Re: [BlindHandyMan] Putting in a basement floor

[Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press]

It's the wood of choice here in the islands, and 
we definitely give it the moisture test.
At 03:22 PM 5/25/2010, you wrote:
>
>
>Baked lumber is what is replacing pressure 
>treated and other. It is baked in large ovens 
>and it destroys the sugar in the lumber and sap. 
>Nothing will eat it because there is nothing in 
>it for them, and it will not rot. It can however 
>absorb tons of water and dry out time after time without warping.
>...bob
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[BlindHandyMan] baked lumber

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Putting in a basement floor

[Ron Yearns]

I do  not think  kiln dried lumber is resistant to moisture or rot. thats why 
they started making treated lumber cc a , c b a and the like.
Ron
  - Original Message - 
  From: Spiro 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 4:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Putting in a basement floor



  I think it used to be called KD for kilm dried.

  On Tue, 25 May 2010, Ron Yearns wrote:

  > OK I'm biting . White is bakeed lumber?
  > Ron
  > - Original Message -
  > From: chiliblindman
  > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  > Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 9:27 PM
  > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Putting in a basement floor
  >
  >
  >
  > You might consider the newer baked lumber. It will take moisture extremes 
and not rot or expand and shrink.
  > .bob
  >
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Putting in a basement floor

[chiliblindman]

Baked lumber is what is replacing pressure treated and other.  It is baked in 
large ovens and it destroys the sugar in the lumber and sap.  Nothing will eat 
it because there is nothing in it for them, and it will not rot.  It can 
however absorb tons of water and dry out time after time without warping.
...bob

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Putting in a basement floor

[chiliblindman]

 Baked lumber is not to be confused with dried lumber.  Both do get dried, 
but the sugar content remains in the dried lumber.
 Pressure treated lumber is ok for 20 years where baked lumber will never 
warp and is good for 30 to 40 years plus.
...bob

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[BlindHandyMan] floors by 1 800 carpet?

[aadorno]

hi list I heard that 1 800 carpet does wood floors.
has any one on here used them before for wood floors.
would like opinions.
thanks so much.

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Shut off valve

[Bob Kennedy]

Home Depot sells the Shark Bights.  I have not had a problem with them yet.  I 
just replaced the shower mixer and faucet Saturday.  The closest shut off was 
under the house, and the shower was on the 2nd floor.  

As I was rushed for time, I didn't want to solder 2 new shut offs in a very 
confined area.  I went to Lowes since it is closer to the house.  This store 
didn't stock their brand, Gator Bights, with a shut off.  

I picked up 2 Shark Bights for half inch copper and had them in place in less 
than 5 minutes.  The best test I know is to turn the water on and watch for 
leaks.  Not a one...  So I continue to give them my best rating for what it's 
worth.

I can't talk about Pecs since I haven't done any yet.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan & Terrie Robbins 
  To: Blindhandyman 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 10:09 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Shut off valve



  Just called my local hardware store as I need to pick up a
  shut off valve to go in half inch copper line. I believe
  what I want is referred to as a gate valve (inside totally
  retracts to give full unrestricted flow) correct? I asked if
  they had these so I could use the shark bite fittings. They
  said they had Pex and it was the same. Since I've read about
  both but never used either are these the same or
  interchangeable? Is there a special tool I'll need to have
  on hand to remove should I want to? Last question: Do you
  feel the shark bite or Pex are as reliable as compression
  fittings?

  thanks
  Al



  

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Putting in a basement floor

[Don H]

If you use the wood for a basement floor make sure to put a heavy vapor
barrier under it and run it up the walls past the edges of the wood.  Also
if I remember correctly there are two types of treated lumber.  Only one of
them is meant to be placed directly on the ground or buried such as for
fence posts.

 

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From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Spiro
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 4:16 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Putting in a basement floor

 

  

I think it used to be called KD for kilm dried.

On Tue, 25 May 2010, Ron Yearns wrote:

> OK I'm biting . White is bakeed lumber?
> Ron
> - Original Message -
> From: chiliblindman
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 

> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 9:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Putting in a basement floor
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> You might consider the newer baked lumber. It will take moisture extremes
and not rot or expand and shrink.
> .bob
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Putting in a basement floor

[Rick Hume]

When reference is made to "baked lumber", I am curious if reference is actually 
being made to "heat modified lumber"?  I thought I just read in an article, 
that there is still question as to whether heat modified lumber will hold up to 
moisture, particularly when used in contact with the ground.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Spiro 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 5:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Putting in a basement floor



  I think it used to be called KD for kilm dried.

