Re: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices

[James Holmes]

Sure - on CF Community.

This is a technical mailing list, not Oprah.

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On 12 November 2011 08:16, Judah McAuley  wrote:

>
> I don't know, Wil, I think that the topic of tone and tenor of
> responses to mailing lists (empathy vs correctness in Rick's
> terminology) is an excellent discussion for a community to have.


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How to respond to a job thread?

[Chris Vinson]

Pardon my ignorance.  I'd like to respond to a CF developer looking for 
contract work in the CF-Jobs list.  But I was not a mailing list subscriber at 
the time of the post.  How can I contact that person? 

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RE: cfajax error

[Rick Faircloth]

Yes... seems those reserved words were a problem
to always watch out for in Access.


-Original Message-
From: Leigh [mailto:cfsearch...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 9:11 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: cfajax error


Rick - The odbc date format should be fine. I am pretty sure the column
named "Year" is the problem. It is a reserved word. 

-Leigh



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Re: cfajax error

[Leigh]

Rick - The odbc date format should be fine. I am pretty sure the column named 
"Year" is the problem. It is a reserved word. 

-Leigh

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RE: cfajax error

[Rick Faircloth]

Seems like, many years ago when I worked with Access,
I had to use something like #dateFormat(parseDateTime(myDate), 'mmm d,
')#
or maybe just #dateFormat(parseDate(myDate), 'mmm d, ')# to get Access
to accept even properly formatted dates.

I can't find any of the old code just now, but maybe this will help.
I'll see if I have any old code in a site or perhaps some test code
that I used before.

I feel certain that the parsing was part of what made it work.

Sorry I can't be more specific!

hth,

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Steve Milburn [mailto:scmilb...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 1:57 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: cfajax error


Have you tried to quote the last item in the values list (the year)?
Depending on how that is defined in the database, it may require quotes.

Instead of:
#year(foodate)#

Try:
'#year(foodate)#'

HTH
Steve

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Greg Morphis  wrote:

>
> Same error.. WTH?
> foodate is today.. 11/11/2011
>
>
> Error Executing Database Query. Syntax error in INSERT INTO statement.
> The
> error occurred in
>
>
*C:\JRun4\servers\cfusion\cfusion-ear\cfusion-war\Production\TWST\time_off_s
ave.cfm:
> line 53*
>
> 51 :
>  '#session.user.employee_id#',
> 52 :
>  #createodbcdate(now())#,
> *53 :   #year(foodate)#*
> 54 :)
> 55 :
>
> --
> SQLINSERT INTO time_taken ( time_off_id, employee_id, date_taken,
> notes, actionuser, actiondate, year ) VALUES ( 'VV', 'e0012345', {d
> '2011-11-11'}, '', 'e0012345', {d '2011-11-11'}, 2011 ) DATASOURCE
>  blurred_text
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Greg Morphis  wrote:
>




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Re: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices

[Judah McAuley]

I don't know, Wil, I think that the topic of tone and tenor of
responses to mailing lists (empathy vs correctness in Rick's
terminology) is an excellent discussion for a community to have.

In general, I agree with Rick that empathy is a very positive trait to
bring to the table (in all aspects of life) and that sometimes being
"correct" or "right" can end up with you being viewed as a jerk.

However, in this particular case, I disagree that anyone was not
treating Irvin with empathy. Several people, myself included, agreed
with the empathetic part...that we wish Adobe would spend more time
and money promoting CF.  Where the disagreement was was in the area of
whether CF is dying, what that means, how it should be viewed. At
first this was done with respect, by and large, which is surprising
since this topic comes up with regularity. Then Irvin came back with
bones to pick and decided that Dave was putting up straw man arguments
(which was untrue) and perhaps that I didn't like him (which was true
by the end of the conversation but I tried not to let that affect my
answers).

I think that empathy is important and the empathetic reaction to "CF
is dying!" is the one that was given here: It is not dying in a sudden
and unreasonable fashion, don't panic. Take the skills that you've
learned here and learn other languages. This will not only enhance
your ability to find work in the future, it will make you a better CF
programmer today and a more well rounded person in general.

If the sort of empathy that Rick is looking for is more of the "I need
to rant about something and have everyone just kinda nod and let it
go", then I'd suggest cf-community as a better suited venue.

I do think that looking at civility, empathy and tenor of responses on
a list is a good subject to muse upon though.

Cheers,
Judah

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Wil Genovese  wrote:
>
> ENOUGH ALREADY
>
>
>

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Re: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices

[Wil Genovese]

ENOUGH ALREADY







Wil Genovese

One man with courage makes a majority.
-Andrew Jackson

A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. 

