RE: Trying to dynamically populate IFrame content pages...somehow.
Hi, Christian! Your were right! I tried your test and it worked fine. Put it to the test in my app and it worked perfectly! I'm not sure why I thought the variables couldn't be sent through the IFrame Src URL. I've been working on this for two days and my mind was getting into quite a fog over it. I'll have to remember to test approaches simply before putting them into the complicated apps, where many things can cause them to fail, not just the approach itself. I'm still not sure why some of the other approaches weren't working... but I'm just glad this one is. I think the IFrames will make a handy design element. I haven't used them before. Are there any issues with using them besides browser compatibility? Thanks so much for your help! I will sleep better now! (2:45am...yawn) Rick -Original Message- From: Christian Cantrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 1:12 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Trying to dynamically populate IFrame content pages...somehow. Rick, Why can't the variables be URL variables? I think creating them as URL variables is actually your best bet. If you use a scope like session or application, you are certainly looking at race conditions which cause mysterious bugs like the ones you are describing. Consider the following example: Now filler.cfm: #url.myvar# This code works perfectly, rendering three iframes with documents containing the numbers 1, 2, and 3. Hope this helps. Cantrell On Monday, December 2, 2002, at 12:51 AM, Rick Faircloth wrote: > Hi, all. > > I was wondering if anyone had any experience with using Cold Fusion > and IFrames. I've been trying to setup a page that has one or more > IFrames, > depending on query results, that send information to a page that is the > content > page for the IFrames. I loop the output from the query on the first > page, > and the IFrames are created and the IFrame content page does display > in the > IFrame, but the content is the same for each IFrame content page. > > In other words, the page that populates the IFrames is created > dynamically, > based > on the variables sent to it. When the page holding the IFrames loops > through its > query results, those results are sent during each loop to the IFrame > content > page > where it is created dynamically, then the page is brought in to the > IFrame. > > The problem is, the IFrame content page reflects only the last loop's > variables in all > three IFrames. I can't figure out how to get each loop's variables in > the > various IFrames. > Since the variables can't be URL variables or Form variables, I created > application > variables so the variables would be available to the IFrame content > pages. > That worked, but the only version of the IFrame content page to show > up in > the IFrames > was the version with the last loop's variables. > > It seems like what is happening is that the IFrame content page is not > created until > the full page is rendered that contains the IFrames. Then, last, the > IFrame > content pages > are included. In this case, it's the last loop's variables that show > up, > because that's the > last version of the page that was created before it's inclusion in the > IFrames. > > Most likely, only one version of the IFrame content page can exist at > one > time, therefore > it shows up in each IFrame. I even tried creating separate IFrame > content > pages to > populate the IFrames, but even then the variables didn't change. ? > > I hope this makes some sense... > > This is driving me crazy! > > I've just about given up on using IFrames in this manner because they > just seemed to be more trouble than they are worth... > > Rick > > - > Rick Faircloth > Prism Productions > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: CFMAIL / Multi-Part Emails..
Ugh. Here's another thread going on now. You'll see why I say Ugh when you read the thing. http://tinyclick.com/?IUF8G0 --Matt Robertson-- MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com -Original Message- From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 8:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFMAIL / Multi-Part Emails.. Ok.. Seems we have a problem sending multi-part from CFMail. Anyone know the tips/tricks on making it work? TTAIA ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
RE: CFMX and Multipart Mail
Hmmm. Then the problem with the junk chars may have been related to there being *two* ending boundaries in the message. My alteration knocked that down to one, since CFMX CFMAIL does its own opening and closing boundaries no matter what you do, now. One thing I didn't address is the fact that CFMX puts in boundaries no matter what, and so does the developer when doing the alternative bit. Two sets of boundaries... One inside the other. I wonder how compliant *that* is. What a pain this is turning out to be. --Matt Robertson-- MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com -Original Message- From: Samuel Neff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 2:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX and Multipart Mail The boundaries in a Mutlipart-MIME message are not really equal. The last boundary is supposed to have two extra dashes in it. >From RFC 1341: The encapsulation boundary following the last body part is a distinguished delimiter that indicates that no further body parts will follow. Such a delimiter is identical to the previous delimiters, with the addition of two more hyphens at the end of the line: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1341.txt Sam > -Original Message- > From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 3:47 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: CFMX and Multipart Mail (snip) > > Look at your last content boundary statement... see the extra > two dashes at the end? The boundaries should all be > identical. Remove those and your messages will no longer > have the junk visible at the end. > (snip) ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
RE: Architecting Tools
I found a solution to the 'partner resistance' issue... Take the two car garage as your office. Go to and buy bathroom tub wall paneling (it's really white board) and do one wall in the garage :-) T -Original Message- From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 9:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Architecting Tools > >> done with a large surface > > I swear by my 8' by 4' whiteboard in my living room. :-) > My lovely bride wouldn't let that fly... Good thing that Post-its stick to wall paper! Jim Davis ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
Re: Trying to dynamically populate IFrame content pages...somehow.
