Re: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
Last time I set up an html mail (2 weeks ago), I had to redo it because people couldn't read it using their NS 4.5 mail client. Go figure. - Original Message - From: Steve Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 5:24 AM Subject: RE: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? It's an assumption on my part, looks like everyone else thinks differently. I guess there could be a few people out there running NS 4.7 on a 75mhz computer, not worrying about upgrading anything because it does what they need. __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
hi, i dont like the argument used my some people that if netscape has 5% of the market, and your site doesnt work for them you will have a 5% drop in sales. That assumes that 100% of people that go to your site are buying - so you would be getting 95% sale rate which is pretty great! i hear this all the time - and it drives me nuts. my 2 cents - i make the site viewable in netscape - accepting some weirdo table problems etc - as long as it can be viewed. c Even if the percentage of users for all wacko browsers is just ... say .. 5%. Are you willing to take a 5% drop in sales for an unknown duration? Like others I not only still see NN3 users... I'm still seeing AOL 3 on a site where about 10% of users are on AO-Hell - the typical site demographic is an affluent, college-educated, married male in his mid-forties. 5-8% is about right for *all* NN users on that site right now. Bah. --Matt Robertson-- MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
CSS is by far the simplest obstacle to overcome. Detect the browser and use the appropriate sub/superset of CSS that makes the site palatable. JavaScript and simple HTML, on the other hand can be a freaking nightmare. I balance it on development costs vs. the cost of telling N% of visitors that I could care less if the site looks good to them. Usually, I opt for the least expensive solution. Take a wild guess which one that usually is... Jim - Original Message - From: Rey Bango [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 10:40 PM Subject: Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? Hi Howard. The CSS issue was one of the main reasons that I started this post. I was working on a site and implemented some design elements using styles that really enhanced the appearance of the site. I actually did test it out in Netscape 6.2 as well as IE 5.5 and both rendered the site beautifully. The pain came in when I loaded up Netscape 4.7x. The site was just non-functional and it really irritated me. So it prompted me to do some homework to determine what other developers were doing. Based on the feedback so far, its seems prudent to continue to support Netscape. I just wish that a baseline of Netscape 6.0 could be established but such a meaningful percentage of NS 4.7 users still out there, it appears that some workarounds will still be needed. Sigh... Thanks for your input. Rey/// - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:17 AM Subject: RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? The site I mentioned in my previous e-mail is also an RV site. About the same traffic. Average age of registered users is 56. My biggest problem isn't NS users, it's WebTV users. Currently, we only get about 1.5 percent WebTV, but I get complaints from them all of the time. Not so much design, but a lot of functionality (javascripts, form submissions, picture uploads) don't work or don't work as well or work inconsistently with WebTV (thought I haven't received a complaint in several months, so maybe WebTV has improved). The redesign I'm working on right now looked great in IE. It totally falls apart in NS 4.7. It's totally useless in 4.7. And my code is W3 validated. But CSS is a huge problem. My solution will probably be to do a browser redirect and send NS users to a totally stripped down version of the site. It will pretty much be just black text, white background and links and forms. No design. I want to have a site that useable for those 7 percent, but with such a small audience, I'm not going to waste a lot of time on it. As far as I'm concerned (and this is just a personal opinion and how I approach site building), IE's won. H. -Original Message- From: Tom Nunamaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 8:09 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? We run an RV Classified site with about 40,000 visitors per month. The average age of Rver's is in their early 60's. Believe it or not, about 1.5% of our visitors use Netscape 3.0. We've had to code in FONT tags with the CSS classes so it didn't look horrible in NS 3.0 Tom Nunamaker -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 10:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? Here's my .02 cents I'm leaning towards giving more consideration to the Netscape 6.0 above but I'm not ready to declare Netscape 4.75 dead. I think there's still about 10 percent of the internet users that are using Netscape 4.75. Netscape 6.0 is coming along real nicely and I've seen some users jumping over from IE to Netscape 6.0. It would make sense if someone would overlook some of the small design differences between Netscape 4.75 and 6.0 +. However, I wouldn't go too far in ignoring some of the glaring layout differences. The clients we work with generally have no understanding why there's a browser war, why netscape 4.75 doesn't support some of the HTML tags as well as IE does and etc. It would hurt the contractors' reputation if they were to ignore 4.75 as of now. If anyone wants to work with IE 5.5 and Netscape 6.0+ exclusively then there are almost zero differences between those versions. It'll make your job much easier. I have a small site tracking system on my site and every one user in about 10 or 15 users are showing up with a 4.75 version. So I have no choice but to design sites for 3 different versions. Thus, I'd recommend you do the same thing. For the longest time, I've coded my sites to take into account Netscape users but with the ever-dwindling numbers
Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
A site for which we develop wanted all kinds of whiz-bang neato DHMTL and all kinds of extraneous crap and enhancements extraordinaire. We gave it to them, only supporting IE 5+. In the last 4 months their traffic is up 40% to 50%. Did the Opera and Netscape and AOL 2 users fall away as a result? Who cares. Everybody is happy. Life is good. Life is simple again. Jim - Original Message - From: Rey Bango [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 9:22 PM Subject: Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? Nick, Great points bud. The main reason that I'm asking the development community is because I wanted to gauge what everyone else was doing. This list has such a diverse talent pool that it really gives you a good indication as to new trends in ecommerce development. Notice that we've had varying replies that go from one extreme to the next. That's why it was so important to me to pose the question here. Thanks again for your feedback. Keep it coming. Rey... - Original Message - From: Nick Texidor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 11:06 PM Subject: Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? I'm not sure what the general consensus is, but in my opinion, I would continue to code for Netscape, and also consider Opera too. If everyone gives up coding for the other browsers, then it's game over, MS will not only own your personal machines, but the internet too!The other option of course is those people who don't run IE will simply not return to your sites, and from where I sit, I see a few more people looking at the alternatives to windows than there were just a few months ago. I think you need to put the question to your clients, not the developers. Most of the CF list probably wouldn't care a jot if they only had to develop for IE. But their clients may be a little more caring! The last thing you want to do is go to a client and say 'we'll code it for IE', only to receive a call a week after it goes live saying 'my mate said he can't view the site'... the client isn't going to be too happy. IMHO, code for the biggest market, because people will simply not return to your site if the only way they can see it is to have to download another browser. All our sites are tested under different browsers on several platforms. We still have clients that use Netscape as their main browser. We all use different browsers internally too, I prefer to use Opera, and occasionally Netscape, on Linux, and for the one site that forces me to use IE (Internet Banking), I switch on my NT box (although I'm looking at switching banks because of this very reason). Our designers either use Netscape or IE, but both on the Mac platform. Just my thoughts. N Rey Bango wrote: For the longest time, I've coded my sites to take into account Netscape users but with the ever-dwindling numbers of Navigator afficianados and IE's continued growth, I've been wondering if I should even bother worrying about whether my sites work with Netscape. Since this has been one of my best resources for info and some of the most talented and savvy people that I've met post to CF-Talk, I was hoping that I could get some good feedback. So, if we consider that the apps that I'm developing will be geared towards the Internet consumer at large and I won't have the luxury of developing for a controlled environment like a corporate intranet, I beg the question: Should I continue to worry about Netscape? If so, which version should serve as a baseline? Looking forward to your responses. C-ya, Rey... __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
DDB Lists wrote: Last time I set up an html mail (2 weeks ago), I had to redo it because people couldn't read it using their NS 4.5 mail client. Go figure. I usually store HTML mail in /dev/null. Go figure ;) Jochem __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Date Range Query by Month/Year
yep you can use CVDate() or Cdate depending on the access version to turn a string into a date. e.g where CVDate( Month '01/' '/' Year) between #Oct/01/2001# and #Feb/01/2002# -Original Message- From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 February 2002 21:34 To: CF-Talk Subject: Date Range Query by Month/Year I've been handed an Access table which has columns for Month and Year, but no actual date or date/time columns. Is there any way that I can construct a query that pulls records for a range of months? For example, from 10/2001 to 02/2002? Could it be done somehow by using a database function to synthesize date columns, that is, by turning Month and Year into a 'real' date of Month-01-Year? Thanks, Jim __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: cfftp action=CHANGEDIR
Hi, Does the CHANGEDIR action change the directory on the local or remote pc? This directory does exist on the server. I get this error... Error Diagnostic Information 550 c:\test\fonts\pfb: The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect. __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
Ugh. I am fighting this battle right now at work. I hate the fact that instead of being able to code a standards-compliant web site (which would allow me to focus most of my attention on actually building the application), I have to employ hacks and workarounds just so I can support the 8% of our site users that are using a browser whose lineage dates back 4.5+ years (Netscape 4.0 came out in June 1997). CSS standards? Nope. Predictable HTML output? Nope. Yet the situation at my current employer demands nothing less -- too few people to do too much work. By being able to focus on standards rather than workarounds, we can get much more work done in less time. Don't like the way the site looks in Netscape 4.08? Upgrade your browser, plain and simple...much better ones exist. I am pushing towards only supporting browsers based upon what their standards support is. HTML 4.01 and CSS1 full (OK, 95%) compliance is what I would like, which pretty much includes MSIE 4+, Mozilla, NS 6+, and Opera. Personally, I think all browsers should time bomb after 2 years, so that users are forced to upgrade from time to time. Pete - Original Message - From: Rey Bango [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 10:42 PM Subject: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? For the longest time, I've coded my sites to take into account Netscape users but with the ever-dwindling numbers of Navigator afficianados and IE's continued growth, I've been wondering if I should even bother worrying about whether my sites work with Netscape. Since this has been one of my best resources for info and some of the most talented and savvy people that I've met post to CF-Talk, I was hoping that I could get some good feedback. So, if we consider that the apps that I'm developing will be geared towards the Internet consumer at large and I won't have the luxury of developing for a controlled environment like a corporate intranet, I beg the question: Should I continue to worry about Netscape? If so, which version should serve as a baseline? Looking forward to your responses. C-ya, Rey... __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: I am searching for a fast and stable xml parser
I've use cf_xmlparser myself quite a bit, it's very, very fast under load when compared to cf_soxml and is also easier to use imho. -Original Message- From: Sandy Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 February 2002 02:24 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: I am searching for a fast and stable xml parser Try cf_xmlparser from cfdev.com Written in Java, fast and works great in the small apps I have done with it. http://www.cfdev.com/xml/xmlparser/ Sandra Clark Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion 5.0 Developer Shayna Productions http://www.shayna.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Thorsteinn_E._Jónsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 6:53 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: I am searching for a fast and stable xml parser Me too Cheers Steini - Original Message - From: Martin Orth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 4:39 PM Subject: I am searching for a fast and stable xml parser Hi, currently I am using cf_soxml with microsoft xml parsing technology. With high server load this is not stable with cf 5.0. Any recomendations for a better solution? Thanks Martin -- cfsolutions - Martin Orth Hornstrasse 127 - 51465 Bergisch Gladbach - Germany Tel. +49 (0)2202 86 25 12 - Fax +49 (0)2202 86 25 13 __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Accessing FoxPro database
Unless your CF Service is running as the interactive user then CF will not see any drive letters, you will need to use UNC coding. Also, you need to make sure that whatever user CF is running as has rights to the file. In our case we ended up creating a special user that CF runs as that we can then give rights to specific information on other servers. So to summarize what we did was: 1) Created a CF user for the service to run as. 2) Granted rights to the CF User to the data that CF needed to access. 3) Created an ODBC connection to the directory where the FoxPro tables are using UNC coding. I.E. the path would be \\ServerB\TheShare\pro50\ARDATA 4) Do the following: cfquery datasource=foxprodsn name=getsodata debug SELECT custno FROM arcust10 /cfquery That should do it. __ Bill Grover Supervisor MIS Phone: 301.424.3300 x3324 EU Services, Inc. FAX:301.424.3696 649 North Horners Lane E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD 20850-1299WWW:http://www.euservices.com __ -Original Message- From: Andres [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 12:15 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Accessing FoxPro database Hello All, I am trying to access a foxpro database. This database is stored in server A, while the Cold Fusion and web server is located in server B. Server B has all the odbc connections set to read and access the foxpro files in server A. When i try to run the following query i get an error: cfquery datasource=foxprodsn name=getsodata debug SELECT custno FROM S:\pro50\ARDATA\arcust10.dbf /cfquery This is the error i get: ODBC Error Code = S0002 (Base table not found) [Microsoft][ODBC Visual FoxPro Driver]File 'arcust10.dbf' does not exist. The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of (CFQUERY), occupying document position (9:1) to (9:56). I've also tried these other ways: SELECT custno FROM 'S:\pro50\ARDATA\arcust10.dbf' and... SELECT custno FROM arcust10.dbf and... SELECT custno FROM 'arcust10.dbf' and... SELECT custno FROM arcust10 and... SELECT custno FROM 'arcust10' I've also made sure the table DOES EXIST... and that i have access to this mapped drive (s drive). I have also ensured that the odbc settings point to the right location. Any ideas will be most appreciated. __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
I just had to get in on this one ... While there really isn't much debating that the browser war is over (which is as much Netscape's fault for releasing junk as it is Microsoft's for predatory practices), IMHO anyone that doesn't account for some 4.x version of Netscape when developing sites (intranets aside of course) is just being lazy and not doing their job. Those of us that have been developing for a fair amount of time have been fighting with this since day one. It's called site usability. We as developers I think tend to get tunnel vision. Just because we are technically adept we think that the average person is as well. The reality is that the average joe on the web just wants to read his email, find a good deal on Ebay, do a little research on products, and keep up with his/her favorite hobbies, and read the latest news. And he/she is doing it on a 56k modem. They don't care if they have the latest and greatest browser. What they have is working (as far as they know), and they don't want to wait for 4 hours to download the latest piece of bloatware. I for one am all for standards. It would be great if we didn't have this mess to deal with. But then there's reality. The reality is we have had to deal with this for years, and it isn't going away for awhile. While it is part of our job description to keep up with technology, the average person just doesn't want to deal with the headaches. There are millions of people still using older browsers at 800x600 (and even 640x480) resolution. If developers spent a little more time making their sites usable for the average person, instead of incorporating all this Flash and fancy imagery and DHTML and all this other stuff that people don't want to wait 5 minutes to download, the web would be a better place for everyone. Granted, these things have their place, and their time will come, but not until the average user is using something a little better than a simple dialup connection. And I don't see that happening anytime too soon. People just want to find their information, they don't want to wait all day for it to download, and they want it to be viewable with the browser they are using. not the one the developer tells them they need. The internet worked fine when it was a bunch of geeks writing basic HTML, and just because the world of print and multimedia designers on their Macintosh computers decided that we could do all this fancy design and Flash and all this other wiz bang stuff doesn't mean that it's necessarily the right thing to do. My .02, and sorry for ranting Mike Alberts Tue, 19 Feb 2002 22:42:59 -0500 From: Rey Bango [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? Message-ID: 019b01c1b9c0$b18928a0$[EMAIL PROTECTED] For the longest time, I've coded my sites to take into account Netscape users but with the ever-dwindling numbers of Navigator afficianados and IE's continued growth, I've been wondering if I should even bother worrying about whether my sites work with Netscape. Since this has been one of my best resources for info and some of the most talented and savvy people that I've met post to CF-Talk, I was hoping that I could get some good feedback. So, if we consider that the apps that I'm developing will be geared towards the Internet consumer at large and I won't have the luxury of developing for a controlled environment like a corporate intranet, I beg the question: Should I continue to worry about Netscape? If so, which version should serve as a baseline? Looking forward to your responses. C-ya, Rey... FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Request Scope.