On Nov 11, 2011, at 5:34 PM, Rick Faircloth wrote:

> 
> No one has the right to be a hard-ass, I don't
> care how much they've helped.  That kind of attitude
> towards people only convinces passive participants
> from becoming active ones...especially beginners.
> Hard-ass responses on lists will contribute faster
> to the death of a programming language faster than
> poor marketing.
> 
> Not even Jobs had the right to be a hard-ass. He
> just couldn't find a way to mature sufficiently to
> find a way to lead towards his vision without
> destroying people along the way.  But he, and others,
> like it that way because it's easier than being
> discerning.
> 
> And Dave, and others like him... if you notice a question
> that requires empathy, why not just avoid answering it in
> the future.  That's the best response you could give
> in those situations.  If you're not going to help,
> just stay quiet.
> 
> Just as you can answer in any way you like, those can
> also post any perspective they like, even "CF is dead!"
> (or dying, or whatever.)
> 
> You guys make such a mountain out of a mole hill.
> 
> Grow up...
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] 
> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 5:37 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices
> 
> 
> its hard to show empathy when people are rude and insult you simply
> because they don't like the answer or the fact that you don't agree
> with them. These people should try getting married then they will
> quickly learn that sometimes oyu must bite the bullet and admit your
> wrong even if you think your right :-)
> I think Dave has earned the right to be a hard-ass occasionally given
> the amount of help he gives others on here.
> 
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Rick Faircloth
>  wrote:
>> 
>> "The 'correct' answer is the one you get"... wrong.
>> 
>> It's almost never the one you get, whether technically
>> or psychologically.
>> 
>> It's easy just to be a hard-ass all the time. I know from
>> personal experience. It's more difficult to show empathy
>> when it's needed, rather than try to rebut someone's
>> personal perspective, which cannot usually be proven wrong.
>> 
>> People who mature learn to tell the difference
>> and act appropriately.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
>> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 1:06 PM
>> To: cf-talk
>> Subject: Re: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices
>> 
>> 
>>> True, but I see almost no empathy when people are expressing broader
> issue
>> concerns rather than
>>> issues of a technical nature.  Therein lies the clue to the correct
>> response.
>> 
>> You want empathy? Go to a shrink or talk to your bartender.
>> 
>> On a free mailing list, the "correct" response is the one you get, not
>> the one you want. And these "broader issue concerns" typically don't
>> have any positive resolution, have been brought up countless times,
>> etc, etc. Saying "CF is dying" on a CF technical list isn't really an
>> appropriate statement for the list. And of course, it always turns out
>> that CF is dying because you don't like what Adobe is doing with it,
>> which is beyond the control of everyone on the list - whether you
>> agree with it or not. You know, I think it would actually be OK if
>> someone asked how to help CF, but that's never what these "concerns"
>> are about. It's all about your dislike for Adobe's marketing plan, or
>> pricing, or whatever. Well, this is not the place for that.
>> 
>>> Sometimes the technician, sometimes the counselor.
>> 
>> No one pays me to be a counselor. On here, no one pays me to be a
>> technician either, so I reserve the right to answer questions as I see
>> fit.
>> 
>> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
>> http://www.figleaf.com/
>> http://training.figleaf.com/
>> 
>> Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
>> GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
>> instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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RE: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices

[Rick Faircloth]

No one has the right to be a hard-ass, I don't
care how much they've helped.  That kind of attitude
towards people only convinces passive participants
from becoming active ones...especially beginners.
Hard-ass responses on lists will contribute faster
to the death of a programming language faster than
poor marketing.

Not even Jobs had the right to be a hard-ass. He
just couldn't find a way to mature sufficiently to
find a way to lead towards his vision without
destroying people along the way.  But he, and others,
like it that way because it's easier than being
discerning.

And Dave, and others like him... if you notice a question
that requires empathy, why not just avoid answering it in
the future.  That's the best response you could give
in those situations.  If you're not going to help,
just stay quiet.

Just as you can answer in any way you like, those can
also post any perspective they like, even "CF is dead!"
(or dying, or whatever.)

You guys make such a mountain out of a mole hill.

Grow up...


-Original Message-
From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] 
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 5:37 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices


its hard to show empathy when people are rude and insult you simply
because they don't like the answer or the fact that you don't agree
with them. These people should try getting married then they will
quickly learn that sometimes oyu must bite the bullet and admit your
wrong even if you think your right :-)
I think Dave has earned the right to be a hard-ass occasionally given
the amount of help he gives others on here.

