RE: CFHTTP and 30X Redirects

[UXB Internet]

Thanks Dave.  I thought as much and I guess I guessed appropriately in
breaking the loop at 5 

>> Previous versions of this specification recommended a maximum of five
redirections; some clients may exist that implement such a fixed limitation.


-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 8:57 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CFHTTP and 30X Redirects


> My question:  Is there a limit on how many time a URL can be redirected?

Not really:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/URL_redirection#Redirect_loops

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
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Re: CFHTTP and 30X Redirects

[Dave Watts]

> My question:  Is there a limit on how many time a URL can be redirected?

Not really:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/URL_redirection#Redirect_loops

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

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RE: using cfhttp

[UXB Internet]

We use a product called servers alive to monitor websites, servers, email,
disk space, folders (ex cfmail rejected folder) and just about everything
you can imagine.  It outputs to a web page, does email and/or sms messaging
notifications and is a jack of all trades for monitoring things.  I can
highly recommend it.

http://www.woodstone.nu/salive/




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CFHTTP and 30X Redirects

[Dennis Powers]

I am on CF5 so I am using a 3rd party CFX for CFHTTP (CFX_HTTP) and am
making a site for a client who wants us to pull the page info from their
users home pages and also make a screenshot of them.  This is handled just
fine and when there are 301 or 302 codes I can parse the headers to get the
re-directed location without an issue.

My question:  Is there a limit on how many time a URL can be redirected.  So
far in our tests we have found up to 3 redirects from the main one and am
just wondering if there is a limit?  I am most likely going to pick an
arbitrary number to prevent looping forever but wondered if there was an
actual limit in a browser before it gives up?





Dennis,
Webmaster - www.halomaps.org
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Re: using cfhttp

[Al Musella, DPM]

If you are checking for the site to be up, you may as well check that 
everything is working ok also.. What I do is use cfhttp to get my 
home page - but I add a special url parameter which tells my page to 
add an entire record from my user's database at the bottom of the 
page. (I use my own record so I know if I made any recent changes).
I then compare that page to a copy I store in the database.  (I mark 
changeable sections like my banner ad  so I do not count that part of 
the page).. if it is different, I save the page into the database and 
send a text alert to my cellphone which tells me a change has been 
made.. along with a link to a page on my website which shows me the 
code view of the old version as well as the new version so I can see 
what has changed.

This allows me to:
1. Know if the page is working
2. Know if the page has changed (as in the recent ftp hacks)
3. Know if the database was hacked
4. Know if the database server is working




At 11:36 AM 4/6/2010, you wrote:

>Hello,
>
>Is there a way to use cfhttp to see if a site is down? Does it 
>involve using #HTMLCodeFormat(cfhttp.FileContent)# to see if a 403 
>error is downloaded?
>
>Thanks.
>
>RO
>HWW



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RE: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion

[Rick Faircloth]

"Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do when he comes for you..."



-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:mdino...@houseoffusion.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 7:21 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion


Mr. Badguy time again. Please keep posts to the cf-talk list to
technical topics if at all possible. Comments on the music industry,
it's treatment of artists, etc. can and should be moved to the CF-OT
or CF-Community lists.

Just trying to keep the signal to noise ration more to the signal side.

Thanks

--
Michael Dinowitz




On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:00 PM, John Allen  wrote:
>
> The veal is really really good.
>
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Rick Faircloth
wrote:
>
>>
>> Oh, and I wonder how her record company treats its artists...
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 5:23 PM
>> To: cf-talk
>> Subject: RE: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion
>>
>>
>> Keep in mind that most of the musicians of her era were raped by the
record
>> industry, so regardless of how famous she was, that doesn't equate to
being
>> rich in the music industry.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 4:12 PM
>> To: cf-talk
>> Subject: RE: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion
>>
>>
>> It looks like there won't be any monetary consideration
>> for working for Joni Mitchell...she's even got a
>> "Consider a Financial Contribution to JoniMitchell.com"
>> graphic on the home page.
>>
>> Can't this woman afford to host a web site and pay people
>> who work on it?
>>
>> I noticed on the bottom of another page of the site,
>> http://jonimitchell.com/paintings/view.cfm?id=434
>> a "Make a Donation" button.  Below that it reads
>> "Web Design by Far Studios" and "Extra Bandwidth courtesy of
>> InHerEye Photography".
>>
>> Also, "Programming by Front Range Digital Media".  (That's who
>> should be working on the site with GoDaddy, seems to me)
>>
>> She's also got a link to her latest CD for sale...what is she,
>> a charity case?
>>
>> Many of us out here are trying to "keep the ends met in our budgets"
>> and this famous singer is begging for charity?
>>
>> Whatever...
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Alan Rother [mailto:alan.rot...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 4:53 PM
>> To: cf-talk
>> Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion
>>
>>
>> If a VPS solution is too expensive, try CrystalTech.com, they have
varying
>> levels of service starting out around $17 a month.
>>
>> http://crystaltech.com/coldfusion9.aspx
>>
>>
>> =]
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Kevin Pepperman 
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Charlie beat me to it... Move it to Viviotech or some other VPS, Go
Daddy
>> > did this stuff to me years ago. I moved my apps years ago off GD and
>> never
>> > had an issue again.
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > /Kevin Pepperman
>> >
>> > "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
>> > safety,
>> > deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> 



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Re: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion

[Michael Dinowitz]

Mr. Badguy time again. Please keep posts to the cf-talk list to
technical topics if at all possible. Comments on the music industry,
it's treatment of artists, etc. can and should be moved to the CF-OT
or CF-Community lists.

Just trying to keep the signal to noise ration more to the signal side.

