Platform/Vendors Survey and ColdFusion Features Survey

2008-01-16 Thread Manju Kiran P Pacchhipulusu
Hi,

As part of the research for Centaur (next major version of ColdFusion
aka ColdFusion 9), we need your feedback on ColdFusion 8 features, what
enhancements do you need in them, what new features you want in the new
release etc.

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=yLcENFTqjkIn6gqoFpRiUQ_3d_3d

We would also like your inputs on platform and vendor support for
upcoming ColdFusion release.

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=_2fJgulePMz_2f1GM6FGV6uMUQ_3d_3d

Please do take some time to take these surveys.  This would really help
us shape the new features in the upcoming version. THIS is YOUR chance
to get your favorite features in!

Thanks & Regards,
Manjukiran
Adobe ColdFusion Team

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Re: exporting from a CF Application to MYOB

2008-01-16 Thread Mike Kear
There is a connector you can get to allow direct ODBC connection
between MYOB and a SQLServer (and other ) database.

I'm currently building an application where there is going to be
nightly transfers of data between a web site (customer supplied info
going into MYOB) and MYOB (updated credit limits going up to customer
records in the web site)

I'm not at my office for another 10 days but if you want i can send
you details of how to do it then.   If you cant wait that long,
contact support at MYOB and ask about a subscription to the connection
key for ODBC.  (You have to pay something each year to keep the key
working).

Hope this helps.

Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
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On Jan 16, 2008 1:04 AM, Rob Parkhill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Toby,
>
> I have done this, but it depends on the version of MYOB that you are running
> on.  My solution works on V 11, and since it has been removed from the
> shelves here in Canada, I can't confirm that it would work with any other
> verions.
>
> If that column order will help, I can get this to you.
>
> Rob
>

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Re: CFLdap

2008-01-16 Thread Joey Daly
Forgot to include the code, here ya go:



  





> Thanks in advance...
> 
> Trying to use CFLdap with AD to modify a users distribution group, 
> basically have the ability to move someone in and out of different 
> groups, getting this error:
> 
> coldfusion.tagext.net.LdapTagException: An error has occured while 
> trying to execute modify :[LDAP: error code 53 - 200A: SvcErr: 
> DSID-031A0B56, problem 5003 (WILL_NOT_PERFORM)
> 
> 
> Any help would be much appreciated! 


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CFLdap

2008-01-16 Thread Joey Daly
Thanks in advance...

Trying to use CFLdap with AD to modify a users distribution group, basically 
have the ability to move someone in and out of different groups, getting this 
error:

coldfusion.tagext.net.LdapTagException: An error has occured while trying to 
execute modify :[LDAP: error code 53 - 200A: SvcErr: DSID-031A0B56, problem 
5003 (WILL_NOT_PERFORM)


Any help would be much appreciated! 

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Re: CRUD Creation

2008-01-16 Thread s. isaac dealey
> I used to think that people do not care to see the primary key so in
> my last big application I did not display them(unique numeric IDs) in
> most places. After about 6-8 months it was found that the users want
> to see those keys and that they use them to reference things.  For
> example they rather say property ID 2806 instead of the Wireline
> property located in Rosharon, Tx on 22 Acatia Avenue.

Sure... However... 

What you're talking about here is complicated by the fact that you work
in an environment where you've got a bunch of business users in this
corporate environment who've all become accustomed to handling their
data that way. And part of the reason that they've become accustomed to
handling their data that way is likely a result of poor user interface
being left poor and having people simply "cope" with it rather than make
it good UI. For any given employee (programmers excepted), the
likelyhood is that they pretty much work with and share a very small set
of actual data (or aggregated reports on larger sets). 

These very small sets of data however are stored in very massive tables
containing the data sets for all the other employees as well, but when
they go work on them, the system doesn't make any distinction between
"stuff Bob works with most of the time" and "stuff Jim works with most
of the time". It just tosses the whole gigantic list at them
unceremoniously and says "you tell me what you want". 

So they've become accustomed to referencing things by number because
they're accustomed to searching for things in haystack-needle fashion.
Whereas if from the beginning they'd been given "learning" systems that
remembered that "Bob uses this property a lot, maybe we shouldn't force
him to search through 4-million records (3.9 million of which he's never
touched), for a property he uses every other day". Then Bob likely might
have acquired a habit of thinking about it as "Wireline" rather than
either "property 58" or "Wireline in Richardson, TX on 22 Acatia Avenue".
Either of the latter are rather cryptic and given the choice, "property
58" is probably the lesser of evils. But I'd bet that given a system
that learns about his habits and predicts them, he and the coworkers in
his team would be a lot happier thinking of the property as just
"Wireline". 

So that's my rant and I'm sticking to it. :) 

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Re: CRUD Creation

2008-01-16 Thread Dominic Watson
>
> But if you had 10 records and then deleted the 10th and then created a new
> record,
> you had a much greater risk of that record being contaminated with
> information from the previous record that had been there

..
Excellent point :)

I used to think it odd how dbs don't fill in the gaps with their auto ids.
So bleedin obvious ain't it!

Dominic


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Re: CRUD Creation

2008-01-16 Thread s. isaac dealey
> I think reading the article will make your mind up either way about
> the wisdom of not using 'auto increments' / surrogate pks (I realise
> they are not the same thing).

This in particular 

===
2) The definite possibility of historical data contamination. If you
leave your company, and somebody else comes in and is assigned
your old LAN ID, what will HR do with all of your old employee data, or
anything in the database that references your LAN ID?
===

Is an often overlooked but very important point. It used to be common in
ColdFusion (I think possibly before there were easy ways to fetch
inserted autonumber values), to determine the id of a record you're
about to insert by fetching the current max() of the primary key column
and adding 1 to it. Which although it worked, produces a
negative-scaling curve (i.e. the bigger your data set, the less it
scales). Most of the time the scaling wouldn't be an issue -- even with
millions of records you can get the max back reasonably quickly. If you
deleted any record in the middle of the stack you were fine too, since
it would just create a "hole" say between records 8 and 10. But if you
had 10 records and then deleted the 10th and then created a new record,
you had a much greater risk of that record being contaminated with
information from the previous record that had been there. And it might
not even be anything in your system - it might be something as simple as
a user having bookmarked a page with that id in the url. They hit their
bookmark and viola! Instead of "sorry this record has been deleted" they
get different data, and depending on the display, they may not realize
until after they'd done something tragic that they were editing the
wrong data. 

Imo poor handling of historical information is pretty pandemic in
software in general, I think mostly because we're kind of trained to
focus mostly on other contexts where the needs of the domain are
somewhat antithetical to the needs of a historical problem domain. 


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Re: CRUD Creation

2008-01-16 Thread Aaron Rouse
I used to think that people do not care to see the primary key so in my last
big application I did not display them(unique numeric IDs) in most places.
After about 6-8 months it was found that the users want to see those keys
and that they use them to reference things.  For example they rather say
property ID 2806 instead of the Wireline property located in Rosharon, Tx on
22 Acatia Avenue.