Rick, Why can't the variables be URL variables? I think creating them as URL variables is actually your best bet. If you use a scope like session or application, you are certainly looking at race conditions which cause mysterious bugs like the ones you are describing. Consider the following example: Now filler.cfm: #url.myvar# This code works perfectly, rendering three iframes with documents containing the numbers 1, 2, and 3. Hope this helps. Cantrell On Monday, December 2, 2002, at 12:51 AM, Rick Faircloth wrote: > Hi, all. > > I was wondering if anyone had any experience with using Cold Fusion > and IFrames. I've been trying to setup a page that has one or more > IFrames, > depending on query results, that send information to a page that is the > content > page for the IFrames. I loop the output from the query on the first > page, > and the IFrames are created and the IFrame content page does display > in the > IFrame, but the content is the same for each IFrame content page. > > In other words, the page that populates the IFrames is created > dynamically, > based > on the variables sent to it. When the page holding the IFrames loops > through its > query results, those results are sent during each loop to the IFrame > content > page > where it is created dynamically, then the page is brought in to the > IFrame. > > The problem is, the IFrame content page reflects only the last loop's > variables in all > three IFrames. I can't figure out how to get each loop's variables in > the > various IFrames. > Since the variables can't be URL variables or Form variables, I created > application > variables so the variables would be available to the IFrame content > pages. > That worked, but the only version of the IFrame content page to show > up in > the IFrames > was the version with the last loop's variables. > > It seems like what is happening is that the IFrame content page is not > created until > the full page is rendered that contains the IFrames. Then, last, the > IFrame > content pages > are included. In this case, it's the last loop's variables that show > up, > because that's the > last version of the page that was created before it's inclusion in the > IFrames. > > Most likely, only one version of the IFrame content page can exist at > one > time, therefore > it shows up in each IFrame. I even tried creating separate IFrame > content > pages to > populate the IFrames, but even then the variables didn't change. ? > > I hope this makes some sense... > > This is driving me crazy! > > I've just about given up on using IFrames in this manner because they > just seemed to be more trouble than they are worth... > > Rick > > - > Rick Faircloth > Prism Productions > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
Trying to dynamically populate IFrame content pages...somehow.
