Grouping help

2004-04-02 Thread Jake McKee
I'm trying to run a query then tag each day of the query with a title.
Something like:

== March 1 ==

-  Entry 1

-  Entry 2

-  Entry 3



== March 2 ==

-  Entry 4

-  Entry 5

== March 7 ==

-  Entry 6

-  Entry 7

Any ideas how to do this?

Thanks!
Jake
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RE: desktop application

2004-04-02 Thread Jim Davis
Ooops - my bad.  I don't think so. even if it did the system objects that
make it truly useful wouldn't be there.

But for Windows it's still sweet.  ;^)

Jim Davis

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From: Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:51 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: desktop application

On Fri, 2004-04-02 at 20:27, Jim Davis wrote:
> Take a look at the HTA application framework from Microsoft (go to
> masdn.microsoft.com and choose "library", then choose "Web Technologies"
> then "HTA").  I've been using it recently and it's pretty sweet.

I think he said it has to work on Mac. Does that work on Mac?

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RE: desktop application

2004-04-02 Thread Rob
On Fri, 2004-04-02 at 20:27, Jim Davis wrote:
> Take a look at the HTA application framework from Microsoft (go to
> masdn.microsoft.com and choose "library", then choose "Web Technologies"
> then "HTA").  I've been using it recently and it's pretty sweet.

I think he said it has to work on Mac. Does that work on Mac?

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RE: desktop application

2004-04-02 Thread Jim Davis
Take a look at the HTA application framework from Microsoft (go to
masdn.microsoft.com and choose "library", then choose "Web Technologies"
then "HTA").  I've been using it recently and it's pretty sweet.

Basically all it is a single tag that informs IE to open in an "application
mode" - no browser chrome, right click, menu, etc and gives it the same
system access as any other application - you can (using _javascript_ and COM
objects) call web pages, write to the file system or system registry, access
hardware resources (scanners, cameras, etc) and whatnot.

The applications themselves are built totally in IE using
HTML/DHTML/CSS/Script/etc - all the web technologies that you know and love.
You can embed Flash (or other plugins) into the app just like you would in
any web page.

Really fun stuff.

Jim Davis

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From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 2:58 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: SOT: desktop application

I have a question about what the best practice would be for creating a
desktop application.  I do websites for some different bands, and they
all have an e-mail sign-up on their website.  Most of them also have
some kind of a paper sign-up at concerts for people to sign up for the
email list.  I was considering building an app that would run on a
desktop to allow people at concerts to enter their email address and
write it to a text or xml file that could then be uploaded to the
webserver and parsed into the database.

My question is what would be the best method to do this?  I was thinking
of doing the front end in Flash but I'm not sure how to write to a file
from there.  In theory, this app would need to work on a mac and a pc.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

John Burns

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Re: form.cfid ignored. Why?

2004-04-02 Thread stylo stylo
> so you open up the application.cfm and put your code above the 
> cfapplication tag - voila - your code executes before the 
> cfapplication tag.

I understand that, but the page is in a folder with many pages all using the same application.cfm page. I'd have to rig the application.cfm for one page. Maybe have to...

Thanks for all the info. Helpful!
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Re: Cold Fusion MX install problem

2004-04-02 Thread Jim Watkins
Thanks Debbie,

Looks like that will solve my problem
Jim Watkins

  - Original Message - 
  From: Debbie Dickerson 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 5:51 PM
  Subject: RE: Cold Fusion MX install problem

  Are you installing 6.0 or 6.1? You'll have much better luck with 6.1, since
  it can properly handle installing on Windows 2003/IIS6. 
  http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/win2003_path_error
  .htm
  
  r.htm> 

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  From: Jim Watkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Fri, April 02, 2004 5:06 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Cold Fusion MX install problem

  When attempting to install Cold Fusion MX on Windows 2003 Server I run into
  following problem:
  First I key in SN of MX version then I key in SN of version 5.0.  I do not
  have 5.0 running as I am installing on new machine.  I select IIS server
  then I am asked for directories to install in. First directory is ok but
  next selection gives me default of  \ (slash).  If I attempt to select an
  install directory I get a pop up error immediately saying no such directory
  exists and the install crashes.

  Please help and I apologize if this has already been dealt with.

  Jim Watkins 
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RE: Cold Fusion MX install problem

2004-04-02 Thread Debbie Dickerson
Are you installing 6.0 or 6.1? You'll have much better luck with 6.1, since
it can properly handle installing on Windows 2003/IIS6. 
http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/win2003_path_error
.htm

r.htm> 

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From: Jim Watkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Fri, April 02, 2004 5:06 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Cold Fusion MX install problem

When attempting to install Cold Fusion MX on Windows 2003 Server I run into
following problem:
First I key in SN of MX version then I key in SN of version 5.0.  I do not
have 5.0 running as I am installing on new machine.  I select IIS server
then I am asked for directories to install in. First directory is ok but
next selection gives me default of  \ (slash).  If I attempt to select an
install directory I get a pop up error immediately saying no such directory
exists and the install crashes.

Please help and I apologize if this has already been dealt with.

Jim Watkins 
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RE: cfimport

2004-04-02 Thread Tyler Silcox
"The cfimport tag must be on the page that uses the imported tags. For
example, if you use a cfimport tag on a page that you include with the
cfinclude call, you cannot use the imported tags on the page that has the
cfinclude tag. Similarly, if you have a cfimport tag on your Application.cfm
page, the imported tags are available on the Application.cfm page only, not
on the other pages in the application. ColdFusion does not throw an error in
these situations, but the imported tags do not run."

 
    Love,
    LiveDocs

 
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/6.1/htmldocs/tags-p62.htm#wp269376
7

 
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From: Taco Fleur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 5:00 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: cfimport

Why is it that when I call cfimport from any other page then where I will
use the tags in the library, it just won't evaluate?

For example, if I call the cfimport tag from the application.cfm and make
reference to it from another page it just won't use the tag.
It's just a bit unclear as to why this is happening.

Taco Fleur

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RE: cfimport

2004-04-02 Thread Barney Boisvert
CFIMPORT is a compile-time thing, and since each CF page is compiled into a
separate class, you have to use CFIMPORT in every template you need the tag
library.  Not once per request, once per template.  And since it's a
compile-time thing, if you use mappings in your CFIMPORT path (possible in
6.1), and then change the mapping, you must delete all your compiled classes
and cycle CFMX.

Cheers,
barneyb

> -Original Message-
> From: Taco Fleur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 2:00 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: cfimport
> 
> Why is it that when I call cfimport from any other page then 
> where I will
> use the tags in the library, it just won't evaluate?
>  
> For example, if I call the cfimport tag from the 
> application.cfm and make
> reference to it from another page it just won't use the tag.
> It's just a bit unclear as to why this is happening.
>  
> Taco Fleur
> 
> Tell me and I will forget
> Show me and I will remember
> Teach me and I will learn 
>  
> 
> 
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Cold Fusion MX install problem

2004-04-02 Thread Jim Watkins
When attempting to install Cold Fusion MX on Windows 2003 Server I run into
following problem:
First I key in SN of MX version then I key in SN of version 5.0.  I do not
have 5.0 running as I am installing on new machine.  I select IIS server
then I am asked for directories to install in. First directory is ok but
next selection gives me default of  \ (slash).  If I attempt to select an
install directory I get a pop up error immediately saying no such directory
exists and the install crashes.

Please help and I apologize if this has already been dealt with.

Jim Watkins
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RE: cfimport

2004-04-02 Thread Douglas.Knudsen
that's the way it is d00d.

 
Honestly, that's the way its designed.  Was much discussion on this once on cfcdev.
An archive of the CFCDev list is available at   www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Doug

-Original Message-
From: Taco Fleur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 5:00 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: cfimport

Why is it that when I call cfimport from any other page then where I will
use the tags in the library, it just won't evaluate?

For example, if I call the cfimport tag from the application.cfm and make
reference to it from another page it just won't use the tag.
It's just a bit unclear as to why this is happening.

Taco Fleur

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cfimport

2004-04-02 Thread Taco Fleur
Why is it that when I call cfimport from any other page then where I will
use the tags in the library, it just won't evaluate?

 
For example, if I call the cfimport tag from the application.cfm and make
reference to it from another page it just won't use the tag.
It's just a bit unclear as to why this is happening.

 
Taco Fleur

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Re: Credit Card Processing options

2004-04-02 Thread Matt Robertson
Butch Zaccheo wrote:
>...Have had some problems recently but all seems to be ironed out now. 
>If you are processing via http post, Matt Robertson put together a 
>custom tag that does the trick... The tag is free and easy to setup. 
>Bank of America¹s Authorization/Settlement service is fairly 
>inexpensive...

I wouldn't use BofA again if I can help it.  They have zero CF expertise in their tech department until you get to their head guy, which takes a lot of perseverance.  Dave Watts, on this list, is really the guy who figured out the last part of the recent problem, and how to fix it.

About that tag, you can get a copy at the MM Exchange, or a direct link from my site.

I was looking at a service Paul Giesenhagen at QuillDesign.com recommends if we couldn't get the BofA thing figured out.  I was almost sorry we did as that other service definitely seemed to be a great service priced right and staffed by people who were there to help.

I forget its name now but Paul has a page hidden away on his site thats an affiliate link.  He can point you to it.

Happy Friday,



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From: Butch Zaccheo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Fri, 02 Apr 2004 11:00:11 -0800

I¹ve been using Bank of America for about 2 years now. Have had some
problems recently but all seems to be ironed out now. If you are processing
via http post, Matt Robertson put together a custom tag that does the
trick... The tag is free and easy to setup. Bank of America¹s
Authorization/Settlement service is fairly inexpensive...

Let me know if you want to have a look at the tag...

BZaccheo

On 4/2/04 9:28 AM, "Burns, John D" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm looking into moving away from using Paypal for online payment
> processing into something more customizable and something I can build
> straight into my sites.  I have used Authorize.net in the past for a
> previous employer and I like the flexibility of it.  I'm just curious if
> anyone has pointers for good places to go to get something set up for
> processing credit cards (and possibly checks as well).  I'm looking for
> lowest costs (obviously) and just some kind of interface via HTTP posts,
> web services or anything like that.  Any ideas?
> 
>  
> John Burns
> 
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Re: Force image refresh

2004-04-02 Thread Stan Winchester
Here is the code. 


function randString(ct){
 var i=1;
 var randStr="";
 var randNum="";
 var useList="";

 for(i=1;i LTE ct;i=i+1){  
   randNum=RandRange(1,10);
   useList="0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9"; 
   randStr="#randStr##ListGetAt(useList,randNum)#";
 }
 return randStr;
}
if ( NOT IsDefined('message') ) {message = "";}
if ( IsDefined('form.authorization') 
 AND IsDefined('session.authorization') ) {
  if ( compare(form.authorization,session.authorization) EQ 0 ) {
    message = "we have a match!";
    writeOutput("we have a match!");
  }else{
    message = "sorry, test failed";
    writeOutput("sorry");
  }
}


  




  thisPath = ExpandPath("*.*");
  thisDirectory = GetDirectoryFromPath(thisPath);
  image = thisDirectory & "createimage.gif";
  newimage = thisDirectory & "newimage.gif";
  theText = randString(4);
  session.authorization = theText;




			ACTION="">
  TEXT="#theText#"
  OUTPUT="#newimage#"
  FONT="GIANT"
  X="8"
  Y="2">

 
 
 





	Test




reload page


#message#
#theText#









>can you show the code? 
>
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>From: Stan Winchester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:24 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Re: Force image refresh
>
>yes, I am using cflocation 
>image.
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RE: desktop application

2004-04-02 Thread Burns, John D
Actually, although I found my solution in SharedObjects, I did find an
example online that will let you write to a text file straight through
Flash.  It uses the following line to write the file:

 fscommand("writeToDisk", textBox);

It says it only works on Windows, so I'm assuming the "writetodisk"
command is something that only is supposed in the windows version of
flash.  Just thought I'd share.

John

-Original Message-
From: Darron J. Schall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 4:05 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: desktop application

> No, I understand how to get from XML to the DB, but if the Flash file 
> is running directly on a client machine (CF not installed and no 
> internet
> connection) how do I get Flash to write the input to a text or xml 
> file for upload later?

You can't get Flash to save a .txt file on the client on it's own.  To
do that, you'll need a 3rd party projector creator (Something SWF
Studio, Flash Jester, or ScreenWeaver).  ScreenWeaver is my
projector-creator of choice.

Then, each projector creator offers an ActionScript API to enable some
"advanced" features like writing to a text file.  In ScreenWeaver, you
could do something like this:

var fileName = "something.txt"
var contents = "Hey, this is what should be placed in the file"; var
bAppend = false; // don't append if the file already exists

function onFileSave(success) {
    if (success) {
// file saved ok
    } else {
// file could not be saved
    }
}

swFile.saveString(fileName, contents, bAppend, onFileSave);

The other option, if you don't want to go the 3rd party route, is to
uses Shared Objects in Flash (requires Flash MX).  You can do this
natively in Flash, but it won't create a text file.. it creates a binary
file that you can read in later.

Shared Objects look like this:

myData = SharedObject.getLocal("someData");
if (myData.data.content.length) {
    // content stored.. we can retrieve the value by referencing:
myData.data.content
}

// set some data
myData.data.content = "This is some text to save for later";
myData.flush();  // write the contents immediately

Good luck..