On Jan 16, 2008 9:49 PM, s. isaac dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > http://www.sqlteam.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6136&whichpage=1
>
> Heh... read the article... Had never heard anyone complain before about
> arbitrary primary keys... and honestly, it strikes me as being rather
> odd... I've only ever heard people complain about meaningful keys
> actually. But it just seems really odd to complain that "hey, it's a
> challenge to figure out who a person's boss is by looking at the primary
> key in this table directly" when I always thought it was sort of
> contrary to the notion of software for people to be looking at those
> primary keys. People don't want to see the key anyway, they want to see
> human values -- so why would it be a problem that something they don't
> want or need to see is confusing to look at?
>
>
> --
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> ph: 503.236.3691
>
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>
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Re: CRUD Creation

2008-01-16 Thread Dominic Watson
>
> Heh... read the article... Had never heard anyone complain before about
> arbitrary primary keys... and honestly, it strikes me as being rather
> odd... I've only ever heard people complain about meaningful keys
> actually. But it just seems really odd to complain that "hey, it's a
> challenge to figure out who a person's boss is by looking at the primary
> key in this table directly" when I always thought it was sort of
> contrary to the notion of software for people to be looking at those
> primary keys. People don't want to see the key anyway, they want to see
> human values -- so why would it be a problem that something they don't
> want or need to see is confusing to look at?


Agreed! This is exactly what the 'respected' Joe Celko preaches and it is
clearly dangerous.

It can creep up more subtly though as with the situation of the OPer. I have
found myself doing these things half by mistake and now conscious of the
issue am rectifying where possible. One example is writing facebook
applications; I store all my facebook users that interact with my app in a
user table and have been using the Facebook userID as the PK, a bigint.
Seemed ok enough until I wondered what happens when Facebook change their
userIDs from bigints to UUIDs... oops. I have corrected that one since
reading the article already. Obvious really, just needed going back to
school.

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Re: CRUD Creation

2008-01-16 Thread s. isaac dealey
> > > ACK i was missing my # signs!!!  new wife must have stolen them!
> >
> > I hear that's a common problem with newlyweds. :)
> 
> hmmm... you think she only married him for his # signs? :)

Yeah, gotta be careful. She might be a # digger. :) 

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Re: CRUD Creation

2008-01-16 Thread s. isaac dealey
> http://www.sqlteam.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6136&whichpage=1

Heh... read the article... Had never heard anyone complain before about
arbitrary primary keys... and honestly, it strikes me as being rather
odd... I've only ever heard people complain about meaningful keys
actually. But it just seems really odd to complain that "hey, it's a
challenge to figure out who a person's boss is by looking at the primary
key in this table directly" when I always thought it was sort of
contrary to the notion of software for people to be looking at those
primary keys. People don't want to see the key anyway, they want to see
human values -- so why would it be a problem that something they don't
want or need to see is confusing to look at? 


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Re: CRUD Creation

2008-01-16 Thread Charlie Griefer
On Jan 16, 2008 6:52 PM, s. isaac dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ACK i was missing my # signs!!!  new wife must have stolen them!
>
> I hear that's a common problem with newlyweds. :)

hmmm... you think she only married him for his # signs? :)

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Re: CRUD Creation

2008-01-16 Thread s. isaac dealey
> ACK i was missing my # signs!!!  new wife must have stolen them!

I hear that's a common problem with newlyweds. :) 

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Re: Training a new programmer

2008-01-16 Thread Cutter (CFRelated)
We sent a guy (former PHP) to one of Charlie Arehart's bootcamp courses. 
He's not looking back;)

Steve "Cutter" Blades
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_
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Ian Rutherford wrote:
> I have an employee who has tinkered around with CF and Javascript and is 
> familiar with HTML basics. 
> 
> He has expressed interest in learning more and getting more involved in the 
> actual programming for the company.
> 
> Any suggestions on how best to go about training him? I've got books galore 
> but I'm not sure how best to introduce him to frameworks, OOP and CF as a 
> cohesive whole.
> 
> Thanks,
> Ian 
> 
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Re: CRUD Creation

2008-01-16 Thread Dominic Watson
Ok, so I did some googling because I wanted to know WHY it was 'best
practice' to add a surrogate key to the table and why to rail against the
idea of using 'natural keys' as primary keys.

I stumbled across perhaps the longest thread I have ever read completely, it
starts in November 2001 and the last post was january 2007. I was tempted to
post but thought better of it :p It references an article advocating the use
of natural primary keys and produced the most entertaining rant and
informative series of posts I have read in a long time. The rant starts at
the end of page 2 and is by 'quazibubble' who later becomes QB after he gets
banned. I think anyone considering using natural keys should read his
rants, they are both entertainingly rude and contain the gems of wisdom that
the likes of me need:

http://www.sqlteam.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6136&whichpage=1

I think reading the article will make your mind up either way about the
wisdom of not using 'auto increments' / surrogate pks (I realise they are
not the same thing).

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Re: Barcode Question

2008-01-16 Thread Ryan J. Heldt
Mario-

We're working on a project here that creates barcodes embedded in a PDF 
created with cfdocument. However, you could use cfimage in a similar 
way. We ended up purchasing a collection of fonts from MyFonts.com 
(http://www.myfonts.com/info/fontware-code39) but ID Automation has a 
free Code 39 Barcode Font allows the ability to print letters, numbers 
and some symbols (http://www.idautomation.com/fonts/free). Hope this helps.

Thanks!
Ryan

Ciliotta, Mario wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I was wondering if anyone could assist me with an issue.  I am currently
> using the custom tag barcode39.cfm to produce 3 of 9 barcodes from a CF
> page.  I am have a few issues with the fact that the tag and/or the 3 of
> 9 barcode specification does not support certain characters like the " ,
> "  and the "@". Does anyone know if there is an update to this tag or is
> there possibly a CFC or something else that I could use to produce the
> barcode.  I do not have to use 3 of 9, I can use a different format.  
>
> I am using BlueDragon 6.2 on Weblogic.
>
> Thanks
> Mario
>
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Re: CF8 Image function - get size of text written

2008-01-16 Thread C S
You may want to try using TextLayout instead of FontMetrics getStringBounds() 
for a more accurate measurement. The Font API mentions 

"The logical bounds does not always enclose all the text. For example, in some 
languages and in some fonts, accent marks can be positioned above the ascent or 
below the descent. To obtain a visual bounding box, which encloses all the 
text, use the getBounds method of TextLayout." 

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Re: Barcode Question

2008-01-16 Thread James Holmes
I've used barbecue to generate barcodes in the past:

http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/index.cfm/2006/8/24/Generating-Barcodes-with-Barbecue-and-Coldfusion


On Jan 17, 2008 5:34 AM, Ciliotta, Mario
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I was wondering if anyone could assist me with an issue.  I am currently
> using the custom tag barcode39.cfm to produce 3 of 9 barcodes from a CF
> page.  I am have a few issues with the fact that the tag and/or the 3 of
> 9 barcode specification does not support certain characters like the " ,
> "  and the "@". Does anyone know if there is an update to this tag or is
> there possibly a CFC or something else that I could use to produce the
> barcode.  I do not have to use 3 of 9, I can use a different format.
>
> I am using BlueDragon 6.2 on Weblogic.
>
> Thanks
> Mario
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Re: Training a new programmer

2008-01-16 Thread Kay Smoljak
> He has expressed interest in learning more and getting more involved in the 
> actual programming for the company.
> Any suggestions on how best to go about training him? I've got books galore 
> but I'm not sure how best to introduce him to frameworks, OOP and CF as a 
> cohesive whole.

