Broadridge Financial

[Michael Dinowitz]

I'm looking at a position with Broadridge Financial out in Deer Park, NY
and was wondering if anyone here has had any experience with them? If so,
please email me off list.

Thanks
Michael


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Re: Man swept out to sea during Sunday morning baptism

[Michael Dinowitz]

Only if he was looking for a job. Wrong list. :)


On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:

>
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/03/31/man-swept-out-to-sea-during-sunday-morning-baptism/?tid=hp_mm
>
> how ironic.
>
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Re: Can I ask why this place has been taken over by Brian Thornton aka CFDeveloper

[Michael Dinowitz]

The list rules were once a week for a job but once every 3 days should
be ok. I'm going to email the various people who have been posting
daily and put something on the site about it. Eventually I'll have a
job posting form rather than allow 'free form' posts. More work but
cleaner posts.


On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Cameron Childress  wrote:
>
> If I were to make a recommendation it would be to batch the CFDeveloper
> jobs postings as a daily digest.  I also have noticed a recruiter or two
> (Lina Danes/Pramod Dubey) posting the exact same job over and over daily.
> It wouldn't suck for them to stop doing that too...
>
> -Cameron
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
>
>> These are legitimate jobs however. It appears that Brian has written
>> an app that goes through Craigslist looking for CF related jobs. That
>> would be a community service if you ask me.
>>
>> BTW jerry, lets keep this confined to cf-jobs-talk and not clutter up
>> cf-jobs.
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> larry
>
>
> ...
>
>
> 

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Re: Can I ask why this place has been taken over by Brian Thornton aka CFDeveloper

[Michael Dinowitz]

I'm going to ask Brian to send a daily summary or something like it.
The amount of generated posts are hiding the individual posts from
others.


On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Larry C. Lyons  wrote:
>
> These are legitimate jobs however. It appears that Brian has written
> an app that goes through Craigslist looking for CF related jobs. That
> would be a community service if you ask me.
>
> BTW jerry, lets keep this confined to cf-jobs-talk and not clutter up cf-jobs.
>
> regards,
>
> larry
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Jerry Albright
>  wrote:
>>
>> His non stop spam is ridiculous.  Is anyone in charge here?  Is this place 
>> simply a free-for-all? Left to the demise of someone who thinks it's helpful 
>> to soak this place with Craigslist ads?
>>
>> Wow.  This is ridiculous.
>>
>>
>
> 

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Re: CFDeveloper.com

[Michael Dinowitz]

Posting 400 jobs to the list at once is not a good idea. If you posted
new jobs as they come in then you'll get a lot of interest. A link to
the older jobs would also be ok on the posts. The focus would be on
recent jobs without overloading people's boxes.

And any NY based jobs you have, let me know. :)

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:05 PM, Brian Thornton  wrote:
>
> Rob- So we are clear there are 400+ unfilled CF jobs.
>
> I'm not a recruiter and after taking from the community mostly for the
> 14 or so years I think passing along the good ones would help many
> people looking for work.
>
> But I say to you Rob, if you don't want jobs emails, why don't you drop off?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Phillip Vector
>  wrote:
>>
>> Well.. I'm up in the air about this.. After all, it's a job list and
>> it is CF jobs..
>>
>> So.. it's useful.. kind of.. :)
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 5:59 PM, RobG  wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes.  I've blocked him on Twitter because he's doing the same crap there 
>>> too.  I'm about to setup an email filter as well.
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>  From: OSS 
>>> To: cf-jobs 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:45 PM
>>> Subject: CFDeveloper.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Is anyone else receiving these jobs 400 times each?  =(
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Beau J. Gould
>>> --
>>> Open Source Staffing
>>> http://opensourcestaffing.wordpress.com
>>> opensourcestaffing|AT|gmail.com
>>> Follow me @ossjobs - New jobs posted daily. Full time, contract and
>>> telecommute.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: cfdeveloper@cfdeveloper.com
>>> [mailto:cfdeveloper@cfdeveloper.com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 6:31 PM
>>> To: cf-jobs
>>> Subject: (JOB) Front-End Developer (Pioneer Square) Seattle,WA
>>>
>>>
>>> FROM http://www.CFDeveloper.com
>>>
>>> Please see http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/web/2876095945.html for this
>>> job posting.
>>>
>>>
>>> Our creative agency is in search of a talented web developer to assist with
>>> projects on a contract basis, with opportunities for expansion. You will
>>> work directly with an interactive producer and creative team to transform
>>> concepts into beautiful, fully-functional websites, e-mails, banners and
>>> other digital environments.  Required Skills: Expansive
>>> knowledge of current web technologies, their capabilities, and
>>> advantages/disadvantages of each Strong working knowledge of both
>>> W3C-valid (X)HTML and table-based layouts/HTML e-mails, CSS, JavaScript, and
>>> CMS integration (Drupal or Wordpress) Proficiency working in Adobe
>>> Creative Suite, preparing images for web-ready distribution Solid
>>> understanding of SEO best practices Solid understanding of social media
>>> technologies and integrating with their APIs  Preferred Skills:
>>> Knowledge of HTML5 and CSS3 Knowledge of AJAX web development
>>> Knowledge of SQL or other web database technologies Knowledge of other
>>> cross-platform server-side scripting/programming languages for web
>>> application development (PHP, Perl, Python, Ruby on Rails, Java, ColdFusion)
>>> and database integration Knowledge of other CMS packages (Joomla,
>>> ExpressionEngine) Knowledge of mobile web development (Mobile
>>> Safari/Android, Blackberry Browser) Experience with web advertising
>>> platforms such as Google AdSense, Google AdWords Skills with Adobe Flash
>>> and/or ActionScript   This is a contract-to-hire position.
>>> Applicants should submit their resume and portfolio. This position will
>>> close on March 15th, 2012.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> 

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Re: Looking for CF jobs in NYC

[Michael Dinowitz]

There is a NYCFUG meeting tonight. You might want to attend in case there's
anyone looking for people. I'm going to be there as I'm looking as well. :)

http://nycfug.com/

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 12:31 PM, ColdFusion Developer <
cfdeveloper...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Hi Everyone,
> I worked as a ColdFusion web developer for more than 6 years in NYC.
> If you have any CF job position, please send me an email :
> coldfusiondeveloper...@gmail.com.
>
> Thank you very much in advance.
> ColdFusion Developer.
>
>


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Re: other companies and developers to watch out for

[Michael Dinowitz]

Guys,

I was busy with a funeral for my young cousin and didn't come down on this
thread like I should have. One word here:

STOP

Stop with the fighting, the threats, the personal attacks, the various
actions that have caused some people to leave this list. Stop now or I'll
start banning people left and right. I'm trying to provide a resource for
the community but if all it does is lead to flames and all then I'll just
drop this list.
I don't want to but all of this is harming much more than you, it's harming
me, your fellow community members, and the ColdFusion itself. If people do a
search for ColdFusion jobs and sees the stuff that's coming up on this list,
they'll run for their lives.

I'm going to ask this one more time. Lets keep this professional.

Thank you

Michael Dinowitz


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(Admin) Civility and professionalism

[Michael Dinowitz]

This is just a general admin message about civility and professionalism on this 
and other lists. I've had talks with various people about these issues and the 
results have been positive. For those I have not talked with but may have 
concerns in this area, please know that it's been handled. I'd rather not say 
more than that.

Thank you

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Re: Atlanta GA ColdFusion Developer ready for work! Can start tomorrow!

[Michael Dinowitz]

Once a week is ok. Once a day is spam.
Saying that your available and some of your qualifications is good. Giving a
non-professional story is not.
I'm sure others will give their opinions on this but the above are two good
rules that the list admin likes to go by.


On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Phillip Vector
wrote:

>
> At what point is posting that you are available on the list considered
> spamming?
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Re: Ben Forta

[Michael Dinowitz]

1. Ben is Jewish and would not be posting during Passover.
2. If I find who did post while I was off for Passover then I'll ban then.
3. The post is going bye bye.

I'm so tired.

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On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Jeffrey Epstein  wrote:
>
> Does anybody know if that post supposedly from Ben Forta is legit? The link 
> went to some music video on YouTube, so I do not trust the email address. -JE
>
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Not a jobs list

[Michael Dinowitz]

Please remember that this is a jobs discussion list, not a jobs list. Job
postings should only be made to the CF-Jobs list. Any job posted here will
NOT go to the subscribers of CF-Jobs. Also, please do not cross post jobs.
Thanks

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Re: CF Job Market

[Michael Dinowitz]

The second issue of the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update was all about CF
and OO. I'd say it's a good place to start.

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Re: lists question

[Michael Dinowitz]

I'm totally against salary based on when you were born. :)
If you have some example forms and/or suggestions, please let me know. I'm
doing it both for people looking for work as well as people looking to hire.

On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Phillip M. Vector <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> As long as you put on there telecommuting as an option and salary
> offered (rejecting letters like "DOB" or such), I'm all for it. :)
>
> Michael Dinowitz wrote:
> > CF-Jobs is written so that any reply is automatically sent to the
> original
> > posters email address, not to the cf-jobs list. In order to reply to the
> > cf-jobs list someone would have to write the cf-jobs email address in
> > specifically or have a bad email client. I'm setting the cf-jobs list to
> > reject any 'reply-to' message which will stop replies but the off topic
> > stuff would still be a problem. The answer to that is something I've been
> > planning for a while which is to use a singe, standard job posting form
> to
> > post to the list rather than free-flow emails. In other words, you would
> > have to post from the site only for cf-jobs.
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >wrote:
> >
> >> No. I do not want to see the CF-jobs talk littered with chatter and
> >> garbage. its bad enough that people automatically respond to the list
> >> without checking for the sender's email address. Combining the two
> >> lists will really reduce the signal to noise ratio.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Steve Runyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >>> Given how infrequently the lists are used correctly, would it make
> sense
> >> to
> >>> combine CF-Jobs and CF-Jobs-Talk?  I agree that the concept of
> splitting
> >> the
> >>> two is a good one in theory, but maybe it doesn't make real-world
> sense.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
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Re: lists question

[Michael Dinowitz]

CF-Jobs is written so that any reply is automatically sent to the original
posters email address, not to the cf-jobs list. In order to reply to the
cf-jobs list someone would have to write the cf-jobs email address in
specifically or have a bad email client. I'm setting the cf-jobs list to
reject any 'reply-to' message which will stop replies but the off topic
stuff would still be a problem. The answer to that is something I've been
planning for a while which is to use a singe, standard job posting form to
post to the list rather than free-flow emails. In other words, you would
have to post from the site only for cf-jobs.

On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> No. I do not want to see the CF-jobs talk littered with chatter and
> garbage. its bad enough that people automatically respond to the list
> without checking for the sender's email address. Combining the two
> lists will really reduce the signal to noise ratio.
>
> On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Steve Runyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Given how infrequently the lists are used correctly, would it make sense
> to
> > combine CF-Jobs and CF-Jobs-Talk?  I agree that the concept of splitting
> the
> > two is a good one in theory, but maybe it doesn't make real-world sense.
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: I'm available

[Michael Dinowitz]

GMail automatically set the wrong address. :(

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 1:06 AM, Michael Dinowitz <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> I'm Michael Dinowitz. I run this list and it's home, House of Fusion. I'm
> available for ColdFusion and content optimization (SEO) work as well as
> training in those (and related) areas.
>
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> Publisher: Fusion Authority(http://www.fusionauthority.com)
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I'm available

[Michael Dinowitz]

Hi,
I'm Michael Dinowitz. I run this list and it's home, House of Fusion. I'm
available for ColdFusion and content optimization (SEO) work as well as
training in those (and related) areas.

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Re: What Cold Fusion Job boards are there?

[Michael Dinowitz]

NY is a hard place to find people as they're all 'taken'. Those who are
freelancers, like myself, either have a few set contracts or are at the whim
of headhunters who want to fit a programmer into a box with a low price with
no concept of skill.
I'm talking to a friend to get some space at Touro College to do a few
non-official classes on CF, HTML, Content Optimization, User Interface,
Editorial, and Psychology (yes, they all interrelate). Once I get a few
people living through that, I'll let people know. It'll take at least 3
months to do it right my way.

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 5:31 PM, carl starm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> I need to hire a cold fusion/sql pro shortly for NYC.
>
> Our preference is for someone to work at our location in NYC.
>
> I'll post the job here, but I was wondering what other places I should post
> this job to.
>
> I want to choose the best person for the job and would like to interview a
> few people.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> 

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Re: CF Newbie Developer NYC

[Michael Dinowitz]

If you need, I'm available for teaching and mentoring in the NY area (I'm in
Brooklyn), though not as a full time employee. This may allow you to 'grow'
someone into a better ColdFusion programmer or even train one from the
ground up.

