Re: geocode database - world cities

[andy menych]

Have a look at http://worldcitiesdatabase.info .

For a fraction of what the competition charges ($4.99), you get a perfectly 
manageable database of world cities. It only has about 70,000 entries, which 
makes it ideal for multi-level location selector scripts. 

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Problem with pound signs

[Steven Durette]

Hi all, 

I've been given some code to fix that others have tried but had little luck. I 
believe I've found the major culprit, but I want to use regex to find it but 
I'm a little stumped. 
The errors are usually one of two things, either single pound signs in between 
cfoutputs (ie: font tag with color) or many places where the original 
programmers meant to use a variable but only put a pound sign on one side of 
the variable. 

Any ideas of the regex I should use?

Steve

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Re: CF vs. Java Web Developer

[Gerald Guido]

>>Laying down these sorts of generalised guidelines serves no purpose.

Inspiration rarely follows a 9 to 5 pattern. "Work" wants me to be in at 8.
I am in the zone and do my best work from ~2 pm 'till I hit the wall,
usually around midnight to 2-3 AM or so. The powers that be about know this
but they still want me in @ 8 Oh well.

G!

On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 10:10 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear <
jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk> wrote:

>
> Still working .. 3am .. and this is not uncommon ;)
>
> Laying down these sorts of generalised guidelines serves no purpose.
>
> Sure, keeping some sort of routine makes sense, but we all work with the
> routine that suits us.
>
> I agree with Sean's comments, too.  When working with a Canadian outfit
> getting into the office at 10am was perfectly acceptable, so was leaving at
> midnight.
>
> I would very occasionally see a developer in a suit and tie when visiting a
> customer's premises, the rest of the time it was jeans and t-shirts.
>
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Sean Corfield [mailto:seancorfi...@gmail.com]
> >>Sent: 24 June 2011 02:54
> >>To: cf-talk
> >>Subject: Re: CF vs. Java Web Developer
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:53 AM, Mark A. Kruger
> >> wrote:
> >>> Here are my tips? Go to bed at a decent hour. Get up and be
> >>online by 8:00.
>
>
>
> 

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RE: CF vs. Java Web Developer

[Jenny Gavin-Wear]

Still working .. 3am .. and this is not uncommon ;)

Laying down these sorts of generalised guidelines serves no purpose.

Sure, keeping some sort of routine makes sense, but we all work with the
routine that suits us.

I agree with Sean's comments, too.  When working with a Canadian outfit
getting into the office at 10am was perfectly acceptable, so was leaving at
midnight.

I would very occasionally see a developer in a suit and tie when visiting a
customer's premises, the rest of the time it was jeans and t-shirts.

>>-Original Message-
>>From: Sean Corfield [mailto:seancorfi...@gmail.com]
>>Sent: 24 June 2011 02:54
>>To: cf-talk
>>Subject: Re: CF vs. Java Web Developer
>>
>>
>>
>>On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:53 AM, Mark A. Kruger
>> wrote:
>>> Here are my tips? Go to bed at a decent hour. Get up and be
>>online by 8:00.



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Re: CF vs. Java Web Developer

[Sean Corfield]

On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Mark A. Kruger  wrote:
> FYI - have you checked out Sean's site? :D

For anyone who doesn't get the reference: http://worldsingles.com/ is
the umbrella brand and 16 of our properties are listed on the home
page - out of around 50 total properties. Most of those properties are
running on our "legacy" platform (ColdFusion 8, IIS, Windows, SQL
Server) but some sites are on our new platform (Railo, ColdBox,
Reactor, ColdSpring, Apache, Tomcat, Linux, MySQL - and Scala and
Clojure and, soon, MongoDB - and, yes, Reactor is gradually going
away, as will ColdBox at some point).
-- 
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An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/
World Singles, LLC. -- http://worldsingles.com/
Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://www.getrailo.com/

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(ot) Looking for a good Click-to-Call provider

[Robert Rhodes]

Hello All.  I am looking for good Click-to-Call provider with a cf-friendly
web service to consume.  Any recommendations?

RR


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Re: CF vs. Java Web Developer

[Sean Corfield]

On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Russ Michaels  wrote:
> But as Jacob mentioned, if your married the wife does tend to think that if
> your home your not really working, so you can do chores for her.

That depends on who you married... ;)
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Re: CF vs. Java Web Developer

[Sean Corfield]

On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:53 AM, Mark A. Kruger  wrote:
> Here are my tips? Go to bed at a decent hour. Get up and be online by 8:00.
> Dress in something decent that makes you feel professional. Keep regular
> office hours.

You're clearly not familiar with Californian work practices :)

At Macromedia, almost no one was at their desk before 10am (but yes,
they stayed later), and almost everyone wore jeans and T shirts. I
follow the same practice at home :)
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Re: CF vs. Java Web Developer

[Sean Corfield]

On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Russ Michaels  wrote:
> LOL, well unless u have stats it is nothing more than opinion, but common
> sense tells you that distractions stop you form working effectively.

There are lots of distractions in an office too.

> And the only way to avoid those distractions is to be away from them.

There are plenty of ways of dealing with distractions...
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Re: CF vs. Java Web Developer

[Sean Corfield]

On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 4:34 AM, Russ Michaels  wrote:
> working from home doesn't work for a lot of people though, there are too
> many distractions

There are too many distractions _for you_ but WFH works very well for
a lot of organizations. World Singles, for example, is completely
distributed - management, sales & marketing, customer service,
engineering - everyone works from home. There are certainly some
_people_ for which WFH doesn't work :)
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Re: onSessionEnd not working as expected

[Gerald Weir]

Dan,
Thanks (belatedly) this worked.
Jerry 

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Check for and removing some cookiees

[Gerald Weir]

Hello All,

I think this would be easy but seems not.  We have a main site at 
www.oursite.com and then we have 2 subdomains.  We'll call them:  
second.oursite.com and third.oursite.com.

A person visits our main site at www.oursite.com and we set these two cookies:




And then the user goes to one of the subdomains - second.oursite.com. 

How do I remove (expire) that TestWWW cookie from the subdomain login page?  
From the login page of the subdomain second.oursite.com:

  does not return as True even though I 
see that it does exist.

In Firebug I see that the TestWWW cookie domain appears as:  www.oursite.com
and, the userid cookie is:  .oursite.com

Shouldn't I be able to remove that TestWWW cookie since the user now at 
second.oursite.com?

Hope that makes sense.

Jerry


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Re: QoQ in Railo

[Brian Cain]

Thanks,  I will try there too.

On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Che Vilnonis  wrote:

>
> Have you tried the Railo Group? It's worked for me in the past.
> http://groups.google.com/group/railo?lnk=srg
>
> ~Che
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Brian Cain [mailto:bcc9...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 1:13 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: QoQ in Railo
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> I am attempting to migrate an exiting CF site from a server running CFMX7
> to
> Railo.
>
> For the most part things are working well, but I have run into 2 problems.
>
> The first problem is when attempting to do a query of a query.  I get a
> "variable [revenuehistory] doesn't exist" error.
>
>  SELECT A BUNCH
> OF STUFF FROM MULTIPLE DATABASES AND JOIN ALL TOGETHER USING A BUNCH OF
> UNIONS FOR FURTHER PROCESSING IN CF 
>
>  SELECT DISTINCT PYear FROM
> RevenueHistory ORDER BY PYear DESC  This is where the error
> comes.
> This works just fine in CFMX7.
>
> I was wondering of anyone has heard of any problems with this type of
> thing.
>
> I also am having trouble with links that use "/" in the query string to
> pass
> variables used with a very old version of Fusebox's formAttributes2URL
> custom tag.
>
>
> http://local.careerspecific.com/jobs.cfm/SiteID/1/CatID/881/Engineering_Jobs
> .htm
>
> A link like the one above gives me a 404 error.  Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> Brian Cain
>
>
>
> 

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RE: QoQ in Railo

[Che Vilnonis]

Have you tried the Railo Group? It's worked for me in the past.
http://groups.google.com/group/railo?lnk=srg

~Che 

-Original Message-
From: Brian Cain [mailto:bcc9...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 1:13 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: QoQ in Railo


Hello all,

I am attempting to migrate an exiting CF site from a server running CFMX7 to
Railo.

For the most part things are working well, but I have run into 2 problems.

The first problem is when attempting to do a query of a query.  I get a
"variable [revenuehistory] doesn't exist" error.

 SELECT A BUNCH
OF STUFF FROM MULTIPLE DATABASES AND JOIN ALL TOGETHER USING A BUNCH OF
UNIONS FOR FURTHER PROCESSING IN CF 

 SELECT DISTINCT PYear FROM
RevenueHistory ORDER BY PYear DESC  This is where the error comes.
This works just fine in CFMX7.

I was wondering of anyone has heard of any problems with this type of thing.

I also am having trouble with links that use "/" in the query string to pass
variables used with a very old version of Fusebox's formAttributes2URL
custom tag.

http://local.careerspecific.com/jobs.cfm/SiteID/1/CatID/881/Engineering_Jobs
.htm

A link like the one above gives me a 404 error.  Any ideas?