Hi, all. I was wondering if anyone had any experience with using Cold Fusion and IFrames. I've been trying to setup a page that has one or more IFrames, depending on query results, that send information to a page that is the content page for the IFrames. I loop the output from the query on the first page, and the IFrames are created and the IFrame content page does display in the IFrame, but the content is the same for each IFrame content page. In other words, the page that populates the IFrames is created dynamically, based on the variables sent to it. When the page holding the IFrames loops through its query results, those results are sent during each loop to the IFrame content page where it is created dynamically, then the page is brought in to the IFrame. The problem is, the IFrame content page reflects only the last loop's variables in all three IFrames. I can't figure out how to get each loop's variables in the various IFrames. Since the variables can't be URL variables or Form variables, I created application variables so the variables would be available to the IFrame content pages. That worked, but the only version of the IFrame content page to show up in the IFrames was the version with the last loop's variables. It seems like what is happening is that the IFrame content page is not created until the full page is rendered that contains the IFrames. Then, last, the IFrame content pages are included. In this case, it's the last loop's variables that show up, because that's the last version of the page that was created before it's inclusion in the IFrames. Most likely, only one version of the IFrame content page can exist at one time, therefore it shows up in each IFrame. I even tried creating separate IFrame content pages to populate the IFrames, but even then the variables didn't change. ? I hope this makes some sense... This is driving me crazy! I've just about given up on using IFrames in this manner because they just seemed to be more trouble than they are worth... Rick - Rick Faircloth Prism Productions ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
RE: Architecting Tools
> >> done with a large surface > > I swear by my 8' by 4' whiteboard in my living room. :-) > My lovely bride wouldn't let that fly... Good thing that Post-its stick to wall paper! Jim Davis ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: Architecting Tools
>> done with a large surface I swear by my 8' by 4' whiteboard in my living room. :-) -Original Message- From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 12:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Architecting Tools > I'm doing some research on what kinds of design tools ColdFusion > developers find useful when initially speccing out a project. By > design, I don't necessarily mean graphic design so much as > application > architecture, however eventually graphic design has to be taken into > account, as well. For instance, do you use Visio to mock up the > interface, or HTML, or just a light-weight version of the app in CF? > Do you use Photoshop? Freehand? Graph paper (my favorite > technique)? > How about database design, workflow, and process diagrams? Any > information would be greatly appreciated. First level of inteface design and flow is done with a large surface and a butt-load of post-it notes. Gotta love post it notes! Gotta love large surfaces! The great thing about Post-its is that they can represent anything, but they look like nothing. So you can create a post-it representing each button on a form or process and have a user "run" the application (with you shoving new post-its under their noses when they "click"). They can go through the whole app and you never here "I'd rather see that color or that logo" or anything like that - the Post-its let you focus exclusively on flow and information design without bringing computer design into the convesation. I also do a lot of role-play and competator comparison during the discovery phase. There's a nice product from http://www.imarkup.com/ that lets you annotate web pages (with drawing, notes, voice recordings, file attachments, etc) that can really make the competator review stage a lot easy (you work with your client and capture what they say, then review it later). Put post-its on a white board, one for each "page" (content/tool/access point/etc) of the site and connect the dots to flesh out your navigational needs. Once its done transfer it to a digital medium. I also like to have a high-quality digital camera around to take snapshots of the board through out the process. I'm a Corel Brat from version two so I'm now using version 11 to do most of my mocks and graphic design (IMHO CorelDraw/PhotoPaint are much better suited the web work than PhotoShop/Illustrator - although the latter are much more suited to print work than Corel). With the Corel Suite alone I can do Flash work (from CorelDraw directly or via the new CorelRAVE), PDF creation (a standard feature not requiring Distiller), image maps, cuts, optimizations, etc - it's a very web-focused package. Aside from that Visio and Word make a big showing... I use a bastadized version of the Summit-D methodology and lately I've been mixing that with a more bastardized version of UML - so Visio and Word are needed (lots of documentation... Always documentation!) I like what I see of UML so far... But it's very difficult to apply any "complete" methodology to the kind of very small projects I freelance on. The office is using a REALLY bastardized version of UML although they think that they're using it properly (at least you'll hear the management say "actor" and "use case" a lot - even if they don't have a clue as to what the words mean). Jim Davis ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: Architecting Tools
