RE: Fusebox [CF-Talk]

2000-09-22 Thread Christopher Olive, CIO

well, C++ was a bastardized OO programming language in the first place.  it
was made to be backwardly compatible with ANSI C, so they had to allow some
really funky crap into it.

i'm speaking from a Java standpoint.  it's a BD language, but a really good
teacher of OO principles.

your first paragraph still didn't address my issue.  if you're subclassing
something that has functions you "won't need", you shouldn't be subclassing
it in the first place.  and i never mentioned "saving space" in my argument.

game programmers excel at pushing as many instructions into as small a space
as possible.  optimized code is NOT the "best" code, though.  i have nothing
but respect for those folks that can cram a REALLY good game onto a
cartridge.  however, they do not epitomize the "best programmers out there".

chris olive, cio
cresco technologies
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-Original Message-
From: Scott, Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 8:49 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Fusebox [CF-Talk]


Forgive me if I am wrong, but when you create a structure in C++, you have
inherited bits of code that also go with this structure, when I include this
into many files all code gets compiled even all those attached to these
structures. Now if I don't need a certain function of this class then it
still gets compiled regardless, so how can this be saving space.

Because games programmers are the best programmers out there, they deal with
situations on a better level than any other programmer I have known. If we
talk about consoles, we are talking about very limiting memory/space to
write a game in. So these guyts know how to save space and optimise code
better than anyone else in the real world. And there isn't many that have
not achieved the same things a ms Application can do that is not in a games
system.

I used to program in 6502,6510, z80 and when things looked like moving a
little faster I got into C, however I could never really grasp the concept
of C++ when it was first introduced so I never really bothered to learn it.

I recall an Operating System that had more functionality than Windows 3.11
or windows 95, and fitted onto a 1megabit rom. Windows can't claim that now
can it, because of OO code becomes bigger by default:-)


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-Original Message-
From: Christopher Olive, CIO [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 22 September 2000 10:59
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Fusebox [CF-Talk]


OO is a good idea.  in its place.

i fail to see how you can discount OO based on what "games developer"s say.
they're not the only ones that code.

i'd also be curious to see some evidence/support for your size/speed
argument.  if you are subclassing objects that have methods or properties
that the subclass doesn't need, you should not be subclassing them.  that's
an example of crappy coding technique, not an inherent flaw in a programming
methodology.

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-Original Message-
From: Scott, Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 7:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Fusebox [CF-Talk]


Why are people so hell bent on OO, lets face it OO seems to be a good idea.
But good ideas cost us in the long run. Lets look at c++ for instance,
before c++ was introduced programs where smaller memeory wasn't and issue
and hard drive space either was not an issue. Then somwhere along the lines
we began coding with OO, then we needed 10 times as much memory and now we
need thousands more hardrive space.

Ask a games developer what the prefer and you will find that they opt out of
oo big time, remember that when you inheret a class you inherit everything
about that class everytime you need it. So this means that the code runs
slower becuase it has more work to do, it becomes larger because it has more
code that is compiled that is maybe not needed.

With the web, we do not need OO and oo is not for the web.



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-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 21 September 2000 08:54
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Fusebox [CF-Talk]


For one the more traditional development method
Like Fusebox, is a bit archaic, and it works but
(now again) depending on who you talk to, OO is
the wave of the future and Fusebox is definately
NOT OO.. So it just depends on what you like,
My opinon is object oriented programming done
properly, and iwth the proper environment (think
Java) It is a dream

Jeremy Allen
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-Original Message-
From: Paul Sizemore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 3:08 PM
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Subject: RE: Fusebox [CF-Talk]


I agree that we now need to turn this to "examples that work for me."

I am in the process of writing a "Development 

Re: Template not found. Which template?

2000-09-22 Thread Chris Lott

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Try cftry and cfcatch tags there is a way to put the stack onto
the page
  that will show the last page called

Isn't this fixed in the latest 4.5.1 service pack? I seem to recall
that error information now indicates the template being called if the
error was in an included file... or maybe I was just happily
dreaming...

c
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RE: CFDirectory

2000-09-22 Thread Mark Warrick

While outputing the results, use the following conditional logic:

cfif size neq 0
#name#
/cfif

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 -Original Message-
 From: W Luke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 3:55 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: CFDirectory
 
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm returning a directory listing using:
 
 cfdirectory action="list" directory="#filedir#" name="dnsdir"
 
 How can I not display the parent Directories?  I only want a listing of
 filenames (#name# I'm using), not the directories.
 
 TIA
 
 Will
 
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RE: Template not found. Which template?

2000-09-22 Thread Peter Theobald

How would it be clear if I click on a link that loaded a handler template (index.cfm) 
that itself includes 30 other templates?

I suppose I could put cftry and cfcatch around the entire file and print more 
information myself. But the last time I tried that the error information I found was 
exactly the same as what CF printed by default. No more no less.

At 05:08 PM 9/22/00 +1100, Scott, Andrew wrote:
Try cftry and cfcatch tags there is a way to put the stack onto the page
that will show the last page called, then it would be a matter of that.
However if you clicked on a link or something then it would beclear that
this template would be the culprit, basic QA would solve this fairly
quickly:-)

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Subject: Template not found. Which template?


I have a "FuseBox-like" structure with a lot of template files including other 
template files.
Now I get the error: Template not found. But WHICH template isn't found?! It could be 
any one of about 30 templates!

Why on Earth didn't Allaire print the NAME of the template you are trying to include?
How can I find out?



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Re: Template not found. Which template?

2000-09-22 Thread Peter Theobald

Is that service pack available for Linux?
Ill check. I may not have it...

At 10:42 PM 9/21/00 -0800, Chris Lott wrote:
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Try cftry and cfcatch tags there is a way to put the stack onto
the page
  that will show the last page called

Isn't this fixed in the latest 4.5.1 service pack? I seem to recall
that error information now indicates the template being called if the
error was in an included file... or maybe I was just happily
dreaming...

c
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RE: Line count of 1600 files?

2000-09-22 Thread Peter Theobald

Many years ago I worked for a large Japanese Multinational and my manager, who was 
(is) very respected there actually told us once "a good programmer is known by the 
quantity of code he generates."
They had all kinds of source code line-counts and even put up graphs showing which 
programmer is "best" at any given time. It got so ridiculous that when talk of bonuses 
tied to these metrics started floating, we all were in a race to see who could 
generate the most bloated code. None of us hid this fact from the manager, we laughed 
about it thinking finally they would see how silly this metric was. Nope. He loved it 
and reported back to Tokyo that we were really getting into the company policies.

Needless to say, no decent programmers stayed there long.

At 11:49 PM 9/21/00 -0700, Mark Warrick wrote:
I see a few others have come up with some good solutions for you. (whew)

Hopefully I don't sound fecitious for asking this, but WHY?  You're not being paid by 
the line, are you? 

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 -Original Message-
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 Subject: Line count of 1600 files?
 
 
 My supervisor would like a line count of all CF code in our 
 project.  That's 1,603 files - what's a reasonable way of getting 
 a line count, or something similar?
 
 thanks,
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RE: Template not found. Which template?

2000-09-22 Thread Mark Warrick

Peter - here's a clue to help you out:

In each file you create, add an HTML comment line identifying the filename at the 
beginning and ending point of the file.  (!-- begin filename.cfm ---)  That way, 
when an error occurs, you can view the source and see which file was last processed 
before the error occured.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Theobald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 12:05 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Template not found. Which template?
 
 
 How would it be clear if I click on a link that loaded a handler 
 template (index.cfm) that itself includes 30 other templates?
 
 I suppose I could put cftry and cfcatch around the entire 
 file and print more information myself. But the last time I tried 
 that the error information I found was exactly the same as what 
 CF printed by default. No more no less.
 
 At 05:08 PM 9/22/00 +1100, Scott, Andrew wrote:
 Try cftry and cfcatch tags there is a way to put the stack 
 onto the page
 that will show the last page called, then it would be a matter of that.
 However if you clicked on a link or something then it would beclear that
 this template would be the culprit, basic QA would solve this fairly
 quickly:-)
 
 regards
 
 Andrew Scott
 ANZ eCommerce Centre
 * Ph 9273 0693  
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Theobald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 22 September 2000 16:30
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Template not found. Which template?
 
 
 I have a "FuseBox-like" structure with a lot of template files 
 including other template files.
 Now I get the error: Template not found. But WHICH template 
 isn't found?! It could be any one of about 30 templates!
 
 Why on Earth didn't Allaire print the NAME of the template you 
 are trying to include?
 How can I find out?
 
 
 
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nntp test sites

2000-09-22 Thread lsellers

Query.
Are there any (cf friendly) nntp sites around that allow test posts?

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RE: Cold Fusion and Wireless Devices

2000-09-22 Thread DeVoil, Nick


  Someone asked me about writing Cold Fusion for wireless devices. 

Jeff

http://www.allaire.com/developer/TechnologyReference/wap.cfm

http://wap.colorline.no/wap-faq/ 

Also houseoffusion have a CF-Wap list.

HTH
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Re: Verity Vs SQL

2000-09-22 Thread Paul Hastings

 other fields in the table.  The question is, do I do this search using an
SP
 directly on the table or do I suck the whole data set into a verity
 collection and use this.  Speed is obviously an issue.

if you also need to return the rest of the row then maybe sql server's full
text indexing might be more appropriate. it would have been nice to start
filling that table with it in place but whether you use it or verity you
will take
a hit to index this.  add a TIMESTAMP column if this table's data will
change so you can do granular incremental  indexing.

we've found sql server full text indexing to beat verity six ways to sunday
and its 2-3 times faster than WHERE clauses with LIKE and wildcards
and its basically "free" if you already own sql server.


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RE: SQL Select Max + a column

2000-09-22 Thread DeVoil, Nick

Mark
How about sth like

SELECT ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE, ENC_TOY_IMAGE_LINK_TEXT
FROM   ENC_TOY_IMAGE
WHERE  ID_ENC_TOY = 
  (SELECT max(ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE)
   FROM ENC_TOY_IMAGE
   WHERE ID_ENC_TOY = #ID_ENC_TOY#)

Nick

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Subject: SQL Select Max + a column


I'm trying to do this:

SELECT ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE, ENC_TOY_IMAGE_LINK_TEXT
FROM ENC_TOY_IMAGE
WHERE ID_ENC_TOY = #ID_ENC_TOY#

But I want the max ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE row.

I've tried:

SELECT max (ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE) as maxid, ENC_TOY_IMAGE_LINK_TEXT
FROM ENC_TOY_IMAGE
WHERE ID_ENC_TOY = #ID_ENC_TOY#

But I get an aggregate error.

If I leave off the extra column it works fine, but of course then I'd have
to run another query to get the remaining info I need.

I could also select all records and then order them in descending order by
ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE, but that seems like an awful waste of processor power.

Anyone know how to do this the right way?

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RE: SQL Select Max + a column

2000-09-22 Thread Mark Warrick

Nice try.  But nope.

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 -Original Message-
 From: DeVoil, Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 1:33 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: SQL Select Max + a column
 
 
 Mark
 How about sth like
 
 SELECT ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE, ENC_TOY_IMAGE_LINK_TEXT
 FROM   ENC_TOY_IMAGE
 WHERE  ID_ENC_TOY = 
   (SELECT max(ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE)
FROM ENC_TOY_IMAGE
WHERE ID_ENC_TOY = #ID_ENC_TOY#)
 
 Nick
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Warrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:28 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: SQL Select Max + a column
 
 
 I'm trying to do this:
 
   SELECT ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE, ENC_TOY_IMAGE_LINK_TEXT
   FROM ENC_TOY_IMAGE
   WHERE ID_ENC_TOY = #ID_ENC_TOY#
 
 But I want the max ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE row.
 
 I've tried:
 
   SELECT max (ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE) as maxid, ENC_TOY_IMAGE_LINK_TEXT
   FROM ENC_TOY_IMAGE
   WHERE ID_ENC_TOY = #ID_ENC_TOY#
 
 But I get an aggregate error.
 
 If I leave off the extra column it works fine, but of course then I'd have
 to run another query to get the remaining info I need.
 
 I could also select all records and then order them in descending order by
 ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE, but that seems like an awful waste of processor power.
 
 Anyone know how to do this the right way?
 
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Re: AOL and CF sites [CF-Talk]

2000-09-22 Thread Tage Widsell

Hi Richard,

I've had the same problem and i have tried every solution in the book (esp
the ones suggested by AOL) but it didn't help very much. Recently, Rob
Keniger, a member on this list, suggested a simple but working solution:
Just add a random URL param to every link that leads to a dynamic page. This
will force the AOL caching server to reload the page instead of caching it.


Put this code in the application.cfm file:

cfset token="nc=#randrange(1,99)#"


And any link or form tag should look something like this:
cfoutput
a href="newpage.cfm?#token#"
/cfoutput

It works like a charm.

/Tage Widsell
Webmaster
Propellerhead Software


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To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: AOL and CF sites [CF-Talk]
Date: tor 21 sep 2000 00.17


 All,

 I have an paid interactive site, all CF with database queries and tests,  it
 seems that people using AOL keep getting bumped off, and other glitches seem
 to happen.  Enough that it causes extreme frustration.  Even then the
 customer won't move to a regular ISP.  The question is what is that AOL does
 in their world that causes so much grief in mine?  Any insight?  Is this
 resolveable?  Are AOL and CF incompatible?

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RE: SQL Select Max + a column

2000-09-22 Thread DeVoil, Nick

 "nope"

Now that's what I call a meaningful error message ;-)

That type of query should work but I'm not sure what your
primary key is on that table. That's what needs to be in
lines 3 and 4.

Nick


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To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: SQL Select Max + a column


Nice try.  But nope.

