Re: [Care2002-developers] AIDS ARV ART with Care2x
Roel Remember this if you get too focused you will loose capibilities you will need a future period of time. Especially when you start tracking true stastices related to patient care. For instance it may seem superfical to track patient beds, equipment, but when you have to start looking for the cause of a VRE or MRSA out break in your aids patients you will ned this data because this equipment can become the means of spreading the desease from patient to patient. You should collect the data and trim how you present the data to the end user, but you should always collect the data inorder to leave your research options open. Matt Roel De Meester wrote: >I've been thinking for weeks/months about converting Care2x into an EMR >directed at clinics and medical centres doing longterm studies on >HIV/AIDS patient. >Last month a major report was released by Rhino.org.. [ >*http://tinyurl.com/5kfaz* ] >Main conclusions about Care2x to support ART > >Advantages: >It runs on a modern web thin client web server platform and is all open >source software. >It will run on any hardware platform. It is scalable and can run large >enterprises. Open source will let you maintain and modify the software >to meet your needs. > >Disadvantages: >This is a large software package with many functions that may not be >necessary in smaller hospitals and may interfere with effective training >and use. >Although this software can be used for outpatient EMR, it is not >designed for that use. The extra features have the potential to cause >confusion when they are not used. >This software will require modification to support ART. > > >The main issue is that Care2x is development to process almost all >information in a large scale clinic, while for ART the most important >things are >1. Only Out Patients. >2. Main users are a)Administration[check-in], b)(Social)Nurses, >c)Doctors, d)Bio-statisticians > >Will the Care2x PM solve these issues? >What is the current status of this 'branch'? Where are we now on the >timescale of http://www.care2x.org/img/timetable-pm1k.png >Who are the main developers for this 'branch'? > >Is any-one interested in helping me to create the ART module? > > >For your information: There were Some other Care2002 discussions >involving the use of Care2x in AIDS -related situations >[ *http://tinyurl.com/6v7l3 , **http://tinyurl.com/5atcc** ]. > >* >Greetings >Roel De Meester > > begin:vcard fn:Matthew Lottinger n:Lottinger;Matthew adr;dom:;;1001 S. Broad ;New Orleans;LA;70125 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:President tel;work:504-827-3624 version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [Care2002-developers] AIDS ARV ART with Care2x
Hello, We have also a big HIV/AIDS program and they need a program for it. We are now working on other features but with the co-operation of others we would like to use Care2x also for that program. When we are developing Care2x we are making a single computer system for small clinics and I do not see it a problem. At the same time we are doing it to fit for bigger hospitals. On administrative lever it is possible to hide so much unnecessary information that we hope to use the same for both. Mauri Niemi On 1 Sep 2004 at 10:58, Roel De Meester wrote: > I've been thinking for weeks/months about converting Care2x into an EMR > directed at clinics and medical centres doing longterm studies on > HIV/AIDS patient. > Last month a major report was released by Rhino.org.. [ > *http://tinyurl.com/5kfaz* ] > Main conclusions about Care2x to support ART > > Advantages: > It runs on a modern web thin client web server platform and is all open > source software. > It will run on any hardware platform. It is scalable and can run large > enterprises. Open source will let you maintain and modify the software > to meet your needs. > > Disadvantages: > This is a large software package with many functions that may not be > necessary in smaller hospitals and may interfere with effective training > and use. > Although this software can be used for outpatient EMR, it is not > designed for that use. The extra features have the potential to cause > confusion when they are not used. > This software will require modification to support ART. > > > The main issue is that Care2x is development to process almost all > information in a large scale clinic, while for ART the most important > things are > 1. Only Out Patients. > 2. Main users are a)Administration[check-in], b)(Social)Nurses, > c)Doctors, d)Bio-statisticians > > Will the Care2x PM solve these issues? > What is the current status of this 'branch'? Where are we now on the > timescale of http://www.care2x.org/img/timetable-pm1k.png > Who are the main developers for this 'branch'? > > Is any-one interested in helping me to create the ART module? > > > For your information: There were Some other Care2002 discussions > involving the use of Care2x in AIDS -related situations > [ *http://tinyurl.com/6v7l3 , **http://tinyurl.com/5atcc** ]. > > * > Greetings > Roel De Meester > MD, Information Officer ELCT Health Department --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5047&alloc_id=10808&op=click ___ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
RE: [Care2002-developers] AIDS ARV ART with Care2x