> I'm doing some research on what kinds of design tools ColdFusion > developers find useful when initially speccing out a project. By > design, I don't necessarily mean graphic design so much as > application > architecture, however eventually graphic design has to be taken into > account, as well. For instance, do you use Visio to mock up the > interface, or HTML, or just a light-weight version of the app in CF? > Do you use Photoshop? Freehand? Graph paper (my favorite > technique)? > How about database design, workflow, and process diagrams? Any > information would be greatly appreciated. First level of inteface design and flow is done with a large surface and a butt-load of post-it notes. Gotta love post it notes! Gotta love large surfaces! The great thing about Post-its is that they can represent anything, but they look like nothing. So you can create a post-it representing each button on a form or process and have a user "run" the application (with you shoving new post-its under their noses when they "click"). They can go through the whole app and you never here "I'd rather see that color or that logo" or anything like that - the Post-its let you focus exclusively on flow and information design without bringing computer design into the convesation. I also do a lot of role-play and competator comparison during the discovery phase. There's a nice product from http://www.imarkup.com/ that lets you annotate web pages (with drawing, notes, voice recordings, file attachments, etc) that can really make the competator review stage a lot easy (you work with your client and capture what they say, then review it later). Put post-its on a white board, one for each "page" (content/tool/access point/etc) of the site and connect the dots to flesh out your navigational needs. Once its done transfer it to a digital medium. I also like to have a high-quality digital camera around to take snapshots of the board through out the process. I'm a Corel Brat from version two so I'm now using version 11 to do most of my mocks and graphic design (IMHO CorelDraw/PhotoPaint are much better suited the web work than PhotoShop/Illustrator - although the latter are much more suited to print work than Corel). With the Corel Suite alone I can do Flash work (from CorelDraw directly or via the new CorelRAVE), PDF creation (a standard feature not requiring Distiller), image maps, cuts, optimizations, etc - it's a very web-focused package. Aside from that Visio and Word make a big showing... I use a bastadized version of the Summit-D methodology and lately I've been mixing that with a more bastardized version of UML - so Visio and Word are needed (lots of documentation... Always documentation!) I like what I see of UML so far... But it's very difficult to apply any "complete" methodology to the kind of very small projects I freelance on. The office is using a REALLY bastardized version of UML although they think that they're using it properly (at least you'll hear the management say "actor" and "use case" a lot - even if they don't have a clue as to what the words mean). Jim Davis ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
Re: CF Studio 4.5 Search Results
If you view the HTML results in your browser, you can just copy and paste from your browser to a text file so you don't have to worry about the HTML tags. Easier than having to strip them. Cantrell On Sunday, December 1, 2002, at 11:42 PM, Jim Davis wrote: > Sort of (I think that it's the same as in 5.0). > > When you right click on the results pane you should get the option to > "browse" results - this will create an HTML page of the results that > you > can save. > > You might have to "strip tags" to get a plain list (and even then I > don't think it's completely plain). > > Hope this helps, > > Jim Davis > >> -Original Message- >> From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 11:21 PM >> To: CF-Talk >> Subject: CF Studio 4.5 Search Results >> >> >> Does anyone know if there's a way to export the search >> results list from a multi-file search in CF Studio 4.5 to a >> text file or the like? I've got a search that returned >> several hundred records and I'd like to be able to save the >> search criteria, mark my place in the list and go back to it, >> so I don't have to go through the entire list all in one sitting. >> >> s. isaac dealey954-776-0046 >> >> new epoch http://www.turnkey.to >> >> lead architect, tapestry cms http://products.turnkey.to >> >> certified advanced coldfusion 5 developer >> http://www.macromedia.com/v1/handlers/index.cf> m?ID=21816 >> >> >> >> >> > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: List Dead?
Ack! Didn't think of that. But thought I'd leave a tired and overworked network admin alone for a while. ;) | -Original Message- | From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 7:33 PM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: Re: List Dead? | | | I noticed it after not seeing any posts today and not getting | a post to CF-RegEx on a visual RegEx builder. You just | confirmed it. Now if you emailed me personally, I'd have seen | it earlier. :) | | | > I just knew you'd grab it just as I thought to mention it. :) | > | > Lee | > | > | > | -Original Message- | > | From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | > | Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 3:34 PM | > | To: CF-Talk | > | Subject: Re: List Dead? | > | | > | | > | Looks like the scheduler went south and took the lists | with it. I'm | > | on it. | > | | > | | > | > Anyone home? | > | > | > | > | > | | > | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: CF Studio 4.5 Search Results
Sort of (I think that it's the same as in 5.0). When you right click on the results pane you should get the option to "browse" results - this will create an HTML page of the results that you can save. You might have to "strip tags" to get a plain list (and even then I don't think it's completely plain). Hope this helps, Jim Davis > -Original Message- > From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 11:21 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: CF Studio 4.5 Search Results > > > Does anyone know if there's a way to export the search > results list from a multi-file search in CF Studio 4.5 to a > text file or the like? I've got a search that returned > several hundred records and I'd like to be able to save the > search criteria, mark my place in the list and go back to it, > so I don't have to go through the entire list all in one sitting. > > s. isaac dealey954-776-0046 > > new epoch http://www.turnkey.to > > lead architect, tapestry cms http://products.turnkey.to > > certified advanced coldfusion 5 developer > http://www.macromedia.com/v1/handlers/index.cf> m?ID=21816 > > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
CF Studio 4.5 Search Results
Does anyone know if there's a way to export the search results list from a multi-file search in CF Studio 4.5 to a text file or the like? I've got a search that returned several hundred records and I'd like to be able to save the search criteria, mark my place in the list and go back to it, so I don't have to go through the entire list all in one sitting. s. isaac dealey954-776-0046 new epoch http://www.turnkey.to lead architect, tapestry cms http://products.turnkey.to certified advanced coldfusion 5 developer http://www.macromedia.com/v1/handlers/index.cfm?ID=21816 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
Re: List Dead?
