A touching story...

[Adam Churvis]

Got this today from an old firearms mentor of mine:

 

A hunter and his friend were sitting in a tall tower stand near Highway 481
in Maverick Co., TX early one cold December mid-morning. Suddenly, a huge
buck walked out over to the corn they had spread in the scrub. Moving
quickly, the hunter carefully aimed his 300 Win Mag at the unsuspecting
buck.

 

As he was about to squeeze the trigger on this deer of a lifetime, his
friend alerted him to a funeral procession passing slowly down State highway
481. The hunter pulled away from the gunstock, set the rifle down, took off
his hat, bowed his head, and then closed his eyes in prayer.

 

His friend was stunned. "Wow, that is the most thoughtful and touching thing
I have ever seen you do. You are indeed the kindest man I have ever known,
and I feel lucky to call you a friend."

 

The hunter sighed and shrugged, "Yeah, well, we were married for 35 years."

 

Respectfully,

 

Adam Phillip Churvis 

President

Productivity Enhancement

 



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RE: CF-Community Presidential Poll

[Adam Churvis]

> As I understand it, a national sales tax would tax "new goods"
> bringing up the question of how one defines "new".  12 volumes of tax
> code could be replaced by 50 volumes of goods definitions.

No, actually, it's very simple: goods and services sold to a consumer at the
retail level, period.  (somebody correct me if I remember this incorrectly
from the book).

> And then the problem with a flat tax is that it disproportionately
> taxes lower income people and so you need exceptions for this and that
> and pretty soon you have 12 volumes of tax code again.

Absolutely not, and this is one of the biggest misunderstandings of the Fair
Tax.  Each month, at the *beginning* of the month, everyone -- *EVERYONE* --
receives an automatic "prebate" of the entire tax burden on their family up
to the level of poverty.  So if the definition of poverty for a family with
two children is X, then 1/12th of 23% of X is pre-paid to the head of
household for that family at the beginning of each month, regardless of
their financial situation.  This completely eliminates 100% of all taxes on
everyone up to the poverty line.  And banks are chomping at the bit to setup
debit card accounts that the government can automatically drop these funds
into.

> And if you look at who pays taxes it's mostly rich folk:


Under the Fair Tax, the rich will end up paying a substantially higher
portion of the country's taxes, because it's entirely a consumption-based
tax.  And when you consider what will happen when offshore tax havens are
eliminated through the Fair Tax, it gets even better.

Really, you ought to read the book first.  It's a quick yet engaging read,
and it will explain away all your worries through straightforward logic and
reasoning.

Respectfully,

Adam Phillip Churvis 
President
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Re: Mary Jo on ZDNet

[Erika L. Walker]

LOL +5

On 1/26/08, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> All you all need to go smoke another one
>
> On Jan 25, 2008 11:53 AM, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Who is Mary Jo Foley? I've never seen her name on the listhave I?
> >
> > On Jan 25, 2008 2:42 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1131&tag=nl.e589
> > >
> > > Was weird to see that name pop up in my ZDNet email.
> > >
> > > Good to put a face with the name.
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Friday Late Night: Who's around?

[Erika L. Walker]

LOL!  You wouldn't think so, but for some really odd reason, it mellows my
brain out a little and actually lets me focus on this one thing. Usually my
brain is running in so many different directions, trying to get a bunch of
different things accomplished. Blah.

Got most of it sorted ... few more things. :)

On 1/26/08, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yep, _that's_ going to help.
>
> Lol!
>


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Re: Friday Late Night: Who's around?

[Jerry Johnson]

Yep, _that's_ going to help.

Lol!


On Jan 26, 2008 1:21 AM, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Glad to see some of you up and about. I'm struggling with CSS for some
> god-unknown reason. On my 4th jack and coke.

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Re: Friday Late Night: Who's around?

[Erika L. Walker]

Glad to see some of you up and about. I'm struggling with CSS for some
god-unknown reason. On my 4th jack and coke.


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Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll

[morgan l]

That's a very apt, and at the same time disturbing, analogy...

On Jan 25, 2008 10:08 PM, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It's like trying not to rubberneck at a train wreck isn't it?
>
> On 1/25/08, morgan l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > .
> > Dammit, I swore I'd stay out of these political discussions.
> >
>
>
> 

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Re: Mary Jo on ZDNet

[Dana]

All you all need to go smoke another one

On Jan 25, 2008 11:53 AM, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Who is Mary Jo Foley? I've never seen her name on the listhave I?
>
> On Jan 25, 2008 2:42 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1131&tag=nl.e589
> >
> > Was weird to see that name pop up in my ZDNet email.
> >
> > Good to put a face with the name.
>
> 

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Re: Friday Late Night: Who's around?

[Dana]

I am doing the network security thing tonight.

Dana
Securing the web for a better tomorrow

On Jan 25, 2008 10:21 PM, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Very sad.
>
> But I am here with you.
>
> I am trying to get a remote call to a cfc working, and once I get that
> done, I am going to finish writing a calendar template for wordpress.
>
> might sneak some sleep in the middle there.
>
> On Jan 25, 2008 11:52 PM, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Am I the only one up late tonight? The man is playing poker, and I
> decided
> > to work instead.
> >
> > So sitting at the casino cafe/bar, listening to my Zune, blocking out
> the
> > slot machines, drinking my free jack and cokes and coding away...
> >
> > how sad is that ...
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Friday Late Night: Who's around?

[Jerry Johnson]

Very sad.

But I am here with you.

I am trying to get a remote call to a cfc working, and once I get that
done, I am going to finish writing a calendar template for wordpress.

might sneak some sleep in the middle there.

On Jan 25, 2008 11:52 PM, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Am I the only one up late tonight? The man is playing poker, and I decided
> to work instead.
>
> So sitting at the casino cafe/bar, listening to my Zune, blocking out the
> slot machines, drinking my free jack and cokes and coding away...
>
> how sad is that ...
>
>
> 

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Re: Friday Late Night: Who's around?

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

that's pitiful...still, at least you're drinking jack and cokes!


On Jan 25, 2008 10:52 PM, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Am I the only one up late tonight? The man is playing poker, and I decided
> to work instead.
>
> So sitting at the casino cafe/bar, listening to my Zune, blocking out the
> slot machines, drinking my free jack and cokes and coding away...
>
> how sad is that ...
>
>
> 

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Re: Friday Late Night: Who's around?

[Bruce Sorge]

I am also working. However, I am poor and cannot afford to go to a 
bar/casino since I work in the public sector. LOL. Working at home instead.


Bruce

Erika L. Walker wrote:
> Am I the only one up late tonight? The man is playing poker, and I decided
> to work instead.
>
> So sitting at the casino cafe/bar, listening to my Zune, blocking out the
> slot machines, drinking my free jack and cokes and coding away...
>
> how sad is that ...
>   

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Friday Late Night: Who's around?

[Erika L. Walker]

Am I the only one up late tonight? The man is playing poker, and I decided
to work instead.

So sitting at the casino cafe/bar, listening to my Zune, blocking out the
slot machines, drinking my free jack and cokes and coding away...

how sad is that ...


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Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll

[Dana]

um. You are bringing logic to an ideological fight. I actually lose money
under the fair tax btw about 900. So I would not be a fan.

On Jan 25, 2008 12:25 PM, morgan l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Well, I could move to MS (just one example of a very low cost-of-living
> area), where the cost of living is about 1/2 of where I live. I'd lose my
> job, meaning I'd end up making minimum wage... way less than 1/2 of what I
> make now. I'd be even worse off. Of course, I'd make low enough income to
> go
> on welfare and foodstamps.
>
> I already live in the lowest-cost region for 100's of miles. And the job I
> have pays twice what I've ever made before, significantly more than what
> my
> neighbors bring in, and significantly more than most employers would pay
> for
> someone with my education background, despite my actual ability.
>
> So yes, I choose to stay in my affordable, modest-sized single-family (as
> long as the "family" has no kids) home, making middle-class income rather
> than going on welfare. Because honestly, those are my only options.
>
> On Jan 25, 2008 12:47 PM, Peterson, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > You do make a choice to stay living in the area you are, with the job
> > you have.  Being fearful of a choice does not invalidate that a choice
> > existed!
> >
> > Chris Peterson
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: morgan l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:44 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll
> >
> > Yeah, been there; read that. Sounds great, for people who spend < 60% of
> > their income--you only get taxed on 60% of your income. Those of us who
> > spend closer to 100%, or even more than that with credit, are screwed.
> > Ok,
> > so if they're spending more via credit, they're doing it to themselves.
> > But
> > for me, living paycheck to paycheck barely getting by, unable to save
> > any of
> > my monthly income, I'd actually pay significantly more in taxes that way
> > that the current system. Doesn't quite seem "fair" to me.
> >
> > And I don't exactly choose to spend 100% of my monthly income, unless
> > choosing to buy groceries, live in a meager/affordable home, and drive
> > to
> > work (no public transportation available) so I can keep my paycheck
> > coming
> > in are choices. I'm not talking extravagant expenses like HDTVs or PS3s.
> >
> > Dammit, I swore I'd stay out of these political discussions.
> >
> >
> > On Jan 25, 2008 10:29 AM, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > http://www.fairtax.org
> > >
> > > --
> > > Scott Stewart
> > > ColdFusion Developer
> > >
> > > SSTWebworks
> > > 4405 Oakshyre Way
> > > Raleigh, NC. 27616
> > > (919) 874-6229 (home)
> > > (703) 220-2835 (cell)
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:03 AM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll
> > >
> > > Yes actually.  It's much much more.
> > >
> > > -Cameron
> > >
> > > Billy Cox wrote:
> > > > Are you saying that it is something other than a 20%+ national sales
> > tax
> > > > along with the repeal of the federal income tax?
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll

[Dana]

yeah but it isn't a progressive tax is my issue

On Jan 25, 2008 7:44 AM, Peterson, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I think the flat tax on purchases would be easier to manage.  It would
> be just like state taxes, only standardized across the US for federal.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 9:23 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll
>
> Billy Cox wrote:
> > To boil it down, we lower the tax burden on the rich and we raise the
> tax
> > burden on the poor. I don't see this ever becoming reality, but if it
> did,
> > it would be just as convoluted as the current income tax system and
> the
> > 'fair' title would be a joke
>
> Any tax plan is going to become convoluted after a few years - that's
> what congress does.  Careful not to throw the baby out with the
> bathwater.
>
> -Cameron
>
>
>
> 

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Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll

[Erika L. Walker]

It's like trying not to rubberneck at a train wreck isn't it?

On 1/25/08, morgan l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> .
> Dammit, I swore I'd stay out of these political discussions.
>


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Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll

[Erika L. Walker]

Tsk tsk. :) s'ok.

/me waits to hijack one of Morgan's threads ...


On 1/25/08, morgan l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Damn, I just realised I managed to get on another hijack of one of Erika's
> threads. -d'oh!
>
> To the topic: I haven't a clue who'll win! I'm not sure I like any of
> their
> platforms enough to even pull for one over the other. All those "political
> match" quizzes put me at barely over 50% matching to any candidate, and
> none
> of them agree which is a higher match, lol...I guess my political ideal
> simply doesn't exist.


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Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll

[C. Hatton Humphrey]

> > Kucinich/Paul comes to mind...
>
> The two nuts?

Yeah, but one of them already bolted!

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Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll

[Sam]

The two nuts?


On Jan 25, 2008 5:25 PM, Crow T. Robot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> sadly, i think that if we were **required** to educate ourselves prior to
> the caucuses/primaries, most people would find themselves drawn to a
> "lesser" candidate, but the big Dem/Repub machines really dedicate
> themselves to pushing through those that tout the party lines.  Who really
> sees themselves as a straight-up red/blue member?
>
> Kucinich/Paul comes to mind...
>

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Re: insideria.com - anyone see this yet?

[Tony]

oh yeah, my buddy andy trice is rockin on there.

cool shit

On Jan 25, 2008 8:57 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.insideria.com/
>
> From the O'Reilly newsletter:
>
>  Just out this week is our new web site
> InsideRIA.com,
> an online community developed by O'Reilly and sponsored by Adobe Systems
> Incorporated. Our goal is to create an invaluable resource for information
> on the ever-changing state of design and development of rich Internet
> applications (RIAs).
>
>
> --
> ---
> Robert Munn
> www.emergentpath.com
>
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Re: Friday funny (SFW)

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

:)


On Jan 25, 2008 6:06 PM, Dr. Who <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> and that beats what the country is feeling curently & the pounding it
> has had over the last 7 years...
>
> surprised "the country" can sit down...
>
> 

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insideria.com - anyone see this yet?

[Robert Munn]

http://www.insideria.com/

>From the O'Reilly newsletter:

 Just out this week is our new web site
InsideRIA.com,
an online community developed by O'Reilly and sponsored by Adobe Systems
Incorporated. Our goal is to create an invaluable resource for information
on the ever-changing state of design and development of rich Internet
applications (RIAs).


-- 
---
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Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll

[Crow T. Robot]

sadly, i think that if we were **required** to educate ourselves prior to
the caucuses/primaries, most people would find themselves drawn to a
"lesser" candidate, but the big Dem/Repub machines really dedicate
themselves to pushing through those that tout the party lines.  Who really
sees themselves as a straight-up red/blue member?

Kucinich/Paul comes to mind...

On Jan 25, 2008 3:17 PM, morgan l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> In fairness, their calculator does show an increase in income. And nowhere
> near enough to put me in favor of it. More like it's a wash. My own
> quick-and-dirty math had it at somewhat less spendable income. The cynic
> in
> me keeps saying that of course their calculator is going to show it's
> better
> for me. I think the results posted on-list prove that it really benefits
> people that already have disposable income, and would barely affect those
> of
> lower income levels, like myself, who have little to no disposable income.
>
> And really, unless I make 100K a year, a 1% increase in annual spending
> money is negligible. I'd be insulted if my job offered me something like
> that.
> Damn, I just realised I managed to get on another hijack of one of Erika's
> threads. -d'oh!
>
> To the topic: I haven't a clue who'll win! I'm not sure I like any of
> their
> platforms enough to even pull for one over the other. All those "political
> match" quizzes put me at barely over 50% matching to any candidate, and
> none
> of them agree which is a higher match, lol...I guess my political ideal
> simply doesn't exist.
> On Jan 25, 2008 2:21 PM, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Morgan-
> >
> > So it's really good for you, though not spectacular in the way it was
> > for some others on the list.  Granted this is all theoretical, but it
> > does pretty much destroy your arguments when you said: "for me, living
> > paycheck to paycheck barely getting by, unable to save any of my monthly
> > income, I'd actually pay significantly more in taxes that way that the
> > current system. Doesn't quite seem "fair" to me."
> >
> > So using their numbers, while it's not great for you, it's not actually
> > bad.
> >
> > -Cameron
>
>
> 

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Re: Friday funny (SFW)

[Larry Lyons]

>So what you're trying to say is that Hillary is the woman and the man
>on the ground represents the Islamic countries that give women a 2nd
>class status...and this is how she'll treat them.
>
>I right there with ya dude.


You're right about the woman, the guy however are how the conservatives are 
going to feel after the next election. 

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Re: Friday funny (SFW)

[Crow T. Robot]

Haha...not quite what was thinking.  I was just posting for the funny.
Taking an apolitical stance on this one.

Is that a word?  Apolitical?  :)

On Jan 25, 2008 5:11 PM, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I was thinking that this was more like how the country would feel.
>
> Bruce
>
> Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
> > So what you're trying to say is that Hillary is the woman and the man
> > on the ground represents the Islamic countries that give women a 2nd
> > class status...and this is how she'll treat them.
> >
> > I right there with ya dude.
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Vegas fire

[Rick Root]

>From the CNN article

> Firefighters would remain at the hotel until "the fire is completely
> knocked out," said Clark County Fire Chief Steven M. Smith

Ya think?  Or maybe they'll leave before the fire is under control.

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Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll

[Gruss Gott]

> Adam wrote:
> What I'd like to see is a complete elimination of all taxes except the Fair
> Tax, and just increase the tax percentage on the Fair Tax until it funds the
> equivalent of what it did before there was a Fair tax.
>

As I understand it, a national sales tax would tax "new goods"
bringing up the question of how one defines "new".  12 volumes of tax
code could be replaced by 50 volumes of goods definitions.

And then the problem with a flat tax is that it disproportionately
taxes lower income people and so you need exceptions for this and that
and pretty soon you have 12 volumes of tax code again.

And if you look at who pays taxes it's mostly rich folk:  If you
define "middle class" to include the three middle quintiles, from the
20th percentile to the 80th percentile, they would only be paying 31.8
percent of the tax burden despite earning 43.2 percent of the nation's
income, according to CBO.

E.g., Households making pre-tax $40,000 or less per year paid 5% of
all federal income tax in 2005 while filers making $225,000 or more
paid 70%!

Put another way, those making $40,000/yr pay 10% in federal taxes and
those making $250,000/yr pay 25%

While I hate taxes, I haven't heard of a more workable solution than
the one we have - but I sure do LOVE the flat tax.