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 -Original Message-
 From: DeVoil, Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 1:33 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: SQL Select Max + a column
 
 
 Mark
 How about sth like
 
 SELECT ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE, ENC_TOY_IMAGE_LINK_TEXT
 FROM   ENC_TOY_IMAGE
 WHERE  ID_ENC_TOY = 
   (SELECT max(ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE)
FROM ENC_TOY_IMAGE
WHERE ID_ENC_TOY = #ID_ENC_TOY#)
 
 Nick
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Warrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:28 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: SQL Select Max + a column
 
 
 I'm trying to do this:
 
   SELECT ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE, ENC_TOY_IMAGE_LINK_TEXT
   FROM ENC_TOY_IMAGE
   WHERE ID_ENC_TOY = #ID_ENC_TOY#
 
 But I want the max ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE row.
 
 I've tried:
 
   SELECT max (ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE) as maxid, ENC_TOY_IMAGE_LINK_TEXT
   FROM ENC_TOY_IMAGE
   WHERE ID_ENC_TOY = #ID_ENC_TOY#
 
 But I get an aggregate error.
 
 If I leave off the extra column it works fine, but of course then I'd have
 to run another query to get the remaining info I need.
 
 I could also select all records and then order them in descending order by
 ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE, but that seems like an awful waste of processor power.
 
 Anyone know how to do this the right way?
 


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RE: SQL Select Max + a column

2000-09-22 Thread DeVoil, Nick

In other words I think line 3 should have
ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE not ID_ENC_TOY
 
-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:46 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: SQL Select Max + a column


 "nope"

Now that's what I call a meaningful error message ;-)

That type of query should work but I'm not sure what your
primary key is on that table. That's what needs to be in
lines 3 and 4.

Nick


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To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: SQL Select Max + a column


Nice try.  But nope.

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 -Original Message-
 From: DeVoil, Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 1:33 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: SQL Select Max + a column
 
 
 Mark
 How about sth like
 
 SELECT ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE, ENC_TOY_IMAGE_LINK_TEXT
 FROM   ENC_TOY_IMAGE
 WHERE  ID_ENC_TOY = 
   (SELECT max(ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE)
FROM ENC_TOY_IMAGE
WHERE ID_ENC_TOY = #ID_ENC_TOY#)
 
 Nick
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Warrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:28 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: SQL Select Max + a column
 
 
 I'm trying to do this:
 
   SELECT ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE, ENC_TOY_IMAGE_LINK_TEXT
   FROM ENC_TOY_IMAGE
   WHERE ID_ENC_TOY = #ID_ENC_TOY#
 
 But I want the max ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE row.
 
 I've tried:
 
   SELECT max (ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE) as maxid, ENC_TOY_IMAGE_LINK_TEXT
   FROM ENC_TOY_IMAGE
   WHERE ID_ENC_TOY = #ID_ENC_TOY#
 
 But I get an aggregate error.
 
 If I leave off the extra column it works fine, but of course then I'd have
 to run another query to get the remaining info I need.
 
 I could also select all records and then order them in descending order by
 ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE, but that seems like an awful waste of processor power.
 
 Anyone know how to do this the right way?
 


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RE: SQL Select Max + a column

2000-09-22 Thread Mark Warrick

Sorry for the lack of detail.

The primary key is ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE.  The error is that it returns no records at all.  
But that's o.k. don't spend too much time banging your head on it.  I'll stick with 2 
queries if I have to.

---mark

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 -Original Message-
 From: DeVoil, Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 1:46 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: SQL Select Max + a column
 
 
  "nope"
 
 Now that's what I call a meaningful error message ;-)
 
 That type of query should work but I'm not sure what your
 primary key is on that table. That's what needs to be in
 lines 3 and 4.
 
 Nick
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Warrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:40 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: SQL Select Max + a column
 
 
 Nice try.  But nope.
 
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  -Original Message-
  From: DeVoil, Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 1:33 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: SQL Select Max + a column
  
  
  Mark
  How about sth like
  
  SELECT ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE, ENC_TOY_IMAGE_LINK_TEXT
  FROM   ENC_TOY_IMAGE
  WHERE  ID_ENC_TOY = 
(SELECT max(ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE)
 FROM ENC_TOY_IMAGE
 WHERE ID_ENC_TOY = #ID_ENC_TOY#)
  
  Nick
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Mark Warrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:28 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: SQL Select Max + a column
  
  
  I'm trying to do this:
  
  SELECT ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE, ENC_TOY_IMAGE_LINK_TEXT
  FROM ENC_TOY_IMAGE
  WHERE ID_ENC_TOY = #ID_ENC_TOY#
  
  But I want the max ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE row.
  
  I've tried:
  
  SELECT max (ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE) as maxid, ENC_TOY_IMAGE_LINK_TEXT
  FROM ENC_TOY_IMAGE
  WHERE ID_ENC_TOY = #ID_ENC_TOY#
  
  But I get an aggregate error.
  
  If I leave off the extra column it works fine, but of course 
 then I'd have
  to run another query to get the remaining info I need.
  
  I could also select all records and then order them in 
 descending order by
  ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE, but that seems like an awful waste of processor power.
  
  Anyone know how to do this the right way?
  
 
 
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[RESOLVED] RE: SQL Select Max + a column

2000-09-22 Thread Mark Warrick

OK That worked.  THANK YOU

By the way, I never really thought about this, but wouldn't it be nice if when you're 
scanning through the messages of this list considering a response if you knew whether 
or not the problem was resolved?

I'm not suggesting this should be come a STANDARD or anything (oh no no no no), but it 
would be helpful to send a message to the list with the pre-pended subject line of 
"RESOLVED" if you're the person who needed help and your problem was solved. (like I 
just did)

---mark

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 -Original Message-
 From: DeVoil, Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 1:49 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: SQL Select Max + a column
 
 
 In other words I think line 3 should have
 ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE not ID_ENC_TOY
  
 -Original Message-
 From: DeVoil, Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:46 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: SQL Select Max + a column
 
 
  "nope"
 
 Now that's what I call a meaningful error message ;-)
 
 That type of query should work but I'm not sure what your
 primary key is on that table. That's what needs to be in
 lines 3 and 4.
 
 Nick
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Warrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:40 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: SQL Select Max + a column
 
 
 Nice try.  But nope.
 
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  -Original Message-
  From: DeVoil, Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 1:33 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: SQL Select Max + a column
  
  
  Mark
  How about sth like
  
  SELECT ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE, ENC_TOY_IMAGE_LINK_TEXT
  FROM   ENC_TOY_IMAGE
  WHERE  ID_ENC_TOY = 
(SELECT max(ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE)
 FROM ENC_TOY_IMAGE
 WHERE ID_ENC_TOY = #ID_ENC_TOY#)
  
  Nick
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Mark Warrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:28 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: SQL Select Max + a column
  
  
  I'm trying to do this:
  
  SELECT ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE, ENC_TOY_IMAGE_LINK_TEXT
  FROM ENC_TOY_IMAGE
  WHERE ID_ENC_TOY = #ID_ENC_TOY#
  
  But I want the max ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE row.
  
  I've tried:
  
  SELECT max (ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE) as maxid, ENC_TOY_IMAGE_LINK_TEXT
  FROM ENC_TOY_IMAGE
  WHERE ID_ENC_TOY = #ID_ENC_TOY#
  
  But I get an aggregate error.
  
  If I leave off the extra column it works fine, but of course 
 then I'd have
  to run another query to get the remaining info I need.
  
  I could also select all records and then order them in 
 descending order by
  ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE, but that seems like an awful waste of processor power.
  
  Anyone know how to do this the right way?
  
 
 
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Re: Ok, What is Fusebox?-- Reply to Peter

2000-09-22 Thread Sean Renet

*WHY* is it good that I can call any template from the browser or as a
module?

First off this is mis-stated. One of the appealing points of fusebox is that
you can lock down all of those function and object tags (whoops did I say
objects?) with only 3 lines of code in your application.cfm.  That is, if
the request is not coming from index.cfm,  then send them to index.cfm. So
you can htr or ::DATA$ me all you want and all you are going to see is an
index page which paths to a bunch of templates/modules that you are never
going to access unless you do it the way my logic provides. By this, I mean
if you see a tag call or path to some template, you are never going to be
able to call that template by itself.  So if you figure out that my order
processing is done on act_process_order.cfm, and you try calling that
template by itself through the browser with a .htr or ::DATA$,
application.cfm is going to see that the request is not coming from
index.cfm and send you to the front of my website or wherever it is that I
choose to send you. So its not "You can call any template from a browser",
rather it prohibits this. This, is in fact a different means of your current
goal.  Its just easier to implement.  Now if you have the luxury of setting
a client up on their own box, you can set directory security up in such a
manner that this is not necessary.  However, I have never had a client
complain about too much security. As well, this offers you a simple inherent
security measure for clients that rest on shared servers where sandbox or
any other sort of directory security is not offered.  It has been my
personal experience that most ISP's will want you on a dedicated or managed
server if you want to start playing with directory permissions. Now you can
roll your eyes all you want, but small to medium web application solutions
that rest on shared servers are cash cows.  Most of those clients want the
same solutions (e.g.., ecommerce, client login, administration, data
harvesting, message boards et al.). If you have each of these elements set
up as individual modules, then building sites for these clients can be done
by the least skilled of your programming staff fast and easy. All they need
to do is take a module's fuseactions, throw them into a case on your switch
and either call the module as a tag or simple path to its directory's
index.cfm.  So the turn over rate for these clients is amazing.

My current business is set up just like a record company. Record company's
exist, believe it or not, not on Korn or Brittany Spears or "insert 5 member
boy band here".  They exist on midline product.  That is their catalog. You
see, you sign 10 Brittany Spears before you get Brittany Spears, and pray to
god that Brittany Spears pays for the money you invested in the other 9 that
shipped gold and came back platinum. (This is a joke meaning you shipped
500,000 records and 1,000,000 were returned). If a record company tried to
rest solely on this reckoning they would be out of business faster than the
Dot Gones. So to subsidize themselves, they repackage catalog. For example,
wherein I am not a Hendrix fan so I do not know for certain, my bet is that
every Hendrix compilation or "best of" has the same recurring 4-5 songs and
I will go one step further and bet the publishing of those songs is
administered thru Universal/MCA (Hendrix's label). So how does this apply to
programming?  Well you generally have 1 or 2 major clients. By major I mean
financially. Now you hope that these clients meet the financial milestones
outlined in your contract. Generally they do, but what if they don't?  What
if wallstreet says to your client "umm we just realize you are overvalued so
we are attaching cement shoes to your stock"  Do you fire your staff or ask
them to work for free until that client "in the works" comes through? No,
you rest safely in the comfort of the cash all the small to medium clients
(your midline product) generated. Which, by the way, were programmed by your
interns that simply plugged in modules to a fusebox. Not to mention your
royalty on the data harvesting of these clients (the publishing).

Secondly, contrary to what Jeremy thinks is possible, all my data and logic
is object oriented.  So, if I have a client that decides months after
production that they want a message board, then I just take my message board
module/object and plug it in to the fusebox.  Recently I had a manufacturer
that originally just wanted to display products with a search engine
pointing the user to retail outlets and or websites that sold their brands.
After months of collecting data on the users and where they were routed I
was able to convince the client to a) harvest their data for resale to other
manufacturers and b) set up shop on the web.  The design implementation for
the module took about 3-4 weeks as design using does at its fastest case,
and the programming took about a day and a half. The only reason programming
took so long, is 

RE: Image validation

2000-09-22 Thread Juan Andres Alvarez Valenzuela

by the way, I have a problem with cf_imagesize tag.
I test cf_imagesize and everything was ok but it return me wrong images
sizes with some image files.

anyone have the same problem ?


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Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 6:27 PM
Subject: RE: Image validation


I could use that as CF_ImageSize tag well.

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 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 1:20 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Image validation


 Nick,

 Can you send the tag to me? I really need that, thanks! ;))

 Roger
 - Original Message -
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 Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 4:06 PM
 Subject: RE: Image validation


  Roger
  Russ Michaels very kindly sent me CF_ImageSize which does exactly that,
 I'm
  not sure if it's in the gallery. If not, let me know I could
 send it on to
  you assuming Russ doesn't mind.
  Nick
 
  -Original Message-
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  Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 6:42 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Image validation
 
 
  Hi,
 
  Apparently I allow user to upload their image files into my server,
 however
  I wish to check their image width and height, how do I go about
 doing that
 ?
 
  Thanks.
  Roger
 
 
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Re: ImageManipulation with Cold Fusion

2000-09-22 Thread JustinMacCarthy

Look at
http://devex.allaire.com/developer/gallery/SearchResults.cfm?keywords=jpeg+t
extsearch=search



~Justin MacCarthy



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Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 1:13 AM
Subject: RE: ImageManipulation with Cold Fusion


 You can do this using java CFXs.
 Allaire has an example that does just what you want in their CFX_J 1.0
 download.

 P.

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 perhaps change text in a pre-built gif file or a psd (Photoshop Layered)
 file???

 I looked at Jasc ImageRobot, but it doesn't support text changes.

 Thanks!

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RE: [CF-Talk] ideas for project management apps

2000-09-22 Thread Stewart McGowan

I'll post them after i've taken the client specific stuff out and when i can
finally get my nose to stop running. Onproject is a pretty cool product
though, and Mr Reynolds @ Heinz as a Tesco supplier you may be seeing a lot
of it anyway. :)

Regards

Stew
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RE: Exam

2000-09-22 Thread Reynolds, Adam

Study rulestell me more!

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 It's not the last night for all of us.  Can you share your study rules???
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  Broad topics.
  Error handling, data validation, state management.
  If this wasn't the last night, I'd give you the study rules that I gave
 the
  developers over here at CA.
 
   TO ANYONE WHO HAS TAKEN THE CF EXAM:
  
   Tonight is the last night I can study for the Allaire CF certification
   exam.  Is there any area that you recommend I concentrate on tonight?
  
   THANKS!
  
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RE: nntp test sites

2000-09-22 Thread Stewart McGowan

What do u want to do? I have one you can play with over the weekend

Stew

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Query.
Are there any (cf friendly) nntp sites around that allow test posts?