-d
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Re: SOLVED: desktop application

2004-04-02 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Good stuff...wasn't sure if ya new that part of Flashlovely ;-)

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
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Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Burns, John D 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 1:26 PM
  Subject: RE: SOLVED: desktop application

  That's the easy part.  I can build a flash app that checks to see if
  it's connected and if so use remoting or web services to put the data
  from the SharedObject into the database and then clear out the
  SharedObject.

  John 

  -Original Message-
  From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 3:51 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: SOLVED: desktop application

  The SOs will not solve you "phone home" issue though ;-)

  Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
  VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
  Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
  t. 250.920.8830
  e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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    - Original Message -
    From: Burns, John D
    To: CF-Talk
    Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:48 PM
    Subject: SOLVED: desktop application

    Adam's suggestion was perfect.  Flash SharedObject in MX does exactly
    what I needed.  Thanks to everyone who chimed in.

    John Burns 

    -Original Message-
    From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 3:31 PM
    To: CF-Talk
    Subject: Re: desktop application

    JB,

    Just store everything in the shared objects (flash cookies) and do a
    sync when the compuetr is online via remoting or xml.

    -adam

    > -Original Message-
    > From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    > Sent: Friday, April 2, 2004 08:27 PM
    > To: 'CF-Talk'
    > Subject: RE: desktop application
    >
    > Ok, but how do I actually write to that xml file?  I know flash can
    > read, but is there a method for writing to an xml file?
    >
    > John Burns
    >
    > -Original Message-
    > From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 3:04 PM
    > To: CF-Talk
    > Subject: Re: desktop application
    >
    > Yep you could build a standalone Flash app that runs as a projector
    > (.exe file on computer in question).  The app could store the
    > registrations in an XML filelater you can suck the data out of
  the

    > XML file and stuff it in the DB
    >
    > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
    > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group
    > Inc.
    > t. 250.920.8830
    > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    >
    > -
    > Macromedia Associate Partner
    > www.macromedia.com
    > -
    > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder & Director
    > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
    >   - Original Message -
    >   From: Burns, John D
    >   To: CF-Talk
    >   Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:58 AM
    >   Subject: SOT: desktop application
    >
    > 
    >   I have a question about what the best practice would be for
  creating
    a
    >   desktop application.  I do websites for some different bands, and
    they
    >   all have an e-mail sign-up on their website.  Most of them also
  have
    >   some kind of a paper sign-up at concerts for people to sign up for
    the
    >   email list.  I was considering building an app that would run on a
    >   desktop to allow people at concerts to enter their email address
  and
    >   write it to a text or xml file that could then be uploaded to the
    >   webserver and parsed into the database.
    >
    > 
    >   My question is what would be the best method to do this?  I was 
    > thinking
    >   of doing the front end in Flash but I'm not sure how to write to a

    > file
    >   from there.  In theory, this app would need to work on a mac and a
    pc.
    >   Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
    >
    > 
    >   John Burns
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
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Re: Popularity of Cold Fusion

2004-04-02 Thread Claude Schneegans
>>That's a pretty bold statement...

A definitely more accurate one would be "Linux and Mac servers are not as popular for hackers as Windows servers" ;-)

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RE: SOLVED: desktop application

2004-04-02 Thread Burns, John D
That's the easy part.  I can build a flash app that checks to see if
it's connected and if so use remoting or web services to put the data
from the SharedObject into the database and then clear out the
SharedObject.

John 

-Original Message-
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 3:51 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SOLVED: desktop application

The SOs will not solve you "phone home" issue though ;-)

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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www.macromedia.com
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www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
  - Original Message -
  From: Burns, John D
  To: CF-Talk
  Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:48 PM
  Subject: SOLVED: desktop application

  Adam's suggestion was perfect.  Flash SharedObject in MX does exactly
  what I needed.  Thanks to everyone who chimed in.

  John Burns 

  -Original Message-
  From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 3:31 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: desktop application

  JB,

  Just store everything in the shared objects (flash cookies) and do a
  sync when the compuetr is online via remoting or xml.

  -adam

  > -Original Message-
  > From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  > Sent: Friday, April 2, 2004 08:27 PM
  > To: 'CF-Talk'
  > Subject: RE: desktop application
  >
  > Ok, but how do I actually write to that xml file?  I know flash can
  > read, but is there a method for writing to an xml file?
  >
  > John Burns
  >
  > -Original Message-
  > From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 3:04 PM
  > To: CF-Talk
  > Subject: Re: desktop application
  >
  > Yep you could build a standalone Flash app that runs as a projector
  > (.exe file on computer in question).  The app could store the
  > registrations in an XML filelater you can suck the data out of
the

  > XML file and stuff it in the DB
  >
  > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
  > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group
  > Inc.
  > t. 250.920.8830
  > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >
  > -
  > Macromedia Associate Partner
  > www.macromedia.com
  > -
  > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder & Director
  > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
  >   - Original Message -
  >   From: Burns, John D
  >   To: CF-Talk
  >   Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:58 AM
  >   Subject: SOT: desktop application
  >
  > 
  >   I have a question about what the best practice would be for
creating
  a
  >   desktop application.  I do websites for some different bands, and
  they
  >   all have an e-mail sign-up on their website.  Most of them also
have
  >   some kind of a paper sign-up at concerts for people to sign up for
  the
  >   email list.  I was considering building an app that would run on a
  >   desktop to allow people at concerts to enter their email address
and
  >   write it to a text or xml file that could then be uploaded to the
  >   webserver and parsed into the database.
  >
  > 
  >   My question is what would be the best method to do this?  I was 
  > thinking
  >   of doing the front end in Flash but I'm not sure how to write to a

  > file
  >   from there.  In theory, this app would need to work on a mac and a
  pc.
  >   Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
  >
  > 
  >   John Burns
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
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jintegra.jar contains Trojans???

2004-04-02 Thread Stephen Hait
My virus checker, Kaspersky AVPRo, recently started flagging 
d:\CFusionMX\lib\jintegra.jar as containing 
TrojanDownloader.Java.OpenConneciton.j which apparently is a 
virus or a trojan. 

Since this .jar file was apparently installed as part of CFMX 6.1 it 
seems unlikely that there's actually a problem but I was 
wondering if anyone might be able to shed some light on this.

Thanks,
Stephen
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Re: desktop application

2004-04-02 Thread Dick Applebaum
ahhh ... if only we had CFAnywhere. :)

On Apr 2, 2004, at 12:16 PM, Steve Nelson wrote:

> I don't have a lot of experience with this tool, but you could try 
> Coral Web
>  Builder. http://www.pcaonline.com/coral/index.cfm it's basically a 
> stripped
>  down CFML on the desktop. Looks pretty powerful.
>
>  Steve Nelson
>
>_  
>
>  From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 2:58 PM
>  To: CF-Talk
>  Subject: SOT: desktop application
>
>  I have a question about what the best practice would be for creating a
>  desktop application.  I do websites for some different bands, and they
>  all have an e-mail sign-up on their website.  Most of them also have
>  some kind of a paper sign-up at concerts for people to sign up for the
>  email list.  I was considering building an app that would run on a
>  desktop to allow people at concerts to enter their email address and
>  write it to a text or xml file that could then be uploaded to the
>  webserver and parsed into the database.
>
>  My question is what would be the best method to do this?  I was 
> thinking
>  of doing the front end in Flash but I'm not sure how to write to a 
> file
>  from there.  In theory, this app would need to work on a mac and a pc.
>  Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
>
>  John Burns
>
>_
>
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Re: OT: Flash pop-up help

2004-04-02 Thread Bryan Stevenson
I did get that a while ago...thanks ;-)

It's all working now with a call to an external JS function to open the windowthe annoying alert is a thing of the past.

Cheers

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Ben Doom 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 1:02 PM
  Subject: Re: OT: Flash pop-up help

  I posted this earlier, but I think it got lost when my mailserver went down.

  Try calling
  _javascript_:parent.function()
  instead of
  _javascript_:function()

  I vaguely remember having to do something like that.  Unfortunately, I 
  was working with a Flash developer who has all the FLA files, so I can't 
  just go check.

  --Ben

  Bryan Stevenson wrote:

  > Hey Ben,
  > 
  > Can you fire up a sample getURL() call with window.open and some window 
  > properties set?  I must just be missing some syntaxI tried several 
  > approaches but something is off ;-)
  > 
  > Cheers
  > 
  > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
  > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
  > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
  > t. 250.920.8830
  > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  > 
  > -
  > Macromedia Associate Partner
  > www.macromedia.com
  > -
  > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
  > Founder & Director
  > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
  >   - Original Message -
  >   From: Ben Doom
  >   To: CF-Talk
  >   Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 10:34 AM
  >   Subject: Re: OT: Flash pop-up help
  > 
  >   You can use the getURL() function to call _javascript_ in the enclosing
  >   page, just like you would out of an anchor tag.
  > 
  >   --Ben
  > 
  >   Bryan Stevenson wrote:
  > 
  >   > Hey All,
  >   >
  >   > I want to open a window from in side a Flash movie using 
  > _javascript_.  So far
  >   > all I've been able to do is open the window using the getURL() 
  > function with
  >   > a target of "_blank".  This gets me the window I want, but when I use
  >   > "window.close();" in the pop-up window to allow users to close it, that
  >   > annoying "The web page you are viewing is trying to close this 
  > window.  Do
  >   > you want to close this window?" alert window.
  >   >
  >   > My assumption is that because the pop-up was not opened via 
  > _javascript_ that
  >   > it whines when closed with _javascript_.  All my other pop-ups that 
  > are popped
  >   > from a regular web page (not from inside Flash) using _javascript_ do 
  > not show
  >   > this alert when being closed via _javascript_.  Of course it may also have
  >   > something to do with the pop-up being launched from inside Flash.
  >   >
  >   > Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!!
  >   >
  >   > Cheers
  >   >
  >   > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
  >   > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
  >   > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
  >   > t. 250.920.8830
  >   > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >   >
  >   > -
  >   > Macromedia Associate Partner
  >   > www.macromedia.com
  >   > -
  >   > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
  >   > Founder & Director
  >   > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
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Re: desktop application

2004-04-02 Thread Darron J. Schall
> No, I understand how to get from XML to the DB, but if the Flash file is
> running directly on a client machine (CF not installed and no internet
> connection) how do I get Flash to write the input to a text or xml file
> for upload later?

You can't get Flash to save a .txt file on the client on it's own.  To do
that, you'll need a 3rd party projector creator (Something SWF Studio, Flash
Jester, or ScreenWeaver).  ScreenWeaver is my projector-creator of choice.

Then, each projector creator offers an ActionScript API to enable some
"advanced" features like writing to a text file.  In ScreenWeaver, you could
do something like this:

var fileName = "something.txt"
var contents = "Hey, this is what should be placed in the file";
var bAppend = false; // don't append if the file already exists

function onFileSave(success) {
    if (success) {
// file saved ok
    } else {
// file could not be saved
    }
}

swFile.saveString(fileName, contents, bAppend, onFileSave);

The other option, if you don't want to go the 3rd party route, is to uses
Shared Objects in Flash (requires Flash MX).  You can do this natively in
Flash, but it won't create a text file.. it creates a binary file that you
can read in later.

Shared Objects look like this:

myData = SharedObject.getLocal("someData");
if (myData.data.content.length) {
    // content stored.. we can retrieve the value by referencing:
myData.data.content
}

// set some data
myData.data.content = "This is some text to save for later";
myData.flush();  // write the contents immediately

Good luck..

-d
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Re: OT: Flash pop-up help

2004-04-02 Thread Ben Doom
I posted this earlier, but I think it got lost when my mailserver went down.

Try calling
_javascript_:parent.function()
instead of
_javascript_:function()

I vaguely remember having to do something like that.  Unfortunately, I 
was working with a Flash developer who has all the FLA files, so I can't 
just go check.