I've helped a few HTML/PHP people get up to speed with CF (in fact I'm
doing it now) and I've found that often people learn best by example,
but preferably real world code.

So to start with I give them something like a mostly-finished Fusebox
circuit for a CRUD app - say, maintaining one type of record - and get
them to produce the same for a different type of record. Or I'll write
the CFC for grabbing records, and give them an output page with just a
CFDUMP so they can see visually see how the data is structured and lay
it out (good for HTML peeps). CFDUMP always impresses people used to
PHP or ASP too :)

Once they've actually generated something that's actually useful - and
not a hello world page - they're usually encouraged to expand on what
they've done.

Of course, I'm talking about people that I'm actively working with.

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Re: cfqueryparam, cached execution plans, and changing table structure

2008-01-16 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Mark Kruger wrote:
> I tried the DBCC FREEPROCCACHE routine after making a schema change - but it
> does not prevent the 'invalid data type" error that sometimes occurs. Any
> other useful routines you can think of?

No, but I just realized where there is an error in my logic. I was 
assuming that once you flush the execution plan cache it would solve the 
problem. But that is only true if automatic recompilation is supported.

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Re: The CRUD thread reminds me of something I 'played' around a few years ago...

2008-01-16 Thread Don L
ok, just brought the dead horse back alive now :) 
some may say user friendly enough, so, it's not for the general public...
thanks.
> oops, sorry, accesssing my old version cf admin on the same box is a 
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RE: cfqueryparam, cached execution plans, and changing table structure

2008-01-16 Thread Mark Kruger
Jochem,

I tried the DBCC FREEPROCCACHE routine after making a schema change - but it
does not prevent the 'invalid data type" error that sometimes occurs. Any
other useful routines you can think of?

-mark
 

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:49 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfqueryparam, cached execution plans, and changing table
structure

Jochem,

So... If I ran the DBCC operation on the SQL server to flush the execution
plan cache immediatley after a shema change - I would not have to fiddle
with the queries or restarts or other techniques to draw it over to CF? If
so - that's a great tip.

-Mark

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Subject: Re: cfqueryparam, cached execution plans, and changing table
structure

Ben Mueller wrote:
> It sounds like the only time this is a problem is under the following
circumstance:  alterations to an existing DB table where a related execution
plan is stored in memory.

Correct.


> I'm mostly annoyed that this doesn't "just work".  Maybe that's
unrealistic of me, but I don't think it's unreasonable of me.

It is a MS SQL Server issue. Oracle, PostgreSQL etc. do not have this
problem, they flush their cache on schema changes. So I agree that it is not
unrealistic to expect that it would be handled automatically.

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Re: CRUD Creation

2008-01-16 Thread Dominic Watson
>
> No, it's not sarcasm. Joe Celko is very well known and respected in that
> community.


Yeh, I see! Just googled "primary keys" "business logic" (cos I'm
interested) and his name came up straight away:

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000817.html

Some varying and strong opinions of him; I quote my favourite: 'he's really
a troll who doesn't even use ANSI 92/99-standard join syntax'

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RE: Barcode Question

2008-01-16 Thread Mark Kruger
I'm not sure if this will work for you but I'll mention it. We recently did
a project that handled faxes with 2D bar codes. We used a java library from
Java4Less to create a 2D "data  matrix" code on a fax cover sheet. The idea
was that user would fax documents into our fax number (on an Asteisk
server). They would be  stored on the drive as PDFs.  Using CF8 and the
CFPDF tag we created thumbs of the cover page from the fax and then
extracted the bar code - passing it to the java4Less library for decoding. 

The result worked really well. Ryan Stille (the CF Webtools guru who came up
with the solution) posted a CFC to use in conjunction with the library.

Here's my post on the topic:

http://www.coldfusionmuse.com/index.cfm/2007/12/12/fax.2D.barcode.Coldfusion
..8

And here is ryans post:

http://www.stillnetstudios.com/2007/12/15/2d-barcodes-coldfusion/

 That includes a link to the riaforge project.

-Mark

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To: CF-Talk
Subject: Barcode Question

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone could assist me with an issue.  I am currently
using the custom tag barcode39.cfm to produce 3 of 9 barcodes from a CF
page.  I am have a few issues with the fact that the tag and/or the 3 of
9 barcode specification does not support certain characters like the " , "
and the "@". Does anyone know if there is an update to this tag or is there
possibly a CFC or something else that I could use to produce the barcode.  I
do not have to use 3 of 9, I can use a different format.  

I am using BlueDragon 6.2 on Weblogic.

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Re: The CRUD thread reminds me of something I 'played' around a few years ago...

2008-01-16 Thread Don L
oops, sorry, accesssing my old version cf admin on the same box is a pain in 
??? but hang on...

>You tried to access the Developer Edition from a disallowed IP ...
>oops got a live server you can toss it on?
>
>On Jan 16, 2008 3:19 PM, D
>
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RE: CRUD Creation

2008-01-16 Thread Dave Watts
> > Joe Ceiko holds that theory and considering he's so 
> > influential in the relational db world...
> 
> I assume that's sarcasm; not being a mover in the relational 
> db world I wouldn't know :P

No, it's not sarcasm. Joe Celko is very well known and respected in that
community.

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Re: CRUD Creation

2008-01-16 Thread Dominic Watson
>
> Joe Ceiko holds that theory and considering he's so influential in the
> relational db world...


I assume that's sarcasm; not being a mover in the relational db world I
wouldn't know :P

I'd opt for the new primary key and unique constraint on the
columns everytime. Zero headache. The unique constraint is absolutely
imprtant of course, let the db tell you when your code sucks ;)

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Re: cfqueryparam, cached execution plans, and changing table structure

2008-01-16 Thread Sonny Savage
The situations I've seen it most is when doing a SELECT * FROM table, and
not getting a newly added column in the query result.  I've had issues when
changing the column order as well.

On Jan 16, 2008 3:01 PM, Ben Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Now that I would *almost* understand and forgive.  But we seem to have
> gotten the error when we added a column that was *not* referenced in the
> query.  So, all we did was add a column--we didn't alter the query at all.
>  Of course, I can't recreate on my laptop (running CF8 and SQL2005 locally),
> but I'll try to get it to happen again.
>
> Thanks again,
> Ben
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Re: The CRUD thread reminds me of something I 'played' around a few years ago...

2008-01-16 Thread Richard Dillman
You tried to access the Developer Edition from a disallowed IP ...
oops got a live server you can toss it on?

On Jan 16, 2008 3:19 PM, Don L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://24.254.1.94:8000/snap823/DataMan.cfm
> (Have not re-test it thoroughly)
> Who could use something like that?
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Training a new programmer

2008-01-16 Thread Bruce Sorge
I agree. When one of my employers decided to go from CF to .NET, I was 
given 90 days to get up to speed to beginner/intermediate level. So they 
told me to pick some light-weight apps that I did in CF then convert 
them to .NET. It worked. In about four months I was doing some high 
level .NET stuff.

