Re: is Cakephp 1.2 faster than Code Igniter ?
How are you going to measure the performance? The time it takes to process a request? The time it takes to develop? Are you going to implement caching? Are you going to try multiple datasources (of various types)? I realize that performance is a complicated issue. I'm currently finding out about different performance testing methods. I'm also going to compare features of frameworks and I'm going to measure development time and other factors while coding test application with each of the frameworks. I'll propably run performance tests both with and without caching. Propably only datasource will be MySQL-database. IMO, a real-world app should have the following features: - User registration - Authentication - Database interaction - At least 5 models, which cover various types of associations - Data validation - Security - Session management - Web service API (at least provisioning) - Administrative interface I'm thinking along the same lines, except I'm not sure if administrative interface is essential when comparing performance. -Kalle --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: is Cakephp 1.2 faster than Code Igniter ?
On 5 marras, 19:34, BrendonKoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another issue with benchmarking is that when dealing with OOP, or any code in PHP, TMTOWTDI (There's More Than One Way To Do It)... So, to properly benchmark any framework, one would have to know each framework inside and out to take advantage of all the tricks to increase performance when necessary, and increase development time when not necessary. This is one of the major issues that many framework performance testers have found...they don't know their frameworks as best as possible, or may know one to a varying degree more than another and not make as many allowable mistakes in one over another. It's hard to get a true non-bias performance test, even if you're trying really hard. ;) That is true. However I'm going to use each frameworks helpers and components when available. That way I'll find how significant the trade-off between shorter development time and system performance is? -Kalle --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: is Cakephp 1.2 faster than Code Igniter ?
Sure, administrative interface might be extra... but again it comes down to the way you plan to measure performance. I believe that admin interface, is an integral post of a vast majority of mature web apps. With CakePHP's admin routing and Auth, such can build fairly painless and quickly. How long would it take you to build one if such facility is not provided? Does that matter in the way performance is measured? IMO, it is... but again, that depends on your criteria. On Nov 6, 9:54 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How are you going to measure the performance? The time it takes to process a request? The time it takes to develop? Are you going to implement caching? Are you going to try multiple datasources (of various types)? I realize that performance is a complicated issue. I'm currently finding out about different performance testing methods. I'm also going to compare features of frameworks and I'm going to measure development time and other factors while coding test application with each of the frameworks. I'll propably run performance tests both with and without caching. Propably only datasource will be MySQL-database. IMO, a real-world app should have the following features: - User registration - Authentication - Database interaction - At least 5 models, which cover various types of associations - Data validation - Security - Session management - Web service API (at least provisioning) - Administrative interface I'm thinking along the same lines, except I'm not sure if administrative interface is essential when comparing performance. -Kalle --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: is Cakephp 1.2 faster than Code Igniter ?
There are a few other issues to consider... For example the learning curve. To get to know CakePHP on an intimate level you'll probably need 3-6 months of solid development, depending on ones ability to learn and previous experience with PHP and OO, of course. After spending more than 1.5 years of developing with CakePHP almost daily, (I'd like to think :)) it's possible for most to build an app with the features I've described above in a matter of a 1-2 weeks (5-8 hrs a day). Secondly, how well does a framework protect you from doing things the wrong way? CodeIgniter is more open and many people claim it has a much easier learning curve, which may very well be true... but is learning curve lower, because some poor, old habits and can be implemented faster? (i.e. take some old/bad code and quickly port it to CI). There's a lot to consider in a fair presentation of a framework's environment, but considering you're doing a science masters thesis, I do hope you come with the mindset on how to approach it. Certainly wish you the best in this endeavor. On Nov 6, 10:01 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5 marras, 19:34, BrendonKoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another issue with benchmarking is that when dealing with OOP, or any code in PHP, TMTOWTDI (There's More Than One Way To Do It)... So, to properly benchmark any framework, one would have to know each framework inside and out to take advantage of all the tricks to increase performance when necessary, and increase development time when not necessary. This is one of the major issues that many framework performance testers have found...they don't know their frameworks as best as possible, or may know one to a varying degree more than another and not make as many allowable mistakes in one over another. It's hard to get a true non-bias performance test, even if you're trying really hard. ;) That is true. However I'm going to use each frameworks helpers and components when available. That way I'll find how significant the trade-off between shorter development time and system performance is? -Kalle --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: is Cakephp 1.2 faster than Code Igniter ?