Thanks

--
Michael Dinowitz




On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:00 PM, John Allen  wrote:
>
> The veal is really really good.
>
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Rick Faircloth 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Oh, and I wonder how her record company treats its artists...
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 5:23 PM
>> To: cf-talk
>> Subject: RE: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion
>>
>>
>> Keep in mind that most of the musicians of her era were raped by the record
>> industry, so regardless of how famous she was, that doesn't equate to being
>> rich in the music industry.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 4:12 PM
>> To: cf-talk
>> Subject: RE: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion
>>
>>
>> It looks like there won't be any monetary consideration
>> for working for Joni Mitchell...she's even got a
>> "Consider a Financial Contribution to JoniMitchell.com"
>> graphic on the home page.
>>
>> Can't this woman afford to host a web site and pay people
>> who work on it?
>>
>> I noticed on the bottom of another page of the site,
>> http://jonimitchell.com/paintings/view.cfm?id=434
>> a "Make a Donation" button.  Below that it reads
>> "Web Design by Far Studios" and "Extra Bandwidth courtesy of
>> InHerEye Photography".
>>
>> Also, "Programming by Front Range Digital Media".  (That's who
>> should be working on the site with GoDaddy, seems to me)
>>
>> She's also got a link to her latest CD for sale...what is she,
>> a charity case?
>>
>> Many of us out here are trying to "keep the ends met in our budgets"
>> and this famous singer is begging for charity?
>>
>> Whatever...
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Alan Rother [mailto:alan.rot...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 4:53 PM
>> To: cf-talk
>> Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion
>>
>>
>> If a VPS solution is too expensive, try CrystalTech.com, they have varying
>> levels of service starting out around $17 a month.
>>
>> http://crystaltech.com/coldfusion9.aspx
>>
>>
>> =]
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Kevin Pepperman 
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Charlie beat me to it... Move it to Viviotech or some other VPS, Go Daddy
>> > did this stuff to me years ago. I moved my apps years ago off GD and
>> never
>> > had an issue again.
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > /Kevin Pepperman
>> >
>> > "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
>> > safety,
>> > deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> 

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Re: Is ColdFusion request speed based on CPU clock speed alone?

[John Allen]

Barney - that is a very very helpful explanation.

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Mark A. Kruger wrote:

>
> Barney - you are my new hardware hero... nice explanation :)
>
> -Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:bboisv...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 5:02 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Is ColdFusion request speed based on CPU clock speed alone?
>
>
> The instruction width doesn't change the number of instructions you
> can run at any given time.  Certain operations can be done more
> efficiently (for example, adding small numbers can be done
> in-instruction, rather than having to load stuff into registers
> first), but in general it's not going to matter.  You're not going to
> magically get parallelism with 64-bit.
>
> And it has nothing to do with Java (or at least very little).
> Servicing an HTTP request is pretty much a top-to-bottom procedure,
> there isn't a way to easily divide it up into bits of work that can be
> run in parallel.  But since HTTP servers are typically servicing
> multiple concurrent requests, the overhead of trying to parallelize a
> single request is hugely outweighed by simply parallelizing separate
> requests.  If you've got a multicore, multiprocessor machine, it's
> exceptionally unlikely you're going to be one request at a time, so
> trying to optimize that use case is of little value.
>
> To go back to your original scenario.  If 1 request to your machine
> with the 5540s takes 261ms, then I'd expect 16 simultaneous requests
> to also take about 260ms.  The cores/processors will allow those 16
> requests to all run in parallel with all the CPU they can use.
> Contrast this with your 5160s, which can run 1 request in 196ms, but
> should take around 392ms to service those same 16 concurrent requests
> (because it can service 8 at a time, so the second 8 wait while the
> first 8 are processed, and then they get some CPU).  And it's probably
> actually worse than that because unless you have your JVM/CF tuned to
> your request load there will probably be context switches between
> threads so you'll loose a bit of efficiency trying to run 16 requests
> on 8 execution threads.
>
> cheers,
> barneyb
>
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 2:41 PM, John Foster 
> wrote:
> >
> > Do you think a 64 bit OS or CF9 would allow my apps to better utilize
> newer CPU's , or would I still be bottlenecked by java to a single thread /
> request?
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion

[John Allen]

The veal is really really good.

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Rick Faircloth wrote:

>
> Oh, and I wonder how her record company treats its artists...
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 5:23 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: RE: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion
>
>
> Keep in mind that most of the musicians of her era were raped by the record
> industry, so regardless of how famous she was, that doesn't equate to being
> rich in the music industry.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 4:12 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: RE: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion
>
>
> It looks like there won't be any monetary consideration
> for working for Joni Mitchell...she's even got a
> "Consider a Financial Contribution to JoniMitchell.com"
> graphic on the home page.
>
> Can't this woman afford to host a web site and pay people
> who work on it?
>
> I noticed on the bottom of another page of the site,
> http://jonimitchell.com/paintings/view.cfm?id=434
> a "Make a Donation" button.  Below that it reads
> "Web Design by Far Studios" and "Extra Bandwidth courtesy of
> InHerEye Photography".
>
> Also, "Programming by Front Range Digital Media".  (That's who
> should be working on the site with GoDaddy, seems to me)
>
> She's also got a link to her latest CD for sale...what is she,
> a charity case?
>
> Many of us out here are trying to "keep the ends met in our budgets"
> and this famous singer is begging for charity?
>
> Whatever...
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Alan Rother [mailto:alan.rot...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 4:53 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion
>
>
> If a VPS solution is too expensive, try CrystalTech.com, they have varying
> levels of service starting out around $17 a month.
>
> http://crystaltech.com/coldfusion9.aspx
>
>
> =]
>
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Kevin Pepperman 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Charlie beat me to it... Move it to Viviotech or some other VPS, Go Daddy
> > did this stuff to me years ago. I moved my apps years ago off GD and
> never
> > had an issue again.
> >
> >
> > --
> > /Kevin Pepperman
> >
> > "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> > safety,
> > deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 

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RE: Is ColdFusion request speed based on CPU clock speed alone?

[Mark A. Kruger]

Barney - you are my new hardware hero... nice explanation :)

-Mark

-Original Message-
From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:bboisv...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 5:02 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Is ColdFusion request speed based on CPU clock speed alone?


The instruction width doesn't change the number of instructions you
can run at any given time.  Certain operations can be done more
efficiently (for example, adding small numbers can be done
in-instruction, rather than having to load stuff into registers
first), but in general it's not going to matter.  You're not going to
magically get parallelism with 64-bit.

And it has nothing to do with Java (or at least very little).
Servicing an HTTP request is pretty much a top-to-bottom procedure,
there isn't a way to easily divide it up into bits of work that can be
run in parallel.  But since HTTP servers are typically servicing
multiple concurrent requests, the overhead of trying to parallelize a
single request is hugely outweighed by simply parallelizing separate
requests.  If you've got a multicore, multiprocessor machine, it's
exceptionally unlikely you're going to be one request at a time, so
trying to optimize that use case is of little value.

To go back to your original scenario.  If 1 request to your machine
with the 5540s takes 261ms, then I'd expect 16 simultaneous requests
to also take about 260ms.  The cores/processors will allow those 16
requests to all run in parallel with all the CPU they can use.
Contrast this with your 5160s, which can run 1 request in 196ms, but
should take around 392ms to service those same 16 concurrent requests
(because it can service 8 at a time, so the second 8 wait while the
first 8 are processed, and then they get some CPU).  And it's probably
actually worse than that because unless you have your JVM/CF tuned to
your request load there will probably be context switches between
threads so you'll loose a bit of efficiency trying to run 16 requests
on 8 execution threads.

cheers,
barneyb

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 2:41 PM, John Foster  wrote:
>
> Do you think a 64 bit OS or CF9 would allow my apps to better utilize
newer CPU's , or would I still be bottlenecked by java to a single thread /
request?
>
> 



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RE: Is ColdFusion request speed based on CPU clock speed alone?

[Mark A. Kruger]

No... 64 bit doesn't really help the speed of execution. You still have a
thread and a processor core running execution sets It helps with
capacity or "width" of data transfer. It's an important and necessary step -
but misunderstood.  In fact you might notice that some technologies have
moved away from wider and wider data paths toward faster serialization,
notably SATA and PCIe.

-Mark

Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG
(402) 408-3733 ext 105
www.cfwebtools.com
www.coldfusionmuse.com
www.necfug.com


-Original Message-
From: John Foster [mailto:jfos...@turbosquid.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 4:41 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Is ColdFusion request speed based on CPU clock speed alone?


Do you think a 64 bit OS or CF9 would allow my apps to better utilize newer
CPU's , or would I still be bottlenecked by java to a single thread /
request? 



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RE: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion

[Rick Faircloth]

Oh, and I wonder how her record company treats its artists...


-Original Message-
From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 5:23 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion


Keep in mind that most of the musicians of her era were raped by the record
industry, so regardless of how famous she was, that doesn't equate to being
rich in the music industry.

-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 4:12 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion


It looks like there won't be any monetary consideration
for working for Joni Mitchell...she's even got a
"Consider a Financial Contribution to JoniMitchell.com"
graphic on the home page.

Can't this woman afford to host a web site and pay people
who work on it?

I noticed on the bottom of another page of the site,
http://jonimitchell.com/paintings/view.cfm?id=434
a "Make a Donation" button.  Below that it reads
"Web Design by Far Studios" and "Extra Bandwidth courtesy of
InHerEye Photography".

Also, "Programming by Front Range Digital Media".  (That's who
should be working on the site with GoDaddy, seems to me)

She's also got a link to her latest CD for sale...what is she,
a charity case?

Many of us out here are trying to "keep the ends met in our budgets"
and this famous singer is begging for charity?

Whatever...



-Original Message-
From: Alan Rother [mailto:alan.rot...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 4:53 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion


If a VPS solution is too expensive, try CrystalTech.com, they have varying
levels of service starting out around $17 a month.

http://crystaltech.com/coldfusion9.aspx


=]

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Kevin Pepperman  wrote:

>
> Charlie beat me to it... Move it to Viviotech or some other VPS, Go Daddy
> did this stuff to me years ago. I moved my apps years ago off GD and never
> had an issue again.
>
>
> --
> /Kevin Pepperman
>
> "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety,
> deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
>
>
> 







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RE: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion

[Rick Faircloth]

> raped by the record industry

Whatever... seems to me that plenty of artists got rich
with the help of the record industry.  (And wouldn't have
made anything without them...)

She can send me a financial statement showing poverty
and then she can get some assistance.

Or perhaps she could just not go out to eat once and
pay for an entire year of hosting.

She's got plenty of paintings on her site that she refuses
to sell that her fans would love to buy, I'm sure.  She could
sell one painting and buy a dedicated server (and hire a
webmaster, too) for what that would bring in.

I just get annoyed by "famous people" who are always willing
to spend someone else's money instead of their own.

If she's broke, I'll just need some proof and then I'll gladly
do what I can to help her out.



-Original Message-
From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 5:23 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion


Keep in mind that most of the musicians of her era were raped by the record
industry, so regardless of how famous she was, that doesn't equate to being
rich in the music industry.

-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 4:12 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion


It looks like there won't be any monetary consideration
for working for Joni Mitchell...she's even got a
"Consider a Financial Contribution to JoniMitchell.com"
graphic on the home page.

Can't this woman afford to host a web site and pay people
who work on it?

I noticed on the bottom of another page of the site,
http://jonimitchell.com/paintings/view.cfm?id=434
a "Make a Donation" button.  Below that it reads
"Web Design by Far Studios" and "Extra Bandwidth courtesy of
InHerEye Photography".

Also, "Programming by Front Range Digital Media".  (That's who
should be working on the site with GoDaddy, seems to me)

She's also got a link to her latest CD for sale...what is she,
a charity case?

Many of us out here are trying to "keep the ends met in our budgets"
and this famous singer is begging for charity?

Whatever...



-Original Message-
From: Alan Rother [mailto:alan.rot...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 4:53 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion


If a VPS solution is too expensive, try CrystalTech.com, they have varying
levels of service starting out around $17 a month.

http://crystaltech.com/coldfusion9.aspx


=]

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Kevin Pepperman  wrote:

>
> Charlie beat me to it... Move it to Viviotech or some other VPS, Go Daddy
> did this stuff to me years ago. I moved my apps years ago off GD and never
> had an issue again.
>
>
> --
> /Kevin Pepperman
>
> "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety,
> deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
>
>
> 







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Re: Is ColdFusion request speed based on CPU clock speed alone?

[Barney Boisvert]

The instruction width doesn't change the number of instructions you
can run at any given time.  Certain operations can be done more
efficiently (for example, adding small numbers can be done
in-instruction, rather than having to load stuff into registers
first), but in general it's not going to matter.  You're not going to
magically get parallelism with 64-bit.

And it has nothing to do with Java (or at least very little).
Servicing an HTTP request is pretty much a top-to-bottom procedure,
there isn't a way to easily divide it up into bits of work that can be
run in parallel.  But since HTTP servers are typically servicing
multiple concurrent requests, the overhead of trying to parallelize a
single request is hugely outweighed by simply parallelizing separate
requests.  If you've got a multicore, multiprocessor machine, it's
exceptionally unlikely you're going to be one request at a time, so
trying to optimize that use case is of little value.

To go back to your original scenario.  If 1 request to your machine
with the 5540s takes 261ms, then I'd expect 16 simultaneous requests
to also take about 260ms.  The cores/processors will allow those 16
requests to all run in parallel with all the CPU they can use.
Contrast this with your 5160s, which can run 1 request in 196ms, but
should take around 392ms to service those same 16 concurrent requests
(because it can service 8 at a time, so the second 8 wait while the
first 8 are processed, and then they get some CPU).  And it's probably
actually worse than that because unless you have your JVM/CF tuned to
your request load there will probably be context switches between
threads so you'll loose a bit of efficiency trying to run 16 requests
on 8 execution threads.

cheers,
barneyb

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 2:41 PM, John Foster  wrote:
>
> Do you think a 64 bit OS or CF9 would allow my apps to better utilize newer 
> CPU's , or would I still be bottlenecked by java to a single thread / request?
>
> 

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Re: Is ColdFusion request speed based on CPU clock speed alone?

[John Foster]

Do you think a 64 bit OS or CF9 would allow my apps to better utilize newer 
CPU's , or would I still be bottlenecked by java to a single thread / request? 

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RE: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion

[Rick Faircloth]

> Apparently not.

She's not paying for any of it, anyway.  The site is put by
her fans and paid for through donations.  You'd think they might
want to ask for a donation to her own site to help keep it up.

On the site:

"JoniMitchell.com receives no financial support from Joni,
her management, or her record company."

I think it's time she threw some cash behind this effort...sad.

Also on the site:

Server costs to host this site (USD):
$4.83 per day
$33.84 per week
$145.00 per month
$1740.00 per year

I'll agree to host the site for 75% of that cost on my VPS.
I don't know who they're trying to kid... GoDaddy doesn't cost
anywhere near that.  And to run up that kind of bandwidth cost
would take some work.  Looks like somebody's pocketing some cash.

Rather than supporting the charity case formerly known as
Joni Mitchell, I'd rather feed some hungry children...

All this just rubs me the wrong way.

> I'll bet she can't even afford CF Builder!

Dave, why don't you donate a copy to "Front Range Digital Media", which
is Les Irvin's web business who built the site for her.  Perhaps
it can help them figure out the problem they're having.

> Try the veal!

I tried it once...just couldn't develop a taste for it.  Send it
to Joni so she'll have something to eat.

> I'll be here all week.

Good to know!  We all depend on ya, Dave! :o)

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 5:22 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion


> Can't this woman afford to host a web site and pay people
> who work on it?

Apparently not. I'll bet she can't even afford CF Builder!

I'll be here all week. Try the veal!

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.



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RE: Is ColdFusion request speed based on CPU clock speed alone?

[Mark A. Kruger]

Request per core and per execution thread per core. HT procs handle 2 exec
threads per core - that's why you see a quad core proc with 8 proc windows
in the task manager. Not sure if the JVM can take advantage of
hyperthreading ... but I suspect 1.5 or later will. It's certainly been
around for a while.

I would also suggest that on die caching is an important feature for proc
speed... probably as important or more important than sheer clock speed for
any proc over 2ghz. But Barney's point is right on. the test below makes
perfect sense to me. What you really need to test is performance under load.
That's where the multiple cores will help - when you have concurrent
requests as Barney stated.

-Mark

Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG
(402) 408-3733 ext 105
www.cfwebtools.com
www.coldfusionmuse.com
www.necfug.com


-Original Message-
From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:bboisv...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 3:58 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Is ColdFusion request speed based on CPU clock speed alone?


CF request are single threaded, so they can only use a single core at
a time.  Decent DB software will parallelize across multiple cores
(and processors) if available.  Second, the instruction set that the
JVM converts your bytecode to is probably not going to leverage any
new functionality that might be available in a newer-gen processor, so
unless they've made changes to the way basic instructions are
implemented on-die, a newer gen chip isn't going to help.

So yeah, for the question you're asking, CPU clock speed is the
primary determinant.  In real life you typically have concurrent
requests, in which case those extra cores will help (since you can run
a request per core).

cheers,
barneyb

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 1:38 PM, John Foster  wrote:
>
> I'm running ColdFusion8 on Windows 2003 x32 bit machines. From my research
It appears that CF request speed is directly correlated to CPU clock, not
number of cores, cache, or bus speed.
>
> Here are the average page load times from a group of test pages on 3
different machines:
>
> 2x single core opteron 246 (2Ghz / core):  251ms
> 2x Dual core Xeon 5160 (3Ghz / core):  196ms
> 2x Quad core Xeon 5540 (2.53Ghz / core):  261ms
>
> I would have expected the Xeon 5440 to process requests the fastest, but
that's not the case.  We're running database servers on similar Xeon 5540
machines and the SQL performance on those boxes if far better that what we
would get with the Opteron's or Xeon 5160's.
>
> Does anyone know why requests run on the older generation xeon 5160 would
be 20% faster than the current generation 5540?  Is the speed of a
ColdFusion app purely based on clock speed in anyone elses experience?
>
> Thx,
>
> John

-- 
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bboisv...@gmail.com
http://www.barneyb



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RE: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion

[Eric Roberts]

Keep in mind that most of the musicians of her era were raped by the record
industry, so regardless of how famous she was, that doesn't equate to being
rich in the music industry.

-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 4:12 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion


It looks like there won't be any monetary consideration
for working for Joni Mitchell...she's even got a
"Consider a Financial Contribution to JoniMitchell.com"
graphic on the home page.

Can't this woman afford to host a web site and pay people
who work on it?

I noticed on the bottom of another page of the site,
http://jonimitchell.com/paintings/view.cfm?id=434
a "Make a Donation" button.  Below that it reads
"Web Design by Far Studios" and "Extra Bandwidth courtesy of
InHerEye Photography".

Also, "Programming by Front Range Digital Media".  (That's who
should be working on the site with GoDaddy, seems to me)

She's also got a link to her latest CD for sale...what is she,
a charity case?

Many of us out here are trying to "keep the ends met in our budgets"
and this famous singer is begging for charity?

Whatever...



-Original Message-
From: Alan Rother [mailto:alan.rot...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 4:53 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion


If a VPS solution is too expensive, try CrystalTech.com, they have varying
levels of service starting out around $17 a month.

http://crystaltech.com/coldfusion9.aspx


=]

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Kevin Pepperman  wrote:

>
> Charlie beat me to it... Move it to Viviotech or some other VPS, Go Daddy
> did this stuff to me years ago. I moved my apps years ago off GD and never
> had an issue again.
>
>
> --
> /Kevin Pepperman
>
> "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety,
> deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
>
>
> 





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Re: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion

[Dave Watts]

> Can't this woman afford to host a web site and pay people
> who work on it?

Apparently not. I'll bet she can't even afford CF Builder!

I'll be here all week. Try the veal!

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.

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Re: test

[funand learning]

Actually, I am not able to see my post on houseoffusion.com website. I am
able to get them to my gmail immediately..

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Michael Dinowitz <
mdino...@houseoffusion.com> wrote:

>
> Actually it is a header, though maybe not one you would expect.
>
> Each email message sent has a unique message-id. When gmail sees 2
> emails with the same message-id, it keeps the first (the one you sent)
> and discards the second (the one from the list). I wrote the list
> software to keep the message-id of a message sent to the list and
> duplicate it on the message going out. Two messages of the same
> message-id, even though they have different bodies and other headers,
> are the same message according to gmail.
>
> All I have to do is assign a new message-id to outgoing emails and
> they'll show up in gmail no matter what.
>
> --
> Michael Dinowitz
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Tom Chiverton
>  wrote:
> > On Wednesday 07 Apr 2010, Michael Dinowitz wrote:
> >> If there is a call for it, I can alter the list code to 'force' gmail
> >> to always display an email that you send to the list, resulting in one
> >
> > Is this just a header or something other software can use ?
> >
> > --
> > Helping to proactively transition fourth-generation meta-services as part
> of
> > the IT team of the year 2010, '09 and '08
> >
> > 
> >
> > This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP.
> >
> > Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England
> and
> > Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is
> at
> > Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A
> list
> > of members is available for inspection at the registered office together
> > with a list of those non members who are referred to as partners. We use
> the
> > word “partner” to refer to a member of the LLP, or an employee or
> consultant
> > with equivalent standing and qualifications. Regulated by the Solicitors
> > Regulation Authority.
> >
> > CONFIDENTIALITY
> >
> > This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and
> may
> > be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you
> must
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> > inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its
> > existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please
> > delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500.
> >
> > For more information about Halliwells LLP visit 
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annoying table issue...

[Eric Roberts]

I am having a browser rendering issue.  I have a dynamic table.  It is
displaying radio buttons for a job assessment.  The assessment can have up
to 10 responses, so the number of radio buttons is dynamic.  I have it set
with 5 columns (a second row will show up if there are 6 or more responses).
If there are less than 5 (from 6-9 responses) it puts radio buttons in the
appropriate cells and then I use a spacer gif for the "empty cells", so, for
instance, if there are 2 responses, you have:  button button blank blank
blank.  The cells have borders (using images rather than the table border).
Here's the code (it repeats the response cells if there are more than 5
obviously.)

 







  



  



  





 

 

The href is for an ajax call for a dynamic mouseover  label.  This snippet
is repeated 5 times to generate the 5 cells across.cell width =
'width="20%"'

 

 

This looks great in IE, but in FF, it adds a pixel to the last cell with a
radio button to any rows that do not have 5 buttons.  Rows that are either
blank or have 5 buttons render as expected.  I have tried adjusting the
width of the spacer gif differently than the td width, but that didn't help.
I have been banging my head over this all day.  Help!!!

 

Any ideas?



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RE: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion

[brad]

The site seems pretty snappy to me.  I'd bet you are taking too much
bandwidth with the media downloads.  If that truly is the problem, see
if you can pay more for additional bandwidth, or most all the large
media to an Amazon S3 bucket.  They charge peanuts.

~Brad


 Original Message 
Subject: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion
From: Les Irvin 
Date: Wed, April 07, 2010 3:22 pm
To: cf-talk 


Help me, I think I'm falling... here's an odd request for a certain
individual. Joni's official site is hosted on a GoDaddy server (don't
ask) running CF8. They keep shutting it down for overloading the
server - asking me to streamline the code to avoid continued
violations. 


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Re: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion

[Eric Cobb]

yeah, Go Daddy is crap!  I documented my last run-in with them:

http://www.cfgears.com/index.cfm/2009/4/23/How-GoDaddy-Destroyed-my-Clients-Site

thanks,

eric cobb
http://www.cfgears.com



Kevin Pepperman wrote:
> Charlie beat me to it... Move it to Viviotech or some other VPS, Go Daddy
> did this stuff to me years ago. I moved my apps years ago off GD and never
> had an issue again.
>
>
>   


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Re: Fastest Hardware for ColdFusion 9?

[John Foster]

Sure, but the quad core is handling the same number of requests and processing 
them slower than the dual core.  On top of that the quad core machine's bus is 
more than twice as fast (533Mhz vs 1333Mhz) which I assumed may have made up 
for the slower clock speed.


>More cores doesn't mean "faster" it means more processing ability.
>
>In your example you compared a faster (3Ghz) Dual Core to a slower (2.53Ghz)
>Quad Core.
>
>In Practical Theory, the Quad Core can handle more requests per second than
>the Dual Core, but not twice as many requests... There is a factor
>of diminishing returns as you add more cores.
>
>=]
>
>
>
>> 

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RE: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion

[Rick Faircloth]

It looks like there won't be any monetary consideration
for working for Joni Mitchell...she's even got a
"Consider a Financial Contribution to JoniMitchell.com"
graphic on the home page.

Can't this woman afford to host a web site and pay people
who work on it?

I noticed on the bottom of another page of the site,
http://jonimitchell.com/paintings/view.cfm?id=434
a "Make a Donation" button.  Below that it reads
"Web Design by Far Studios" and "Extra Bandwidth courtesy of
InHerEye Photography".

Also, "Programming by Front Range Digital Media".  (That's who
should be working on the site with GoDaddy, seems to me)

She's also got a link to her latest CD for sale...what is she,
a charity case?

Many of us out here are trying to "keep the ends met in our budgets"
and this famous singer is begging for charity?

Whatever...



-Original Message-
From: Alan Rother [mailto:alan.rot...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 4:53 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion


If a VPS solution is too expensive, try CrystalTech.com, they have varying
levels of service starting out around $17 a month.

http://crystaltech.com/coldfusion9.aspx


=]

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Kevin Pepperman  wrote:

>
> Charlie beat me to it... Move it to Viviotech or some other VPS, Go Daddy
> did this stuff to me years ago. I moved my apps years ago off GD and never
> had an issue again.
>
>
> --
> /Kevin Pepperman
>
> "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety,
> deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
>
>
> 



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Re: Is ColdFusion request speed based on CPU clock speed alone?

[Barney Boisvert]

CF request are single threaded, so they can only use a single core at
a time.  Decent DB software will parallelize across multiple cores
(and processors) if available.  Second, the instruction set that the
JVM converts your bytecode to is probably not going to leverage any
new functionality that might be available in a newer-gen processor, so
unless they've made changes to the way basic instructions are
implemented on-die, a newer gen chip isn't going to help.

So yeah, for the question you're asking, CPU clock speed is the
primary determinant.  In real life you typically have concurrent
requests, in which case those extra cores will help (since you can run
a request per core).

cheers,
barneyb

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 1:38 PM, John Foster  wrote:
>
> I'm running ColdFusion8 on Windows 2003 x32 bit machines. From my research It 
> appears that CF request speed is directly correlated to CPU clock, not number 
> of cores, cache, or bus speed.
>
> Here are the average page load times from a group of test pages on 3 
> different machines:
>
> 2x single core opteron 246 (2Ghz / core):  251ms
> 2x Dual core Xeon 5160 (3Ghz / core):  196ms
> 2x Quad core Xeon 5540 (2.53Ghz / core):  261ms
>
> I would have expected the Xeon 5440 to process requests the fastest, but 
> that's not the case.  We're running database servers on similar Xeon 5540 
> machines and the SQL performance on those boxes if far better that what we 
> would get with the Opteron's or Xeon 5160's.
>
> Does anyone know why requests run on the older generation xeon 5160 would be 
> 20% faster than the current generation 5540?  Is the speed of a ColdFusion 
> app purely based on clock speed in anyone elses experience?
>
> Thx,
>
> John

-- 
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bboisv...@gmail.com
http://www.barneyb

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Re: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion

[Gerald Guido]

>>Go Daddy did this stuff to me years ago.

So they shut down your site if it starts getting traffic? WTF?

G!


On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Kevin Pepperman  wrote:

>
> Charlie beat me to it... Move it to Viviotech or some other VPS, Go Daddy
> did this stuff to me years ago. I moved my apps years ago off GD and never
> had an issue again.
>
>
> --
> /Kevin Pepperman
>
> "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety,
> deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
>
>
> 

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Re: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion

[Alan Rother]

If a VPS solution is too expensive, try CrystalTech.com, they have varying
levels of service starting out around $17 a month.

http://crystaltech.com/coldfusion9.aspx


=]

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Kevin Pepperman  wrote:

>
> Charlie beat me to it... Move it to Viviotech or some other VPS, Go Daddy
> did this stuff to me years ago. I moved my apps years ago off GD and never
> had an issue again.
>
>
> --
> /Kevin Pepperman
>
> "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety,
> deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
>
>
> 

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Is ColdFusion request speed based on CPU clock speed alone?

[John Foster]

I'm running ColdFusion8 on Windows 2003 x32 bit machines. From my research It 
appears that CF request speed is directly correlated to CPU clock, not number 
of cores, cache, or bus speed.  

Here are the average page load times from a group of test pages on 3 different 
machines:

2x single core opteron 246 (2Ghz / core):  251ms
2x Dual core Xeon 5160 (3Ghz / core):  196ms
2x Quad core Xeon 5540 (2.53Ghz / core):  261ms

I would have expected the Xeon 5440 to process requests the fastest, but that's 
not the case.  We're running database servers on similar Xeon 5540 machines and 
the SQL performance on those boxes if far better that what we would get with 
the Opteron's or Xeon 5160's.

Does anyone know why requests run on the older generation xeon 5160 would be 
20% faster than the current generation 5540?  Is the speed of a ColdFusion app 
purely based on clock speed in anyone elses experience?

Thx,

John 

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Re: Fastest Hardware for ColdFusion 9?

[Alan Rother]

More cores doesn't mean "faster" it means more processing ability.

In your example you compared a faster (3Ghz) Dual Core to a slower (2.53Ghz)
Quad Core.

In Practical Theory, the Quad Core can handle more requests per second than
the Dual Core, but not twice as many requests... There is a factor
of diminishing returns as you add more cores.

=]

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 1:30 PM, John Foster  wrote:

>
> So I'm going to have to stick with 32 bit machines for a bit longer while
> we find alternatives for some com's we're using that don't work on a 64 bit
> platform.
>
> From my research It appears that request speed is directly correlated to
> CPU clock, not number of cores, cache, or bus speed.
>
> Here are the average page load times from 3 different machines:
>
> 2x single core opteron 246 (2Ghz / core):  251ms
> 2x Dual core Xeon 5160 (3Ghz / core):  196ms
> 2x Quad core Xeon 5540 (2.53Ghz / core):  261ms
>
> We're running database servers on similar Xeon 5540 machines and the SQL
> performance on those boxes if far better that what we would get with the
> Opteron's or Xeon 5160's.
>
> Does anyone know why requests on the older generation xeon 5160 would be
> 20% faster than the current generation 5540?  Is the speed of a ColdFusion
> app purely based on clock speed in anyone elses experience?
>
> Thx,
>
> John
>
> 

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Re: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion

[Kevin Pepperman]

Charlie beat me to it... Move it to Viviotech or some other VPS, Go Daddy
did this stuff to me years ago. I moved my apps years ago off GD and never
had an issue again.


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deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin


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RE: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion

[UXB Internet]

>> They keep shutting it down for overloading the server - 
>> asking me to streamline the code to avoid continued violations.  

What does "overloading the server" actually mean in their parlance?  Is it
consuming too much bandwidth or too much CPU or memory?  All three have
different possible solutions.

And Yes I am a fan but probably not the right person to streamline code.


Dennis Powers
UXB Internet - A Website Design & Hosting Company
P.O. Box 6028
Wolcott, CT 06716
203-879-2844
http://www.uxbinternet.com





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Re: Fastest Hardware for ColdFusion 9?

[John Foster]

So I'm going to have to stick with 32 bit machines for a bit longer while we 
find alternatives for some com's we're using that don't work on a 64 bit 
platform.

>From my research It appears that request speed is directly correlated to CPU 
>clock, not number of cores, cache, or bus speed.  

Here are the average page load times from 3 different machines:

2x single core opteron 246 (2Ghz / core):  251ms
2x Dual core Xeon 5160 (3Ghz / core):  196ms
2x Quad core Xeon 5540 (2.53Ghz / core):  261ms

We're running database servers on similar Xeon 5540 machines and the SQL 
performance on those boxes if far better that what we would get with the 
Opteron's or Xeon 5160's.

Does anyone know why requests on the older generation xeon 5160 would be 20% 
faster than the current generation 5540?  Is the speed of a ColdFusion app 
purely based on clock speed in anyone elses experience?

Thx,

John 

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Re: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion

[mac jordan]

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Les Irvin  wrote:

> In return, I'll put a link to whatever site you want in the footer of
> every page, and of course you'll have the satisfaction of helping out
> all the Joni fans across the globe.
>


No financial recompense?  I would have thought Ms Mitchell could afford to
pay someone (and I speak as a huge fan).

-- 
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Re: Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion

[Charlie Griefer]

So there's no chance of -not- hosting it with GoDaddy?  'cuz I bet that'd
help a bit.

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Les Irvin  wrote:

>
> Help me, I think I'm falling... here's an odd request for a certain
> individual.  Joni's official site is hosted on a GoDaddy server (don't
> ask) running CF8.  They keep shutting it down for overloading the
> server - asking me to streamline the code to avoid continued
> violations.  I'm sure my code sucks, but it's been on other servers
> without issue from those hosts.
>
> Would anyone out there, perhaps a Joni fan, volunteer to take a look
> at some code, shake their head in disgust at the awfulness of it, and
> help me rewrite inefficient sections?  This feels a bit like walking
> naked through a crowd, but hey
>
> In return, I'll put a link to whatever site you want in the footer of
> every page, and of course you'll have the satisfaction of helping out
> all the Joni fans across the globe.  The site gets about 2500 unique
> visitors a day.
>
> http://jonimitchell.com
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Les
>
> 

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Re: Fastest Hardware for ColdFusion 9?

[John Foster]

So I'm going to have to stick with 32 bit machines for a bit longer while we 
find alternatives for some com's we're using that don't work on a 64 bit 
platform.

>From my research It appears that request speed is directly correlated to CPU 
>clock, not number of cores, cache, or bus speed.  

Here are the average page load times from 3 different machines:

2x single core opteron 246 (2Ghz / core):  251ms
2x Dual core Xeon 5160 (3Ghz / core):  196ms
2x Quad core Xeon 5540 (2.53Ghz / core):  261ms

We're running database servers on similar Xeon 5540 machines and the SQL 
performance on those boxes if far better that what we would get with the 
Opteron's or Xeon 5160's.

Does anyone know why requests run on the older generation xeon 5160 would be 
20% faster than the current generation 5540?  Is the speed of a ColdFusion app 
purely based on clock speed in anyone elses experience?

Thx,

John





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Joni Mitchell and Cold Fusion

[Les Irvin]

Help me, I think I'm falling... here's an odd request for a certain
individual.  Joni's official site is hosted on a GoDaddy server (don't
ask) running CF8.  They keep shutting it down for overloading the
server - asking me to streamline the code to avoid continued
violations.  I'm sure my code sucks, but it's been on other servers
without issue from those hosts.

Would anyone out there, perhaps a Joni fan, volunteer to take a look
at some code, shake their head in disgust at the awfulness of it, and
help me rewrite inefficient sections?  This feels a bit like walking
naked through a crowd, but hey

In return, I'll put a link to whatever site you want in the footer of
every page, and of course you'll have the satisfaction of helping out
all the Joni fans across the globe.  The site gets about 2500 unique
visitors a day.

http://jonimitchell.com

Thanks in advance,
Les

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RE: Regex to remove script and style blocks

[UXB Internet]

I have two mental blocks Secure certificates and REgEx. I am sure therapy
might help  but right now I just need to someone to tell me where I
am going wrong.  The rereplace does not seem to work.

]*>.*?' , '' , 'all' )>


These are the actual code snippets I am trying to remove from a page:


var gaJsHost = (("https:" == document.location.protocol) ? "https://ssl."; :
"http://www.";);
document.write(unescape("%3Cscript src='" + gaJsHost +
"google-analytics.com/ga.js' type='text/javascript'%3E%3C/script%3E"));



try {
var pageTracker = _gat._getTracker("");
pageTracker._trackPageview();
} catch(err) {}




-Original Message-
From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:charlie.grie...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 3:22 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Regex to remove script and style blocks


See
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/9.0/Developing/WSc3ff6d0ea77859461172
e0811cbec0a38f-7ffb.html
for
the flag to trigger multi-line capabilities in regex.

(?m)]*>.*?

should do it.

]*>.*?' , '' , 'all' )>

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 9:29 PM, UXB Internet wrote:

>
> I am at a loss as to how to structure a regex to remove a JavaScript block
> from a file using CF5.  What I am trying to do is remove the " everything including and between /script>". something like this:
>
> 
>
> 
>
> I have tried this but it give me and error: Bad regular expression
>
> .*?","",
> "all")>
>
> Assistance would be appreciated.
>
>
> Dennis Powers
> UXB Internet - A Website Design & Hosting Company
> P.O. Box 6028
> Wolcott, CT 06716
> 203-879-2844
> http://www.uxbinternet.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 



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ColdFusion Distributed Mode

[brad f]

Have a question in regards to setting up distributed mode. We have ran in 
distributed mode for years with CF7 and windows 2000. We are in the process of 
upgrading to CF9 and Windows 2008. The problem I am having is the we used to be 
able to have all of our code on a fileserver and point IIS to that UNC path and 
life was good. Now the only way to get Coldfusion to server CFM pages is to 
have the CFM code on both the fileserver and the CF servers as well. It will 
give an error of "file not found" if you do not.

Now I know in the documentation it says this is the way you have to set it up.. 
but I guess my two questions are
1. Why did it work before with the code only being in one place?
2. Why is the CFM files needed in both the file server (where IIS points for 
webcode) and on the CF boxes as well?

Any help is appreciated. 

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ColdFusion Distributed Mode

[brad f]

Have a question in regards to setting up distributed mode. We have ran in 
distributed mode for years with CF7 and windows 2000. We are in the process of 
upgrading to CF9 and Windows 2008. The problem I am having is the we used to be 
able to have all of our code on a fileserver and point IIS to that UNC path and 
life was good. Now the only way to get Coldfusion to server CFM pages is to 
have the CFM code on both the fileserver and the CF servers as well. It will 
give an error of "file not found" if you do not.

Now I know in the documentation it says this is the way you have to set it up.. 
but I guess my two questions are
1. Why did it work before with the code only being in one place?
2. Why is the CFM files needed in both the file server (where IIS points for 
webcode) and on the CF boxes as well?

Any help is appreciated. 

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Re: CFDocs

[Barney Boisvert]

cfquickdocs.com is a similar concept and it has modern docs.  I'd
imagine cfdocs.org was probably abandoned if it's that old, quite
likely because cfquickdocs is around now.

cheers,
barneyb

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Dave Sueltenfuss  wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if the creator of cfdocs.org has plans to update the site
> to use the latest versions of CF Documentation
> It's still pointing to CF7'd documents
>
>
> 

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RE: CFDocs

[Andy Matthews]

You should probably consider using http://www.cfquickdocs.com/cf9/

Has access to 7, 8, and 9 docs.



andy 

-Original Message-
From: Dave Sueltenfuss [mailto:dsueltenf...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 11:31 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: CFDocs


Does anyone know if the creator of cfdocs.org has plans to update the site
to use the latest versions of CF Documentation It's still pointing to CF7'd
documents




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Re: CFDocs

[Charlie Griefer]

Not familiar with that site.

But you could always use http://www.cfquickdocs.com or http://cfmldocs.com/ ,
both of which contain CF9 docs

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Dave Sueltenfuss wrote:

>
> Does anyone know if the creator of cfdocs.org has plans to update the site
> to use the latest versions of CF Documentation
> It's still pointing to CF7'd documents
>
>
> 

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Re: test

[Michael Dinowitz]

Actually it is a header, though maybe not one you would expect.

Each email message sent has a unique message-id. When gmail sees 2
emails with the same message-id, it keeps the first (the one you sent)
and discards the second (the one from the list). I wrote the list
software to keep the message-id of a message sent to the list and
duplicate it on the message going out. Two messages of the same
message-id, even though they have different bodies and other headers,
are the same message according to gmail.

All I have to do is assign a new message-id to outgoing emails and
they'll show up in gmail no matter what.

--
Michael Dinowitz




On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Tom Chiverton
 wrote:
> On Wednesday 07 Apr 2010, Michael Dinowitz wrote:
>> If there is a call for it, I can alter the list code to 'force' gmail
>> to always display an email that you send to the list, resulting in one
>
> Is this just a header or something other software can use ?
>
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CFDocs

[Dave Sueltenfuss]

Does anyone know if the creator of cfdocs.org has plans to update the site
to use the latest versions of CF Documentation
It's still pointing to CF7'd documents


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cfquery writing to the wrong table..

[Phillip Vector]

I have an app I'm coding that will read a csv file and do some magic
on it and populate an Accounting_Temp table for moving to the main
table. It works until I get into commas in a field
(UnqualifiedReason). Any ideas on what could be happening or where I
can look?

===
* Up to this point in the code, the data is correct and stored on
Accounting_Temp correctly. *


Select *
from Accounting_Temp




* Still looking good.. *



Select *
from Accounting
Where EnrollmentNumber = #Check.EnrollmentNumber#


* Kablam! At this point, the Check dump shows that "test1, test2,
test3" is now "test1" in the database on Account_Temp. I also confirm
that the DB got rewritten with just Test1 *



Insert into Accounting

(Id,EnrollmentNumber,EnrollmentChannel,StatusName,PromoCode,QualificationType,CreationDate,State,ZipCode,UnqualifiedReason,
EnteredDate)
Values

('#Check.Id#',#Check.EnrollmentNumber#,'#Check.EnrollmentChannel#','#Check.StatusName#','#Check.PromoCode#','#Check.QualificationType#',#Check.CreationDate#,'#Check.State#','#Check.ZipCode#','#Check.UnqualifiedReason#',
Now())

#Check.EnrollmentNumber# Added



Update Accounting
Set Id='#Check.Id#'
,EnrollmentChannel='#Check.EnrollmentChannel#'
,StatusName='#Check.StatusName#'
,PromoCode='#Check.PromoCode#'
,QualificationType='#Check.QualificationType#'
,CreationDate=#Check.CreationDate#
,State='#Check.State#'
,ZipCode='#Check.ZipCode#'
,UnqualifiedReason='#Check.UnqualifiedReason#'
Where EnrollmentNumber=#Check.EnrollmentNumber#

#Check.EnrollmentNumber# Updated



#Added# added and #Updated# updated (out of #check.Recordcount# records)


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RE: using cfhttp

[Andy Matthews]

http://aremysitesup.com/

Run by Chris Coyier of CSS-tricks.com


andy 

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Smith [mailto:chedders...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 8:25 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: using cfhttp


Can you recommend any?

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:00 AM, Brian Thornton
wrote:

>
> or just sign up for the many free alerting services.
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Andy Matthews 
> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Additionally you can make the request a little lighter by just 
> > making a
> HEAD
> > request instead of a get or post.
> >
> > http://www.andymatthews.net"; method="head">
> >
> > It doesn't return the entire body of the site in the filecontent key.
> >
> >
> > andy
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:charlie.grie...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 10:47 AM
> > To: cf-talk
> > Subject: Re: using cfhttp
> >
> >
> > d'oH!  yeah, cfhttp.statusCode.  not cfhttp.fileStatus.  :)
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Kevin Pepperman 
> > 
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Using cfhttp will return a cfhttp.statusCode, which if is "200 OK" 
> >> you know the URL has resolved correct.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> /Kevin Pepperman
> >>
> >> "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little 
> >> temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin 
> >> Franklin
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 



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RE: coldfusion.ajax.submitform

[webmaster]

Thanks. The '' is what I was missing. Always something simple we
overlook in the end :)



-Original Message-
From: Kris Sisk [mailto:ks...@gckschools.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 9:26 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: coldfusion.ajax.submitform


You're passing an undefined variable rather than the form's id with your
link. Try this:

 



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Re: Read and display document in HTML

[Dave Watts]

> Does anyone have a simple solution to read a word doc or excel file and 
> display it on the screen in HTML? Using cffile and
> outputting it only displays a garbled mess.

You could convert the document to HTML - there are various tools to do
that - or you could embed the document using the appropriate
OBJECT/EMBED tags to show Word or Excel embedded within the HTML page.

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Read and display document in HTML

[Chad Baloga]

Does anyone have a simple solution to read a word doc or excel file and display 
it on the screen in HTML? Using cffile and outputting it only displays a 
garbled mess.

Thanks 

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Re: test

[Charlie Griefer]

this one?

http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332658

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:07 AM, fun and learning wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
> This is a a test message. My previous two posts are not displayed on house
> of fusion
>
> 

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Re: test

[Michael Dinowitz]

Sometimes the archives get a little behind in displaying posts. On the
other hand, the rss feeds for each list will always show the latest
messages so you can always check that to see if your post has gone
through.

The problem is that when using gmail, their software prevents you from
getting a copy of an email that you send to a list (a 'feature' I
dislike).

If there is a call for it, I can alter the list code to 'force' gmail
to always display an email that you send to the list, resulting in one
copy that you sent (in your sent mail) and another in your inbox.

--
Michael Dinowitz




On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:07 AM, fun and learning
 wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> This is a a test message. My previous two posts are not displayed on house of 
> fusion
>
> 

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test

[fun and learning]

Hello,

This is a a test message. My previous two posts are not displayed on house of 
fusion 

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Re: SOT: external css not displaying

[Dave Watts]

> What a pain in the ass but you called it Dave.. thanks!

Just to toot my own horn, this is covered in detail in the Advanced
ColdFusion course.

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Re: SOT: external css not displaying

[Greg Morphis]

What a pain in the ass but you called it Dave.. thanks!

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Dave Watts  wrote:
>
>> Using the 

Re: SOT: external css not displaying

[Dave Watts]

> Using the 

Re: SOT: external css not displaying

[Greg Morphis]

Using the  tags isn't working either.
If I comment out the http://snipt.org/Jyh

You can see all the places I tried the  tags.
Maybe you can see something I don't.. This is ColdFusion 7.02 on a
Windows 2000 server

Thanks!



On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 8:33 AM, DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT)
 wrote:
>
> I've never been able to get the "link" tag to work with cfdocument.
>
> Try this:
>