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> were, throw him in the shallow end.  Give him all the help he asks for. 
>   Do a code review.  Pick something more important, wash, rinse, repeat.
>
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Re: Training a new programmer

2008-01-16 Thread Ben Doom
I'd pick something non-time-critical and non-mission-critical and, as it 
were, throw him in the shallow end.  Give him all the help he asks for. 
  Do a code review.  Pick something more important, wash, rinse, repeat.

--Ben Doom

Ian Rutherford wrote:
> I have an employee who has tinkered around with CF and Javascript and is 
> familiar with HTML basics. 
> 
> He has expressed interest in learning more and getting more involved in the 
> actual programming for the company.
> 
> Any suggestions on how best to go about training him? I've got books galore 
> but I'm not sure how best to introduce him to frameworks, OOP and CF as a 
> cohesive whole.
> 
> Thanks,
> Ian 
> 
> 

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Re: CF8 Image function - get size of text written

2008-01-16 Thread Raymond Camden
Interesting stuff. I've been wanting to do something like this for a
while now, but a bit different. Given the string X, and an image
Canvas, put X so that is centered horiz and vert. If you had the W/H
of a set of text, it would be trivial.

On Jan 16, 2008 10:46 AM, Ben Nadel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John,
>
> I did something that was inspired by Barney Boisvert. An image function
> that draws text areas rather than just a line of text:
>
> http://www.bennadel.com/blog/977-ColdFusion-8-ImageDrawTextArea-Inspired
> -By-Barney-Boisvert-.htm
>
> In order to do this, I had to figure out the dimensions of the text
> itself. Take a look at the innards.
>
>

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Barcode Question

2008-01-16 Thread Ciliotta, Mario
Hi,

I was wondering if anyone could assist me with an issue.  I am currently
using the custom tag barcode39.cfm to produce 3 of 9 barcodes from a CF
page.  I am have a few issues with the fact that the tag and/or the 3 of
9 barcode specification does not support certain characters like the " ,
"  and the "@". Does anyone know if there is an update to this tag or is
there possibly a CFC or something else that I could use to produce the
barcode.  I do not have to use 3 of 9, I can use a different format.  

I am using BlueDragon 6.2 on Weblogic.

Thanks
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The CRUD thread reminds me of something I 'played' around a few years ago...

2008-01-16 Thread Don L
http://24.254.1.94:8000/snap823/DataMan.cfm
(Have not re-test it thoroughly)
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Training a new programmer

2008-01-16 Thread Ian Rutherford
I have an employee who has tinkered around with CF and Javascript and is 
familiar with HTML basics. 

He has expressed interest in learning more and getting more involved in the 
actual programming for the company.

Any suggestions on how best to go about training him? I've got books galore but 
I'm not sure how best to introduce him to frameworks, OOP and CF as a cohesive 
whole.

Thanks,
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Re: CRUD Creation

2008-01-16 Thread Don L
On "For some reason a former employer drilled it
into the team that Auto incrementing PK's were dead weight if you could
composite a key with existing data"
Joe Ceiko holds that theory and considering he's so influential in the 
relational db world... 

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Re: cfqueryparam, cached execution plans, and changing table structure

2008-01-16 Thread Ben Mueller
Now that I would *almost* understand and forgive.  But we seem to have gotten 
the error when we added a column that was *not* referenced in the query.  So, 
all we did was add a column--we didn't alter the query at all.  Of course, I 
can't recreate on my laptop (running CF8 and SQL2005 locally), but I'll try to 
get it to happen again.

Thanks again,
Ben



> Ben Mueller wrote:
> > 
> > SELECT firstname
> >   FROM user
> >  WHERE email =  email#>
> > 
> > 
> > MS SQL Server caches the execution plan.  Then, I add a "lastname" 
> column to the user table.  I don't change the query at all.  I re-hit 
> the query while the execution plan is cached.  It breaks?
> 
> Probably not if you add a column, only if you delete one and keep 
> referencing it:
> 
   
> CREATE TABLE user (A, B, C)
> 
> 
> 
   
> 
> 
> 
> 
   
> ALTER TABLE user DROP COLUMN C
> 
> 
> 
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Re: CRUD Creation

2008-01-16 Thread Richard Dillman
ACK i was missing my # signs!!!  new wife must have stolen them!


IF NOT EXISTS (SELECT
ups_id_pk,ups_provider_fk,ups_client_fk,ups_service_fk
 FROM user_provider_services
WHERE ups_provider_fk = 
  AND ups_client_fk = 
  AND ups_service_fk = )
INSERT INTO user_provider_services
   (ups_provider_fk,ups_client_fk,ups_service_fk)
 VALUES (
,
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Re: cfqueryparam, cached execution plans, and changing table structure

2008-01-16 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Ben Mueller wrote:
> 
> SELECT firstname
>   FROM user
>  WHERE email = 
> 
> 
> MS SQL Server caches the execution plan.  Then, I add a "lastname" column to 
> the user table.  I don't change the query at all.  I re-hit the query while 
> the execution plan is cached.  It breaks?

Probably not if you add a column, only if you delete one and keep 
referencing it:

   CREATE TABLE user (A, B, C)



   



   ALTER TABLE user DROP COLUMN C



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Re: CRUD Creation

2008-01-16 Thread Richard Dillman
Sorry stepped away from the computer a couple days to get married WOOT!

now back to work 

What I've come up with is:
 
IF NOT EXISTS (SELECT
ups_id_pk,ups_provider_fk,ups_client_fk,ups_service_fk
 FROM user_provider_services
WHERE ups_provider_fk = 
  AND ups_client_fk = 
  AND ups_service_fk = )
INSERT INTO user_provider_services
   (ups_provider_fk,ups_client_fk,ups_service_fk)
 VALUES (
,
,)



Thanks for the input guys.  For some reason a former employer drilled it
into the team that Auto incrementing PK's were dead weight if you could
composite a key with existing data, and I'm finding old habits die hard.

OK back to the honeymooning!


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> > > An auto Incrementing PK just makes it easier to insert a
> > > duplicate.
> >
> > Not if the column is marked as a PK.
>
> I think that Richard means, it's easier to insert duplicate data values
> with
> a surrogate key. This is certainly true, unless you place constraints on
> the
> natural key as well.
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RE: cfqueryparam, cached execution plans, and changing table structure

2008-01-16 Thread Mark Kruger
Jochem,

So... If I ran the DBCC operation on the SQL server to flush the execution
plan cache immediatley after a shema change - I would not have to fiddle
with the queries or restarts or other techniques to draw it over to CF? If
so - that's a great tip.

-Mark

-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:33 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: cfqueryparam, cached execution plans, and changing table
structure

Ben Mueller wrote:
> It sounds like the only time this is a problem is under the following
circumstance:  alterations to an existing DB table where a related execution
plan is stored in memory.

Correct.


> I'm mostly annoyed that this doesn't "just work".  Maybe that's
unrealistic of me, but I don't think it's unreasonable of me.

It is a MS SQL Server issue. Oracle, PostgreSQL etc. do not have this
problem, they flush their cache on schema changes. So I agree that it is not
unrealistic to expect that it would be handled automatically.

Jochem



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Re: Problems with CFDOCUMENT and load balancing

2008-01-16 Thread Matthew Williams
> Sticky sessions?

Yes.  J2EE sessions are enabled.  It's been working well for the past year or 
so.


> How about CSS and Javascript? Anyplace where we can see the HTML?

There's one block of inline CSS, and no javascript.  It seems to mostly be the 
images tanking this.  I'm looking to get permission to include the HTML.  

Bloody hell...  Well, consider this solved.  The images directory (which exists 
in the staging area) does not exist in production.  And it's timing out looking 
for them.  Moved in the images, and problem solved.

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Re: cfqueryparam, cached execution plans, and changing table structure

2008-01-16 Thread Ben Mueller
God, so annoying.

So, let me see if I really have this straight.  Let's pretend I have a table 
called "user" that has two columns: firstname and email.  I write a query like 
this (shortened syntax):


SELECT firstname
  FROM user
 WHERE email = 


MS SQL Server caches the execution plan.  Then, I add a "lastname" column to 
the user table.  I don't change the query at all.  I re-hit the query while the 
execution plan is cached.  It breaks?

Thanks again.



> > It sounds like the only time this is a problem is under the 
> following circumstance:  alterations to an existing DB table where a 
> related execution plan is stored in memory.
> 
> Correct.
> 
> 
> > I'm mostly annoyed that this doesn't "just work".  Maybe that's 
> unrealistic of me, but I don't think it's unreasonable of me.
> 
> It is a MS SQL Server issue. Oracle, PostgreSQL etc. do not have this 
> 
> problem, they flush their cache on schema changes. So I agree that it 
> is 
> not unrealistic to expect that it would be handled automatically.
> 
Jochem 

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Re: cfqueryparam, cached execution plans, and changing table structure

2008-01-16 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Ben Mueller wrote:
> It sounds like the only time this is a problem is under the following 
> circumstance:  alterations to an existing DB table where a related execution 
> plan is stored in memory.

Correct.


> I'm mostly annoyed that this doesn't "just work".  Maybe that's unrealistic 
> of me, but I don't think it's unreasonable of me.

It is a MS SQL Server issue. Oracle, PostgreSQL etc. do not have this 
problem, they flush their cache on schema changes. So I agree that it is 
not unrealistic to expect that it would be handled automatically.

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Re: cfqueryparam, cached execution plans, and changing table structure

2008-01-16 Thread Ben Mueller
> > Thanks, Jochem, for the reply.  I glanced at that call just briefly; 
> does it clear *all* stored execution plans, or just a specified one?  
> It seems like the only way it would be useful in this context is if it 
> cleared them all, since we have no way of knowing which plans are 
> cached.
> 
> I don't know, you might evenneed one of the other DBCC FREE. 
> commands. Try it :)


Yeah, I'll try it all right.  Just was hoping you might know off the top of 
your head.



> > A larger question is this:  isn't this a huge headache for 
> everybody?  We update our site a lot--sometimes several times a day
> 
> If by update you mean a schema change I think you are the exception 
> rather then the rule.


Well, it's a mix.  Sometimes, we just make CF code changes, but we do make 
changes to our database with some regularity.  It sounds like the only time 
this is a problem is under the following circumstance:  alterations to an 
existing DB table where a related execution plan is stored in memory.  If we 
create a new table, or if (by luck) no referencing execution plan isn't stored 
in memory, then we're okay.  

I'd say we make changes like that as often as a few times a week?  There might 
be a week or so that goes by where we don't make a change like that, and then a 
week will come along where we make a host of such changes.

Is this really the exception rather than the rule?  I would think that most 
sites are under constant evolution, database included.

I suppose I'm trying to get a sense of how the community at large deals with 
these issues.  Do people take databases offline when making structural changes, 
or make a habit of cycling the SQL service (which would probably clear the 
cache, but I'm not sure), or do people routinely call the SQL procedure you 
highlighted above?

I'm mostly annoyed that this doesn't "just work".  Maybe that's unrealistic of 
me, but I don't think it's unreasonable of me.

Thanks again,
Ben



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Re: cfqueryparam, cached execution plans, and changing table structure

2008-01-16 Thread Adam Haskell
Even when we have updated a schema in the past the execution plan is trashed
and a new one is prepared and we do not experience any problems. Why would a
schema change multiple times in a day, there is agile and there is
ridiculous that seems to be treading on ridiculous. I've never experienced
an issue with local development either which I could see the schema going
through rapid changes during spikes.


Adam Haskell

On Jan 16, 2008 1:21 PM, Ben Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thanks, Jochem, for the reply.  I glanced at that call just briefly; does
> it clear *all* stored execution plans, or just a specified one?  It seems
> like the only way it would be useful in this context is if it cleared them
> all, since we have no way of knowing which plans are cached.
>
> A larger question is this:  isn't this a huge headache for everybody?  We
> update our site a lot--sometimes several times a day--and if having 
> around means we need to add an extra step to our process of getting stuff
> out to our production servers, that just seems like a big pain.  Maybe I'm
> asking for too much here, but I suppose I would expect that if a cached
> execution plan bombed in SQL Server, it would automatically attempt to
> re-compile, under the assumption that the cached plan is out of date.
>
> Thanks again,
> Ben
>
>
> > The execution plan is cached in the database so there is no way CF
> > could
> > possible know it is cached, let alone the cache needs to be flushed.
> >
> >
> > > and it seems the only solutions are to cycle the CF service or
> > change any query (in some minor way) to force CF to create a new
> > execution plan.
> >
> > What you need is to flush the cache in the database server. Look into
> >
> > DBCC FREEPROCCACHE and its cousins.
>
>
> 

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Re: cfqueryparam, cached execution plans, and changing table structure

2008-01-16 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Ben Mueller wrote:
> Thanks, Jochem, for the reply.  I glanced at that call just briefly; does it 
> clear *all* stored execution plans, or just a specified one?  It seems like 
> the only way it would be useful in this context is if it cleared them all, 
> since we have no way of knowing which plans are cached.

I don't know, you might evenneed one of the other DBCC FREE. 
commands. Try it :)


> A larger question is this:  isn't this a huge headache for everybody?  We 
> update our site a lot--sometimes several times a day

If by update you mean a schema change I think you are the exception 
rather then the rule.

Jochem

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Re: cfqueryparam, cached execution plans, and changing table structure

2008-01-16 Thread Ben Mueller
Thanks, Jochem, for the reply.  I glanced at that call just briefly; does it 
clear *all* stored execution plans, or just a specified one?  It seems like the 
only way it would be useful in this context is if it cleared them all, since we 
have no way of knowing which plans are cached.

A larger question is this:  isn't this a huge headache for everybody?  We 
update our site a lot--sometimes several times a day--and if having  
around means we need to add an extra step to our process of getting stuff out 
to our production servers, that just seems like a big pain.  Maybe I'm asking 
for too much here, but I suppose I would expect that if a cached execution plan 
bombed in SQL Server, it would automatically attempt to re-compile, under the 
assumption that the cached plan is out of date.

Thanks again,
Ben


> The execution plan is cached in the database so there is no way CF 
> could 
> possible know it is cached, let alone the cache needs to be flushed.
> 
> 
> > and it seems the only solutions are to cycle the CF service or 
> change any query (in some minor way) to force CF to create a new 
> execution plan.
> 
> What you need is to flush the cache in the database server. Look into 
> 
> DBCC FREEPROCCACHE and its cousins.


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Re: Problems with CFDOCUMENT and load balancing

2008-01-16 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Matthew Williams wrote:
> The situation stands as such.  I have an application hosted in my environment 
> that uses the cfdocument tag.  Our servers are clustered at the JRun level.

Sticky sessions?


> We also have a hardware load balancer in front of the servers.  When calling 
> the page containing the cfdocument through the load balanced URL, the process 
> fails 99% of the time.  Looking at the stack trace in FusionReactor, it looks 
> like it times out at about 60 seconds and gives up (we time out requests in 
> the admin at the 60 second mark).  However, if you go directly to the machine 
> (bypassing the load balancer), the page request returns correctly.  Has 
> anyone else run into this?

Yes. If the document has assets it will try to download them using the 
servername and path from the HTTP headers. If the server can not resolve 
them correctly, for instance because the DNS for the site points to an 
IP address on the loadbalancer, it will timeout.


> I've removed all calls to image tags from within the page, and it's still 
> failing.

How about CSS and Javascript? Anyplace where we can see the HTML?

Jochem

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Problems with CFDOCUMENT and load balancing

2008-01-16 Thread Matthew Williams
The situation stands as such.  I have an application hosted in my environment 
that uses the cfdocument tag.  Our servers are clustered at the JRun level.  We 
also have a hardware load balancer in front of the servers.  When calling the 
page containing the cfdocument through the load balanced URL, the process fails 
99% of the time.  Looking at the stack trace in FusionReactor, it looks like it 
times out at about 60 seconds and gives up (we time out requests in the admin 
at the 60 second mark).  However, if you go directly to the machine (bypassing 
the load balancer), the page request returns correctly.  Has anyone else run 
into this?

I've removed all calls to image tags from within the page, and it's still 
failing.  I'm starting to not like CFDOCUMENT.

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Re: cfqueryparam, cached execution plans, and changing table structure

2008-01-16 Thread Sonny Savage
Hi Ben,

In the ColdFusion administration there is an option for caching or keeping
the connection open... I can't remember what it's called.  If you disable
this option and then re-run the query you can re-enable the option.  I've
seen other query errors caused by ColdFusion caching the data structures as
well.

-- 
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Senior Software Engineer
Creditdiscovery, LLC


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Problem with lyla captcha

2008-01-16 Thread Prasath Govindarajulu
Getting the following error, 
Element CAPTCHA is undefined in a Java object of type class [Ljava.lang.String; 
referenced as  
 
  
The error occurred in C:\Program Files\Apache 
Group\Apache\htdocs\art\students\undergraduate\accomplish\add.cfm: line 499
 

499 :   

 Could anybody help me with this

thanks
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RE: cfqueryparam, cached execution plans, and changing table structure

2008-01-16 Thread Adrian Lynch
Have a look at this:



















But, I think the last I left it, it wasn't working. It was timing out if I
remember rightly. Also, you might not need to pass in that much data, but
instead glean it from the datasource.

Just an idea.

Adrian
http://www.adrianlynch.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Lynch
Sent: 16 January 2008 16:33
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfqueryparam, cached execution plans, and changing table
structure


You should be able to do it with code. Using the Admin API you can switch a
flag (can't remember which one) off and on again for a given datasource.
This should clear the cached plan.

I had a function to do it but it's at home. If you wait about 5 hours! :OD

I also didn't get around to testing it so I was never 100% sure it worked.

Adrian

-Original Message-
From: Ben Mueller
Sent: 16 January 2008 16:17
To: CF-Talk
Subject: cfqueryparam, cached execution plans, and changing table
structure


We hit a problem with morning relating to cfqueryparam.  A query using
cfqueryparam referenced a table whose structure had been changed (we added a
column).  It appears the execution plan had been cached, and either CF7 or
SQL Server 2000 wasn't smart enough to figure out that the table had
changed, and so the query bombed.  I found an old post on it here:

http://www.coldfusionjedi.com/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=7D417738-DF64-B270-
3056B422E2F6FCAB

..and it seems the only solutions are to cycle the CF service or change
any query (in some minor way) to force CF to create a new execution plan.
Frankly, both of those solutions blow.  We're constantly updating our site,
and if we have to cycle the CF service on our production servers every time
we make a database change, we'll simply be forced to abandon cfqueryparam
entirely.

Somebody please tell me there's some other solution here.

Thanks in advance,
Ben


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Re: cfqueryparam, cached execution plans, and changing table structure

2008-01-16 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Ben Mueller wrote:
> We hit a problem with morning relating to cfqueryparam.  A query using 
> cfqueryparam referenced a table whose structure had been changed (we added a 
> column).  It appears the execution plan had been cached, and either CF7 or 
> SQL Server 2000 wasn't smart enough to figure out that the table had changed, 
> and so the query bombed.

The execution plan is cached in the database so there is no way CF could 
possible know it is cached, let alone the cache needs to be flushed.


> and it seems the only solutions are to cycle the CF service or change any 
> query (in some minor way) to force CF to create a new execution plan.

What you need is to flush the cache in the database server. Look into 
DBCC FREEPROCCACHE and its cousins.

Jochem

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RE: CF8 Image function - get size of text written

2008-01-16 Thread Ben Nadel
John,

I did something that was inspired by Barney Boisvert. An image function
that draws text areas rather than just a line of text:

http://www.bennadel.com/blog/977-ColdFusion-8-ImageDrawTextArea-Inspired
-By-Barney-Boisvert-.htm 

In order to do this, I had to figure out the dimensions of the text
itself. Take a look at the innards.


..
Ben Nadel
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX7 Developer
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-Original Message-
From: John Blayter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 3:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF8 Image function - get size of text written

Does anyone know a way for getting the size of the text written to an
image? For example. Lets say that I have an image that is 50 pixels high
and 400 pixels wide and I write some text on the image starting at the
first pixel and the text only takes a width of 212 pixels. How can I
tell that the text only took up 212 pixels?

I am looking for something like the getdimensions() method from
cfx_imageflare
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Re: cfqueryparam, cached execution plans, and changing table structure

2008-01-16 Thread Ben Mueller
Tom,

Thanks for the reply, but I don't think that would solve the problem.  The 
issue is that the execution plan itself is cached, and so it doesn't know about 
the underlying database changes.  If I run a different query, it won't affect 
this execution plan.

And even if it did, that's still not a solution I would run with.  That would 
mean that for every database change I make, I would have to be the first one to 
hit the associated cached query.  Our site has enough traffic that it's very 
likely a user would hit one of these queries before me, and would therefore see 
an error.

Ben

> If all you need to is run a query against the new table, why not just 
> do that 
> from a plain old CFML page ?
> 
> -- 
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fckeditor

2008-01-16 Thread Eric Roberts
Has anyone encountered an issue with fckeditor where it inserts a style
property into the divs (style="margin 0pt 0pt 0pt 0pt") that causes the ext
within the div to form a tight  column on the left instead of the text
populating the entire td? 

 

I didn't see anything specifically about his on their forums (and I did
leave a message there).  This happens when it is used by any browser.

 

This is on CF7 win 2k with the latest version of fckeditor.

 

Eric

 

 



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RE: cfqueryparam, cached execution plans, and changing table structure

2008-01-16 Thread Adrian Lynch
You should be able to do it with code. Using the Admin API you can switch a
flag (can't remember which one) off and on again for a given datasource.
This should clear the cached plan.

I had a function to do it but it's at home. If you wait about 5 hours! :OD

I also didn't get around to testing it so I was never 100% sure it worked.

Adrian

-Original Message-
From: Ben Mueller
Sent: 16 January 2008 16:17
To: CF-Talk
Subject: cfqueryparam, cached execution plans, and changing table
structure


We hit a problem with morning relating to cfqueryparam.  A query using
cfqueryparam referenced a table whose structure had been changed (we added a
column).  It appears the execution plan had been cached, and either CF7 or
SQL Server 2000 wasn't smart enough to figure out that the table had
changed, and so the query bombed.  I found an old post on it here:

http://www.coldfusionjedi.com/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=7D417738-DF64-B270-
3056B422E2F6FCAB

.and it seems the only solutions are to cycle the CF service or change
any query (in some minor way) to force CF to create a new execution plan.
Frankly, both of those solutions blow.  We're constantly updating our site,
and if we have to cycle the CF service on our production servers every time
we make a database change, we'll simply be forced to abandon cfqueryparam
entirely.

Somebody please tell me there's some other solution here.

Thanks in advance,
Ben


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Re: cfqueryparam, cached execution plans, and changing table structure

2008-01-16 Thread Todd
And, in addition to what Tom is saying, I don't think you have to do this
all the time.  Just one time?  That's what I'm gathering from all the
comments on Ray's page.

On Jan 16, 2008 11:30 AM, Tom Chiverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> On Wednesday 16 Jan 2008, Ben Mueller wrote:
> > and if we have to cycle the CF service on our production servers every
> time
> > we make a database change, we'll simply be forced to abandon
> cfqueryparam
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>
> If all you need to is run a query against the new table, why not just do
> that
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Re: cfqueryparam, cached execution plans, and changing table structure

2008-01-16 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Wednesday 16 Jan 2008, Ben Mueller wrote:
> and if we have to cycle the CF service on our production servers every time
> we make a database change, we'll simply be forced to abandon cfqueryparam
> entirely.

If all you need to is run a query against the new table, why not just do that 
from a plain old CFML page ?

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cfqueryparam, cached execution plans, and changing table structure

2008-01-16 Thread Ben Mueller
We hit a problem with morning relating to cfqueryparam.  A query using 
cfqueryparam referenced a table whose structure had been changed (we added a 
column).  It appears the execution plan had been cached, and either CF7 or SQL 
Server 2000 wasn't smart enough to figure out that the table had changed, and 
so the query bombed.  I found an old post on it here:

http://www.coldfusionjedi.com/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=7D417738-DF64-B270-3056B422E2F6FCAB

and it seems the only solutions are to cycle the CF service or change any 
query (in some minor way) to force CF to create a new execution plan.  Frankly, 
both of those solutions blow.  We're constantly updating our site, and if we 
have to cycle the CF service on our production servers every time we make a 
database change, we'll simply be forced to abandon cfqueryparam entirely.  

Somebody please tell me there's some other solution here.  

Thanks in advance,
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Re: Ajax CFgrid in cf8 help

2008-01-16 Thread Cutter (CFRelated)
OK, you have your grid object, 'mygrid', now you can do a bit more 
before your .reconfigure(). Create your paging Toolbar. First you need 
to get your grid footer:

var gridFoot = mygrid.getView().getFooterPanel(true);

After this you create a new PagingToolbar:

var paging = new Ext.PagingToolbar(gridFoot,ds,{
pageSize:25, //number of records displayed in grid
displayInfo:true,
displayMsg:'Displaying records {0} - {1} of {2}',
emptyMsg:"No records to display"
});

Somewhere after this is your mygrid.reconfigure(ds,cm), which will 
reload the grid with the changes.

Steve "Cutter" Blades
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Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
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Paul Stewart wrote:
> Hi, I have been using the CFgrid tag in CF8 (format HTML,  bound to a 
> cfc), and i have got it do almost all that i need it do (see below). 
> Except that i don't know how to get access to the TOTALROWCOUNT figure 
> that i can see in the debugger returned from the CFC , and also be able 
> to display that figure either on the bottom of the grid itself (using 
> ext.toolbar???), or even above it on the page using another ajax method??.
> 
> I need to do this show the user amount of records returned from his/her 
> search. i.e 'your search returned x number of records.' From reading Ray 
> Camden's blog I know i have to use the underlying Ext library that the 
> cfgrid tag is based on, and i have used his solution to format some 
> columns in the grid (nice one Ray). But i am not really getting anywhere 
> (hopelessly bamboozled) with the records returned figure.
> 
> If any kind person would like to me help me i would be indebted to them.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> myf = function(data,cellmd,record,row,col,store) {
>   return "£ " + data;
>   
> }
> formatgrid = function() {
>mygrid = ColdFusion.Grid.getGridObject('ad');
>   
>cm = mygrid.getColumnModel();
>cm.setRenderer(3,myf);
>cm.setRenderer(5,myf);
>   
>mygrid.reconfigure(mygrid.getDataSource(),cm);
>   }
>
>
> 
> 
>  bind="cfc:search.doFranchiseSearch({cfgridpage},{cfgridpagesize},{cfgridsortcolumn},{cfgridsortdirection},{form2:regionId},{form2:countyId},{form2:franchiseTypeDescription},{form2:cat2},{form2:IndustrySectorName},{form2:cat})"
>  
> format="html">
> 
>  hrefkey="Id" display=true header="Franchise" />
> 
>  header="MTI - £" />
> 
> 
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CF7 and Axis 1.4

2008-01-16 Thread Stewart Turnbull
Has anybody upgraded CF7 to Axis 1.3 or even version 1.4?

Any pointers greatly received.

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Re: IP Address to Country API

2008-01-16 Thread Jim Wright
On 1/15/08, Coldfusion Monkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just wondering if you guys are aware of any negatives in using this service 
> like updates to db, uptime,speed etc.

I've had some issues with coverage and accuracy with hostip...when I
was first testing it, I had a friend in New Bern, NC test the app.  It
didn't know where they were.  But since it is a community populated
database, this person just input their information, and the next query
returned the correct location.  Of course, that also points out that
there isn't much checking on the validity of the data that is input.
Right now it puts my IP as Charlotte, NC, while I am 150+ miles away
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Ajax CFgrid in cf8 help

2008-01-16 Thread Paul Stewart
Hi, I have been using the CFgrid tag in CF8 (format HTML,  bound to a 
cfc), and i have got it do almost all that i need it do (see below). 
Except that i don't know how to get access to the TOTALROWCOUNT figure 
that i can see in the debugger returned from the CFC , and also be able 
to display that figure either on the bottom of the grid itself (using 
ext.toolbar???), or even above it on the page using another ajax method??.

I need to do this show the user amount of records returned from his/her 
search. i.e 'your search returned x number of records.' From reading Ray 
Camden's blog I know i have to use the underlying Ext library that the 
cfgrid tag is based on, and i have used his solution to format some 
columns in the grid (nice one Ray). But i am not really getting anywhere 
(hopelessly bamboozled) with the records returned figure.

