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Re: Java Imaging packages on UNIX

2005-08-03 Thread James Holmes

As usual, I posted too soon. On the last restart of CF this broke and
CF no longer finds the classes it is looking for in Xvfb.

Does anyone have any ideas where we need to look to get it working again?

On 7/28/05, James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 For those who try to get CFCHART working alongside packages like the
 Alagad Imaging Component on headless Solaris (and for all I know, any
 other headless UNIX/Linux system), I'd like to save you some time by
 pointing you to the one and only truly, completely useful blog we
 could find on the subject:
 
 http://www.livejournal.com/users/alierak/12504.html
 
 For the record, we thought, let's try the official XServer supplied
 in Solaris 9. Bzzzt; no deal. We had to run Xvfb, but as soon as we
 did it all worked like a charm.

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Re: Physical Address Verification.

2005-08-03 Thread Dan O'Keefe

Emmet,

Both of these were 5+ years ago, so take the info with a grain of salt.

I used Group 1 COM objects several years ago to do this:

http://g1.com/Products/DataQuality/InteractiveDemo/

Not sure how they sell them or package them now.

Also, http://www.firstlogic.com/solutions/mailing/default.asp, an XML solution.

Both options = $

Dan

On 8/2/05, Emmet McGovern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Last time I looked into USPS policy it was for parcel shipping only and not
 mail.  This is a catalog company that's trying to limit the amount of return
 postage.  Maybe USPS has changed since then.
 
 -e
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 6:20 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Physical Address Verification.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Emmet McGovern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 6:13 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Physical Address Verification.
 
  I need a way to verify an address is complete and accurate.  Has anyone
  made
  a physical address verification form before?  I'm currently looking at
  this
  service but didn't know if any others existed out there.
 
  http://www.qas.com/address-search.asp
 
 The US postal service has a Web Service interface for this kind of thing.
 
 We use a MainFrame tool called Trillium which is a bear to work with but
 gives very good results.
 
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RE: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms

2005-08-03 Thread Micha Schopman

Dave,

I have no personal preferences for either Flex or DHTML. And I am lucky to be 
in a situation where I have hands on experience with both. Like I said before, 
I think the best solution is a combination of Flex and DHTML. Flex just isn't 
there on performance level yet. I think you really should think in ways of 
combining them both.

After people here said, that it ran fine with them I wondered if they expanded 
the preferences section. Did that run well? I've checked with multiple systems 
if I was wrong, and they all showed up hogging the CPU to 100% while expanding. 
Does expanding preferences really go smooth?

Regarding your negativity statements; I am open things and at least have the 
balls to talk about things not working correctly, people have opinions. On a 
list full of Macromedia zealots they might feel it is offensive to talk too 
honestly about their favorite product or company in such a way, but those who 
have criticism about products should be able to talk about it openly. If I am 
wrong about things I have no problem acknowledging that. If you think I am 
wrong, please discuss it with arguments. 

With the Flex comment I just expressed my concerns regarding performance, when 
doing more than reading RSS feeds. And I believe, watching at other reactions 
on Flex for RIA development from real software architects, that it is a real 
concern.

Flickr btw switched to DHTML a long time ago, and besided runtime image 
modifications I didn't see the real use for Flash there either. Don't use Flash 
because it is Flash, use it because it might solve a problem for you.

Micha Schopman
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-Original Message-
From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: woensdag 3 augustus 2005 3:45
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms

Come on micha tell us how dhtml would do it so much better ;)

 Also, last time i checked cfform was coldfusion and not flex, while yes it 
uses a SMALL flex engine it's exactly that a small flex engine and i certainly 
wouldn't say that example is an equal comparable item to a real flex one.

  Expanding and collapsing brings my dual core system on its knees
 What are you running? Barbies Malibu pc? Runs fine on my mac just fine.

 I maybe negitive towards m$ but damn do you look at the bright side 
of...,  well anything at all?
 You remind me of my dad, mr. negitivity.

  For small widgets
 you mean like kodaks photoshare or flickr, yes very small indeed.

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 Micha Schopman Short Link: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=m:4:41450:213379 Mike, They have 
delivered a wonderful piece of work, but I must say that this real world 
example shows again, why Flex is not mature yet for full blown applications in 
the browser. Expanding and collapsing brings my dual core system on its knees, 
not to mention resizing the window resulting in the exact same effect. 
Scrolling the grid with the handle on a 3Ghz CPU has the exact same effect. 
Either way, they did a great job and I applaud what they did, but it doesn't 
position Flex in my eyes as THE tool for building truly Rich Internet 
Applications, ... not yet. For small widgets, are as GUI enhancements it is 
ready though.






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Re: dealer locator

2005-08-03 Thread Paul Hastings

dave wrote:
 i found a cool php one but it runs off of gps info which I dont have

well, what do you have?

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Re: Java Imaging packages on UNIX

2005-08-03 Thread Thomas Chiverton

On Wednesday 03 August 2005 07:33, James Holmes wrote:
 As usual, I posted too soon. On the last restart of CF this broke and
 CF no longer finds the classes it is looking for in Xvfb.

Is Xvfb running ?

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Re: Handling database locks

2005-08-03 Thread Thomas Chiverton

On Tuesday 02 August 2005 20:07, Rebecca Wells wrote:
 allowed the select statements to run and the query did not timeout. Can
 anyone suggest a way to set an exclusive row lock or a better approach?

Use something like Aqua DataStudio to update a row in a table, but don't 
commit your changes.
Then try to update the same row from CF.

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Re: Queries Totals

2005-08-03 Thread Michel Deloux

Thanks Barney. Great help. I'll think about. One more: using CFC in
the middle tier could do that, right?

Cheers

MD

2005/8/2, Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 You could write your own debugging template (or more likely, just
 modify the existing ones - they're not encrypted for this reason) that
 will tell you.  Not sure if you can get per-file stats like you do for
 execution times, but you might poke around.  If nothing else, you can
 pull the list of queries at the top of your template, record the
 recordCount, do the same at the end of your template, and subtract the
 two numbers to figure out how many queries ran.  Check the debugging
 templates as examples of the syntax to use.
 
 Just keep in mind that a lot of the features the debugging templates
 use aren't officially supported CF features, so they might not work
 across versions.  However, each version will have a way to do what you
 want, in general, because the debugging output doesn't change between
 versions much.
 
 cheers,
 barneyb
 
 On 8/2/05, Michel Deloux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi all
 
  it's possible to know the number of queries used in a template,
  including cfinclude ...? May be when you're using CF debug option.
 
  Cheers
 
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Message to moderator

2005-08-03 Thread richard

Hi,
 
I can't sign-in to house of fusion to adjust my details or post online. I
add in the correct username and password, I receive the green message
stating that Your current status is: Logged In. My PC does accept cookies
and I have been able to log in before.
 
Any ideas what's causing it?
 
Thanks,
 
 
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Re: dealer locator

2005-08-03 Thread Graham Pearson

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Hash: SHA1
 
I have one which I wrote but it only does USA ZipCodes and the user
has to type in all 5 digits. The code is very easy to write and the
hard part is getting a Current Database that has all of new ZipCodes
plus the Lat/Log Data in it.

If you looking at a PHP version, you can check out my Brother's
version which is located at http://www.yourphppro.com



dave wrote:

anyone got or know of a killer dealer locator? can be cfm, php, flash,
whatever but would like a very cool one, only real requests is worldwide
and can go off 3 digits, doesn't have to be free either :)

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Re: Message to moderator

2005-08-03 Thread Michael Tangorre

I just logged in. In fact, I am replying from the HOF site. Did you click on 
the list (on the left)?

All seems fine over here.

Mike T.

I can't sign-in to house of fusion to adjust my details or post online. I
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stating that Your current status is: Logged In. My PC does accept cookies
and I have been able to log in before.
 
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Using db drivers other than what's provided

2005-08-03 Thread SStewart

Is there any way to change the JDBC driver that ColdFusion uses. IE: Microsoft 
has come out with a new JDBC Driver (in beta) for SQL 2000/2005. I'd like to 
uses this instead of the SQL Server Driver that comes with CF to see if it'll 
solve some of the problems we've been having.

Thanks

sas

Scott A. Stewart, 
Web Application Developer
 
Engineering Consulting Services, Ltd. (ECS)
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Chantilly, VA 20151
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From: Marlon Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 04:11 pm
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Creating Windows GUIDs with Cold Fusion
Importance: Low

Sorry, gmail hiccup.

On 5/9/05, Marlon Moyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Like this?
 
 http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=54
 
 or do you mean something else...
 
 On 5/9/05, SStewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  All,
 
  Has anyone tried creating a Windows GUID (Globally Unique Indentifier) with 
  Cold Fusion?
 
  sas
 
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  Web Application Developer
 
  Engineering Consulting Services, Ltd. (ECS)
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Re: Last_Inster_Id()

2005-08-03 Thread Dave Phipps

There is a way to get multiple queries to run within one cfquery if you
are using the jdbc drivers.  There is a setting that you put in the
connection string for your ds in cfadmin - check out Pete Freitags blog:

http://www.petefreitag.com/item/357.cfm

HTH

Dave

Barney Boisvert wrote:
 Isaac is correct, MySQL does not allow multiple statements in a single
 query like SQL Server does.
 
 cheers,
 barneyb
 
 On 8/1/05, Les Mizzell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Taco Fleur (@DataBroker) wrote:

Why not put both statements in one cfquery tag?

cfquery name=whatever ...
  INSERT INTO 
  SELECT LAST_INSERT_ID() AS `id`
/cfquery


I was trying to avoid two queries. But, the above, which is what I was
tyring to accomplish, isn't working, or at least there's a syntax issue.

So, it looks like two queries...


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Re: Using db drivers other than what's provided

2005-08-03 Thread Dave Phipps

Install the driver onto your machine and then choose other when
creating a dsn in cfadmin.  You may also need to add the path to the jar
file in the classpath section of Java and JVM settings in CFAdmin.

Then you just fill in the JDBC URL and Driver Class for the SQL jdbc.

This is what I have done for MySQL so I am guessing it will be similar.

Anyone else?

HTH

Dave

SStewart wrote:
 Is there any way to change the JDBC driver that ColdFusion uses. IE: 
 Microsoft has come out with a new JDBC Driver (in beta) for SQL 2000/2005. 
 I'd like to uses this instead of the SQL Server Driver that comes with CF to 
 see if it'll solve some of the problems we've been having.
 
 Thanks
 
 sas
 
 Scott A. Stewart, 
 Web Application Developer
  
 Engineering Consulting Services, Ltd. (ECS)
 14026 Thunderbolt Place, Suite 300
 Chantilly, VA 20151
 Phone: (703) 995-1737
 Fax: (703) 834-5527
  
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 Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 04:11 pm
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Creating Windows GUIDs with Cold Fusion
 Importance: Low
 
 Sorry, gmail hiccup.
 
 On 5/9/05, Marlon Moyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Like this?

http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=54

or do you mean something else...

On 5/9/05, SStewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

All,

Has anyone tried creating a Windows GUID (Globally Unique Indentifier) with 
Cold Fusion?

sas

Scott A. Stewart,
Web Application Developer

Engineering Consulting Services, Ltd. (ECS)
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Chantilly, VA 20151
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Fax: (703) 834-5527

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Re: datasource returns 0 rows via JDBC, !=0 via ASP

2005-08-03 Thread Thomas Chiverton

On Wednesday 03 August 2005 03:03, Damien McKenna wrote:
 So is there any easy way to set up an other datasource 

Choose that option in the admin, copy the jar into the classpath.

