[OSL | CCIE_Voice] CUE 7.0.3 ivr license installation failed

[Cyrus]

Hi ,

I got a strange problem when trying to install ivr license file , anybody
face this before ?

Downloading ftp cue-vm-license_4port_ivr_7.0.3.pkg
Bytes downloaded :  3319

Validating package signature ... done
compatibility mode
Validating installed manifests .complete.
The system will be brought to offline state for a brief period
and will be brought back to online state automatically
No work order produced.
The system is back in online state
55296+0 records in
108+0 records out
ERROR - Hot Installation failed.



Cyrus
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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] i do not get something reagrding the Audio product

[Shai Loufton]

Hello all,
I am sorry - I have tried to keep up with the emails here but I am confused.
Let's say I have bought the BLS and I have now here with me at home the
"old" v2.0 HDD of the BLS (which is the case here).
Now - the product gets updated - and the new VOD should come out "soon"
And there is a mention of a new Audio product, which raises these following
questions: 
 
1.   Will the new Audio product be part of the BLS?
2.   Can I ask, if it is part of the BLS, to have the new v3.0 HDD be
shipped to me only once the Audio part is done and have it on the HDD (like
it was on the v2.0 version and on the RS track HDD)?
 
Thanks,
Shai L.
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 workbook?

[Wayne Lawson]

The VOD is done, technically - but we're working on the menu and  
creation of the final product (final edits / production). It will  
probably be shipping much sooner, but I don't want to give a date that  
we can't hit. ;-)

Regards,

Wayne A. Lawson II - CCIE #5244
Founder, President & CEO:
- IPexpert, Inc.
- Proctor Labs, Inc.
- Platinum Solutions Group, LLC.
Mailto: wlaw...@ipexpert.com
Mobile: +1.810.334.1564

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On Jul 31, 2009, at 11:40 PM, "Aamir Panjwani"  wrote:

> Wayne, VOD will be shipping in 2 weeks? Mark said earlier this week  
> VOD
> will be available for shipping this coming Monday?
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Wayne
> Lawson
> Sent: Saturday, 1 August 2009 11:22 AM
> To: Alex Hannah
> Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 workbook?
>
> Alex -
>
>  Volume 2 already has 2 labs available, but it's not free if
> you've bought Volume 1 (we have 2 different books - 1 & 2). The VOD
> will be shipping in 2 weeks, Audio in about 6 weeks (audio will be a
> completely different product than the VOD). Please reference our blog
> for updates / shipping dates or contact one of our training advisors
> directly.
>
> Regards,
>
> Wayne A. Lawson II - CCIE #5244
> Founder, President & CEO:
> - IPexpert, Inc.
> - Proctor Labs, Inc.
> - Platinum Solutions Group, LLC.
> Mailto: wlaw...@ipexpert.com
> Mobile: +1.810.334.1564
>
> :: Message sent from iPhone.
>
> On Jul 31, 2009, at 8:01 PM, Alex Hannah   
> wrote:
>
>> Vik or Mark,
>>
>> Just out of curiousity when will volume 2 be out?  If we purchased
>> version 1 workbook and proctor guide are we entitled to volume 2 as a
>> download?  Also are the audio and videos being updated as well?  Any
>> eta on those?
>>
>> Thanks a bunch...
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 workbook?

[Wayne Lawson]

Jonathan,

  We have 2 workbooks - Volume 1 and Volume 2 - not "versions",  
but Volumesre-read the question.

Regards,

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Founder, President & CEO:
- IPexpert, Inc.
- Proctor Labs, Inc.
- Platinum Solutions Group, LLC.
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On Aug 1, 2009, at 12:14 AM, Jonathan Charles  wrote:

> What do you mean it is not free if you bought volume 1?
>
> What about those of us who bought the BLS for v2?
>
> Do we need to pay for an upgrade?
>
>
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 8:21 PM, Wayne  
> Lawson wrote:
>> Alex -
>>
>>  Volume 2 already has 2 labs available, but it's not free if
>> you've bought Volume 1 (we have 2 different books - 1 & 2). The VOD
>> will be shipping in 2 weeks, Audio in about 6 weeks (audio will be a
>> completely different product than the VOD). Please reference our blog
>> for updates / shipping dates or contact one of our training advisors
>> directly.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Wayne A. Lawson II - CCIE #5244
>> Founder, President & CEO:
>> - IPexpert, Inc.
>> - Proctor Labs, Inc.
>> - Platinum Solutions Group, LLC.
>> Mailto: wlaw...@ipexpert.com
>> Mobile: +1.810.334.1564
>>
>> :: Message sent from iPhone.
>>
>> On Jul 31, 2009, at 8:01 PM, Alex Hannah   
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Vik or Mark,
>>>
>>> Just out of curiousity when will volume 2 be out?  If we purchased
>>> version 1 workbook and proctor guide are we entitled to volume 2  
>>> as a
>>> download?  Also are the audio and videos being updated as well?  Any
>>> eta on those?
>>>
>>> Thanks a bunch...
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> please visit www.ipexpert.com
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 workbook?

[Jonathan Charles]

What do you mean it is not free if you bought volume 1?

What about those of us who bought the BLS for v2?

Do we need to pay for an upgrade?



Jonathan

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 8:21 PM, Wayne Lawson wrote:
> Alex -
>
>      Volume 2 already has 2 labs available, but it's not free if
> you've bought Volume 1 (we have 2 different books - 1 & 2). The VOD
> will be shipping in 2 weeks, Audio in about 6 weeks (audio will be a
> completely different product than the VOD). Please reference our blog
> for updates / shipping dates or contact one of our training advisors
> directly.
>
> Regards,
>
> Wayne A. Lawson II - CCIE #5244
> Founder, President & CEO:
> - IPexpert, Inc.
> - Proctor Labs, Inc.
> - Platinum Solutions Group, LLC.
> Mailto: wlaw...@ipexpert.com
> Mobile: +1.810.334.1564
>
> :: Message sent from iPhone.
>
> On Jul 31, 2009, at 8:01 PM, Alex Hannah  wrote:
>
>> Vik or Mark,
>>
>> Just out of curiousity when will volume 2 be out?  If we purchased
>> version 1 workbook and proctor guide are we entitled to volume 2 as a
>> download?  Also are the audio and videos being updated as well?  Any
>> eta on those?
>>
>> Thanks a bunch...
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[Aamir Panjwani]

ahh I see thanks for clarification!


-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Charles [mailto:jonv...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, 1 August 2009 2:12 PM
To: Aamir Panjwani
Cc: Brian Valentine; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

Please do not assume you will get the same feedback... I got this
because I had a potential hardware fault and it turned out I caused
the problem.


Jonathan

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Aamir
Panjwani wrote:
> Jonathan, the most interesting bit of this entire thread is that Ben Ng sent 
> you an email with explanation of why you failed!! CCIE exam is notorious for 
> not telling you exactly where you lost points. So this must be a massive help 
> for you. By the way is that some kind of a new process that every candidate 
> will get detailed report of reasons for failure or are you some sort of a VIP 
> customer for them :)
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com 
> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Charles
> Sent: Saturday, 1 August 2009 6:40 AM
> To: Brian Valentine
> Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>
> I know, in way too much detail, why I failed... I got an email from
> Ben Ng explaining it.
>
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Brian Valentine wrote:
>> I don't know what we expect Jonathan to tell us.  What we really want to ask
>> is something we don't really want to know and something he really can't tell
>> us anyway because of NDA.
>>
>> Jonathan, bummer that you failed.  It sounds like you know why you failed --
>> which is a very good thing.  Better luck on your next attempt.
>>
>> I will add this.  I took the R&S exam last year and passed on my first
>> attempt.  I also thought the exam was a fair test of knowledge and skill.
>> If you are well prepared in terms of understanding the technology deeply,
>> have a plan of how to attack your lab, and follow your plan, you certainly
>> CAN get 80 points in 8 hours.  Now, I realize it is a different exam, but I
>> would expect the voice exam to be similar in that it will be achievable.
>> Cisco doesn't want to know primarily that you can do stupid tricks with
>> routers and phones.  Now I haven't sat the voice lab exam yet, but I would
>> be extremely surprised and disappointed if there were 30 points of stupid
>> phone tricks.  Cisco wants to know that you understand the technology deeply
>> enough that you can configure to a set of complex requirements.  Bottom line
>> -- they want to know that you are an expert. To an expert the exam should
>> seem "easy".   Of course, you could always have a tricky question or two,
>> but remember that you don't need 100% to pass.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
>> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Damisch
>> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 2:17 PM
>> To: Jonathan Charles; Tanner Ezell
>> Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>>
>> Thanks for that last bit of info.  I will be sure to work on the [deleted by
>> NDA] topics.  Those are my weak areas.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Kevin
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
>> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan
>> Charles
>> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 1:05 PM
>> To: Tanner Ezell
>> Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>>
>> Well, the [deleted by NDA] was [deleted by NDA] than I expected, but
>> [deleted by NDA] was [deleted by NDA] and [deleted by NDA] was also
>> [deleted by NDA]
>>
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Tanner Ezell
>> wrote:
>>> So basically, you had thoughts, but can't share, and you did things, but
>> you
>>> cannot tell us
>>> So all in all, 
>>> :)
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Jonathan Charles 
>>> wrote:

 OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email from Ben
 Ng telling me why...)

 It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and
 remarkably fair...

 I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary reason I
 didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or even what
 was broken...).

 I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell you what
 I expected it to be...)

 I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP

 And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie




 Jonathan
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>> This 

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[Jonathan Charles]

Please do not assume you will get the same feedback... I got this
because I had a potential hardware fault and it turned out I caused
the problem.


Jonathan

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Aamir
Panjwani wrote:
> Jonathan, the most interesting bit of this entire thread is that Ben Ng sent 
> you an email with explanation of why you failed!! CCIE exam is notorious for 
> not telling you exactly where you lost points. So this must be a massive help 
> for you. By the way is that some kind of a new process that every candidate 
> will get detailed report of reasons for failure or are you some sort of a VIP 
> customer for them :)
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com 
> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Charles
> Sent: Saturday, 1 August 2009 6:40 AM
> To: Brian Valentine
> Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>
> I know, in way too much detail, why I failed... I got an email from
> Ben Ng explaining it.
>
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Brian Valentine wrote:
>> I don't know what we expect Jonathan to tell us.  What we really want to ask
>> is something we don't really want to know and something he really can't tell
>> us anyway because of NDA.
>>
>> Jonathan, bummer that you failed.  It sounds like you know why you failed --
>> which is a very good thing.  Better luck on your next attempt.
>>
>> I will add this.  I took the R&S exam last year and passed on my first
>> attempt.  I also thought the exam was a fair test of knowledge and skill.
>> If you are well prepared in terms of understanding the technology deeply,
>> have a plan of how to attack your lab, and follow your plan, you certainly
>> CAN get 80 points in 8 hours.  Now, I realize it is a different exam, but I
>> would expect the voice exam to be similar in that it will be achievable.
>> Cisco doesn't want to know primarily that you can do stupid tricks with
>> routers and phones.  Now I haven't sat the voice lab exam yet, but I would
>> be extremely surprised and disappointed if there were 30 points of stupid
>> phone tricks.  Cisco wants to know that you understand the technology deeply
>> enough that you can configure to a set of complex requirements.  Bottom line
>> -- they want to know that you are an expert. To an expert the exam should
>> seem "easy".   Of course, you could always have a tricky question or two,
>> but remember that you don't need 100% to pass.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
>> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Damisch
>> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 2:17 PM
>> To: Jonathan Charles; Tanner Ezell
>> Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>>
>> Thanks for that last bit of info.  I will be sure to work on the [deleted by
>> NDA] topics.  Those are my weak areas.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Kevin
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
>> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan
>> Charles
>> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 1:05 PM
>> To: Tanner Ezell
>> Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>>
>> Well, the [deleted by NDA] was [deleted by NDA] than I expected, but
>> [deleted by NDA] was [deleted by NDA] and [deleted by NDA] was also
>> [deleted by NDA]
>>
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Tanner Ezell
>> wrote:
>>> So basically, you had thoughts, but can't share, and you did things, but
>> you
>>> cannot tell us
>>> So all in all, 
>>> :)
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Jonathan Charles 
>>> wrote:

 OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email from Ben
 Ng telling me why...)

 It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and
 remarkably fair...

 I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary reason I
 didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or even what
 was broken...).

 I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell you what
 I expected it to be...)

 I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP

 And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie




 Jonathan
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>>>
>>>
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 workbook?

[Tanner Ezell]

If waiting for 2 more weeks means we get the best, most complete product
then I'm all for that. I'd rather not try and rush the IPX guys or hassle
them to get it sooner if any aspect of the product (or service) suffers.
On that note, I'm still hoping for that download option.. *pretty please?*

:)

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Aamir Panjwani <
aamir.panjw...@ivision.com.au> wrote:

> Wayne, VOD will be shipping in 2 weeks? Mark said earlier this week VOD
> will be available for shipping this coming Monday?
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Wayne
> Lawson
> Sent: Saturday, 1 August 2009 11:22 AM
> To: Alex Hannah
> Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 workbook?
>
> Alex -
>
>  Volume 2 already has 2 labs available, but it's not free if
> you've bought Volume 1 (we have 2 different books - 1 & 2). The VOD
> will be shipping in 2 weeks, Audio in about 6 weeks (audio will be a
> completely different product than the VOD). Please reference our blog
> for updates / shipping dates or contact one of our training advisors
> directly.
>
> Regards,
>
> Wayne A. Lawson II - CCIE #5244
> Founder, President & CEO:
> - IPexpert, Inc.
> - Proctor Labs, Inc.
> - Platinum Solutions Group, LLC.
> Mailto: wlaw...@ipexpert.com
> Mobile: +1.810.334.1564
>
> :: Message sent from iPhone.
>
> On Jul 31, 2009, at 8:01 PM, Alex Hannah  wrote:
>
> > Vik or Mark,
> >
> > Just out of curiousity when will volume 2 be out?  If we purchased
> > version 1 workbook and proctor guide are we entitled to volume 2 as a
> > download?  Also are the audio and videos being updated as well?  Any
> > eta on those?
> >
> > Thanks a bunch...
> >
> > Alex
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 workbook?

[Aamir Panjwani]

Wayne, VOD will be shipping in 2 weeks? Mark said earlier this week VOD
will be available for shipping this coming Monday?



-Original Message-
From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Wayne
Lawson
Sent: Saturday, 1 August 2009 11:22 AM
To: Alex Hannah
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 workbook?