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Re: whatchya think?

[Dinner]

On Jan 25, 2008 6:32 AM, Adam Churvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Take a look at how PowerPoint does its reflective title page type:
> > the base
> > > of the main object appears below the horizon, and the fade is more
> > subtle
> > > and more rapidly dissolving from that point downward.
> >
> > Maybe it's on a shinyer surface :-P
>
> It's not about being shinier or not; it's the overall effect, including the
> perception of distance.  Take a look at PowerPoint 2007's themes that use
> this effect and you can see the difference.

I don't have a copy of PowerPoint 2007.  :-)

So far, OpenOffice has been a real trooper for me.  Color me impressed!

I was just joshing you, Adam.

There's no accounting for taste. :-)

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Re: whatchya think?

[Dinner]

On Jan 25, 2008 6:30 AM, Deanna Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You know, I know I'm old school about this, but I have issues with a
> site where you can't get to any of the content if you turn off
> javascript, and you can't send a link to anything but the home page
> for no particular reason other than "it looks cool." I've got no
> problem ajax when it adds functionality to the user experience (like
> gmail, for instance). But when it's only purpose is eye candy? Nope,
> I'm not down with that.

Hey, sometimes it's all about the eye candy, and very little about
anything else.

Part of the superficial world we live in, I guess.

Anyways: This is one of the things I like about dojo-- it allows for
some pretty slick degrading, so you can have just about everything
work with, or without JS.

Especially if you aren't shy of framesets for the non-js version.  :-)

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Re: Friday funny (SFW)

[Dr. Who]

and that beats what the country is feeling curently & the pounding it
has had over the last 7 years...

surprised "the country" can sit down...

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Re: Friday funny (SFW)

[Gruss Gott]

> Zap wrote:
> So what you're trying to say is that Hillary is the woman and the man
> on the ground represents the Islamic countries that give women a 2nd
> class status...and this is how she'll treat them.
>
> I right there with ya dude.
>

Naw, that guy on the ground is Chuck Norris.  To bitch slap Huckabee
out of race, Hil has to get through Chuck first.

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Re: Friday funny (SFW)

[Bruce Sorge]

I was thinking that this was more like how the country would feel.

Bruce

Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
> So what you're trying to say is that Hillary is the woman and the man
> on the ground represents the Islamic countries that give women a 2nd
> class status...and this is how she'll treat them.
>
> I right there with ya dude.
>
>   
>

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RE: Vegas fire

[Jacob]

None reported.

What amazes me is there was video of people, with their luggage, coming out
of the hotel when it was being evacuated!  If you are evacuated from a
building, plane, office, etc... leave!!!  Dirty clothes are not worth more
than your life.

Reminds me of an youtube video:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTcjJoIWJQ4 (SFW)



-Original Message-
From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 12:04 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Vegas fire

Just noticed it on CNN.COM...looks like a pretty good one. Any reports of
injuries or..?

On Jan 25, 2008 1:35 PM, Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Anybody see the video from Vegas on the hotel fire?
>
>
> 



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RE: Cloverfield blows goats

[Adam Churvis]

> 8.  Only because I saw the splashy and because big monsters tearing
> down
> buildings is always fun.

Eight, huh?

Well, I can see that.

But still, blowing eight goats...

Reminds me of the time I interviewed Martin Brest, writer and director of
"Gigli":

AC: Martin, you have blown many goats during your career, have you not?

MB: Why yes I have, Adam.  It all started in 1972 with my directorial debut,
"Hot Dogs For Gauguin," where I blew no fewer than seven goats.

AC: Wow, seven goats right out of the chute.  That's impressive.

MB: Thanks.  Then it was onto "Hot Tomorrows," where I took on one more goat
for my troubles.

AC: A total of eight for that movie?

MB: That's right.

AC: When did you first realize that you were destined for goat-blowing
greatness?

MB: Adam, I think that had to be Meet Joe Black, where I took a classic
supernatural storyline that anyone would normally enjoy, covered it with
cold molasses, and then stretched it out so long that not even a Chihuahua
on speed could have kept from falling asleep.

AC: And for that you blew...?

MB: Nine.

AC: Nine goats a-blowin'!  Wow, that's an accomplishment.

MB: Not really.

AC: I feel you.  So... Gigli.  Talk to me.

MB: Not much to say.  It was July, 2002.  I had just finished praying to
Uhh-Duh, god of fucktards, where I had asked for a creative spark.  Uhh-Duh
inspired me to write a story about a mentally handicapped person, Ben
Affleck, and Jennifer Lopez.

AC: A tard, a turd, and a tart?

MB: Precisely.

AC: And for that you polished the goatly knob how many times?

MB: Ten.

AC: You rang the bell, in other words.

MB: You know, funny story about that, Adam.  You see, goats wear little
bells around their necks, so each time I lifted my--

AC: Thanks so much for joining us on VH-1 today, Martin.  That's all we have
time for on Movie Chat.  See you next week when we talk with Elaine May, who
hasn't directed since Ishtar over twenty years ago.  Bye!

Respectfully,

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President
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Re: Friday funny (SFW)

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

So what you're trying to say is that Hillary is the woman and the man
on the ground represents the Islamic countries that give women a 2nd
class status...and this is how she'll treat them.

I right there with ya dude.


On Jan 25, 2008 2:17 PM, Crow T. Robot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 10 second vid of what it would be like if Hillary got elected.
>
> http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=26186657
>
> :)
>
>
> 

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Re: Vegas fire

[William Bowen]

cnn is covering it

> BURN!
>
> Still no video feed to be found.  You got a link?
>
> On Jan 25, 2008 1:35 PM, Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Anybody see the video from Vegas on the hotel fire?


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RE: Vegas fire

[Jacob]

It is out now.

Next time I stay there, I am request a non smoking room...

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 12:21 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Vegas fire

BURN!

Still no video feed to be found.  You got a link?

On Jan 25, 2008 1:35 PM, Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Anybody see the video from Vegas on the hotel fire?
>
>
> 



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Re: Vegas fire

[Cameron Childress]

Yeah.  Monte Carlo - it's out now.

-Cameron

Jacob wrote:
> Anybody see the video from Vegas on the hotel fire?
>   

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Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll

[Cameron Childress]

Morgan-

So it's really good for you, though not spectacular in the way it was 
for some others on the list.  Granted this is all theoretical, but it 
does pretty much destroy your arguments when you said: "for me, living 
paycheck to paycheck barely getting by, unable to save any of my monthly 
income, I'd actually pay significantly more in taxes that way that the 
current system. Doesn't quite seem "fair" to me."

So using their numbers, while it's not great for you, it's not actually bad.

-Cameron

morgan l wrote:
> Had trouble finding the link, so here's the direct page:
> http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer?pagename=calculator
>
> I get +0.78% spendable income. Practically nothing. Certainly nothing to get
> excited about.
>
> Of course, the calculator is weighted with their "expert predictions", and
> changing from 10% price drop to 0% price drop, had the opposite of the
> expected effect; it actually raised my spendable income. And their
> calculation of my mortgage was almost half of what it actually is.
>   

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RE: Friday funny (SFW)

[Bruce]

LOL! Too funny and so true

-Original Message-
From: Crow T. Robot 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 12:18 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Friday funny (SFW)

10 second vid of what it would be like if Hillary got elected.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=2618665
7

:)


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Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll

[G Money]

On Jan 25, 2008 1:49 PM, Peterson, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> encourage internal country-wife industry


that's awesome...i'm going to start substituting "wife" for "wide" as
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Re: Cloverfield blows goats

[Todd]

8.  Only because I saw the splashy and because big monsters tearing down 
buildings is always fun.

- Original Message - 
From: "Adam Churvis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 1:49 PM
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> So, I gotta ask...
>
> How many Blown Goats do *you* give it?
>
> (remember: zero Blown Goats is something great like Godfather, 10 Blown
> Goats is Ishtar)
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Adam Phillip Churvis 


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Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll

[morgan l]

In fairness, their calculator does show an increase in income. And nowhere
near enough to put me in favor of it. More like it's a wash. My own
quick-and-dirty math had it at somewhat less spendable income. The cynic in
me keeps saying that of course their calculator is going to show it's better
for me. I think the results posted on-list prove that it really benefits
people that already have disposable income, and would barely affect those of
lower income levels, like myself, who have little to no disposable income.

And really, unless I make 100K a year, a 1% increase in annual spending
money is negligible. I'd be insulted if my job offered me something like
that.
Damn, I just realised I managed to get on another hijack of one of Erika's
threads. -d'oh!