Hi all, Can any of you explain to me why the request scope is useful, if indeed, it is? It is one of the few scopes I am unfamiliar with. Can it be used to enhance my code? Regards, Martin. __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
Yes, I understand the argument is flawed, but the root idea is sound. You can't place barriers to usability without paying some sort of penalty. Mike Alberts post is right on with this, imho. --Matt-- From: list peters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] hi, i dont like the argument used my some people that if netscape has 5% of the market, and your site doesnt work for them you will have a 5% drop in sales. That assumes that 100% of people that go to your site are buying - so you would be getting 95% sale rate which is pretty great! __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Request Scope.
I use the request scope because those variables are (as I understand it) available globally -- in templates, app.cfm, and custom tag files. Pete - Original Message - From: Martin Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 8:08 AM Subject: Request Scope. Hi all, Can any of you explain to me why the request scope is useful, if indeed, it is? It is one of the few scopes I am unfamiliar with. Can it be used to enhance my code? Regards, Martin. __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Datatypes
text = varchar or nvarchar number = integer (but can be split into float, smallint, decimal, tinyint depending on the actual data you're storing) None of those number datatypes let me specify the length. Any recommendations on what datatype to use that will let me specify the length (for numbers)? I'm not sure what you mean by length for numbers. Numeric fields aren't used in the same way that character fields are. When you create a character field, you can specify how many characters can be placed in the field. With numeric fields, you can choose the exact numeric field type that allows you to store the largest number in the range of numbers that you might want to store. For example, in SQL Server, an integer field lets you store numbers between -2,147,483,648 and 2,147,483,647; a bigint field can store numbers between -2^63 (-9,223,372,036,854,775,808) and 2^63-1 (9,223,372,036,854,775,807); a smallint field can store numbers between -32,768 and 32,767; a tinyint field can store numbers between 0 and 255. Note that for any of these fields, the actual length of the field within the record is going to be some specified number of bytes: 1, 2, 4 or 8 for tinyint, smallint, integer, and bigint respectively. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Request Scope.
Think of the Request scope like Session scope for a single HTTP request. Variables set in the Request scope are available to all templates accessed during that single request. For example you could read a Request scope variable in that was set in a custom tag. Unlike Session variables Request scope variables are single threaded and therefore do not have to be locked when you read and write them. I hope that helps you see how they can be very useful in developing applications. Regards, Dan Rosenbaum Wachovia Securities Corporate Investment Banking [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Martin Sutton [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 8:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Request Scope. Hi all, Can any of you explain to me why the request scope is useful, if indeed, it is? It is one of the few scopes I am unfamiliar with. Can it be used to enhance my code? Regards, Martin. __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Flash Graphing
Yeah, it is actually pretty easy to make graphs in Flash. I have some good libraries I can show you, contact me off list for details. You may wish to consider the value of building this yourself over purchasing a commercial package (or upgrading to CF 5). I've found the cost of building, testing, debuging, and deploying a good Flash graphing solution (*especially if you want it to have drill down capability) generally exceeds the price of buying one of the good ones that are already out there. My personal fave is the one from Corda, which just beats CF_Graph in so many ways it is not funny. http://www.corda.com For the record, I am not employed by Corda, just a happy user. Mike -Original Message- From: Phillip Broussard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 4:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF Flash Graphing Does any one know of a way to make graphs with Flash? I can get the values into Flash but how do I make the graphs? They need to be something like what you get in Excel. Any ideas? Thanks Phillip Broussard Tracker Marine Group 417-873-5957 __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
We get the same thing from our WebTV users... also a small, but vocal percentage. I've also noticed a drop in complaints, though. My impression is that the latest version of WebTV can support Java and whatnot pretty well, but I'm not sure if it's even being sold anymore. The price of regular PC's has come down so low that one wonders why anyone would buy a clumsy device like a webtv. -- jon - jon roig online community services manager epilepsy foundation tel: 215.850.0710 site: http://www.epilepsyfoundation.org email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:17 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? The site I mentioned in my previous e-mail is also an RV site. About the same traffic. Average age of registered users is 56. My biggest problem isn't NS users, it's WebTV users. Currently, we only get about 1.5 percent WebTV, but I get complaints from them all of the time. Not so much design, but a lot of functionality (javascripts, form submissions, picture uploads) don't work or don't work as well or work inconsistently with WebTV (thought I haven't received a complaint in several months, so maybe WebTV has improved). The redesign I'm working on right now looked great in IE. It totally falls apart in NS 4.7. It's totally useless in 4.7. And my code is W3 validated. But CSS is a huge problem. My solution will probably be to do a browser redirect and send NS users to a totally stripped down version of the site. It will pretty much be just black text, white background and links and forms. No design. I want to have a site that useable for those 7 percent, but with such a small audience, I'm not going to waste a lot of time on it. As far as I'm concerned (and this is just a personal opinion and how I approach site building), IE's won. H. -Original Message- From: Tom Nunamaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 8:09 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? We run an RV Classified site with about 40,000 visitors per month. The average age of Rver's is in their early 60's. Believe it or not, about 1.5% of our visitors use Netscape 3.0. We've had to code in FONT tags with the CSS classes so it didn't look horrible in NS 3.0 Tom Nunamaker -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 10:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? Here's my .02 cents I'm leaning towards giving more consideration to the Netscape 6.0 above but I'm not ready to declare Netscape 4.75 dead. I think there's still about 10 percent of the internet users that are using Netscape 4.75. Netscape 6.0 is coming along real nicely and I've seen some users jumping over from IE to Netscape 6.0. It would make sense if someone would overlook some of the small design differences between Netscape 4.75 and 6.0 +. However, I wouldn't go too far in ignoring some of the glaring layout differences. The clients we work with generally have no understanding why there's a browser war, why netscape 4.75 doesn't support some of the HTML tags as well as IE does and etc. It would hurt the contractors' reputation if they were to ignore 4.75 as of now. If anyone wants to work with IE 5.5 and Netscape 6.0+ exclusively then there are almost zero differences between those versions. It'll make your job much easier. I have a small site tracking system on my site and every one user in about 10 or 15 users are showing up with a 4.75 version. So I have no choice but to design sites for 3 different versions. Thus, I'd recommend you do the same thing. For the longest time, I've coded my sites to take into account Netscape users but with the ever-dwindling numbers of Navigator afficianados and IE's continued growth, I've been wondering if I should even bother worrying about whether my sites work with Netscape. Since this has been one of my best resources for info and some of the most talented and savvy people that I've met post to CF-Talk, I was hoping that I could get some good feedback. So, if we consider that the apps that I'm developing will be geared towards the Internet consumer at large and I won't have the luxury of developing for a controlled environment like a corporate intranet, I beg the question: Should I continue to worry about Netscape? If so, which version should serve as a baseline? Looking forward to your responses. C-ya, Rey... Nathaniel Horwitz mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: NRHorwitz Fax: 510-573-2298 Web Site: http://www.nathanielhorwitz.com What separates winning from losing is the head. The brain sometimes doesn't believe in the power of the body __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server
RE: only one MD5 hash?
For all you interested in various hash algorithms with CF, check out the security library at www.cflib.org. I have UDF versions of MD5, SHA-1, SHA-256, and Rimemd-160. All of the source code is available for free. -Rob FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
One more opinion about browsers - Somebody needs to raise the bar. If we all coded using present W3C standards and 5-10% of the population can't view it properly, then that's their fault, not the coder's. Not everybody can always use the latest and greatest features, but they should be forced to at some point, shouldn't they? The way I see it, those viewers using netscape 4.x and lower should be forced to deal with crappy pages, unusable javascript, and non-functioning CSS. It might persuade them to upgrade to a browser which works, AND is free as well. Progress waits for nobody. - Matt Small -Original Message- From: jon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 9:23 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? We get the same thing from our WebTV users... also a small, but vocal percentage. I've also noticed a drop in complaints, though. My impression is that the latest version of WebTV can support Java and whatnot pretty well, but I'm not sure if it's even being sold anymore. The price of regular PC's has come down so low that one wonders why anyone would buy a clumsy device like a webtv. -- jon - jon roig online community services manager epilepsy foundation tel: 215.850.0710 site: http://www.epilepsyfoundation.org email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:17 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? The site I mentioned in my previous e-mail is also an RV site. About the same traffic. Average age of registered users is 56. My biggest problem isn't NS users, it's WebTV users. Currently, we only get about 1.5 percent WebTV, but I get complaints from them all of the time. Not so much design, but a lot of functionality (javascripts, form submissions, picture uploads) don't work or don't work as well or work inconsistently with WebTV (thought I haven't received a complaint in several months, so maybe WebTV has improved). The redesign I'm working on right now looked great in IE. It totally falls apart in NS 4.7. It's totally useless in 4.7. And my code is W3 validated. But CSS is a huge problem. My solution will probably be to do a browser redirect and send NS users to a totally stripped down version of the site. It will pretty much be just black text, white background and links and forms. No design. I want to have a site that useable for those 7 percent, but with such a small audience, I'm not going to waste a lot of time on it. As far as I'm concerned (and this is just a personal opinion and how I approach site building), IE's won. H. -Original Message- From: Tom Nunamaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 8:09 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? We run an RV Classified site with about 40,000 visitors per month. The average age of Rver's is in their early 60's. Believe it or not, about 1.5% of our visitors use Netscape 3.0. We've had to code in FONT tags with the CSS classes so it didn't look horrible in NS 3.0 Tom Nunamaker -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 10:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? Here's my .02 cents I'm leaning towards giving more consideration to the Netscape 6.0 above but I'm not ready to declare Netscape 4.75 dead. I think there's still about 10 percent of the internet users that are using Netscape 4.75. Netscape 6.0 is coming along real nicely and I've seen some users jumping over from IE to Netscape 6.0. It would make sense if someone would overlook some of the small design differences between Netscape 4.75 and 6.0 +. However, I wouldn't go too far in ignoring some of the glaring layout differences. The clients we work with generally have no understanding why there's a browser war, why netscape 4.75 doesn't support some of the HTML tags as well as IE does and etc. It would hurt the contractors' reputation if they were to ignore 4.75 as of now. If anyone wants to work with IE 5.5 and Netscape 6.0+ exclusively then there are almost zero differences between those versions. It'll make your job much easier. I have a small site tracking system on my site and every one user in about 10 or 15 users are showing up with a 4.75 version. So I have no choice but to design sites for 3 different versions. Thus, I'd recommend you do the same thing. For the longest time, I've coded my sites to take into account Netscape users but with the ever-dwindling numbers of Navigator afficianados and IE's continued growth, I've been wondering if I should even bother worrying about whether my sites work with Netscape. Since this has been one of my best resources for info and some of the most talented and savvy people that
RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
Does anyone remember the CF_FIX_NETSCAPE tag that was in the developer's gallery a few years ago? Reported to fix all problems with Netscape, it would check to see what browser you were using and, if it was netscape, it could issue a CF_ABORT tag. I have written Allaire and now Macromedia many times asking for this to become a native feature of the product. Seriously, a Web site should be compliant with various browsers as dictated by their user community. I am responsible for eight sites in three government agencies right now; five of those sites are IE preferred (meaning we design exclusively for IE), because less than 1% of the hits each month come from browsers other than IE. On the other hand, at another unnamed govt agency, the standard Web browser is NS 3. 95% of users have it and use it daily. Mike -Original Message- From: Mike Alberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 7:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? I just had to get in on this one ... While there really isn't much debating that the browser war is over (which is as much Netscape's fault for releasing junk as it is Microsoft's for predatory practices), IMHO anyone that doesn't account for some 4.x version of Netscape when developing sites (intranets aside of course) is just being lazy and not doing their job. Those of us that have been developing for a fair amount of time have been fighting with this since day one. It's called site usability. We as developers I think tend to get tunnel vision. Just because we are technically adept we think that the average person is as well. The reality is that the average joe on the web just wants to read his email, find a good deal on Ebay, do a little research on products, and keep up with his/her favorite hobbies, and read the latest news. And he/she is doing it on a 56k modem. They don't care if they have the latest and greatest browser. What they have is working (as far as they know), and they don't want to wait for 4 hours to download the latest piece of bloatware. I for one am all for standards. It would be great if we didn't have this mess to deal with. But then there's reality. The reality is we have had to deal with this for years, and it isn't going away for awhile. While it is part of our job description to keep up with technology, the average person just doesn't want to deal with the headaches. There are millions of people still using older browsers at 800x600 (and even 640x480) resolution. If developers spent a little more time making their sites usable for the average person, instead of incorporating all this Flash and fancy imagery and DHTML and all this other stuff that people don't want to wait 5 minutes to download, the web would be a better place for everyone. Granted, these things have their place, and their time will come, but not until the average user is using something a little better than a simple dialup connection. And I don't see that happening anytime too soon. People just want to find their information, they don't want to wait all day for it to download, and they want it to be viewable with the browser they are using. not the one the developer tells them they need. The internet worked fine when it was a bunch of geeks writing basic HTML, and just because the world of print and multimedia designers on their Macintosh computers decided that we could do all this fancy design and Flash and all this other wiz bang stuff doesn't mean that it's necessarily the right thing to do. My .02, and sorry for ranting Mike Alberts Tue, 19 Feb 2002 22:42:59 -0500 From: Rey Bango [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? Message-ID: 019b01c1b9c0$b18928a0$[EMAIL PROTECTED] For the longest time, I've coded my sites to take into account Netscape users but with the ever-dwindling numbers of Navigator afficianados and IE's continued growth, I've been wondering if I should even bother worrying about whether my sites work with Netscape. Since this has been one of my best resources for info and some of the most talented and savvy people that I've met post to CF-Talk, I was hoping that I could get some good feedback. So, if we consider that the apps that I'm developing will be geared towards the Internet consumer at large and I won't have the luxury of developing for a controlled environment like a corporate intranet, I beg the question: Should I continue to worry about Netscape? If so, which version should serve as a baseline? Looking forward to your responses. C-ya, Rey... FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona
RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
People just want to find their information, they don't want to wait all day for it to download, and they want it to be viewable with the browser they are using. not the one the developer tells them they need. Most of the time it's not up to the developer anyways. We go by what the client wants on their site. If they say they want a flash intro, so be it. Anyways, I couldn't imagine a web without pictures and flash and dhtml, it would be like a magazine with nothing but text inside. __ steve oliver atnet solutions, inc. http://www.atnetsolutions.com -Original Message- From: Mike Alberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 7:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? I just had to get in on this one ... While there really isn't much debating that the browser war is over (which is as much Netscape's fault for releasing junk as it is Microsoft's for predatory practices), IMHO anyone that doesn't account for some 4.x version of Netscape when developing sites (intranets aside of course) is just being lazy and not doing their job. Those of us that have been developing for a fair amount of time have been fighting with this since day one. It's called site usability. We as developers I think tend to get tunnel vision. Just because we are technically adept we think that the average person is as well. The reality is that the average joe on the web just wants to read his email, find a good deal on Ebay, do a little research on products, and keep up with his/her favorite hobbies, and read the latest news. And he/she is doing it on a 56k modem. They don't care if they have the latest and greatest browser. What they have is working (as far as they know), and they don't want to wait for 4 hours to download the latest piece of bloatware. I for one am all for standards. It would be great if we didn't have this mess to deal with. But then there's reality. The reality is we have had to deal with this for years, and it isn't going away for awhile. While it is part of our job description to keep up with technology, the average person just doesn't want to deal with the headaches. There are millions of people still using older browsers at 800x600 (and even 640x480) resolution. If developers spent a little more time making their sites usable for the average person, instead of incorporating all this Flash and fancy imagery and DHTML and all this other stuff that people don't want to wait 5 minutes to download, the web would be a better place for everyone. Granted, these things have their place, and their time will come, but not until the average user is using something a little better than a simple dialup connection. And I don't see that happening anytime too soon. People just want to find their information, they don't want to wait all day for it to download, and they want it to be viewable with the browser they are using. not the one the developer tells them they need. The internet worked fine when it was a bunch of geeks writing basic HTML, and just because the world of print and multimedia designers on their Macintosh computers decided that we could do all this fancy design and Flash and all this other wiz bang stuff doesn't mean that it's necessarily the right thing to do. My .02, and sorry for ranting Mike Alberts Tue, 19 Feb 2002 22:42:59 -0500 From: Rey Bango [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? Message-ID: 019b01c1b9c0$b18928a0$[EMAIL PROTECTED] For the longest time, I've coded my sites to take into account Netscape users but with the ever-dwindling numbers of Navigator afficianados and IE's continued growth, I've been wondering if I should even bother worrying about whether my sites work with Netscape. Since this has been one of my best resources for info and some of the most talented and savvy people that I've met post to CF-Talk, I was hoping that I could get some good feedback. So, if we consider that the apps that I'm developing will be geared towards the Internet consumer at large and I won't have the luxury of developing for a controlled environment like a corporate intranet, I beg the question: Should I continue to worry about Netscape? If so, which version should serve as a baseline? Looking forward to your responses. C-ya, Rey... FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe:
RE: Request Scope.
Can any of you explain to me why the request scope is useful, if indeed, it is? It is one of the few scopes I am unfamiliar with. Can it be used to enhance my code? The Request scope is like the local Variables scope, with one major difference - any variables within it are available not only to your page, but to any custom tags called by your page (and any custom tags called by those tags, and so on). There's also one minor difference - you have to explicitly specify the Request scope to create variables within it. The primary use of this is to allow easier data sharing among all parts of a page generating a response to a single request. For example, Spectra uses quite a few custom tags, which themselves use custom tags, and so on. Rather than passing data up and down the chain of tags (into tags via attributes, out of tags via the Caller scope), the Spectra tags use the Request scope. As for whether it can be used to enhance your code, who knows? It's just another option when you're using custom tags. You may choose not to use it - personally, I think that custom tags should be decoupled as much as possible from the calling page, and generally shy away from using the Request scope to share data between these tags and their calling page, but others may certainly differ (and I might change my mind also, if I were building something like Spectra). I tend to use the Request scope for what I think of as constants - variables that I set with essentially static values in Application.cfm - but I could certainly use the local Variables scope just the same. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
Here are some stats from a very large site, that appeals to a the general population for this month so far. Took forever to genereate this report in LiveStats... The numbers should speak for themselves. These are Livestat session numbers, not hits or page views. Analysis for the Month of Feb, 2002. Total sessions served during period : 801025 Most active browsers by type and version: MSIE 5.x with 296141 sessions (37.11% of all sessions) Netscape 4.x with 290926 sessions (36.45% of all sessions) AOL 4.x with 98844 sessions (12.39% of all sessions) Netscape 3.x with 35885 sessions (4.50% of all sessions) AOL 5.x with 20564 sessions (2.58% of all sessions) Netscape 5.x with 16109 sessions (2.02% of all sessions) Unknown with 11594 sessions (1.45% of all sessions) MSProxy 2.x with 9699 sessions (1.22% of all sessions) Opera 3.x with 8388 sessions (1.05% of all sessions) MSIE 4.x with 7699 sessions (0.96% of all sessions) WebTV 2.x with 1321 sessions (0.17% of all sessions) Netscape 2.x with 326 sessions (0.04% of all sessions) WebTV 1.x with 242 sessions (0.03% of all sessions) AOL 3.x with 145 sessions (0.02% of all sessions) MSIE 3.x with 142 sessions (0.02% of all sessions) Lotus-Notes with 18 sessions (0.00% of all sessions) MSIE 2.x with 13 sessions (0.00% of all sessions) Netscape 1.x with 12 sessions (0.00% of all sessions) MSProxy 1.x with 8 sessions (0.00% of all sessions) Opera 4.x with 3 sessions (0.00% of all sessions) MSIE 1.x with 1 sessions (0.00% of all sessions) View Browsers by Agent Type Report Most browsers by brand preference: MSIE with 537034 sessions (67.21% of all sessions) AOL with 119672 sessions (14.98% of all sessions) Netscape with 46 sessions (13.91% of all sessions) Other with 11524 sessions (1.44% of all sessions) MSProxy with 9716 sessions (1.22% of all sessions) Opera with 8410 sessions (1.05% of all sessions) WebTV with 1563 sessions (0.20% of all sessions) Lotus-Notes with 18 sessions (0.00% of all sessions) Notice Netscape 6 (listed as 5) is more popular than WebTV, Opera, or IE4... jon - Original Message - From: Rey Bango [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 10:42 PM Subject: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? For the longest time, I've coded my sites to take into account Netscape users but with the ever-dwindling numbers of Navigator afficianados and IE's continued growth, I've been wondering if I should even bother worrying about whether my sites work with Netscape. Since this has been one of my best resources for info and some of the most talented and savvy people that I've met post to CF-Talk, I was hoping that I could get some good feedback. So, if we consider that the apps that I'm developing will be geared towards the Internet consumer at large and I won't have the luxury of developing for a controlled environment like a corporate intranet, I beg the question: Should I continue to worry about Netscape? If so, which version should serve as a baseline? Looking forward to your responses. C-ya, Rey... __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CFFTP
I have the following code but it FTP's the file from the server to another directory on the server. I want the file to be FTP'd to the client (my PC). into c:\fonts. Whats wrong with the below code? cfftp action=OPEN username=test password=test server=IP address passive=Yes stoponerror=No connection=FontFTP cfftp action=CHANGEDIR stoponerror=Yes directory=/cdrive/test/fontload/pfb connection=FontFTP cfftp action=PUTFILE connection=FontFTP stoponerror=Yes localfile=c:\fonts\test.pfb remotefile=/cdrive/test/fontload/pfb/bp01272_.pfb transfermode=AUTO cfftp action=CLOSE connection=FontFTP stoponerror=Yes __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Request Scope.