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RE: OMFG its not working - JDBC returning 0 rows

2005-08-03 Thread kola.oyedeji

Are you using the odbc-jdbc bridge or JDBC?

 -Original Message-
 From: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 02 August 2005 21:31
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: OMFG its not working - JDBC returning 0 rows

 OMFGwerereamedupthe-ifitdoesntwork time here.

 Moving servers and from one ODBC interface to another.

 Old server: cfml 6.1 + updater, datadirect 5.2, 10 year old ODBC drivers
 piped through Access link tables for stability.

 New server: cfml 6.1 + updater, datadirect 5.2 or 5.3, recent ODBC
 drivers.

 I did a test page with ASP, select * from tablename, I get hundreds of
 rows.

 Same thing in CFML, I get 0 rows.

 The ODBC doesn't have a username, the query string for the ASP page only
 has the DSN.  For CFML I set it as a trusted source with a blank
 username.  No workee.

 There's nothing funny in any of the CFML logs.

 Any suggestions what to try?  I *need* to get this working but its not
 and I'm out of ideas.  Thanks everyone.

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Re: Queries Totals

2005-08-03 Thread Patrick Quinn

Greetings, Michel. SeeFusion will tell you the total number of queries that ran 
for a given request (along with a host of other metrics). I know you asked 
about queries per template, so not sure if this helps or not, but I thought I'd 
throw it out just in case.

More info and a free eval copy available at http://www.seefusion.com.

Best,
Patrick Quinn
Do you SeeFusion?

Hi all

it's possible to know the number of queries used in a template,
including cfinclude ...? May be when you're using CF debug option.

Cheers

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RE: ColdFusion Admin Error

2005-08-03 Thread Mike Nimer

Can you send me the stack trace from the error message?
---nimer

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To: CF-Talk
Subject: ColdFusion Admin Error

  I'm stumped.

  This is a screenshot:
http://www.instantcoldfusion.com/cfadminerror.jpg 
...  I get similar errors for settings, caching, memory variables,
charting, 
data sources, debugging settings, and debugging IP address.

  ColdFusion MX 6.1 deployed on JRun (not the standalone edition of 
CF).  Windows 2000 / IIS 5.  The ColdFusion instance is working
properly, 
its just the admin that throws an error.

  Other sites on the same box have CFIDE virtual directories that point
to 
the same 'cfide hard directory' w/o problems.  Presumably this is a 
configuration error (as opposed to a bug in the admin) but I can't seem
to 
figure it out.

  Any ideas?

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RE: Queries Totals

2005-08-03 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)

How about you release it for free anyway! It is a well cool tool and I am
sure the community would embrace it ;-)

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Subject: Re: Queries Totals

Greetings, Michel. SeeFusion will tell you the total number of queries that
ran for a given request (along with a host of other metrics). I know you
asked about queries per template, so not sure if this helps or not, but I
thought I'd throw it out just in case.

More info and a free eval copy available at http://www.seefusion.com.

Best,
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Do you SeeFusion?

Hi all

it's possible to know the number of queries used in a template,
including cfinclude ...? May be when you're using CF debug option.

Cheers

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RE: ColdFusion Admin Error

2005-08-03 Thread Paul Vernon

Jeff,

I know you blacked out the address in the browser but it's in the screenshot
too...

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Getting a Date Query to wrap to the next year

2005-08-03 Thread Les Mizzell

I've got a calendar on a page that should always show the next three 
months worth of events from the start month you pick from a list. It's 
working great for events in 2005, or if you skip to an event in 2006 it 
will show the next three 2006 months.

The problem I'm having is getting it to wrap from 2005 to 2006. For 
example, if I select December, I should see events for December 2005, 
January, 2006 and Feb 2006. However, it stops at 2005 and won't display 
any 2006 events until I select a month from 2006.  Hope I made that 
confusing enough for everybody...

Here's the query in question:

cfquery name=calendar
SELECT
 id, event_date, month(event_date) as theMONTH, event_name
 FROM eip_events
WHERE
 month(event_date) = #month(startDATE)#
 and year(event_date) = #year(startDATE)#
 and event_date  #threemonths#
ORDER BY event_date,event_time ASC
/cfquery


The problem is cleary with the first WHERE line
month(event_date) = #month(startDATE)#

Somehow it needs to also say unless it's November or December, then 
wrap the month back around to January of the next year.

Ideas?


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Manually doing CFAdmin Tasks

2005-08-03 Thread Graham Pearson

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I am needing to deploy an application onto tablet computers for K-12
Administrators. I have all of the software required being installed in
Silent Mode and now it is time to configure CFMX.

Does anyone have tips on how to manually go through the Configuration
and Settings Migration Wizard without pulling it up in a browser
window. And then the other areas which I would need to modify manually
would be  Client Variables, Mappings, Mail, DataSources, and Custom
Tag Paths

Any Suggestions greatly appreciated.

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Re: Getting a Date Query to wrap to the next year

2005-08-03 Thread Joe Rinehart

Les,

How about:

WHERE
   event_date = startDATE
   AND event_date  #dateAdd(startDate, m, 3)#

depending on your RDBMS, you should also be able to use DB-specific
to perform the date addition.

-Joe

On 8/3/05, Les Mizzell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've got a calendar on a page that should always show the next three
 months worth of events from the start month you pick from a list. It's
 working great for events in 2005, or if you skip to an event in 2006 it
 will show the next three 2006 months.
 
 The problem I'm having is getting it to wrap from 2005 to 2006. For
 example, if I select December, I should see events for December 2005,
 January, 2006 and Feb 2006. However, it stops at 2005 and won't display
 any 2006 events until I select a month from 2006.  Hope I made that
 confusing enough for everybody...
 
 Here's the query in question:
 
 cfquery name=calendar
 SELECT
  id, event_date, month(event_date) as theMONTH, event_name
  FROM eip_events
 WHERE
  month(event_date) = #month(startDATE)#
  and year(event_date) = #year(startDATE)#
  and event_date  #threemonths#
 ORDER BY event_date,event_time ASC
 /cfquery
 
 
 The problem is cleary with the first WHERE line
 month(event_date) = #month(startDATE)#
 
 Somehow it needs to also say unless it's November or December, then
 wrap the month back around to January of the next year.
 
 Ideas?
 
 
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Re: Getting a Date Query to wrap to the next year

2005-08-03 Thread Al Everett

Try:

WHERE
   event_date = #CreateDate(year(startDATE),month(startDATE),1)#
   and
   event_date  #threemonths#


On 8/3/05, Les Mizzell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've got a calendar on a page that should always show the next three
 months worth of events from the start month you pick from a list. It's
 working great for events in 2005, or if you skip to an event in 2006 it
 will show the next three 2006 months.
 
 The problem I'm having is getting it to wrap from 2005 to 2006. For
 example, if I select December, I should see events for December 2005,
 January, 2006 and Feb 2006. However, it stops at 2005 and won't display
 any 2006 events until I select a month from 2006.  Hope I made that
 confusing enough for everybody...
 
 Here's the query in question:
 
 cfquery name=calendar
 SELECT
  id, event_date, month(event_date) as theMONTH, event_name
  FROM eip_events
 WHERE
  month(event_date) = #month(startDATE)#
  and year(event_date) = #year(startDATE)#
  and event_date  #threemonths#
 ORDER BY event_date,event_time ASC
 /cfquery
 
 
 The problem is cleary with the first WHERE line
 month(event_date) = #month(startDATE)#
 
 Somehow it needs to also say unless it's November or December, then
 wrap the month back around to January of the next year.
 
 Ideas?
 
 
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RE: datasource returns 0 rows via JDBC, !=0 via ASP

2005-08-03 Thread Damien McKenna

  So is there any easy way to set up an other datasource 
 
 Choose that option in the admin, copy the jar into the classpath.

What jar?  I was wondering if its possible to manually recreate the ODBC
bridge using an other manual JDBC connection.

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RE: OMFG its not working - JDBC returning 0 rows

2005-08-03 Thread Damien McKenna

 Are you using the odbc-jdbc bridge or JDBC?

ODBC-JDBC.

I'm going to talk to some people involved to see if they might have some
more ideas on it.  If they don't I'm going to take it to AcuCorp to see
if there's something they might have an idea on.  I believe they have
JDBC drivers, if so I'm going to try them.  There are some things I'm
going to try, there's also a load of variables that are confusing me.

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Re: Getting a Date Query to wrap to the next year

2005-08-03 Thread Les Mizzell

Al Everett wrote:

 WHERE
event_date = #CreateDate(year(startDATE),month(startDATE),1)#
and
event_date  #threemonths#


That did it.  Thanks!


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populate a collection?

2005-08-03 Thread Johnny Le

Hi,

I know that any query object can be used to populate a CUSTOM index, but can we 
use non-query object like a CFC to populate a CUSTOM index?  I believe you can 
do it in CFMX 7, but can it be done in CFMX 6.1?

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Re: Queries Totals

2005-08-03 Thread Patrick Quinn

Well, at $99 a copy ($199 for Enterprise), it's practically free already! ; 
You should hear the .NET folks laugh at us for having such a low-priced tool!

We're seeing hundreds of downloads each month, so the community seems to be 
embracing it pretty enthusiastically. And don't forget there's a free version 
that runs for 2 hours between CF restarts.

More to your point, though, we are looking into releasing some things to the 
community for free where we can. We've written a stack trace analyzer that we 
use a lot in our ColdFusion consulting practice, and we're looking at releasing 
that for community use. SeeStack? Stay tuned. :)

Best,
Patrick

How about you release it for free anyway! It is a well cool tool and I am
sure the community would embrace it ;-)



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To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Queries Totals

Greetings, Michel. SeeFusion will tell you the total number of queries that
ran for a given request (along with a host of other metrics). I know you
asked about queries per template, so not sure if this helps or not, but I
thought I'd throw it out just in case.

More info and a free eval copy available at http://www.seefusion.com.

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cfsqltype and SQL7

2005-08-03 Thread Jeff W

I am wondering about custom data types and cfsqltype. How does CFMX handle 
custom data types from MS SQL 7 when using cfqueryparam?? Do I just use the 
custom data types original type?

Thanks,
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Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2005-08-03 Thread Michael Dinowitz

I'm on it.

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Re: dealer locator

2005-08-03 Thread Matt Robertson

zipcodeworld.com has US, Canada and Mexico.  

But there is no such thing as a worldwide sort of standard for postal
codes.  Just look at the worldwide extended area surcharge tables from
UPS (you can get comma-delimited versions if you look around some) . 
You'll see numeric, alphanumeric and pure alpha strings, along with
many countries with no codes at all.

When I wrote my US-only dealer locator I used zipcodeworld data ($30 I
think) and picked apart another guy's tag and rewrote it.  A lot of
the commercial stuff out there does zip code search with horrible
inefficiency.  You're looking at 30 seconds to execute sometimes. 
What I came up with eventually wound up to be 10-100 times faster than
the commercial stuff I bought.

I put out this tag for free as ZipMonger (properly crediting the
original author) and I have since heard from one guy who took the
zipcodeworld data, which has lat/lon, and made it work with the tag. 
So it can be done.