Alex -

  Volume 2 already has 2 labs available, but it's not free if  
you've bought Volume 1 (we have 2 different books - 1 & 2). The VOD  
will be shipping in 2 weeks, Audio in about 6 weeks (audio will be a  
completely different product than the VOD). Please reference our blog  
for updates / shipping dates or contact one of our training advisors  
directly.

Regards,

Wayne A. Lawson II - CCIE #5244
Founder, President & CEO:
- IPexpert, Inc.
- Proctor Labs, Inc.
- Platinum Solutions Group, LLC.
Mailto: wlaw...@ipexpert.com
Mobile: +1.810.334.1564

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On Jul 31, 2009, at 8:01 PM, Alex Hannah  wrote:

> Vik or Mark,
>
> Just out of curiousity when will volume 2 be out?  If we purchased
> version 1 workbook and proctor guide are we entitled to volume 2 as a
> download?  Also are the audio and videos being updated as well?  Any
> eta on those?
>
> Thanks a bunch...
>
> Alex
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 workbook?

[Tanner Ezell]

Afraid not! I think my receptor is broken..

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Vik Malhi  wrote:

>  You didn’t get the telepathic slides?
> --
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> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>
> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
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> R&S Lab, CCIE Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE Voice Lab and
> CCIE Storage Lab Certifications.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> *From: *Brian Valentine 
> *Date: *Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:49:27 -0400
> *To: *'Tanner Ezell' , 'Wayne Lawson' <
> groupst...@ipexpert.com>
> *Cc: *OSL Group , 'Alex Hannah' <
> alex.han...@gmail.com>
>
> *Subject: *Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 workbook?
>
> I concur.  Especially during the Gatekeeper training… Mark refers to “the
> slide” quite a bit.  I’m very excited about the audio training being a
> separate product.  Can’t wait to load it into my IPOD and transfer it to my
> brain.
>
> Keep up the good work.   Maybe I’ll be ready for my November lab attempt
> after all.
>
>
> *From:* ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [
> mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com]
> *On Behalf Of *Tanner Ezell
> *Sent:* Friday, July 31, 2009 9:31 PM
> *To:* Wayne Lawson
> *Cc:* ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; Alex Hannah
> *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 workbook?
>
> "Audio in about 6 weeks (audio will be a completely different product than
> the VOD)."
>
>
>
> I have to say I'm very happy to hear that Wayne! I was somewhat
> disappointed when I discovered the audio lectures were just the VOD audio
> portion!
>
>
>
> As always, thanks and keep being great :)
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Wayne Lawson 
> wrote:
> Alex -
>
>  Volume 2 already has 2 labs available, but it's not free if
> you've bought Volume 1 (we have 2 different books - 1 & 2). The VOD
> will be shipping in 2 weeks, Audio in about 6 weeks (audio will be a
> completely different product than the VOD). Please reference our blog
> for updates / shipping dates or contact one of our training advisors
> directly.
>
> Regards,
>
> Wayne A. Lawson II - CCIE #5244
> Founder, President & CEO:
> - IPexpert, Inc.
> - Proctor Labs, Inc.
> - Platinum Solutions Group, LLC.
> Mailto: wlaw...@ipexpert.com
> Mobile: +1.810.334.1564
>
> :: Message sent from iPhone.
>
>
> On Jul 31, 2009, at 8:01 PM, Alex Hannah  wrote:
>
> > Vik or Mark,
> >
> > Just out of curiousity when will volume 2 be out?  If we purchased
> > version 1 workbook and proctor guide are we entitled to volume 2 as a
> > download?  Also are the audio and videos being updated as well?  Any
> > eta on those?
> >
> > Thanks a bunch...
> >
> > Alex
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 workbook?

[Vik Malhi]

You didn¹t get the telepathic slides?
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From: Brian Valentine 
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:49:27 -0400
To: 'Tanner Ezell' , 'Wayne Lawson'

Cc: OSL Group , 'Alex Hannah'

Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 workbook?

I concur.  Especially during the Gatekeeper trainingŠ Mark refers to ³the
slide² quite a bit.  I¹m very excited about the audio training being a
separate product.  Can¹t wait to load it into my IPOD and transfer it to my
brain.
 
Keep up the good work.   Maybe I¹ll be ready for my November lab attempt
after all.  
 

From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Tanner Ezell
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 9:31 PM
To: Wayne Lawson
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; Alex Hannah
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 workbook?
 
"Audio in about 6 weeks (audio will be a completely different product than
the VOD)."

 

I have to say I'm very happy to hear that Wayne! I was somewhat disappointed
when I discovered the audio lectures were just the VOD audio portion!

 

As always, thanks and keep being great :)

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Wayne Lawson 
wrote:
Alex -

 Volume 2 already has 2 labs available, but it's not free if
you've bought Volume 1 (we have 2 different books - 1 & 2). The VOD
will be shipping in 2 weeks, Audio in about 6 weeks (audio will be a
completely different product than the VOD). Please reference our blog
for updates / shipping dates or contact one of our training advisors
directly.

Regards,

Wayne A. Lawson II - CCIE #5244
Founder, President & CEO:
- IPexpert, Inc.
- Proctor Labs, Inc.
- Platinum Solutions Group, LLC.
Mailto: wlaw...@ipexpert.com
Mobile: +1.810.334.1564

:: Message sent from iPhone.


On Jul 31, 2009, at 8:01 PM, Alex Hannah  wrote:

> Vik or Mark,
>
> Just out of curiousity when will volume 2 be out?  If we purchased
> version 1 workbook and proctor guide are we entitled to volume 2 as a
> download?  Also are the audio and videos being updated as well?  Any
> eta on those?
>
> Thanks a bunch...
>
> Alex
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> please visit www.ipexpert.com 
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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] LAB9: CME Extn Mobility

[oliver rodrigues]

Hi,

I tried to configure the Extn Mobilty for CME but after login, it
continlusly shows me update profile .
I don't see the Phone Extn.
Has this worked for you all,Let me know.


telephony-service

max-ephones 4

max-dn 5 no-reg

ip source-address 10.10.110.3 port 2000

auto assign 1 to 2

auto assign 3 to 4

time-zone 26

date-format dd-mm-yy

max-conferences 8 gain -6

moh en_bacd_music_on_hold.au

transfer-system full-consult

create cnf-files version-stamp 7960 Jul 31 2009 18:41:17

!

!

ephone-dn 1 dual-line

number 3001 no-reg primary

label BR2-Phone1-3001

description 32143001

name BR2-Phone1

corlist outgoing BR2-P1

!

!

ephone-dn 2 dual-line

number 3002 no-reg primary

label BR2-Phone2-3002

description 32143002

!

!

ephone-dn 3 octo-line

number 3666

!

!

ephone-dn 5

number 53...

call-forward all 3002

!

!

ephone 1

mac-address 0200.4C4F.4F50

max-calls-per-button 5

busy-trigger-per-button 3

type CIPC

button 1:3

!

!

!

ephone 2

mac-address 0016.4154.FAA1

max-calls-per-button 5

busy-trigger-per-button 3

type 7960

button 1:2

!

!

!

ephone 3

mac-address 0017.5AF0.2859

type 7911

logout-profile 1

!

Thanks,

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 workbook?

[c george]

when will v3 voice lab book 2 be completed and cost if known

Respectfully Charles George


 


From: groupst...@ipexpert.com
To: tanner.ez...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:53:34 -0400
CC: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; alex.han...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 workbook?


You're welcome! ;-)

Regards,


Wayne A. Lawson II - CCIE #5244
Founder, President & CEO:
- IPexpert, Inc. 
- Proctor Labs, Inc.
- Platinum Solutions Group, LLC. 
Mailto: wlaw...@ipexpert.com
Mobile: +1.810.334.1564


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On Jul 31, 2009, at 9:31 PM, Tanner Ezell  wrote:




"Audio in about 6 weeks (audio will be a completely different product than the 
VOD)."


I have to say I'm very happy to hear that Wayne! I was somewhat disappointed 
when I discovered the audio lectures were just the VOD audio portion!


As always, thanks and keep being great :)


On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Wayne Lawson  wrote:

Alex -

 Volume 2 already has 2 labs available, but it's not free if
you've bought Volume 1 (we have 2 different books - 1 & 2). The VOD
will be shipping in 2 weeks, Audio in about 6 weeks (audio will be a
completely different product than the VOD). Please reference our blog
for updates / shipping dates or contact one of our training advisors
directly.

Regards,

Wayne A. Lawson II - CCIE #5244
Founder, President & CEO:
- IPexpert, Inc.
- Proctor Labs, Inc.
- Platinum Solutions Group, LLC.
Mailto: wlaw...@ipexpert.com
Mobile: +1.810.334.1564

:: Message sent from iPhone.




On Jul 31, 2009, at 8:01 PM, Alex Hannah  wrote:

> Vik or Mark,
>
> Just out of curiousity when will volume 2 be out?  If we purchased
> version 1 workbook and proctor guide are we entitled to volume 2 as a
> download?  Also are the audio and videos being updated as well?  Any
> eta on those?
>
> Thanks a bunch...
>
> Alex
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 workbook?

[Wayne Lawson]

You're welcome! ;-)

Regards,

Wayne A. Lawson II - CCIE #5244
Founder, President & CEO:
- IPexpert, Inc.
- Proctor Labs, Inc.
- Platinum Solutions Group, LLC.
Mailto: wlaw...@ipexpert.com
Mobile: +1.810.334.1564

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On Jul 31, 2009, at 9:31 PM, Tanner Ezell   
wrote:


"Audio in about 6 weeks (audio will be a completely different  
product than the VOD)."


I have to say I'm very happy to hear that Wayne! I was somewhat  
disappointed when I discovered the audio lectures were just the VOD  
audio portion!


As always, thanks and keep being great :)

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Wayne Lawson  
 wrote:

Alex -

 Volume 2 already has 2 labs available, but it's not free if
you've bought Volume 1 (we have 2 different books - 1 & 2). The VOD
will be shipping in 2 weeks, Audio in about 6 weeks (audio will be a
completely different product than the VOD). Please reference our blog
for updates / shipping dates or contact one of our training advisors
directly.

Regards,

Wayne A. Lawson II - CCIE #5244
Founder, President & CEO:
- IPexpert, Inc.
- Proctor Labs, Inc.
- Platinum Solutions Group, LLC.
Mailto: wlaw...@ipexpert.com
Mobile: +1.810.334.1564

:: Message sent from iPhone.

On Jul 31, 2009, at 8:01 PM, Alex Hannah   
wrote:


> Vik or Mark,
>
> Just out of curiousity when will volume 2 be out?  If we purchased
> version 1 workbook and proctor guide are we entitled to volume 2  
as a

> download?  Also are the audio and videos being updated as well?  Any
> eta on those?
>
> Thanks a bunch...
>
> Alex
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 workbook?

[Brian Valentine]

I concur.  Especially during the Gatekeeper training. Mark refers to "the
slide" quite a bit.  I'm very excited about the audio training being a
separate product.  Can't wait to load it into my IPOD and transfer it to my
brain.

 

Keep up the good work.   Maybe I'll be ready for my November lab attempt
after all.  

 

From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Tanner Ezell
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 9:31 PM
To: Wayne Lawson
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; Alex Hannah
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 workbook?

 

"Audio in about 6 weeks (audio will be a completely different product than
the VOD)."

 

I have to say I'm very happy to hear that Wayne! I was somewhat disappointed
when I discovered the audio lectures were just the VOD audio portion!

 

As always, thanks and keep being great :)

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Wayne Lawson 
wrote:

Alex -

 Volume 2 already has 2 labs available, but it's not free if
you've bought Volume 1 (we have 2 different books - 1 & 2). The VOD
will be shipping in 2 weeks, Audio in about 6 weeks (audio will be a
completely different product than the VOD). Please reference our blog
for updates / shipping dates or contact one of our training advisors
directly.

Regards,

Wayne A. Lawson II - CCIE #5244
Founder, President & CEO:
- IPexpert, Inc.
- Proctor Labs, Inc.
- Platinum Solutions Group, LLC.
Mailto: wlaw...@ipexpert.com
Mobile: +1.810.334.1564

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On Jul 31, 2009, at 8:01 PM, Alex Hannah  wrote:

> Vik or Mark,
>
> Just out of curiousity when will volume 2 be out?  If we purchased
> version 1 workbook and proctor guide are we entitled to volume 2 as a
> download?  Also are the audio and videos being updated as well?  Any
> eta on those?
>
> Thanks a bunch...
>
> Alex
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ___
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> please visit www.ipexpert.com
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visit www.ipexpert.com

 

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 workbook?

[Tanner Ezell]

"Audio in about 6 weeks (audio will be a completely different product than
the VOD)."
I have to say I'm very happy to hear that Wayne! I was somewhat disappointed
when I discovered the audio lectures were just the VOD audio portion!

As always, thanks and keep being great :)

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Wayne Lawson wrote:

> Alex -
>
>  Volume 2 already has 2 labs available, but it's not free if
> you've bought Volume 1 (we have 2 different books - 1 & 2). The VOD
> will be shipping in 2 weeks, Audio in about 6 weeks (audio will be a
> completely different product than the VOD). Please reference our blog
> for updates / shipping dates or contact one of our training advisors
> directly.
>
> Regards,
>
> Wayne A. Lawson II - CCIE #5244
> Founder, President & CEO:
> - IPexpert, Inc.
> - Proctor Labs, Inc.
> - Platinum Solutions Group, LLC.
> Mailto: wlaw...@ipexpert.com
> Mobile: +1.810.334.1564
>
> :: Message sent from iPhone.
>
> On Jul 31, 2009, at 8:01 PM, Alex Hannah  wrote:
>
> > Vik or Mark,
> >
> > Just out of curiousity when will volume 2 be out?  If we purchased
> > version 1 workbook and proctor guide are we entitled to volume 2 as a
> > download?  Also are the audio and videos being updated as well?  Any
> > eta on those?
> >
> > Thanks a bunch...
> >
> > Alex
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 workbook?

[Wayne Lawson]

Alex -

  Volume 2 already has 2 labs available, but it's not free if  
you've bought Volume 1 (we have 2 different books - 1 & 2). The VOD  
will be shipping in 2 weeks, Audio in about 6 weeks (audio will be a  
completely different product than the VOD). Please reference our blog  
for updates / shipping dates or contact one of our training advisors  
directly.

Regards,

Wayne A. Lawson II - CCIE #5244
Founder, President & CEO:
- IPexpert, Inc.
- Proctor Labs, Inc.
- Platinum Solutions Group, LLC.
Mailto: wlaw...@ipexpert.com
Mobile: +1.810.334.1564

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On Jul 31, 2009, at 8:01 PM, Alex Hannah  wrote:

> Vik or Mark,
>
> Just out of curiousity when will volume 2 be out?  If we purchased
> version 1 workbook and proctor guide are we entitled to volume 2 as a
> download?  Also are the audio and videos being updated as well?  Any
> eta on those?
>
> Thanks a bunch...
>
> Alex
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 workbook?