Thanks to everyone who replied to that request (no pun intended). I will look into it further based on the information you provided. Martin. -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 February 2002 15:06 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Request Scope. Can any of you explain to me why the request scope is useful, if indeed, it is? It is one of the few scopes I am unfamiliar with. Can it be used to enhance my code? The Request scope is like the local Variables scope, with one major difference - any variables within it are available not only to your page, but to any custom tags called by your page (and any custom tags called by those tags, and so on). There's also one minor difference - you have to explicitly specify the Request scope to create variables within it. The primary use of this is to allow easier data sharing among all parts of a page generating a response to a single request. For example, Spectra uses quite a few custom tags, which themselves use custom tags, and so on. Rather than passing data up and down the chain of tags (into tags via attributes, out of tags via the Caller scope), the Spectra tags use the Request scope. As for whether it can be used to enhance your code, who knows? It's just another option when you're using custom tags. You may choose not to use it - personally, I think that custom tags should be decoupled as much as possible from the calling page, and generally shy away from using the Request scope to share data between these tags and their calling page, but others may certainly differ (and I might change my mind also, if I were building something like Spectra). I tend to use the Request scope for what I think of as constants - variables that I set with essentially static values in Application.cfm - but I could certainly use the local Variables scope just the same. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
I would like to chime in on this topic...I have several sites that I have to maintain (I do government work) that I did not write. They were written using layers and HEAVY on javascript. When Netscape 6 was loaded on many of the new machines, the sites stopped working. I visited many javascript sites asking about Netscape 6 and they all told me that NS 6 is awfull. Based on what all of you are saying, you love it. I am part of a team that sets standards for web development (for my organization). We are looking at NS6 and what we should do about it. I value this lists opinion and would like to hear from you. Do any of you have problems using NS6 and javascript? Thanks, Brian Yager President - North AL Cold Fusion Users Group Sr. Systems Analyst NCCIM/CIC [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Output to a phrase
I have a database with a number of citations. Each record contains one citation. The citations can vary in word length from maybe 20 words to well over 100 words. In each citation is a word phrase named keywords: (note the colon). The phrase keywords: occurs at a different point within each citation (however only occurring once per citation). What I want to do is something similar to the following: cfoutput#Left(query.field, 20)# /cfoutput. However, instead of displaying just the first 20 characters in this example, I want to display all words up to just before the phrase keywords: - even though each citation will have a different quantity of words prior to the phrase keywords: Is there any way to do this? Thanks in advance for your help. -- Mark Leder, [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 2/20/2002 __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Output to a phrase
something like: left(query.field,findnocase(keywords:,query.field)-1) HTH, -- Howie Hamlin - inFusion Project Manager On-Line Data Solutions, Inc. - www.CoolFusion.com - 631-737-4668 x101 inFusion Mail Server (iMS) - The Intelligent Mail Server Find out how iMS Stacks up to the competition: http://www.coolfusion.com/imssecomparison.cfm - Original Message - From: Mark Leder [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 10:19 AM Subject: Output to a phrase I have a database with a number of citations. Each record contains one citation. The citations can vary in word length from maybe 20 words to well over 100 words. In each citation is a word phrase named keywords: (note the colon). The phrase keywords: occurs at a different point within each citation (however only occurring once per citation). What I want to do is something similar to the following: cfoutput#Left(query.field, 20)# /cfoutput. However, instead of displaying just the first 20 characters in this example, I want to display all words up to just before the phrase keywords: - even though each citation will have a different quantity of words prior to the phrase keywords: Is there any way to do this? Thanks in advance for your help. -- Mark Leder, [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 2/20/2002 __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
You are opening a can of worms here I believe, but Netscape has no problem with Javascript. Especially since Netscape invented Javascript, I imagine they can do whatever they want with it. It's web site authors that write code for proprietary DOM's (read: IE) that are the reason some sites do not work. I view Netscape 6 compatibility as forwards compatibility, as do many others. We are finally moving towards standards and Netscape 6.x is on the forefront of the standards movement. I'd also just like to mention that Netscape 6.0 or 6.2 are really not representative of what Netscape 6.x will be by April. Whatever the next version will be numbered, it's going to knock the socks off of a lot of people... jon - Original Message - From: Yager, Brian T Contractor/NCCIM [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 10:10 AM Subject: RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? I would like to chime in on this topic...I have several sites that I have to maintain (I do government work) that I did not write. They were written using layers and HEAVY on javascript. When Netscape 6 was loaded on many of the new machines, the sites stopped working. I visited many javascript sites asking about Netscape 6 and they all told me that NS 6 is awfull. Based on what all of you are saying, you love it. I am part of a team that sets standards for web development (for my organization). We are looking at NS6 and what we should do about it. I value this lists opinion and would like to hear from you. Do any of you have problems using NS6 and javascript? Thanks, __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
bit mask info
I'm looking for presentations/information/examples regarding bit masks. I've looked through the archives, and two presentations are mentioned, but neither seem available any longer. Can anyone point me in the right direction? thanks -- Kelly Tetterton Technical Lead, Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Developer duoDesign, eBusiness Architects Internet design, technology and online marketing 847-491-3000 main | [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-3100 fax| www.duoDesign.com 847-491-7125 direct| www.Nexiv.com __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Flash Graphing
I have created a simple flash graph tag which is in the developer exchange as CF_FlashGraphTag. You can see examples of this tag at www.studio896.com, the links on the site don't work for downloading. I took the look of a Corda bar graph and made it into a tag. My goal was to create new more advanced versions of the tag but just haven't had time. If you would like the source flash file I would be happy to open this open to the community. This way maybe we can get some decent looking flash graphs without the cost of a server solution. Justin Waldrip [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Haggerty, Michael A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 8:15 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Flash Graphing Yeah, it is actually pretty easy to make graphs in Flash. I have some good libraries I can show you, contact me off list for details. You may wish to consider the value of building this yourself over purchasing a commercial package (or upgrading to CF 5). I've found the cost of building, testing, debuging, and deploying a good Flash graphing solution (*especially if you want it to have drill down capability) generally exceeds the price of buying one of the good ones that are already out there. My personal fave is the one from Corda, which just beats CF_Graph in so many ways it is not funny. http://www.corda.com For the record, I am not employed by Corda, just a happy user. Mike -Original Message- From: Phillip Broussard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 4:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF Flash Graphing Does any one know of a way to make graphs with Flash? I can get the values into Flash but how do I make the graphs? They need to be something like what you get in Excel. Any ideas? Thanks Phillip Broussard Tracker Marine Group 417-873-5957 __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Output to a phrase
cfwset x = find(keywords:, query.field) cfoutput#Left(query.field, x)#/cfoutput. Mark Leder [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/20/02 10:19AM I have a database with a number of citations. Each record contains one citation. The citations can vary in word length from maybe 20 words to well over 100 words. In each citation is a word phrase named keywords: (note the colon). The phrase keywords: occurs at a different point within each citation (however only occurring once per citation). What I want to do is something similar to the following: cfoutput#Left(query.field, 20)# /cfoutput. However, instead of displaying just the first 20 characters in this example, I want to display all words up to just before the phrase keywords: - even though each citation will have a different quantity of words prior to the phrase keywords: Is there any way to do this? Thanks in advance for your help. -- Mark Leder, [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 2/20/2002 __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
This gets discussed every couple of months. Everyone will decide to do what they want to do. My little tidbit I mention every couple months is this. Aol bought Netscape for a reason. It's not becuase it had a cool name. They plan on doing something with it one day, and if the Microsoft AOL battle keeps up the way you do and us developers are not ready, the people who plan to be cross browser compatible will be the ones with the leg up. It can't hurt to fix your code now, and it will give you more experience. Some jobs say hey screw netscape users, others say we need to keep it up. No one will win until it's too late. If all of a sudden 30 million internet users who once used IE5 with thier packaged software started using Netscape 6, how would your site work? Robert Everland III Dixon Ticonderoga Web Developer Extraordinaire -Original Message- From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 10:27 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? You are opening a can of worms here I believe, but Netscape has no problem with Javascript. Especially since Netscape invented Javascript, I imagine they can do whatever they want with it. It's web site authors that write code for proprietary DOM's (read: IE) that are the reason some sites do not work. I view Netscape 6 compatibility as forwards compatibility, as do many others. We are finally moving towards standards and Netscape 6.x is on the forefront of the standards movement. I'd also just like to mention that Netscape 6.0 or 6.2 are really not representative of what Netscape 6.x will be by April. Whatever the next version will be numbered, it's going to knock the socks off of a lot of people... jon - Original Message - From: Yager, Brian T Contractor/NCCIM [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 10:10 AM Subject: RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? I would like to chime in on this topic...I have several sites that I have to maintain (I do government work) that I did not write. They were written using layers and HEAVY on javascript. When Netscape 6 was loaded on many of the new machines, the sites stopped working. I visited many javascript sites asking about Netscape 6 and they all told me that NS 6 is awfull. Based on what all of you are saying, you love it. I am part of a team that sets standards for web development (for my organization). We are looking at NS6 and what we should do about it. I value this lists opinion and would like to hear from you. Do any of you have problems using NS6 and javascript? Thanks, __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
CF Access - Select Distinct vs Memo Fields
Hi All, I have a bit of code that works from one server but not another. The SQL says Select Distinct description from SomeTable. The database is Microsoft Access on both servers (I mean one is a copy of the other, no import/export of data was performed). On one server, CF5 says that I can't use a memo field (description) with a unique select (distinct). Yet on the other server (also CF5), I don't get the error. Any Ideas? I'm thinking that it may have to do with the MDAC that is running, but also don't remember how to check that version. BTW, both are on NT boxes. David __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Forum Solutions
I'm looking for a forum solution that is ColdFusion and has similar functionality to ChatSpace's WebBoard. These features would include public and private conferences, public and private threads, and the ability to participate in a conference/thread via email. I would like to migrate to a ColdFusion application so that I can customize the functionality. Does anyone know where I can find such a system? Thanks, Nicholas W. Watson Software Engineer Concurrent Technologies Corporation Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (814) 269-2653 __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Output to a phrase
Something like: (untested) Replace(ListFirst(citation, :), keywords, ALL) Dave - Original Message - From: Mark Leder [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 10:19 AM Subject: Output to a phrase I have a database with a number of citations. Each record contains one citation. The citations can vary in word length from maybe 20 words to well over 100 words. In each citation is a word phrase named keywords: (note the colon). The phrase keywords: occurs at a different point within each citation (however only occurring once per citation). What I want to do is something similar to the following: cfoutput#Left(query.field, 20)# /cfoutput. However, instead of displaying just the first 20 characters in this example, I want to display all words up to just before the phrase keywords: - even though each citation will have a different quantity of words prior to the phrase keywords: Is there any way to do this? Thanks in advance for your help. -- Mark Leder, [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 2/20/2002 __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
Most of the time it's not up to the developer anyways. We go by what the client wants on their site. If they say they want a flash intro, so be it. Anyways, I couldn't imagine a web without pictures and flash and dhtml, it would be like a magazine with nothing but text inside. It sounds like heaven.. I surfed on a VMS Vax system using the lynx browser in my college years. It didn't support in-line images. It was wicked fast. I used to surf in Navigator 3 with images off. Then people started using things like graphical navigation ( with no alt tags ) and... well, it makes sites impossible to navigate. -- Jeffry Houser | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Need a Web Developer? Contact me! AIM: Reboog711 | Fax / Phone: 860-223-7946 -- My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Band: http://www.farcryfly.com __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: bit mask info
I'm looking for presentations/information/examples regarding bit
masks.
Not a presentation, but if you slap this into a template and run it, you'll
have a quick guide to all the bit functions and what they do. I print it
out and keep it by my computer in case I forget what one of the functions
does.
FONT SIZE=+2
!--- create the initial integers. Doing it this way helps you visualize
what your int looks like in binary form ---
CFSET x = InputBaseN('00110001', 2)
CFSET y = InputBaseN('00111000', 2)
CFSET y = 2
!--- position guide ---
10987654321098765432109876543210BR
CFOUTPUT
!--- Read the bit values back out one by one to display the int in
binary ---
CFLOOP INDEX=i FROM=31 TO=0 STEP=-1#BitMaskRead(x, i, 1)#/CFLOOP
= x = (#x#)BR
CFLOOP INDEX=i FROM=31 TO=0 STEP=-1#BitMaskRead(y, i, 1)#/CFLOOP
= y = (#y#)BR
BR
!--- Do different bit operations BitAnd(), BitOr, etc, and see what they do
to the values of the integers and bit positions. ---
CFLOOP INDEX=i FROM=31 TO=0 STEP=-1#BitMaskRead(BitAnd(x, y), i,
1)#/CFLOOP = BitAnd(x, y) = #BitAnd(x, y)#BR
CFLOOP INDEX=i FROM=31 TO=0 STEP=-1#BitMaskRead(BitOr(x, y), i,
1)#/CFLOOP = BitOr(x, y) = #BitOr(x, y)#BR
CFLOOP INDEX=i FROM=31 TO=0 STEP=-1#BitMaskRead(BitXOr(x, y), i,
1)#/CFLOOP = BitXOr(x, y) = #BitXOr(x, y)#BR
CFLOOP INDEX=i FROM=31 TO=0 STEP=-1#BitMaskRead(BitNot(x), i,
1)#/CFLOOP = BitNot(x) = #BitNot(x)#BR
CFLOOP INDEX=i FROM=31 TO=0 STEP=-1#BitMaskRead(BitNot(y), i,
1)#/CFLOOP = BitNot(y) = #BitNot(y)#BR
/CFOUTPUT
Cameron Childress
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-Original Message-
From: Kelly Tetterton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 10:27 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: bit mask info
I'm looking for presentations/information/examples regarding bit
masks. I've
looked through the archives, and two presentations are mentioned, but
neither seem available any longer. Can anyone point me in the right
direction? thanks --
Kelly Tetterton
Technical Lead, Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Developer
duoDesign, eBusiness Architects
Internet design, technology and online marketing
847-491-3000 main | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
847-491-3100 fax | www.duoDesign.com
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RE: bit mask info
Oh, remove the CFSET y = 2 on line 6, I had that in there when debugging
something...
-Cameron
Cameron Childress
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-Original Message-
From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 10:40 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: bit mask info
I'm looking for presentations/information/examples regarding bit
masks.
Not a presentation, but if you slap this into a template and run
it, you'll
have a quick guide to all the bit functions and what they do. I print it
out and keep it by my computer in case I forget what one of the functions
does.
FONT SIZE=+2
!--- create the initial integers. Doing it this way helps you visualize
what your int looks like in binary form ---
CFSET x = InputBaseN('00110001', 2)
CFSET y = InputBaseN('00111000', 2)
CFSET y = 2
!--- position guide ---
10987654321098765432109876543210BR
CFOUTPUT
!--- Read the bit values back out one by one to display the int in
binary ---
CFLOOP INDEX=i FROM=31 TO=0 STEP=-1#BitMaskRead(x, i,
1)#/CFLOOP
= x = (#x#)BR
CFLOOP INDEX=i FROM=31 TO=0 STEP=-1#BitMaskRead(y, i,
1)#/CFLOOP
= y = (#y#)BR
BR
!--- Do different bit operations BitAnd(), BitOr, etc, and see
what they do
to the values of the integers and bit positions. ---
CFLOOP INDEX=i FROM=31 TO=0 STEP=-1#BitMaskRead(BitAnd(x, y), i,
1)#/CFLOOP = BitAnd(x, y) = #BitAnd(x, y)#BR
CFLOOP INDEX=i FROM=31 TO=0 STEP=-1#BitMaskRead(BitOr(x, y), i,
1)#/CFLOOP = BitOr(x, y) = #BitOr(x, y)#BR
CFLOOP INDEX=i FROM=31 TO=0 STEP=-1#BitMaskRead(BitXOr(x, y), i,
1)#/CFLOOP = BitXOr(x, y) = #BitXOr(x, y)#BR
CFLOOP INDEX=i FROM=31 TO=0 STEP=-1#BitMaskRead(BitNot(x), i,
1)#/CFLOOP = BitNot(x) = #BitNot(x)#BR
CFLOOP INDEX=i FROM=31 TO=0 STEP=-1#BitMaskRead(BitNot(y), i,
1)#/CFLOOP = BitNot(y) = #BitNot(y)#BR
/CFOUTPUT
Cameron Childress
elliptIQ Inc.
p.770.460.1035.232
f.770.460.0963
--
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-Original Message-
From: Kelly Tetterton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 10:27 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: bit mask info
I'm looking for presentations/information/examples regarding bit
masks. I've
looked through the archives, and two presentations are mentioned, but
neither seem available any longer. Can anyone point me in the right
direction? thanks --
Kelly Tetterton
Technical Lead, Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Developer
duoDesign, eBusiness Architects
Internet design, technology and online marketing
847-491-3000 main | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
847-491-3100 fax| www.duoDesign.com
847-491-7125 direct| www.Nexiv.com
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Re: Forum Solutions
At 10:33 AM 2/20/2002 -0500, Watson, Nicholas wrote: I'm looking for a forum solution that is ColdFusion and has similar functionality to ChatSpace's WebBoard. These features would include public and private conferences, public and private threads, and the ability to participate in a conference/thread via email. I would like to migrate to a ColdFusion application so that I can customize the functionality. Does anyone know where I can find such a system? We have been happy with e-Zone Media's FuseTalk product. See: http://www.e-zonemedia.com/fusetalk It's a good app, SYS-CON Media and Macromedia use it. It was actually selected to replace Allaire Forums and powers the MM Support Forums for CF. Disclaimer -- I do not work for e-Zone Media, but am a happy customer. Cheers, ..David --- Kill a spammer for Jesus! (...slowly, with a nail-gun.) __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
CFGRID - Broswer problem - CFAS problem?