  On Tue, 25 May 2010, Ron Yearns wrote:

  > OK I'm biting . White is bakeed lumber?
  > Ron
  > - Original Message -
  > From: chiliblindman
  > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  > Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 9:27 PM
  > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Putting in a basement floor
  >
  >
  >
  > You might consider the newer baked lumber. It will take moisture extremes 
and not rot or expand and shrink.
  > .bob
  >
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Putting in a basement floor

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Putting in a basement floor

[Spiro]

I think it used to be called KD for kilm dried.




On Tue, 25 May 2010, Ron Yearns wrote:

> OK I'm biting .  White is bakeed lumber?
> Ron
>  - Original Message -
>  From: chiliblindman
>  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 9:27 PM
>  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Putting in a basement floor
>
>
>
>  You might consider the newer baked lumber. It will take moisture extremes 
> and not rot or expand and shrink.
>  .bob
>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Shut off valve

[Spiro]

I'm not a contractor; so I've not done hundreds of them.
But i haven't seen seems where it looked like it would blow apart under 
consumer pressure.
I'd go with them, unless *maybe* the set up is outside and going to take 
abuse that the copper or galvanized could take as necessity.





On Tue, 25 May 2010, Alan & Terrie Robbins wrote:

> Just called my local hardware store as I need to pick up a
> shut off valve to go in half inch copper line. I believe
> what I want is referred to as a gate valve (inside totally
> retracts to give full unrestricted flow) correct? I asked if
> they had these so I could use the shark bite fittings. They
> said they had Pex and it was the same. Since I've read about
> both but never used either are these the same or
> interchangeable? Is there a special tool I'll need to have
> on hand to remove should I want to? Last question: Do you
> feel the shark bite or Pex are as reliable as compression
> fittings?
>
> thanks
> Al
>
>

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Shut off valve

[Alan & Terrie Robbins]

Dan, Mike, & Dale,

Thanks, it's off to the hardware store later I go to get a ball valve.
Thanks for all the ideas & discussion.


Al
  -Original Message-
  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Dan Rossi
  Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 11:45 AM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Shut off valve



  Al,

  I think there are others better qualified to answer your question here,
  but if you are cutting a Copper line, and want to install a shut-off
  valve, I think your options are a regular valve that has to be sweated on,
  a compression fitting, or a shark bite. I don't think that PEX comes into
  play at all here, other than the fact that I think shark bites can do both
  PEX and Copper.

  When you go to the hardware store, just explain it like you did here. You
  are cutting a Copper line, and just installing a shut-off inline.

  I agree with Dale that you want a ball valve. I had most of the valves in
  my basement replaced with ball valves, including one just above the main
  shut-off. I haven't noticed any reduction in flow.

  --
  Blue skies.
  Dan Rossi
  Carnegie Mellon University.
  E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
  Tel: (412) 268-9081


  


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Putting in a basement floor

[Ron Yearns]

OK I'm biting .  White is bakeed lumber?
Ron
  - Original Message - 
  From: chiliblindman 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 9:27 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Putting in a basement floor



  You might consider the newer baked lumber. It will take moisture extremes and 
not rot or expand and shrink.
  .bob

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Shut off valve

[Dan Rossi]

Al,

I think there are others better qualified to answer your question here, 
but if you are cutting a Copper line, and want to install a shut-off 
valve, I think your options are a regular valve that has to be sweated on, 
a compression fitting, or a shark bite.  I don't think that PEX comes into 
play at all here, other than the fact that I think shark bites can do both 
PEX and Copper.

When you go to the hardware store, just explain it like you did here.  You 
are cutting a Copper line, and just installing a shut-off inline.

I agree with Dale that you want a ball valve.  I had most of the valves in 
my basement replaced with ball valves, including one just above the main 
shut-off.  I haven't noticed any reduction in flow.