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Re: ColdFusion Admin Error

2005-08-03 Thread Jeff Houser

Mike (or anyone),

 Here are a few stack traces from the errors I'm seeing in the Coldfusion 
admin.  

From the Settings Page:
Error Occurred While Processing Request 
The system has attempted to use an undefined value, which usually indicates a 
programming error, either in your code or some system code. 

Null Pointers are another name for undefined values. 

 
The error occurred in 
D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\CFIDE\administrator\settings\server_settings.cfm: line 261

Please try the following: 
Check the ColdFusion documentation to verify that you are using the correct 
syntax. 
Search the Knowledge Base to find a solution to your problem. 

Browser   Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)
Remote Address   10.65.6.26
Referrer   [removed]/cfide/administrator/navserver.cfm
Date/Time   03-Aug-05 11:38 AM
Stack Trace (click to expand) 
at 
cfserver_settings2ecfm1504042259._factor6(D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\CFIDE\administrator\settings\server_settings.cfm:261)
 at 
cfserver_settings2ecfm1504042259.runPage(D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\CFIDE\administrator\settings\server_settings.cfm:1)
 


java.lang.NullPointerException
at 
coldfusion.runtime.TemplateClassLoader.newInstance(TemplateClassLoader.java:327)
at coldfusion.tagext.lang.IncludeTag.setTemplate(IncludeTag.java:142)
at coldfusion.tagext.lang.ModuleTag.setTemplate(ModuleTag.java:529)
at coldfusion.tagext.lang.ModuleTag.setTemplatePath(ModuleTag.java:180)
at coldfusion.tagext.lang.ImportedTag.setName(ImportedTag.java:27)
at 
cfserver_settings2ecfm1504042259._factor6(D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\CFIDE\administrator\settings\server_settings.cfm:261)
at 
cfserver_settings2ecfm1504042259.runPage(D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\CFIDE\administrator\settings\server_settings.cfm:1)
at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage.invoke(CfJspPage.java:147)
at coldfusion.tagext.lang.IncludeTag.doStartTag(IncludeTag.java:357)
at coldfusion.filter.CfincludeFilter.invoke(CfincludeFilter.java:62)
at 
coldfusion.filter.ApplicationFilter.invoke(ApplicationFilter.java:107)
at 
coldfusion.filter.RequestMonitorFilter.invoke(RequestMonitorFilter.java:43)
at coldfusion.filter.PathFilter.invoke(PathFilter.java:80)
at coldfusion.filter.ExceptionFilter.invoke(ExceptionFilter.java:47)
at 
coldfusion.filter.BrowserDebugFilter.invoke(BrowserDebugFilter.java:52)
at 
coldfusion.filter.ClientScopePersistenceFilter.invoke(ClientScopePersistenceFilter.java:28)
at coldfusion.filter.BrowserFilter.invoke(BrowserFilter.java:35)
at coldfusion.filter.GlobalsFilter.invoke(GlobalsFilter.java:43)
at coldfusion.filter.DatasourceFilter.invoke(DatasourceFilter.java:22)
at coldfusion.CfmServlet.service(CfmServlet.java:105)
at 
coldfusion.bootstrap.BootstrapServlet.service(BootstrapServlet.java:89)
at jrun.servlet.ServletInvoker.invoke(ServletInvoker.java:91)
at jrun.servlet.JRunInvokerChain.invokeNext(JRunInvokerChain.java:42)
at 
jrun.servlet.JRunRequestDispatcher.invoke(JRunRequestDispatcher.java:257)
at 
jrun.servlet.ServletEngineService.dispatch(ServletEngineService.java:541)
at 
jrun.servlet.jrpp.JRunProxyService.invokeRunnable(JRunProxyService.java:204)
at 
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:426)
at jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:66)



From the datasource page

Error Occurred While Processing Request 
The system has attempted to use an undefined value, which usually indicates a 
programming error, either in your code or some system code. 

Null Pointers are another name for undefined values. 

 
The error occurred in 
D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\CFIDE\administrator\datasources\index.cfm: line 148
Called from D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\CFIDE\administrator\datasources\index.cfm: line 
147
Called from D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\CFIDE\administrator\datasources\index.cfm: line 1

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Re: dealer locator

2005-08-03 Thread Matt Robertson

oops.  I meant to say that the guy I heard from made the tag work with
CANADIAN data.  The ZipMonger tag uses U.S. lat/lon data.

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Cfobject Excel Com

2005-08-03 Thread CHANCE, JENNIFER M. (JSC-BJ) (BAS)

I am trying to create an Excel COM object.
 

CFTRY
!--- If it exists, connect to it ---
CFOBJECT ACTION=CONNECT CLASS=Excel.Application NAME=objExcel
TYPE=COM
  CFCATCH
!--- The object doesn't exist, so create it ---
CFOBJECT ACTION=CREATE CLASS=Excel.Application NAME=objExcel
TYPE=COM
  /CFCATCH
/CFTRY

And I get this error:


An exception occurred when instantiating a Com object.  
The cause of this exception was that:
coldfusion.runtime.java.JavaObjectInstantiationException: Object
Instantiation Exception..  

10 :   CFCATCH
11 : !--- The object doesn't exist, so create it ---
12 : CFOBJECT ACTION=CREATE CLASS=Excel.Application NAME=objExcel
TYPE=COM
13 :   /CFCATCH
14 : /CFTRY

Does anyone know what is going wrong?

Thanks,

Jen

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PDF to PDF Comparison

2005-08-03 Thread Brian Polackoff

Is there any way to compare to PDF's and determine their difference as far
as content goes?

 

Any ideas would be appreciated.

 

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RE: PDF to PDF Comparison

2005-08-03 Thread Damien McKenna

 Is there any way to compare to PDF's and determine their 
 difference as far as content goes?

If its textual content you could try converting them both to text and
comparing it.  There are several (cheap) utilities for doing that
conversion.  I'm not sure how you'd be able to tell image abc was moved
20 pixels left and stuff like that.

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RE: ColdFusion Admin Error

2005-08-03 Thread Mike Nimer

Can you try this, blow away all the compiled classes in your
web-inf/cfclasses, restart, and try the admin again.

---nimer

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 11:46 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: ColdFusion Admin Error

Mike (or anyone),

 Here are a few stack traces from the errors I'm seeing in the
Coldfusion admin.  

From the Settings Page:
Error Occurred While Processing Request 
The system has attempted to use an undefined value, which usually
indicates a programming error, either in your code or some system code. 

Null Pointers are another name for undefined values. 

The error occurred in
D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\CFIDE\administrator\settings\server_settings.cfm:
line 261

Please try the following: 
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correct syntax. 
Search the Knowledge Base to find a solution to your problem. 

Browser   Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)
Remote Address   10.65.6.26
Referrer   [removed]/cfide/administrator/navserver.cfm
Date/Time   03-Aug-05 11:38 AM
Stack Trace (click to expand) 
at
cfserver_settings2ecfm1504042259._factor6(D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\CFIDE\admin
istrator\settings\server_settings.cfm:261) at
cfserver_settings2ecfm1504042259.runPage(D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\CFIDE\admini
strator\settings\server_settings.cfm:1) 

java.lang.NullPointerException
at
coldfusion.runtime.TemplateClassLoader.newInstance(TemplateClassLoader.j
ava:327)
at
coldfusion.tagext.lang.IncludeTag.setTemplate(IncludeTag.java:142)
at
coldfusion.tagext.lang.ModuleTag.setTemplate(ModuleTag.java:529)
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RE: PDF to PDF Comparison

2005-08-03 Thread Brian Polackoff

Great, converting the pdf to text is not a problem, do you know of any links
to the tools you were referencing? 

Thanks,
Brian R. Polackoff

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Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 12:21 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: PDF to PDF Comparison

 Is there any way to compare to PDF's and determine their 
 difference as far as content goes?

If its textual content you could try converting them both to text and
comparing it.  There are several (cheap) utilities for doing that
conversion.  I'm not sure how you'd be able to tell image abc was moved
20 pixels left and stuff like that.

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Re: populate a collection?

2005-08-03 Thread Raymond Camden

No, it must be a query, or static values. Ie, you can update one
record at a time w/ specific values. So, actually, I guess you could
use a CFC, but not directly. If the CFC has methods that return
strings, you can use them.

On 8/3/05, Johnny Le [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I know that any query object can be used to populate a CUSTOM index, but can 
 we use non-query object like a CFC to populate a CUSTOM index?  I believe you 
 can do it in CFMX 7, but can it be done in CFMX 6.1?
 
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RE: Cfobject Excel Com

2005-08-03 Thread Dan G. Switzer, II

Jen,

While not a direct answer to your question, I'd recommend you look into
using jExcelApi (http://www.andykhan.com/jexcelapi/.) It's a pure Java API
for reading/writing Excel files. It's pretty easy to write a CFC wrapper for
it.

COM support in CFMX isn't all that great and many COM objects are unusable
or may cause instability in your application (this is obviously very
case-by-case scenario.)

-Dan

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From: CHANCE, JENNIFER M. (JSC-BJ) (BAS)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 12:04 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Cfobject Excel Com

I am trying to create an Excel COM object.


CFTRY
!--- If it exists, connect to it ---
CFOBJECT ACTION=CONNECT CLASS=Excel.Application NAME=objExcel
TYPE=COM
  CFCATCH
!--- The object doesn't exist, so create it ---
CFOBJECT ACTION=CREATE CLASS=Excel.Application NAME=objExcel
TYPE=COM
  /CFCATCH
/CFTRY

And I get this error:


An exception occurred when instantiating a Com object.
The cause of this exception was that:
coldfusion.runtime.java.JavaObjectInstantiationException: Object
Instantiation Exception..

10 :   CFCATCH
11 : !--- The object doesn't exist, so create it ---
12 : CFOBJECT ACTION=CREATE CLASS=Excel.Application
NAME=objExcel
TYPE=COM
13 :   /CFCATCH
14 : /CFTRY

Does anyone know what is going wrong?

Thanks,

Jen



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unable to create new native thread

2005-08-03 Thread Rick Root

So I've got a client with a site at Smarterlinux.com, and they recently 
came across this error:

unable to create new native thread

No other real details except that it occurred while attempting to run a 
cfquery that is perfectly normal and has always worked before and still 
does work - I cannot duplicate the error right now.

I assume that it was a temporary issue, but I wondered what might've 
caused it.

I suspect that it's just server overload.

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Re: populate a collection?

2005-08-03 Thread Johnny Le

yah, that is what I mean by using cfc.
Like
cfindex action=update collection=x type=custom 
key=#myObject.getKeyID()# custom1=#myobject.getTitle()# 
custom2=#myobject.getName()# 
body=#myobject.getTitle()#,#myobject.getName()#/

The problem is that it doesn't seem to work.  I keep getting empty results when 
I try to search on it.  It works fine when I tried populating it by queries.  
Am I missing some attributes?

Johnny

 No, it must be a query, or static values. Ie, you can update one
 record at a time w/ specific values. So, actually, I guess you could
 use a CFC, but not directly. If the CFC has methods that return
 strings, you can use them.
 
 On 8/3/05, Johnny Le [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I know that any query object can be used to populate a CUSTOM index, 
 but can we use non-query object like a CFC to populate a CUSTOM index?  
 I believe you can do it in CFMX 7, but can it be done in CFMX 6.1?
  