Hi everybody - With all of this browser talk, I am having a problem with my boss's computer right now. I have a CFGRID setup that he uses to input data. It refuses to come up on his machine using IE6, Opera, or anything else. It comes up fine on my machine. The kicker: I changed servers the other day. The old server's CFGRID page works just fine on his machine in all browsers. The grid comes up great and works. IN opera, the message that I got was :Applet not loaded. In IE it's a blank area. Any ideas??? Thank you, Matthew Small __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFGRID - Broswer problem - CFAS problem?
Re-install the java plugin on his machine. http://java.sun.com/getjava/download.html Should fix it. -Original Message- From: Matthew R. Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 February 2002 15:57 To: CF-Talk Subject: CFGRID - Broswer problem - CFAS problem? Hi everybody - With all of this browser talk, I am having a problem with my boss's computer right now. I have a CFGRID setup that he uses to input data. It refuses to come up on his machine using IE6, Opera, or anything else. It comes up fine on my machine. The kicker: I changed servers the other day. The old server's CFGRID page works just fine on his machine in all browsers. The grid comes up great and works. IN opera, the message that I got was :Applet not loaded. In IE it's a blank area. Any ideas??? Thank you, Matthew Small __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
CF Server / IIS / SQL Server
Hello, Ok, let me start by saying this is going to be a long email (my apologies)... I am at my wits end here with the admins on campus who can't seem to figure anything out. In terms of accounts and services, what is the best way to setup IIS, SQL 2K, and CF 5.0. I am a novice when it comes to installing this stuff, however I am trying to assist the admins here on campus. Basically, the admins on campus are in a group on the NT domain called admins or something to that nature. One server has IIS and CF on it, and the other server has SQL 2K only. The admins install stuff using their domain admin acocunts... is this a good idea.. shouldn't all software be installed using a local system account? Another issue they (now trickleing down to web guys) have is ODBC connections and setting them up. What is the best account to use for this and what kind of permissions does that account need? We have tried setting up ODBCs using all kinds of logins and passwords, but instead of guessing I want to know why and how this all works. Once IIS and CF are installed using the right acocunts (which I don't believe they are now) and once SQL server is up and running un der the right account what is the best practice for database permissions in terms CF and SQL: specifying a new user and pass for each database that people will be using in CF Apps? Man I am just at a loss here trying to figure this stuff out.. Any links, books, online trainings.. anything would be much appreciated. In addition, if anyone can respond to get me started in learning this stuff so I can try and get this all straightened out would be great. Thanks, Mike Tangorre A.K.A. Senior AU Student Webteam Slave / mr fixit ... blah blah blah. Gr :-) __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFGRID - Broswer problem - CFAS problem?
Thanks for that link, but it still did not work. I think that the CFAS server is not sending the applet somehow... I'm not sure of how this works, but the message that I get in the java window is: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: allaire.controls.cfGridFormApplet I'm using win2Kserver and CF4.5.1 service pack 2 -Thank you Matt Small -Original Message- From: Craig Dudley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 10:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFGRID - Broswer problem - CFAS problem? Re-install the java plugin on his machine. http://java.sun.com/getjava/download.html Should fix it. -Original Message- From: Matthew R. Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 February 2002 15:57 To: CF-Talk Subject: CFGRID - Broswer problem - CFAS problem? Hi everybody - With all of this browser talk, I am having a problem with my boss's computer right now. I have a CFGRID setup that he uses to input data. It refuses to come up on his machine using IE6, Opera, or anything else. It comes up fine on my machine. The kicker: I changed servers the other day. The old server's CFGRID page works just fine on his machine in all browsers. The grid comes up great and works. IN opera, the message that I got was :Applet not loaded. In IE it's a blank area. Any ideas??? Thank you, Matthew Small __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: bit mask info
Check out Hal Helms site: http://halhelms.com/writings/ProposedSecurityModel.pdf http://www.halhelms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=newsletters.jul2000 Both of these cover using the bitmask functions in a security context... jim On Wednesday, February 20, 2002, 10:26:33 AM, Kelly wrote: KT I'm looking for presentations/information/examples regarding bit masks. I've KT looked through the archives, and two presentations are mentioned, but KT neither seem available any longer. Can anyone point me in the right KT direction? thanks -- __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFGRID - Broswer problem - CFAS problem?
OK, I've solved the problem... CFIDE needs to be in the same directory as your webserver root - which I didn't have. The answer was in the knowledgebase - article 11904 http://www.macromedia.com/v1/Handlers/index.cfm?ID=11904Method=Full Thanks for your help. - Matt Small -Original Message- From: Matthew R. Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 11:10 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFGRID - Broswer problem - CFAS problem? Thanks for that link, but it still did not work. I think that the CFAS server is not sending the applet somehow... I'm not sure of how this works, but the message that I get in the java window is: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: allaire.controls.cfGridFormApplet I'm using win2Kserver and CF4.5.1 service pack 2 -Thank you Matt Small -Original Message- From: Craig Dudley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 10:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFGRID - Broswer problem - CFAS problem? Re-install the java plugin on his machine. http://java.sun.com/getjava/download.html Should fix it. -Original Message- From: Matthew R. Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 February 2002 15:57 To: CF-Talk Subject: CFGRID - Broswer problem - CFAS problem? Hi everybody - With all of this browser talk, I am having a problem with my boss's computer right now. I have a CFGRID setup that he uses to input data. It refuses to come up on his machine using IE6, Opera, or anything else. It comes up fine on my machine. The kicker: I changed servers the other day. The old server's CFGRID page works just fine on his machine in all browsers. The grid comes up great and works. IN opera, the message that I got was :Applet not loaded. In IE it's a blank area. Any ideas??? Thank you, Matthew Small __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFGRID - Broswer problem - CFAS problem?
Try copying the dir structure where the applets are stored in cf server over to your site, something like /cfide/.. And copy the .jar files into that dir, that's a bit of a drity hack but it's worked for me once or twice. Craig. -Original Message- From: Matthew R. Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 February 2002 16:10 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFGRID - Broswer problem - CFAS problem? Thanks for that link, but it still did not work. I think that the CFAS server is not sending the applet somehow... I'm not sure of how this works, but the message that I get in the java window is: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: allaire.controls.cfGridFormApplet I'm using win2Kserver and CF4.5.1 service pack 2 -Thank you Matt Small -Original Message- From: Craig Dudley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 10:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFGRID - Broswer problem - CFAS problem? Re-install the java plugin on his machine. http://java.sun.com/getjava/download.html Should fix it. -Original Message- From: Matthew R. Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 February 2002 15:57 To: CF-Talk Subject: CFGRID - Broswer problem - CFAS problem? Hi everybody - With all of this browser talk, I am having a problem with my boss's computer right now. I have a CFGRID setup that he uses to input data. It refuses to come up on his machine using IE6, Opera, or anything else. It comes up fine on my machine. The kicker: I changed servers the other day. The old server's CFGRID page works just fine on his machine in all browsers. The grid comes up great and works. IN opera, the message that I got was :Applet not loaded. In IE it's a blank area. Any ideas??? Thank you, Matthew Small __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Server / IIS / SQL Server
A lot depends on what you are trying to do. How restrictive are your security policies, how tightly do you want to lock down the server etc. If you want a simple approach, create a domain account with very specific permissions on the web server (make sure an deny anything you don't want exposed), and very specific permissions on the database server - then use it as the service account for CF and IIS - and use trusted connections for your ODBC connections. That IS the convienience of it - one account controlling all access. But be very sure that you know what you intend and do NOT intend to expose as resources for that user. And don't give it admin rights or sa rights. If it needs dbo permissions, give it dbo rights on the individual databases rather than blanket SA rights. As far as installing to the local system account - that's ok IF you realize that CF will have access to any local resource (and you can't deny the local system account)... so as long as that is what you intend - fine. You would then need to implement standard SQL security - adding complexity - but not too much. Mark -Original Message- From: Tangorre, Michael T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 7:48 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF Server / IIS / SQL Server Hello, Ok, let me start by saying this is going to be a long email (my apologies)... I am at my wits end here with the admins on campus who can't seem to figure anything out. In terms of accounts and services, what is the best way to setup IIS, SQL 2K, and CF 5.0. I am a novice when it comes to installing this stuff, however I am trying to assist the admins here on campus. Basically, the admins on campus are in a group on the NT domain called admins or something to that nature. One server has IIS and CF on it, and the other server has SQL 2K only. The admins install stuff using their domain admin acocunts... is this a good idea.. shouldn't all software be installed using a local system account? Another issue they (now trickleing down to web guys) have is ODBC connections and setting them up. What is the best account to use for this and what kind of permissions does that account need? We have tried setting up ODBCs using all kinds of logins and passwords, but instead of guessing I want to know why and how this all works. Once IIS and CF are installed using the right acocunts (which I don't believe they are now) and once SQL server is up and running un der the right account what is the best practice for database permissions in terms CF and SQL: specifying a new user and pass for each database that people will be using in CF Apps? Man I am just at a loss here trying to figure this stuff out.. Any links, books, online trainings.. anything would be much appreciated. In addition, if anyone can respond to get me started in learning this stuff so I can try and get this all straightened out would be great. Thanks, Mike Tangorre A.K.A. Senior AU Student Webteam Slave / mr fixit ... blah blah blah. Gr :-) __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Server / IIS / SQL Server
When you say create an account on the domain, do you mean the server domain, or our entire network domain? -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 1:24 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Server / IIS / SQL Server A lot depends on what you are trying to do. How restrictive are your security policies, how tightly do you want to lock down the server etc. If you want a simple approach, create a domain account with very specific permissions on the web server (make sure an deny anything you don't want exposed), and very specific permissions on the database server - then use it as the service account for CF and IIS - and use trusted connections for your ODBC connections. That IS the convienience of it - one account controlling all access. But be very sure that you know what you intend and do NOT intend to expose as resources for that user. And don't give it admin rights or sa rights. If it needs dbo permissions, give it dbo rights on the individual databases rather than blanket SA rights. As far as installing to the local system account - that's ok IF you realize that CF will have access to any local resource (and you can't deny the local system account)... so as long as that is what you intend - fine. You would then need to implement standard SQL security - adding complexity - but not too much. Mark -Original Message- From: Tangorre, Michael T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 7:48 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF Server / IIS / SQL Server Hello, Ok, let me start by saying this is going to be a long email (my apologies)... I am at my wits end here with the admins on campus who can't seem to figure anything out. In terms of accounts and services, what is the best way to setup IIS, SQL 2K, and CF 5.0. I am a novice when it comes to installing this stuff, however I am trying to assist the admins here on campus. Basically, the admins on campus are in a group on the NT domain called admins or something to that nature. One server has IIS and CF on it, and the other server has SQL 2K only. The admins install stuff using their domain admin acocunts... is this a good idea.. shouldn't all software be installed using a local system account? Another issue they (now trickleing down to web guys) have is ODBC connections and setting them up. What is the best account to use for this and what kind of permissions does that account need? We have tried setting up ODBCs using all kinds of logins and passwords, but instead of guessing I want to know why and how this all works. Once IIS and CF are installed using the right acocunts (which I don't believe they are now) and once SQL server is up and running un der the right account what is the best practice for database permissions in terms CF and SQL: specifying a new user and pass for each database that people will be using in CF Apps? Man I am just at a loss here trying to figure this stuff out.. Any links, books, online trainings.. anything would be much appreciated. In addition, if anyone can respond to get me started in learning this stuff so I can try and get this all straightened out would be great. Thanks, Mike Tangorre A.K.A. Senior AU Student Webteam Slave / mr fixit ... blah blah blah. Gr :-) __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
R: Strip from string
Hi, I have the following text which I'm passed as a URL.filename d:\dir1\dir2\dir3\test.txt How can I strip the test.txt from the above line? __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Server / IIS / SQL Server
There is no such thing as the server domain - even though the login screen leads you to believe there is - there is only a domain and a local account (not the same as the local system account). If you use a local account, you will need to share permissions from one stand alone server to another - which is adding rather than removing complexity. The idea behind a domain acount is to simplify the process. Create an account and carefully assign the resources you want it to have - then use it where you need to. If you end up with too many users, you can create groups instead - also useful. But it appears a single user would suffice for what you have in mind. Mark P.S. - I suggest the book Mastering Windows 2000 Server - Mark Minasi - it's readable and may help you sort this out. -Original Message- From: Tangorre, Michael T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 8:21 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Server / IIS / SQL Server When you say create an account on the domain, do you mean the server domain, or our entire network domain? -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 1:24 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Server / IIS / SQL Server A lot depends on what you are trying to do. How restrictive are your security policies, how tightly do you want to lock down the server etc. If you want a simple approach, create a domain account with very specific permissions on the web server (make sure an deny anything you don't want exposed), and very specific permissions on the database server - then use it as the service account for CF and IIS - and use trusted connections for your ODBC connections. That IS the convienience of it - one account controlling all access. But be very sure that you know what you intend and do NOT intend to expose as resources for that user. And don't give it admin rights or sa rights. If it needs dbo permissions, give it dbo rights on the individual databases rather than blanket SA rights. As far as installing to the local system account - that's ok IF you realize that CF will have access to any local resource (and you can't deny the local system account)... so as long as that is what you intend - fine. You would then need to implement standard SQL security - adding complexity - but not too much. Mark -Original Message- From: Tangorre, Michael T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 7:48 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF Server / IIS / SQL Server Hello, Ok, let me start by saying this is going to be a long email (my apologies)... I am at my wits end here with the admins on campus who can't seem to figure anything out. In terms of accounts and services, what is the best way to setup IIS, SQL 2K, and CF 5.0. I am a novice when it comes to installing this stuff, however I am trying to assist the admins here on campus. Basically, the admins on campus are in a group on the NT domain called admins or something to that nature. One server has IIS and CF on it, and the other server has SQL 2K only. The admins install stuff using their domain admin acocunts... is this a good idea.. shouldn't all software be installed using a local system account? Another issue they (now trickleing down to web guys) have is ODBC connections and setting them up. What is the best account to use for this and what kind of permissions does that account need? We have tried setting up ODBCs using all kinds of logins and passwords, but instead of guessing I want to know why and how this all works. Once IIS and CF are installed using the right acocunts (which I don't believe they are now) and once SQL server is up and running un der the right account what is the best practice for database permissions in terms CF and SQL: specifying a new user and pass for each database that people will be using in CF Apps? Man I am just at a loss here trying to figure this stuff out.. Any links, books, online trainings.. anything would be much appreciated. In addition, if anyone can respond to get me started in learning this stuff so I can try and get this all straightened out would be great. Thanks, Mike Tangorre A.K.A. Senior AU Student Webteam Slave / mr fixit ... blah blah blah. Gr :-) __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF-Talk-list V1 #141