Thanks,
Brian Cain 



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QoQ in Railo

[Brian Cain]

Hello all,

I am attempting to migrate an exiting CF site from a server running CFMX7 to 
Railo.

For the most part things are working well, but I have run into 2 problems.

The first problem is when attempting to do a query of a query.  I get a 
"variable [revenuehistory] doesn't exist" error.


SELECT A BUNCH OF STUFF FROM MULTIPLE DATABASES AND JOIN ALL TOGETHER USING A 
BUNCH OF UNIONS FOR FURTHER PROCESSING IN CF



SELECT DISTINCT PYear FROM RevenueHistory ORDER BY PYear DESC

This is where the error comes.  This works just fine in CFMX7.

I was wondering of anyone has heard of any problems with this type of thing.

I also am having trouble with links that use "/" in the query string to pass 
variables used with a very old version of Fusebox's formAttributes2URL custom 
tag.

http://local.careerspecific.com/jobs.cfm/SiteID/1/CatID/881/Engineering_Jobs.htm

A link like the one above gives me a 404 error.  Any ideas?

Thanks,
Brian Cain 

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Re: CF vs. Java Web Developer

[Russ Michaels]

sorry DOH!!! I lost track of which list I was replying to, too many threads
on the go at the same time heh
So yes potential employers, remote working does work well for some people,
everyone's situation is different, as is their ability to be organised, self
disciplined and hard working.

What I would say is that there is a pretty easy way to dispel any negative
feeling an employer may have, simply offer to be monitored to perform time
tracking. If you are not doing what you say you are doing then you have
nothing to hide.
Checkout http://www.paymo.biz/?ref=LB1IETWkZblq

They have 2 very handy tools
A time tracker widget which allows you to record your time spent on
individual tasks/jobs
And another tool called PaymoPlus, which you basically keep running all day
and it tracks how long you spend using each app/window so you can then run
off a report at the end of the day and link each app usage to a job/task. It
is not a big brother tool, so no-one is watching your activity, it is
managed by you.
http://www.paymo.biz/blog/paymo-plus-beta.html?ref=LB1IETWkZblq

Russ

On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Wil Genovese  wrote:

>
> Russ - you must be talking about that "other list" - This is CFTALK. :)
>
>
> Wil Genovese
> Sr. Web Application Developer/
> Systems Administrator
> CF Webtools
> www.cfwebtools.com
>
> wilg...@trunkful.com
> www.trunkful.com
>
> On Jun 23, 2011, at 10:48 AM, Russ Michaels wrote:
>
> >
> > LOL, I think your being a bit paranoid there John, this is a private list
> > remember,invite only :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 4:40 PM, John M Bliss 
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Again, just to be safe, "Dear future employer, Russ is talking about
> >> himself
> >> / some people. Many people will not have these problems so please *do*
> >> consider hiring telecommuters."
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Russ Michaels 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Moving to an office also helped me stop smoking. When at home I would
> go
> >>> downstairs for a smoke whenever I felt like it, at the REAL office I
> >> simply
> >>> didn't bother.
> >>> I worked from home for many years and it did work well, but in the end
> I
> >>> became complacent and bored, I think due to the fact that work and home
> >>> were
> >>> the same thing and it felt like I was at work 24/7.
> >>> It really does help to be able to separate work from home life, having
> a
> >>> separate room as an office helps, as long as when you close the door
> work
> >>> is
> >>> over. For me it is never over as running a hosting co means  I am doing
> >>> support as long as I am awake, but I guess for people that can get away
> >>> with
> >>> 9-5 it is slightly different.
> >>>
> >>> But as Jacob mentioned, if your married the wife does tend to think
> that
> >> if
> >>> your home your not really working, so you can do chores for her.
> >>>
> >>> Russ
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: CF vs. Java Web Developer

[Wil Genovese]

Russ - you must be talking about that "other list" - This is CFTALK. :)


Wil Genovese
Sr. Web Application Developer/
Systems Administrator
CF Webtools
www.cfwebtools.com

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On Jun 23, 2011, at 10:48 AM, Russ Michaels wrote:

> 
> LOL, I think your being a bit paranoid there John, this is a private list
> remember,invite only :-)
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 4:40 PM, John M Bliss  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Again, just to be safe, "Dear future employer, Russ is talking about
>> himself
>> / some people. Many people will not have these problems so please *do*
>> consider hiring telecommuters."
>> 
>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Russ Michaels 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Moving to an office also helped me stop smoking. When at home I would go
>>> downstairs for a smoke whenever I felt like it, at the REAL office I
>> simply
>>> didn't bother.
>>> I worked from home for many years and it did work well, but in the end I
>>> became complacent and bored, I think due to the fact that work and home
>>> were
>>> the same thing and it felt like I was at work 24/7.
>>> It really does help to be able to separate work from home life, having a
>>> separate room as an office helps, as long as when you close the door work
>>> is
>>> over. For me it is never over as running a hosting co means  I am doing
>>> support as long as I am awake, but I guess for people that can get away
>>> with
>>> 9-5 it is slightly different.
>>> 
>>> But as Jacob mentioned, if your married the wife does tend to think that
>> if
>>> your home your not really working, so you can do chores for her.
>>> 
>>> Russ
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

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RE: CF vs. Java Web Developer

[Mark A. Kruger]

Good point MJ. I have some exceptionally productive developers who are
working from home - largely single. I'm betting they would agree with you.
FYI - have you checked out Sean's site? :D

-Original Message-
From: Mary Jo Sminkey [mailto:mary...@cfwebstore.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 10:01 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF vs. Java Web Developer


>I have been far more productive since I moved out of the house and into a
>proper office, as has my wife (who works for me).
>

And for many of us, the opposite is the case. Being single and without kids,
I actually have far fewer distractions at home than at work where there are
often people chatting and talking on the phone, etc. around me. I also have
developed some chronic back problems from sitting in a chair all day so in
an office situation, have to get up and stretch on a regular basis, whereas
at home I have more options for positions to work from and can work longer
stretches without having to interrupt my work. 

Everyone's situation is unique and I think it's great that some employers
realize this and are bending on the telecommuting issue. 


MJS




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Re: CF vs. Java Web Developer

[Jason Durham]

This is a pretty interesting and, in some cases, comical discussion.  I
LOL'd when I read working in an office helped cure nicotine addiction.  It
sounds funny to hear it... but I *get* where you're coming from. :)

Like Mary Jo, I find that working in an office causes many more distractions
for me.  As much as I wanted to keep my door closed, my headphones on and my
keyboard rattling... the bosses frequently couldn't resist interrupting me
for something that was ultimately unimportant.


Jason Durham


On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 10:40 AM, John M Bliss  wrote:

>
> Again, just to be safe, "Dear future employer, Russ is talking about
> himself
> / some people. Many people will not have these problems so please *do*
> consider hiring telecommuters."
>
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Russ Michaels 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Moving to an office also helped me stop smoking. When at home I would go
> > downstairs for a smoke whenever I felt like it, at the REAL office I
> simply
> > didn't bother.
> > I worked from home for many years and it did work well, but in the end I
> > became complacent and bored, I think due to the fact that work and home
> > were
> > the same thing and it felt like I was at work 24/7.
> > It really does help to be able to separate work from home life, having a
> > separate room as an office helps, as long as when you close the door work
> > is
> > over. For me it is never over as running a hosting co means  I am doing
> > support as long as I am awake, but I guess for people that can get away
> > with
> > 9-5 it is slightly different.
> >
> > But as Jacob mentioned, if your married the wife does tend to think that
> if
> > your home your not really working, so you can do chores for her.
> >
> > Russ
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: CF vs. Java Web Developer

[Russ Michaels]

LOL, I think your being a bit paranoid there John, this is a private list
remember,invite only :-)



On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 4:40 PM, John M Bliss  wrote:

>
> Again, just to be safe, "Dear future employer, Russ is talking about
> himself
> / some people. Many people will not have these problems so please *do*
> consider hiring telecommuters."
>
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Russ Michaels 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Moving to an office also helped me stop smoking. When at home I would go
> > downstairs for a smoke whenever I felt like it, at the REAL office I
> simply
> > didn't bother.
> > I worked from home for many years and it did work well, but in the end I
> > became complacent and bored, I think due to the fact that work and home
> > were
> > the same thing and it felt like I was at work 24/7.
> > It really does help to be able to separate work from home life, having a
> > separate room as an office helps, as long as when you close the door work
> > is
> > over. For me it is never over as running a hosting co means  I am doing
> > support as long as I am awake, but I guess for people that can get away
> > with
> > 9-5 it is slightly different.
> >
> > But as Jacob mentioned, if your married the wife does tend to think that
> if
> > your home your not really working, so you can do chores for her.
> >
> > Russ
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: application.cfm

[Russ Michaels]

wow this has dragged on a bit.

I think perhaps the point is being missed, so let me have a go for you.

The pdf file is never normally  executed, so therefore you believe it should
never be compiled either, which is a correct assumption if you are just
delivering the file with with CFCONTENT, as it should never be touched with
the cfcompiler.
However i'm sure you said earlier that the reason for the problem was
because someone was directly trying to access the file, in which case CF
will of course try to compile and execute it as this is how cf works, and
this is the only reason you have not had this problem before is because
no-one has previously tried to link to the .pdf.cfm file.

