RE: raid 0 - shot in the dark

2008-01-28 Thread James Smith
You can't. Raid 0 is a striped set so if a drive fails you have lost 1/4 of
the data from each file on the array and no single drive contains any
complete files.

Sorry.

If it is the drives controller that has gone you can try swapping the
electronics from a good drive onto the failed one but in my experience when
a drive fails it is [almost] never the electronics that are the problem.

--
Jay

-Original Message-
From: morchella [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 25 January 2008 18:42
To: CF-Community
Subject: raid 0 - shot in the dark

ok, so i cant afford to spend 12k on a recovery service.
does any one know of a way to get a dead hdd up for a little while.
1 out of 4 drives failed, no back ups.
need to find a DTS  make a db back up...

any ideas.
i am gonna have some one stick the hdd in the freezer overnight to see
if that works...
we tried booting in linux from cd, but just saw floppies  cd player,
no harddrive



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Re: raid 0 - shot in the dark

2008-01-28 Thread Cameron Childress
M- Did you ever get this drive running again?  Last time I had a 
catastrophic failure on a valuable drive it was about $200 to get a 
recovery service to give me an estimate on recovery (and I had to send 
it out of state via UPS).

James Smith wrote:
 You can't. Raid 0 is a striped set so if a drive fails you have lost 1/4 of
 the data from each file on the array and no single drive contains any
 complete files.

 Sorry.

 If it is the drives controller that has gone you can try swapping the
 electronics from a good drive onto the failed one but in my experience when
 a drive fails it is [almost] never the electronics that are the problem.

 --
 Jay

 -Original Message-
 From: morchella [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 25 January 2008 18:42
 To: CF-Community
 Subject: raid 0 - shot in the dark

 ok, so i cant afford to spend 12k on a recovery service.
 does any one know of a way to get a dead hdd up for a little while.
 1 out of 4 drives failed, no back ups.
 need to find a DTS  make a db back up...

 any ideas.
 i am gonna have some one stick the hdd in the freezer overnight to see
 if that works...
 we tried booting in linux from cd, but just saw floppies  cd player,
 no harddrive


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Re: google theme... finaly! w00t!

2008-01-28 Thread Paul Ihrig
your too fast..


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Re: raid 0 - shot in the dark

2008-01-28 Thread Cameron Childress
I'd suggest calling a data recovery service and just asking them what 
they recommend.  Sometimes they will give you a few tips and they might 
prevent you from doing further damage to the drive.  I'm not familiar 
with putting drives in the freezer as a solution, but I know that making 
devices too cold will cause condensation and moisture that risks totally 
frying the device when it's powered on.

There may also be a local company willing to evaluate the drive for free.

-Cameron

morchella wrote:
 no.
 i will be spending the next 3 weeks in the server room offsite, pretending i
 know how to set up test, and staging...
 so i am going to try chucking it in the freezer over night, and see if that
 does any thing.
   

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Re: raid 0 - shot in the dark

2008-01-28 Thread morchella
no.
i will be spending the next 3 weeks in the server room offsite, pretending i
know how to set up test, and staging...
so i am going to try chucking it in the freezer over night, and see if that
does any thing.

On Jan 28, 2008 6:52 AM, Cameron Childress [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 M- Did you ever get this drive running again?  Last time I had a
 catastrophic failure on a valuable drive it was about $200 to get a
 recovery service to give me an estimate on recovery (and I had to send
 it out of state via UPS).

 James Smith wrote:
  You can't. Raid 0 is a striped set so if a drive fails you have lost 1/4
 of
  the data from each file on the array and no single drive contains any
  complete files.
 
  Sorry.
 
  If it is the drives controller that has gone you can try swapping the
  electronics from a good drive onto the failed one but in my experience
 when
  a drive fails it is [almost] never the electronics that are the problem.
 
  --
  Jay
 
  -Original Message-
  From: morchella [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 25 January 2008 18:42
  To: CF-Community
  Subject: raid 0 - shot in the dark
 
  ok, so i cant afford to spend 12k on a recovery service.
  does any one know of a way to get a dead hdd up for a little while.
  1 out of 4 drives failed, no back ups.
  need to find a DTS  make a db back up...
 
  any ideas.
  i am gonna have some one stick the hdd in the freezer overnight to see
  if that works...
  we tried booting in linux from cd, but just saw floppies  cd player,
  no harddrive


 

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RE: CF-Community Presidential Poll

2008-01-28 Thread Billy Cox
Yeah, yeah... I'm more informed on it now and I think it's a good idea, but
you have to know that the objections I raised would be the talking points of
the issue ads opposing the 'fair tax' if Congress ever takes it on.

Just in case I am ever famous, one of my favorite truisms would be, The
powerful of this world are those who have learned how to profit from the
ignorance of the masses.


-Original Message-
From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 9:47 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll


I have to agree with Adam.  Read the book or get the book tape, even if you
hate the idea.  It addresses a lot of the issues people are bringing up.  It
might not sell you on the idea, but if not, it will give you more ammo for
your side.





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RE: CF-Community Presidential Poll

2008-01-28 Thread Adam Churvis
Dana,

Please -- *read* the book!

Or at least peruse fairtax.org until you have all the basics down pat.

Respectfully,

Adam Phillip Churvis 
President
Productivity Enhancement

 -Original Message-
 From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 10:56 AM
 To: CF-Community
 Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll
 
 how exactly does this help those without? And since when are you in
 favor of the government giving poor people money? This is a gag,
 right?
 
 I think the reason I would lose out is that I have pretty big
 deductions under the current system. My standard deduction is 7500 I
 think and I had three people in college last year. Add in the child
 tax credit and I can make quite a bit before I owe significant taxes.
 I may this year... but i look over-withheld, was looking at that the
 other day.
 
 On the other hand... did someone say that payroll taxes would go away?
 If so I might revise my opinion.
 
 On 1e current /27/08, Loathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Well thats an awful selfish stance for a lib like you to take.  I
 though
  you were above self interest, from those wit th those without and all
 that?
 
  Dana wrote:
   um. You are bringing logic to an ideological fight. I actually lose
 money
   under the fair tax btw about 900. So I would not be a fan.
  
   On Jan 25, 2008 12:25 PM, morgan l [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   Well, I could move to MS (just one example of a very low cost-of-
 living
   area), where the cost of living is about 1/2 of where I live. I'd
 lose my
   job, meaning I'd end up making minimum wage... way less than 1/2
 of what I
   make now. I'd be even worse off. Of course, I'd make low enough
 income to
   go
   on welfare and foodstamps.
  
   I already live in the lowest-cost region for 100's of miles. And
 the job I
   have pays twice what I've ever made before, significantly more
 than what
   my
   neighbors bring in, and significantly more than most employers
 would pay
   for
   someone with my education background, despite my actual ability.
  
   So yes, I choose to stay in my affordable, modest-sized single-
 family (as
   long as the family has no kids) home, making middle-class income
 rather
   than going on welfare. Because honestly, those are my only
 options.
  
   On Jan 25, 2008 12:47 PM, Peterson, Chris
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
  
  
   You do make a choice to stay living in the area you are, with the
 job
   you have.  Being fearful of a choice does not invalidate that a
 choice
   existed!
  
   Chris Peterson
  
   -Original Message-
   From: morgan l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:44 AM
   To: CF-Community
   Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll
  
   Yeah, been there; read that. Sounds great, for people who spend 
 60% of
   their income--you only get taxed on 60% of your income. Those of
 us who
   spend closer to 100%, or even more than that with credit, are
 screwed.
   Ok,
   so if they're spending more via credit, they're doing it to
 themselves.
   But
   for me, living paycheck to paycheck barely getting by, unable to
 save
   any of
   my monthly income, I'd actually pay significantly more in taxes
 that way
   that the current system. Doesn't quite seem fair to me.
  
   And I don't exactly choose to spend 100% of my monthly income,
 unless
   choosing to buy groceries, live in a meager/affordable home, and
 drive
   to
   work (no public transportation available) so I can keep my
 paycheck
   coming
   in are choices. I'm not talking extravagant expenses like HDTVs
 or PS3s.
  
   Dammit, I swore I'd stay out of these political discussions.
  
  
   On Jan 25, 2008 10:29 AM, Scott Stewart
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
  
  
   http://www.fairtax.org
  
   --
   Scott Stewart
   ColdFusion Developer
  
   SSTWebworks
   4405 Oakshyre Way
   Raleigh, NC. 27616
   (919) 874-6229 (home)
   (703) 220-2835 (cell)
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:03 AM
   To: CF-Community
   Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll
  
   Yes actually.  It's much much more.
  
   -Cameron
  
   Billy Cox wrote:
  
   Are you saying that it is something other than a 20%+ national
 sales
  
   tax
  
   along with the repeal of the federal income tax?
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
 

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Re: terror plots foiled across Europe

2008-01-28 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
I wasn't making any judgement on it.  My original response was to
Robert's comment about pulling out early and them still getting
attacked, not whether they should have gone in or not, but more that
wouldn't have become non-targets just because they pulled out early.


But, if you want my opinion about Iraq, I don't think any of us should
have gone in there the way we did.



On Jan 28, 2008 8:13 AM, G Money [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm sorry, I didn't mean to make a rash assumption.

 You were in favor of Spain's foray into Iraq?

 On Jan 28, 2008 8:02 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  wow!  you guys have really good imaginations!  Next I'll scan an image
  of my palm and you can tell me what it infers about the current
  situations of the Inuits.
 

 --
 The passion that sparked me one terrible night
 And shocked and persuaded my soul to delight


 

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RE: our new house (pics)

2008-01-28 Thread Scott Stewart
Nce

The kitten's cute too

I totally understand about the ex-wife bad mojo.. I almost kept the the
townhouse that my ex and I lived in... until I realzed I couldn’t bring
anyone female that I was dating back there, it was just to weird...

-- 
Scott Stewart
ColdFusion Developer
 
SSTWebworks
4405 Oakshyre Way
Raleigh, NC. 27616
(919) 874-6229 (home)
(703) 220-2835 (cell)
-Original Message-
From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 9:44 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: our new house (pics)

circa. 1915.

the old house is a long story.
basically.

1. 100% interest payment
2. 3 yr arm
3. current = 9%
4. arm matures in 2010
5. value of house in this market ~295,000
6. vale of loan = 309000

bad investment. bad bad bad.  house is on market
im not making any more payments.  had to cut losses
and roll.  new house is rental, in the heart of town, and
we love it.  has no bad juju (exwife, etc) and is just totally
tubular!!  we love it.  ill have some outside pics soon

tw

On 1/28/08, Erika L. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm confused and must of missed something somewhere - what happened to the
 old house? You were so excited at getting it after the divorce ... I
thought
 you loved it there?...

 This house looks like it'sa fantastic though! Wouldn't mind seeinng an
 outside pic of it. How old is it? Seems to have lovely wood floors and
 moldings, etc.


 On 1/28/08, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  finally i took some interior shots...
  more to come, here are a few...
 
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyweeg
 
  -


 



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For those in Maryland - Fight the Tech Tax

2008-01-28 Thread Sandra Clark
http://www.fightthetechtax.com/index.cfm

Feel free to pass it along.

Sandra Clark
=
http://www.shayna.com
Training and Consulting  in CSS and Accessibility 
Team Fusebox








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Re: our new house (pics)

2008-01-28 Thread Erika L. Walker
I'm confused and must of missed something somewhere - what happened to the
old house? You were so excited at getting it after the divorce ... I thought
you loved it there?...

This house looks like it'sa fantastic though! Wouldn't mind seeinng an
outside pic of it. How old is it? Seems to have lovely wood floors and
moldings, etc.


On 1/28/08, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 finally i took some interior shots...
 more to come, here are a few...

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyweeg

 -


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Re: terror plots foiled across Europe

2008-01-28 Thread G Money
On Jan 28, 2008 8:24 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 But, if you want my opinion about Iraq, I don't think any of us should
 have gone in there the way we did.


Agreed.

-- 
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And shocked and persuaded my soul to delight


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RE: CF-Community Presidential Poll

2008-01-28 Thread Billy Cox
In the spirit of the TV show, Are you smarter than a 5th grader?, I would
like to see the show, Are you smarter than a presidential candidate? Such
a show could have stopped the George W. Bush presidential campaign in its
tracks eight years ago.


-Original Message-
From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 9:39 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll


Because bloated OTC drug addicts are better?

Marginal members of the moron (ops Mormon) cult?  Or a baptist 
preacher that wants to bring jesus into the constitution?

Come on man





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Re: terror plots foiled across Europe

2008-01-28 Thread G Money
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to make a rash assumption.

You were in favor of Spain's foray into Iraq?

On Jan 28, 2008 8:02 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 wow!  you guys have really good imaginations!  Next I'll scan an image
 of my palm and you can tell me what it infers about the current
 situations of the Inuits.


-- 
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And shocked and persuaded my soul to delight


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our new house (pics)

2008-01-28 Thread Tony
finally i took some interior shots...
more to come, here are a few...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyweeg

-- 
'Never have anything in your life that you can't walk out on in thirty
seconds flat, if you spot the heat coming around the corner'

robert deniro - heat (1995)

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Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll

2008-01-28 Thread Cameron Childress
From:  http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer?pagename=about_faq_answers#1

The FairTax is a single-rate, federal retail sales tax collected only 
once, at the final point of purchase of new goods and services for 
personal consumption. Used items are not taxed. Business-to-business 
purchases for the production of goods and services are not taxed. A 
rebate makes the effective rate progressive.

-Cameron

Gruss Gott wrote:
 Adam wrote:
 No, actually, it's very simple: goods and services sold to a consumer at the
 retail level, period.
 

 So how is retail, good, and service defined in the book?
   

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Re: terror plots foiled across Europe

2008-01-28 Thread G Money
On Jan 27, 2008 9:53 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 If you put your hand in a hornet's nest, do you deserve to be stung?
 Would you expect to be stung?  Two different questions there.  Mine
 was the 2nd.


Interesting analogy. You seem to advocate leaving the hornet's nest alone
entirely.let someone else deal with itlet the hornets sting someone
else's kids.

-- 
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And shocked and persuaded my soul to delight


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RE: CF-Community Presidential Poll

2008-01-28 Thread Adam Churvis
 Ahh - Then I need to re-read the book.  I just pulled it off my
 bookshelf and dusted it off this morning.
 
 -Cameron

I don't remember if they cover this in the book; I'm just going from the
current definitions of things as they stand now.  

The reason why I applied it to a Fair Tax scenario is because the need for
such classification and corresponding collection of that class of taxes
would obviously still exist.

Actually, the government frankly couldn't care less whether or not you
collect any sales or use taxes for them whatsoever, and they'll tell you
this if you ask them.  As a merchant, you may have the right to collect
taxes, but actually collecting them from your customers is entirely up to
you.  It's a legal fact.

On the other hand, *paying* those sales and use taxes that *could* have been
legally collected... well, you're *always* going to be responsible for that,
as far as the government is concerned.  They don't care whether you pay it
out of your pocket or pull it out of your mattress or collect it from your
customers at the time of sale; they just care that you pay it, on time.