If any kind person would like to me help me i would be indebted to them.






myf = function(data,cellmd,record,row,col,store) {
  return "£ " + data;
  
}
formatgrid = function() {
   mygrid = ColdFusion.Grid.getGridObject('ad');
  
   cm = mygrid.getColumnModel();
   cm.setRenderer(3,myf);
   cm.setRenderer(5,myf);
  
   mygrid.reconfigure(mygrid.getDataSource(),cm);
  }
   
   













   

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Re: CGI parameters

2008-01-16 Thread benjamin schwartz
Well before that i had CF8 (developper) installed as a war app above tomcat
(apache wasn't involved) and it was already giving me this problem. I read
something about a proxy redirecting the requests - i don't think that it's
the case.
It's very strange.
If anyone has something to suggest?  :)

Ben

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> On Wednesday 16 Jan 2008, benjamin schwartz wrote:
> > No. :) I thought of that.
>
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Re: CGI parameters

2008-01-16 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Wednesday 16 Jan 2008, benjamin schwartz wrote:
> No. :) I thought of that.

And it's a normal CF8 install via Apache ? Maybe (on Macs) CF sees this as 
Apache requesting the files, not the end user ?

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Re: CGI parameters

2008-01-16 Thread benjamin schwartz
No. :) I thought of that.



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> On Wednesday 16 Jan 2008, Ben S wrote:
> > Here is the problem when i try to get a client IP address using
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>
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Re: CGI parameters

2008-01-16 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Wednesday 16 Jan 2008, Ben S wrote:
> Here is the problem when i try to get a client IP address using
> #cgi.REMOTE_ADDR# i get the ip address of the server.

Are you running the web browser on the same host as the web server ?

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CGI parameters

2008-01-16 Thread Ben S
Hi,

I just installed CF 8 Standard (running on os X - with apache serving the 
files). 

Here is the problem when i try to get a client IP address using 
#cgi.REMOTE_ADDR# i get the ip address of the server. 
I was reading a thread on here about a similar problem and someone suggested 
using #CGI.HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR# #CGI.HTTP_X_FORWARDED# 
#CGI.HTTP_FORWARDED_FOR# or #CGI.HTTP_FORWARDED# but they don't come back with 
anything and indeed if i do a cfdump for CGI i don't get those variables.
Would anyone know why my server is behaving like that?

Thanks in advance

Ben 

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RE: beat a dead horse?

2008-01-16 Thread Will Swain
Glad to be of help. 



-Original Message-
From: Don L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 15 January 2008 16:32
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: beat a dead horse?

Many thanks, Will, this is exactly what caused the problem which initially I
did not expect, I wished I checked this thread first 45 minutes ago.

One problem with FF2 remains though, that is, the following code would
return a full window instead of current window (what size it may be)   
  
   
   
  

   

To everyone else, many thanks as well.

Don

>Make sure you've nested your cfform tags properly:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Will prevent the content from displaying. 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Will display the content. 
>
>I ran into this the other day. Might be your problem.
>
>You could also try using a plain  instead and see if that works.
>
>Cheers
>
>Will




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ColdFusion 8 Report Builder on Vista Home Premium

2008-01-16 Thread Alfredo Dimaunahan
Hi,

I would like to know if anyone had encountered this same problem on Vista when 
using CF  8 Report Builder:
- cannot import/export styles. On the Report Styles window, click "Export 
Report Styles", the save dialog window will be displayed, then enter the 
filename and click save button. The problem would be that the file you had just 
created cannot be found in that directory! I'm not sure if Vista is preventing 
the Report Builder in creating files. But then, even the import functionality 
is not behaving properly. The new styles are not present in the report.

BTW, my account is an administrator, though i'm not using the administrator 
account itself when i'm using Report builder. I wil have to try that later, but 
I have to report now my experience regarding this matter just in case someone 
can lead me to a fix for that.

Thanks in advance! 

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Re: calendar event

2008-01-16 Thread Ravi Shankar
>OK, I feel like an ass now.  I'm sorry.  From his other thread I see that he
>had already put in some up-front work.  I guess I'm personally annoyed by
>people who don't do any research or attempts before asking for help.  Again,
>I'm sorry Ravi.
>
>Sonny.
>
>P.S. Are you related to the musician with the same name?

I searched google and also the following site 
http://www.bennadel.com/blog/877-ColdFusion-Calendar-Event-Scripting-Inspired-By-Peter-Bell-.htm
 
This site is really good but doesn't cover the part which I am looking for.

My approach is following
-
PatternbaseTable
---
Pattern Id--> 0,1,2,3
Pattern value --> daily,weekly,monthly,yearly

EventTable
-
Pattern Id,
Start time
end time
start date
end date
isRecurence --> which indicates if it is recur event or not.
no_of_occurence
counter --> to keep track on number of recurrences which are over

EventPattern

Patternid   Primary value secondary value
--
0 [ Daily ]  2NULL --> This row means event is daily
   and will recur every 2 days
0 [ Daily ] NULL   1 --> This row means recur every 
 weekday 
1 [ weekly ]  2   MTW --> this row indicates recur every
  2 weeks and the days are M 
  [ monday] T [ tuesday ] and 
  [wednesday]
2 [ Monthly ]  xxx --> I am not clear on how to 
   fill for monthly 
3 [Yearly ]   xxx   --> Not clear

So i want to know if my approach is clear.If yes then what values should I fill 
for monthly and yearly.

For monthly I am having the options like 
"The first sunday of every 3 months"

For yearly I am having the options like
"The first week of march"

The values "first" "sunday" are shown in the drop down list.

So any expert suggestions.

Thanks
Ravi


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Re: designing db tables for calendar events

2008-01-16 Thread Ravi Shankar
> >what are you ideas so far? what design have you come up with on your 
> own?
> >
> >---
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> >http://www.sabai-dee.com
> >
> >
> >
> >Ravi Shankar wrote:
> >>  Ravi
> 
> My approach is following
> -
> PatternbaseTable
> ---
> Pattern Id--> 0,1,2,3
> Pattern value --> daily,weekly,monthly,yearly
> 
> EventTable
> -
> Pattern Id,
> Start time
> end time
> start date
> end date
> isRecurence --> which indicates if it is recur event or not.
> no_of_occurence
> counter --> to keep track on number of recurrences which are over
> 
> EventPattern
> 
> Patternid   Primary value secondary value
> --
> 0 [ Daily ]  2NULL --> This row means 
> event is daily
   
> and will recur every 2 days
> 0 [ Daily ] NULL   1 --> This row means recur 
> every 
 
> weekday 
> 1 [ weekly ]  2   MTW --> this row indicates 
> recur every
  
> 2 weeks and the days are M 
  
> [ monday] T [ tuesday ] and 
  
> [wednesday]
> 2 [ Monthly ]  xxx --> I am not clear on 
> how to fill for
   
> monthly 
> 3 [Yearly ]   xxx   --> Not clear
> 
> So i want to know if my approach is clear.If yes then what values 
> should I fill for monthly and yearly.
> To get a clear incite of what I am taking about,open outlook express 
> and try to configure a meeting and in the recurrence choose monthly 
> and yearly.
> 
> Thanks
> Ravi
> 
> 
> 

I am not clear on how to represent the following

The first tuesday of every 3 month.
The first tuesday of january 

In the approach which i have taken.
Any suggesstions are welcome. 

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