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Re: nntp test sites

2000-09-22 Thread Howie Hamlin

Hmmm...is this a hint about something you're working on...a new tag,
perhaps? g

Anyway, you can look here:

http://freenews.maxbaud.net/

Regards,

Howie

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 Query.
 Are there any (cf friendly) nntp sites around that allow test posts?

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CFFILE Errors

2000-09-22 Thread Paul Johnston

HELP!

We are trying to create a file for downloading from a variable. This is the
error we're getting.  I have tried permissions on the machine (NT 4), and
also
tried to check the web server (IIS 4) permissions etc.  No Luck.


Error Diagnostic Information
ErrorType:UNKNOWN
Message: Error processing CFFILE
Details: Error attempting to write data to target file
'E:\shotstest\web\admin\customlistfiles\downloadusers124940.txt'.

Error: A file could not be located.

The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of
(CFFILE), occupying document position (94:1) to (94:73) in the template file
E:\SHOTSTEST\WEB\ADMIN\DOWNLOADUSERS2-I.CFM.


Anyone got a clue what could be happening? It doesn't matter what text
string we're trying to put into the file, it just doesn't work.  THe CFFILE
tag is on in the administrator. The file system has everyone Full Control
(until we figure it out).

Is there a limit on filename size or something?

Any help appreciated.

Paul


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Webtrends problems

2000-09-22 Thread Iztok Polanic

Hi!

We are having some minor difficulties with Webtrends.

1. The graphs that Webtrends makes are not readable. We change some settings
(from .gif - .jpg) but it doesn't help. If I compare our graphs with some
others then our graphs look like s***.

2. On General Stastic page there is a fieled with "Home Page Visits" os
something like that. And we have there NA. How come?

3. Were can I get a great tutorial on Webtrends options and also on report
readings?

Bye,

Iztok

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2nd Conference

2000-09-22 Thread Iztok Polanic

Hi!

We received (some time ago) a notice from Allaire, that they will host the
2nd Developer Conference in Washington D.C.  This conference is great ( I
was at the 1st conference). But to my surprise the entrance fee is $899 (or
$799 if you register before July or something). THAT'S TOO EXPENSIVE if you
ask me!!! If you are from Europe, then you can't come, except if you have a
lot of money (entrace fee + plane tickets + hotel + spending money). Am I
missing something?

Bye,

Iztok

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RE: CFSPOT Exam

2000-09-22 Thread David E. Crawford

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DC

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  Ok I just took the CFSpot 4.0 fundamentals exam and what does
everyone
  think the answer to this is. What is the name of the scope qualifier used
  within a Custom Tag to refer to the parameters passed to the Custom Tag?
I
  say it's caller, checked a couple tags and they refer to it as caller, but
  what is the real answer if it isn't that?



  Bob Everland

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Allaire Forums

2000-09-22 Thread Smith, Melanie

We're looking for a quick and dirty discussion forum/bulletin board
application and have downloaded Allaire Forums.  YIKES...  It seems a little
error prone, example: we added a new user, registered, etc. then it tells us
it will be sending us an email notification and then it gives us a nice big
fat error message.  The only user that we can get working is the
administrator - it works but is excruciatingly slow (almost to the point
where we thought it had hung on us).  Would upgrading it to SQL Server help
or does it need a super-high powered server to work adequately?  I've found
that posting messages on the Allaire Forum itself can sometimes be a trial
in patience and I'm sure they know what they're doing so maybe this product
just isn't too hot.  Anyone have any suggestions for other CF-based
forum/bulletin boards?  

Thanks much,
Melanie


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Re: 2nd Conference

2000-09-22 Thread Kevin Schmidt

No you are not mssing anything. It means if you can't afford it you can't
go.  That is a fact of life. Deal with it. I am coming from Michigan and
still had to pay for airfare, entrance fee, car rental, hotel, spending
money too...
- Original Message -
From: "Iztok Polanic" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 7:57 AM
Subject: 2nd Conference


 Hi!

 We received (some time ago) a notice from Allaire, that they will host the
 2nd Developer Conference in Washington D.C.  This conference is great ( I
 was at the 1st conference). But to my surprise the entrance fee is $899
(or
 $799 if you register before July or something). THAT'S TOO EXPENSIVE if
you
 ask me!!! If you are from Europe, then you can't come, except if you have
a
 lot of money (entrace fee + plane tickets + hotel + spending money). Am I
 missing something?

 Bye,

 Iztok

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Re: 2nd Conference

2000-09-22 Thread Howie Hamlin

I don't think that the fee is unreasonable for a three day conference which
includes hands-on training.  There are lots of fees that Allaire has to
pay - the hotel (for conference space), their personnel to be at the
conference, etc...

Howie

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From: "Iztok Polanic" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 8:57 AM
Subject: 2nd Conference


 Hi!

 We received (some time ago) a notice from Allaire, that they will host the
 2nd Developer Conference in Washington D.C.  This conference is great ( I
 was at the 1st conference). But to my surprise the entrance fee is $899
(or
 $799 if you register before July or something). THAT'S TOO EXPENSIVE if
you
 ask me!!! If you are from Europe, then you can't come, except if you have
a
 lot of money (entrace fee + plane tickets + hotel + spending money). Am I
 missing something?

 Bye,

 Iztok

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Re: QUESTION: CFMAIL and CFLOOP

2000-09-22 Thread Cfmarksport

I feel really silly, but I finally figured it out...

I had a query attribute in the CFMAIL tag.  Once that was removed it worked 
like a charm!  So much to learn LOL

:-)
Oriole
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Re: Allaire Forums

2000-09-22 Thread Adrian Cooper


- Original Message -
From: "Smith, Melanie" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 2:06 PM


 We're looking for a quick and dirty discussion forum/bulletin board
 application and have downloaded Allaire Forums.  YIKES...  It seems a little
 error prone, example: we added a new user, registered, etc. then it tells us
 it will be sending us an email notification and then it gives us a nice big
 fat error message.  The only user that we can get working is the
 administrator - it works but is excruciatingly slow (almost to the point
 where we thought it had hung on us).  Would upgrading it to SQL Server help

I am running Forums 2.06 on a very low powered development server with SQL
Server, with no problems at all. There is a Verity problem with the default
install, which needs a manual workaround.

Without trying to cause a flame war here - there is no way I would consider
running any Internet facing server with Access, although for local Intranet's it
might be OK.

Adrian Cooper.


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Re: 2nd Conference

2000-09-22 Thread JustinMacCarthy

in addition the $899 dosen't even cover Allaires cost for holding this
event


~Justin

 No you are not mssing anything. It means if you can't afford it you can't
 go.  That is a fact of life. Deal with it. I am coming from Michigan and
 still had to pay for airfare, entrance fee, car rental, hotel, spending
 money too...
 - Original Message -
 From: "Iztok Polanic" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 7:57 AM
 Subject: 2nd Conference


  Hi!
 
  We received (some time ago) a notice from Allaire, that they will host
the
  2nd Developer Conference in Washington D.C.  This conference is great
 I
  was at the 1st conference). But to my surprise the entrance fee is $899
 (or
  $799 if you register before July or something). THAT'S TOO EXPENSIVE if
 you
  ask me!!! If you are from Europe, then you can't come, except if you
have
 a
  lot of money (entrace fee + plane tickets + hotel + spending money). Am
I
  missing something?
 
  Bye,
 
  Iztok
 

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RE: SQL Select Max + a column

2000-09-22 Thread David E. Crawford

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SQL Select Max + a column

How about:

SELECT ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE, ENC_TOY_IMAGE_LINK_TEXT
FROM ENC_TOY_IMAGE
WHERE ID_ENC_TOY = #ID_ENC_TOY#  GROUP BY ENC_TOY_IMAGE,
ENC_TOY_IMAGE_LINK_TEXT



DC

  -Original Message-
  From: Mark Warrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 08:28
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: SQL Select Max + a column


  I'm trying to do this:

  SELECT ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE, ENC_TOY_IMAGE_LINK_TEXT
  FROM ENC_TOY_IMAGE
  WHERE ID_ENC_TOY = #ID_ENC_TOY#

  But I want the max ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE row.

  I've tried:

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  But I get an aggregate error.

  If I leave off the extra column it works fine, but of course then I'd have
to run another query to get the remaining info I need.

  I could also select all records and then order them in descending order by
ID_ENC_TOY_IMAGE, but that seems like an awful waste of processor power.

  Anyone know how to do this the right way?

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Re: Custom Tag CD [CF-Talk]

2000-09-22 Thread Christopher S Martin

I would certainly be interested
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Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 23:17
Subject: RE: Custom Tag CD [CF-Talk]


 I would be intrested as well.

 -Original Message-
 From: Don Cuniff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 5:47 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Custom Tag CD [CF-Talk]


 Definitely has value ... keep us posted.
 - Original Message -
 From: "Marius Milosav" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 8:24 PM
 Subject: Re: Custom Tag CD [CF-Talk]


  Where do we send the money?
 
  Marius Milosav
  www.scorpiosoft.com
  Virtual Help Desk Demo (VHD)
  www.scorpiosoft.com/vhd/login.cfm
   -Original Message-
   From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 4:15 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Custom Tag CD [CF-Talk]
  
  
   With the release of the Fusebox ebook on CD at the conference, the
idea
 of
   CD distribution has surfaced in my head again. Would anyone be
 interested
  if
   I were to make and distribute a CD with all the current free custom
tags
  on
   it. Would you pay something like $5-$10 for a CF software library? I
can
   re-organize the whole thing into tighter categories and include all of
 the
   custom tag docs as well. I think that it'll all fit on one CD but the
   question is use.
  
   Michael Dinowitz
   Publisher - The Fusion Authority (www.fusionauthority.com/alert)
   ListManager - CF-Talk, CF-Jobs, Spectra-Talk, JRun-Talk, etc.
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RE: Can you sort verity results by date?

2000-09-22 Thread Ryan

OK but then what do you do when you have the date value stored
in the custom field? How can you sort by it? Thanks,

Ryan

If you can spare either og the custom fields, put the date in there, or
store the date in a seperate table and have a key to link the records in the
table to the the appropriate verity records in the custom field instead.

Richard

 I have a search on my site that searches through the cfm and html
 content files. This is a community/portal/entertainment site, so
 it has lots of articles being updated every week. I would like
 the search to sort by the file date, so users will find the freshest
 material. Is there any way to do this? There is no sort attribute
 in the CFSEARCH tag.


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SQL Max Size

2000-09-22 Thread Robert Everland

What is the max size of text that I can insert into an SQL database
and is there a way to make an unlimited size available? What I am trying to
do is insert word document converted to html(2000 so they are huge) to make
a database of pocedures here at work. They can be pretty huge, so the
database has to be able to handle anything.

Robert Everland III
Web Developer
Dixon Ticonderoga
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RE: 2nd Conference

2000-09-22 Thread Steve Runyon

FYI to Allaire: check out the article in October's Wired about floating
conferences.  Supposedy it's a lot cheaper overall to book a conference
on a cruise ship, since it's all-inclusive...plus the attendees get all
the benefits of being on a cruise, too!

Disclaimer/Proclaimer: I don't work for any cruise lines or anything,
I'm just a CF developer.  Can't go to the conference this year because
we'll be on our honeymoon, just looking out for next year.  :-)


-Original Message-
From: JustinMacCarthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:12 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: 2nd Conference


in addition the $899 dosen't even cover Allaires cost for holding this
event


~Justin

 No you are not mssing anything. It means if you can't afford it you can't
 go.  That is a fact of life. Deal with it. I am coming from Michigan and
 still had to pay for airfare, entrance fee, car rental, hotel, spending
 money too...
 - Original Message -
 From: "Iztok Polanic" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 7:57 AM
 Subject: 2nd Conference


  Hi!
 
  We received (some time ago) a notice from Allaire, that they will host
the
  2nd Developer Conference in Washington D.C.  This conference is great
 I
  was at the 1st conference). But to my surprise the entrance fee is $899
 (or
  $799 if you register before July or something). THAT'S TOO EXPENSIVE if
 you
  ask me!!! If you are from Europe, then you can't come, except if you
have
 a
  lot of money (entrace fee + plane tickets + hotel + spending money). Am
I
  missing something?
 
  Bye,
 
  Iztok
 

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RE: 2nd Conference

2000-09-22 Thread Andrea Wasik(CancerSource)

Best thing is to work for a company that will pay for you to go...that's why
they can charge so much. When you think about it from Allaire's perspective,
it's like getting paid for marketing instead of vice-versa...the more
programmers that learn this the more it propagates, which I think has always
been the foundation of CF's "viral" marketing. I'm not complaining, mind
you. I only wish their stock price would go back up - at last year's conf in
Boston they rented out a big nightclub w/a huge arcade place on the 2nd
floor and gave everyone free unlimited drinks and bags full of tokens for
the arcade...but that was when their stock price was super-inflated, wonder
if they'll do something similar this fall...

Andrea

-Original Message-
From: Steve Runyon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:56 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: 2nd Conference


FYI to Allaire: check out the article in October's Wired about floating
conferences.  Supposedy it's a lot cheaper overall to book a conference
on a cruise ship, since it's all-inclusive...plus the attendees get all
the benefits of being on a cruise, too!

Disclaimer/Proclaimer: I don't work for any cruise lines or anything,
I'm just a CF developer.  Can't go to the conference this year because
we'll be on our honeymoon, just looking out for next year.  :-)


-Original Message-
From: JustinMacCarthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:12 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: 2nd Conference


in addition the $899 dosen't even cover Allaires cost for holding this
event


~Justin

 No you are not mssing anything. It means if you can't afford it you can't
 go.  That is a fact of life. Deal with it. I am coming from Michigan and
 still had to pay for airfare, entrance fee, car rental, hotel, spending
 money too...
 - Original Message -
 From: "Iztok Polanic" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 7:57 AM
 Subject: 2nd Conference


  Hi!
 