I noticed it after not seeing any posts today and not getting a post to CF-RegEx on a visual RegEx builder. You just confirmed it. Now if you emailed me personally, I'd have seen it earlier. :) > I just knew you'd grab it just as I thought to mention it. :) > > Lee > > > | -Original Message- > | From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > | Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 3:34 PM > | To: CF-Talk > | Subject: Re: List Dead? > | > | > | Looks like the scheduler went south and took the lists with > | it. I'm on it. > | > | > | > Anyone home? > | > > | > > | > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: Architecting Tools
Any idea, Peter, what Adalon costs? | -Original Message- | From: Tilbrook, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 6:50 PM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: RE: Architecting Tools | | | I quite like Adalon from Synthis Corp. http://www.synthis.com ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
RE: List Dead?
I just knew you'd grab it just as I thought to mention it. :) Lee | -Original Message- | From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 3:34 PM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: Re: List Dead? | | | Looks like the scheduler went south and took the lists with | it. I'm on it. | | | > Anyone home? | > | > | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: Architecting Tools
I quite like Adalon from Synthis Corp. http://www.synthis.com -Original Message- From: Christian Cantrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 2 December 2002 11:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Architecting Tools I'm doing some research on what kinds of design tools ColdFusion developers find useful when initially speccing out a project. By design, I don't necessarily mean graphic design so much as application architecture, however eventually graphic design has to be taken into account, as well. For instance, do you use Visio to mock up the interface, or HTML, or just a light-weight version of the app in CF? Do you use Photoshop? Freehand? Graph paper (my favorite technique)? How about database design, workflow, and process diagrams? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Cantrell ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
Re: Architecting Tools
> Graphics: > I use Paint Shop Pro to mock up simple graphics, icons and > text-based images. I use Google's Image Search to 'create' > more complicated graphics. (Copyright, anyone?) Ha! Vee don' need no schtinking copyright... ;P I used to use Paint Shop way back when. I actually preferred it before they removed all the extra tools when they became more commercial and increased their price. Since then I've always been much more comfortable with Adobe Illustrator than with Photoshop. All my non-photorealistic graphics like logos and such are done with Illustrator. My landscapes I get from clip art, touch them up and crop to size in Photoshop. s. isaac dealey954-776-0046 new epoch http://www.turnkey.to lead architect, tapestry cms http://products.turnkey.to certified advanced coldfusion 5 developer http://www.macromedia.com/v1/handlers/index.cfm?ID=21816 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
RE: Architecting Tools
You might want to look at Adalon over on www.synthis.com -Original Message- From: Christian Cantrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 December 2002 00:50 To: CF-Talk Subject: Architecting Tools I'm doing some research on what kinds of design tools ColdFusion developers find useful when initially speccing out a project. By design, I don't necessarily mean graphic design so much as application architecture, however eventually graphic design has to be taken into account, as well. For instance, do you use Visio to mock up the interface, or HTML, or just a light-weight version of the app in CF? Do you use Photoshop? Freehand? Graph paper (my favorite technique)? How about database design, workflow, and process diagrams? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Cantrell ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: CFMAIL / Multi-Part Emails..