To the topic: I haven't a clue who'll win! I'm not sure I like any of their
platforms enough to even pull for one over the other. All those "political
match" quizzes put me at barely over 50% matching to any candidate, and none
of them agree which is a higher match, lol...I guess my political ideal
simply doesn't exist.
On Jan 25, 2008 2:21 PM, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Morgan-
>
> So it's really good for you, though not spectacular in the way it was
> for some others on the list.  Granted this is all theoretical, but it
> does pretty much destroy your arguments when you said: "for me, living
> paycheck to paycheck barely getting by, unable to save any of my monthly
> income, I'd actually pay significantly more in taxes that way that the
> current system. Doesn't quite seem "fair" to me."
>
> So using their numbers, while it's not great for you, it's not actually
> bad.
>
> -Cameron


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Re: Vegas fire

[Deanna Schneider]

Not all that impressive:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/25/vegas.fire/index.html#cnnSTCVideo

On Jan 25, 2008 2:20 PM, Crow T. Robot  wrote:
> BURN!
>
> Still no video feed to be found.  You got a link?
>
>

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Friday funny (SFW)

[Crow T. Robot]

10 second vid of what it would be like if Hillary got elected.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=26186657

:)


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Re: Vegas fire

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/25/vegas.fire/index.html#cnnSTCVideo

On Jan 25, 2008 2:20 PM, Crow T. Robot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> BURN!
>
> Still no video feed to be found.  You got a link?
>
> On Jan 25, 2008 1:35 PM, Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Anybody see the video from Vegas on the hotel fire?
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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RE: CF-Community Presidential Poll

[Scott Stewart]

And how do you put a price on a hummer
Quality?

/me runs away laughing..

-- 
Scott Stewart
ColdFusion Developer
 
SSTWebworks
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-Original Message-
From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 2:02 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll

Yeah umm..but isn't this Fair Tax thing similar to what exists today
in the Cayman Islands?

The Caymans have no direct taxation of any kind on income or
corporations. They instead have indirect taxes on Imports etc.

"Caymanians and Caymanian companies are not subject to any form of
direct taxation. However, an import tax of between 5% and 20% is
levied on most imported goods. Import taxes on automobiles ranges from
27.5% to 40% for most vehicles while Hummers are taxed at 100% of
their value"



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Re: Vegas fire

[Crow T. Robot]

BURN!

Still no video feed to be found.  You got a link?

On Jan 25, 2008 1:35 PM, Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Anybody see the video from Vegas on the hotel fire?
>
>
> 

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Vegas fire

[Jacob]

Anybody see the video from Vegas on the hotel fire?


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Re: Vegas fire

[G Money]

Just noticed it on CNN.COM...looks like a pretty good one. Any reports of
injuries or..?

On Jan 25, 2008 1:35 PM, Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Anybody see the video from Vegas on the hotel fire?
>
>
> 

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RE: CF-Community Presidential Poll

[Peterson, Chris]

That's not too bad sounding... encourage internal country-wife industry
growth instead of making imports more favorable.



-Original Message-
From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 2:02 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll

Yeah umm..but isn't this Fair Tax thing similar to what exists today
in the Cayman Islands?

The Caymans have no direct taxation of any kind on income or
corporations. They instead have indirect taxes on Imports etc.

"Caymanians and Caymanian companies are not subject to any form of
direct taxation. However, an import tax of between 5% and 20% is
levied on most imported goods. Import taxes on automobiles ranges from
27.5% to 40% for most vehicles while Hummers are taxed at 100% of
their value"



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Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll

[morgan l]

Well, I could move to MS (just one example of a very low cost-of-living
area), where the cost of living is about 1/2 of where I live. I'd lose my
job, meaning I'd end up making minimum wage... way less than 1/2 of what I
make now. I'd be even worse off. Of course, I'd make low enough income to go
on welfare and foodstamps.

I already live in the lowest-cost region for 100's of miles. And the job I
have pays twice what I've ever made before, significantly more than what my
neighbors bring in, and significantly more than most employers would pay for
someone with my education background, despite my actual ability.

So yes, I choose to stay in my affordable, modest-sized single-family (as
long as the "family" has no kids) home, making middle-class income rather
than going on welfare. Because honestly, those are my only options.

On Jan 25, 2008 12:47 PM, Peterson, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> You do make a choice to stay living in the area you are, with the job
> you have.  Being fearful of a choice does not invalidate that a choice
> existed!
>
> Chris Peterson
>
> -Original Message-
> From: morgan l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:44 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll
>
> Yeah, been there; read that. Sounds great, for people who spend < 60% of
> their income--you only get taxed on 60% of your income. Those of us who
> spend closer to 100%, or even more than that with credit, are screwed.
> Ok,
> so if they're spending more via credit, they're doing it to themselves.
> But
> for me, living paycheck to paycheck barely getting by, unable to save
> any of
> my monthly income, I'd actually pay significantly more in taxes that way
> that the current system. Doesn't quite seem "fair" to me.
>
> And I don't exactly choose to spend 100% of my monthly income, unless
> choosing to buy groceries, live in a meager/affordable home, and drive
> to
> work (no public transportation available) so I can keep my paycheck
> coming
> in are choices. I'm not talking extravagant expenses like HDTVs or PS3s.
>
> Dammit, I swore I'd stay out of these political discussions.
>
>
> On Jan 25, 2008 10:29 AM, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > http://www.fairtax.org
> >
> > --
> > Scott Stewart
> > ColdFusion Developer
> >
> > SSTWebworks
> > 4405 Oakshyre Way
> > Raleigh, NC. 27616
> > (919) 874-6229 (home)
> > (703) 220-2835 (cell)
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:03 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll
> >
> > Yes actually.  It's much much more.
> >
> > -Cameron
> >
> > Billy Cox wrote:
> > > Are you saying that it is something other than a 20%+ national sales
> tax
> > > along with the repeal of the federal income tax?
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Upgrading to Vista Ultimate

[Tony]

flava, hit em with the S1W's

(aight chuck)

On Jan 24, 2008 8:15 AM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nope sorry wrong
>
> Never got sound running, wine was constantly hosed up and myth wouldn't work
> right.  F UBUNTU
>
> Don't, don't don't believe the hype
> Don't believe don't believe
> Don't believe the hype
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 2:09 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Upgrading to Vista Ultimate
>
> no, they have ubuntu.
>
> On Jan 23, 2008 11:04 AM, Casey Dougall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > On 1/23/08, Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Then why install vista? ;-)
> >
> >
> > Because all the cool kids have vista...
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 

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Re: OOPS, My Bad

[William Bowen]

> everyone should have "Time Machine"
>
> /pats the external drive chugging away at a current backup

agreed.

;-)
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and that would just be unacceptable."
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Re: Late night sci-fi (Re: Stargate SG1)

[William Bowen]

yeah... I found the 4 movie package of "series" one on amazon, but it
is not available on netflix.

searching for the individual titles on netflix comes up goose-egg too.

:-(

sounds like an interesting series...

On Jan 25, 2008 10:17 AM, Ben Doom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> IIRC, S1 was the movies, and S2-4 were the shows.  I could be wrong
> about that, though.
>
> William Bowen wrote:
> > Lexx Series 2-4 are available via Netflix, but not the first four movies...
> >
> > On Jan 25, 2008 7:51 AM, Ben Doom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Yep.  Seen TFPU.  Also had Malcom McDowell.  Interesting, but not my
> >> thing.  I didn't really like Lexx that much -- just the girls.  :-)
> >>
> >> --BenD
>
>
> 

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Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll

[Vivec]

Yeah umm..but isn't this Fair Tax thing similar to what exists today
in the Cayman Islands?

The Caymans have no direct taxation of any kind on income or
corporations. They instead have indirect taxes on Imports etc.

"Caymanians and Caymanian companies are not subject to any form of
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levied on most imported goods. Import taxes on automobiles ranges from
27.5% to 40% for most vehicles while Hummers are taxed at 100% of
their value"

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Re: Mary Jo on ZDNet

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

that's not our Mary Jo.  Our's is Sminkey.

On Jan 25, 2008 12:42 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1131&tag=nl.e589
>
> Was weird to see that name pop up in my ZDNet email.
>
> Good to put a face with the name.
>
> 

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Re: OOPS, My Bad

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

everyone should have "Time Machine"

/pats the external drive chugging away at a current backup



On Jan 25, 2008 11:55 AM, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > What does that have to do with it?
>
> sigh...
> Hazards of a busy day...
>
> there was supposed to be another (sarcastic) comment after the ellipsis.
>
> so it should have read:
>
> Besides the owner of the company, she was the only one that had full
> access to the files...
>
> why would we need to bother with a backup system? What could possibly 
> happen?
>
> Being in IT I hear this kind of crap all the time. Along with "backups
> take too long"; "it's too difficult to figure out how to restore
> stuff" (the logic here being, too much time to learn to do something
> you hope you never have to do... kinda like not bothering to learn CPR
> would prevent someone from having a heart attack...)
>
> :-P
> --
> will
>
> "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true;
> and that would just be unacceptable."
> - Carrie Fisher
>
> 

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Re: Mary Jo on ZDNet

[Vivec]

Who is Mary Jo Foley? I've never seen her name on the listhave I?

