Claudia Black Ben Browder in Stargate: SG-1

2005-01-03 Thread Gary Nunn


From Sci-Fi Weekly


Black And Browder Reunite In SG-1 


Robert C. Cooper, executive producer of SCI FI Channel's original series
Stargate SG-1 http://www.scifi.com/stargate/ , told SCI FI Wire that
Farscape star Claudia Black will reunite with her co-star Ben Browder in
several episodes of SG-1's upcoming ninth season. Black will play Vala, a
human character who will be introduced in the 12th episode of season eight,
Prometheus Unbound, which airs early next year when SG-1 resumes original
episodes. 

It will air in January [28], Cooper said in an interview. It'll be the
second episode back in our run on SCI FI. And we thought she was absolutely
wonderful. The character really worked out. She had wonderful chemistry with
Michael Shanks. She plays opposite [Shanks'] Daniel Jackson in the episode.


Black will return to SG-1 in five season nine episodes, which begin shooting
in March. We are having to ... deal with a brief absence of Carter, [played
by] Amanda Tapping, who's pregnant, Cooper said. And we had already
discussed a storyline that involved the return of Vala, ... the character
played by Claudia. And so we thought it worked perfectly to have that sort
of miniarc play out maybe while Amanda was less available to us. 

Cooper added that Black will play several scenes with Browder. She's [a]
human from another planet, he said. And she's a bit of ... an enigma.
You're not quite sure what her true story is in the episode 'Prometheus
Unbound.' She's a bit of a rogue who tells a long story about her planet and
her people and her past, and then in the end you're not really quite sure
whether it's true or not. So she's a bit of a wild card. She's a very ...
sexy character, who isn't afraid to take whatever ... she wants in any given
situation. And we had a lot of fun writing the role, and I know she had a
lot of fun playing it, and we're going to try very hard to maintain the
integrity of that character and still have her sort of join up with the
team, but still sort of keep the essence of that wonderful friction that
went on between her and Daniel, and I'm sure it'll continue to sort of play
out with the rest of the characters as well. 

From 1999 to 2003, the Australian-born Black played Officer Aeryn Sun in
Farscape against Browder's John Crichton. The two reprised their roles in
this year's SCI FI miniseries Farscape: The Peacekeeper Wars. The remaining
new episodes of Stargate SG-1's eighth season kick off Jan. 21, 2005, in a
new Friday 8 p.m. ET/PT timeslot, followed by the new episodes of Stargate
Atlantis http://www.scifi.com/atlantis/  at 9 p.m. and the new original
series Battlestar Galactica http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/  at 10 p.m.
The ninth season of SG-1 will begin airing in the summer. 


http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue402/news.html



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Re: Stargate SG-1

2004-03-17 Thread Dan Minette

- Original Message - 
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: Stargate SG-1


 
 Trying to think of something that TA would hurt, and I'm drawing a
 blank right now.
 

A Sunday School Christmas pageant? 

Dan M. 
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TA and Sci-Fi was Re: Stargate SG-1

2004-03-17 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], G. D. Akin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jan Coffey
 
  Can explain why. TA has allways been a big part of Sci-Fi and 
Sci-Fi
  fandom.
 
  So much so, that furrism is a direct offshoot of sci-fi fandom.
 
  There was a lot more skin back in the STOS days. Kirk was getting
  some way more often that Archer. Even Picard and Rieker were 
getting
  it more than Archer.
 
  If anything, I would think that SG1 has way too little TA to
  be serious Sci-Fi
 
 -
 
 To answer your first question:  Nerds like SF; nerds understand the 
science;
 nerds are socially inept; vicarious TA is the only TA nerds 
get . . .
 until the movie, that is.
 
 Another line of thought:  remember the final scene in Alien?  When 
Ripley
 (Singourney Weaver) did the little strip tease before discovering 
she had
 more company than Jonesy?  That is one of the best TA in SF ever, 
IMO.

 I ment to say explain why TA would make something ~not~ serious 
SciFi.

And as a nurd I would like to disagree with the socially inept bit. 
Yes we socialize differently, but that doesn't mean we are not 
getting any!!! In my experience 8) nurds get it a lot more often.  
Becouse we socialize differently, it seems that we don't have a lot 
of the sex hang-ups the general population has. No matter how private 
we keep that lack of hangups. But it's not just that, there is also 
the way we learn to socialize, like one would learn to play a piano. 
Having to learn to socialize as a skill means we understand the 
socialization we are capable of more thuroughly. And when we start to 
break down a system logicaly we can get good at it.  Apply this skill 
to a party setting and voila.


Processed food product maru

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Re: Stargate SG-1

2004-03-17 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 08:21 AM 3/17/2004 -0600 Dan Minette wrote:
 Trying to think of something that TA would hurt, and I'm drawing a
 blank right now.
 

A Sunday School Christmas pageant? 

Sesame Street?

Harry Potter?

The Great Escape?

Driving Miss Daisy?