As Andrew has explained to you, JRUN will try to compile all the files
within a request first before it executes anything, as it cannot execute
CFML, only class files, regardless of whether the application.cfm is
executed first or not.

So the only way to avoid this is to make sure the .pdf.cfm file cannot be
linked to directly, and you have been given several ways to achieve this.

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Re: CF vs. Java Web Developer

[John M Bliss]

Again, just to be safe, "Dear future employer, Russ is talking about himself
/ some people. Many people will not have these problems so please *do*
consider hiring telecommuters."

On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Russ Michaels  wrote:

>
> Moving to an office also helped me stop smoking. When at home I would go
> downstairs for a smoke whenever I felt like it, at the REAL office I simply
> didn't bother.
> I worked from home for many years and it did work well, but in the end I
> became complacent and bored, I think due to the fact that work and home
> were
> the same thing and it felt like I was at work 24/7.
> It really does help to be able to separate work from home life, having a
> separate room as an office helps, as long as when you close the door work
> is
> over. For me it is never over as running a hosting co means  I am doing
> support as long as I am awake, but I guess for people that can get away
> with
> 9-5 it is slightly different.
>
> But as Jacob mentioned, if your married the wife does tend to think that if
> your home your not really working, so you can do chores for her.
>
> Russ
>
>
> 

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Re: application.cfm

[Claude Schnéegans]

 >>My guess is that the compiler takes lots of extra time and resources, so it 
 >>does all its work before getting into the execution process.

May be, however it will also compile some files for nothing, ie: included files 
actually not included at execution... which represents an extra overhead.
There is even a drawback that can even be condidered as a bug (don't know if it 
is still there in CF 9) : duplicate functions defined in two diferent includes 
although only one template is included at execution.

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Re: CF vs. Java Web Developer

[Russ Michaels]

Moving to an office also helped me stop smoking. When at home I would go
downstairs for a smoke whenever I felt like it, at the REAL office I simply
didn't bother.
I worked from home for many years and it did work well, but in the end I
became complacent and bored, I think due to the fact that work and home were
the same thing and it felt like I was at work 24/7.
It really does help to be able to separate work from home life, having a
separate room as an office helps, as long as when you close the door work is
over. For me it is never over as running a hosting co means  I am doing
support as long as I am awake, but I guess for people that can get away with
9-5 it is slightly different.

But as Jacob mentioned, if your married the wife does tend to think that if
your home your not really working, so you can do chores for her.

Russ


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RE: application.cfm

[DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT)]

I believe you are correct that the answer is no and that process seems 
perfectly logical and correct.

Here is how I see the process running... By the way this is not actual 
knowledge of the process, but how I've always assumed that the process occurred.

1) Request is received by web server and is passed to cf.
2) CF sees which page it needs and checks to see if there is a compiled version 
of the template in memory or a class file on disk.
3) If there is, happily run the compiled byte code in the appropriate order. 
!
4) If not, compile the template. If that template references any other 
templates check each of those for compiled versions, if not then compile those 
as well.
5) Process the now compiled files in the appropriate order.

The compiler and the executor are two different processes in CF. My guess is 
that the compiler takes lots of extra time and resources, so it does all its 
work before getting into the execution process.

However like I said before I don't know any of this for sure, it's just how I 
understand the process.

All that being said, unless there is a real need to futz with extensions, all 
extensions should match their filetype. PDF should be .pdf, Excel should be 
.xls, etc. In general it makes life a lot easier.

Steve


My question was "is it possible to have CF compile a template requested in the 
url only if it is executed", so far the answer is no.


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Re: CF vs. Java Web Developer

[Mary Jo Sminkey]

>I have been far more productive since I moved out of the house and into a
>proper office, as has my wife (who works for me).
>

And for many of us, the opposite is the case. Being single and without kids, I 
actually have far fewer distractions at home than at work where there are often 
people chatting and talking on the phone, etc. around me. I also have developed 
some chronic back problems from sitting in a chair all day so in an office 
situation, have to get up and stretch on a regular basis, whereas at home I 
have more options for positions to work from and can work longer stretches 
without having to interrupt my work. 

Everyone's situation is unique and I think it's great that some employers 
realize this and are bending on the telecommuting issue. 


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Re: Inserting data using QODBC

[te...@it-werks.com te...@it-werks.com]

I guess I need to first ask "Is anyone on this list using the QODBC, odbc 
driver for Quickbooks?", before asking for help.

Terry 

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RE: CF vs. Java Web Developer

[Andrew Scott]

Hate to say it, but with technology today you have many types of hardware
and software that can help you run a virtual office if you like. The only
thing that you have to be aware off is if you are disciplined enough to be
able to do it?


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> -Original Message-
> From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com]
> Sent: Thursday, 23 June 2011 11:46 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: RE: CF vs. Java Web Developer
> 
> 
> Exactly.
> 
> "Honey, since you are going to be home today can you  all the chores your spouse wants you to do>?"
> 
> Plus, sometimes there are situation in which one-on-one meetings are
> mandatory. When a project is falling through the cracks and about to crash
> and burn, its probably best to round up the troops in person. At least in
my
> experience.
> 


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Re: application.cfm

[Claude Schnéegans]

 >>I think you don't understand,

I think you don't understand that I perfectly understand what's hapening:
Although I assumed the template (pdf file) should not be compiled since never 
executed,
it IS compiled. This causes the syntax error and stops execution.

 >>You are not taking into consideration
that the PDF is the cause of this error

I know perfectly that the pdf is causing the error. I told you this is because 
it contains a string like "http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
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RE: application.cfm

[Andrew Scott]

So what you are now saying is that your method will not work, and you have
been lucky to this date to not run into it.

Until we see the code that delivers the PDF, you have to look at what is
causing the compile error. It has nothing to do with when one is compiled or
not, or what order it is compiled in. ColdFusion will always compile
application.cfm/application.cfc and then the template you are trying to run,
and onRequestEnd.cfm if you have it. It can't do it any other way, because
it has to know what variables might be defined in the application.cfm.

The problem that you can't comprehend is that you are wrong.

Like I said in another post, I give up trying to help you now. You have been
told to look at what is causing the error, the error is the PDF. You have
admitted that another PDF will work fine, so what makes your template and
this PDF crash with an excpetion, and stop compiling the code?

Now I know for a fact that Application.cfc/Application.cfm is the first
thing in the chain, it has to be executed before the template you are
calling, because if it didn't you can't access those variables that you
define in there, now can you?


Regards,
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> -Original Message-
> From: Claude Schnéegans  [mailto:=?ISO-
> 8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans  1?Q?ue.com=3E?=]
> Sent: Thursday, 23 June 2011 11:50 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: application.cfm
> 
> 
>  >>Now if you are 100% confident that your PDF is being delivered by the
> cfcontent tag, then it sounds like you may have come across a bug.
> 
> No, the pdf is not delivered in case of an error, since it is a compile
error, no
> code is executed.
> For years I've been using this trick, and no file even contained any
occurrence
> of the string " Note that any file containing anything except " compiler with no problem. It was the case for years.
> 
> And it is not a bug in CF if this is what you mean, is is just the way it
works.
> As I said, it could have been
> 1. compile application.cfm
> 2. execute application.cfm... and eventually abort here.
> 3. compile the requested template
> 4. execute it
> 
> It is rather
> 1. compile application.cfm AND the requested template 2. execute
> application.cfm... and eventually abort here.
> 4. execute the requested template
> 
> There may be a good reason I don't know to do things in that order, but it
is
> certaily not pure logic.
> 
> 
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RE: application.cfm

[Andrew Scott]

Sorry I am bowing out now, you have a pre-conceived notion that it is to do
with the compilation of the template. You are not taking into consideration
that the PDF is the cause of this error, by your own admission and it has
nothing to do with where you are thinking it is, until you look away from
what you are thinking and go with what everyone has told you, will you be
able to fix this.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Claude Schnéegans  [mailto:=?ISO-
> 8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans  1?Q?ue.com=3E?=]
> Sent: Thursday, 23 June 2011 11:41 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: application.cfm
> 
> 
>  >>I will ask another question, is this application.cfm in the directory
of the
> template in question,
> 
> Yes, of course, and it include higher lever application.cfm
> 
>  >>But you really need to work out why it is trying to compile the PDF as
a
> CFML template,
> 
> Again, since application.cfm is to be executed prior the template
specified in
> the url, and since the code in the application.cfm could redirect the
request
> to another template, or simply abort the request, I thought the requested
> template would be compiled only after application.cfm execution and only
if
> it was to be actually executed.
> This would have been logical after all, but it is not the way it works:
both
> application.cfm AND the template are compiled first, THEN application.cfm
is
> executed.
> It could have been that application is compiled and executed FIRST, then
the
> template is compiled and executed if application passes control to it.
> Since my application.cfm always terminates on a CFABORT, the requested
> template is NEVER executed, and there is no reason it should be compiled.
> 


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RE: application.cfm

[Andrew Scott]

