Re: Future of the internet
Sometimes I like to get really wasted on a Friday night, too. Thanks for sharing. Jim - Original Message - From: Douglas Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 10:33 PM Subject: Future of the internet I know this is way OT, but I had to put my thoughts into words. Myself and a friend were discussing the outlook of technology, and one of the things that we discussed, was what we felt the future held for web technology. We both agreed that the web has to transform into something more than the sum of it's parts. Our feeling on the subject is that Macromeda/Allaire is at the forefront of what the web can and should be. Macromedia Flash is still in it's infancy when you look at the amount of sites that incorporate flash technology and those who do not. Now the reason for this is well known as being not enough high bandwith connections, but that is changing at an enormous rate. With Macromedia's acquisition of Allaire and dynamic data driven content, there should be no end in site as far as development goes. I thought at one point that their were not enough Coldfusion jobs and I should take the time to learn a few secondary languages. Although that still holds true as far as the amount of Coldfusion jobs, I think that once Flash and Coldfusion merge into one beautiful application development tool that we will be begging for the jobs to slow down. We thoughtwhat would it be like to open your Macromedia Flash Browser (No more clumsy Internet Explorer or Netscape) What a joy surfing would be !!! Imagine shopping online without having to drill down 10 layers to finally checkout. When you clicked on a product, another window would slide open and you would enter your info and voila done!! If there is any company that could stand toe to toe with the Microsoft Monopoly on the internet, it is in fmy opinion Macromedia/Allaire. Thanks for listening to my rants...I am just tired of hearing all this negative Macromedia Talk (IE: Death of Coldfusion) __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
form troubles
Nothing is selected when this form loads until the user clicks inside the select box. Then the form autosubmits via the onclick= Problem is that This form submits a form.submit=DeleteType even though they clicked on the select box, NOT the Submit Button. This ONLY happens on a Mac running IE I'm clueless as to why? Would appreciate any insight. Code below: - form action=file.cfm method=POST Select name=PT_ID size=6 onclick=this.form.submit() option value=1SomeItem/option option value=2SomeOtherItem/option /SELECT input type=Submit name=Submit value=DeleteType input type=Submit name=Submit value=EditType input type=Submit name=Submit value=Add Type /form - Thanks to anyone with a clue, Brian __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Future of the internet
Jim, To Funny Thanks for making me laugh! It's been a loong night. At 02:12 AM 2/9/02 -0700, you wrote: Sometimes I like to get really wasted on a Friday night, too. Thanks for sharing. Jim - Original Message - From: Douglas Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 10:33 PM Subject: Future of the internet I know this is way OT, but I had to put my thoughts into words. Myself and a friend were discussing the outlook of technology, and one of the things that we discussed, was what we felt the future held for web technology. We both agreed that the web has to transform into something more than the sum of it's parts. Our feeling on the subject is that Macromeda/Allaire is at the forefront of what the web can and should be. Macromedia Flash is still in it's infancy when you look at the amount of sites that incorporate flash technology and those who do not. Now the reason for this is well known as being not enough high bandwith connections, but that is changing at an enormous rate. With Macromedia's acquisition of Allaire and dynamic data driven content, there should be no end in site as far as development goes. I thought at one point that their were not enough Coldfusion jobs and I should take the time to learn a few secondary languages. Although that still holds true as far as the amount of Coldfusion jobs, I think that once Flash and Coldfusion merge into one beautiful application development tool that we will be begging for the jobs to slow down. We thoughtwhat would it be like to open your Macromedia Flash Browser (No more clumsy Internet Explorer or Netscape) What a joy surfing would be !!! Imagine shopping online without having to drill down 10 layers to finally checkout. When you clicked on a product, another window would slide open and you would enter your info and voila done!! If there is any company that could stand toe to toe with the Microsoft Monopoly on the internet, it is in fmy opinion Macromedia/Allaire. Thanks for listening to my rants...I am just tired of hearing all this negative Macromedia Talk (IE: Death of Coldfusion) __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: form troubles
oi Brian!! isn't that because form.submit is still a form element? I am suprised you are not getting a form.submit=DeleteType,EditType,Add Type ? -- Best regards, Critter [critz.org] - Saturday, February 9, 2002, 4:57:05 AM, you wrote: BS Nothing is selected when this form loads until the user clicks inside the select box. Then the form autosubmits via the onclick= BS Problem is that This form submits a form.submit=DeleteType even though they clicked on the select box, NOT the Submit Button. BS This ONLY happens on a Mac running IE BS I'm clueless as to why? Would appreciate any insight. BS Code below: BS - BS form action=file.cfm method=POST BS Select name=PT_ID size=6 onclick=this.form.submit() BS option value=1SomeItem/option BS option value=2SomeOtherItem/option BS /SELECT BS input type=Submit name=Submit value=DeleteType BS input type=Submit name=Submit value=EditType BS input type=Submit name=Submit value=Add Type BS /form BS - BS Thanks to anyone with a clue, BS Brian BS __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: ucvhost.com/
Well, I have to say that their plans look good: http://ucvhost.com/pricing.html But they're offering CF 4.5, not 5.0. A DNS lookup shows that they are owned by Instaspace, which is based in New Delhi. If you don't hear back from them soon, I might suggest looking into Internet Design 2000 at http://www.internetdesign2000.com/ (they're the only host with pricing plans anywhere close to what ucvhost is offering). Good Luck! Hatton Humphrey -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 12:10 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ucvhost.com/ Never heard of them, never delt with them. However, when you tell someone I want to give you business and you don't hear anything for a couple of weeks, it is time to either give your business to someone else or pick up the phone. I've had good luck with both CFXHosting and cfdynamics. At 06:31 PM 02/08/2002 -0700, you wrote: Dear ColdFusion folks: I recently tried to start a website on ucvhost.com, but waiting for them to confirm the site and the steps to set it up, I have waited several weeks and sent several emails. (It was recommended by someone who uses CF.) Does anyone have connections with ucvhost.com, or a site hosted there, and have you had any problems getting them to respond? -- Sincerely, Bob Trotter 214 N. Nielson St. Gilbert, AZ 85234 480.632.6342 480.332.6415 cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Generic Hosting Contract
Thanks Dan. This was a great start. We are not a general hosting company but much of this applies. Duane -Original Message- From: Dan Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 9:47 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Generic Hosting Contract I don't know if it's what you are looking for but out Terms of Service are at http://cfxhosting.com/terms.cfm It's basically the contract that the customer agrees to when they sign up with us. Dan Phillips CFXHosting.com -Original Message- From: Duane Boudreau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 9:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Generic Hosting Contract Does anyone have a generic hosting contract they would mind sharing? Just the basic things covering liability, loss of business, etc. Thanks, __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Projects feature of Studio??