So Sales Taxes or Use Taxes, as a merchant you're still on the line to pay
them, whether they are collected or not.

Respectfully,

Adam Phillip Churvis 
President
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Re: our new house (pics)

2008-01-28 Thread Cameron Childress
Tony wrote:
 its totally a victim... they SHOULDA NEVER given me that loan for that place.
 never.

Interesting that you are renting a house now.  Alot of people who are 
upside-down in their home loans are attempting to rent them out to 
people to make the payments and hopefully wait out the market dip.  It 
would be ironic if you were renting from someone in that situation.

-Cameron

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Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll

2008-01-28 Thread Cameron Childress
Ahh - Then I need to re-read the book.  I just pulled it off my 
bookshelf and dusted it off this morning. 

-Cameron

Adam Churvis wrote:
 Actually, as a wholesaler you would be responsible for collecting taxes on
 all five vehicles.  The taxes on the four you sold at retail would be
 considered Sales Taxes, and the one you consumed yourself as a wholesaler
 would be considered Use Tax. They are calculated exactly the same; the
 only difference is the way they are categorized for the government.

 There is a very nice mechanism built into the Fair Tax that prevents
 cheating in most cases, and that's the fact that all violations are federal
 offenses against a tax code, which historically have massive fines and
 prison terms.  Believe me, whoever is in charge of enforcement will make
 sure the money gets collected and paid to the government.
   

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RE: our new house (pics)

2008-01-28 Thread Scott Stewart
I understand, It had to be weird for her too, old ghosts hanging over and
all

BTW: the invitations open if y'all want to come down to NC.

-- 
Scott Stewart
ColdFusion Developer
 
SSTWebworks
4405 Oakshyre Way
Raleigh, NC. 27616
(919) 874-6229 (home)
(703) 220-2835 (cell)

-Original Message-
From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 10:21 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: our new house (pics)

thanks, thats jake, a stray we took in.  we have another one, a tortoise
shell
calico that is a stray we took in, ill have more pics of her soon too :)

fnck the old place basically, its beautiful and was mine, but yanno, its
best
for her an i to start over... (things have ALREADY gotten better, heheh, if
you
know what i mean!!!)

tw

On Jan 28, 2008 9:51 AM, Scott Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nce

 The kitten's cute too

 I totally understand about the ex-wife bad mojo.. I almost kept the the
 townhouse that my ex and I lived in... until I realzed I couldn't bring
 anyone female that I was dating back there, it was just to weird...

 --
 Scott Stewart
 ColdFusion Developer

 SSTWebworks
 4405 Oakshyre Way
 Raleigh, NC. 27616
 (919) 874-6229 (home)
 (703) 220-2835 (cell)

 -Original Message-
 From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 9:44 AM
 To: CF-Community
 Subject: Re: our new house (pics)

 circa. 1915.

 the old house is a long story.
 basically.

 1. 100% interest payment
 2. 3 yr arm
 3. current = 9%
 4. arm matures in 2010
 5. value of house in this market ~295,000
 6. vale of loan = 309000

 bad investment. bad bad bad.  house is on market
 im not making any more payments.  had to cut losses
 and roll.  new house is rental, in the heart of town, and
 we love it.  has no bad juju (exwife, etc) and is just totally
 tubular!!  we love it.  ill have some outside pics soon

 tw

 On 1/28/08, Erika L. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm confused and must of missed something somewhere - what happened to
the
  old house? You were so excited at getting it after the divorce ... I
 thought
  you loved it there?...
 
  This house looks like it'sa fantastic though! Wouldn't mind seeinng an
  outside pic of it. How old is it? Seems to have lovely wood floors and
  moldings, etc.
 
 
  On 1/28/08, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   finally i took some interior shots...
   more to come, here are a few...
  
   http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyweeg
  
   -
 
 
 



 



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RE: CF-Community Presidential Poll

2008-01-28 Thread Billy Cox
The line between wholesale and retail purchasing is blurry at times. If I
buy five Corvettes for resale, who is going to care whether one of them ends
up in the garage at my home long after the other Corvettes are sold?




-Original Message-
From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 7:35 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll


From:  http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer?pagename=about_faq_answers#1

The FairTax is a single-rate, federal retail sales tax collected only 
once, at the final point of purchase of new goods and services for 
personal consumption. Used items are not taxed. Business-to-business 
purchases for the production of goods and services are not taxed. A 
rebate makes the effective rate progressive.

-Cameron




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Re: our new house (pics)

2008-01-28 Thread Tony
its totally a victim... they SHOULDA NEVER given me that loan for that place.
never.

anyway, its all good, its our own place, we found it, has a fenced in
backyard (first in my life)
for my babies, and we LOVE IT!!!

tons of character, basement, GREAT moldings and 9ft ceilings, servant
stair case to kitchen
attic thats finished off, its just sooo damn cool...

tw

On Jan 28, 2008 10:02 AM, Erika L. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ahhh. Was wonderinng if it was a victim of the current housing market.

 Definitely understand the bad mojo too. It's always good to have a place the
 two of you picked out, looked for, made your own, etc.

 Look forward to more picks. 1915! Wow. If those walls could talk :)


 On 1/28/08, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  circa. 1915.
 
  the old house is a long story.
  basically.
 
 


 

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Re: our new house (pics)

2008-01-28 Thread J.J. Merrick
yeah you should never become a landlord by default.

Good call on the renting. No shame in cutting your losses and starting
over. Next time get a 15 year FIXED! :-)

-J.J.

On 1/28/08, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 at $2500 a month, i couldnt begin to think of renting it.
 it would get trashed in months, id have to take care of it
 and, well, you know people.  they are dirty, they smell
 they have bad habits, they fnck sh!it up, and im not down with it.

 its just not a poss.  the house is nearly brand new... here is the mls
 listing for my house...

 http://www.dpol.com/public/Report_custAllphotos.asp?ml=438889

 and the lady who owns my New/old house :) is the owner of a local
 huge amusement park in Ocean City.  its just a house she doesnt
 want to get rid of but rents it out to YUPPIES ... which fits us perfectly.
 not to mention its all hardwood therefore we cannot possibly eff it up
 with dogs and stuff... just perfect.

 o and we have a front porch :) i cant wait for summertime and
 storms and late evening breezes... they are soo awesome around here.

 and we have a 2nd floor sunroom :) sooo cool, and perfect for a hammock!

 later

 On Jan 28, 2008 10:29 AM, Cameron Childress [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Tony wrote:
   its totally a victim... they SHOULDA NEVER given me that loan for that 
   place.
   never.
 
  Interesting that you are renting a house now.  Alot of people who are
  upside-down in their home loans are attempting to rent them out to
  people to make the payments and hopefully wait out the market dip.  It
  would be ironic if you were renting from someone in that situation.
 
  -Cameron
 
 

 

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Re: our new house (pics)

2008-01-28 Thread Vivec
Gosh. The more I look at the rents and what you get for the money in
the US, the more I realise how insane our local real estate market is.
A house like Tony's in Trinidad will cost about US$400,000 and up
depending and will not have as much yard space either.

Small, two bedroom apartments are going for US$1700 + and those are
not done by Interior Architects and don't show fine design
sensibilities at all. I looked at a real estate website for Miami
Florida, on some of those Islands and US$2,500.00 got you a fantastic
apartment on one of the upper floors with proper designed rooms,
lovely tile floors and a gorgeous kitchen and two bathrooms. Something
like that here costs about US$3500 to US$4500 a month in one of our
'towers'.

GAH!!! Why does living on a damned island COST so much!???

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Re: our new house (pics)

2008-01-28 Thread Tony
at $2500 a month, i couldnt begin to think of renting it.
it would get trashed in months, id have to take care of it
and, well, you know people.  they are dirty, they smell
they have bad habits, they fnck sh!it up, and im not down with it.

its just not a poss.  the house is nearly brand new... here is the mls
listing for my house...

http://www.dpol.com/public/Report_custAllphotos.asp?ml=438889

and the lady who owns my New/old house :) is the owner of a local
huge amusement park in Ocean City.  its just a house she doesnt
want to get rid of but rents it out to YUPPIES ... which fits us perfectly.
not to mention its all hardwood therefore we cannot possibly eff it up
with dogs and stuff... just perfect.

o and we have a front porch :) i cant wait for summertime and
storms and late evening breezes... they are soo awesome around here.

and we have a 2nd floor sunroom :) sooo cool, and perfect for a hammock!

later

On Jan 28, 2008 10:29 AM, Cameron Childress [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tony wrote:
  its totally a victim... they SHOULDA NEVER given me that loan for that 
  place.
  never.

 Interesting that you are renting a house now.  Alot of people who are
 upside-down in their home loans are attempting to rent them out to
 people to make the payments and hopefully wait out the market dip.  It
 would be ironic if you were renting from someone in that situation.

 -Cameron

 

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Re: our new house (pics)

2008-01-28 Thread Ben Doom
Salsbury NC?  Where are you living now?  I need to start taking notes on 
people living within an hour of me...

--BenD

Tony wrote:
 oh, and its totally a countrywide loan :) hahahahaha, wtf. im EXACTLY
 what you see on tv.  except, mine hasnt matured yet, but im smart enough
 to know a bad investment and see the future, so its been on the market
 for a month now, had an open house, some showings, and its clear/clean
 and ready to sell!
 
 know anyone that wants to move to salisbury?
 
 tw
 
 On Jan 28, 2008 10:22 AM, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 its totally a victim... they SHOULDA NEVER given me that loan for that place.
 never.

 anyway, its all good, its our own place, we found it, has a fenced in
 backyard (first in my life)
 for my babies, and we LOVE IT!!!

 tons of character, basement, GREAT moldings and 9ft ceilings, servant
 stair case to kitchen
 attic thats finished off, its just sooo damn cool...

 tw

 On Jan 28, 2008 10:02 AM, Erika L. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ahhh. Was wonderinng if it was a victim of the current housing market.

 Definitely understand the bad mojo too. It's always good to have a place the
 two of you picked out, looked for, made your own, etc.

 Look forward to more picks. 1915! Wow. If those walls could talk :)


 On 1/28/08, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 circa. 1915.

 the old house is a long story.
 basically.




 
 

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Re: our new house (pics)

2008-01-28 Thread Tony
oh, and its totally a countrywide loan :) hahahahaha, wtf. im EXACTLY
what you see on tv.  except, mine hasnt matured yet, but im smart enough
to know a bad investment and see the future, so its been on the market
for a month now, had an open house, some showings, and its clear/clean
and ready to sell!

know anyone that wants to move to salisbury?

tw

On Jan 28, 2008 10:22 AM, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 its totally a victim... they SHOULDA NEVER given me that loan for that place.
 never.

 anyway, its all good, its our own place, we found it, has a fenced in
 backyard (first in my life)
 for my babies, and we LOVE IT!!!

 tons of character, basement, GREAT moldings and 9ft ceilings, servant
 stair case to kitchen
 attic thats finished off, its just sooo damn cool...

 tw

 On Jan 28, 2008 10:02 AM, Erika L. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Ahhh. Was wonderinng if it was a victim of the current housing market.
 
  Definitely understand the bad mojo too. It's always good to have a place the
  two of you picked out, looked for, made your own, etc.
 
  Look forward to more picks. 1915! Wow. If those walls could talk :)
 
 
  On 1/28/08, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   circa. 1915.
  
   the old house is a long story.
   basically.
  
  
 
 
  

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Re: For those in Maryland - Fight the Tech Tax

2008-01-28 Thread Tony
sent mine in.
blogged.

i did my 2 parts :0

tw

On 1/28/08, Sandra Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.fightthetechtax.com/index.cfm

 Feel free to pass it along.

 Sandra Clark
 =
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 Training and Consulting  in CSS and Accessibility
 Team Fusebox








 

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Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll

2008-01-28 Thread Cameron Childress
Adam Churvis wrote:
 I don't remember if they cover this in the book; I'm just going from the
 current definitions of things as they stand now.  

 The reason why I applied it to a Fair Tax scenario is because the need for
 such classification and corresponding collection of that class of taxes
 would obviously still exist.

I've never run a retail business so I really have no idea how taxable 
retail goods are tracked.  Is it based on the COGS on your books or do 
you have to give your fed tax id when you buy from a wholesaler?  Some 
other way?

-Cameron

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Re: our new house (pics)

2008-01-28 Thread Tony
circa. 1915.

the old house is a long story.
basically.

1. 100% interest payment
2. 3 yr arm
3. current = 9%
4. arm matures in 2010
5. value of house in this market ~295,000
6. vale of loan = 309000

bad investment. bad bad bad.  house is on market
im not making any more payments.  had to cut losses
and roll.  new house is rental, in the heart of town, and
we love it.  has no bad juju (exwife, etc) and is just totally
tubular!!  we love it.  ill have some outside pics soon

tw

On 1/28/08, Erika L. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm confused and must of missed something somewhere - what happened to the
 old house? You were so excited at getting it after the divorce ... I thought
 you loved it there?...

 This house looks like it'sa fantastic though! Wouldn't mind seeinng an
 outside pic of it. How old is it? Seems to have lovely wood floors and
 moldings, etc.


 On 1/28/08, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  finally i took some interior shots...
  more to come, here are a few...
 
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyweeg
 
  -


 

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Re: our new house (pics)

2008-01-28 Thread Tony
salisbury, md

tw

On Jan 28, 2008 10:53 AM, Ben Doom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Salsbury NC?  Where are you living now?  I need to start taking notes on
 people living within an hour of me...

 --BenD


 Tony wrote:
  oh, and its totally a countrywide loan :) hahahahaha, wtf. im EXACTLY
  what you see on tv.  except, mine hasnt matured yet, but im smart enough
  to know a bad investment and see the future, so its been on the market
  for a month now, had an open house, some showings, and its clear/clean
  and ready to sell!
 
  know anyone that wants to move to salisbury?
 
  tw
 
  On Jan 28, 2008 10:22 AM, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  its totally a victim... they SHOULDA NEVER given me that loan for that 
  place.
  never.
 
  anyway, its all good, its our own place, we found it, has a fenced in
  backyard (first in my life)
  for my babies, and we LOVE IT!!!
 
  tons of character, basement, GREAT moldings and 9ft ceilings, servant
  stair case to kitchen
  attic thats finished off, its just sooo damn cool...
 
  tw
 
  On Jan 28, 2008 10:02 AM, Erika L. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Ahhh. Was wonderinng if it was a victim of the current housing market.
 
  Definitely understand the bad mojo too. It's always good to have a place 
  the
  two of you picked out, looked for, made your own, etc.
 
  Look forward to more picks. 1915! Wow. If those walls could talk :)
 
 
  On 1/28/08, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  circa. 1915.
 
  the old house is a long story.
  basically.
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

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Re: our new house (pics)

2008-01-28 Thread Tony
hahah, i have another friend in pinehurst that wants me down
there too :)

ill letya know if we make it down that way... fer sheezy.

tw

On Jan 28, 2008 10:24 AM, Scott Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I understand, It had to be weird for her too, old ghosts hanging over and
 all

 BTW: the invitations open if y'all want to come down to NC.