JDG
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Re: TA and Sci-Fi was Re: Stargate SG-1

2004-03-17 Thread Julia Thompson
Jan Coffey wrote:

 And as a nurd I would like to disagree with the socially inept bit.
 Yes we socialize differently, but that doesn't mean we are not
 getting any!!! In my experience 8) nurds get it a lot more often.
 Becouse we socialize differently, it seems that we don't have a lot
 of the sex hang-ups the general population has. No matter how private
 we keep that lack of hangups. But it's not just that, there is also
 the way we learn to socialize, like one would learn to play a piano.
 Having to learn to socialize as a skill means we understand the
 socialization we are capable of more thuroughly. And when we start to
 break down a system logicaly we can get good at it.  Apply this skill
 to a party setting and voila.

Hm.  Wasn't Burning Man ultimately started by a nerd?  (Can't remember
just who or what he was, but it started on a beach in San Francisco,
IIRC.)

And isn't that now considered to be, among other things, a really wild
sex event?

I can see some merit to your point.

Julia
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RE: Stargate SG-1

2004-03-16 Thread Gary Nunn

 and yes more TA in Stargate would be nice, perhaps good old
 RDA hooking up with some sweet alien loving like kirk... I 
 mean was their a alien Kirk didnt do?
 -Nick Lidster



If memory serves, the producers DID throw some TA into SG-1 a few years
ago when the introduced Vanessa Angel as the busty cleavage popping
scantily clad Goa'uld. According to interviews, this was one of the main
reasons that Michael Shanks left for one season.

They do occasionally throw in more TA, on one episode where O'Neil was
trapped on another world for 3 months he lived with a woman and got her
pregnant. In several other episodes, they dressed up Amanda Tapping in
skirts and heels, but I must admit that she has that combat boot, gun
carrying image that makes it difficult to picture her in high heels and
silky dresses. Don't get me wrong, I think that Amanda Tapping's
character is awesome.. I mean, she has that sexy blonde, brainy, big gun
user thing going on :-)  

Personally, I think that the mix they currently have of the implied
sexual tension between O'Neil and Carter and the occasional thrown in
busty Goa'uld works well. Kind of like the Mulder-Scully sexual tension.
In some shows, the romantic angst thing works well and adds to the story
line, but I think that would only distract from Stargate.

By the way, I just ran across a FAQ on the Stargate website covering one
of my few gripes about the show:

6. Why does every culture SG-1 encounters speak English? 
Practical reasons that come with television production. The time
constraints of an hour-long episode mean that it would become a major
hindrance to the story each week if SG-1 had to spend the first 10
minutes of each episode learning to communicate with a new species.
http://www.stargatesg1.com/home/faq/index.html


One other minor nit I have with the show is the iris. Inbound teams
certainly have a great deal of faith that someone at the base didn't
fall asleep at the switch. I mean, if I were going through that gate and
knew that there was a barrier that could make me into jelly, I would be
asking for confirmation that the thing was open instead of just assuming
and stepping through. But that's just me.

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Re: Enterprise - was: Stargate SG-1

2004-03-16 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 09:07 PM 3/15/2004, you wrote:


On Mar 15, 2004, at 4:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[snip]

BTW anyone see the Enterprise Season Final? Enterprise is getting its ass
kicked... Very cool.
My local station decided to pull it for the current season, the bastards!

Is Enterprise being carried on UPN?


Yes UPN. They moved the time, or they are planning on moving the time. The 
episode two weeks ago, I didn't think it was the season final, (last week 
was a rerun here.)

Just checked episode guide

http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/ENT/episodes/index.html?season=3

there are five more episodes this season, they start showing new ones April 21.

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Re: Stargate SG-1

2004-03-16 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 08:01:21AM -0500, Gary Nunn wrote:

 One other minor nit I have with the show is the iris. Inbound teams
 certainly have a great deal of faith that someone at the base didn't
 fall asleep at the switch. I mean, if I were going through that gate
 and knew that there was a barrier that could make me into jelly, I
 would be asking for confirmation that the thing was open instead of
 just assuming and stepping through. But that's just me.

I would send a small transmitter through first, and once it arrives
safely, I would step in. Since this is so easy and logical, I tend to
assume they do it or something like it but just don't waste time showing
the viewers...


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Re: Stargate SG-1

2004-03-16 Thread Nick Lidster

- Original Message - 
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: Stargate SG-1


 On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 08:01:21AM -0500, Gary Nunn wrote:

  One other minor nit I have with the show is the iris. Inbound teams
  certainly have a great deal of faith that someone at the base didn't
  fall asleep at the switch. I mean, if I were going through that gate
  and knew that there was a barrier that could make me into jelly, I
  would be asking for confirmation that the thing was open instead of
  just assuming and stepping through. But that's just me.

 I would send a small transmitter through first, and once it arrives
 safely, I would step in. Since this is so easy and logical, I tend to
 assume they do it or something like it but just don't waste time showing
 the viewers...


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well the gate alows radio waves to travel 2 ways wether it is an incoming or
outgoing worm hole, hence the reason why the sgc can view the imags sent
back from the probe. The GDO (Garage Door Opener) That the SG teams use to
signal their activation and impending entrence into the wormhole actually
opens the Iris does it not? well we are lead to beleive that it would have
this capibility based on the tech explination Signals the Stargate to open
the iris .

to me a more plauseable explination would be that it signals back a green or
red for go or no go.