  Johnny
  
  

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Re: unable to create new native thread

2005-08-03 Thread Douglas Knudsen

http://www.google.com/search?hs=8ZMhl=enlr=client=firefox-arls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficialq=%22unable+to+create+new+native+thread%22+coldfusionbtnG=Search

out of threads.  could be a number of reasons: long running requests,
low thread setting, etc


DK

On 8/3/05, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So I've got a client with a site at Smarterlinux.com, and they recently
 came across this error:
 
 unable to create new native thread
 
 No other real details except that it occurred while attempting to run a
 cfquery that is perfectly normal and has always worked before and still
 does work - I cannot duplicate the error right now.
 
 I assume that it was a temporary issue, but I wondered what might've
 caused it.
 
 I suspect that it's just server overload.
 
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OT: Opening AS files in HS+

2005-08-03 Thread Rick Root

Is it safe to open actionscript files in Homesite+?

Whenever I do, there always seems to be a few funky characters at the 
beginning of the file and I've been afraid to save my changes.

Rick


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OT - Zorn or OpenLaszlo

2005-08-03 Thread Chuck Mason

Sorry if this is an off-topic subject but - was reading up on what Zorn was 
all about when I saw details about OpenLaszlo and I have to admin, I'm quite 
amazed.  Have either of you checked out OpenLaszlo and/or used it with your 
CF apps?  http://www.laszlosystems.com/developers/platform/ 

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Re: populate a collection?

2005-08-03 Thread Raymond Camden

Use the new result=foo attributes, and cfudmp foo. This tells you
what went on. If there was a problem, this would tell you.

On 8/3/05, Johnny Le [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 yah, that is what I mean by using cfc.
 Like
 cfindex action=update collection=x type=custom 
 key=#myObject.getKeyID()# custom1=#myobject.getTitle()# 
 custom2=#myobject.getName()# 
 body=#myobject.getTitle()#,#myobject.getName()#/
 
 The problem is that it doesn't seem to work.  I keep getting empty results 
 when I try to search on it.  It works fine when I tried populating it by 
 queries.  Am I missing some attributes?
 
 Johnny
 
  No, it must be a query, or static values. Ie, you can update one
  record at a time w/ specific values. So, actually, I guess you could
  use a CFC, but not directly. If the CFC has methods that return
  strings, you can use them.
 
  On 8/3/05, Johnny Le [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi,
  
   I know that any query object can be used to populate a CUSTOM index,
  but can we use non-query object like a CFC to populate a CUSTOM index?
  I believe you can do it in CFMX 7, but can it be done in CFMX 6.1?
  
   Johnny
  
  
 
 

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RE: Opening AS files in HS+

2005-08-03 Thread Kevin Aebig

What did you use to generate the AS files? Have the jumped from Mac to PC?

In either case, AS files are straight text, so don't be afraid to delete
unneeded characters...

Cheers,

Kevin

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To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: Opening AS files in HS+

Is it safe to open actionscript files in Homesite+?

Whenever I do, there always seems to be a few funky characters at the 
beginning of the file and I've been afraid to save my changes.

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Re: unable to create new native thread

2005-08-03 Thread Rick Root

Douglas Knudsen wrote:
 http://www.google.com/search?hs=8ZMhl=enlr=client=firefox-arls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficialq=%22unable+to+create+new+native+thread%22+coldfusionbtnG=Search
 
 out of threads.  could be a number of reasons: long running requests,
 low thread setting, etc

Thanks.  I did that exact google search before posting my question.

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Re: OT - Zorn or OpenLaszlo

2005-08-03 Thread Ken Ferguson

I don't think the two are eligible for comparison. Zorn is going to be 
the new Flex deveopment IDE. OpenLaszlo is not an IDE. There's an 
eclipse plugin to develop Laszlo apps and that could be compared and 
contrasted with Flex Builder or Zorn. However, asking Zorn or OpenLaszlo 
is like asking ColdFusion Studio or PHP. If you are going to deploy Flex 
apps, you will most likely be using Flex Builder and then Zorn when it 
comes out. If you're going to deploy Open Laszlo apps, you'll most 
likely use Eclipse or some other editor.

--Ferg



Chuck Mason wrote:

Sorry if this is an off-topic subject but - was reading up on what Zorn was 
all about when I saw details about OpenLaszlo and I have to admin, I'm quite 
amazed.  Have either of you checked out OpenLaszlo and/or used it with your 
CF apps?  http://www.laszlosystems.com/developers/platform/ 

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Re: populate a collection?

2005-08-03 Thread Johnny Le

I am using CFMX 6.1.  Does the result attribute available in CFMX 6.1?  I 
thought that is CFMX 7 feature.

I tried using cfsearch and leave the criteria blank and I got blank when I 
cfdump it.

Johnny


Use the new result=foo attributes, and cfudmp foo. This tells you
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Re: Opening AS files in HS+

2005-08-03 Thread Rick Root

Kevin Aebig wrote:
 What did you use to generate the AS files? Have the jumped from Mac to PC?

Flash MX 2004 for Windows, and I'm still on Windows, same machine.

 In either case, AS files are straight text, so don't be afraid to delete
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Open Lazlo vs. Flex

2005-08-03 Thread Bryan Stevenson

Pardon me if this vs thread has already happened ;-)

So which is easiest for a CFer to learn?  How steep is the learning curve?

Is it fair to say that both are basically a tag based version of ActionScript 
(broad picture...not a feature by feature comparison)?  if not why?

Anything else useful to a CFer looking into these?

TIA

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Re: Cfobject Excel Com

2005-08-03 Thread J Chance

Jen,

While not a direct answer to your question, I'd recommend you look into
using jExcelApi (http://www.andykhan.com/jexcelapi/.) It's a pure Java API
for reading/writing Excel files. It's pretty easy to write a CFC wrapper for
it.

COM support in CFMX isn't all that great and many COM objects are unusable
or may cause instability in your application (this is obviously very
case-by-case scenario.)

-Dan



Thanks Dan, 


I've been looking at this since you posted.  Does this have to done by a server 
admin or can I just put this in my folder where I am coding?  (so much harder 
to deal with an admin) 

Also... can you tell me a bit more about a CFC wrapper and how that would work?

Thanks, 

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Re: unable to create new native thread

2005-08-03 Thread Douglas Knudsen

lol!  didn't mean to be all RTFMish, sorry 'bout that.  Check out pete
fietag's blog too, he has some good stuffs on this sort of thing. 
I've seen it occur quite abit once until I got things tuned up. 
http://www.petefreitag.com/

DK

On 8/3/05, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Douglas Knudsen wrote:
  http://www.google.com/search?hs=8ZMhl=enlr=client=firefox-arls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficialq=%22unable+to+create+new+native+thread%22+coldfusionbtnG=Search
 
  out of threads.  could be a number of reasons: long running requests,
  low thread setting, etc
 
 Thanks.  I did that exact google search before posting my question.
 
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Re: Open Lazlo vs. Flex

2005-08-03 Thread Bryan Stevenson

OK...so I've taken the Lazlo 10 minute demovery cool stuff, but I'm left 
wondering how it fits into the CF world.

The demo shows how to accomplish some great UI stuff, and some data binding 
and data usage.but what's missing is conditional logic and data 
inserts/updates etc.

Can anyone fill in the holes?

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- Original Message - 
From: Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 11:25 AM
Subject: Open Lazlo vs. Flex


 Pardon me if this vs thread has already happened ;-)

 So which is easiest for a CFer to learn?  How steep is the learning curve?

 Is it fair to say that both are basically a tag based version of 
 ActionScript (broad picture...not a feature by feature comparison)?  if 
 not why?

 Anything else useful to a CFer looking into these?

 TIA

 Cheers

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Re: unable to create new native thread

2005-08-03 Thread Rick Root

Douglas Knudsen wrote:
 lol!  didn't mean to be all RTFMish, sorry 'bout that.  Check out pete
 fietag's blog too, he has some good stuffs on this sort of thing. 
 I've seen it occur quite abit once until I got things tuned up. 
 http://www.petefreitag.com/

That's okay =)

I decided the talking tree one was good enough to reference when I 
called SmarterLinux to open a support ticket.

I'll check out Pete's entry too.

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Re: Open Lazlo vs. Flex

2005-08-03 Thread Ken Ferguson

**Qualifying statement: I'm an expert on neither Flex nor Laszlo. I am 
answering from what I've heard and read added to my limited experience 
actually using both Flex and Laszlo to build test applications.

One thing to note right off the bat is that I believe the Laszlo apps 
compile to the Flash 5 format, thus cannot utilize the features of AS 2, 
but they will play on a few more browsers. I'm not sure that the number 
of supported users is a really important distinction since the vast 
majority of machines out there have the latest player, but it is 
something to think of if you're worried about it. From everything I've 
heard/read, Flex is much, much easier and quicker to develop. In Laszlo 
apps, lzx files are composed of their xml-based mark-up and javascript, 
whereas the Flex markup seems more familiar to the CF developer who's 
learned some basic AS. For a CF developer, Flex would seem much more 
simple to learn too, owing to the familiarity with MM products on the 
whole and the (in my opinion) vastly superior documentation. 
Furthermore, many of the developers using Flex are the same developers 
you've been talking CF with for several years, which makes it a lot 
easier to know whom you need to seek out when you have a question. In 
fact, while I don't have numbers to back up my supposition, I'd venture 
to guess that the vast majority of people developing Flex apps are also 
CF developers or at least Flash developers with a fair amount of CF 
knowledge. I have not found this at all to be the case with Laszlo 
developers.

Of course, even if I could list points 50:1 in favor of Flex, it's still 
priced *WELL* out of the reach of most while Laszlo is free. I wish my 
company could afford Flex, as I'd jump on it with both feet. As it 
stands though, my limited work with the free developer version is likely 
to be my last/only chance to work with it. MM has decided that they'd 
rather go elsewhere with the product and has priced it ludicrously high. 
(and yes, I am very bitter about that)

--Ferg




Bryan Stevenson wrote:

Pardon me if this vs thread has already happened ;-)

So which is easiest for a CFer to learn?  How steep is the learning curve?

Is it fair to say that both are basically a tag based version of ActionScript 
(broad picture...not a feature by feature comparison)?  if not why?

Anything else useful to a CFer looking into these?

TIA

Cheers

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fax: 250.480.1264
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Re: populate a collection?

2005-08-03 Thread Raymond Camden

Ah shoot, hmm. I may be wrong then about using a non query value. Try
creating a new query using QueryNew. Put in your data. Try again. If
it works, this may be just a CFMX7 change then (allowing direct values
instead of a query).

On 8/3/05, Johnny Le [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am using CFMX 6.1.  Does the result attribute available in CFMX 6.1?  I 
 thought that is CFMX 7 feature.
 
 I tried using cfsearch and leave the criteria blank and I got blank when I 
 cfdump it.
 
 Johnny
 
 
 Use the new result=foo attributes, and cfudmp foo. This tells you
 what went on. If there was a problem, this would tell you.
 
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Re: PDF to PDF Comparison

2005-08-03 Thread John Dowdell

Brian Polackoff wrote:
 Is there any way to compare to PDF's and determine their difference as far
 as content goes? Any ideas would be appreciated.

I'm assuming that you need to do this during development on your 
workstation, rather than during delivery on your server... is this 
assumption correct?