 --
 Scott Stewart
 ColdFusion Developer

 SSTWebworks
 4405 Oakshyre Way
 Raleigh, NC. 27616
 (919) 874-6229 (home)
 (703) 220-2835 (cell)

 -Original Message-
 From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 10:21 AM
 To: CF-Community
 Subject: Re: our new house (pics)

 thanks, thats jake, a stray we took in.  we have another one, a tortoise
 shell
 calico that is a stray we took in, ill have more pics of her soon too :)

 fnck the old place basically, its beautiful and was mine, but yanno, its
 best
 for her an i to start over... (things have ALREADY gotten better, heheh, if
 you
 know what i mean!!!)

 tw

 On Jan 28, 2008 9:51 AM, Scott Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Nce
 
  The kitten's cute too
 
  I totally understand about the ex-wife bad mojo.. I almost kept the the
  townhouse that my ex and I lived in... until I realzed I couldn't bring
  anyone female that I was dating back there, it was just to weird...
 
  --
  Scott Stewart
  ColdFusion Developer
 
  SSTWebworks
  4405 Oakshyre Way
  Raleigh, NC. 27616
  (919) 874-6229 (home)
  (703) 220-2835 (cell)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 9:44 AM
  To: CF-Community
  Subject: Re: our new house (pics)
 
  circa. 1915.
 
  the old house is a long story.
  basically.
 
  1. 100% interest payment
  2. 3 yr arm
  3. current = 9%
  4. arm matures in 2010
  5. value of house in this market ~295,000
  6. vale of loan = 309000
 
  bad investment. bad bad bad.  house is on market
  im not making any more payments.  had to cut losses
  and roll.  new house is rental, in the heart of town, and
  we love it.  has no bad juju (exwife, etc) and is just totally
  tubular!!  we love it.  ill have some outside pics soon
 
  tw
 
  On 1/28/08, Erika L. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I'm confused and must of missed something somewhere - what happened to
 the
   old house? You were so excited at getting it after the divorce ... I
  thought
   you loved it there?...
  
   This house looks like it'sa fantastic though! Wouldn't mind seeinng an
   outside pic of it. How old is it? Seems to have lovely wood floors and
   moldings, etc.
  
  
   On 1/28/08, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
finally i took some interior shots...
more to come, here are a few...
   
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyweeg
   
-
  
  
  
 
 
 
 



 

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Re: terror plots foiled across Europe

2008-01-28 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
wow!  you guys have really good imaginations!  Next I'll scan an image
of my palm and you can tell me what it infers about the current
situations of the Inuits.


On Jan 28, 2008 7:34 AM, G Money [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Jan 27, 2008 9:53 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  If you put your hand in a hornet's nest, do you deserve to be stung?
  Would you expect to be stung?  Two different questions there.  Mine
  was the 2nd.
 
 
 Interesting analogy. You seem to advocate leaving the hornet's nest alone
 entirely.let someone else deal with itlet the hornets sting someone
 else's kids.

 --
 The passion that sparked me one terrible night
 And shocked and persuaded my soul to delight


 

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Re: our new house (pics)

2008-01-28 Thread Crow T. Robot
So...are you letting the house just lapse into bankruptcy?  Wondering how
you are able to not pay off a mortgage...

On Jan 28, 2008 10:30 AM, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 NO DOUBT.

 we are saving 1500 each month by not paying that damn mortgage
 cutting our losses, renting and doing our thing starting over...

 and no bad juju in the house!!!

 :) big ups

 On Jan 28, 2008 11:23 AM, J.J. Merrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  yeah you should never become a landlord by default.
 
  Good call on the renting. No shame in cutting your losses and starting
  over. Next time get a 15 year FIXED! :-)
 
  -J.J.
 
  On 1/28/08, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   at $2500 a month, i couldnt begin to think of renting it.
   it would get trashed in months, id have to take care of it
   and, well, you know people.  they are dirty, they smell
   they have bad habits, they fnck sh!it up, and im not down with it.
  
   its just not a poss.  the house is nearly brand new... here is the mls
   listing for my house...
  
   http://www.dpol.com/public/Report_custAllphotos.asp?ml=438889
  
   and the lady who owns my New/old house :) is the owner of a local
   huge amusement park in Ocean City.  its just a house she doesnt
   want to get rid of but rents it out to YUPPIES ... which fits us
 perfectly.
   not to mention its all hardwood therefore we cannot possibly eff it up
   with dogs and stuff... just perfect.
  
   o and we have a front porch :) i cant wait for summertime and
   storms and late evening breezes... they are soo awesome around here.
  
   and we have a 2nd floor sunroom :) sooo cool, and perfect for a
 hammock!
  
   later
  
   On Jan 28, 2008 10:29 AM, Cameron Childress [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
Tony wrote:
 its totally a victim... they SHOULDA NEVER given me that loan for
 that place.
 never.
   
Interesting that you are renting a house now.  Alot of people who
 are
upside-down in their home loans are attempting to rent them out to
people to make the payments and hopefully wait out the market dip.
  It
would be ironic if you were renting from someone in that situation.
   
-Cameron
   
   
  
  
 
 

 

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Re: Now I are one

2008-01-28 Thread Loathe
Dana wrote:
 actually let me amend that -- by my definition I always was and still
 am conservative :) However, I still think Bush is the antichrist, and
 that we should leave Iraq forthwith and close Guantanamo so by
 your definitions, probably not.

 I find it really amazing that on the Republican side political
 correctness is keeping people from coming out against torture and
 indefinite imprisonment. And the fact that they oppose economic
 stimulus if someone on food stamps might get enough to eat out of the
 deal is also quite amusing :O )

 Hell yeah, let's take some more money out of circulation and send it
 to the Cayman Islands. Go W!

 LOL

 On 1/27/08, Dana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 ha :) You wish I would swing towards conservatism lol :)

 1/27/08, Loathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 And suddenly your recent swing towards conservatism makes perfect sense :)

 Congrats lady, it's an incredible feeling huh?

 Dana wrote:
   
 I think so ! I'm excited, can you tell? LOL. Thanks :)

 On Jan 26, 2008 7:38 AM, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 dopeness.

 so, it looks very jackson pollack.

 is it as modern and cool as it appears?

 tw

 On Jan 26, 2008 9:19 AM, Paul Ihrig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 friggin geourgeous!
 congrats Dana!

 the view would have me drooling all day..



 
 
   

 

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Re: our new house (pics)

2008-01-28 Thread Ben Doom
High Point (just barely outside G'Boro).  I spend my Saturdays gaming 
with friends in Raliegh.  Near Falls of Neuse and Millbrook.

--BenD

Scott Stewart wrote:
 He's in Salisbury, MD.
 
 I'm in Raleigh, what part of NC are you in.
 
 


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Re: our new house (pics)

2008-01-28 Thread J.J. Merrick
Yeah the last thing they want is another house to have to sell.

Short Sell without recourse would be your best bet...


J.J.

On 1/28/08, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 well, ive been OTP with Countrwide a lot.

 we started this process a few months ago. and they've told me this.

 we will not foreclose on you  instead they will do the following in order
 and it was good that i started the dialog a while ago...

 1. list it, try to sell it (i started this back in Nov.)
 2. short sell (basically agree on a lesser price and if i can find a buyer
 who will buy it for that they will take that and say goodbye) and thanks
 to the one thing Shrub has done, his new fix for the mrtg crisis one of the
 stipulations said that the difference is no longer (for like 3 more years)
 shown as income... as it used to be that the diff in a short sell and actual
 loan value was shown as income :( bad bad bad.
 3. if no sell, we will do a deed in lieu of foreclosure (kinda like a
 foreclosure
 but not, really, not as bad on credit as fc)

 but they said i have months before that even starts, and they havent even
 started that. in fact im still in their Workout Process which bought me even
 more time.  fc takes a LOAD of money, and time, and they'd rather just 
 transfer
 the deed than do a FC.

 tw

 On 1/28/08, Crow T. Robot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  So...are you letting the house just lapse into bankruptcy?  Wondering how
  you are able to not pay off a mortgage...
 
  On Jan 28, 2008 10:30 AM, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   NO DOUBT.
  
   we are saving 1500 each month by not paying that damn mortgage
   cutting our losses, renting and doing our thing starting over...
  
   and no bad juju in the house!!!
  
   :) big ups
  
   On Jan 28, 2008 11:23 AM, J.J. Merrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
yeah you should never become a landlord by default.
   
Good call on the renting. No shame in cutting your losses and starting
over. Next time get a 15 year FIXED! :-)
   
-J.J.
   
On 1/28/08, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 at $2500 a month, i couldnt begin to think of renting it.
 it would get trashed in months, id have to take care of it
 and, well, you know people.  they are dirty, they smell
 they have bad habits, they fnck sh!it up, and im not down with it.

 its just not a poss.  the house is nearly brand new... here is the mls
 listing for my house...

 http://www.dpol.com/public/Report_custAllphotos.asp?ml=438889

 and the lady who owns my New/old house :) is the owner of a local
 huge amusement park in Ocean City.  its just a house she doesnt
 want to get rid of but rents it out to YUPPIES ... which fits us
   perfectly.
 not to mention its all hardwood therefore we cannot possibly eff it up
 with dogs and stuff... just perfect.

 o and we have a front porch :) i cant wait for summertime and
 storms and late evening breezes... they are soo awesome around here.

 and we have a 2nd floor sunroom :) sooo cool, and perfect for a
   hammock!

 later

 On Jan 28, 2008 10:29 AM, Cameron Childress [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
  Tony wrote:
   its totally a victim... they SHOULDA NEVER given me that loan for
   that place.
   never.
 
  Interesting that you are renting a house now.  Alot of people who
   are
  upside-down in their home loans are attempting to rent them out to
  people to make the payments and hopefully wait out the market dip.
It
  would be ironic if you were renting from someone in that situation.
 
  -Cameron
 
 


   
   
  
  
 
 

 

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Re: our new house (pics)

2008-01-28 Thread Cameron Childress
Yeah - the math often doesn't work.  I have a friend in the Orlando area 
who's home value is getting totally trashed right now and all the houses 
around him have already tried the rent route and failed.  He may have to 
give it up too.  Sux...

-Cameron

Tony wrote:
 at $2500 a month, i couldnt begin to think of renting it.
 it would get trashed in months, id have to take care of it
 and, well, you know people.  they are dirty, they smell
 they have bad habits, they fnck sh!it up, and im not down with it.
   


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Re: our new house (pics)

2008-01-28 Thread Tony
NO DOUBT.

we are saving 1500 each month by not paying that damn mortgage
cutting our losses, renting and doing our thing starting over...

and no bad juju in the house!!!

:) big ups

On Jan 28, 2008 11:23 AM, J.J. Merrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 yeah you should never become a landlord by default.

 Good call on the renting. No shame in cutting your losses and starting
 over. Next time get a 15 year FIXED! :-)

 -J.J.

 On 1/28/08, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  at $2500 a month, i couldnt begin to think of renting it.
  it would get trashed in months, id have to take care of it
  and, well, you know people.  they are dirty, they smell
  they have bad habits, they fnck sh!it up, and im not down with it.
 
  its just not a poss.  the house is nearly brand new... here is the mls
  listing for my house...
 
  http://www.dpol.com/public/Report_custAllphotos.asp?ml=438889
 
  and the lady who owns my New/old house :) is the owner of a local
  huge amusement park in Ocean City.  its just a house she doesnt
  want to get rid of but rents it out to YUPPIES ... which fits us perfectly.
  not to mention its all hardwood therefore we cannot possibly eff it up
  with dogs and stuff... just perfect.
 
  o and we have a front porch :) i cant wait for summertime and
  storms and late evening breezes... they are soo awesome around here.
 
  and we have a 2nd floor sunroom :) sooo cool, and perfect for a hammock!
 
  later
 
  On Jan 28, 2008 10:29 AM, Cameron Childress [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Tony wrote:
its totally a victim... they SHOULDA NEVER given me that loan for that 
place.
never.
  
   Interesting that you are renting a house now.  Alot of people who are
   upside-down in their home loans are attempting to rent them out to
   people to make the payments and hopefully wait out the market dip.  It
   would be ironic if you were renting from someone in that situation.
  
   -Cameron
  
  
 
 

 

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Re: terror plots foiled across Europe

2008-01-28 Thread Loathe
You a felon or something man?

Dr. Who wrote:
 so wish i could buy a gun...
 http://picasaweb.google.com/gtnichols/TargetMatch/photo#5159246267522138882

 buddy of mine just showed me an old pic..


 

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Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll

2008-01-28 Thread Sam
On Jan 28, 2008 9:48 AM, Loathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 He already did, just because it's not on Fox doesn't mean it didn't happen.

You sound like Dana.
He said he didn't write the letters and it's old news. That's not enough.


 Also, an isolationist US is how this country was founded, read
 Washington's Farewell sometime.

 Read some of what Ben Franklin had to say about meddling in the affairs
 f other nations.  he was a diplomat, knew how to USE another country
 without befriending them or becoming involved in their internal politics.

You know what will happen if we turn our back on the world. 9/11 was
just the beginning.

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thunderbird arrrrgggghhhh

2008-01-28 Thread Loathe
ck, so Thunderbird by default is having me write at the bottom of a 
message, but seems to be cutting my text out, also it's adding non-text 
shit in here when I respond, I just want plain text 100% of the time.


HELP!!

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Re: Did a 5 hour tour of my daughters' school Saturday.

2008-01-28 Thread Vivec
How did it feel as a teacher when you had a favorite class, or
studentsand they left?
I mean...they're going to leave.

Is it like working in an office as the boss, and every year your
entire staff changes?

And the material...how did it feel teaching the same things year after year?

Does the fact that you're teaching it to different students make up for that?

On Jan 28, 2008 2:19 PM, Shawna Hampton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 As a former teacher, I've always been in awe of the Montessori method and
 its outstanding results ... I wish, wish, wish we'd been taught how to
 implement even minor Montessori methods in our education classes (it was
 kind of treated like a dirty word) ... instead we were drilled more on how
 to proctor standardized tests ... **sigh** and some people wonder why I'm
 not a teacher anymore

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Re: Did a 5 hour tour of my daughters' school Saturday.

2008-01-28 Thread Jerry Johnson
Kind of amazing she would keep taking a paycheck, isn't it?

(btw, principal)

On Jan 28, 2008 1:30 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There was a principle of a local elementary school there trying to
 decide if she wanted to start her daughter there.  She was explaining
 to us that the public school teachers were well aware of the
 Montessori methods and would love to implement them, but were not
 allowed the time to implement them.

 To me, it's a pretty powerful statement when you're the principle of a
 school and you don't even want your own daughter going to it.



 On Jan 28, 2008 12:19 PM, Shawna Hampton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  As a former teacher, I've always been in awe of the Montessori method and
  its outstanding results ... I wish, wish, wish we'd been taught how to
  implement even minor Montessori methods in our education classes (it was
  kind of treated like a dirty word) ... instead we were drilled more on how
  to proctor standardized tests ... **sigh** and some people wonder why I'm
  not a teacher anymore
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 11:19 AM
  To: CF-Community
  Subject: Did a 5 hour tour of my daughters' school Saturday.
 