Hello cf-talk, Just curious, do many of you actually use the Projects feature of Studio? Is it really useful? I still use a separate FTP utility to do most of this work. Best regards, Jeff Fongemie mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Composed on Saturday, February 09, 2002, at 10:11:26 AM __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: form troubles
Here are some guesses: 1. Change the names of your submit buttons to something else instead of Submit. This has caused me problems with JS confusing the Submit button with the submit() method. Try something like input type=Submit name=SubmitButton value=DeleteType for all the buttons. 2. change your OnCLick to onclick=document.form.submit() It's even a better practice to name your form in the form tag and submit() using that name: form action=file.cfm method=POST name=MyWonderfulForm Select name=PT_ID size=6 onclick=document.MyWonderfulForm.submit() Hope that helps. craig - Original Message - From: Brian Scandale [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 3:57 AM Subject: form troubles Nothing is selected when this form loads until the user clicks inside the select box. Then the form autosubmits via the onclick= Problem is that This form submits a form.submit=DeleteType even though they clicked on the select box, NOT the Submit Button. This ONLY happens on a Mac running IE I'm clueless as to why? Would appreciate any insight. Code below: - form action=file.cfm method=POST Select name=PT_ID size=6 onclick=this.form.submit() option value=1SomeItem/option option value=2SomeOtherItem/option /SELECT input type=Submit name=Submit value=DeleteType input type=Submit name=Submit value=EditType input type=Submit name=Submit value=Add Type /form - Thanks to anyone with a clue, Brian __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Future of the internet
I think the future of the internet will be soemthing like this: http://www.curl.com/ I haven't learned the language, but it does everything that HTML, Javascript, CSS, DHTML and even some of Flash and Coldfusion from ONE object-oriented language. I think Flash is great for design and animation, but its a real bitch to make a desktop style application out of it or to make all of its content dynamic, especially without generator. Plus, Curl is free for developers. It doesn't replace your scripting language (CFML, ASP, JSP, PHP,etc) because it is entirely client side. But that is where it shines and it definitely gives Flash a run for its money in the web application arena as far as ease of use. Craig - Original Message - From: Douglas Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 11:33 PM Subject: Future of the internet I know this is way OT, but I had to put my thoughts into words. Myself and a friend were discussing the outlook of technology, and one of the things that we discussed, was what we felt the future held for web technology. We both agreed that the web has to transform into something more than the sum of it's parts. Our feeling on the subject is that Macromeda/Allaire is at the forefront of what the web can and should be. Macromedia Flash is still in it's infancy when you look at the amount of sites that incorporate flash technology and those who do not. Now the reason for this is well known as being not enough high bandwith connections, but that is changing at an enormous rate. With Macromedia's acquisition of Allaire and dynamic data driven content, there should be no end in site as far as development goes. I thought at one point that their were not enough Coldfusion jobs and I should take the time to learn a few secondary languages. Although that still holds true as far as the amount of Coldfusion jobs, I think that once Flash and Coldfusion merge into one beautiful application development tool that we will be begging for the jobs to slow down. We thoughtwhat would it be like to open your Macromedia Flash Browser (No more clumsy Internet Explorer or Netscape) What a joy surfing would be !!! Imagine shopping online without having to drill down 10 layers to finally checkout. When you clicked on a product, another window would slide open and you would enter your info and voila done!! If there is any company that could stand toe to toe with the Microsoft Monopoly on the internet, it is in fmy opinion Macromedia/Allaire. Thanks for listening to my rants...I am just tired of hearing all this negative Macromedia Talk (IE: Death of Coldfusion) There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and [Unix] BSD. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. Doug Brown __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: form troubles
Hi, I would just break this form into 2 separate forms and pass the ID as a hidden field within. Encapsulate your select element in the first form, and the ADD/Edit/Delete in another form tag pair. This makes it easier logic wise. - Original Message - From: Brian Scandale [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nothing is selected when this form loads until the user clicks inside the select box. Then the form autosubmits via the onclick= Problem is that This form submits a form.submit=DeleteType even though they clicked on the select box, NOT the Submit Button. This ONLY happens on a Mac running IE I'm clueless as to why? Would appreciate any insight. Code below: - form action=file.cfm method=POST Select name=PT_ID size=6 onclick=this.form.submit() option value=1SomeItem/option option value=2SomeOtherItem/option /SELECT input type=Submit name=Submit value=DeleteType input type=Submit name=Submit value=EditType input type=Submit name=Submit value=Add Type /form - Thanks to anyone with a clue, Brian __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Future of the internet
