Re: Coldspring
Hmmm, I am sure when I went to the site, clicked the main nav for docs it didn't take me to a doc site? H. Will need to look into this further! This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tue Jul 11 06:54:19 2006 Subject: Re: Coldspring Umm, http://www.coldspringframework.org/docs/ On 7/11/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And yes, docs, or lack of online, was certainly in this mix! -- ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246037 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: There's got to be an easier way to parse this structure
Yes, I started noodling through that as you were sending this ... It seems like one of the following should return something other than an empty array ... getNode = XMLSearch(GeoCodeXML, //PostalCodeNumber/XmlText/*); getNode = XMLSearch(GeoCodeXML, //PostalCodeNumber/XmlText); getNode = XMLSearch(GeoCodeXML, //PostalCodeNumber/*); getNode = XMLSearch(GeoCodeXML, //PostalCodeNumber); The only thing that hasn't returned an empty array so far is: getNode = XMLSearch(GeoCodeXML, //*); -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 10:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: There's got to be an easier way to parse this structure Yes, this is what XMLSearch() is for. You need to use XPath to search for all PostalCodeNumber nodes. An intro to XPath: http://www.w3schools.com/xpath/default.asp On 7/11/06, Howard Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To pull a zip code from the Google Maps API, the zip can be returned in one of three different locations (that I've found so far). ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246038 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Complex object types - a little help?
Argh! That be pirate speak for messin' up. I was referring to 'client' which was my loop index and also a field in the query. Thanks All for the pointers though! -Nate -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 12:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Complex object types - a little help? it's already a list. delimited with a pipe character. you can use any list function on it...you just need to specify the delimter in the list function. cfset myList = this|that|the other / cfset myArray = listToArray(myList, '|') / You can also loop through it. cfloop list=#myList# index=client delimiters=| #client#br / /cfloop ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246039 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Who's dropped the ball with the Adobe ceritifcation programme ?
It is a shame yeah, but ultimately not so much of a show stopper as the certs don't really mean that much in the real world. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Mon Jul 10 05:52:01 2006 Subject: Who's dropped the ball with the Adobe ceritifcation programme? Does anyone have an address at Adobe for the person in charge of the certification program? I'm getting a bit cheesed off that after more than a year, the people who hold Advanced certification in CF havent got any acknowledgement, marketing materials, or listing on the Adobe site. We were graciously allowed to be demoted and register as having got regular certification, and when I questioned it at Adobe some months ago, the person I corresponded with back then apologised and said they'd made a mistake bringing the data across from Macromedia and they'd fix it as soon as possible. Thats not a problem - anyone can make a mistake, but I think a year is plenty of time to have brought all the data across from Macromedia and fixed any teething problems, dont you think? And in the mean time, all those people who qualified for the exam with lesser grades have had acknowledgement and referrals etc for more than a year, while we advanced folks are left in the cold. I think Adobe should think of some way to compensate for their error, and their tardiness in fixing it, dont you think? Anyway, I need to get this issue back on their radar, and I have lost the address of the person I emailed to back then. However I suppose, given the results, there isn't a lot of point in continuing with that person - perhaps I need to go a level higher. -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246040 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: There's got to be an easier way to parse this structure
That's strange, because when I use cfset MyPostCodes = XMLSearch(GeoCodeXML,//PostalCodeNumber) and CFDUMP the result, I get an array of length 1, when using it on the XML sample at http://www.google.com/apis/maps/documentation/ On 7/11/06, Howard Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I started noodling through that as you were sending this ... It seems like one of the following should return something other than an empty array ... getNode = XMLSearch(GeoCodeXML, //PostalCodeNumber/XmlText/*); getNode = XMLSearch(GeoCodeXML, //PostalCodeNumber/XmlText); getNode = XMLSearch(GeoCodeXML, //PostalCodeNumber/*); getNode = XMLSearch(GeoCodeXML, //PostalCodeNumber); The only thing that hasn't returned an empty array so far is: getNode = XMLSearch(GeoCodeXML, //*); -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 10:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: There's got to be an easier way to parse this structure Yes, this is what XMLSearch() is for. You need to use XPath to search for all PostalCodeNumber nodes. An intro to XPath: http://www.w3schools.com/xpath/default.asp On 7/11/06, Howard Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To pull a zip code from the Google Maps API, the zip can be returned in one of three different locations (that I've found so far). -- CFAJAX docs and other useful articles: http://jr-holmes.coldfusionjournal.com/ ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246041 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: GPG and cfexecute, or...
On Monday 10 July 2006 17:11, Ken Ferguson wrote: Absolutely, everything works perfectly from the cmd line; no troubles at all. As the CF user ? -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246042 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software amp; Servers
On Monday 10 July 2006 17:18, Vince Bonfanti wrote: The fact that .NET works better on Windows than Java/J2EE should be plainly obvious to anyone. Nope, sorry. The only .NET apps I've seen suck, though they look more like Windows apps than the top-notch Java apps I use (at least) weekly. (Yes, I know, Linux geek with Windows laptop. I keep threatening it with formating everytime it goes wrong, and that normally fixes it ;-) ) -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246043 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG!
On Tuesday 11 July 2006 04:47, Judith Dinowitz wrote: version of FusionDebug (http://www.fusion-reactor.com/fusiondebug/), a hot Woa. That looks like a really, very, very useful too. The only pain going from CF5 to 6/7 was losing the run-time debugger. Now it's back :-) -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246044 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software Servers
On Monday 10 July 2006 18:15, Munson, Jacob wrote: I understand that logic, but I don't understand why a company would want to spend the money on BlueDragon.NET when they are already coding everything in .NET. True, but say you've got a beloved CF app in your company. You're manager was recently convinced that .Net is the way to go, and he wants to convert all company apps to .Net. If you use BD.Net you have a chance of convincing him to keep this app in CF. No, you don't. The decision has been taken, and you'll be rewriting the CF as .Net, rather than spend money on a new server to run the CF. Been there, done that, left :-) -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246045 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software amp; Servers
That is no doubt down to the developers and not related to Windows The top notch apps in both .NET and J2EE are built by top notch coders. ..NET is more stable on Windows that J2EE. It is native for a start. There are no third parties involved...JRE, J2EE server etc... Each of which is another thing to go wrong! I have seen stable apps on Windows but I have also seen far more unstable ones. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tue Jul 11 09:15:05 2006 Subject: Re: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software amp; Servers On Monday 10 July 2006 17:18, Vince Bonfanti wrote: The fact that .NET works better on Windows than Java/J2EE should be plainly obvious to anyone. Nope, sorry. The only .NET apps I've seen suck, though they look more like Windows apps than the top-notch Java apps I use (at least) weekly. (Yes, I know, Linux geek with Windows laptop. I keep threatening it with formating everytime it goes wrong, and that normally fixes it ;-) ) -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246046 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG!
But I think you will agree it should be in ColdFusion out of the box :-) This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tue Jul 11 09:21:39 2006 Subject: Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG! On Tuesday 11 July 2006 04:47, Judith Dinowitz wrote: version of FusionDebug (http://www.fusion-reactor.com/fusiondebug/), a hot Woa. That looks like a really, very, very useful too. The only pain going from CF5 to 6/7 was losing the run-time debugger. Now it's back :-) -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246047 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG!
A few things that were missed from the email. FusionReactor has a deal for CFUnited attendees as well as FAQU subscribers that can be read about here: http://www.fusion-reactor.com/cfunited06/ If you ask them, they may well give you the same deal for FusionDebug. I'll also be showing off the House of Fusion Google Analytics stats at the NYCFUG which implies a strong growth in ColdFusion interest on the net (since May 16th to be exact). Perfect for those who need to convince a boss or client that ColdFusion isn't a dead language. Tomorrow night is our monthly NYCFUG (http://www.nycfug.org) meeting! ** Michael Dinowitz, head of House of Fusion, will be demoing the beta version of FusionDebug (http://www.fusion-reactor.com/fusiondebug/), a hot new debugger for ColdFusion (from the makers of FusionReactor) that will work in any Eclipse environment! ** He will also be talking about some of House of Fusion's new projects, including the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update (http://www. fusionauthority.com/quarterly), recently released at CFUNITED. ** Tobe Goldfinger will be talking about the CFUNITED conference. Don't miss it! RSVP at http://www.nycfug.org. Judith Dinowitz Co-manager New York ColdFusion User Group http://www.nycfug.org/ ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246048 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG!