  All three of my daughters go to a Montessori school.  We get things
  home from them and wonder what exactly they are or how they can do
  things like this (My 7.9 year old is doing multiplication of 3 digit
  numbers by 2 digit numbers).  So they have this thing once a year
  called Journey of Discoverycheesy name for sure, but it's a 5
  hour walkthrough of the Montessori classroom from toddler to 6th
  grade.
 
  I was amazed at the amount of stuff in the toddler and preprimary
  classrooms.  There were shelves upon shelves of works and knick
  knacks.  Everything was in it's place though.  The surprising thing
  was that it was maintained that way by the kids themselves.  At that
  level they start teaching responsibility to self and the group.  If
  you don't put something back right, the next person to use it won't
  know where to find it.  In the 1st~3rd grade class they showed us how
  they do bead math by doing problems like 156x84 and 208/13, etcall
  in a manipulative way.  It was quite amazing.  In the 4th~6th
  classroom, they showed us how to find the sq root of 1369, again with
  beads.  They showed the research projects on evolution and mankind's
  development from early man to modern man, one research project a
  month.  I forgot to mention that once they master the concept of the
  math with beads, they're taught the abstract form of doing it.  The
  theory being that once they know how something works, they can
  abstract the process out.
 
  Before it got started though, all the parents that had children
  attending were asked to relate a Montessori moment.  I had forgotten
  about this until my wife retold it
 
  My twin daughters were fighting one day and it was getting very
  heated.  My 7 year old ran out of the room and came back a few seconds
  later carrying two teddy bears of hers.  My wife was listening to what
  was going on just outside the door.  My 7yo handed a bear to each
  sister and told them, These are your peace bears to keep forever.
  Whenever you and sister fight, you need to get your peace bear and hug
  it as hard as you can instead of hitting or pinching your sister.  The
  more angry you are, the harder you need to hug it.  This way nobody
  gets hurt and if you hug it hard enough, you'll feel better  My wife
  was pretty impressed with this and later she thanked our 7yo for
  thinking of this idea.  My wife noticed that the girls got very
  different size bears, one being about 12 inches tall and the other
  being about 2.5 feet tall.  She asked my 7yo why she gave one sister
  such a big bear and she replied, Because I know she's got a lot more
  anger inside of her
 
  That was definitely the conflict management classes working there :)
 
 
 
  --
  We were freedom
  From the moment that we hit the ground
  And the wild man
  He laid the thunder down
 
 
 
 

 

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Re: Now I are one

2008-01-28 Thread Loathe
Loathe wrote:
 Dana wrote:
   
 actually let me amend that -- by my definition I always was and still
 am conservative :) However, I still think Bush is the antichrist, and
 that we should leave Iraq forthwith and close Guantanamo so by
 your definitions, probably not.

 I find it really amazing that on the Republican side political
 correctness is keeping people from coming out against torture and
 indefinite imprisonment. And the fact that they oppose economic
 stimulus if someone on food stamps might get enough to eat out of the
 deal is also quite amusing :O )

 Hell yeah, let's take some more money out of circulation and send it
 to the Cayman Islands. Go W!

 LOL

 On 1/27/08, Dana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 
 ha :) You wish I would swing towards conservatism lol :)

 1/27/08, Loathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   
 And suddenly your recent swing towards conservatism makes perfect sense :)

 Congrats lady, it's an incredible feeling huh?

 Dana wrote:
   
 
 I think so ! I'm excited, can you tell? LOL. Thanks :)

 On Jan 26, 2008 7:38 AM, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
   
 dopeness.

 so, it looks very jackson pollack.

 is it as modern and cool as it appears?

 tw

 On Jan 26, 2008 9:19 AM, Paul Ihrig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 
 friggin geourgeous!
 congrats Dana!

 the view would have me drooling all day..



 
   
 
   
   
 
 

 

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Re: our new house (pics)

2008-01-28 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
Loathe, quit using sign language!  It's very easy to decipher it through email.

On Jan 28, 2008 12:28 PM, Loathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Erika L. Walker wrote:
  Ahhh. Was wonderinng if it was a victim of the current housing market.
 
  Definitely understand the bad mojo too. It's always good to have a place the
  two of you picked out, looked for, made your own, etc.
 
  Look forward to more picks. 1915! Wow. If those walls could talk :)
 
 
  On 1/28/08, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  circa. 1915.
 
  the old house is a long story.
  basically.
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

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Re: terror plots foiled across Europe

2008-01-28 Thread Michael Dinowitz
There have been a number of terror plots discovered and prevented in
Germany. Far more than Spain. I think the plots discovered in France are
less than Spain, but they have their riots of 'youths'.

On Jan 28, 2008 12:49 PM, Loathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 France and Germany?

 Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
  yeah, it's almost a shame they went in there in the first place and
  made themselves targets.
 
 
  On Jan 27, 2008 6:08 PM, Robert Munn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Has anyone been following this story?
 
 
 http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/01/27/spain.europe.terror.plot/index.html
 
  Good thing the Spanish got out of Iraq so they wouldn't be targets for
  terrorist plots.
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

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Re: terror plots foiled across Europe

2008-01-28 Thread Loathe
Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
 wow!  you guys have really good imaginations!  Next I'll scan an image
 of my palm and you can tell me what it infers about the current
 situations of the Inuits.


 On Jan 28, 2008 7:34 AM, G Money [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 On Jan 27, 2008 9:53 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 
 If you put your hand in a hornet's nest, do you deserve to be stung?
 Would you expect to be stung?  Two different questions there.  Mine
 was the 2nd.


   
 Interesting analogy. You seem to advocate leaving the hornet's nest alone
 entirely.let someone else deal with itlet the hornets sting someone
 else's kids.

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 The passion that sparked me one terrible night
 And shocked and persuaded my soul to delight



 

 

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RE: our new house (pics)

2008-01-28 Thread Jacob
Your right.  Law just changed.  Never mind

-Original Message-
From: J.J. Merrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 9:39 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: our new house (pics)

oh wait... H.R. 3648 said that the shortsell difference isn't income
therefore not taxed.

J.J.

On 1/28/08, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 But, on a short sale, you would owe taxes on the difference.

 -Original Message-
 From: J.J. Merrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 9:13 AM
 To: CF-Community
 Subject: Re: our new house (pics)

 Yeah the last thing they want is another house to have to sell.

 Short Sell without recourse would be your best bet...


 J.J.

 On 1/28/08, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  well, ive been OTP with Countrwide a lot.
 
  we started this process a few months ago. and they've told me this.
 
  we will not foreclose on you  instead they will do the following in
 order
  and it was good that i started the dialog a while ago...
 
  1. list it, try to sell it (i started this back in Nov.)
  2. short sell (basically agree on a lesser price and if i can find a
buyer
  who will buy it for that they will take that and say goodbye) and thanks
  to the one thing Shrub has done, his new fix for the mrtg crisis one of
 the
  stipulations said that the difference is no longer (for like 3 more
years)
  shown as income... as it used to be that the diff in a short sell and
 actual
  loan value was shown as income :( bad bad bad.
  3. if no sell, we will do a deed in lieu of foreclosure (kinda like a
  foreclosure
  but not, really, not as bad on credit as fc)
 
  but they said i have months before that even starts, and they havent
even
  started that. in fact im still in their Workout Process which bought
me
 even
  more time.  fc takes a LOAD of money, and time, and they'd rather just
 transfer
  the deed than do a FC.
 
  tw
 
  On 1/28/08, Crow T. Robot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   So...are you letting the house just lapse into bankruptcy?  Wondering
 how
   you are able to not pay off a mortgage...
  
   On Jan 28, 2008 10:30 AM, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
NO DOUBT.
   
we are saving 1500 each month by not paying that damn mortgage
cutting our losses, renting and doing our thing starting over...
   
and no bad juju in the house!!!
   
:) big ups
   
On Jan 28, 2008 11:23 AM, J.J. Merrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 yeah you should never become a landlord by default.

 Good call on the renting. No shame in cutting your losses and
 starting
 over. Next time get a 15 year FIXED! :-)

 -J.J.

 On 1/28/08, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  at $2500 a month, i couldnt begin to think of renting it.
  it would get trashed in months, id have to take care of it
  and, well, you know people.  they are dirty, they smell
  they have bad habits, they fnck sh!it up, and im not down with
it.
 
  its just not a poss.  the house is nearly brand new... here is
the
 mls
  listing for my house...
 
  http://www.dpol.com/public/Report_custAllphotos.asp?ml=438889
 
  and the lady who owns my New/old house :) is the owner of a
local
  huge amusement park in Ocean City.  its just a house she doesnt
  want to get rid of but rents it out to YUPPIES ... which fits us
perfectly.
  not to mention its all hardwood therefore we cannot possibly eff
 it up
  with dogs and stuff... just perfect.
 
  o and we have a front porch :) i cant wait for summertime
and
  storms and late evening breezes... they are soo awesome around
 here.
 
  and we have a 2nd floor sunroom :) sooo cool, and perfect for a
hammock!
 
  later
 
  On Jan 28, 2008 10:29 AM, Cameron Childress [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
   Tony wrote:
its totally a victim... they SHOULDA NEVER given me that
loan
 for
that place.
never.
  
   Interesting that you are renting a house now.  Alot of people
 who
are
   upside-down in their home loans are attempting to rent them
out
 to
   people to make the payments and hopefully wait out the market
 dip.
 It
   would be ironic if you were renting from someone in that
 situation.
  
   -Cameron
  
  
 
 


   
   
  
  
 
 



 



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Re: terror plots foiled across Europe

2008-01-28 Thread Loathe
Define lost cause for me Dana.

Dana wrote:
 um... I have never listened to Air America. So I would have to take
 your word for that, though I don't see the relevance.

 I don't think the argument ever was that Spain deserved what it got.
 That is just your personal red herring. Here is what I am saying -- an
 anonymous source says there were terrorist threats in Spain. This may
 be possible and may even true. It is even possible that the source is
 right about that. None of this say the government of Spain was wrong
 to recognize a lost cause when it saw one. I personally would have
 preferred that they do it in a way that avoided the attacks being
 linked to their withdrawal, but it's their country.

 Shame they don't teach critical thinking is schools any more.  For all
 we know Chertoff was having hunches again and this led to the arrest
 of another waiter or two...


 On Jan 27, 2008 8:43 PM, Cameron Childress [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Liberal conclusions.  And I mean that in more than one way.  :)

 I find it interesting that you are quickly redirecting us away from the
 original indefensible argument about Spain somehow deserving what they
 got.  I've noticed this pattern before, very often on Air America.

 Do you really think that Spain deserves to be attacked by terrorist
 group(s) who don't represent any country Spain ever stepped foot into?

 Dana wrote:
 
 you did ;) Apparently stuff does apparently eventually sink in. So
 there is hope. But, next question, who does Cameron think we are
 fighting in Iraq? And why?

 On Jan 27, 2008 8:05 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 whoa!  did I just hear you say Al Qaeda has nothing to do with Iraq!  :)

 but seriously, didn't the U.S., a third party, rush into Kuwait
 whenever Iraq invaded?

 
 

 

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Did a 5 hour tour of my daughters' school Saturday.

2008-01-28 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
All three of my daughters go to a Montessori school.  We get things
home from them and wonder what exactly they are or how they can do
things like this (My 7.9 year old is doing multiplication of 3 digit
numbers by 2 digit numbers).  So they have this thing once a year
called Journey of Discoverycheesy name for sure, but it's a 5
hour walkthrough of the Montessori classroom from toddler to 6th
grade.

I was amazed at the amount of stuff in the toddler and preprimary
classrooms.  There were shelves upon shelves of works and knick
knacks.  Everything was in it's place though.  The surprising thing
was that it was maintained that way by the kids themselves.  At that
level they start teaching responsibility to self and the group.  If
you don't put something back right, the next person to use it won't
know where to find it.  In the 1st~3rd grade class they showed us how
they do bead math by doing problems like 156x84 and 208/13, etcall
in a manipulative way.  It was quite amazing.  In the 4th~6th
classroom, they showed us how to find the sq root of 1369, again with
beads.  They showed the research projects on evolution and mankind's
development from early man to modern man, one research project a
month.  I forgot to mention that once they master the concept of the
math with beads, they're taught the abstract form of doing it.  The
theory being that once they know how something works, they can
abstract the process out.

Before it got started though, all the parents that had children
attending were asked to relate a Montessori moment.  I had forgotten
about this until my wife retold it

My twin daughters were fighting one day and it was getting very
heated.  My 7 year old ran out of the room and came back a few seconds
later carrying two teddy bears of hers.  My wife was listening to what
was going on just outside the door.  My 7yo handed a bear to each
sister and told them, These are your peace bears to keep forever.
Whenever you and sister fight, you need to get your peace bear and hug
it as hard as you can instead of hitting or pinching your sister.  The
more angry you are, the harder you need to hug it.  This way nobody
gets hurt and if you hug it hard enough, you'll feel better  My wife
was pretty impressed with this and later she thanked our 7yo for
thinking of this idea.  My wife noticed that the girls got very
different size bears, one being about 12 inches tall and the other
being about 2.5 feet tall.  She asked my 7yo why she gave one sister
such a big bear and she replied, Because I know she's got a lot more
anger inside of her

That was definitely the conflict management classes working there :)



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Re: terror plots foiled across Europe

2008-01-28 Thread Loathe
A post deployment questionnaire:

Q: Did you engage, wound or kill anyone?

A: Hadji's or real people?

Cameron Childress wrote:
 Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
   
 aha! That's your angle.I don't ever remember saying that Spain
 deserved to be attacked.  If anything it was the analogy (which wasn't
 mine) that said that.
   
 

 I thought you'd said they made themselves targets?  In the same way a 
 rape victim does?

   
 If you put your hand in a hornet's nest, do you deserve to be stung?
 Would you expect to be stung?  Two different questions there.  Mine
 was the 2nd.
   
 

 Sure, hornets are dumb animals without the ability to reason and without 
 a political agenda.  Humans have the ability to reason.  Unless you 
 think we are talking about dumb animals without that ability?

 

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RE: our new house (pics)

2008-01-28 Thread Jacob
But, on a short sale, you would owe taxes on the difference.

-Original Message-
From: J.J. Merrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 9:13 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: our new house (pics)

Yeah the last thing they want is another house to have to sell.

Short Sell without recourse would be your best bet...


J.J.

On 1/28/08, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 well, ive been OTP with Countrwide a lot.

 we started this process a few months ago. and they've told me this.

 we will not foreclose on you  instead they will do the following in
order
 and it was good that i started the dialog a while ago...

