Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] 3rd Day in raw :( SRST-unity integration problem , even CTI solution doesn't work,

2009-01-14 Thread jeremy co
Hi Vic,

I really appreciate that u giving your time.

I really badly stuck in this, and cannot find a solution yet.

I use ccm 4.1(3)sr3c and 12.4 (5b)


today's morning Ryan remote desktop to my laptop and configure translation
pattern (3rd option to do SRST/unity)  but surprisingly same result , 8 damn
digit passed to unity (if I put this 8 digits in alternate number it would
work) .


I checked what u said twice no extra dial pattern , and VM profile is not
working for both CTI and TP .so with 3 different solution I ran into same
problem



:(  Me and Ryan suspect CCm version so we upgrade it with sr3c patch but
same result.


Hope somebody can suggest sth.

Jeremy
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com wrote:


 Do you have any # configured on your CCM with Ext 2229 other than the hunt
 pilot? Check in Route Plan Report.

 You haven't configured the CTI solution properly. If your CTI RP was 2888
 the VM Mask is  then Unity should see a Forwarding # of 2888. Check that
 out again- this CTI RP solution is a winner. Its very puzzling these damned
 8 digits.

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 *From: *jeremy co jeremy.coo...@gmail.com
 *Date: *Wed, 14 Jan 2009 05:12:19 +1100
 *To: *ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 *Cc: *Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com
 *Subject: *3rd Day in raw :( SRST-unity integration problem , even CTI
 solution doesn't work,


 Hi,

 I tried both DRNIS and CTI solution. None of them worked .in both ,8 digits
 passed to unity, I donnow why!!!


 ** RDNIS scenario :


 unity--HQ ---pstn-BR1 (SRST)
 2001  3001


 2001 call 3001 and CFNA redirect call to unity via pstn , redirecting
 number works fine but only 8 digits passed to unity

 Here is the out put of debug isdn on HQ when call forwarded to unity.

 HQ :499-202-2
 BR1 :899-303-3XXX
 voice pilot number : 2229

 Mar 11 20:01:40.060: ISDN Se0/0:23 Q931: RX - SETUP pd = 8  callref =
 0x008E
 Bearer Capability i = 0x8090A2
 Standard = CCITT
 Transfer Capability = Speech
 Transfer Mode = Circuit
 Transfer Rate = 64 kbit/s
 Channel ID i = 0xA98381
 Exclusive, Channel 1
 Calling Party Number i = 0x2181, '4992022002'
 Plan:ISDN, Type:National
 Called Party Number i = 0xA1, '499209'
 Plan:ISDN, Type:National
 Redirecting Number i = 0xFF, '8993033001'
 Plan:Reserved, Type:Reserved

 I can see from call viewer in unity :

 dialed numbercalling number forwarding
   93033001  4992022002   93033001



 CTI scenraio :


 I made 2888 CTI with forward to voice mail option checked,and assign Voice
 mail profile with mask of  to it. Then Configured SRST to forward all
 calls to 2888 DN. what I see in unity is again


 dialed numbercalling number forwarding
   93033001  4992022002   93033001


 I have no idea why 8 digits just passed to unity



 I waste lots of time to make SRST to work, but no success any help would be
 much appreciated.



 Jeremy






Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] QOS Marking

2009-01-14 Thread o Ninja

Hi Hany,
There is a good vLecture regarding to Campus QoS on IPexpert website.
Even so, your specific question is not clear for me also.
 
My best guess is that you just have to configure voice and vlan in the 
interfaces, and let the qos being disable.
 
Could be good if someone could clarify it a little more.
Hany Hanna hhanna1000 at gmail.com Fri Jan 9 23:17:28 EST 2009 


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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue

2009-01-14 Thread Alex
Kamal,
According to task wording below: Between Site A and Site B only g729 allowed 
and Site B will receive multicast MOH from router flash, no multicast traffic 
allowed between Ste A and SiteB
 - I take it as MOH from Site B router flash for Site B IP phones can actually 
use g711 and wouldn't bother enabling g729 for MOH. This requires placing MOH 
servers in G.711-only region/DP as per 
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/voicesw/ps556/products_configuration_example09186a00803f8950.shtml
 which I haven't mentioned in my previous email. 
Rgds
Alex

- Original Message - 
  From: kamal yousaf 
  To: Christian Hennrich 
  Cc: Alex ; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ; Kumar, Narinder 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 5:13 AM
  Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue


  Alex,

   Regarding your comment, If MOH server uses 239.1.1.3 to stream G729 to 
remote phones, shouldn't we enable G.729 for MOH ? Only exception is using 
transcoder but since it can't be used for multicast,don't  we have to enable 
G.729 ?


Alex schrieb:

  Your mcast group IP@ in below debug is 239.1.1.3
  The same group IP@ should be configured on SiteB router.
  No need to enable G.729 for MoH - if you ticked increment on IP address 
that's probably why the group IP@ got changed.
  Rgds
  Alex   

 *From:* Kumar, Narinder mailto:narinder.ku...@uxcg.com.au
 *To:* ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 mailto:ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com

 *Sent:* Tuesday, January 13, 2009 12:36 PM
 *Subject:* [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue

 Quick Que  on MOH   
  
 CCM running multicast MOH.

  
 Between Site A and Site B only g729 allowed

  
 SiteA will receive multicast MOH .

 Site B will receive multicast MOH from router flash, no multicast
 traffic allowed between Ste A and SiteB.

  
 The way I do this question is

  
 Configure the MOH source file and tick multicast and play continuously

 Enable multicast on the MRG and MOH server

 Change the ip voice media service parameter to allow both g711 and g729

  
 Site A works without any issue

  
 Site B Configuration:

  
 Call-manager-fallback

 Moh filename ( Moh file in flash)

 multicast moh 239.1.1.1 port 16384 route x.x.x.x

  
 MOH from site B doesn't work , what am I missing here ?

  
 ***

 debug ccm-manager music-on-hold all

 **

 an 13 13:13:30.023: moh_update_rtp: callID 17 dstCallID 18

 *Jan 13 13:13:30.023: moh_process_ccb: dstadr 0.0.0.0, callid 18,
 port 0,

 codec 65535, moh_en 0, moh_addr 0.0.0.0

 *Jan 13 13:13:30.023: moh_update_rtp: callID 17 dstCallID 18

 *Jan 13 13:13:30.079: moh_process_ccb: dstadr 142.102.65.6, callid
 18, port 23552,

 codec 5, moh_en 0, moh_addr 0.0.0.0

 *Jan 13 13:13:30.079: moh_update_rtp: callID 17 dstCallID 18

 *Jan 13 13:13:31.391: %ISDN-6-CONNECT: Interface Serial0/1/0:2 is
 now connected to 911 N/A

 *Jan 13 13:13:31.395: moh_update_rtp: callID 17 dstCallID 18

 *Jan 13 13:13:31.395: moh_process_ccb: dstadr 142.102.65.6, callid
 18, port 23552,

 codec 5, moh_en 0, moh_addr 0.0.0.0

 *Jan 13 13:13:31.399: moh_update_rtp: callID 17 dstCallID 18

 *Jan 13 13:13:33.103: moh_update_rtp: callID 17 dstCallID 18

 *Jan 13 13:13:33.103: moh_update_rtp: callID 17 dstCallID 18

 *Jan 13 13:13:33.103: moh_update_rtp: callID 17 dstCallID 18

 *Jan 13 13:13:33.119: moh_update_rtp: callID 17 dstCallID 18

 *Jan 13 13:13:33.139: moh_process_ccb: dstadr 239.1.1.3, callid 18,
 port 16384,

 codec 16, moh_en 0, moh_addr 0.0.0.0

 *Jan 13 13:13:33.139: moh_process_ccb:multicast addr add_ccb

 *Jan 13 13:13:33.139: moh_add_ccb: ip addr 239.1.1.3 port 16384
 callid 18

 *Jan 13 13:13:33.139: moh_add_ccb: vmccb does not exists - creating a

 new one for 239.1.1.3 through IGMP

 *Jan 13 13:13:33.139:  moh_join_group_command called for 239.1.1.3

 *Jan 13 13:13:33.139: moh_join_group_command: Looking at valid idb's
 to configure 239.1.1.3

 *Jan 13 13:13:33.139: moh_join_group_command: IGMP API on group
 239.1.1.3 idb Se0/0/0.201

 *Jan 13 13:13:33.139: moh_join_group_command: IGMP API on group
 239.1.1.3 idb Vl102

 *Jan 13 13:13:33.139: moh_create_session: called

 *Jan 13 13:13:33.139:  moh_create_session : dstadr 239.1.1.3 does
 not exist - creating acontrol block

 *Jan 

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue

2009-01-14 Thread Alex
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH IssueVik,
AFAIK if G.729 is enabled in IPVMSA and MOH server is in HQ DP (which allows 
only G.729 to Site B) then the following happens:
- CCM instructs Site B phones to join mcast group 239.1.1.3 which is G.729 MOH
-Site B router streams only G.711 MOH from flash to 239.1.1.1 
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/iosswrel/ps5207/products_feature_guide09186a00802d1c31.html#wp1043334
Expected result: no MOH on Site B phones
If G.729 is not enabled for IPVMSA and MOH server is in HQ DP (which allows 
only G.729 to Site B), then:
- CCM cannot find a suitable mcast group for Site B phones to join 
Expected result: no MOH on Site B phones
If G.729 is not enabled for IPVMSA and MOH server is in G.711-only DP (which 
allows G.711 to Site B), then:
- CCM instructs Site B phones to join mcast group 239.1.1.1 which is G.711 ulaw 
MOH
-Site B router streams only G.711 MOH from flash to 239.1.1.1 
Expected result: MOH plays on Site B phones
Do I miss something here?
Rgds
Alex
  - Original Message - 
  From: Vik Malhi 
  To: kamal yousaf ; Christian Hennrich 
  Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ; Kumar,Narinder 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 6:39 AM
  Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue


  239.1.1.1 port 16384 is always reserved for g711u for Audio Source 1, 
239.1.1.2 for g711alaw, 239.1.1.3 for g729 and 239.1.1.4 for Wideband.

  Since the BR1 DP is communicating with the MOH server using g729 (or should I 
say CCM thinks g729 is the negotiated codec whereas in realty we are spoofing 
from the remote site router) CallManager will increment on port # or ip address.

  In your case MOH---BR1 DP uses g729 and you increment on ip address. You 
should have G729 allowed in IP Voice Media Streaming App for this to work. 
Everything on CallManager should be configured as normal- without enabling g729 
will cause the MOH sourced from the flash to fail.

  You need the commands as shown below.

  Call-manager-fallback
  Moh filename ( Moh file in flash
  no  multicast moh 239.1.1.1 port 16384 route x.x.x.x
  multicast moh 239.1.1.3 port 16384 route x.x.x.x


  Note - you cannot change multicast ip addresses on the fly and so you must 
delete the first command (incorrect multicast cmd).

  -- 
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  Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

  Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 
  Fax: +1.810.454.0130 
  Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com


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--
  From: kamal yousaf lovingprin...@gmail.com
  Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:13:35 +1100
  To: Christian Hennrich christian.hennr...@intact-is.com
  Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com, Kumar, Narinder 
narinder.ku...@uxcg.com.au
  Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue

  Alex,

   Regarding your comment, If MOH server uses 239.1.1.3 to stream G729 to 
remote phones, shouldn't we enable G.729 for MOH ? Only exception is using 
transcoder but since it can't be used for multicast,don't  we have to enable 
G.729 ?


Alex schrieb:

  Your mcast group IP@ in below debug is 239.1.1.3
  The same group IP@ should be configured on SiteB router.
  No need to enable G.729 for MoH - if you ticked increment on IP address 
that's probably why the group IP@ got changed.
  Rgds
  Alex   
  *From:* Kumar, Narinder mailto:narinder.ku...@uxcg.com.au
  *To:* ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
  mailto:ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com

  *Sent:* Tuesday, January 13, 2009 12:36 PM
  *Subject:* [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue

  Quick Que  on MOH   
   
  CCM running multicast MOH.

   
  Between Site A and Site B only g729 allowed

   
  SiteA will receive multicast MOH .

  Site B will receive multicast MOH from router flash, no multicast
  traffic allowed between Ste A and SiteB.

   
  The way I do this question is

   
  Configure the MOH source file and tick multicast and play continuously

  Enable multicast on the MRG and MOH server

  Change the ip voice media service parameter to allow both g711 and 
g729

   
  Site A works without any issue

   
  Site B Configuration:

   
  Call-manager-fallback

  Moh filename ( Moh file in flash)

  multicast moh 239.1.1.1 port 16384 route x.x.x.x

   
  MOH from site B doesn't work , what am I missing here ?

   
  ***

  debug ccm-manager music-on-hold all

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Multicast MOH

2009-01-14 Thread Ryan Trauernicht
can someone explain what you mean there?
thanks,
Ryan Trauernicht

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:39 AM, kamal yousaf lovingprin...@gmail.comwrote:

 I always forget g711 includes any thing g711 and below. How stupid i am.

 Thanks alot Vik .


 On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com wrote:

  Firstly you cannot transcode a multicast stream so you are correct
 there.

 By placing the MOH server in a g711 Device Pool you are allowing all
 codecs that take up less bandwidth than g711 too. So that includes g729.

 So providing you change the IP Voice Media Streaming service params to
 allow G729 the MOH stream is being sent to the BR1 natively using g729.
 --
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 --
 *From: *kamal yousaf lovingprin...@gmail.com
 *Date: *Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:05:05 +1100
 *To: *ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 *Subject: *[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Multicast MOH

 Hi ,

  I have MOH Sub and Pub configured to support Multicast for Br1 phones and
 Unicast for HQ phones (using MRGL).I placed MOH sub in G711 only device pool
 so that it communicates using G711 only. Now, since BR1phones/BR1 MGCP gw
 are in a device pool which communicates G729 to other device pools, how
 would my Multicast MOH get streamed to BR1 phones ? Multicast MOH server is
 using G711 , BR1 phone is using G729 and since there can be no transcoder
 invoked for Multicast MOH , how will this work ?

 Please help !





Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Chris Parker

Vik,

I think we are on to something. Here is what I get with the ras debug 
turned on:


BR2#debug ras
H.323 RAS Messages debugging is on
BR2#h323chan_dgram_send:Sent UDP msg. Bytes sent: 83 to 
172.16.101.1:1719 fd=2


.Jan 14 15:28:55.172 CET: RASLib::GW_RASSendRRQ: RRQ (seq# 3729) sent to 
172.16.101.1

.Jan 14 15:28:55.180 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket
.Jan 14 15:28:55.180 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket: fd=2 of type 
CONNECTED has data
.Jan 14 15:28:55.180 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket: h323chan 
accepted/connected fd=2


.Jan 14 15:28:55.180 CET: h323chan_dgram_recvdata:rcvd from 
[172.16.101.1:1719] on fd=2


.Jan 14 15:28:55.180 CET: RCF (seq# 3729) rcvd
.Jan 14 15:28:56.404 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket
.Jan 14 15:28:56.404 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket: fd=3 of type 
CONNECT_PENDING has data

.Jan 14 15:28:56.404 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket
.Jan 14 15:28:56.404 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket: fd=0 of type 
LISTENING has data

.Jan 14 15:28:56.404 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket
.Jan 14 15:28:56.404 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket: fd=3 of type 
CONNECTED has data
.Jan 14 15:28:56.404 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket: h323chan 
accepted/connected fd=3


.Jan 14 15:28:56.408 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket
.Jan 14 15:28:56.408 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket: fd=4 of type 
ACCEPTED has data
.Jan 14 15:28:56.408 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket: h323chan 
accepted/connected fd=4

h323chan_dgram_send:Sent UDP msg. Bytes sent: 119 to 172.16.101.1:1719 fd=2

.Jan 14 15:28:56.412 CET: RASLib::GW_RASSendARQ: ARQ (seq# 3730) sent to 
172.16.101.1

.Jan 14 15:28:56.420 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket
.Jan 14 15:28:56.420 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket: fd=2 of type 
CONNECTED has data
.Jan 14 15:28:56.420 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket: h323chan 
accepted/connected fd=2


.Jan 14 15:28:56.420 CET: h323chan_dgram_recvdata:rcvd from 
[172.16.101.1:1719] on fd=2


.Jan 14 15:28:56.420 CET: ARJ (seq# 3730) rcvdparse_arj_nonstd: ARJ 
Nonstd decode succeeded, remlen = 1

.Jan 14 15:28:56.424 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket
.Jan 14 15:28:56.424 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket: fd=3 of type 
CONNECTED has data
.Jan 14 15:28:56.424 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket: h323chan 
accepted/connected fd=3


.Jan 14 15:28:56.436 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket
.Jan 14 15:28:56.436 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket: fd=4 of type 
ACCEPTED has data
.Jan 14 15:28:56.436 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket: h323chan 
accepted/connected fd=4


.Jan 14 15:28:56.436 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket
.Jan 14 15:28:56.436 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket: fd=4 of type 
ACCEPTED has data
.Jan 14 15:28:56.436 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket: h323chan 
accepted/connected fd=4




Vik Malhi wrote:
Jose is about to bring a very complicated problem with using the 
bandwidth total command inside gatekeeper and how it impacts B-ACD.