[Alex Hannah]

Vik or Mark,

Just out of curiousity when will volume 2 be out?  If we purchased  
version 1 workbook and proctor guide are we entitled to volume 2 as a  
download?  Also are the audio and videos being updated as well?  Any  
eta on those?

Thanks a bunch...

Alex

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[Aamir Panjwani]

Jonathan, the most interesting bit of this entire thread is that Ben Ng sent 
you an email with explanation of why you failed!! CCIE exam is notorious for 
not telling you exactly where you lost points. So this must be a massive help 
for you. By the way is that some kind of a new process that every candidate 
will get detailed report of reasons for failure or are you some sort of a VIP 
customer for them :)



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From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com 
[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Charles
Sent: Saturday, 1 August 2009 6:40 AM
To: Brian Valentine
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

I know, in way too much detail, why I failed... I got an email from
Ben Ng explaining it.


Jonathan

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Brian Valentine wrote:
> I don't know what we expect Jonathan to tell us.  What we really want to ask
> is something we don't really want to know and something he really can't tell
> us anyway because of NDA.
>
> Jonathan, bummer that you failed.  It sounds like you know why you failed --
> which is a very good thing.  Better luck on your next attempt.
>
> I will add this.  I took the R&S exam last year and passed on my first
> attempt.  I also thought the exam was a fair test of knowledge and skill.
> If you are well prepared in terms of understanding the technology deeply,
> have a plan of how to attack your lab, and follow your plan, you certainly
> CAN get 80 points in 8 hours.  Now, I realize it is a different exam, but I
> would expect the voice exam to be similar in that it will be achievable.
> Cisco doesn't want to know primarily that you can do stupid tricks with
> routers and phones.  Now I haven't sat the voice lab exam yet, but I would
> be extremely surprised and disappointed if there were 30 points of stupid
> phone tricks.  Cisco wants to know that you understand the technology deeply
> enough that you can configure to a set of complex requirements.  Bottom line
> -- they want to know that you are an expert. To an expert the exam should
> seem "easy".   Of course, you could always have a tricky question or two,
> but remember that you don't need 100% to pass.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Damisch
> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 2:17 PM
> To: Jonathan Charles; Tanner Ezell
> Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>
> Thanks for that last bit of info.  I will be sure to work on the [deleted by
> NDA] topics.  Those are my weak areas.
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan
> Charles
> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 1:05 PM
> To: Tanner Ezell
> Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>
> Well, the [deleted by NDA] was [deleted by NDA] than I expected, but
> [deleted by NDA] was [deleted by NDA] and [deleted by NDA] was also
> [deleted by NDA]
>
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Tanner Ezell
> wrote:
>> So basically, you had thoughts, but can't share, and you did things, but
> you
>> cannot tell us
>> So all in all, 
>> :)
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Jonathan Charles 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email from Ben
>>> Ng telling me why...)
>>>
>>> It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and
>>> remarkably fair...
>>>
>>> I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary reason I
>>> didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or even what
>>> was broken...).
>>>
>>> I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell you what
>>> I expected it to be...)
>>>
>>> I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP
>>>
>>> And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jonathan
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[Thomas Koch]

Good post.

I had a co-worker that passed the V2 lab about a year ago and he was
disappointed that half of the technology was outdated.

He was a systems engineer for a major Cisco partner.

T 

 

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Owner/Consultant 
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[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Nara Shikamaru
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 4:25 PM
To: Michael Ciarfello
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

 

The v2 exam, in the end, had become absurd.  I remember when I was studying
for it that it felt like the v2 practical was testing the candidate on how
to take a test.  The ATA focus was rediculous.  An extrememly light argument
could be made for the 6608, but not the CatOS, sorry.  When it was announced
that v3 would remove these pieces, it seemed like it was put together
reasonably and it was pushing the candidate toward mastery in areas of the
technology that were relevant.  So far, it seems that what is left is an
exam that covers topics an expert really should know.  Also, frankly, the
fact that the topology can be built completely in a home lab is a VERY big
deal (still expensive, but justifiable and will remain a lab that can be
used for years to come.)  If Cisco's goal was to encourage the candidate to
master topics on a fundamental level, it feels like they're on the right
track by aligning these stars.  Even when you fail the test, you feel that
whatever you learned  is marketable in the real world and, therefore,
valuable to the professional.

 

I hope Cisco does not get carried away and makes changes before a year has
passed.  It's a new exam and it takes time for people to study and work
through the technology that was initially announced, nevermind the time and
expense to IPexpert as a training partner.

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Michael Ciarfello 
wrote:

Makes me want to try the exam earlier, but I'm going to stick to my plan.
December is re-take of one-week lab experience and I'm targeting for
February for the exam.  Small risk of AD/DNS/VPIM being put back on the exam
by that time, but so what?  AD makes CUP EASIER.  VPIM is no big deal.

 

Yea, no 6608 with the messed up QoS, no VG248 (easy, but end of sale for a
long time so don't get to touch it in real and too expensive to have in a
lab.)  No ATA (the most messed up piece of c**p I've ever seen.).  

 

It seemed Cisco was at witts end on the V2 and started to put in questions
that were just PUZZLES just to make it harder and try to beat out all the
cheating sites.  Seems today they are trying to get rid of said sites.   The
open ended questions might get rid of "those" types of people who
concentrate on getting the configurations done and not studying the theory,
etc.  So I hope you are right and the exam stays a breath of fresh air and a
test of knowledge and skill instead of putting a jig saw puzzle together.

 

From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Nara Shikamaru
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 2:05 PM
To: Tanner Ezell 


Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

 

Well, I appreciate the feedback.  The V2 exam was renown for its
frustrations.  I'm happy to hear that v3 is a test of knowledge and skill.
I decided to wait until V3 so that I didn't have to deal with studying
techniques that are irrelevant in the real world, like esoteric knowledge of
ATA hex code settings and CatOS.  Where I live, only one shop still used
CatOS and last week they filed for bankruptcy.  The 3750 as the HQ switch
was a godsend, I can afford to buy this thing and spend days learnining in
my home lab.  V3's equipment changes were the smartest thing Cisco's done in
it's cert track.  

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Tanner Ezell 
wrote:

So basically, you had thoughts, but can't share, and you did things, but you
cannot tell us 

 

So all in all, 

 

:) 

 

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Jonathan Charles 
wrote:

OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email from Ben
Ng telling me why...)

It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and
remarkably fair...

I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary reason I
didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or even what
was broken...).

I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell you what
I expected it to be...)

I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP

And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie




Jonathan
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visit www.ipexpert.com  

 


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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[Vik Malhi]

Well at least you have the evidence for safe keeping:-)

Vik Malhi - CCIE#13890
Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert Inc

Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
Fax: +1.810.454.0130
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On Jul 31, 2009, at 3:55 PM, Jonathan Charles  wrote:

> Not a rat.
>
> However, they know who they are... and the post made them leave me  
> alone.
>
>
>
> J
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Olayemi
> Salau wrote:
>> If I were you, I will list the names of the dumps seekers! God no  
>> wonder
>> Cisco moved swiftly to add 30mins qualifying exams before the lab  
>> itself.
>>
>> Guys, get back to ur labs and stop pestering Jon, it makes me sick!
>> Honestly, I've had to turn on my daily digest because of this :)
>>
>> On 31 Jul 2009, at 21:40, Jonathan Charles wrote:
>>
>>> This was not even slightly directed at you...
>>>
>>> I got at least 30 emails privately asking me for a point by point
>>> braindump of the exam.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Jason Granat  
>>> wrote:

 I just asked how the IPExpert workbooks compared. I wasn't asking  
 for
 specifics. Sorry if I offended you.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jonathan Charles [mailto:jonv...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 1:29 PM
 To: Vik Malhi
 Cc: Jason Granat; OSL Group
 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

 Your welcome, though I would like to reply to the entire group:

 Stop asking me what is specifically on the test.

 I am not going to tell you




 Jonathan

 On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Vik Malhi  
 wrote:
>
> Thanks for sharing the info Jonathan.
>
> From what we heard at networkers during the techtorial we  
> believe we are
> missing a few technologies too and we have been working hard to
> incorporate
> anything that is currently lacking into our WB.
>
> I don't want to be cryptic and it is unfair to ask DIRECT  
> questions to
> somebody who has recently sat the lab although I'm sure you all  
> want a
> braindump from Jonathan:-) JK.
>
> --
> Vik Malhi  CCIE #13890
> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>
> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
> Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com
>
>
> Join our free online support and peer group communities:
> http://www.IPexpert.com/communities
> IPexpert - The Global Leader in Self-Study, Classroom-Based,
> Video-On-Demand
> and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco CCIE R&S  
> Lab, CCIE
> Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE Voice Lab and CCIE
> Storage
> Lab Certifications.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> From: Jonathan Charles 
>> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:06:13 -0500
>> To: Jason Granat 
>> Cc: OSL Group 
>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>>
>> The Volume 1 workbook was good, but was missing something very
>> important (perhaps, sort of... could be, maybe)  which will
>> supposedly be in volume 2...
>>
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Jason Granat  
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Maybe you could give us your opinion on how much you think the
>>> IPExpert
>>> Workbooks helped prepare you?
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
>>> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of  
>>> Jonathan
>>> Charles
>>> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 10:21 AM
>>> To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
>>> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>>>
>>> OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email  
>>> from Ben
>>> Ng telling me why...)
>>>
>>> It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and
>>> remarkably fair...
>>>
>>> I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary  
>>> reason I
>>> didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or  
>>> even what
>>> was broken...).
>>>
>>> I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell  
>>> you what
>>> I expected it to be...)
>>>
>>> I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP
>>>
>>> And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>> ___
>>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab  
>>> training,
>>> please
>>> visit www.ipexpert.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://slash128.com
>>>
>> ___
>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab  
>> training,
>> please
>> visit www.ip

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[Jonathan Charles]

Not a rat.

However, they know who they are... and the post made them leave me alone.



J

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Olayemi
Salau wrote:
> If I were you, I will list the names of the dumps seekers! God no wonder
> Cisco moved swiftly to add 30mins qualifying exams before the lab itself.
>
> Guys, get back to ur labs and stop pestering Jon, it makes me sick!
> Honestly, I've had to turn on my daily digest because of this :)
>
> On 31 Jul 2009, at 21:40, Jonathan Charles wrote:
>
>> This was not even slightly directed at you...
>>
>> I got at least 30 emails privately asking me for a point by point
>> braindump of the exam.
>>
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Jason Granat wrote:
>>>
>>> I just asked how the IPExpert workbooks compared. I wasn't asking for
>>> specifics. Sorry if I offended you.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Jonathan Charles [mailto:jonv...@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 1:29 PM
>>> To: Vik Malhi
>>> Cc: Jason Granat; OSL Group
>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>>>
>>> Your welcome, though I would like to reply to the entire group:
>>>
>>> Stop asking me what is specifically on the test.
>>>
>>> I am not going to tell you
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Vik Malhi wrote:

 Thanks for sharing the info Jonathan.

 From what we heard at networkers during the techtorial we believe we are
 missing a few technologies too and we have been working hard to
 incorporate
 anything that is currently lacking into our WB.

 I don't want to be cryptic and it is unfair to ask DIRECT questions to
 somebody who has recently sat the lab although I'm sure you all want a
 braindump from Jonathan:-) JK.

 --
 Vik Malhi  CCIE #13890
 Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

 Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
 Fax: +1.810.454.0130
 Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com


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 Video-On-Demand
 and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco CCIE R&S Lab, CCIE
 Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE Voice Lab and CCIE
 Storage
 Lab Certifications.







> From: Jonathan Charles 
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:06:13 -0500
> To: Jason Granat 
> Cc: OSL Group 
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>
> The Volume 1 workbook was good, but was missing something very
> important (perhaps, sort of... could be, maybe)  which will
> supposedly be in volume 2...
>
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Jason Granat wrote:
>>
>> Maybe you could give us your opinion on how much you think the
>> IPExpert
>> Workbooks helped prepare you?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
>> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan
>> Charles
>> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 10:21 AM
>> To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
>> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>>
>> OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email from Ben
>> Ng telling me why...)
>>
>> It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and
>> remarkably fair...
>>
>> I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary reason I
>> didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or even what
>> was broken...).
>>
>> I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell you what
>> I expected it to be...)
>>
>> I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP
>>
>> And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jonathan
>> ___
>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
>> please
>> visit www.ipexpert.com
>>
>>
>>
>> http://slash128.com
>>
> ___
> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
> please
> visit www.ipexpert.com



>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://slash128.com
>>>
>> ___
>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please
>> visit www.ipexpert.com
>
>
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[Jonathan Charles]

Well, after reading the CCIE Blog and seeing what is going to be added
in 9 months or so scares the crap out of me, DNS, AD, SIP providers,
and god knows what else (security?)...

The test is much easier now than it will be... I can see a Presence
question telling you to integrate it with an offnet OCS box... or a
CUCCX with a Campaign...


Jonathan

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Vik Malhi wrote:
> I would recommend people sit the lab sooner rather than later. The shape of
> the exam in its present state versus 6 –9 months will be very different. As
> the lab matures variation will increase and inevitably it will be more
> difficult.
>
> This is all idle Friday afternoon speculation off course.
>
> --
> Vik Malhi – CCIE #13890
> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>
> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
> Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com
>
>
> Join our free online support and peer group communities:
> http://www.IPexpert.com/communities
> IPexpert - The Global Leader in Self-Study, Classroom-Based, Video-On-Demand
> and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco CCIE R&S Lab, CCIE
> Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE Voice Lab and CCIE Storage
> Lab Certifications.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Michael Ciarfello 
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:25:55 -0400
> To: Nara Shikamaru , Tanner Ezell
> 
> Cc: OSL Group 
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>
> It seemed Cisco was at witts end on the V2 and started to put in questions
> that were just PUZZLES just to make it harder and try to beat out all the
> cheating sites.  Seems today they are trying to get rid of said sites.  The
> open ended questions might get rid of “those” types of people who
> concentrate on getting the configurations done and not studying the theory,
> etc.  So I hope you are right and the exam stays a breath of fresh air and a
> test of knowledge and skill instead of putting a jig saw puzzle together.
>
> ___
> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please
> visit www.ipexpert.com
>
>
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[Olayemi Salau]

If I were you, I will list the names of the dumps seekers! God no  
wonder Cisco moved swiftly to add 30mins qualifying exams before the  
lab itself.