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 11:12 AM, kim torrance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I am currently looking for a 1-3 year CF developer for a major bank located
> downtown NYC.  Base salary is in the $75-95K range.
>
> Description Below:
>
> A  Bachelor's degree in Computer Science or Information Science or
> equivalent education and/or work experience;
> Experience developing systems with ColdFusion;
> Experience with HTML and Javascript;
> Experience with SQL Server and/or Oracle;
> Working knowledge of Windows 2003;
> Experience developing web-based systems;
> Strong analytical and problem solving skills;
> Excellent interpersonal and written communication skills;
> Strong customer service skills; the ability to handle multiple service
> requests;
> Familiarity with Java and/or J2EE technologies a plus;
> Familiarity with Word, Excel, and Powerpoint. Knowledge of macros a plus;
> and
> Familiarity with the Technology Project standards and Capability Maturity
> Model (CMM) a plus.
>
>
> Responsibilities:
> Develop new applications, apply software changes to enhance applications,
> and provide production support for several Bank businesses including
> Research, Statistics and Cash
>
> Develop test scripts and execute a full range of tests including unit,
> systems, regression and security tests;
> Write various types of documentation including code specifications,
> technical and user guides, etc.;
> Learn and apply business knowledge to perform development and support
> activities; and
> Learn and apply the BSD processes which incorporate the Technology Project
> Standards as well as Capability Maturity Model standards.
>
> If you are interested in  this position please send your resume and I will
> respond immediately.
>
> Thank You,
> Kim Torrance
> Lead Technology Management
> 230 Park Avenue
> Suite 10
> New York, NY 10017
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.ltmgmt.com
>
>
>
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Re: Re[4]: CF Developers - Iraq

[Michael Dinowitz]

Oh, well dental is worth the $187.50 reduction an hour.

On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Alex Puritche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Second that. Although, as alien, I'd agree just for $312.5/h + dental
> insurance.
>
> MD> Yes, I know I would never get the price but that's the point. If
> someone
> MD> really wants it (or me) then it's a NUMBER, not just a number.
>
> >> I thought you was agree to do it for a couple of months
> >> just for $312.5/h, wasn't you?
>
> >> MD> $500 an hour sounds like a reason for me to go despite my enhance
> >> risks.
>


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Re: CF Developers - Iraq

[Michael Dinowitz]

See how up I am. I thought this was the cf-community thread. Or did I say
this to point out that there is another thread on community about this. ;)

On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Phillip Vector <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Hey Mike?
>
> This IS jobs-talk. :)
>
> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Michael Dinowitz
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Oh, I know. I kind of run the lists. :)
> > A number of $50k was joked about on cf-jobs-talk so the speculation isn't
> > only here.
> >
>


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Re: Re[2]: CF Developers - Iraq

[Michael Dinowitz]

No matter how much I need the money, I wouldn't cut corners here. I have
standards. It's like my selling price for House of Fusion. $10 million
dollars and not a cent less. And in real money, no stock or fluffy stuff.
Yes, I know I would never get the price but that's the point. If someone
really wants it (or me) then it's a NUMBER, not just a number.

On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Alex Puritche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I thought you was agree to do it for a couple of months
> just for $312.5/h, wasn't you?
>
> MD> $500 an hour sounds like a reason for me to go despite my enhance
> risks.
>
>
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Re: CF Developers - Iraq

[Michael Dinowitz]

Oh, I know. I kind of run the lists. :)
A number of $50k was joked about on cf-jobs-talk so the speculation isn't
only here.

On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Phillip Vector <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Just to clear up some confusion, I'm not the one who posted the ad. I
> was mearly replying to 2 posts on the cf-jobs list.
>
> I have no idea what the pay is.. You would have to contact the person
> directly to get that.
>
> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 8:40 AM, Michael Dinowitz
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > $500 an hour sounds like a reason for me to go despite my enhance risks.
> I
> > wonder if I could get extra pay for being a Jew in "death to Jews"
> > territory?
> >
> > On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> It isn' that bad, quite a few people have returned relatively
> >> unscathed. Most civilian contractors who go over there never really
> >> are exposed to any major risks.
> >>
> >> On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 8:52 AM, Tom Chiverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >> wrote:
> >> > 2008/5/30 Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> >> whats the pay like?
> >> >
> >> > Seriously, how much is your life worth ?
> >> > Working in *Iraq*... wtf... remote working at all. Geez.
> >> > --
> >> > Tom
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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Re: CF Developers - Iraq

[Michael Dinowitz]

$500 an hour sounds like a reason for me to go despite my enhance risks. I
wonder if I could get extra pay for being a Jew in "death to Jews"
territory?

On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> It isn' that bad, quite a few people have returned relatively
> unscathed. Most civilian contractors who go over there never really
> are exposed to any major risks.
>
> On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 8:52 AM, Tom Chiverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > 2008/5/30 Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> whats the pay like?
> >
> > Seriously, how much is your life worth ?
> > Working in *Iraq*... wtf... remote working at all. Geez.
> > --
> > Tom
> >
> >
>
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Re: Re[2]: CF Developers - Iraq

[Michael Dinowitz]

For that much I'd go for a month or two and I'm hated on so many levels
there.

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Alex Puritche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> PI> whats the pay like?
>
> $50K/mo I guess.
>
>
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Re: Achieve Masters that you deserve of Established Skilled Institution.

[Michael Dinowitz]

The major problem here is that the post is being made from the HoF server
interface. This means that I have a hole somewhere or someone knows my
password. :(

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> You know mike I can suggest a couple of people who are really good at
> treating multiple personality disorders.  ;)
>
> larry
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 2:11 PM, Michael Dinowitz
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Please ignore while I kill this.
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Dead Beat Clients.

[Michael Dinowitz]

If the original post was a general one then it would not be a problem but it
'naming names' made it one, especially as one of those names is on the list.
It looked all the world like an attack from a false face.

On Feb 4, 2008 1:02 PM, Matt Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Feb 4, 2008 11:26 AM, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > While this thread has evolved into a useful discussion, it's original
> premise is one that is not only inflammatory but possibly libelous. The
> problem is that it was probably posted by a sock puppet account as my emails
> to "angry housewife" have not resulted in any reply (though it'll probably
> result in a reply to this thread).
> >
> > For this reason, the base post will be removed from the archive and the
> threading will be reset to reflect the removal. I'll also be looking into
> the source of the account to see who it's a sock puppet for. Should not be a
> problem.
>
> Probably a good idea Michael.
>
> It is interesting that the original angry housewife post said it isn't
> libelous, but obviously wanted to be anonymous. Things that make you
> say hmmm.
>
> --
> Matt Williams
> "It's the question that drives us."
>
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Re: Dead Beat Clients.

[Michael Dinowitz]

While this thread has evolved into a useful discussion, it's original premise 
is one that is not only inflammatory but possibly libelous. The problem is that 
it was probably posted by a sock puppet account as my emails to "angry 
housewife" have not resulted in any reply (though it'll probably result in a 
reply to this thread).

For this reason, the base post will be removed from the archive and the 
threading will be reset to reflect the removal. I'll also be looking into the 
source of the account to see who it's a sock puppet for. Should not be a 
problem. 

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Re: [Fwd: Cold Fusion Web Developer-- BOSTON AREA]

[Michael Dinowitz]

I keep posters email addresses off of the digest in order to prevent them
from ending up in the hands of spammers. Why make their jobs easier? The
question is, how can I make it easier for people to contact a job poster?
The answer would be to have posts made from the archives to a job poster go
directly to them. This keeps their address hidden from spammers while
keeping them accessible.

On Jan 23, 2008 1:13 PM, Steve Runyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> @Judith or the list developer: while it's true that posters should make it
> a
> habit to include their contact info in the body of their posts, might
> there be a way to automatically include each poster's email in the
> digests?
> I switched from digest to immediate mode to avoid that problem, but the
> digest can be more convenient sometimes.
>
> Thanks!
> Steve
>
>
> On Jan 23, 2008 12:31 PM, Vincent Cannady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > By the way Mr ROBOT all I get from CF Jobs Talk is a digest every 2 hour
> > which does not give email addresses, just your name. FYI !
> > >I would try this:
> > >
> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >since it is right in the header of the email and he never gave an
> > alternate.
> > >
> > >But that's just me, using the tools in front of me instead of spamming
> a
> > >whole list, exactly like the poster asked NOT be done.
> > >
> > >Different strokes for different folks I guess.
> > >
> > >On Jan 22, 2008 9:42 PM, Vincent Cannady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> >
> >
>
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Re: Senior Coldfusion Developer wants Telecommute work for $25.00

[Michael Dinowitz]

I've had a request to kill this thread which involves me restricting posts to 
it. 

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Re: Seeking Programmer to Develop Social Networking Tools for our website

[Michael Dinowitz]

You might want to post this to the cf-jobs list where most of the job
seekers are. That being said, I'll throw my resume into the mix. It's not
that hard a job once the details have been specked out:
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfczxfqq_41sgtvhz
I don't do quotes though. Just hourly.

On 9/12/07, Betsy Burlingame <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> We run a website for expatriates and are looking to add social/
> professional networking tools to our platform.  We would like to add
> "Linked In" style tools to enable members to create profiles, build
> their networks, join public groups, publish their own blogs, publish
> articles, post events/view calendar, find jobs/post jobs/network for
> jobs, etc..
>
> Although we do some developing ourselves, this project seems like too
> much for us and we'd like to get help with some/all of it --
> depending upon the cost.
>
> Components:
>
> 1- Join/Create Profile (integrate registration with current forum
> registration - same usernames/passwords)
>
> 2-Opt-In to Different Functionality - i.e. want to receive job offers
> from employers/recruiters, want to meet other single expats, want to
> use service to recruit people, etc...
>
> 3-Build Your Network: invite friends outside site, search for/invite
> people from inside site, accept/decline others' invitations
>
> 4-Show Networking Opps: i.e. there are 10 other members in frankfurt,
> germany - click here to view the list -- there are 3 other members
> who also work for P&G -- etc..
>
> 5-Member Matching Funtionality: match new expats/people preparing to
> move abroad with seasoned expats (who have volunteered to "mentor"
> newcomers), apply same to dating for single expats, possibly same to
> help expats make friends abroad, etc..
>
> 6-Member Address Book
>
> 7-Member Content: blogs, articles, events, classifieds (possibly
> premium)
>
> 8-Events Calendar: from events submitted by members that they said
> should be publicly viewable - possibly member-specific events
> calendar, too, for a member's network to view
>
> 9-Communicating: chat, IM/text, forums (we already have forums on
> site that would be integrated somehow).  But, would probably want to
> enable members to have their own forums and/or groups to have their
> own forums (still brainstorming)
>
> Job Listings/Recruiting funcationality:
>
> Group Functionality: enable people to build their own groups - both
> public and private (possibly making private ones a premium) with
> events, calendar, member list, etc..
>
>
> Obviously, we're still figuring out some of the development work.  If
> you're interested in the project, please quote us for the numbered
> sections -- 1 through 9.  Thanks!
>
>
> Betsy Burlingame
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Portland Oregon ColdFusion Developers Wanted

[Michael Dinowitz]

1. This is the jobs discussion list, not the jobs list itself.
2. Do not send general 'send your resume' posts to the list. If you
have a job, post it or at least post something about it. Sending a
general request for resumes is seen by many as fishing and is frowned
upon.

On 8/11/07, Dave DeVol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Experienced ColdFusion Developers.
>
> Find out more by sending your resume to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> DealerPeak
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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Re: Available on CF Job List?

[Michael Dinowitz]

I set the list up to do both sides of the job market so if you are looking 
for work, please feel free to announce it and post a link to your resume.


> Just curious.. Because if this is true, I was unaware I could do this...
>
> Can you actually post "Hey, I'm available for work. Here's my skillset"
> on the cf jobs list? I always thought that it was only for people to
> post POSITIONS available.
>
> If I am incorrect in this, please let me know.
>
> 

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Not a jobs list

[Michael Dinowitz]

The CF-Jobs-Talk list is for discussion about jobs, the job market and related 
concepts. This is NOT a jobs list, which is the CF-Jobs list. I'll be removing 
all jobs that have been posted to this list so if you want your job seen, I'd 
repost it to CF-Jobs as soon as you can.

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Not a jobs list

[Michael Dinowitz]

Just a reminder that this is not a jobs list. The CF-Jobs list is where you 
should be posting jobs. This is a list to discuss things ABOUT jobs and the job 
market. I'll be moving job posts from this list over to where they belong as 
soon as I get a second.