On Tuesday 11 July 2006 09:09, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: But I think you will agree it should be in ColdFusion out of the box :-) It would help if it was. Certainly one of the things on my wish list for CF8 is a server-side debugger. OTOH, not doing so creates an eco-system, which gives more people and companies reasons to support CF. So I'm in two minds :-) -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246049 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG!
Maybe yes, maybe no. I remember the pre-MX debugger and let me tell you, I never used it. If I did a survey of the pre-MX people, I'd bet that a very small percentage used it. But that was a different time. ColdFusion has grown since then, the community has matured since then and a real debugger is now something we can appreciate. Michael Dinowitz President: House of Fusion http://www.houseoffusion.com Publisher: Fusion Authority http://www.fusionauthority.com Adobe Community Expert - Original Message - From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:09 AM Subject: Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG! But I think you will agree it should be in ColdFusion out of the box :-) ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246050 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG!
Better debugging is on my CF8 wish list but not high up. I'll have to get my worst practices = faster CF article out so I can say what is on the top of my list. :) On Tuesday 11 July 2006 09:09, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: But I think you will agree it should be in ColdFusion out of the box :-) It would help if it was. Certainly one of the things on my wish list for CF8 is a server-side debugger. OTOH, not doing so creates an eco-system, which gives more people and companies reasons to support CF. So I'm in two minds :-) -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246051 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software amp; Servers
Ah, from the Zaphod Beeblebrox school of computer management :-) On 7/11/06, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Yes, I know, Linux geek with Windows laptop. I keep threatening it with formating everytime it goes wrong, and that normally fixes it ;-) -- CFAJAX docs and other useful articles: http://jr-holmes.coldfusionjournal.com/ ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246052 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG!
On Tuesday 11 July 2006 09:49, Michael Dinowitz wrote: Better debugging is on my CF8 wish list but not high up. True. I'd rather have cfinterface :-) The lack of a debugger just means you have to be carfull to put enough debug level calls to your logger in your code, and of course logging complex objects is hard :-) -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246053 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG!
Hmm, if the future of ColdFusion is becoming more advanced isn't real time debugging a must? Java dev has it, .NET has it. I remember explaining to someone that ColdFusion did not have debugging (other than CFDUMP) which was greeted with laughter and contempt. I do not think there is any excuse not to have it - it's a must and only cements my feelings they are wasting time with adding useless features when real additions are being deferred in true MM style. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tue Jul 11 09:47:56 2006 Subject: Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG! Maybe yes, maybe no. I remember the pre-MX debugger and let me tell you, I never used it. If I did a survey of the pre-MX people, I'd bet that a very small percentage used it. But that was a different time. ColdFusion has grown since then, the community has matured since then and a real debugger is now something we can appreciate. Michael Dinowitz President: House of Fusion http://www.houseoffusion.com Publisher: Fusion Authority http://www.fusionauthority.com Adobe Community Expert - Original Message - From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:09 AM Subject: Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG! But I think you will agree it should be in ColdFusion out of the box :-) ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246054 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG!
I know it will do! But it should not be from a 3rd party! Come on Adobe buy the talented developers who did this tool! Make it happen! :-) This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tue Jul 11 09:45:58 2006 Subject: Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG! Hmm, if the future of ColdFusion is becoming more advanced isn't real time debugging a must? Java dev has it, .NET has it. I remember explaining to someone that ColdFusion did not have debugging (other than CFDUMP) which was greeted with laughter and contempt. I do not think there is any excuse not to have it - it's a must and only cements my feelings they are wasting time with adding useless features when real additions are being deferred in true MM style. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tue Jul 11 09:47:56 2006 Subject: Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG! Maybe yes, maybe no. I remember the pre-MX debugger and let me tell you, I never used it. If I did a survey of the pre-MX people, I'd bet that a very small percentage used it. But that was a different time. ColdFusion has grown since then, the community has matured since then and a real debugger is now something we can appreciate. Michael Dinowitz President: House of Fusion http://www.houseoffusion.com Publisher: Fusion Authority http://www.fusionauthority.com Adobe Community Expert - Original Message - From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:09 AM Subject: Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG! But I think you will agree it should be in ColdFusion out of the box :-) ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246055 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG!
Be good to see this list .. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tue Jul 11 09:49:22 2006 Subject: Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG! Better debugging is on my CF8 wish list but not high up. I'll have to get my worst practices = faster CF article out so I can say what is on the top of my list. :) On Tuesday 11 July 2006 09:09, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: But I think you will agree it should be in ColdFusion out of the box :-) It would help if it was. Certainly one of the things on my wish list for CF8 is a server-side debugger. OTOH, not doing so creates an eco-system, which gives more people and companies reasons to support CF. So I'm in two minds :-) -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246056 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: GPG and cfexecute, or...
Another thing that's been mentioned on another forum is that windows doesn't have a good source of entropy. Most encryption software needs a source of entropy and some use the keyboard and mouse to generate it. When you're at the console (or terminal session maybe) there is some keyboard/mouse movement, so perhaps it works, but when you're running it through coldfusion, it can't get it's entropy and therefore blocks. Just a though. Russ -Original Message- From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:13 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: GPG and cfexecute, or... On Monday 10 July 2006 17:11, Ken Ferguson wrote: Absolutely, everything works perfectly from the cmd line; no troubles at all. As the CF user ? -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246057 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG!
Yeah, but most people couldn't get it working in CF Studio! The same applies to a FusionReactor type tool - this should be standard in the product (Bluedragon has it). We have all seen posts of bad performance etc and cfstat is pretty much pointless. Of course, I could go out and but these tools from Webapper but they should be from Madobe. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tue Jul 11 09:47:56 2006 Subject: Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG! Maybe yes, maybe no. I remember the pre-MX debugger and let me tell you, I never used it. If I did a survey of the pre-MX people, I'd bet that a very small percentage used it. But that was a different time. ColdFusion has grown since then, the community has matured since then and a real debugger is now something we can appreciate. Michael Dinowitz President: House of Fusion http://www.houseoffusion.com Publisher: Fusion Authority http://www.fusionauthority.com Adobe Community Expert - Original Message - From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:09 AM Subject: Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG! But I think you will agree it should be in ColdFusion out of the box :-) ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246058 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG!
On Tuesday 11 July 2006 10:00, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: Yeah, but most people couldn't get it working in CF Studio! The implemention there was very poor, I agree. When it didn't work, you were fairly stuck as to why. Myself, I never had a problem after doing the CF4.5 certification course and being shown there how to set it up correctly. But the version of RDS that is now in Eclipse shows what can be done to make things nicer these days. -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246059 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: GPG and cfexecute, or...
On Tuesday 11 July 2006 10:18, Russ wrote: coldfusion, it can't get it's entropy and therefore blocks. Just a though. I'd hope it uses CPU interrupts or something, which will still be generated as long as the disk is spinning :-) Maybe Ken could try setting a timeout of several minutes to see what happens ? -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246060 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG!
The guys who created SeeFusion are ex Allaire/Macromedia Consultants. They got laid off after the merger. Smart move eh. Andy On 11/07/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know it will do! But it should not be from a 3rd party! Come on Adobe buy the talented developers who did this tool! Make it happen! :-) This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tue Jul 11 09:45:58 2006 Subject: Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG! Hmm, if the future of ColdFusion is becoming more advanced isn't real time debugging a must? Java dev has it, .NET has it. I remember explaining to someone that ColdFusion did not have debugging (other than CFDUMP) which was greeted with laughter and contempt. I do not think there is any excuse not to have it - it's a must and only cements my feelings they are wasting time with adding useless features when real additions are being deferred in true MM style. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tue Jul 11 09:47:56 2006 Subject: Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG! Maybe yes, maybe no. I remember the pre-MX debugger and let me tell you, I never used it. If I did a survey of the pre-MX people, I'd bet that a very small percentage used it. But that was a different time. ColdFusion has grown since then, the community has matured since then and a real debugger is now something we can appreciate. Michael Dinowitz President: House of Fusion http://www.houseoffusion.com Publisher: Fusion Authority http://www.fusionauthority.com Adobe Community Expert - Original Message - From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:09 AM Subject: Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG! But I think you will agree it should be in ColdFusion out of the box :-) ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246061 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG!
LOL One smart move and one dumb ass move...:-) This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Andy Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tue Jul 11 10:43:43 2006 Subject: Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG! The guys who created SeeFusion are ex Allaire/Macromedia Consultants. They got laid off after the merger. Smart move eh. Andy On 11/07/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know it will do! But it should not be from a 3rd party! Come on Adobe buy the talented developers who did this tool! Make it happen! :-) This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tue Jul 11 09:45:58 2006 Subject: Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG! Hmm, if the future of ColdFusion is becoming more advanced isn't real time debugging a must? Java dev has it, .NET has it. I remember explaining to someone that ColdFusion did not have debugging (other than CFDUMP) which was greeted with laughter and contempt. I do not think there is any excuse not to have it - it's a must and only cements my feelings they are wasting time with adding useless features when real additions are being deferred in true MM style. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tue Jul 11 09:47:56 2006 Subject: Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG! Maybe yes, maybe no. I remember the pre-MX debugger and let me tell you, I never used it. If I did a survey of the pre-MX people, I'd bet that a very small percentage used it. But that was a different time. ColdFusion has grown since then, the community has matured since then and a real debugger is now something we can appreciate. Michael Dinowitz President: House of Fusion http://www.houseoffusion.com Publisher: Fusion Authority http://www.fusionauthority.com Adobe Community Expert - Original Message - From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:09 AM Subject: Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG! But I think you will agree it should be in ColdFusion out of the box :-) ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive:
Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG!
Anybody know what the cost of the debug plugin will be? Ballpark? On 7/11/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, if the future of ColdFusion is becoming more advanced isn't real time debugging a must? Java dev has it, .NET has it. I remember explaining to someone that ColdFusion did not have debugging (other than CFDUMP) which was greeted with laughter and contempt. I do not think there is any excuse not to have it - it's a must and only cements my feelings they are wasting time with adding useless features when real additions are being deferred in true MM style. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tue Jul 11 09:47:56 2006 Subject: Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG! Maybe yes, maybe no. I remember the pre-MX debugger and let me tell you, I never used it. If I did a survey of the pre-MX people, I'd bet that a very small percentage used it. But that was a different time. ColdFusion has grown since then, the community has matured since then and a real debugger is now something we can appreciate. Michael Dinowitz President: House of Fusion http://www.houseoffusion.com Publisher: Fusion Authority http://www.fusionauthority.com Adobe Community Expert - Original Message - From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:09 AM Subject: Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG! But I think you will agree it should be in ColdFusion out of the box :-) ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246063 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG!
Let's hope free :-) I would 100-200 bucks depending on license type. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Michael Traher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tue Jul 11 11:23:21 2006 Subject: Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG! Anybody know what the cost of the debug plugin will be? Ballpark? On 7/11/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, if the future of ColdFusion is becoming more advanced isn't real time debugging a must? Java dev has it, .NET has it. I remember explaining to someone that ColdFusion did not have debugging (other than CFDUMP) which was greeted with laughter and contempt. I do not think there is any excuse not to have it - it's a must and only cements my feelings they are wasting time with adding useless features when real additions are being deferred in true MM style. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tue Jul 11 09:47:56 2006 Subject: Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG! Maybe yes, maybe no. I remember the pre-MX debugger and let me tell you, I never used it. If I did a survey of the pre-MX people, I'd bet that a very small percentage used it. But that was a different time. ColdFusion has grown since then, the community has matured since then and a real debugger is now something we can appreciate. Michael Dinowitz President: House of Fusion http://www.houseoffusion.com Publisher: Fusion Authority http://www.fusionauthority.com Adobe Community Expert - Original Message - From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:09 AM Subject: Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG! But I think you will agree it should be in ColdFusion out of the box :-) ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246064 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...
Do a find for all the .zip files in the Program Files folder :-) The way I got it was to run the installer, and then when it was unpacked and Dude, I still can't find it anywhere on here. Searched and searched it's like the Flex bermuda triangle! Is there any way you could shoot me your coldfusion_flex.zip? Thanks, Will ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246065 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG!
On Tuesday 11 July 2006 11:06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: Let's hope free :-) I would 100-200 bucks depending on license type. I'm not sure we'd find it useful enough to pay for it. It doesn't take *that* long to go add some debugging, and you can always cfsavecontent and cffile action=save to get a log of complex types. -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246066 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...
On Tuesday 11 July 2006 11:28, Will Tomlinson wrote: Dude, I still can't find it anywhere on here. Searched and searched it's like the Flex bermuda triangle! Oddness. Is there any way you could shoot me your coldfusion_flex.zip? Try here: http://www.cfreport.org/downloads/CF_FB_Extensions.zip -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246067 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Adobe Partnership Program
Bryan did you ever hear anything, can you share it with the list? jonese On 7/10/06, Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey All, Has anyone heard if/when the new post merger partnership program will be revived? The nice folks at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (yes I know it's Adobe, but that's the only contact info left on the Adobe site) have stopped answering my mails. So if anyone can poke the folks at Adobe (or if they are listening)please do ;-) Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246069 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Coldspring
It took me a few seconds to find it - navigation is traditionally on the left. On 7/11/06, Dave Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm, I am sure when I went to the site, clicked the main nav for docs it didn't take me to a doc site? H. Will need to look into this further! Maybe you didn't see the sub-navigation over on the right. This is the Documentation landing page: http://www.coldspringframework.org/index.cfm?objectid=B9D03AF1-EF2D-D8C3-3F3A7041016DE029 Let me know if you think people will go to this page and not think we have any documentation. thanks, Dave Ross http://www.coldspringframework.org ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246070 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Coldspring
The best way to learn about it is to download it, read the included pdf and give it a go. If it still doesn't seem like something useful to you, then you don't have to use it. -- Matt Williams It's the question that drives us. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246071 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Coldspring
It looks as if ColdSpring plays a big part in the new Model-Glue framework - Model-Glue:Unity. Perhaps looking through the docs/source code of MG:U will help explain what coldspring does. (I haven't had a chance to do either, but I would also like to know). Russ -Original Message- From: Matt Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:21 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Coldspring The best way to learn about it is to download it, read the included pdf and give it a go. If it still doesn't seem like something useful to you, then you don't have to use it. -- Matt Williams It's the question that drives us. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246072 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Coldspring
I think coldspring starts to come into its own once the number of related objects in a project reaches a critical mass. (not sure what that critical mass is) If there is a chance of the number of objects growing and there being lots of relationships and dependencies between objects then I would now consider coldspring from the start so that it will be easy to make these changes/additions in a painless way. On 7/11/06, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks as if ColdSpring plays a big part in the new Model-Glue framework - Model-Glue:Unity. Perhaps looking through the docs/source code of MG:U will help explain what coldspring does. (I haven't had a chance to do either, but I would also like to know). Russ -Original Message- From: Matt Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:21 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Coldspring The best way to learn about it is to download it, read the included pdf and give it a go. If it still doesn't seem like something useful to you, then you don't have to use it. -- Matt Williams It's the question that drives us. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246073 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Coldspring
On Tuesday 11 July 2006 13:41, Michael Traher wrote: If there is a chance of the number of objects growing and there being lots of relationships and dependencies between objects then I would now consider coldspring from the start so that it will be easy to make these changes/additions in a painless way. It's so light weight and quick, I'd consider using it even if you don't expect the relationships to change, because it enforces good separation of concerns, even if it's just 2 or 3 objects. -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246074 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: GPG and cfexecute, or...
Yes, as the cf user everything works perfectly from the command line. I got around my original problem using Wayne Graham's java wrapper when Wayne looked at the code and figured out that the problems were due to the location of the keyring in the newer versions. Creating the environment variable GNUPGHOME and pointing that to the keyring directory solved everything. I still can't get the cfexecute bit to work though, but using the CFC is better anyway. * Ken Ferguson 214.636.6126 * Tom Chiverton wrote: On Monday 10 July 2006 17:11, Ken Ferguson wrote: Absolutely, everything works perfectly from the cmd line; no troubles at all. As the CF user ? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246075 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Coldspring
That's what's been ticking over in my head - I have user, roles and course units objects being instantiated in multiple main application components and this looks like a great way to keep track of them all. On 7/11/06, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 11 July 2006 13:41, Michael Traher wrote: If there is a chance of the number of objects growing and there being lots of relationships and dependencies between objects then I would now consider coldspring from the start so that it will be easy to make these changes/additions in a painless way. It's so light weight and quick, I'd consider using it even if you don't expect the relationships to change, because it enforces good separation of concerns, even if it's just 2 or 3 objects. -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246076 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: GPG and cfexecute, or...
That's an interesting thought - so I set up a scheduled task to run a batch file to write the fingerprints output to a file and let the task run when there was no activity. It ran fine while I was away making coffee and the output file was there with the info in it when I got back with a full cup and a pop tart. * Ken Ferguson 214.636.6126 * Tom Chiverton wrote: On Tuesday 11 July 2006 10:18, Russ wrote: coldfusion, it can't get it's entropy and therefore blocks. Just a though. I'd hope it uses CPU interrupts or something, which will still be generated as long as the disk is spinning :-) Maybe Ken could try setting a timeout of several minutes to see what happens ? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246077 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Regulazy - Visual Regular Expressions builder...
Check this out... http://tools.osherove.com/Regulazy/tabid/182/Default.aspx Looks like it could be a really handy tool once it's made it to a full release. !//-- andy matthews web developer certified advanced coldfusion programmer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246078 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: GPG and cfexecute, or...
I wonder where GPG gets it's source of entropy, since there's no /dev/random or /dev/urandom on windows... I guess it's just some pseudo windows random numbers which can probably be easily cracked... -Original Message- From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:28 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: GPG and cfexecute, or... That's an interesting thought - so I set up a scheduled task to run a batch file to write the fingerprints output to a file and let the task run when there was no activity. It ran fine while I was away making coffee and the output file was there with the info in it when I got back with a full cup and a pop tart. * Ken Ferguson 214.636.6126 * Tom Chiverton wrote: On Tuesday 11 July 2006 10:18, Russ wrote: coldfusion, it can't get it's entropy and therefore blocks. Just a though. I'd hope it uses CPU interrupts or something, which will still be generated as long as the disk is spinning :-) Maybe Ken could try setting a timeout of several minutes to see what happens ? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246079 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: GPG and cfexecute, or...
On Tuesday 11 July 2006 14:28, Ken Ferguson wrote: coffee and the output file was there with the info in it when I got back with a full cup and a pop tart. \o/ Now try running a script that records current time, runs gpg, records current time, and see how long it takes ? -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246080 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
CF install in a multi-server setup
I'm about to do my first coldfusion install without doing the standalone server.. we've decided to go with the multi-server setup, but I'm confused about how that works with a single web server (IIS 7) and multiple web sites. How do you configure different web sites to use different instances of Coldfusion? Can you configure different PARTS of a single web site to use different instances of Coldfusion? (CFMX 7 Enterprise, Windows Server 2003) Rick ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246081 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: CF install in a multi-server setup
I believe you use the web server configuration utility wsconfig (also runs automatically as part of the install) to configure individual iis sites for this instance of CF. There was also a discussion on how to do it for apache (involves some handcoding instead of wsconfig). I don't think you can make different instances run different parts of the site, unless you set up a separate IIS site and maybe use a different host header or something. Russ -Original Message- From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:42 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF install in a multi-server setup I'm about to do my first coldfusion install without doing the standalone server.. we've decided to go with the multi-server setup, but I'm confused about how that works with a single web server (IIS 7) and multiple web sites. How do you configure different web sites to use different instances of Coldfusion? Can you configure different PARTS of a single web site to use different instances of Coldfusion? (CFMX 7 Enterprise, Windows Server 2003) Rick ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246082 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software amp; Servers
So I hate to sound like I'm kissing Adobe's rear, but it's not like they haven't been adding features. I agree that this stuff would be cool in CF, but you aren't going to see major features in a point release. Do remember 7 isn't that old yet. Adobe is working on CF8 and you should use the /go/wish page to send this suggestion to them. On 7/11/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judith kinda added some worth here when she posted about the new debug tool for ColdFusion - Adobe/Macromedia have neglected both of areas addressed by this softare house' tools. A debug tool and a FusionReactor / SeeFusion should be in ColdFusion by default THIS is where more effort needs to be made. Look at the debacle which is Flash Forms - a real-time debugger is surely more important than eye-candy input forms mixed into HTML which hardly anyone used! If Adobe had any sense they would buy this company and get some features it should have anyway pronto. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tue Jul 11 00:18:48 2006 Subject: Re: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software amp; Servers Raymond Camden wrote: You do know there is more than one product being worked on at Adobe right now? ;) 7.0.2. wasn't just Flex support, it also included other fixes as well as rolling up hot fixes since the last release. Anyway - I think Adobe is probably big enough to work on Flex and not neglect CF. I wouldn't worry. ;) Well there ya go! I personally have been very happy with CF 7 and found very few issues . none actually, and I'm happy to see the Flex support. As are a LOT of other people. Rick ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246083 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Regulazy - Visual Regular Expressions builder...
That does look pretty cool. Right now, I swear by the RegEx Coach ( http://weitz.de/regex-coach/ ), but it only helps you evaluate regular expression, not build them. I am always looking for the best thing out there. ... Ben Nadel www.bennadel.com -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:27 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Regulazy - Visual Regular Expressions builder... Check this out... http://tools.osherove.com/Regulazy/tabid/182/Default.aspx Looks like it could be a really handy tool once it's made it to a full release. !//-- andy matthews web developer certified advanced coldfusion programmer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246084 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: GPG and cfexecute, or...
well, for gpg --fingerprint, it took a couple of milliseconds. To encrypt a 30MB file took it just about 3.2 seconds. (all with no mouse/kb activity). * Ken Ferguson 214.636.6126 * Tom Chiverton wrote: On Tuesday 11 July 2006 14:28, Ken Ferguson wrote: coffee and the output file was there with the info in it when I got back with a full cup and a pop tart. \o/ Now try running a script that records current time, runs gpg, records current time, and see how long it takes ? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246085 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Coldspring
Ok, I made a few changes in the site templates to make second-level pages display their navigation directly below the content. Hopefully that will make it easier to find everything! -Dave It took me a few seconds to find it - navigation is traditionally on the left. On 7/11/06, Dave Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246086 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Regulazy - Visual Regular Expressions builder...
On Tuesday 11 July 2006 14:26, Andy Matthews wrote: Looks like it could be a really handy tool once it's made it to a full release. Except it (can) build expressions that have MS specific bits in (like the variable naming). -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246088 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: CF install in a multi-server setup
Yes you can actually. In IIS, you can edit any file or folder and change the ISAPI filter to use a different connector. Snake -Original Message- From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 July 2006 14:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF install in a multi-server setup I believe you use the web server configuration utility wsconfig (also runs automatically as part of the install) to configure individual iis sites for this instance of CF. There was also a discussion on how to do it for apache (involves some handcoding instead of wsconfig). I don't think you can make different instances run different parts of the site, unless you set up a separate IIS site and maybe use a different host header or something. Russ -Original Message- From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:42 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF install in a multi-server setup I'm about to do my first coldfusion install without doing the standalone server.. we've decided to go with the multi-server setup, but I'm confused about how that works with a single web server (IIS 7) and multiple web sites. How do you configure different web sites to use different instances of Coldfusion? Can you configure different PARTS of a single web site to use different instances of Coldfusion? (CFMX 7 Enterprise, Windows Server 2003) Rick ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246090 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CF install in a multi-server setup
On Tuesday 11 July 2006 14:46, Russ wrote: I don't think you can make different instances run different parts of the site, unless you set up a separate IIS site and maybe use a different host header or something. Or use some URL rewrite/proxy so that sub directories map to different servers. -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246089 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: CF install in a multi-server setup
Have a look at the post I made a few days ago on this subject. http://russ.michaels.me.uk/index.cfm/2006/7/8/Creating-new-secure-instances- with-ColdFusion-MX7-multi-server Snake -Original Message- From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 July 2006 14:42 To: CF-Talk Subject: CF install in a multi-server setup I'm about to do my first coldfusion install without doing the standalone server.. we've decided to go with the multi-server setup, but I'm confused about how that works with a single web server (IIS 7) and multiple web sites. How do you configure different web sites to use different instances of Coldfusion? Can you configure different PARTS of a single web site to use different instances of Coldfusion? (CFMX 7 Enterprise, Windows Server 2003) Rick ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246087 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Coldspring
That's going to work well, I'd say. It looks much more obvious now. On 7/11/06, Dave Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I made a few changes in the site templates to make second-level pages display their navigation directly below the content. Hopefully that will make it easier to find everything! -Dave It took me a few seconds to find it - navigation is traditionally on the left. On 7/11/06, Dave Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246091 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...
This is an excellent book on learning flex well worth a read, however I do believe it was for flex version 1.0 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0321255666/103-8367109-1247065?v=glancen=283155 Jose Diaz On 7/11/06, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 11 July 2006 11:28, Will Tomlinson wrote: Dude, I still can't find it anywhere on here. Searched and searched it's like the Flex bermuda triangle! Oddness. Is there any way you could shoot me your coldfusion_flex.zip? Try here: http://www.cfreport.org/downloads/CF_FB_Extensions.zip -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246092 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
where to find jrun-server.dtd
Anyone know where I can find the file jrun-server.dtd? The jrun.xml file has this listed in the header, but I can not find the file on Macromedia's or Adobe's website? ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? !DOCTYPE jrun-server PUBLIC -//Macromedia, Inc.//DTD jrun-server 4.0//EN http://www.macromedia.com/xml/dtds/jrun-server.dtd; jrun-server.../jrun-server Any ideas? -- Thanks, Troy ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246093 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: GPG and cfexecute, or...
On Tuesday 11 July 2006 15:19, Ken Ferguson wrote: well, for gpg --fingerprint, it took a couple of milliseconds. To encrypt a 30MB file took it just about 3.2 seconds. (all with no mouse/kb activity). Which sounds reasonable. Your setting a cfexecute timeout of about 10 seconds as I type, I take it ? -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246094 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Select * in SQL
I have a dumb question. Can someone point me to a definitive explanation of why select * in SQL is bad? I've found this : http://www.adopenstatic.com/faq/selectstarisbad.asp but I don't thing it effectively counters the argument But I need all of the columns in the table. Mind you, that I'm not looking for convincing for myself, rather I'm doing a code review, and want to be have a stronger footing for saying: Get rid of the select *'s. Terrence Ryan Senior Systems Programmer Wharton Computing and Information Technology E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246095 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Select * in SQL
like most best practices...it's subjective. for me, i like to look at the SQL and know specifically which columns I'm expecting. SELECT a.foo, a.bar, a.foobar a.somethingesle FROM myTable a goes further towards helping me debug my code than SELECT * FROM myTable it's a few seconds more to type out...but I'm typing it out once. I'm referring back to it frequently :) On 7/11/06, Ryan, Terrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a dumb question. Can someone point me to a definitive explanation of why select * in SQL is bad? I've found this : http://www.adopenstatic.com/faq/selectstarisbad.asp but I don't thing it effectively counters the argument But I need all of the columns in the table. Mind you, that I'm not looking for convincing for myself, rather I'm doing a code review, and want to be have a stronger footing for saying: Get rid of the select *'s. Terrence Ryan Senior Systems Programmer Wharton Computing and Information Technology E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246096 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Code Colors
I need to write some documentation and I need to included some code in the documentation. I would like to color the code that is in the documentation the way that Dreamweaver or Homesite does. Has anyone had to do this before? Is there anyway to do this easily? Or am I going to have to set the font color for each little bit of text. This is going to take forever. -- Thanks, Troy ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246097 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Select * in SQL
Hi Ryan, Here are some reasons: 1) You're pulling back every row in the specific table that you're dealing with which DBA's frown upon because you can cripple a database if you're not careful. 2) You're pulling back an unnecessarily large dataset especially if you only need a couple of columns which in terms requires more memory for processing by both the DBMS and CF. 3) You're not leveraging any of the indexing capabilities of the table (that is if its actually indexed) so you're performance will be somewhat degraded. I'm sure there's more and others will offer them up. Rey... Ryan, Terrence wrote: I have a dumb question. Can someone point me to a definitive explanation of why select * in SQL is bad? I've found this : http://www.adopenstatic.com/faq/selectstarisbad.asp but I don't thing it effectively counters the argument But I need all of the columns in the table. Mind you, that I'm not looking for convincing for myself, rather I'm doing a code review, and want to be have a stronger footing for saying: Get rid of the select *'s. Terrence Ryan Senior Systems Programmer Wharton Computing and Information Technology E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246098 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Select * in SQL
When you use *, the database has to do a lookup to figure out what the actual column names are in the table, then do the actual select statement. If you explicitly tell it what column names (even if you want all of them), you eliminate that overhead. Ryan, Terrence wrote: I have a dumb question. Can someone point me to a definitive explanation of why select * in SQL is bad? I've found this : http://www.adopenstatic.com/faq/selectstarisbad.asp but I don't thing it effectively counters the argument But I need all of the columns in the table. Mind you, that I'm not looking for convincing for myself, rather I'm doing a code review, and want to be have a stronger footing for saying: Get rid of the select *'s. Terrence Ryan Senior Systems Programmer Wharton Computing and Information Technology E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246099 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Select * in SQL
If you actually need every one of the columns in a single (or multiple) row(s) then select * saves time. Isn't that we all try to do, save ourselves time? Why not in this case? !//-- andy matthews web developer certified advanced coldfusion programmer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: Ryan, Terrence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:05 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Select * in SQL I have a dumb question. Can someone point me to a definitive explanation of why select * in SQL is bad? I've found this : http://www.adopenstatic.com/faq/selectstarisbad.asp but I don't thing it effectively counters the argument But I need all of the columns in the table. Mind you, that I'm not looking for convincing for myself, rather I'm doing a code review, and want to be have a stronger footing for saying: Get rid of the select *'s. Terrence Ryan Senior Systems Programmer Wharton Computing and Information Technology E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246100 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Select * in SQL
Typically if you ever have DB developers managing tables or if your data layer is truly separate from your other layers, then in theory, your tables could change (i.e., someone could add more columns that you *don't* need) at any time. If you were using select *, then you will retrieve unnecessary columns without knowing it. Additionally, I believe it's faster for the SQL engines to parse explicit column names instead of *. It's also more readable for someone else to explicitly know what is being retrieved in a query when debugging or examining code. Ryan, Terrence wrote: I have a dumb question. Can someone point me to a definitive explanation of why select * in SQL is bad? I've found this : http://www.adopenstatic.com/faq/selectstarisbad.asp but I don't thing it effectively counters the argument But I need all of the columns in the table. Mind you, that I'm not looking for convincing for myself, rather I'm doing a code review, and want to be have a stronger footing for saying: Get rid of the select *'s. Terrence Ryan Senior Systems Programmer Wharton Computing and Information Technology E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246101 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Code Colors
Screen capture the code and include it as an image instead? Troy Simpson wrote: I need to write some documentation and I need to included some code in the documentation. I would like to color the code that is in the documentation the way that Dreamweaver or Homesite does. Has anyone had to do this before? Is there anyway to do this easily? Or am I going to have to set the font color for each little bit of text. This is going to take forever. -- ~~~ Ray Champagne :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246102 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Select * in SQL
I have a dumb question. Can someone point me to a definitive explanation of why select * in SQL is bad? There are various performance-related reasons, none of which is that strong in my opinion. However, it's generally bad to introduce unnecessary ambiguity, which is what * does. Are you using it because you're too lazy to explicitly list the columns? Are you actually using all of the columns? What exactly are the columns? None of these questions can be answered by someone reading your code, and that's bad. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246103 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Code Colors
http://cfregex.com/cfcomet/utilities/CF_ColoredCode_v3-2.zip On 7/11/06, Troy Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to write some documentation and I need to included some code in the documentation. I would like to color the code that is in the documentation the way that Dreamweaver or Homesite does. Has anyone had to do this before? Is there anyway to do this easily? Or am I going to have to set the font color for each little bit of text. This is going to take forever. -- Thanks, Troy ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246104 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Select * in SQL
What everyone else said... Plus, when you use select * , you are more likely to get sql table structure caching issues if you change the structure of your table. That's where that lame error like : ColdFusion: Error Occurred While Processing Request N = N When you type out your columns, that never happens. ... Ben Nadel www.bennadel.com -Original Message- From: Ryan, Terrence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 11:05 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Select * in SQL I have a dumb question. Can someone point me to a definitive explanation of why select * in SQL is bad? I've found this : http://www.adopenstatic.com/faq/selectstarisbad.asp but I don't thing it effectively counters the argument But I need all of the columns in the table. Mind you, that I'm not looking for convincing for myself, rather I'm doing a code review, and want to be have a stronger footing for saying: Get rid of the select *'s. Terrence Ryan Senior Systems Programmer Wharton Computing and Information Technology E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246105 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: CF install in a multi-server setup
I believe you use the web server configuration utility wsconfig (also runs automatically as part of the install) to configure individual iis sites for this instance of CF. There was also a discussion on how to do it for apache (involves some handcoding instead of wsconfig). I don't think you can make different instances run different parts of the site, unless you set up a separate IIS site and maybe use a different host header or something. You can, but as with Apache you'll have to do some of it manually. In IIS, you create virtual applications for this. Virtual applications are similar to virtual directories, but they also have their own application settings - pooling, ISAPI filters and extensions, etc. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246106 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Select * in SQL
On 7/11/06, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you actually need every one of the columns in a single (or multiple) row(s) then select * saves time. Isn't that we all try to do, save ourselves time? Why not in this case? because it doesn't save time in the long run when you're trying to maintain or debug your code down the road and you find yourself wondering which columns specifically are coming back from the query. I'd rather pay up front and save time down the road. -- Charlie Griefer ...All the world shall be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with a swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246108 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Select * in SQL
I have a dumb question. Can someone point me to a definitive explanation of why select * in SQL is bad? SELECT * is not bad if you need ALL columns. If you only need a subset of columns in a table, it is better to list them explicitely, otherwise the query will unefficiently return unused data. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246107 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Code Colors
I have a cfc that generates styled HTML that does it for me. Using it to do that might be a bit of a cludge, but I'd be happy to share it with you. But it has difficulty with complex code. Terrence Ryan Senior Systems Programmer Wharton Computing and Information Technology E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Troy Simpson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 11:11 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Code Colors I need to write some documentation and I need to included some code in the documentation. I would like to color the code that is in the documentation the way that Dreamweaver or Homesite does. Has anyone had to do this before? Is there anyway to do this easily? Or am I going to have to set the font color for each little bit of text. This is going to take forever. -- Thanks, Troy ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246109 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Select * in SQL
The best reason that I've found in working with CF is that CF or the driver sometimes does a weird caching thing and if you make a change in the underlying table, they won't pick it up. When that happens, it doesn't save you any time, as you'll spend extra time trying to figure out why what once worked no longer does. On 7/11/06, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you actually need every one of the columns in a single (or multiple) row(s) then select * saves time. Isn't that we all try to do, save ourselves time? Why not in this case? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246110 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Select * in SQL
1) You're pulling back every row in the specific table Read Every column ;-/ 3) You're not leveraging any of the indexing capabilities of the table ??? How come? Any available index can still be used depending on the WHERE and ORDER BY clauses. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246111 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Select * in SQL
When you use *, the database has to do a lookup to figure out what the actual column names are in the table, then do the actual select statement. If you explicitly tell it what column names (even if you want all of them), you eliminate that overhead. I don't agree with this argument: 1) any decent driver will check the list of columns you supply any way, to make sure all columns exist. 2) with * the driver can get columns in their natural order in the database, and this may imply less manipulation while reading data. If you supply the list of all columns, the driver will probabily try to return the columns in the same order in the dataset. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246112 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Select * in SQL
Thanks to all who responded. You have given me a better set of answers now. Terrence Ryan Senior Systems Programmer Wharton Computing and Information Technology E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ryan, Terrence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 11:05 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Select * in SQL I have a dumb question. Can someone point me to a definitive explanation of why select * in SQL is bad? I've found this : http://www.adopenstatic.com/faq/selectstarisbad.asp but I don't thing it effectively counters the argument But I need all of the columns in the table. Mind you, that I'm not looking for convincing for myself, rather I'm doing a code review, and want to be have a stronger footing for saying: Get rid of the select *'s. Terrence Ryan Senior Systems Programmer Wharton Computing and Information Technology E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246113 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Coldspring
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Re: Select * in SQL
because it doesn't save time in the long run when you're trying to maintain or debug your code down the road and you find yourself wondering which columns specifically are coming back from the query. Well, this is only when you are wondering which columns specifically are coming back from the query, but you can always get this information from some othe development tool, and SELECT * ALWAYS saves you time when you write a query (provided you DO need all columns, of course) -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246115 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Select * in SQL
Heres a real world scenario I've come across: Code throughout the app is using data returned from a query that has select *, and pulls data from more than one table. Someone adds a column to one of the tables in the query that has the same name as a column in another of the tables in the query. CF now returns a query with 2 columns named the same and your data is funked up all over the site because using query.columnname is referencing the wrong column. Rey Bango wrote: Hi Ryan, Here are some reasons: 1) You're pulling back every row in the specific table that you're dealing with which DBA's frown upon because you can cripple a database if you're not careful. 2) You're pulling back an unnecessarily large dataset especially if you only need a couple of columns which in terms requires more memory for processing by both the DBMS and CF. 3) You're not leveraging any of the indexing capabilities of the table (that is if its actually indexed) so you're performance will be somewhat degraded. I'm sure there's more and others will offer them up. Rey... Ryan, Terrence wrote: I have a dumb question. Can someone point me to a definitive explanation of why select * in SQL is bad? I've found this : http://www.adopenstatic.com/faq/selectstarisbad.asp but I don't thing it effectively counters the argument But I need all of the columns in the table. Mind you, that I'm not looking for convincing for myself, rather I'm doing a code review, and want to be have a stronger footing for saying: Get rid of the select *'s. Terrence Ryan Senior Systems Programmer Wharton Computing and Information Technology E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246116 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: GPG and cfexecute, or...
On Jul 10, 2006, at 11:43 AM, Tom Chiverton wrote:
On Monday 10 July 2006 16:33, Ryan, Terrence wrote:
Depending on the OS of the ColdFusion server (Windows 2003, or XP) it
could be that DEP is blocking GPG.
In which case you wouldn't be able to run it by hand either.
You did try that, right Ken ? :-)
On Windows there are different permissions for a regular user versus
the account used for IIS et al, which can cause problems especially
with anything that uses either the registry or account home directory
(%HOME%). Try running the same GPG commands on your account and
search both the registry and your C:\Documents and Settings\
{username} directory for files created by GPG - odds are that you
will find files that you then have to recreate for the IIS_WEBUSR
account (or whatever IIS uses).
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RE: Select * in SQL
Thanks. Actually, there's a raft of reasons from this thread. All good ones too. Thanks cf-talk! !//-- andy matthews web developer certified advanced coldfusion programmer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:24 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Select * in SQL On 7/11/06, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you actually need every one of the columns in a single (or multiple) row(s) then select * saves time. Isn't that we all try to do, save ourselves time? Why not in this case? because it doesn't save time in the long run when you're trying to maintain or debug your code down the road and you find yourself wondering which columns specifically are coming back from the query. I'd rather pay up front and save time down the road. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246118 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...
This book, written by one of my mates, was good for Flex 1 but it is so outdated you may as well just use LiveDocs! This book is up their side by side with my Spectra book ah Spectra This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Jose Diaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tue Jul 11 15:38:52 2006 Subject: Re: Flex / Coldfusion question... This is an excellent book on learning flex well worth a read, however I do believe it was for flex version 1.0 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0321255666/103-8367109-1247065?v=glancen=2 83155 Jose Diaz On 7/11/06, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 11 July 2006 11:28, Will Tomlinson wrote: Dude, I still can't find it anywhere on here. Searched and searched it's like the Flex bermuda triangle! Oddness. Is there any way you could shoot me your coldfusion_flex.zip? Try here: http://www.cfreport.org/downloads/CF_FB_Extensions.zip -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246119 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: GPG and cfexecute, or...
And Robert's your father's brother... I had changed the timeout to 5 on the encryption and concluded that wasn't the issue when it didn't help. I just changed it to 7 and it works fine. If I wasn't such a knucklehead, I'd have changed this on the --fingerprints code and 2 would have worked fine... I still find it strange that a timeout of 1 doesn't work for --fingerprints when it only takes a couple of milliseconds to run. Thanks a lot Tom. Maybe I'll need that again later. I guess, if I ever go back to using cfexecute for this, I'll set the timeout to something even longer in case I've a need to encrypt something really large... * Ken Ferguson 214.636.6126 * Tom Chiverton wrote: On Tuesday 11 July 2006 15:19, Ken Ferguson wrote: well, for gpg --fingerprint, it took a couple of milliseconds. To encrypt a 30MB file took it just about 3.2 seconds. (all with no mouse/kb activity). Which sounds reasonable. Your setting a cfexecute timeout of about 10 seconds as I type, I take it ? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246120 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: GPG and cfexecute, or...
I wonder where GPG gets it's source of entropy, since there's no /dev/random or /dev/urandom on windows... I guess it's just some pseudo windows random numbers which can probably be easily cracked... Uh, you do know that all random numbers on computers are pseudo-random, right? And that /dev/random is just a program, not some magic entropy provider? The analog of /dev/random on Windows is contained within the MS CryptoAPI seed functions, if I recall correctly. There are also third-party randomization libraries available, some of which use peer-reviewed pseudo-random number generation algorithms. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246121 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Complex object types - a little help?
It's also the name of a ColdFusion scope, which can cause a lot of other weirdness. I suggest using a different variable name. -Original Message- From: Nathan C. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 2:28 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Complex object types - a little help? Argh! That be pirate speak for messin' up. I was referring to 'client' which was my loop index and also a field in the query. Thanks All for the pointers though! -Nate ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246122 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Select * in SQL
On 7/11/06, Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: because it doesn't save time in the long run when you're trying to maintain or debug your code down the road and you find yourself wondering which columns specifically are coming back from the query. Well, this is only when you are wondering which columns specifically are coming back from the query, but you can always get this information from some othe development tool, and SELECT * ALWAYS saves you time when you write a query (provided you DO need all columns, of course) Seems to me that it would save time to not have to look to another development tool to get the information. Of course it always saves time when you write. But it could potentially cost your (or others) time in maintaining the code. I'd rather pay up front. -- Charlie Griefer ...All the world shall be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with a swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246123 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Select * in SQL
A well-written driver would then throw an ambiguous column name error, if that happens. First, you would need to create a table alias: SELECT t1.* FROM table1 t1 Then, if you add a column, as you mention, that query would not return the newly-added column. You would need to do: SELECT t1.*, t2.* FROM table1 t1 INNER JOIN table2 t2 ON t1.id = t2.fk I don't usually specify table aliases, but this is a good case of why you should. When I join tables, however, I do always use a table alias. It makes it much easier to see where the columns originate. I also think a SELECT * puts a somewhat-larget hit on the DB than specifying all column names. I think it is because the DB must look up all of the column names before it can validate the column names. If you specify the column names, then the DB can skip the column name lookup step before validating the column names. I'm waiting for Jochem to give the final answer on this... M!ke -Original Message- From: Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Select * in SQL Heres a real world scenario I've come across: Code throughout the app is using data returned from a query that has select *, and pulls data from more than one table. Someone adds a column to one of the tables in the query that has the same name as a column in another of the tables in the query. CF now returns a query with 2 columns named the same and your data is funked up all over the site because using query.columnname is referencing the wrong column. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246124 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: coldfusion and PDFs
Well, the subject is misleading, I was trying to get attention to this thread. Your strategy doesn't appear to be successful. I submit you'd have better success with a more specific subject. One of our clients is asking us for the ability to, say given a pdf link, be able to sort of gradual page the file. Meaning when user clicks on it, he first gets only the table of contents page, and as he clicks on each itme inteh toc, he will be able to go browse thru the file. Meaning on the first click, the whole pdf file shouldn't be downloaded only the toc page. Is this sort of thing even possible? any pointers to online resources are really appreciated. Also I have a page with some pictures and pdf links on it. If I want to generate ano ther pdf for download which all these pictures, text and content of the pdf links, is that possible Well, PDFs can be published so that they will be downloaded gradually. This is an option in Acrobat. It also requires a web server that knows how to byte serve requests. http://www.planetpdf.com/enterprise/article.asp?ContentID=6193 http://www.searchpdf.com/id419.htm However, if you're generating your PDFs using CFDOCUMENT, I don't think this is an option. In addition, if you're serving them through CF via CFCONTENT, I don't think that will work either. You would need to generate your PDF directly with iText (I think it supports this, but am not sure), then give the user a link or a redirect to the generated PDF. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246125 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG!
Will this be streamed? Or how about on youtube later? :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 11:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: ColdFuson Debug Tool To Premiere at NYCFUG! Tomorrow night is our monthly NYCFUG (http://www.nycfug.org) meeting! ** Michael Dinowitz, head of House of Fusion, will be demoing the beta version of FusionDebug (http://www.fusion-reactor.com/fusiondebug/), a hot new debugger for ColdFusion (from the makers of FusionReactor) that will work in any Eclipse environment! ** He will also be talking about some of House of Fusion's new projects, including the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update (http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly), recently released at CFUNITED. ** Tobe Goldfinger will be talking about the CFUNITED conference. Don't miss it! RSVP at http://www.nycfug.org. Judith Dinowitz Co-manager New York ColdFusion User Group http://www.nycfug.org/ ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246126 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: coldfusion and PDFs
Yeah, and indeed loads of cool software to do it with! This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tue Jul 11 17:05:36 2006 Subject: RE: coldfusion and PDFs Well, the subject is misleading, I was trying to get attention to this thread. Your strategy doesn't appear to be successful. I submit you'd have better success with a more specific subject. One of our clients is asking us for the ability to, say given a pdf link, be able to sort of gradual page the file. Meaning when user clicks on it, he first gets only the table of contents page, and as he clicks on each itme inteh toc, he will be able to go browse thru the file. Meaning on the first click, the whole pdf file shouldn't be downloaded only the toc page. Is this sort of thing even possible? any pointers to online resources are really appreciated. Also I have a page with some pictures and pdf links on it. If I want to generate ano ther pdf for download which all these pictures, text and content of the pdf links, is that possible Well, PDFs can be published so that they will be downloaded gradually. This is an option in Acrobat. It also requires a web server that knows how to byte serve requests. http://www.planetpdf.com/enterprise/article.asp?ContentID=6193 http://www.searchpdf.com/id419.htm However, if you're generating your PDFs using CFDOCUMENT, I don't think this is an option. In addition, if you're serving them through CF via CFCONTENT, I don't think that will work either. You would need to generate your PDF directly with iText (I think it supports this, but am not sure), then give the user a link or a redirect to the generated PDF. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246127 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Select * in SQL
Correct, with a join you have to alias or use FQN or you get ambiguous column errors. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Dawson, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tue Jul 11 17:03:20 2006 Subject: RE: Select * in SQL A well-written driver would then throw an ambiguous column name error, if that happens. First, you would need to create a table alias: SELECT t1.* FROM table1 t1 Then, if you add a column, as you mention, that query would not return the newly-added column. You would need to do: SELECT t1.*, t2.* FROM table1 t1 INNER JOIN table2 t2 ON t1.id = t2.fk I don't usually specify table aliases, but this is a good case of why you should. When I join tables, however, I do always use a table alias. It makes it much easier to see where the columns originate. I also think a SELECT * puts a somewhat-larget hit on the DB than specifying all column names. I think it is because the DB must look up all of the column names before it can validate the column names. If you specify the column names, then the DB can skip the column name lookup step before validating the column names. I'm waiting for Jochem to give the final answer on this... M!ke -Original Message- From: Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Select * in SQL Heres a real world scenario I've come across: Code throughout the app is using data returned from a query that has select *, and pulls data from more than one table. Someone adds a column to one of the tables in the query that has the same name as a column in another of the tables in the query. CF now returns a query with 2 columns named the same and your data is funked up all over the site because using query.columnname is referencing the wrong column. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246128 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Select * in SQL
Yes, but wouldn't that would have screwed up things even if you would have been using explicit column names? !//-- andy matthews web developer certified advanced coldfusion programmer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Select * in SQL Heres a real world scenario I've come across: Code throughout the app is using data returned from a query that has select *, and pulls data from more than one table. Someone adds a column to one of the tables in the query that has the same name as a column in another of the tables in the query. CF now returns a query with 2 columns named the same and your data is funked up all over the site because using query.columnname is referencing the wrong column. Rey Bango wrote: Hi Ryan, Here are some reasons: 1) You're pulling back every row in the specific table that you're dealing with which DBA's frown upon because you can cripple a database if you're not careful. 2) You're pulling back an unnecessarily large dataset especially if you only need a couple of columns which in terms requires more memory for processing by both the DBMS and CF. 3) You're not leveraging any of the indexing capabilities of the table (that is if its actually indexed) so you're performance will be somewhat degraded. I'm sure there's more and others will offer them up. Rey... Ryan, Terrence wrote: I have a dumb question. Can someone point me to a definitive explanation of why select * in SQL is bad? I've found this : http://www.adopenstatic.com/faq/selectstarisbad.asp but I don't thing it effectively counters the argument But I need all of the columns in the table. Mind you, that I'm not looking for convincing for myself, rather I'm doing a code review, and want to be have a stronger footing for saying: Get rid of the select *'s. Terrence Ryan Senior Systems Programmer Wharton Computing and Information Technology E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246129 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Select * in SQL
Heres a real world scenario I've come across: Code throughout the app is using data returned from a query that has select *, and pulls data from more than one table. Someone adds a column to one of the tables in the query that has the same name as a column in another of the tables in the query. CF now returns a query with 2 columns named the same and your data is funked up all over the site because using query.columnname is referencing the wrong column. Some people disagree with this, but I recommend using a naming convention that makes this impossible. In other words, one where the table name can be inferred from the column name. Nick ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246130 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF install in a multi-server setup
To remove any complexity at the start, here's a quick high-level look at the process that I like to use: 1. Install CF in multiserver mode. During this process CF will ask you to configure your webserver. Don't configure IIS globally, but instead choose only the virtual site that will house your CFIDE directory structure. Your other sites will then be free to accept ties to additional CFMX application servers. Don't worry, if you miss this you can always remove incorrect configurations using the wsconfig tool. 2. Go into the CF Adminstrator and create new application servers (in the instance manager section, I believe it's called). If you don't need a separate jvm.config for each instance then you can simply create them and go. If you do then you'll want to uncheck the Create Windows Service checkboxes (actual label text may vary) and run the jrunsvc utility for each service you create. 3. Run the wsconfig utility to connect a given IIS virtual site to each of your application servers. Obviously, each step requires more detail, but sometimes it helps me to keep the whole overview simple and worry about the details at each individual step. You can use jrunsvc --help and wsconfig --help for assistance calling each utility, as required. On 7/11/06, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm about to do my first coldfusion install without doing the standalone server.. we've decided to go with the multi-server setup, but I'm confused about how that works with a single web server (IIS 7) and multiple web sites. How do you configure different web sites to use different instances of Coldfusion? Can you configure different PARTS of a single web site to use different instances of Coldfusion? (CFMX 7 Enterprise, Windows Server 2003) Rick ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246131 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Select * in SQL
Someone adds a column to one of the tables in the query that has the same name as a column in another of the tables in the query. If you're working in an environment in which any one can add columns or modify a table without othe programers being aware, then you will have have many more problems ;-) And what if some one just change the name of a column? -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246132 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Select * in SQL
Seems to me that it would save time to not have to look to another development tool to get the information. Depends which tool. Mine will generate a complete CFQUERY tag with all table and column names just by clicking on them. But I had to develop it myself ;-) -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246133 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Select * in SQL
Uh oh, a DB schema design argument brewing... :-) This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Nick de Voil [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tue Jul 11 17:14:21 2006 Subject: Re: Select * in SQL Heres a real world scenario I've come across: Code throughout the app is using data returned from a query that has select *, and pulls data from more than one table. Someone adds a column to one of the tables in the query that has the same name as a column in another of the tables in the query. CF now returns a query with 2 columns named the same and your data is funked up all over the site because using query.columnname is referencing the wrong column. Some people disagree with this, but I recommend using a naming convention that makes this impossible. In other words, one where the table name can be inferred from the column name. Nick ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246134 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Select * in SQL
Oh yes, when you go out to troubleshoot other companies apps you certainly do come across many more problems. Not a good example of where explicit alias + naming would have been handy? OK, sorry bout that. Claude Schneegans wrote: Someone adds a column to one of the tables in the query that has the same name as a column in another of the tables in the query. If you're working in an environment in which any one can add columns or modify a table without othe programers being aware, then you will have have many more problems ;-) And what if some one just change the name of a column? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246135 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Select * in SQL
Select * is for whimps, where they write a couple basic sql statements. select with column names is for the cool kids in town where we'd rather write it in SQL vs writing all those *Arrays, Structures, Multidimensional Arrays Arrays of Structures***. That's a slight crack on Kurtis D. Leathamhttp://www.cfunited.com/speakers.cfm#249. His session was awesome at cfunited, but those things can be eliminate to an extent with good sql. Writing basic SQL, who cares. use *, Writing hefty statements, with lots of joins and stuff, use table names. Casey On 7/11/06, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh yes, when you go out to troubleshoot other companies apps you certainly do come across many more problems. Not a good example of where explicit alias + naming would have been handy? OK, sorry bout that. Claude Schneegans wrote: Someone adds a column to one of the tables in the query that has the same name as a column in another of the tables in the query. If you're working in an environment in which any one can add columns or modify a table without othe programers being aware, then you will have have many more problems ;-) And what if some one just change the name of a column? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246136 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software amp; Servers
A debug tool and a FusionReactor / SeeFusion should be in ColdFusion by default THIS is where more effort needs to be made. I second that sentiment. I've written a few blog posts discussing debugging in CF. It used to be that CF's debugging was among the best for web scripting languages, but not any more. ASP, PHP, and Perl all have full blown professional level debuggers, but we are still stuck with cftrace, cfabort, etc. It's very painful. I'm fighting with a problem right now that's taking me hours to fix, but having break points, stepping, variable watching and such would dramatically cut my debug time. When this new tool from Webapper comes out I'll be buying it, if it's not too expensive. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246137 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