The idea may be good but charging developers every month for the execution of their code is ridiculous. I'd rather purchase a development platform license (like CF and Flash) and not have to pay a monthly fee based on the success of my site. Howie - Original Message - From: Fregas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 10:38 AM Subject: Re: Future of the internet I think the future of the internet will be soemthing like this: http://www.curl.com/ I haven't learned the language, but it does everything that HTML, Javascript, CSS, DHTML and even some of Flash and Coldfusion from ONE object-oriented language. I think Flash is great for design and animation, but its a real bitch to make a desktop style application out of it or to make all of its content dynamic, especially without generator. Plus, Curl is free for developers. It doesn't replace your scripting language (CFML, ASP, JSP, PHP,etc) because it is entirely client side. But that is where it shines and it definitely gives Flash a run for its money in the web application arena as far as ease of use. Craig - Original Message - From: Douglas Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 11:33 PM Subject: Future of the internet I know this is way OT, but I had to put my thoughts into words. Myself and a friend were discussing the outlook of technology, and one of the things that we discussed, was what we felt the future held for web technology. We both agreed that the web has to transform into something more than the sum of it's parts. Our feeling on the subject is that Macromeda/Allaire is at the forefront of what the web can and should be. Macromedia Flash is still in it's infancy when you look at the amount of sites that incorporate flash technology and those who do not. Now the reason for this is well known as being not enough high bandwith connections, but that is changing at an enormous rate. With Macromedia's acquisition of Allaire and dynamic data driven content, there should be no end in site as far as development goes. I thought at one point that their were not enough Coldfusion jobs and I should take the time to learn a few secondary languages. Although that still holds true as far as the amount of Coldfusion jobs, I think that once Flash and Coldfusion merge into one beautiful application development tool that we will be begging for the jobs to slow down. We thoughtwhat would it be like to open your Macromedia Flash Browser (No more clumsy Internet Explorer or Netscape) What a joy surfing would be !!! Imagine shopping online without having to drill down 10 layers to finally checkout. When you clicked on a product, another window would slide open and you would enter your info and voila done!! If there is any company that could stand toe to toe with the Microsoft Monopoly on the internet, it is in fmy opinion Macromedia/Allaire. Thanks for listening to my rants...I am just tired of hearing all this negative Macromedia Talk (IE: Death of Coldfusion) There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and [Unix] BSD. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. Doug Brown __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF and Active edit
Although hundreds of universities already use ActivEdit for what you are describing, there are a couple of issues you should be aware of. ActivEdit uses the MSDHTML ActiveX control which is part of IE and Window s. Mac and Netscape are not yet supported. IE imposes a 65K limit on textareas. ActivEdit content that exceeds that limit must be captured before the ae_onSubmit() function which is trigger ed by form.submit() and split. Word content includes special formatting tags that can for example make a 60 character table into a 1200 character table and since cut and paste operations do not always include the Word stylesheet, formatting is not always preserved. Using a databse with ActivEdit is the only way to go in my opinion. You s ave the ActivEdit form variable to a database, query the database for the content in the web page and output it somewhere in the page. This gives y ou the ability to maintain control over the look and feel of the site while handing over content management duties over to others which improves productivity and makes content more interesting. Assigning permissions for users is done with your login script. I've buil t sites that handle this dynamically as well. I grant permissions to the ro ot directory to the system administrator who can then assign permissions to other content managers. The other content managers can assign permissions to others under their directory tree. Here is an example of a site where content management is done entirely by people within the organization who don't have web development skills. http://www.newenergy.com/ The content managers can edit, add and delete pages, images and links within the site. We'll be adding support for Mac and Netscape in the next version of ActivEdit and are working on a separate custom tag to clean Word content. Greg Alton CFDev - Original Message - From: Tangorre, Michael T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 8:25 PM Subject: CF and Active edit Hello. I was wondering if anyone used activeedit from www.cfdev.com . I was thinking that it may work for my following issue: I have alot of people on campus that want documents and little paragrap hs online, but they want to be able to edit and format them whenever they want. The kicker is that they do not want anyone to do it but them and they a lso do not know HTML or any WYSWYG editors. I thought maybe they could copy and paste their information into a text area on a form, editing it with act ive edit, then I could store that in a DB (SQL Server 2K) and then output i t from there. I am not sure of a few things: 1. Could this be too much information to store in a DB? 2. Would it be better to write the formatted text area to a text file t hen just include it? 3. Am I just way off base and this is not possible :-) Thanks for any input. __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
WANTED: cfObjects, SmartObjects, Fusebox people
Opinions please: I'm involved on working out SmartObjects 2.0 (the bastard stepchild in Coldfusion methodologies) and I would like to hear from anyone using cfObjects, SmartObjects or even Fusebox 3 what you feel is missing from those methodologies that would make development easier. What do you like and dislike? I think we are putting together a solid framework that will organize and ease development. Some of the core features we are working on are: 1. The ability to drop SmartObjects' object-oriented components into any existing application written in any methodology or just plain CFML. 2. An event system that allows for events like Form submissions, clicking links, etc. to be handled dynamically in a different manner from one part of an application to another. For example, you may have a signup form that you want to submit to a thank you page on the front end of your site, but use the same form in an admin tool to submit, update the database record, and then cflocation back to itself. 