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Re: Too much experience - VTC?

[Michael Dinowitz]

We'll be reviewing your title as well as the MX one. Yours is a bit dated, 
but still covers the rather unchanging core of CF. I did a title for a 
company wy back in time and still have some copies, but I don't think I 
made as much as you did. I've done a captivate or two in the past and if I 
can, I'll do some more. Maybe if I do enough, I'll have a VTC type CD.


> Another option, if you want to share the love, is to do a title for
> VTC (Virtual Training Co.). I created a title for them on CF5 a few
> years back on how to write a db-driven community site in CF and got
> $4k up-front against future sales. The title hasn't done as well as
> either of us would have hoped (looking back on it now I'm a little
> embarrassed by the coding techniques I was espousing, but then again
> I was learning CF as I was making the CD, so that may be the culprit)
> but I still made my $4k and I have a training CD on my resume, and
> I've been contacted by dozens and dozens of people since it was released.
>
> http://www.vtc.com/cd/cold-fusion.htm
>
> I don't know if they'd take a title on CF frameworks, but if you
> approached them with the concept of a training CD that brings
> together all the different frameworks and their flavors into a
> comparitive How-To, they may buy it, and so may a lot of developers (like 
> me).
>
> What I do know is that VTC does take CF titles... they have two of
> them up there now. Mine, and another by Darcey Spears on ColdFusion
> MX that focuses on components and web services.
>
> http://www.vtc.com/cd/coldfusionmx.htm
>
> If done in a premeditative manner, without distraction, you could
> author a CD in two weeks easy. I would think they'd want the stars of
> the CF World authoring their CDs.
>
> Mik
>
>
> At 06:27 AM 2/14/2006, you wrote:
>>Or, you could collect those materials and see if you couldn't market them 
>>to
>>a publishing company. Maybe you have a friend within the community who is
>>looking to publish a new guide to advanced cf programming concepts, for
>>which your materials might make a welcome addition on the bonus CD/DVD. 
>>Or,
>>you could sit down with some of the other greats within the community and
>>write a book yourself.
>>
>>There's a very empty niche out there, right now, with regards to CF
>>frameworks. The only books are on FB, and I don't think any of them even
>>cover 4.1 yet, even with 5 on the way. I sent Hal Helms an email, about a
>>year ago, about when we might see a book on Mach II (since there was so
>>little documentation out there), and he told me he was just way too busy 
>>to
>>write one right then. Still hasn't happened, and I don't think he's 
>>working
>>on one now either.
>>
>>OK, ya gotta eat. There seems to be a ton of telecommute opps popping up
>>here day to day. Do some contract stuff, write the ultimate
>>beginning/intermediate cfframeworks guide, and make a bundle as the hero 
>>of
>>the CF community for demystifying advanced programming concepts for the
>>un-initiated.
>>
>>Steve "Cutter" Blades
>>ColdFusion Application Developer
>
> 
> Michael Muller
> Admin, MontagueMA.net Website
> Montague, MA 01351
> work (413) 863-0030
> cell (413) 320-5336
> fax (518) 713-1569
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Re: Too much experience

[Michael Dinowitz]

Look at my old CFSCRIPT docs linked from the front of HoF. I'm building out 
a lot of my old docs into a tutorials section that can eventually be bound 
together as a CF cookbook. Actually, I have to go experiment to see if 
setting a cookie through cfparam makes it a session based cookie (as what 
happens when using cfset) or a longer one (as with cfcookie). Maybe I should 
charge for my experiment writeups. :)
Of I can just post them to blog of fusion and collect them later.


> I'd love to see more online publications for CF Developers.  Why should I
> have to haul around a 20lb book to find what I need?
>
> Mike, you should start a subscription-based website and write us an online
> book. :D Something we could log onto anywhere.  Anything would be easier 
> to
> use than Macromedia's website.
>
> Sonya
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 7:23 AM
> To: CF-Jobs-Talk
> Subject: Re: Too much experience
>
>
>  There is no money in publishing. unless you have massive sales.  There
> aren't enough CF Developers to generate massive sales.  I don't think
> publishing is a solution.  It will just make 'you' look more experienced,
> and it will be harder to get work.
>
>  Framework books are a niche within a niche, and I'd be surprised if book
> sales would reach 1,000 copies.  When I was dealing w/ a publisher, 20,000
> was the break even point.  If you self publish, I'm sure the break-even
> point is much smaller.
>
>
> At 06:27 AM 2/14/2006, you wrote:
>>Or, you could collect those materials and see if you couldn't market them
> to
>>a publishing company. Maybe you have a friend within the community who is
>>looking to publish a new guide to advanced cf programming concepts, for
>>which your materials might make a welcome addition on the bonus CD/DVD. 
>>Or,
>>you could sit down with some of the other greats within the community and
>>write a book yourself.
>>
>>There's a very empty niche out there, right now, with regards to CF
>>frameworks. The only books are on FB, and I don't think any of them even
>>cover 4.1 yet, even with 5 on the way. I sent Hal Helms an email, about a
>>year ago, about when we might see a book on Mach II (since there was so
>>little documentation out there), and he told me he was just way too busy 
>>to
>>write one right then. Still hasn't happened, and I don't think he's 
>>working
>>on one now either.
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Re: Too much experience

[Michael Dinowitz]

For anyone going this route, Judith is an excellent editor and I was 
technical editor on Ben's RegEx book and one of the technical editors on the 
O'Reilly CF book. With a good editorial team in place (us), all you really 
need is a writer (yourself) and a publisher (can also be yourself). Some 
advertising on sites where your target audience 'lives' will help as well. I 
think I know of a few sites like that. :)

>  The time to write a book is an up front cost.  As a consultant, this is a
> huge expensive.
>  Promotion is another up front cost.  Just because you write it doesn't
> mean it'll sell.
>  For anyone going this route, I'd also recommend getting a copy editor
> (Yes, Michael you could use Judith) and Technical Editor.
>
>  Using a service such as CafePress will give you a lower sell rate to
> profitability than a publisher, though.  Also, you don't have to deal with
> returns.  :ha, ha:  None of my books have sold anything in over a year, 
> but
> still each royalty statement still has anywhere between 5 and 50 book
> returns on it.


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Re: Too much experience

[Michael Dinowitz]

Didn't get a nibble. I'm going to cfobjective to speak. I should find out if 
there are any contracts over there. :)
Actually, I've been working on getting some of my presentations into a nice 
flow and put them into a tutorial section on HoF. My cfscript presentation 
is up already and one of my regex ones is going up next.
I should just take my media directory (houseoffusion.com/media) and make 
some podcasts.


> Of course we all appreciate everything you've GIVEN away... but you gotta
> eat somehow. I recall you putting your self out there for consulting when
> you traveled somewhere a while back (to FL I think). Any luck there? We 
> all
> know your name is a well known one in the CF community, I'd think
> consulting, speaking and teaching would be a good market for you... Just a
> thought.
>
> ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
> Bobby Hartsfield
> http://acoderslife.com
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 2:42 PM
> To: CF-Jobs-Talk
> Subject: Re: Too much experience
>
> I'm doing that with my various pieces of email code. These lists are all 
> CF
> driven and the code should be put out there. Problem is, I hate charging 
> for
>
> my code.
>
>
>> Perhaps the solution is to build marketable apps that are really very
>> good, and make your money that way. That's what I'm trying. Takes a
>> while for it to take off though, that's for sure. But once it's
>> going, you're good.
>>
>> Mik
>>
>> At 02:22 PM 2/13/2006, Michael Dinowitz wrote:
>>>I saw another NY based contract on the CF-jobs list but once I saw
>>>who posted it, I knew I'd never get it. Why? Because I'm too
>>>experienced. If you have 10+ years in ColdFusion your almost
>>>un-hirable. If you ask below your worth, the company is worried that
>>>you will not be happy and will jump ship first chance you get. And
>>>that's if you take below your worth to begin with. If you ask your
>>>worth, the head hunter will not send you to the company for fear of
>>>the company rejecting the resume out of hand. Or to be more real,
>>>the head hunter will try to talk you down to what he feels is the
>>>highest the company will go because he gets a percentage and really
>>>wants to get it. If you ask for a real bid, the chances are the head
>>>hunter will just not send it along at all. Too many high bids makes
>>>the head hunter look bad.
>>>It's a dangerous cliff. Grow and get better but if you get too good,
>>>you fall off. :(
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Too much experience

[Michael Dinowitz]

Hm. I like teaching and I'm good at it. Let me ask around to see what I can 
do in this area.


> That's what I've been doing a lot of lately, and building up a good 
> private
> client base that provides a regular source of reliable income.
>
> For reference, when looking for full-time jobs, a good place to always 
> look
> even with tons of experience would be higher education. Universities 
> always
> seem to be more inclined to look at people with a lot of experience in a
> field who say they're willing to work for a limited salary in exchange for
> other benefits.
>
> I took a solid paycut to take the position I have now, but it came with
> wonderful retirement, tuition, health and vacation/sick leave benefits I
> wouldn't get anywhere else. The contracting on the side makes up the
> financial difference and it's a good, stable environment.
>
> I've seen the positions in my department fill up more and more often with
> people like me.
>
> Sonya
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mik Muller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 2:26 PM
> To: CF-Jobs-Talk
> Subject: Re: Too much experience
>
>
> Perhaps the solution is to build marketable apps that are really very
> good, and make your money that way. That's what I'm trying. Takes a
> while for it to take off though, that's for sure. But once it's
> going, you're good.
>
> Mik
>
> At 02:22 PM 2/13/2006, Michael Dinowitz wrote:
>>I saw another NY based contract on the CF-jobs list but once I saw
>>who posted it, I knew I'd never get it. Why? Because I'm too
>>experienced. If you have 10+ years in ColdFusion your almost
>>un-hirable. If you ask below your worth, the company is worried that
>>you will not be happy and will jump ship first chance you get. And
>>that's if you take below your worth to begin with. If you ask your
>>worth, the head hunter will not send you to the company for fear of
>>the company rejecting the resume out of hand. Or to be more real,
>>the head hunter will try to talk you down to what he feels is the
>>highest the company will go because he gets a percentage and really
>>wants to get it. If you ask for a real bid, the chances are the head
>>hunter will just not send it along at all. Too many high bids makes
>>the head hunter look bad.
>>It's a dangerous cliff. Grow and get better but if you get too good,
>>you fall off. :(
>>
>>
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Too much experience

[Michael Dinowitz]

Problem is, in NY almost every corp or government job your going to see is 
through a head hunter. There are smaller things around, but the really big 
jobs are locked into a specific way of being offered.


>I consider Head Hunters / Recruiters a last resort.  For the reasons
> you list below, and many many more.  Personal networking is a much
> better way to go.
>
> -Cameron
>
> On 2/13/06, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I saw another NY based contract on the CF-jobs list but once I saw who 
>> posted it, I knew I'd never get it. Why? Because I'm too experienced. If 
>> you have 10+ years in ColdFusion your almost un-hirable. If you ask below 
>> your worth, the company is worried that you will not be happy and will 
>> jump ship first chance you get. And that's if you take below your worth 
>> to begin with. If you ask your worth, the head hunter will not send you 
>> to the company for fear of the company rejecting the resume out of hand. 
>> Or to be more real, the head hunter will try to talk you down to what he 
>> feels is the highest the company will go because he gets a percentage and 
>> really wants to get it. If you ask for a real bid, the chances are the 
>> head hunter will just not send it along at all. Too many high bids makes 
>> the head hunter look bad.
>> It's a dangerous cliff. Grow and get better but if you get too good, you 
>> fall off. :(
>
> 

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Re: Too much experience

[Michael Dinowitz]

I'm doing that with my various pieces of email code. These lists are all CF 
driven and the code should be put out there. Problem is, I hate charging for 
my code.