Hi There is a huge need for ARV HIS in South Africa and probably in many other places in the world. Our area is about to pilot a commercial program (web-based, Oracle, Java). Care2x has all the building blocks required for ARV - what is required is a specific front end GUI. There would also need to be some specific tables added (WHO classification, etc). IMHO Care2x is too flexible (if that can be possible) for the average user, especially for something like ARV therapy. > Is any-one interested in helping me to create the ART module? I could help with some design and UI issues, but don't have time or skill to help with coding. Mark Painter East London, South Africa --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5047&alloc_id=10808&op=click ___ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
RE: [Care2002-developers] AIDS ARV ART with Care2x
Hi Mark, I would like to join you in the development of this ARV module. If you can send me the specifications then i can work it out. Regards, Kajal Patel Mumbai, IndiaMark Painter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: HiThere is a huge need for ARV HIS in South Africa and probably in many otherplaces in the world. Our area is about to pilot a commercial program(web-based, Oracle, Java).Care2x has all the building blocks required for ARV - what is required is aspecific front end GUI. There would also need to be some specific tablesadded (WHO classification, etc).IMHO Care2x is too flexible (if that can be possible) for the average user,especially for something like ARV therapy.> Is any-one interested in helping me to create the ART module?I could help with some design and UI issues, but don't have time or skill tohelp with coding.Mark PainterEast London, South Africa---This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic WorkshopFREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools!Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5047&alloc_id=10808&op=click___Care2002-developers mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now.
Re: [Care2002-developers] AIDS ARV ART with Care2x
I follow you , for doing research you should always collect as much data as possible and never throw away 'trivial' data in advance. But in case of HIV Therapy followup, the 10 institutes/centres that i know (and for which i would like to develop an ARV module) do not hospitalize the HIV infected people. The aim of the institutes is to follow up the patients, give them appropriate therapy and keep them from getting AIDS. Besides that they do clinical studies, collect data, do research etc... Mind.. I'm not a doctor. I'm a humble software developer who happens to know some people in these institutes and i helped them to setup a simple database from which they can query some data. I'd like to help them out by merging there current way of working into Care2x to take benefits from both. matthew wrote: >Roel > >Remember this if you get too focused you will loose capibilities you >will need a future period of time. Especially when you start tracking >true stastices related to patient care. > >For instance it may seem superfical to track patient beds, equipment, >but when you have to start looking for the cause of a VRE or MRSA out >break in your aids patients you will ned this data because this >equipment can become the means of spreading the desease from patient to >patient. > >You should collect the data and trim how you present the data to the end >user, but you should always collect the data inorder to leave your >research options open. > >Matt >Roel De Meester wrote: > > > >>I've been thinking for weeks/months about converting Care2x into an EMR >>directed at clinics and medical centres doing longterm studies on >>HIV/AIDS patient. >>Last month a major report was released by Rhino.org.. [ >>*http://tinyurl.com/5kfaz* ] >>Main conclusions about Care2x to support ART >> >>Advantages: >>It runs on a modern web thin client web server platform and is all open >>source software. >>It will run on any hardware platform. It is scalable and can run large >>enterprises. Open source will let you maintain and modify the software >>to meet your needs. >> >>Disadvantages: >>This is a large software package with many functions that may not be >>necessary in smaller hospitals and may interfere with effective training >>and use. >>Although this software can be used for outpatient EMR, it is not >>designed for that use. The extra features have the potential to cause >>confusion when they are not used. >>This software will require modification to support ART. >> >> >>The main issue is that Care2x is development to process almost all >>information in a large scale clinic, while for ART the most important >>things are >>1. Only Out Patients. >>2. Main users are a)Administration[check-in], b)(Social)Nurses, >>c)Doctors, d)Bio-statisticians >> >>Will the Care2x PM solve these issues? >>What is the current status of this 'branch'? Where are we now on the >>timescale of http://www.care2x.org/img/timetable-pm1k.png >>Who are the main developers for this 'branch'? >> >>Is any-one interested in helping me to create the ART module? >> >> >>For your information: There were Some other Care2002 discussions >>involving the use of Care2x in AIDS -related situations >>[ *http://tinyurl.com/6v7l3 , **http://tinyurl.com/5atcc** ]. >> >>* >>Greetings >>Roel De Meester >> >> >> >> > > > begin:vcard fn:Roel De Meester n:De Meester;Roel org:develOOp bvba;Software Development adr:;;Lamorinierestraat 86;Antwerpen;Antwerpen;2018;Belgium email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:CEO tel;work:+32(0)498 41 66 99 tel;cell:+32(0)498 41 66 99 version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [Care2002-developers] AIDS ARV ART with Care2x