> Ok.. Seems we have a problem sending multi-part from > CFMail. Anyone > know the tips/tricks on making it work? > TTAIA Hi Lee, Here's a recent thread on the subject from the cf-talk archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=messages&threadid=184 70&forumid=4#94088 Sorry about the wrap. :) hth s. isaac dealey954-776-0046 new epoch http://www.turnkey.to lead architect, tapestry cms http://products.turnkey.to certified advanced coldfusion 5 developer http://www.macromedia.com/v1/handlers/index.cfm?ID=21816 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: Architecting Tools
1. starts with ideas in notepad/on a whiteboard. 2. progresses to visio (if there is db work involved) 3. mock up of logo/interface in photoshop/illustrator if there is graphical work to be included. 4. if all things are a go, i then slice up the graphic in photoshop drop them into a table layout that i have figured out will work, and then on to the code. 5. no code until contract is signed and 1/2 deposit is rec'vd tony -Original Message- From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 8:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Architecting Tools I've used Visio, which I like. I've never used Rational Rose or similar "heavy-duty" design tools. I've also started the spec for new projects by building a preliminary data structure using Enterprise Manager and screen-capturing a db diagram. This is only if the client is an IT consulting company or some other technically savvy person(s), since the db diagram isn't very meaningful to end users. For everyone else I either go straight from description to preliminary functionality or to Visio for a sitemap or an application flow diagram. In my case UI design doesn't enter into it until the preliminary functionality is built, and although I build a style sheet into the preliminary functionality phase, graphic design isn't considered (much) until after the UI design is finalized, to prevent wasted efforts on graphic designs which have to be entirely scrapped or overhauled due to changes in the interface. I've talked to people who started out as graphic artists and moved into programming who start with a visual mockup of the front page of the site or application using Photoshop and finalize the look and feel before any functionality is built. I suspect this is largely because where I'm much more comfortable with code and code revisions, they're much more comfortable with photoshop and visual changes. s. isaac dealey954-776-0046 new epoch http://www.turnkey.to lead architect, tapestry cms http://products.turnkey.to certified advanced coldfusion 5 developer http://www.macromedia.com/v1/handlers/index.cfm?ID=21816 > I'm doing some research on what kinds of design tools > ColdFusion > developers find useful when initially speccing out a > project. By > design, I don't necessarily mean graphic design so much as > application > architecture, however eventually graphic design has to be > taken into > account, as well. For instance, do you use Visio to mock > up the > interface, or HTML, or just a light-weight version of the > app in CF? > Do you use Photoshop? Freehand? Graph paper (my favorite > technique)? > How about database design, workflow, and process diagrams? > Any > information would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks, > Cantrell ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Re: Architecting Tools
I've used Visio, which I like. I've never used Rational Rose or similar "heavy-duty" design tools. I've also started the spec for new projects by building a preliminary data structure using Enterprise Manager and screen-capturing a db diagram. This is only if the client is an IT consulting company or some other technically savvy person(s), since the db diagram isn't very meaningful to end users. For everyone else I either go straight from description to preliminary functionality or to Visio for a sitemap or an application flow diagram. In my case UI design doesn't enter into it until the preliminary functionality is built, and although I build a style sheet into the preliminary functionality phase, graphic design isn't considered (much) until after the UI design is finalized, to prevent wasted efforts on graphic designs which have to be entirely scrapped or overhauled due to changes in the interface. I've talked to people who started out as graphic artists and moved into programming who start with a visual mockup of the front page of the site or application using Photoshop and finalize the look and feel before any functionality is built. I suspect this is largely because where I'm much more comfortable with code and code revisions, they're much more comfortable with photoshop and visual changes. s. isaac dealey954-776-0046 new epoch http://www.turnkey.to lead architect, tapestry cms http://products.turnkey.to certified advanced coldfusion 5 developer http://www.macromedia.com/v1/handlers/index.cfm?ID=21816 > I'm doing some research on what kinds of design tools > ColdFusion > developers find useful when initially speccing out a > project. By > design, I don't necessarily mean graphic design so much as > application > architecture, however eventually graphic design has to be > taken into > account, as well. For instance, do you use Visio to mock > up the > interface, or HTML, or just a light-weight version of the > app in CF? > Do you use Photoshop? Freehand? Graph paper (my favorite > technique)? > How about database design, workflow, and process diagrams? > Any > information would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks, > Cantrell ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: CFX_IMAGE