> Perhaps the solution is to build marketable apps that are really very
> good, and make your money that way. That's what I'm trying. Takes a
> while for it to take off though, that's for sure. But once it's
> going, you're good.
>
> Mik
>
> At 02:22 PM 2/13/2006, Michael Dinowitz wrote:
>>I saw another NY based contract on the CF-jobs list but once I saw
>>who posted it, I knew I'd never get it. Why? Because I'm too
>>experienced. If you have 10+ years in ColdFusion your almost
>>un-hirable. If you ask below your worth, the company is worried that
>>you will not be happy and will jump ship first chance you get. And
>>that's if you take below your worth to begin with. If you ask your
>>worth, the head hunter will not send you to the company for fear of
>>the company rejecting the resume out of hand. Or to be more real,
>>the head hunter will try to talk you down to what he feels is the
>>highest the company will go because he gets a percentage and really
>>wants to get it. If you ask for a real bid, the chances are the head
>>hunter will just not send it along at all. Too many high bids makes
>>the head hunter look bad.
>>It's a dangerous cliff. Grow and get better but if you get too good,
>>you fall off. :(
>>
>>
>
> 

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Too much experience

[Michael Dinowitz]

I saw another NY based contract on the CF-jobs list but once I saw who posted 
it, I knew I'd never get it. Why? Because I'm too experienced. If you have 10+ 
years in ColdFusion your almost un-hirable. If you ask below your worth, the 
company is worried that you will not be happy and will jump ship first chance 
you get. And that's if you take below your worth to begin with. If you ask your 
worth, the head hunter will not send you to the company for fear of the company 
rejecting the resume out of hand. Or to be more real, the head hunter will try 
to talk you down to what he feels is the highest the company will go because he 
gets a percentage and really wants to get it. If you ask for a real bid, the 
chances are the head hunter will just not send it along at all. Too many high 
bids makes the head hunter look bad.
It's a dangerous cliff. Grow and get better but if you get too good, you fall 
off. :(

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www.proveit.com

[Michael Dinowitz]

I just took a CFMX 6.1 skill test from http://www.proveit.com/ and let me say 
that I was VERY disappointed. Yes, it was the standard 'memory' over skill but 
it was even worse than that. There was one question which had 4 correct answers 
and the only difference was your own personal style of programming.
This seems to be the test used by head hunters when evaluating CF people and 
I'm REALLY not happy about it. I believe that a real test written by real 
people and edited by a real technical editor is needed for those who are 
clueless of ColdFusion and need a standard placement test. 


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Re: What makes a programmer look low level

[Michael Dinowitz]

> A lot of folks would argue about the pound signs saying that it's just
> a matter of preference. I certainly don't care to see pound signs
> where they're not needed  -- it strikes me as sloppy
> and confusing, but I've never made a real issue of it.
That's why I said look. it's all about perception.

> by 2. are you referring to people using boolean evaluation without the
> "is" or "eq" keywords or people using more conditions than are
> necessary for a given if statement? i.e.
I'm refering to



Where the 2 CFIF clauses can be combined. This was seen in the


type statements. CF 4.01 added the ability to combine them properly where if 
the first clause of an AND statement failed, the second never happened (for 
example)

> My additions:
>
> 1) Improper use of evaluation in general:
>
> good: 
> bad: 
Goes to proper use of pounds

> good: 
> bad: 
partially proper use of pounds as well as proper usage of evaluate

> 2) Use of arrays where structures are more appropriate
>
> good: mycart[1].productname
> good: mycart[1]["productname"]
> bad: mycart[1][1] (not-descriptive)
> bad: mycart[1][productname]   (overcomplicated)
>
> (note the lack of quotes in the latter indicating that "productname"
> must also be declared as a local variable in this case with a value of
> "1").
>
> 3) use of snippets or coppy-pasted code -- particularly with MX
> (between  and CFC's) if you see more than one line of code
> repeated just about anywhere, there is almost always a way it could be
> encapsulated so that the code wouldn't need to be repeated, thus
> creating unnecessary maintenance / development burdens later. This is
> more obscure, and ymmv with regard to the amount of code that
> constitutes a "snippet". I've been known to agonize over replication
> of code that's even one line in length. But then I'm a big fan of Once
> And Only Once (OAOO) and Don't Repeat Yourself (DRY).
>
> 4) not using cfqueryparam :)


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Re: What makes a programmer look low level

[Michael Dinowitz]

That's why I said "look" and not "are". :)
The point is when getting a job at a knowledgeable company, the way your 
code looks is almost as important as what you know.

>I wouldn't use the term "low level" - "beginner level" or even
> "inexperienced" are more accurate descriptions and personally, I
> think there are far too many possible signs.  For that matter, I'd like
> to mention that I have met some developers that are very talented (I'd
> consider them "Senior" level developers based on skill alone) who happen
> to have poor syntax/code style habits.  One such developer I met used
> hash marks all of the time when they didn't need to.  Syntactically it
> looked amateurish, but the code itself was not inefficient and was very
> complex (advanced).

>
>
> Michael Dinowitz wrote:
>
>>How about we look at what makes a programmer look low level and work our 
>>way up. Two things that come right to mind are:
>>1. Improper use of pound signs in evaluation zones
>>2. Improper usage of IF clauses (not using short circuited Boolean 
>>evaluation)


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Re: What makes a programmer look low level

[Michael Dinowitz]

I can see places where this is needed


> 3. Queries inside of a cfloop or cfoutput (with the query attribute of
> course) and could have easily been avoided with a simple join in their
> original query.
>
> On 5/9/05, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> How about we look at what makes a programmer look low level and work our
>> way up. Two things that come right to mind are:
>> 1. Improper use of pound signs in evaluation zones
>> 2. Improper usage of IF clauses (not using short circuited Boolean
>> evaluation)
>>
>>
>
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What makes a programmer look low level

[Michael Dinowitz]

How about we look at what makes a programmer look low level and work our way 
up. Two things that come right to mind are:
1. Improper use of pound signs in evaluation zones
2. Improper usage of IF clauses (not using short circuited Boolean evaluation)


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Re: Where are all the mid-level CF developers?

[Michael Dinowitz]

Maybe, maybe not. Yes there is some minor (very minor) overhead when 
instantiating an object and passing data (by reference) to it but not much 
more so than using a custom tag or UDF. If you know what your doing and 
cache the objects than this overhead is pretty much gone and all your left 
with is clean, organized code.
The main drawback with OO is that people either don't know what they're 
doing or they are following it strictly to the OO letter rather than 
adapting the best of it to CF.


> Isn't one of the drawbacks of OO architecture that it tends to use more
> resources?  Isn't it true that people are willing to make that sacrifice 
> to
> make more manageable code?


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Re: Where are all the mid-level CF developers?

[Michael Dinowitz]

As I've seen a LOT of CF code in my life, I have to agree. CF is too easy. 
It allows someone to get away with murder and it'll still work. That's why 
I'm really happy for the push in the CF world towards OO. Not that it should 
be followed religiously, but just learning it will force people to rethink 
their code. I'm also happy that I'm stuck on limited hardware. Too often 
people are on quad gigahertz machines with gigabytes of ram. This allows 
them to write poor code and not worry about performance or cleanliness. I'm 
on a 650mhz with 640 meg of ram. House of Fusion HAS to be written tight. I 
think everyone should be forced to write at least one project on inferior 
hardware just to force them to think of what they're doing. I think everyone 
should be FORCED to read a book on coding methodologies and design at least 
once a year. I think everyone should be FORCED to put their code up for 
review so others can pick it apart. Make the developer want to do it the 
best they can.


> at the risk of being publicly yelled at, I'll also say that in my
> experience, the quality of work of most CF Developers isn't deserving of
> a high salary.  That's not to say that there aren't Java developers who
> write poor code, but Java pretty much "forces" you to use good coding
> techniques moreso than CF.  CF makes it easy to write "bad" code.
> That's not a bad thing, unless people choose to take the easy route and
> write "bad" code (whch many do).  There's no reason why a CF developer
> that's building complex enterprise applications shouldn't be earning as
> much as a java developer building complex enterprise applications,
> provided they're both competent.  To be honest, most Java developers are
> more competent with specific parts of java rather than all of java -
> there are too many APIs and core classes to master all of them.  An
> "expert" CF Developer is really worth more than an "expert" java
> developer in my opinion because they have complete mastery of their
> environment as opposed to mastery of part and competence in the rest.
> Just an observation I've had (and I've worked with A LOT of Java
> developers).
>
> ~Simon
>
> Simon Horwith
> CIO, AboutWeb - http://www.aboutweb.com
> Editor-in-Chief, ColdFusion Developers Journal
> Member of Team Macromedia
> Macromedia Certified Master Instructor
> Blog - http://www.horwith.com
>
>
>
>
> Daniel Kang wrote:
>
>>If the CF developer does all thing (database design, application
>>design, coding, testing, etc), how much is he/she going to be paid in,
>>let's say, downtown NY?  Are we understood that 50K in downtown NY is
>>for CF developers who are doing only coding???
>>
>>Daniel
>>
>>On 4/29/05, Simon Horwith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>they don't always get paid less but more often than not, they do.  This
>>>is probably because the majority of the tasks performed by CF Developers
>>>are the kinds of things that don't require you to be a competent
>>>architect, programmer, or even tester.
>>>
>>>~Simon
>>>
>>>Simon Horwith
>>>CIO, AboutWeb - http://www.aboutweb.com
>>>Editor-in-Chief, ColdFusion Developers Journal
>>>Member of Team Macromedia
>>>Macromedia Certified Master Instructor
>>>Blog - http://www.horwith.com
>>>
>>>
>>>Daniel Kang wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
The fundamental question is why CF developers get paid less than
others??   Perhaps, I need to switch to the Java arena!

Daniel

On 4/29/05, Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




>>if I wanted to pay $60-70k I could easily hire a very senior 
>>developers (which seem to be easier to find too!).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>A mid level J2EE developer makes 100K+ easy in SF where the cost of
>living is less than in NY... where do you think all the CF developers
>went?
>
>I am a senior developer and I find 60K rather insulting - Fast food
>restaurant managers make more than that. If you can get a senior
>developer for 60K I'd say grab him/her.
>
>(PS not to start an up roar - look at the cost of living in your area
>before you start demanding higher salary)
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Re: Where are all the mid-level CF developers?

[Michael Dinowitz]

OK. In response to the need for mid level CF developers in NY, I'm going to 
post my availability as a ColdFusion Guru and Mentor to the CF-Jobs list. All 
I'll do is be on call to answer clients questions in a way that makes them (the 
developers) think on a 'higher level' as well as come in for spot training and 
reviews. Take a low level and make them a mid or better as well as make 
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Re: Where are all the mid-level CF developers?

[Michael Dinowitz]

Exactly. W2 has the taxes on income taken out by the employer while a 1099 
expects you to do it. My last 'contract' was supposed to be a W2 but they 
1099ed me instead. As for reducing the burden, I've got children who go to 
private school, a wife who does not work outside the house (Fusion Authority 
is not a paying job), a business (House of Fusion) that makes almost no 
money a year while having expenses (the machines, software, etc.) and 
various work related equipment.
A W2 employee can't take transportation or business meals as an expense but 
a 1099 person can. A person with a small business (such as me) can take 
certain business related expenses for hardware, software, books, 
conferences, etc.
It's all a game between the government, a company and a person. 
Unfortunately I'm losing it. :(

>  Michael, I'm very curious as to what type of deductions you are taking as
> a W2 employee that eliminates your tax burden, vs what you are taking as a
> contractor.  Do you just mean as a W2 they take out money each paycheck,
> whereas w/ a 1099 you have to pay quarterly (on your own)?
>
> At 02:15 PM 4/29/2005, you wrote:
>>Counts on many things. For me with a wife and 3 kids, I pay about 33% or 
>>so.
>>That means around 34k after taxes but various deductions can reduce the
>>burden to 5% or less. That's on a 1099, which is a contractors agreement. 
>>A
>>W2 (employee) allows you to reduce your tax burden past 0% and actually 
>>get
>>money back which is why I always try for a W2 if I can.
>>
>> > maybe that's a little bit offtopic, but how much is left from $50k 
>> > after
>> > paying taxes? Sorry I don't live in the US.
>> >
>> > viktors
>> >
>> > Daniel Brown wrote:
>> >> I manage a small (getting smaller!) team of CF developers for a web
>> >> development company in downtown NY specialising in ecommerce, and we 
>> >> now
>> >> have 2 positions for mid-level developers that have been open for 
>> >> months.
>> >>
>> >> Where have all the CF developers gone?  The only people I have 
>> >> applying
>> >> for this position have almost no experience.  On the rare occassions
>> >> someone walks through the door who is at about the right level they 
>> >> want
>> >> to be paid the earth - if I wanted to pay $60-70k I could easily hire 
>> >> a
>> >> very senior developers (which seem to be easier to find too!).
>> >>
>> >> All we want are 2 solid developers with 2-3 years experience.  Is a 
>> >> $50k
>> >> salary really too little to expect to be able to find someone
>> >> appropriate?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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Re: Where are all the mid-level CF developers?

[Michael Dinowitz]

Counts on many things. For me with a wife and 3 kids, I pay about 33% or so. 
That means around 34k after taxes but various deductions can reduce the 
burden to 5% or less. That's on a 1099, which is a contractors agreement. A 
W2 (employee) allows you to reduce your tax burden past 0% and actually get 
money back which is why I always try for a W2 if I can.