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Re: Stargate SG-1

2004-03-16 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 02:39:37PM -0330, Nick Lidster wrote:

 to me a more plauseable explination would be that it signals back a
 green or red for go or no go.

No, that only works going back to the iris stargate. They go through a
lot of stargates other than the home one, and they don't always have
time to send a UAV or whatever.


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Re: Stargate SG-1

2004-03-16 Thread Travis Edmunds

From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Stargate SG-1
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 13:39:55 -0500
On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 02:39:37PM -0330, Nick Lidster wrote:

 to me a more plauseable explination would be that it signals back a
 green or red for go or no go.
No, that only works going back to the iris stargate. They go through a
lot of stargates other than the home one, and they don't always have
time to send a UAV or whatever.

I honestly cannot remember one instance in which they never sent a MALP 
ahead of them. Is that what you're talking about?

-Travis friendly question Edmunds

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Re: Stargate SG-1

2004-03-16 Thread Nick Lidster
- Original Message - 
From: Travis Edmunds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: Stargate SG-1



 From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Stargate SG-1
 Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 13:39:55 -0500
 
 On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 02:39:37PM -0330, Nick Lidster wrote:
 
   to me a more plauseable explination would be that it signals back a
   green or red for go or no go.
 
 No, that only works going back to the iris stargate. They go through a
 lot of stargates other than the home one, and they don't always have
 time to send a UAV or whatever.
 
 

 I honestly cannot remember one instance in which they never sent a MALP
 ahead of them. Is that what you're talking about?

 -Travis friendly question Edmunds

I can remember a couple instances, however tehy were gates that they were to
less then a week prior or another SG team had left that planet in less then
a few days or are already there, However i cannot remember one time that
they have left EARTH without one of those criteria met.


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RE: Stargate SG-1

2004-03-16 Thread Miller, Jeffrey


 6. Why does every culture SG-1 encounters speak English? 

Yeah, I chuckle about it, too, but let it slide.  I like how Farscape handled it, but 
there just some practical limitations to the format. *shrug*

 One other minor nit I have with the show is the iris. Inbound teams
 certainly have a great deal of faith that someone at the base didn't
 fall asleep at the switch. I mean, if I were going through 
 that gate and
 knew that there was a barrier that could make me into jelly, 
 I would be
 asking for confirmation that the thing was open instead of 
 just assuming and stepping through. But that's just me.

My personal assumption was the the GDO had some sort of signal confirmed indicator.

-k-
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Re: Stargate SG-1

2004-03-16 Thread G. D. Akin
Gary Nunn wrote:


 As much as I hate to interrupt all of the love that is flowing back and
 forth on this list, I was wondering if anyone has been following
 Stargate?

 You gotta love the conversation they had about the Simpson's.  :-)

 I am not quite sure where they are going with this story line. I do see
 that they are setting up the new Stargate:Atlantis series that starts in
 July. I also see from the IMDB that the new Director of the SGC (Dr.
 Elizabeth Weir) is one of the main characters of SG:Atlantis. I wonder
 if that means that she will return SGC to the control of Hammond? I also
 see that Stargate SG-1 is returning for an eighth season in the Friday
 9:00 pm timeslot with the SG:Atlantis in the 10:00 pm slot.

 Just some rambling.

---

Guess what?  About 6 weeks ago, we started getting SG-1 season 6 on
AFN-Korea.  They began in the third week to show episodes out of order.
Fortunately the Exchange got Season 6 in so I don't have to rely on AFN to
get it right.

This is my favorite show on television.  I hope they keep it up for a while
longer.

George A



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Re: Stargate SG-1

2004-03-16 Thread G. D. Akin
Gary Nunn wrote:

snip
 I also fear that the original series will go downhill, especially with
 Richard Dean Anderson's role being greatly diminished. I read an article
 a few months ago that said Richard Dean Anderson would still be on the
 series, but in a greatly diminished role so that he could spend more
 time with his family. The same article said that Stargate: Atlantis was
 geared more toward the younger audience than SG-1 currently has and is
 using younger actors and more action oriented storylines, not to mention
 the TA factor to a greater degree than SG-1 did. Unfortunately, I can't
 find that article again, but here is an excerpt from the Sci-Fi channel
 website and a couple of links:

---

I had heard about Atlantis being geared to a younger audience.  I supposed
that means dumbed down science and more explosions and faster MALFs (is it
MALF??).  Of course TA hardly ever HURTS anything . . .

George A



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Re: TA and Sci-Fi was Re: Stargate SG-1

2004-03-16 Thread G. D. Akin
Jan Coffey

 Can explain why. TA has allways been a big part of Sci-Fi and Sci-Fi
 fandom.

 So much so, that furrism is a direct offshoot of sci-fi fandom.

 There was a lot more skin back in the STOS days. Kirk was getting
 some way more often that Archer. Even Picard and Rieker were getting
 it more than Archer.

 If anything, I would think that SG1 has way too little TA to
 be serious Sci-Fi

-

To answer your first question:  Nerds like SF; nerds understand the science;
nerds are socially inept; vicarious TA is the only TA nerds get . . .
until the movie, that is.

Another line of thought:  remember the final scene in Alien?  When Ripley
(Singourney Weaver) did the little strip tease before discovering she had
more company than Jonesy?  That is one of the best TA in SF ever, IMO.