If so, then the full version of Adobe Acrobat offers a Compare Pages 
command... here's a description from the docs:
The Compare Pages command in Acrobat compares every page in two
documents, looking at PDF information that describes the pages precisely 
to find even the most subtle differences between pages. You can use 
Compare Pages to identify both content changes between documents and 
changes that may not be visible.
http://www.adobe.com/education/pdf/cib/acrobat5/acrobat5_cib_lesson5.pdf
(page 128)

This diagnostic tool isn't in the free Adobe Reader plugin for browsers, 
but is in the Adobe Acrobat 7.0 Professional document development package:
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobatpro/main.html
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/pdfs/acro7_matrix.pdf

Is this what you're looking for? or...?

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Re: Open Lazlo vs. Flex

2005-08-03 Thread Douglas Knudsen

On 8/3/05, Ken Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 **Qualifying statement: I'm an expert on neither Flex nor Laszlo. I am
 answering from what I've heard and read added to my limited experience
 actually using both Flex and Laszlo to build test applications.
 
 One thing to note right off the bat is that I believe the Laszlo apps
 compile to the Flash 5 format, thus cannot utilize the features of AS 2,
 but they will play on a few more browsers. I'm not sure that the number
 of supported users is a really important distinction since the vast
 majority of machines out there have the latest player, but it is
 something to think of if you're worried about it. From everything I've
 heard/read, Flex is much, much easier and quicker to develop. In Laszlo
 apps, lzx files are composed of their xml-based mark-up and javascript,
 whereas the Flex markup seems more familiar to the CF developer who's
 learned some basic AS. For a CF developer, Flex would seem much more
 simple to learn too, owing to the familiarity with MM products on the
 whole and the (in my opinion) vastly superior documentation.
 Furthermore, many of the developers using Flex are the same developers
 you've been talking CF with for several years, which makes it a lot
 easier to know whom you need to seek out when you have a question. In
 fact, while I don't have numbers to back up my supposition, I'd venture
 to guess that the vast majority of people developing Flex apps are also
 CF developers or at least Flash developers with a fair amount of CF
 knowledge. I have not found this at all to be the case with Laszlo
 developers.

actually I have found more folks so far are J2EE types, at least on
the flexcoders list.  Yes, many CFrs are joining in, my self included.
 see sites like cflex.org for example.  If you think Flex is too
costly, certainly Flex with CF is too costly, eh?  Another reason to
go J2EE in the backendmy $0.2

DK



 
 Of course, even if I could list points 50:1 in favor of Flex, it's still
 priced *WELL* out of the reach of most while Laszlo is free. I wish my
 company could afford Flex, as I'd jump on it with both feet. As it
 stands though, my limited work with the free developer version is likely
 to be my last/only chance to work with it. MM has decided that they'd
 rather go elsewhere with the product and has priced it ludicrously high.
 (and yes, I am very bitter about that)
 
 --Ferg
 
 
 
 
 Bryan Stevenson wrote:
 
 Pardon me if this vs thread has already happened ;-)
 
 So which is easiest for a CFer to learn?  How steep is the learning curve?
 
 Is it fair to say that both are basically a tag based version of 
 ActionScript (broad picture...not a feature by feature comparison)?  if not 
 why?
 
 Anything else useful to a CFer looking into these?
 
 TIA
 
 Cheers
 
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Re: Open Lazlo vs. Flex

2005-08-03 Thread Bryan Stevenson

OK...I'm still missing the bigger picture

As I said already...the Lazlo demo leads me to belive it's only for UI 
coding (although there is talk of databut via XML only).

So does Lazlo (and Flex) have an equivalent of:
-database interaction (CFQUERY)
-conditional logic (CFIF/CFCASE)

Or perhaps even simplercan either of these do what CF can do (i.e. build 
an entire application) or are they more for the interface side of things and 
then levergae J2EE or CF for the rest of the app?

TIA

Cheers

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Re: Open Lazlo vs. Flex

2005-08-03 Thread Matt Woodward

OK...I'm still missing the bigger picture

As I said already...the Lazlo demo leads me to belive it's only for UI 
coding (although there is talk of databut via XML only).

Flex and Laszlo are both presentation servers, so yes, they only deal with the 
front end and presentation of data.


So does Lazlo (and Flex) have an equivalent of:
-database interaction (CFQUERY)
-conditional logic (CFIF/CFCASE)

No, and yes. ;-)  Database interaction is done through another technology such 
as CF, for example.  Laszlo and Flex don't talk directly to the 
database--that's not their job.  Using ActionScript in Flex you can of course 
do all sorts of logic on the scripting side.  I *believe* Flex uses JavaScript 
as its scripting language, so whatever you can do in JS would apply to Laszlo.

Or perhaps even simplercan either of these do what CF can do (i.e. build 
an entire application) or are they more for the interface side of things and 
then levergae J2EE or CF for the rest of the app?

Depends on what your app needs to do.  You CAN build entire apps in Flex or 
Laszlo, but without a database behind them, I'm not sure how useful they'd be.

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RE: Open Lazlo vs. Flex

2005-08-03 Thread Damien McKenna

 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 One thing to note right off the bat is that I believe the Laszlo
 apps compile to the Flash 5 format, thus cannot utilize the
 features of AS 2,

You need to look at OpenLaszlo 3, it supports Flash 6.

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RE: Open Lazlo vs. Flex

2005-08-03 Thread Trevor Orr

But if you can do ActionScript in Flex then can you not call CF remoting
components to access database then?

-Original Message-
From: Matt Woodward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 1:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Open Lazlo vs. Flex

OK...I'm still missing the bigger picture

As I said already...the Lazlo demo leads me to belive it's only for UI 
coding (although there is talk of databut via XML only).

Flex and Laszlo are both presentation servers, so yes, they only deal
with the front end and presentation of data.

So does Lazlo (and Flex) have an equivalent of:
-database interaction (CFQUERY)
-conditional logic (CFIF/CFCASE)

No, and yes. ;-)  Database interaction is done through another
technology such as CF, for example.  Laszlo and Flex don't talk directly
to the database--that's not their job.  Using ActionScript in Flex you
can of course do all sorts of logic on the scripting side.  I *believe*
Flex uses JavaScript as its scripting language, so whatever you can do
in JS would apply to Laszlo.

Or perhaps even simplercan either of these do what CF can do (i.e. 
build an entire application) or are they more for the interface side of

things and then levergae J2EE or CF for the rest of the app?

Depends on what your app needs to do.  You CAN build entire apps in Flex
or Laszlo, but without a database behind them, I'm not sure how useful
they'd be.

Matt

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Re: Open Lazlo vs. Flex

2005-08-03 Thread Chris Peters

While we're mentioning J2EE, I noticed that OpenLaszlo now can be installed as 
a WAR file on a J2EE app server.

I had ditched the idea of installing OpenLaszlo earlier because I didn't want 
to deal with installing it on Tomcat.  But now it's possible to install it as a 
JRun app.

- Chris Peters

OK...I'm still missing the bigger picture

As I said already...the Lazlo demo leads me to belive it's only for UI 
coding (although there is talk of databut via XML only).

So does Lazlo (and Flex) have an equivalent of:
-database interaction (CFQUERY)
-conditional logic (CFIF/CFCASE)

Or perhaps even simplercan either of these do what CF can do (i.e. build 
an entire application) or are they more for the interface side of things and 
then levergae J2EE or CF for the rest of the app?

TIA

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Re: Open Lazlo vs. Flex

2005-08-03 Thread Douglas Knudsen

Flex is UI level with the Flex server providing gateways to back end
stuff, one way to put it at least.So yes, Flex has no DB
interaction like CF does.  Flex uses AS2, so has a standard
programming model and all.  You got it in your last sentence.

DK

On 8/3/05, Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OK...I'm still missing the bigger picture
 
 As I said already...the Lazlo demo leads me to belive it's only for UI
 coding (although there is talk of databut via XML only).
 
 So does Lazlo (and Flex) have an equivalent of:
 -database interaction (CFQUERY)
 -conditional logic (CFIF/CFCASE)
 
 Or perhaps even simplercan either of these do what CF can do (i.e. build
 an entire application) or are they more for the interface side of things and
 then levergae J2EE or CF for the rest of the app?
 
 TIA
 
 Cheers
 
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Re: Open Lazlo vs. Flex

2005-08-03 Thread Bryan Stevenson

Thanks Mattthat's the big picture I was after.and confirms that 
I'm not off my nut ;-)

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- Original Message - 
From: Matt Woodward [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: Open Lazlo vs. Flex


 OK...I'm still missing the bigger picture

As I said already...the Lazlo demo leads me to belive it's only for UI
coding (although there is talk of databut via XML only).

 Flex and Laszlo are both presentation servers, so yes, they only deal with 
 the front end and presentation of data.


So does Lazlo (and Flex) have an equivalent of:
-database interaction (CFQUERY)
-conditional logic (CFIF/CFCASE)

 No, and yes. ;-)  Database interaction is done through another technology 
 such as CF, for example.  Laszlo and Flex don't talk directly to the 
 database--that's not their job.  Using ActionScript in Flex you can of 
 course do all sorts of logic on the scripting side.  I *believe* Flex uses 
 JavaScript as its scripting language, so whatever you can do in JS would 
 apply to Laszlo.

Or perhaps even simplercan either of these do what CF can do (i.e. 
build
an entire application) or are they more for the interface side of things 
and
then levergae J2EE or CF for the rest of the app?

 Depends on what your app needs to do.  You CAN build entire apps in Flex 
 or Laszlo, but without a database behind them, I'm not sure how useful 
 they'd be.

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Re: Open Lazlo vs. Flex

2005-08-03 Thread Ken Ferguson

You need to use some sort of scripting language to handle all of your 
data interaction and processing. You tie Flex or Laszlo to your 
components/web services, but they just sit in front of your application 
and allow you to generate a rich user interface.

--Ferg

Bryan Stevenson wrote:

OK...I'm still missing the bigger picture

As I said already...the Lazlo demo leads me to belive it's only for UI 
coding (although there is talk of databut via XML only).

So does Lazlo (and Flex) have an equivalent of:
-database interaction (CFQUERY)
-conditional logic (CFIF/CFCASE)

Or perhaps even simplercan either of these do what CF can do (i.e. build 
an entire application) or are they more for the interface side of things and 
then levergae J2EE or CF for the rest of the app?

TIA

Cheers

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RE: Open Lazlo vs. Flex

2005-08-03 Thread Kevin Aebig

I personally think both are a waste of time. I like the idea that's been
suggested with Zorn, but that remains to be seen...

The biggest advantages offered by Flash are:

- Dynamic Capabilities
- Lightweight
- Extremely Interactive
- Browser Persistence

The first 3 of these advantages can be squashed by bad developers and bad
practices, which happens frequently unfortunately. The last is lost once
page refreshes come back into the picture through dynamic Flash compiling.

I understand the need to get a broader market share to expand the Flash
Platform, but I'm not positive that different IDE's pumping out different
content, compiling to the same byte code is the best course of action.

@@ Cents

Cheers,

Kevin


-Original Message-
From: Douglas Knudsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: August 3, 2005 1:44 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Open Lazlo vs. Flex

On 8/3/05, Ken Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 **Qualifying statement: I'm an expert on neither Flex nor Laszlo. I am
 answering from what I've heard and read added to my limited experience
 actually using both Flex and Laszlo to build test applications.
 