Guys, get back to ur labs and stop pestering Jon, it makes me sick!  
Honestly, I've had to turn on my daily digest because of this :)

On 31 Jul 2009, at 21:40, Jonathan Charles wrote:

> This was not even slightly directed at you...
>
> I got at least 30 emails privately asking me for a point by point
> braindump of the exam.
>
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Jason Granat wrote:
>> I just asked how the IPExpert workbooks compared. I wasn't asking  
>> for specifics. Sorry if I offended you.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jonathan Charles [mailto:jonv...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 1:29 PM
>> To: Vik Malhi
>> Cc: Jason Granat; OSL Group
>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>>
>> Your welcome, though I would like to reply to the entire group:
>>
>> Stop asking me what is specifically on the test.
>>
>> I am not going to tell you
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Vik Malhi  
>> wrote:
>>> Thanks for sharing the info Jonathan.
>>>
>>> From what we heard at networkers during the techtorial we believe  
>>> we are
>>> missing a few technologies too and we have been working hard to  
>>> incorporate
>>> anything that is currently lacking into our WB.
>>>
>>> I don't want to be cryptic and it is unfair to ask DIRECT  
>>> questions to
>>> somebody who has recently sat the lab although I'm sure you all  
>>> want a
>>> braindump from Jonathan:-) JK.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Vik Malhi  CCIE #13890
>>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>>>
>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
>>> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
>>> Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Join our free online support and peer group communities:
>>> http://www.IPexpert.com/communities
>>> IPexpert - The Global Leader in Self-Study, Classroom-Based,  
>>> Video-On-Demand
>>> and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco CCIE R&S  
>>> Lab, CCIE
>>> Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE Voice Lab and CCIE  
>>> Storage
>>> Lab Certifications.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
 From: Jonathan Charles 
 Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:06:13 -0500
 To: Jason Granat 
 Cc: OSL Group 
 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

 The Volume 1 workbook was good, but was missing something very
 important (perhaps, sort of... could be, maybe)  which will
 supposedly be in volume 2...


 Jonathan

 On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Jason Granat  
 wrote:
> Maybe you could give us your opinion on how much you think the  
> IPExpert
> Workbooks helped prepare you?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of  
> Jonathan Charles
> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 10:21 AM
> To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>
> OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email  
> from Ben
> Ng telling me why...)
>
> It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and
> remarkably fair...
>
> I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary  
> reason I
> didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or  
> even what
> was broken...).
>
> I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell  
> you what
> I expected it to be...)
>
> I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP
>
> And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie
>
>
>
>
> Jonathan
> ___
> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab  
> training, please
> visit www.ipexpert.com
>
>
>
> http://slash128.com
>
 ___
 For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab  
 training, please
 visit www.ipexpert.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://slash128.com
>>
> ___
> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,  
> please visit www.ipexpert.com

___
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[Nara Shikamaru]

The v2 exam, in the end, had become absurd.  I remember when I was studying
for it that it felt like the v2 practical was testing the candidate on how
to take a test.  The ATA focus was rediculous.  An extrememly light argument
could be made for the 6608, but not the CatOS, sorry.  When it was announced
that v3 would remove these pieces, it seemed like it was put together
reasonably and it was pushing the candidate toward mastery in areas of the
technology that were relevant.  So far, it seems that what is left is an
exam that covers topics an expert really should know.  Also, frankly, the
fact that the topology can be built completely in a home lab is a VERY big
deal (still expensive, but justifiable and will remain a lab that can be
used for years to come.)  If Cisco's goal was to encourage the candidate to
master topics on a fundamental level, it feels like they're on the right
track by aligning these stars.  Even when you fail the test, you feel that
whatever you learned  is marketable in the real world and, therefore,
valuable to the professional.

I hope Cisco does not get carried away and makes changes before a year has
passed.  It's a new exam and it takes time for people to study and work
through the technology that was initially announced, nevermind the time and
expense to IPexpert as a training partner.

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Michael Ciarfello
wrote:

>  Makes me want to try the exam earlier, but I’m going to stick to my
> plan.  December is re-take of one-week lab experience and I’m targeting for
> February for the exam.  Small risk of AD/DNS/VPIM being put back on the exam
> by that time, but so what?  AD makes CUP EASIER.  VPIM is no big deal.
>
>
>
> Yea, no 6608 with the messed up QoS, no VG248 (easy, but end of sale for a
> long time so don’t get to touch it in real and too expensive to have in a
> lab.)  No ATA (the most messed up piece of c**p I’ve ever seen.).
>
>
>
> It seemed Cisco was at witts end on the V2 and started to put in questions
> that were just PUZZLES just to make it harder and try to beat out all the
> cheating sites.  Seems today they are trying to get rid of said sites.   The
> open ended questions might get rid of “those” types of people who
> concentrate on getting the configurations done and not studying the theory,
> etc.  So I hope you are right and the exam stays a breath of fresh air and a
> test of knowledge and skill instead of putting a jig saw puzzle together.
>
>
>
> *From:* ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:
> ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] *On Behalf Of *Nara Shikamaru
> *Sent:* Friday, July 31, 2009 2:05 PM
> *To:* Tanner Ezell
> *Cc:* ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
> *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>
>
>
> Well, I appreciate the feedback.  The V2 exam was renown for its
> frustrations.  I'm happy to hear that v3 is a test of knowledge and skill.
> I decided to wait until V3 so that I didn't have to deal with studying
> techniques that are irrelevant in the real world, like esoteric knowledge of
> ATA hex code settings and CatOS.  Where I live, only one shop still used
> CatOS and last week they filed for bankruptcy.  The 3750 as the HQ switch
> was a godsend, I can afford to buy this thing and spend days learnining in
> my home lab.  V3's equipment changes were the smartest thing Cisco's done in
> it's cert track.
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Tanner Ezell 
> wrote:
>
> So basically, you had thoughts, but can't share, and you did things, but
> you cannot tell us
>
>
>
> So all in all, 
>
>
>
> :)
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Jonathan Charles 
> wrote:
>
> OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email from Ben
> Ng telling me why...)
>
> It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and
> remarkably fair...
>
> I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary reason I
> didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or even what
> was broken...).
>
> I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell you what
> I expected it to be...)
>
> I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP
>
> And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie
>
>
>
>
> Jonathan
> ___
> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please
> visit www.ipexpert.com
>
>
>
>
> ___
> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please
> visit www.ipexpert.com
>
>
>
>
> --
> -Shikamaru
>



-- 
-Shikamaru
___
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www.ipexpert.com

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[Vik Malhi]

Nice post Tim.

4.02 T1/E1 CAS
Vik: Not in the works for the time being

4.07 IP-IP Gateway/CUBE
Vik: Vol 2 lab #1 covers this

10.01 L2 Traffic Classifications and Policing
10.02 L2 Queuing Mechanisms
10.03 L2 LFI
Vik: L2 LFI covered in vol 1 and in every vol 2 lab release so far. L2
queueing/classification coming  up.


12.03 Redundancy (CCX)
Vik: No plans on a second CCX server.

One of the things mentioned at Networkers- and I always have to refer back
to this session- was that a single CCIE V lab will not test ALL the topics.
In version 2 every lab had all the items listed under the blueptint
(CUE/Unity/CCX/CME/etc/etc) but in the v3 labs there is enough content to
mix it up a bit more. The speaker gave an example- some labs at some point
in the future will contain NO UCM at all!!!

We will try and reflect these statements in our vol 2 labs. Some will
contain no UCM and focus heavily around CME and vice versa. Some will
contain no CUPS and focus more on other applications. Some will contain no
CCX...etc. You get the idea.

We aim to cover all technologies in our labs and let me tell you why. When
we released our version 2 WB in early 2006 we covered BACD, VPIM, CUBE, etc,
etc. Some of these topics were not tested for years, some of these topics
were never tested. We were accused of ³over preparing² at the time in the
politest possible way. What would have been the impact of never covering
BACD and VPIM? You can only search forums to see how heavily these two
topics featured in the latter part of the version 2 lifetime. (Or ask Mark
Rocky or Mikael Jackson:-)

The point I am making is this: each lab released by Cisco will cover a
subset of the technology mentioned on the blueprint. You will hear rumors
over the next few weeks and months that there are no SIP phones or no SCCP
phones or no CUPS or no UC  or no QOS,etc...The rumors might be true based
on the lab you get but I think Cisco do a good job at recognizing when a
particular technology has been exhausted and at that time they will
introduce new material from the blueprint into the exam.


-- 
Vik Malhi ­ CCIE #13890
Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
Fax: +1.810.454.0130
Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com


Join our free online support and peer group communities:
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and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco CCIE R&S Lab, CCIE
Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE Voice Lab and CCIE Storage
Lab Certifications.








From: Tim T 
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:37:16 -0400
To: Vik Malhi 
Cc: OSL Group 
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

Vik - A while ago I lined up the Volume 1 workbook with the blueprint.  I
highlighted these topics for further studying. 
 
4.02 T1/E1 CAS
4.07 IP-IP Gateway/CUBE
10.01 L2 Traffic Classifications and Policing
10.02 L2 Queuing Mechanisms
10.03 L2 LFI
12.03 Redundancy (CCX)
 
I've touched most of them, except the CUBE.  Based on what you heard at
Networkers, are there other topics you'd recommend for self study?
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Vik Malhi  wrote:
> Thanks for sharing the info Jonathan.
> 
> From what we heard at networkers during the techtorial we believe we are
> missing a few technologies too and we have been working hard to incorporate
> anything that is currently lacking into our WB.
> 
> I don't want to be cryptic and it is unfair to ask DIRECT questions to
> somebody who has recently sat the lab although I'm sure you all want a
> braindump from Jonathan:-) JK.
> 
> --
> Vik Malhi ­ CCIE #13890
> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
> 
> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
> Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com
> 
> 
> Join our free online support and peer group communities:
> http://www.IPexpert.com/communities
> IPexpert - The Global Leader in Self-Study, Classroom-Based, Video-On-Demand
> and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco CCIE R&S Lab, CCIE
> Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE Voice Lab and CCIE Storage
> Lab Certifications.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> > From: Jonathan Charles 
>> > Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:06:13 -0500
>> > To: Jason Granat 
>> > Cc: OSL Group 
>> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>> >
>> > The Volume 1 workbook was good, but was missing something very
>> > important (perhaps, sort of... could be, maybe)  which will
>> > supposedly be in volume 2...
>> >
>> >
>> > Jonathan
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Jason Granat wrote:
>>> >> Maybe you could give us your opinion on how much you think the IPExpert
>>> >> Workbooks helped prepare you?
>>> >>
>>> >> -Original Message-
>>> >> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
>>> >> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan
>>> Charles
>>> >> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 10:21 AM
>>> >> To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
>>> >> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thou

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[Vik Malhi]

I would recommend people sit the lab sooner rather than later. The shape of
the exam in its present state versus 6 ­9 months will be very different. As
the lab matures variation will increase and inevitably it will be more
difficult. 

This is all idle Friday afternoon speculation off course.

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Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

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From: Michael Ciarfello 
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:25:55 -0400
To: Nara Shikamaru , Tanner Ezell

Cc: OSL Group 
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

It seemed Cisco was at witts end on the V2 and started to put in questions
that were just PUZZLES just to make it harder and try to beat out all the
cheating sites.  Seems today they are trying to get rid of said sites.  The
open ended questions might get rid of ³those² types of people who
concentrate on getting the configurations done and not studying the theory,
etc.  So I hope you are right and the exam stays a breath of fresh air and a
test of knowledge and skill instead of putting a jig saw puzzle together.

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[Jason Granat]

Oh, ok :-)

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Charles [mailto:jonv...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 1:41 PM
To: Jason Granat
Cc: Vik Malhi; OSL Group
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

This was not even slightly directed at you...

I got at least 30 emails privately asking me for a point by point
braindump of the exam.


Jonathan

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Jason Granat wrote:
> I just asked how the IPExpert workbooks compared. I wasn't asking for 
> specifics. Sorry if I offended you.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jonathan Charles [mailto:jonv...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 1:29 PM
> To: Vik Malhi
> Cc: Jason Granat; OSL Group
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>
> Your welcome, though I would like to reply to the entire group:
>
> Stop asking me what is specifically on the test.
>
> I am not going to tell you
>
>
>
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Vik Malhi wrote:
>> Thanks for sharing the info Jonathan.
>>
>> From what we heard at networkers during the techtorial we believe we are
>> missing a few technologies too and we have been working hard to incorporate
>> anything that is currently lacking into our WB.
>>
>> I don't want to be cryptic and it is unfair to ask DIRECT questions to
>> somebody who has recently sat the lab although I'm sure you all want a
>> braindump from Jonathan:-) JK.
>>
>> --
>> Vik Malhi  CCIE #13890
>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>>
>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
>> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
>> Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com
>>
>>
>> Join our free online support and peer group communities:
>> http://www.IPexpert.com/communities
>> IPexpert - The Global Leader in Self-Study, Classroom-Based, Video-On-Demand
>> and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco CCIE R&S Lab, CCIE
>> Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE Voice Lab and CCIE Storage
>> Lab Certifications.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: Jonathan Charles 
>>> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:06:13 -0500
>>> To: Jason Granat 
>>> Cc: OSL Group 
>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>>>
>>> The Volume 1 workbook was good, but was missing something very
>>> important (perhaps, sort of... could be, maybe)  which will
>>> supposedly be in volume 2...
>>>
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Jason Granat wrote:
 Maybe you could give us your opinion on how much you think the IPExpert
 Workbooks helped prepare you?

 -Original Message-
 From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
 [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan 
 Charles
 Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 10:21 AM
 To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

 OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email from Ben
 Ng telling me why...)

 It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and
 remarkably fair...

 I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary reason I
 didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or even what
 was broken...).

 I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell you what
 I expected it to be...)

 I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP

 And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie




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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[Jonathan Charles]

This was not even slightly directed at you...

I got at least 30 emails privately asking me for a point by point
braindump of the exam.