On Jan 25, 2008 2:42 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1131&tag=nl.e589
>
> Was weird to see that name pop up in my ZDNet email.
>
> Good to put a face with the name.

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Re: Upgrading to Vista Ultimate

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

My favorite part is going to MS update and downloading updates,
installing them, going back to MS update to find no more updates.
Then, 30 minutes later, an icon pops up and says "Updates are waiting
to be installed" :)


On Jan 25, 2008 12:39 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well got the OS installed, now for the 30470985739427598274590749094
> other installs.
>
> Loathe wrote:
> > Well, I've begun the all day task of formatting the drive and doing a base
> > XP install.
> >
> > God I wish I never did this.
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Community" 
> > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 12:34 AM
> > Subject: Re: Upgrading to Vista Ultimate
> >
> >
> >
> >> http://datacore.sciflicks.com/wargames/images/wargames_large_03.jpg
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Loathe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "CF-Community" 
> >> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 12:23 AM
> >> Subject: RE: Upgrading to Vista Ultimate
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Yep so the vista haters were correct.
> >>>
> >>> Got my sound issue handled and now for some reason as I am playing the
> >>> machine gets bogged down more and more.
> >>>
> >>> Even after closing all the services and background applications I know
> >>> are
> >>> safe this OS takes up about 4 X the memory and my processor sits around
> >>> 50%
> >>> utilization, SITS, as in doing nothing.
> >>>
> >>> Bah, the first half hour is great but then things start getting really
> >>> jerky.
> >>>
> >>> God damn, what do I need to run this shit?
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> 

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RE: Cloverfield blows goats

[Adam Churvis]

So, I gotta ask...

How many Blown Goats do *you* give it?

(remember: zero Blown Goats is something great like Godfather, 10 Blown
Goats is Ishtar)

Respectfully,

Adam Phillip Churvis 
President
Productivity Enhancement


> -Original Message-
> From: Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 1:23 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Cloverfield blows goats
> 
> Hahaha
> 
> I just got done watching this.  Ugh.  While the handheld camera/jerky
> action
> didn't make me feel ill, it was WAY too much.  I didn't feel like I was
> 'in
> the story', or whatever crap the director was going for.  I felt
> annoyed.  I
> could have taken my camera out back, tied it to a string, set it to
> record
> and twirled it about over my head and come up with the same movie,
> minus the
> special effects.
> 
> Your .. review was more creative than the movie and entertained me much
> more.
> 
> > So I revise my earlier review from 9 Blown Goats to a full *10 BLOWN
> > GOATS*
> > for outright pissing me off *days* after the movie did its original
> > damage.
> >
> > Oh, the work this guy had to go through blowing no fewer than ten
> goats,
> > one
> > right after the other, right out there in the middle of the barnyard.
> > Chasing them down, tackling them, immobilizing their horned little
> heads,
> > holding their hind legs so they don't kick him, and then, finally,
> blowing
> > them.
> >
> > He could have taken all that effort and instead channeled it into
> making a
> > non-goat-blowing movie, or at least one that didn't place as much of
> a
> > high
> > burden on the local goat population.
> >
> > Respectfully,
> >
> > Adam Phillip Churvis
> 
> 
> 

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RE: CF-Community Presidential Poll

[Adam Churvis]

Screw subsidiaries of all kinds.  And screw the corporate and industry
lobbyists who have slowly but surely converted this country from a Free
Market society into a collusion between government and corporations.

Respectfully,

Adam Phillip Churvis 
President
Productivity Enhancement

> -Original Message-
> From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 12:12 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll
> 
> Adam Churvis wrote:
> > I mean, no more alcohol or tobacco taxes,
> If that also comes with no tobacco and such subsidiaries that may be
> something worth talking about.
> 
> 
> 
> 

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RE: CF-Community Presidential Poll

[Peterson, Chris]

You do make a choice to stay living in the area you are, with the job
you have.  Being fearful of a choice does not invalidate that a choice
existed!

Chris Peterson

-Original Message-
From: morgan l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:44 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll

Yeah, been there; read that. Sounds great, for people who spend < 60% of
their income--you only get taxed on 60% of your income. Those of us who
spend closer to 100%, or even more than that with credit, are screwed.
Ok,
so if they're spending more via credit, they're doing it to themselves.
But
for me, living paycheck to paycheck barely getting by, unable to save
any of
my monthly income, I'd actually pay significantly more in taxes that way
that the current system. Doesn't quite seem "fair" to me.

And I don't exactly choose to spend 100% of my monthly income, unless
choosing to buy groceries, live in a meager/affordable home, and drive
to
work (no public transportation available) so I can keep my paycheck
coming
in are choices. I'm not talking extravagant expenses like HDTVs or PS3s.

Dammit, I swore I'd stay out of these political discussions.


On Jan 25, 2008 10:29 AM, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> http://www.fairtax.org
>
> --
> Scott Stewart
> ColdFusion Developer
>
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> -Original Message-
> From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:03 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll
>
> Yes actually.  It's much much more.
>
> -Cameron
>
> Billy Cox wrote:
> > Are you saying that it is something other than a 20%+ national sales
tax
> > along with the repeal of the federal income tax?
> >
>
>
>
> 



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Mary Jo on ZDNet

[Loathe]

http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1131&tag=nl.e589

Was weird to see that name pop up in my ZDNet email.

Good to put a face with the name.

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raid 0 - shot in the dark

[morchella]

ok, so i cant afford to spend 12k on a recovery service.
does any one know of a way to get a dead hdd up for a little while.
1 out of 4 drives failed, no back ups.
need to find a DTS & make a db back up...

any ideas.
i am gonna have some one stick the hdd in the freezer overnight to see
if that works...
we tried booting in linux from cd, but just saw floppies & cd player,
no harddrive

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Re: Upgrading to Vista Ultimate

[Loathe]

Well got the OS installed, now for the 30470985739427598274590749094 
other installs.

Loathe wrote:
> Well, I've begun the all day task of formatting the drive and doing a base 
> XP install.
>
> God I wish I never did this.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" 
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 12:34 AM
> Subject: Re: Upgrading to Vista Ultimate
>
>
>   
>> http://datacore.sciflicks.com/wargames/images/wargames_large_03.jpg
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Loathe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "CF-Community" 
>> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 12:23 AM
>> Subject: RE: Upgrading to Vista Ultimate
>>
>>
>> 
>>> Yep so the vista haters were correct.
>>>
>>> Got my sound issue handled and now for some reason as I am playing the
>>> machine gets bogged down more and more.
>>>
>>> Even after closing all the services and background applications I know 
>>> are
>>> safe this OS takes up about 4 X the memory and my processor sits around
>>> 50%
>>> utilization, SITS, as in doing nothing.
>>>
>>> Bah, the first half hour is great but then things start getting really
>>> jerky.
>>>
>>> God damn, what do I need to run this shit?
>>>   
>>
>> 
>
> 

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RE: CF-Community Presidential Poll

[Shawna Hampton]

holy mother of ...

"substantially more money" doesn't even cover it ... wow ... I wonder if
it's so high because I'm self-employed and wouldn't have the extra 15%
stolen ... err... taken out??

-Original Message-
From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:49 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll

What happens when you fill out the fairtax calculator (top left column)?

http://www.fairtax.org

I'd have substantially more money according to that calculator.  I'm 
curious to see if others would too.

-Cameron

morgan l wrote:
> Yeah, been there; read that. Sounds great, for people who spend < 60% of
> their income--you only get taxed on 60% of your income. Those of us who
> spend closer to 100%, or even more than that with credit, are screwed. Ok,
> so if they're spending more via credit, they're doing it to themselves.
But
> for me, living paycheck to paycheck barely getting by, unable to save any
of
> my monthly income, I'd actually pay significantly more in taxes that way
> that the current system. Doesn't quite seem "fair" to me.
>
> And I don't exactly choose to spend 100% of my monthly income, unless
> choosing to buy groceries, live in a meager/affordable home, and drive to
> work (no public transportation available) so I can keep my paycheck coming
> in are choices. I'm not talking extravagant expenses like HDTVs or PS3s.
>
> Dammit, I swore I'd stay out of these political discussions.
>   



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Re: Cloverfield blows goats

[Todd]

Hahaha

I just got done watching this.  Ugh.  While the handheld camera/jerky action 
didn't make me feel ill, it was WAY too much.  I didn't feel like I was 'in 
the story', or whatever crap the director was going for.  I felt annoyed.  I 
could have taken my camera out back, tied it to a string, set it to record 
and twirled it about over my head and come up with the same movie, minus the 
special effects.

