Security Essentials, press enter, press control + Home to take the cursor to the top of the page , arrow down 1 line at time, after arrowing down 1 time you should hear Jaws read 2.0.657.0 . Hope this helps. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Andre Williams To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link To confirm installation of MSE2.0 launch MSE. Tab till you come across the Home button Left arrow to Additional help options and press enter. Up arrow once to About Security Essentials and press enter. Use jaws cursor to read the whole screen. There should be a reference to you running version 2.0. Remember, this information is from Andre. - Original Message - From: matthew matthew.care...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link If it downloads and installs it worked then grin. You will know trust me. At some point during set up it says update even. On 12/28/2010 5:15 PM, Marilyn Walker wrote: Mike, how can I know whether or not the update to mse worked? marilyn - Original Message - From: Mike Barbara In Arcadiamb69ma...@charter.net To: Blind Computingblind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 4:24 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link : Hi Gerald Andre; : : Thank you for providing the info on the differences between Msse SAS. For : others who haven't updated MSSE yet, below is the direct download for the : 2.0.6570 update. : : http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/AntiSpyware/MSELinks.html : : Hope this helps. Take care. : Mike : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
[Blind-Computing] thanks, andre and mike
Hi, guys: thanks for the info; it worked. I did not know that entering the home button would take me to some options if I arrowed left or right. And I did not guess that the jaws cursor would be useful with this. I now have the m s e update going so all is well. Marilyn For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
[Blind-Computing] Modem and router Problems
Friends, Thank you all for the advice offered on this problem. I have not really had an opportunity to really get down and dig into the heart of the problem yet due to my sighted fiance's work schedule. If it does turn out to be a router issue I want to be able to go to Wal-Mart and get this issue corrected while dealing with the router. However, before my fiance went back to work today on her day off we did unplug all the wires on the modem and router including taking out the battery. My fiance said all the lights on the modem were lit up, but on the router all the lights except the power light was lit on the router. The power button was pushed in and out a couple of times on the router with no change to the power light. I have several emails with great advice and I have no doubt that the solution will be found in one of them. Thank you all again For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link
I know this is late but for future reference for all if your using jfw the key combo is jaws key or insert control v. Hope this helps for version information. On 12/28/2010 7:27 PM, Marilyn Walker wrote: It kept saying update button over and over. Nothing about setup. Isn't there a key combination that reveals the version number? marilyn - Original Message - From: matthewmatthew.care...@gmail.com To:blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link : If it downloads and installs it worked then grin. You will know trust : me. At some point during set up it says update even. : : On 12/28/2010 5:15 PM, Marilyn Walker wrote: : Mike, how can I know whether or not the update to mse worked? marilyn : - Original Message - : From: Mike Barbara In Arcadiamb69ma...@charter.net : To: Blind Computingblind-computing@jaws-users.com : Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 4:24 PM : Subject: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link : : : : Hi Gerald Andre; : : : : Thank you for providing the info on the differences between Msse SAS. : For : : others who haven't updated MSSE yet, below is the direct download for the : : 2.0.6570 update. : : : : http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/AntiSpyware/MSELinks.html : : : : Hope this helps. Take care. : : Mike : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : Send any questions regarding list management to: : blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : Send any questions regarding list management to: : blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link
Hi Andre; You are correct about the left arrowing. It seems like I had tried left arrowing more than once in the past with no success. I should have tried your suggestion before responding. I'm sorry for attempting to make a correction when a correction wasn't necessary. Please accept my apologies. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Andre Williams To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 5:24 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link Mike. Why wouldn't pressing left arrow once work rather than pressing right arrow 5 times? I also see that you are correct in one not needing to use the jaws cursor to read the About dialogue, but either way its just as easy to read such details. Andre - Original Message - From: Mike Barbara in Arcadia mb69ma...@charter.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 5:19 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link Hi Marilyn; Do as Andre says except, after you tab to the home button, right arrow instead of left arrow to Additional Help Options, press enter, arrow down to About Security Essentials, press enter, press control + Home to take the cursor to the top of the page , arrow down 1 line at time, after arrowing down 1 time you should hear Jaws read 2.0.657.0 . Hope this helps. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Andre Williams To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link To confirm installation of MSE2.0 launch MSE. Tab till you come across the Home button Left arrow to Additional help options and press enter. Up arrow once to About Security Essentials and press enter. Use jaws cursor to read the whole screen. There should be a reference to you running version 2.0. Remember, this information is from Andre. - Original Message - From: matthew matthew.care...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link If it downloads and installs it worked then grin. You will know trust me. At some point during set up it says update even. On 12/28/2010 5:15 PM, Marilyn Walker wrote: Mike, how can I know whether or not the update to mse worked? marilyn - Original Message - From: Mike Barbara In Arcadiamb69ma...@charter.net To: Blind Computingblind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 4:24 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link : Hi Gerald Andre; : : Thank you for providing the info on the differences between Msse SAS. For : others who haven't updated MSSE yet, below is the direct download for the : 2.0.6570 update. : : http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/AntiSpyware/MSELinks.html : : Hope this helps. Take care. : Mike : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link
Thanks, Matthew. marilyn - Original Message - From: matthew matthew.care...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 8:43 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link : : I know this is late but for future reference for all if your using jfw : the key combo is jaws key or insert control v. Hope this helps for : version information. : : On 12/28/2010 7:27 PM, Marilyn Walker wrote: : It kept saying update button over and over. Nothing about setup. Isn't : there a key combination that reveals the version number? marilyn : - Original Message - : From: matthewmatthew.care...@gmail.com : To:blind-computing@jaws-users.com : Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 6:26 PM : Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link : : : : If it downloads and installs it worked then grin. You will know trust : : me. At some point during set up it says update even. : : : : On 12/28/2010 5:15 PM, Marilyn Walker wrote: : : Mike, how can I know whether or not the update to mse worked? marilyn : : - Original Message - : : From: Mike Barbara In Arcadiamb69ma...@charter.net : : To: Blind Computingblind-computing@jaws-users.com : : Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 4:24 PM : : Subject: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link : : : : : : : Hi Gerald Andre; : : : : : : Thank you for providing the info on the differences between Msse : SAS. : : For : : : others who haven't updated MSSE yet, below is the direct download for : the : : : 2.0.6570 update. : : : : : : http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/AntiSpyware/MSELinks.html : : : : : : Hope this helps. Take care. : : : Mike : : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : : : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : : : : : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : : Send any questions regarding list management to: : : blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com : : : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : : Send any questions regarding list management to: : : blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com : : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : Send any questions regarding list management to: : blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : Send any questions regarding list management to: : blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link
press CTRL insert V once you are in MSE. That should tell you the version. -Original Message- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Andre Williams Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 5:24 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link Mike. Why wouldn't pressing left arrow once work rather than pressing right arrow 5 times? I also see that you are correct in one not needing to use the jaws cursor to read the About dialogue, but either way its just as easy to read such details. Andre - Original Message - From: Mike Barbara in Arcadia mb69ma...@charter.net To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 5:19 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link Hi Marilyn; Do as Andre says except, after you tab to the home button, right arrow instead of left arrow to Additional Help Options, press enter, arrow down to About Security Essentials, press enter, press control + Home to take the cursor to the top of the page , arrow down 1 line at time, after arrowing down 1 time you should hear Jaws read 2.0.657.0 . Hope this helps. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Andre Williams To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link To confirm installation of MSE2.0 launch MSE. Tab till you come across the Home button Left arrow to Additional help options and press enter. Up arrow once to About Security Essentials and press enter. Use jaws cursor to read the whole screen. There should be a reference to you running version 2.0. Remember, this information is from Andre. - Original Message - From: matthew matthew.care...@gmail.com To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link If it downloads and installs it worked then grin. You will know trust me. At some point during set up it says update even. On 12/28/2010 5:15 PM, Marilyn Walker wrote: Mike, how can I know whether or not the update to mse worked? marilyn - Original Message - From: Mike Barbara In Arcadiamb69ma...@charter.net To: Blind Computingblind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 4:24 PM Subject: [Blind-Computing] MSSE update download link : Hi Gerald Andre; : : Thank you for providing the info on the differences between Msse SAS. For : others who haven't updated MSSE yet, below is the direct download for the : 2.0.6570 update. : : http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/AntiSpyware/MSELinks.html : : Hope this helps. Take care. : Mike : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com