 One thing to note right off the bat is that I believe the Laszlo apps
 compile to the Flash 5 format, thus cannot utilize the features of AS 2,
 but they will play on a few more browsers. I'm not sure that the number
 of supported users is a really important distinction since the vast
 majority of machines out there have the latest player, but it is
 something to think of if you're worried about it. From everything I've
 heard/read, Flex is much, much easier and quicker to develop. In Laszlo
 apps, lzx files are composed of their xml-based mark-up and javascript,
 whereas the Flex markup seems more familiar to the CF developer who's
 learned some basic AS. For a CF developer, Flex would seem much more
 simple to learn too, owing to the familiarity with MM products on the
 whole and the (in my opinion) vastly superior documentation.
 Furthermore, many of the developers using Flex are the same developers
 you've been talking CF with for several years, which makes it a lot
 easier to know whom you need to seek out when you have a question. In
 fact, while I don't have numbers to back up my supposition, I'd venture
 to guess that the vast majority of people developing Flex apps are also
 CF developers or at least Flash developers with a fair amount of CF
 knowledge. I have not found this at all to be the case with Laszlo
 developers.

actually I have found more folks so far are J2EE types, at least on
the flexcoders list.  Yes, many CFrs are joining in, my self included.
 see sites like cflex.org for example.  If you think Flex is too
costly, certainly Flex with CF is too costly, eh?  Another reason to
go J2EE in the backendmy $0.2

DK



 
 Of course, even if I could list points 50:1 in favor of Flex, it's still
 priced *WELL* out of the reach of most while Laszlo is free. I wish my
 company could afford Flex, as I'd jump on it with both feet. As it
 stands though, my limited work with the free developer version is likely
 to be my last/only chance to work with it. MM has decided that they'd
 rather go elsewhere with the product and has priced it ludicrously high.
 (and yes, I am very bitter about that)
 
 --Ferg
 
 
 
 
 Bryan Stevenson wrote:
 
 Pardon me if this vs thread has already happened ;-)
 
 So which is easiest for a CFer to learn?  How steep is the learning
curve?
 
 Is it fair to say that both are basically a tag based version of
ActionScript (broad picture...not a feature by feature comparison)?  if not
why?
 
 Anything else useful to a CFer looking into these?
 
 TIA
 
 Cheers
 
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Re: OT: Opening AS files in HS+

2005-08-03 Thread Douglas Knudsen

I can without seeing this.  Were these as files created on a *nix
platform maybe?

FYI, there is a plugin or two for as files for eclipse :)

DK

On 8/3/05, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is it safe to open actionscript files in Homesite+?
 
 Whenever I do, there always seems to be a few funky characters at the
 beginning of the file and I've been afraid to save my changes.
 
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RE: Open Lazlo vs. Flex

2005-08-03 Thread dave

well one of the big advantages of flex is that you can use remoting, web 
services, xml whatever very easily, actually it's kinda sick how easy it is and 
you dont have that with laszlo.

 Also laszlo seems to always be publishing at least 2 versions of flash behind 
the current version and if you are making RIA's of the future then this should 
be of great importance to you.

 Then with laszlo if you need support be prepared to buy it and it's not cheap.

 Laszlo also doesnt support the same type of customization especially with 
components that flex does so if you need a completely custom or fitting look 
then flex is the choice.

 Flex is part of the whole flash platform and being able to run actionscript in 
it is obviously a great advantage plus all the other products you can use with 
it.

 There was something about laszlo on shared servers that was hidious but I cant 
recall what it was but I wouldn't plan on using it on a shared server and if u 
can afford flex then you wont be on a shared server.

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From: Trevor Orr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 4:13 PM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: RE: Open Lazlo vs. Flex 

But if you can do ActionScript in Flex then can you not call CF remoting
components to access database then?

-Original Message-
From: Matt Woodward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 1:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Open Lazlo vs. Flex

OK...I'm still missing the bigger picture

As I said already...the Lazlo demo leads me to belive it's only for UI 
coding (although there is talk of databut via XML only).

Flex and Laszlo are both presentation servers, so yes, they only deal
with the front end and presentation of data.


So does Lazlo (and Flex) have an equivalent of:
-database interaction (CFQUERY)
-conditional logic (CFIF/CFCASE)

No, and yes. ;-) Database interaction is done through another
technology such as CF, for example. Laszlo and Flex don't talk directly
to the database--that's not their job. Using ActionScript in Flex you
can of course do all sorts of logic on the scripting side. I *believe*
Flex uses JavaScript as its scripting language, so whatever you can do
in JS would apply to Laszlo.

Or perhaps even simplercan either of these do what CF can do (i.e. 
build an entire application) or are they more for the interface side of

things and then levergae J2EE or CF for the rest of the app?

Depends on what your app needs to do. You CAN build entire apps in Flex
or Laszlo, but without a database behind them, I'm not sure how useful
they'd be.

Matt



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RE: Open Lazlo vs. Flex

2005-08-03 Thread dave

that's still 2 versions behind (since i hear we will have flash 8 here next 
week)

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From: Damien McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 4:09 PM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: RE: Open Lazlo vs. Flex 

 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 One thing to note right off the bat is that I believe the Laszlo
 apps compile to the Flash 5 format, thus cannot utilize the
 features of AS 2,

You need to look at OpenLaszlo 3, it supports Flash 6.

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Re: Open Lazlo vs. Flex

2005-08-03 Thread Bryan Stevenson

I personally think both are a waste of time. I like the idea that's been
 suggested with Zorn, but that remains to be seen...

 The biggest advantages offered by Flash are:

 - Dynamic Capabilities
 - Lightweight
 - Extremely Interactive
 - Browser Persistence

I hear ya Kevin.but what I've seen in my career so far (no matter how 
much it matters to me to build apps correctly and make them maintainable 
etc.).is that a pretty picture often makes the saleso a (pardon the 
pun) Flashy UI with moving widgets and lots of colours has that wow factor 
that as we as developers know doesn't matter.but often makes the sale 
when showing to the decision makers (i.e. Dilbert's boss...hehe).

Of course even with a nice rich UI...I will always stick to my own 
development standards ;-)

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Re: Open Lazlo vs. Flex

2005-08-03 Thread Ken Ferguson

I believe the Laszlo on shared servers thing you were trying to think 
of is the fact that Laszlo supports a completely serverless deployment. 
They refer to this as SOLO deployment.

--Ferg

dave wrote:

well one of the big advantages of flex is that you can use remoting, web 
services, xml whatever very easily, actually it's kinda sick how easy it is 
and you dont have that with laszlo.

 Also laszlo seems to always be publishing at least 2 versions of flash behind 
 the current version and if you are making RIA's of the future then this 
 should be of great importance to you.

 Then with laszlo if you need support be prepared to buy it and it's not cheap.

 Laszlo also doesnt support the same type of customization especially with 
 components that flex does so if you need a completely custom or fitting look 
 then flex is the choice.

 Flex is part of the whole flash platform and being able to run actionscript 
 in it is obviously a great advantage plus all the other products you can use 
 with it.

 There was something about laszlo on shared servers that was hidious but I 
 cant recall what it was but I wouldn't plan on using it on a shared server 
 and if u can afford flex then you wont be on a shared server.

~Dave the disruptor~
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capital to form a corporation. 


From: Trevor Orr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 4:13 PM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: RE: Open Lazlo vs. Flex 

But if you can do ActionScript in Flex then can you not call CF remoting
components to access database then?

-Original Message-
From: Matt Woodward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 1:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Open Lazlo vs. Flex

  

OK...I'm still missing the bigger picture

As I said already...the Lazlo demo leads me to belive it's only for UI 
coding (although there is talk of databut via XML only).



Flex and Laszlo are both presentation servers, so yes, they only deal
with the front end and presentation of data.

  

So does Lazlo (and Flex) have an equivalent of:
-database interaction (CFQUERY)
-conditional logic (CFIF/CFCASE)



No, and yes. ;-) Database interaction is done through another
technology such as CF, for example. Laszlo and Flex don't talk directly
to the database--that's not their job. Using ActionScript in Flex you
can of course do all sorts of logic on the scripting side. I *believe*
Flex uses JavaScript as its scripting language, so whatever you can do
in JS would apply to Laszlo.

  

Or perhaps even simplercan either of these do what CF can do (i.e. 
build an entire application) or are they more for the interface side of



  

things and then levergae J2EE or CF for the rest of the app?



Depends on what your app needs to do. You CAN build entire apps in Flex
or Laszlo, but without a database behind them, I'm not sure how useful
they'd be.

Matt





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Re: Open Lazlo vs. Flex

2005-08-03 Thread Bryan Stevenson

OKnow that I have more infoI have more questions ;-)

I saw in the Lazlo demo that it's tag basedlike so:
canvas
  textHello World/text
/canvas

I've heard a bunch of folks mention AS 2 in relation to Flexnow I'm not 
sure if the use of AS 2 equates to Lazlo's use of JavaScript OR if AS 2 
equates to Lazlo's tag based usage?

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Re: Open Lazlo vs. Flex

2005-08-03 Thread Mike Chambers

As does Flex.

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cfc's and mappings

2005-08-03 Thread David Brown

On my dev server I seem to have a phantom mapping somewhere.  In my component 
browser I see both mycoms and mycoms1 with the same cfc's listed under both 
names.

But in my mappings and custom tag I don't see a mycoms1 only a mycoms in 
mappings.

On my production servers I only see (as I should) mycoms

Is there a file that stores mappings or custom tag mappings?  Something that I 
can edit manually?

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Client deadlock

2005-08-03 Thread Botts, Tom

I am getting a ton of these error messages.  They are not in the
coldfusion admin logs but under Jrun/logs/cfusion-out.log.  This is a MX
7 installation, sql 2000, server 2003.
 
These are the steps we have tried so far:
1.  We observed we are getting these on both our production box and test
box.
2.  On the test box we have switched jdbc drivers from microsoft to
native macromedia - no difference.
3.  On the test box we switched sql servers - no difference.
 
08/03 16:40:25 Information [jrpp-550] - client variable JDBC STORE -
retry 3
08/03 16:40:25 Information [jrpp-535] - [Microsoft][SQLServer 2000
Driver for JDBC][SQLServer]Transaction (Process ID 377) was deadlocked
on lock resources with another process and has been chosen as the
deadlock victim. Rerun the transaction.
08/03 16:40:25 Warning [jrpp-535] - Failed to store CLIENT variables to
datasource CF_SERVER - [Microsoft][SQLServer 2000 Driver for
JDBC][SQLServer]Transaction (Process ID 377) was deadlocked on lock
resources with another process and has been chosen as the deadlock
victim. Rerun the transaction.
 
Any clues ?
 
Thanks in advance,
Tom
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Can a CF file edit itself?

2005-08-03 Thread Mike Soultanian

I am trying to create a file security system and I have a custom tag 
that checks the security settings on a CFM file every time it is 
accessed.  So, at the top of the page would be:

CF_SECURITYCHECK

This tag checks the database to see if the logged-in user has access to 
the file and continues loading the page if the user does.  If the user 
doesn't have access, the user will be sent to an error page.  Obviously, 
to keep track of every file on the system the database needs to have a 
unique identifier for each file.  I could use the directory/filename, 
but if move a file, that would cause problems because the database would 
lose the information on that file and permissions would have to be 
reset (pain).