 1. list it, try to sell it (i started this back in Nov.)
 2. short sell (basically agree on a lesser price and if i can find a buyer
 who will buy it for that they will take that and say goodbye) and thanks
 to the one thing Shrub has done, his new fix for the mrtg crisis one of
the
 stipulations said that the difference is no longer (for like 3 more years)
 shown as income... as it used to be that the diff in a short sell and
actual
 loan value was shown as income :( bad bad bad.
 3. if no sell, we will do a deed in lieu of foreclosure (kinda like a
 foreclosure
 but not, really, not as bad on credit as fc)

 but they said i have months before that even starts, and they havent even
 started that. in fact im still in their Workout Process which bought me
even
 more time.  fc takes a LOAD of money, and time, and they'd rather just
transfer
 the deed than do a FC.

 tw

 On 1/28/08, Crow T. Robot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  So...are you letting the house just lapse into bankruptcy?  Wondering
how
  you are able to not pay off a mortgage...
 
  On Jan 28, 2008 10:30 AM, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   NO DOUBT.
  
   we are saving 1500 each month by not paying that damn mortgage
   cutting our losses, renting and doing our thing starting over...
  
   and no bad juju in the house!!!
  
   :) big ups
  
   On Jan 28, 2008 11:23 AM, J.J. Merrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
yeah you should never become a landlord by default.
   
Good call on the renting. No shame in cutting your losses and
starting
over. Next time get a 15 year FIXED! :-)
   
-J.J.
   
On 1/28/08, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 at $2500 a month, i couldnt begin to think of renting it.
 it would get trashed in months, id have to take care of it
 and, well, you know people.  they are dirty, they smell
 they have bad habits, they fnck sh!it up, and im not down with it.

 its just not a poss.  the house is nearly brand new... here is the
mls
 listing for my house...

 http://www.dpol.com/public/Report_custAllphotos.asp?ml=438889

 and the lady who owns my New/old house :) is the owner of a local
 huge amusement park in Ocean City.  its just a house she doesnt
 want to get rid of but rents it out to YUPPIES ... which fits us
   perfectly.
 not to mention its all hardwood therefore we cannot possibly eff
it up
 with dogs and stuff... just perfect.

 o and we have a front porch :) i cant wait for summertime and
 storms and late evening breezes... they are soo awesome around
here.

 and we have a 2nd floor sunroom :) sooo cool, and perfect for a
   hammock!

 later

 On Jan 28, 2008 10:29 AM, Cameron Childress [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
  Tony wrote:
   its totally a victim... they SHOULDA NEVER given me that loan
for
   that place.
   never.
 
  Interesting that you are renting a house now.  Alot of people
who
   are
  upside-down in their home loans are attempting to rent them out
to
  people to make the payments and hopefully wait out the market
dip.
It
  would be ironic if you were renting from someone in that
situation.
 
  -Cameron
 
 


   
   
  
  
 
 

 



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RE: our new house (pics)

2008-01-28 Thread Scott Stewart
He's in Salisbury, MD.

I'm in Raleigh, what part of NC are you in.


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ColdFusion Developer
 
SSTWebworks
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(703) 220-2835 (cell)

-Original Message-
From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 10:54 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: our new house (pics)

Salsbury NC?  Where are you living now?  I need to start taking notes on 
people living within an hour of me...

--BenD

Tony wrote:
 oh, and its totally a countrywide loan :) hahahahaha, wtf. im EXACTLY
 what you see on tv.  except, mine hasnt matured yet, but im smart enough
 to know a bad investment and see the future, so its been on the market
 for a month now, had an open house, some showings, and its clear/clean
 and ready to sell!
 
 know anyone that wants to move to salisbury?
 
 tw
 
 On Jan 28, 2008 10:22 AM, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 its totally a victim... they SHOULDA NEVER given me that loan for that
place.
 never.

 anyway, its all good, its our own place, we found it, has a fenced in
 backyard (first in my life)
 for my babies, and we LOVE IT!!!

 tons of character, basement, GREAT moldings and 9ft ceilings, servant
 stair case to kitchen
 attic thats finished off, its just sooo damn cool...

 tw

 On Jan 28, 2008 10:02 AM, Erika L. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ahhh. Was wonderinng if it was a victim of the current housing market.

 Definitely understand the bad mojo too. It's always good to have a place
the
 two of you picked out, looked for, made your own, etc.

 Look forward to more picks. 1915! Wow. If those walls could talk :)


 On 1/28/08, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 circa. 1915.

 the old house is a long story.
 basically.




 
 



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Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll

2008-01-28 Thread Loathe
He already did, just because it's not on Fox doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Also, an isolationist US is how this country was founded, read 
Washington's Farewell sometime.

Read some of what Ben Franklin had to say about meddling in the affairs 
f other nations.  he was a diplomat, knew how to USE another country 
without befriending them or becoming involved in their internal politics.
 If he came out and said once I don't support the haters that support
 me I'd might listen some.

 Do you really think pulling back the military and and closing the door
 to the world will make us safe? Sounds like China way back.
   


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Re: our new house (pics)

2008-01-28 Thread J.J. Merrick
oh wait... H.R. 3648 said that the shortsell difference isn't income
therefore not taxed.

J.J.

On 1/28/08, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 But, on a short sale, you would owe taxes on the difference.

 -Original Message-
 From: J.J. Merrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 9:13 AM
 To: CF-Community
 Subject: Re: our new house (pics)

 Yeah the last thing they want is another house to have to sell.

 Short Sell without recourse would be your best bet...


 J.J.

 On 1/28/08, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  well, ive been OTP with Countrwide a lot.
 
  we started this process a few months ago. and they've told me this.
 
  we will not foreclose on you  instead they will do the following in
 order
  and it was good that i started the dialog a while ago...
 
  1. list it, try to sell it (i started this back in Nov.)
  2. short sell (basically agree on a lesser price and if i can find a buyer
  who will buy it for that they will take that and say goodbye) and thanks
  to the one thing Shrub has done, his new fix for the mrtg crisis one of
 the
  stipulations said that the difference is no longer (for like 3 more years)
  shown as income... as it used to be that the diff in a short sell and
 actual
  loan value was shown as income :( bad bad bad.
  3. if no sell, we will do a deed in lieu of foreclosure (kinda like a
  foreclosure
  but not, really, not as bad on credit as fc)
 
  but they said i have months before that even starts, and they havent even
  started that. in fact im still in their Workout Process which bought me
 even
  more time.  fc takes a LOAD of money, and time, and they'd rather just
 transfer
  the deed than do a FC.
 
  tw
 
  On 1/28/08, Crow T. Robot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   So...are you letting the house just lapse into bankruptcy?  Wondering
 how
   you are able to not pay off a mortgage...
  
   On Jan 28, 2008 10:30 AM, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
NO DOUBT.
   
we are saving 1500 each month by not paying that damn mortgage
cutting our losses, renting and doing our thing starting over...
   
and no bad juju in the house!!!
   
:) big ups
   
On Jan 28, 2008 11:23 AM, J.J. Merrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 yeah you should never become a landlord by default.

 Good call on the renting. No shame in cutting your losses and
 starting
 over. Next time get a 15 year FIXED! :-)

 -J.J.

 On 1/28/08, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  at $2500 a month, i couldnt begin to think of renting it.
  it would get trashed in months, id have to take care of it
  and, well, you know people.  they are dirty, they smell
  they have bad habits, they fnck sh!it up, and im not down with it.
 
  its just not a poss.  the house is nearly brand new... here is the
 mls
  listing for my house...
 
  http://www.dpol.com/public/Report_custAllphotos.asp?ml=438889
 
  and the lady who owns my New/old house :) is the owner of a local
  huge amusement park in Ocean City.  its just a house she doesnt
  want to get rid of but rents it out to YUPPIES ... which fits us
perfectly.
  not to mention its all hardwood therefore we cannot possibly eff
 it up
  with dogs and stuff... just perfect.
 
  o and we have a front porch :) i cant wait for summertime and
  storms and late evening breezes... they are soo awesome around
 here.
 
  and we have a 2nd floor sunroom :) sooo cool, and perfect for a
hammock!
 
  later
 
  On Jan 28, 2008 10:29 AM, Cameron Childress [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
   Tony wrote:
its totally a victim... they SHOULDA NEVER given me that loan
 for
that place.
never.
  
   Interesting that you are renting a house now.  Alot of people
 who
are
   upside-down in their home loans are attempting to rent them out
 to
   people to make the payments and hopefully wait out the market
 dip.
 It
   would be ironic if you were renting from someone in that
 situation.
  
   -Cameron
  
  
 
 


   
   
  
  
 
 



 

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Re: our new house (pics)

2008-01-28 Thread J.J. Merrick
If they foreclose they will come after the difference from the
auction. I would rather owe 25% in taxes on an amount I can control
then 100% in whatever they get in an auction.


J.J.

On 1/28/08, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 But, on a short sale, you would owe taxes on the difference.

 -Original Message-
 From: J.J. Merrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 9:13 AM
 To: CF-Community
 Subject: Re: our new house (pics)

 Yeah the last thing they want is another house to have to sell.

 Short Sell without recourse would be your best bet...


 J.J.

 On 1/28/08, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  well, ive been OTP with Countrwide a lot.
 
  we started this process a few months ago. and they've told me this.
 
  we will not foreclose on you  instead they will do the following in
 order
  and it was good that i started the dialog a while ago...
 
  1. list it, try to sell it (i started this back in Nov.)
  2. short sell (basically agree on a lesser price and if i can find a buyer
  who will buy it for that they will take that and say goodbye) and thanks
  to the one thing Shrub has done, his new fix for the mrtg crisis one of
 the
  stipulations said that the difference is no longer (for like 3 more years)
  shown as income... as it used to be that the diff in a short sell and
 actual
  loan value was shown as income :( bad bad bad.
  3. if no sell, we will do a deed in lieu of foreclosure (kinda like a
  foreclosure
  but not, really, not as bad on credit as fc)
 
  but they said i have months before that even starts, and they havent even
  started that. in fact im still in their Workout Process which bought me
 even
  more time.  fc takes a LOAD of money, and time, and they'd rather just
 transfer
  the deed than do a FC.
 
  tw
 
  On 1/28/08, Crow T. Robot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   So...are you letting the house just lapse into bankruptcy?  Wondering
 how
   you are able to not pay off a mortgage...
  
   On Jan 28, 2008 10:30 AM, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
NO DOUBT.
   
we are saving 1500 each month by not paying that damn mortgage
cutting our losses, renting and doing our thing starting over...
   
and no bad juju in the house!!!
   
:) big ups
   
On Jan 28, 2008 11:23 AM, J.J. Merrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 yeah you should never become a landlord by default.

 Good call on the renting. No shame in cutting your losses and
 starting
 over. Next time get a 15 year FIXED! :-)

 -J.J.

 On 1/28/08, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  at $2500 a month, i couldnt begin to think of renting it.
  it would get trashed in months, id have to take care of it
  and, well, you know people.  they are dirty, they smell
  they have bad habits, they fnck sh!it up, and im not down with it.
 
  its just not a poss.  the house is nearly brand new... here is the
 mls
  listing for my house...
 
  http://www.dpol.com/public/Report_custAllphotos.asp?ml=438889
 
  and the lady who owns my New/old house :) is the owner of a local
  huge amusement park in Ocean City.  its just a house she doesnt
  want to get rid of but rents it out to YUPPIES ... which fits us
perfectly.
  not to mention its all hardwood therefore we cannot possibly eff
 it up
  with dogs and stuff... just perfect.
 
  o and we have a front porch :) i cant wait for summertime and
  storms and late evening breezes... they are soo awesome around
 here.
 
  and we have a 2nd floor sunroom :) sooo cool, and perfect for a
hammock!
 
  later
 
  On Jan 28, 2008 10:29 AM, Cameron Childress [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
   Tony wrote:
its totally a victim... they SHOULDA NEVER given me that loan
 for
that place.
never.
  
   Interesting that you are renting a house now.  Alot of people
 who
are
   upside-down in their home loans are attempting to rent them out
 to
   people to make the payments and hopefully wait out the market
 dip.
 It
   would be ironic if you were renting from someone in that
 situation.
  
   -Cameron
  
  
 
 


   
   
  
  
 
 



 

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Re: our new house (pics)

2008-01-28 Thread Crow T. Robot
ahhh, I see.

nice to know they're willing to work on it with you.

On Jan 28, 2008 10:44 AM, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 well, ive been OTP with Countrwide a lot.

 we started this process a few months ago. and they've told me this.

 we will not foreclose on you  instead they will do the following in
 order
 and it was good that i started the dialog a while ago...

 1. list it, try to sell it (i started this back in Nov.)
 2. short sell (basically agree on a lesser price and if i can find a buyer
 who will buy it for that they will take that and say goodbye) and thanks
 to the one thing Shrub has done, his new fix for the mrtg crisis one of
 the
 stipulations said that the difference is no longer (for like 3 more years)
 shown as income... as it used to be that the diff in a short sell and
 actual
 loan value was shown as income :( bad bad bad.
 3. if no sell, we will do a deed in lieu of foreclosure (kinda like a
 foreclosure
 but not, really, not as bad on credit as fc)

 but they said i have months before that even starts, and they havent even
 started that. in fact im still in their Workout Process which bought me
 even
 more time.  fc takes a LOAD of money, and time, and they'd rather just
 transfer
 the deed than do a FC.

 tw

 On 1/28/08, Crow T. Robot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  So...are you letting the house just lapse into bankruptcy?  Wondering
 how
  you are able to not pay off a mortgage...
 
  On Jan 28, 2008 10:30 AM, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   NO DOUBT.
  
   we are saving 1500 each month by not paying that damn mortgage
   cutting our losses, renting and doing our thing starting over...
  
   and no bad juju in the house!!!
  
   :) big ups
  
   On Jan 28, 2008 11:23 AM, J.J. Merrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
yeah you should never become a landlord by default.
   
Good call on the renting. No shame in cutting your losses and
 starting
over. Next time get a 15 year FIXED! :-)
   
-J.J.
   
On 1/28/08, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 at $2500 a month, i couldnt begin to think of renting it.
 it would get trashed in months, id have to take care of it
 and, well, you know people.  they are dirty, they smell
 they have bad habits, they fnck sh!it up, and im not down with it.

 its just not a poss.  the house is nearly brand new... here is the
 mls
 listing for my house...

 http://www.dpol.com/public/Report_custAllphotos.asp?ml=438889

 and the lady who owns my New/old house :) is the owner of a local
 huge amusement park in Ocean City.  its just a house she doesnt
 want to get rid of but rents it out to YUPPIES ... which fits us
   perfectly.
 not to mention its all hardwood therefore we cannot possibly eff
 it up
 with dogs and stuff... just perfect.

 o and we have a front porch :) i cant wait for summertime and
 storms and late evening breezes... they are soo awesome around
 here.

 and we have a 2nd floor sunroom :) sooo cool, and perfect for a
   hammock!

 later

 On Jan 28, 2008 10:29 AM, Cameron Childress [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
  Tony wrote:
   its totally a victim... they SHOULDA NEVER given me that loan
 for
   that place.
   never.
 
  Interesting that you are renting a house now.  Alot of people
 who
   are
  upside-down in their home loans are attempting to rent them out
 to
  people to make the payments and hopefully wait out the market
 dip.
It
  would be ironic if you were renting from someone in that
 situation.
 