George A



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Re: Enterprise - was: Stargate SG-1

2004-03-16 Thread G. D. Akin
Jim Burton wrote:


 On Mar 15, 2004, at 4:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [snip]

  BTW anyone see the Enterprise Season Final? Enterprise is getting its
  ass
  kicked... Very cool.
 

 My local station decided to pull it for the current season, the
 bastards!

 Is Enterprise being carried on UPN?

---

It ain't on AFN either.  We got the first two season and it is about time
for season 3 to start.  It was in the Saturday 8:00 PM slot.  However, they
just started one of the many CSI flavors there.  Don't know if that is
instead of or not.

George A



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Re: Stargate SG-1

2004-03-16 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 3/16/2004 9:23:33 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 Trying to think of something that TA would hurt, and I'm drawing a
 blank right now.
 
   Julia
 

I'm trying to think of why it takes a steak on Sunday

Vilyehm Teighlore
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Re: Stargate SG-1

2004-03-16 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Gary Nunn wrote:
 
  and yes more TA in Stargate would be nice, perhaps good old
  RDA hooking up with some sweet alien loving like kirk... I
  mean was their a alien Kirk didnt do?
  -Nick Lidster
 
 If memory serves, the producers DID throw some TA into SG-1 a few years
 ago when the introduced Vanessa Angel as the busty cleavage popping
 scantily clad Goa'uld. According to interviews, this was one of the main
 reasons that Michael Shanks left for one season.
 

The very first episode (aired on Showtime) had full frontal nudity.

How's that for TA?

-- Matt

not that I mind... ;-)
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Re: Stargate SG-1

2004-03-16 Thread G. D. Akin
Matt Grimaldi wrote: 
 
 The very first episode (aired on Showtime) had full frontal nudity.
 
 How's that for TA?
 
 -- Matt
 
 not that I mind... ;-)

--

THAT was a good episode ;-)

George A 


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Re: Stargate SG-1

2004-03-16 Thread G. D. Akin
Julia Thompson wrote:

snip

 Trying to think of something that TA would hurt, and I'm drawing a
 blank right now.

---

Apparently, just a little T hurt the eyes and senses of good taste of
thousands of Superbowl halftime viewers.

 George A



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RE: Stargate SG-1

2004-03-15 Thread ChadCooper
...
 Stargate: Atlantis was 
 geared more toward the younger audience than SG-1 currently 
 has and is using younger actors and more action oriented 
 storylines, not to mention the TA factor to a greater degree 
 than SG-1 did. 

It's a goner...!! TA automatically takes it out of the serious Sci-fi
genre, into an Aaron Spelling-isk drama...
Enterprise is riding that line... 
BTW anyone see the Enterprise Season Final? Enterprise is getting its ass
kicked... Very cool.

Nerd from Hell


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TA and Sci-Fi was Re: Stargate SG-1

2004-03-15 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ...
  Stargate: Atlantis was 
  geared more toward the younger audience than SG-1 currently 
  has and is using younger actors and more action oriented 
  storylines, not to mention the TA factor to a greater degree 
  than SG-1 did. 
 
 It's a goner...!! TA automatically takes it out of the serious Sci-
fi
 genre, 

Can explain why. TA has allways been a big part of Sci-Fi and Sci-Fi 
fandom.

So much so, that furrism is a direct offshoot of sci-fi fandom. 

There was a lot more skin back in the STOS days. Kirk was getting 
some way more often that Archer. Even Picard and Rieker were getting 
it more than Archer.

If anything, I would think that SG1 has way too little TA to 
be serious Sci-Fi

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Re: TA and Sci-Fi was Re: Stargate SG-1

2004-03-15 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 3/15/2004 6:08:30 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 There was a lot more skin back in the STOS days. Kirk was getting 
 some way more often that Archer. Even Picard and Rieker were getting 
 it more than Archer.
 

...must control evil urge.

take moral high ground





losing inner battle.





must say it...














Cheesewiz!







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Re: Stargate SG-1

2004-03-15 Thread Nick Lidster


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 7:55 PM
Subject: RE: Stargate SG-1


 ...
  Stargate: Atlantis was
  geared more toward the younger audience than SG-1 currently
  has and is using younger actors and more action oriented
  storylines, not to mention the TA factor to a greater degree
  than SG-1 did.

 It's a goner...!! TA automatically takes it out of the serious Sci-fi
 genre, into an Aaron Spelling-isk drama...
 Enterprise is riding that line...
 BTW anyone see the Enterprise Season Final? Enterprise is getting its ass
 kicked... Very cool.

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Yeh saw that, however thats not the final for this season, there are i think
5 more episodes for this season that are still in production. and there are
another 5 weeks worth of repeats B4 those are even going to air.


and yes more TA in Stargate would be nice, perhaps good old RDA hooking up
with some sweet alien loving like kirk... I mean was their a alien Kirk
didnt do?


I stand on the threshold of tommorow, atop the stairway of yesterday,
holding the key to today, staring through the door into the future.

-Nick Lidster
26 May 2003

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Re: Stargate SG-1

2004-03-15 Thread Kevin Tarr

I stand on the threshold of tommorow, atop the stairway of yesterday,
holding the key to today, staring through the door into the future.
-Nick Lidster
26 May 2003
Have you said, has anyone asked, why you list that date?