I think you don't understand, CF will try to compile the templates before
execution, provided there are no compile time errors. If there is it will
abort compiling the templates. And I believe and although I am not 100% sure
you will find that all files in the execution of that request are removed,
which is why you might be thinking what you are thinking.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Claude Schnéegans  [mailto:=?ISO-
> 8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans  1?Q?ue.com=3E?=]
> Sent: Thursday, 23 June 2011 11:41 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: application.cfm
> 
> 
>  >>I will ask another question, is this application.cfm in the directory
of the
> template in question,
> 
> Yes, of course, and it include higher lever application.cfm
> 
>  >>But you really need to work out why it is trying to compile the PDF as
a
> CFML template,
> 
> Again, since application.cfm is to be executed prior the template
specified in
> the url, and since the code in the application.cfm could redirect the
request
> to another template, or simply abort the request, I thought the requested
> template would be compiled only after application.cfm execution and only
if
> it was to be actually executed.
> This would have been logical after all, but it is not the way it works:
both
> application.cfm AND the template are compiled first, THEN application.cfm
is
> executed.
> It could have been that application is compiled and executed FIRST, then
the
> template is compiled and executed if application passes control to it.
> Since my application.cfm always terminates on a CFABORT, the requested
> template is NEVER executed, and there is no reason it should be compiled.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: application.cfm

[Roger Austin]

> This is the first time it happens in about 10 years I've bee using this 
> method.
> I thought the template would never be compiled because of CFABORT in 
> application.cfm, now I see it is not the case.

Since the problem has happened once in 10 years, I would try to open the PDF in 
Acrobat Pro 
and do a Save As while reducing the size or updating some of the tags. See if 
you can get the 
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Re: CF vs. Java Web Developer

[John M Bliss]

> "Honey, since you are going to be home today can you ?"

I get this all the time. My wife spends 1 hr/day commuting and, for example,
likes cooking less than me. *However*, we both know that I *will* spend at
*least* 40 hrs/week working (usually more) and will have teleconferences,
etc.  Also, because I'm sysadmin and DBA, I am more-or-less on-call 24x7x365
via closest high-speed 'net access or 3/4G.  When we're on "vacation," I
almost always have my laptop close by and now have a phone that allows for
tethering.

Bottom line: either you're effective or you're not effective.  Some people
will never be effective telecommuting.  Many will.

On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Jacob  wrote:

>
> Exactly.
>
> "Honey, since you are going to be home today can you  with
> all the chores your spouse wants you to do>?"
>
> Plus, sometimes there are situation in which one-on-one meetings are
> mandatory. When a project is falling through the cracks and about to crash
> and burn, its probably best to round up the troops in person. At least in
> my
> experience.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk]
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 4:34 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: CF vs. Java Web Developer
>
>
> working from home doesn't work for a lot of people though, there are too
> many distractions, tv, food, wife or g/f, even more so if you have small
> kids screaming round the house all day or if you do not have a separate
> room
> to use as an office.
> I have been far more productive since I moved out of the house and into a
> proper office, as has my wife (who works for me).
>
> Russ
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 12:13 PM, John M Bliss 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > +1 on everything said thus far re: telecommute. My company has < 10
> > employees, no office, and we're spread out over four states. We use
> > some tools already mentioned plus GoToMeeting.
> >
> > --
> > John Bliss - http://about.me/jbliss
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 2:20 AM, Sean Corfield  > >wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:15 AM, Mark A. Kruger
> > > 
> > > wrote:
> > > > When we mad telecommuting available and stopped worrying about
> > relocation
> > > > things got a lot easier for us.
> > >
> > > I'll +100 on this.
> > >
> > > At Broadchoice, we figured out who we'd like to work for us and
> > > conducted screening interviews, then flew in our top picks (from the
> > > list of candidates who had expressed interest) for a two-day
> > > mini-conference with the full company team - and we made the
> > > candidates present to the team! We had no plans to make anyone
> > > relocate - we already let people telecommute a few days a week even
> > > if they lived locally.
> > >
> > > At World Singles, most of the company were telecommuting when I
> > > joined because we're a (small) global company. We quickly gave up
> > > the office in So. Cal. and let everyone work from home full time.
> > > Now, when we hire someone, location is simply not an issue: if
> > > you're right for us, we'll hire you (and you get to work in PJs or
> > > whatever you want). We plan to have an all-hands company meeting
> > > once or twice a year and fly everyone in for the event, but we rely
> > > on Yammer! and Unfuddle / git and mailing lists and Skype and iChat
> > > and so on. We can pair remotely as engineers whenever we want - not
> > > as good as pairing face-to-face but it works well enough.
> > >
> > > > We play to these strengths whenever we can. We provide a model
> > > > that is focused on the work performed not hours at a desk. We make
> > > > their
> > families
> > > > important to us. We provide them with a steady flow of positive
> > > > reinforcement. Out of a staff of 18 nearly half are now remotely
> > working
> > > in
> > > > various parts of the country.
> > >
> > > +1 on all of that.
> > >
> > > > 1) How do you develop community and facilitate knowledge sharing
> > > > with a remote staff.
> > >
> > > Regular interaction via Skype, mailing lists, wikis.
> > >
> > > > 2) How do you manage meetings and stakeholder interaction.
> > >
> > > Keep them to a minimum - and use video conference calls when you do
> > > them
> > at
> > > all.
> > >
> > > > 3) What technology is the most helpful with a remote staff.
> > >
> > > Keep all your resources in the cloud - use a hosted bug tracker /
> > > version control system. Use IM a LOT. Use Skype (with video). Use
> > > iChat (chat, audio, video, screen sharing - Mac rocks!).
> > >
> > > > 4) How do you overcome the hesitancy of potential customers who
> > > > are uncomfortable with a remote staff.
> > >
> > > Seriously? You still encounter this? I've worked remotely for
> > > customers for years - I've *never* seen resistance to this.
> > > --
> > > Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN
> > > An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ World Singles, LLC. --
> > > http://worldsingles.com/ Railo Technologies, Inc. --
> > > http://www.getrailo.com/
> > >
> > > "Perfection is th

RE: CF vs. Java Web Developer

[Mark A. Kruger]

In some ways there's a difference between telecommuting and working from
home - although most telecommuters do indeed work from home. When I started
CF Webtools all my customers were "remote" - so I qualified as a
telecommuter... at least I was not an "on-site" worker. But I bartered
office space from someone and set up a phone and I kept regular office
hours. 

Here are my tips? Go to bed at a decent hour. Get up and be online by 8:00.
Dress in something decent that makes you feel professional. Keep regular
office hours. Get regular exercise. If these tips sound familiar they
should. Most of the things that apply to the regular work place can apply to
home as well. If you choose to apply them you will generally reap the
rewards. But it takes practice and discipline. 

Regarding Sean's comments that he doesn't run into resistance from customers
regarding remote workers any more... we are bidding a variety of vertical
spaces, financial, insurance, medical. Many corporate cultures do indeed
have a hard time with this issue. You might call them "late adapters". So we
strive to demonstrate our cohesion in spite of our disparate locations. But
it is an obstacle at times. I would agree that it's a greatly diminished
obstacle these days though.

-Mark




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Re: application.cfm

[Claude Schnéegans]

 >>Now if you are 100% confident that your PDF is being delivered by the
cfcontent tag, then it sounds like you may have come across a bug.

No, the pdf is not delivered in case of an error, since it is a compile error, 
no code is executed.
For years I've been using this trick, and no file even contained any occurrence 
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RE: CF vs. Java Web Developer

[Jacob]

Exactly.

"Honey, since you are going to be home today can you ?"

Plus, sometimes there are situation in which one-on-one meetings are
mandatory. When a project is falling through the cracks and about to crash
and burn, its probably best to round up the troops in person. At least in my
experience.

-Original Message-
From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 4:34 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF vs. Java Web Developer


working from home doesn't work for a lot of people though, there are too
many distractions, tv, food, wife or g/f, even more so if you have small
kids screaming round the house all day or if you do not have a separate room
to use as an office.
I have been far more productive since I moved out of the house and into a
proper office, as has my wife (who works for me).