So, what I want to happen is when a CFM page is accessed for the first 
time, I want it to edit itself and put in a a unique file identifier 
that it will then be stored in the database.  So, for example, it will 
take the following:

CF_SECURITYCHECK

and change it to:

CF_SECURITYCHECK FileID=[some randomly generated unique number]

I know this may not be possible, but I thought I'd check anyways. 
Otherwise, does anyone know how I can identify a file by some unique 
characteristic (i.e. checksum maybe)?  It's kinda similar to an NTFS 
system where the system knows the permissions on a file regardless of 
where it moves to.

What I would like to avoid is generating my own unique numbers in each 
file.  I could do it that way, but I'd like to find a clean and more 
automatic way to take care of it.

Thanks,
Mike

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Re: cfc's and mappings

2005-08-03 Thread Barney Boisvert

maybe the implicit webroot mapping is the difference?  Though I
don't know if the component browser is aware of webroots.

cheers,
barneyb

On 8/3/05, David Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On my dev server I seem to have a phantom mapping somewhere.  In my component 
 browser I see both mycoms and mycoms1 with the same cfc's listed under both 
 names.
 
 But in my mappings and custom tag I don't see a mycoms1 only a mycoms in 
 mappings.
 
 On my production servers I only see (as I should) mycoms
 
 Is there a file that stores mappings or custom tag mappings?  Something that 
 I can edit manually?
 
 David
 
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Re: Open Lazlo vs. Flex

2005-08-03 Thread Ken Ferguson

Flex is tag-based as well. Flex uses the mxml language, which is MM's 
own xml-based language along with AS. The tags and JS you use in Laszlo 
are used to build the flash movie. In this same way, the tags and AS you 
use in Flex are used to generate the movie.

I think it's fair to say that Laszlo uses their own xml-based lzx code 
with JS in the same way (at a high level) that Flex uses the xml-based 
mxml code with AS.


Bryan Stevenson wrote:

OKnow that I have more infoI have more questions ;-)

I saw in the Lazlo demo that it's tag basedlike so:
canvas
  textHello World/text
/canvas

I've heard a bunch of folks mention AS 2 in relation to Flexnow I'm not 
sure if the use of AS 2 equates to Lazlo's use of JavaScript OR if AS 2 
equates to Lazlo's tag based usage?

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RE: Open Lazlo vs. Flex

2005-08-03 Thread Kevin Aebig

I understand what you mean. It sure makes it easier to add small UI features
that enhance for the average developer...

Maybe I'm just bitter because I see it as a waste of Flash's capabilities
overall. 

 Of course even with a nice rich UI...I will always stick to my own 
 development standards ;-)

Good for you... that's an ideology that many new developers should pick up
and not enough existing developers follow.

Cheers,

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: August 3, 2005 2:29 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Open Lazlo vs. Flex

I personally think both are a waste of time. I like the idea that's been
 suggested with Zorn, but that remains to be seen...

 The biggest advantages offered by Flash are:

 - Dynamic Capabilities
 - Lightweight
 - Extremely Interactive
 - Browser Persistence

I hear ya Kevin.but what I've seen in my career so far (no matter how 
much it matters to me to build apps correctly and make them maintainable 
etc.).is that a pretty picture often makes the saleso a (pardon the 
pun) Flashy UI with moving widgets and lots of colours has that wow factor 
that as we as developers know doesn't matter.but often makes the sale 
when showing to the decision makers (i.e. Dilbert's boss...hehe).

Of course even with a nice rich UI...I will always stick to my own 
development standards ;-)

Cheers

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Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
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CF_Underground 7

2005-08-03 Thread Connie DeCinko

Anyone know when the sessions will be announced for CF_Underground 7?  I
need to know soon if I should come to MAX a day earlier to attend.
 
 
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Re: dealer locator

2005-08-03 Thread dave

http://www.allthegoodness.com/projects/map/

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dave wrote:
 i found a cool php one but it runs off of gps info which I dont have

well, what do you have?

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Re: Can a CF file edit itself?

2005-08-03 Thread Barney Boisvert

Yeah, you bet.  While I don't do it all the time, it's definitely a
viable tool to have in your set.  Just watch out because it doesn't
work if the code you're executing is encrypted, for obvious reasons.

cffile action=read file=... variable=fc /
cfset fc = replace(fc, cf_securitycheck, cf_securitycheck
id=#myId#) /
cffile action=write file=... output=#fc# /

I'd check out whatever version control system you're using to see if
it assigns unique resource IDs of some sort, and then use that as your
ID using keyword substitution (your nomenclature may vary).  Since you
can move resources around inside the VC system, you'd avoid the issues
with that at the raw filesystem level.  And since it's happening once
for the file, not once per execution, you'll also alleviate issues
with running the file on your dev server and having to unset the IDs
befor eyou deploy live and stuff.

cheers,
barneyb

On 8/3/05, Mike Soultanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am trying to create a file security system and I have a custom tag
 that checks the security settings on a CFM file every time it is
 accessed.  So, at the top of the page would be:
 
 CF_SECURITYCHECK
 
 This tag checks the database to see if the logged-in user has access to
 the file and continues loading the page if the user does.  If the user
 doesn't have access, the user will be sent to an error page.  Obviously,
 to keep track of every file on the system the database needs to have a
 unique identifier for each file.  I could use the directory/filename,
 but if move a file, that would cause problems because the database would
 lose the information on that file and permissions would have to be
 reset (pain).
 
 So, what I want to happen is when a CFM page is accessed for the first
 time, I want it to edit itself and put in a a unique file identifier
 that it will then be stored in the database.  So, for example, it will
 take the following:
 
 CF_SECURITYCHECK
 
 and change it to:
 
 CF_SECURITYCHECK FileID=[some randomly generated unique number]
 
 I know this may not be possible, but I thought I'd check anyways.
 Otherwise, does anyone know how I can identify a file by some unique
 characteristic (i.e. checksum maybe)?  It's kinda similar to an NTFS
 system where the system knows the permissions on a file regardless of
 where it moves to.
 
 What I would like to avoid is generating my own unique numbers in each
 file.  I could do it that way, but I'd like to find a clean and more
 automatic way to take care of it.
 
 Thanks,
 Mike
 

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RE: Can a CF file edit itself?

2005-08-03 Thread Ian Skinner

Basic Answer: Yes.


I have a system where a cfm file creates other cfm files just fine.  I see no 
reason why a file in memory could not re-write the disk version of the file.

Not sure about how that would affect the compiled version of the file.  But I 
presume if the admin setting to always check for new versions is on then it 
will be recompiled the next time the cfm file is requested.

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-Original Message-
From: Mike Soultanian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 1:54 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Can a CF file edit itself?

I am trying to create a file security system and I have a custom tag
that checks the security settings on a CFM file every time it is
accessed.  So, at the top of the page would be:

CF_SECURITYCHECK

This tag checks the database to see if the logged-in user has access to
the file and continues loading the page if the user does.  If the user
doesn't have access, the user will be sent to an error page.  Obviously,
to keep track of every file on the system the database needs to have a
unique identifier for each file.  I could use the directory/filename,
but if move a file, that would cause problems because the database would
lose the information on that file and permissions would have to be
reset (pain).

So, what I want to happen is when a CFM page is accessed for the first
time, I want it to edit itself and put in a a unique file identifier
that it will then be stored in the database.  So, for example, it will
take the following:

CF_SECURITYCHECK

and change it to:

CF_SECURITYCHECK FileID=[some randomly generated unique number]

I know this may not be possible, but I thought I'd check anyways.
Otherwise, does anyone know how I can identify a file by some unique
characteristic (i.e. checksum maybe)?  It's kinda similar to an NTFS
system where the system knows the permissions on a file regardless of
where it moves to.

What I would like to avoid is generating my own unique numbers in each
file.  I could do it that way, but I'd like to find a clean and more
automatic way to take care of it.

Thanks,
Mike



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Re: Open Lazlo vs. Flex

2005-08-03 Thread dave

actually flex's base coding is mxml which is like xml and similiar to laszlo's 
but you can use as2 right on in the code to help control the flash kinda like 
how you can now run java in with cfm, does that make sense?

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From: Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 4:39 PM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: Re: Open Lazlo vs. Flex 

OKnow that I have more infoI have more questions ;-)

I saw in the Lazlo demo that it's tag basedlike so:

 Hello World

I've heard a bunch of folks mention AS 2 in relation to Flexnow I'm not 
sure if the use of AS 2 equates to Lazlo's use of JavaScript OR if AS 2 
equates to Lazlo's tag based usage?

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RE: Client deadlock

2005-08-03 Thread Mark A Kruger

Tom,

A deadlock message is not an error per se - at least not necessarily a
programming error.  It means that there are competing SQL connections trying
to access the same resource on the client variable store.  The first thing I
would do would be to clear out all the client variables in the table (CDATA
I think). I would also add an index or 2 to make selects breath easier. It's
possible that this will fix your immediate problem.

Finally, since you have this problem on a dev box (and presumably you are
not hitting the same SQL server) which is typically not as busy as
production - I would look for code that is continually inserting into the
table. For example - if you dynamically change the application name with
every request (don't laugh - it's been done :).

-Mark


-Original Message-
From: Botts, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 3:51 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Client deadlock


I am getting a ton of these error messages.  They are not in the
coldfusion admin logs but under Jrun/logs/cfusion-out.log.  This is a MX
7 installation, sql 2000, server 2003.

These are the steps we have tried so far:
1.  We observed we are getting these on both our production box and test
box.
2.  On the test box we have switched jdbc drivers from microsoft to
native macromedia - no difference.
3.  On the test box we switched sql servers - no difference.

08/03 16:40:25 Information [jrpp-550] - client variable JDBC STORE -
retry 3
08/03 16:40:25 Information [jrpp-535] - [Microsoft][SQLServer 2000
Driver for JDBC][SQLServer]Transaction (Process ID 377) was deadlocked
on lock resources with another process and has been chosen as the
deadlock victim. Rerun the transaction.
08/03 16:40:25 Warning [jrpp-535] - Failed to store CLIENT variables to
datasource CF_SERVER - [Microsoft][SQLServer 2000 Driver for
JDBC][SQLServer]Transaction (Process ID 377) was deadlocked on lock
resources with another process and has been chosen as the deadlock
victim. Rerun the transaction.

Any clues ?

Thanks in advance,
Tom
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enterhost ISP -- any experience?

2005-08-03 Thread David Aden

Does anyone have experience, good or bad, with CF hosting of dedicated servers 
at EnterHost? 

I was a little surprised when their sales people (who I couldn't reach through 
the phone, only through email) refused to tell me who the President/CEO and 
principals of the company were. I just like to know who I'm doing business 
with! (Found the data anyway through corporate paper filings, but it was a red 
flag they wouldn't just tell me.) 

In any case, I'm interested if anyone has experience with them, in particular 
how good/bad their tech support is. 

thank you! 

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RE: Client deadlock

2005-08-03 Thread Russ Michaels

You will also find in your client variable settings an option 

Disable global client variable updates 
This option controls how ColdFusion updates global client variables, such as
HITCOUNT and LASTVISIT. If updates are disabled, ColdFusion updates these
variables only when they are set or modified. If updates are enabled,
ColdFusion updates global client variables for each page request

Disabling this is going to make a difference.

russ
-Original Message-
From: Mark A Kruger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 03 August 2005 22:24
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Client deadlock

Tom,

A deadlock message is not an error per se - at least not necessarily a
programming error.  It means that there are competing SQL connections trying
to access the same resource on the client variable store.  The first thing I
would do would be to clear out all the client variables in the table (CDATA
I think). I would also add an index or 2 to make selects breath easier. It's
possible that this will fix your immediate problem.