No no, thanks for the clarification. I didn't set up the sequences when I was working with Oracle. I'm always happy to know more. Good Fortune, Rick Walters Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services Office: (800) 604-5227 Cell: (407) 491-9848 -Original Message- From: Kreig Zimmerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 11:26 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF-Talk-list V1 #141 -- Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 10:47:47 -0500 From: Rick Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] Oracle has a nifty little table called DUAL. It's a system table that will always have only one row. So, if you Select nextval from Dual you will have a unique id you can then store in a variable and use for inserts. If you use this for all your tables, then your ID values will be different in all of your tables, an interesting thing to play with in joins or table merges. No record will ever have the same ID. Beware, I have heard of resetting the Dual Table. Never had it happen to me. This is completely off-base. Instead of using the Identity feature which SQL Server has (which is a counter attached to a particular column on a table in the DB), Oracle has separate objects called Sequences. These are basically counter objects with extreme flexibility. Someone (usually a DBA, but it's trivial to do so) must set up a sequence for you to use before you can actually do something like: SELECT thisSq.NEXTVAL FROM SYS.DUAL. These sequences do not magically appear. Having the new row-ids selected explicitly from a separate table avoids the potential ID contention issue which SQL Server has due to the fact the IDs are implicit, and a long data insert sometimes causes SQL Server to give two requests the same ID. (One way to avoid that is insert a NULL row first, get the ID, and then do an update on that row). There is nothing special about the so-called DUAL table. It's simply a dummy table. You could just as easily select the next value in a sequence from any table (or the sysdate for that matter, as in SELECT sysdate FROM SYS.DUAL). Doing it from DUAL makes more sense since it is ever-present (and locks you into using Oracle, hahaha :). No offense Rick. I just wanted to ensure people knew what exactly the deal was with Sequences in Oracle. Cheers, Kreig FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Strip from string
getdirectoryfrompath(d:\dir1\dir2\dir3\test.txt) -Original Message- From: phumes1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: woensdag 20 februari 2002 17:51 To: CF-Talk Subject: R: Strip from string Hi, I have the following text which I'm passed as a URL.filename d:\dir1\dir2\dir3\test.txt How can I strip the test.txt from the above line? __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Refresh Window
Is there a way to Automatically refresh a window? I have a page that has a pop-up window. When you make changes on that fo rm (in the pop-up windown) when i click submit...i want the window undern eath to reflect the changes. the only way it does right now is if i hit the refresh button. is there a way to do this without hitting the refres h button? thanks for your help. bec. * This e-mail, including any attachments, is intended for the receipt and use by the intended addressee(s), and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Refresh Window
I use this alot: opener.location = opener.location; -- Original Message -- from: Jones, Becky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 11:58:24 -0500 Is there a way to Automatically refresh a window? I have a page that has a pop-up window. When you make changes on that fo rm (in the pop-up windown) when i click submit...i want the window undern eath to reflect the changes. the only way it does right now is if i hit the refresh button. is there a way to do this without hitting the refres h button? thanks for your help. bec. * This e-mail, including any attachments, is intended for the receipt and use by the intended addressee(s), and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Refresh Window
Try this:
script
!-- Hide script from old browsers
function closewindow(newUrl)
{ window.opener.document.location = newUrl
window.close();
}
// End hiding script from old browsers--
/script
a href=someurl.htm target=content
onClick=javascript:closewindow('someurl.htm')Image/A
- Original Message -
From: Jones, Becky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 9:58 AM
Subject: Refresh Window
Is there a way to Automatically refresh a window?
I have a page that has a pop-up window. When you make changes on that fo
rm (in the pop-up windown) when i click submit...i want the window undern
eath to reflect the changes. the only way it does right now is if i hit
the refresh button. is there a way to do this without hitting the refres
h button?
thanks for your help.
bec.
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Re: Refresh Window
oi Becky!! window.opener.location.reload(true) -- Critz Certified Adv. ColdFusion Developer Crit[s2k] - CF_ChannelOP Network=Efnet Channel=ColdFusion - Wednesday, February 20, 2002, 11:58:24 AM, you wrote: JB Is there a way to Automatically refresh a window? JB I have a page that has a pop-up window. When you make changes on that fo JB rm (in the pop-up windown) when i click submit...i want the window undern JB eath to reflect the changes. the only way it does right now is if i hit JB the refresh button. is there a way to do this without hitting the refres JB h button? JB thanks for your help. JB bec. JB * JB This e-mail, including any attachments, is intended for the JB receipt and use by the intended addressee(s), and may contain JB confidential and privileged information. If you are not an intended JB recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized JB __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
CF Studio settings in win2k
my friend had to delete his win2k user profile from his system and now his font and other customization settings (like tag completion) have reset to normal. does anyone know how these settings are stored? i'm guessing they're in the registry. just wanted to check if anyone here knew. thx. -brendan avery 2.0 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] 310.779.2211 - santa monica, california __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Server / IIS / SQL Server
Thanks Mark. I am looking into getting some books to help me btter understand this administration stuff. Should make for some good reading over spring break. Do you recommend any other books? Thanks, Mike -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 1:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Server / IIS / SQL Server There is no such thing as the server domain - even though the login screen leads you to believe there is - there is only a domain and a local account (not the same as the local system account). If you use a local account, you will need to share permissions from one stand alone server to another - which is adding rather than removing complexity. The idea behind a domain acount is to simplify the process. Create an account and carefully assign the resources you want it to have - then use it where you need to. If you end up with too many users, you can create groups instead - also useful. But it appears a single user would suffice for what you have in mind. Mark P.S. - I suggest the book Mastering Windows 2000 Server - Mark Minasi - it's readable and may help you sort this out. -Original Message- From: Tangorre, Michael T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 8:21 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Server / IIS / SQL Server When you say create an account on the domain, do you mean the server domain, or our entire network domain? -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 1:24 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Server / IIS / SQL Server A lot depends on what you are trying to do. How restrictive are your security policies, how tightly do you want to lock down the server etc. If you want a simple approach, create a domain account with very specific permissions on the web server (make sure an deny anything you don't want exposed), and very specific permissions on the database server - then use it as the service account for CF and IIS - and use trusted connections for your ODBC connections. That IS the convienience of it - one account controlling all access. But be very sure that you know what you intend and do NOT intend to expose as resources for that user. And don't give it admin rights or sa rights. If it needs dbo permissions, give it dbo rights on the individual databases rather than blanket SA rights. As far as installing to the local system account - that's ok IF you realize that CF will have access to any local resource (and you can't deny the local system account)... so as long as that is what you intend - fine. You would then need to implement standard SQL security - adding complexity - but not too much. Mark -Original Message- From: Tangorre, Michael T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 7:48 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF Server / IIS / SQL Server Hello, Ok, let me start by saying this is going to be a long email (my apologies)... I am at my wits end here with the admins on campus who can't seem to figure anything out. In terms of accounts and services, what is the best way to setup IIS, SQL 2K, and CF 5.0. I am a novice when it comes to installing this stuff, however I am trying to assist the admins here on campus. Basically, the admins on campus are in a group on the NT domain called admins or something to that nature. One server has IIS and CF on it, and the other server has SQL 2K only. The admins install stuff using their domain admin acocunts... is this a good idea.. shouldn't all software be installed using a local system account? Another issue they (now trickleing down to web guys) have is ODBC connections and setting them up. What is the best account to use for this and what kind of permissions does that account need? We have tried setting up ODBCs using all kinds of logins and passwords, but instead of guessing I want to know why and how this all works. Once IIS and CF are installed using the right acocunts (which I don't believe they are now) and once SQL server is up and running un der the right account what is the best practice for database permissions in terms CF and SQL: specifying a new user and pass for each database that people will be using in CF Apps? Man I am just at a loss here trying to figure this stuff out.. Any links, books, online trainings.. anything would be much appreciated. In addition, if anyone can respond to get me started in learning this stuff so I can try and get this all straightened out would be great. Thanks, Mike Tangorre A.K.A. Senior AU Student Webteam Slave / mr fixit ... blah blah blah. Gr :-) __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ:
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RE: Strip from string
You could use... URL.filename = ListDeleteAt(URL.filename, ListLen(URL.filename, \), \) HTH -Original Message- From: phumes1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 February 2002 16:51 To: CF-Talk Subject: R: Strip from string Hi, I have the following text which I'm passed as a URL.filename d:\dir1\dir2\dir3\test.txt How can I strip the test.txt from the above line? __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Server / IIS / SQL Server
Mike Well - there are a host of books out there on Win2k or NT administration. Most of them are pretty good. Unless you want to be an expert on the topic (an MCSE for example) you really just need a reference - minasi's book is a great comprehensive text and he knows a lot about the Nuances MS products - so he may be all you need. And at 1500 pages I'm guessing it will be quite enough to get through in one spring break - in between bears and broa... uh women ha. -mk Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG www.cfwebtools.com ..no more brochures! -Original Message- From: Tangorre, Michael T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 9:01 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Server / IIS / SQL Server Thanks Mark. I am looking into getting some books to help me btter understand this administration stuff. Should make for some good reading over spring break. Do you recommend any other books? Thanks, Mike -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 1:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Server / IIS / SQL Server There is no such thing as the server domain - even though the login screen leads you to believe there is - there is only a domain and a local account (not the same as the local system account). If you use a local account, you will need to share permissions from one stand alone server to another - which is adding rather than removing complexity. The idea behind a domain acount is to simplify the process. Create an account and carefully assign the resources you want it to have - then use it where you need to. If you end up with too many users, you can create groups instead - also useful. But it appears a single user would suffice for what you have in mind. Mark P.S. - I suggest the book Mastering Windows 2000 Server - Mark Minasi - it's readable and may help you sort this out. -Original Message- From: Tangorre, Michael T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 8:21 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Server / IIS / SQL Server When you say create an account on the domain, do you mean the server domain, or our entire network domain? -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 1:24 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Server / IIS / SQL Server A lot depends on what you are trying to do. How restrictive are your security policies, how tightly do you want to lock down the server etc. If you want a simple approach, create a domain account with very specific permissions on the web server (make sure an deny anything you don't want exposed), and very specific permissions on the database server - then use it as the service account for CF and IIS - and use trusted connections for your ODBC connections. That IS the convienience of it - one account controlling all access. But be very sure that you know what you intend and do NOT intend to expose as resources for that user. And don't give it admin rights or sa rights. If it needs dbo permissions, give it dbo rights on the individual databases rather than blanket SA rights. As far as installing to the local system account - that's ok IF you realize that CF will have access to any local resource (and you can't deny the local system account)... so as long as that is what you intend - fine. You would then need to implement standard SQL security - adding complexity - but not too much. Mark -Original Message- From: Tangorre, Michael T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 7:48 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF Server / IIS / SQL Server Hello, Ok, let me start by saying this is going to be a long email (my apologies)... I am at my wits end here with the admins on campus who can't seem to figure anything out. In terms of accounts and services, what is the best way to setup IIS, SQL 2K, and CF 5.0. I am a novice when it comes to installing this stuff, however I am trying to assist the admins here on campus. Basically, the admins on campus are in a group on the NT domain called admins or something to that nature. One server has IIS and CF on it, and the other server has SQL 2K only. The admins install stuff using their domain admin acocunts... is this a good idea.. shouldn't all software be installed using a local system account? Another issue they (now trickleing down to web guys) have is ODBC connections and setting them up. What is the best account to use for this and what kind of permissions does that account need? We have tried setting up ODBCs using all kinds of logins and passwords, but instead of guessing I want to know why and how this all works. Once IIS and CF are installed using the right acocunts (which I don't believe they are now) and once SQL server is up and running un der the right account what is the best practice for database permissions in terms CF and SQL: specifying a new user and pass for each database that people
RE: CF Studio settings in win2k
my friend had to delete his win2k user profile from his system and now his font and other customization settings (like tag completion) have reset to normal. does anyone know how these settings are stored? i'm guessing they're in the registry. You are correct, sir. They're stored in the HKEY_USERS hive, on a per-user basis. You can use the HKEY_CURRENT_USER shortcut if you're logged in as the appropriate user. For CF Studio 4.x, they're under HKCU\Software\Allaire. For CF Studio 5, they're under HKCU\Software\Macromedia\. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
FTP vs HTTP
Hi Everyone, I'm searching for opinions and perhaps metrics that might suggest when it is better to channel downloads using FTP vs HTTP from a single web server environment. Essentially, we have a large file (35M) that a significant number of people must download monthly. The question is: What advantage could we gain by using an FTP link vs a HTTP link? Opening an anonymous FTP channel is potentially more risky from a security standpoint. But, we are wondering if channeling this traffic on another port would possibly free up port 40 and result in a performance gain for the steady flow of *.cfm requests. Anyone out there with an opinion please chime in. Or, if you know where I could find more information on this topic, send me a note. Thanks. Good Fortune, Rick Walters Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services Office: (800) 604-5227 Cell: (407) 491-9848 __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Query Execution Time: CF vs. SQL Plus