Russ


On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 12:13 PM, John M Bliss  wrote:

>
> +1 on everything said thus far re: telecommute. My company has < 10
> employees, no office, and we're spread out over four states. We use 
> some tools already mentioned plus GoToMeeting.
>
> --
> John Bliss - http://about.me/jbliss
>
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 2:20 AM, Sean Corfield  >wrote:
>
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:15 AM, Mark A. Kruger 
> > 
> > wrote:
> > > When we mad telecommuting available and stopped worrying about
> relocation
> > > things got a lot easier for us.
> >
> > I'll +100 on this.
> >
> > At Broadchoice, we figured out who we'd like to work for us and 
> > conducted screening interviews, then flew in our top picks (from the 
> > list of candidates who had expressed interest) for a two-day 
> > mini-conference with the full company team - and we made the 
> > candidates present to the team! We had no plans to make anyone 
> > relocate - we already let people telecommute a few days a week even 
> > if they lived locally.
> >
> > At World Singles, most of the company were telecommuting when I 
> > joined because we're a (small) global company. We quickly gave up 
> > the office in So. Cal. and let everyone work from home full time. 
> > Now, when we hire someone, location is simply not an issue: if 
> > you're right for us, we'll hire you (and you get to work in PJs or 
> > whatever you want). We plan to have an all-hands company meeting 
> > once or twice a year and fly everyone in for the event, but we rely 
> > on Yammer! and Unfuddle / git and mailing lists and Skype and iChat 
> > and so on. We can pair remotely as engineers whenever we want - not 
> > as good as pairing face-to-face but it works well enough.
> >
> > > We play to these strengths whenever we can. We provide a model 
> > > that is focused on the work performed not hours at a desk. We make 
> > > their
> families
> > > important to us. We provide them with a steady flow of positive 
> > > reinforcement. Out of a staff of 18 nearly half are now remotely
> working
> > in
> > > various parts of the country.
> >
> > +1 on all of that.
> >
> > > 1) How do you develop community and facilitate knowledge sharing 
> > > with a remote staff.
> >
> > Regular interaction via Skype, mailing lists, wikis.
> >
> > > 2) How do you manage meetings and stakeholder interaction.
> >
> > Keep them to a minimum - and use video conference calls when you do 
> > them
> at
> > all.
> >
> > > 3) What technology is the most helpful with a remote staff.
> >
> > Keep all your resources in the cloud - use a hosted bug tracker / 
> > version control system. Use IM a LOT. Use Skype (with video). Use 
> > iChat (chat, audio, video, screen sharing - Mac rocks!).
> >
> > > 4) How do you overcome the hesitancy of potential customers who 
> > > are uncomfortable with a remote staff.
> >
> > Seriously? You still encounter this? I've worked remotely for 
> > customers for years - I've *never* seen resistance to this.
> > --
> > Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN
> > An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ World Singles, LLC. -- 
> > http://worldsingles.com/ Railo Technologies, Inc. -- 
> > http://www.getrailo.com/
> >
> > "Perfection is the enemy of the good."
> > -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880)
> >
> >
>
> 



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Re: application.cfm

[Claude Schnéegans]

 >>I will ask another question, is this application.cfm in the directory of the
template in question,

Yes, of course, and it include higher lever application.cfm

 >>But you really need to work out why it is trying to compile the PDF as a
CFML template,

Again, since application.cfm is to be executed prior the template specified in 
the url, and since the code in the application.cfm could redirect the request 
to another template, or simply abort the request, I thought the requested 
template would be compiled only after application.cfm execution and only if it 
was to be actually executed.
This would have been logical after all, but it is not the way it works: both 
application.cfm AND the template are compiled first, THEN application.cfm is 
executed.
It could have been that application is compiled and executed FIRST, then the 
template is compiled and executed if application passes control to it.
Since my application.cfm always terminates on a CFABORT, the requested template 
is NEVER executed, and there is no reason it should be compiled.



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RE: application.cfm

[Andrew Scott]

Right, that means that there is a problem with the way your are trying to
deliver the PDF and why it is throwing an error.

Now if you are 100% confident that your PDF is being delivered by the
cfcontent tag, then it sounds like you may have come across a bug.

Feel free to ping me off list with your application.cfm and the template in
question and the PDF and I will have a look at it for you. And tell me which
version of ColdFusion you are trying to run this against.


Regards,
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> -Original Message-
> From: Claude Schnéegans  [mailto:=?ISO-
> 8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans  1?Q?ue.com=3E?=]
> Sent: Thursday, 23 June 2011 11:29 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: application.cfm
> 
> 
>  >>You keep talking about templates being compiled, if there is an error
as
> you have mentioned this will stop the compile of the template and it will
look
> like it is being complied before the other.
> 
> 
> This is what happens indeed. There a compile error because the pdf file
> happens to contain some bytes that look like a CF tag, then it causes a
> compile error and the application.cfm is not even executed.
> This is the first time it happens in about 10 years I've bee using this
method.
> I thought the template would never be compiled because of CFABORT in
> application.cfm, now I see it is not the case.


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Re: application.cfm

[Claude Schnéegans]

 >>You keep talking about templates being compiled, if there is an error as you
have mentioned this will stop the compile of the template and it will look
like it is being complied before the other.


This is what happens indeed. There a compile error because the pdf file happens 
to contain some bytes that look like a CF tag, then it causes a compile error 
and the application.cfm is not even executed.
This is the first time it happens in about 10 years I've bee using this method.
I thought the template would never be compiled because of CFABORT in 
application.cfm, now I see it is not the case.

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RE: application.cfm

[Andrew Scott]

You keep talking about templates being compiled, if there is an error as you
have mentioned this will stop the compile of the template and it will look
like it is being complied before the other.

I will say this again, the problem is not when it gets compiled but how you
are doing it.

And I will be honest you have far too much going on in the Application.cfm,
why not put that in the cfml template that pulls up the PDF in the first
place?

I will ask another question, is this application.cfm in the directory of the
template in question, or are you relying on the one in the root of the
application? Not that it matters, but might explain why you are doing what
you are doing with the counting of each request of the PDF.

But you really need to work out why it is trying to compile the PDF as a
CFML template, that is what the problem is and until you fix that you need
to forget about when and how it compiles the CFML template, because and
error is not going to compile anything.


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> -Original Message-
> From: Claude Schnéegans  [mailto:=?ISO-
> 8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans  1?Q?ue.com=3E?=]
> Sent: Thursday, 23 June 2011 11:04 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: application.cfm
> 
> 
>  >>In Claude's original question, it doesn't appear he's using CFCONTENT:
> 
> Yes I am.
> Here is a summary of the code in application.cfm:
> You can see that the requested file is never executed nor intended to.
> The only purpose of the .cfm extension is to force the execution of the
> application.cfm Here, the code in application.cfm is only used to count
the nb
> of times each document was requested.
> The advantages of the method are 1. simplicity, 2. it is compatible with
> previous documents uploaded with true .pdf and .doc extension prior we
> implemented this counting scheme.
> The only problem which we didn't figure out at the time is that the
template
> is compiled BEFORE application.cfm is called.
> It could have been AFTER as well and CF would still work the same.
> In pure logic, there is no use to compile a template before it is certain
it will
> be executed.
> There are other cases templates are compiled for nothing, ie:
> application.cfm verifies a user is logged, if not, it  toward the loggin script, then the template he called is never executed.
> CF could have very well been designed so that templates are compiled only
if
> executed.
> Now I know it is not the case.
> 
> 
>  DATASOURCE="#application.applicationName#">
>SELECT docId,
>  fileName,
>  localName
>FROM docs
>WHERE localName = '#listLast(cgi.script_name, "/")#'
> 
> 
>  fileExists("#application.webRootDir#contentDocuments\#GetDoc.localName
> #")>
>   DATASOURCE="#application.applicationName#">
>UPDATE docs
>  SET nblu = nblu+1
>WHERE docId = #getDoc.docId#
> 
> 
> 
>  VALUE='Attachment;filename="#getDoc.fileName#"'>
> 
>  FILE="#application.webRootDir#contentDocuments\#GetDoc.localName#">
> 
> 
> "This file doesn't exist">SRC="../images/header.png"
>  WIDTH="790" HEIGHT="135" BORDER="0" ALT="">
> #erreur#
> 
> 
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Re: CF vs. Java Web Developer

[Roger Austin]

 Russ Michaels  wrote: 
> 
> LOL, well unless u have stats it is nothing more than opinion, but common
> sense tells you that distractions stop you form working effectively.
> And the only way to avoid those distractions is to be away from them.

There are disciplines that you need for working remotely that don't come 
into play at the office. The office is the most common way to work so some 
issues with productivity are muted by the fact that the boss saw you there 
working and knew you weren't just goofing off. If you are out of the office, 
many bosses wonder if you are actually working. That said, there are people 
working in offices that get very little accomplished. 

Everyone is different, but I think there are some ideas that allow home 
working to be as productive or more than office work. One is that you need 
the proper setup and environment to do good work. For many people, that is 
a separate space with the equipment setup that allows for work. If you are 
working on the kitchen table, you might have a problem concentrating as 
people eat their cereal.

Another difficulty can be all the little issues that pop up that auto-magically 
get taken care of by office managers and other office staff. You order your 
own supplies, answer your own calls, make your own coffee, etc.

I work at home at least one day a week and it is great, but there I'm still 
trying to get my setup fleshed out so it is as productive as the office. Some 
tasks are no different from home to office. Others are more complicated by 
being away. Most of these are not related to software development though. (Many 
of us who do CFML development wear multiple hats.) I think I would be very 
happy working at home full time.