Chris- please make the call to the B-ACD AA from a CME phone and paste 
the output of debug ras (assuming the router is registered to a 
gatekeeper).

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*From: *Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) jlin...@cisco.com
*Date: *Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:03:59 -0500
*To: *Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us, ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
*Subject: *Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

Hi Chris:

Is this router registered to a gatekeeper?.

Regards,

Jose


-Original Message-
From: Chris Parker [mailto:cpar...@cparker.us]
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 09:56 PM Eastern Standard Time
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

I have had problems getting BACD to dial using voip from the phones on
CME. I can dial into the BACD fine from the PSTN, but not from my IP
phones. Here is my config:

voice service voip
allow-connections h323 to h323

dial-peer voice 3500 pots
service aa
incoming called-number 3500
port 0/2/0:23
!
dial-peer voice 3501 voip
destination-pattern 3500
session target ipv4:172.16.101.3
dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
codec g711ulaw
no vad
!
dial-peer voice 3502 voip
service aa
incoming called-number 3500
dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
codec g711ulaw
no vad

Eveytime I call the number I get no circuit

128A : 67 12560ms.53 +-1 +3280 pid:20004 Answer 3004
dur 00:00:00 tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22 (no circuit (34))
Telephony 50/0/4 (67) [50/0/4.0] 

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Chris Parker

Vik,

When I type no gateway and try the call again it goes through. So I 
must be running into this issue. I do have bandwidth total configured on 
my GK as well. It is set to 96. I'm guessing if I bump it up to 128 to 
allow a g711 call it'll work?


Chris

Vik Malhi wrote:
Jose is about to bring a very complicated problem with using the 
bandwidth total command inside gatekeeper and how it impacts B-ACD.


Chris- please make the call to the B-ACD AA from a CME phone and paste 
the output of debug ras (assuming the router is registered to a 
gatekeeper).

--
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Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
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*From: *Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) jlin...@cisco.com
*Date: *Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:03:59 -0500
*To: *Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us, ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
*Subject: *Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

Hi Chris:

Is this router registered to a gatekeeper?.

Regards,

Jose


-Original Message-
From: Chris Parker [mailto:cpar...@cparker.us]
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 09:56 PM Eastern Standard Time
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

I have had problems getting BACD to dial using voip from the phones on
CME. I can dial into the BACD fine from the PSTN, but not from my IP
phones. Here is my config:

voice service voip
allow-connections h323 to h323

dial-peer voice 3500 pots
service aa
incoming called-number 3500
port 0/2/0:23
!
dial-peer voice 3501 voip
destination-pattern 3500
session target ipv4:172.16.101.3
dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
codec g711ulaw
no vad
!
dial-peer voice 3502 voip
service aa
incoming called-number 3500
dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
codec g711ulaw
no vad

Eveytime I call the number I get no circuit

128A : 67 12560ms.53 +-1 +3280 pid:20004 Answer 3004
dur 00:00:00 tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22 (no circuit (34))
Telephony 50/0/4 (67) [50/0/4.0] tx:0/0/0ms None noise:0dBm acom:0dBm
long duration call detected:n long dur callduration :n/a
timestamp:n/a128F : 71 125594800ms.54 +-1 +30 pid:3501 Originate 3500
dur 00:00:00 tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22 (no circuit (34))
IP 0.0.0.0:0 SRTP: off rtt:0ms pl:0/0ms lost:0/0/0 delay:0/0/0ms g729r8
pre-ietf TextRelay: off
media inactive detected:n media contrl rcvd:n/a timestamp:n/a
long duration call detected:n long dur callduration :n/a timestamp:n/a







[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Sub-Pub failover HA Test

2009-01-14 Thread Agh
I do not have two CCM to test this scenario but is there anything to watch
out for when you failover Sub(Primary) to Pub(secondary) and then back to
Sub again?
E.g.your whole configs might just be wiped out or remote site phones not
functioning after you failover back to your Sub [image: [Eek!]] )


Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Ryan Trauernicht
yup.  Gatekeeper looks at g711ulaw as 2 (64k) call legs for a total of 128.
Thanks,
ryan Trauernicht

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us wrote:

 Vik,

 When I type no gateway and try the call again it goes through. So I must
 be running into this issue. I do have bandwidth total configured on my GK as
 well. It is set to 96. I'm guessing if I bump it up to 128 to allow a g711
 call it'll work?

 Chris


 Vik Malhi wrote:

 Jose is about to bring a very complicated problem with using the bandwidth
 total command inside gatekeeper and how it impacts B-ACD.

 Chris- please make the call to the B-ACD AA from a CME phone and paste the
 output of debug ras (assuming the router is registered to a gatekeeper).
 --
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 Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

 Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
 Fax: +1.810.454.0130
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 *From: *Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) jlin...@cisco.com
 *Date: *Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:03:59 -0500
 *To: *Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us, ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 *Subject: *Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

 Hi Chris:

 Is this router registered to a gatekeeper?.

 Regards,

 Jose


 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Parker [mailto:cpar...@cparker.us]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 09:56 PM Eastern Standard Time
 To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

 I have had problems getting BACD to dial using voip from the phones on
 CME. I can dial into the BACD fine from the PSTN, but not from my IP
 phones. Here is my config:

 voice service voip
 allow-connections h323 to h323

 dial-peer voice 3500 pots
 service aa
 incoming called-number 3500
 port 0/2/0:23
 !
 dial-peer voice 3501 voip
 destination-pattern 3500
 session target ipv4:172.16.101.3
 dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
 codec g711ulaw
 no vad
 !
 dial-peer voice 3502 voip
 service aa
 incoming called-number 3500
 dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
 codec g711ulaw
 no vad

 Eveytime I call the number I get no circuit

 128A : 67 12560ms.53 +-1 +3280 pid:20004 Answer 3004
 dur 00:00:00 tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22 (no circuit (34))
 Telephony 50/0/4 (67) [50/0/4.0] tx:0/0/0ms None noise:0dBm acom:0dBm
 long duration call detected:n long dur callduration :n/a
 timestamp:n/a128F : 71 125594800ms.54 +-1 +30 pid:3501 Originate 3500
 dur 00:00:00 tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22 (no circuit (34))
 IP 0.0.0.0:0 SRTP: off rtt:0ms pl:0/0ms lost:0/0/0 delay:0/0/0ms g729r8
 pre-ietf TextRelay: off
 media inactive detected:n media contrl rcvd:n/a timestamp:n/a
 long duration call detected:n long dur callduration :n/a timestamp:n/a







Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue

2009-01-14 Thread Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero)
Hi Alex:
 
When you have enabled G729 in IPVMSA CCM instructs the IP Phones to join a 
specific multicast group, it depends on what you have configured in the MOH 
server, in the case you are talking about, you have configured to increment IP 
Address, then the IP Phones will join the multicast group 239.1.1.3, no matter 
the moh from the flash is G711, the IP Phones will try to join the group, and 
due to the fact you have configured multicast moh with that IP address and the 
specific port with route to the Voice VLAN Ip address and the Loopback IP 
address, the result will be that MOH will be streaming to the IP Phones in site 
B. 
 
Regards,
 
Jose
 
 



From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com 
[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Alex
Sent: Miércoles, Enero 14, 2009 8:59 AM
To: Vik Malhi
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue


Vik,
AFAIK if G.729 is enabled in IPVMSA and MOH server is in HQ DP (which allows 
only G.729 to Site B) then the following happens:
- CCM instructs Site B phones to join mcast group 239.1.1.3 which is G.729 MOH
-Site B router streams only G.711 MOH from flash to 239.1.1.1 
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/iosswrel/ps5207/products_feature_guide09186a00802d1c31.html#wp1043334
Expected result: no MOH on Site B phones
If G.729 is not enabled for IPVMSA and MOH server is in HQ DP (which allows 
only G.729 to Site B), then:
- CCM cannot find a suitable mcast group for Site B phones to join 
Expected result: no MOH on Site B phones
If G.729 is not enabled for IPVMSA and MOH server is in G.711-only DP (which 
allows G.711 to Site B), then:
- CCM instructs Site B phones to join mcast group 239.1.1.1 which is G.711 ulaw 
MOH
-Site B router streams only G.711 MOH from flash to 239.1.1.1 
Expected result: MOH plays on Site B phones
Do I miss something here?
Rgds
Alex

- Original Message - 
From: Vik Malhi mailto:vma...@ipexpert.com  
To: kamal yousaf mailto:lovingprin...@gmail.com  ; Christian Hennrich 
mailto:christian.hennr...@intact-is.com  
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ; Kumar,Narinder 
mailto:narinder.ku...@uxcg.com.au  
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 6:39 AM
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue

239.1.1.1 port 16384 is always reserved for g711u for Audio Source 1, 
239.1.1.2 for g711alaw, 239.1.1.3 for g729 and 239.1.1.4 for Wideband.

Since the BR1 DP is communicating with the MOH server using g729 (or 
should I say CCM thinks g729 is the negotiated codec whereas in realty we are 
spoofing from the remote site router) CallManager will increment on port # or 
ip address.

In your case MOH---BR1 DP uses g729 and you increment on ip address. 
You should have G729 allowed in IP Voice Media Streaming App for this to work. 
Everything on CallManager should be configured as normal- without enabling g729 
will cause the MOH sourced from the flash to fail.

You need the commands as shown below.

Call-manager-fallback
Moh filename ( Moh file in flash
no  multicast moh 239.1.1.1 port 16384 route x.x.x.x
multicast moh 239.1.1.3 port 16384 route x.x.x.x


Note - you cannot change multicast ip addresses on the fly and so you 
must delete the first command (incorrect multicast cmd).

-- 
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Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 
Fax: +1.810.454.0130 
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From: kamal yousaf lovingprin...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:13:35 +1100
To: Christian Hennrich christian.hennr...@intact-is.com
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com, Kumar, Narinder 
narinder.ku...@uxcg.com.au
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue

Alex,

 Regarding your comment, If MOH server uses 239.1.1.3 to stream G729 to 
remote phones, shouldn't we enable G.729 for MOH ? Only exception is using 
transcoder but since it can't be used for multicast,don't  we have to enable 
G.729 ?



Alex schrieb:


Your mcast group IP@ in below debug is 239.1.1.3
The same group IP@ should be configured on SiteB router.
No need 

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero)
Hi Chris:

The problem is that the router that is registered to the GK sends an ARQ to the 
GK, and due to the fact you have configured bandwidth total with a value less 
than 128k the call is rejected. The question is, why, if we are using a dial 
peer with session target a loopback IP address, does it send an ARQ to the GK. 
I was reading a lot trying to find the answer, and it is not a bug, it is the 
normal behaviour, the recommendation for a one zone GK when yor are required to 
do CAC is to configure at least 128k, when you have more than one zone, you 
have to use the interzone command, and generally, when you have a single zone 
there is no CAC requirement.

Maybe Vik have another point of view, but that is what I found when I saw this 
problem first time.

Regards,

Jose

-Original Message-
From: Chris Parker [mailto:cpar...@cparker.us] 
Sent: Miércoles, Enero 14, 2009 9:34 AM
To: Vik Malhi
Cc: Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero); ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

Vik,

When I type no gateway and try the call again it goes through. So I must be 
running into this issue. I do have bandwidth total configured on my GK as well. 
It is set to 96. I'm guessing if I bump it up to 128 to allow a g711 call it'll 
work?

Chris

Vik Malhi wrote:
 Jose is about to bring a very complicated problem with using the 
 bandwidth total command inside gatekeeper and how it impacts B-ACD.

 Chris- please make the call to the B-ACD AA from a CME phone and paste 
 the output of debug ras (assuming the router is registered to a 
 gatekeeper).
 --
 Vik Malhi - CCIE #13890, CCSI #31584
 Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

 Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
 Fax: +1.810.454.0130
 Mailto: _vma...@ipexpert.com

 _
 Join our free online support and peer group communities:
 _http://www.IPexpert.com/communities
 _IPexpert - The Global Leader in Self-Study, Classroom-Based, 
 Video-On-Demand and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco 
 CCIE RS Lab, CCIE Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE 
 Voice Lab and CCIE Storage Lab Certifications.







 --
 --
 *From: *Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) jlin...@cisco.com
 *Date: *Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:03:59 -0500
 *To: *Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us, 
 ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 *Subject: *Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

 Hi Chris:

 Is this router registered to a gatekeeper?.

 Regards,

 Jose


 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Parker [mailto:cpar...@cparker.us]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 09:56 PM Eastern Standard Time
 To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

 I have had problems getting BACD to dial using voip from the phones on 
 CME. I can dial into the BACD fine from the PSTN, but not from my IP 
 phones. Here is my config:

 voice service voip
 allow-connections h323 to h323

 dial-peer voice 3500 pots
 service aa
 incoming called-number 3500
 port 0/2/0:23
 !
 dial-peer voice 3501 voip
 destination-pattern 3500
 session target ipv4:172.16.101.3
 dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
 codec g711ulaw
 no vad
 !
 dial-peer voice 3502 voip
 service aa
 incoming called-number 3500
 dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
 codec g711ulaw
 no vad

 Eveytime I call the number I get no circuit

 128A : 67 12560ms.53 +-1 +3280 pid:20004 Answer 3004 dur 00:00:00 
 tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22 (no circuit (34)) Telephony 50/0/4 (67) [50/0/4.0] 
 tx:0/0/0ms None noise:0dBm acom:0dBm long duration call detected:n 
 long dur callduration :n/a timestamp:n/a128F : 71 125594800ms.54 +-1 
 +30 pid:3501 Originate 3500 dur 00:00:00 tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22 (no circuit 
 (34)) IP 0.0.0.0:0 SRTP: off rtt:0ms pl:0/0ms lost:0/0/0 delay:0/0/0ms 
 g729r8 pre-ietf TextRelay: off media inactive detected:n media contrl 
 rcvd:n/a timestamp:n/a long duration call detected:n long dur 
 callduration :n/a timestamp:n/a






Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue

2009-01-14 Thread Alex
239.1.1.3 configured as base IP for MOH server, multicast moh 239.1.1.3 on 
SRST router and no G.729 for IPVMSA is what I was talking about.
Rgds
Alex
  - Original Message - 
  From: kamal yousaf 
  To: Alex 
  Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 3:10 PM
  Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue


  That means you will use 239.1.1.1 as Multicast IP on your SRST router and NOT 
239.1.1.3 as your previous email suggests.

  Pls Correct me if i am wrong !