  We received (some time ago) a notice from Allaire, that they will host
the
  2nd Developer Conference in Washington D.C.  This conference is great
 I
  was at the 1st conference). But to my surprise the entrance fee is $899
 (or
  $799 if you register before July or something). THAT'S TOO EXPENSIVE if
 you
  ask me!!! If you are from Europe, then you can't come, except if you
have
 a
  lot of money (entrace fee + plane tickets + hotel + spending money). Am
I
  missing something?
 
  Bye,
 
  Iztok
 

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ASP or Coldfusion?

2000-09-22 Thread Dean Alexandrou

I am not sure what tool to use to develop quite a major site. I have heard
that while coldfusion is good for small sites, ASP is more robust, and would
cope better with a large site that has to deal with a few thousand hits a
week.


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Re: 2nd Conference

2000-09-22 Thread JustinMacCarthy

I don't know  www.geekcruises.com are damned expensive...

$3000 + 

Some great speakers though

~Justin 

in October's Wired about floating
 conferences.  Supposedy it's a lot cheaper overall to book a conference
 on a cruise ship, since it's all-inclusive...plus the attendees get all
 the benefits of being on a cruise, too!


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RE: 2nd Conference

2000-09-22 Thread RICHARD MOGER

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Did they have Defender by Williams?
 


-Original Message-
From: Andrea Wasik(CancerSource) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 22 September 2000 14:57
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: 2nd Conference


Best thing is to work for a company that will pay for you to go...that's why
they can charge so much. When you think about it from Allaire's perspective,
it's like getting paid for marketing instead of vice-versa...the more
programmers that learn this the more it propagates, which I think has always
been the foundation of CF's "viral" marketing. I'm not complaining, mind
you. I only wish their stock price would go back up - at last year's conf in
Boston they rented out a big nightclub w/a huge arcade place on the 2nd
floor and gave everyone free unlimited drinks and bags full of tokens for
the arcade...but that was when their stock price was super-inflated, wonder
if they'll do something similar this fall...

Andrea

-Original Message-
From: Steve Runyon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:56 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: 2nd Conference


FYI to Allaire: check out the article in October's Wired about floating
conferences.  Supposedy it's a lot cheaper overall to book a conference
on a cruise ship, since it's all-inclusive...plus the attendees get all
the benefits of being on a cruise, too!

Disclaimer/Proclaimer: I don't work for any cruise lines or anything,
I'm just a CF developer.  Can't go to the conference this year because
we'll be on our honeymoon, just looking out for next year.  :-)


-Original Message-
From: JustinMacCarthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:12 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: 2nd Conference


in addition the $899 dosen't even cover Allaires cost for holding this
event


~Justin

 No you are not mssing anything. It means if you can't afford it you can't
 go.  That is a fact of life. Deal with it. I am coming from Michigan and
 still had to pay for airfare, entrance fee, car rental, hotel, spending
 money too...
 - Original Message -
 From: "Iztok Polanic" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 7:57 AM
 Subject: 2nd Conference


  Hi!
 
  We received (some time ago) a notice from Allaire, that they will host
the
  2nd Developer Conference in Washington D.C.  This conference is great
 I
  was at the 1st conference). But to my surprise the entrance fee is $899
 (or
  $799 if you register before July or something). THAT'S TOO EXPENSIVE if
 you
  ask me!!! If you are from Europe, then you can't come, except if you
have
 a
  lot of money (entrace fee + plane tickets + hotel + spending money). Am
I
  missing something?
 
  Bye,
 
  Iztok
 

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Re: ASP or Coldfusion?

2000-09-22 Thread Kevin Schmidt

Go to allaires site and read about stlouisrams.com.  I think they take a few
more than a couple thousand hits a week and they speak volumes about Cold
Fusion and it's scaleability.There are alot of sites just like that one
that use cold fusion as well   Check out bmwusa.com  I am sure they take a
few more than a couple thousand hits a week too.
- Original Message -
From: "Dean Alexandrou" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:01 AM
Subject: ASP or Coldfusion?


 I am not sure what tool to use to develop quite a major site. I have heard
 that while coldfusion is good for small sites, ASP is more robust, and
would
 cope better with a large site that has to deal with a few thousand hits a
 week.


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RE: SQL Max Size

2000-09-22 Thread Christopher Olive, CIO

if this is for an intranet, why not just save the files to some web
directory, and only store the links in the DB?  it's a bit more manageable,
in my experience.

chris olive, cio
cresco technologies
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.crescotech.com



-Original Message-
From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:53 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: SQL Max Size


What is the max size of text that I can insert into an SQL database
and is there a way to make an unlimited size available? What I am trying to
do is insert word document converted to html(2000 so they are huge) to make
a database of pocedures here at work. They can be pretty huge, so the
database has to be able to handle anything.

Robert Everland III
Web Developer
Dixon Ticonderoga

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RE: ASP or Coldfusion?

2000-09-22 Thread Andy Ewings

Oh no!!!...don't start this thread up again!tht last one was never
ending!

In short: 

Don't neccessarily dismiss CF just because you are developing a major site -
I am developing a site in CF with 4 clustered servers and 3 Million
registered users - copes fine.

It takes much longer to develop a site with ASP than CF and you cannnot port
your site from NT to UNIX whereas you can with CF if neccessary

You don't have to bear the cost of CF Server if developing with ASP (about
£1000).

In conclusion they are both good tools - I came from an ASP background but
my preference lies slightly towards CF for most tasks - it really is a
superb tool.

--
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Thoughtbubble Ltd
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To: CF-Talk
Subject: ASP or Coldfusion?


I am not sure what tool to use to develop quite a major site. I have heard
that while coldfusion is good for small sites, ASP is more robust, and would
cope better with a large site that has to deal with a few thousand hits a
week.



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RE: ASP or Coldfusion?

2000-09-22 Thread Zachary Bedell

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Quite honestly, for a few thousand hits a week, you could code it in
QBasic and still have speed to spare  I've had good  bad luck
scaling applications with both CF and ASP.  Alot seems to depend on
how the server software was put together (IE was versions of various
things  how they were installed).  The rest depends on how the code
is written.  If you write good robust code, it really doesn't matter
whether you use ASP or ColdFusion.  If you know one or the other, use
it. 

Another deciding factor is cost -- if you don't already own CF
Server, then ASP will be your cheapest route.

I've got a million hit a month site running fine on ColdFusion
(4.0.1, NT4 SP6, dual P2-400, 384MB, SQL Server 7), and I've got a
couple thousand hit a month site running like crap on ColdFusion. 
The million hit site was coded personally by me, and I know for
certain that ALL locking and other stability issues were handled
correctly.  The other site was coded by hired trained-monkies, and it
needs to be rebooted once a day...  I've got similar success  
failure stories on ASP.  Basically, the quality of the coding is more
important than whether it's ASP or CF.  

Now on the other hand, CF 4.5.1 KILLED both of the aforementioned CF
sites, so the CF version might have something to do with things 
Version 4.0.1 seems good for us.  4.5  4.5.1 completely choked.  I
haven't had the guts to try 4.5.1 SP1 yet

Hope that was helpful.

Best regards,
Zac Bedell

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 I am not sure what tool to use to develop quite a major site. 
 I have heard
 that while coldfusion is good for small sites, ASP is more 
 robust, and would
 cope better with a large site that has to deal with a few 
 thousand hits a
 week.
 
 
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Re: ASP or Coldfusion?

2000-09-22 Thread JustinMacCarthy

ColdFusion is as robust as ASP.
~Justin

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 that while coldfusion is good for small sites, ASP is more robust, and
would
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RE: SQL Max Size

2000-09-22 Thread Zachary Bedell

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 What is the max size of text that I can insert into an 
 SQL database and is there a way to make an unlimited 
 size available? What I am trying to do is insert word 
 document converted to html(2000 so they are huge) to make
 a database of procedures here at work. They can be 
 pretty huge, so the database has to be able to handle 
 anything.

I assume you mean MS SQL Server 7.0?

If so, making the field type 'text' should give you something like
several gigs per field.  If you make them 'varchar', you're limited
to 8000 chars.

If I recall right, CF needs to be gently tweaked to enable large text
retrieval.  Out-of-box, I think it's limited to 65536 chars.  Don't
quote me on that, tho...

In any case, making the field type 'text' will give you essentially
unlimited storage (up to available drive space).  If it's an issue,
and you need to know the exact size limit, I can look it up for you. 
I'm just too lazy to go get the book off the shelf  look right
now...  Suffice to say it's a LOT.

Best regards,
Zac Bedell


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preventing overbooking of classes

2000-09-22 Thread Terri Stocke

Hi All,

Let me say in advance that this will be a lengthy description of my problem, 
as I believe the more info you have, the better position you will be in to 
help me...

[deep breath] Okay. I have (for the most part) a simple app that allows 
employees to request approval for training. There is an administrator 
section that allows the training coordinator to view all of the requests and 
their status (registered, pending approval, not approved, cancelled, wait 
list) as well as change their registration status and the approver's name.

Here is the form that displays the editable fields generated for each 
approval request brought up by the search(admin_search_action.cfm). (The 
records are pulled based upon the class id):

cfform action="admin_edit.cfm?classid=#classid#" method="POST" 
enablecab="Yes"
cfoutput
INPUT TYPE = "hidden" NAME = "NumRecords" VALUE = "#Data.RecordCount#"
/cfoutput
cfloop query="data"
cfoutput
TR bgcolor="###IIF(data.currentrow mod 2, de ( 'CC' ), de ( 
'FF' 
))#"
TD valign="top" class="medtext" width="26%"#student_name#/TD
TD valign="top" class="medtext" width="20%"#student_phone#
/TD
TD valign="top" class="medtext" width="22%"#student_location#
/TD
TD valign="top" class="medtext" width="22%"#status_name#
/TD

TD 
valign="top" class="medtext" width="5%"

input type="hidden" name="requestid#currentRow#" value="#data.requestid#"
cfselect name="status_name#currentRow#" query="status" value="statusid" 
display="status_name"
option value="" selected
/cfselect

/TD
td
cfif actual_approver_name is ""
cfinput type="Text" name="actual_approver_name#currentRow#" 
value="#manager_name#" required="No" size="15" maxlength="30"
cfelse
cfinput type="Text" name="actual_approver_name#currentRow#" 
value="#actual_approver_name#" required="No" size="15" maxlength="30"
/cfif
/td
/TR
/cfoutput
/CFloop
TR
td colspan="7"font color="#ff6600"bdiv align="center"Please verify 
that your changes are correct. When you are ready to save your 
changes,click: /binput 
type="submit" value="submit 
changes"./div/font/td
/tr
/cfform

Now, when this form is displayed on the page, I also query the classes table 
to determine the maximum number of students the class will allow. I also 
determine the number of records in the request table that have a 
registration_status of 1 (for registered) and subtract this from the maximum 
capacity to come up with the number of seats left. There is also code to 
determine the number of students on the wait list. We'll come back to that 
later. This is the important part.

Okay, now this form obviously posts to admin_edit.cfm (passing the classid). 
This is the code from the action form:

!--- query to get maximum seating info on the selected class ---
CFQUERY name="classname" datasource="trainreg"
SELECT DISTINCT * from class
  where classid=#url.classid#
/CFQUERY


!--- Loop through the form fields and update the table. ---
CFLOOP FROM = "1" TO = "#NumRecords#" INDEX = "ThisRow"
CFQUERY DATASOURCE = "TrainReg"
UPDATE Request
SET Actual_Approver_Name = 
'#Evaluate("actual_approver_name"  ThisRow)#'
 cfif (#evaluate("status_name"  ThisRow)# is NOT "")
, registration_status = #Evaluate("status_name"  ThisRow)#
/cfif
cfif #evaluate("status_name"  ThisRow)# is NOT "" AND 
#evaluate("status_name"  ThisRow)# is 1
, actual_approval_date=#now()#
/cfif
WHERE requestID = #Evaluate("form.requestID"  ThisRow)#
/CFQUERY
/CFLOOP

!--- find new number of people registered ---
CFQUERY name="registered" datasource="trainreg"
SELECT Count(*) AS registered_count
   FROM request
   WHERE registration_status=1 and classid=#url.classid#
/CFQUERY

!--- Find number of people currently on the wait list ---
CFQUERY name="wait_list" datasource="trainreg"
SELECT Count(*) AS wait_count
   FROM request
   WHERE registration_status=2 and classid=#url.classid#
/CFQUERY
CFSET seats_available=#classname.class_size#-#registered.registered_count#

!--- re-query the database to display the new data ---

CFQUERY name="data" datasource="TrainReg"
SELECT *
  FROM   Request, Class, status
  Where request.classid=#url.classid# AND class.classid=request.classid
  AND status.statusid=request.registration_status
  ORDER BY status.statusid, request.request_date
/CFQUERY

Whew! I promise, we're almost done here...

Now, the idea is that the following should happen when the training 
coordinator updates a record:

1) If there is still 

RE: ASP or Coldfusion?

2000-09-22 Thread Zachary Bedell

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 It takes much longer to develop a site with ASP than CF 

That depends on the site...  I'm a procedural programmer of many
years, so ASP comes faster to me than CF does.  I can still code
anything in either language, but I'm more comfortable with ASP's
approch than w/ CF's.   Speed is really a matter of personal skill 
preference.  I don't think you can label one or the other as faster
to develop in.  It depends on the coder...

 and you cannnot port your site from NT to UNIX 
 whereas you can with CF if neccessary

Sure you can!  Try ChilisoftASP.  It runs on AIX, HP-UX, Linux,
OS/390, and Solaris.  And it's cheaper than CF Server... 
(www.chilisoft.com)


 In conclusion they are both good tools - I came 
 from an ASP background but my preference lies 
 slightly towards CF for most tasks - it really 
 is a superb tool.

Amen to that!  Use what works best for you...

Best regards,
Zac Bedell

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RE: ASP or Coldfusion?