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Re: application.cfm

[Claude Schnéegans]

 >>In Claude's original question, it doesn't appear he's using CFCONTENT:

Yes I am.
Here is a summary of the code in application.cfm:
You can see that the requested file is never executed nor intended to.
The only purpose of the .cfm extension is to force the execution of the 
application.cfm
Here, the code in application.cfm is only used to count the nb of times each 
document was requested.
The advantages of the method are 1. simplicity, 2. it is compatible with 
previous documents uploaded with true .pdf and .doc extension prior we 
implemented this counting scheme.
The only problem which we didn't figure out at the time is that the template is 
compiled BEFORE application.cfm is called.
It could have been AFTER as well and CF would still work the same.
In pure logic, there is no use to compile a template before it is certain it 
will be executed.
There are other cases templates are compiled for nothing, ie:
application.cfm verifies a user is logged, if not, it 

   SELECT docId,
 fileName,
 localName
   FROM docs
   WHERE localName = '#listLast(cgi.script_name, "/")#'





   UPDATE docs
 SET nblu = nblu+1
   WHERE docId = #getDoc.docId#















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Re: CF vs. Java Web Developer

[John M Bliss]

Right. Telecommuters have an (obvious) responsibility to avoid enough
distractions and/or put in enough hours to get their work done.

But same goes for non-telecommuters.


On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:59 AM, Russ Michaels  wrote:

>
> LOL, well unless u have stats it is nothing more than opinion, but common
> sense tells you that distractions stop you form working effectively.
> And the only way to avoid those distractions is to be away from them.
>
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 12:37 PM, John M Bliss 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Can we not say "a lot?" Can we agree on "some?" Just in case my next
> > employer is reading this thread?
> >
> > Unless you have stats...?
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:34 AM, Russ Michaels 
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > working from home doesn't work for a lot of people though, there are
> too
> > > many distractions, tv, food, wife or g/f, even more so if you have
> small
> > > kids screaming round the house all day or if you do not have a separate
> > > room
> > > to use as an office.
> > > I have been far more productive since I moved out of the house and into
> a
> > > proper office, as has my wife (who works for me).
> > >
> > > Russ
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 12:13 PM, John M Bliss 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > +1 on everything said thus far re: telecommute. My company has < 10
> > > > employees, no office, and we're spread out over four states. We use
> > some
> > > > tools already mentioned plus GoToMeeting.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > John Bliss - http://about.me/jbliss
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 2:20 AM, Sean Corfield <
> seancorfi...@gmail.com
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:15 AM, Mark A. Kruger <
> > > mkru...@cfwebtools.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > When we mad telecommuting available and stopped worrying about
> > > > relocation
> > > > > > things got a lot easier for us.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll +100 on this.
> > > > >
> > > > > At Broadchoice, we figured out who we'd like to work for us and
> > > > > conducted screening interviews, then flew in our top picks (from
> the
> > > > > list of candidates who had expressed interest) for a two-day
> > > > > mini-conference with the full company team - and we made the
> > > > > candidates present to the team! We had no plans to make anyone
> > > > > relocate - we already let people telecommute a few days a week even
> > if
> > > > > they lived locally.
> > > > >
> > > > > At World Singles, most of the company were telecommuting when I
> > joined
> > > > > because we're a (small) global company. We quickly gave up the
> office
> > > > > in So. Cal. and let everyone work from home full time. Now, when we
> > > > > hire someone, location is simply not an issue: if you're right for
> > us,
> > > > > we'll hire you (and you get to work in PJs or whatever you want).
> We
> > > > > plan to have an all-hands company meeting once or twice a year and
> > fly
> > > > > everyone in for the event, but we rely on Yammer! and Unfuddle /
> git
> > > > > and mailing lists and Skype and iChat and so on. We can pair
> remotely
> > > > > as engineers whenever we want - not as good as pairing face-to-face
> > > > > but it works well enough.
> > > > >
> > > > > > We play to these strengths whenever we can. We provide a model
> that
> > > is
> > > > > > focused on the work performed not hours at a desk. We make their
> > > > families
> > > > > > important to us. We provide them with a steady flow of positive
> > > > > > reinforcement. Out of a staff of 18 nearly half are now remotely
> > > > working
> > > > > in
> > > > > > various parts of the country.
> > > > >
> > > > > +1 on all of that.
> > > > >
> > > > > > 1) How do you develop community and facilitate knowledge sharing
> > with
> > > a
> > > > > > remote staff.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regular interaction via Skype, mailing lists, wikis.
> > > > >
> > > > > > 2) How do you manage meetings and stakeholder interaction.
> > > > >
> > > > > Keep them to a minimum - and use video conference calls when you do
> > > them
> > > > at
> > > > > all.
> > > > >
> > > > > > 3) What technology is the most helpful with a remote staff.
> > > > >
> > > > > Keep all your resources in the cloud - use a hosted bug tracker /
> > > > > version control system. Use IM a LOT. Use Skype (with video). Use
> > > > > iChat (chat, audio, video, screen sharing - Mac rocks!).
> > > > >
> > > > > > 4) How do you overcome the hesitancy of potential customers who
> are
> > > > > > uncomfortable with a remote staff.
> > > > >
> > > > > Seriously? You still encounter this? I've worked remotely for
> > > > > customers for years - I've *never* seen resistance to this.
> > > > > --
> > > > > Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN
> > > > > An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/
> > > > > World Singles, LLC. -- http://worldsingles.com/
> > > > > Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://www.getrailo.com/
> > > > >
> > > > > "Perfection is the enemy of the good."
> > > > >

Re: CF vs. Java Web Developer

[Russ Michaels]

LOL, well unless u have stats it is nothing more than opinion, but common
sense tells you that distractions stop you form working effectively.
And the only way to avoid those distractions is to be away from them.

On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 12:37 PM, John M Bliss  wrote:

>
> Can we not say "a lot?" Can we agree on "some?" Just in case my next
> employer is reading this thread?
>
> Unless you have stats...?
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:34 AM, Russ Michaels 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > working from home doesn't work for a lot of people though, there are too
> > many distractions, tv, food, wife or g/f, even more so if you have small
> > kids screaming round the house all day or if you do not have a separate
> > room
> > to use as an office.
> > I have been far more productive since I moved out of the house and into a
> > proper office, as has my wife (who works for me).
> >
> > Russ
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 12:13 PM, John M Bliss 
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > +1 on everything said thus far re: telecommute. My company has < 10
> > > employees, no office, and we're spread out over four states. We use
> some
> > > tools already mentioned plus GoToMeeting.
> > >
> > > --
> > > John Bliss - http://about.me/jbliss
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 2:20 AM, Sean Corfield  > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:15 AM, Mark A. Kruger <
> > mkru...@cfwebtools.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > When we mad telecommuting available and stopped worrying about
> > > relocation
> > > > > things got a lot easier for us.
> > > >
> > > > I'll +100 on this.
> > > >
> > > > At Broadchoice, we figured out who we'd like to work for us and
> > > > conducted screening interviews, then flew in our top picks (from the
> > > > list of candidates who had expressed interest) for a two-day
> > > > mini-conference with the full company team - and we made the
> > > > candidates present to the team! We had no plans to make anyone
> > > > relocate - we already let people telecommute a few days a week even
> if
> > > > they lived locally.
> > > >
> > > > At World Singles, most of the company were telecommuting when I
> joined
> > > > because we're a (small) global company. We quickly gave up the office
> > > > in So. Cal. and let everyone work from home full time. Now, when we
> > > > hire someone, location is simply not an issue: if you're right for
> us,
> > > > we'll hire you (and you get to work in PJs or whatever you want). We
> > > > plan to have an all-hands company meeting once or twice a year and
> fly
> > > > everyone in for the event, but we rely on Yammer! and Unfuddle / git
> > > > and mailing lists and Skype and iChat and so on. We can pair remotely
> > > > as engineers whenever we want - not as good as pairing face-to-face
> > > > but it works well enough.
> > > >
> > > > > We play to these strengths whenever we can. We provide a model that
> > is
> > > > > focused on the work performed not hours at a desk. We make their
> > > families
> > > > > important to us. We provide them with a steady flow of positive
> > > > > reinforcement. Out of a staff of 18 nearly half are now remotely
> > > working
> > > > in
> > > > > various parts of the country.
> > > >
> > > > +1 on all of that.
> > > >
> > > > > 1) How do you develop community and facilitate knowledge sharing
> with
> > a
> > > > > remote staff.
> > > >
> > > > Regular interaction via Skype, mailing lists, wikis.
> > > >
> > > > > 2) How do you manage meetings and stakeholder interaction.
> > > >
> > > > Keep them to a minimum - and use video conference calls when you do
> > them
> > > at
> > > > all.
> > > >
> > > > > 3) What technology is the most helpful with a remote staff.
> > > >
> > > > Keep all your resources in the cloud - use a hosted bug tracker /
> > > > version control system. Use IM a LOT. Use Skype (with video). Use
> > > > iChat (chat, audio, video, screen sharing - Mac rocks!).
> > > >
> > > > > 4) How do you overcome the hesitancy of potential customers who are
> > > > > uncomfortable with a remote staff.
> > > >
> > > > Seriously? You still encounter this? I've worked remotely for
> > > > customers for years - I've *never* seen resistance to this.
> > > > --
> > > > Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN
> > > > An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/
> > > > World Singles, LLC. -- http://worldsingles.com/
> > > > Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://www.getrailo.com/
> > > >
> > > > "Perfection is the enemy of the good."
> > > > -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880)
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: CF vs. Java Web Developer

[John M Bliss]

That should have read, "Just in case my next employer is reading this thread
and is on the fence about hiring telecommuters?"