  -Cameron
 
 


   
   
  
  
 
 

 

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Re: our new house (pics)

2008-01-28 Thread Erika L. Walker
Ahhh. Was wonderinng if it was a victim of the current housing market.

Definitely understand the bad mojo too. It's always good to have a place the
two of you picked out, looked for, made your own, etc.

Look forward to more picks. 1915! Wow. If those walls could talk :)


On 1/28/08, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 circa. 1915.

 the old house is a long story.
 basically.




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Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll

2008-01-28 Thread Cameron Childress
If you are an individual I would expect that you'd always be paying 
retail regardless of your intent.  As a business, you would be 
responsible for collecting sales tax on retail goods you sell (the 4 you 
sold).  As a business you are NOT required to pay retail tax on 
business-to-business purchases for things you will be using as a 
business.  This means if that's a company car, you aren't going to pay 
the retail tax on it.  This is similar to buying a company car today in 
that you don't pay personal income tax on the company car.

Now if you are buying the 5th car as a business and using for your own 
personal use then that's an issue and would probably be caught in retail 
tax audits.

-Cameron

Billy Cox wrote:
 The line between wholesale and retail purchasing is blurry at times. If I
 buy five Corvettes for resale, who is going to care whether one of them ends
 up in the garage at my home long after the other Corvettes are sold?




 -Original Message-
 From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 7:35 AM
 To: CF-Community
 Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll


 From:  http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer?pagename=about_faq_answers#1

 The FairTax is a single-rate, federal retail sales tax collected only 
 once, at the final point of purchase of new goods and services for 
 personal consumption. Used items are not taxed. Business-to-business 
 purchases for the production of goods and services are not taxed. A 
 rebate makes the effective rate progressive.

 -Cameron

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Re: thunderbird arrrrgggghhhh

2008-01-28 Thread Erika L. Walker
Ah. Well, who uses Thunderbird here? Critter? 

On 1/28/08, Loathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 HELP!!




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Re: Did a 5 hour tour of my daughters' school Saturday.

2008-01-28 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
not necessarily..If she's not doing anything to try to improve the
situation, true, but if she is and just thinks it's not at the level
for her daughter yet, then no.



On Jan 28, 2008 12:35 PM, Jerry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Kind of amazing she would keep taking a paycheck, isn't it?

 (btw, principal)


 On Jan 28, 2008 1:30 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  There was a principle of a local elementary school there trying to
  decide if she wanted to start her daughter there.  She was explaining
  to us that the public school teachers were well aware of the
  Montessori methods and would love to implement them, but were not
  allowed the time to implement them.
 
  To me, it's a pretty powerful statement when you're the principle of a
  school and you don't even want your own daughter going to it.
 
 
 
  On Jan 28, 2008 12:19 PM, Shawna Hampton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   As a former teacher, I've always been in awe of the Montessori method and
   its outstanding results ... I wish, wish, wish we'd been taught how to
   implement even minor Montessori methods in our education classes (it was
   kind of treated like a dirty word) ... instead we were drilled more on how
   to proctor standardized tests ... **sigh** and some people wonder why I'm
   not a teacher anymore
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 11:19 AM
   To: CF-Community
   Subject: Did a 5 hour tour of my daughters' school Saturday.
  
   All three of my daughters go to a Montessori school.  We get things
   home from them and wonder what exactly they are or how they can do
   things like this (My 7.9 year old is doing multiplication of 3 digit
   numbers by 2 digit numbers).  So they have this thing once a year
   called Journey of Discoverycheesy name for sure, but it's a 5
   hour walkthrough of the Montessori classroom from toddler to 6th
   grade.
  
   I was amazed at the amount of stuff in the toddler and preprimary
   classrooms.  There were shelves upon shelves of works and knick
   knacks.  Everything was in it's place though.  The surprising thing
   was that it was maintained that way by the kids themselves.  At that
   level they start teaching responsibility to self and the group.  If
   you don't put something back right, the next person to use it won't
   know where to find it.  In the 1st~3rd grade class they showed us how
   they do bead math by doing problems like 156x84 and 208/13, etcall
   in a manipulative way.  It was quite amazing.  In the 4th~6th
   classroom, they showed us how to find the sq root of 1369, again with
   beads.  They showed the research projects on evolution and mankind's
   development from early man to modern man, one research project a
   month.  I forgot to mention that once they master the concept of the
   math with beads, they're taught the abstract form of doing it.  The
   theory being that once they know how something works, they can
   abstract the process out.
  
   Before it got started though, all the parents that had children
   attending were asked to relate a Montessori moment.  I had forgotten
   about this until my wife retold it
  
   My twin daughters were fighting one day and it was getting very
   heated.  My 7 year old ran out of the room and came back a few seconds
   later carrying two teddy bears of hers.  My wife was listening to what
   was going on just outside the door.  My 7yo handed a bear to each
   sister and told them, These are your peace bears to keep forever.
   Whenever you and sister fight, you need to get your peace bear and hug
   it as hard as you can instead of hitting or pinching your sister.  The
   more angry you are, the harder you need to hug it.  This way nobody
   gets hurt and if you hug it hard enough, you'll feel better  My wife
   was pretty impressed with this and later she thanked our 7yo for
   thinking of this idea.  My wife noticed that the girls got very
   different size bears, one being about 12 inches tall and the other
   being about 2.5 feet tall.  She asked my 7yo why she gave one sister
   such a big bear and she replied, Because I know she's got a lot more
   anger inside of her
  
   That was definitely the conflict management classes working there :)
  
  
  
   --
   We were freedom
   From the moment that we hit the ground
   And the wild man
   He laid the thunder down
  
  
  
  
 
 

 

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Re: I'm not the only one not seeing text from Loathe, right.....

2008-01-28 Thread Bruce Sorge
He is having T-bird issues.

Bruce

-- 
Throttle Jockey - 
Why golf courses should be motocross tracks


Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
 Just checking, since Loathe seems to be very loquacious today

   


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Teaching - (was: Did a 5 hour tour of my daughters' school Saturday.)

2008-01-28 Thread Shawna Hampton
Well, I taught high school English so I saw at least some of the same kids
from year to year. It was bittersweet to see some of them graduate,
absolutely. You do get attached. I loved my Creative Writing students, for
example, because they were usually very bright, wanted to be there, and I
could pull out some of my more creative/off-the-wall teaching strategies
(if I'm really honest, though, for most I couldn't wait to see the back of
their heads). Mostly the turnover I saw more as an out-with-the-old fresh
start -- another chance to get it right (if I ever did).

Also, I had several sections of the same age/class (i.e., freshman English
-- I had three different classes of these students in one day). Each class
responded to the material in a different way, so even though I was teaching
the same thing, I had to approach it in a different way for each group of
students, especially since they were mostly grouped by ability (low English
skills, moderate, high, etc.). All kids, all years, responded to the
material differently. You just have to figure out how they'll take to it and
tailor your method appropriately.

But, yes, the thought of Oh, boy, April is next month when I have to teach
Romeo and Juliet AGAIN was a factor. I tried to find new ways of teaching
the same stuff, just so it wouldn't be such a drag for me.

I didn't teach for very long ... a few years.

-Original Message-
From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 12:25 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Did a 5 hour tour of my daughters' school Saturday.

How did it feel as a teacher when you had a favorite class, or
studentsand they left?
I mean...they're going to leave.

Is it like working in an office as the boss, and every year your
entire staff changes?

And the material...how did it feel teaching the same things year after year?

Does the fact that you're teaching it to different students make up for
that?

On Jan 28, 2008 2:19 PM, Shawna Hampton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 As a former teacher, I've always been in awe of the Montessori method and
 its outstanding results ... I wish, wish, wish we'd been taught how to
 implement even minor Montessori methods in our education classes (it was
 kind of treated like a dirty word) ... instead we were drilled more on how
 to proctor standardized tests ... **sigh** and some people wonder why I'm
 not a teacher anymore



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Re: our new house (pics)

2008-01-28 Thread Loathe
Ben Doom wrote:
 High Point (just barely outside G'Boro).  I spend my Saturdays gaming 
 with friends in Raliegh.  Near Falls of Neuse and Millbrook.

 --BenD

 Scott Stewart wrote:
   
 He's in Salisbury, MD.

 I'm in Raleigh, what part of NC are you in.


 


 

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Re: our new house (pics)

2008-01-28 Thread Loathe
Tony wrote:
 well, ive been OTP with Countrwide a lot.

 we started this process a few months ago. and they've told me this.

 we will not foreclose on you  instead they will do the following in order
 and it was good that i started the dialog a while ago...

 1. list it, try to sell it (i started this back in Nov.)
 2. short sell (basically agree on a lesser price and if i can find a buyer
 who will buy it for that they will take that and say goodbye) and thanks
 to the one thing Shrub has done, his new fix for the mrtg crisis one of the
 stipulations said that the difference is no longer (for like 3 more years)
 shown as income... as it used to be that the diff in a short sell and actual
 loan value was shown as income :( bad bad bad.
 3. if no sell, we will do a deed in lieu of foreclosure (kinda like a
 foreclosure
 but not, really, not as bad on credit as fc)

 but they said i have months before that even starts, and they havent even
 started that. in fact im still in their Workout Process which bought me even
 more time.  fc takes a LOAD of money, and time, and they'd rather just 
 transfer
 the deed than do a FC.

 tw

 On 1/28/08, Crow T. Robot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 So...are you letting the house just lapse into bankruptcy?  Wondering how
 you are able to not pay off a mortgage...

 On Jan 28, 2008 10:30 AM, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 NO DOUBT.

 we are saving 1500 each month by not paying that damn mortgage
 cutting our losses, renting and doing our thing starting over...

 and no bad juju in the house!!!

 :) big ups

 On Jan 28, 2008 11:23 AM, J.J. Merrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 yeah you should never become a landlord by default.

 Good call on the renting. No shame in cutting your losses and starting
 over. Next time get a 15 year FIXED! :-)

 -J.J.

 On 1/28/08, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 at $2500 a month, i couldnt begin to think of renting it.
 it would get trashed in months, id have to take care of it
 and, well, you know people.  they are dirty, they smell
 they have bad habits, they fnck sh!it up, and im not down with it.

 its just not a poss.  the house is nearly brand new... here is the mls
 listing for my house...

 http://www.dpol.com/public/Report_custAllphotos.asp?ml=438889

 and the lady who owns my New/old house :) is the owner of a local
 huge amusement park in Ocean City.  its just a house she doesnt
 want to get rid of but rents it out to YUPPIES ... which fits us
   
 perfectly.
   
 not to mention its all hardwood therefore we cannot possibly eff it up
 with dogs and stuff... just perfect.

 o and we have a front porch :) i cant wait for summertime and
 storms and late evening breezes... they are soo awesome around here.

 and we have a 2nd floor sunroom :) sooo cool, and perfect for a
   
 hammock!
   
 later

 On Jan 28, 2008 10:29 AM, Cameron Childress [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
 wrote:
   
 Tony wrote:
 
 its totally a victim... they SHOULDA NEVER given me that loan for
   
 that place.
   
 never.
   
 Interesting that you are renting a house now.  Alot of people who
 
 are
   
 upside-down in their home loans are attempting to rent them out to
 people to make the payments and hopefully wait out the market dip.
 
  It
   
 would be ironic if you were renting from someone in that situation.

 -Cameron


 
   
 
   
 

 

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Re: Did a 5 hour tour of my daughters' school Saturday.

2008-01-28 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
There was a principle of a local elementary school there trying to
decide if she wanted to start her daughter there.  She was explaining
to us that the public school teachers were well aware of the
Montessori methods and would love to implement them, but were not
allowed the time to implement them.

To me, it's a pretty powerful statement when you're the principle of a
school and you don't even want your own daughter going to it.



On Jan 28, 2008 12:19 PM, Shawna Hampton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As a former teacher, I've always been in awe of the Montessori method and
 its outstanding results ... I wish, wish, wish we'd been taught how to
 implement even minor Montessori methods in our education classes (it was
 kind of treated like a dirty word) ... instead we were drilled more on how
 to proctor standardized tests ... **sigh** and some people wonder why I'm
 not a teacher anymore


 -Original Message-
 From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 11:19 AM
 To: CF-Community
 Subject: Did a 5 hour tour of my daughters' school Saturday.

 All three of my daughters go to a Montessori school.  We get things
 home from them and wonder what exactly they are or how they can do
 things like this (My 7.9 year old is doing multiplication of 3 digit
 numbers by 2 digit numbers).  So they have this thing once a year
 called Journey of Discoverycheesy name for sure, but it's a 5
 hour walkthrough of the Montessori classroom from toddler to 6th
 grade.

 I was amazed at the amount of stuff in the toddler and preprimary
 classrooms.  There were shelves upon shelves of works and knick
 knacks.  Everything was in it's place though.  The surprising thing
 was that it was maintained that way by the kids themselves.  At that
 level they start teaching responsibility to self and the group.  If
 you don't put something back right, the next person to use it won't
 know where to find it.  In the 1st~3rd grade class they showed us how
 they do bead math by doing problems like 156x84 and 208/13, etcall
 in a manipulative way.  It was quite amazing.  In the 4th~6th
 classroom, they showed us how to find the sq root of 1369, again with
 beads.  They showed the research projects on evolution and mankind's
 development from early man to modern man, one research project a
 month.  I forgot to mention that once they master the concept of the
 math with beads, they're taught the abstract form of doing it.  The
 theory being that once they know how something works, they can
 abstract the process out.

 Before it got started though, all the parents that had children
 attending were asked to relate a Montessori moment.  I had forgotten
 about this until my wife retold it

 My twin daughters were fighting one day and it was getting very
 heated.  My 7 year old ran out of the room and came back a few seconds
 later carrying two teddy bears of hers.  My wife was listening to what
 was going on just outside the door.  My 7yo handed a bear to each
 sister and told them, These are your peace bears to keep forever.
 Whenever you and sister fight, you need to get your peace bear and hug
 it as hard as you can instead of hitting or pinching your sister.  The
 more angry you are, the harder you need to hug it.  This way nobody
 gets hurt and if you hug it hard enough, you'll feel better  My wife
 was pretty impressed with this and later she thanked our 7yo for
 thinking of this idea.  My wife noticed that the girls got very
 different size bears, one being about 12 inches tall and the other
 being about 2.5 feet tall.  She asked my 7yo why she gave one sister
 such a big bear and she replied, Because I know she's got a lot more
 anger inside of her

 That was definitely the conflict management classes working there :)



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Re: our new house (pics)

2008-01-28 Thread Loathe
Erika L. Walker wrote:
 Ahhh. Was wonderinng if it was a victim of the current housing market.

 Definitely understand the bad mojo too. It's always good to have a place the
 two of you picked out, looked for, made your own, etc.

 Look forward to more picks. 1915! Wow. If those walls could talk :)


 On 1/28/08, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 circa. 1915.

 the old house is a long story.
 basically.