Your .. review was more creative than the movie and entertained me much 
more.

> So I revise my earlier review from 9 Blown Goats to a full *10 BLOWN 
> GOATS*
> for outright pissing me off *days* after the movie did its original 
> damage.
>
> Oh, the work this guy had to go through blowing no fewer than ten goats, 
> one
> right after the other, right out there in the middle of the barnyard.
> Chasing them down, tackling them, immobilizing their horned little heads,
> holding their hind legs so they don't kick him, and then, finally, blowing
> them.
>
> He could have taken all that effort and instead channeled it into making a
> non-goat-blowing movie, or at least one that didn't place as much of a 
> high
> burden on the local goat population.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Adam Phillip Churvis 


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Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll

[Tony]

With the Fair Tax, you get:
   187.72% MORE
 spendable income.
$52,485.10 MORE
 purchasing power.
$54,747.13 LESS
 federal taxes.

On 1/25/08, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> coolies, its done in flex.
>
> ok, im going to go do it.. report back in 5
>
> On 1/25/08, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > What happens when you fill out the fairtax calculator (top left column)?
> >
> > http://www.fairtax.org
> >
> > I'd have substantially more money according to that calculator.  I'm
> > curious to see if others would too.
> >
> > -Cameron
> >
> > morgan l wrote:
> > > Yeah, been there; read that. Sounds great, for people who spend < 60% of
> > > their income--you only get taxed on 60% of your income. Those of us who
> > > spend closer to 100%, or even more than that with credit, are screwed. Ok,
> > > so if they're spending more via credit, they're doing it to themselves. 
> > > But
> > > for me, living paycheck to paycheck barely getting by, unable to save any 
> > > of
> > > my monthly income, I'd actually pay significantly more in taxes that way
> > > that the current system. Doesn't quite seem "fair" to me.
> > >
> > > And I don't exactly choose to spend 100% of my monthly income, unless
> > > choosing to buy groceries, live in a meager/affordable home, and drive to
> > > work (no public transportation available) so I can keep my paycheck coming
> > > in are choices. I'm not talking extravagant expenses like HDTVs or PS3s.
> > >
> > > Dammit, I swore I'd stay out of these political discussions.
> > >
> >
> > 

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Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll

[Tony]

coolies, its done in flex.

ok, im going to go do it.. report back in 5

On 1/25/08, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What happens when you fill out the fairtax calculator (top left column)?
>
> http://www.fairtax.org
>
> I'd have substantially more money according to that calculator.  I'm
> curious to see if others would too.
>
> -Cameron
>
> morgan l wrote:
> > Yeah, been there; read that. Sounds great, for people who spend < 60% of
> > their income--you only get taxed on 60% of your income. Those of us who
> > spend closer to 100%, or even more than that with credit, are screwed. Ok,
> > so if they're spending more via credit, they're doing it to themselves. But
> > for me, living paycheck to paycheck barely getting by, unable to save any of
> > my monthly income, I'd actually pay significantly more in taxes that way
> > that the current system. Doesn't quite seem "fair" to me.
> >
> > And I don't exactly choose to spend 100% of my monthly income, unless
> > choosing to buy groceries, live in a meager/affordable home, and drive to
> > work (no public transportation available) so I can keep my paycheck coming
> > in are choices. I'm not talking extravagant expenses like HDTVs or PS3s.
> >
> > Dammit, I swore I'd stay out of these political discussions.
> >
>
> 

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Re: Late night sci-fi (Re: Stargate SG1)

[Ben Doom]

IIRC, S1 was the movies, and S2-4 were the shows.  I could be wrong 
about that, though.

William Bowen wrote:
> Lexx Series 2-4 are available via Netflix, but not the first four movies...
> 
> On Jan 25, 2008 7:51 AM, Ben Doom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Yep.  Seen TFPU.  Also had Malcom McDowell.  Interesting, but not my
>> thing.  I didn't really like Lexx that much -- just the girls.  :-)
>>
>> --BenD


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Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll

[morgan l]

Had trouble finding the link, so here's the direct page:
http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer?pagename=calculator

I get +0.78% spendable income. Practically nothing. Certainly nothing to get
excited about.

Of course, the calculator is weighted with their "expert predictions", and
changing from 10% price drop to 0% price drop, had the opposite of the
expected effect; it actually raised my spendable income. And their
calculation of my mortgage was almost half of what it actually is.

On Jan 25, 2008 11:49 AM, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What happens when you fill out the fairtax calculator (top left column)?
>
> http://www.fairtax.org
>
> I'd have substantially more money according to that calculator.  I'm
> curious to see if others would too.
>
> -Cameron
>
> morgan l wrote:
> > Yeah, been there; read that. Sounds great, for people who spend < 60% of
> > their income--you only get taxed on 60% of your income. Those of us who
> > spend closer to 100%, or even more than that with credit, are screwed.
> Ok,
> > so if they're spending more via credit, they're doing it to themselves.
> But
> > for me, living paycheck to paycheck barely getting by, unable to save
> any of
> > my monthly income, I'd actually pay significantly more in taxes that way
> > that the current system. Doesn't quite seem "fair" to me.
> >
> > And I don't exactly choose to spend 100% of my monthly income, unless
> > choosing to buy groceries, live in a meager/affordable home, and drive
> to
> > work (no public transportation available) so I can keep my paycheck
> coming
> > in are choices. I'm not talking extravagant expenses like HDTVs or PS3s.
> >
> > Dammit, I swore I'd stay out of these political discussions.
> >
>
> 

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Re: OOPS, My Bad

[William Bowen]

> What does that have to do with it?

sigh...
Hazards of a busy day...

there was supposed to be another (sarcastic) comment after the ellipsis.

so it should have read:

Besides the owner of the company, she was the only one that had full
access to the files...

why would we need to bother with a backup system? What could possibly 
happen?

Being in IT I hear this kind of crap all the time. Along with "backups
take too long"; "it's too difficult to figure out how to restore
stuff" (the logic here being, too much time to learn to do something
you hope you never have to do... kinda like not bothering to learn CPR
would prevent someone from having a heart attack...)

:-P
-- 
will

"If my life weren't funny, it would just be true;
and that would just be unacceptable."
- Carrie Fisher

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Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll

[Cameron Childress]

What happens when you fill out the fairtax calculator (top left column)?

http://www.fairtax.org

I'd have substantially more money according to that calculator.  I'm 
curious to see if others would too.

-Cameron

morgan l wrote:
> Yeah, been there; read that. Sounds great, for people who spend < 60% of
> their income--you only get taxed on 60% of your income. Those of us who
> spend closer to 100%, or even more than that with credit, are screwed. Ok,
> so if they're spending more via credit, they're doing it to themselves. But
> for me, living paycheck to paycheck barely getting by, unable to save any of
> my monthly income, I'd actually pay significantly more in taxes that way
> that the current system. Doesn't quite seem "fair" to me.
>
> And I don't exactly choose to spend 100% of my monthly income, unless
> choosing to buy groceries, live in a meager/affordable home, and drive to
> work (no public transportation available) so I can keep my paycheck coming
> in are choices. I'm not talking extravagant expenses like HDTVs or PS3s.
>
> Dammit, I swore I'd stay out of these political discussions.
>   

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Re: Late night sci-fi (Re: Stargate SG1)

[William Bowen]

Lexx Series 2-4 are available via Netflix, but not the first four movies...

On Jan 25, 2008 7:51 AM, Ben Doom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yep.  Seen TFPU.  Also had Malcom McDowell.  Interesting, but not my
> thing.  I didn't really like Lexx that much -- just the girls.  :-)
>
> --BenD
>
> morgan l wrote:
> > If you liked Lexx, you should look for the original mini-series; if I
> > recall, there were 3 2-hour episodes. Might have been more that didn't make
> > it to air anywhere in the US. It's called Tales From a Parallel Universe.
> > Rutger Hauer was in one of the episodes. I thought Lexx was a bit too
> > watered-down when scifi picked it up; of course after TFPU, it almost had to
> > be.
> >
> > The "blonde" in Lexx actually had green hair in TFPU.
> >
> > RE: Lexa Doig: she does a short stint on SG1 in the very late part of the
> > series (last season, maybe 2 as a semi-recurring character). I won't spoil
> > it, I know someone is just now watching the first few seasons.
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll

[Ian Skinner]

Adam Churvis wrote:
> I mean, no more alcohol or tobacco taxes,
If that also comes with no tobacco and such subsidiaries that may be 
something worth talking about.