It's my favorite day of any year.

Kevin T. - VRWC
I watch Hellfighters to celebrate 
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Enterprise - was: Stargate SG-1

2004-03-15 Thread Jim Burton
On Mar 15, 2004, at 4:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[snip]

BTW anyone see the Enterprise Season Final? Enterprise is getting its 
ass
kicked... Very cool.

My local station decided to pull it for the current season, the 
bastards!

Is Enterprise being carried on UPN?

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Re: Stargate SG-1

2004-03-15 Thread Nick Lidster

- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: Stargate SG-1



 I stand on the threshold of tommorow, atop the stairway of yesterday,
 holding the key to today, staring through the door into the future.
 
 -Nick Lidster
 26 May 2003

 Have you said, has anyone asked, why you list that date?

 It's my favorite day of any year.

 Kevin T. - VRWC
 I watch Hellfighters to celebrate

Well Kevin That day in particular was like any other to me. Then after
recalling some rather intresting things i had a breif flashof what...i
cannot say. However after that I was left with that realisation that every
decsion that I have made to this point has neither pushed me towards my
dreams nor hindered me from reaching them. The only thing that stands as a
constant is time, and that is only realitive. So from that point on i
decided that i wouldnt just aim for my goals but I would try and grasp at
them and just maybe if I can just grab one and hold on to itI would
accomplish something.. something that would be great to me.
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RE: Stargate SG-1

2004-03-14 Thread Gary Nunn

Jan wrote...
 I agree, I do not hold much hope for atlantis. It appears that 
 hamond will be taking over command of the intersteller ship. It also 
 looks like the story line will move from current time to the future.


I read this yesterday and didn't really catch h what you were saying
until today. I saw that Hammond is in command of the Prometheus, but
where did you see that the story focus shifts to the future? Just
curious.

Gary


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Re: Stargate SG-1

2004-03-14 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gary Nunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Jan wrote...
  I agree, I do not hold much hope for atlantis. It appears that 
  hamond will be taking over command of the intersteller ship. It 
also 
  looks like the story line will move from current time to the 
future.
 
 
 I read this yesterday and didn't really catch h what you were 
saying
 until today. I saw that Hammond is in command of the Prometheus, 
but
 where did you see that the story focus shifts to the future? Just
 curious.

Your right I am guessing, I am putting together the way the 
storyline is playing out and the fact that I read a review which 
says that the last remenents of the t'ha-ri will escape to a new 
stargate system.

If that happens it would have to be in a future earth becouse I 
don't know about you, but I dont remember escaping through a 
stargate, and I don't expect that I will be before the next season 
starts.

But I could be wrong.
 

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Stargate SG-1

2004-03-13 Thread Gary Nunn

As much as I hate to interrupt all of the love that is flowing back and
forth on this list, I was wondering if anyone has been following
Stargate?

You gotta love the conversation they had about the Simpson's.  :-)

I am not quite sure where they are going with this story line. I do see
that they are setting up the new Stargate:Atlantis series that starts in
July. I also see from the IMDB that the new Director of the SGC (Dr.
Elizabeth Weir) is one of the main characters of SG:Atlantis. I wonder
if that means that she will return SGC to the control of Hammond? I also
see that Stargate SG-1 is returning for an eighth season in the Friday
9:00 pm timeslot with the SG:Atlantis in the 10:00 pm slot.  

Just some rambling.



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Re: Stargate SG-1

2004-03-13 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 02:50:33PM -0500, Gary Nunn wrote:

 As much as I hate to interrupt all of the love that is flowing back
 and forth on this list, I was wondering if anyone has been following
 Stargate?

I have, but I haven't watched Friday's episode yet. I have it on tape. I
was thinking about waiting until next Friday to watch it back-to-back
with the season finale, but I might watch it earlier.

 I am not quite sure where they are going with this story line. I
 do see that they are setting up the new Stargate:Atlantis series
 that starts in July. I also see from the IMDB that the new Director
 of the SGC (Dr.  Elizabeth Weir) is one of the main characters of
 SG:Atlantis. I wonder if that means that she will return SGC to the
 control of Hammond? I also see that Stargate SG-1 is returning for an
 eighth season in the Friday 9:00 pm timeslot with the SG:Atlantis in
 the 10:00 pm slot.

H. I didn't know there was a SG spinoff coming. But if it is typical
Sci-Fi channel fare, then I doubt it will be worth watching. I wonder
how much longer the original will stick around, and whether it will go
down hill...


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Re: Stargate SG-1

2004-03-13 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 02:50:33PM -0500, Gary Nunn wrote:
 
  As much as I hate to interrupt all of the love that is flowing 
back
  and forth on this list, I was wondering if anyone has been 
following
  Stargate?
 
 I have, but I haven't watched Friday's episode yet. I have it on 
tape. I
 was thinking about waiting until next Friday to watch it back-to-
back
 with the season finale, but I might watch it earlier.
 