I'm writing my computer science masters thesis about PHP-frameworks. All performance tests I've been able to find use hello world- application. I'm planning to code a test application with few frameworks. What kind of application it should be? What would you think are the essential requirements to get a fair results of each framework's performance? Currently I'm comparing CakePHP, Codeigniter, Symfony and Zend Framework. Do you those are the essential ones? -Kalle On 28 loka, 19:39, mark_story [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 27, 9:38 pm, teknoid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a test... Create a file index.html in the web root of your server with the content hello world. Now take any framework and compare the speed it takes to render... the index.html framework beats them all! index.html framework is by far the best clearly! Forget this CakePHP crap, I'm going all index.html framework from now on. /sarcasm I would like to see some development benchmarks as well, that would be interesting. How long it takes to build an example non 'hello world' app in each of these frameworks. Like teknoid said, servers are cheap man months are not. So this benchmark could be more useful for people choosing frameworks. With the example teknoid gave, it would take 16 years of CakePHP hosting to equal index.html framework development time. -Mark On the other hand we can do another test... Take CakePHP and develop a fully functional application with 60 models (or so) in two months. To double it'sperformancewe purchase a dedicated server for $119/month. Or we could write one from scratch in about 4 months (if we're lucky), which means that we've spend 320 extra hours of development time (40 hrs per week * 8 extra weeks) at $75/hr.. which translates to extra $24,000 spent on the project. I'm not really sure, which one of these tests is more pointless ... but to me it seems silly to measure a framework'sperformancewith hello world. On Oct 27, 12:04 pm, wahyu setianto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have read inhttp://www.yiiframework.com/performance, it is true ? i know that CI is faster than cakephp because CI is not using OOP actualy -- Octopus East Java Baker --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: is Cakephp 1.2 faster than Code Igniter ?
Interesting. You might try asking one of the cake developers, what benchmark app(s) they have written to use for their recent performance optimization effort. If they have some already, why not try one of theirs? On Nov 5, 5:11 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm writing my computer science masters thesis about PHP-frameworks. All performance tests I've been able to find use hello world- application. I'm planning to code a test application with few frameworks. What kind of application it should be? What would you think are the essential requirements to get a fair results of each framework's performance? Currently I'm comparing CakePHP, Codeigniter, Symfony and Zend Framework. Do you those are the essential ones? -Kalle On 28 loka, 19:39, mark_story [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 27, 9:38 pm, teknoid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a test... Create a file index.html in the web root of your server with the content hello world. Now take any framework and compare the speed it takes to render... the index.html framework beats them all! index.html framework is by far the best clearly! Forget this CakePHP crap, I'm going all index.html framework from now on. /sarcasm I would like to see some development benchmarks as well, that would be interesting. How long it takes to build an example non 'hello world' app in each of these frameworks. Like teknoid said, servers are cheap man months are not. So this benchmark could be more useful for people choosing frameworks. With the example teknoid gave, it would take 16 years of CakePHP hosting to equal index.html framework development time. -Mark On the other hand we can do another test... Take CakePHP and develop a fully functional application with 60 models (or so) in two months. To double it'sperformancewe purchase a dedicated server for $119/month. Or we could write one from scratch in about 4 months (if we're lucky), which means that we've spend 320 extra hours of development time (40 hrs per week * 8 extra weeks) at $75/hr.. which translates to extra $24,000 spent on the project. I'm not really sure, which one of these tests is more pointless ... but to me it seems silly to measure a framework'sperformancewith hello world. On Oct 27, 12:04 pm, wahyu setianto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have read inhttp://www.yiiframework.com/performance, it is true ? i know that CI is faster than cakephp because CI is not using OOP actualy -- Octopus East Java Baker --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: is Cakephp 1.2 faster than Code Igniter ?