  On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 12:44 AM, Alex alex.arsen...@gmail.com wrote:

Kamal,
According to task wording below: Between Site A and Site B only g729 
allowed and Site B will receive multicast MOH from router flash, no multicast 
traffic allowed between Ste A and SiteB
 - I take it as MOH from Site B router flash for Site B IP phones can 
actually use g711 and wouldn't bother enabling g729 for MOH. This requires 
placing MOH servers in G.711-only region/DP as per 
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/voicesw/ps556/products_configuration_example09186a00803f8950.shtml
 which I haven't mentioned in my previous email. 
Rgds
Alex

- Original Message - 
  From: kamal yousaf 
  To: Christian Hennrich 
  Cc: Alex ; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ; Kumar, Narinder 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 5:13 AM
  Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue


  Alex,

   Regarding your comment, If MOH server uses 239.1.1.3 to stream G729 to 
remote phones, shouldn't we enable G.729 for MOH ? Only exception is using 
transcoder but since it can't be used for multicast,don't  we have to enable 
G.729 ?


Alex schrieb:

  Your mcast group IP@ in below debug is 239.1.1.3
  The same group IP@ should be configured on SiteB router.
  No need to enable G.729 for MoH - if you ticked increment on IP 
address that's probably why the group IP@ got changed.
  Rgds
  Alex   

 *From:* Kumar, Narinder mailto:narinder.ku...@uxcg.com.au
 *To:* ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 mailto:ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com 

 *Sent:* Tuesday, January 13, 2009 12:36 PM
 *Subject:* [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue

 Quick Que  on MOH   
  
 CCM running multicast MOH.

  
 Between Site A and Site B only g729 allowed

  
 SiteA will receive multicast MOH .

 Site B will receive multicast MOH from router flash, no multicast
 traffic allowed between Ste A and SiteB.

  
 The way I do this question is

  
 Configure the MOH source file and tick multicast and play 
continuously

 Enable multicast on the MRG and MOH server

 Change the ip voice media service parameter to allow both g711 and 
g729

  
 Site A works without any issue

  
 Site B Configuration:

  
 Call-manager-fallback

 Moh filename ( Moh file in flash)

 multicast moh 239.1.1.1 port 16384 route x.x.x.x

  
 MOH from site B doesn't work , what am I missing here ?

  
 ***

 debug ccm-manager music-on-hold all

 **

 an 13 13:13:30.023: moh_update_rtp: callID 17 dstCallID 18

 *Jan 13 13:13:30.023: moh_process_ccb: dstadr 0.0.0.0, callid 18,
 port 0,

 codec 65535, moh_en 0, moh_addr 0.0.0.0

 *Jan 13 13:13:30.023: moh_update_rtp: callID 17 dstCallID 18

 *Jan 13 13:13:30.079: moh_process_ccb: dstadr 142.102.65.6, callid
 18, port 23552,

 codec 5, moh_en 0, moh_addr 0.0.0.0

 *Jan 13 13:13:30.079: moh_update_rtp: callID 17 dstCallID 18

 *Jan 13 13:13:31.391: %ISDN-6-CONNECT: Interface Serial0/1/0:2 is
 now connected to 911 N/A

 *Jan 13 13:13:31.395: moh_update_rtp: callID 17 dstCallID 18

 *Jan 13 13:13:31.395: moh_process_ccb: dstadr 142.102.65.6, callid
 18, port 23552,

 codec 5, moh_en 0, moh_addr 0.0.0.0

 *Jan 13 13:13:31.399: moh_update_rtp: callID 17 dstCallID 18

 *Jan 13 13:13:33.103: moh_update_rtp: callID 17 dstCallID 18

 *Jan 13 13:13:33.103: moh_update_rtp: callID 17 dstCallID 18

 *Jan 13 13:13:33.103: moh_update_rtp: callID 17 dstCallID 18

 *Jan 13 13:13:33.119: moh_update_rtp: callID 17 dstCallID 18

 *Jan 13 13:13:33.139: moh_process_ccb: dstadr 239.1.1.3, callid 18,
 port 16384,

 codec 16, moh_en 0, moh_addr 0.0.0.0

 *Jan 13 13:13:33.139: 

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero)
Hi Cyrus:
 
I could not find any other solution, is the way it works, when is one zone and 
you have an specific CAC requirement, I would suggest to use the interzone 
command, however for one zone it does nothing.
 
Regards,
 
Jose



From: Cyrus [mailto:cyrus@gmail.com] 
Sent: Miércoles, Enero 14, 2009 11:15 AM
To: Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero)
Cc: Chris Parker; Vik Malhi; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers


Hey ,

If u configure 128 as total bandwidth your call would not going through. BACD 
needs at least 144 to work properly.

The reason is with BACD u have one 16k call (if using G729 over wan) and one 
128K call (this is caused by CME ARQ to GK)

The question is if requirement be like that : 

-the minimum configuration lines to GK work properly - so 1 zone 
should be used

-use cac to limit your call to sth less than 144 

- run BACD on CME

Is there any way to accomplish this?

I couldn't find a way myself. It would be great if someone comes up with new 
idea to do this





On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 2:39 AM, Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) 
jlin...@cisco.com wrote:


Hi Chris:

The problem is that the router that is registered to the GK sends an 
ARQ to the GK, and due to the fact you have configured bandwidth total with a 
value less than 128k the call is rejected. The question is, why, if we are 
using a dial peer with session target a loopback IP address, does it send an 
ARQ to the GK. I was reading a lot trying to find the answer, and it is not a 
bug, it is the normal behaviour, the recommendation for a one zone GK when yor 
are required to do CAC is to configure at least 128k, when you have more than 
one zone, you have to use the interzone command, and generally, when you have a 
single zone there is no CAC requirement.

Maybe Vik have another point of view, but that is what I found when I 
saw this problem first time.


Regards,

Jose

-Original Message-
From: Chris Parker [mailto:cpar...@cparker.us]

Sent: Miércoles, Enero 14, 2009 9:34 AM
To: Vik Malhi
Cc: Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero); ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

Vik,

When I type no gateway and try the call again it goes through. So I 
must be running into this issue. I do have bandwidth total configured on my GK 
as well. It is set to 96. I'm guessing if I bump it up to 128 to allow a g711 
call it'll work?

Chris

Vik Malhi wrote:
 Jose is about to bring a very complicated problem with using the
 bandwidth total command inside gatekeeper and how it impacts B-ACD.

 Chris- please make the call to the B-ACD AA from a CME phone and paste
 the output of debug ras (assuming the router is registered to a
 gatekeeper).
 --
 Vik Malhi - CCIE #13890, CCSI #31584
 Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

 Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
 Fax: +1.810.454.0130
 Mailto: _vma...@ipexpert.com

 _
 Join our free online support and peer group communities:
 _http://www.IPexpert.com/communities
 _IPexpert - The Global Leader in Self-Study, Classroom-Based,
 Video-On-Demand and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco
 CCIE RS Lab, CCIE Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE
 Voice Lab and CCIE Storage Lab Certifications.







 --
 --
 *From: *Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) jlin...@cisco.com
 *Date: *Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:03:59 -0500
 *To: *Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us,
 ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 *Subject: *Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

 Hi Chris:

 Is this router registered to a gatekeeper?.

 Regards,

 Jose


 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Parker [mailto:cpar...@cparker.us]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 09:56 PM Eastern Standard Time
 To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

 I have had problems getting BACD to dial using voip from the phones on
 CME. I can dial into the BACD fine from the PSTN, but not from my IP
 phones. Here is my config:

 voice service voip
 allow-connections h323 to h323

 dial-peer voice 3500 pots
 service aa
 incoming called-number 3500
 port 0/2/0:23
 !
 dial-peer voice 3501 voip
 destination-pattern 3500
 

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Cyrus
Hey ,

If u configure 128 as total bandwidth your call would not going through.
BACD needs at least 144 to work properly.

The reason is with BACD u have one 16k call (if using G729 over wan) and one
128K call (this is caused by CME ARQ to GK)

The question is if requirement be like that :

-the minimum configuration lines to GK work properly - so 1 zone
should be used

-use cac to limit your call to sth less than 144

- run BACD on CME

Is there any way to accomplish this?

I couldn't find a way myself. It would be great if someone comes up with new
idea to do this




On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 2:39 AM, Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) 
jlin...@cisco.com wrote:

 Hi Chris:

 The problem is that the router that is registered to the GK sends an ARQ to
 the GK, and due to the fact you have configured bandwidth total with a value
 less than 128k the call is rejected. The question is, why, if we are using a
 dial peer with session target a loopback IP address, does it send an ARQ to
 the GK. I was reading a lot trying to find the answer, and it is not a bug,
 it is the normal behaviour, the recommendation for a one zone GK when yor
 are required to do CAC is to configure at least 128k, when you have more
 than one zone, you have to use the interzone command, and generally, when
 you have a single zone there is no CAC requirement.

 Maybe Vik have another point of view, but that is what I found when I saw
 this problem first time.

 Regards,

 Jose

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Parker [mailto:cpar...@cparker.us]
 Sent: Miércoles, Enero 14, 2009 9:34 AM
 To: Vik Malhi
 Cc: Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero); ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

 Vik,

 When I type no gateway and try the call again it goes through. So I must
 be running into this issue. I do have bandwidth total configured on my GK as
 well. It is set to 96. I'm guessing if I bump it up to 128 to allow a g711
 call it'll work?

 Chris

 Vik Malhi wrote:
  Jose is about to bring a very complicated problem with using the
  bandwidth total command inside gatekeeper and how it impacts B-ACD.
 
  Chris- please make the call to the B-ACD AA from a CME phone and paste
  the output of debug ras (assuming the router is registered to a
  gatekeeper).
  --
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  Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
 
  Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
  Fax: +1.810.454.0130
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  --
  *From: *Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) jlin...@cisco.com
  *Date: *Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:03:59 -0500
  *To: *Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us,
  ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
  *Subject: *Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers
 
  Hi Chris:
 
  Is this router registered to a gatekeeper?.
 
  Regards,
 
  Jose
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Parker [mailto:cpar...@cparker.us]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 09:56 PM Eastern Standard Time
  To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
  Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers
 
  I have had problems getting BACD to dial using voip from the phones on
  CME. I can dial into the BACD fine from the PSTN, but not from my IP
  phones. Here is my config:
 
  voice service voip
  allow-connections h323 to h323
 
  dial-peer voice 3500 pots
  service aa
  incoming called-number 3500
  port 0/2/0:23
  !
  dial-peer voice 3501 voip
  destination-pattern 3500
  session target ipv4:172.16.101.3
  dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
  codec g711ulaw
  no vad
  !
  dial-peer voice 3502 voip
  service aa
  incoming called-number 3500
  dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
  codec g711ulaw
  no vad
 
  Eveytime I call the number I get no circuit
 
  128A : 67 12560ms.53 +-1 +3280 pid:20004 Answer 3004 dur 00:00:00
  tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22 (no circuit (34)) Telephony 50/0/4 (67) [50/0/4.0]
  tx:0/0/0ms None noise:0dBm acom:0dBm long duration call detected:n
  long dur callduration :n/a timestamp:n/a128F : 71 125594800ms.54 +-1
  +30 pid:3501 Originate 3500 dur 00:00:00 tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22 (no circuit
  (34)) IP 0.0.0.0:0 SRTP: off rtt:0ms pl:0/0ms lost:0/0/0 delay:0/0/0ms
  g729r8 pre-ietf TextRelay: off media inactive detected:n media contrl
  rcvd:n/a timestamp:n/a long duration call detected:n long dur
  callduration :n/a timestamp:n/a
 
 
 




-- 
Sirus Moghadasian
CCIE #21862 (RS)


Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Chris Parker

Thanks Jose,

Strange stuff to say the least... My GK config is multizone so I will 
adjust my bandwidth statements accordingly.


Chris

Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) wrote:

Hi Chris:

The problem is that the router that is registered to the GK sends an ARQ to the 
GK, and due to the fact you have configured bandwidth total with a value less 
than 128k the call is rejected. The question is, why, if we are using a dial 
peer with session target a loopback IP address, does it send an ARQ to the GK. 
I was reading a lot trying to find the answer, and it is not a bug, it is the 
normal behaviour, the recommendation for a one zone GK when yor are required to 
do CAC is to configure at least 128k, when you have more than one zone, you 
have to use the interzone command, and generally, when you have a single zone 
there is no CAC requirement.

Maybe Vik have another point of view, but that is what I found when I saw this 
problem first time.

Regards,

Jose

-Original Message-
From: Chris Parker [mailto:cpar...@cparker.us] 
Sent: Miércoles, Enero 14, 2009 9:34 AM

To: Vik Malhi
Cc: Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero); ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

Vik,

When I type no gateway and try the call again it goes through. So I must be 
running into this issue. I do have bandwidth total configured on my GK as well. It is set 
to 96. I'm guessing if I bump it up to 128 to allow a g711 call it'll work?

Chris

Vik Malhi wrote:
  
Jose is about to bring a very complicated problem with using the 
bandwidth total command inside gatekeeper and how it impacts B-ACD.


Chris- please make the call to the B-ACD AA from a CME phone and paste 
the output of debug ras (assuming the router is registered to a 
gatekeeper).

--
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Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
Fax: +1.810.454.0130
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--
--
*From: *Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) jlin...@cisco.com
*Date: *Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:03:59 -0500
*To: *Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us, 
ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com

*Subject: *Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

Hi Chris:

Is this router registered to a gatekeeper?.

Regards,

Jose


-Original Message-
From: Chris Parker [mailto:cpar...@cparker.us]
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 09:56 PM Eastern Standard Time
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

I have had problems getting BACD to dial using voip from the phones on 
CME. I can dial into the BACD fine from the PSTN, but not from my IP 
phones. Here is my config:


voice service voip
allow-connections h323 to h323

dial-peer voice 3500 pots
service aa
incoming called-number 3500
port 0/2/0:23
!
dial-peer voice 3501 voip
destination-pattern 3500
session target ipv4:172.16.101.3
dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
codec g711ulaw
no vad
!
dial-peer voice 3502 voip
service aa
incoming called-number 3500
dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
codec g711ulaw
no vad

Eveytime I call the number I get no circuit

128A : 67 12560ms.53 +-1 +3280 pid:20004 Answer 3004 dur 00:00:00 
tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22 (no circuit (34)) Telephony 50/0/4 (67) [50/0/4.0] 
tx:0/0/0ms None noise:0dBm acom:0dBm long duration call detected:n 
long dur callduration :n/a timestamp:n/a128F : 71 125594800ms.54 +-1 
+30 pid:3501 Originate 3500 dur 00:00:00 tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22 (no circuit 
(34)) IP 0.0.0.0:0 SRTP: off rtt:0ms pl:0/0ms lost:0/0/0 delay:0/0/0ms 
g729r8 pre-ietf TextRelay: off media inactive detected:n media contrl 
rcvd:n/a timestamp:n/a long duration call detected:n long dur 
callduration :n/a timestamp:n/a









  




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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue

2009-01-14 Thread Vik Malhi
The two solutions work- either you place your MOH server in a g711-always DP
and your should set the SRST router to use 239.1.1.1. OR...IF you did but
the MOH server in a DP that uses g729 to site B (for whatever reason) then
you should set the SRST router to use 239.1.1.3.

The MOH file on the flash will be sent out using the same IP Address CCM is
telling the phone/gateway to listen. The phone on hold is receiving RTP
packets and the payload type will be g711u- however CCM ³thinks² that the
MOH server back in HQ is active and the stream is g729. But I guess that¹s
the whole idea of spoofing- CCM is not aware of what is going on. The codec
CCM ³thinks² is being used and the actual codec are different- but that will
not affect the end result.