2000-09-22 Thread Reynolds, Adam

There is no correct answer. Your choice should be based on current skill
sets. If you have in-house Visual Studio (VB, C++) developers and want to
transpose their skills and wish to only deploy to a MS server platform, you
should seriously consider ASP. (The learning curve for ASP is quite steep.)

If you are not coming from a MS background, you should consider CF. The
learning curve is quite shallow and you can easily be writing 'simple' CF
templates in days. I would also consider CF if you are looking for
multi-platform web server solution (although NT is still probably the best
route here.) 

As to ASP being more robust. This is down to your coding techniques/server
set-up more than anything else. One thing that has been said is that CF can
provide a faster delivery, but faster is not always better.

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 ColdFusion is as robust as ASP.
 ~Justin
 
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  I am not sure what tool to use to develop quite a major site. I have
 heard
  that while coldfusion is good for small sites, ASP is more robust, and
 would
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RE: 2nd Conference

2000-09-22 Thread Daye, Marianne

Yeah, but you probably didn't have to pay it out of the pocket money you get
after the European tax rate (depending on where Iztok is from).

Marianne Daye
(originally from Denmark)

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: 2nd Conference


No you are not mssing anything. It means if you can't afford it you can't
go.  That is a fact of life. Deal with it. I am coming from Michigan and
still had to pay for airfare, entrance fee, car rental, hotel, spending
money too...
- Original Message -
From: "Iztok Polanic" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 7:57 AM
Subject: 2nd Conference


 Hi!

 We received (some time ago) a notice from Allaire, that they will host the
 2nd Developer Conference in Washington D.C.  This conference is great ( I
 was at the 1st conference). But to my surprise the entrance fee is $899
(or
 $799 if you register before July or something). THAT'S TOO EXPENSIVE if
you
 ask me!!! If you are from Europe, then you can't come, except if you have
a
 lot of money (entrace fee + plane tickets + hotel + spending money). Am I
 missing something?

 Bye,

 Iztok

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Re: Cold Fusion and Wireless Devices

2000-09-22 Thread Cfmarksport

There is one more URL I want to add to this list.  I attended the Maryland 
CFUG CFun 2K (which was awesome) and Charlie Aerheart gave a good 
survey/introduction presentation on WAP.  Check it out:

http://www.cfconf.org/cfun2k/cfspeakers.cfm

:-)
Oriole

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   Someone asked me about writing Cold Fusion for wireless devices. 
 
 Jeff
 
 http://www.allaire.com/developer/TechnologyReference/wap.cfm
 
 http://wap.colorline.no/wap-faq/ 
 
 Also houseoffusion have a CF-Wap list.
 
 HTH
 Nick 
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RE: ASP or Coldfusion?

2000-09-22 Thread Geoffrey V. Brown


Hi,
I'll offer my opinion, as I'm facing the same thing.  I have a site that is
going to be massive.  Cold Fusion simply could not hold up to the load, and
crashed repeatedly.  The site is about 99% data driven, so there is a lot of
data access going on.  I am now developing this site in ASP, and it seems
far more stable.  We are generally getting 100k+ hits a week on this site.

After seeing many large projects fail with cold fusion, I'd recommend trying
other options before going the CF route on a large project.  Note, I am a
die hard CF developer, I feel that CF is good for smaller sites, less hits,
and allows for a faster development time than ASP... but it just doesn't
hold up on larger projects.


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 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 10:01 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: ASP or Coldfusion?


 I am not sure what tool to use to develop quite a major site. I have heard
 that while coldfusion is good for small sites, ASP is more
 robust, and would
 cope better with a large site that has to deal with a few thousand hits a
 week.


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RE: ASP or Coldfusion?

2000-09-22 Thread Stewart McGowan

Do we have to do this every week?

Stew
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RE: 2nd Conference

2000-09-22 Thread Stewart McGowan

With the exchange rates as they are 800 bucks is nearly a whole tank of gas
in the UK :))

Stew

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From: Daye, Marianne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 22 September 2000 15:31
To: CF-Talk
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Yeah, but you probably didn't have to pay it out of the pocket money you get
after the European tax rate (depending on where Iztok is from).

Marianne Daye
(originally from Denmark)

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 10:12 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: 2nd Conference


No you are not mssing anything. It means if you can't afford it you can't
go.  That is a fact of life. Deal with it. I am coming from Michigan and
still had to pay for airfare, entrance fee, car rental, hotel, spending
money too...
- Original Message -
From: "Iztok Polanic" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 7:57 AM
Subject: 2nd Conference


 Hi!

 We received (some time ago) a notice from Allaire, that they will host the
 2nd Developer Conference in Washington D.C.  This conference is great ( I
 was at the 1st conference). But to my surprise the entrance fee is $899
(or
 $799 if you register before July or something). THAT'S TOO EXPENSIVE if
you
 ask me!!! If you are from Europe, then you can't come, except if you have
a
 lot of money (entrace fee + plane tickets + hotel + spending money). Am I
 missing something?

 Bye,

 Iztok

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Re: 2nd Conference

2000-09-22 Thread Howie Hamlin

Good idea g

http://www.1010wins.com/homepage/viewstory.pl?r=20523l=level1

Howie

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Subject: RE: 2nd Conference


 FYI to Allaire: check out the article in October's Wired about floating
 conferences.  Supposedy it's a lot cheaper overall to book a conference
 on a cruise ship, since it's all-inclusive...plus the attendees get all
 the benefits of being on a cruise, too!
 
 Disclaimer/Proclaimer: I don't work for any cruise lines or anything,
 I'm just a CF developer.  Can't go to the conference this year because
 we'll be on our honeymoon, just looking out for next year.  :-)
 


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cf_imagesize

2000-09-22 Thread Juan Andres Alvarez Valenzuela

by the way, I have a problem with cf_imagesize tag.
I test cf_imagesize and everything was ok but it return me wrong images
sizes with some image files.

anyone have the same problem ?


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Subject: RE: Image validation


I could use that as CF_ImageSize tag well.

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 Nick,

 Can you send the tag to me? I really need that, thanks! ;))

 Roger
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 From: DeVoil, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 4:06 PM
 Subject: RE: Image validation


  Roger
  Russ Michaels very kindly sent me CF_ImageSize which does exactly that,
 I'm
  not sure if it's in the gallery. If not, let me know I could
 send it on to
  you assuming Russ doesn't mind.
  Nick
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Roger Lim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 6:42 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Image validation
 
 
  Hi,
 
  Apparently I allow user to upload their image files into my server,
 however
  I wish to check their image width and height, how do I go about
 doing that
 ?
 
  Thanks.
  Roger
 
 
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RE: preventing overbooking of classes

2000-09-22 Thread James Mathieson

Heya, Terri,

OK, admitted CF_Novice coming out of normal lurk mode, but heck, here's
what comes to mind. You may have already thought of this but want to do
it differently, but...

What about setting the coordinator's registration process to be able to
only approve 1 student at a time? That way, while in the registration
admin page, you can display the list of those waiting for approval, plus
the number of available slots. The coordinator approves a person, and you
give the standard " Mr.X Approved for class Y / approve another person /
back to admin main page" type page in return. And when the coordinator
says "yeah, I'll approve that other guy" you'll be pulling up your
refreshed counts, and if there are no available slots in the class, you
can show the appropriate "class full" message, and the person will not be
*able* to register more students than class slots.

Of course, the downside is if you're working with large classes, or a lot
of students. ;

Is this something resembling what you want to do?

Hope this helps,
James~

-Original Message-
From: Terri Stocke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 10:22 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: preventing overbooking of classes


Hi All,

Let me say in advance that this will be a lengthy description of my
problem,
as I believe the more info you have, the better position you will be in
to
help me...

snip

3) If the training coordinator tries to register a number of students
that
exceeds the maximum class size, I do NOT want the database to update and
I
do NOT want any emails to be generated until she goes back and modifies
the
form.

Now, somehow I need to determine which records from the form had a status
change, and what that status change was, BEFORE they are processed by my
update statement. I then need to take this new number and compare it to
the
database, and generate any error messages as appropriate based upon this
comparison. I tried using a loop and evaluate (without an update query)
to
set a new variable, but this did not work.

I'm thinking that my best bet would be to use a javascript on the actual
form page itself that evaluates all of the status changes in the
drop-down
menus and then utilizes my CF variables in that page for the maximum
seating
capacity, seats available, wait list, etc. So, I fear that the time has
come
for me to finally learn WDDX?

Does anyone have any examples of code that they could share to help me
out
with this? JavaScript is not my forte. In fact, I don't even know where
to
start.

Sorry for the lengthy explanation, but better to get it all out right
upfront...

TIA
Terri

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Select Tag

2000-09-22 Thread Ing. Luis J. Ramirez Flores

I hve a page that contains a form including many fields and a select
menu (combo box) containing information from a database, could (
this select) be actualized only when the database change? That is
I´m filling a order form that contains many information and one field
that contains a client catalog(select), If the client does not exist I
want to go to the clients form to add this, and I want to return to
the original form (order form) and select the last added client from
this order. This means that the order form should refresh the select
field. Could be refresh only a element from the entire form?

Regards
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Re: 2nd Conference

2000-09-22 Thread Kevin Schmidt

If their taxes are too high, that is their problem.  That still doesn't
change the fact if you can't afford it you can't go.
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To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:31 AM
Subject: RE: 2nd Conference


 Yeah, but you probably didn't have to pay it out of the pocket money you
get
 after the European tax rate (depending on where Iztok is from).

 Marianne Daye
 (originally from Denmark)

 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 10:12 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: 2nd Conference


 No you are not mssing anything. It means if you can't afford it you can't
 go.  That is a fact of life. Deal with it. I am coming from Michigan and
 still had to pay for airfare, entrance fee, car rental, hotel, spending
 money too...
 - Original Message -
 From: "Iztok Polanic" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 7:57 AM
 Subject: 2nd Conference


  Hi!
 
  We received (some time ago) a notice from Allaire, that they will host
the
  2nd Developer Conference in Washington D.C.  This conference is great
 I
  was at the 1st conference). But to my surprise the entrance fee is $899
 (or
  $799 if you register before July or something). THAT'S TOO EXPENSIVE if
 you
  ask me!!! If you are from Europe, then you can't come, except if you
have
 a
  lot of money (entrace fee + plane tickets + hotel + spending money). Am
I
  missing something?
 
  Bye,
 
  Iztok
 

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RE: ASP or Coldfusion?

2000-09-22 Thread Reynolds, Adam

I'm curious on this one. What set-up did you have? Where did the issues
arise? Did you cluster? CF Server and DB on same machine? Caching
strategies? DB Stored Procedures? What server settings?

No criticism, just genuinely interested as Allaire has done some analysis
which indicates a dual pIII 1/2 Gig server should be able to deal with
500-600 responses every 8 seconds and that clustering servers provides a
linear growth.


 --
 From: Geoffrey V. Brown[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 22 September 2000 15:45
 To:   CF-Talk
 Subject:  RE: ASP or Coldfusion?
 
 
 Hi,
 I'll offer my opinion, as I'm facing the same thing.  I have a site that
 is
 going to be massive.  Cold Fusion simply could not hold up to the load,
 and
 crashed repeatedly.  The site is about 99% data driven, so there is a lot
 of
 data access going on.  I am now developing this site in ASP, and it seems
 far more stable.  We are generally getting 100k+ hits a week on this site.
 
 After seeing many large projects fail with cold fusion, I'd recommend
 trying
 other options before going the CF route on a large project.  Note, I am a
 die hard CF developer, I feel that CF is good for smaller sites, less
 hits,
 and allows for a faster development time than ASP... but it just doesn't
 hold up on larger projects.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Dean Alexandrou [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 10:01 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: ASP or Coldfusion?
 
 
  I am not sure what tool to use to develop quite a major site. I have
 heard
  that while coldfusion is good for small sites, ASP is more
  robust, and would
  cope better with a large site that has to deal with a few thousand hits
 a
  week.
 
 
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RE: ASP or Coldfusion?

2000-09-22 Thread Andy Ewings

I'll second this...I'm curious too.  As I have developed a site using CF +
SQL 7 over 4 clustered servers (2 x DB + 2 x web) and it works a treat.

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From: Reynolds, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 22 September 2000 15:51
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: ASP or Coldfusion?


I'm curious on this one. What set-up did you have? Where did the issues
arise? Did you cluster? CF Server and DB on same machine? Caching
strategies? DB Stored Procedures? What server settings?

No criticism, just genuinely interested as Allaire has done some analysis
which indicates a dual pIII 1/2 Gig server should be able to deal with
500-600 responses every 8 seconds and that clustering servers provides a
linear growth.


 --
 From: Geoffrey V. Brown[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 22 September 2000 15:45
 To:   CF-Talk
 Subject:  RE: ASP or Coldfusion?
 
 
 Hi,
 I'll offer my opinion, as I'm facing the same thing.  I have a site that
 is
 going to be massive.  Cold Fusion simply could not hold up to the load,
 and
 crashed repeatedly.  The site is about 99% data driven, so there is a lot
 of
 data access going on.  I am now developing this site in ASP, and it seems
 far more stable.  We are generally getting 100k+ hits a week on this site.
 
 After seeing many large projects fail with cold fusion, I'd recommend
 trying
 other options before going the CF route on a large project.  Note, I am a
 die hard CF developer, I feel that CF is good for smaller sites, less
 hits,
 and allows for a faster development time than ASP... but it just doesn't
 hold up on larger projects.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Dean Alexandrou [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 10:01 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: ASP or Coldfusion?
 
 
  I am not sure what tool to use to develop quite a major site. I have
 heard
  that while coldfusion is good for small sites, ASP is more
  robust, and would
  cope better with a large site that has to deal with a few thousand hits
 a
  week.
 
 
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Re: ASP or Coldfusion?