 


 

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Re: terror plots foiled across Europe

2008-01-28 Thread Loathe
Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
 I wasn't making any judgement on it.  My original response was to
 Robert's comment about pulling out early and them still getting
 attacked, not whether they should have gone in or not, but more that
 wouldn't have become non-targets just because they pulled out early.


 But, if you want my opinion about Iraq, I don't think any of us should
 have gone in there the way we did.



 On Jan 28, 2008 8:13 AM, G Money [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 I'm sorry, I didn't mean to make a rash assumption.

 You were in favor of Spain's foray into Iraq?

 On Jan 28, 2008 8:02 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 
 wow!  you guys have really good imaginations!  Next I'll scan an image
 of my palm and you can tell me what it infers about the current
 situations of the Inuits.

   
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Re: terror plots foiled across Europe

2008-01-28 Thread Loathe
G Money wrote:
 On Jan 27, 2008 9:53 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

   
 If you put your hand in a hornet's nest, do you deserve to be stung?
 Would you expect to be stung?  Two different questions there.  Mine
 was the 2nd.


 
 Interesting analogy. You seem to advocate leaving the hornet's nest alone
 entirely.let someone else deal with itlet the hornets sting someone
 else's kids.

   
word, good one,

I use a hose on them personally, or gas and a match.

So nukes then?

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RE: Did a 5 hour tour of my daughters' school Saturday.

2008-01-28 Thread Shawna Hampton
As a former teacher, I've always been in awe of the Montessori method and
its outstanding results ... I wish, wish, wish we'd been taught how to
implement even minor Montessori methods in our education classes (it was
kind of treated like a dirty word) ... instead we were drilled more on how
to proctor standardized tests ... **sigh** and some people wonder why I'm
not a teacher anymore

-Original Message-
From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 11:19 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Did a 5 hour tour of my daughters' school Saturday.

All three of my daughters go to a Montessori school.  We get things
home from them and wonder what exactly they are or how they can do
things like this (My 7.9 year old is doing multiplication of 3 digit
numbers by 2 digit numbers).  So they have this thing once a year
called Journey of Discoverycheesy name for sure, but it's a 5
hour walkthrough of the Montessori classroom from toddler to 6th
grade.

I was amazed at the amount of stuff in the toddler and preprimary
classrooms.  There were shelves upon shelves of works and knick
knacks.  Everything was in it's place though.  The surprising thing
was that it was maintained that way by the kids themselves.  At that
level they start teaching responsibility to self and the group.  If
you don't put something back right, the next person to use it won't
know where to find it.  In the 1st~3rd grade class they showed us how
they do bead math by doing problems like 156x84 and 208/13, etcall
in a manipulative way.  It was quite amazing.  In the 4th~6th
classroom, they showed us how to find the sq root of 1369, again with
beads.  They showed the research projects on evolution and mankind's
development from early man to modern man, one research project a
month.  I forgot to mention that once they master the concept of the
math with beads, they're taught the abstract form of doing it.  The
theory being that once they know how something works, they can
abstract the process out.

Before it got started though, all the parents that had children
attending were asked to relate a Montessori moment.  I had forgotten
about this until my wife retold it

My twin daughters were fighting one day and it was getting very
heated.  My 7 year old ran out of the room and came back a few seconds
later carrying two teddy bears of hers.  My wife was listening to what
was going on just outside the door.  My 7yo handed a bear to each
sister and told them, These are your peace bears to keep forever.
Whenever you and sister fight, you need to get your peace bear and hug
it as hard as you can instead of hitting or pinching your sister.  The
more angry you are, the harder you need to hug it.  This way nobody
gets hurt and if you hug it hard enough, you'll feel better  My wife
was pretty impressed with this and later she thanked our 7yo for
thinking of this idea.  My wife noticed that the girls got very
different size bears, one being about 12 inches tall and the other
being about 2.5 feet tall.  She asked my 7yo why she gave one sister
such a big bear and she replied, Because I know she's got a lot more
anger inside of her

That was definitely the conflict management classes working there :)



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From the moment that we hit the ground
And the wild man
He laid the thunder down



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Re: our new house (pics)

2008-01-28 Thread Tony
:) zackly.

On 1/28/08, J.J. Merrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 oh wait... H.R. 3648 said that the shortsell difference isn't income
 therefore not taxed.

 J.J.

 On 1/28/08, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  But, on a short sale, you would owe taxes on the difference.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: J.J. Merrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 9:13 AM
  To: CF-Community
  Subject: Re: our new house (pics)
 
  Yeah the last thing they want is another house to have to sell.
 
  Short Sell without recourse would be your best bet...
 
 
  J.J.
 
  On 1/28/08, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   well, ive been OTP with Countrwide a lot.
  
   we started this process a few months ago. and they've told me this.
  
   we will not foreclose on you  instead they will do the following in
  order
   and it was good that i started the dialog a while ago...
  
   1. list it, try to sell it (i started this back in Nov.)
   2. short sell (basically agree on a lesser price and if i can find a buyer
   who will buy it for that they will take that and say goodbye) and thanks
   to the one thing Shrub has done, his new fix for the mrtg crisis one of
  the
   stipulations said that the difference is no longer (for like 3 more years)
   shown as income... as it used to be that the diff in a short sell and
  actual
   loan value was shown as income :( bad bad bad.
   3. if no sell, we will do a deed in lieu of foreclosure (kinda like a
   foreclosure
   but not, really, not as bad on credit as fc)
  
   but they said i have months before that even starts, and they havent even
   started that. in fact im still in their Workout Process which bought me
  even
   more time.  fc takes a LOAD of money, and time, and they'd rather just
  transfer
   the deed than do a FC.
  
   tw
  
   On 1/28/08, Crow T. Robot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So...are you letting the house just lapse into bankruptcy?  Wondering
  how
you are able to not pay off a mortgage...
   
On Jan 28, 2008 10:30 AM, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 NO DOUBT.

 we are saving 1500 each month by not paying that damn mortgage
 cutting our losses, renting and doing our thing starting over...

 and no bad juju in the house!!!

 :) big ups

 On Jan 28, 2008 11:23 AM, J.J. Merrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  yeah you should never become a landlord by default.
 
  Good call on the renting. No shame in cutting your losses and
  starting
  over. Next time get a 15 year FIXED! :-)
 
  -J.J.
 
  On 1/28/08, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   at $2500 a month, i couldnt begin to think of renting it.
   it would get trashed in months, id have to take care of it
   and, well, you know people.  they are dirty, they smell
   they have bad habits, they fnck sh!it up, and im not down with it.
  
   its just not a poss.  the house is nearly brand new... here is the
  mls
   listing for my house...
  
   http://www.dpol.com/public/Report_custAllphotos.asp?ml=438889
  
   and the lady who owns my New/old house :) is the owner of a local
   huge amusement park in Ocean City.  its just a house she doesnt
   want to get rid of but rents it out to YUPPIES ... which fits us
 perfectly.
   not to mention its all hardwood therefore we cannot possibly eff
  it up
   with dogs and stuff... just perfect.
  
   o and we have a front porch :) i cant wait for summertime and
   storms and late evening breezes... they are soo awesome around
  here.
  
   and we have a 2nd floor sunroom :) sooo cool, and perfect for a
 hammock!
  
   later
  
   On Jan 28, 2008 10:29 AM, Cameron Childress [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
Tony wrote:
 its totally a victim... they SHOULDA NEVER given me that loan
  for
 that place.
 never.
   
Interesting that you are renting a house now.  Alot of people
  who
 are
upside-down in their home loans are attempting to rent them out
  to
people to make the payments and hopefully wait out the market
  dip.
  It
would be ironic if you were renting from someone in that
  situation.
   
-Cameron
   
   
  
  
 
 


   
   
  
  
 
 
 
 

 

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Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll

2008-01-28 Thread Gruss Gott
 Cam wrote:
 Ahh - Then I need to re-read the book.  I just pulled it off my
 bookshelf and dusted it off this morning.


I'm too lazy to read the book because nobody that favors this can ever
seem to answer the simple questions.  Cam said this:

once, at the final point of purchase of new goods and services for
personal consumption. Used items are not taxed. Business-to-business
purchases for the production of goods and services are not taxed.

Which leads me to ask the same questions: what is new?  what is used?
what is final point of purchase?

For example, what stops me from starting my own online TV sales
business and buying wholesale, thus avoiding the tax?  Oh, and I'd
like a new car so now I sell cars too.

Oh, and you say you're too lazy to set up an online business as a tax
shelter?  No problem.  I'll buy the goods for you and only charge you
half of what the tax would've been.  Sweet new business!

So that's the problem: a zillion loopholes when it comes to defining
new, used, and business.

And if the answer to that challenge is so complex that I have to read
a book to answer it then how is it any easier than the existing tax
which I also have to read a book to understand?

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Re: terror plots foiled across Europe

2008-01-28 Thread G Money
On Jan 28, 2008 12:22 PM, Loathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 word, good one,

 I use a hose on them personally, or gas and a match.

 So nukes then?


I think that 30 foot wasp and hornet spray is the greatest thing ever
invented.i'm seriously like a kid with a new toy. A bottle typically
lasts me about 2 days in the summer

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Re: terror plots foiled across Europe

2008-01-28 Thread Loathe
Way to not read the story, or even the headline and jump to conclusions.

Dana wrote:
 wait wait wait... so you are saying that the US is a rape victim here?
 That's pretty offensive actually.

 On Jan 27, 2008 6:42 PM, Cameron Childress [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 I've seen this defense used in sexual assault cases.  Your honor she
 was dressed too provocatively in that club, what did she expect to
 happen?  She made herself a target by going there.

 Yeah, that makes it okay.

 Not.

 Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
 
 yeah, it's almost a shame they went in there in the first place and
 made themselves targets.

   
 

 

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Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll

2008-01-28 Thread William Bowen
 In the spirit of the TV show, Are you smarter than a 5th grader?, I would
 like to see the show, Are you smarter than a presidential candidate? Such
 a show could have stopped the George W. Bush presidential campaign in its
 tracks eight years ago.

No it wouldn't have.

Not when pollsters are doing who'd you rather have a beer with? type
polls and the American public is eating them up as meaningful.



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will

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I'm not the only one not seeing text from Loathe, right.....

2008-01-28 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
Just checking, since Loathe seems to be very loquacious today

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Re: Did a 5 hour tour of my daughters' school Saturday.

2008-01-28 Thread Deanna Schneider
My son goes to Montessori. He's really shined there, and I see a lot
of it come home with him. We'd love to be able to afford to continue
Montessori, but at $800/month for kindergarten, I don't think that's
happening. *sigh*

On Jan 28, 2008 11:19 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox  wrote:
 All three of my daughters go to a Montessori school.  We get things
 home from them and wonder what exactly they are or how they can do
 things like this (My 7.9 year old is doing multiplication of 3 digit
 numbers by 2 digit numbers).  So they have this thing once a year
 called Journey of Discoverycheesy name for sure, but it's a 5
 hour walkthrough of the Montessori classroom from toddler to 6th
 grade.



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Re: terror plots foiled across Europe

2008-01-28 Thread Loathe
Michael Dinowitz wrote:
 There have been a number of terror plots discovered and prevented in
 Germany. Far more than Spain. I think the plots discovered in France are
 less than Spain, but they have their riots of 'youths'.

 On Jan 28, 2008 12:49 PM, Loathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 France and Germany?

 Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
 
 yeah, it's almost a shame they went in there in the first place and
 made themselves targets.


 On Jan 27, 2008 6:08 PM, Robert Munn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 Has anyone been following this story?


 
 http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/01/27/spain.europe.terror.plot/index.html
 
 Good thing the Spanish got out of Iraq so they wouldn't be targets for
 terrorist plots.




 
   
 

 

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Re: Did a 5 hour tour of my daughters' school Saturday.

2008-01-28 Thread Erika L. Walker
Some good info for perhaps some extracurricular activities for you guys
that cant afford Montessori ... maybe you can utilize what they do teach on
your own ...

http://www.montessori.edu/homeschooling.html


On 1/28/08, Deanna Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My son goes to Montessori. He's really shined there, and I see a lot
 of it come home with him. We'd love to be able to afford to continue
 Montessori, but at $800/month for kindergarten, I don't think that's
 happening. *sigh*



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RE: CF-Community Presidential Poll

2008-01-28 Thread Adam Churvis
That 23% is a replacement of the current federal taxation system.  Your
state would still levy sales taxes of its own, certainly.  It's just that
the mechanism would be a consistent one.

And the *state* income tax you pay wouldn't change, either -- why would it?
Remember: this is just the *federal* system we're talking about.

Respectfully,

Adam Phillip Churvis 
President
Productivity Enhancement


 -Original Message-
 From: William Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 3:39 PM
 To: CF-Community
 Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll
 
  I'm too lazy to read the book because nobody that favors this can
 ever
  seem to answer the simple questions.  Cam said this:
 
 Anyone have any concerns regarding where the States are going to get
 their revenue? And what that'll add on top of the Federal fair tax?
 
 I keep seeing 23% Federal or 30% federal. Near as I can tell, the
 federal legislation does nothing about State income or Sales taxes.
 
 while I don't currently pay income tax n Washington State, I do pay
 8.9% which is considerable if one tacks *that* on top of a 23% or 30%
 or whatever federal fair tax.
 
 
 
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RE: CF-Community Presidential Poll

2008-01-28 Thread Adam Churvis
There are no worrisome loopholes.  You just don't understand how retail
businesses work with sales and use taxes.

As I had mentioned earlier, if a wholesaler buys a product and doesn't
resell it, but instead makes use of it themselves, the tax is still due, but
it's referred to as a Use Tax rather than a Sales Tax because you used
it directly rather than sell it to another person.  You are in that case the
end user, so the tax is due; it's just categorized differently.

And if you look at a sales and use tax exemption certificate, you'll see
that there are a discrete number of categories that define what is what with
respect to what is taxed.  There are also checks and balances performed by
the revenue departments that are quite good at spotting patterns of fraud
between wholesale purchases and retail sales disparities.  

A business has a valid business license, and a sales and use tax exemption
certificate, so that's pretty clear.

A new item has not been previously sold at retail, but can be sold and
resold as many times as necessary at the wholesale level, and that's pretty
universal.

A used item isn't a new item under the above definition, so that's pretty
straightforward.

I hope this helps.  Now go and read the book.

Respectfully,

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President
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 -Original Message-
 From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 2:49 PM
 To: CF-Community
 Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll
 
  Cam wrote:
  Ahh - Then I need to re-read the book.  I just pulled it off my
  bookshelf and dusted it off this morning.
 
 
 I'm too lazy to read the book because nobody that favors this can ever
 seem to answer the simple questions.  Cam said this:
 
 once, at the final point of purchase of new goods and services for
 personal consumption. Used items are not taxed. Business-to-business
 purchases for the production of goods and services are not taxed.
 
 Which leads me to ask the same questions: what is new?  what is used?
 what is final point of purchase?
 
 For example, what stops me from starting my own online TV sales
 business and buying wholesale, thus avoiding the tax?  Oh, and I'd
 like a new car so now I sell cars too.
 