I am working in a CF 4.5 SP2 on Solaris environment. I have a query which I run via TOAD and SQL Plus which comes back in 700 ms at most. But when I run it through a CF template, it takes over 50 seconds on average. I have tried connecting to my database via both ODBC and the Merant Oracle driver, and nothing has improved. I ran a detailed Explain Plan analysis on the query and tuned the proper indexes with my DBA. But that hasn't helped either. I also use cfqueryparam religiously, and while it works wonders on my other queries, this one is still agonizingly slow. Can anybody point me in a direction to try and track this down? Thanks, Dave. _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Query Execution Time: CF vs. SQL Plus
Do you have a large recordset coming back? If so, try playing around with the blockfactor attribute. Also, try moving the query to a stored pr oc, and see if that makes a difference. -Original Message- From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 10:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Query Execution Time: CF vs. SQL Plus I am working in a CF 4.5 SP2 on Solaris environment. I have a query which I run via TOAD and SQL Plus which comes back in 700 ms at most. But when I run it through a CF template, it takes over 50 se conds on average. I have tried connecting to my database via both ODBC and the Merant Oracle driver, and nothing has improved. I ran a detailed Expl ain Plan analysis on the query and tuned the proper indexes with my DBA. But that hasn't helped either. I also use cfqueryparam religiously, and while it works wonders on my other queries, this one is still agonizingly s low. Can anybody point me in a direction to try and track this down? Thanks, Dave. _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com _ _ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: FTP vs HTTP
For a file like that I would definitely use FTP - that is what FTP is for. Most modern ftp servers and clients support resume for one thing (only http/1.1 supports resume and I'm not sure how many web clients support it). And, although there may or may not be a risk using anonymous access to the ftp server it is no more or less of a security risk when providing anonymous http access IMHO. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Rick Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:37 PM Subject: FTP vs HTTP Hi Everyone, I'm searching for opinions and perhaps metrics that might suggest when it is better to channel downloads using FTP vs HTTP from a single web server environment. Essentially, we have a large file (35M) that a significant number of people must download monthly. The question is: What advantage could we gain by using an FTP link vs a HTTP link? Opening an anonymous FTP channel is potentially more risky from a security standpoint. But, we are wondering if channeling this traffic on another port would possibly free up port 40 and result in a performance gain for the steady flow of *.cfm requests. Anyone out there with an opinion please chime in. Or, if you know where I could find more information on this topic, send me a note. Thanks. Good Fortune, Rick Walters Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services Office: (800) 604-5227 Cell: (407) 491-9848 __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: FTP vs HTTP
Ditto to howie - http servers and processes are also usually configured to timeout long running request in order to enhance server performance and overall user experience. FTP is a better choice. Mark -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 9:55 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: FTP vs HTTP For a file like that I would definitely use FTP - that is what FTP is for. Most modern ftp servers and clients support resume for one thing (only http/1.1 supports resume and I'm not sure how many web clients support it). And, although there may or may not be a risk using anonymous access to the ftp server it is no more or less of a security risk when providing anonymous http access IMHO. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Rick Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:37 PM Subject: FTP vs HTTP Hi Everyone, I'm searching for opinions and perhaps metrics that might suggest when it is better to channel downloads using FTP vs HTTP from a single web server environment. Essentially, we have a large file (35M) that a significant number of people must download monthly. The question is: What advantage could we gain by using an FTP link vs a HTTP link? Opening an anonymous FTP channel is potentially more risky from a security standpoint. But, we are wondering if channeling this traffic on another port would possibly free up port 40 and result in a performance gain for the steady flow of *.cfm requests. Anyone out there with an opinion please chime in. Or, if you know where I could find more information on this topic, send me a note. Thanks. Good Fortune, Rick Walters Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services Office: (800) 604-5227 Cell: (407) 491-9848 __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Query Execution Time: CF vs. SQL Plus
Does it take 50 seconds to run the query or 50 seconds to load the page? Are you connecting to the DB using the same driver? How about your network? On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Dave Carabetta wrote: I am working in a CF 4.5 SP2 on Solaris environment. I have a query which I run via TOAD and SQL Plus which comes back in 700 ms at most. But when I run it through a CF template, it takes over 50 second s on average. I have tried connecting to my database via both ODBC and the Merant Oracle driver, and nothing has improved. I ran a detailed Explain Plan analysis on the query and tuned the proper indexes with my DBA. But that hasn't helped either. I also use cfqueryparam religiously, and whi le it works wonders on my other queries, this one is still agonizingly slow. Can anybody point me in a direction to try and track this down? Thanks, Dave. _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: FTP vs HTTP
Good Suggestions, I agree that FTP is a better way to push large files. Problem is, I need to justify opening an anonymous access. The idea that it might boost performance would be a plus, but I'm having trouble finding comparisons. -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 3:39 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: FTP vs HTTP Ditto to howie - http servers and processes are also usually configured to timeout long running request in order to enhance server performance and overall user experience. FTP is a better choice. Mark -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 9:55 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: FTP vs HTTP For a file like that I would definitely use FTP - that is what FTP is for. Most modern ftp servers and clients support resume for one thing (only http/1.1 supports resume and I'm not sure how many web clients support it). And, although there may or may not be a risk using anonymous access to the ftp server it is no more or less of a security risk when providing anonymous http access IMHO. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Rick Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:37 PM Subject: FTP vs HTTP Hi Everyone, I'm searching for opinions and perhaps metrics that might suggest when it is better to channel downloads using FTP vs HTTP from a single web server environment. Essentially, we have a large file (35M) that a significant number of people must download monthly. The question is: What advantage could we gain by using an FTP link vs a HTTP link? Opening an anonymous FTP channel is potentially more risky from a security standpoint. But, we are wondering if channeling this traffic on another port would possibly free up port 40 and result in a performance gain for the steady flow of *.cfm requests. Anyone out there with an opinion please chime in. Or, if you know where I could find more information on this topic, send me a note. Thanks. Good Fortune, Rick Walters Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services Office: (800) 604-5227 Cell: (407) 491-9848 __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Query Execution Time: CF vs. SQL Plus
Does it take 50 seconds to run the query or 50 seconds to load the page? Are you connecting to the DB using the same driver? How about your network? 50 seconds to run the query only. I've even extracted the query into its own template and get the same results. And yes, I am using the same driver. What really baffles me is that it works well in SQL Plus but then chokes in CF. My speculation is that it may have to do with how CF is retrieving and returning the record set. But I wouldn't even know where to look under the hood to analyze that -- I'm not a Unix guy. Also, if this were happening with all my queries, then I'd have something to go on. But it's literally just this one query that is choking, and is actually a lot less complex than some other queries on the page. It's a simple select that calls a User-Defined Oracle function in the SQL along with two other columns from the table. I targeted the UDF as a potential culprit, but even removing that doesn't help. Any other thoughts? Thanks for the reply, Dave. _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: FTP vs HTTP
Why not write a routine that will copy the file into the anonymous area of the ftp server when a user initiates a download? That way you don't always have the files available for anonymous access. I have a routine that once a user initiates the download of a file, it copies the file from our database server up the one of the load balanced web servers for download. Then once the user is done downloading the file it is deleted from the web server. Just a suggestion not sure if it fits your application. Justin Waldrip [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:58 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: FTP vs HTTP Good Suggestions, I agree that FTP is a better way to push large files. Problem is, I need to justify opening an anonymous access. The idea that it might boost performance would be a plus, but I'm having trouble finding comparisons. -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 3:39 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: FTP vs HTTP Ditto to howie - http servers and processes are also usually configured to timeout long running request in order to enhance server performance and overall user experience. FTP is a better choice. Mark -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 9:55 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: FTP vs HTTP For a file like that I would definitely use FTP - that is what FTP is for. Most modern ftp servers and clients support resume for one thing (only http/1.1 supports resume and I'm not sure how many web clients support it). And, although there may or may not be a risk using anonymous access to the ftp server it is no more or less of a security risk when providing anonymous http access IMHO. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Rick Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:37 PM Subject: FTP vs HTTP Hi Everyone, I'm searching for opinions and perhaps metrics that might suggest when it is better to channel downloads using FTP vs HTTP from a single web server environment. Essentially, we have a large file (35M) that a significant number of people must download monthly. The question is: What advantage could we gain by using an FTP link vs a HTTP link? Opening an anonymous FTP channel is potentially more risky from a security standpoint. But, we are wondering if channeling this traffic on another port would possibly free up port 40 and result in a performance gain for the steady flow of *.cfm requests. Anyone out there with an opinion please chime in. Or, if you know where I could find more information on this topic, send me a note. Thanks. Good Fortune, Rick Walters Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services Office: (800) 604-5227 Cell: (407) 491-9848 __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re[2]: FTP vs HTTP
Couldn't you still set your FTP to 'read only' which would prevent someone from uploading something (which would be the big fear I imagine) I've done this in the past to allow clients to grab large files. Check out: http://www.warftp.org/ Very robust FTP server for Win platform. jim RW Good Suggestions, I agree that FTP is a better way to push large files. RW Problem is, I need to justify opening an anonymous access. The idea __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Replace string,House of Fusion
Hi, My URL.filename = d:\dir1\dir2\dir3\test.txt The below line strips out the filename which I want. cfset URL.filename = ListDeleteAt(URL.filename, ListLen(URL.filename, \),\) URL.filename = d:\dir1\dir2\dir3 How can I make the above line read: /dir1/dir2/dir3 __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Replace string,House of Fusion
ListChangeDelims(ListRest(URL.filename, \), /, \) christopher olive, cto, vp of web development atnet solutions, inc. 410.931.4092 http://www.atnetsolutions.com -Original Message- From: phumes1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 1:38 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Replace string,House of Fusion Hi, My URL.filename = d:\dir1\dir2\dir3\test.txt The below line strips out the filename which I want. cfset URL.filename = ListDeleteAt(URL.filename, ListLen(URL.filename, \),\) URL.filename = d:\dir1\dir2\dir3 How can I make the above line read: /dir1/dir2/dir3 __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Refresh Window
Becky: Try this- Assuming that the window underneath (parent) created the pop-up (child) window, you can add this line of code to your input type=submit ... button: onClick=JavaScript: opener.location.reload(); Works like a gem! Cheers, Christian N. Abad ColdFusion Web Developer -Original Message- From: Jones, Becky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 11:58 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Refresh Window Is there a way to Automatically refresh a window? I have a page that has a pop-up window. When you make changes on that fo rm (in the pop-up windown) when i click submit...i want the window undern eath to reflect the changes. the only way it does right now is if i hit the refresh button. is there a way to do this without hitting the refres h button? thanks for your help. bec. * This e-mail, including any attachments, is intended for the receipt and use by the intended addressee(s), and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Need Suggestions
I inherited 1300 static pages that are found by a lookup table. Is the best way to revamp this application to build some templates, put everything in a database and build the page that way? I love suggestions how to set this as a true dynamic application. Any help would be greatful. You can see the current application at www.trusjoist.com/datachunk if that would help. Thank you Dave Clay www.trusjoist.com __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: FTP vs HTTP
did you read the size...file (35M) On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Justin Waldrip wrote: Why not write a routine that will copy the file into the anonymous area of the ftp server when a user initiates a download? That way you don't always have the files available for anonymous access. I have a routine that once a user initiates the download of a file, it copies the file from our database server up the one of the load balanced web servers for download. Then once the user is done downloading the file it is deleted from the web server. Just a suggestion not sure if it fits your application. Justin Waldrip [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:58 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: FTP vs HTTP Good Suggestions, I agree that FTP is a better way to push large files. Problem is, I need to justify opening an anonymous access. The idea that it might boost performance would be a plus, but I'm having trouble finding comparisons. -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 3:39 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: FTP vs HTTP Ditto to howie - http servers and processes are also usually configured to timeout long running request in order to enhance server performance and overall user experience. FTP is a better choice. Mark -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 9:55 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: FTP vs HTTP For a file like that I would definitely use FTP - that is what FTP is for. Most modern ftp servers and clients support resume for one thing (only http/1.1 supports resume and I'm not sure how many web clients support it). And, although there may or may not be a risk using anonymous access to the ftp server it is no more or less of a security risk when providing anonymous http access IMHO. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Rick Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:37 PM Subject: FTP vs HTTP Hi Everyone, I'm searching for opinions and perhaps metrics that might suggest when it is better to channel downloads using FTP vs HTTP from a single web server environment. Essentially, we have a large file (35M) that a significant number of people must download monthly. The question is: What advantage could we gain by using an FTP link vs a HTTP link? Opening an anonymous FTP channel is potentially more risky from a security standpoint. But, we are wondering if channeling this traffic on another port would possibly free up port 40 and result in a performance gain for the steady flow of *.cfm requests. Anyone out there with an opinion please chime in. Or, if you know where I could find more information on this topic, send me a note. Thanks. Good Fortune, Rick Walters Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services Office: (800) 604-5227 Cell: (407) 491-9848 __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Query Execution Time: CF vs. SQL Plus