Just put together a thumb nail routine. The overlay command is copy 5,5,original - Original Message - From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 2:30 PM Subject: CFX_IMAGE > Hey All, > > Does anyone have a code snippet showing how to add an image to an existing > image using CFX_IMAGE? > > TIA > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > t. 250.920.8830 > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > Macromedia Associate Partner > www.macromedia.com > - > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group > Founder & Director > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
RE: Architecting Tools
Christian, there is a whole methodology which grew out of Fusebox and is still used heavily in Fusebox called FLiP. There are many open source tools out there that sprung out of this approach. Here are some good links on this subject: - http://www.clickz.com/sales/traffic/article.php/1491921 http://www.fusebox.org/forums/ (This is the Fusebox Forums lots of good stupp there including a thread on FLiP) http://www.fusebox.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=methodology.steps You do not need to use Fusebox to take advantage of the details in these locations. For the record, we do use Fusebox and find it extremely useful in many many ways. Hth. Kind Regards - Mike Brunt, CTO Webapper Blog http://www.webapper.net Web site http://www.webapper.com Downey CA Office 562.243.6255 AIM - webappermb Web Application Specialists -Original Message- From: Christian Cantrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 4:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Architecting Tools I'm doing some research on what kinds of design tools ColdFusion developers find useful when initially speccing out a project. By design, I don't necessarily mean graphic design so much as application architecture, however eventually graphic design has to be taken into account, as well. For instance, do you use Visio to mock up the interface, or HTML, or just a light-weight version of the app in CF? Do you use Photoshop? Freehand? Graph paper (my favorite technique)? How about database design, workflow, and process diagrams? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Cantrell ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
Re: Architecting Tools
Hi Layout: I use pencil and paper to lay out tables and forms. I have seen others use Paint Shop Pro to take screen shots and move things around, and then implement in HTML using CF Studio 5 (and notepad). SQL: I use SQL+ to prepare views and complicated queries. Site Structure: Pencil and paper flow charts are the most flexible for me. If I had better Visio skills I would probably use Visio here. Graphics: I use Paint Shop Pro to mock up simple graphics, icons and text-based images. I use Google's Image Search to 'create' more complicated graphics. (Copyright, anyone?) Databases: MS Access to prepare db structure Project management: I don't like MS Project - don't like the resource allocation stuff, so I just use a flat document like a Word doc or email messages and reminders. When it's time to display a demo I usually use a light-weight CF App with hard-coded data. HTH > >I'm doing some research on what kinds of design tools ColdFusion >developers find useful when initially speccing out a project. By >design, I don't necessarily mean graphic design so much as application >architecture, however eventually graphic design has to be taken into >account, as well. For instance, do you use Visio to mock up the >interface, or HTML, or just a light-weight version of the app in CF? >Do you use Photoshop? Freehand? Graph paper (my favorite technique)? >How about database design, workflow, and process diagrams? Any >information would be greatly appreciated. > >Thanks, >Cantrell > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Re: List Dead?
Yep, CFExecutive wasn't starting up for some reason and that controls the scheduler. I've set it to retry a few times if it fails on reboot. This should go into the FAQ. > I assumed the same but it looks like the scheduler in CF has decided to go > totally south. No error messages, no alerts, nothing. I did find the executive > service not running which may have been an issue, but > I'm still on it. > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Anyone home? > > --- > > > > I just assumed it was quiet cos of the US Thanksgiving weekend ;-) > > > > Gyrus > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > work: http://www.tengai.co.uk > > play: http://www.norlonto.net > > PGP key available > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
Architecting Tools
I'm doing some research on what kinds of design tools ColdFusion developers find useful when initially speccing out a project. By design, I don't necessarily mean graphic design so much as application architecture, however eventually graphic design has to be taken into account, as well. For instance, do you use Visio to mock up the interface, or HTML, or just a light-weight version of the app in CF? Do you use Photoshop? Freehand? Graph paper (my favorite technique)? How about database design, workflow, and process diagrams? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Cantrell ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
RE: List Dead?
the hangover, caused by turkey and beer is amazingly debilitating ;) we should all be back monday!! later on list... tw ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Re: List Dead?