--Ben

Bryan Stevenson wrote:

> Hey Ben,
> 
> Can you fire up a sample getURL() call with window.open and some window 
> properties set?  I must just be missing some syntaxI tried several 
> approaches but something is off ;-)
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> t. 250.920.8830
> e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> -
> Macromedia Associate Partner
> www.macromedia.com
> -
> Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
> Founder & Director
> www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Ben Doom
>   To: CF-Talk
>   Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 10:34 AM
>   Subject: Re: OT: Flash pop-up help
> 
>   You can use the getURL() function to call _javascript_ in the enclosing
>   page, just like you would out of an anchor tag.
> 
>   --Ben
> 
>   Bryan Stevenson wrote:
> 
>   > Hey All,
>   >
>   > I want to open a window from in side a Flash movie using 
> _javascript_.  So far
>   > all I've been able to do is open the window using the getURL() 
> function with
>   > a target of "_blank".  This gets me the window I want, but when I use
>   > "window.close();" in the pop-up window to allow users to close it, that
>   > annoying "The web page you are viewing is trying to close this 
> window.  Do
>   > you want to close this window?" alert window.
>   >
>   > My assumption is that because the pop-up was not opened via 
> _javascript_ that
>   > it whines when closed with _javascript_.  All my other pop-ups that 
> are popped
>   > from a regular web page (not from inside Flash) using _javascript_ do 
> not show
>   > this alert when being closed via _javascript_.  Of course it may also have
>   > something to do with the pop-up being launched from inside Flash.
>   >
>   > Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!!
>   >
>   > Cheers
>   >
>   > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
>   > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
>   > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
>   > t. 250.920.8830
>   > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   >
>   > -
>   > Macromedia Associate Partner
>   > www.macromedia.com
>   > -
>   > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
>   > Founder & Director
>   > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
>   >
>
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RE: Of Flash, Flex and Accessibility

2004-04-02 Thread Ryan Kime
Supposedly, the Movie symbols in Flash are screen readable, but not graphic
symbols. Here is Macromedia's accessibility section which includes
information about each product's capabilities and developer tools to help
meet 508 compliancy:

 
http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/accessibility/
 

 
HTH,

 
Ryan Kime

-Original Message-
From: Morgan Senkal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 10:37 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Of Flash, Flex and Accessibility

I have seen lots of claims by MM that the Flash player (version?) as well as
Flex and even CFMX all have 'built-in' accessibility support.  My question
is, exactly how accessible is the Flash player, and by extension Flex?  What
tools are included that enable accessibility?  As a government agency, we
are mandated by law to be 508 compliant, which at this time we are.  If we
were ever to consider any sort of move towards an RIA and implementing Flash
and/or Flex (however unlikely at this time) these questions must be
answered. 
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Re: desktop application

2004-04-02 Thread Adrocknaphobia
when you say xml file... you mean xml structure in a shared object through right? or is there some big security flaw in flash that allows it to write files to the HD outside of the shared objects?

-adam

> -Original Message-
> From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, April 2, 2004 08:49 PM
> To: 'CF-Talk'
> Subject: Re: desktop application
> 
> The client machine will HAVE TO connect to the net for this to happen.  It can detect the connection...when it does it can call a remote web service to "suck the data out of the XML file and stuff it in the DB" as I so eloquently put it ;-)
> 
> Of course any solution with remote unconnected clients will eventually require a connection to "phone home" to get the data
> 
> Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> t. 250.920.8830
> e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> -
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> Founder & Director
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>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Burns, John D 
>   To: CF-Talk 
>   Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:39 PM
>   Subject: RE: desktop application
> 
> 
>   No, I understand how to get from XML to the DB, but if the Flash file is
>   running directly on a client machine (CF not installed and no internet
>   connection) how do I get Flash to write the input to a text or xml file
>   for upload later?
> 
>   John 
> 
>   -Original Message-
>   From: Brook Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>   Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 3:41 PM
>   To: CF-Talk
>   Subject: Re: desktop application
> 
>   "suck the data out of the XML file and stuff it in the DB"
> 
>   Bryan, your getting way too technical man. I'm having trouble following
>   all 
>   of this high tech terminology!    ;)
> 
>   Brook
> 
>   At 12:04 PM 4/2/2004, you wrote:
> 
>   >Yep you could build a standalone Flash app that runs as a projector 
>   >(.exe file on computer in question).  The app could store the 
>   >registrations in an XML filelater you can suck the data out of the 
>   >XML file and stuff it in the DB
>   >
>   >Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
>   >VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group 
>   >Inc.
>   >t. 250.920.8830
>   >e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   >
>   >-
>   >Macromedia Associate Partner
>   >www.macromedia.com
>   >-
>   >Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder & Director 
>   >www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
>   >   - Original Message -
>   >   From: Burns, John D
>   >   To: CF-Talk
>   >   Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:58 AM
>   >   Subject: SOT: desktop application
>   >
>   >   I have a question about what the best practice would be for creating
>   a
>   >   desktop application.  I do websites for some different bands, and
>   they
>   >   all have an e-mail sign-up on their website.  Most of them also have
>   >   some kind of a paper sign-up at concerts for people to sign up for
>   the
>   >   email list.  I was considering building an app that would run on a
>   >   desktop to allow people at concerts to enter their email address and
>   >   write it to a text or xml file that could then be uploaded to the
>   >   webserver and parsed into the database.
>   >
>   >   My question is what would be the best method to do this?  I was
>   thinking
>   >   of doing the front end in Flash but I'm not sure how to write to a
>   file
>   >   from there.  In theory, this app would need to work on a mac and a
>   pc.
>   >   Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
>   >
>   >   John Burns
>   >
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Re: OT: Aqua Data Studio question

2004-04-02 Thread jeff
- First, make sure you have the latest build:

http://www.aquafold.com/download/datastudio_3_5_19.jar

- Copy this jar over the datastudio.jar in the Aqua Data Studio\lib 
directory.

- Start ADS.

- Right-click on the server you want to filter; select Properties.
- Click on the Filter tab.
- Enter specifications to filter databases and/or objects
  Example:  If your db is named "myDB", you can select Exclude All 
from the dropdown, then enter myDB in the text box.
- Click OK

That's it.

- Jeff Peters


On 2 Apr 2004 at 9:23, Pete Ruckelshaus - CFList wrote:

Date sent:  	Fri, 02 Apr 2004 09:23:28 -0500
From:   	Pete Ruckelshaus - CFList <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Send reply to:  	[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:	OT: Aqua Data Studio question
To: 	CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Someone here suggested using Aqua Data Studio instead of (or in addition
> to) SQL Server Enterprise Manager.  I downloaded it and have been using
> it for a couple of days, and it's great.  I still have to use Enterprise
> Manager for some things, but it's a nice tool.  I love the autocomplete
> and the debugging, much closer to what I was used to with the tools I
> used when working with Oracle.
> 
> One thing that was mentioned was the ability to "filter out" other
> databases, as in a shared hosting environment.  I can figure out how to
> do that, can someone tell me what I need to do?  Any other tips for
> using Aquia Data Studio?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Pete
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Force image refresh

2004-04-02 Thread Tony Weeg
can you show the code? 

-Original Message-
From: Stan Winchester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:24 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Force image refresh

yes, I am using cflocation 
>are you using cflocation to get them back to the page after an incorrect?
>tony
>-Original Message-
>From: Stan Winchester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:50 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Force image refresh
>I'm trying to force an image to refresh with the following scenario:
> 
>1.  On a form page:
>  a.  Create and display an image showing a randomly generated 4-digit 
>number.
>  b.  Set a session variable based on the randomly generated number.
>  c.  Text input field to enter randomly generated number as shown in
image.
>  d.  Submit to action page.
>2.  On action page:
>  a.  Test passed form field with session variable
>    i.  On pass, then continue processing stuff
>    ii. On fail, send back to form and generate new randomly generated 
>4-digit number, session variable, & image, and let user resubmit.
> 
>The problem is the image will not refresh. I am using the following 
>code on the form page:
> 
> 
>VALUE="no-cache"> 
> 
>If I do a ctrl-f5 in IE, then the proper image is displayed. So I guess 
>what I need to do is emulate the equivalent ctrl-f5.
> 
>Any ideas what I might do?
> 
>See a working example at: http://www.aftershockweb.com/test/
>You will see the text representing the randomly generated number, the 
>test form, and the image with the randomly generated number. (You will 
>need to do the test at least twice to see the problem)
> 
>FYI: The purpose of this test is to verify a user came from a certain 
>page to protect from spammer robots.
> 
>Thank you,
>Stan Winchester
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Re: desktop application

2004-04-02 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Not AFAIK

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  - Original Message - 
  From: brobborb 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:45 PM
  Subject: Re: desktop application

  Wait, are these computers connected to the server, or not?

    - Original Message - 
    From: Burns, John D 
    To: CF-Talk 
    Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 2:28 PM
    Subject: RE: desktop application

    I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but then I would have no way of
    writing the text file, unless I had a scripting language installed (like
    CF) but I want to make this very user friendly and as close to
    dummy-proof as possible.

    John Burns 

    -Original Message-
    From: brobborb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
    Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 3:03 PM
    To: CF-Talk
    Subject: Re: desktop application

    why not just design it in IE, have it fill up the whole screen, use some
    flash elements to make it looks flashy or nice or whatever, but use
    regular ol' HTML forms

  - Original Message -
  From: Burns, John D
  To: CF-Talk
  Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 1:58 PM
  Subject: SOT: desktop application

  I have a question about what the best practice would be for creating a
  desktop application.  I do websites for some different bands, and they
  all have an e-mail sign-up on their website.  Most of them also have
  some kind of a paper sign-up at concerts for people to sign up for the
  email list.  I was considering building an app that would run on a
  desktop to allow people at concerts to enter their email address and
  write it to a text or xml file that could then be uploaded to the
  webserver and parsed into the database.

  My question is what would be the best method to do this?  I was
    thinking
  of doing the front end in Flash but I'm not sure how to write to a
    file
  from there.  In theory, this app would need to work on a mac and a pc.
  Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

  John Burns
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Re: SOLVED: desktop application

2004-04-02 Thread Bryan Stevenson
The SOs will not solve you "phone home" issue though ;-)

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Burns, John D 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:48 PM
  Subject: SOLVED: desktop application

  Adam's suggestion was perfect.  Flash SharedObject in MX does exactly
  what I needed.  Thanks to everyone who chimed in.

  John Burns 

  -Original Message-
  From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 3:31 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: desktop application

  JB,

  Just store everything in the shared objects (flash cookies) and do a
  sync when the compuetr is online via remoting or xml.

  -adam

  > -Original Message-
  > From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  > Sent: Friday, April 2, 2004 08:27 PM
  > To: 'CF-Talk'
  > Subject: RE: desktop application
  > 
  > Ok, but how do I actually write to that xml file?  I know flash can 
  > read, but is there a method for writing to an xml file?
  > 
  > John Burns
  > 
  > -Original Message-
  > From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 3:04 PM
  > To: CF-Talk
  > Subject: Re: desktop application
  > 
  > Yep you could build a standalone Flash app that runs as a projector 
  > (.exe file on computer in question).  The app could store the 
  > registrations in an XML filelater you can suck the data out of the

  > XML file and stuff it in the DB
  > 
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  >   - Original Message -
  >   From: Burns, John D
  >   To: CF-Talk
  >   Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:58 AM
  >   Subject: SOT: desktop application
  > 
  > 
  >   I have a question about what the best practice would be for creating
  a
  >   desktop application.  I do websites for some different bands, and
  they
  >   all have an e-mail sign-up on their website.  Most of them also have
  >   some kind of a paper sign-up at concerts for people to sign up for
  the
  >   email list.  I was considering building an app that would run on a
  >   desktop to allow people at concerts to enter their email address and
  >   write it to a text or xml file that could then be uploaded to the
  >   webserver and parsed into the database.
  > 
  > 
  >   My question is what would be the best method to do this?  I was 
  > thinking
  >   of doing the front end in Flash but I'm not sure how to write to a 
  > file
  >   from there.  In theory, this app would need to work on a mac and a
  pc.
  >   Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
  > 
  > 
  >   John Burns
  > 
  > 
  > 
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Re: desktop application

2004-04-02 Thread Bryan Stevenson
The client machine will HAVE TO connect to the net for this to happen.  It can detect the connection...when it does it can call a remote web service to "suck the data out of the XML file and stuff it in the DB" as I so eloquently put it ;-)

Of course any solution with remote unconnected clients will eventually require a connection to "phone home" to get the data

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  From: Burns, John D 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:39 PM
  Subject: RE: desktop application

  No, I understand how to get from XML to the DB, but if the Flash file is
  running directly on a client machine (CF not installed and no internet
  connection) how do I get Flash to write the input to a text or xml file
  for upload later?

  John 

  -Original Message-
  From: Brook Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 3:41 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: desktop application

  "suck the data out of the XML file and stuff it in the DB"

  Bryan, your getting way too technical man. I'm having trouble following
  all 
  of this high tech terminology!    ;)

  Brook

  At 12:04 PM 4/2/2004, you wrote:

  >Yep you could build a standalone Flash app that runs as a projector 
  >(.exe file on computer in question).  The app could store the 
  >registrations in an XML filelater you can suck the data out of the 
  >XML file and stuff it in the DB
  >
  >Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
  >VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group 
  >Inc.
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  >e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  >   - Original Message -
  >   From: Burns, John D
  >   To: CF-Talk
  >   Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:58 AM
  >   Subject: SOT: desktop application
  >
  >   I have a question about what the best practice would be for creating
  a
  >   desktop application.  I do websites for some different bands, and
  they
  >   all have an e-mail sign-up on their website.  Most of them also have
  >   some kind of a paper sign-up at concerts for people to sign up for
  the
  >   email list.  I was considering building an app that would run on a
  >   desktop to allow people at concerts to enter their email address and
  >   write it to a text or xml file that could then be uploaded to the
  >   webserver and parsed into the database.
  >
  >   My question is what would be the best method to do this?  I was
  thinking
  >   of doing the front end in Flash but I'm not sure how to write to a
  file
  >   from there.  In theory, this app would need to work on a mac and a
  pc.
  >   Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
  >
  >   John Burns
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Re: desktop application

2004-04-02 Thread brobborb
Wait, are these computers connected to the server, or not?

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  From: Burns, John D 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 2:28 PM
  Subject: RE: desktop application

  I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but then I would have no way of
  writing the text file, unless I had a scripting language installed (like
  CF) but I want to make this very user friendly and as close to
  dummy-proof as possible.