Mauri Niemi wrote: Hello, We have also a big HIV/AIDS program and they need a program for it. We are now working on other features but with the co-operation of others we would like to use Care2x also for that program. When we are developing Care2x we are making a single computer system for small clinics and I do not see it a problem. At the same time we are doing it to fit for bigger hospitals. Have you already developed something for the AIDS program in Care2x? What are the most important features you are lacking in care2x for doing the HIV/AIDS program with it? On administrative lever it is possible to hide so much unnecessary information that we hope to use the same for both. That is true. So that rules out the first Disadvantage quoted below. I was also not planning to remove those modules/functionalitities from care2x, i was planning to disable them upon installation. Mauri Niemi On 1 Sep 2004 at 10:58, Roel De Meester wrote: I've been thinking for weeks/months about converting Care2x into an EMR directed at clinics and medical centres doing longterm studies on HIV/AIDS patient. Last month a major report was released by Rhino.org.. [ *http://tinyurl.com/5kfaz* ] Main conclusions about Care2x to support ART Advantages: It runs on a modern web thin client web server platform and is all open source software. It will run on any hardware platform. It is scalable and can run large enterprises. Open source will let you maintain and modify the software to meet your needs. Disadvantages: This is a large software package with many functions that may not be necessary in smaller hospitals and may interfere with effective training and use. Although this software can be used for outpatient EMR, it is not designed for that use. The extra features have the potential to cause confusion when they are not used. This software will require modification to support ART. The main issue is that Care2x is development to process almost all information in a large scale clinic, while for ART the most important things are 1. Only Out Patients. 2. Main users are a)Administration[check-in], b)(Social)Nurses, c)Doctors, d)Bio-statisticians Will the Care2x PM solve these issues? What is the current status of this 'branch'? Where are we now on the timescale of http://www.care2x.org/img/timetable-pm1k.png Who are the main developers for this 'branch'? Is any-one interested in helping me to create the ART module? For your information: There were Some other Care2002 discussions involving the use of Care2x in AIDS -related situations [ *http://tinyurl.com/6v7l3 , **http://tinyurl.com/5atcc** ]. * Greetings Roel De Meester MD, Information Officer ELCT Health Department --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5047&alloc_id=10808&op=click ___ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers begin:vcard fn:Roel De Meester n:De Meester;Roel org:develOOp bvba;Software Development adr:;;Lamorinierestraat 86;Antwerpen;Antwerpen;2018;Belgium email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:CEO tel;work:+32(0)498 41 66 99 tel;cell:+32(0)498 41 66 99 version:2.1 end:vcard
RE: [Care2002-developers] AIDS ARV ART with Care2x
Hi Kajal, Sounds good, we will need all the help I will try to make a first design of the functionalities of the module, I hope that Mark can help to review it to result in a good design document. Implementation can start when the design fase is finished. (maybe end of september?) greetz On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 01:11:28 -0700 (PDT), "Kajal Patel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Hi Mark, > > I would like to join you in the development of this ARV module. If > you can send me the specifications then i can work it out. > > Regards, > Kajal Patel > Mumbai, India > > Mark Painter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi > > There is a huge need for ARV HIS in South Africa and probably in many > other > places in the world. Our area is about to pilot a commercial program > (web-based, Oracle, Java). > > Care2x has all the building blocks required for ARV - what is required is > a > specific front end GUI. There would also need to be some specific tables > added (WHO classification, etc). > > IMHO Care2x is too flexible (if that can be possible) for the average > user, > especially for something like ARV therapy. > > > Is any-one interested in helping me to create the ART module? > > I could help with some design and UI issues, but don't have time or skill > to > help with coding. > > Mark Painter > East London, South Africa > > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop > FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! > Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5047&alloc_id=10808&op=click > ___ > Care2002-developers mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers > > > - > Do you Yahoo!? > Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. -- Somethingswrongwithmyspacebar Roel De Meester [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5047&alloc_id=10808&op=click ___ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] AIDS ARV ART with Care2x