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Re: Spanish guitar

[Rick Root]

the only Charo song on Rhapsody is a cover of "Tequila"

All this talk about guitar ... I think I'll listen to Joe Satriani now.

Rick

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US Demands immunity for contractors and protections from Iraqi Law.

[Vivec]

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/01/25/africa/25military.php

"WASHINGTON: With its international mandate in Iraq set to expire in
11 months, the Bush administration will insist that the government in
Baghdad give the United States broad authority to conduct combat
operations and guarantee civilian contractors specific legal
protections from Iraqi law, according to administration and military
officials."

"However, the American quest for protections for civilian contractors
is expected to be particularly vexing, because in no other country are
contractors working with the American military granted protection from
local laws. Some American officials want contractors to have full
immunity from Iraqi law, while others envision less sweeping
protections. These officials said the negotiations with the Iraqis,
expected to begin next month, would also determine whether the
American authority to conduct combat operations in the future would be
unilateral, as it is now, or whether it would require consultation
with the Iraqis or even Iraqi approval."

LOL!
Why were they in Iraq again? Right right..it wasn't about WMD..right...
Oh and it wasn't about Oil and about having a firm Base of Operations
in the Middle East..right..it was...it was

Something about Democracy and Sovereignty for the Iraqi people wasn't it ?

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Re: Upgrading to Vista Ultimate

[Vivec]

Next time you can backup with Acronis Backup software, make a complete
disk image. Then if things don't work out, you can just restore the
image.
This is what I did the first time I moved to Vista. I used it for
about two months then restored the XP image.
I thought that after a year things would have been a lot better, though.

But take heart, Vista Service pack 1 may be released by February 15th.

On Jan 25, 2008 12:54 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, I've begun the all day task of formatting the drive and doing a base
> XP install.
>
> God I wish I never did this.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" 
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 12:34 AM
> Subject: Re: Upgrading to Vista Ultimate
>
>
>
> > http://datacore.sciflicks.com/wargames/images/wargames_large_03.jpg
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Loathe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Community" 
> > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 12:23 AM
> > Subject: RE: Upgrading to Vista Ultimate
> >
> >
> >> Yep so the vista haters were correct.
> >>
> >> Got my sound issue handled and now for some reason as I am playing the
> >> machine gets bogged down more and more.
> >>
> >> Even after closing all the services and background applications I know
> >> are
> >> safe this OS takes up about 4 X the memory and my processor sits around
> >> 50%
> >> utilization, SITS, as in doing nothing.
> >>
> >> Bah, the first half hour is great but then things start getting really
> >> jerky.
> >>
> >> God damn, what do I need to run this shit?
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Not Spanish Guitar.

[Rick Root]

I'm not even sure how this relates to the Llama song.  The Llama song
is funny.  The Astrology Song is.. just lame.

I am, however, a fan of Bananaphone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neKXc7pw4go


On 1/25/08, Ian Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But if you are a fan of the 'Lama' song, you may enjoy this or hate it,
> I'm not sure which.
>
> http://www.harveysidfisher.com/clips.html 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6_VAiznSTc
>
>
>
> 

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RE: CF-Community Presidential Poll

[Adam Churvis]

What I'd like to see is a complete elimination of all taxes except the Fair
Tax, and just increase the tax percentage on the Fair Tax until it funds the
equivalent of what it did before there was a Fair tax.

I mean, no more alcohol or tobacco taxes, no more specialized or "hidden"
taxes of any kind -- everything paid directly by an aware citizenry.  And no
whining about "non-smokers shouldn't have to foot the bill for smokers" and
such.  You could make those arguments about anything and everything until
the cows came home, and then argue that cows should be taxed differently
because they cause heart disease.  None of this matters more than the
citizenry knowing exactly what kind of a bite the government takes out of
their ass every time they buy anything.

If that doesn't get out the torches and pitchforks, nothing will. 

Respectfully,

Adam Phillip Churvis 
President
Productivity Enhancement

> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:30 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: CF-Community Presidential Poll
> 
> http://www.fairtax.org
> 
> --
> Scott Stewart
> ColdFusion Developer
> 
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:03 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll
> 
> Yes actually.  It's much much more.
> 
> -Cameron
> 
> Billy Cox wrote:
> > Are you saying that it is something other than a 20%+ national sales
> tax
> > along with the repeal of the federal income tax?
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Ajax compined with popup information...

[James Smith]

I am struggling to find a method for the following...

I have a small thumbnail of an image on my page, when someone onmouseover()
I want an ajax call to retrieve a description and image location from the
server to be displayed in a pop up over the top of the page. This should
clearly be closed onmouseout().

I have been looking into jQuery and it's plugins but can't find anything
suitable. Any suggestions?

I am off home in 10 minutes so you have the entire weekend to come up with
something ;-)

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Re: Upgrading to Vista Ultimate

[Loathe]

Well, I've begun the all day task of formatting the drive and doing a base 
XP install.

God I wish I never did this.
- Original Message - 
From: "Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 12:34 AM
Subject: Re: Upgrading to Vista Ultimate


> http://datacore.sciflicks.com/wargames/images/wargames_large_03.jpg
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Loathe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" 
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 12:23 AM
> Subject: RE: Upgrading to Vista Ultimate
>
>
>> Yep so the vista haters were correct.
>>
>> Got my sound issue handled and now for some reason as I am playing the
>> machine gets bogged down more and more.
>>
>> Even after closing all the services and background applications I know 
>> are
>> safe this OS takes up about 4 X the memory and my processor sits around
>> 50%
>> utilization, SITS, as in doing nothing.
>>
>> Bah, the first half hour is great but then things start getting really
>> jerky.
>>
>> God damn, what do I need to run this shit?
>
>
> 

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Re: Spanish guitar

[William Bowen]

> OMG ... I have truly heard it all now ... a flamenco version of Stairway to
> Heaven!!!
>
> Good stuff, Will ... thanks!


You're very welcome. :-)

take a listen to Diablo Rojo as well, it's about a roller-coaster in
Denmark... amazingly evocative.


-- 
will

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and that would just be unacceptable."
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Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll

[morgan l]

Yeah, been there; read that. Sounds great, for people who spend < 60% of
their income--you only get taxed on 60% of your income. Those of us who
spend closer to 100%, or even more than that with credit, are screwed. Ok,
so if they're spending more via credit, they're doing it to themselves. But
for me, living paycheck to paycheck barely getting by, unable to save any of
my monthly income, I'd actually pay significantly more in taxes that way
that the current system. Doesn't quite seem "fair" to me.

And I don't exactly choose to spend 100% of my monthly income, unless
choosing to buy groceries, live in a meager/affordable home, and drive to
work (no public transportation available) so I can keep my paycheck coming
in are choices. I'm not talking extravagant expenses like HDTVs or PS3s.

Dammit, I swore I'd stay out of these political discussions.


On Jan 25, 2008 10:29 AM, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://www.fairtax.org
>
> --
> Scott Stewart
> ColdFusion Developer
>
> SSTWebworks
> 4405 Oakshyre Way
> Raleigh, NC. 27616
> (919) 874-6229 (home)
> (703) 220-2835 (cell)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:03 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll
>
> Yes actually.  It's much much more.
>
> -Cameron
>
> Billy Cox wrote:
> > Are you saying that it is something other than a 20%+ national sales tax
> > along with the repeal of the federal income tax?
> >
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Last night weather...

[William Bowen]

> Heck yeah, i love our spring stormsespecially when it turns the middle
> of the day as dark as night.
>
> > Yeah, you get used to spending a few hours in the bathtub or basement.
> >
> > But it IS pretty cool to watch those billowing green clouds roll in,
> > especially if it's a rare occurrence.

Big storms with thunder and lightning are one of the few things I
truly miss about Kansas...

We have huge squalls here in the Northwest with high winds and
sideways rain, but very rarely thunder and lightning...

-- 
will

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and that would just be unacceptable."
- Carrie Fisher

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Not Spanish Guitar.