  John Burns 

  -Original Message-
  From: brobborb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 3:03 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: desktop application

  why not just design it in IE, have it fill up the whole screen, use some
  flash elements to make it looks flashy or nice or whatever, but use
  regular ol' HTML forms

    - Original Message -
    From: Burns, John D
    To: CF-Talk
    Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 1:58 PM
    Subject: SOT: desktop application

    I have a question about what the best practice would be for creating a
    desktop application.  I do websites for some different bands, and they
    all have an e-mail sign-up on their website.  Most of them also have
    some kind of a paper sign-up at concerts for people to sign up for the
    email list.  I was considering building an app that would run on a
    desktop to allow people at concerts to enter their email address and
    write it to a text or xml file that could then be uploaded to the
    webserver and parsed into the database.

    My question is what would be the best method to do this?  I was
  thinking
    of doing the front end in Flash but I'm not sure how to write to a
  file
    from there.  In theory, this app would need to work on a mac and a pc.
    Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

    John Burns
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SOLVED: desktop application

2004-04-02 Thread Burns, John D
Adam's suggestion was perfect.  Flash SharedObject in MX does exactly
what I needed.  Thanks to everyone who chimed in.

John Burns 

-Original Message-
From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 3:31 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: desktop application

JB,

Just store everything in the shared objects (flash cookies) and do a
sync when the compuetr is online via remoting or xml.

-adam

> -Original Message-
> From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, April 2, 2004 08:27 PM
> To: 'CF-Talk'
> Subject: RE: desktop application
> 
> Ok, but how do I actually write to that xml file?  I know flash can 
> read, but is there a method for writing to an xml file?
> 
> John Burns
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 3:04 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: desktop application
> 
> Yep you could build a standalone Flash app that runs as a projector 
> (.exe file on computer in question).  The app could store the 
> registrations in an XML filelater you can suck the data out of the

> XML file and stuff it in the DB
> 
> Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group 
> Inc.
> t. 250.920.8830
> e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
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> www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Burns, John D
>   To: CF-Talk
>   Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:58 AM
>   Subject: SOT: desktop application
> 
> 
>   I have a question about what the best practice would be for creating
a
>   desktop application.  I do websites for some different bands, and
they
>   all have an e-mail sign-up on their website.  Most of them also have
>   some kind of a paper sign-up at concerts for people to sign up for
the
>   email list.  I was considering building an app that would run on a
>   desktop to allow people at concerts to enter their email address and
>   write it to a text or xml file that could then be uploaded to the
>   webserver and parsed into the database.
> 
> 
>   My question is what would be the best method to do this?  I was 
> thinking
>   of doing the front end in Flash but I'm not sure how to write to a 
> file
>   from there.  In theory, this app would need to work on a mac and a
pc.
>   Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> 
>   John Burns
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
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Re: desktop application

2004-04-02 Thread Bryan Stevenson
LOLit's Friday and a weekend of freestyle jet skiing awaits...what can I say ;-)

Cheers

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  From: Brook Davies 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:41 PM
  Subject: Re: desktop application

  "suck the data out of the XML file and stuff it in the DB"

  Bryan, your getting way too technical man. I'm having trouble following all 
  of this high tech terminology!    ;)

  Brook

  At 12:04 PM 4/2/2004, you wrote:

  >Yep you could build a standalone Flash app that runs as a projector (.exe 
  >file on computer in question).  The app could store the registrations in 
  >an XML filelater you can suck the data out of the XML file and stuff 
  >it in the DB
  >
  >Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
  >VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
  >Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
  >t. 250.920.8830
  >e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  >   - Original Message -
  >   From: Burns, John D
  >   To: CF-Talk
  >   Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:58 AM
  >   Subject: SOT: desktop application
  >
  >   I have a question about what the best practice would be for creating a
  >   desktop application.  I do websites for some different bands, and they
  >   all have an e-mail sign-up on their website.  Most of them also have
  >   some kind of a paper sign-up at concerts for people to sign up for the
  >   email list.  I was considering building an app that would run on a
  >   desktop to allow people at concerts to enter their email address and
  >   write it to a text or xml file that could then be uploaded to the
  >   webserver and parsed into the database.
  >
  >   My question is what would be the best method to do this?  I was thinking
  >   of doing the front end in Flash but I'm not sure how to write to a file
  >   from there.  In theory, this app would need to work on a mac and a pc.
  >   Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
  >
  >   John Burns
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Re: desktop application

2004-04-02 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Well you'd sign up for a decent Flash forumbuy a book...learn Flash and it's methods of writing to files without an application server ;-)

There is a definite learning curve here...and a couple of simple lines aren't gonna make it less painful ;-)

It's been a while since I playe with Flash MX...but I'm sure there are easier way...better components than when I played last.

You could also build  a client/server app with something like Sybase's PowerBuilderwould run off a local database..

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Burns, John D 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:27 PM
  Subject: RE: desktop application

  Ok, but how do I actually write to that xml file?  I know flash can
  read, but is there a method for writing to an xml file?

  John Burns 

  -Original Message-
  From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 3:04 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: desktop application

  Yep you could build a standalone Flash app that runs as a projector
  (.exe file on computer in question).  The app could store the
  registrations in an XML filelater you can suck the data out of the
  XML file and stuff it in the DB

  Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
  VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
  Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
  t. 250.920.8830
  e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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    - Original Message -
    From: Burns, John D
    To: CF-Talk
    Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:58 AM
    Subject: SOT: desktop application

    I have a question about what the best practice would be for creating a
    desktop application.  I do websites for some different bands, and they
    all have an e-mail sign-up on their website.  Most of them also have
    some kind of a paper sign-up at concerts for people to sign up for the
    email list.  I was considering building an app that would run on a
    desktop to allow people at concerts to enter their email address and
    write it to a text or xml file that could then be uploaded to the
    webserver and parsed into the database.

    My question is what would be the best method to do this?  I was
  thinking
    of doing the front end in Flash but I'm not sure how to write to a
  file
    from there.  In theory, this app would need to work on a mac and a pc.
    Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

    John Burns
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RE: desktop application

2004-04-02 Thread Burns, John D
No, I understand how to get from XML to the DB, but if the Flash file is
running directly on a client machine (CF not installed and no internet
connection) how do I get Flash to write the input to a text or xml file
for upload later?

John 

-Original Message-
From: Brook Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 3:41 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: desktop application

"suck the data out of the XML file and stuff it in the DB"

Bryan, your getting way too technical man. I'm having trouble following
all 
of this high tech terminology!    ;)

Brook

At 12:04 PM 4/2/2004, you wrote:

>Yep you could build a standalone Flash app that runs as a projector 
>(.exe file on computer in question).  The app could store the 
>registrations in an XML filelater you can suck the data out of the 
>XML file and stuff it in the DB
>
>Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
>VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group 
>Inc.
>t. 250.920.8830
>e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>-
>Macromedia Associate Partner
>www.macromedia.com
>-
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>www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Burns, John D
>   To: CF-Talk
>   Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:58 AM
>   Subject: SOT: desktop application
>
>   I have a question about what the best practice would be for creating
a
>   desktop application.  I do websites for some different bands, and
they
>   all have an e-mail sign-up on their website.  Most of them also have
>   some kind of a paper sign-up at concerts for people to sign up for
the
>   email list.  I was considering building an app that would run on a
>   desktop to allow people at concerts to enter their email address and
>   write it to a text or xml file that could then be uploaded to the
>   webserver and parsed into the database.
>
>   My question is what would be the best method to do this?  I was
thinking
>   of doing the front end in Flash but I'm not sure how to write to a
file
>   from there.  In theory, this app would need to work on a mac and a
pc.
>   Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
>
>   John Burns
>
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Re: What takes more server resources

2004-04-02 Thread Ubqtous
Jim,

On 4/2/2004 at 14:06, you wrote:

JL> Do querying two different databases from the same page use more
JL> resources and take longer that two querys of the same database? of
JL> is there no difference.

Probably depends on one or more of the following:

1. Does the application server cache the connection when the same
database is queried twice, or does it use two separate connections?

2. Are the databases local or remote? For remote, the quality of the
network connection would dictate how quick the results were returned.

3. What DBs are being used (MSSQL, MySQL, PostgreSQL, Access)?

4. The specs of the hardware running the DBs.

5. How well are the DBs and SQL statements optimized (e.g., column
indexes and join syntax, respectively)?

And so on and so forth :)

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Re: desktop application

2004-04-02 Thread Brook Davies
"suck the data out of the XML file and stuff it in the DB"

Bryan, your getting way too technical man. I'm having trouble following all 
of this high tech terminology!    ;)

Brook

At 12:04 PM 4/2/2004, you wrote:

>Yep you could build a standalone Flash app that runs as a projector (.exe 
>file on computer in question).  The app could store the registrations in 
>an XML filelater you can suck the data out of the XML file and stuff 
>it in the DB
>
>Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
>VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
>Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
>t. 250.920.8830
>e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>-
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>   - Original Message -
>   From: Burns, John D
>   To: CF-Talk
>   Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:58 AM
>   Subject: SOT: desktop application
>
>   I have a question about what the best practice would be for creating a
>   desktop application.  I do websites for some different bands, and they
>   all have an e-mail sign-up on their website.  Most of them also have
>   some kind of a paper sign-up at concerts for people to sign up for the
>   email list.  I was considering building an app that would run on a
>   desktop to allow people at concerts to enter their email address and
>   write it to a text or xml file that could then be uploaded to the
>   webserver and parsed into the database.
>
>   My question is what would be the best method to do this?  I was thinking
>   of doing the front end in Flash but I'm not sure how to write to a file
>   from there.  In theory, this app would need to work on a mac and a pc.
>   Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
>
>   John Burns
>
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Re: desktop application

2004-04-02 Thread Adrocknaphobia
JB,

Just store everything in the shared objects (flash cookies) and do a sync when the compuetr is online via remoting or xml.

-adam

> -Original Message-
> From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, April 2, 2004 08:27 PM
> To: 'CF-Talk'
> Subject: RE: desktop application
> 
> Ok, but how do I actually write to that xml file?  I know flash can
> read, but is there a method for writing to an xml file?
> 
> John Burns 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 3:04 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: desktop application
> 
> Yep you could build a standalone Flash app that runs as a projector
> (.exe file on computer in question).  The app could store the
> registrations in an XML filelater you can suck the data out of the
> XML file and stuff it in the DB
> 
> Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> t. 250.920.8830
> e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
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>   - Original Message -
>   From: Burns, John D
>   To: CF-Talk
>   Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:58 AM
>   Subject: SOT: desktop application
> 
> 
>   I have a question about what the best practice would be for creating a
>   desktop application.  I do websites for some different bands, and they
>   all have an e-mail sign-up on their website.  Most of them also have
>   some kind of a paper sign-up at concerts for people to sign up for the
>   email list.  I was considering building an app that would run on a
>   desktop to allow people at concerts to enter their email address and
>   write it to a text or xml file that could then be uploaded to the
>   webserver and parsed into the database.
> 
> 
>   My question is what would be the best method to do this?  I was
> thinking
>   of doing the front end in Flash but I'm not sure how to write to a
> file
>   from there.  In theory, this app would need to work on a mac and a pc.
>   Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> 
>   John Burns
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: desktop application

2004-04-02 Thread Burns, John D
I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but then I would have no way of
writing the text file, unless I had a scripting language installed (like
CF) but I want to make this very user friendly and as close to
dummy-proof as possible.

John Burns 

-Original Message-
From: brobborb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 3:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: desktop application

why not just design it in IE, have it fill up the whole screen, use some
flash elements to make it looks flashy or nice or whatever, but use
regular ol' HTML forms

  - Original Message -
  From: Burns, John D
  To: CF-Talk
  Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 1:58 PM
  Subject: SOT: desktop application

  I have a question about what the best practice would be for creating a
  desktop application.  I do websites for some different bands, and they
  all have an e-mail sign-up on their website.  Most of them also have
  some kind of a paper sign-up at concerts for people to sign up for the
  email list.  I was considering building an app that would run on a
  desktop to allow people at concerts to enter their email address and
  write it to a text or xml file that could then be uploaded to the
  webserver and parsed into the database.

  My question is what would be the best method to do this?  I was
thinking
  of doing the front end in Flash but I'm not sure how to write to a
file
  from there.  In theory, this app would need to work on a mac and a pc.
  Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

  John Burns
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RE: desktop application

2004-04-02 Thread Burns, John D
Ok, but how do I actually write to that xml file?  I know flash can
read, but is there a method for writing to an xml file?

John Burns 

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From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 3:04 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: desktop application

Yep you could build a standalone Flash app that runs as a projector
(.exe file on computer in question).  The app could store the
registrations in an XML filelater you can suck the data out of the
XML file and stuff it in the DB

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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  From: Burns, John D
  To: CF-Talk
  Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:58 AM
  Subject: SOT: desktop application

  I have a question about what the best practice would be for creating a
  desktop application.  I do websites for some different bands, and they
  all have an e-mail sign-up on their website.  Most of them also have
  some kind of a paper sign-up at concerts for people to sign up for the
  email list.  I was considering building an app that would run on a
  desktop to allow people at concerts to enter their email address and
  write it to a text or xml file that could then be uploaded to the
  webserver and parsed into the database.