Jonathan

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Jason Granat wrote:
> I just asked how the IPExpert workbooks compared. I wasn't asking for 
> specifics. Sorry if I offended you.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jonathan Charles [mailto:jonv...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 1:29 PM
> To: Vik Malhi
> Cc: Jason Granat; OSL Group
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>
> Your welcome, though I would like to reply to the entire group:
>
> Stop asking me what is specifically on the test.
>
> I am not going to tell you
>
>
>
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Vik Malhi wrote:
>> Thanks for sharing the info Jonathan.
>>
>> From what we heard at networkers during the techtorial we believe we are
>> missing a few technologies too and we have been working hard to incorporate
>> anything that is currently lacking into our WB.
>>
>> I don't want to be cryptic and it is unfair to ask DIRECT questions to
>> somebody who has recently sat the lab although I'm sure you all want a
>> braindump from Jonathan:-) JK.
>>
>> --
>> Vik Malhi  CCIE #13890
>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>>
>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
>> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
>> Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com
>>
>>
>> Join our free online support and peer group communities:
>> http://www.IPexpert.com/communities
>> IPexpert - The Global Leader in Self-Study, Classroom-Based, Video-On-Demand
>> and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco CCIE R&S Lab, CCIE
>> Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE Voice Lab and CCIE Storage
>> Lab Certifications.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: Jonathan Charles 
>>> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:06:13 -0500
>>> To: Jason Granat 
>>> Cc: OSL Group 
>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>>>
>>> The Volume 1 workbook was good, but was missing something very
>>> important (perhaps, sort of... could be, maybe)  which will
>>> supposedly be in volume 2...
>>>
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Jason Granat wrote:
 Maybe you could give us your opinion on how much you think the IPExpert
 Workbooks helped prepare you?

 -Original Message-
 From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
 [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan 
 Charles
 Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 10:21 AM
 To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

 OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email from Ben
 Ng telling me why...)

 It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and
 remarkably fair...

 I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary reason I
 didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or even what
 was broken...).

 I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell you what
 I expected it to be...)

 I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP

 And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie




 Jonathan
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 visit www.ipexpert.com



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>>> visit www.ipexpert.com
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Presence integration issue

[Brian Valentine]

Cisco provides a  Telco router that we will not have access to.  Is it
possible that they could have an AD/DNS server, which we would not have
access to?  Isn't it possible that they could have a preconfigured AD/DNS
server that we need to utilize for CUPS/CUPC integration?

 

UCCX runs LDAP and synchs with CUCM using AXL.  It also passes
authentication attempts to CUCM (which passes them on to AD if LDAP
authentication is enabled).  Now, UCCX's LDAP isn't Active Directory (I
believe it uses OpenLDAP), but could we use that for CUPS/CUPC?

 

Brian

 

From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Aamir Panjwani
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 9:28 AM
To: Jeff Cotter; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Presence integration issue

 

Thanks Jeff, very interesting indeed, as you said the key point is it's not
recommended but still achievable without AD/DNS. The question is how ? J
Perhaps other people on this forum may contribute their findings? As AD/DNS
won't be available in the real lab, it would be quite a challenge to
complete this task

 

From: Jeff Cotter [mailto:jcot...@voxns.com] 
Sent: Friday, 31 July 2009 8:59 PM
To: Aamir Panjwani; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: RE: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Presence integration issue

 

Aamir, the only way I was able to get presence/IM working was to setup
AD/DNS.  I was never able to get it working without.  I also found a pretty
good book on CUPS which has some really good troubleshooting tips.  BTW,
this book says CUP without AD is not recommended.  Does not say it won't
work just not recommended.  Title is "Deploying Cisco Unified Presence"
author is HouTong Luo, CCIE no. 6183 available at Amazon.

 

 

 

From: Aamir Panjwani [mailto:aamir.panjw...@ivision.com.au] 
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 11:25 PM
To: Jeff Cotter; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: RE: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Presence integration issue

 

Hi Guys,

 

I am also running into exact same problem Jeff mentioned below. Everything
works except presence/IM. I would be keen to know if someone else managed to
have a fully functional CUPC going without AD/DNS.

 

Can some please point me in the right direction

 

Thanks

 

From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Cotter
Sent: Sunday, 14 June 2009 9:54 AM
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Presence integration issue

 

I appear to have everything working EXCEPT presence.  Personal Communicator
is showing limited connectivity.no presence information..indicates off line
and grayed out..I can make and receive calls, view voicemail  and use IP
phone messenger.   Troubleshooting window indicates all green checkmarks
Based on a Cisco troubleshooting document I found, I am being pointed to the
Proxy Domain name under 

System>Service Parameters> my cups server>Cisco UP Sip Proxy.

 

I am not sure what to enter here as I do not seem to have a domain name
configured on either CUCM or CUPS (at least that I can find). Any help would
be appreciated.  Thanks

 

 

 


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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[Jonathan Charles]

I know, in way too much detail, why I failed... I got an email from
Ben Ng explaining it.


Jonathan

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Brian Valentine wrote:
> I don't know what we expect Jonathan to tell us.  What we really want to ask
> is something we don't really want to know and something he really can't tell
> us anyway because of NDA.
>
> Jonathan, bummer that you failed.  It sounds like you know why you failed --
> which is a very good thing.  Better luck on your next attempt.
>
> I will add this.  I took the R&S exam last year and passed on my first
> attempt.  I also thought the exam was a fair test of knowledge and skill.
> If you are well prepared in terms of understanding the technology deeply,
> have a plan of how to attack your lab, and follow your plan, you certainly
> CAN get 80 points in 8 hours.  Now, I realize it is a different exam, but I
> would expect the voice exam to be similar in that it will be achievable.
> Cisco doesn't want to know primarily that you can do stupid tricks with
> routers and phones.  Now I haven't sat the voice lab exam yet, but I would
> be extremely surprised and disappointed if there were 30 points of stupid
> phone tricks.  Cisco wants to know that you understand the technology deeply
> enough that you can configure to a set of complex requirements.  Bottom line
> -- they want to know that you are an expert. To an expert the exam should
> seem "easy".   Of course, you could always have a tricky question or two,
> but remember that you don't need 100% to pass.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Damisch
> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 2:17 PM
> To: Jonathan Charles; Tanner Ezell
> Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>
> Thanks for that last bit of info.  I will be sure to work on the [deleted by
> NDA] topics.  Those are my weak areas.
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan
> Charles
> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 1:05 PM
> To: Tanner Ezell
> Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>
> Well, the [deleted by NDA] was [deleted by NDA] than I expected, but
> [deleted by NDA] was [deleted by NDA] and [deleted by NDA] was also
> [deleted by NDA]
>
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Tanner Ezell
> wrote:
>> So basically, you had thoughts, but can't share, and you did things, but
> you
>> cannot tell us
>> So all in all, 
>> :)
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Jonathan Charles 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email from Ben
>>> Ng telling me why...)
>>>
>>> It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and
>>> remarkably fair...
>>>
>>> I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary reason I
>>> didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or even what
>>> was broken...).
>>>
>>> I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell you what
>>> I expected it to be...)
>>>
>>> I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP
>>>
>>> And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jonathan
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[Jonathan Charles]

Honestly, it isn't that bad...

Most of the information from version 2 applies to version 3, a quick
look at the blueprint will prove that out...

Yes, the hardware changed, and some of it made life easier, some of it
makes life harder...

Yes, there are traps set up for you (where config in question 7.3
destroys the solution you did in question 4.2, et al)...

Yes, the questions are very specific, and so are the solutions, they
did not reinvent the CCIE here, they just updated it to current
material...


Jonathan


On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Michael
Ciarfello wrote:
> Hopefully we all don't want a braindump from Johnathan.  I think that's what 
> caused Cisco to create more and more puzzling questions.  A technical test 
> became a riddle.  I was expecting Batman and Robin to show up next if the 
> test didn't change soon.  I think it's just a curiosity to see how bad it's 
> going to be.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com 
> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Vik Malhi
> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 3:02 PM
> To: Jonathan Charles; Jason Granat
> Cc: OSL Group
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>
> Thanks for sharing the info Jonathan.
>
> From what we heard at networkers during the techtorial we believe we are
> missing a few technologies too and we have been working hard to incorporate
> anything that is currently lacking into our WB.
>
> I don't want to be cryptic and it is unfair to ask DIRECT questions to
> somebody who has recently sat the lab although I'm sure you all want a
> braindump from Jonathan:-) JK.
>
> --
> Vik Malhi  CCIE #13890
> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>
> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
> Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com
>
>
> Join our free online support and peer group communities:
> http://www.IPexpert.com/communities
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> and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco CCIE R&S Lab, CCIE
> Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE Voice Lab and CCIE Storage
> Lab Certifications.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> From: Jonathan Charles 
>> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:06:13 -0500
>> To: Jason Granat 
>> Cc: OSL Group 
>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>>
>> The Volume 1 workbook was good, but was missing something very
>> important (perhaps, sort of... could be, maybe)  which will
>> supposedly be in volume 2...
>>
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Jason Granat wrote:
>>> Maybe you could give us your opinion on how much you think the IPExpert
>>> Workbooks helped prepare you?
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
>>> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan 
>>> Charles
>>> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 10:21 AM
>>> To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
>>> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>>>
>>> OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email from Ben
>>> Ng telling me why...)
>>>
>>> It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and
>>> remarkably fair...
>>>
>>> I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary reason I
>>> didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or even what
>>> was broken...).
>>>
>>> I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell you what
>>> I expected it to be...)
>>>
>>> I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP
>>>
>>> And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>> ___
>>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please
>>> visit www.ipexpert.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://slash128.com
>>>
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[Tim T]

Vik - A while ago I lined up the Volume 1 workbook with the blueprint.  I
highlighted these topics for further studying.

4.02 T1/E1 CAS
4.07 IP-IP Gateway/CUBE
10.01 L2 Traffic Classifications and Policing
10.02 L2 Queuing Mechanisms
10.03 L2 LFI
12.03 Redundancy (CCX)

I've touched most of them, except the CUBE.  Based on what you heard at
Networkers, are there other topics you'd recommend for self study?
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Vik Malhi  wrote:

> Thanks for sharing the info Jonathan.
>
> From what we heard at networkers during the techtorial we believe we are
> missing a few technologies too and we have been working hard to incorporate
> anything that is currently lacking into our WB.
>
> I don't want to be cryptic and it is unfair to ask DIRECT questions to
> somebody who has recently sat the lab although I'm sure you all want a
> braindump from Jonathan:-) JK.
>
> --
> Vik Malhi ­ CCIE #13890
> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>
> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
> Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com
>
>
> Join our free online support and peer group communities:
> http://www.IPexpert.com/communities 
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> Video-On-Demand
> and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco CCIE R&S Lab, CCIE
> Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE Voice Lab and CCIE Storage
> Lab Certifications.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > From: Jonathan Charles 
> > Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:06:13 -0500
> > To: Jason Granat 
> > Cc: OSL Group 
> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>  >
> > The Volume 1 workbook was good, but was missing something very
> > important (perhaps, sort of... could be, maybe)  which will
> > supposedly be in volume 2...
> >
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Jason Granat wrote:
> >> Maybe you could give us your opinion on how much you think the IPExpert
> >> Workbooks helped prepare you?
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
> >> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan
> Charles
> >> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 10:21 AM
> >> To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
> >> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
> >>
> >> OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email from Ben
> >> Ng telling me why...)
> >>
> >> It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and
> >> remarkably fair...
> >>
> >> I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary reason I
> >> didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or even what
> >> was broken...).
> >>
> >> I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell you what
> >> I expected it to be...)
> >>
> >> I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP
> >>
> >> And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jonathan
> >> ___
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> please
> >> visit www.ipexpert.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> http://slash128.com
> >>
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[Jason Granat]

I just asked how the IPExpert workbooks compared. I wasn't asking for 
specifics. Sorry if I offended you.

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Charles [mailto:jonv...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 1:29 PM
To: Vik Malhi
Cc: Jason Granat; OSL Group
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

Your welcome, though I would like to reply to the entire group:

Stop asking me what is specifically on the test.

I am not going to tell you




Jonathan

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Vik Malhi wrote:
> Thanks for sharing the info Jonathan.
>
> From what we heard at networkers during the techtorial we believe we are
> missing a few technologies too and we have been working hard to incorporate
> anything that is currently lacking into our WB.
>
> I don't want to be cryptic and it is unfair to ask DIRECT questions to
> somebody who has recently sat the lab although I'm sure you all want a
> braindump from Jonathan:-) JK.
>
> --
> Vik Malhi  CCIE #13890
> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>
> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
> Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com
>
>
> Join our free online support and peer group communities:
> http://www.IPexpert.com/communities
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> and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco CCIE R&S Lab, CCIE
> Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE Voice Lab and CCIE Storage
> Lab Certifications.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> From: Jonathan Charles 
>> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:06:13 -0500
>> To: Jason Granat 
>> Cc: OSL Group 
>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>>
>> The Volume 1 workbook was good, but was missing something very
>> important (perhaps, sort of... could be, maybe)  which will
>> supposedly be in volume 2...
>>
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Jason Granat wrote:
>>> Maybe you could give us your opinion on how much you think the IPExpert
>>> Workbooks helped prepare you?
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
>>> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan 
>>> Charles
>>> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 10:21 AM
>>> To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
>>> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>>>
>>> OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email from Ben
>>> Ng telling me why...)
>>>
>>> It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and
>>> remarkably fair...
>>>
>>> I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary reason I
>>> didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or even what
>>> was broken...).
>>>
>>> I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell you what
>>> I expected it to be...)
>>>
>>> I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP
>>>
>>> And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>> ___
>>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please
>>> visit www.ipexpert.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://slash128.com
>>>
>> ___
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>> visit www.ipexpert.com
>
>
>



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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[Jonathan Charles]

Your welcome, though I would like to reply to the entire group:

Stop asking me what is specifically on the test.

I am not going to tell you




Jonathan

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Vik Malhi wrote:
> Thanks for sharing the info Jonathan.
>
> From what we heard at networkers during the techtorial we believe we are
> missing a few technologies too and we have been working hard to incorporate
> anything that is currently lacking into our WB.
>
> I don't want to be cryptic and it is unfair to ask DIRECT questions to
> somebody who has recently sat the lab although I'm sure you all want a
> braindump from Jonathan:-) JK.
>
> --
> Vik Malhi ­ CCIE #13890
> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>
> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
> Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com
>
>
> Join our free online support and peer group communities:
> http://www.IPexpert.com/communities
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> Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE Voice Lab and CCIE Storage
> Lab Certifications.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> From: Jonathan Charles 
>> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:06:13 -0500
>> To: Jason Granat 
>> Cc: OSL Group 
>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>>
>> The Volume 1 workbook was good, but was missing something very
>> important (perhaps, sort of... could be, maybe)  which will
>> supposedly be in volume 2...
>>
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Jason Granat wrote:
>>> Maybe you could give us your opinion on how much you think the IPExpert
>>> Workbooks helped prepare you?
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
>>> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan 
>>> Charles
>>> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 10:21 AM
>>> To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
>>> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>>>
>>> OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email from Ben
>>> Ng telling me why...)
>>>
>>> It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and
>>> remarkably fair...
>>>
>>> I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary reason I
>>> didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or even what
>>> was broken...).
>>>
>>> I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell you what
>>> I expected it to be...)
>>>
>>> I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP
>>>
>>> And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>> ___
>>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please
>>> visit www.ipexpert.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://slash128.com
>>>
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>> visit www.ipexpert.com
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>
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[Brian Valentine]

I don't know what we expect Jonathan to tell us.  What we really want to ask
is something we don't really want to know and something he really can't tell
us anyway because of NDA.  

Jonathan, bummer that you failed.  It sounds like you know why you failed --
which is a very good thing.  Better luck on your next attempt.  

I will add this.  I took the R&S exam last year and passed on my first
attempt.  I also thought the exam was a fair test of knowledge and skill.
If you are well prepared in terms of understanding the technology deeply,
have a plan of how to attack your lab, and follow your plan, you certainly
CAN get 80 points in 8 hours.  Now, I realize it is a different exam, but I
would expect the voice exam to be similar in that it will be achievable.
Cisco doesn't want to know primarily that you can do stupid tricks with
routers and phones.  Now I haven't sat the voice lab exam yet, but I would
be extremely surprised and disappointed if there were 30 points of stupid
phone tricks.  Cisco wants to know that you understand the technology deeply
enough that you can configure to a set of complex requirements.  Bottom line
-- they want to know that you are an expert. To an expert the exam should
seem "easy".   Of course, you could always have a tricky question or two,
but remember that you don't need 100% to pass. 



-Original Message-
From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Damisch
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 2:17 PM
To: Jonathan Charles; Tanner Ezell
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

Thanks for that last bit of info.  I will be sure to work on the [deleted by
NDA] topics.  Those are my weak areas.

Thanks,
Kevin

-Original Message-
From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan
Charles
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 1:05 PM
To: Tanner Ezell
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

Well, the [deleted by NDA] was [deleted by NDA] than I expected, but
[deleted by NDA] was [deleted by NDA] and [deleted by NDA] was also
[deleted by NDA]


Jonathan

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Tanner Ezell
wrote:
> So basically, you had thoughts, but can't share, and you did things, but
you
> cannot tell us
> So all in all, 
> :)
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Jonathan Charles 
> wrote:
>>
>> OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email from Ben
>> Ng telling me why...)
>>
>> It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and
>> remarkably fair...
>>
>> I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary reason I
>> didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or even what
>> was broken...).
>>
>> I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell you what
>> I expected it to be...)
>>
>> I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP
>>
>> And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jonathan
>> ___
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>> visit www.ipexpert.com
>
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[Michael Ciarfello]

Hopefully we all don't want a braindump from Johnathan.  I think that's what 
caused Cisco to create more and more puzzling questions.  A technical test 
became a riddle.  I was expecting Batman and Robin to show up next if the test 
didn't change soon.  I think it's just a curiosity to see how bad it's going to 
be.


-Original Message-
From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com 
[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Vik Malhi
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 3:02 PM
To: Jonathan Charles; Jason Granat
Cc: OSL Group
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

Thanks for sharing the info Jonathan.

>From what we heard at networkers during the techtorial we believe we are
missing a few technologies too and we have been working hard to incorporate
anything that is currently lacking into our WB.

I don't want to be cryptic and it is unfair to ask DIRECT questions to
somebody who has recently sat the lab although I'm sure you all want a
braindump from Jonathan:-) JK.

--
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Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
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> From: Jonathan Charles 
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:06:13 -0500
> To: Jason Granat 
> Cc: OSL Group 
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>
> The Volume 1 workbook was good, but was missing something very
> important (perhaps, sort of... could be, maybe)  which will
> supposedly be in volume 2...
>
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Jason Granat wrote:
>> Maybe you could give us your opinion on how much you think the IPExpert
>> Workbooks helped prepare you?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
>> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Charles
>> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 10:21 AM
>> To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
>> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>>
>> OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email from Ben
>> Ng telling me why...)
>>
>> It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and
>> remarkably fair...
>>
>> I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary reason I
>> didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or even what
>> was broken...).
>>
>> I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell you what
>> I expected it to be...)
>>
>> I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP
>>
>> And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jonathan
>> ___
>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please
>> visit www.ipexpert.com
>>
>>
>>
>> http://slash128.com
>>
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[Thomas Koch]

Has anyone taken the v3 LAB IN RTP?


Thomas J Koch
Owner/Consultant 
Digitones, LLC
Cell: 630-808-4910
E-mail: digito...@comcast.net
-Original Message-
From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan
Charles
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 1:09 PM
To: Michael Ciarfello
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

If you have implemented CUPS, CUCM, CUCCX, etc, before you will have
NO problems with the open ended questions... the IPExpert questions
were orders of magnitude harder than the actual questions...

To give an example of the kind of question:

"where would you go in CUCM to specify the default auto-reg phone
protocol..."

Answer: Enterprise Parameters...

Seriously, it was that kind of difficulty (but not that question...)


J

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Michael
Ciarfello wrote:
> The “easier” and “remarkably fair portion” is GREAT information,
especially
> for this early in the game.
>
>
>
> He could of said “I’m lucky to have gotten 10 points.  No way, good luck
> suckers.”  He could have said, it’s harder than IPExpert Lab 5.
>
>
>
> Were the open ended questions fair?
>
>
>
> Thanks for the info.
>
>
>
> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Tanner Ezell
> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 1:33 PM
> To: Jonathan Charles
> Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>
>
>
> So basically, you had thoughts, but can't share, and you did things, but
you
> cannot tell us
>
>
>
> So all in all, 
>
>
>
> :)
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Jonathan Charles 
> wrote:
>
> OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email from Ben
> Ng telling me why...)
>
> It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and
> remarkably fair...
>
> I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary reason I
> didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or even what
> was broken...).
>
> I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell you what
> I expected it to be...)
>
> I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP
>
> And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie
>
>
>
>
> Jonathan
> ___
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> visit www.ipexpert.com
>
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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] LAb9: BACD

[oliver rodrigues]

Hi Guys,

When I'm doing the task for B-acd on LAB9, Bacd doesn't work for IP phones
registered with CME but works for calls from PSTN & CUCM.

Any clue guys did it work with you'll.

Thanks,
Oliver
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[Vik Malhi]

Thanks for sharing the info Jonathan.

>From what we heard at networkers during the techtorial we believe we are
missing a few technologies too and we have been working hard to incorporate
anything that is currently lacking into our WB.

I don't want to be cryptic and it is unfair to ask DIRECT questions to
somebody who has recently sat the lab although I'm sure you all want a
braindump from Jonathan:-) JK.

-- 
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Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
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Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com


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> From: Jonathan Charles 
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:06:13 -0500
> To: Jason Granat 
> Cc: OSL Group 
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
> 
> The Volume 1 workbook was good, but was missing something very
> important (perhaps, sort of... could be, maybe)  which will
> supposedly be in volume 2...
> 
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Jason Granat wrote:
>> Maybe you could give us your opinion on how much you think the IPExpert
>> Workbooks helped prepare you?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
>> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Charles
>> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 10:21 AM
>> To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
>> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>> 
>> OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email from Ben
>> Ng telling me why...)
>> 
>> It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and
>> remarkably fair...
>> 
>> I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary reason I
>> didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or even what
>> was broken...).
>> 
>> I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell you what
>> I expected it to be...)
>> 
>> I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP
>> 
>> And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> ___
>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please
>> visit www.ipexpert.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> http://slash128.com
>> 
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[Michael Ciarfello]

Makes me want to try the exam earlier, but I'm going to stick to my plan.  
December is re-take of one-week lab experience and I'm targeting for February 
for the exam.  Small risk of AD/DNS/VPIM being put back on the exam by that 
time, but so what?  AD makes CUP EASIER.  VPIM is no big deal.

Yea, no 6608 with the messed up QoS, no VG248 (easy, but end of sale for a long 
time so don't get to touch it in real and too expensive to have in a lab.)  No 
ATA (the most messed up piece of c**p I've ever seen.).

It seemed Cisco was at witts end on the V2 and started to put in questions that 
were just PUZZLES just to make it harder and try to beat out all the cheating 
sites.  Seems today they are trying to get rid of said sites.   The open ended 
questions might get rid of "those" types of people who concentrate on getting 
the configurations done and not studying the theory, etc.  So I hope you are 
right and the exam stays a breath of fresh air and a test of knowledge and 
skill instead of putting a jig saw puzzle together.

From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com 
[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Nara Shikamaru
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 2:05 PM
To: Tanner Ezell
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

Well, I appreciate the feedback.  The V2 exam was renown for its frustrations.  
I'm happy to hear that v3 is a test of knowledge and skill.  I decided to wait 
until V3 so that I didn't have to deal with studying techniques that are 
irrelevant in the real world, like esoteric knowledge of ATA hex code settings 
and CatOS.  Where I live, only one shop still used CatOS and last week they 
filed for bankruptcy.  The 3750 as the HQ switch was a godsend, I can afford to 
buy this thing and spend days learnining in my home lab.  V3's equipment 
changes were the smartest thing Cisco's done in it's cert track.
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Tanner Ezell 
mailto:tanner.ez...@gmail.com>> wrote:
So basically, you had thoughts, but can't share, and you did things, but you 
cannot tell us

So all in all, 

:)

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Jonathan Charles 
mailto:jonv...@gmail.com>> wrote:
OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email from Ben
Ng telling me why...)

It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and
remarkably fair...

I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary reason I
didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or even what
was broken...).

I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell you what
I expected it to be...)

I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP

And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie




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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[Kevin Damisch]

Thanks for that last bit of info.  I will be sure to work on the [deleted by 
NDA] topics.  Those are my weak areas.

Thanks,
Kevin

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From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com 
[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Charles
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 1:05 PM
To: Tanner Ezell
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

Well, the [deleted by NDA] was [deleted by NDA] than I expected, but
[deleted by NDA] was [deleted by NDA] and [deleted by NDA] was also
[deleted by NDA]


Jonathan

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Tanner Ezell wrote:
> So basically, you had thoughts, but can't share, and you did things, but you
> cannot tell us
> So all in all, 
> :)
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Jonathan Charles 
> wrote:
>>
>> OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email from Ben
>> Ng telling me why...)
>>
>> It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and
>> remarkably fair...
>>
>> I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary reason I
>> didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or even what
>> was broken...).
>>
>> I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell you what
>> I expected it to be...)
>>
>> I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP
>>
>> And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jonathan
>> ___
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>> visit www.ipexpert.com
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[Jonathan Charles]

Not yet but this is apparently in the works...


J

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:08 PM, c george wrote:
> is what we have haere from IPEXPERT enough to conquer this version of the
> lab
>
> Respectfully Charles George
>
>
>
>> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:04:30 -0500
>> From: jonv...@gmail.com
>> To: lakpr...@gmail.com
>> CC: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>>
>> It was, indeed, a part of the lab, to an extent that may or may not be
>> measurable...
>>
>> Seriously, don't ask me specifics.
>>
>> J
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Ravindra Lakpriya
>> wrote:
>> > HI Jonathan,
>> > How was the CUPS part of the Lab ??
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Jonathan Charles 
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email from Ben
>> >> Ng telling me why...)
>> >>
>> >> It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and
>> >> remarkably fair...
>> >>
>> >> I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary reason I
>> >> didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or even what
>> >> was broken...).
>> >>
>> >> I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell you what
>> >> I expected it to be...)
>> >>
>> >> I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP
>> >>
>> >> And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Jonathan
>> >> ___
>> >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
>> >> please
>> >> visit www.ipexpert.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Ravindra Lakpriya
>> > +94 773 532 094
>> >
>> ___
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>> visit www.ipexpert.com
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[Jonathan Charles]

No, this was specific to me making a remarkably stupid mistake and
them verifying it was me and not them.



Jonathan

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Bill Talley wrote:
> Here's a question unrelated to the exam content.
>
>
> Was there anything evident from Ben's email that would indicate everyone who
> fails would receive direct feedback from Ben or a proctor?  Or is it your
> impression the email from Ben was a unique occurrence?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan
> Charles
> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 1:05 PM
> To: Ravindra Lakpriya
> Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>
> It was, indeed, a part of the lab, to an extent that may or may not be
> measurable...
>
> Seriously, don't ask me specifics.
>
> J
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Ravindra Lakpriya
> wrote:
>> HI Jonathan,
>> How was the CUPS part of the Lab ??
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Jonathan Charles 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email from Ben
>>> Ng telling me why...)
>>>
>>> It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and
>>> remarkably fair...
>>>
>>> I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary reason I
>>> didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or even what
>>> was broken...).
>>>
>>> I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell you what
>>> I expected it to be...)
>>>
>>> I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP
>>>
>>> And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>> ___
>>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please
>>> visit www.ipexpert.com
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Ravindra Lakpriya
>> +94 773 532 094
>>
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[Jason Granat]

Thanks! This is actually very good to hear! Have you gone through the Vol2 labs 
yet to see if they are more 'complete'? :-)

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Charles [mailto:jonv...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 11:06 AM
To: Jason Granat
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

The Volume 1 workbook was good, but was missing something very
important (perhaps, sort of... could be, maybe)  which will
supposedly be in volume 2...


Jonathan

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Jason Granat wrote:
> Maybe you could give us your opinion on how much you think the IPExpert 
> Workbooks helped prepare you?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com 
> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Charles
> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 10:21 AM
> To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>
> OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email from Ben
> Ng telling me why...)
>
> It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and
> remarkably fair...
>
> I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary reason I
> didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or even what
> was broken...).
>
> I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell you what
> I expected it to be...)
>
> I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP
>
> And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie
>
>
>
>
> Jonathan
> ___
> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please 
> visit www.ipexpert.com
>
>
>
> http://slash128.com
>



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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[Tanner Ezell]

Its good to know Jonathan and we wish you luck on your next attempt

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Jonathan Charles wrote:

> If you have implemented CUPS, CUCM, CUCCX, etc, before you will have
> NO problems with the open ended questions... the IPExpert questions
> were orders of magnitude harder than the actual questions...
>
> To give an example of the kind of question:
>
> "where would you go in CUCM to specify the default auto-reg phone
> protocol..."
>
> Answer: Enterprise Parameters...
>
> Seriously, it was that kind of difficulty (but not that question...)
>
>
> J
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Michael
> Ciarfello wrote:
> > The “easier” and “remarkably fair portion” is GREAT information,
> especially
> > for this early in the game.
> >
> >
> >
> > He could of said “I’m lucky to have gotten 10 points.  No way, good luck
> > suckers.”  He could have said, it’s harder than IPExpert Lab 5.
> >
> >
> >
> > Were the open ended questions fair?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the info.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
> > [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Tanner
> Ezell
> > Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 1:33 PM
> > To: Jonathan Charles
> > Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
> >
> >
> >
> > So basically, you had thoughts, but can't share, and you did things, but
> you
> > cannot tell us
> >
> >
> >
> > So all in all, 
> >
> >
> >
> > :)
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Jonathan Charles 
> > wrote:
> >
> > OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email from Ben
> > Ng telling me why...)
> >
> > It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and
> > remarkably fair...
> >
> > I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary reason I
> > didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or even what
> > was broken...).
> >
> > I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell you what
> > I expected it to be...)
> >
> > I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP
> >
> > And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Jonathan
> > ___
> > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please
> > visit www.ipexpert.com
> >
> >
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[c george]

is what we have here from IPEXPERT enough to conquer this version of the lab

Respectfully Charles George


 
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:04:30 -0500
> From: jonv...@gmail.com
> To: lakpr...@gmail.com
> CC: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
> 
> It was, indeed, a part of the lab, to an extent that may or may not be
> measurable...
> 
> Seriously, don't ask me specifics.
> 
> J
> 
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Ravindra Lakpriya wrote:
> > HI Jonathan,
> > How was the CUPS part of the Lab ??
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Jonathan Charles 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email from Ben
> >> Ng telling me why...)
> >>
> >> It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and
> >> remarkably fair...
> >>
> >> I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary reason I
> >> didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or even what
> >> was broken...).
> >>
> >> I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell you what
> >> I expected it to be...)
> >>
> >> I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP
> >>
> >> And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jonathan
> >> ___
> >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please
> >> visit www.ipexpert.com
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Ravindra Lakpriya
> > +94 773 532 094
> >
> ___
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> visit www.ipexpert.com

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[Jonathan Charles]

If you have implemented CUPS, CUCM, CUCCX, etc, before you will have
NO problems with the open ended questions... the IPExpert questions
were orders of magnitude harder than the actual questions...

To give an example of the kind of question:

"where would you go in CUCM to specify the default auto-reg phone protocol..."

Answer: Enterprise Parameters...

Seriously, it was that kind of difficulty (but not that question...)


J

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Michael
Ciarfello wrote:
> The “easier” and “remarkably fair portion” is GREAT information, especially
> for this early in the game.
>
>
>
> He could of said “I’m lucky to have gotten 10 points.  No way, good luck
> suckers.”  He could have said, it’s harder than IPExpert Lab 5.
>
>
>
> Were the open ended questions fair?
>
>
>
> Thanks for the info.
>
>
>
> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Tanner Ezell
> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 1:33 PM
> To: Jonathan Charles
> Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>
>
>
> So basically, you had thoughts, but can't share, and you did things, but you
> cannot tell us
>
>
>
> So all in all, 
>
>
>
> :)
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Jonathan Charles 
> wrote:
>
> OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email from Ben
> Ng telling me why...)
>
> It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and
> remarkably fair...
>
> I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary reason I
> didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or even what
> was broken...).
>
> I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell you what
> I expected it to be...)
>
> I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP
>
> And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie
>
>
>
>
> Jonathan
> ___
> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please
> visit www.ipexpert.com
>
>
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[c george]

is what we have haere from IPEXPERT enough to conquer this version of the lab

Respectfully Charles George


 
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:04:30 -0500
> From: jonv...@gmail.com
> To: lakpr...@gmail.com
> CC: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
> 
> It was, indeed, a part of the lab, to an extent that may or may not be
> measurable...
> 
> Seriously, don't ask me specifics.
> 
> J
> 
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Ravindra Lakpriya wrote:
> > HI Jonathan,
> > How was the CUPS part of the Lab ??
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Jonathan Charles 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email from Ben
> >> Ng telling me why...)
> >>
> >> It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and
> >> remarkably fair...
> >>
> >> I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary reason I
> >> didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or even what
> >> was broken...).
> >>
> >> I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell you what
> >> I expected it to be...)
> >>
> >> I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP
> >>
> >> And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jonathan
> >> ___
> >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please
> >> visit www.ipexpert.com
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Ravindra Lakpriya
> > +94 773 532 094
> >
> ___
> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please 
> visit www.ipexpert.com

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[Jonathan Charles]

The Volume 1 workbook was good, but was missing something very
important (perhaps, sort of... could be, maybe)  which will
supposedly be in volume 2...


Jonathan

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Jason Granat wrote:
> Maybe you could give us your opinion on how much you think the IPExpert 
> Workbooks helped prepare you?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com 
> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Charles
> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 10:21 AM
> To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3
>
> OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email from Ben
> Ng telling me why...)
>
> It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and
> remarkably fair...
>
> I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary reason I
> didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or even what
> was broken...).
>
> I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell you what
> I expected it to be...)
>
> I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP
>
> And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie
>
>
>
>
> Jonathan
> ___
> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please 
> visit www.ipexpert.com
>
>
>
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[Tanner Ezell]

hehe :)

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Jonathan Charles wrote:

> Well, the [deleted by NDA] was [deleted by NDA] than I expected, but
> [deleted by NDA] was [deleted by NDA] and [deleted by NDA] was also
> [deleted by NDA]
>
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Tanner Ezell
> wrote:
> > So basically, you had thoughts, but can't share, and you did things, but
> you
> > cannot tell us
> > So all in all, 
> > :)
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Jonathan Charles 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email from Ben
> >> Ng telling me why...)
> >>
> >> It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and
> >> remarkably fair...
> >>
> >> I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary reason I
> >> didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or even what
> >> was broken...).
> >>
> >> I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell you what
> >> I expected it to be...)
> >>
> >> I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP
> >>
> >> And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jonathan
> >> ___
> >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
> please
> >> visit www.ipexpert.com
> >
> >
>
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[Nara Shikamaru]

Well, I appreciate the feedback.  The V2 exam was renown for its
frustrations.  I'm happy to hear that v3 is a test of knowledge and skill.
I decided to wait until V3 so that I didn't have to deal with studying
techniques that are irrelevant in the real world, like esoteric knowledge of
ATA hex code settings and CatOS.  Where I live, only one shop still used
CatOS and last week they filed for bankruptcy.  The 3750 as the HQ switch
was a godsend, I can afford to buy this thing and spend days learnining in
my home lab.  V3's equipment changes were the smartest thing Cisco's done in
it's cert track.

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Tanner Ezell wrote:

> So basically, you had thoughts, but can't share, and you did things, but
> you cannot tell us
> So all in all, 
>
> :)
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Jonathan Charles wrote:
>
>> OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email from Ben
>> Ng telling me why...)
>>
>> It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and
>> remarkably fair...
>>
>> I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary reason I
>> didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or even what
>> was broken...).
>>
>> I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell you what
>> I expected it to be...)
>>
>> I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP
>>
>> And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jonathan
>> ___
>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please
>> visit www.ipexpert.com
>>
>
>
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[Jonathan Charles]

Well, the [deleted by NDA] was [deleted by NDA] than I expected, but
[deleted by NDA] was [deleted by NDA] and [deleted by NDA] was also
[deleted by NDA]


Jonathan

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Tanner Ezell wrote:
> So basically, you had thoughts, but can't share, and you did things, but you
> cannot tell us
> So all in all, 
> :)
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Jonathan Charles 
> wrote:
>>
>> OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email from Ben
>> Ng telling me why...)
>>
>> It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and
>> remarkably fair...
>>
>> I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary reason I
>> didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or even what
>> was broken...).
>>
>> I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell you what
>> I expected it to be...)
>>
>> I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP
>>
>> And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jonathan
>> ___
>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please
>> visit www.ipexpert.com
>
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[Michael Ciarfello]

The "easier" and "remarkably fair portion" is GREAT information, especially for 
this early in the game.

He could of said "I'm lucky to have gotten 10 points.  No way, good luck 
suckers."  He could have said, it's harder than IPExpert Lab 5.

Were the open ended questions fair?

Thanks for the info.

From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com 
[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Tanner Ezell
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 1:33 PM
To: Jonathan Charles
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

So basically, you had thoughts, but can't share, and you did things, but you 
cannot tell us

So all in all, 

:)
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Jonathan Charles 
mailto:jonv...@gmail.com>> wrote:
OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email from Ben
Ng telling me why...)

It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and
remarkably fair...

I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary reason I
didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or even what
was broken...).

I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell you what
I expected it to be...)

I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP

And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie




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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[Jonathan Charles]

It was, indeed, a part of the lab, to an extent that may or may not be
measurable...

Seriously, don't ask me specifics.

J

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Ravindra Lakpriya wrote:
> HI Jonathan,
> How was the CUPS part of the Lab ??
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Jonathan Charles 
> wrote:
>>
>> OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email from Ben
>> Ng telling me why...)
>>
>> It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and
>> remarkably fair...
>>
>> I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary reason I
>> didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or even what
>> was broken...).
>>
>> I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell you what
>> I expected it to be...)
>>
>> I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP
>>
>> And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jonathan
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>
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[Tanner Ezell]

So basically, you had thoughts, but can't share, and you did things, but you
cannot tell us
So all in all, 

:)

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Jonathan Charles wrote:

> OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email from Ben
> Ng telling me why...)
>
> It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and
> remarkably fair...
>
> I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary reason I
> didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or even what
> was broken...).
>
> I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell you what
> I expected it to be...)
>
> I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP
>
> And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie
>
>
>
>
> Jonathan
> ___
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> visit www.ipexpert.com
>
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[Ravindra Lakpriya]

HI Jonathan,
How was the CUPS part of the Lab ??

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Jonathan Charles wrote:

> OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email from Ben
> Ng telling me why...)
>
> It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and
> remarkably fair...
>
> I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary reason I
> didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or even what
> was broken...).
>
> I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell you what
> I expected it to be...)
>
> I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP
>
> And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie
>
>
>
>
> Jonathan
> ___
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> visit www.ipexpert.com
>



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+94 773 532 094
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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3

[Jonathan Charles]

OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email from Ben
Ng telling me why...)

It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and
remarkably fair...

I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary reason I
didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or even what
was broken...).

I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell you what
I expected it to be...)

I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP

And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie




Jonathan
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 and Videos?

[Jonathan Charles]

Do we need to do anything, or does it ship automatically?

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Mike Down wrote:
> The VOD should be shipping today/Monday at the latest.  Existing customers
> are entitled to the updates.  I would suggest you following our blog at
> http://ipexpert.ccieblog.com for information regarding product releases,
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>
> Best wishes,
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>   5. Re: Volume 2 and Videos? (ctpresident)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:34:01 -0500
> From: Jonathan Charles 
> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 and Videos?
> To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
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> Were they supposed to be out today?
>
> Also, if those of us with pre-existing BLS are not entitled to the new
> material, how do we go about getting the upgrade?
>
>
>
> Jonathan
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:39:42 -0700
> From: Jason Granat 
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 and Videos?
> To: Jonathan Charles ,
>        "ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com"
> 
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I hope those of us that purchased the old BLS are entitled to the new
> material until we pass:
>
>
>
> http://www.ipexpert.com/Guarantee
>
>
>
> This is one of the big reasons I use IPExpert (that and of course they rock
> :))
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan
> Charles
> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 7:34 AM
> To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 and Videos?
>
>
>
> Were they supposed to be out today?
>
>
>
> Also, if those of us with pre-existing BLS are not entitled to the new
>
> material, how do we go about getting the upgrade?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Jonathan
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> From: smael 
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 and Videos?
> To: Jason Granat , Jonathan Charles
>        ,    "ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com"
>        
> Message-ID: 
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> I purchased the latest BLS for V3 lab by the June 30th, 2009 deadline, but
> it came loaded with the older version.
>
> It should be a supported upgrade
>
>
>
>
> On 7/31/09 10:39 AM, "Jason Granat"  wrote:
>
>> I hope those of us that purchased the old BLS are entitled to the new
> material
>> until 

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE_Voice Digest, Vol 41, Issue 224

[Willie McAllister]

The question was answered about the gen 2 IP blue phones thanks

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   5. Re: Volume 2 and Videos? (ctpresident)


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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:34:01 -0500
From: Jonathan Charles 
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 and Videos?
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Message-ID:
<5d093f9a0907310734i7812e07dv17c345a94f077...@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Were they supposed to be out today?

Also, if those of us with pre-existing BLS are not entitled to the new
material, how do we go about getting the upgrade?



Jonathan


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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:39:42 -0700
From: Jason Granat 
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 and Videos?
To: Jonathan Charles ,
"ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com"

Message-ID:
<4b7c6fa1c76f2e45b236701f379ad4ad0165165de...@mx2.lab.local>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I hope those of us that purchased the old BLS are entitled to the new
material until we pass:



http://www.ipexpert.com/Guarantee



This is one of the big reasons I use IPExpert (that and of course they
rock :))





-Original Message-
From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan
Charles
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 7:34 AM
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 and Videos?



Were they supposed to be out today?



Also, if those of us with pre-existing BLS are not entitled to the new

material, how do we go about getting the upgrade?







Jonathan

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From: smael 
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 and Videos?
To: Jason Granat , Jonathan Charles
,"ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com"

Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I purchased the latest BLS for V3 lab by the June 30th, 2009 deadline,
but
it came loaded with the older version.

It should be a supported upgrade




On 7/31/09 10:39 AM, "Jason Granat"  wrote:

> I hope those of us that purchased the old BLS are entitled to the new
material
> until we pass:
>  
> http://www.ipexpert.com/Guarantee
>  
> This is one of the big reasons I use IPExpert (that and of course they
rock J)
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan
Charles
> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 7:34 AM
> To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 and Videos?
>  
> Were they supposed to be out today?
>  
> Also, if those of us with pre-existing BLS are not entitled to the new
> material, how do we go about getting the upgrade?
>  
>  
>  
> Jonathan
> ___
> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
please
> visit www.ipexpert.com
> 
> 
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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Gen 2 IP hones

[Willie McAllister]

Are there any other free IP phone products out there that we can use
that will be Gen 2 IP phones, similar to the IP blue Gen 1 7960 IP
phones? Thanks

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 and Videos?

[Mike Down]

The VOD should be shipping today/Monday at the latest.  Existing customers
are entitled to the updates.  I would suggest you following our blog at
http://ipexpert.ccieblog.com for information regarding product releases,
special promotions and techtorials.

 
Best wishes, 
Mike Down

Training Advisor - Proctor Labs, Inc.