Roel De Meester wrote: I follow you , for doing research you should always collect as much data as possible and never throw away 'trivial' data in advance. But in case of HIV Therapy followup, the 10 institutes/centres that i know (and for which i would like to develop an ARV module) do not hospitalize the HIV infected people. The aim of the institutes is to follow up the patients, give them appropriate therapy and keep them from getting AIDS. Besides that they do clinical studies, collect data, do research etc... Mind.. I'm not a doctor. I'm a humble software developer who happens to know some people in these institutes and i helped them to setup a simple database from which they can query some data. I'd like to help them out by merging there current way of working into Care2x to take benefits from both. matthew wrote: Roel Remember this if you get too focused you will loose capibilities you will need a future period of time. Especially when you start tracking true stastices related to patient care. For instance it may seem superfical to track patient beds, equipment, but when you have to start looking for the cause of a VRE or MRSA out break in your aids patients you will ned this data because this equipment can become the means of spreading the desease from patient to patient. You should collect the data and trim how you present the data to the end user, but you should always collect the data inorder to leave your research options open. Matt Roel De Meester wrote: I've been thinking for weeks/months about converting Care2x into an EMR directed at clinics and medical centres doing longterm studies on HIV/AIDS patient. Last month a major report was released by Rhino.org.. [ *http://tinyurl.com/5kfaz* ] Main conclusions about Care2x to support ART Advantages: It runs on a modern web thin client web server platform and is all open source software. It will run on any hardware platform. It is scalable and can run large enterprises. Open source will let you maintain and modify the software to meet your needs. Disadvantages: This is a large software package with many functions that may not be necessary in smaller hospitals and may interfere with effective training and use. Although this software can be used for outpatient EMR, it is not designed for that use. The extra features have the potential to cause confusion when they are not used. This software will require modification to support ART. The main issue is that Care2x is development to process almost all information in a large scale clinic, while for ART the most important things are 1. Only Out Patients. 2. Main users are a)Administration[check-in], b)(Social)Nurses, c)Doctors, d)Bio-statisticians Will the Care2x PM solve these issues? What is the current status of this 'branch'? Where are we now on the timescale of http://www.care2x.org/img/timetable-pm1k.png Who are the main developers for this 'branch'? Is any-one interested in helping me to create the ART module? For your information: There were Some other Care2002 discussions involving the use of Care2x in AIDS -related situations [ *http://tinyurl.com/6v7l3 , **http://tinyurl.com/5atcc** ]. * Greetings Roel De Meester Roel in about 2 weeks we will be making available a new nursing admission chart form. I think you will find it useful. Let me know if you want me to send you some sample screen shots. Matt begin:vcard fn:Matthew Lottinger n:Lottinger;Matthew adr;dom:;;1001 S. Broad ;New Orleans;LA;70125 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:President tel;work:504-827-3624 version:2.1 end:vcard
RE: [Care2002-developers] AIDS ARV ART with Care2x
Hi Mark I have Recently customized Care2x for Delhi Based Hospital,India I will be there to help you out as for as code is concerned let me know other development firms who need the proffesionals who have worked on care2x. Those who need payed programmers. Sumeet Sawhney IBM-db2 Certified Professional --- Kajal Patel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Mark, > > I would like to join you in the development of > this ARV module. If you can send me the > specifications then i can work it out. > > Regards, > Kajal Patel > Mumbai, India > > Mark Painter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi > > There is a huge need for ARV HIS in South Africa and > probably in many other > places in the world. Our area is about to pilot a > commercial program > (web-based, Oracle, Java). > > Care2x has all the building blocks required for ARV > - what is required is a > specific front end GUI. There would also need to be > some specific tables > added (WHO classification, etc). > > IMHO Care2x is too flexible (if that can be > possible) for the average user, > especially for something like ARV therapy. > > > Is any-one interested in helping me to create the > ART module? > > I could help with some design and UI issues, but > don't have time or skill to > help with coding. > > Mark Painter > East London, South Africa > > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic > Workshop > FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! > Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 > today. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5047&alloc_id=10808&op=click > ___ > Care2002-developers mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers > > > - > Do you Yahoo!? > Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5047&alloc_id=10808&op=click ___ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] AIDS ARV ART with Care2x
On 2 Sep 2004 at 9:46, Roel De Meester wrote: > Have you already developed something for the AIDS program in Care2x? What > are the most important features you are lacking in care2x for doing the > HIV/AIDS program with it? I have not been involved in the AIDS program. They had their own program which is not very userfriendly and I do not like the idea that several programs will be installed in our system which will only confuse the users. But I am waiting for response from the responsible ones about requirements. Mauri Niemi MD, Information Officer ELCT Health Department --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5047&alloc_id=10808&op=click ___ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