Also- while we are on the topic of sourcing music from the flash- you all
should be putting in the command: no mgcp timer receive-rtcp (in the case of
an MGCP gateway)




-- 
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Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
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From: Alex alex.arsen...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:58:36 -
To: Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue

Vik,
AFAIK if G.729 is enabled in IPVMSA and MOH server is in HQ DP (which allows
only G.729 to Site B) then the following happens:
- CCM instructs Site B phones to join mcast group 239.1.1.3 which is G.729
MOH
-Site B router streams only G.711 MOH from flash to 239.1.1.1
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/iosswrel/ps5207/products_feature_guid
e09186a00802d1c31.html#wp1043334
Expected result: no MOH on Site B phones
If G.729 is not enabled for IPVMSA and MOH server is in HQ DP (which allows
only G.729 to Site B), then:
- CCM cannot find a suitable mcast group for Site B phones to join
Expected result: no MOH on Site B phones
If G.729 is not enabled for IPVMSA and MOH server is in G.711-only DP (which
allows G.711 to Site B), then:
- CCM instructs Site B phones to join mcast group 239.1.1.1 which is G.711
ulaw MOH
-Site B router streams only G.711 MOH from flash to 239.1.1.1
Expected result: MOH plays on Site B phones
Do I miss something here?
Rgds
Alex
  
 - Original Message -
  
 From:  Vik Malhi mailto:vma...@ipexpert.com
  
 To: kamal yousaf mailto:lovingprin...@gmail.com  ; Christian Hennrich
 mailto:christian.hennr...@intact-is.com
  
 Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com  ; Kumar,Narinder
 mailto:narinder.ku...@uxcg.com.au
  
 Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 6:39  AM
  
 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH  Issue
  
 
 239.1.1.1 port 16384 is always reserved for g711u for  Audio Source 1,
 239.1.1.2 for g711alaw, 239.1.1.3 for g729 and 239.1.1.4 for  Wideband.
 
 Since the BR1 DP is communicating with the MOH server using  g729 (or should I
 say CCM ³thinks² g729 is the negotiated codec whereas in  realty we are
 spoofing from the remote site router) CallManager will increment  on port # or
 ip address.
 
 In your case MOH---BR1 DP uses g729  and you increment on ip address. You
 should have G729 allowed in IP Voice  Media Streaming App for this to work.
 Everything on CallManager should be  configured as normal- without enabling
 g729 will cause the MOH sourced from  the flash to fail.
 
 You need the commands as shown  below.
 
 Call-manager-fallback
 Moh filename ( Moh file in flash
 no   multicast moh 239.1.1.1 port 16384 route x.x.x.x
 multicast moh  239.1.1.3 port 16384 route x.x.x.x
 
 
 Note ­ you cannot change  multicast ip addresses on the fly and so you must
 delete the first command  (incorrect multicast cmd).
 
 -- 
 Vik Malhi ­ CCIE #13890, CCSI #31584
 Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
 
 Telephone:  +1.810.326.1444
 Fax: +1.810.454.0130
 Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com
 
 
 Join  our free online support and peer group communities:
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 Security  Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE Voice Lab and CCIE Storage Lab
 Certifications.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  From: kamal yousaf lovingprin...@gmail.com
 Date:  Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:13:35 +1100
 To: Christian Hennrich christian.hennr...@intact-is.com
 Cc:  ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com,  Kumar, Narinder
 narinder.ku...@uxcg.com.au
 Subject:  Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue
 
 Alex,
 
  Regarding your  comment, If MOH server uses 239.1.1.3 to stream G729 to
 remote phones,  shouldn't we enable G.729 for MOH ? Only exception is using
 transcoder but  

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Vik Malhi
Ok- Jose got it right and this is what he was about to say (right?)

What is the difference between these two dial-peers on a gateway registered
to GK?

Dial-peer voice 1 voip
 destination-pattern 1...
 session target ras
 ...

AND


Dial-peer voice 2 voip
 destination-pattern 1...
 session target ipv4:Loopback0 IP Address
 ...


When peer 1 is used an ARQ is sent to GK- it contains a bandwdidth Request
and also a called # that needs resolving.

When peer 2 is used an ARQ is also sent to the GK since this is also a VOIP
call on a gateway to a gatkeeper- it contains just a bandwidth request
though since we already did the resolution on the gateway (Lo0).

With the B-ACD call we all know that we are sending the call to himself- the
Loopback interface- as a workaround to invoke service aa on the inbound
voip dial-peer. However the gateway/gk is master/slave and no VOIP call can
take place without GK's authorization. The gateway doesn't cross-reference
locally configured ip addresses for every session target.

So even though the call is local GK still needs to accept the bandwidth
request. And this is where bandwidth total ... 128 would hurt you since
the B-ACD call will always use g711ulaw and the INTRA-bandwidth required is
going to be 128kbps.

Bandwidth total and B-ACD are dangerous for this reason.



-- 
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Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
Fax: +1.810.454.0130
Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com


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 From: Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us
 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:34:13 -0500
 To: Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com
 Cc: Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) jlin...@cisco.com,
 ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers
 
 Vik,
 
 When I type no gateway and try the call again it goes through. So I
 must be running into this issue. I do have bandwidth total configured on
 my GK as well. It is set to 96. I'm guessing if I bump it up to 128 to
 allow a g711 call it'll work?
 
 Chris
 
 Vik Malhi wrote:
 Jose is about to bring a very complicated problem with using the
 bandwidth total command inside gatekeeper and how it impacts B-ACD.
 
 Chris- please make the call to the B-ACD AA from a CME phone and paste
 the output of debug ras (assuming the router is registered to a
 gatekeeper).
 -- 
 Vik Malhi ­ CCIE #13890, CCSI #31584
 Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
 
 Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
 Fax: +1.810.454.0130
 Mailto: _vma...@ipexpert.com
 
 _
 Join our free online support and peer group communities:
 _http://www.IPexpert.com/communities
 _IPexpert - The Global Leader in Self-Study, Classroom-Based,
 Video-On-Demand and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco
 CCIE RS Lab, CCIE Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE
 Voice Lab and CCIE Storage Lab Certifications.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 *From: *Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) jlin...@cisco.com
 *Date: *Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:03:59 -0500
 *To: *Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us, ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 *Subject: *Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers
 
 Hi Chris:
 
 Is this router registered to a gatekeeper?.
 
 Regards,
 
 Jose
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Parker [mailto:cpar...@cparker.us]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 09:56 PM Eastern Standard Time
 To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers
 
 I have had problems getting BACD to dial using voip from the phones on
 CME. I can dial into the BACD fine from the PSTN, but not from my IP
 phones. Here is my config:
 
 voice service voip
 allow-connections h323 to h323
 
 dial-peer voice 3500 pots
 service aa
 incoming called-number 3500
 port 0/2/0:23
 !
 dial-peer voice 3501 voip
 destination-pattern 3500
 session target ipv4:172.16.101.3
 dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
 codec g711ulaw
 no vad
 !
 dial-peer voice 3502 voip
 service aa
 incoming called-number 3500
 dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
 codec g711ulaw
 no vad
 
 Eveytime I call the number I get no circuit
 
 128A : 67 12560ms.53 +-1 +3280 pid:20004 Answer 3004
 dur 00:00:00 tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22 (no circuit (34))
 Telephony 50/0/4 (67) [50/0/4.0] tx:0/0/0ms None noise:0dBm acom:0dBm
 long duration call detected:n long dur callduration :n/a
 timestamp:n/a128F : 71 125594800ms.54 +-1 +30 pid:3501 Originate 3500
 dur 00:00:00 tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22 (no circuit (34))
 IP 0.0.0.0:0 SRTP: off rtt:0ms pl:0/0ms lost:0/0/0 delay:0/0/0ms g729r8
 pre-ietf TextRelay: off
 media inactive detected:n media contrl rcvd:n/a timestamp:n/a
 long duration call detected:n long dur callduration :n/a 

[OSL | CCIE_Voice] For MLP, is TS required?

2009-01-14 Thread wafers44
I understand that when configuring LLQ w/ FR, TS is required. If we
configured FRF.12, TS is also required.

Several questions;

1. If we configure MLP alone, is TS required?

I was under the assumption that it's not required. Going by Volume 3 L5 Q43,
the solutions doesn't have TS configured when asked to configure
fragmentation using MLP w/ LLQ. However, when I configure MLP on my router
w/ out TS, I get the following error message-

Jan 14 16:46:39.543: %FR-3-MLPOFR_ERROR: MLPoFR not configured properly on
Link Virtual-Access2 Bundle Virtual-Access3 :Frame Relay traffic shaping
must be enabled

2. If we configure MLP w/ LLQ, is TS required?


Vik, can you provide your insight?


Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue

2009-01-14 Thread anil batra
Hi Vik,
 
My response/querry in between lines to your response please...I hv have Q's???


--- On Wed, 1/14/09, Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com wrote:

From: Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue
To: Alex alex.arsen...@gmail.com
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 11:18 PM


The two solutions work- either you place your MOH server in a g711-always DP 
and your should set the SRST router to use 239.1.1.1 .with this I beleive we 
will only have G711 MOH stream only  ??? Are we supposed to set on SRST router 
to use 239.1.1.3then the stream will be G729 or still G711  And what 
should be set on IPVMA Service Parameter just G711 or both
 
 
OR...IF you did but the MOH server in a DP that uses g729 to site B (for 
whatever reason) then you should set the SRST router to use 239.1.1.3.  ---with 
this tte strea mwill be G729 ... And what should be set on IPVMA Service 
Parameter just G711 or both



The MOH file on the flash will be sent out using the same IP Address CCM is 
telling the phone/gateway to listen. The phone on hold is receiving RTP packets 
and the payload type will be g711u- however CCM “thinks” that the MOH server 
back in HQ is active and the stream is g729. But I guess that’s the whole idea 
of spoofing- CCM is not aware of what is going on. The codec CCM “thinks” is 
being used and the actual codec are different- but that will not affect the end 
result.

Also- while we are on the topic of sourcing music from the flash- you all 
should be putting in the command: no mgcp timer receive-rtcp (in the case of an 
MGCP gateway)




-- 
Vik Malhi – CCIE #13890, CCSI #31584 
Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 
Fax: +1.810.454.0130 
Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com


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From: Alex alex.arsen...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:58:36 -
To: Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue

Vik,
AFAIK if G.729 is enabled in IPVMSA and MOH server is in HQ DP (which allows 
only G.729 to Site B) then the following happens:
- CCM instructs Site B phones to join mcast group 239.1.1.3 which is G.729 MOH
-Site B router streams only G.711 MOH from flash to 239.1.1.1 
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/iosswrel/ps5207/products_feature_guide09186a00802d1c31.html#wp1043334
Expected result: no MOH on Site B phones
If G.729 is not enabled for IPVMSA and MOH server is in HQ DP (which allows 
only G.729 to Site B), then:
- CCM cannot find a suitable mcast group for Site B phones to join 
Expected result: no MOH on Site B phones
If G.729 is not enabled for IPVMSA and MOH server is in G.711-only DP (which 
allows G.711 to Site B), then:
- CCM instructs Site B phones to join mcast group 239.1.1.1 which is G.711 ulaw 
MOH
-Site B router streams only G.711 MOH from flash to 239.1.1.1 
Expected result: MOH plays on Site B phones
Do I miss something here?
Rgds
Alex


- Original Message - 
 
From:  Vik Malhi mailto:vma...@ipexpert.com   
 
To: kamal yousaf mailto:lovingprin...@gmail.com  ; Christian Hennrich 
mailto:christian.hennr...@intact-is.com  
 
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com  ; Kumar,Narinder 
mailto:narinder.ku...@uxcg.com.au  
 
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 6:39  AM
 
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH  Issue
 

239.1.1.1 port 16384 is always reserved for g711u for  Audio Source 1, 
239.1.1.2 for g711alaw, 239.1.1.3 for g729 and 239.1.1.4 for  Wideband.

Since the BR1 DP is communicating with the MOH server using  g729 (or should I 
say CCM “thinks” g729 is the negotiated codec whereas in  realty we are 
spoofing from the remote site router) CallManager will increment  on port # or 
ip address.

In your case MOH---BR1 DP uses g729  and you increment on ip address. You 
should have G729 allowed in IP Voice  Media Streaming App for this to work. 
Everything on CallManager should be  configured as normal- without enabling 
g729 will cause the MOH sourced from  the flash to fail.

You need the commands as shown  below.

Call-manager-fallback
Moh filename ( Moh file in flash
no   multicast moh 239.1.1.1 port 16384 route x.x.x.x
multicast moh  239.1.1.3 port 16384 route x.x.x.x


Note – you cannot change  multicast ip addresses on the fly and so you must 
delete the first command  (incorrect multicast cmd).

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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] MLP layer 2 overhead

2009-01-14 Thread Ryan Trauernicht
Can anyone tell for certain if MLP with FR is 13 bytes for overhead on layer
2 or is it 13 (MLP) + 4 (FR)?
Page 33 on SRND for QOS only said 13 bytes for MLP (PPP).  It doesnt say it
includes FR.

Vik can you comment on that?  You WAN video I believe said it does, but just
wanting to make sure.

Thanks,
Ryan Trauernicht


Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue

2009-01-14 Thread Ryan Trauernicht
If i set my MOH server to G729 for the remote branch and put a G711 file on
the flash with the following commands:
moh .wav
multicast moh 239.1.1.3 port 16384 route X.X.X.X X.X.X.X


I get dead air is that b/c the file type loaded on the flash needs to be
g729?



On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Antonio McCarver
amccar...@cciequest.comwrote:

 Hello group,
 I am at the very beginning stages of my lab prep so please forgive me if
 this is one of those come on newbie, you should've known that questions. I
 have read and re-read the MOH section in the CallManager Fundamentals book,
 and in the CUCM 7.x SRND and I don't see where either went into detail about
 the different mcast addresses 239.1.1.1, .2, or .3. My question is, where
 can I look to read up on them and this issue?

 Amp


 Quoting Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com:

  The two solutions work- either you place your MOH server in a g711-always
 DP
 and your should set the SRST router to use 239.1.1.1. OR...IF you did but
 the MOH server in a DP that uses g729 to site B (for whatever reason) then
 you should set the SRST router to use 239.1.1.3.

 The MOH file on the flash will be sent out using the same IP Address CCM
 is
 telling the phone/gateway to listen. The phone on hold is receiving RTP
 packets and the payload type will be g711u- however CCM ³thinks² that the
 MOH server back in HQ is active and the stream is g729. But I guess that¹s
 the whole idea of spoofing- CCM is not aware of what is going on. The
 codec
 CCM ³thinks² is being used and the actual codec are different- but that
 will
 not affect the end result.

 Also- while we are on the topic of sourcing music from the flash- you all
 should be putting in the command: no mgcp timer receive-rtcp (in the case
 of
 an MGCP gateway)




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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] marking on routers

2009-01-14 Thread anil batra
So Vik, as Ryan pinted out ...do we still need to mark the traffic on router 
using class-map/policy-map etc eben though we are marking on dial-peers 
please

--- On Sat, 1/10/09, Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com wrote:

From: Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] marking on routers
To: Ryan Trauernicht ryanstudyvo...@gmail.com, Jose Gregorio Linero 
(jlinero) jlin...@cisco.com
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com, Majdi Harb majdi.h...@gmail.com
Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 8:43 AM


Correct. Unless there is another reason why you need to turn QoS on the switch 
(e.g. Policer or Tx queues cos mapping) then you can simply keep QoS turned off 
and the original marking will be preserved. And you would have to modify the 
Enterprise params, Service Params, potentially CTI and IPVMSA params.
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From: Ryan Trauernicht ryanstudyvo...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 16:46:17 -0600
To: Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) jlin...@cisco.com
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com, Majdi Harb majdi.h...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] marking on routers

I guess thinking about this alittle more... if you do not have qos turned on at 
the switch level (aka trusting everything).  Do you even need to mark on the 
ingress of the ports or mark at all for that matter.  CM is marking packets 
correctly.  If you put the ip qos dscp cs3 sign command on the dial-peers 
that will mark packets correctly for the sip and h323 traffic.  mgcp ip qos 
dscp cs3 sign for mgcp. 

Why would you really need to mark traffic?

On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) 
jlin...@cisco.com wrote:

Yes Ryan, that is wright



From: Ryan Trauernicht [mailto:ryanstudyvo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Viernes, Enero 09, 2009 3:40 PM
To: Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero)
Cc: Majdi Harb; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] marking on routers

Why would you need both directions.  If you mark them on the ingress of the 
fast ethernet on each location you dont need the other direction.

On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) 
jlin...@cisco.com wrote:


 
Hi  Majdi:

 
 
Actually  you have to do it in both directions for both TCP and UDP.