 Oh, and you say you're too lazy to set up an online business as a tax
 shelter?  No problem.  I'll buy the goods for you and only charge you
 half of what the tax would've been.  Sweet new business!
 
 So that's the problem: a zillion loopholes when it comes to defining
 new, used, and business.
 
 And if the answer to that challenge is so complex that I have to read
 a book to answer it then how is it any easier than the existing tax
 which I also have to read a book to understand?
 
 

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Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll

2008-01-28 Thread William Bowen
 I'm too lazy to read the book because nobody that favors this can ever
 seem to answer the simple questions.  Cam said this:

Anyone have any concerns regarding where the States are going to get
their revenue? And what that'll add on top of the Federal fair tax?

I keep seeing 23% Federal or 30% federal. Near as I can tell, the
federal legislation does nothing about State income or Sales taxes.

while I don't currently pay income tax n Washington State, I do pay
8.9% which is considerable if one tacks *that* on top of a 23% or 30%
or whatever federal fair tax.



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Re: decimal time to hours:minutes:seconds

2008-01-28 Thread Tony
never mind, i figured it out :)

multiply it all by 60, and remove the extraneous and round around a bit

thanks anyway

On Jan 28, 2008 3:32 PM, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 anyone know of a udf or something elegant that i can use
 so that i dont have to kludge it?

 so, for instance i have 16.15 and i want to turn that into time...

 not 4:15pm, not 16 minutes and 15 seconds.
 but 16 minutes 9 seconds or whatever it is...

 thanks in advance.
 tw

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Re: terror plots foiled across Europe

2008-01-28 Thread Gruss Gott
 gMoney wrote:
 I think that 30 foot wasp and hornet spray

You mean gasoline?  Yeah that stuff is awesome!

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1845064amp;page=1all

(old?  Yes.  but fully awesome?  Of course.)

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Re: our new house (pics)

2008-01-28 Thread Tony
not any longer.  not with the new legislation for the
mortgage crisis fix that bush put up.

tw

On 1/28/08, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 But, on a short sale, you would owe taxes on the difference.

 -Original Message-
 From: J.J. Merrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 9:13 AM
 To: CF-Community
 Subject: Re: our new house (pics)

 Yeah the last thing they want is another house to have to sell.

 Short Sell without recourse would be your best bet...


 J.J.

 On 1/28/08, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  well, ive been OTP with Countrwide a lot.
 
  we started this process a few months ago. and they've told me this.
 
  we will not foreclose on you  instead they will do the following in
 order
  and it was good that i started the dialog a while ago...
 
  1. list it, try to sell it (i started this back in Nov.)
  2. short sell (basically agree on a lesser price and if i can find a buyer
  who will buy it for that they will take that and say goodbye) and thanks
  to the one thing Shrub has done, his new fix for the mrtg crisis one of
 the
  stipulations said that the difference is no longer (for like 3 more years)
  shown as income... as it used to be that the diff in a short sell and
 actual
  loan value was shown as income :( bad bad bad.
  3. if no sell, we will do a deed in lieu of foreclosure (kinda like a
  foreclosure
  but not, really, not as bad on credit as fc)
 
  but they said i have months before that even starts, and they havent even
  started that. in fact im still in their Workout Process which bought me
 even
  more time.  fc takes a LOAD of money, and time, and they'd rather just
 transfer
  the deed than do a FC.
 
  tw
 
  On 1/28/08, Crow T. Robot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   So...are you letting the house just lapse into bankruptcy?  Wondering
 how
   you are able to not pay off a mortgage...
  
   On Jan 28, 2008 10:30 AM, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
NO DOUBT.
   
we are saving 1500 each month by not paying that damn mortgage
cutting our losses, renting and doing our thing starting over...
   
and no bad juju in the house!!!
   
:) big ups
   
On Jan 28, 2008 11:23 AM, J.J. Merrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 yeah you should never become a landlord by default.

 Good call on the renting. No shame in cutting your losses and
 starting
 over. Next time get a 15 year FIXED! :-)

 -J.J.

 On 1/28/08, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  at $2500 a month, i couldnt begin to think of renting it.
  it would get trashed in months, id have to take care of it
  and, well, you know people.  they are dirty, they smell
  they have bad habits, they fnck sh!it up, and im not down with it.
 
  its just not a poss.  the house is nearly brand new... here is the
 mls
  listing for my house...
 
  http://www.dpol.com/public/Report_custAllphotos.asp?ml=438889
 
  and the lady who owns my New/old house :) is the owner of a local
  huge amusement park in Ocean City.  its just a house she doesnt
  want to get rid of but rents it out to YUPPIES ... which fits us
perfectly.
  not to mention its all hardwood therefore we cannot possibly eff
 it up
  with dogs and stuff... just perfect.
 
  o and we have a front porch :) i cant wait for summertime and
  storms and late evening breezes... they are soo awesome around
 here.
 
  and we have a 2nd floor sunroom :) sooo cool, and perfect for a
hammock!
 
  later
 
  On Jan 28, 2008 10:29 AM, Cameron Childress [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
   Tony wrote:
its totally a victim... they SHOULDA NEVER given me that loan
 for
that place.
never.
  
   Interesting that you are renting a house now.  Alot of people
 who
are
   upside-down in their home loans are attempting to rent them out
 to
   people to make the payments and hopefully wait out the market
 dip.
 It
   would be ironic if you were renting from someone in that
 situation.
  
   -Cameron
  
  
 
 


   
   
  
  
 
 



 

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decimal time to hours:minutes:seconds

2008-01-28 Thread Tony
anyone know of a udf or something elegant that i can use
so that i dont have to kludge it?

so, for instance i have 16.15 and i want to turn that into time...

not 4:15pm, not 16 minutes and 15 seconds.
but 16 minutes 9 seconds or whatever it is...

thanks in advance.
tw

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Re: thunderbird arrrrgggghhhh

2008-01-28 Thread Bruce Sorge
According to Google, yes. (*http://tinyurl.com/yoc2wc*)


I have a Palm Treo 650 and there is an extension that allows me to sync 
with it.

Bruce

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Vivec wrote:
 Can Thunderbird Sync with Smartphones? :)

 On Jan 28, 2008 4:04 PM, Bruce Sorge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   


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Re: thunderbird arrrrgggghhhh

2008-01-28 Thread Bruce Sorge
Well fortunately this and CFTalk are about the most I ever get. If I 
unsubscribed from these listst alone I would probably get only 20-30 
email's a day on average. And I delete most of the messages anyway since 
they are archived on the HOF site. I don't know how many times I have 
googled HOF for assistance on code. I think just about every subject has 
been breached on here. And when I go back into the Army, I will use 
T-Bird then too. I only get about 1-2 emails a week on my current Army 
account. But we will see.

Bruce

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Crow T. Robot wrote:
 wait till you get thousands of messages.  you'll drop back to Outlook.  :)
 T-Bird sucks at trying to manage large volumes of mail.

 That was experience after trying for a year or so.  YMMV,of course


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Re: terror plots foiled across Europe

2008-01-28 Thread Loathe
France and Germany?

Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
 yeah, it's almost a shame they went in there in the first place and
 made themselves targets.


 On Jan 27, 2008 6:08 PM, Robert Munn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Has anyone been following this story?

 http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/01/27/spain.europe.terror.plot/index.html

 Good thing the Spanish got out of Iraq so they wouldn't be targets for
 terrorist plots.



 

 

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Re: thunderbird arrrrgggghhhh

2008-01-28 Thread Crow T. Robot
wait till you get thousands of messages.  you'll drop back to Outlook.  :)
T-Bird sucks at trying to manage large volumes of mail.

That was experience after trying for a year or so.  YMMV,of course.

On Jan 28, 2008 2:04 PM, Bruce Sorge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Me. Weaned myself off of Outlook and moved to T-Bird. They have
 everything I need, and I downloaded and installed a nice calender/tasks
 module.

 Bruce

 --
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 Why golf courses should be motocross tracks


 Erika L. Walker wrote:
  Ah. Well, who uses Thunderbird here? Critter? 
 
  On 1/28/08, Loathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


 

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Re: thunderbird arrrrgggghhhh

2008-01-28 Thread Vivec
Can Thunderbird Sync with Smartphones? :)

On Jan 28, 2008 4:04 PM, Bruce Sorge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Me. Weaned myself off of Outlook and moved to T-Bird. They have
 everything I need, and I downloaded and installed a nice calender/tasks
 module.

 Bruce

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Re: thunderbird arrrrgggghhhh

2008-01-28 Thread Bruce Sorge
Me. Weaned myself off of Outlook and moved to T-Bird. They have 
everything I need, and I downloaded and installed a nice calender/tasks 
module.

Bruce

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Erika L. Walker wrote:
 Ah. Well, who uses Thunderbird here? Critter? 

 On 1/28/08, Loathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   


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Re: thunderbird arrrrgggghhhh

2008-01-28 Thread Tony
outlook

gmail

both work great.
:) tw

On Jan 28, 2008 1:45 PM, Loathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ck, so Thunderbird by default is having me write at the bottom of a
 message, but seems to be cutting my text out, also it's adding non-text
 shit in here when I respond, I just want plain text 100% of the time.


 HELP!!

 

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Re: our new house (pics)

2008-01-28 Thread Erika L. Walker
Yo. Why are all your messages being sent with no comments from you? Just
quoting the previous message? Is your replly being stripped out?

On 1/28/08, Loathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Erika L. Walker wrote:
  Ahhh. Was wonderinng if it was a victim of the current housing market.
 
  Definitely understand the bad mojo too. It's always good to have a place
 the
  two of you picked out, looked for, made your own, etc.
 
  Look forward to more picks. 1915! Wow. If those walls could talk :)
 
 
  On 1/28/08, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  circa. 1915.
 
  the old house is a long story.
  basically.
 
 
 
 
 
 



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Re: our new house (pics)

2008-01-28 Thread Tony
thanks, thats jake, a stray we took in.  we have another one, a tortoise shell
calico that is a stray we took in, ill have more pics of her soon too :)

fnck the old place basically, its beautiful and was mine, but yanno, its best
for her an i to start over... (things have ALREADY gotten better, heheh, if you
know what i mean!!!)

tw

On Jan 28, 2008 9:51 AM, Scott Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nce

 The kitten's cute too

 I totally understand about the ex-wife bad mojo.. I almost kept the the
 townhouse that my ex and I lived in... until I realzed I couldn't bring
 anyone female that I was dating back there, it was just to weird...

 --
 Scott Stewart
 ColdFusion Developer

 SSTWebworks
 4405 Oakshyre Way
 Raleigh, NC. 27616
 (919) 874-6229 (home)
 (703) 220-2835 (cell)

 -Original Message-
 From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 9:44 AM
 To: CF-Community
 Subject: Re: our new house (pics)

 circa. 1915.

 the old house is a long story.
 basically.

 1. 100% interest payment
 2. 3 yr arm
 3. current = 9%
 4. arm matures in 2010
 5. value of house in this market ~295,000
 6. vale of loan = 309000

 bad investment. bad bad bad.  house is on market
 im not making any more payments.  had to cut losses
 and roll.  new house is rental, in the heart of town, and
 we love it.  has no bad juju (exwife, etc) and is just totally
 tubular!!  we love it.  ill have some outside pics soon

 tw

 On 1/28/08, Erika L. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm confused and must of missed something somewhere - what happened to the
  old house? You were so excited at getting it after the divorce ... I
 thought
  you loved it there?...
 
  This house looks like it'sa fantastic though! Wouldn't mind seeinng an
  outside pic of it. How old is it? Seems to have lovely wood floors and
  moldings, etc.
 
 
  On 1/28/08, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   finally i took some interior shots...
   more to come, here are a few...
  
   http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyweeg
  
   -
 
 
 



 

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RE: CF-Community Presidential Poll

2008-01-28 Thread Adam Churvis
Depending on the state, you file a Department of Revenue Sales and Use Tax
Certificate of Exemption with your vendors, and you file your Sales and Use
tax forms along with your payment of taxes due.

One thing the Fair Use tax will have to do, not covered in the book IIRC, is
make collection more fluid.  Collecting 23% of retail price and holding it
for a month or a quarter in your own business account is not what the
government is going to want for you to do with its money.  Dip into it and
you're going to Leavenworth.

Respectfully,

Adam Phillip Churvis 
President
Productivity Enhancement

 -Original Message-
 From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 11:07 AM
 To: CF-Community
 Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll
 
 Adam Churvis wrote:
  I don't remember if they cover this in the book; I'm just going from
 the
  current definitions of things as they stand now.
 
  The reason why I applied it to a Fair Tax scenario is because the
 need for
  such classification and corresponding collection of that class of
 taxes
  would obviously still exist.
 
 I've never run a retail business so I really have no idea how taxable
 retail goods are tracked.  Is it based on the COGS on your books or do
 you have to give your fed tax id when you buy from a wholesaler?  Some
 other way?
 
 -Cameron
 
 

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RE: CF-Community Presidential Poll

2008-01-28 Thread Adam Churvis
Actually, as a wholesaler you would be responsible for collecting taxes on
all five vehicles.  The taxes on the four you sold at retail would be
considered Sales Taxes, and the one you consumed yourself as a wholesaler
would be considered Use Tax. They are calculated exactly the same; the
only difference is the way they are categorized for the government.

There is a very nice mechanism built into the Fair Tax that prevents
cheating in most cases, and that's the fact that all violations are federal
offenses against a tax code, which historically have massive fines and
prison terms.  Believe me, whoever is in charge of enforcement will make
sure the money gets collected and paid to the government.

Respectfully,

Adam Phillip Churvis 
President
Productivity Enhancement

 -Original Message-
 From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 10:00 AM
 To: CF-Community
 Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll
 
 If you are an individual I would expect that you'd always be paying
 retail regardless of your intent.  As a business, you would be
 responsible for collecting sales tax on retail goods you sell (the 4
 you
 sold).  As a business you are NOT required to pay retail tax on
 business-to-business purchases for things you will be using as a
 business.  This means if that's a company car, you aren't going to pay
 the retail tax on it.  This is similar to buying a company car today in
 that you don't pay personal income tax on the company car.
 
 Now if you are buying the 5th car as a business and using for your own
 personal use then that's an issue and would probably be caught in
 retail
 tax audits.
 
 -Cameron
 
 Billy Cox wrote:
  The line between wholesale and retail purchasing is blurry at times.
 If I
  buy five Corvettes for resale, who is going to care whether one of
 them ends
  up in the garage at my home long after the other Corvettes are sold?
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 7:35 AM
  To: CF-Community
  Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll
 
 
  From:
 http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer?pagename=about_faq_answers#1
 
  The FairTax is a single-rate, federal retail sales tax collected
 only
  once, at the final point of purchase of new goods and services for
  personal consumption. Used items are not taxed. Business-to-business
  purchases for the production of goods and services are not taxed. A
  rebate makes the effective rate progressive.
 
  -Cameron
 
 

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Re: The Fairtax Book

2008-01-28 Thread Cameron Childress
Er I meant It's really not fair to argue against something you 
admit to being too lazy to attempt to understand in depth. 

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