-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel:(412) 268-9081

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Shut off valve

[Michael baldwin]

I would cut a section of the copper pipe out, where you want the valve, and
get a ball valve with compression fittings.
Shark bite can supposedly work with about any kind of pipe, but if you have
had luck with compression, why spend the extra money.
Ball valves have little to no restrictions when they are open, and it only
takes a quarter turn to have it fully open or fully closed, and they do not
seem to leak around the stem like gate valves do.
 
I am actually going to be doing this soon, but I have 3/4 galvanized.
 
Michael
 
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From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Alan & Terrie Robbins
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 10:03 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Shut off valve


  

Dale & Dan,

Thanks to both of you for getting back to me before Terrie gets home and I
go to that damn hardware store. Let me explain what I'm doing and maybe that
will help me better understand the suggestions you guys are making. When I
go away from home I have this thing I am concerned over and that is a water
leak while I'm gone for a week or so. I usually shut off the main water
valve just below the water meter when we go away. The problem with this is
it is near the floor down behind the washer and it is quite a trick to lay
on the washer and reach that sucker. The main line runs right up behind the
washer and what I figured I'd do is simply cut the line and put an
additional shut off valve in the main line where it is nice & easy to reach.
However, I want one that opens fully like the one before the water meter so
as to not constrict the flow volume in the main line. I usually use
compression fittings when working with copper line and have never had a
problem. However with the newer stuff like shark bite fittings I thought
they may be better. I've never played with Pex or even seen it (unless that
is what the foot long or so things are going from my hot water heater and
connect to the copper pipe) so I don't want to get into something
complicated, I just want to insert a valve and then get onto more projects.
So, with this, what is the suggestion?

thanks
Al
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From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 

[mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
 ]On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 10:44 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com  
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Shut off valve

Al,

I think you may want a ball valve. They tend to be a lot more reliable
than gate valves.

PEX is not the same thing, it is a plastic material. There are methods of
joining it to copper but I am unfamiliar with any of them except by sweating
threaded fittings onto the ends of the pipes to be linked with plastic types
of fitting. I seem to remember that there is a sort of bulbous fitting which
can be put onto the end of a copper pipe and the PEX heated and forced over
the bulb where it cools and contracts and is further secured with a band.
There may also be compression plastic fittings to clamp down over the ends
of the copper certainly there are such fittings for drain lines but I don't
know about pressured water lines.

- Original Message -
From: Alan & Terrie Robbins
To: Blindhandyman
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 10:09 AM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Shut off valve

Just called my local hardware store as I need to pick up a
shut off valve to go in half inch copper line. I believe
what I want is referred to as a gate valve (inside totally
retracts to give full unrestricted flow) correct? I asked if
they had these so I could use the shark bite fittings. They
said they had Pex and it was the same. Since I've read about
both but never used either are these the same or
interchangeable? Is there a special tool I'll need to have
on hand to remove should I want to? Last question: Do you
feel the shark bite or Pex are as reliable as compression
fittings?

thanks
Al

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] sorry if this is off topic. it's regarding my computer

[Julio and Los pintores De La Cumbia]

sorry thanks anyways.
sent from My t-mobile dash 3g.
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Nickname Soda-pop
Email Address jmoro...@ca.rr.com
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Shut off valve

[Alan & Terrie Robbins]

Dale & Dan,

Thanks to both of you for getting back to me before Terrie gets home and I
go to that damn hardware store. Let me explain what I'm doing and maybe that
will help me better understand the suggestions you guys are making. When I
go away from home I have this thing I am concerned over and that is a water
leak while I'm gone for a week or so. I usually  shut off the main water
valve just below the water meter when we go away. The problem with this is
it is near the floor down behind the washer and it is quite a trick to lay
on the washer and reach that sucker. The main line runs right up behind the
washer and what I figured I'd do is simply cut the line and put an
additional shut off valve in the main line where it is nice & easy to reach.
However, I want one that opens fully like the one before the water meter so
as to not constrict the flow volume in the main line. I usually use
compression fittings when working with copper line and have never had a
problem. However with the newer stuff like shark bite fittings I thought
they may be better. I've never played with Pex or even seen it (unless that
is what the foot long or so things are going from my hot water heater and
connect to the copper pipe) so I don't want to get into something
complicated, I just want to insert a valve and then get onto more projects.
So, with this, what is the suggestion?

thanks
Al
  -Original Message-
  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Dale Leavens
  Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 10:44 AM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Shut off valve



  Al,

  I think you may want a ball valve. They tend to be a lot more reliable
than gate valves.