3. The ability to declare protected and private methods so small pieces of functionality do not intertwine from one part of an application to another in a tangled mess. In fusebox, I had the problem of having fuseactions with CFINDLUDES like this: cfinclude template=../../../admin/candidate/qry_somethign.cfm Having Protected and Private methods lets you decide what you do and do not want to share ahead of time. 4. The ability to return a value (such as a string, query, structure) from a coldfusion page in a similar manner that UDF's do and put that value into the variable of your choice. This solves some problems that custom tags often have where they overwrite their caller's variable or set variables not wanted. I realize that a lot of people will say you should just use Java or ASP if you want OOP web development, but there are a lot of hardcore Coldfusion people out there that like having an organized, OO framework with the ease of CFML development. Even Fusebox has some OOP style features. I have also heard rumors that NEO will add some OOP features to CFML. I have been using an alpha version of SmartObjects 2.0 and it has produced some very clean and flexible code in my company's shopping cart, promotional tools and mainframe integration. My boss had never used SmartObjects before and was very impressed with the results (He is a Coldfusion/VB/COM developer.) SmartObjects 1.6 can be found at http://www.smart-objects.com/ Please contact me with your thoughts at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Craig __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Future of the internet
That is a problem with their licensing but their technology is sound, I think. The licensing may eventually change though. And only large companies using production software are charged in this manner. Craig - Original Message - From: Howie Hamlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 9:47 AM Subject: Re: Future of the internet The idea may be good but charging developers every month for the execution of their code is ridiculous. I'd rather purchase a development platform license (like CF and Flash) and not have to pay a monthly fee based on the success of my site. Howie - Original Message - From: Fregas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 10:38 AM Subject: Re: Future of the internet I think the future of the internet will be soemthing like this: http://www.curl.com/ I haven't learned the language, but it does everything that HTML, Javascript, CSS, DHTML and even some of Flash and Coldfusion from ONE object-oriented language. I think Flash is great for design and animation, but its a real bitch to make a desktop style application out of it or to make all of its content dynamic, especially without generator. Plus, Curl is free for developers. It doesn't replace your scripting language (CFML, ASP, JSP, PHP,etc) because it is entirely client side. But that is where it shines and it definitely gives Flash a run for its money in the web application arena as far as ease of use. Craig - Original Message - From: Douglas Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 11:33 PM Subject: Future of the internet I know this is way OT, but I had to put my thoughts into words. Myself and a friend were discussing the outlook of technology, and one of the things that we discussed, was what we felt the future held for web technology. We both agreed that the web has to transform into something more than the sum of it's parts. Our feeling on the subject is that Macromeda/Allaire is at the forefront of what the web can and should be. Macromedia Flash is still in it's infancy when you look at the amount of sites that incorporate flash technology and those who do not. Now the reason for this is well known as being not enough high bandwith connections, but that is changing at an enormous rate. With Macromedia's acquisition of Allaire and dynamic data driven content, there should be no end in site as far as development goes. I thought at one point that their were not enough Coldfusion jobs and I should take the time to learn a few secondary languages. Although that still holds true as far as the amount of Coldfusion jobs, I think that once Flash and Coldfusion merge into one beautiful application development tool that we will be begging for the jobs to slow down. We thoughtwhat would it be like to open your Macromedia Flash Browser (No more clumsy Internet Explorer or Netscape) What a joy surfing would be !!! Imagine shopping online without having to drill down 10 layers to finally checkout. When you clicked on a product, another window would slide open and you would enter your info and voila done!! If there is any company that could stand toe to toe with the Microsoft Monopoly on the internet, it is in fmy opinion Macromedia/Allaire. Thanks for listening to my rants...I am just tired of hearing all this negative Macromedia Talk (IE: Death of Coldfusion) There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and [Unix] BSD. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. Doug Brown __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Future of the internet
And only large companies using production software are charged in this manner. Not according to their site: Licensed - for individuals or organizations that publish Curl content that is not personal and is not under development. __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Future of the internet
yeah, its in the fine print, or it was. I had talked to them at some length and they said they had a license for small companies (under 500 employees or something) that was free of charge. Unless they changed their licensing issues in which case, they will be shooting themselves in the foot. - Original Message - From: Ken Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 10:19 AM Subject: RE: Future of the internet And only large companies using production software are charged in this manner. Not according to their site: Licensed - for individuals or organizations that publish Curl content that is not personal and is not under development. __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Looping over code and seperating out links
I need to loop over a page that just contains links to companies in it
and separate out each link to be put into a database. I tried the
following code:
CFHTTP.../CFHTTP
CFSET variables.start = a HREF=
CFSET variables.end = /a
CFSET variables.orginal_content =#variables.final_content#
CFSET variables.edit_content=RefindNoCase('#variables.start#',
variables.orginal_content)
CFSET variables.final_edit_content=RefindNoCase('#variables.end#',
variables.orginal_content, variables.edit_content)
CFSET variables.final_content=mid(variables.orginal_content,
variables.edit_content,
variables.final_edit_content-variables.edit_content)
As I expected, this just pulled the first link out. How would I loop
over something like this to get each one, which will be put directly
into a database as it's own record. Could be anywhere from 10-200 links,
changes often.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Thank you,
Jim Vosika
SoftwareSuperMall.Com
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CF and MySQL