  My question is what would be the best method to do this?  I was
thinking
  of doing the front end in Flash but I'm not sure how to write to a
file
  from there.  In theory, this app would need to work on a mac and a pc.
  Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

  John Burns
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repost of earlier question on cfhttp -- 2nd post

2004-04-02 Thread Ray Champagne
I am going to try to simplify this up so that I might be able to get a 
better response this time:

I am using cfhttp to create a static html page from a dynamic search 
results page.  In the search results page I am using a cfinclude.  Whenever 
I run the cfhttp page, the page that it is http'ing gets changed.  The code 
that is included using cfhttp is no longer a cfinclude, it replaces 
cfinclude with the code that is in the cfinclude file.

I have been researching this all day and cannot figure out why...any 
help?  Is there a tag that I can surround the cfincluded stuff with to 
suppress the replacement?

Anyone...anyone...Beuller?

Ray

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RE: desktop application

2004-04-02 Thread Steve Nelson
I don't have a lot of experience with this tool, but you could try Coral Web
Builder. http://www.pcaonline.com/coral/index.cfm it's basically a stripped
down CFML on the desktop. Looks pretty powerful.

Steve Nelson

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From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 2:58 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: SOT: desktop application

I have a question about what the best practice would be for creating a
desktop application.  I do websites for some different bands, and they
all have an e-mail sign-up on their website.  Most of them also have
some kind of a paper sign-up at concerts for people to sign up for the
email list.  I was considering building an app that would run on a
desktop to allow people at concerts to enter their email address and
write it to a text or xml file that could then be uploaded to the
webserver and parsed into the database.

My question is what would be the best method to do this?  I was thinking
of doing the front end in Flash but I'm not sure how to write to a file
from there.  In theory, this app would need to work on a mac and a pc.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

John Burns

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RE: Popularity of Cold Fusion

2004-04-02 Thread Cameron Childress
> I also think it is funny that they didn't include php or asp (non-.net).
> I would think that php would be far more popular than CF or ASP.net.

Now I'm as big of a fan of CF any anyone is, but when I went looking for
evidence against this on Netcraft I found the following:

http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2003/08/30/php_growing_surprisingly_strong
ly_on_windows.html
"Although PHP is universally thought of as implying Linux, Apache and MySQL,
nearly 7% of PHP sites [when counting by ip address] run on Windows. This
has doubled over the last year, and on its current growth trajectory PHP
will overtake Cold Fusion as the most popular non-Microsoft scripting
language used on Windows during the next year."

Of course number of sites != popularity and number of sites != number of
developers.  Interesting though...

-Cameron

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Subject: RE: Popularity of Cold Fusion

I also think it is funny that they didn't include php or asp (non-.net).
I would think that php would be far more popular than CF or ASP.net.

/Hugo

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| > not sure how reliable the survey is given the statement:
| >
| > "Other large enterprises utilising ASP.NET include  British
| >  Telecom "
| >
| > but a visit to bt.com defaults to:
| >
| > http://www.bt.com/index.jsp
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|
| now that is a very good point!
|
| Paul
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Re: What takes more server resources

2004-04-02 Thread brobborb
This is just a wild guess, but I'm thinking the former will take longer (even if it's just a few milliseconds!) since it will have to open up 2 db connections.

Again, just a wild guess.

:)

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  From: Jim Louis 
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  Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 1:06 PM
  Subject: What takes more server resources

  Do querying two different databases from the same page use more resources and take longer that two querys of the same database? of  is there no difference.

  Jim Louis
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Re: desktop application

2004-04-02 Thread brobborb
why not just design it in IE, have it fill up the whole screen, use some flash elements to make it looks flashy or nice or whatever, but use regular ol' HTML forms

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  From: Burns, John D 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 1:58 PM
  Subject: SOT: desktop application

  I have a question about what the best practice would be for creating a
  desktop application.  I do websites for some different bands, and they
  all have an e-mail sign-up on their website.  Most of them also have
  some kind of a paper sign-up at concerts for people to sign up for the
  email list.  I was considering building an app that would run on a
  desktop to allow people at concerts to enter their email address and
  write it to a text or xml file that could then be uploaded to the
  webserver and parsed into the database.

  My question is what would be the best method to do this?  I was thinking
  of doing the front end in Flash but I'm not sure how to write to a file
  from there.  In theory, this app would need to work on a mac and a pc.
  Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

  John Burns
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What takes more server resources

2004-04-02 Thread Jim Louis
Do querying two different databases from the same page use more resources and take longer that two querys of the same database? of  is there no difference.

Jim Louis
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Re: desktop application

2004-04-02 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Yep you could build a standalone Flash app that runs as a projector (.exe file on computer in question).  The app could store the registrations in an XML filelater you can suck the data out of the XML file and stuff it in the DB

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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  From: Burns, John D 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:58 AM
  Subject: SOT: desktop application

  I have a question about what the best practice would be for creating a
  desktop application.  I do websites for some different bands, and they
  all have an e-mail sign-up on their website.  Most of them also have
  some kind of a paper sign-up at concerts for people to sign up for the
  email list.  I was considering building an app that would run on a
  desktop to allow people at concerts to enter their email address and
  write it to a text or xml file that could then be uploaded to the
  webserver and parsed into the database.

  My question is what would be the best method to do this?  I was thinking
  of doing the front end in Flash but I'm not sure how to write to a file
  from there.  In theory, this app would need to work on a mac and a pc.
  Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

  John Burns
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SOT: desktop application

2004-04-02 Thread Burns, John D
I have a question about what the best practice would be for creating a
desktop application.  I do websites for some different bands, and they
all have an e-mail sign-up on their website.  Most of them also have
some kind of a paper sign-up at concerts for people to sign up for the
email list.  I was considering building an app that would run on a
desktop to allow people at concerts to enter their email address and
write it to a text or xml file that could then be uploaded to the
webserver and parsed into the database.

 
My question is what would be the best method to do this?  I was thinking
of doing the front end in Flash but I'm not sure how to write to a file
from there.  In theory, this app would need to work on a mac and a pc.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

 
John Burns
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Re: OT: Flash pop-up help

2004-04-02 Thread Ben Doom
I don't have one handy (I did this while working with a flash developer, 
who has all the FLA files) but I remember we had a slight problem, and 
there's a trick to fixing it.

Try using a call like:
_javascript_:parent.function(parameters);
instead of
_javascript_:function(parameters);

That might have been what the problem was.

Sorry my brain can't dredge it up for sure

--Ben

Bryan Stevenson wrote:

> Hey Ben,
> 
> Can you fire up a sample getURL() call with window.open and some window 
> properties set?  I must just be missing some syntaxI tried several 
> approaches but something is off ;-)
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> t. 250.920.8830
> e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
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> Founder & Director
> www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Ben Doom
>   To: CF-Talk
>   Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 10:34 AM
>   Subject: Re: OT: Flash pop-up help
> 
>   You can use the getURL() function to call _javascript_ in the enclosing
>   page, just like you would out of an anchor tag.
> 
>   --Ben
> 
>   Bryan Stevenson wrote:
> 
>   > Hey All,
>   >
>   > I want to open a window from in side a Flash movie using 
> _javascript_.  So far
>   > all I've been able to do is open the window using the getURL() 
> function with
>   > a target of "_blank".  This gets me the window I want, but when I use
>   > "window.close();" in the pop-up window to allow users to close it, that
>   > annoying "The web page you are viewing is trying to close this 
> window.  Do
>   > you want to close this window?" alert window.
>   >
>   > My assumption is that because the pop-up was not opened via 
> _javascript_ that
>   > it whines when closed with _javascript_.  All my other pop-ups that 
> are popped
>   > from a regular web page (not from inside Flash) using _javascript_ do 
> not show
>   > this alert when being closed via _javascript_.  Of course it may also have
>   > something to do with the pop-up being launched from inside Flash.
>   >
>   > Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!!
>   >
>   > Cheers
>   >
>   > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
>   > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
>   > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
>   > t. 250.920.8830
>   > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   >
>   > -
>   > Macromedia Associate Partner
>   > www.macromedia.com
>   > -
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>   > Founder & Director
>   > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
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RE: Regex help

2004-04-02 Thread Barney Boisvert
Str = Rereplace(cgi.http_referer, "&message=[^&]*", ""); 

That'll remove a URL variable named message from the string.  Just run that
every time before you append your message variable, and you'll be set.

Cheers,
barneyb

> -Original Message-
> From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 10:43 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Regex help
> 
> I've dabbled in regex, but am not very good at it yet :-)  Anyone
> willing to help with this would be extremely helpful.
>  
> I have a string (actually coming from cgi.http_referer) and I append a
> variable to the end to pass the status of an operation back to the
> original page.  I do this for errors and success through the same
> variable.  The problem is that if I send it in an error and then the
> user fixes the problem and resubmits, I get the original message
> appended in the url string.  I want to use a regex to replace the url
> variable and value if it exists.  Can anyone provide some help?
>  
> http://www.somedomain.com/index.cfm?action="">
> 0is%20the%
> 20error%20message
>  
> I want to do a rereplace that will find if there is the word 
> message in
> the string and remove anything after it up until the next & symbol or
> the end of the string.  Thanks!
>  
> John
> 
> 
>
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Re: Credit Card Processing options

2004-04-02 Thread Butch Zaccheo
I¹ve been using Bank of America for about 2 years now. Have had some
problems recently but all seems to be ironed out now. If you are processing
via http post, Matt Robertson put together a custom tag that does the
trick... The tag is free and easy to setup. Bank of America¹s
Authorization/Settlement service is fairly inexpensive...

Let me know if you want to have a look at the tag...

BZaccheo

On 4/2/04 9:28 AM, "Burns, John D" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm looking into moving away from using Paypal for online payment
> processing into something more customizable and something I can build
> straight into my sites.  I have used Authorize.net in the past for a
> previous employer and I like the flexibility of it.  I'm just curious if
> anyone has pointers for good places to go to get something set up for
> processing credit cards (and possibly checks as well).  I'm looking for
> lowest costs (obviously) and just some kind of interface via HTTP posts,
> web services or anything like that.  Any ideas?
> 
>  
> John Burns
> 
>
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RE: Of Flash, Flex and Accessibility

2004-04-02 Thread Sandy Clark
Flash (and I am assuming Flex) incorporates the MSAAPI (Microsoft
Accessibility API), which (surprise!) only works on windows screen readers
which incorporates it.

 
Since Accessibility and 508 doesn't say only Windows, anything developed
with Flash/Flex at the moment isn't truely accessibile since it shuts out
anyone coming in on Mac, Linux, Unix, etc.  While that might not be a huge
portion of the population, its still a problem.

 
The idea behind accessibility is to make your pages accessible to anyone
from anywhere regardless of their machinery, or disability or ability.
IMHO, Flash/Flex doesn't meet that standard.

 
Sandy Clark
http://www.shayna.com/blog ColdFusion, Fusebox, Web Standards, Accessibility
and CSS

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From: Morgan Senkal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:37 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Of Flash, Flex and Accessibility

I have seen lots of claims by MM that the Flash player (version?) as well as
Flex and even CFMX all have 'built-in' accessibility support.  My question
is, exactly how accessible is the Flash player, and by extension Flex?  What
tools are included that enable accessibility?  As a government agency, we
are mandated by law to be 508 compliant, which at this time we are.  If we
were ever to consider any sort of move towards an RIA and implementing Flash
and/or Flex (however unlikely at this time) these questions must be
answered. 
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RE: [DWMX2K4] Does this feature sound familiar?

2004-04-02 Thread Douglas.Knudsen
actually, DWMX has much of its stuffs in _javascript_.  Take a gander through the install dir, quite amazing really.  Extensions can be written in _javascript_
http://www.macromedia.com/support/dreamweaver/extend/creating_simple_cmmd_ext/
for a simple example...nope, I haven't done this yet, but this thread got me to thinking about it...shouldn't be hard to do this, I just aintz gotz the times nows.

 
peas...

 
Doug

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Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 1:21 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: [DWMX2K4] Does this feature sound familiar?

> >www.macromedia.com/go/wish
> >I guess we could post it to the wishlist.
>
> Please do- that's the best way to get it directly into the product team.
> This isn't the first (or do I suspect the last) time I've heard of a
request
> for code collapse in DW, I've also submitted a request for it myself,
FWIW.
> ;)
>
> -Scott
>  Macromedia, inc.

Straight from the horses mouth...I'm on my way right now to do it...

Although, Douglas' idea sure does sound cool...Wonder how hard it is to do?
I've got a little C++ experience...

Sounds like a fun little research project for the weekend... 
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Regex help

2004-04-02 Thread Burns, John D
I've dabbled in regex, but am not very good at it yet :-)  Anyone
willing to help with this would be extremely helpful.

 
I have a string (actually coming from cgi.http_referer) and I append a
variable to the end to pass the status of an operation back to the
original page.  I do this for errors and success through the same
variable.  The problem is that if I send it in an error and then the
user fixes the problem and resubmits, I get the original message
appended in the url string.  I want to use a regex to replace the url
variable and value if it exists.  Can anyone provide some help?

 
http://www.somedomain.com/index.cfm?action="">
20error%20message

 
I want to do a rereplace that will find if there is the word message in
the string and remove anything after it up until the next & symbol or
the end of the string.  Thanks!