[Ian Skinner]

But if you are a fan of the 'Lama' song, you may enjoy this or hate it, 
I'm not sure which.

http://www.harveysidfisher.com/clips.html 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6_VAiznSTc



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Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll

[Tony]

i lose 1k each paycheck to taxes, soc sec, etc...

heres what i think i want:
i want to privatize soc sec so im putting into my saving for my
future, not someone elses now.

i want to eliminate federal income tax and have a "consumption tax"

i want to have laws that my state or other states make be adhered to
by the feds.

i want to own a gun, live my life, abide by my states laws and the
ones that the feds have that are not covered by my states laws.

and a host of other things, but i have to go to lunch

tw

On 1/25/08, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I guess that depends.  If you are paying 24K in federal income tax, then
> yes.  24K extra you can choose to spend (and be taxed), or choose to
> save (and not be taxed).
>
> -Cameron
>
> Tony wrote:
> > So I wouldn't lose the 24k
> > I lose each year out of my paychecks?
> >
>
>
> 

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RE: CF-Community Presidential Poll

[Scott Stewart]

http://www.fairtax.org

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-Original Message-
From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:03 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll

Yes actually.  It's much much more.

-Cameron

Billy Cox wrote:
> Are you saying that it is something other than a 20%+ national sales tax
> along with the repeal of the federal income tax?
>   



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RE: CF-Community Presidential Poll

[Billy Cox]

Yeah... I looked at the Wikipedia article. It would not sadden me to see
payroll taxes gone too. My employer could theoretically give me a 15% raise
and not be spending any more than they do now.

If it means more money for me, then I'm all for it. You can still count on
the industry surrounding the current income tax to cry foul though.



-Original Message-
From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 10:03 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll


Yes actually.  It's much much more.

-Cameron

Billy Cox wrote:
> Are you saying that it is something other than a 20%+ national sales 
> tax along with the repeal of the federal income tax?
>   



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RE: Spanish guitar

[Shawna Hampton]

OMG ... I have truly heard it all now ... a flamenco version of Stairway to
Heaven!!!

Good stuff, Will ... thanks!

-Original Message-
From: William Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 10:04 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Spanish guitar

Rodrigo y Gabriela

Mexican Flamenco Acoustic Rock :-)
http://www.amazon.com/Rodrigo-y-Gabriela-Bonus-DVD/dp/B000HKDEE2/ref=pd_bbs_
sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1201276759&sr=8-1

They started out classically trained Flamenco guitarists, joined a
rock band in their late teens in Mexico City. Then, as they put it
"grew tired of warmth and sunshine" and moved to Ireland, where they
quickly ran out of money. They fell back on their classic training and
busked their way across Europe playing original flamenco tunes and
covers of rock songs, flamenco style.

Eventually they landed a recording contract and a huge fan following.

Good stuff(tm)!!

PS, I'm currently working on learning their version of Metallica's Orion.
:-)

On Jan 25, 2008 7:19 AM, Shawna Hampton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Anyone here fans of Spanish guitar? I'm looking for some recommendations -
> good starter albums for someone interested in getting into the genre. I'm
> (slowly) learning to play guitar and eventually want to learn to play in
> Spanish style, but that's a long way off. Right now I just want to listen
to
> it.


-- 
will

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and that would just be unacceptable."
- Carrie Fisher



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RE: Spanish guitar

[Shawna Hampton]

Ha ha ... Jerry you win the prize ... I just pulled Charo up on Amazon and
the first album had Malaguena

I was in college marching band and we did a rendition of that song that was
SPECTACULAR ... every time I hear it my boogie bug gets going ... I'm always
on the lookout for different versions

Great recommendations, guys! I like that solo performer style ... guitar w/
full band is good, but I guess what I'm after is the more classical aspect


-Original Message-
From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 9:58 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Spanish guitar

Not sure if you group Flamenco with Spanish guitar, but Charo is the
best guitarist, hands down, I have ever heard. She is a phenom.

(And yes, I was as surprised as can be when she played)

On Jan 25, 2008 10:42 AM, Rick Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My wife's a big fan of Sharon Isbin, and some of her stuff is
> considered "spanish" though she's from Minnesota herself.



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RE: Spanish guitar

[Scott Stewart]

I dunno about Spanish Guitar but for classical guitar, Andreas Segovia is
(was) a god.

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-Original Message-
From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:12 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Spanish guitar

Gypsy Kings. They have some really good Spanish guitar and have been 
around forever. La Guitarra Romantica by Morton Davis is good to.

Bruce

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RE: Spanish guitar

[Scott Stewart]

They're version is spot on minus distortion..

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-Original Message-
From: William Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:04 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Spanish guitar

Rodrigo y Gabriela

Mexican Flamenco Acoustic Rock :-)
http://www.amazon.com/Rodrigo-y-Gabriela-Bonus-DVD/dp/B000HKDEE2/ref=pd_bbs_
sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1201276759&sr=8-1

They started out classically trained Flamenco guitarists, joined a
rock band in their late teens in Mexico City. Then, as they put it
"grew tired of warmth and sunshine" and moved to Ireland, where they
quickly ran out of money. They fell back on their classic training and
busked their way across Europe playing original flamenco tunes and
covers of rock songs, flamenco style.

Eventually they landed a recording contract and a huge fan following.

Good stuff(tm)!!

PS, I'm currently working on learning their version of Metallica's Orion.
:-)

On Jan 25, 2008 7:19 AM, Shawna Hampton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Anyone here fans of Spanish guitar? I'm looking for some recommendations -
> good starter albums for someone interested in getting into the genre. I'm
> (slowly) learning to play guitar and eventually want to learn to play in
> Spanish style, but that's a long way off. Right now I just want to listen
to
> it.


-- 
will

"If my life weren't funny, it would just be true;
and that would just be unacceptable."
- Carrie Fisher



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Re: Spanish guitar

[Bruce Sorge]

Gypsy Kings. They have some really good Spanish guitar and have been 
around forever. La Guitarra Romantica by Morton Davis is good to.

Bruce

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Re: Heath Ledger Found Dead ...

[Loathe]

doesn't help me now :)
- Original Message - 
From: "Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" 
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: Heath Ledger Found Dead ...


>A can a soldering iron and a pint glass.
>
> um... so I hear
>
> On Jan 24, 2008 4:13 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The vaporizer is sweet, but damn they are expensive.
>>
>
> 

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RE: Last night weather...

[Jacob]

I love it.  But my wife hates the cold.  I thought about driving up to the
mountains tomorrow, but she wants to stay home and have the heater on.  I
think I should break the furnace tonight... :P
-Original Message-
From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 7:29 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Last night weather...

Well up here in the high desert, we had rain/sleet in the lower 
elevations (below 3500 ft) and lots of snow in the higher areas. Still 
sleeting and snowing here where I live and work, and hwy 138 has been 
completely shut down before hwy 2 into the mountains. This is winter and 
I love it.

Bruce

-- 
Throttle Jockey - 
Why golf courses should be motocross tracks


Jacob wrote:
> Last night was cool... parts of Southern California were under a tornado
> warning from about 9pm to 10pm and I was in the path of the storm cell.
> Nothing happened though except a ton of lightning and thunder.
>   




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Re: Spanish guitar

[Jerry Johnson]

Not sure if you group Flamenco with Spanish guitar, but Charo is the
best guitarist, hands down, I have ever heard. She is a phenom.

(And yes, I was as surprised as can be when she played)

On Jan 25, 2008 10:42 AM, Rick Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My wife's a big fan of Sharon Isbin, and some of her stuff is
> considered "spanish" though she's from Minnesota herself.

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Re: Spanish guitar

[William Bowen]

Rodrigo y Gabriela

Mexican Flamenco Acoustic Rock :-)
http://www.amazon.com/Rodrigo-y-Gabriela-Bonus-DVD/dp/B000HKDEE2/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1201276759&sr=8-1

They started out classically trained Flamenco guitarists, joined a
rock band in their late teens in Mexico City. Then, as they put it
"grew tired of warmth and sunshine" and moved to Ireland, where they
quickly ran out of money. They fell back on their classic training and
busked their way across Europe playing original flamenco tunes and
covers of rock songs, flamenco style.

Eventually they landed a recording contract and a huge fan following.

Good stuff(tm)!!

PS, I'm currently working on learning their version of Metallica's Orion. :-)

On Jan 25, 2008 7:19 AM, Shawna Hampton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyone here fans of Spanish guitar? I'm looking for some recommendations -
> good starter albums for someone interested in getting into the genre. I'm
> (slowly) learning to play guitar and eventually want to learn to play in
> Spanish style, but that's a long way off. Right now I just want to listen to
> it.


-- 
will

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and that would just be unacceptable."
- Carrie Fisher

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Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll

[Cameron Childress]

Yes actually.  It's much much more.

-Cameron

Billy Cox wrote:
> Are you saying that it is something other than a 20%+ national sales tax
> along with the repeal of the federal income tax?
>   

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