Hello. I am never used MySQL before but have been asked to do a project using CF and MySQL. Does MySQL have in interface similar to SQL Server to use? how to you go about creating the DB.. do you have to use SQL statements to generate the DB? Can anyone offer a quick rundown of how MySQL works or perhaps point me to some websites? TIA, Mike __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF and MySQL
MySQL is pretty easy. I too just did a project not having known mySQL and am used to MS-SQL. The mySQL web site was extremely helpful and told me everything I wanted to know. There is also a graphical user interface you can download that is similar to SQL Query that I found to be extremely helpful. Here is the web site. http://www.mysql.com I actually had a project already done in MS-SQL and had to convert it to mySQL. There are a ton of programs that can take your MS-SQL and script out the mySQL for you. That's how I created my tables in MySQL. If you have any other questions, feel free to email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks - Tracy *** Tracy Smith TCS Technologies, LLC Web Development Programming President http://www.tcstech.net Phone: (888) 318-9840 Fax: (202) 478-0897 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Tangorre, Michael T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 12:46 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF and MySQL Hello. I am never used MySQL before but have been asked to do a project using CF and MySQL. Does MySQL have in interface similar to SQL Server to use? how to you go about creating the DB.. do you have to use SQL statements to generate the DB? Can anyone offer a quick rundown of how MySQL works or perhaps point me to some websites? TIA, Mike __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF and MySQL
There is a great MySQL manager called Mascon. http://www.scibit.com/Products/Software/Utils/Mascon.htm I don't remember if you could make databases in it directly. You may have to do that from command line. But almost everything else can be done from Mascon. Craig - Original Message - From: Tangorre, Michael T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 11:45 AM Subject: CF and MySQL Hello. I am never used MySQL before but have been asked to do a project using CF and MySQL. Does MySQL have in interface similar to SQL Server to use? how to you go about creating the DB.. do you have to use SQL statements to generate the DB? Can anyone offer a quick rundown of how MySQL works or perhaps point me to some websites? TIA, Mike __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF and MySQL
Michael, You're a Windows user, right? The following only applies to Win. In and of itself mySQL doesn't come with a front end. Probably the best 3rd-party gui is at http://mysqlfront.de. You will be able to do anything you want with this, most likely. To install mySQL on your server download the windows executable from http://mysql.com/downloads/index.html. Note that v4.0 is still classed as an alpha despite its being plastered all over their site. I'd suggest downloading 3.23.48 for this reason alone. While you're there download myODBC so you can set up your datasources. The new v3.51 is classed as 'developmental', although you have to dig to see that label. Use either it or v2.5 depending on the feature set you need (v2.5 should be fine for almost anything you can throw at it with CF). Note they can coexist on the same server so you can install both if you like. Then run the installer for mySQL. When its done run the appropriate mySQL executable file. Probably mysqld-nt.exe. This will set it up as an automatic service. Then install myODBC. Get rid of their admin utility if it wants to install itself in the system tray. When both are in place you need to set up your dsn's. Since CF doesn't natively support mySQL you'll need to install your datasources manually with the Windows Datasources control panel applet (Settings/Control Panel/Administrative Tools/Data Sources). CF will be able to see them automatically once you do this. Set them up as System dsn's So much for setup. To use the thing you can use either CF and SQL to manage your tables or the graphical front end I mentioned earlier. A lot of times its faster just to create a Create Table template than wade thru a gui, but that's up to you. Cheers, --Matt Robertson-- MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com -Original Message- From: Tangorre, Michael T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 9:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF and MySQL Hello. I am never used MySQL before but have been asked to do a project using CF and MySQL. Does MySQL have in interface similar to SQL Server to use? how to you go about creating the DB.. do you have to use SQL statements to generate the DB? Can anyone offer a quick rundown of how MySQL works or perhaps point me to some websites? TIA, Mike __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: ucvhost.com/
Finally got the issue resolved late Friday night. Found out (surmising here) that someone apparently misread my email address. The techie online said their records showed they'd sent me three or four emails, all returned as undeliverable. Thanks to all who responded. I have noted your responses in case something else goes amiss. Bob C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: Well, I have to say that their plans look good: http://ucvhost.com/pricing.html But they're offering CF 4.5, not 5.0. A DNS lookup shows that they are owned by Instaspace, which is based in New Delhi. If you don't hear back from them soon, I might suggest looking into Internet Design 2000 at http://www.internetdesign2000.com/ (they're the only host with pricing plans anywhere close to what ucvhost is offering). Good Luck! Hatton Humphrey -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 12:10 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ucvhost.com/ Never heard of them, never delt with them. However, when you tell someone I want to give you business and you don't hear anything for a couple of weeks, it is time to either give your business to someone else or pick up the phone. I've had good luck with both CFXHosting and cfdynamics. At 06:31 PM 02/08/2002 -0700, you wrote: Dear ColdFusion folks: I recently tried to start a website on ucvhost.com, but waiting for them to confirm the site and the steps to set it up, I have waited several weeks and sent several emails. (It was recommended by someone who uses CF.) Does anyone have connections with ucvhost.com, or a site hosted there, and have you had any problems getting them to respond? -- Sincerely, Bob Trotter 214 N. Nielson St. Gilbert, AZ 85234 480.632.6342 480.332.6415 cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Projects feature of Studio??