 
John
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Re: Flash pop-up help

2004-04-02 Thread Bryan Stevenson
DOH!  didn't even think of an external JS function call.TGIF me thinks...I need some time on the lake ;-)

Thanks

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Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
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  From: Hagan, Ryan Mr (Contractor ACI) 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 10:34 AM
  Subject: RE: Flash pop-up help

  I have done it in the past by creating the "popup" function in the same web
  page that launches the Flash animation:

  

RE: OT: Flash pop-up help

2004-04-02 Thread Robert Redpath
You have to call the _javascript_ function in the getURL action. 

getURL("_javascript_:newBrowserWindow('videos2.html')"); 

Check the archives at chattyfig for more flash info.
http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/flashcoders-wiki/index.php?FlashCoders
 

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From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 1:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: Flash pop-up help

You can use the getURL() function to call _javascript_ in the enclosing 
page, just like you would out of an anchor tag.

--Ben

Bryan Stevenson wrote:

> Hey All,
> 
> I want to open a window from in side a Flash movie using _javascript_.  So
far
> all I've been able to do is open the window using the getURL() function
with
> a target of "_blank".  This gets me the window I want, but when I use
> "window.close();" in the pop-up window to allow users to close it, that
> annoying "The web page you are viewing is trying to close this window.  Do
> you want to close this window?" alert window.
> 
> My assumption is that because the pop-up was not opened via _javascript_
that
> it whines when closed with _javascript_.  All my other pop-ups that are
popped
> from a regular web page (not from inside Flash) using _javascript_ do not
show
> this alert when being closed via _javascript_.  Of course it may also have
> something to do with the pop-up being launched from inside Flash.
> 
> Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!!
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> t. 250.920.8830
> e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> -
> Macromedia Associate Partner
> www.macromedia.com
> -
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> Founder & Director
> www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
> 
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Re: OT: Flash pop-up help

2004-04-02 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Hey Ben,

Can you fire up a sample getURL() call with window.open and some window properties set?  I must just be missing some syntaxI tried several approaches but something is off ;-)

Cheers

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Ben Doom 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 10:34 AM
  Subject: Re: OT: Flash pop-up help

  You can use the getURL() function to call _javascript_ in the enclosing 
  page, just like you would out of an anchor tag.

  --Ben

  Bryan Stevenson wrote:

  > Hey All,
  > 
  > I want to open a window from in side a Flash movie using _javascript_.  So far
  > all I've been able to do is open the window using the getURL() function with
  > a target of "_blank".  This gets me the window I want, but when I use
  > "window.close();" in the pop-up window to allow users to close it, that
  > annoying "The web page you are viewing is trying to close this window.  Do
  > you want to close this window?" alert window.
  > 
  > My assumption is that because the pop-up was not opened via _javascript_ that
  > it whines when closed with _javascript_.  All my other pop-ups that are popped
  > from a regular web page (not from inside Flash) using _javascript_ do not show
  > this alert when being closed via _javascript_.  Of course it may also have
  > something to do with the pop-up being launched from inside Flash.
  > 
  > Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!!
  > 
  > Cheers
  > 
  > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
  > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
  > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
  > t. 250.920.8830
  > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  > 
  > -
  > Macromedia Associate Partner
  > www.macromedia.com
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RE: Flash pop-up help

2004-04-02 Thread Hagan, Ryan Mr (Contractor ACI)
I have done it in the past by creating the "popup" function in the same web
page that launches the Flash animation:

 

Re: OT: Flash pop-up help

2004-04-02 Thread Ben Doom
You can use the getURL() function to call _javascript_ in the enclosing 
page, just like you would out of an anchor tag.

--Ben

Bryan Stevenson wrote:

> Hey All,
> 
> I want to open a window from in side a Flash movie using _javascript_.  So far
> all I've been able to do is open the window using the getURL() function with
> a target of "_blank".  This gets me the window I want, but when I use
> "window.close();" in the pop-up window to allow users to close it, that
> annoying "The web page you are viewing is trying to close this window.  Do
> you want to close this window?" alert window.
> 
> My assumption is that because the pop-up was not opened via _javascript_ that
> it whines when closed with _javascript_.  All my other pop-ups that are popped
> from a regular web page (not from inside Flash) using _javascript_ do not show
> this alert when being closed via _javascript_.  Of course it may also have
> something to do with the pop-up being launched from inside Flash.
> 
> Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!!
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> t. 250.920.8830
> e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
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OT: Flash pop-up help

2004-04-02 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Hey All,

I want to open a window from in side a Flash movie using _javascript_.  So far
all I've been able to do is open the window using the getURL() function with
a target of "_blank".  This gets me the window I want, but when I use
"window.close();" in the pop-up window to allow users to close it, that
annoying "The web page you are viewing is trying to close this window.  Do
you want to close this window?" alert window.

My assumption is that because the pop-up was not opened via _javascript_ that
it whines when closed with _javascript_.  All my other pop-ups that are popped
from a regular web page (not from inside Flash) using _javascript_ do not show
this alert when being closed via _javascript_.  Of course it may also have
something to do with the pop-up being launched from inside Flash.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!!

Cheers

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Force image refresh

2004-04-02 Thread Stan Winchester
yes, I am using cflocation 
>are you using cflocation to get them back to the page after an incorrect?
>tony
>-Original Message-
>From: Stan Winchester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:50 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Force image refresh
>I'm trying to force an image to refresh with the following scenario:
> 
>1.  On a form page:
>  a.  Create and display an image showing a randomly generated 4-digit
>number.
>  b.  Set a session variable based on the randomly generated number.
>  c.  Text input field to enter randomly generated number as shown in image.
>  d.  Submit to action page.
>2.  On action page:
>  a.  Test passed form field with session variable
>    i.  On pass, then continue processing stuff
>    ii. On fail, send back to form and generate new randomly generated
>4-digit number, session variable, & image, and let user resubmit.
> 
>The problem is the image will not refresh. I am using the following code on
>the form page:
> 
> 
> 
>
> 
>If I do a ctrl-f5 in IE, then the proper image is displayed. So I guess what
>I need to do is emulate the equivalent ctrl-f5.
> 
>Any ideas what I might do?
> 
>See a working example at: http://www.aftershockweb.com/test/
>You will see the text representing the randomly generated number, the test
>form, and the image with the randomly generated number. (You will need to do
>the test at least twice to see the problem)
> 
>FYI: The purpose of this test is to verify a user came from a certain page
>to protect from spammer robots.
> 
>Thank you,
>Stan Winchester
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Re: [DWMX2K4] Does this feature sound familiar?

2004-04-02 Thread Jeff Small
> >www.macromedia.com/go/wish
> >I guess we could post it to the wishlist.
>
> Please do- that's the best way to get it directly into the product team.
> This isn't the first (or do I suspect the last) time I've heard of a
request
> for code collapse in DW, I've also submitted a request for it myself,
FWIW.
> ;)
>
> -Scott
>  Macromedia, inc.

Straight from the horses mouth...I'm on my way right now to do it...

Although, Douglas' idea sure does sound cool...Wonder how hard it is to do?
I've got a little C++ experience...

Sounds like a fun little research project for the weekend...
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RE: [DWMX2K4] Does this feature sound familiar?

2004-04-02 Thread Scott Fegette
>www.macromedia.com/go/wish
>I guess we could post it to the wishlist.

Please do- that's the best way to get it directly into the product team.
This isn't the first (or do I suspect the last) time I've heard of a request
for code collapse in DW, I've also submitted a request for it myself, FWIW.
;)

-Scott
 Macromedia, inc.
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RE: [DWMX2K4] Does this feature sound familiar?

2004-04-02 Thread Burns, John D
www.macromedia.com/go/wish

I guess we could post it to the wishlist.

John Burns 

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: [DWMX2K4] Does this feature sound familiar?

> Yes, I know that was in CF Studio (v5 I think...maybe even earlier)  I

> really liked it as well and didn't even really notice it was gone 
> until you just mentioned it.  I don't know if there's anything lurking

> in Dreamweaver or not, but at a quick glance, I couldn't find
anything.
>
> John Burns

Crud. So this feature, which is easily one of the most convenient
features for developers, has somehow disappeared from Dreamweaver MX?

Now for my next, and possibly most important question...how on earth do
we get this back into Dreamweaver?
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RE: [DWMX2K4] Does this feature sound familiar?

2004-04-02 Thread Douglas.Knudsen
you could write your own extension.  :)  Someone might buy it even.  :)

 
Doug

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: [DWMX2K4] Does this feature sound familiar?

> Yes, I know that was in CF Studio (v5 I think...maybe even earlier)  I
> really liked it as well and didn't even really notice it was gone until
> you just mentioned it.  I don't know if there's anything lurking in
> Dreamweaver or not, but at a quick glance, I couldn't find anything.
>
> John Burns

Crud. So this feature, which is easily one of the most convenient features
for developers, has somehow disappeared from Dreamweaver MX?

Now for my next, and possibly most important question...how on earth do we
get this back into Dreamweaver? 
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Re: Credit Card Processing options

2004-04-02 Thread Jim Louis
John,

I take it you want real time payments, look at 

http://www.paypalsucks.com/options.shtml

Just a thought.

Jim Louis
CIO
Best Meetings Inc.

>I'm looking into moving away from using Paypal for online payment
>processing into something more customizable and something I can build
>straight into my sites.  I have used Authorize.net in the past for a
>previous employer and I like the flexibility of it.  I'm just curious if
>anyone has pointers for good places to go to get something set up for
>processing credit cards (and possibly checks as well).  I'm looking for
>lowest costs (obviously) and just some kind of interface via HTTP posts,
>web services or anything like that.  Any ideas?
> 
>John Burns
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RE: [DWMX2K4] Does this feature sound familiar?

2004-04-02 Thread Josh Remus
For argument's sake, HomeSite+ seems to do this just fine, not that I use
this feature.
  -Original Message-
  From: Jeff Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:38 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: [DWMX2K4] Does this feature sound familiar?

  > Yes, I know that was in CF Studio (v5 I think...maybe even earlier)  I
  > really liked it as well and didn't even really notice it was gone until
  > you just mentioned it.  I don't know if there's anything lurking in
  > Dreamweaver or not, but at a quick glance, I couldn't find anything.
  >
  > John Burns

  Crud. So this feature, which is easily one of the most convenient features
  for developers, has somehow disappeared from Dreamweaver MX?

  Now for my next, and possibly most important question...how on earth do we
  get this back into Dreamweaver?
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RE: Force image refresh

2004-04-02 Thread Tony Weeg
are you using cflocation to get them back to the page after an incorrect?

tony

-Original Message-
From: Stan Winchester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:50 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Force image refresh

I'm trying to force an image to refresh with the following scenario:

1.  On a form page:

  a.  Create and display an image showing a randomly generated 4-digit
number.

  b.  Set a session variable based on the randomly generated number.

  c.  Text input field to enter randomly generated number as shown in image.

  d.  Submit to action page.

2.  On action page:

  a.  Test passed form field with session variable

    i.  On pass, then continue processing stuff

    ii. On fail, send back to form and generate new randomly generated
4-digit number, session variable, & image, and let user resubmit.

The problem is the image will not refresh. I am using the following code on
the form page:

 

 



If I do a ctrl-f5 in IE, then the proper image is displayed. So I guess what
I need to do is emulate the equivalent ctrl-f5.

Any ideas what I might do?

See a working example at: http://www.aftershockweb.com/test/

You will see the text representing the randomly generated number, the test
form, and the image with the randomly generated number. (You will need to do
the test at least twice to see the problem)

FYI: The purpose of this test is to verify a user came from a certain page
to protect from spammer robots.

Thank you,

Stan Winchester
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Force image refresh

2004-04-02 Thread Stan Winchester
I'm trying to force an image to refresh with the following scenario:

1.  On a form page:

  a.  Create and display an image showing a randomly generated 4-digit
number.

  b.  Set a session variable based on the randomly generated number.

  c.  Text input field to enter randomly generated number as shown in image.

  d.  Submit to action page.

2.  On action page:

  a.  Test passed form field with session variable

    i.  On pass, then continue processing stuff

    ii. On fail, send back to form and generate new randomly generated
4-digit number, session variable, & image, and let user resubmit.

The problem is the image will not refresh. I am using the following code on
the form page:

 

 



If I do a ctrl-f5 in IE, then the proper image is displayed. So I guess what
I need to do is emulate the equivalent ctrl-f5.

Any ideas what I might do?

See a working example at: http://www.aftershockweb.com/test/

You will see the text representing the randomly generated number, the test
form, and the image with the randomly generated number. (You will need to do
the test at least twice to see the problem)

FYI: The purpose of this test is to verify a user came from a certain page
to protect from spammer robots.

Thank you,

Stan Winchester
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Re: [DWMX2K4] Does this feature sound familiar?

2004-04-02 Thread Jeff Small
> Yes, I know that was in CF Studio (v5 I think...maybe even earlier)  I
> really liked it as well and didn't even really notice it was gone until
> you just mentioned it.  I don't know if there's anything lurking in
> Dreamweaver or not, but at a quick glance, I couldn't find anything.
>
> John Burns

Crud. So this feature, which is easily one of the most convenient features
for developers, has somehow disappeared from Dreamweaver MX?

Now for my next, and possibly most important question...how on earth do we
get this back into Dreamweaver?
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RE: Credit Card Processing options

2004-04-02 Thread Stacy Young
*plug*

We do CC, eCheck and debit processing including UK's solo and switch.

Easy CF integration.

Live and Test accounts for smooth rollout.