On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:37 AM, John M Bliss  wrote:

> Can we not say "a lot?" Can we agree on "some?" Just in case my next
> employer is reading this thread?
>
> Unless you have stats...?
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:34 AM, Russ Michaels wrote:
>
>>
>> working from home doesn't work for a lot of people though, there are too
>> many distractions, tv, food, wife or g/f, even more so if you have small
>> kids screaming round the house all day or if you do not have a separate
>> room
>> to use as an office.
>> I have been far more productive since I moved out of the house and into a
>> proper office, as has my wife (who works for me).
>>
>> Russ
>
>
>


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Re: CF vs. Java Web Developer

[John M Bliss]

Can we not say "a lot?" Can we agree on "some?" Just in case my next
employer is reading this thread?

Unless you have stats...?


On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:34 AM, Russ Michaels  wrote:

>
> working from home doesn't work for a lot of people though, there are too
> many distractions, tv, food, wife or g/f, even more so if you have small
> kids screaming round the house all day or if you do not have a separate
> room
> to use as an office.
> I have been far more productive since I moved out of the house and into a
> proper office, as has my wife (who works for me).
>
> Russ
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 12:13 PM, John M Bliss 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > +1 on everything said thus far re: telecommute. My company has < 10
> > employees, no office, and we're spread out over four states. We use some
> > tools already mentioned plus GoToMeeting.
> >
> > --
> > John Bliss - http://about.me/jbliss
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 2:20 AM, Sean Corfield  > >wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:15 AM, Mark A. Kruger <
> mkru...@cfwebtools.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > When we mad telecommuting available and stopped worrying about
> > relocation
> > > > things got a lot easier for us.
> > >
> > > I'll +100 on this.
> > >
> > > At Broadchoice, we figured out who we'd like to work for us and
> > > conducted screening interviews, then flew in our top picks (from the
> > > list of candidates who had expressed interest) for a two-day
> > > mini-conference with the full company team - and we made the
> > > candidates present to the team! We had no plans to make anyone
> > > relocate - we already let people telecommute a few days a week even if
> > > they lived locally.
> > >
> > > At World Singles, most of the company were telecommuting when I joined
> > > because we're a (small) global company. We quickly gave up the office
> > > in So. Cal. and let everyone work from home full time. Now, when we
> > > hire someone, location is simply not an issue: if you're right for us,
> > > we'll hire you (and you get to work in PJs or whatever you want). We
> > > plan to have an all-hands company meeting once or twice a year and fly
> > > everyone in for the event, but we rely on Yammer! and Unfuddle / git
> > > and mailing lists and Skype and iChat and so on. We can pair remotely
> > > as engineers whenever we want - not as good as pairing face-to-face
> > > but it works well enough.
> > >
> > > > We play to these strengths whenever we can. We provide a model that
> is
> > > > focused on the work performed not hours at a desk. We make their
> > families
> > > > important to us. We provide them with a steady flow of positive
> > > > reinforcement. Out of a staff of 18 nearly half are now remotely
> > working
> > > in
> > > > various parts of the country.
> > >
> > > +1 on all of that.
> > >
> > > > 1) How do you develop community and facilitate knowledge sharing with
> a
> > > > remote staff.
> > >
> > > Regular interaction via Skype, mailing lists, wikis.
> > >
> > > > 2) How do you manage meetings and stakeholder interaction.
> > >
> > > Keep them to a minimum - and use video conference calls when you do
> them
> > at
> > > all.
> > >
> > > > 3) What technology is the most helpful with a remote staff.
> > >
> > > Keep all your resources in the cloud - use a hosted bug tracker /
> > > version control system. Use IM a LOT. Use Skype (with video). Use
> > > iChat (chat, audio, video, screen sharing - Mac rocks!).
> > >
> > > > 4) How do you overcome the hesitancy of potential customers who are
> > > > uncomfortable with a remote staff.
> > >
> > > Seriously? You still encounter this? I've worked remotely for
> > > customers for years - I've *never* seen resistance to this.
> > > --
> > > Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN
> > > An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/
> > > World Singles, LLC. -- http://worldsingles.com/
> > > Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://www.getrailo.com/
> > >
> > > "Perfection is the enemy of the good."
> > > -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880)
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: CF vs. Java Web Developer

[Russ Michaels]

working from home doesn't work for a lot of people though, there are too
many distractions, tv, food, wife or g/f, even more so if you have small
kids screaming round the house all day or if you do not have a separate room
to use as an office.
I have been far more productive since I moved out of the house and into a
proper office, as has my wife (who works for me).

Russ


On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 12:13 PM, John M Bliss  wrote:

>
> +1 on everything said thus far re: telecommute. My company has < 10
> employees, no office, and we're spread out over four states. We use some
> tools already mentioned plus GoToMeeting.
>
> --
> John Bliss - http://about.me/jbliss
>
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 2:20 AM, Sean Corfield  >wrote:
>
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:15 AM, Mark A. Kruger 
> > wrote:
> > > When we mad telecommuting available and stopped worrying about
> relocation
> > > things got a lot easier for us.
> >
> > I'll +100 on this.
> >
> > At Broadchoice, we figured out who we'd like to work for us and
> > conducted screening interviews, then flew in our top picks (from the
> > list of candidates who had expressed interest) for a two-day
> > mini-conference with the full company team - and we made the
> > candidates present to the team! We had no plans to make anyone
> > relocate - we already let people telecommute a few days a week even if
> > they lived locally.
> >
> > At World Singles, most of the company were telecommuting when I joined
> > because we're a (small) global company. We quickly gave up the office
> > in So. Cal. and let everyone work from home full time. Now, when we
> > hire someone, location is simply not an issue: if you're right for us,
> > we'll hire you (and you get to work in PJs or whatever you want). We
> > plan to have an all-hands company meeting once or twice a year and fly
> > everyone in for the event, but we rely on Yammer! and Unfuddle / git
> > and mailing lists and Skype and iChat and so on. We can pair remotely
> > as engineers whenever we want - not as good as pairing face-to-face
> > but it works well enough.
> >
> > > We play to these strengths whenever we can. We provide a model that is
> > > focused on the work performed not hours at a desk. We make their
> families
> > > important to us. We provide them with a steady flow of positive
> > > reinforcement. Out of a staff of 18 nearly half are now remotely
> working
> > in
> > > various parts of the country.
> >
> > +1 on all of that.
> >
> > > 1) How do you develop community and facilitate knowledge sharing with a
> > > remote staff.
> >
> > Regular interaction via Skype, mailing lists, wikis.
> >
> > > 2) How do you manage meetings and stakeholder interaction.
> >
> > Keep them to a minimum - and use video conference calls when you do them
> at
> > all.
> >
> > > 3) What technology is the most helpful with a remote staff.
> >
> > Keep all your resources in the cloud - use a hosted bug tracker /
> > version control system. Use IM a LOT. Use Skype (with video). Use
> > iChat (chat, audio, video, screen sharing - Mac rocks!).
> >
> > > 4) How do you overcome the hesitancy of potential customers who are
> > > uncomfortable with a remote staff.
> >
> > Seriously? You still encounter this? I've worked remotely for
> > customers for years - I've *never* seen resistance to this.
> > --
> > Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN
> > An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/
> > World Singles, LLC. -- http://worldsingles.com/
> > Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://www.getrailo.com/
> >
> > "Perfection is the enemy of the good."
> > -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880)
> >
> >
>
> 

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RE: Timing out a webpage

[Rick Sanders]

Thank you for your reply. This looks like a great solution on top of the
java script.

Have a good day.

Rick Sanders
Webenergy
www.webenergy.ca

-Original Message-
From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 4:10 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Timing out a webpage


...but note that Javascript can be turned off.  So, in addition, you'd want
to do something like this on page load (including first page where timer
should start and last page that processes test):






On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Russ Michaels  wrote:

>
> well you have 2 options.
>
> set your session timeout to 15 minutes, this will then mean they cannot
sit
> on a page doing nothing for more than 15 minutes.
> If you want to time them for 15 minutes regardless of how many pages they
> load or refresh then you could create a Javascript timer, Google will
> garnish you with one of these.
>
> Russ
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:39 PM, John M Bliss 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Can the timeout check happen on a page load?  Or do you need to have it
> > happen while page is displayed?
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Rick Sanders  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hey all. I have an online test that I want to timeout after 15mins.
> Does
> > > ColdFusion have a feature built-in to do this? It's my first time
doing
> > > this
> > > sort of thing. Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Kind Regards,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > WebLogomailsig
> > >
> > > Rick Sanders
> > >
> > > Webenergy Software
> > >
> > > 902-401-7689
> > >
> > > http://www.webenergy.ca 
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 



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Re: CF vs. Java Web Developer

[John M Bliss]

+1 on everything said thus far re: telecommute. My company has < 10
employees, no office, and we're spread out over four states. We use some
tools already mentioned plus GoToMeeting.