  PEX is not the same thing, it is a plastic material. There are methods of
joining it to copper but I am unfamiliar with any of them except by sweating
threaded fittings onto the ends of the pipes to be linked with plastic types
of fitting. I seem to remember that there is a sort of bulbous fitting which
can be put onto the end of a copper pipe and the PEX heated and forced over
the bulb where it cools and contracts and is further secured with a band.
There may also be compression plastic fittings to clamp down over the ends
of the copper certainly there are such fittings for drain lines but I don't
know about pressured water lines.

  - Original Message -
  From: Alan & Terrie Robbins
  To: Blindhandyman
  Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 10:09 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Shut off valve

  Just called my local hardware store as I need to pick up a
  shut off valve to go in half inch copper line. I believe
  what I want is referred to as a gate valve (inside totally
  retracts to give full unrestricted flow) correct? I asked if
  they had these so I could use the shark bite fittings. They
  said they had Pex and it was the same. Since I've read about
  both but never used either are these the same or
  interchangeable? Is there a special tool I'll need to have
  on hand to remove should I want to? Last question: Do you
  feel the shark bite or Pex are as reliable as compression
  fittings?

  thanks
  Al

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] sorry if this is off topic. it's regarding my computer

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Subject: [BlindHandyMan] sorry if this is off topic. it's regarding my 
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hello I am trying to sove a caption with fire fox and it's not working I am 
logged in on fire fox and I have the webvisum add on can someone please 
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Email Address jmoro...@ca.rr.com
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Windows Live Messenger only jmorone...@hotmail.com
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[BlindHandyMan] sorry if this is off topic. it's regarding my computer

[Julio and Los pintores De La Cumbia]

hello I am trying to sove a caption with fire fox and it's not working I am 
logged in on fire fox and I have the webvisum add on can someone please help?
sent from My t-mobile dash 3g.
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Nickname Soda-pop
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Shut off valve

[Dale Leavens]

Al,

I think you may want a ball valve. They tend to be a lot more reliable than 
gate valves.

PEX is not the same thing, it is a plastic material. There are methods of 
joining it to copper but I am unfamiliar with any of them except by sweating 
threaded fittings onto the ends of the pipes to be linked with plastic types of 
fitting. I seem to remember that there is a sort of bulbous fitting which can 
be put onto the end of a copper pipe and the PEX heated and forced over the 
bulb where it cools and contracts and is further secured with a band. There may 
also be compression plastic fittings to clamp down over the ends of the copper 
certainly there are such fittings for drain lines but I don't know about 
pressured water lines.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan & Terrie Robbins 
  To: Blindhandyman 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 10:09 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Shut off valve



  Just called my local hardware store as I need to pick up a
  shut off valve to go in half inch copper line. I believe
  what I want is referred to as a gate valve (inside totally
  retracts to give full unrestricted flow) correct? I asked if
  they had these so I could use the shark bite fittings. They
  said they had Pex and it was the same. Since I've read about
  both but never used either are these the same or
  interchangeable? Is there a special tool I'll need to have
  on hand to remove should I want to? Last question: Do you
  feel the shark bite or Pex are as reliable as compression
  fittings?

  thanks
  Al



  

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Shut off valve

[Dan Rossi]

Al,

Maybe I don't understand you, or maybe I don't understand Shark bite or 
pex.

If you have Copper line, and you are installing a valve, or replacing an 
existing valve, you need a shark bite valve.  If you have pex, or are 
running new lines, then you can use either a shark bite, or pex valve on a 
pex line.  I believe that there are specific valves for pex, but I am 
pretty sure that shark bite valves will work on either Copper or pex.

Hope I haven't confused things.

-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel:(412) 268-9081

[BlindHandyMan] Shut off valve

[Alan & Terrie Robbins]

Just called my local hardware store as I need to pick up a
shut off valve to go in half inch copper line. I believe
what I want is referred to as a gate valve (inside totally
retracts to give full unrestricted flow) correct? I asked if
they had these so I could use the shark bite fittings. They
said they had Pex and it was the same. Since I've read about
both but never used either are these the same or
interchangeable? Is there a special tool I'll need to have
on hand to remove should I want to? Last question: Do you
feel the shark bite or Pex are as reliable as compression
fittings?

thanks
Al