We're competitively priced.

http://www.terrapayments.com  

Cheers!

Stace

  _  

From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Credit Card Processing options

I'm looking into moving away from using Paypal for online payment
processing into something more customizable and something I can build
straight into my sites.  I have used Authorize.net in the past for a
previous employer and I like the flexibility of it.  I'm just curious if
anyone has pointers for good places to go to get something set up for
processing credit cards (and possibly checks as well).  I'm looking for
lowest costs (obviously) and just some kind of interface via HTTP posts,
web services or anything like that.  Any ideas?

John Burns

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Of Flash, Flex and Accessibility

2004-04-02 Thread Morgan Senkal
I have seen lots of claims by MM that the Flash player (version?) as well as Flex and even CFMX all have 'built-in' accessibility support.  My question is, exactly how accessible is the Flash player, and by extension Flex?  What tools are included that enable accessibility?  As a government agency, we are mandated by law to be 508 compliant, which at this time we are.  If we were ever to consider any sort of move towards an RIA and implementing Flash and/or Flex (however unlikely at this time) these questions must be answered.
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Credit Card Processing options

2004-04-02 Thread Burns, John D
I'm looking into moving away from using Paypal for online payment
processing into something more customizable and something I can build
straight into my sites.  I have used Authorize.net in the past for a
previous employer and I like the flexibility of it.  I'm just curious if
anyone has pointers for good places to go to get something set up for
processing credit cards (and possibly checks as well).  I'm looking for
lowest costs (obviously) and just some kind of interface via HTTP posts,
web services or anything like that.  Any ideas?

 
John Burns
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Netready Links

2004-04-02 Thread Greg Luce
Does anyone have examples of Netready shopping carts running live? I've
reviewed it and like the looks of it. Just want to show a couple links
to the boss.

Greg
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Re: Do I need to be retrained?

2004-04-02 Thread Adam Churvis
> My question is, if I were to pick a training order, should I go for SQL
> Server first (which I am weak in) or go for MX training first (no
> experience).

Timothy,

Take a look at the two Master Classes we offer (see my signature below),
then contact me offlist.

Respectfully,

Adam Phillip Churvis
Member of Team Macromedia

Advanced Intensive ColdFusion MX Training:
* ColdFusion MX Master Class
* Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000
http://www.ColdFusionTraining.com

Download CommerceBlocks V2.1 and LoRCAT from
http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com

The ColdFusion MX Bible is in bookstores now!
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Re: form.cfid ignored. Why?

2004-04-02 Thread Bert Dawson
> -Original Message-
> From: stylo stylo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 02 April 2004 17:00
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: form.cfid ignored. Why?
> 
> I don't see how that does it. The application page is called 
> first, and it has the cfapplication tag in it, so already 
> done by the time you start the page.

... so you open up the application.cfm and put your code above the cfapplication tag - voila - your code executes before the cfapplication tag.

Bert
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RE: form.cfid ignored. Why?

2004-04-02 Thread Burns, John D
Common misconception:
 must reside in Application.cfm

 tag can reside anywhere.  Most people do use it in the
application.cfm page.  If you want something to happen before the
 tag is executed in the application.cfm, just put the
code before the  in your application.cfm.

Example application.cfm:


	


	




John Burns

-Original Message-
From: stylo stylo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:00 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: form.cfid ignored. Why?

>No, just do (not tested)

I don't see how that does it. The application page is called first, and
it has the cfapplication tag in it, so already done by the time you
start the page.

>But do you have control over the sending page (form)? 

No, coming from another site
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Re: form.cfid ignored. Why?

2004-04-02 Thread stylo stylo
>No, just do (not tested)

I don't see how that does it. The application page is called first, and it has the cfapplication tag in it, so already done by the time you start the page.

>But do you have control over the sending page (form)? 

No, coming from another site
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RE: expanding

2004-04-02 Thread Sandy Clark
Try some of these sites to get good 3 column layouts with headers and
footers. Why reinvent the wheel?

Glish
http://www.glish.com

 
The Page Maker
http://207.44.137.103/pagemaker_form.php

The Layout Reservoir 
http://www.bluerobot.com/web/layouts/ 

Paul O'Brian 
http://www.pmob.co.uk/temp/3colfixedtest_4.htm 

Web Dev CSS Layout Templates 
http://www.benmeadowcroft.com/webdev/ 



From: Bruce, Rodney S HQISEC/Veridian IT Services
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:47 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: expanding 

> HI all
> 
> I am just starting to use CSS.
> 
> I want to replace a table I am using to display information with a CSS.
> 
> The biggest issue I am having so far is that I cant get the s  with
> the data in them to all change size to match each other.
> 
> 
> ie:
> 
> If all s only have a single line of text, they are all the same size,
> but if one wraps and has two or more lines, only that  expands.
> How can I get them all to expand or contract to be the same height no
> mater what amount of text is in each ?
> I limit the over all lenght with the outside .
> 
> example:
> 
> 
> text here
> text here
> text here, more text that will cause this div to
> wrap and be taller then the others.
> text here
>  
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks
> Rodney 

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Re: urlencode mangling accented letters

2004-04-02 Thread stylo stylo
>This could be related to the charset. Are you using utf-8? 

I'm not using a charset; it's just going right out in a cfemail. It comes in as an accent grave e, for example, and arrives as 3 or 4 chars, say a paragraph symbol and some others.

This is only resulting from the urlencoding; was fine before.
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RE: Do I need to be retrained?

2004-04-02 Thread Ryan Kime
You have a good foundation with 4.5, but I would take a MX class because
there are so many new things. I would hate to see you revert to 4.5
techniques when there might be a better way (i.e. JAVA, CFCs, and
webservices). Take the CFMX class and get a good SQL book to hold you over
until you can get some SQL Server training.

-Original Message-
From: Claremont, Timothy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 10:46 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Do I need to be retrained?

I have about five years of experience with CF 4.5 both as a developer
and an administrator. However, I have not used either for about a year
now.

My new employer has embraced the CF route, and therefore I am planning
an order for MX and a new server.

My question is, if I were to pick a training order, should I go for SQL
Server first (which I am weak in) or go for MX training first (no
experience).

My initial plan is to start with our well designed Access tables. I
developed the Access tables with migrating to SQL Server in mind.

Can I get by fairly well on my 4.5 experience, or will I immediately be
"in the hole"?

Thanks!
Tim 
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Re: Popularity of Cold Fusion

2004-04-02 Thread Scott Brady
Dave Watts wrote:

> I don't think PHP is not popular with medium or large businesses. It's
> popular with small businesses who outsource their web development to
> freelancers, but I don't think it's commonly used beyond that.
>
Doesn't Yahoo use PHP?  I thought there was a thread 18 months ago or so 
on why they chose PHP over other technologies.

Scott

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RE: Do I need to be retrained?

2004-04-02 Thread Burns, John D
Well, even 5.0 to MX was a fairly big jump.  4.5 to MX will be even
tougher. There's a lot of new stuff (especially in the CF Administrator)
If it's not a necessity to go to SQL right now, I'd go for MX.  You can
do CF without SQL, but if you're a SQL brainiac and can't manage your
CF, it doesn't do you much good.

My $0.02 

John Burns

-Original Message-
From: Claremont, Timothy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:46 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Do I need to be retrained?

I have about five years of experience with CF 4.5 both as a developer
and an administrator. However, I have not used either for about a year
now.

My new employer has embraced the CF route, and therefore I am planning
an order for MX and a new server.

My question is, if I were to pick a training order, should I go for SQL
Server first (which I am weak in) or go for MX training first (no
experience).

My initial plan is to start with our well designed Access tables. I
developed the Access tables with migrating to SQL Server in mind.

Can I get by fairly well on my 4.5 experience, or will I immediately be
"in the hole"?

Thanks!
Tim
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Re: [DWMX2K4] Does this feature sound familiar?

2004-04-02 Thread Don
CFStudio4.x if memory serves.

>I can't remember where this was, what software had it, and how you even got
>to it, but I'll describe what it was, and someone pipe up and tell me I'm
>either crazy, or I just need to dig deeper to find it...
>
>I seem to recall that in some prior version (maybe even Studio?) that you
>could highlight an entire selection of code, in code view, and "collapse"
>it. This was SUPER convenient when you were trying to navigate some deadly
>nested code, as you could collapse portions of code and "restrict" your
>overall view of the code...
>
>Please tell me I explained that correctly.
>
>Now my question...is such a feature hiding in DWMX2004? And if not...why the
>F not? lol...
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RE: [DWMX2K4] Does this feature sound familiar?

2004-04-02 Thread Burns, John D
Yes, I know that was in CF Studio (v5 I think...maybe even earlier)  I
really liked it as well and didn't even really notice it was gone until
you just mentioned it.  I don't know if there's anything lurking in
Dreamweaver or not, but at a quick glance, I couldn't find anything.

John Burns 

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: [DWMX2K4] Does this feature sound familiar?

I can't remember where this was, what software had it, and how you even
got to it, but I'll describe what it was, and someone pipe up and tell
me I'm either crazy, or I just need to dig deeper to find it...

I seem to recall that in some prior version (maybe even Studio?) that
you could highlight an entire selection of code, in code view, and
"collapse"
it. This was SUPER convenient when you were trying to navigate some
deadly nested code, as you could collapse portions of code and
"restrict" your overall view of the code...

Please tell me I explained that correctly.

Now my question...is such a feature hiding in DWMX2004? And if not...why
the F not? lol...
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HTML table won't top-aligned

2004-04-02 Thread Don
Background info: above the table, a dozen lines of js code and a bit of cf code, none has HTML space-taking code like  or  etc.  Tons of logic inside the TABLE, in and out of TR, but all TRs are closed properly and have same number of TD, which are also closed properly.  But the table is left aligned and vertically sort of centered in the page, though the HTML code says,  or
.  FYI, HTML version
, ua/browser, IE6.0

I've also tried suppresssing white space tag to no avail.

Is there any way to force the table to be (page) top aligned?  CSS, position or ...?

TIA.
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OT: expanding

2004-04-02 Thread Bruce, Rodney S HQISEC/Veridian IT Services
> HI all
> 
> I am just starting to use CSS.
> 
> I want to replace a table I am using to display information with a CSS.
> 
> The biggest issue I am having so far is that I cant get the s  with
> the data in them to all change size to match each other.
> 
> 
> ie:
> 
> If all s only have a single line of text, they are all the same size,
> but if one wraps and has two or more lines, only that  expands.
> How can I get them all to expand or contract to be the same height no
> mater what amount of text is in each ?
> I limit the over all lenght with the outside .
> 
> example:
> 
> 
> 	text here
> 	text here
> 	text here, more text that will cause this div to
> wrap and be taller then the others.
> 	text here
> 	
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks
> Rodney
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Re: how to get rid of the new line character

2004-04-02 Thread cf coder
Thank you for your help Pascal. I'll work this out, you don't waste your time on this. I have got a good idea looking at your code. Thanks again

cfcoder
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Do I need to be retrained?

2004-04-02 Thread Claremont, Timothy
I have about five years of experience with CF 4.5 both as a developer
and an administrator. However, I have not used either for about a year
now.

My new employer has embraced the CF route, and therefore I am planning
an order for MX and a new server.

My question is, if I were to pick a training order, should I go for SQL
Server first (which I am weak in) or go for MX training first (no
experience).

My initial plan is to start with our well designed Access tables. I
developed the Access tables with migrating to SQL Server in mind.

Can I get by fairly well on my 4.5 experience, or will I immediately be
"in the hole"?

Thanks!
Tim
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RE: Popularity of Cold Fusion

2004-04-02 Thread rob.stokes
Yeah that is a bit strange: you see very few sites within BT running ASP: it's all (mostly) cfm.

-Original Message-
From: David Ashworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 02 April 2004 9:25 am
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Popularity of Cold Fusion

not sure how reliable the survey is given the statement:

 
"Other large enterprises utilising ASP.NET include  British
 Telecom "

 
but a visit to bt.com defaults to:

 
http://www.bt.com/index.jsp

 
tesco too appears to use java servlets too

 
or have I missed something here?

-Original Message-
From: Paul Vernon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 02 April 2004 03:21
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Popularity of Cold Fusion

I just came across an article that was published last week on netcraft
regarding the popularity of ASP.net.. Interesting to see where Cold
Fusion comes on the graph and it doesn't even get a mention!


ava_
servlets.html>
http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/03/23/aspnet_overtakes_jsp_and_ja
va_s
ervlets.html 

Paul 
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[DWMX2K4] Does this feature sound familiar?

2004-04-02 Thread Jeff Small
I can't remember where this was, what software had it, and how you even got
to it, but I'll describe what it was, and someone pipe up and tell me I'm
either crazy, or I just need to dig deeper to find it...

I seem to recall that in some prior version (maybe even Studio?) that you
could highlight an entire selection of code, in code view, and "collapse"
it. This was SUPER convenient when you were trying to navigate some deadly
nested code, as you could collapse portions of code and "restrict" your
overall view of the code...

Please tell me I explained that correctly.

Now my question...is such a feature hiding in DWMX2004? And if not...why the
F not? lol...
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RE: how to get rid of the new line character

2004-04-02 Thread Pascal Peters
Why not create a database table and import it in there. You should be able to adapt my code a bit to do that. Create an array of structs and import that. 