-- 
John Bliss - http://about.me/jbliss

On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 2:20 AM, Sean Corfield wrote:

>
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:15 AM, Mark A. Kruger 
> wrote:
> > When we mad telecommuting available and stopped worrying about relocation
> > things got a lot easier for us.
>
> I'll +100 on this.
>
> At Broadchoice, we figured out who we'd like to work for us and
> conducted screening interviews, then flew in our top picks (from the
> list of candidates who had expressed interest) for a two-day
> mini-conference with the full company team - and we made the
> candidates present to the team! We had no plans to make anyone
> relocate - we already let people telecommute a few days a week even if
> they lived locally.
>
> At World Singles, most of the company were telecommuting when I joined
> because we're a (small) global company. We quickly gave up the office
> in So. Cal. and let everyone work from home full time. Now, when we
> hire someone, location is simply not an issue: if you're right for us,
> we'll hire you (and you get to work in PJs or whatever you want). We
> plan to have an all-hands company meeting once or twice a year and fly
> everyone in for the event, but we rely on Yammer! and Unfuddle / git
> and mailing lists and Skype and iChat and so on. We can pair remotely
> as engineers whenever we want - not as good as pairing face-to-face
> but it works well enough.
>
> > We play to these strengths whenever we can. We provide a model that is
> > focused on the work performed not hours at a desk. We make their families
> > important to us. We provide them with a steady flow of positive
> > reinforcement. Out of a staff of 18 nearly half are now remotely working
> in
> > various parts of the country.
>
> +1 on all of that.
>
> > 1) How do you develop community and facilitate knowledge sharing with a
> > remote staff.
>
> Regular interaction via Skype, mailing lists, wikis.
>
> > 2) How do you manage meetings and stakeholder interaction.
>
> Keep them to a minimum - and use video conference calls when you do them at
> all.
>
> > 3) What technology is the most helpful with a remote staff.
>
> Keep all your resources in the cloud - use a hosted bug tracker /
> version control system. Use IM a LOT. Use Skype (with video). Use
> iChat (chat, audio, video, screen sharing - Mac rocks!).
>
> > 4) How do you overcome the hesitancy of potential customers who are
> > uncomfortable with a remote staff.
>
> Seriously? You still encounter this? I've worked remotely for
> customers for years - I've *never* seen resistance to this.
> --
> Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN
> An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/
> World Singles, LLC. -- http://worldsingles.com/
> Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://www.getrailo.com/
>
> "Perfection is the enemy of the good."
> -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880)
>
> 

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Re: application.cfm

[Dominic Watson]

Here's how I would approach this. First, if you are dead set on having
the link to the pdf appear as a regular 'pdf' link, create a url
rewrite rule (using either mod_rewrite in Apache, an IIS isapi
extension for IIS, or another mechanism if you are using some other
webserver). The mod_rewrite rule might look something like this (not
checked for accuracy):

RewriteEngine On
RewriteRule ^somefakedownloaddir/(.+?)\.pdf$ processPdfRequest.cfm?file=$1[L]

In other words, you can download the pdf by accessing:

http://myserver.com/processPdfRequest.cfm?file=/path/to/my.pdf (or a
more suitable URL should you be using a framework, etc.)

In your 'processPdfRequest.cfm' or somewhere in your request cycle,
you can check access rights and file existence. Then, if all is good,
serve the file using cfcontent (again, unverified code):




HTH

Dominic








On 22 June 2011 16:12,  <> wrote:
>
>  >>The CFML must be compiled in order for Java to execute it
>
> Sure, but actually I don't want to execute the file, nor compile it.
> Yhe file is actually a pdf file under .cfm extension.
> This is to force execution of an application.cfm first in which I check if 
> the user is authorized to open the file.
> If yes, the application.cfm returns the document with the correct name and 
> headers,
> if not, it returns an error message.
> This way, documents cannot be opened directely.
>
> I've been using this trick for years, until this morning a user loaded some 
> document containing by chance characters  This causes a compilation error, this is how I figured out that the document 
> was compiled prior application.cfm was called.
>
> I'm affraid I'll have to completely redesign my document retreiving system.
>
> 

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Re: application.cfm

[Russ Michaels]

yes of course, .htaccess files are otherwise hidden and cannot be viewed or
edited. So you would provide a tool within your admin panel to add/remove
users to the .htaccess

On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 5:49 AM, Andrew Scott wrote:

>
> Would that not be another risk, or do you mean secured login via an admin
> panel to edit ths?
>
>
> Regards,
> Andrew Scott
> http://www.andyscott.id.au/
>
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk]
> > Sent: Thursday, 23 June 2011 5:15 AM
> > To: cf-talk
> > Subject: Re: application.cfm
> >
> >
> > It is pretty simple.
> >
> > use CFFILE to read the .htaccess file
> > add a new user
> > use CFFILE to write the .htaccess file
> >
> > User logs in, when he is authenticated, his credentials are available in
> the CGI
> > scope for you to use via CFML.
> >
> > As I said, on Apache this is native, on IIS you can use Helicon APE
> (which
> > probably has an API as well).
> >
> >
> > Russ
> >
>
>
> 

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RE: application.cfm

[Andrew Scott]

I think he admitted to it a bit later.


Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/


> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
> Sent: Thursday, 23 June 2011 6:26 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: application.cfm
> 
> 
> > Dave, I realise that. In this case he is claiming to use cfcontent,
> > any content that is used in this manner should not be compiled into
> > the CFML template.
> >
> > That was my point.
> 
> In Claude's original question, it doesn't appear he's using CFCONTENT:
> 
> "I've noticed that application.cfm is indeed run before the template
called in
> the url, but the template itself is compiled BEFORE application.cfm is
called. I
> need to have the ability in application.cfm to run some code and NOT
> compile the template."
> 
> If you're using CFCONTENT to fetch a file, that file isn't the template
called in
> the URL.
> 
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> http://training.figleaf.com/
> 
> Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA
> Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction
at
> our training centers, online, or onsite.
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Re: application.cfm

[Dave Watts]

> Dave, I realise that. In this case he is claiming to use cfcontent, any
> content that is used in this manner should not be compiled into the CFML
> template.
>
> That was my point.

In Claude's original question, it doesn't appear he's using CFCONTENT:

"I've noticed that application.cfm is indeed run before the template
called in the url, but the template itself is compiled BEFORE
application.cfm is called. I need to have the ability in
application.cfm to run some code and NOT compile the template."

If you're using CFCONTENT to fetch a file, that file isn't the
template called in the URL.

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http://training.figleaf.com/

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Re: CF vs. Java Web Developer

[Sean Corfield]

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:15 AM, Mark A. Kruger  wrote:
> When we mad telecommuting available and stopped worrying about relocation
> things got a lot easier for us.

I'll +100 on this.

At Broadchoice, we figured out who we'd like to work for us and
conducted screening interviews, then flew in our top picks (from the
list of candidates who had expressed interest) for a two-day
mini-conference with the full company team - and we made the
candidates present to the team! We had no plans to make anyone
relocate - we already let people telecommute a few days a week even if
they lived locally.

At World Singles, most of the company were telecommuting when I joined
because we're a (small) global company. We quickly gave up the office
in So. Cal. and let everyone work from home full time. Now, when we
hire someone, location is simply not an issue: if you're right for us,
we'll hire you (and you get to work in PJs or whatever you want). We
plan to have an all-hands company meeting once or twice a year and fly
everyone in for the event, but we rely on Yammer! and Unfuddle / git
and mailing lists and Skype and iChat and so on. We can pair remotely
as engineers whenever we want - not as good as pairing face-to-face
but it works well enough.

> We play to these strengths whenever we can. We provide a model that is
> focused on the work performed not hours at a desk. We make their families
> important to us. We provide them with a steady flow of positive
> reinforcement. Out of a staff of 18 nearly half are now remotely working in
> various parts of the country.

+1 on all of that.

> 1) How do you develop community and facilitate knowledge sharing with a
> remote staff.

Regular interaction via Skype, mailing lists, wikis.

> 2) How do you manage meetings and stakeholder interaction.

Keep them to a minimum - and use video conference calls when you do them at all.

> 3) What technology is the most helpful with a remote staff.

Keep all your resources in the cloud - use a hosted bug tracker /
version control system. Use IM a LOT. Use Skype (with video). Use
iChat (chat, audio, video, screen sharing - Mac rocks!).

> 4) How do you overcome the hesitancy of potential customers who are
> uncomfortable with a remote staff.

Seriously? You still encounter this? I've worked remotely for
customers for years - I've *never* seen resistance to this.
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RE: application.cfm

[Andrew Scott]

Dave, I realise that. In this case he is claiming to use cfcontent, any
content that is used in this manner should not be compiled into the CFML
template.

That was my point.


Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/




> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
> Sent: Thursday, 23 June 2011 4:56 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: application.cfm
> 
> 
> > CF should not be compiling anything that is not CFML, if it is this
> > actually happening then it sounds like a bug in CF.
> 
> If you give a file a .cfm extension and invoke that file in an HTTP
request on a
> server configured to run CF, for all intents and purposes that file is
CFML,
> whether it contains any CFML tags or functions or not. And CF will compile
it,
> and this is not a bug, but the intended behavior.
> 
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> http://training.figleaf.com/
> 
> Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA
> Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction
at
> our training centers, online, or onsite.
> 


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