  I am not quite sure where they are going with this story line. I
  do see that they are setting up the new Stargate:Atlantis series
  that starts in July. I also see from the IMDB that the new 
Director
  of the SGC (Dr.  Elizabeth Weir) is one of the main characters of
  SG:Atlantis. I wonder if that means that she will return SGC to 
the
  control of Hammond? I also see that Stargate SG-1 is returning 
for an
  eighth season in the Friday 9:00 pm timeslot with the 
SG:Atlantis in
  the 10:00 pm slot.
 
 H. I didn't know there was a SG spinoff coming. But if it is 
typical
 Sci-Fi channel fare, then I doubt it will be worth watching. I 
wonder
 how much longer the original will stick around, and whether it 
will go
 down hill...

Agreeing with Erik is a very strange feeling. But then that is what 
this list is about after all. We all like HCSF.

I agree, I do not hold much hope for atlantis. It appears that 
hamond will be taking over command of the intersteller ship. It also 
looks like the story line will move from current time to the future.

I do not know of any other tv story which has done this (other than 
enterprise in the trailer). There have been some that started in the 
past and then ended in current time (or a few months or years from 
now) but none that went from current time to the future in quite the 
way the SG1 seems to be poised to do.

I really was drawn to the CTG line by Benford becouse it stradeled 
current time.

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RE: Stargate SG-1

2004-03-13 Thread Gary Nunn

Erik wrote...
 H. I didn't know there was a SG spinoff coming. But if it 
 is typical Sci-Fi channel fare, then I doubt it will be worth 
 watching. I wonder how much longer the original will stick 
 around, and whether it will go down hill...

Oops, sorry if I included a spoiler in my last post. * There are no SG-1
season finale spoilers below*

I also fear that the original series will go downhill, especially with
Richard Dean Anderson's role being greatly diminished. I read an article
a few months ago that said Richard Dean Anderson would still be on the
series, but in a greatly diminished role so that he could spend more
time with his family. The same article said that Stargate: Atlantis was
geared more toward the younger audience than SG-1 currently has and is
using younger actors and more action oriented storylines, not to mention
the TA factor to a greater degree than SG-1 did. Unfortunately, I can't
find that article again, but here is an excerpt from the Sci-Fi channel
website and a couple of links:


From Sci-Fi Channel website
SCI FI Channel and MGM Television Entertainment have reached an
agreement to extend MGM's Stargate brand with a new series for the
Channel. Production on 20 one-hour episodes of Stargate Atlantis, a
weekly series based on the popular Stargate franchise, will begin in
early 2004. Stargate Atlantis is slated to premiere in Summer '04, in
tandem with the Season Eight launch of Stargate SG-1, exclusively on SCI
FI. 

Complete article.
http://www.scifi.com/atlantis/


IMDB
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0374455/


I did notice that Dr. Elizabeth Weir is being played by Jessica Steen on
SG-1, but that character is being played by someone else in SG:Atlantis.

Gary



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Re: Stargate SG-1

2003-03-11 Thread Matt Grimaldi
William T Goodall wrote:
 
 In more recent seasons they have streamlined this a bit (how boring is
 a 'learning the language' scene in every ep?) - feel free to imagine it
 for yourself if it bugs you :)
 


Basically, the aliens either have a universal translator,
or the first contact team figures out a way to communicate
off camera.

I know of at least one episode where the finding-a-
common-language process was important to the plot,
and was featured prominently in the story.

-- Matt

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Re: Stargate SG-1

2003-03-11 Thread Matt Grimaldi
William T Goodall wrote:
 
 In more recent seasons they have streamlined this a bit (how boring is
 a 'learning the language' scene in every ep?) - feel free to imagine it
 for yourself if it bugs you :)
 


Basically, the aliens either have a universal translator,
or the first contact team figures out a way to communicate
off camera.

I know of at least one episode where the finding-a-
common-language process was important to the plot,
and was featured prominently in the story.

-- Matt
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Re: Stargate SG-1

2003-03-10 Thread G. D. Akin

- Original Message - 
From: Gary L. Nunn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Killer Bs Discussion' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 9:40 AM
Subject: RE: Stargate SG-1


 
  Did they have different languages in the movie?
  Julia
 
 
 Yes, they spoke some variation of some obscure Egyptian dialect that
 Samuel Jackson eventually recognized and understood.
 
 Gary


I know you mean Daniel Jackson.

George A


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Re: Stargate SG-1

2003-03-10 Thread G. D. Akin
 Gary L. Nunn wrote:

 I really, really like Stargate SG-1, but it is really starting to annoy
me that every alien race that they meet knows English -  but they all
have alien type writing. I realize that the back story is that all of
the humans in the galaxy have common origins because of the Goa'uld, but
I think the language would evolve very differently over the thousands of
years of isolation.



Me too.  We're getting season 5 in Korea, courtesy of American Forces
Network - Korea (AFN-K).  I have not been able to find it on any Korean
channel.

Anyway, it is my one gotta see show every week.

I don't mind the language thing.  If they spoke a different language on
every planet, the show would be a much tougher watch.  I do think the
language would evolve over time.