Not sure if this makes a difference but try writing your query with full names like database.schema.table.field On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Dave Carabetta wrote: Does it take 50 seconds to run the query or 50 seconds to load the page? Are you connecting to the DB using the same driver? How about your network? 50 seconds to run the query only. I've even extracted the query into its own template and get the same results. And yes, I am using the same driver. What really baffles me is that it works well in SQL Plus but then chokes in CF. My speculation is that it may have to do with how CF is retrieving an d returning the record set. But I wouldn't even know where to look under t he hood to analyze that -- I'm not a Unix guy. Also, if this were happening with all my queries, then I'd have something to go on. But it's literally just this one query that is choking, and is actually a lot less complex than some other queries on the page. It's a simple select that calls a User-Defined Oracle function in the SQL along with two other columns from the table. I targeted the UDF as a potential culprit, but even removing that doesn't help. Any other thoughts? Thanks for the reply, Dave. _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: FTP vs HTTP
search google.com On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Rick Walters wrote: Good Suggestions, I agree that FTP is a better way to push large files. Problem is, I need to justify opening an anonymous access. The idea that it might boost performance would be a plus, but I'm having trouble finding comparisons. -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 3:39 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: FTP vs HTTP Ditto to howie - http servers and processes are also usually configured to timeout long running request in order to enhance server performance and overall user experience. FTP is a better choice. Mark -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 9:55 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: FTP vs HTTP For a file like that I would definitely use FTP - that is what FTP is for. Most modern ftp servers and clients support resume for one thing (only http/1.1 supports resume and I'm not sure how many web clients support it). And, although there may or may not be a risk using anonymous access to the ftp server it is no more or less of a security risk when providing anonymous http access IMHO. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Rick Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:37 PM Subject: FTP vs HTTP Hi Everyone, I'm searching for opinions and perhaps metrics that might suggest when it is better to channel downloads using FTP vs HTTP from a single web server environment. Essentially, we have a large file (35M) that a significant number of people must download monthly. The question is: What advantage could we gain by using an FTP link vs a HTTP link? Opening an anonymous FTP channel is potentially more risky from a security standpoint. But, we are wondering if channeling this traffic on another port would possibly free up port 40 and result in a performance gain for the steady flow of *.cfm requests. Anyone out there with an opinion please chime in. Or, if you know where I could find more information on this topic, send me a note. Thanks. Good Fortune, Rick Walters Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services Office: (800) 604-5227 Cell: (407) 491-9848 __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Montana CFUG Meeting
The Brand New Montana Cold Fusion User Group will be meeting this Thursday for those who are interested: Montana CFUG February Meeting February 21st 7:00 PM University of Montana University Center Room 224 Missoula, MT Agenda: - Using SQL: The In's and Out's of writing SQL Statements - CF Security: Keeping your CF Applications secure, CF Server Secure, and how to prevent URL Hacking - General CF Discussion Montana CFUG Website: http://montanacfug.site-o-matic.com Thanks, Jason Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.larzz.com P. 406.728.4422 F. 406.543.4266 You think the Cubs have sore arms? What about the fans in left field? __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: FTP vs HTTP
Well if your copying the file on the same local disk this isnt' a problem. I have copied files larger than that across the network and had no problems. Not to mention this is a process that was said to be run on a monthly basis. -Original Message- From: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 1:34 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: FTP vs HTTP did you read the size...file (35M) On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Justin Waldrip wrote: Why not write a routine that will copy the file into the anonymous area of the ftp server when a user initiates a download? That way you don't always have the files available for anonymous access. I have a routine that once a user initiates the download of a file, it copies the file from our database server up the one of the load balanced web servers for download. Then once the user is done downloading the file it is deleted from the web server. Just a suggestion not sure if it fits your application. Justin Waldrip [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:58 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: FTP vs HTTP Good Suggestions, I agree that FTP is a better way to push large files. Problem is, I need to justify opening an anonymous access. The idea that it might boost performance would be a plus, but I'm having trouble finding comparisons. -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 3:39 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: FTP vs HTTP Ditto to howie - http servers and processes are also usually configured to timeout long running request in order to enhance server performance and overall user experience. FTP is a better choice. Mark -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 9:55 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: FTP vs HTTP For a file like that I would definitely use FTP - that is what FTP is for. Most modern ftp servers and clients support resume for one thing (only http/1.1 supports resume and I'm not sure how many web clients support it). And, although there may or may not be a risk using anonymous access to the ftp server it is no more or less of a security risk when providing anonymous http access IMHO. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Rick Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:37 PM Subject: FTP vs HTTP Hi Everyone, I'm searching for opinions and perhaps metrics that might suggest when it is better to channel downloads using FTP vs HTTP from a single web server environment. Essentially, we have a large file (35M) that a significant number of people must download monthly. The question is: What advantage could we gain by using an FTP link vs a HTTP link? Opening an anonymous FTP channel is potentially more risky from a security standpoint. But, we are wondering if channeling this traffic on another port would possibly free up port 40 and result in a performance gain for the steady flow of *.cfm requests. Anyone out there with an opinion please chime in. Or, if you know where I could find more information on this topic, send me a note. Thanks. Good Fortune, Rick Walters Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services Office: (800) 604-5227 Cell: (407) 491-9848 __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
NHCFUG
Hey all, Does anyone here know if the NHCFUG is still in operation? TIA, __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Query a query by months
I am trying to query a query and process the records by month. My code is: cfloop index=cnt to=12 from=1 cfset QAvg = 0cfset QAvgFinal = 0cfset AvgCnt = 0cfset tcnt = 0 cfquery name=qGetRecords dbtype=query SELECT * FROM qGetResults WHERE (Month(qGetResults.Rundate) = #cnt#) /cfquery cfloop query=qGetRecords cfinclude template=GetClassPlacement.cfm /cfloop My problems are with the WHERE statement. If I do WHERE #Month(qGetResults.RunDate)# = #cnt#, it interprets the data as a variable (1 = 1, 1 = 2, etc) and retirns all records when true (1 = 1). If I leave the pound signs off, I get errors. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Query Execution Time: CF vs. SQL Plus
Not sure if this makes a difference but try writing your query with full names like database.schema.table.field Well, I just ran a test in CF. I substituted the cfqueryparam tags with static values and the page worked perfectly. I then used all CF variables instead, and the page worked perfectly. Then I started putting back in the cfqueryparam tags one at a time. The page was returning perfectly until one line in my WHERE clause. So the quick response is to say well there's your answer, but it's not. See, the cfqueryparam that gets used in the line that chokes is also being used in a previous condition in the WHERE clause, where it works perfectly. It's using this same cfqueryparam again that's choking CF. Any ideas on why that might happen? I know you can re-use cfqueryparams in the same query, so that theory is out. Anything else I'm missing? Baffled, Dave. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: bit mask info
Just wanted to thank all the folks who replied both on- and off-list; the info was exactly what I needed! KT I'm looking for presentations/information/examples regarding bit masks. I've KT looked through the archives, and two presentations are mentioned, but KT neither seem available any longer. Can anyone point me in the right KT direction? thanks -- __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Need Suggestions
On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Dave Clay wrote: I inherited 1300 static pages that are found by a lookup table. Is the best way to revamp this application to build some templates, put everything in a database and build the page that way? That's what I would do unless you like maintenance. I love suggestions how to set this as a true dynamic application. Any help would be greatful. You can see the current application at www.trusjoist.com/datachunk if that would help. Thank you Dave Clay www.trusjoist.com __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Query a query by months
Hi! I think that ColdFusion server does not have the Month function implemented in it's SQL processor (because the query get's processed by CF and never goes to your database server). When you put the pound signs around Month then CF treats it like a function and evaluates it's result once before he sends the resulted text to the SQL processing part. One solution will be that you go throught the query by hand (with query_name.query_field[Row]) and construct the result query. Mack. - Original Message - From: Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: cf-talk Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 11:48 AM Subject: Query a query by months I am trying to query a query and process the records by month. My code is: cfloop index=cnt to=12 from=1 cfset QAvg = 0cfset QAvgFinal = 0cfset AvgCnt = 0cfset tcnt = 0 cfquery name=qGetRecords dbtype=query SELECT * FROM qGetResults WHERE (Month(qGetResults.Rundate) = #cnt#) /cfquery cfloop query=qGetRecords cfinclude template=GetClassPlacement.cfm /cfloop My problems are with the WHERE statement. If I do WHERE #Month(qGetResults.RunDate)# = #cnt#, it interprets the data as a variable (1 = 1, 1 = 2, etc) and retirns all records when true (1 = 1). If I leave the pound signs off, I get errors. __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Query Execution Time: CF vs. SQL Plus
Also, if this were happening with all my queries, then I'd have something to go on. But it's literally just this one query that is choking, and is actually a lot less complex than some other queries on the page. It's a simple select that calls a User-Defined Oracle function in the SQL along with two other columns from the table. I targeted the UDF as a potential culprit, but even removing that doesn't help. Just a thought... Try removing the UDF and putting the query in a new template (one that hasn't run yet) and see if that has an effect. ColdFusion does use some form of template caching. I don't know any of the specific details of that, but is it possible you execute the template, make a change, and re-run it again without the changes taking effect. I believe the above synopsis to be a shot in the dark, however... -- Jeffry Houser | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Need a Web Developer? Contact me! AIM: Reboog711 | Fax / Phone: 860-223-7946 -- My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Band: http://www.farcryfly.com __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
cftree problems
Hi Guys, I am trying to make use of cftree for an internal web project, and when I try to run my code (currently am just running an example of cftree from Macromedia's CF 5 Web App. Construction Kit book) the Applet begins to load and then I get the following error: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: allaire.controls2.CFTreeApplet.class I have noticed the following: at our webroot the following directory structure exists: cfide/classes/allaire/controls within the controls folder there is a CFTree.class, cftreeform.class, and a CFTreeItem.class we have no controls2 folder which the ClassNotFound error references and I cannot see a CFTreeApplet.class file on our server Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, Simon Attley __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: OT: Just wanna bitch
At 08:49 AM 13/02/02 -0800, you wrote: My 2 cents. It can also be a useful marketing tool. You give it away.don't have to support it because it's freeplaster powered by Your Company all over it. There is a company up North here that created a whack load of webtools which are things like: -add a poll to your site -add a subscription mailing list -add a calendar -etc They gave them a way for free and targeted webmasters and ISPs. There was enough traffic they could sell advertising on their site. Then the big company came in and bought their 2 person operation for $2,000,000 CDN!! Sounds like it worked out for them ;-) Bryan Stevenson VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. p. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Query a query by months
I think you need # signs around qGetResults.Rundate in the WHERE clause. CF thinks it's a SQL table.field designator, and of course, SQL freaks when it can't find it.. CF needs to evaluate the result to a vavlue first. -Original Message- From: Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 2:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Query a query by months I am trying to query a query and process the records by month. My code is: cfloop index=cnt to=12 from=1 cfset QAvg = 0cfset QAvgFinal = 0cfset AvgCnt = 0cfset tcnt = 0 cfquery name=qGetRecords dbtype=query SELECT * FROM qGetResults WHERE (Month(qGetResults.Rundate) = #cnt#) /cfquery cfloop query=qGetRecords cfinclude template=GetClassPlacement.cfm /cfloop My problems are with the WHERE statement. If I do WHERE #Month(qGetResults.RunDate)# = #cnt#, it interprets the data as a variable (1 = 1, 1 = 2, etc) and retirns all records when true (1 = 1). If I leave the pound signs off, I get errors. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Query Execution Time: CF vs. SQL Plus
Dave Carabetta wrote: Well, I just ran a test in CF. I substituted the cfqueryparam tags with static values and the page worked perfectly. I then used all CF variables instead, and the page worked perfectly. Then I started putting back in the cfqueryparam tags one at a time. The page was returning perfectly until one line in my WHERE clause. So the quick response is to say well there's your answer, but it's not. See, the cfqueryparam that gets used in the line that chokes is also being used in a previous condition in the WHERE clause, where it works perfectly. It's using this same cfqueryparam again that's choking CF. Any ideas on why that might happen? I know you can re-use cfqueryparams in the same query, so that theory is out. Anything else I'm missing? Could you show the code? Just the where clause? Jochem __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
ActiveEdit hyperlinks
Hey list, I'm attempting to add some custom functionality to ActiveEdit, but didn't want to reinvent the wheel. I'd like to allow the user to add Hyperlinks to a dynamic URL within our site. Basically, when they click the cutom-hyperlink menu-item, I am going to pop up a window that queries our content table and allows them to navigate to the content they would like to link to. It will build the dynamic URL for them, and insert it into the activeEdit text-box wherever their cursor was. Does anyone have any javascript they've already written or suggestions on where to look? I hate writing javascript, especially from scratch. I have a feeling I'm going to have my head in an Oreily book tonight - blech. Adam. __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
quick regular expression question
I seem to be having a problem with this regular expression. Can anyone tell me why? It must be something simple. div align=center[[:space:]a-z0-9A-Z[:punct:][:space:]]+/div All I am trying to do is select everything between some pesky div tags. Thanks __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
OT: using a javascript variable while in ASP
Firt off, I apologize for posting this to the CF list. This is the only list that I am a part of (this and the managers list). What I need to know is while I am in a Script tag doing javascript, I need to have some ASP code. BUT, I need to use a variable from the javascript in my ASP if statement. Has anyone done this before that could help me out? Just contact me off list. Thanks, Brian Yager President - North AL Cold Fusion Users Group Sr. Systems Analyst NCCIM/CIC [EMAIL PROTECTED] (256) 842-8342 __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
activePDF configuration
We have multiple CF webservers and one activePDF server. How do you give the webservers access to the activePDF COM object? Thanks Sean __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: activePDF configuration
Given that they sell it on a server-by-server lisence, I'm not sure I'd t ry. Sure wouldn't ask about it on this list... :) Ian -Original Message- From: Sean McCarthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 1:12 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: activePDF configuration We have multiple CF webservers and one activePDF server. How do you give the webservers access to the activePDF COM object? Thanks Sean __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Cold Fusion code to decode binary base64 attachment
Greetings, I am running CF4.5 on Redhat 6.x. I have subscribed to the USPS Electronic Return service. When I shoot them an xml string I get back a response that is supposed to be the return mailing label in pdf format. The response comes back as binary that I will need to decode as base64 in order to view the label. Anyone have code or a custom tag that will decode the base64 binary? Preferably, I want to just display it on the web page (cfcontent?), and not write it to disk but anything that works would be wonderful. Thanks, Steve __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