2000-09-22 Thread Kevin Schmidt

I have to disagree there are alot of sites that are very large and handle
more than 100K plus hits a week running Cold Fusion.  I think, as stated in
another reply earlier, it depends on who the developer is.  Junk code won't
scale while good code will.  Take that however you want.


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From: "Geoffrey V. Brown" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:45 AM
Subject: RE: ASP or Coldfusion?



 Hi,
 I'll offer my opinion, as I'm facing the same thing.  I have a site that
is
 going to be massive.  Cold Fusion simply could not hold up to the load,
and
 crashed repeatedly.  The site is about 99% data driven, so there is a lot
of
 data access going on.  I am now developing this site in ASP, and it seems
 far more stable.  We are generally getting 100k+ hits a week on this site.

 After seeing many large projects fail with cold fusion, I'd recommend
trying
 other options before going the CF route on a large project.  Note, I am a
 die hard CF developer, I feel that CF is good for smaller sites, less
hits,
 and allows for a faster development time than ASP... but it just doesn't
 hold up on larger projects.


  -Original Message-
  From: Dean Alexandrou [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 10:01 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: ASP or Coldfusion?
 
 
  I am not sure what tool to use to develop quite a major site. I have
heard
  that while coldfusion is good for small sites, ASP is more
  robust, and would
  cope better with a large site that has to deal with a few thousand hits
a
  week.
 
 
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Re: cf_imagesize

2000-09-22 Thread Dave Hannum

Yea, I've had a problem (at times) - not that it gave the wrong size, but
that it choked and said the image size was a bad value or something to that
effect.  I don't remember the exact error message, but it seemed to be that
certian exact combinations of size and width together choked it.  I got
around it by ever so slightly re-sizing the images it choked on.

Dave


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From: "Juan Andres Alvarez Valenzuela" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 10:46 AM
Subject: cf_imagesize


by the way, I have a problem with cf_imagesize tag.
I test cf_imagesize and everything was ok but it return me wrong images
sizes with some image files.

anyone have the same problem ?


- Original Message -
From: Mark Warrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newsgroups: cf-talk
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 6:27 PM
Subject: RE: Image validation


I could use that as CF_ImageSize tag well.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Lim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 1:20 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Image validation


 Nick,

 Can you send the tag to me? I really need that, thanks! ;))

 Roger
 - Original Message -
 From: DeVoil, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 4:06 PM
 Subject: RE: Image validation


  Roger
  Russ Michaels very kindly sent me CF_ImageSize which does exactly that,
 I'm
  not sure if it's in the gallery. If not, let me know I could
 send it on to
  you assuming Russ doesn't mind.
  Nick
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Roger Lim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 6:42 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Image validation
 
 
  Hi,
 
  Apparently I allow user to upload their image files into my server,
 however
  I wish to check their image width and height, how do I go about
 doing that
 ?
 
  Thanks.
  Roger
 
 
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RE: Template not found. Which template?

2000-09-22 Thread Peter Theobald

Nice and simple!

At 12:30 AM 9/22/00 -0700, Mark Warrick wrote:
Peter - here's a clue to help you out:

In each file you create, add an HTML comment line identifying the filename at the 
beginning and ending point of the file.  (!-- begin filename.cfm ---)  That way, 
when an error occurs, you can view the source and see which file was last processed 
before the error occured.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Theobald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 12:05 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Template not found. Which template?
 
 
 How would it be clear if I click on a link that loaded a handler 
 template (index.cfm) that itself includes 30 other templates?
 
 I suppose I could put cftry and cfcatch around the entire 
 file and print more information myself. But the last time I tried 
 that the error information I found was exactly the same as what 
 CF printed by default. No more no less.
 
 At 05:08 PM 9/22/00 +1100, Scott, Andrew wrote:
 Try cftry and cfcatch tags there is a way to put the stack 
 onto the page
 that will show the last page called, then it would be a matter of that.
 However if you clicked on a link or something then it would beclear that
 this template would be the culprit, basic QA would solve this fairly
 quickly:-)
 
 regards
 
 Andrew Scott
 ANZ eCommerce Centre
 * Ph 9273 0693  
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 From: Peter Theobald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 22 September 2000 16:30
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Template not found. Which template?
 
 
 I have a "FuseBox-like" structure with a lot of template files 
 including other template files.
 Now I get the error: Template not found. But WHICH template 
 isn't found?! It could be any one of about 30 templates!
 
 Why on Earth didn't Allaire print the NAME of the template you 
 are trying to include?
 How can I find out?
 
 
 
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OT: Reason for Alliare Stocks

2000-09-22 Thread William J Wheatley

Ok let me say first that I LOVE COLDFUSION and i've used it for 4 years
now.

but i will say that i'm starting to become disilliusioned (sp) by the
service i've recieved
from allaire, it seems like everytime i try to buy one of there products not
only do i have to wait on hold for 20-50 minutes but i get crappy help, i
tell the sales guy want i want and he tells me what HE wants me to buy and
since i tell him no i dont want to buy 7 Licenses right now and spend
30,000, and the words where not right now, i would have bought them from
this guy Mark B. in a few months but he said OH no i want them by the end of
this month. And i had to just stop and say WAIT a second,
you are the Sales guy i am the customer that wants to give you money. I know
to him 5000 is not alot of cash but we're going to have to spend upwards of
30,000 in licenses eventually and he does not think that is good enough. So
he sends me a quote and then i answer via email saying OK we're just going
to do 1 copy of CF ENT for Linux and i mean he was so unhelpfull he did not
answer his email for several hours he was upset i asked for the fax # he
told me wrong ifnormation just to shut me up because we called 5 minutes
after his hours ended so he did not want to help.

Now i'm a very easy going guy but when a person that is supposed to be
working for a company to ENHANCE its reputation and marketshare by
developing a special sense of loyalty. By making the customer feel that you
actually give a damn about him and are not just in this for your commission
check. I know people are trying to make a living but dont do it at the
expense of making your customers feel like you dont have enough time in the
day for them.

Luckily enough John with Customer Relations really saved the day by being
helpful, understanding and actually taking a damn minute to listen to my
problems and make me feel like i was important.
So possibly the problem with allaires stock is that people are getting the
same trouble that i am.
And one thing i would recommend allaire to do is get MORE people to answer
the darn phone so you dont have to sit on hold forever, but if you cant do
that at least get sales people that dont make me feel like crap. We may be
no microsoft or IBM, but we've referred our fair share of people to use CF
and we've given our fair share of money to Allaire when they were nobodies
still making CGI code, and for that type of loyalty they have hired sales
people that dont make us feel like we mean anything to them.

Thanks for Letting me Vent



Bill Wheatley
IT DIRECTOR
AEPS INC
http://www.aeps.com
ICQ: 417645
http://www.aeps2000.com
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RE: ASP or Coldfusion?

2000-09-22 Thread Reynolds, Adam

I think the issue could be the 99% data driven. Not that I know the design
or anything. Ben Forta at the UKCFUG meeting specifically highlighted an
issue with a databases. He knew of one site where the application.cfm would
take 13 minutes to run first timeafter that, milliseconds. It was
literally cahing the whole catalogue for the site into structures to provide
massive performance gains.



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 From: Kevin Schmidt[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 22 September 2000 17:02
 To:   CF-Talk
 Subject:  Re: ASP or Coldfusion?
 
 I have to disagree there are alot of sites that are very large and handle
 more than 100K plus hits a week running Cold Fusion.  I think, as stated
 in
 another reply earlier, it depends on who the developer is.  Junk code
 won't
 scale while good code will.  Take that however you want.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Geoffrey V. Brown" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:45 AM
 Subject: RE: ASP or Coldfusion?
 
 
 
  Hi,
  I'll offer my opinion, as I'm facing the same thing.  I have a site that
 is
  going to be massive.  Cold Fusion simply could not hold up to the load,
 and
  crashed repeatedly.  The site is about 99% data driven, so there is a
 lot
 of
  data access going on.  I am now developing this site in ASP, and it
 seems
  far more stable.  We are generally getting 100k+ hits a week on this
 site.
 
  After seeing many large projects fail with cold fusion, I'd recommend
 trying
  other options before going the CF route on a large project.  Note, I am
 a
  die hard CF developer, I feel that CF is good for smaller sites, less
 hits,
  and allows for a faster development time than ASP... but it just doesn't
  hold up on larger projects.
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Dean Alexandrou [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 10:01 AM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: ASP or Coldfusion?
  
  
   I am not sure what tool to use to develop quite a major site. I have
 heard
   that while coldfusion is good for small sites, ASP is more
   robust, and would
   cope better with a large site that has to deal with a few thousand
 hits
 a
   week.
  
  
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Re: 2nd Conference

2000-09-22 Thread Cfmarksport

In a message dated 09/22/2000 9:08:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 No you are not mssing anything. It means if you can't afford it you can't
 go.  That is a fact of life. Deal with it. I am coming from Michigan and
 still had to pay for airfare, entrance fee, car rental, hotel, spending
 money too... 

It may be a fact of life, but it still sucks.  My company can't afford this 
type of luxury and neither can I.  I live in Silver Spring so all I'd have to 
come up with is the entry fee.  But it's still beyond my means and that sucks.

Oriole
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RE: ASP or Coldfusion?

2000-09-22 Thread Ben Forta

As a rule I try not to get involved in this particular discussion, but I
feel compelled to say that Kevin has hit the nail on the head.

Good CF code will scale well, but CF code won't. Same is true for any
language and platform - I have seen great ASP code, great Perl code, and
great JSP code - I have also seen really bad ASP code, really bad Perl code,
and really bad JSP code.

Bottom line (and I have said this before), ColdFusion is a tool, it depends
on how you use it (and how you opt not to use it).

--- Ben

PS Go to www.forta.com/cf/resources, there are links there to a few CFDJ
columns I wrote on just this subject.



-Original Message-
From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 12:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: ASP or Coldfusion?


I have to disagree there are alot of sites that are very large and handle
more than 100K plus hits a week running Cold Fusion.  I think, as stated in
another reply earlier, it depends on who the developer is.  Junk code won't
scale while good code will.  Take that however you want.


- Original Message -
From: "Geoffrey V. Brown" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:45 AM
Subject: RE: ASP or Coldfusion?



 Hi,
 I'll offer my opinion, as I'm facing the same thing.  I have a site that
is
 going to be massive.  Cold Fusion simply could not hold up to the load,
and
 crashed repeatedly.  The site is about 99% data driven, so there is a lot
of
 data access going on.  I am now developing this site in ASP, and it seems
 far more stable.  We are generally getting 100k+ hits a week on this site.

 After seeing many large projects fail with cold fusion, I'd recommend
trying
 other options before going the CF route on a large project.  Note, I am a
 die hard CF developer, I feel that CF is good for smaller sites, less
hits,
 and allows for a faster development time than ASP... but it just doesn't
 hold up on larger projects.


  -Original Message-
  From: Dean Alexandrou [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 10:01 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: ASP or Coldfusion?
 
 
  I am not sure what tool to use to develop quite a major site. I have
heard
  that while coldfusion is good for small sites, ASP is more
  robust, and would
  cope better with a large site that has to deal with a few thousand hits
a
  week.
 
 
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Re: ASP or Coldfusion?

2000-09-22 Thread Peter Theobald

This is flame-bait if I ever saw it.
I think I'm going to go post on a religious mailing list, "I heard your religion is 
not as good as some of the other religions. What do you think?"


At 03:01 PM 9/22/00 +0100, Dean Alexandrou wrote:
I am not sure what tool to use to develop quite a major site. I have heard
that while coldfusion is good for small sites, ASP is more robust, and would
cope better with a large site that has to deal with a few thousand hits a
week.


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RE: Template not found. Which template?

2000-09-22 Thread Reynolds, Adam

Or go into your server settings go to debug and set the:
 ...Detail view - shows the time to process the page broken down
by all the individual pages that were used to compose the final page. (You
must restart ColdFusion Server in order for changes to this setting to take
effect.)

option.

Putting the !-- file name -- could be considered a security risk. stick to
cf comments (remap ctrl+shft+m in Studio to CF comments!)

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 From: Peter Theobald[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 22 September 2000 16:01
 To:   CF-Talk
 Subject:  RE: Template not found. Which template?
 
 Nice and simple!
 
 At 12:30 AM 9/22/00 -0700, Mark Warrick wrote:
 Peter - here's a clue to help you out:
 
 In each file you create, add an HTML comment line identifying the
 filename at the beginning and ending point of the file.  (!-- begin
 filename.cfm ---)  That way, when an error occurs, you can view the
 source and see which file was last processed before the error occured.
 
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  -Original Message-
  From: Peter Theobald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 12:05 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: Template not found. Which template?
  
  
  How would it be clear if I click on a link that loaded a handler 
  template (index.cfm) that itself includes 30 other templates?
  
  I suppose I could put cftry and cfcatch around the entire 
  file and print more information myself. But the last time I tried 
  that the error information I found was exactly the same as what 
  CF printed by default. No more no less.
  
  At 05:08 PM 9/22/00 +1100, Scott, Andrew wrote:
  Try cftry and cfcatch tags there is a way to put the stack 
  onto the page
  that will show the last page called, then it would be a matter of
 that.
  However if you clicked on a link or something then it would beclear
 that
  this template would be the culprit, basic QA would solve this fairly
  quickly:-)
  
  regards
  
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  -Original Message-
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  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Template not found. Which template?
  
  
  I have a "FuseBox-like" structure with a lot of template files 
  including other template files.
  Now I get the error: Template not found. But WHICH template 
  isn't found?! It could be any one of about 30 templates!
  
  Why on Earth didn't Allaire print the NAME of the template you 
  are trying to include?
  How can I find out?
  
  
  
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RE: cf_imagesize

2000-09-22 Thread Robert Everland

I had the same problem. Use cfx_image works perfectly.
http://www.intrafoundation.com/cf.html

Robert Everland III
Web Developer
Dixon Ticonderoga


-Original Message-
From: Juan Andres Alvarez Valenzuela [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 10:47 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: cf_imagesize


by the way, I have a problem with cf_imagesize tag.
I test cf_imagesize and everything was ok but it return me wrong images
sizes with some image files.

anyone have the same problem ?