George A




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RE: Stargate SG-1

2003-03-10 Thread Gary L. Nunn
 I know you mean Daniel Jackson.
 George A

I was thinking Daniel but typed Samuel. That's what happens when I
try to reply to a post when I am exhausted :-)

Gary

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Re: Stargate SG-1

2003-03-10 Thread William T Goodall
On Monday, March 10, 2003, at 10:36  am, G. D. Akin wrote:

 Gary L. Nunn wrote:

 I really, really like Stargate SG-1, but it is really starting to 
annoy
me that every alien race that they meet knows English -  but they all
have alien type writing. I realize that the back story is that all of
the humans in the galaxy have common origins because of the Goa'uld, 
but
I think the language would evolve very differently over the thousands 
of
years of isolation.



Me too.  We're getting season 5 in Korea, courtesy of American Forces
Network - Korea (AFN-K).  I have not been able to find it on any Korean
channel.
Anyway, it is my one gotta see show every week.

I don't mind the language thing.  If they spoke a different language on
every planet, the show would be a much tougher watch.  I do think the
language would evolve over time.
From the official FAQ at http://www.mgm.com/stargate/home/faq/#13

Why does every culture SG-1 encounters speak English?
They do not. As many cultures encountered by the SG teams are derived 
from ancient Earth cultures, as a linguist, Daniel Jackson is able to 
communicate with most of these cultures. SG-1 also has Teal'c along, a 
90 year old Jaffa, who can communicate with all other Goa'ulds. 
Occasionally, SG-1 even encounters a race, like the Asguard, who are 
technologically superior to humans and decipher english in order to 
communicate with the team.

In more recent seasons they have streamlined this a bit (how boring is 
a 'learning the language' scene in every ep?) - feel free to imagine it 
for yourself if it bugs you :)

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Re: Stargate SG-1

2003-03-10 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 07:33 PM 3/10/03 +0900, G. D. Akin wrote:

- Original Message -
From: Gary L. Nunn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Killer Bs Discussion' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 9:40 AM
Subject: RE: Stargate SG-1

  Did they have different languages in the movie?
  Julia


 Yes, they spoke some variation of some obscure Egyptian dialect that
 Samuel Jackson eventually recognized and understood.

 Gary
I know you mean Daniel Jackson.


You didn't see the _original_ version, before they recast the part?

;-)



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Whose Power extends to great and small,
Who guides the stars with steadfast law,
Whose least creation fills with awe,
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To those who venture into space.
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Re: Stargate SG-1

2003-03-10 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 07:36 PM 3/10/03 +0900, G. D. Akin wrote:
 Gary L. Nunn wrote:

 I really, really like Stargate SG-1, but it is really starting to annoy
me that every alien race that they meet knows English -  but they all
have alien type writing. I realize that the back story is that all of
the humans in the galaxy have common origins because of the Goa'uld, but
I think the language would evolve very differently over the thousands of
years of isolation.


Me too.  We're getting season 5 in Korea, courtesy of American Forces
Network - Korea (AFN-K).  I have not been able to find it on any Korean
channel.
Anyway, it is my one gotta see show every week.

I don't mind the language thing.  If they spoke a different language on
every planet, the show would be a much tougher watch.


And that is the real reason:  If they had to spend several minutes out of 
every episode having _Daniel_ Jackson translate every word of the alien's 
speech, it would slow the plot down.  Or if the aliens spoke gibberish on 
camera with subtitles across the bottom, people would rapidly get tired of 
having to read the (sometimes too small and too little contrast with the 
scene) subtitles.  And then there are the people who try to watch TV while 
also answering e-mail who listen to the TV but don't want to have to be 
reading off the TV all the time . . .



I do think the language would evolve over time.


True.  Think of it as a version of literary license.  (I know it's a 
stretch calling TV literary . . . )



-- Ronn!  :)

Almighty Ruler of the all,
Whose Power extends to great and small,
Who guides the stars with steadfast law,
Whose least creation fills with awe,
O grant thy mercy and thy grace,
To those who venture into space.
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Re: Stargate SG-1

2003-03-09 Thread Julia Thompson
Gary L. Nunn wrote:
 
 I really, really like Stargate SG-1, but it is really starting to annoy
 me that every alien race that they meet knows English -  but they all
 have alien type writing. I realize that the back story is that all of
 the humans in the galaxy have common origins because of the Goa'uld, but
 I think the language would evolve very differently over the thousands of
 years of isolation.

Yes, it would, but everyone having a different language would bog things
down fairly quickly.

Did they have different languages in the movie?

Julia
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RE: Stargate SG-1

2003-03-09 Thread Gary L. Nunn

 Did they have different languages in the movie?
   Julia


Yes, they spoke some variation of some obscure Egyptian dialect that
Samuel Jackson eventually recognized and understood.

Gary

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Stargate SG-1

2003-03-08 Thread Gary L. Nunn

I really, really like Stargate SG-1, but it is really starting to annoy
me that every alien race that they meet knows English -  but they all
have alien type writing. I realize that the back story is that all of
the humans in the galaxy have common origins because of the Goa'uld, but
I think the language would evolve very differently over the thousands of
years of isolation.

Gary

Sum it all up in one word - WTF Maru

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Re: Stargate SG-1

2003-03-08 Thread The Fool
 From: Gary L. Nunn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 I really, really like Stargate SG-1, but it is really starting to annoy
 me that every alien race that they meet knows English -  but they all
 have alien type writing. I realize that the back story is that all of
 the humans in the galaxy have common origins because of the Goa'uld,
but
 I think the language would evolve very differently over the thousands
of
 years of isolation.
 