 
 
Regards,

 
 
Jose

 
 


From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com 
[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of  Majdi Harb
Sent: Viernes, Enero 09, 2009 1:14 PM
To:  ccie_vo...@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: [OSL |  CCIE_Voice] marking on routers

 
 
 
 
 
 
Hi
 
 
 
can someone please correct me in the following, i want to mark sccp,  h323, 
mgcp and sip traffic to cs3 on sites routers, i've done the  following on HQ 
router: 
 
 
 
ip access-list extended CONTROL 
 permit tcp any range 2000 2002  any
 
 permit udp any eq 2427 any
 permit tcp any eq  2428 any
 
 
 permit tcp any any eq 1720 
 permit tcp any any range 11000  11999 
 permit udp any any eq 1719 
 permit udp any any  eq 1718 
 
 permit tdp any any eq 5060
 
 permit udp any any eq 5060
 
class-map match-any SIGNAL
 match access-group name CONTROL  
 
policy-map IPPHONE 
 class SIGNAL 
  set ip dscp cs3  
 
int f0/0.101 
 service-policy input IPPHONE 
 
 
 
i'm not sure if i'm using the right direction in the above matches,  what if i 
have SIP FXS on HQ router, is (permit tdp any any eq 5060 and permit  udp any 
any eq 5060) correct or it should be (permit tdp any eq 5060 any and  permit 
udp any eq 5060 any) 
 
 
 
please correct me... or am i really off on this ..?
 
 
 
Regards,
 
majdi
 
 
  
 
  
 

 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

 
 
  
  
  
  
  
  






  

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MLP layer 2 overhead

2009-01-14 Thread Ryan Trauernicht
I guess on top of that if you do MLP with LFI is that the 13 bytes or is
just MLP 13bytes of overhead.

If you add in LFI how much layer 2 overhead does that add?

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Ryan Trauernicht ryanstudyvo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Can anyone tell for certain if MLP with FR is 13 bytes for overhead on
 layer 2 or is it 13 (MLP) + 4 (FR)?
 Page 33 on SRND for QOS only said 13 bytes for MLP (PPP).  It doesnt say it
 includes FR.

 Vik can you comment on that?  You WAN video I believe said it does, but
 just wanting to make sure.

 Thanks,
 Ryan Trauernicht



Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue

2009-01-14 Thread Vik Malhi
Can you post the output of debug ccm-m music all.

Check that the MOH is being active using debug ephone moh.

Dead air is better than tone. CCM thinks everything is working so the
problem is lying in the spoofing part.

I don¹t think it is anything to do with your MOH file- have you tried it
with the music-on-hold.au that is provided?


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From: Ryan Trauernicht ryanstudyvo...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:15:47 -0600
To: Antonio McCarver amccar...@cciequest.com
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue

If i set my MOH server to G729 for the remote branch and put a G711 file on
the flash with the following commands:

moh .wav
multicast moh 239.1.1.3 port 16384 route X.X.X.X X.X.X.X


I get dead air is that b/c the file type loaded on the flash needs to be
g729?



On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Antonio McCarver amccar...@cciequest.com
wrote:
 Hello group,
 I am at the very beginning stages of my lab prep so please forgive me if this
 is one of those come on newbie, you should've known that questions. I have
 read and re-read the MOH section in the CallManager Fundamentals book, and in
 the CUCM 7.x SRND and I don't see where either went into detail about the
 different mcast addresses 239.1.1.1, .2, or .3. My question is, where can I
 look to read up on them and this issue?
 
 Amp
 
 
 Quoting Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com:
 
 The two solutions work- either you place your MOH server in a g711-always DP
 and your should set the SRST router to use 239.1.1.1. OR...IF you did but
 the MOH server in a DP that uses g729 to site B (for whatever reason) then
 you should set the SRST router to use 239.1.1.3.
 
 The MOH file on the flash will be sent out using the same IP Address CCM is
 telling the phone/gateway to listen. The phone on hold is receiving RTP
 packets and the payload type will be g711u- however CCM ³thinks² that the
 MOH server back in HQ is active and the stream is g729. But I guess that¹s
 the whole idea of spoofing- CCM is not aware of what is going on. The codec
 CCM ³thinks² is being used and the actual codec are different- but that will
 not affect the end result.
 
 Also- while we are on the topic of sourcing music from the flash- you all
 should be putting in the command: no mgcp timer receive-rtcp (in the case of
 an MGCP gateway)
 
 
 
 
 --
 Vik Malhi ­ CCIE #13890, CCSI #31584
 Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
 
 Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
 Fax: +1.810.454.0130
 Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com
 
 
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Vik Malhi
Yeah. 128 will be enough for calls made locally from the CME phones though.
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From: Cyrus cyrus@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 03:15:07 +1100
To: Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) jlin...@cisco.com
Cc: Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us, Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com,
ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

Hey ,

If u configure 128 as total bandwidth your call would not going through.
BACD needs at least 144 to work properly.

The reason is with BACD u have one 16k call (if using G729 over wan) and one
128K call (this is caused by CME ARQ to GK)

The question is if requirement be like that :

-the minimum configuration lines to GK work properly - so 1 zone
should be used

-use cac to limit your call to sth less than 144

- run BACD on CME

Is there any way to accomplish this?

I couldn't find a way myself. It would be great if someone comes up with new
idea to do this




On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 2:39 AM, Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero)
jlin...@cisco.com wrote:
 Hi Chris:
 
 The problem is that the router that is registered to the GK sends an ARQ to
 the GK, and due to the fact you have configured bandwidth total with a value
 less than 128k the call is rejected. The question is, why, if we are using a
 dial peer with session target a loopback IP address, does it send an ARQ to
 the GK. I was reading a lot trying to find the answer, and it is not a bug, it
 is the normal behaviour, the recommendation for a one zone GK when yor are
 required to do CAC is to configure at least 128k, when you have more than one
 zone, you have to use the interzone command, and generally, when you have a
 single zone there is no CAC requirement.
 
 Maybe Vik have another point of view, but that is what I found when I saw this
 problem first time.
 
 Regards,
 
 Jose
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Parker [mailto:cpar...@cparker.us]
 Sent: Miércoles, Enero 14, 2009 9:34 AM
 To: Vik Malhi
 Cc: Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero); ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers
 
 Vik,
 
 When I type no gateway and try the call again it goes through. So I must be
 running into this issue. I do have bandwidth total configured on my GK as
 well. It is set to 96. I'm guessing if I bump it up to 128 to allow a g711
 call it'll work?
 
 Chris
 
 Vik Malhi wrote:
  Jose is about to bring a very complicated problem with using the
  bandwidth total command inside gatekeeper and how it impacts B-ACD.
 
  Chris- please make the call to the B-ACD AA from a CME phone and paste
  the output of debug ras (assuming the router is registered to a
  gatekeeper).
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  --
  --
  *From: *Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) jlin...@cisco.com
  *Date: *Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:03:59 -0500
  *To: *Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us,
  ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
  *Subject: *Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers
 
  Hi Chris:
 
  Is this router registered to a gatekeeper?.
 
  Regards,
 
  Jose
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Parker [mailto:cpar...@cparker.us]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 09:56 PM Eastern Standard Time
  To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
  Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers
 
  I have had problems getting BACD to dial using voip from the phones on
  CME. I can dial into the BACD fine from the PSTN, but not from my IP
  phones. Here is my config:
 
  voice service voip
  allow-connections h323 to h323
 
  dial-peer voice 3500 pots
  service aa
  incoming called-number 3500
  port 0/2/0:23
  !
  dial-peer voice 3501 voip
  destination-pattern 3500
  session target ipv4:172.16.101.3
  dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
  codec g711ulaw
  no vad
  !
  dial-peer voice 3502 voip
  service aa
  incoming called-number 3500
  dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
  codec g711ulaw
  no vad
 
  Eveytime I call the number I get no circuit
 
  128A : 67 

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] For MLP, is TS required?

2009-01-14 Thread Vik Malhi
TS is required in both scenarios is the answer to your question. And it
would be VERY unlikely that you would be asked to configure LFI without LLQ
(in my humble opinion).


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From: wafers44 wafer...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:04:00 -0600
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com, Vik
Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com
Subject: For MLP, is TS required?

Jan 14 16:46:39.543: %FR-3-MLPOFR_ERROR: MLPoFR not configured properly on
Link Virtual-Access2 Bundle Virtual-Access3 :Frame Relay traffic shaping
must be enabled



Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] For MLP, is TS required?

2009-01-14 Thread Anthony Yeung
Thanks for the clarification.

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com wrote:
 TS is required in both scenarios is the answer to your question. And it
 would be VERY unlikely that you would be asked to configure LFI without LLQ
 (in my humble opinion).


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 From: wafers44 wafer...@gmail.com
 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:04:00 -0600
 To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com, Vik
 Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com
 Subject: For MLP, is TS required?

 Jan 14 16:46:39.543: %FR-3-MLPOFR_ERROR: MLPoFR not configured properly on
 Link Virtual-Access2 Bundle Virtual-Access3 :Frame Relay traffic shaping
 must be enabled



Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Cyrus
Vic,

Loopback solution is used as workaround to force CME to kick in the
Xcoder.As we can see with G711 ,there is no need for loopback solution.

But BACD work properly ,we need at least 144k BW on GK,  please correct me
if I'm wrong

128+16 for incoming calls from WAN

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com wrote:

 Ok- Jose got it right and this is what he was about to say (right?)

 What is the difference between these two dial-peers on a gateway registered
 to GK?

 Dial-peer voice 1 voip
  destination-pattern 1...
  session target ras
  ...

 AND


 Dial-peer voice 2 voip
  destination-pattern 1...
  session target ipv4:Loopback0 IP Address
  ...


 When peer 1 is used an ARQ is sent to GK- it contains a bandwdidth Request
 and also a called # that needs resolving.

 When peer 2 is used an ARQ is also sent to the GK since this is also a VOIP
 call on a gateway to a gatkeeper- it contains just a bandwidth request
 though since we already did the resolution on the gateway (Lo0).

 With the B-ACD call we all know that we are sending the call to himself-
 the
 Loopback interface- as a workaround to invoke service aa on the inbound
 voip dial-peer. However the gateway/gk is master/slave and no VOIP call can
 take place without GK's authorization. The gateway doesn't cross-reference
 locally configured ip addresses for every session target.

 So even though the call is local GK still needs to accept the bandwidth
 request. And this is where bandwidth total ... 128 would hurt you since
 the B-ACD call will always use g711ulaw and the INTRA-bandwidth required is
 going to be 128kbps.

 Bandwidth total and B-ACD are dangerous for this reason.



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  From: Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us
  Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:34:13 -0500
  To: Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com
  Cc: Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) jlin...@cisco.com,
  ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
  Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers
 
  Vik,
 
  When I type no gateway and try the call again it goes through. So I
  must be running into this issue. I do have bandwidth total configured on
  my GK as well. It is set to 96. I'm guessing if I bump it up to 128 to
  allow a g711 call it'll work?
 
  Chris
 
  Vik Malhi wrote:
  Jose is about to bring a very complicated problem with using the
  bandwidth total command inside gatekeeper and how it impacts B-ACD.
 
  Chris- please make the call to the B-ACD AA from a CME phone and paste
  the output of debug ras (assuming the router is registered to a
  gatekeeper).
  --
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  Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
 
  Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
  Fax: +1.810.454.0130
  Mailto: _vma...@ipexpert.com
 
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  *From: *Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) jlin...@cisco.com
  *Date: *Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:03:59 -0500
  *To: *Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us, 
 ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
  *Subject: *Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers
 
  Hi Chris:
 
  Is this router registered to a gatekeeper?.
 
  Regards,
 
  Jose
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Parker [mailto:cpar...@cparker.us]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 09:56 PM Eastern Standard Time
  To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
  Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers
 
  I have had problems getting BACD to dial using voip from the phones on
  CME. I can dial into the BACD fine from the PSTN, but not from my IP
  phones. Here is my config:
 
  voice service voip
  allow-connections h323 to h323
 
  dial-peer voice 3500 pots
  service aa
  incoming called-number 3500
  port 0/2/0:23
  !
  dial-peer voice 3501 voip
  destination-pattern 3500
  session target ipv4:172.16.101.3
  dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
  codec g711ulaw
  no vad
  !
  dial-peer voice 3502 voip
  service aa
  incoming called-number 3500
  dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
  codec g711ulaw
  no vad
 
  Eveytime I call the number I get no circuit
 
  128A : 67 12560ms.53 +-1 +3280 pid:20004 Answer 3004
  dur 00:00:00 tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22 (no circuit (34))
  Telephony 50/0/4 

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue

2009-01-14 Thread Ryan Trauernicht
home lab that I pulled the sample audio from the MOH folder.  I set it to
G711only and change the IP address to 239.1.1.1 and all is well.

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com wrote:

  Can you post the output of debug ccm-m music all.

 Check that the MOH is being active using debug ephone moh.

 Dead air is better than tone. CCM thinks everything is working so the
 problem is lying in the spoofing part.

 I don't think it is anything to do with your MOH file- have you tried it
 with the music-on-hold.au that is provided?


 --
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 Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

 Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
 Fax: +1.810.454.0130
 Mailto: *vma...@ipexpert.com

 *
 Join our free online support and peer group communities:
 *http://www.IPexpert.com/communities
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 RS Lab, CCIE Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE Voice Lab and
 CCIE Storage Lab Certifications.







 --
 *From: *Ryan Trauernicht ryanstudyvo...@gmail.com
 *Date: *Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:15:47 -0600
 *To: *Antonio McCarver amccar...@cciequest.com
 *Cc: *ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 *Subject: *Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue

 If i set my MOH server to G729 for the remote branch and put a G711 file on
 the flash with the following commands:

 moh .wav
 multicast moh 239.1.1.3 port 16384 route X.X.X.X X.X.X.X


 I get dead air is that b/c the file type loaded on the flash needs to
 be g729?



 On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Antonio McCarver 
 amccar...@cciequest.com wrote:

 Hello group,
 I am at the very beginning stages of my lab prep so please forgive me if
 this is one of those come on newbie, you should've known that questions. I
 have read and re-read the MOH section in the CallManager Fundamentals book,
 and in the CUCM 7.x SRND and I don't see where either went into detail about
 the different mcast addresses 239.1.1.1, .2, or .3. My question is, where
 can I look to read up on them and this issue?

 Amp


 Quoting Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com:

 The two solutions work- either you place your MOH server in a g711-always
 DP
 and your should set the SRST router to use 239.1.1.1. OR...IF you did but
 the MOH server in a DP that uses g729 to site B (for whatever reason) then
 you should set the SRST router to use 239.1.1.3.

 The MOH file on the flash will be sent out using the same IP Address CCM is
 telling the phone/gateway to listen. The phone on hold is receiving RTP
 packets and the payload type will be g711u- however CCM thinks that the
 MOH server back in HQ is active and the stream is g729. But I guess that's
 the whole idea of spoofing- CCM is not aware of what is going on. The codec
 CCM thinks is being used and the actual codec are different- but that
 will
 not affect the end result.

 Also- while we are on the topic of sourcing music from the flash- you all
 should be putting in the command: no mgcp timer receive-rtcp (in the case
 of
 an MGCP gateway)




 --
 Vik Malhi – CCIE #13890, CCSI #31584
 Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

 Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
 Fax: +1.810.454.0130
 Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com


 Join our free online support and peer group communities:
 http://www.IPexpert.com/communities
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 Video-On-Demand
 and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco CCIE RS Lab, CCIE
 Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE Voice Lab and CCIE Storage
 Lab Certifications.








[OSL | CCIE_Voice] anyway to remove sdspfarm config without doing no telephony ?

2009-01-14 Thread jeremy co
Hi,


every time I want to change sdspfarm config , I have to do no telephony and
put everything back again.


Is there any way to remove sdspfarm tag command, in case I want to change
Mac address ?



Jeremy


Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue

2009-01-14 Thread Ryan Trauernicht
My fault monday mistake!  I had it based on port based and not IP based.
All working now.

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Ryan Trauernicht
ryanstudyvo...@gmail.comwrote:

 home lab that I pulled the sample audio from the MOH folder.  I set it to
 G711only and change the IP address to 239.1.1.1 and all is well.


 On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com wrote:

  Can you post the output of debug ccm-m music all.

 Check that the MOH is being active using debug ephone moh.

 Dead air is better than tone. CCM thinks everything is working so the
 problem is lying in the spoofing part.

 I don't think it is anything to do with your MOH file- have you tried it
 with the music-on-hold.au that is provided?


 --
 Vik Malhi – CCIE #13890, CCSI #31584
 Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

 Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
 Fax: +1.810.454.0130
 Mailto: *vma...@ipexpert.com

 *
 Join our free online support and peer group communities:
 *http://www.IPexpert.com/communities
 *IPexpert - The Global Leader in Self-Study, Classroom-Based,
 Video-On-Demand and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco CCIE
 RS Lab, CCIE Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE Voice Lab and
 CCIE Storage Lab Certifications.







 --
 *From: *Ryan Trauernicht ryanstudyvo...@gmail.com
 *Date: *Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:15:47 -0600
 *To: *Antonio McCarver amccar...@cciequest.com
 *Cc: *ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 *Subject: *Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue

 If i set my MOH server to G729 for the remote branch and put a G711 file
 on the flash with the following commands:

 moh .wav
 multicast moh 239.1.1.3 port 16384 route X.X.X.X X.X.X.X


 I get dead air is that b/c the file type loaded on the flash needs to
 be g729?



 On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Antonio McCarver 
 amccar...@cciequest.com wrote:

 Hello group,
 I am at the very beginning stages of my lab prep so please forgive me if
 this is one of those come on newbie, you should've known that questions. I
 have read and re-read the MOH section in the CallManager Fundamentals book,
 and in the CUCM 7.x SRND and I don't see where either went into detail about
 the different mcast addresses 239.1.1.1, .2, or .3. My question is, where
 can I look to read up on them and this issue?

 Amp


 Quoting Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com:

 The two solutions work- either you place your MOH server in a g711-always
 DP
 and your should set the SRST router to use 239.1.1.1. OR...IF you did but
 the MOH server in a DP that uses g729 to site B (for whatever reason) then
 you should set the SRST router to use 239.1.1.3.

 The MOH file on the flash will be sent out using the same IP Address CCM
 is
 telling the phone/gateway to listen. The phone on hold is receiving RTP
 packets and the payload type will be g711u- however CCM thinks that the
 MOH server back in HQ is active and the stream is g729. But I guess that's
 the whole idea of spoofing- CCM is not aware of what is going on. The
 codec
 CCM thinks is being used and the actual codec are different- but that
 will
 not affect the end result.

 Also- while we are on the topic of sourcing music from the flash- you all
 should be putting in the command: no mgcp timer receive-rtcp (in the case
 of
 an MGCP gateway)




 --
 Vik Malhi – CCIE #13890, CCSI #31584
 Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

 Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
 Fax: +1.810.454.0130
 Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com


 Join our free online support and peer group communities:
 http://www.IPexpert.com/communities
 IPexpert - The Global Leader in Self-Study, Classroom-Based,
 Video-On-Demand
 and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco CCIE RS Lab, CCIE
 Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE Voice Lab and CCIE Storage
 Lab Certifications.









Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 overhead

2009-01-14 Thread wafers44
FR = 4 bytes
FRF.12 = 8 bytes

Agreed.

For MLPoFR (w/ or w/out LFI - but in our case we would only be using MLP for
LFI) I've been using 4B (FR) + 13B (MLP). Also, in all the IPExpert solution
guides for Volume 3 atleast they've been using 4B+13B for MLPoFR


On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Ryan Trauernicht
ryanstudyvo...@gmail.comwrote:

 Reading the SRND and a few other books on the WAN QOS... looks like FR
 layer 2 is not included in the page 33 statements.
 Vik can you confirm these are correct for layer 2 byte sizes.

 MLP in the SRST states it is 13 bytes for layer 2.  That actually includes
 LFI

 MLP without LFI  FR = 10 bytes
 MLP with LFI and without FR = 13 bytes
 MLP with LFI  FR = 17 bytes

 FR = 4 bytes
 FRF.12 = 8 bytes

 anyone agree or disagree?

 Thanks,
 Ryan Trauernicht




Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] For MLP, is TS required?

2009-01-14 Thread Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero)
Hi:
 
If you are configuring MLPoFR you have to have TS.
 
Regards,
 
Jose



From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com 
[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of wafers44
Sent: Miércoles, Enero 14, 2009 1:04 PM
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; Vik Malhi
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] For MLP, is TS required?


I understand that when configuring LLQ w/ FR, TS is required. If we configured 
FRF.12, TS is also required.

Several questions;

1. If we configure MLP alone, is TS required?

I was under the assumption that it's not required. Going by Volume 3 L5 Q43, 
the solutions doesn't have TS configured when asked to configure fragmentation 
using MLP w/ LLQ. However, when I configure MLP on my router w/ out TS, I get 
the following error message-

Jan 14 16:46:39.543: %FR-3-MLPOFR_ERROR: MLPoFR not configured properly on Link 
Virtual-Access2 Bundle Virtual-Access3 :Frame Relay traffic shaping must be 
enabled

2. If we configure MLP w/ LLQ, is TS required?


Vik, can you provide your insight?




Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 overhead

2009-01-14 Thread Ryan Trauernicht
Ok good..
FRF.12 w/ FR = 8

FR = 4
FRF.12 = 4

sorry for the confusion.

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 1:58 PM, wafers44 wafer...@gmail.com wrote:

 FR = 4 bytes
 FRF.12 = 8 bytes

 Agreed.

 For MLPoFR (w/ or w/out LFI - but in our case we would only be using MLP
 for LFI) I've been using 4B (FR) + 13B (MLP). Also, in all the IPExpert
 solution guides for Volume 3 atleast they've been using 4B+13B for MLPoFR


 On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Ryan Trauernicht 
 ryanstudyvo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Reading the SRND and a few other books on the WAN QOS... looks like FR
 layer 2 is not included in the page 33 statements.
 Vik can you confirm these are correct for layer 2 byte sizes.

 MLP in the SRST states it is 13 bytes for layer 2.  That actually includes
 LFI

 MLP without LFI  FR = 10 bytes
 MLP with LFI and without FR = 13 bytes
 MLP with LFI  FR = 17 bytes

 FR = 4 bytes
 FRF.12 = 8 bytes

 anyone agree or disagree?

 Thanks,
 Ryan Trauernicht





Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue

2009-01-14 Thread Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero)
Hi Ryan:
 
No it does not, it could be G711.
 
Regards,
 
Jose



From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com 
[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Trauernicht
Sent: Miércoles, Enero 14, 2009 1:16 PM
To: Antonio McCarver
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue


If i set my MOH server to G729 for the remote branch and put a G711 file on the 
flash with the following commands: 

moh .wav
multicast moh 239.1.1.3 port 16384 route X.X.X.X X.X.X.X


I get dead air is that b/c the file type loaded on the flash needs to be 
g729?



On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Antonio McCarver amccar...@cciequest.com 
wrote:


Hello group,
I am at the very beginning stages of my lab prep so please forgive me 
if this is one of those come on newbie, you should've known that questions. I 
have read and re-read the MOH section in the CallManager Fundamentals book, and 
in the CUCM 7.x SRND and I don't see where either went into detail about the 
different mcast addresses 239.1.1.1, .2, or .3. My question is, where can I 
look to read up on them and this issue?

Amp 


Quoting Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com:



The two solutions work- either you place your MOH server in a 
g711-always DP
and your should set the SRST router to use 239.1.1.1. OR...IF 
you did but
the MOH server in a DP that uses g729 to site B (for whatever 
reason) then
you should set the SRST router to use 239.1.1.3.

The MOH file on the flash will be sent out using the same IP 
Address CCM is
telling the phone/gateway to listen. The phone on hold is 
receiving RTP
packets and the payload type will be g711u- however CCM 
³thinks² that the
MOH server back in HQ is active and the stream is g729. But I 
guess that¹s
the whole idea of spoofing- CCM is not aware of what is going 
on. The codec
CCM ³thinks² is being used and the actual codec are different- 
but that will
not affect the end result.

Also- while we are on the topic of sourcing music from the 
flash- you all
should be putting in the command: no mgcp timer receive-rtcp 
(in the case of
an MGCP gateway)




--
Vik Malhi ­ CCIE #13890, CCSI #31584
Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
Fax: +1.810.454.0130
Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com


Join our free online support and peer group communities:
http://www.IPexpert.com/communities
IPexpert - The Global Leader in Self-Study, Classroom-Based, 
Video-On-Demand
and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco CCIE RS 
Lab, CCIE
Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE Voice Lab and 
CCIE Storage
Lab Certifications.







Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 overhead

2009-01-14 Thread Vik Malhi
MLPoFR is actually either 10 or 11 bytes (my memory is failing me). In the
SRND it states MLP is 13 bytes. The 13 bytes I can only imagine is a
conservative estimate or is MLPoATM. It certainly is very conservative for
MLPoFR. 

I would clarify with the proctor- I would not use 13 + 4 = 17 bytes.

Page 33 of the QoS SRND talks about these values and I would treat the 13
bytes listed for MLP as being appropriate for MLPoFR.

-- 
Vik Malhi ­ CCIE #13890, CCSI #31584
Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
Fax: +1.810.454.0130
Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com


Join our free online support and peer group communities:
http://www.IPexpert.com/communities
IPexpert - The Global Leader in Self-Study, Classroom-Based, Video-On-Demand
and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco CCIE RS Lab, CCIE
Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE Voice Lab and CCIE Storage
Lab Certifications.








From: Ryan Trauernicht ryanstudyvo...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:50:10 -0600
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 overhead

Reading the SRND and a few other books on the WAN QOS... looks like FR layer
2 is not included in the page 33 statements.

Vik can you confirm these are correct for layer 2 byte sizes.

MLP in the SRST states it is 13 bytes for layer 2.  That actually includes
LFI

MLP without LFI  FR = 10 bytes
MLP with LFI and without FR = 13 bytes
MLP with LFI  FR = 17 bytes

FR = 4 bytes
FRF.12 = 8 bytes

anyone agree or disagree?

Thanks,
Ryan Trauernicht





Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 overhead

2009-01-14 Thread anil batra
So Vik when it says don't use FRF.12 , that is we got to use MLP LFI in that 
case how much the payload be 
 
20+4+13 =17
 
or 20+13 = 33
 
Kindly let us know...


--- On Thu, 1/15/09, Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com wrote:

From: Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 overhead
To: Ryan Trauernicht ryanstudyvo...@gmail.com, 
ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 1:42 AM


MLPoFR is actually either 10 or 11 bytes (my memory is failing me). In the SRND 
it states MLP is 13 bytes. The 13 bytes I can only imagine is a conservative 
estimate or is MLPoATM. It certainly is very conservative for MLPoFR. 

I would clarify with the proctor- I would not use 13 + 4 = 17 bytes.

Page 33 of the QoS SRND talks about these values and I would treat the 13 bytes 
listed for MLP as being appropriate for MLPoFR.

-- 
Vik Malhi – CCIE #13890, CCSI #31584 
Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 
Fax: +1.810.454.0130 
Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com


Join our free online support and peer group communities: 
http://www.IPexpert.com/communities
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and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco CCIE RS Lab, CCIE 
Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE Voice Lab and CCIE Storage Lab 
Certifications.









From: Ryan Trauernicht ryanstudyvo...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:50:10 -0600
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 overhead

Reading the SRND and a few other books on the WAN QOS... looks like FR layer 2 
is not included in the page 33 statements.  

Vik can you confirm these are correct for layer 2 byte sizes.

MLP in the SRST states it is 13 bytes for layer 2.  That actually includes LFI

MLP without LFI  FR = 10 bytes
MLP with LFI and without FR = 13 bytes
MLP with LFI  FR = 17 bytes

FR = 4 bytes
FRF.12 = 8 bytes

anyone agree or disagree?

Thanks,
Ryan Trauernicht





  

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 overhead

2009-01-14 Thread anil batra
sorry need to add RTP/UDP/Header 40 too to these vlaues..so shall it be 
 
MLP with LFI  = 20+40+4+13 =77 or 20+40-+13 =73
  
 


--- On Thu, 1/15/09, anil batra anil...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: anil batra anil...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 overhead
To: Ryan Trauernicht ryanstudyvo...@gmail.com, 
ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com, Vik Malhi 
vma...@ipexpert.com
Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 1:52 AM







So Vik when it says don't use FRF.12 , that is we got to use MLP LFI in that 
case how much the payload be 
 
20+4+13 =17
 
or 20+13 = 33
 
Kindly let us know...


--- On Thu, 1/15/09, Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com wrote:

From: Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 overhead
To: Ryan Trauernicht ryanstudyvo...@gmail.com, 
ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 1:42 AM


MLPoFR is actually either 10 or 11 bytes (my memory is failing me). In the SRND 
it states MLP is 13 bytes. The 13 bytes I can only imagine is a conservative 
estimate or is MLPoATM. It certainly is very conservative for MLPoFR. 

I would clarify with the proctor- I would not use 13 + 4 = 17 bytes.

Page 33 of the QoS SRND talks about these values and I would treat the 13 bytes 
listed for MLP as being appropriate for MLPoFR.

-- 
Vik Malhi – CCIE #13890, CCSI #31584 
Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 
Fax: +1.810.454.0130 
Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com


Join our free online support and peer group communities: 
http://www.IPexpert.com/communities
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and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco CCIE RS Lab, CCIE 
Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE Voice Lab and CCIE Storage Lab 
Certifications.









From: Ryan Trauernicht ryanstudyvo...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:50:10 -0600
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 overhead

Reading the SRND and a few other books on the WAN QOS... looks like FR layer 2 
is not included in the page 33 statements.  

Vik can you confirm these are correct for layer 2 byte sizes.

MLP in the SRST states it is 13 bytes for layer 2.  That actually includes LFI

MLP without LFI  FR = 10 bytes
MLP with LFI and without FR = 13 bytes
MLP with LFI  FR = 17 bytes

FR = 4 bytes
FRF.12 = 8 bytes

anyone agree or disagree?

Thanks,
Ryan Trauernicht






  

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 overhead

2009-01-14 Thread Shadab Abbasi (moabbasi)
It is 17 for sure.

Regards,
Shadab
CCIE# 22893 (Voice)
Technology Solutions Network
~Sent from my NOKIA E61i~

 -Original Message-
From:   anil batra [mailto:anil...@yahoo.com]
Sent:   Thursday, January 15, 2009 04:23 AM China Standard Time
To: Ryan Trauernicht; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; Vik Malhi
Subject:Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 overhead

So Vik when it says don't use FRF.12 , that is we got to use MLP LFI in that 
case how much the payload be 
 
20+4+13 =17
 
or 20+13 = 33
 
Kindly let us know...


--- On Thu, 1/15/09, Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com wrote:

From: Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 overhead
To: Ryan Trauernicht ryanstudyvo...@gmail.com, 
ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 1:42 AM


MLPoFR is actually either 10 or 11 bytes (my memory is failing me). In the SRND 
it states MLP is 13 bytes. The 13 bytes I can only imagine is a conservative 
estimate or is MLPoATM. It certainly is very conservative for MLPoFR. 

I would clarify with the proctor- I would not use 13 + 4 = 17 bytes.

Page 33 of the QoS SRND talks about these values and I would treat the 13 bytes 
listed for MLP as being appropriate for MLPoFR.

-- 
Vik Malhi - CCIE #13890, CCSI #31584 
Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 
Fax: +1.810.454.0130 
Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com


Join our free online support and peer group communities: 
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and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco CCIE RS Lab, CCIE 
Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE Voice Lab and CCIE Storage Lab 
Certifications.









From: Ryan Trauernicht ryanstudyvo...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:50:10 -0600
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 overhead

Reading the SRND and a few other books on the WAN QOS... looks like FR layer 2 
is not included in the page 33 statements.  

Vik can you confirm these are correct for layer 2 byte sizes.

MLP in the SRST states it is 13 bytes for layer 2.  That actually includes LFI

MLP without LFI  FR = 10 bytes
MLP with LFI and without FR = 13 bytes
MLP with LFI  FR = 17 bytes

FR = 4 bytes
FRF.12 = 8 bytes

anyone agree or disagree?

Thanks,
Ryan Trauernicht





  


Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 overhead

2009-01-14 Thread Shadab Abbasi (moabbasi)
And yes, its 77 w/o compression  39 with compression

Regards,
Shadab
CCIE# 22893 (Voice)
Technology Solutions Network
~Sent from my NOKIA E61i~

 -Original Message-
From:   anil batra [mailto:anil...@yahoo.com]
Sent:   Thursday, January 15, 2009 04:26 AM China Standard Time
To: Ryan Trauernicht; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; Vik Malhi
Subject:Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 overhead

sorry need to add RTP/UDP/Header 40 too to these vlaues..so shall it be 
 
MLP with LFI  = 20+40+4+13 =77 or 20+40-+13 =73
  
 


--- On Thu, 1/15/09, anil batra anil...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: anil batra anil...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 overhead
To: Ryan Trauernicht ryanstudyvo...@gmail.com, 
ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com, Vik Malhi 
vma...@ipexpert.com
Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 1:52 AM







So Vik when it says don't use FRF.12 , that is we got to use MLP LFI in that 
case how much the payload be 
 
20+4+13 =17
 
or 20+13 = 33
 
Kindly let us know...


--- On Thu, 1/15/09, Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com wrote:

From: Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 overhead
To: Ryan Trauernicht ryanstudyvo...@gmail.com, 
ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 1:42 AM


MLPoFR is actually either 10 or 11 bytes (my memory is failing me). In the SRND 
it states MLP is 13 bytes. The 13 bytes I can only imagine is a conservative 
estimate or is MLPoATM. It certainly is very conservative for MLPoFR. 

I would clarify with the proctor- I would not use 13 + 4 = 17 bytes.

Page 33 of the QoS SRND talks about these values and I would treat the 13 bytes 
listed for MLP as being appropriate for MLPoFR.

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From: Ryan Trauernicht ryanstudyvo...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:50:10 -0600
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 overhead

Reading the SRND and a few other books on the WAN QOS... looks like FR layer 2 
is not included in the page 33 statements.  

Vik can you confirm these are correct for layer 2 byte sizes.

MLP in the SRST states it is 13 bytes for layer 2.  That actually includes LFI

MLP without LFI  FR = 10 bytes
MLP with LFI and without FR = 13 bytes
MLP with LFI  FR = 17 bytes

FR = 4 bytes
FRF.12 = 8 bytes

anyone agree or disagree?

Thanks,
Ryan Trauernicht






  


Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue

2009-01-14 Thread Hardesty, Scott
 Could you post your sho run on the router that you are sourcing the MOH from?  
If you are getting dead air, that means your CCM is setup correctly and the 
issue is pointing to the local MOH configuration.  Do you have at least 1 
ephone defined?

 

Another note, if you had it working with g711 and just changed the moh / 
multicast information to reflect g729 you may have to delete the entire 
call-manager fallback configuration and paste it back in with the g729 
information.  I have run into this in the past.

 


 
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7601 Ora Glen Drive, Suite 100, Greenbelt, MD  20770 | 
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From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com 
[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jose Gregorio 
Linero (jlinero)
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 3:07 PM
To: Ryan Trauernicht; Antonio McCarver
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue

 

Hi Ryan:

 

No it does not, it could be G711.

 

Regards,

 

Jose

 



From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com 
[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Trauernicht
Sent: Miércoles, Enero 14, 2009 1:16 PM
To: Antonio McCarver
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue

If i set my MOH server to G729 for the remote branch and put a G711 file on the 
flash with the following commands: 

 

moh .wav

multicast moh 239.1.1.3 port 16384 route X.X.X.X X.X.X.X

 

 

I get dead air is that b/c the file type loaded on the flash needs to be 
g729?

 

 

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Antonio McCarver amccar...@cciequest.com 
wrote:

Hello group,
I am at the very beginning stages of my lab prep so please forgive me if this 
is one of those come on newbie, you should've known that questions. I have 
read and re-read the MOH section in the CallManager Fundamentals book, and in 
the CUCM 7.x SRND and I don't see where either went into detail about the 
different mcast addresses 239.1.1.1, .2, or .3. My question is, where can I 
look to read up on them and this issue?

Amp 



Quoting Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com:

The two solutions work- either you place your MOH server in a g711-always DP
and your should set the SRST router to use 239.1.1.1. OR...IF you did but
the MOH server in a DP that uses g729 to site B (for whatever reason) then
you should set the SRST router to use 239.1.1.3.

The MOH file on the flash will be sent out using the same IP Address CCM is
telling the phone/gateway to listen. The phone on hold is receiving RTP
packets and the payload type will be g711u- however CCM ³thinks² that the
MOH server back in HQ is active and the stream is g729. But I guess that¹s
the whole idea of spoofing- CCM is not aware of what is going on. The codec
CCM ³thinks² is being used and the actual codec are different- but that will
not affect the end result.

Also- while we are on the topic of sourcing music from the flash- you all
should be putting in the command: no mgcp timer receive-rtcp (in the case of
an MGCP gateway)




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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 overhead

2009-01-14 Thread Ryan Trauernicht
Vik any reason why the IPExperts lab do 13+4 for MLPoFR?

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Shadab Abbasi (moabbasi) 
moabb...@cisco.com wrote:

  And yes, its 77 w/o compression  39 with compression

 Regards,
 Shadab
 CCIE# 22893 (Voice)
 Technology Solutions Network
 ~Sent from my NOKIA E61i~

  -Original Message-
 From:   anil batra [mailto:anil...@yahoo.com anil...@yahoo.com]
 Sent:   Thursday, January 15, 2009 04:26 AM China Standard Time
 To: Ryan Trauernicht; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; Vik Malhi
 Subject:Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 overhead

 sorry need to add RTP/UDP/Header 40 too to these vlaues..so shall it be

 MLP with LFI  = 20+40+4+13 =77 or 20+40-+13 =73




 --- On Thu, 1/15/09, anil batra anil...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: anil batra anil...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 overhead
 To: Ryan Trauernicht ryanstudyvo...@gmail.com, 
 ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com, Vik
 Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com
 Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 1:52 AM








 So Vik when it says don't use FRF.12 , that is we got to use MLP LFI in
 that case how much the payload be

 20+4+13 =17

 or 20+13 = 33

 Kindly let us know...


 --- On Thu, 1/15/09, Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com wrote:

 From: Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com
 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 overhead
 To: Ryan Trauernicht ryanstudyvo...@gmail.com, 
 ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 1:42 AM


 MLPoFR is actually either 10 or 11 bytes (my memory is failing me). In the
 SRND it states MLP is 13 bytes. The 13 bytes I can only imagine is a
 conservative estimate or is MLPoATM. It certainly is very conservative for
 MLPoFR.

 I would clarify with the proctor- I would not use 13 + 4 = 17 bytes.

 Page 33 of the QoS SRND talks about these values and I would treat the 13
 bytes listed for MLP as being appropriate for MLPoFR.

 --
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 Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

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 From: Ryan Trauernicht ryanstudyvo...@gmail.com
 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:50:10 -0600
 To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 overhead

 Reading the SRND and a few other books on the WAN QOS... looks like FR
 layer 2 is not included in the page 33 statements.

 Vik can you confirm these are correct for layer 2 byte sizes.

 MLP in the SRST states it is 13 bytes for layer 2.  That actually includes
 LFI

 MLP without LFI  FR = 10 bytes
 MLP with LFI and without FR = 13 bytes
 MLP with LFI  FR = 17 bytes

 FR = 4 bytes
 FRF.12 = 8 bytes

 anyone agree or disagree?

 Thanks,
 Ryan Trauernicht










Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Chris Parker

Vik,

Makes complete sense. What if the voip peers used the SIP protocol? In 
that case I guess the GK would not be involved?


Chris

Vik Malhi wrote:

Ok- Jose got it right and this is what he was about to say (right?)

What is the difference between these two dial-peers on a gateway registered
to GK?

Dial-peer voice 1 voip
 destination-pattern 1...
 session target ras
 ...

AND


Dial-peer voice 2 voip
 destination-pattern 1...
 session target ipv4:Loopback0 IP Address
 ...


When peer 1 is used an ARQ is sent to GK- it contains a bandwdidth Request
and also a called # that needs resolving.

When peer 2 is used an ARQ is also sent to the GK since this is also a VOIP
call on a gateway to a gatkeeper- it contains just a bandwidth request
though since we already did the resolution on the gateway (Lo0).

With the B-ACD call we all know that we are sending the call to himself- the
Loopback interface- as a workaround to invoke service aa on the inbound
voip dial-peer. However the gateway/gk is master/slave and no VOIP call can
take place without GK's authorization. The gateway doesn't cross-reference
locally configured ip addresses for every session target.

So even though the call is local GK still needs to accept the bandwidth
request. And this is where bandwidth total ... 128 would hurt you since
the B-ACD call will always use g711ulaw and the INTRA-bandwidth required is
going to be 128kbps.

Bandwidth total and B-ACD are dangerous for this reason.



  




[OSL | CCIE_Voice] NTP CM

2009-01-14 Thread Ryan Trauernicht
Any reason why CM will not keep its NTP clock.
I have a local router with the following commands:

ntp master 3
ntp source loopback0  (IP address is 192.168.187.1)


I have edited the c:\WINNT\System32\Drivers\Etc\ntp.config


My file looks like:
server 192.168.187.1 # Set Local Clock to Authoritive Time Source
fudge 192.168.187.1 stratum 5 # Resets Stratum from default 3 to 5
driftfile C:\WINNT\system32\drivers\etc\ntp.drift # path for drift file

I stopped the Network Time Protocol service and I run ntpdate.exe
192.168.187.1 command from the cmd.

That sets the clock to sync to NTP router just fine.  After I reboot CM it
goes back to GMT it looks like.  I see it trying to sync but it never does.
 I have waited over 15mins and nothing.

Thanks,
Ryan Trauernicht


[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Feeling lost

2009-01-14 Thread Cliff McGlamry

I'm just starting out in the lab, and already feeling lost.

1.  WHERE does the IP Blue client come from?  If it has to be 
purchasedfrom WHERE?


2.  I see some posts about connecting a VPN up to run hardware that's local 
to me up to the Proctor Labs rack, and they mention documentation from 
Proctor Labs on doing this.   Again, WHERE is this documentation?


Some guidance definately appreciated.

Cliff 



Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Feeling lost

2009-01-14 Thread rob
Hi Cliff,

Finally there are some questions on here that I can answer! ;)

1. IPBlue = http://www.ipblue.com/download.asp?product=vtgo

2. IPExpert Tech FAQs =
http://ipexpert.ccieblog.com/2008/11/01/proctor-labs-voice-faq/

 http://proctorlabs.com/forum/ for FAQ's on how to connect via EZVPN...
Also, when you schedule an online lab and have the rack available there will
be comprehensive instructions/config/VPN profile made available before you
connect!

Hope this helps!

Rob


Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Feeling lost

2009-01-14 Thread Cliff McGlamry
Hmmm.

Can't find the setup for a hardware VPN to support physical phones on my end.  
The IP Expert Tech FAQ's hint at it, but provide no guidance.  ProtorLabs 
forums are completely hosed up and unusable for some reason.  Just a bunch of 
server debug coming to the browser.

  - Original Message - 
  From: rob 
  To: Cliff McGlamry 
  Cc: Vik Malhi ; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 6:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Feeling lost


  Hi Cliff, 

  Finally there are some questions on here that I can answer! ;)

  1. IPBlue = http://www.ipblue.com/download.asp?product=vtgo

  2. IPExpert Tech FAQs = 
http://ipexpert.ccieblog.com/2008/11/01/proctor-labs-voice-faq/

   http://proctorlabs.com/forum/ for FAQ's on how to connect via EZVPN... 
Also, when you schedule an online lab and have the rack available there will be 
comprehensive instructions/config/VPN profile made available before you 
connect! 

  Hope this helps! 

  Rob

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Feeling lost

2009-01-14 Thread rob
I'm also having problems with the proctorlabs forums at the moment!

Wait until they're back online and then check the FAQ section for the Voice
racks... There's a thread on there with an example EZVPN configuration that
you can modify depending on which rack you're assigned..


Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Vik Malhi
The Loopback solution is used for calls from the WAN invoking the AA and
also CME phones calling the AA- (144/128).
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From: Cyrus cyrus@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 06:13:45 +1100
To: Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

Vic,

Loopback solution is used as workaround to force CME to kick in the
Xcoder.As we can see with G711 ,there is no need for loopback solution.

But BACD work properly ,we need at least 144k BW on GK,  please correct me
if I'm wrong

128+16 for incoming calls from WAN

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com wrote:
 Ok- Jose got it right and this is what he was about to say (right?)
 
 What is the difference between these two dial-peers on a gateway registered
 to GK?
 
 Dial-peer voice 1 voip
  destination-pattern 1...
  session target ras
  ...
 
 AND
 
 
 Dial-peer voice 2 voip
  destination-pattern 1...
  session target ipv4:Loopback0 IP Address
  ...
 
 
 When peer 1 is used an ARQ is sent to GK- it contains a bandwdidth Request
 and also a called # that needs resolving.
 
 When peer 2 is used an ARQ is also sent to the GK since this is also a VOIP
 call on a gateway to a gatkeeper- it contains just a bandwidth request
 though since we already did the resolution on the gateway (Lo0).
 
 With the B-ACD call we all know that we are sending the call to himself- the
 Loopback interface- as a workaround to invoke service aa on the inbound
 voip dial-peer. However the gateway/gk is master/slave and no VOIP call can
 take place without GK's authorization. The gateway doesn't cross-reference
 locally configured ip addresses for every session target.
 
 So even though the call is local GK still needs to accept the bandwidth
 request. And this is where bandwidth total ... 128 would hurt you since
 the B-ACD call will always use g711ulaw and the INTRA-bandwidth required is
 going to be 128kbps.
 
 Bandwidth total and B-ACD are dangerous for this reason.
 
 
 
 --
 Vik Malhi ­ CCIE #13890, CCSI #31584
 Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
 
 Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
 Fax: +1.810.454.0130
 Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com
 
 
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 Lab Certifications.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us
  Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:34:13 -0500
  To: Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com
  Cc: Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) jlin...@cisco.com,
  ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
  Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers
 
  Vik,
 
  When I type no gateway and try the call again it goes through. So I
  must be running into this issue. I do have bandwidth total configured on
  my GK as well. It is set to 96. I'm guessing if I bump it up to 128 to
  allow a g711 call it'll work?
 
  Chris
 
  Vik Malhi wrote:
  Jose is about to bring a very complicated problem with using the
  bandwidth total command inside gatekeeper and how it impacts B-ACD.
 
  Chris- please make the call to the B-ACD AA from a CME phone and paste
  the output of debug ras (assuming the router is registered to a
  gatekeeper).
  --
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  Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
 
  Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
  Fax: +1.810.454.0130
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  *From: *Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) jlin...@cisco.com
  *Date: *Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:03:59 -0500
  *To: *Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us, ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
  *Subject: *Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers
 
  Hi Chris:
 
  Is this router registered to a gatekeeper?.
 
  Regards,
 
  Jose
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Parker [mailto:cpar...@cparker.us]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 09:56 PM Eastern Standard Time
  To: 

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Cyrus
Vic,

Loppback solution is *only* used as a workaround for invoking Xcoder
.Because calling from WAN to CME and then hitting AA would not force CME to
involve Xcoder.

So as a workaround we direct traffic to the loopback thus CME and Xcoder and
then AA will come to play.


Here is the proof.

GK with setup of G711 .


voice translation-rule 800
 rule 1 /6667878/ //

voice translation-profile INCOMING_GK
 translate called 1

dial-peer voice 800 voip
service aa
 translation-profile incoming INCOMING_GK
incoming called-number 6667878
 dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
codec g711u
 no vad

sh gatekeeper call

LocalCallIDAge(secs)   BW
138-14 13  128(Kbps)
 Endpt(s): Alias E.164Addr
   src EP: GK_TRUNK_12001
   CallSignalAddr  Port  RASSignalAddr   Port
   140.0.0.1 3345  140.0.0.1 3245
 Endpt(s): Alias E.164Addr
   dst EP: CME6667878
   CallSignalAddr  Port  RASSignalAddr   Port
   140.0.3.2541720  140.0.3.25449270


Opbviously  ARQ does not comes into play adn we need just 128 for G711 .

This way Service aa kicking in and work properly with out loopback solution.


Cyrus

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com wrote:

  The Loopback solution is used for calls from the WAN invoking the AA and
 also CME phones calling the AA- (144/128).
 --
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 Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

 Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
 Fax: +1.810.454.0130
 Mailto: *vma...@ipexpert.com

 *
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 --
 *From: *Cyrus cyrus@gmail.com
 *Date: *Thu, 15 Jan 2009 06:13:45 +1100
 *To: *Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com
 *Cc: *ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 *Subject: *Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

 Vic,

 Loopback solution is used as workaround to force CME to kick in the
 Xcoder.As we can see with G711 ,there is no need for loopback solution.

 But BACD work properly ,we need at least 144k BW on GK,  please correct me
 if I'm wrong

 128+16 for incoming calls from WAN


 On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com wrote:

 Ok- Jose got it right and this is what he was about to say (right?)

 What is the difference between these two dial-peers on a gateway registered
 to GK?

 Dial-peer voice 1 voip
  destination-pattern 1...
  session target ras
  ...

 AND


 Dial-peer voice 2 voip
  destination-pattern 1...
  session target ipv4:Loopback0 IP Address
  ...


 When peer 1 is used an ARQ is sent to GK- it contains a bandwdidth Request
 and also a called # that needs resolving.

 When peer 2 is used an ARQ is also sent to the GK since this is also a VOIP
 call on a gateway to a gatkeeper- it contains just a bandwidth request
 though since we already did the resolution on the gateway (Lo0).

 With the B-ACD call we all know that we are sending the call to himself-
 the
 Loopback interface- as a workaround to invoke service aa on the inbound
 voip dial-peer. However the gateway/gk is master/slave and no VOIP call can
 take place without GK's authorization. The gateway doesn't cross-reference
 locally configured ip addresses for every session target.

 So even though the call is local GK still needs to accept the bandwidth
 request. And this is where bandwidth total ... 128 would hurt you since
 the B-ACD call will always use g711ulaw and the INTRA-bandwidth required is
 going to be 128kbps.

 Bandwidth total and B-ACD are dangerous for this reason.



 --
 Vik Malhi – CCIE #13890, CCSI #31584
 Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

 Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
 Fax: +1.810.454.0130
 Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com


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 Video-On-Demand
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 Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE Voice Lab and CCIE Storage
 Lab Certifications.







  From: Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us
  Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:34:13 -0500
  To: Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com
  Cc: Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) jlin...@cisco.com,
  ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
  Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers
 
  Vik,
 
  When I type no gateway and try the call again it goes through. So I
  must be running into this issue. I do have bandwidth total configured on
  my GK as well. It is set to 96. I'm guessing if I bump it up to 128 to
  allow a g711 call it'll work?
 
  Chris
 
  Vik Malhi wrote:
  Jose is about to 

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Vik Malhi
Loopback solution is required for invoking the xcoder for calls from  
the WAN. However here is the bit I think you might be missing. The  
loopback solution is also required for Cme phones calling the AA and  
it is for this latter call I was originally focused on.


Vik Malhi - CCIE#13890
Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert Inc

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On Jan 14, 2009, at 5:49 PM, Cyrus cyrus@gmail.com wrote:


Vic,

Loppback solution is only used as a workaround for invoking  
Xcoder .Because calling from WAN to CME and then hitting AA would  
not force CME to involve Xcoder.


So as a workaround we direct traffic to the loopback thus CME and  
Xcoder and then AA will come to play.



Here is the proof.

GK with setup of G711 .


voice translation-rule 800
 rule 1 /6667878/ //

voice translation-profile INCOMING_GK
 translate called 1

dial-peer voice 800 voip
service aa
 translation-profile incoming INCOMING_GK
incoming called-number 6667878
 dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
codec g711u
 no vad

sh gatekeeper call

LocalCallIDAge(secs)   BW
138-14 13  128(Kbps)
 Endpt(s): Alias E.164Addr
   src EP: GK_TRUNK_12001
   CallSignalAddr  Port  RASSignalAddr   Port
   140.0.0.1 3345  140.0.0.1 3245
 Endpt(s): Alias E.164Addr
   dst EP: CME6667878
   CallSignalAddr  Port  RASSignalAddr   Port
   140.0.3.2541720  140.0.3.25449270


Opbviously  ARQ does not comes into play adn we need just 128 for  
G711 .


This way Service aa kicking in and work properly with out loopback  
solution.



Cyrus

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com  
wrote:
The Loopback solution is used for calls from the WAN invoking the AA  
and also CME phones calling the AA- (144/128).

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From: Cyrus cyrus@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 06:13:45 +1100
To: Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

Vic,

Loopback solution is used as workaround to force CME to kick in the  
Xcoder.As we can see with G711 ,there is no need for loopback  
solution.


But BACD work properly ,we need at least 144k BW on GK,  please  
correct me if I'm wrong


128+16 for incoming calls from WAN


On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com  
wrote:

Ok- Jose got it right and this is what he was about to say (right?)

What is the difference between these two dial-peers on a gateway  
registered

to GK?

Dial-peer voice 1 voip
 destination-pattern 1...
 session target ras
 ...

AND


Dial-peer voice 2 voip
 destination-pattern 1...
 session target ipv4:Loopback0 IP Address
 ...


When peer 1 is used an ARQ is sent to GK- it contains a bandwdidth  
Request

and also a called # that needs resolving.

When peer 2 is used an ARQ is also sent to the GK since this is also  
a VOIP

call on a gateway to a gatkeeper- it contains just a bandwidth request
though since we already did the resolution on the gateway (Lo0).

With the B-ACD call we all know that we are sending the call to  
himself- the
Loopback interface- as a workaround to invoke service aa on the  
inbound
voip dial-peer. However the gateway/gk is master/slave and no VOIP  
call can
take place without GK's authorization. The gateway doesn't cross- 
reference

locally configured ip addresses for every session target.

So even though the call is local GK still needs to accept the  
bandwidth
request. And this is where bandwidth total ... 128 would hurt you  
since
the B-ACD call will always use g711ulaw and the INTRA-bandwidth  
required is

going to be 128kbps.

Bandwidth total and B-ACD are dangerous for this reason.



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 From: Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us
 Date: Wed, 

[OSL | CCIE_Voice] All the files you need are on the router flash

2009-01-14 Thread Cliff McGlamry
I've seen this statment and it has been applied to both the Proctor Labs and 
the Cisco labs.  I'm curious about something.

1.  When installing things like CME, the TAR files often contain a read me file 
that has details on implementation.  Is that read me file available?  Is the 
TAR archive available where it can be extracted out?

2.  Is there a TFTP server on the laptop provided in the actual exam?  Does it 
have something like WinRAR that can rip open a TAR file?

Not trying to get into NDA territoryjust trying to understand what some of 
the statements mean.  I saw something today that indicates the command prompt 
isn't available on the laptop (bummerI use that a lot).  Any other known 
surprises like this anyone would care to share?

Cliff



Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] NTP CM

2009-01-14 Thread karuna durai
Hi,
After editing the ntp.conf file please fo to CMD as
C:\Prog file\cisco\xntp ntpdate -b IPADD of NTP


pls try this and let me know




On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:33 AM, Ryan Trauernicht
ryanstudyvo...@gmail.comwrote:

 Any reason why CM will not keep its NTP clock.
 I have a local router with the following commands:

 ntp master 3
 ntp source loopback0  (IP address is 192.168.187.1)


 I have edited the c:\WINNT\System32\Drivers\Etc\ntp.config


 My file looks like:
 server 192.168.187.1 # Set Local Clock to Authoritive Time Source
 fudge 192.168.187.1 stratum 5 # Resets Stratum from default 3 to 5
 driftfile C:\WINNT\system32\drivers\etc\ntp.drift # path for drift file

 I stopped the Network Time Protocol service and I run ntpdate.exe
 192.168.187.1 command from the cmd.

 That sets the clock to sync to NTP router just fine.  After I reboot CM it
 goes back to GMT it looks like.  I see it trying to sync but it never does.
  I have waited over 15mins and nothing.

 Thanks,
 Ryan Trauernicht




[OSL | CCIE_Voice] UNIVERCD

2009-01-14 Thread Cliff McGlamry
Does anyone know what is going on with the Cisco UNIVERCD?  I understand that 
we will have access to this during the actual lab, but many of the major 
sections related to voice are broken links.  

If this happens in the lab exam, are you just screwed or what?

Cliff


Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] unity and SRST wired problem , not the classic bug question!

2009-01-14 Thread Balamurugan Singaram
Hi Vik,
 
The 4082032220 is CTI route point in CCM, the CTI route point solution works 
only if I am disabling isdn outgoing ie redirectin-number under serial 
interface 0/2/0:23, If I am enbaling isdn outgoing ie redirect-number, then the 
CTI solution is not working.
 
Could please let me know the above solution is right or I am missing some thing.
 


--- On Wed, 14/1/09, Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com wrote:

From: Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] unity and SRST wired problem , not the classic 
bug question!
To: mmailb...@yahoo.com, jeremy co jeremy.coo...@gmail.com, 
ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Date: Wednesday, 14 January, 2009, 12:34 PM


In your lab what is 4082032220?

It should be a RP with a VM  Prof Mask = 3001 Call Fwd to VM.
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From: Balamurugan Singaram mmailb...@yahoo.com
Reply-To: mmailb...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:33:19 -0800 (PST)
To: jeremy co jeremy.coo...@gmail.com, ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com 
ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com, Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] unity and SRST wired problem , not the classic 
bug question!

Hi Vik,
 
For SRST voice mail follow the CTI route point solution it, but till I am 
facing the redirect number problem. THE CTI debug is paste below, could you 
please let me know your suggestion please
Best is solution to upgrade the IOS in home lab ? 

HQ#
*Jan 11 04:14:13.417: ISDN Se0/3/0:23 Q931: TX - SETUP pd = 8 callref = 0x000F

Bearer Capability i = 0x8090A2
Standard = CCITT
Transfer Capability = Speech
Transfer Mode = Circuit
Transfer Rate = 64 kbit/s
Channel ID i = 0xA98383
Exclusive, Channel 3
Facility i = 0x9F8B0100A10F020101020100800748512D32303031
Protocol Profile = Networking Extensions
0xA10F020101020100800748512D32303031
Component = Invoke component
Invoke Id = 1
Operation = CallingName
Name presentation allowed
Name = HQ-2001
Progress Ind i = 0x8083 - Origination address is non-ISDN
Display i = 'HQ-2001'
Calling Party Number i = 0x0081, '2001'
Plan:Unknown, Type:Unknown
Called Party Number i = 0x80, '19723033001'
Plan:Unknown, Type:Unknown
*Jan 11 04:14:13.457: ISDN Se0/3/0:23 Q931: RX - CALL_PROC pd = 8 callref = 0x
800F
Channel ID i = 0xA98383
Exclusive, Channel 3
*Jan 11 04:14:13.517: ISDN Se0/3/0:23 Q931: RX - ALERTING pd = 8 callref = 0x8
00F
Progress Ind i = 0x8188 - In-band info or appropriate now available
*Jan 11 04:14:18.549: ISDN Se0/3/0:23 Q931: RX - SETUP pd = 8 callref = 0x0181

Bearer Capability i = 0x9090A2
Standard = CCITT
Transfer Capability = 3.1kHz Audio
Transfer Mode = Circuit
Transfer Rate = 64 kbit/s
Channel ID i = 0xA98381
Exclusive, Channel 1
Facility i = 0x9F8B0100A10F020101020100800748512D32303031
Protocol Profile = Networking Extensions
0xA10F020101020100800748512D32303031
Component = Invoke component
Invoke Id = 1
Operation = CallingName
Name presentation allowed
Name = HQ-2001
Progress Ind i = 0x8083 - Origination address is non-ISDN
Display i = 'HQ-2001'
Calling Party Number i = 0x0081, '2001'
Plan:Unknown, Type:Unknown
Called Party Number i = 0xA1, '4082032220'
Plan:ISDN, Type:National
Redirecting Number i = 0x7FE0FF, '3001'
Plan:Reserved, Type:Reserved
*Jan 11 04:14:18.577: ISDN Se0/3/0:23 Q931: TX - CALL_PROC pd = 8 callref = 0x 

--- On Tue, 13/1/09, Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com wrote:

From: Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] unity and SRST wired problem , not the classic 
bug question!
To: jeremy co jeremy.coo...@gmail.com, ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com 
ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Date: Tuesday, 13 January, 2009, 12:30 AM

I don’t get any RDNIS so you are doing much better than me. I think this the 
RDNIS with SRST has bugs that are fixed in 12.4(7). What IOS are you using?
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From: jeremy co jeremy.coo...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:51:57 +1100
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] unity and SRST wired 

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] NTP CM

2009-01-14 Thread Ryan Trauernicht
That did not help
Digging alittle bit further into this I see that my CM is actually pulling
clock from my ESX box.  Not sure why that is happening.

Anyone else running ESX for their Call Manager having the same issue?

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 10:41 PM, karuna durai karu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 After editing the ntp.conf file please fo to CMD as
 C:\Prog file\cisco\xntp ntpdate -b IPADD of NTP


 pls try this and let me know





 On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:33 AM, Ryan Trauernicht 
 ryanstudyvo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Any reason why CM will not keep its NTP clock.
 I have a local router with the following commands:

 ntp master 3
 ntp source loopback0  (IP address is 192.168.187.1)


 I have edited the c:\WINNT\System32\Drivers\Etc\ntp.config


 My file looks like:
 server 192.168.187.1 # Set Local Clock to Authoritive Time Source
 fudge 192.168.187.1 stratum 5 # Resets Stratum from default 3 to 5
 driftfile C:\WINNT\system32\drivers\etc\ntp.drift # path for drift file

 I stopped the Network Time Protocol service and I run ntpdate.exe
 192.168.187.1 command from the cmd.

 That sets the clock to sync to NTP router just fine.  After I reboot CM it
 goes back to GMT it looks like.  I see it trying to sync but it never does.
  I have waited over 15mins and nothing.

 Thanks,
 Ryan Trauernicht





Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 overhead

2009-01-14 Thread Agh
This is getting confusing. I read in IEexpert (or Internetwork Expert, I
forgot) that for MLPoFR(g729),

without compression: 27.6
with compression: 12.4

Let me see if I can still access that article...




 Message: 2
 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:09:01 -0600
 From: Ryan Trauernicht ryanstudyvo...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 overhead
 To: Shadab Abbasi (moabbasi) moabb...@cisco.com
 Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com, Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com,
anil...@yahoo.com
 Message-ID:
8198026e0901141309v7fdc242fvaa686123dd7a4...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252

 Vik any reason why the IPExperts lab do 13+4 for MLPoFR?

 On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Shadab Abbasi (moabbasi) 
 moabb...@cisco.com wrote:

   And yes, its 77 w/o compression  39 with compression
 
  Regards,
  Shadab
  CCIE# 22893 (Voice)
  Technology Solutions Network
  ~Sent from my NOKIA E61i~
 
   -Original Message-
  From:   anil batra [mailto:anil...@yahoo.com anil...@yahoo.com]
  Sent:   Thursday, January 15, 2009 04:26 AM China Standard Time
  To: Ryan Trauernicht; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; Vik Malhi
  Subject:Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 overhead
 
  sorry need to add RTP/UDP/Header 40 too to these vlaues..so shall it be
 
  MLP with LFI  = 20+40+4+13 =77 or 20+40-+13 =73