Just curious, do many of you actually use the Projects feature of Studio? Is it really useful? I still use a separate FTP utility to do most of this work. There are a couple of cases in which the Projects feature can be useful, I think. If you're doing any kind of unusual deployment stuff, you can handle that very well using Projects, and if you're using source control, you get some extra benefits there as well. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Cannot open database
All of a sudden we're getting this error when ColdFusion tries to access any of our Access 97 databases: ODBC Error Code = S1000 (General error) [Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] Cannot open database '(unknown)'. It may not be a database that your application recognizes, or the file may be corrupt. I'm still waiting for word from our sysadmin, but as far I know nothing has changed on the server (regarding the location or permissions of the database). I've downloaded the database files and used Access to 'repair' them, re- uploaded them, and the problem remains. I can even query the databases from CF Studio, but not through ColdFusion pages. Does anyone have any suggestions? (Yes I know--ditch Access. Anything besides that?) Thanks, Owen Athens County Library Services __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Detecting file-types on upload
If I use the Accept attribute of cffile (ACCEPT=image/gif,image/pjpeg) to accept *just* GIFs and JPEGs, and a user uploads say a bitmap, how can I leave them a custom-error rather than the CF-produced error? I need to do a Cfif loop on file.serverfile, but I've not dealt with file-types before I'd appreciate any help Thanks Will --- A woman drove me to drink and I didn't even have the decency to thank her. --W.C. Fields __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Cannot open database
Have you tried repairing it? (Tools / Database Utilities / Compact and Repair) Will - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: gradwell.lists.cftalk Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 8:44 PM Subject: Cannot open database All of a sudden we're getting this error when ColdFusion tries to access any of our Access 97 databases: ODBC Error Code = S1000 (General error) [Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] Cannot open database '(unknown)'. It may not be a database that your application recognizes, or the file may be corrupt. I'm still waiting for word from our sysadmin, but as far I know nothing has changed on the server (regarding the location or permissions of the database). I've downloaded the database files and used Access to 'repair' them, re- uploaded them, and the problem remains. I can even query the databases from CF Studio, but not through ColdFusion pages. Does anyone have any suggestions? (Yes I know--ditch Access. Anything besides that?) Thanks, Owen Athens County Library Services __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Cannot open database
Have you tried repairing it? (Tools / Database Utilities / Compact and Repair) Yes. If the database file was corrupt, wouldn't I not be able to interact with it through ColdFusion Studio? -- Owen All of a sudden we're getting this error when ColdFusion tries to access any of our Access 97 databases: ODBC Error Code = S1000 (General error) [Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] Cannot open database '(unknown)'. It may not be a database that your application recognizes, or the file may be corrupt. __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Cannot open database
My suggestion is to remove the db, remove the datasource, replace the db file with a recently repaired and Compacted' version and recreate the datasource. This has worked for us before. Tony Gruen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 12:40 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Cannot open database All of a sudden we're getting this error when ColdFusion tries to access any of our Access 97 databases: ODBC Error Code = S1000 (General error) [Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] Cannot open database '(unknown)'. It may not be a database that your application recognizes, or the file may be corrupt. I'm still waiting for word from our sysadmin, but as far I know nothing has changed on the server (regarding the location or permissions of the database). I've downloaded the database files and used Access to 'repair' them, re- uploaded them, and the problem remains. I can even query the databases from CF Studio, but not through ColdFusion pages. Does anyone have any suggestions? (Yes I know--ditch Access. Anything besides that?) Thanks, Owen Athens County Library Services __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Cannot open database
Owen, I've had that problem before where a corrupt record in the database caused the problem. Chances are (not positive, but highly probable) that the newest entry in the database is the culprit. Try, in access to delete or edit that entry. Should fix things for you. Dave - Original Message - From: Owen Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 4:26 PM Subject: Re: Cannot open database Have you tried repairing it? (Tools / Database Utilities / Compact and Repair) Yes. If the database file was corrupt, wouldn't I not be able to interact with it through ColdFusion Studio? -- Owen All of a sudden we're getting this error when ColdFusion tries to access any of our Access 97 databases: ODBC Error Code = S1000 (General error) [Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] Cannot open database '(unknown)'. It may not be a database that your application recognizes, or the file may be corrupt. __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: form troubles
Critter, Both Netscape and IE (windows versions) do NOT submit a 'form.submit=' element when clicking on the select box and having the onclickthis.form.submit submit the form. That's way cool because multiple Submit buttons can be trapped for which of several in the form were clicked to submit it... (in the windows browsers anyway). In the example I gave there are four possible actions: 1. the select box was clicked 2. the DELETE button was clicked 3. the EDIT button was clicked 4. the ADD button was clicked When I first tied this I expected the string you suggested but nope... the form.field=submit does not even exist... This is cool don't you think? Except the weird behavior in the mac browser. ..just read another response... gonna have to check out his suggestions too. At 05:46 AM 2/9/02 -0500, you wrote: oi Brian!! isn't that because form.submit is still a form element? I am suprised you are not getting a form.submit=DeleteType,EditType,Add Type ? -- Best regards, Critter [critz.org] - Saturday, February 9, 2002, 4:57:05 AM, you wrote: BS Nothing is selected when this form loads until the user clicks inside the select box. Then the form autosubmits via the onclic= BS Problem is that This form submits a form.submit=DeleteType even though they clicked on the select box, NOT the Submit Button. BS This ONLY happens on a Mac running IE BS I'm clueless as to why? Would appreciate any insight. BS Code below: BS - BS form action=file.cfm method=POST BS Select name=PT_ID size=6 onclick=this.form.submit() BS option value=1SomeItem/option BS option value=2SomeOtherItem/option BS /SELECT BS input type=Submit name=Submit value=DeleteType BS input type=Submit name=Submit value=EditType BS input type=Submit name=Submit value=Add Type BS /form BS - BS Thanks to anyone with a clue, BS Brian BS __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Database Timeout Problem? (NT error 202)