> maybe that's a little bit offtopic, but how much is left from $50k after
> paying taxes? Sorry I don't live in the US.
>
> viktors
>
> Daniel Brown wrote:
>> I manage a small (getting smaller!) team of CF developers for a web 
>> development company in downtown NY specialising in ecommerce, and we now 
>> have 2 positions for mid-level developers that have been open for months.
>>
>> Where have all the CF developers gone?  The only people I have applying 
>> for this position have almost no experience.  On the rare occassions 
>> someone walks through the door who is at about the right level they want 
>> to be paid the earth - if I wanted to pay $60-70k I could easily hire a 
>> very senior developers (which seem to be easier to find too!).
>>
>> All we want are 2 solid developers with 2-3 years experience.  Is a $50k 
>> salary really too little to expect to be able to find someone 
>> appropriate?
>>
>>
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Re: Where are all the mid-level CF developers?

[Michael Dinowitz]

Not really. I had a 'contract' with a company which turned out to be for 54k 
a year on a 1099 in NY. It was not enough to keep me afloat especially after 
they didn't pick up my medical as they had agreed to (among other things). 
For someone with a family, a job has to have medical or else it's an extra 
12k a year or so in insurance. For a single, 50k might be ok, but

> Let me ask a question - is $50K a "good" salary for a NYC job?  In other
> words, could one live comfortably with that salary in that region?  I'd
> take that salary in a heartbeat here in New Hampshire, but I'm sure that
> our living expenses are much lower that in NY.


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Re: Where are all the mid-level CF developers?

[Michael Dinowitz]

It's a NY thing. To get a CF job in NY most of the time you have to go 
through a recruiter and that makes it look like there are few CF jobs in the 
city. That causes most people in NY (who would learn it otherwise) not to 
learn CF. This causes people like you to suffer. It's a vicious cycle.
If you want, I can train some low level people up to middle level rather 
quickly or can come in for some spot work as needed.
Having some low level people with a good mentor on call can make them mid 
level really quickly.


>I manage a small (getting smaller!) team of CF developers for a web 
>development company in downtown NY specialising in ecommerce, and we now 
>have 2 positions for mid-level developers that have been open for months.
>
> Where have all the CF developers gone?  The only people I have applying 
> for this position have almost no experience.  On the rare occassions 
> someone walks through the door who is at about the right level they want 
> to be paid the earth - if I wanted to pay $60-70k I could easily hire a 
> very senior developers (which seem to be easier to find too!).
>
> All we want are 2 solid developers with 2-3 years experience.  Is a $50k 
> salary really too little to expect to be able to find someone appropriate?
>
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Re: Indian code

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If I had a business manager, then maybe. As is, I charge the same as my 
standard rate. I should be charging more, but

> Not to mention the fact that you make twice as much training as
> coding. Right Mike.
> ;)
> larry
> 
> 
> On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:09:23 -0400, Michael Dinowitz
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Positive of course. A job is a job, a CF programmer is a CF 
> programmer and the advancement of CF is the advancement of CF.
> > 
> > >What was your response to his request?
> > 
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Re: Indian code

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It's one of my specialties. :)

>Well, from my experience
>fixing other people's code is frustating, most of the time :)
>Bad variable name, bad technique, not to mention the indentation or 
>comment, duh!

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Re: Indian code

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Positive of course. A job is a job, a CF programmer is a CF programmer and the 
advancement of CF is the advancement of CF.

>What was your response to his request? 

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Re: Indian code

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Actually, I am a trainer and I've trained my competition all the time. As for 
my response on outsourced code, you can hear it here:
http://houseoffusion.com/articles/raw/
These are my raw, pre-article thoughts and if you like them, please transcribe 
one for me. :)

>I hope you told him that you're not a trainer.  Ugh.  Why don't you
>train your competition so that we need you even less!  Does this make
>any sense??

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[Michael Dinowitz]

OK, I was just asked to find a bug on a live site and fix it. The site was 
written by an outsource indian and he was not available. I went into the site, 
looked over the code and found the problem in no time. While looking, I 
mentioned to the client that the code looked like it was done by a first month 
CF programmer. You know the type, pound signs everywhere, lots of CFIFs, etc. 
Didn't say the code sucked or anything, just that it looked amaturish. 
The response? A request to tutor the outsource programmer to bring them up to 
par. 

Why am I posting this? Because I've heard time and again about the quality of 
outsourced code and wanted to chime in with my experience. The code was simple, 
mostly hard coded and simplistic looking. Either outsourced code will improve 
or all those jobs will come back here to quality code. 

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RE: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

[Michael Dinowitz]

I've got what's needed to convince a Java client to move to CF and can sell
a project but I fall down on billing, project cost specs and the like. 

On a side sales note, once I get my digital recorder in, I'll have a few
"selling ColdFusion in a Java world" scripts recorded for transcription.
Should be rather useful. :)

>   I think there is a lot of potential there, specially w/ your
> knowledge-base as the "lead".
>   I'm okay at business, but not at sales.  To make something like that
> successful, you need a good sales folk.
> 
> At 11:49 AM 1/21/2005, you wrote:
> >I suck at business. If you know someone with the business experience to
> do
> >this, I'd be happy to partner with them and make it happen. I've got
> >everything needed short of that.
> >
> > >   Start your own firm.  If you can place 10 people for $50 an hour,
> pay
> > > them $40 an hour, then you're making $100 an hour just making sure
> that
> > > they are on track.
> > >   I know it's easier said than done.
> > >
> > >   For the record, there are currently 4 CF-related positions in
> > > Connecticut
> > > on Dice.com.  More than I've ever seen at one time.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

[Michael Dinowitz]

Glad to hear. I like knowing that CF is getting out there. 

> I seriously considered moving out to DC, I figure some day I will
> probably end up out there. I am finding more and more places in Ohio
> that use CF though.
> 
> Adam H
> > On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:14:02 -0500, Michael Dinowitz
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > When things were really bad in NY I seriously thought about doing
> weeks in
> > > DC and home on the weekends. Judith really didn't like the idea.
> > >
> > > > Darn, guess I need to pack up my truck and move to DC then to avoid
> > > > this frustration I now have ...
> > > >
> 
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RE: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

[Michael Dinowitz]

When things were really bad in NY I seriously thought about doing weeks in
DC and home on the weekends. Judith really didn't like the idea. 

> Darn, guess I need to pack up my truck and move to DC then to avoid
> this frustration I now have ...
> 
> 
> On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:50:45 +, Simon Horwith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Johnny - just thought I'd give you a friendly warning/piece of advice:
> > try not to compare DC with anywhere else in the world when it comes to
> > the CF job market.  It only frustrates people that don't live here.  Yes
> > - the market in DC is unreal... but that's unique to DC.
> >
> > ~Simon
> >
> > Simon Horwith
> > CIO, AboutWeb - http://www.aboutweb.com
> > Editor-in-Chief, ColdFusion Developers Journal
> > Member of Team Macromedia
> > Macromedia Certified Master Instructor
> > Blog - http://www.horwith.com
> >
> > Johnny Le wrote:
> >
> > >Where do you guys live?  The job market is booming in DC.  It is very
> easy to find a CF job here.  Not only that, many CF developers make DotNet
> salary.
> > >
> > >I am not sure if you should worry about cheap foreign labor.  The cheap
> labor is definitely attractive.  I actually hired them on a bunch of
> projects before, and now I rather pay extra for developers here.  Off-
> shore developers are actually coders and not developers.  Their code is
> extremely messy.  They don't account for all the scenerios.  Things don't
> tie together. Pages are all over the place.  They constantly reinvent the
> wheel.  After using the applications for a while, all applications started
> to fall apart.  Now it would take me a lot of time to figure out what's
> going on and try to fix it.
> > >
> > >Communication was also difficult.  You can tell them things over and
> over again, but they will always do the way they want to do it.  They
> don't want to collaborate with other teams.  They always do their own
> things.
> > >
> > >So I think eventually all the companies will crawl back to us.  Unless
> the foreign coders become the real developers, but that also means their
> salary will increase.  So I think we will be safe.
> > >
> > >Johnny
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>Yeah, I've been there.  I got laid from a 30 person (6 developer)
> > >>company off at the end of August; I was a Sr. CF Programmer, lead UI
> > >>guy, backup to the sysadmin and on alternating thursdays I played
> > >>Banjo in the band.  Turns out they were sold but hadn't made the news
> > >>public, they were trying to make the balance sheet look as good as
> > >>possible so they laid off some people.  We did lots of high-volume CF
> > >>stuff.  It pissed me off; after 10 years in the industry, this was the
> > >>first time I was the one being laid off.
> > >>
> > >>Fortunately, I'm realistic enough to be able to look at myself and ask
> > >>realistic questions.  Such as, "Would I hire a 45 year old me?" (I'm
> > >>38 now).  So, a couple of years ago I went back to work on an M.Ed. so
> > >>that I could teach high school English.  That's what I did to turn a
> > >>depressing revelation (the answer to the question I asked myself) into
> > >>a real plan that will take me for the next 30 years of this journey
> > >>called "life".
> > >>
> > >>The downside is, I was unemployed for over 4 months.  I only recently
> > >>landed a job with a small company rewriting a critical internal app,
> > >>which should be an 8 or 9 month project...at the end of the project,
> > >>I'll be ready to student teach, and then I can segue into a new (and
> > >>hopefully final, I can't see them offshoring teachers, and it's one of
> > >>those few careers where age and experience is an asset) career.
> > >>
> > >>Anyway, yes, the state of the tech industry is depressing.  I'm a tech
> > >>guy, I love technology, I love building web sites.  Fortunately, I
> > >>also like planning ahead.  There will always be offshoring, and soon
> > >>enough, jobs will be being offshored from India to the next tech-savvy
> > >>but cheap labor force.  There will always be new buzzwords that the IT
> > >>and development managers of the world will be chasing, believing them
> > >>to be the next big thing.  Me?  I guess I've grown weary of it all.
> > >>
> > >>Good on ya', mate, for getting a new gig.  They are definitely fewer
> > >>and farther between.
> > >>
> > >>Pete
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
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RE: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

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I suck at business. If you know someone with the business experience to do
this, I'd be happy to partner with them and make it happen. I've got
everything needed short of that.

>   Start your own firm.  If you can place 10 people for $50 an hour, pay
> them $40 an hour, then you're making $100 an hour just making sure that
> they are on track.
>   I know it's easier said than done.
> 
>   For the record, there are currently 4 CF-related positions in
> Connecticut
> on Dice.com.  More than I've ever seen at one time.



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RE: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

[Michael Dinowitz]

Nah, I've got the Team Allaire watch for ebay. :)

> sounds like a candidate for eBay, Mike ;)
> 
> ~Simon
> 
> Simon Horwith
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> Editor-in-Chief, ColdFusion Developers Journal
> Member of Team Macromedia
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> Blog - http://www.horwith.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Michael Dinowitz wrote:
> 
> >I still have the floppies (3) and the one from forums (1). Damn, I have
> to
> >clean up. :)
> >
> >
> >
> >>mine is stapled... CF 1 on a floppy.  Yes, the good old days indeed.  I
> >>miss picking up the phone and talking with Jeremy from his garage ;)
> >>
> >>~Simon
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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RE: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

[Michael Dinowitz]

I still have the floppies (3) and the one from forums (1). Damn, I have to
clean up. :)

> mine is stapled... CF 1 on a floppy.  Yes, the good old days indeed.  I
> miss picking up the phone and talking with Jeremy from his garage ;)
> 
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RE: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

[Michael Dinowitz]

Now I'm going to have to check when I get home. I know there's a spiral
bound docs from some early version. 

But back to the thread, I think I'm going to start mentoring programmers
from my community in CF and send them to some of these jobs. They have well
over 10 years software experience so picking up CF should be easy. Add in my
knowledge of it and they'll have the equivalent of 3 years in as many
months. 
Maybe get a mentor's cut and not have to work full time. Oh, that sounds
good. Maybe even get a company to sponsor me for a bit while I get them some
top people. Getting better and better. 