- Original Message -
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Newsgroups: cf-talk
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 6:27 PM
Subject: RE: Image validation


I could use that as CF_ImageSize tag well.

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 From: Roger Lim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 1:20 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Image validation


 Nick,

 Can you send the tag to me? I really need that, thanks! ;))

 Roger
 - Original Message -
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 Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 4:06 PM
 Subject: RE: Image validation


  Roger
  Russ Michaels very kindly sent me CF_ImageSize which does exactly that,
 I'm
  not sure if it's in the gallery. If not, let me know I could
 send it on to
  you assuming Russ doesn't mind.
  Nick
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Roger Lim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 6:42 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Image validation
 
 
  Hi,
 
  Apparently I allow user to upload their image files into my server,
 however
  I wish to check their image width and height, how do I go about
 doing that
 ?
 
  Thanks.
  Roger
 
 
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CF friendly URL Major Search Engine Design.

2000-09-22 Thread Kevin Merker

I've been made aware that a drawback of CF is that the URL's are
unfriendly to the major search engines. This is one benefit of the
Fusebox architecture that bypasses the unfriendly normal CF designed
URL's. Is there a work around that can be used to make CF URL's more
search engine friendly? Does frame use come into play?
I can't see developing a site that can not be easily found by the major
search engines.
Please help.

Thanks
KM

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Re: ASP or Coldfusion?

2000-09-22 Thread Gregory Harris

Well...informally it is the City of Los Angeles's choice for a web development 
platform, big enough?  They get LOTS of hits even tho I've never seen the stats.

Gregory Harris
Los Angeles Information Technology Agency (ITA)
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/22 7:01 AM 
I am not sure what tool to use to develop quite a major site. I have heard
that while coldfusion is good for small sites, ASP is more robust, and would
cope better with a large site that has to deal with a few thousand hits a
week.


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RE: ASP or Coldfusion?

2000-09-22 Thread Don Bellamy

I guess I'll throw my experience into the mix as well.

We developed a ColdFusion a site that does well over 500,000 hits a day
running on a single web server and a single sql7 box.  It is very, very data
intensive, and runs like a charm.  As traffic picked up, we did run into
many issues, but were always able to overcome them by utilizing several
caching techniques.

Hope this helps!

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 -Original Message-
 From: Geoffrey V. Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 10:46 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: ASP or Coldfusion?



 Hi,
 I'll offer my opinion, as I'm facing the same thing.  I have
 a site that is
 going to be massive.  Cold Fusion simply could not hold up to
 the load, and
 crashed repeatedly.  The site is about 99% data driven, so
 there is a lot of
 data access going on.  I am now developing this site in ASP,
 and it seems
 far more stable.  We are generally getting 100k+ hits a week
 on this site.

 After seeing many large projects fail with cold fusion, I'd
 recommend trying
 other options before going the CF route on a large project.
 Note, I am a
 die hard CF developer, I feel that CF is good for smaller
 sites, less hits,
 and allows for a faster development time than ASP... but it
 just doesn't
 hold up on larger projects.


  -Original Message-
  From: Dean Alexandrou [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 10:01 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: ASP or Coldfusion?
 
 
  I am not sure what tool to use to develop quite a major
 site. I have heard
  that while coldfusion is good for small sites, ASP is more
  robust, and would
  cope better with a large site that has to deal with a few
 thousand hits a
  week.
 
 
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Re: Reason for Alliare Stocks

2000-09-22 Thread Howie Hamlin

Why don't you purchase from buy.com or some other place?  If you know
exactly what you want you can get it there with no hassles, other sales
pitches, etc...plus - it's cheaper...

Regards,

Howie

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Subject: OT: Reason for Alliare Stocks


 Ok let me say first that I LOVE COLDFUSION and i've used it for 4 years
 now.

 but i will say that i'm starting to become disilliusioned (sp) by the
 service i've recieved
 from allaire,


SNIP




 Bill Wheatley
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 AEPS INC
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Re: Custom Tag CD [CF-Talk]

2000-09-22 Thread Vance_Duke


I would be interested.

Vance Duke
Cold Fusion Application Developer
i2 Technologies
(469) 357-4729



   

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I would certainly be interested
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Subject: RE: Custom Tag CD [CF-Talk]


 I would be intrested as well.

 -Original Message-
 From: Don Cuniff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 5:47 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Custom Tag CD [CF-Talk]


 Definitely has value ... keep us posted.
 - Original Message -
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 Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 8:24 PM
 Subject: Re: Custom Tag CD [CF-Talk]


  Where do we send the money?
 
  Marius Milosav
  www.scorpiosoft.com
  Virtual Help Desk Demo (VHD)
  www.scorpiosoft.com/vhd/login.cfm
   -Original Message-
   From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 4:15 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Custom Tag CD [CF-Talk]
  
  
   With the release of the Fusebox ebook on CD at the conference, the
idea
 of
   CD distribution has surfaced in my head again. Would anyone be
 interested
  if
   I were to make and distribute a CD with all the current free custom
tags
  on
   it. Would you pay something like $5-$10 for a CF software library? I
can
   re-organize the whole thing into tighter categories and include all
of
 the
   custom tag docs as well. I think that it'll all fit on one CD but the
   question is use.
  
   Michael Dinowitz
   Publisher - The Fusion Authority (www.fusionauthority.com/alert)
   ListManager - CF-Talk, CF-Jobs, Spectra-Talk, JRun-Talk, etc.
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RE: Template not found. Which template?

2000-09-22 Thread Larry Juncker

Use the HTML comment line !--  -- not the CF Comment line !---  ---

It makes a big difference in that you can not see a CF comment line.

Larry Juncker
Senior Cold Fusion Programmer
Heartland Internet

-Original Message-
From: Peter Theobald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 10:01 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Template not found. Which template?


Nice and simple!

At 12:30 AM 9/22/00 -0700, Mark Warrick wrote:
Peter - here's a clue to help you out:

In each file you create, add an HTML comment line identifying the filename
at the beginning and ending point of the file.  (!-- begin
filename.cfm ---)  That way, when an error occurs, you can view the source
and see which file was last processed before the error occured.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Theobald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 12:05 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Template not found. Which template?


 How would it be clear if I click on a link that loaded a handler
 template (index.cfm) that itself includes 30 other templates?

 I suppose I could put cftry and cfcatch around the entire
 file and print more information myself. But the last time I tried
 that the error information I found was exactly the same as what
 CF printed by default. No more no less.

 At 05:08 PM 9/22/00 +1100, Scott, Andrew wrote:
 Try cftry and cfcatch tags there is a way to put the stack
 onto the page
 that will show the last page called, then it would be a matter of that.
 However if you clicked on a link or something then it would beclear that
 this template would be the culprit, basic QA would solve this fairly
 quickly:-)
 
 regards
 
 Andrew Scott
 ANZ eCommerce Centre
 * Ph 9273 0693
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 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Theobald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 22 September 2000 16:30
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Template not found. Which template?
 
 
 I have a "FuseBox-like" structure with a lot of template files
 including other template files.
 Now I get the error: Template not found. But WHICH template
 isn't found?! It could be any one of about 30 templates!
 
 Why on Earth didn't Allaire print the NAME of the template you
 are trying to include?
 How can I find out?
 
 
 
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display all text?

2000-09-22 Thread Henry Ahn

This seems like I am overlooking something obvious but maybe you all cna
help.   Does anyone know a way to display all the text in a cfm file to the
browser?

We'd like to display text that includes ColdFusion and custom tag calls but
don't want to call the tags themselves.  

For example the screen should display exactly like this:

table
tr
td
cf_ctCustomTag1
/td
/tr
/table

instead of processing the tags.  

thanks.

Henry Ahn
Next Jump, Inc. / Boston Tech
(617) 776-0890 x120

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Crazy idea?

2000-09-22 Thread Juan Andres Alvarez Valenzuela

any topic about a Coldfusion Open source ? 
what about CFML especs ? any ideas ?

is it a crazy idea to have a GNU Coldfusion servers ? 


JUANDRES

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RE: ASP or Coldfusion?

2000-09-22 Thread Geoffrey V. Brown


Hi,
We had a Dual P3 600, 1gig+ ram as a cf box, running 4.5.1.  The db server
was SQL Server 7 on a dual 600, 512 ram.  No clustering.  We have roughly 70
queries that cache data, 20-40 recordsets each.  Some queries use stored
procedures, others do not.  Each page runs a minimum of three queries.
Server settings are as Allaire recommends for multi processor systems.

 -Original Message-
 From: Reynolds, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 10:51 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: ASP or Coldfusion?


 I'm curious on this one. What set-up did you have? Where did the issues
 arise? Did you cluster? CF Server and DB on same machine? Caching
 strategies? DB Stored Procedures? What server settings?

 No criticism, just genuinely interested as Allaire has done some analysis
 which indicates a dual pIII 1/2 Gig server should be able to deal with
 500-600 responses every 8 seconds and that clustering servers provides a
 linear growth.


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  To: CF-Talk
  Subject:RE: ASP or Coldfusion?
 
 
  Hi,
  I'll offer my opinion, as I'm facing the same thing.  I have a site that
  is
  going to be massive.  Cold Fusion simply could not hold up to the load,
  and
  crashed repeatedly.  The site is about 99% data driven, so
 there is a lot
  of
  data access going on.  I am now developing this site in ASP,
 and it seems
  far more stable.  We are generally getting 100k+ hits a week on
 this site.
 
  After seeing many large projects fail with cold fusion, I'd recommend
  trying
  other options before going the CF route on a large project.
 Note, I am a
  die hard CF developer, I feel that CF is good for smaller sites, less
  hits,
  and allows for a faster development time than ASP... but it just doesn't
  hold up on larger projects.
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Dean Alexandrou [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 10:01 AM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: ASP or Coldfusion?
  
  
   I am not sure what tool to use to develop quite a major site. I have
  heard
   that while coldfusion is good for small sites, ASP is more
   robust, and would
   cope better with a large site that has to deal with a few
 thousand hits
  a
   week.
  
  
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RE: cf_imagesize

2000-09-22 Thread Juan Andres Alvarez Valenzuela

um

I should prefer not to use a CFX tag, because my hosting will charge me for
that.

thanks anyway,

Juandres


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Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 5:11 PM
Subject: RE: cf_imagesize


 I had the same problem. Use cfx_image works perfectly.
 http://www.intrafoundation.com/cf.html

 Robert Everland III
 Web Developer
 Dixon Ticonderoga


 -Original Message-
 From: Juan Andres Alvarez Valenzuela [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 10:47 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: cf_imagesize


 by the way, I have a problem with cf_imagesize tag.
 I test cf_imagesize and everything was ok but it return me wrong images
 sizes with some image files.

 anyone have the same problem ?


 - Original Message -
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 Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 6:27 PM
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 I could use that as CF_ImageSize tag well.

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  -Original Message-
  From: Roger Lim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 1:20 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: Image validation
 
 
  Nick,
 
  Can you send the tag to me? I really need that, thanks! ;))
 
  Roger
  - Original Message -
  From: DeVoil, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 4:06 PM
  Subject: RE: Image validation
 
 
   Roger
   Russ Michaels very kindly sent me CF_ImageSize which does exactly
that,
  I'm
   not sure if it's in the gallery. If not, let me know I could
  send it on to
   you assuming Russ doesn't mind.
   Nick
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Roger Lim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 6:42 AM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: Image validation
  
  
   Hi,
  
   Apparently I allow user to upload their image files into my server,
  however
   I wish to check their image width and height, how do I go about
  doing that
  ?
  
   Thanks.
   Roger
  
  

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RE: cf_imagesize

2000-09-22 Thread Rich Wild

Imagesize would give me this error quite a lot. It just wouldn't read
certain images. I couldn't see a pattern in it.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Hannum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 4:04 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: cf_imagesize
 
 
 Yea, I've had a problem (at times) - not that it gave the 
 wrong size, but
 that it choked and said the image size was a bad value or 
 something to that
 effect.  I don't remember the exact error message, but it 
 seemed to be that
 certian exact combinations of size and width together choked 
 it.  I got
 around it by ever so slightly re-sizing the images it choked on.
 
 Dave
 
 
 =
 "What we need is a list of specific unknown problems we will 
 encounter"
 
 David Hannum
 Web Analyst/Programmer
 Ohio University
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (740) 597-2524
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Juan Andres Alvarez Valenzuela" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 10:46 AM
 Subject: cf_imagesize
 
 
 by the way, I have a problem with cf_imagesize tag.
 I test cf_imagesize and everything was ok but it return me 
 wrong images
 sizes with some image files.
 
 anyone have the same problem ?
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Mark Warrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Newsgroups: cf-talk
 Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 6:27 PM
 Subject: RE: Image validation
 
 
 I could use that as CF_ImageSize tag well.
 
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  -Original Message-
  From: Roger Lim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 1:20 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: Image validation
 
 
  Nick,
 
  Can you send the tag to me? I really need that, thanks! ;))
 
  Roger
  - Original Message -
  From: DeVoil, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 4:06 PM
  Subject: RE: Image validation
 
 
   Roger
   Russ Michaels very kindly sent me CF_ImageSize which does 
 exactly that,
  I'm
   not sure if it's in the gallery. If not, let me know I could
  send it on to
   you assuming Russ doesn't mind.
   Nick
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Roger Lim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 6:42 AM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: Image validation
  
  
   Hi,
  
   Apparently I allow user to upload their image files into 
 my server,
  however
   I wish to check their image width and height, how do I go about
  doing that
  ?
  
   Thanks.
   Roger
  
  
  
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RE: 2nd Conference

2000-09-22 Thread Mark Warrick

This doesn't sound unusual to me at all.  In true Allaire style, they've appealed to 
the big companies with the fat pockets and left out the average folks who actually 
build all this stuff.