I assumed the same but it looks like the scheduler in CF has decided to go totally south. No error messages, no alerts, nothing. I did find the executive service not running which may have been an issue, but I'm still on it. > - Original Message - > From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Anyone home? > --- > > I just assumed it was quiet cos of the US Thanksgiving weekend ;-) > > Gyrus > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > work: http://www.tengai.co.uk > play: http://www.norlonto.net > PGP key available > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
Re: [SOT] CFX vs CFObject interface to Java program
On Sunday, December 1, 2002, at 07:40 AM, Dick Applebaum wrote: >Can either be recompiled without recycling CFMX (to recognize >the latest class file)? > I have found that both Java classes invoked with cfobject and CFX Java implementations do not get re-loaded when the class file changes. It seems the JVM caches them both after initially loading them, requiring that the server be restarted for the changes to take effect. I have not looked into a work-around, though, and I should point out that I'm using a unsupported configuration of ColdFusion MX (on OS X), but I'm not completely surprised by this behavior. Class-loading can be a tricky thing. >Is there a Java WDDX interface? Apparently there are WDDX Java libraries available from wddx.org, however I have not been able to reach the site this evening to verify. Cantrell ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
Re: List Dead?
- Original Message - From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Anyone home? --- I just assumed it was quiet cos of the US Thanksgiving weekend ;-) Gyrus [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: http://www.tengai.co.uk play: http://www.norlonto.net PGP key available ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
Re: [SOT] CFX vs CFObject interface to Java program
Dick Applebaum wrote: > > The interface will invoke several different methods in the Java program, > for example: > > Get the names of all the Tables in a particular database > > Get the names all the columns in a specific database (in the order > defined) > > Get the attributes of columns in a specific database > > Get the ResultSet from executing a database query > > OK? Looks good. > My questions are: > >What interface should I use -- the CFX custom tag or cfobject? >Is it more likely that a remote shared host would install one or the > other? Customtag. I would expect that this is most usefull in a shared hosting environment, where access to the database with tools like Enterprise manager, SQL+ and psql is restricted and no sane admin would permit cfobject on a shared host. The other option would be to make a nice remotely accessible CFC from it. Then the admin could install it in a separate directory, deny access to it through direct inclusion for other users and make it available as a web service. I imagine some of the more capable Flash programmers could build a pretty cool universal database administrator from it :-) Jochem ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
RE: List Dead?
It has been very quiet today but I got your email Lee. Kind Regards - Mike Brunt, CTO Webapper Blog http://www.webapper.net Web site http://www.webapper.com Downey CA Office 562.243.6255 AIM - webappermb Web Application Specialists -Original Message- From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 1:30 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: List Dead? Anyone home? ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Re: List Dead?
Looks like the scheduler went south and took the lists with it. I'm on it. > Anyone home? > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
List Dead?
Anyone home? ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
[SOT] CFX vs CFObject interface to Java program
I am implementing a generalized process to retrieve DatabaseMetadata through the JDBC driver. This should support any RDBMS that has a JDBC driver. This requires use of a Java program because CFMX cannot be induced to create a null (necessary for the interface to the DatabaseMetadata). Thanks to a lot of help from others, the basics are working: A CFMX template invokes the Java program, passing a request The Java program retrieves the DatabaseMetadata. The Java program returns the requested information (usually a java.sql.ResultSet or a string) to the CFMX template The CFMX template formats and presents the information. The interface will invoke several different methods in the Java program, for example: Get the names of all the Tables in a particular database Get the names all the columns in a specific database (in the order defined) Get the attributes of columns in a specific database Get the ResultSet from executing a database query OK? My questions are: What interface should I use -- the CFX custom tag or cfobject? Can either be recompiled without recycling CFMX (to recognize the latest class file)? Is it more likely that a remote shared host would install one or the other? Is there a Java WDDX interface? As Jochem has suggested, a better solution would be for MM to provide a cfdatabasemetada tag, but until that is available I need to roll my own. TIA Dick ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
CFMAIL / Multi-Part Emails..
Ok.. Seems we have a problem sending multi-part from CFMail. Anyone know the tips/tricks on making it work? TTAIA ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm