Re: ColdFusion 9 ajax controls
On 7/30/2010 8:45 PM, Andrew Scott wrote: Ian, I really hate to burst your bubble You may be relieved to know that my bubble is just fine and unbursted, I was saying the same thing. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335934 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
(ot) Eclipse hangs on startup.
Over the last couple of weeks I've noticed that my Eclipse seems to take a really long time to start up. It always hangs at the splash screen forever, then finally it starts loading. Once the loading bar appears, it only takes about 15-20 seconds to load. This morning I timed it and it stayed on the startup screen for almost 7 minutes before it started loading. Once it finally opens up, I can close it an reopen it and it takes less than a minute. But, that initial startup after I log in, reboot, etc.., always hangs at the splash screen for 4-7 minutes. I'm using Eclipse 3.5.2, 64 bit, on Windows 7 Professional 64 bit with 4GB of RAM. In an effort to fix the problem, I installed Java version 6, update 21. It just came out last week and is supposed to have some bug fixes aimed specifically at Eclipse. That didn't help anything. I also have Eclipse 3.5.2, 32 bit, on this machine and it takes just as long to start up. Just to see, I set up a fresh blank install of 3.5.2, 64 bit, and it came up with no problems. I've searched the interwebs trying to find a way to tweak my eclipse.ini settings, and so far I haven't been able to find anything that fixes this. I've even restored the eclipse.ini file back to the original and it's still slow. At first I thought it may be a plugin that was causing this, so I uninstalled all unnecessary plugins, but that didn't fix it. I even made sure that my 32 bit and 64 bit didn't have the same plugins installed, and they don't. The only core features they have installed in common are: -Eclipse Data Tools Platform -Eclipse Mylyn -Eclipse Modeling Project So, I'm guess that one of these is the culprit. I'm really not sure, though. Does anyone know if there is any way to tell what's causing Eclipse to hang at the splash screen for so long? Some way to get a behind the scenes look at what's going on? -- Thanks, Eric Cobb ECAR Technologies, LLC http://www.ecartech.com http://www.cfgears.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335935 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: (ot) Eclipse hangs on startup.
On a similar note, is there going to be an update to CFEclipse for Helios? It doesn't seem to want to load up (or does someone know how to remedy this? Eric ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335936 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: (ot) Eclipse hangs on startup.
I don't know if this is related but I had a similar situation where Eclipse would hang at start up and at seemingly random moments. All of my Eclipse installs became pretty much unusable at the same time. Two things fixed it for me. Defraging and Jacking up the RAM. Defragging helped a lot. My HD was a big red splotch when I looked at it in Smart Defrag. I jacked up the RAM in the eclipse.ini like so. org.eclipse.platform --launcher.XXMaxPermSize 1024M and at the bottom of the file -Dosgi.requiredJavaVersion=1.5 -Xms40m -Xmx512m BTW Eclipse.ini is pretty picky on what values it will accept and I found these to work after trial and error. HTH G! On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Eric Cobb cft...@ecartech.com wrote: Over the last couple of weeks I've noticed that my Eclipse seems to take a really long time to start up. It always hangs at the splash screen forever, then finally it starts loading. Once the loading bar appears, it only takes about 15-20 seconds to load. This morning I timed it and it stayed on the startup screen for almost 7 minutes before it started loading. Once it finally opens up, I can close it an reopen it and it takes less than a minute. But, that initial startup after I log in, reboot, etc.., always hangs at the splash screen for 4-7 minutes. Thanks, Eric Cobb ECAR Technologies, LLC http://www.ecartech.com http://www.cfgears.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335937 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Adobe CF8 Docs Down
Has anyone noticed the Adobe CF8 docs are down? Been like this for several days now. http://www.adobe.com/go/livedocs_cf8docs_cfml_reference Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be . Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5338 (20100803) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335938 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Adobe CF8 Docs Down
Has anyone noticed the Adobe CF8 docs are down? Been like this for several days now. http://www.adobe.com/go/livedocs_cf8docs_cfml_reference http://livedocs.adobe.com/coldfusion/8/htmldocs/index.html Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335939 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Adobe CF8 Docs Down
Thanks... that will work for now, however the link I sent out is the live docs link that Adobe Hard-Coded into their off-line copy of CF8 documentation, so they should not have changed it or should have at least set-up a redirect. Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be . Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5338 (20100803) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335940 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: (ot) Eclipse hangs on startup.
A few things to try: 1) Close all open projects (right-click on a project and select 'close') and restart. See if that makes it start fast. 2) Check the network settings. A long wait time might mean it's trying to do something networky, and it's waiting for a response. Like, for the help system, it starts a little local webserver, and maybe there's a firewall issue or something. 3) Check the log, and see what it's doing when starting up. I think you can even turn on more verbose logging of startup stuff, but google will know for sure. And, that's about all I got. As for CFEclipse, there should be a new release at the next full moon, I think. Pretty soon. If you'd like to help test the preview release, which should be working on Helios, the preview update site is: http://cfeclipse.org/update-preview Feel free to take it for a test drive and please let us know (on the cfeclipse mailing list, preferably, tho wherever is clever, really) if you run into any show-stopper type stuff. Blessed be! :Denny -- Judaism boasts of no exclusive revelation of eternal truths that are indispensable to salvation, of no revealed religion in the sense in which that term is usually understood. Moses Mendelssohn On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Eric Cobb wrote: Over the last couple of weeks I've noticed that my Eclipse seems to take a really long time to start up. It always hangs at the splash screen forever, then finally it starts loading. Once the loading bar appears, it only takes about 15-20 seconds to load. This morning I timed it and it stayed on the startup screen for almost 7 minutes before it started loading. Once it finally opens up, I can close it an reopen it and it takes less than a minute. But, that initial startup after I log in, reboot, etc.., always hangs at the splash screen for 4-7 minutes. I'm using Eclipse 3.5.2, 64 bit, on Windows 7 Professional 64 bit with 4GB of RAM. In an effort to fix the problem, I installed Java version 6, update 21. It just came out last week and is supposed to have some bug fixes aimed specifically at Eclipse. That didn't help anything. I also have Eclipse 3.5.2, 32 bit, on this machine and it takes just as long to start up. Just to see, I set up a fresh blank install of 3.5.2, 64 bit, and it came up with no problems. I've searched the interwebs trying to find a way to tweak my eclipse.ini settings, and so far I haven't been able to find anything that fixes this. I've even restored the eclipse.ini file back to the original and it's still slow. At first I thought it may be a plugin that was causing this, so I uninstalled all unnecessary plugins, but that didn't fix it. I even made sure that my 32 bit and 64 bit didn't have the same plugins installed, and they don't. The only core features they have installed in common are: -Eclipse Data Tools Platform -Eclipse Mylyn -Eclipse Modeling Project So, I'm guess that one of these is the culprit. I'm really not sure, though. Does anyone know if there is any way to tell what's causing Eclipse to hang at the splash screen for so long? Some way to get a behind the scenes look at what's going on? -- Thanks, Eric Cobb ECAR Technologies, LLC http://www.ecartech.com http://www.cfgears.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335941 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
CFC Query Question
Let's say I put a query like below in a CFC: cfquery name= news_menu datasource=#dsn# cachedwithin=#createTimeSpan (0,0,20,0)# SELECT cfif select_limit gt 0TOP #select_limit# /cfif safelink, news_id, headline, description, pub_year, pub_month, pub_day FROM tbl_news ORDER BY pub_year DESC, pub_month DESC, pub_day DESC, headline; /cfquery Sometimes I want a short menu so I set select_limit to a number to limit the query results. Sometimes I want a complete menu so I set select_limit to 0 to get all results. If this is in a CFC will it always work on each page correctly if they send different select_limit values from different pages? If so, does it still make since to cache the results? Thanks, Robert Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com/ http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be . Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335942 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
re: CFC Query Question
Well, that code will create a separate cache for each version of the variable query statement. Cf http://forums.devshed.com/coldfusion-development-84/cfml-cfquery-cachedwithi n-does-changing-order-by-create-new-query-680793.html In other words, I think it will work the way you expect. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335943 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CFC Query Question
It's testing as I expected. I'm trying to maximize the efficiency of my CFCs by writing more variable queries and caching those that have only a limited number of possible query parameters. Thanks Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be . Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged -Original Message- From: Jason Fisher [mailto:ja...@wanax.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 2:52 PM To: cf-talk Subject: re: CFC Query Question Well, that code will create a separate cache for each version of the variable query statement. Cf http://forums.devshed.com/coldfusion-development-84/cfml-cfquery-cachedwithi n-does-changing-order-by-create-new-query-680793.html In other words, I think it will work the way you expect. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335944 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CFC Query Question
Makes sense. Clearly, if you were testing for ID = '#myVar#', then the number of variances would make caching irrelevant, but it sounds like this case might be a good candidate. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335945 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
CF9 Developer on Windows 7 Home Premium?
I'm looking at buying a couple of laptops that will get some light development use. The trouble I am seeing is every laptop whose feature set I am interested in is running Win7 Home Premium. If I am running CF9 developer on them and would only be using the development web server, will CF9 run on it or will the installer kick me out when it sees the Win version I'd be running? -- -...@robertson-- Janitor, The Robertson Team mysecretbase.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335946 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF9 Developer on Windows 7 Home Premium?
I'm looking at buying a couple of laptops that will get some light development use. The trouble I am seeing is every laptop whose feature set I am interested in is running Win7 Home Premium. If I am running CF9 developer on them and would only be using the development web server, will CF9 run on it or will the installer kick me out when it sees the Win version I'd be running? CF 9 will run just fine on that, but if you later decide you want to upgrade to Professional or Ultimate, you can actually do that very easily online. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335947 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF9 Developer on Windows 7 Home Premium?
Beautiful. Thank you, Dave. You mean upgrade Windows, right? I'm still running all my office stuff on XP downgrades. Stayed clean away from Vista except for my home system which is running Vista 64 On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: I'm looking at buying a couple of laptops that will get some light development use. The trouble I am seeing is every laptop whose feature set I am interested in is running Win7 Home Premium. If I am running CF9 developer on them and would only be using the development web server, will CF9 run on it or will the installer kick me out when it sees the Win version I'd be running? CF 9 will run just fine on that, but if you later decide you want to upgrade to Professional or Ultimate, you can actually do that very easily online. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335948 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CF9 Developer on Windows 7 Home Premium?
I've run CF9 on Windows 7 with absolutely no issues at all. Paul Alkema T:@paulalkema -Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:websitema...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 3:43 PM To: cf-talk Subject: CF9 Developer on Windows 7 Home Premium? I'm looking at buying a couple of laptops that will get some light development use. The trouble I am seeing is every laptop whose feature set I am interested in is running Win7 Home Premium. If I am running CF9 developer on them and would only be using the development web server, will CF9 run on it or will the installer kick me out when it sees the Win version I'd be running? -- -...@robertson-- Janitor, The Robertson Team mysecretbase.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335949 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF9 Developer on Windows 7 Home Premium?
You mean upgrade Windows, right? Yes. I've bought several machines with Windows 7 Home Premium and upgraded them to Professional. It's been very smooth. I'm still running all my office stuff on XP downgrades. Stayed clean away from Vista except for my home system which is running Vista 64 I was one of those apparently few people who didn't absolutely hate Vista, but I really like Windows 7. I still have quite a few XP machines, but I'd strongly recommend 7 over XP for daily use. But in any case, Home Premium will run CF 9 just fine. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335950 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
SOT: Best CF development laptop
Sorry for the OT, I'm looking to buy a new laptop mostly CF 9 development with CF builder and Flash builder, MS-SQL, Oracle a few local web sites, SVN .I guess just the usual development stuff. I kind of narrowed my search to Sony Vaio F1290: * Intel® Core Quad i7-840QM processor (1.86GHz) * Microsoft Windows® 7 Professional * 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3-SDRAM-1333 * 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive [7200 rpm] * DVD +/- R DL / DVD +/- RW / DVD-RAM Drive *16.4 VAIO Premium Display (1920x1080) Full HD * NVIDIA® GeForce® 330M GPU (1GB VRAM) * Keyboard Backlight * Large Capacity Battery or ASUS G73JH-A1 - Intel Core i7-720QM 1.6GHz Quad Core, 17.3 FHD 1920x1080 LED, 8GB DDR3, 1TB (2x500GB) HDD, ATI RADEON HD 5870 1GB GDDR5, Blu-ray Combo, 802.11bgn, Gb LAN, Bluetooth, HDMI, Webcam, Card Reader, Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit What do you guys recommend? Thanks V ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335951 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: SOT: Best CF development laptop
I'm looking to buy a new laptop mostly CF 9 development with CF builder and Flash builder, MS-SQL, Oracle a few local web sites, SVN .I guess just the usual development stuff. I kind of narrowed my search to Sony Vaio F1290: * Intel® Core Quad i7-840QM processor (1.86GHz) * Microsoft Windows® 7 Professional * 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3-SDRAM-1333 * 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive [7200 rpm] * DVD +/- R DL / DVD +/- RW / DVD-RAM Drive *16.4 VAIO Premium Display (1920x1080) Full HD * NVIDIA® GeForce® 330M GPU (1GB VRAM) * Keyboard Backlight * Large Capacity Battery or ASUS G73JH-A1 - Intel Core i7-720QM 1.6GHz Quad Core, 17.3 FHD 1920x1080 LED, 8GB DDR3, 1TB (2x500GB) HDD, ATI RADEON HD 5870 1GB GDDR5, Blu-ray Combo, 802.11bgn, Gb LAN, Bluetooth, HDMI, Webcam, Card Reader, Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Both of those are more than adequate. Anything with 8 GB RAM is adequate (in fact, most developers don't even need that much). Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training cen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335952 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: SOT: Best CF development laptop
I'd lean towards the Sony if the price is comparable... but I would wipe the hard drive and re-install Windows7 clean from an original media disk, not from the Sony disks... Too much bloat ware. As a 3rd alternate I'd look at Lenovo (Formally IBM) I've been really happy with my ThinkPad, but it wasn't cheap... And don't settle for less than 8gbs of RAM. 64 bit software has a tendency to eat up RAM =] On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: I'm looking to buy a new laptop mostly CF 9 development with CF builder and Flash builder, MS-SQL, Oracle a few local web sites, SVN .I guess just the usual development stuff. I kind of narrowed my search to Sony Vaio F1290: * Intel® Core Quad i7-840QM processor (1.86GHz) * Microsoft Windows® 7 Professional * 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3-SDRAM-1333 * 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive [7200 rpm] * DVD +/- R DL / DVD +/- RW / DVD-RAM Drive *16.4 VAIO Premium Display (1920x1080) Full HD * NVIDIA® GeForce® 330M GPU (1GB VRAM) * Keyboard Backlight * Large Capacity Battery or ASUS G73JH-A1 - Intel Core i7-720QM 1.6GHz Quad Core, 17.3 FHD 1920x1080 LED, 8GB DDR3, 1TB (2x500GB) HDD, ATI RADEON HD 5870 1GB GDDR5, Blu-ray Combo, 802.11bgn, Gb LAN, Bluetooth, HDMI, Webcam, Card Reader, Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Both of those are more than adequate. Anything with 8 GB RAM is adequate (in fact, most developers don't even need that much). Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training cen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335953 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Best CF development laptop
Got this email notice form tigerdirect today...seems like a pretty good deal. It only ships with 4gig mem but will handle 8. And the price seems good at $899. Here are the basic specs (copied from webpage: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=6 304489sku=T71-15635SRCCODE=WEM2357BYcm_mmc=email-_-Main-_-WEM2357-_-tiger email) Display Type: LED backlight Screen Size: 15.6 Maximum Resolution: 1366 x 768 Memory Type: DDR3 Memory Size: 4GB Memory Speed: DDR3 1066 Maximum Memory Supported: 8GB Capacity: 500 GB Drive Types: Hard Drive Hard Drive Speed: 5400 RPM Processor Brand: Intel Processor Class: Core i7 Processor Type: Quad-Core Processor Speed: 1.60GHz Processor Number: i7-720QM Lifestyle: Entertainment Operating Systems: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit GPU/VPU: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5730 Video Memory: 1GB VRAM Only really bad thing is 100% (instead of 70%) of your hard earned dollars go to China. But that doesn't bother most people and most of the money goes there no matter the brand...all the parts are made there and most/all are assembled there. Mark ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335954 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: SOT: Best CF development laptop
Personally I would go with the ASUS Lappy if anything for the Blu-Ray drive and the HDMI out. I am a big fan of ASUS motherboards and if their Laptops are anything like their MB's then it will kick arse and take names. THe only thing I don't like about the ASUS is the weight and the size. 8lbs is a lot for a laptop IMO. G! On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Victor Moore victor.mo...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for the OT, I'm looking to buy a new laptop mostly CF 9 development with CF builder and Flash builder, MS-SQL, Oracle a few local web sites, SVN .I guess just the usual development stuff. I kind of narrowed my search to Sony Vaio F1290: * Intel® Core Quad i7-840QM processor (1.86GHz) * Microsoft Windows® 7 Professional * 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3-SDRAM-1333 * 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive [7200 rpm] * DVD +/- R DL / DVD +/- RW / DVD-RAM Drive *16.4 VAIO Premium Display (1920x1080) Full HD * NVIDIA® GeForce® 330M GPU (1GB VRAM) * Keyboard Backlight * Large Capacity Battery or ASUS G73JH-A1 - Intel Core i7-720QM 1.6GHz Quad Core, 17.3 FHD 1920x1080 LED, 8GB DDR3, 1TB (2x500GB) HDD, ATI RADEON HD 5870 1GB GDDR5, Blu-ray Combo, 802.11bgn, Gb LAN, Bluetooth, HDMI, Webcam, Card Reader, Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit What do you guys recommend? Thanks V ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335955 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: SOT: Best CF development laptop
Thank you guys. Informative as usual. Price wise they are very similar. Asus has Blu-Ray, bigger screen and hard drive but battery life sucks. Sony smaller screen and hard and no Blu-Ray drive (I can add one for 100 I think) but better CPU and much better battery. In the end I want one that's good quality and doesn't die after one year. @Dave u know the saying u can't be too slim or have too much memory :) I guess i will have to go with my instinct Thanks again Victor On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Gerald Guido gerald.gu...@gmail.com wrote: Personally I would go with the ASUS Lappy if anything for the Blu-Ray drive and the HDMI out. I am a big fan of ASUS motherboards and if their Laptops are anything like their MB's then it will kick arse and take names. THe only thing I don't like about the ASUS is the weight and the size. 8lbs is a lot for a laptop IMO. G! On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Victor Moore victor.mo...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for the OT, I'm looking to buy a new laptop mostly CF 9 development with CF builder and Flash builder, MS-SQL, Oracle a few local web sites, SVN .I guess just the usual development stuff. I kind of narrowed my search to Sony Vaio F1290: * Intel® Core Quad i7-840QM processor (1.86GHz) * Microsoft Windows® 7 Professional * 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3-SDRAM-1333 * 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive [7200 rpm] * DVD +/- R DL / DVD +/- RW / DVD-RAM Drive *16.4 VAIO Premium Display (1920x1080) Full HD * NVIDIA® GeForce® 330M GPU (1GB VRAM) * Keyboard Backlight * Large Capacity Battery or ASUS G73JH-A1 - Intel Core i7-720QM 1.6GHz Quad Core, 17.3 FHD 1920x1080 LED, 8GB DDR3, 1TB (2x500GB) HDD, ATI RADEON HD 5870 1GB GDDR5, Blu-ray Combo, 802.11bgn, Gb LAN, Bluetooth, HDMI, Webcam, Card Reader, Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit What do you guys recommend? Thanks V ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335956 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CF9 Developer on Windows 7 Home Premium?
As I understand it, when you upgrade from one version of Windows 7 to another, all it's really doing is unlocking features already on your machine. andy -Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:websitema...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 3:01 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CF9 Developer on Windows 7 Home Premium? Beautiful. Thank you, Dave. You mean upgrade Windows, right? I'm still running all my office stuff on XP downgrades. Stayed clean away from Vista except for my home system which is running Vista 64 On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: I'm looking at buying a couple of laptops that will get some light development use. The trouble I am seeing is every laptop whose feature set I am interested in is running Win7 Home Premium. If I am running CF9 developer on them and would only be using the development web server, will CF9 run on it or will the installer kick me out when it sees the Win version I'd be running? CF 9 will run just fine on that, but if you later decide you want to upgrade to Professional or Ultimate, you can actually do that very easily online. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335957 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: SOT: Best CF development laptop
Price wise they are very similar. Asus has Blu-Ray, bigger screen and hard drive but battery life sucks. Sony smaller screen and hard and no Blu-Ray drive (I can add one for 100 I think) but better CPU and much better battery. A lot of these things really depend on how you plan to use it. If you're getting a desktop replacement, you probably don't care about battery life. If you're not going to watch movies, you don't care about Blu-Ray, etc, etc. When I got my laptop (Dell Studio XPS 13) I had a very specific set of requirements, and that's what guided my purchase. I wanted something no larger than 13 (I have to schlep it around a lot), with at least 8 GB RAM, a SSD drive (fast, doesn't run as hot or use as much battery), and a webcam. There were only about 3 laptops around at the time that met those requirements, and this was the cheapest. In the end I want one that's good quality and doesn't die after one year. Overall I've been very happy with Sony hardware, but their quality all seems to be on the high end - if you buy a really expensive Sony, it'll generally have a noticeably better build quality than their lower-end stuff. That said, I have some Sonys that have been all around the world, had the crap kicked out of them, and still work just fine. I don't really have any experience with Acer hardware. @Dave u know the saying u can't be too slim or have too much memory :) Well, sure, if you're going to run a 64-bit OS. Otherwise, there's no need for more than 4GB. When I bought my laptop, about 18 months ago I guess, I specifically wanted one with 8GB RAM, and they were fairly rare at the time. But I wanted that primarily for running multiple VMs. I didn't really need that for CF development alone, where you might run CF, a database instance, an IDE and a browser. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335958 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF9 Developer on Windows 7 Home Premium?
As I understand it, when you upgrade from one version of Windows 7 to another, all it's really doing is unlocking features already on your machine. Yes, I think so. There really isn't that much difference: Professional can join Windows domains, Ultimate has a full-disk encryption option. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335959 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: SOT: Best CF development laptop
You might want to check out some of the deals they have at Tiger Direct and New Egg...you can save a lot of money that way. -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 11:10 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: SOT: Best CF development laptop Price wise they are very similar. Asus has Blu-Ray, bigger screen and hard drive but battery life sucks. Sony smaller screen and hard and no Blu-Ray drive (I can add one for 100 I think) but better CPU and much better battery. A lot of these things really depend on how you plan to use it. If you're getting a desktop replacement, you probably don't care about battery life. If you're not going to watch movies, you don't care about Blu-Ray, etc, etc. When I got my laptop (Dell Studio XPS 13) I had a very specific set of requirements, and that's what guided my purchase. I wanted something no larger than 13 (I have to schlep it around a lot), with at least 8 GB RAM, a SSD drive (fast, doesn't run as hot or use as much battery), and a webcam. There were only about 3 laptops around at the time that met those requirements, and this was the cheapest. In the end I want one that's good quality and doesn't die after one year. Overall I've been very happy with Sony hardware, but their quality all seems to be on the high end - if you buy a really expensive Sony, it'll generally have a noticeably better build quality than their lower-end stuff. That said, I have some Sonys that have been all around the world, had the crap kicked out of them, and still work just fine. I don't really have any experience with Acer hardware. @Dave u know the saying u can't be too slim or have too much memory :) Well, sure, if you're going to run a 64-bit OS. Otherwise, there's no need for more than 4GB. When I bought my laptop, about 18 months ago I guess, I specifically wanted one with 8GB RAM, and they were fairly rare at the time. But I wanted that primarily for running multiple VMs. I didn't really need that for CF development alone, where you might run CF, a database instance, an IDE and a browser. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335960 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: SOT: Best CF development laptop
Yes, it's a replacement for a desktop but will see some travel too. I will have a couple of VM' too and that's the reason I went with 8gb. and it' Asus not Acer :) @Alan I had before a ThinkPad and they are very reliable. Expensive, kind of spartan looking but they never die. Probably I will go with Sony. Still debating if I should go with Quad i7-740QM processor or Quad i7-840QM processor. Not sure if 200 difference is worth it. Thanks On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: Price wise they are very similar. Asus has Blu-Ray, bigger screen and hard drive but battery life sucks. Sony smaller screen and hard and no Blu-Ray drive (I can add one for 100 I think) but better CPU and much better battery. A lot of these things really depend on how you plan to use it. If you're getting a desktop replacement, you probably don't care about battery life. If you're not going to watch movies, you don't care about Blu-Ray, etc, etc. When I got my laptop (Dell Studio XPS 13) I had a very specific set of requirements, and that's what guided my purchase. I wanted something no larger than 13 (I have to schlep it around a lot), with at least 8 GB RAM, a SSD drive (fast, doesn't run as hot or use as much battery), and a webcam. There were only about 3 laptops around at the time that met those requirements, and this was the cheapest. In the end I want one that's good quality and doesn't die after one year. Overall I've been very happy with Sony hardware, but their quality all seems to be on the high end - if you buy a really expensive Sony, it'll generally have a noticeably better build quality than their lower-end stuff. That said, I have some Sonys that have been all around the world, had the crap kicked out of them, and still work just fine. I don't really have any experience with Acer hardware. @Dave u know the saying u can't be too slim or have too much memory :) Well, sure, if you're going to run a 64-bit OS. Otherwise, there's no need for more than 4GB. When I bought my laptop, about 18 months ago I guess, I specifically wanted one with 8GB RAM, and they were fairly rare at the time. But I wanted that primarily for running multiple VMs. I didn't really need that for CF development alone, where you might run CF, a database instance, an IDE and a browser. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335961 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: SOT: Best CF development laptop
I did look around and some time you can get 100 off. The advantage at the sony store is that it can be somewhat customized (including engraving) and the previous model F11 has a 200$ discount Thanks On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:14 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: You might want to check out some of the deals they have at Tiger Direct and New Egg...you can save a lot of money that way. -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 11:10 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: SOT: Best CF development laptop Price wise they are very similar. Asus has Blu-Ray, bigger screen and hard drive but battery life sucks. Sony smaller screen and hard and no Blu-Ray drive (I can add one for 100 I think) but better CPU and much better battery. A lot of these things really depend on how you plan to use it. If you're getting a desktop replacement, you probably don't care about battery life. If you're not going to watch movies, you don't care about Blu-Ray, etc, etc. When I got my laptop (Dell Studio XPS 13) I had a very specific set of requirements, and that's what guided my purchase. I wanted something no larger than 13 (I have to schlep it around a lot), with at least 8 GB RAM, a SSD drive (fast, doesn't run as hot or use as much battery), and a webcam. There were only about 3 laptops around at the time that met those requirements, and this was the cheapest. In the end I want one that's good quality and doesn't die after one year. Overall I've been very happy with Sony hardware, but their quality all seems to be on the high end - if you buy a really expensive Sony, it'll generally have a noticeably better build quality than their lower-end stuff. That said, I have some Sonys that have been all around the world, had the crap kicked out of them, and still work just fine. I don't really have any experience with Acer hardware. @Dave u know the saying u can't be too slim or have too much memory :) Well, sure, if you're going to run a 64-bit OS. Otherwise, there's no need for more than 4GB. When I bought my laptop, about 18 months ago I guess, I specifically wanted one with 8GB RAM, and they were fairly rare at the time. But I wanted that primarily for running multiple VMs. I didn't really need that for CF development alone, where you might run CF, a database instance, an IDE and a browser. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335962 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF9 Developer on Windows 7 Home Premium?
And full disk encryption is available for free via TrueCrypt as I write this from my laptop with a full disk encryption setup with Win 7 Home 64-bit. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 8:11 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: As I understand it, when you upgrade from one version of Windows 7 to another, all it's really doing is unlocking features already on your machine. Yes, I think so. There really isn't that much difference: Professional can join Windows domains, Ultimate has a full-disk encryption option. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335963 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