> Mine is not spiral bound if I remember right it is just stapled.  I
> feel cheated, perhaps I should call up MACR and complain  :)
> 
> 
> On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:18:00 -0500, Michael Dinowitz
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Yeh, white paper spiral bound with a clear plastic cover. The good old
> days
> > when the docs were like 25 pages. Oh, I feel old now as well.
> > The Blackstone docs are a total of 100 times that now. How we've grown.
> >
> > > Must have been 10 years for us, because when we "bought" it we
> > > actually got a beta and later on got the real thing.  I still have the
> > > "manual" to I think it is 1.0 or 1.5 sitting on my desk at home.  I
> > > think I redefine pack rat, I might have finally thrown away some CF3
> > > references though.  Ok, I feel old now :)
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:51:31 -0500, Michael Dinowitz
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Official release was July of 95 with a beta before that. That's
> > > officially
> > > > 9.5 years and a max of 10 or 10.5 for those on the beta. I didn't
> get in
> > > > until the end of the beta so it's not a full 10 years for me yet.
> > > > But yeh, it's been a long time.
> > > > >
> > > > > Amazing how time flies, I had to sit here and think for a second
> as to
> > > > > when CF came out.  We were one of Allaire's first customers for
> the
> > > > > product, for some reason I was thinking it had only been 7-8 years
> > > > > ago, but alas math is not my strong point(well this morning at
> least)
> > > > > because been at least 9 and betting it has been 10 as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:58:17 -0500, Michael Dinowitz
> > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > my 10 years CF experience
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Aaron Rouse
> > > > > http://www.happyhacker.com/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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RE: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

[Michael Dinowitz]

Yeh, white paper spiral bound with a clear plastic cover. The good old days
when the docs were like 25 pages. Oh, I feel old now as well.
The Blackstone docs are a total of 100 times that now. How we've grown.

> Must have been 10 years for us, because when we "bought" it we
> actually got a beta and later on got the real thing.  I still have the
> "manual" to I think it is 1.0 or 1.5 sitting on my desk at home.  I
> think I redefine pack rat, I might have finally thrown away some CF3
> references though.  Ok, I feel old now :)
> 
> 
> On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:51:31 -0500, Michael Dinowitz
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Official release was July of 95 with a beta before that. That's
> officially
> > 9.5 years and a max of 10 or 10.5 for those on the beta. I didn't get in
> > until the end of the beta so it's not a full 10 years for me yet.
> > But yeh, it's been a long time.
> > >
> > > Amazing how time flies, I had to sit here and think for a second as to
> > > when CF came out.  We were one of Allaire's first customers for the
> > > product, for some reason I was thinking it had only been 7-8 years
> > > ago, but alas math is not my strong point(well this morning at least)
> > > because been at least 9 and betting it has been 10 as well.
> > >
> > > On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:58:17 -0500, Michael Dinowitz
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > my 10 years CF experience
> > >
> > > --
> > > Aaron Rouse
> > > http://www.happyhacker.com/
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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RE: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

[Michael Dinowitz]

Official release was July of 95 with a beta before that. That's officially
9.5 years and a max of 10 or 10.5 for those on the beta. I didn't get in
until the end of the beta so it's not a full 10 years for me yet. 
But yeh, it's been a long time.
> 
> Amazing how time flies, I had to sit here and think for a second as to
> when CF came out.  We were one of Allaire's first customers for the
> product, for some reason I was thinking it had only been 7-8 years
> ago, but alas math is not my strong point(well this morning at least)
> because been at least 9 and betting it has been 10 as well.
> 
> On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:58:17 -0500, Michael Dinowitz
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > my 10 years CF experience
> 
> --
> Aaron Rouse
> http://www.happyhacker.com/
> 
> 

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RE: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

[Michael Dinowitz]

I've been seeing a sharp increase in NY area jobs which is great. Problem
is, because most of the CF in the area has been 'hidden' for the last 4
years most of the programmers are either taken or just not present. I'm
working on getting some programmers from my area and giving them some of my
10 years CF experience to get them into these jobs. 
I'll see if I can get someone for you. I'd think about taking it but I don't
want to travel to NJ every day (I'm in Brooklyn). 
I do consult and teach though (and have a security clearance from my federal
reserve days). :)

> Well - with all the CF Developers out there that are looking for work; I
> haven't been able to find too many in NJ.  We have been looking for a CF
> Developer to join our company on a full-time permanent basis here in
> Eatontown, NJ.  Haven't had much luck.
> 
> If you or anyone you know that is an advanced CF Developer with experience
> using CF 5.0, CM MX, Fusebox, etc., please contact me immediately at 732-
> 544-8454 or [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Must be a US citizen - as our
> position requires obtaining a security clearance.
> 
> We can offer a stable environment, with no worries of "off shoring".
> 
> We are a growing company, and offer competitive salaries, comprehensive
> benefits package to include 401(k), profit sharing, bonus program, tuition
> reimbursement, medical/dental/life, and other perks.
> 
> Looking desperately for a Senior CF Developer
> 
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RE: Seattle, WA position

[Michael Dinowitz]

I'll ask as that last one came directly to me. Yes, I'm kind of know for
getting people for jobs, but

> Hey, Mike, I have gotten two direct emails from headhunters offering jobs
> the past couple of days.  Are they just searching the archives and sucking
> out our email addresses?
> 
> Not that I am complaining, if I was getting fired tomorrow, I would love
> to
> have them.  Just wondering.
> 
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RE: Busy List

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5+ years MX would not be possible. We were ironing out the pieces of MX in
fall of 2000. I think it came out in beta 2001 and release 2002. Someone
please correct me if I'm wrong.

> Did MX come out in 2000 or 1999? I saw an ad asking for 5+ year of MX
> experience...w/o counting beta is that even possible? I was stuck on
> the CF 5 wagon when MX emerged so I am off on the exact MX
> timelineI was just wondering if this is like the ad I saw in 2003
> asking for 5 years of expereince with  SQL server 2000. At any rate
> yes there have been quite a few job postings lateltyand full time
> jobs at that not just contracts...
> 
> Adam H
> 
> 
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:31:38 -0500, Michael Dinowitz
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > All different jobs. A number of nice ones and that's not even the rest
> of
> > the NY ones I have to post. The CF job market is looking up.
> >
> > > Is it just me or is CF-Jobs very busy of late?
> > >
> > > I've not been reading the mails as from the subject line they all seem
> to
> > > be
> > > in the US. For all I know it might be the same job again and again!
> > >
> > > Ade
> > > --
> > > No virus found in this outgoing message.
> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> > > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.11 - Release Date: 12/01/2005
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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RE: Busy List

[Michael Dinowitz]

All different jobs. A number of nice ones and that's not even the rest of
the NY ones I have to post. The CF job market is looking up.

> Is it just me or is CF-Jobs very busy of late?
> 
> I've not been reading the mails as from the subject line they all seem to
> be
> in the US. For all I know it might be the same job again and again!
> 
> Ade
> --
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> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.11 - Release Date: 12/01/2005
> 
> 
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RE: software developers vs web-site developers?

[Michael Dinowitz]

In this day and age, how many 'websites' are web only?

> Web developers usually only do websites. Software developers are
> experienced in creating applications for use beyond the web, or
> integrating web sites with other applications.
> 
> 
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:41:57 -0400, Johnny Le <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Michael Dinowitz just posted a message on the CF-Jobs forum looking for
> two Cold Fusion MX Developers.  At the end of the message, he made the
> distinction that 'Our client is looking for software developers not "web-
> site developers".'
> >
> > What exactly is the difference between sofware developers and web site
> developers?  We are talking about ColdFusion here.  ColdFusion is strictly
> web-based.  Aren't all ColdFusion applications web sites?  Aren't all
> ColdFusion software developers "web-site developers"?  What are the
> requirements you should have in order to call yourself a software
> developer?
> >
> > Johnny
> >
> >
> 
> 

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RE: software developers vs web-site developers?

[Michael Dinowitz]

In the ad which I forwarded from someone else, the recruiter made the
distinction between software and website developers. When the question of
what this meant came up, I gave my interpretation. 
Yes, I'm making the (loose) connection. It sounds like they want to spend 9
months with a month or two sitting down doing the whole UML, OO,
documentation route. This is an engineering approach for a project that is
not time critical. 
Or it may just mean they want someone with more programming experience. I'd
ask the recruiter directly. 

> Hi Mike,
> 
> You confused me even more. In your ad, you distinguished between software
> developers and web site developers, but here you distinguish between
> engineers and programmers.  Are you saying software developers are like
> engineers and web site developers are like programmers?
> 
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RE: software developers vs web-site developers?

[Michael Dinowitz]

Actually, it was the recruiters language, not mine. On the other hand, I am
writing an article to distinguish between programmers and software
engineers. 
The difference can be summarized as an engineer has the time and ability to
plan out a whole application from 0 to finish. They use UML, OO, and full
documentation before beginning. A programmer usually does not have the time
or ability to do all that. They write code for an app that may be
standalone, may be an extension of something already in existence or a patch
for a bug. There's little planning vs. implementing and usually little
documentation.
For example, I'm mainly a programmer. I don't have the luxury of doing full
scale planning for my own stuff or at my job. I can do the full engineer
thing with pages of docs, designs, etc. but it falls down to time. I need to
implement something now, not 3-6 months down the road. An engineer is
looking at that time frame or more.
This is not to say an engineer is not a programmer or a programmer is not an
engineer. It's saying that the approach, mindset and focus is different. 

> Michael Dinowitz just posted a message on the CF-Jobs forum looking for
> two Cold Fusion MX Developers.  At the end of the message, he made the
> distinction that 'Our client is looking for software developers not "web-
> site developers".'
> 
> What exactly is the difference between sofware developers and web site
> developers?  We are talking about ColdFusion here.  ColdFusion is strictly
> web-based.  Aren't all ColdFusion applications web sites?  Aren't all
> ColdFusion software developers "web-site developers"?  What are the
> requirements you should have in order to call yourself a software
> developer?
> 
> Johnny
> 
> 

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RE: REALLY annoyed with this site

[Michael Dinowitz]

Due to a request by the original poster, I'll be removing this thread. 

> -Original Message-
> From: Dan O'Keefe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 6:03 AM
> To: CF-Jobs-Talk
> Subject: RE: REALLY annoyed with this site
> 
> Your wrong, so just quit your whining and go back to you NASA job (ooh
> boy).
> I have been using this site for years and have switched amongst several
> addresses and find it has worked perfectly every time, even when posting
> from the HOF interface. You are exposing your lack of understanding that
> when posting from the HOF interface, it is not a blind post, and that is
> why
> you have to sign in before you can post there.
> 
> 
> Dan
> === Previous Message Below ===
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: sdfgsdfg sdfgsdfg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 9:19 PM
> To: CF-Jobs-Talk
> Subject: Re: REALLY annoyed with this site
> 
> I am NOT posting FROM an email address at all.  I am posting ON the
> Houseof
> Fusion site itself, using its interface.
> 
> I am thoroughly disgusted with this site.
> 
> > Wow, I do feel bad for what has happened to you.  I would encourage
> > you to post from the email address you want the email to appear
> > "from".  I see that even now you are posting it from a hotmail account
> > containing a first and last name.
> >
> > -Cameron
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 18:05:45 -0400, Me Myself <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > com> wrote:
> > > Wow, I'm unbelievably angry that House of Fusion used my work email
> > address in my recent posting to this list.
> > >
> > > I specifically changed my email address to a personal one before
> > signing up for this list.  It's ironic that HOF cannot code their site
> > properly so that my change took effect for the email list (though I do
> > see the changed email address in the account settings).
> > >
> > > PLEASE DO NOT use my NASA address for correspondence. I am
> > unsubscribing to this list now.  Please send any correspondence to
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> net
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: REALLY annoyed with this site

[Michael Dinowitz]

If you changed the address and then posted from the interface then it HAD to 
use the changed email address. When you change an address in the settings, it 
changes the address totally. There is NO RECORD of your nasa address in the 
system at all. None. 
This means you posted while your nasa address was still your primary address. 
If you want the code, I can send it to you and you'll see that it depends 
totally on the stored DB record. I'll even show you a record of all nasa 
addresses on system (not the full addresses, but enough to see that none of 
them are yours). 

Bottom line is that the system works properly. Your post took the address you 
were subscribed with at the time and use that. I'm sorry that this happened, 
but there nothing I can do other than warn people that the message their about 
to post will use their subscribed address and show them what it is.

> It wasn't sent from any email address at all.  I posted from the 
> HouseofFusion interface, AFTER changing the email address in my 
> account settings.
> 
> >From the message headers, it looks like the first email was sent from 
> 
> >your work email, and the second from the forums
> >
> >-Jeff
> >
> >Me Myself wrote:
> >
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Re: REALLY annoyed with this site

[Michael Dinowitz]

No mail system rewrites the from address. Your subscription is to show where 
mail should be delivered and what addresses can post. You had 2 accounts. 
You posted from one of them and assumed that the system would instead use 
the email address of the other. That's not the systems fault.

If you post with an address, that is the address that will be shown as the 
poster. Same with every mail system out there.


> That's STUPID.
>
> HOF allows users to change their email address.  My change was reflected 
> in
> my account settings. If I sign up to a list AFTER I make that change, as I
> did, the new email address should be used.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 9:56 PM
> Subject: Re: REALLY annoyed with this site
>
>
>> The email address you sign up with is the address your allowed to postr
>> with. The email address you post with it carried on for the message sent
> out
>> to the list. Your email address/name/whatever is not replaced. If you
> posted
>> with a nasa address then that is what was sent to the list. If you posted
>> with a verizon address, that would be the one posted to the list.
>>
>>
>> > From the message headers, it looks like the first email was sent from
>> > your work email, and the second from the forums
>> >
>> > -Jeff
>> >
>> > Me Myself wrote:
>> >
>> >>Wow, I'm unbelievably angry that House of Fusion used my work email
>> >>address in my recent posting to this list.
>> >>
>> >>I specifically changed my email address to a personal one before 
>> >>signing
>> >>up for this list.  It's ironic that HOF cannot code their site properly
> so
>> >>that my change took effect for the email list (though I do see the
> changed
>> >>email address in the account settings).
>> >>
>> >>PLEASE DO NOT use my NASA address for correspondence. I am 
>> >>unsubscribing
>> >>to this list now.  Please send any correspondence to
>> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > 

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Re: REALLY annoyed with this site

[Michael Dinowitz]

The email address you sign up with is the address your allowed to postr
with. The email address you post with it carried on for the message sent out
to the list. Your email address/name/whatever is not replaced. If you posted
with a nasa address then that is what was sent to the list. If you posted
with a verizon address, that would be the one posted to the list.


> From the message headers, it looks like the first email was sent from
> your work email, and the second from the forums
>
> -Jeff
>
> Me Myself wrote:
>
>>Wow, I'm unbelievably angry that House of Fusion used my work email
>>address in my recent posting to this list.
>>
>>I specifically changed my email address to a personal one before signing
>>up for this list.  It's ironic that HOF cannot code their site properly so
>>that my change took effect for the email list (though I do see the changed
>>email address in the account settings).
>>
>>PLEASE DO NOT use my NASA address for correspondence. I am unsubscribing
>>to this list now.  Please send any correspondence to
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> 

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RE: The State of Programming in the United States?

[Michael Dinowitz]

Nice to hear. As an aside, I plan to 'borrow' some of the features you have
for inclusion into HoF. I've been looking into how to hide peoples list
emails and an internal email system would be the perfect solution. Should
take me a few hours when I can find them. :) 
If I was in SoCal, I'd have answered. This is exactly what I'm doing or
planning for HoF. Actually, adding Blackstone features has popped to the top
of the list, but
Time. All I need is time. :)

> Just to be more specific, at our company we host myspace.com 
> which is the 
> biggest social networking site on the planet right now.  We 
> beat friendster 
> a while ago.
> 
> I was told a while ago that the myspace team would need about 
> 14 developers 
> over the course of the next 6 months.  Plus my team needs at 
> least one more 
> hire beyond the one we just hired.
> 
> So anyone in southern california should look into us.  We need strong 
> MS-SQL skills and good knowledge of how to performance tune CF (think 
> cached queries).  Even if you don't think you have the chops, 
> crack open a 
> book until you can answer the quizzes and you can pretty much 
> guarantee 
> you'll be hired.
> 
> We just issued a press release that indicates we'll be on 
> Amex in a couple 
> weeks so we're doing pretty well now.
> 
> We already get more page-hit traffic than any other entity 
> that hosts cold 
> fusion.  It's the place to be if you want to make a long-term 
> career of 
> cold fusion.  Even if Macromedia abandons CF, we're not going 
> to shift off 
> of CFML, but we intend to start using BlueDragon for .NET and 
> slip in some 
> C# where required so that CFML is simply a language choice, 
> not a server 
> architecture.  So it's also a good opportunity for CF people 
> to learn some 
> .NET on the job.
> 
> I suspect only a few people on this list are in Southern 
> California because 
> this isn't the first time I've put out the call and I haven't 
> gotten too 
> many responses.
> 
> 
> 

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RE: If you really need work as a CF Programmer let me know.

[Michael Dinowitz]

But you do have beta access to Blackstone. :)
(for those who don't get the joke, read the CF-Talk archives)

  _  

Include me as a Job hunter in DC/Virginia Area.

I don't have clearance, but I really wanna move to that area.
it would be great for a long term contract or fulltime job.

Thanks
An Advanced ColdFusion programmer. 
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RE: If you really need work as a CF Programmer let me know.

[Michael Dinowitz]

The only reason I'm not making the commute is because I have family. I'v got
clearance (worked for the federal reserve on contract) and over 9 years
solid CF experience. I could be very comfortable in DC, but my family would
not be comfortable with me doing all the travel. :(

  _  

From: Steven A. Sherman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 3:37 PM
To: CF-Jobs-Talk
Subject: RE: If you really need work as a CF Programmer let me know.

Well, I came from San Diego and I will tell you I am much happier here!  The
metro is awesome and if not you can "SLUG" (commuter lots).  I have to say
the job security you get around here at a range of 80K to 125K is great.  A
good CF Developer can be successful knowing that he/she can lean on the next
five companies begging for their services.  When I moved here a year ago my
5K Sq Ft home was 350K and now the same home in Stafford, VA is 550K.  

Now anyone living in San Diego will tell you that their 2 bedroom 1 bath
condo is a minimum of 400K.  If I were a developer in Southern California, I
would be moving to the DC Area.  

  _  

From: Neil Robertson-Ravo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 3:24 PM
To: CF-Jobs-Talk
Subject: Re: If you really need work as a CF Programmer let me know.

Certainly cannot be as high as London!!

Connie DeCinko wrote:

>But what's the cost of living like in that area?  I heard it was pretty
>high.
>
>  _  
>
>From: Steven A. Sherman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 10:29 AM
>To: CF-Jobs-Talk
>Subject: If you really need work as a CF Programmer let me know.
>
>
>If you can work on site in the DC area I get at least three job offers a
>week.  I used to post them on CF-Jobs.  Then I just got lazy and started
>sending others to the list.  The pay is good up here and I have never been
>offered less then 80k.   DC is really a great place to earn some real
dough.
>
>
>I also recommend the following sites:
>
>http://www.careerbuilder.com  
>
>http://www.dice.com  
>
>http://www.monster.com  
>
>http://www.washingtonpost.com   (try your
>local metropolitan newspaper website) 
>
>If you need a job bad..do a Google or an AllTheWeb search for .CFM  and see
>who is in your area hiring.
>
>
>
>  _ 
>  _  
>
>
>
>

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RE: If you really need work as a CF Programmer let me know.

[Michael Dinowitz]

As an aside here, there may be a business model in getting a large house or
hotel for migrant programmers who come to DC for the week (or a day or so)
and just need a place to stay. 

  _  

From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 2:28 PM
To: CF-Jobs-Talk
Subject: Re: If you really need work as a CF Programmer let me know.

I might be moving back upto MD sometime soon so hopefully i can live
in aberdeen and commute to DC. Better then living in Coral Springs and
commuting to north miami. imho

- Original Message -
From: mdinowit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 13:34:57 -0400
Subject: RE: If you really need work as a CF Programmer let me know.
To: CF-Jobs-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Washington is GREAT for CF programmers and even better if you have
clearance. It's even worth it to commute if need be.

  _  

From: Steven A. Sherman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 1:29 PM
To: CF-Jobs-Talk
Subject: If you really need work as a CF Programmer let me know.

If you can work on site in the DC area I get at least three job offers a
week.  I used to post them on CF-Jobs.  Then I just got lazy and started
sending others to the list.  The pay is good up here and I have never been
offered less then 80k.   DC is really a great place to earn some real dough.

I also recommend the following sites:

http://www.careerbuilder.com  

http://www.dice.com  

http://www.monster.com  

http://www.washingtonpost.com   (try your
local metropolitan newspaper website) 

If you need a job bad..do a Google or an AllTheWeb search for .CFM  and see
who is in your area hiring.

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RE: Google your business name lately?

[Michael Dinowitz]

How do I put this as bluntly as possible. These lists are designed to be
100% indexed by Google and replicated to at least 6 other archives. Head
hunters come to these lists in order to see what prospective employees are
saying. 
Whatever you say here WILL be seen by others. 
This entire thread has been a waste of space and I'd like for it to end
before more things are said. 
Thank you

  _  

From: Louis Mezo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 1:07 PM
To: CF-Jobs-Talk
Subject: RE: Google your business name lately?

LOL This would be assuming that my reputation has somehow been "damaged" on
this list. Subjective at best...

Thanks,
Louis Mezo
LogicSynthesis
Tel: 240.498.8951
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.logicsynthesis.com

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  -Original Message-
  From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 11:58 AM
  To: CF-Jobs-Talk
  Subject: RE: Google your business name lately?

  If you truly feel that your business has been harmed by this, it is time
  to talk to your lawyer.

    I do not think there is anything you can say on this list that will
  "repair" your and your businesses lost reputation.

  At 11:51 AM 9/9/2004, you wrote:
  >The selection of the particular URLs that are returned on Google if you
run
  >a search on "logisynth" is what's suspect. Out of all of the material
  >available, this is what someone chose to represent me with? This is not
  >automation or chance, but deliberate. Anybody who doesn't know anything
  >about me or my company would be immediately turned off, so I'm not buying
  >that it leaves you with a neutral impression.
  >
  >This is smear, and it's been going on for while. So, I wonder if anyone
else
  >is finding themselves in a similar situation on Google. So check your
name
  >and your business name on Google, you might be unpleasantly surprised.
  >
  >I also suspect the motivation of the individual in question who selected
  >this particular material to represent my business with.
  >
  >Thanks,
  >Louis Mezo
  >LogicSynthesis
  >Tel: 240.498.8951
  >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >http://www.logicsynthesis.com
  >
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  >
  >
  >   -Original Message-
  >   From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >   Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 11:30 AM
  >   To: CF-Jobs-Talk
  >   Subject: Re: Google your business name lately?
  >
  >   > Louisif you want to accuse somebody of something...do it...if
not...
  >   > explain this cryptic thread
  >
  >   Or better yet put it behind you and let this thread rest in peices.
  >
  >   Hatton
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Re: Google your business name lately?

[Michael Dinowitz]

Can this thread please be put to rest. 
A summary of "watch what is being said about your company on the net" is good and is all that needs to be said. An addition of "watch what you say on public lists that are replicated and indexed heavily by search engines" should be added.
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RE: Senior CF/StudioMX2004 Developer available

[Michael Dinowitz]

OK, Now I'm going to have to ask for this thread to stop. 

 
As a point, the lists are rather self moderating with people pointing out if
something is off topic or should be moved to private mail.
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RE: Senior CF/StudioMX2004 Developer available

[Michael Dinowitz]

Well, this topic is a spinoff of a cf-job post and that makes it rather on
topic for this group. Not exact, but close enough.

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From: Adam Haskell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 3:07 PM
To: CF-Jobs-Talk
Subject: Re: Senior CF/StudioMX2004 Developer available

This sort of stuff is what cf-jobs-talk is for. If you are looking for
info on jobs you can find it on cf-jobs cf-job-talk is the proper
place for this type of stuff. Mike D if I got it all wrong let me know
and I put a sock in it :)

Adam H 

On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 14:06:10 -0400, Sear, Erik, CON, OASD(HA)/TMA
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is this conversation 'jobs' related?
> erik sear
> 
> : unsubscribe 'meaningless i'm better than you drivel'
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Neil Robertson-Ravo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 12:03 PM
> To: CF-Jobs-Talk
> Subject: Re: Senior CF/StudioMX2004 Developer available
> 
> Sod that.get using Stored Procedures.you want security you get
> them involved.  The example site here is shocking as you get to see
> everything.Server Name, Path to Files, Database name, Table
names...
> 
> uurgh
> 
> If you were a developer of any sort you would have flagged this.
> 
> Jim Campbell wrote:
> 
> >Well, that and judicious use of .
> >
> >- Jim
> >
> >Adam Haskell wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>I wasn't going to say but yeah pretty much...at the very least
> >>everyone should have Enable Robust Exception Information UNCHECKED on
> >>a production server.
> >>
> >>Adam H
> >>
> >>On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 11:40:11 -0600, Kwang Suh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hmm, try this out:
> >>>
> >>>http://www.ihrco.com/properties/index.cfm?Prop_ID=122;
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> > 
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RE: Looking for CF Projects

[Michael Dinowitz]

I'm going to post a project for a community picture gallery. Using that as a
test of both my own ability to describe a project and the iTeamWork system
will make me feel better about letting others near the list code. If
anything goes wrong on the lists, it can have massive consequences.
Actually, there may be a major change to HoF in the next week or three which
will make this all easier. 
Oh, and I ave to write up how I like things to go methodology wise. Each
operation has it's own page. Each logical grouping has it's own folder. Code
should be simple, sparse and tight. Letting people know what I mean by
that'll be fun. :)

  _  


Mike,

Create a project at http://www.iteamwork.com and invite folks to give
you a hand building things.  We're all relatively busy but I'd be more
than willing to provide some spare ticks to helping get a UI in so
"assistant listmasters" can take some of the load off your shoulders.