This is one of the reaons why Fusioneers.com com exists today.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Iztok Polanic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 5:58 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: 2nd Conference
 
 
 Hi!
 
 We received (some time ago) a notice from Allaire, that they will host the
 2nd Developer Conference in Washington D.C.  This conference is great ( I
 was at the 1st conference). But to my surprise the entrance fee 
 is $899 (or
 $799 if you register before July or something). THAT'S TOO 
 EXPENSIVE if you
 ask me!!! If you are from Europe, then you can't come, except if 
 you have a
 lot of money (entrace fee + plane tickets + hotel + spending money). Am I
 missing something?
 
 Bye,
 
 Iztok
 
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RE: Allaire Forums

2000-09-22 Thread Mark Warrick

Hi Melanie,

The Forums package by Allaire is cludgy and slow and a pain in the ass to setup, but 
once you get it up, it runs smoothly.   And for the price, it's  hard to compete.

But if you don't need all those security features that the Forums package has, I'm 
sure there's plenty of people on this list (myself included) who could write a much 
simpler bulletin board for the same price or less.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Smith, Melanie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 6:06 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Allaire Forums
 
 
 We're looking for a quick and dirty discussion forum/bulletin board
 application and have downloaded Allaire Forums.  YIKES...  It 
 seems a little
 error prone, example: we added a new user, registered, etc. then 
 it tells us
 it will be sending us an email notification and then it gives us 
 a nice big
 fat error message.  The only user that we can get working is the
 administrator - it works but is excruciatingly slow (almost to the point
 where we thought it had hung on us).  Would upgrading it to SQL 
 Server help
 or does it need a super-high powered server to work adequately?  
 I've found
 that posting messages on the Allaire Forum itself can sometimes be a trial
 in patience and I'm sure they know what they're doing so maybe 
 this product
 just isn't too hot.  Anyone have any suggestions for other CF-based
 forum/bulletin boards?  
 
 Thanks much,
 Melanie
 
 
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RE: ASP or Coldfusion?

2000-09-22 Thread Mark Warrick

You're asking that question on this list?

ColdFusion of course.

:)

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 -Original Message-
 From: Dean Alexandrou [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 7:01 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: ASP or Coldfusion?
 
 
 I am not sure what tool to use to develop quite a major site. I have heard
 that while coldfusion is good for small sites, ASP is more 
 robust, and would
 cope better with a large site that has to deal with a few thousand hits a
 week.
 
 
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Image Update

2000-09-22 Thread HappyToad.com

How do I create a form that will browse for an image and then update that
image in the directory and the image name in the table?

Thanks,
Rich


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Re: Allaire Forums

2000-09-22 Thread Adrian Cooper


- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Pierce" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 4:40 PM

Yes - this is the fix that worked for me:

http://www.allaire.com/Handlers/index.cfm?ID=1560Method=Full

Adrian Cooper.

 
 Do you have the manual workaround or can you point me to a link that tells
 me what I need to fix.
 
 Thanks!
 
  - Steve
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Adrian Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:11 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Allaire Forums
 
 
  There is a Verity problem with the default install,
  which needs a manual workaround.
 

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RE: ASP or Coldfusion - There is no Question

2000-09-22 Thread Steve Pierce

There is no question, both ASP and CF will scale well. What you have to ask
yourself. What if you want to move beyond an NT platform. Will ASP move with
you?

There are CF sites that are doing a million hits per day. We are hosting
almost 500,000 CF hits a day right here. By you estimate your site will do
100,000 hits per week. That is less than 15,000 hits per day. We are
handling 33 times that load and it is no sweat for CF, if you program it
right.

You can write junk code in ASP just as well as you can in CF. The programmer
is the number one factor in the success and performance of the site. Not the
tools.

ASP and CF will both scale well if done correctly.

 - Steve

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-Original Message-
From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 12:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: ASP or Coldfusion?


I have to disagree there are alot of sites that are very large and handle
more than 100K plus hits a week running Cold Fusion.  I think, as stated in
another reply earlier, it depends on who the developer is.  Junk code won't
scale while good code will.  Take that however you want.


- Original Message -
From: "Geoffrey V. Brown" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:45 AM
Subject: RE: ASP or Coldfusion?



 Hi,
 I'll offer my opinion, as I'm facing the same thing.  I have a site that
is
 going to be massive.  Cold Fusion simply could not hold up to the load,
and
 crashed repeatedly.  The site is about 99% data driven, so there is a lot
of
 data access going on.  I am now developing this site in ASP, and it seems
 far more stable.  We are generally getting 100k+ hits a week on this site.

 After seeing many large projects fail with cold fusion, I'd recommend
trying
 other options before going the CF route on a large project.  Note, I am a
 die hard CF developer, I feel that CF is good for smaller sites, less
hits,
 and allows for a faster development time than ASP... but it just doesn't
 hold up on larger projects.


  -Original Message-
  From: Dean Alexandrou [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 10:01 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: ASP or Coldfusion?
 
 
  I am not sure what tool to use to develop quite a major site. I have
heard
  that while coldfusion is good for small sites, ASP is more
  robust, and would
  cope better with a large site that has to deal with a few thousand hits
a
  week.
 
 
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RE: CF friendly URL Major Search Engine Design.

2000-09-22 Thread Juan Andres Alvarez Valenzuela

We have the same problem thanks to fusebox thing.
I realize some spider doesn`t index de index.cfm page again, no matter what
fuseaction the url have, always is the same page: index.cfm.
we had to use directories with redirection and precalculated pages but we
dont know if this may work. :)

any other ideas?

Juandres


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From: Kevin Merker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 12:20 PM
Subject: CF friendly URL Major Search Engine Design.


 I've been made aware that a drawback of CF is that the URL's are
 unfriendly to the major search engines. This is one benefit of the
 Fusebox architecture that bypasses the unfriendly normal CF designed
 URL's. Is there a work around that can be used to make CF URL's more
 search engine friendly? Does frame use come into play?
 I can't see developing a site that can not be easily found by the major
 search engines.
 Please help.

 Thanks
 KM

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RE: Select Tag

2000-09-22 Thread Mark Warrick

Hi Luis,

I'm sure with some creative javascript (which I'm not so good at) you could accomplish 
the desired affect, but another thing you could do is this:

If the client catalog does not exist in the drop down list, then the user should be 
able to add the new client catalog in a text box located just below the drop down 
list.  If you do it this way, there will be no screen refreshing needed at all.  Then 
when you process the insert script, you would insert the new client catalog name and 
grab the new ID for that name and use it for the subsequent insert query.

---mark

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 -Original Message-
 From: Ing. Luis J. Ramirez Flores [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 8:44 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Select Tag
 
 
 I hve a page that contains a form including many fields and a select 
 menu (combo box) containing information from a database, could ( 
 this select) be actualized only when the database change? That is
 I´m filling a order form that contains many information and one field 
 that contains a client catalog(select), If the client does not exist I 
 want to go to the clients form to add this, and I want to return to 
 the original form (order form) and select the last added client from 
 this order. This means that the order form should refresh the select 
 field. Could be refresh only a element from the entire form?
 
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RE: Crazy idea?

2000-09-22 Thread Zachary Bedell

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Oh my GAWD!  I'd LOVE open source CF.  Wouldn't surprise me if
Allaire has half a dozen software patents on various parts of it,
tho...

At least with an open source solution, bugs might get fixed in less
than six months time  And it's not like Allaire support is worth
a darn anyways...

Granted, it's a bit out of my league to code it.  Maybe it could be
done as a language plugin for the Zend engine? (See Zend.com)

It might be a crazy idea, but it's also a very good one...

Regards,
Zac Bedell

 -Original Message-
 From: Juan Andres Alvarez Valenzuela [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 11:46 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Crazy idea?
 
 
 any topic about a Coldfusion Open source ? 
 what about CFML especs ? any ideas ?
 
 is it a crazy idea to have a GNU Coldfusion servers ? 

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RE: Line count of 1600 files?

2000-09-22 Thread Adrian Cesana

You would think it would be the reverse, the thinnest code that gets the job
done wins!...

-Adrian

-Original Message-
From: Peter Theobald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]


Many years ago I worked for a large Japanese Multinational and my manager,
who was (is) very respected there actually told us once "a good programmer
is known by the quantity of code he generates."

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Complaint about Allaire Support was Reason for Allaire Stocks

2000-09-22 Thread Steve Pierce

I can tell you I just called on Friday about a problem. Allaire resolved the
problem in 24 hours, gave me links for updated code and drivers, and then
sent out a CD Rom to replace the defective one we had.

The service was fast, friendly and their answers solved the problem.

There is always room for improvement and yes disasters happen with even the
best support. I just wanted to point out, that Allaire can and more often
than not, gets the support problem solved the first time.

I have found that some, and I am not saying you, but some people who
complain the loudest about poor support are also the ones who do not have a
support contract or are unwilling to open a paid ticket and then bitched
about the 'free' support. If you want tech support over the phone these
days, you are going to have to pay. That isn't Allaire forcing this. That is
throughout the software industry.

And yes I know that everyone of us has a paid support ticket nightmare. All
I wanted to point out is, not every call goes unanswered and not every
problem is left unresolved.

Finally, I have listened in on numerous tech support calls over the years.
In my experience, over half the time, customers talked down to the tech,
were rude, raised their voices and never once said please or thank you. If
people treated a waitress like this in a restaurant, you would end up with a
glass of ice tea poured over your head.

Yes this is business and problems costs us money, but there is still room
for politeness, even when your server is down.

 - Steve

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-Original Message-
From: William J Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 11:06 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: Reason for Alliare Stocks


Ok let me say first that I LOVE COLDFUSION and i've used it for 4 years
now.

but i will say that i'm starting to become disilliusioned (sp) by the
service i've recieved
from allaire, it seems like everytime i try to buy one of there products not
only do i have to wait on hold for 20-50 minutes but i get crappy help, i
tell the sales guy want i want and he tells me what HE wants me to buy and
since i tell him no i dont want to buy 7 Licenses right now and spend
30,000, and the words where not right now, i would have bought them from
this guy Mark B. in a few months but he said OH no i want them by the end of
this month. And i had to just stop and say WAIT a second,
you are the Sales guy i am the customer that wants to give you money. I know
to him 5000 is not alot of cash but we're going to have to spend upwards of
30,000 in licenses eventually and he does not think that is good enough. So
he sends me a quote and then i answer via email saying OK we're just going
to do 1 copy of CF ENT for Linux and i mean he was so unhelpfull he did not
answer his email for several hours he was upset i asked for the fax # he
told me wrong ifnormation just to shut me up because we called 5 minutes
after his hours ended so he did not want to help.

Now i'm a very easy going guy but when a person that is supposed to be
working for a company to ENHANCE its reputation and marketshare by
developing a special sense of loyalty. By making the customer feel that you
actually give a damn about him and are not just in this for your commission
check. I know people are trying to make a living but dont do it at the
expense of making your customers feel like you dont have enough time in the
day for them.

Luckily enough John with Customer Relations really saved the day by being
helpful, understanding and actually taking a damn minute to listen to my
problems and make me feel like i was important.
So possibly the problem with allaires stock is that people are getting the
same trouble that i am.
And one thing i would recommend allaire to do is get MORE people to answer
the darn phone so you dont have to sit on hold forever, but if you cant do
that at least get sales people that dont make me feel like crap. We may be
no microsoft or IBM, but we've referred our fair share of people to use CF
and we've given our fair share of money to Allaire when they were nobodies
still making CGI code, and for that type of loyalty they have hired sales
people that dont make us feel like we mean anything to them.

Thanks for Letting me Vent



Bill Wheatley
IT DIRECTOR
AEPS INC
http://www.aeps.com
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Re: ASP or Coldfusion?

2000-09-22 Thread Richard Fantini

Then you truly must be doing something wrong...

Our main site does over 1.2 million hits a week with extremely heavy
database and CF processing.  The CF machine is a Dual PII 400, 512mb RAM and
a RAID array... The database hardware is identical, and is running SQL7.
That's it, no clustering or anything like that.  We rarely ever have a
problem with CF.  The code has been optimized on the heavily hit pages but
there is still a decent amount of older quick and dirty stuff.  I don't have
a clue as to how you were crashing the server with only 100,000 hits... but
I'm willing to bet it was your code.

-Rich


- Original Message -
From: "Geoffrey V. Brown" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 10:45 AM
Subject: RE: ASP or Coldfusion?



 Hi,
 I'll offer my opinion, as I'm facing the same thing.  I have a site that
is
 going to be massive.  Cold Fusion simply could not hold up to the load,
and
 crashed repeatedly.  The site is about 99% data driven, so there is a lot
of
 data access going on.  I am now developing this site in ASP, and it seems
 far more stable.  We are generally getting 100k+ hits a week on this site.

 After seeing many large projects fail with cold fusion, I'd recommend
trying
 other options before going the CF route on a large project.  Note, I am a
 die hard CF developer, I feel that CF is good for smaller sites, less
hits,
 and allows for a faster development time than ASP... but it just doesn't
 hold up on larger projects.




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missing files from book

2000-09-22 Thread Richard Kern

Does anyone have the files missing from the book
CF3.0 Intranet Application Development Toolkit by JR Desborough?

If so, would you share them with me?

Thanks,

RIchard Kern
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National Radio Commercial

2000-09-22 Thread Dave Hannum

Dice.com just had a national radio commercial that showcased a "ColdFusion
specialist", as they called him,  that doubled his previous salary by using
Dice.com.


=
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File Creation Problems

2000-09-22 Thread Paul Johnston

Guys,

We are having problems with CFFILE and CFINDEX for one of our sites.  The
problem is that for both of these tags, a file of 0kb is created but nothing
is put into them (ie it's 0kb).

Does anyone have a fix/patch for this? Is is NT or CF that has the problem?

It doesn't appear to be a CF error, but it could be, which is why I'm
posting here.

Any help much appreciated.

Paul


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