Jonah, 109 and 232 are broken pipe errors and are the result of a lost connection between the server and the browser. The common reason that a user has stopped waiting for the request, generally by clicking the back button or stop or refresh. However they could also be the result of a loss in connection such as modem shut down, power outage, or any other common loss of connectivity. If you are seeing a great deal of 109 and 232 errors my first question would be how long is the user waiting for a response and is that an acceptable amount of time? The second question would be do they know they are supposed to wait x number of seconds? I do not believe that your server becomeing non-responsive is the direct result of these errors, your probably getting these errors more often as your server becomes unstable until it stops. Thus makeing it a perception error, if your user does not percieve your system to be responding he/she will most likely try again... and again.. etc.. till they add an additional significant amout of load thus forceing your server to respond even more slowly. Jason From: jonah.blossom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Database Timeout Problem? (NT error 202) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 16:18:05 -0800 Greetings, We have a CF 5/spectra 1.51 server in a DMZ. The MSSQL 2000 database server is sitting behind the firewall. The server stops responding after a while and usually has to have a hard reboot to bring it back to life. We're experiencing a LOT of errors like the below in our server.log: Error,2884,02/08/02,12:12:56,,Error number 232 occurred attempting to close connection to web server. Error,2884,02/08/02,12:12:56,,Windows NT error number 232 occurred. Error,2884,02/08/02,12:12:56,,Unable to write reply -- client browser stopped waiting for request. Error,2884,02/08/02,12:12:56,,Windows NT error number 109 occurred. I've read that this may be related to database connections timing out? There IS pretty high latency between the two servers because of the routers, firewalls, etc. Have any of you experienced this and what are some fixes for it? TIA, jonah -- jonah.blossom senior[architect] impossible, inc. You can't build a reputation on what you are going to do. __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Database Timeout Problem? (NT error 202)
That makes sense. We are also experiencing some performance issues with the site. The real fix for this is to re-code some certain aspects of the application so that they will execute much more efficiently. But, In the meantime while we're doing this - are there any CF server settings that should be tweaked or looked at to keep the server alive until we can optimize the code. Thanks, jonah Jason Heaslet wrote: Jonah, 109 and 232 are broken pipe errors and are the result of a lost connection between the server and the browser. The common reason that a user has stopped waiting for the request, generally by clicking the back button or stop or refresh. However they could also be the result of a loss in connection such as modem shut down, power outage, or any other common loss of connectivity. If you are seeing a great deal of 109 and 232 errors my first question would be how long is the user waiting for a response and is that an acceptable amount of time? The second question would be do they know they are supposed to wait x number of seconds? I do not believe that your server becomeing non-responsive is the direct result of these errors, your probably getting these errors more often as your server becomes unstable until it stops. Thus makeing it a perception error, if your user does not percieve your system to be responding he/she will most likely try again... and again.. etc.. till they add an additional significant amout of load thus forceing your server to respond even more slowly. Jason From: jonah.blossom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Database Timeout Problem? (NT error 202) Greetings, We have a CF 5/spectra 1.51 server in a DMZ. The MSSQL 2000 database server is sitting behind the firewall. The server stops responding after a while and usually has to have a hard reboot to bring it back to life. We're experiencing a LOT of errors like the below in our server.log: Error,2884,02/08/02,12:12:56,,Error number 232 occurred attempting to close connection to web server. Error,2884,02/08/02,12:12:56,,Windows NT error number 232 occurred. Error,2884,02/08/02,12:12:56,,Unable to write reply -- client browser stopped waiting for request. Error,2884,02/08/02,12:12:56,,Windows NT error number 109 occurred. I've read that this may be related to database connections timing out? There IS pretty high latency between the two servers because of the routers, firewalls, etc. Have any of you experienced this and what are some fixes for it? TIA, jonah __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: form troubles
Fregas, OK, tried it... Changed to SubmitButton ...Now SubmitButton=DeleteType instead of Submit=DeleteType ...so still same problem. Changed to SubmitButton AND document.MyForm.submit() ...still same problem. Whew! I'm still clueless here, Brian At 09:33 AM 2/9/02 -0600, you wrote: Here are some guesses: 1. Change the names of your submit buttons to something else instead of Submit. This has caused me problems with JS confusing the Submit button with the submit() method. Try something like input type=Submit name=SubmitButton value=DeleteType for all the buttons. 2. change your OnCLick to onclick=document.form.submit() It's even a better practice to name your form in the form tag and submit() using that name: form action=file.cfm method=POST name=MyWonderfulForm Select name=PT_ID size=6 onclick=document.MyWonderfulForm.submit() Hope that helps. craig - Original Message - From: Brian Scandale [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 3:57 AM Subject: form troubles Nothing is selected when this form loads until the user clicks inside theselect box. Then the form autosubmits via the onclic= Problem is that This form submits a form.submit=DeleteType even though they clicked on the select box, NOT the Submit Button. This ONLY happens on a Mac running IE I'm clueless as to why? Would appreciate any insight. Code below: - form action=file.cfm method=POST Select name=PT_ID size=6 onclick=this.form.submit() option value=1SomeItem/option option value=2SomeOtherItem/option /SELECT input type=Submit name=Submit value=DeleteType input type=Submit name=Submit value=EditType input type=Submit name=Submit value=Add Type /form - Thanks to anyone with a clue, Brian __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Cannot open database
Chances are (not positive, but highly probable) that the newest entry in the database is the culprit. Try, in access to delete or edit that entry. Dave, is the corruption visible in the data? There's a lot of tables in the main database, so it would be a lot of stuff to sift through. Also: Why would several different database files be inaccessible? It's highly unlikely that they were all accessed around the same time. -- Owen __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Detecting file-types on upload
How about using CFCATCH and CFTRY in your application?