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   3. Re: Volume 2 and Videos? (smael)
   4. Re: IPBlue 7962 support. (ccieid1ot)
   5. Re: Volume 2 and Videos? (ctpresident)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:34:01 -0500
From: Jonathan Charles 
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 and Videos?
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Message-ID:
<5d093f9a0907310734i7812e07dv17c345a94f077...@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Were they supposed to be out today?

Also, if those of us with pre-existing BLS are not entitled to the new
material, how do we go about getting the upgrade?



Jonathan


--

Message: 2
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:39:42 -0700
From: Jason Granat 
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 and Videos?
To: Jonathan Charles ,
"ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com"

Message-ID:
<4b7c6fa1c76f2e45b236701f379ad4ad0165165de...@mx2.lab.local>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I hope those of us that purchased the old BLS are entitled to the new
material until we pass:



http://www.ipexpert.com/Guarantee



This is one of the big reasons I use IPExpert (that and of course they rock
:))





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[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan
Charles
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 7:34 AM
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 and Videos?



Were they supposed to be out today?



Also, if those of us with pre-existing BLS are not entitled to the new

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From: smael 
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 and Videos?
To: Jason Granat , Jonathan Charles
,"ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com"

Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I purchased the latest BLS for V3 lab by the June 30th, 2009 deadline, but
it came loaded with the older version.

It should be a supported upgrade




On 7/31/09 10:39 AM, "Jason Granat"  wrote:

> I hope those of us that purchased the old BLS are entitled to the new
material
> until we pass:
>  
> http://www.ipexpert.com/Guarantee
>  
> This is one of the big reasons I use IPExpert (that and of course they
rock J)
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan
Charles
> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 7:34 AM
> To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 and Videos?
>  
> Were they supposed to be out today?
>  
> Also, if those of us with pre-existing BLS are not entitled to the new
> material, how do we go about getting the upgrade?
>  
>  
>  
> Jonathan
> ___
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> visit www.ipexpert.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
&

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Presence integration issue

[chikki venu]

hi,
 
i have done some cups labs.
 
here my readings on it
 
1. we can do without AD
2. we cannot do without DNS. Casue DNS = SIP = DNS. Since we are purly working 
on sip stack i see we need this for presence to work properly
 
i have made a video on integration which i will be posting on my blog very soon.
 
my blog site called http://chikkis.blogspot.com/
 
i hope will be able to upload the video on fileshare site today itself. so stay 
tuned:)
 
Hope this helps 
Happy labbing
chikkis

--- On Fri, 7/31/09, Aamir Panjwani  wrote:


From: Aamir Panjwani 
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Presence integration issue
To: "Jeff Cotter" , ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 6:58 PM








Thanks Jeff, very interesting indeed, as you said the key point is it’s not 
recommended but still achievable without AD/DNS. The question is how ? J 
Perhaps other people on this forum may contribute their findings? As AD/DNS 
won’t be available in the real lab, it would be quite a challenge to complete 
this task
 


From: Jeff Cotter [mailto:jcot...@voxns.com] 
Sent: Friday, 31 July 2009 8:59 PM
To: Aamir Panjwani; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: RE: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Presence integration issue
 
Aamir, the only way I was able to get presence/IM working was to setup AD/DNS.  
I was never able to get it working without.  I also found a pretty good book on 
CUPS which has some really good troubleshooting tips.  BTW, this book says CUP 
without AD is not recommended.  Does not say it won’t work just not 
recommended.  Title is “Deploying Cisco Unified Presence” author is HouTong 
Luo, CCIE no. 6183 available at Amazon.
 
 
 


From: Aamir Panjwani [mailto:aamir.panjw...@ivision.com.au] 
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 11:25 PM
To: Jeff Cotter; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: RE: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Presence integration issue
 
Hi Guys,
 
I am also running into exact same problem Jeff mentioned below. Everything 
works except presence/IM. I would be keen to know if someone else managed to 
have a fully functional CUPC going without AD/DNS.
 
Can some please point me in the right direction
 
Thanks
 


From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com 
[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Cotter
Sent: Sunday, 14 June 2009 9:54 AM
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Presence integration issue
 
I appear to have everything working EXCEPT presence.  Personal Communicator is 
showing limited connectivity…no presence information..indicates off line and 
grayed out….I can make and receive calls, view voicemail  and use IP phone 
messenger.   Troubleshooting window indicates all green checkmarks  Based 
on a Cisco troubleshooting document I found, I am being pointed to the Proxy 
Domain name under 
System>Service Parameters> my cups server>Cisco UP Sip Proxy.
 
I am not sure what to enter here as I do not seem to have a domain name 
configured on either CUCM or CUPS (at least that I can find). Any help would be 
appreciated.  Thanks
 
 
 

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 and Videos?

[ctpresident]

Yeah, I don't think we need to be stressed about this. I received the BLS
material last year (all the V2 stuff), and like clockwork have had access to
all the updated workbooks as they were released. There's no need to panic,
they'll deliver.

It's gonna be awesome!!!

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 4:45 PM, smael  wrote:

>  I purchased the latest BLS for V3 lab by the June 30th, 2009 deadline,
> but it came loaded with the older version.
>
> It should be a supported upgrade
>
>
>
>
>
> On 7/31/09 10:39 AM, "Jason Granat"  wrote:
>
> I hope those of us that purchased the old BLS are entitled to the new
> material until we pass:
>
> http://www.ipexpert.com/Guarantee
>
> This is one of the big reasons I use IPExpert (that and of course they rock
> J)
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [
> mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com]
> On Behalf Of Jonathan Charles
> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 7:34 AM
> To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 and Videos?
>
> Were they supposed to be out today?
>
> Also, if those of us with pre-existing BLS are not entitled to the new
> material, how do we go about getting the upgrade?
>
>
>
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IPBlue 7962 support.

[ccieid1ot]

Correct.  79X1 does not support ILBC.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Michael
Ciarfello wrote:
> Hi Chris,
> I am pretty sure the x1 phones can USE g722 (turn on advertise g722 codec. 
> Might need to do a couple other things.)  You just won't be able to HEAR the 
> g722 quality unless you have the new handset that comes with the x2/x5, etc 
> phones.  You can purchase the handset as a spare part.  I think it was almost 
> cheaper to get a new phone.  We don't need to hear the quality, just see g722 
> show up on the information screen.
>
> oh, here it is:
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps8737/index.html
> oh again, that's not bad.  $25 and if you are paying $25 you are getting 
> robbed.  I should get some.
>
>
> I don't think the x1's will do ILBC though.  Haven't tried it yet.
>
> 
> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com 
> [ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Chris Parker 
> [cpar...@cparker.us]
> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 11:51 PM
> To: Mark Snow
> Cc: OSL Group; Vik Malhi
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IPBlue 7962 support.
>
> What about the 79X1 phones? Are there any problems using those? I have a
> mix of 79X2 and 79X1 in my lab. From what I have seen so far they seem
> to be functioning the same way. I know that the 79X2 phone have things
> like G.722. But in terms of what we know from the blueprint is there any
> reason to think we shouldn't use the 79X1's?
>
> Chris
>
> Mark Snow wrote:
>> Yeah, sigh  IPBlue told us they were releasing build .245 with
>> support for 7962 phone type - about 8 weeks ago - but upon checking
>> yesterday, the current download build is still .230 with no support.
>>
>> I have their beta of .245 - and while I can tell you that it will
>> register as a 7962, that's about as far as it goes in terms of
>> "looking like" or "acting like" a 7962 or any Gen 2 telecaster phone
>> for that matter. In fact many softkeys that are present on the IPblue
>> phone, and "supposed" to work, I'm sorry to say, simply don't.
>>
>> Reality is, the IPBlue softphone isn't anything more than a Gen 1
>> phone (e.g. 7940 / 7960) in terms of functionality. Sure it registers
>> as a 7961 or even 7962 when they release .245 build - but it still
>> only does what a Gen 1 phone will do.
>>
>> Which for the new v3 CCIE Voice lab, I can most assuredly say, is not
>> nearly enough.
>>
>> Truth is that if you want to be at all prepared for this new lab,
>> you really HAVE to have hardware Gen 2 for your CUCM/CUCME phones.
>> (7960 is still more than fine for your PSTN phone - so IPBlue if you
>> like).
>>
>>
>> Sorry for the bad news,
>>
>> --
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>> CCIE #14073 (Voice, Security)
>>
>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>>
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>> Fax: +1.309.413.4097
>> Mailto: ms...@ipexpert.com 
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>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 30, 2009, at 10:41 AM, Kevin Damisch wrote:
>>
>>> Vik, what version are you using?  This is a screenshot of mine with
>>> version 2.11.1.230 (latest one published as of today) and I don’t see
>>> a 7962 as a choice.  Can you give me the version number and/or
>>> screenshot of yours?
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Thanks,**
>>> *Kevin*
>>>
>>> *From:* ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
>>> 
>>> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] *On Behalf Of *Vik Malhi
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:31 AM
>>> *To:* Bill Hatcher; OSL Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IPBlue 7962 support.
>>>
>>>
>>> The latest version from IP Blue supports the phone type=7962.
>>>
>>> Why the change? We weren’t sure of phone type when we first started
>>> and around the time of writing lab 5 it became clear that to us that
>>> the device type used in the lab was going to be 7962/7965.
>>>
>>> Do you absolutely have to use 7962? No you don’t because a 7961 will
>>> be sufficient. However if you are using Proctorlabs rack rental when
>>> you load lab configs the snapshot of our UCM’s contain pre-configured
>>> phones using device type=7962. Unfortunately you will not simply be
>>> able to change the mac address of these pre-configured devices since
>>> the device type won’t match and you cannot change device type on the
>>> fly. So going fwd, if you are intending to use PL rack rental with
>>> the load lab configs its worthwhile upgrading the IP Blue software-
>>> don’t think there is a cost if you have a valid license.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Vik Malhi – CCIE #13890
>>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>>>
>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
>>> Fax: +1.8

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 and Videos?

[Jason Granat]

I hope those of us that purchased the old BLS are entitled to the new material 
until we pass:



http://www.ipexpert.com/Guarantee



This is one of the big reasons I use IPExpert (that and of course they rock :))





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From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com 
[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Charles
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 7:34 AM
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 and Videos?



Were they supposed to be out today?



Also, if those of us with pre-existing BLS are not entitled to the new

material, how do we go about getting the upgrade?







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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 and Videos?

[smael]

I purchased the latest BLS for V3 lab by the June 30th, 2009 deadline, but
it came loaded with the older version.

It should be a supported upgrade




On 7/31/09 10:39 AM, "Jason Granat"  wrote:

> I hope those of us that purchased the old BLS are entitled to the new material
> until we pass:
>  
> http://www.ipexpert.com/Guarantee
>  
> This is one of the big reasons I use IPExpert (that and of course they rock J)
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Charles
> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 7:34 AM
> To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 and Videos?
>  
> Were they supposed to be out today?
>  
> Also, if those of us with pre-existing BLS are not entitled to the new
> material, how do we go about getting the upgrade?
>  
>  
>  
> Jonathan
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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Volume 2 and Videos?

[Jonathan Charles]

Were they supposed to be out today?

Also, if those of us with pre-existing BLS are not entitled to the new
material, how do we go about getting the upgrade?



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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Presence integration issue

[Aamir Panjwani]

Thanks Jeff, very interesting indeed, as you said the key point is it's
not recommended but still achievable without AD/DNS. The question is how
? J Perhaps other people on this forum may contribute their findings? As
AD/DNS won't be available in the real lab, it would be quite a challenge
to complete this task

 

From: Jeff Cotter [mailto:jcot...@voxns.com] 
Sent: Friday, 31 July 2009 8:59 PM
To: Aamir Panjwani; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: RE: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Presence integration issue

 

Aamir, the only way I was able to get presence/IM working was to setup
AD/DNS.  I was never able to get it working without.  I also found a
pretty good book on CUPS which has some really good troubleshooting
tips.  BTW, this book says CUP without AD is not recommended.  Does not
say it won't work just not recommended.  Title is "Deploying Cisco
Unified Presence" author is HouTong Luo, CCIE no. 6183 available at
Amazon.

 

 

 

From: Aamir Panjwani [mailto:aamir.panjw...@ivision.com.au] 
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 11:25 PM
To: Jeff Cotter; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: RE: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Presence integration issue

 

Hi Guys,

 

I am also running into exact same problem Jeff mentioned below.
Everything works except presence/IM. I would be keen to know if someone
else managed to have a fully functional CUPC going without AD/DNS.

 

Can some please point me in the right direction

 

Thanks

 

From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Cotter
Sent: Sunday, 14 June 2009 9:54 AM
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Presence integration issue

 

I appear to have everything working EXCEPT presence.  Personal
Communicator is showing limited connectivity...no presence
information..indicates off line and grayed outI can make and receive
calls, view voicemail  and use IP phone messenger.   Troubleshooting
window indicates all green checkmarks  Based on a Cisco
troubleshooting document I found, I am being pointed to the Proxy Domain
name under 

System>Service Parameters> my cups server>Cisco UP Sip Proxy.

 

I am not sure what to enter here as I do not seem to have a domain name
configured on either CUCM or CUPS (at least that I can find). Any help
would be appreciated.  Thanks

 

 

 


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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Presence integration issue

[Jeff Cotter]

Aamir, the only way I was able to get presence/IM working was to setup AD/DNS.  
I was never able to get it working without.  I also found a pretty good book on 
CUPS which has some really good troubleshooting tips.  BTW, this book says CUP 
without AD is not recommended.  Does not say it won't work just not 
recommended.  Title is "Deploying Cisco Unified Presence" author is HouTong 
Luo, CCIE no. 6183 available at Amazon.



From: Aamir Panjwani [mailto:aamir.panjw...@ivision.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 11:25 PM
To: Jeff Cotter; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: RE: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Presence integration issue

Hi Guys,

I am also running into exact same problem Jeff mentioned below. Everything 
works except presence/IM. I would be keen to know if someone else managed to 
have a fully functional CUPC going without AD/DNS.

Can some please point me in the right direction

Thanks

From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com 
[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Cotter
Sent: Sunday, 14 June 2009 9:54 AM
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Presence integration issue

I appear to have everything working EXCEPT presence.  Personal Communicator is 
showing limited connectivity...no presence information..indicates off line and 
grayed outI can make and receive calls, view voicemail  and use IP phone 
messenger.   Troubleshooting window indicates all green checkmarks  Based 
on a Cisco troubleshooting document I found, I am being pointed to the Proxy 
Domain name under
System>Service Parameters> my cups server>Cisco UP Sip Proxy.

I am not sure what to enter here as I do not seem to have a domain name 
configured on either CUCM or CUPS (at least that I can find). Any help would be 
appreciated.  Thanks




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