I am sorry, but I haven't got more time for you now. It's already evening here and I have to go to band prctice. If I can find the time this weekend I will write some code for you. It's easter holidays here and we are leaving on vacation, so I don't know if I will be able to do it. I will be back on the list in a week.

Pascal Peters
Certified ColdFusion MX Advanced Developer
Macromedia Certified Instructor
LR Technologies
Av. E. De Mot, 19
1000 BRUSSELS, BELGIUM
Tel: +32 2 639 68 70
Fax: +32 2 639 68 99
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> -Original Message-
> From: cf coder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: vrijdag 2 april 2004 17:03
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: how to get rid of the new line character
> 
> Pascal, just when I was beginning to think why you've not 
> replied, you post a reply. Thanks man.
> 
> But this is not quite what I'm after.
> 
> I'll tell you what I've done. I exported data from a mdb file 
> to a txt file. All data in the mdb file is in one column and 
> looks like this
> Column1
> ---
> 1000,
> sgfsdf,
> sfsdf,
> sfdsf,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 1001,
> test,
> new,
> blah
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> etc etc.
> 
> Now, I want the data in the table to be arranged like this:
> Column1 Column2 Column3 Column4
> 
> 1000   sgfsdf sfsdf  sfdsf
> 1001   test   new    blah
> 
> I thought if I export it to a text file and apply some logic 
> and rearrange the data as shown above then when I import it 
> back to a new table, it will be stored in this fashion.
> 
> Its not impossible to do is it?! Can you please show me how 
> to do this. I am going mad.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> 
> > text = "";
> > crlf = chr(13) & chr(10);
> > delim = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]";
> > start = 1;
> > cont = true;
> > fOutput = Replace(fOutput,crlf,chr(10),"ALL");
> > while(cont){
> > 	end = Find(delim,fOutput,start);
> > 	if(NOT end){
> > 		end = Len(fOutput);
> > 		cont = false;
> > 	}
> > 	line = Mid(fOutput,start,end-start);
> > 	start = end + Len(delim);
> > 	if(Len(Trim(line))){
> > 		text = text & REReplace(line,"[#chr(9)# 
> ]*#chr(10)#",",","ALL") & 
> > crlf;
> > 	}
> > }
> > 
> > 
> 
> > file="employerNew.txt" 
> 
> > output="#text#" 
> 
> > addnewline="No">
> > 
> > Depending on what you want to do, you may need to get rid of some 
> > leading and/or trailing commas in the lines.
> > 
> > Btw, in cf a list delimiter is only one character. So if you set 
> > delimiters="[EMAIL PROTECTED]", you will have a new element when ~ , @ OR ¬ is 
> > found.
> > 
> > Pascal
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: cf coder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: vrijdag 2 april 2004 16:35
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: how to get rid of the new line character
> > > 
> > > hi guys I'm hoping someone can help me. I'm reading a text file 
> > > 
> > > 	action="">
> > > 	file="employer.txt"
> > > 	variable="fOutput">
> > > 	
> > > Looping through the text file, I've set the list delimter to be 
> > > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".
>  
> 
>
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RE: Managment

2004-04-02 Thread Jacob
We use Whats Up Gold from IP switch...  $795.  $395 a year for service 
agreement for updates and support.  Been using it for years and love it.

http://ww.ipswitch.com

At 07:37 AM 4/2/2004, you wrote:
>Because when you have to monitor 85 servers at one time it is nice to have a
>one stop shop web page to do it instead of buying 150,000 worth of tools
>that have to run agents on your severs possibly causing cpu utilization
>problems, memory leaks etc.
>
>Josh
>
>   _
>
>From: Hugo Ahlenius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 10:34 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: Managment
>
>Why would you do that in CF?
>
>-
>Hugo Ahlenius  E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Project Officer    Phone:+46 8 230460
>UNEP GRID-Arendal  Fax:  +46 8 230441
>Stockholm Office   Mobile: +46 733 467111
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>-
>
>| -Original Message-
>| From: Joshua Tipton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>| Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 16:20
>| To: CF-Talk
>| Subject: Managment
>|
>| Does anyone know of a component or dll built for cf that
>| would allow one to monitor services on network servers?
>|
>|
>
>   _
>
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RE: Managment

2004-04-02 Thread Dan Phillips
We have been using this for 4+ years now. 

 
Dan Phillips
CFXHosting.com
866.239.4678 x112
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Josh Remus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:03 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Managment

I use ipMonitor for this very task (once by MediaHouse, now it's own
company).  It's at http://www.ipmonitor.com/.  I love this software &
have
it set up to do all sorts of things depending on what I want.  I have
pages
and emails set up, noise alerts that are piped into my office, and I
think
you can even set it up to IM you.  Again - not that you couldn't do this
in
CF, but for $995, in most cases, you can't beat it.  And all the stuff
is
run from the ipMonitor server, so no "agents" have to go on other PCs &
Servers, unless you're doing something I'm not currently doing.

I can't say enough about how this software has made things easier.
  -Original Message-
  From: Hugo Ahlenius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 10:54 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: Managment

  Displaying the status of 85 servers on a web-page is one thing (that
is
  a task for a web application server, i.e. cf), but polling 85 servers
  every 5 mins and taking action if they are not responding properly --
  there better ways to do that. But you can of course do it in CF.

  We are using ServersAlive, but there are a number of other s/w:s
  available (SA, as well as other s/w, have the possibility to output
  web-stuff, often to a custom port). it is a small piece of s/w that
runs
  one one machine and polls a number of servers and services at our
shop,
  and sends me e-mails and text messages(sms) when I need to take
action:
  http://www.woodstone.nu/salive/

  -
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  Project Officer    Phone:+46 8 230460
  UNEP GRID-Arendal  Fax:  +46 8 230441
  Stockholm Office   Mobile: +46 733 467111
 WWW:   http://www.grida.no
  -

  | -Original Message-
  | From: Tipton, Joshua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  | Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 17:38
  | To: CF-Talk
  | Subject: RE: Managment
  |
  | Because when you have to monitor 85 servers at one time it is
  | nice to have a one stop shop web page to do it instead of
  | buying 150,000 worth of tools that have to run agents on your
  | severs possibly causing cpu utilization problems, memory
  | leaks etc.
  |
  |
  |
  | Josh
  |
  |
  |
  |   _
  |
  | From: Hugo Ahlenius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  | Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 10:34 AM
  | To: CF-Talk
  | Subject: RE: Managment
  |
  |
  |
  | Why would you do that in CF?
  |
  |
  | -
  | Hugo Ahlenius  E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  | Project Officer    Phone:+46 8 230460
  | UNEP GRID-Arendal  Fax:  +46 8 230441
  | Stockholm Office   Mobile: +46 733 467111
  |WWW:   http://www.grida.no
  | -
  |
  |
  |
  | | -Original Message-
  | | From: Joshua Tipton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  | | Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 16:20
  | | To: CF-Talk
  | | Subject: Managment
  | |
  | | Does anyone know of a component or dll built for cf that
  | would allow
  | | one to monitor services on network servers?
  | |
  | |
  |
  |   _
  |
  |
  |
  | 
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RE: Managment

2004-04-02 Thread Mark W. Breneman
My $.02.

I would use servers alive, then use CFhttp to get the data from Servers
alive status webpage to build a pretty CF page.

Advice is sometimes worth what you pay for it.. :-)

Mark W. Breneman
-Cold Fusion Developer
-Network Administrator
  Vivid Media
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  www.vividmedia.com
  608.270.9770

-Original Message-
From: Tipton, Joshua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 9:27 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Managment

This is true but I am wanting to do it as a cf page so that the results can
be displayed on a web page in a nice way.

Josh

  _  

From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 10:18 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Managment

Well, I am sure there are loads of DLL's which do that (not specific for CF
and probably reside with Windows already)

   _  

From: Joshua Tipton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 02 April 2004 15:20
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Managment

Does anyone know of a component or dll built for cf that would allow one to
monitor services on network servers? 
   _

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RE: Managment

2004-04-02 Thread Tipton, Joshua
This is true but I am wanting to do it as a cf page so that the results can
be displayed on a web page in a nice way.

Josh

  _  

From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 10:18 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Managment

Well, I am sure there are loads of DLL's which do that (not specific for CF
and probably reside with Windows already)

   _  

From: Joshua Tipton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 02 April 2004 15:20
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Managment

Does anyone know of a component or dll built for cf that would allow one to
monitor services on network servers? 
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Re: Flex is out

2004-04-02 Thread Rob
On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 12:14, Christian Cantrell wrote:
> On Mar 31, 2004, at 7:42 AM, Whittingham, P wrote:
> 
> > The main problem I have with flex and flash mx 2004 is the size of swf 
> > file. The download times suffer even on an intranet.
> 
> What kind of file sizes are you seeing?  We have seen that typical Flex 
> applications are around 100K to 150K.  Typically, they achieve the 
> majority of their size very early on, then tend to plateau since assets 
> are shared very efficiently across components.  150K for an RIA might 
> seem hefty at first, but actually, it isn't.  

150K is not big at all. Thats the size of a large image (most detailed
screen shots are about that high). I have seen a bit of lag when first
hitting a largish flash movie, is there a "fire up the flash player" lag
time (I have a really slow computer btw)? and if there is, is it just
the first time (like the Java JVM)?

>   I actually believe that Flex applications are much more bandwidth 
> efficient than comparable HTML applications.

(My $0.0002) -- If they use soap (which flex says it can do) I would
agree, because they are only passing the needed data as opposed to the
full on page for every action. Unless they are passing huge structures
or arrays that is.

-- 
Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Re: RE: Popularity of Cold Fusion

2004-04-02 Thread Kwang Suh
Hmm, they seem to use BroadVision.

- Original Message -
From: Paul Vernon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, April 2, 2004 4:16 am
Subject: RE: Popularity of Cold Fusion

> > not sure how reliable the survey is given the statement:
> >
> > "Other large enterprises utilising ASP.NET include  British
> > <" target="l">http://www.bt.com/> Telecom "
> >
> > but a visit to bt.com defaults to:
> >
> > http://www.bt.com/index.jsp
> 
> 
> now that is a very good point!
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
>
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RE: Popularity of Cold Fusion

2004-04-02 Thread Dave Watts
> I also think it is funny that they didn't include php or asp 
> (non-.net). I would think that php would be far more popular 
> than CF or ASP.net.

I don't think PHP is not popular with medium or large businesses. It's
popular with small businesses who outsource their web development to
freelancers, but I don't think it's commonly used beyond that.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
phone: 202-797-5496
fax: 202-797-5444
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RE: Managment

2004-04-02 Thread Josh Remus
I use ipMonitor for this very task (once by MediaHouse, now it's own
company).  It's at http://www.ipmonitor.com/.  I love this software & have
it set up to do all sorts of things depending on what I want.  I have pages
and emails set up, noise alerts that are piped into my office, and I think
you can even set it up to IM you.  Again - not that you couldn't do this in
CF, but for $995, in most cases, you can't beat it.  And all the stuff is
run from the ipMonitor server, so no "agents" have to go on other PCs &
Servers, unless you're doing something I'm not currently doing.

I can't say enough about how this software has made things easier.
  -Original Message-
  From: Hugo Ahlenius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 10:54 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: Managment

  Displaying the status of 85 servers on a web-page is one thing (that is
  a task for a web application server, i.e. cf), but polling 85 servers
  every 5 mins and taking action if they are not responding properly --
  there better ways to do that. But you can of course do it in CF.

  We are using ServersAlive, but there are a number of other s/w:s
  available (SA, as well as other s/w, have the possibility to output
  web-stuff, often to a custom port). it is a small piece of s/w that runs
  one one machine and polls a number of servers and services at our shop,
  and sends me e-mails and text messages(sms) when I need to take action:
  http://www.woodstone.nu/salive/

  -
  Hugo Ahlenius  E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Project Officer    Phone:+46 8 230460
  UNEP GRID-Arendal  Fax:  +46 8 230441
  Stockholm Office   Mobile: +46 733 467111
 WWW:   http://www.grida.no
  -

  | -Original Message-
  | From: Tipton, Joshua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  | Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 17:38
  | To: CF-Talk
  | Subject: RE: Managment
  |
  | Because when you have to monitor 85 servers at one time it is
  | nice to have a one stop shop web page to do it instead of
  | buying 150,000 worth of tools that have to run agents on your
  | severs possibly causing cpu utilization problems, memory
  | leaks etc.
  |
  |
  |
  | Josh
  |
  |
  |
  |   _
  |
  | From: Hugo Ahlenius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  | Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 10:34 AM
  | To: CF-Talk
  | Subject: RE: Managment
  |
  |
  |
  | Why would you do that in CF?
  |
  |
  | -
  | Hugo Ahlenius  E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  | Project Officer    Phone:+46 8 230460
  | UNEP GRID-Arendal  Fax:  +46 8 230441
  | Stockholm Office   Mobile: +46 733 467111
  |WWW:   http://www.grida.no
  | -
  |
  |
  |
  | | -Original Message-
  | | From: Joshua Tipton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  | | Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 16:20
  | | To: CF-Talk
  | | Subject: Managment
  | |
  | | Does anyone know of a component or dll built for cf that
  | would allow
  | | one to monitor services on network servers?
  | |
  | |
  |
  |   _
  |
  |
  |
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