 Gary
 
 Sum it all up in one word - WTF Maru

Every science fiction show does this to one extent or another.  It just
makes things so much easier (and you can avoid going over the same
language barrier crap, in every single episode).  Star Treks excuse is
the universal translator (enterprize has been pretty good about language
issues tho).  In Dr Who, the TARDIS is telepathic.  SG SG-1 doesn't have
a very good excuse tho.

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Re: Stargate SG-1

2003-03-08 Thread David Hobby
Gary L. Nunn wrote:
 
 I really, really like Stargate SG-1, but it is really starting to annoy
 me that every alien race that they meet knows English -  but they all
 have alien type writing. I realize that the back story is that all of
 the humans in the galaxy have common origins because of the Goa'uld, but
 I think the language would evolve very differently over the thousands of
 years of isolation.
 
 Gary
 
 Sum it all up in one word - WTF Maru

Yes, I've been watching the Stargate series too, taping 
4 episodes a Monday from SciFi.  Although I'm about two months 
behind in actually watching them at the moment.
It bugs me too, but the alternative would be to have
Daniel/Jonas do all the talking, translating for O'Neil et al.
All this with subtitles!  That would interupt the flow of things
a fair amount.

---David

on topic  In _The Practice Effect_, the humans speak English
but have an invented syllabary to write in.  So who's to argue?
off topic
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RE: Stargate SG-1

2003-03-08 Thread Gary L. Nunn

   Yes, I've been watching the Stargate series too, taping 
 4 episodes a Monday from SciFi.  Although I'm about two months 
 behind in actually watching them at the moment.
   It bugs me too, but the alternative would be to have 
 Daniel/Jonas do all the talking, translating for O'Neil et 
 al. All this with subtitles!  That would interupt the flow of 
 things a fair amount.
   ---David

I agree that make the plot a bit simpler, but I wish that every once and
a while they would either deal with the difference or explain it. My
favorite explanation for the language difference is from Farscape -
Translator Microbes.  Also, on Farscape I did like the plot line about
the redhead not being able to have translator microbes and have to learn
the languages

Gary

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Re: Stargate SG-1

2003-03-08 Thread Alberto Monteiro

Gary L. Nunn wrote:


I really, really like Stargate SG-1, but it is really starting to annoy
me that every alien race that they meet knows English -  (...)

But they are *not* speaking English. They are speaking Rigellian,
which, by coincidence, is identical to English

Alberto Monteiro


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RE: Stargate SG-1

2003-03-08 Thread Miller, Jeffrey


 -Original Message-
 From: The Fool [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 07:07 AM
 To: Killer Bs Discussion
 Subject: Re: Stargate SG-1
 
 
  From: Gary L. Nunn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  I really, really like Stargate SG-1, but it is really starting to 
  annoy me that every alien race that they meet knows English -  but 
  they all have alien type writing. I realize that the back story is 
  that all of the humans in the galaxy have common origins because of 
  the Goa'uld,
 but
  I think the language would evolve very differently over the 
 thousands
 of
  years of isolation.
  
  Gary
  
  Sum it all up in one word - WTF Maru
 
 Every science fiction show does this to one extent or 
 another.  It just makes things so much easier (and you can 
 avoid going over the same language barrier crap, in every 
 single episode).  Star Treks excuse is the universal 
 translator (enterprize has been pretty good about language 
 issues tho).  In Dr Who, the TARDIS is telepathic.  SG SG-1 
 doesn't have a very good excuse tho.

Oh, I know!  The stargate itself modifies the bone structure of the ear to understand 
the languages spoken on the other side.  It does this through a meticulous but 
mysterious subroutine in the transit..

-j-
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Stargate SG-1 TV series comment Re: B5 dvd

2003-02-06 Thread Julia Thompson
Julia Thompson wrote:
 
 Ah, but the series has Richard Dean Anderson.  :)  And Christopher Judge is
 a hoot.

Oh, and if there are any Ranma 1/2 fans who watch the American-dubbed
version, the actress who did the voiceover for Kodachi Black Rose Kunou is
on the show, although her Stargate SG-1 work is strangely missing from
IMDB.  :P  (Someone has alerted them to the omission, but doesn't know how
long it's going to take to get it remedied.)

Julia

Ridiculous Trivia Maru
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Re: Stargate SG-1 TV series comment Re: B5 dvd

2003-02-06 Thread Julia Thompson
Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
 
 At 12:41 PM 2/6/03 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
 Julia Thompson wrote:
  
   And Christopher Judge is a hoot.
 
 Agreed.
 
 Oh, and if there are any Ranma 1/2 fans who watch the American-dubbed
 version, the actress who did the voiceover for Kodachi Black Rose Kunou is
 on the show, although her Stargate SG-1 work is strangely missing from
 IMDB.
 
 And for those who may not otherwise know who in heck she is, what part does
 she play in SG-1?

Dr. Janet Frasier.

And ever since I've found out about the Ranma 1/2 stuff, I've been alert for
signs of Dr. Frasier, well, losing it

Julia
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