cftry
cffile action=UPLOAD filefield=FileFildName
destination=FileServerPath\ nameconflict=MAKEUNIQUE accept=image/gif
cfcatch type=Any
cfset ErrMsg = 'You have entered an invalid file type. The only allowed
file types are .jpg and .gif'
/cfcatch
/cftry
cfif LEN('ErrMsg')
cfoutput
#ErrMsg#
cfabort
/cfoutput
/cfif
- Original Message -
From: W Luke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 3:00 PM
Subject: Detecting file-types on upload
If I use the Accept attribute of cffile (ACCEPT=image/gif,image/pjpeg)
to
accept *just* GIFs and JPEGs, and a user uploads say a bitmap, how can I
leave them a custom-error rather than the CF-produced error? I need to do
a
Cfif loop on file.serverfile, but I've not dealt with file-types before
I'd appreciate any help
Thanks
Will
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RE: One more CF/Flash integration question
Hi Scott,
You problem doesn't appear to be a frame not loading correctly. It's more
of a variable loading issue. I'm assuming your movie is going to the
targetted frame before your variables have fully loaded. A good practice
might be to use the onClipEvent(data) event that will wait until your
variables are loaded and then call your function. Another practice that you
can use is to load your variables as in your aarons_variables.cfm template
and append loaded=1 to the end of your query string. Then in Flash you can
load in Frame 1 and do the following:
Frame 1:
// load variables
Frame 2:
// blank frame
Frame 3:
// if (loaded==1) {
gotoAndStop(4);
} else {
gotoAndPlay(2);
}
This will loop between frames 2 and 3 until your variables are loaded. When
the variables are fully loaded the timeline will be sent to frame 4. I hope
this makes sense and feel free to email me if you have any futher questions.
Also, you might want to check out the FlashCFM mailing list that covers
Flash/CF integration: www.flashcfm.com/mailing_list.cfm.
Regards,
Dennis
-Original Message-
From: Scott Brady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 4:31 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: One more CF/Flash integration question
OK, this may not actually be CF related, so if it's off-topic, let me know.
In the Flash file I was having NS problems with before, after I read in the
variables, I have the movie jump to a specific frame (dependent on what the
fileName variable is).
However, sometimes, it APPEARS that it's trying to go to a frame before a
frame is loaded. I've tried doing a preload procedure (basically, do a loop
in the action script that runs until _framesLoaded == _totalFrames), but
that doesn't seem to do it.
As an example, go to http://www.scottbrady.net/mountain_spas/ and click on
Covers. There should be 7 menu choices after you click on Covers (and the
logo should be complete). However, often, there are only 5 (which is how
many menu choices there are on the initial screen). If you hit refresh, it
should show all 7 choices (the last one is Shipping).
Is this probably a preloading problem?
Scott
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RE: form troubles
Try using the onChange event on the select box. Dunno why you're usi ng the onclick event. -Original Message- From: Brian Scandale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: February 9, 2002 2:57 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: form troubles Nothing is selected when this form loads until the user clicks inside theselect box. Then the form autosubmits via the onclic= Problem is that This form submits a form.submit=DeleteType even t hough they clicked on the select box, NOT the Submit Button. This ONLY happens on a Mac running IE I'm clueless as to why? Would appreciate any insight. Code below: - form action=file.cfm method=POST Select name=PT_ID size=6 onclick=this.form.submit() option value=1SomeItem/option option value=2SomeOtherItem/option /SELECT input type=Submit name=Submit value=DeleteType input type=Submit name=Submit value=EditType input type=Submit name=Submit value=Add Type /form - Thanks to anyone with a clue, Brian _ _ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: form troubles
One way you could solve your problem is to not submit the form if the y use the select box. Rather, do something like onClick=location.href='template.cfm?id='+this.value Oh yeah, forget about the onChange thingy, didn't notice you had a si ze attribute on your select box :) -Original Message- From: Kwang Suh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: February 9, 2002 10:10 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: form troubles Try using the onChange event on the select box. Dunno why you're usi ng the onclick event. -Original Message- From: Brian Scandale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: February 9, 2002 2:57 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: form troubles Nothing is selected when this form loads until the user clicks inside theselect box. Then the form autosubmits via the oncli= Problem is that This form submits a form.submit=DeleteType even t hough they clicked on the select box, NOT the Submit Button. This ONLY happens on a Mac running IE I'm clueless as to why? Would appreciate any insight. Code below: - form action=file.cfm method=POST Select name=PT_ID size=6 onclick=this.form.submit() option value=1SomeItem/option option value=2SomeOtherItem/option /SELECT input type=Submit name=Submit value=DeleteType input type=Submit name=Submit value=EditType input type=Submit name=Submit value=Add Type /form - Thanks to anyone with a clue, Brian _ _ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists _ _ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
mySQL ODBC in CF Administrator
I've just installed the Windows ODBC driver for mySQL on a Win2k/IIS5/CF5 server. Is there a way to get it to appear on CF Administrator's ODBC DSN page so that mySQL DSN's can configured through the Administrator? Thanks, Jim __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: mySQL ODBC in CF Administrator
You have to enable/manage mySQL dsns thru the Windows ODBC control panel applet, although CF can verify them once you've plugged them in. Unfortunately CF doesn't directly support mySQL in the Administrator. Simple enough if you have server admin access, but on a shared host you'd be out of luck. --Matt Robertson-- MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com -Original Message- From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 11:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: mySQL ODBC in CF Administrator I've just installed the Windows ODBC driver for mySQL on a Win2k/IIS5/CF5 server. Is there a way to get it to appear on CF Administrator's ODBC DSN page so that mySQL DSN's can configured through the Administrator? Thanks, Jim __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