Another issue with benchmarking is that when dealing with OOP, or any code in PHP, TMTOWTDI (There's More Than One Way To Do It)... So, to properly benchmark any framework, one would have to know each framework inside and out to take advantage of all the tricks to increase performance when necessary, and increase development time when not necessary. This is one of the major issues that many framework performance testers have found...they don't know their frameworks as best as possible, or may know one to a varying degree more than another and not make as many allowable mistakes in one over another. It's hard to get a true non-bias performance test, even if you're trying really hard. ;) On Nov 5, 5:11 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm writing my computer science masters thesis about PHP-frameworks. All performance tests I've been able to find use hello world- application. I'm planning to code a test application with few frameworks. What kind of application it should be? What would you think are the essential requirements to get a fair results of each framework's performance? Currently I'm comparing CakePHP, Codeigniter, Symfony and Zend Framework. Do you those are the essential ones? -Kalle On 28 loka, 19:39, mark_story [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 27, 9:38 pm, teknoid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a test... Create a file index.html in the web root of your server with the content hello world. Now take any framework and compare the speed it takes to render... the index.html framework beats them all! index.html framework is by far the best clearly! Forget this CakePHP crap, I'm going all index.html framework from now on. /sarcasm I would like to see some development benchmarks as well, that would be interesting. How long it takes to build an example non 'hello world' app in each of these frameworks. Like teknoid said, servers are cheap man months are not. So this benchmark could be more useful for people choosing frameworks. With the example teknoid gave, it would take 16 years of CakePHP hosting to equal index.html framework development time. -Mark On the other hand we can do another test... Take CakePHP and develop a fully functional application with 60 models (or so) in two months. To double it'sperformancewe purchase a dedicated server for $119/month. Or we could write one from scratch in about 4 months (if we're lucky), which means that we've spend 320 extra hours of development time (40 hrs per week * 8 extra weeks) at $75/hr.. which translates to extra $24,000 spent on the project. I'm not really sure, which one of these tests is more pointless ... but to me it seems silly to measure a framework'sperformancewith hello world. On Oct 27, 12:04 pm, wahyu setianto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have read inhttp://www.yiiframework.com/performance, it is true ? i know that CI is faster than cakephp because CI is not using OOP actualy -- Octopus East Java Baker- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: is Cakephp 1.2 faster than Code Igniter ?
How are you going to measure the performance? The time it takes to process a request? The time it takes to develop? Are you going to implement caching? Are you going to try multiple datasources (of various types)? IMO, a real-world app should have the following features: - User registration - Authentication - Database interaction - At least 5 models, which cover various types of associations - Data validation - Security - Session management - Web service API (at least provisioning) - Administrative interface On Nov 5, 5:11 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm writing my computer science masters thesis about PHP-frameworks. All performance tests I've been able to find use hello world- application. I'm planning to code a test application with few frameworks. What kind of application it should be? What would you think are the essential requirements to get a fair results of each framework's performance? Currently I'm comparing CakePHP, Codeigniter, Symfony and Zend Framework. Do you those are the essential ones? -Kalle On 28 loka, 19:39, mark_story [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 27, 9:38 pm, teknoid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a test... Create a file index.html in the web root of your server with the content hello world. Now take any framework and compare the speed it takes to render... the index.html framework beats them all! index.html framework is by far the best clearly! Forget this CakePHP crap, I'm going all index.html framework from now on. /sarcasm I would like to see some development benchmarks as well, that would be interesting. How long it takes to build an example non 'hello world' app in each of these frameworks. Like teknoid said, servers are cheap man months are not. So this benchmark could be more useful for people choosing frameworks. With the example teknoid gave, it would take 16 years of CakePHP hosting to equal index.html framework development time. -Mark On the other hand we can do another test... Take CakePHP and develop a fully functional application with 60 models (or so) in two months. To double it'sperformancewe purchase a dedicated server for $119/month. Or we could write one from scratch in about 4 months (if we're lucky), which means that we've spend 320 extra hours of development time (40 hrs per week * 8 extra weeks) at $75/hr.. which translates to extra $24,000 spent on the project. I'm not really sure, which one of these tests is more pointless ... but to me it seems silly to measure a framework'sperformancewith hello world. On Oct 27, 12:04 pm, wahyu setianto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have read inhttp://www.yiiframework.com/performance, it is true ? i know that CI is faster than cakephp because CI is not using OOP actualy -- Octopus East Java Baker --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: is Cakephp 1.2 faster than Code Igniter ?
Amen! That Hello World test are so useless... Teknoid, you are the man! Cheers, mbavio On Oct 27, 11:38 pm, teknoid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a test... Create a file index.html in the web root of your server with the content hello world. Now take any framework and compare the speed it takes to render... the index.html framework beats them all! On the other hand we can do another test... Take CakePHP and develop a fully functional application with 60 models (or so) in two months. To double it's performance we purchase a dedicated server for $119/month. Or we could write one from scratch in about 4 months (if we're lucky), which means that we've spend 320 extra hours of development time (40 hrs per week * 8 extra weeks) at $75/hr.. which translates to extra $24,000 spent on the project. I'm not really sure, which one of these tests is more pointless ... but to me it seems silly to measure a framework's performance with hello world. On Oct 27, 12:04 pm, wahyu setianto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have read inhttp://www.yiiframework.com/performance, it is true ? i know that CI is faster than cakephp because CI is not using OOP actualy -- Octopus East Java Baker --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: is Cakephp 1.2 faster than Code Igniter ?
I don't know about the rest of you. But I don't use a Framework for its amazingly fast code. If I wanted really fast code I'd write it all myself specific to each project. I use a framework to decrease the amount of time I have to spend working on any one project. I use a framework to reduce the risk of a potentially major and costly bugs. I use a framework because I enjoy working with a good set of tools covering a breadth of sometimes challenging topics. And most important I use a framework because of the dedication and commitment the community surrounding a framework has in improving the aforementioned reasons. Which framework is faster? It doesn't really matter if your project never gets deployed. I've found people looking for the fastest framework are just to lazy to profile a working app to see exactly where the app has a real speed issue that would even matter to the end user of the app. These same type seem to profile the application before they have any useful and functional code to profile. And if your really curious Hello World! is neither useful or functional. At least not to me or my customers. If you were a real part of any of these communities your efforts in profiling the speed of a framework should be to fix and contribute faster code with test to the frameworks core. If you can neither fix or contribute to the source then you don't understand the core, which also means you shouldn't be profiling something you don't understand. From my own experience with my end users, not one of them has complained about the speed of the apps I've written using cakephp. They have all made multiple request for more features, or for changes in existing features. Which happily I'm able to say I can usually turn those features out in a couple hours or days. Had I a faster framework I'm sure those features would have taken weeks. Comparing a frameworks speed is kinda like comparing the RPM of the engine of race cars. Just because the engines rpm is faster to rev up and just because the engines top rpm is greater than the other. Doesn't mean the car will win. Their are so many more components like the drive tran and wheel size, tire composition, and most important the driver and his understanding of his machine. LunarDraco On Oct 28, 8:00 am, mbavio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amen! That Hello World test are so useless... Teknoid, you are the man! Cheers, mbavio On Oct 27, 11:38 pm, teknoid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a test... Create a file index.html in the web root of your server with the content hello world. Now take any framework and compare the speed it takes to render... the index.html framework beats them all! On the other hand we can do another test... Take CakePHP and develop a fully functional application with 60 models (or so) in two months. To double it's performance we purchase a dedicated server for $119/month. Or we could write one from scratch in about 4 months (if we're lucky), which means that we've spend 320 extra hours of development time (40 hrs per week * 8 extra weeks) at $75/hr.. which translates to extra $24,000 spent on the project. I'm not really sure, which one of these tests is more pointless ... but to me it seems silly to measure a framework's performance with hello world. On Oct 27, 12:04 pm, wahyu setianto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have read inhttp://www.yiiframework.com/performance, it is true ? i know that CI is faster than cakephp because CI is not using OOP actualy -- Octopus East Java Baker --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: is Cakephp 1.2 faster than Code Igniter ?
On Oct 27, 9:38 pm, teknoid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a test... Create a file index.html in the web root of your server with the content hello world. Now take any framework and compare the speed it takes to render... the index.html framework beats them all! index.html framework is by far the best clearly! Forget this CakePHP crap, I'm going all index.html framework from now on. /sarcasm I would like to see some development benchmarks as well, that would be interesting. How long it takes to build an example non 'hello world' app in each of these frameworks. Like teknoid said, servers are cheap man months are not. So this benchmark could be more useful for people choosing frameworks. With the example teknoid gave, it would take 16 years of CakePHP hosting to equal index.html framework development time. -Mark On the other hand we can do another test... Take CakePHP and develop a fully functional application with 60 models (or so) in two months. To double it's performance we purchase a dedicated server for $119/month. Or we could write one from scratch in about 4 months (if we're lucky), which means that we've spend 320 extra hours of development time (40 hrs per week * 8 extra weeks) at $75/hr.. which translates to extra $24,000 spent on the project. I'm not really sure, which one of these tests is more pointless ... but to me it seems silly to measure a framework's performance with hello world. On Oct 27, 12:04 pm, wahyu setianto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have read inhttp://www.yiiframework.com/performance, it is true ? i know that CI is faster than cakephp because CI is not using OOP actualy -- Octopus East Java Baker --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
is Cakephp 1.2 faster than Code Igniter ?
I have read in http://www.yiiframework.com/performance , it is true ? i know that CI is faster than cakephp because CI is not using OOP actualy -- Octopus East Java Baker --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: is Cakephp 1.2 faster than Code Igniter ?
I know I am faster in CakePHP 1.2 than in Codeigniter... ;) sorry, couldn't resist. On Oct 27, 5:04 pm, wahyu setianto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have read inhttp://www.yiiframework.com/performance, it is true ? i know that CI is faster than cakephp because CI is not using OOP actualy -- Octopus East Java Baker --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: is Cakephp 1.2 faster than Code Igniter ?
What's the word on Yii? I can't find much about it from third-party sources, but it looks like an interesting project. Thomas On Oct 27, 12:44 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know I am faster in CakePHP 1.2 than in Codeigniter... ;) sorry, couldn't resist. On Oct 27, 5:04 pm, wahyu setianto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have read inhttp://www.yiiframework.com/performance, it is true ? i know that CI is faster than cakephp because CI is not using OOP actualy -- Octopus East Java Baker --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: is Cakephp 1.2 faster than Code Igniter ?
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:04 AM, wahyu setianto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have read in http://www.yiiframework.com/performance , it is true ? i know that CI is faster than cakephp because CI is not using OOP actualy I don't know how valid is that comparision can be as it's comparing CakePHP 1.1.2 and not the latest version. Also if you *know* that CI is faster than CakePHP because it isn't OO, do you have prove of it? some benchmarks for example ? Cheers, -- Juan Luis Baptiste --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: is Cakephp 1.2 faster than Code Igniter ?
This benchmark should not be taken seriously. There is no available methodology or documentation to reproduce the results independently, nor is there any explanation of how the benchmarks were conducted. Most likely, Yii *appears* to be fast because it does nothing or next to nothing for you. On Oct 27, 12:04 pm, wahyu setianto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have read inhttp://www.yiiframework.com/performance, it is true ? i know that CI is faster than cakephp because CI is not using OOP actualy -- Octopus East Java Baker --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: is Cakephp 1.2 faster than Code Igniter ?
Here's a test... Create a file index.html in the web root of your server with the content hello world. Now take any framework and compare the speed it takes to render... the index.html framework beats them all! On the other hand we can do another test... Take CakePHP and develop a fully functional application with 60 models (or so) in two months. To double it's performance we purchase a dedicated server for $119/month. Or we could write one from scratch in about 4 months (if we're lucky), which means that we've spend 320 extra hours of development time (40 hrs per week * 8 extra weeks) at $75/hr.. which translates to extra $24,000 spent on the project. I'm not really sure, which one of these tests is more pointless ... but to me it seems silly to measure a framework's performance with hello world. On Oct 27, 12:04 pm, wahyu setianto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have read inhttp://www.yiiframework.com/performance, it is true ? i know that CI is faster than cakephp because CI is not using OOP actualy -- Octopus East Java Baker --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: is Cakephp 1.2 faster than Code Igniter ?
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