Finally, since you have this problem on a dev box (and presumably you are
not hitting the same SQL server) which is typically not as busy as
production - I would look for code that is continually inserting into the
table. For example - if you dynamically change the application name with
every request (don't laugh - it's been done :).

-Mark


-Original Message-
From: Botts, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 3:51 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Client deadlock


I am getting a ton of these error messages.  They are not in the coldfusion
admin logs but under Jrun/logs/cfusion-out.log.  This is a MX
7 installation, sql 2000, server 2003.

These are the steps we have tried so far:
1.  We observed we are getting these on both our production box and test
box.
2.  On the test box we have switched jdbc drivers from microsoft to native
macromedia - no difference.
3.  On the test box we switched sql servers - no difference.

08/03 16:40:25 Information [jrpp-550] - client variable JDBC STORE - retry 3
08/03 16:40:25 Information [jrpp-535] - [Microsoft][SQLServer 2000 Driver
for JDBC][SQLServer]Transaction (Process ID 377) was deadlocked on lock
resources with another process and has been chosen as the deadlock victim.
Rerun the transaction.
08/03 16:40:25 Warning [jrpp-535] - Failed to store CLIENT variables to
datasource CF_SERVER - [Microsoft][SQLServer 2000 Driver for
JDBC][SQLServer]Transaction (Process ID 377) was deadlocked on lock
resources with another process and has been chosen as the deadlock victim.
Rerun the transaction.

Any clues ?

Thanks in advance,
Tom
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RE: Open Lazlo vs. Flex

2005-08-03 Thread Damien McKenna

  You need to look at OpenLaszlo 3, it supports Flash 6.

 that's still 2 versions behind (since i hear we will have 
 flash 8 here next week)

That's splitting hairs, OpenLaszlo 3 has been out since April.  So its
more like 1.5 releases :-P

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RE: Cfobject Excel Com

2005-08-03 Thread Dan G. Switzer, II

Jen,

I've been looking at this since you posted.  Does this have to done by a
server admin or can I just put this in my folder where I am coding?  (so
much harder to deal with an admin)

You'd need to copy the JAR file to a directory in the CF's class path. So,
this may require an admin. You may also need to recycle the services.

Also... can you tell me a bit more about a CFC wrapper and how that would
work?

What I meant by a CFC wrapper is to create a ColdFusion Component that you'd
write which would doing all the interaction with the jExcelApi. 

One of the benefits of the jExcelApi is you do *not* need Excel installed on
the server--you just need access to the jar file you download.

Do a search for jExcelApi and CFMX on Google. I know I've seen some articles
that walk you through the basics of using the API in CF.

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Re: Open Lazlo vs. Flex

2005-08-03 Thread Mike Chambers

Laszlo does not use AS2, but rather some proprietary scripting language (i
dont have all of the details).

Flex UI markup is XML / Tag based, and the scripting language is
ActionScript (based on ECMA Script).

?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
mx:Application xmlns:mx=http://www.macromedia.com/2003/mxml; xmlns=*

!-- this can also point to an external ActionScript file --
mx:Script
function onClick()
{
outputField.text = Hello World;
}
/mx:Script

mx:Button label=Hello id=button click=onClick() /
mx:TextArea id=outputField /

/mx:Application

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From: Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: Open Lazlo vs. Flex


 OKnow that I have more infoI have more questions ;-)

 I saw in the Lazlo demo that it's tag basedlike so:
 canvas
   textHello World/text
 /canvas

 I've heard a bunch of folks mention AS 2 in relation to Flexnow I'm
not
 sure if the use of AS 2 equates to Lazlo's use of JavaScript OR if AS 2
 equates to Lazlo's tag based usage?

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Application/Project Management tracking app

2005-08-03 Thread Ciliotta, Mario

I am sure this has been asked before but does anyone on this list know of a 
good application inventory or tracking system.  I am looking for something that 
I can keep track of the basic information about the applications we develop and 
the 3 third party ones that we support.  Also if it had a module where 
end-users could enter request for fixes or bugs.  

I started to develop something but it just keeps getting pushed to the side, 
with rest of the work coming in and I am sure someone on this list must be 
using something like this.   

If in is written in CF so that I can modify it that would be even better.

Thanks
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RE: Application/Project Management tracking app

2005-08-03 Thread Russ Michaels

We use this,

It's not perfect, but none of them are, but at least it's not bloasted with
loads of crap you don't need like MS project.

http://www.proworkflow.com/affiliates/aff_manager/newaff/redirect.cfm/i/2004
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To: CF-Talk
Subject: Application/Project Management tracking app

I am sure this has been asked before but does anyone on this list know of a
good application inventory or tracking system.  I am looking for something
that I can keep track of the basic information about the applications we
develop and the 3 third party ones that we support.  Also if it had a module
where end-users could enter request for fixes or bugs.  

I started to develop something but it just keeps getting pushed to the side,
with rest of the work coming in and I am sure someone on this list must be
using something like this.   

If in is written in CF so that I can modify it that would be even better.

Thanks
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RE: Open Lazlo vs. Flex

2005-08-03 Thread dave

I would call 2 version differences more than splitting hairs, thats like saying:

 the difference between using:

 cfm 5 and coldfusion mx7
 or
 winlblows 98 and winblows xp
 or
 osx 8 and os x 10
 or
 ie 4 and ie 6
 or 
 atari and xbox

 are all just splitting hairs, too close to call (well maybe the winblows 
versions) ;)~

 it still comes down to flex will support flash player 8 and laszlo will 
support 6 (which is better than 5 though)
 flex supports the flash platform laszlo does not.
 flex supports remoting, laszlo doesnt
 blah blah blah

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From: Damien McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 5:49 PM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: RE: Open Lazlo vs. Flex 

  You need to look at OpenLaszlo 3, it supports Flash 6.

 that's still 2 versions behind (since i hear we will have 
 flash 8 here next week)

That's splitting hairs, OpenLaszlo 3 has been out since April. So its
more like 1.5 releases :-P

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Rest of the string regex question.

2005-08-03 Thread Ian Skinner

I have this regex expression that is correctly getting the first two parts of a 
string into two references (\1 \2).  Now I would like the rest of the string, 
how ever long it might be, to be put into a third reference.  How would I do 
that?

^\s{3}(\d{2}:\d{2}:\d{2}.\d{3})(.{18})


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Re: Rest of the string regex question.

2005-08-03 Thread Barney Boisvert

add (.*)$ to the end.

cheers,
barneyb

On 8/3/05, Ian Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have this regex expression that is correctly getting the first two parts of 
 a string into two references (\1 \2).  Now I would like the rest of the 
 string, how ever long it might be, to be put into a third reference.  How 
 would I do that?
 
 ^\s{3}(\d{2}:\d{2}:\d{2}.\d{3})(.{18})
 
 
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FW: Next GOMMUG Meeting: August 16

2005-08-03 Thread Damien McKenna

Some details of the local MMUG for anyone in Central Florida who might
be interested.

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 -Original Message-
 From: GO MMUG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 6:31 PM
 Subject: Next GOMMUG Meeting: August 16
 
 Hello,
 
 Hope everyone is having a great month. Below are details on our next
 meeting and a few reminders.
 
 ---
 Next Meeting
 ---
 
 Our next meeting will be on Tuesday, August 16 at 6:30 p.m. and will
 feature a Panel Discussion on Project Management. Whether you are a
 project manager, freelancer or a developer working for a big company,
 how do you make sure projects get done on time and effectively. Come
 hear the experiences of our panel, ask your own questions or share
 your insights with project management.
 
 For details and to RSVP, visit http://gommug.org/meetings.cfm
 
 ---
 Live Broadcast!
 ---
 
 We will broadcast our August meeting live through Breeze. If you
 cannot physically attend, login to the members area of the site on
 August 16 to hear the panel and even ask questions virtually! If you
 cannot attend virtually, you can e-mail me your questions for the
 panel. The recording of the presentation will be available in the
 members area after the meeting.
 
 ---
 July Meeting
 ---
 
 If you missed our July meeting on creating a basic web application
 (chat) using ColdFusion and Dreamweaver, you can view a recording of
 the presentation, print the handout and download sample files at
 http://gommug.org/members/presentations.cfm
 
 ---
 Forums
 ---
 Don't forget you can now chat with fellow members at our online
 Forums.  You can use the same login from the members area to post.
 Stop by and help us brainstorm ideas,
 get your questions answered, share some of your wisdom or discuss just
 about anything.
 
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 RSS Feed
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 GOMMUG now has an RSS feed! Add the following URL to your RSS
 aggregator to keep up with the latest news on GOMMUG, Macromedia and
 related events.
 
 http://gommug.org/rss.xml
 
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 Study Groups
 ---
 
 If anyone is interested in becoming certified on a Macromedia product,
 please visit this link for more information on getting a study guide:
 
 http://gommug.org/galleon/messages.cfm?threadid=35AB9E09-D61B-
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Re: Can a CF file edit itself?

2005-08-03 Thread Nathan Strutz

Yeah, I have a file browser  editor app, and I can copy  paste an 
upgrade into the edit field and have the program writ to itself. The 
next page that loads is using the new version.

fun.

'course that doesn't help when my site is down :(

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Ian Skinner wrote:
 Basic Answer: Yes.
 
 
 I have a system where a cfm file creates other cfm files just fine.  I see no 
 reason why a file in memory could not re-write the disk version of the file.
 
 Not sure about how that would affect the compiled version of the file.  But I 
 presume if the admin setting to always check for new versions is on then it 
 will be recompiled the next time the cfm file is requested.
 
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 From: Mike Soultanian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 1:54 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Can a CF file edit itself?
 
 I am trying to create a file security system and I have a custom tag
 that checks the security settings on a CFM file every time it is
 accessed.  So, at the top of the page would be:
 
 CF_SECURITYCHECK
 
 This tag checks the database to see if the logged-in user has access to
 the file and continues loading the page if the user does.  If the user
 doesn't have access, the user will be sent to an error page.  Obviously,
 to keep track of every file on the system the database needs to have a
 unique identifier for each file.  I could use the directory/filename,
 but if move a file, that would cause problems because the database would
 lose the information on that file and permissions would have to be
 reset (pain).
 
 So, what I want to happen is when a CFM page is accessed for the first
 time, I want it to edit itself and put in a a unique file identifier
 that it will then be stored in the database.  So, for example, it will
 take the following:
 
 CF_SECURITYCHECK
 
 and change it to:
 
 CF_SECURITYCHECK FileID=[some randomly generated unique number]
 
 I know this may not be possible, but I thought I'd check anyways.
 Otherwise, does anyone know how I can identify a file by some unique
 characteristic (i.e. checksum maybe)?  It's kinda similar to an NTFS
 system where the system knows the permissions on a file regardless of
 where it moves to.
 
 What I would like to avoid is generating my own unique numbers in each
 file.  I could do it that way, but I'd like to find a clean and more
 automatic way to take care of it.
 
 Thanks,
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