The only issue will be providing a development environment to work off
of... and I'm sure that won't be a large issue at all!

Hatton

On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 16:53:49 -0400, Michael Dinowitz
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It is moderated in two ways. The first is that I expect people to self
> moderate by following the rules. I have to post them clearer though. The
> second is a function I built into the HoF mailing system (it's all CF
> anyway) that allows me to specify a thread and either ban it or redirect
it
> to another list. This is what I did with the projects thread from CF-Jobs.
> The code is there, what is missing is the moment it takes to set a thread
to
> redirect or ban. I could get a few people to help me, but there's a single
> limitation; I need to write a UI for them to be able to control the
threads.
> I just need some spare time to build admin interfaces for the lists. Well,
> those and advertising interfaces, and a better community image library,
and
> the 'select thread by poster' and and and. It's all about time. :)
> 
> 
> Mike D.
> 
> Just a thought...being that CF-Jobs is not exactly a high volume list
> 
> Why not simply moderate the listsome one posts...goes to you...you let
> it through or not.
> 
> I know that would take a hair more time than it takes you know to keep the
> list going...but as you've seennobody listens...so if you moderate it
> will never get out of hand.  If you deny a posting the poster could simply
> be notified saying their post doesn't meet the reqs of the list.
> 
> So a little re-coding now may keep your stress level down later ;-)
> 
> BTW...a simple rule I live by"People are stupid until proven
> otherwise"...sure helps to lower my expectations and not be surprised when
> idiots make themselves known (not directed at anybody involved in this
> thread in case anyone feels they are being targeted).
> 
> my 2 cents
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> phone: 250.480.0642
> fax: 250.480.1264
> cell: 250.920.8830
> e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> web: www.electricedgesystems.com 
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RE: Looking for CF Projects

[Michael Dinowitz]

It is moderated in two ways. The first is that I expect people to self
moderate by following the rules. I have to post them clearer though. The
second is a function I built into the HoF mailing system (it's all CF
anyway) that allows me to specify a thread and either ban it or redirect it
to another list. This is what I did with the projects thread from CF-Jobs. 
The code is there, what is missing is the moment it takes to set a thread to
redirect or ban. I could get a few people to help me, but there's a single
limitation; I need to write a UI for them to be able to control the threads.
I just need some spare time to build admin interfaces for the lists. Well,
those and advertising interfaces, and a better community image library, and
the 'select thread by poster' and and and. It's all about time. :)

Mike D.

Just a thought...being that CF-Jobs is not exactly a high volume list

Why not simply moderate the listsome one posts...goes to you...you let
it through or not.

I know that would take a hair more time than it takes you know to keep the
list going...but as you've seennobody listens...so if you moderate it
will never get out of hand.  If you deny a posting the poster could simply
be notified saying their post doesn't meet the reqs of the list.

So a little re-coding now may keep your stress level down later ;-)

BTW...a simple rule I live by"People are stupid until proven
otherwise"...sure helps to lower my expectations and not be surprised when
idiots make themselves known (not directed at anybody involved in this
thread in case anyone feels they are being targeted).

my 2 cents

Cheers

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
phone: 250.480.0642
fax: 250.480.1264
cell: 250.920.8830
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
web: www.electricedgesystems.com 
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Re: Looking for CF Projects

[Michael Dinowitz]

This thread on CF-Jobs is now sealed. I will now have to take time out of my busy schedule because people can not follow the list rules.  Let me say this again for those who did not or could not read it the first time. CF-Jobs is for job offers or requests ONLY. No debate. 
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Re: Looking for CF Projects

[Michael Dinowitz]

This thread on CF-Jobs has been redirected to CF-Jobs-Talk. Why? Because there are some here who just can't follow the rules. CF-Jobs is for job posts and job requests. NOT DEBATE!
If you've got a question about a job, ask the poster. If you want to debate something job related, then go to the CF-Jobs-Talk list, the CF-OT list or the CF-Community list.
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Re: Onsite work

[Michael Dinowitz]

When you absolutly, positivly want your workers to kill themselves. 

> The only way I would consider working ONSITE is if first, at the company's
> expense, I could redecorate the entire office exclusively with office decor
> from Despair, Inc. http://www.despair.com

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Re: Mindseye test

[Michael Dinowitz]

That's why I was posting my code to people who sent their code to me. :)
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> hehe
>
> I guess we'll have to wait until some other people chime in comparing their
> results :)
>
> Hope Mindseye have already got all the candidates applications they wanted
> because otherwise they might be a bit peeved that I've posted the source
> code to my solution.
>
> Spike
>
> 
> Stephen Milligan
> Code poet for hire
> http://www.spike.org.uk
>
>
>
>
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Dinowitz
> >Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 9:45 AM
> >To: CF-Jobs-Talk
> >Subject: Re: Mindseye test
> >
> >Hm. My list results are different than yours. I start with the
> >first line while you start with the second:
> >
> >had,for,was,at,that,on,with,but,in,a,it,to,and,of,as
> >
> >was,had,to,for,at,that,be,on,with,but,in,a,it,and,of,as,not,the
> >re,all,they,he,hi
> >s
> >
> >Now you have me doubting my code. :)
> >
> >> ok,
> >>
> >> Here ya go.
> >>
> >> Haven't done any thorough checking for bugs, but it seems to work.
> >>
> >> http://dev.spikefu.homeip.net/mindseye/cfchallenge/
> >>
> >> 
> >> Stephen Milligan
> >> Code poet for hire
> >> http://www.spike.org.uk
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >-Original Message-
> >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil
> >> >Robertson-Ravo [Team Macromedia]
> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 8:14 AM
> >> >To: CF-Jobs-Talk
> >> >Subject: Re: Mindseye test
> >> >
> >> >keep your mind fresh ;-)
> >> >
> >> >Stephen Milligan wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>Can you share the code that caused you to come to that conclusion?
> >> >>
> >> >>In every speed test I've ever done for list vs array the
> >> >array came out
> >> >>faster by a factor of about 2 times.
> >> >>
> >> >>Now you've all got me kinda curious about this mindseye thing so
> >> >>I'll probably give it a go :)
> >> >>
> >> >>Spike
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>Stephen Milligan
> >> >>Code poet for hire
> >> >>http://www.spike.org.uk
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>-Original Message-
> >> >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> >Michael Dinowitz
> >> >>>Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 8:04 AM
> >> >>>To: CF-Jobs-Talk
> >> >>>Subject: Re: Mindseye test
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Actually, I've found through testing that looping over a list is
> >> >>>faster than doing so for an array, especially when you take the
> >> >>>listtoarray() conversion time into account. Also, why not
> >create a
> >> >>>virtual query and do a QofQ rather than using a real table
> >> >and a bulk
> >> >>>upload?
> >> >>>--
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >
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Re: Mindseye test

[Michael Dinowitz]

Hm. My list results are different than yours. I start with the first line while
you start with the second:

had,for,was,at,that,on,with,but,in,a,it,to,and,of,as

was,had,to,for,at,that,be,on,with,but,in,a,it,and,of,as,not,there,all,they,he,hi
s

Now you have me doubting my code. :)

> ok,
>
> Here ya go.
>
> Haven't done any thorough checking for bugs, but it seems to work.
>
> http://dev.spikefu.homeip.net/mindseye/cfchallenge/
>
> 
> Stephen Milligan
> Code poet for hire
> http://www.spike.org.uk
>
>
>
>
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil
> >Robertson-Ravo [Team Macromedia]
> >Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 8:14 AM
> >To: CF-Jobs-Talk
> >Subject: Re: Mindseye test
> >
> >keep your mind fresh ;-)
> >
> >Stephen Milligan wrote:
> >
> >>Can you share the code that caused you to come to that conclusion?
> >>
> >>In every speed test I've ever done for list vs array the
> >array came out
> >>faster by a factor of about 2 times.
> >>
> >>Now you've all got me kinda curious about this mindseye thing so I'll
> >>probably give it a go :)
> >>
> >>Spike
> >>
> >>--------
> >>Stephen Milligan
> >>Code poet for hire
> >>http://www.spike.org.uk
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>-Original Message-
> >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Dinowitz
> >>>Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 8:04 AM
> >>>To: CF-Jobs-Talk
> >>>Subject: Re: Mindseye test
> >>>
> >>>Actually, I've found through testing that looping over a list is
> >>>faster than doing so for an array, especially when you take the
> >>>listtoarray() conversion time into account. Also, why not create a
> >>>virtual query and do a QofQ rather than using a real table
> >and a bulk
> >>>upload?
> >>>--
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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Re: Mindseye test

[Michael Dinowitz]

Wow! I did that a while back. Here's the original thread and a reply:
http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=m:4:26470:133055
http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=m:4:26518:133314
I'm digging up the code to test again as we speak. One thing to remember is that
we're talking tenths of milliseconds here in most cases.
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Re: Mindseye test

[Michael Dinowitz]

I'm searching for it now. I did it a few months back and always meant to post it
to the front of HoF (my not quite blog). I'm searching now and will re-run and
post it.
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> Can you share the code that caused you to come to that conclusion?
>
> In every speed test I've ever done for list vs array the array came out
> faster by a factor of about 2 times.
>
> Now you've all got me kinda curious about this mindseye thing so I'll
> probably give it a go :)
>
> Spike
>
> 
> Stephen Milligan
> Code poet for hire
> http://www.spike.org.uk
>
>
>
>
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Dinowitz
> >Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 8:04 AM
> >To: CF-Jobs-Talk
> >Subject: Re: Mindseye test
> >
> >Actually, I've found through testing that looping over a list
> >is faster than doing so for an array, especially when you take
> >the listtoarray() conversion time into account. Also, why not
> >create a virtual query and do a QofQ rather than using a real
> >table and a bulk upload?
> >--
>
>
>
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Re: Mindseye test

[Michael Dinowitz]

Actually, I've found through testing that looping over a list is faster than
doing so for an array, especially when you take the listtoarray() conversion
time into account. Also, why not create a virtual query and do a QofQ rather
than using a real table and a bulk upload?
--
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House of Fusion
http://www.houseoffusion.com
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>   3. Treat the variable as a list delimited by spaces and zap it with
> ListToArray(). Looping through an array is much faster than looping through
> a list.
>   4. Loop through the array and construct a structure/hash whose keys are
> the words and the values are the total number of appearances in the
> document.
>   5. Loop through the structure and write the result out in a tab-delimited
> file with three columns: filename, word, occurrences.
>   6. Do this for each file
>   7. invoke the bulk loading utility for the database to load each file into
> a table myTable1, by writing java.system.runtime.exec() within cf. (This is
> going to be faster than an insert statement for each word).
>   9. Delete from myTable where occurrences > 20;
>   10. Delete from myTable where word in (SELECT word from myTable2 group by
> word having count(*) = 1); /*some databases won't let you run this statement
> */
>   11. SELECT * from myTable2 order by occurrences, word;
>
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Mindseye test

[Michael Dinowitz]

Two weeks or so back Raymond posted a job offer from the company he worked with
that included a test. If anyone took that test, I'd like to trade solutions so I
can see how others solved the problem.
 http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=m:13:2261:3015
Thanks
--
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Re: Recent Posts from CFJOBS

[Michael Dinowitz]

Well, if its a bot then it might have problems finding the job location. If
not, well

> I agree, and it'd be nice if we could get a synopsis of the type (FT or
> Contract) and type of contract on there as well.
>
> Hatton
>
>
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>
> From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 4:38 PM
> To: CF-Jobs-Talk
> Subject: Recent Posts from CFJOBS
>
>
> Looks like someone's created a robot to post jobs to the list.  Not a bad
> idea IMHO - as long as they're not repeats.  One suggestion - adding the
> location in the subject line of all the messages would be very usefull for
> people looking for jobs near them.  I see that locations are in some of
> them, but not all...
>
> -Cameron
>
> -
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