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Rick Faircloth
 wrote:
>
> "The 'correct' answer is the one you get"... wrong.
>
> It's almost never the one you get, whether technically
> or psychologically.
>
> It's easy just to be a hard-ass all the time. I know from
> personal experience. It's more difficult to show empathy
> when it's needed, rather than try to rebut someone's
> personal perspective, which cannot usually be proven wrong.
>
> People who mature learn to tell the difference
> and act appropriately.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 1:06 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices
>
>
>> True, but I see almost no empathy when people are expressing broader
issue
> concerns rather than
>> issues of a technical nature.  Therein lies the clue to the correct
> response.
>
> You want empathy? Go to a shrink or talk to your bartender.
>
> On a free mailing list, the "correct" response is the one you get, not
> the one you want. And these "broader issue concerns" typically don't
> have any positive resolution, have been brought up countless times,
> etc, etc. Saying "CF is dying" on a CF technical list isn't really an
> appropriate statement for the list. And of course, it always turns out
> that CF is dying because you don't like what Adobe is doing with it,
> which is beyond the control of everyone on the list - whether you
> agree with it or not. You know, I think it would actually be OK if
> someone asked how to help CF, but that's never what these "concerns"
> are about. It's all about your dislike for Adobe's marketing plan, or
> pricing, or whatever. Well, this is not the place for that.
>
>> Sometimes the technician, sometimes the counselor.
>
> No one pays me to be a counselor. On here, no one pays me to be a
> technician either, so I reserve the right to answer questions as I see
> fit.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> http://training.figleaf.com/
>
> Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
> GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite
>
>
>
> 



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Re: Manual install ODBC services ColdFusion MX7

[Leigh]

> What are the actual column names in the insert?

Never mind. I skimmed and missed it.  There might be others, but I am guessing 
the "Year" column is the culprit.  Try escaping it with square brackets  ie 
[Year]

-Le

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Re: Manual install ODBC services ColdFusion MX7

[Leigh]

> but all I get is "Syntax error in INSERT INTO statement"..

Usually that means the query is using a reserved word.  The reserved words seem 
to be different between the odbc and unicode drivers. IIRC, "password" is one 
example. It works under odbc, but fails under the unicode driver. I have seen 
that one a lot on the adobe forums.  


What are the actual column names in the insert?

 
-Le

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Re: Manual install ODBC services ColdFusion MX7

[Greg Morphis]

Yeah, see my other post.. I can't get a simple insert to work from CF

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Leigh  wrote:

>
> Not to discourage you from switching, but was there a reason you could not
> just use the access unicode driver?
>
>
> -Leig
>
> 

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Re: cfajax error

[Russ Michaels]

you can use the ODBC socket option instead, if you google then you
should be able to find some examples.
However I think the easiest and best solution would be to use the
Access Upside wizard to convert to SQL Server, Microsoft also provide
some free migration and upgrade tools to do the job as well.

http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=26709


On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Greg Morphis  wrote:
>
> So apparently the problem is within the Microsoft Access with Unicode
> driver..
> However we don't have the ODBC service installed on production.
> I googled manually installing it and it mentioned some SequeLink folder in
> the db directory..
> There's no DB folder or a SequeLink folder..
> How can I download these files and set up this service?
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Dave Watts  wrote:
>
>>
>> > No, date_taken is 11/11/2011
>>
>> Sorry, I didn't even see the first item in the VALUES list.
>>
>> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
>> http://www.figleaf.com/
>> http://training.figleaf.com/
>>
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>> GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
>> instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
>>
>>
>
> 

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Re: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices

[Russ Michaels]

its hard to show empathy when people are rude and insult you simply
because they don't like the answer or the fact that you don't agree
with them. These people should try getting married then they will
quickly learn that sometimes oyu must bite the bullet and admit your
wrong even if you think your right :-)
I think Dave has earned the right to be a hard-ass occasionally given
the amount of help he gives others on here.

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Rick Faircloth
 wrote:
>
> "The 'correct' answer is the one you get"... wrong.
>
> It's almost never the one you get, whether technically
> or psychologically.
>
> It's easy just to be a hard-ass all the time. I know from
> personal experience. It's more difficult to show empathy
> when it's needed, rather than try to rebut someone's
> personal perspective, which cannot usually be proven wrong.
>
> People who mature learn to tell the difference
> and act appropriately.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 1:06 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices
>
>
>> True, but I see almost no empathy when people are expressing broader issue
> concerns rather than
>> issues of a technical nature.  Therein lies the clue to the correct
> response.
>
> You want empathy? Go to a shrink or talk to your bartender.
>
> On a free mailing list, the "correct" response is the one you get, not
> the one you want. And these "broader issue concerns" typically don't
> have any positive resolution, have been brought up countless times,
> etc, etc. Saying "CF is dying" on a CF technical list isn't really an
> appropriate statement for the list. And of course, it always turns out
> that CF is dying because you don't like what Adobe is doing with it,
> which is beyond the control of everyone on the list - whether you
> agree with it or not. You know, I think it would actually be OK if
> someone asked how to help CF, but that's never what these "concerns"
> are about. It's all about your dislike for Adobe's marketing plan, or
> pricing, or whatever. Well, this is not the place for that.
>
>> Sometimes the technician, sometimes the counselor.
>
> No one pays me to be a counselor. On here, no one pays me to be a
> technician either, so I reserve the right to answer questions as I see
> fit.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> http://training.figleaf.com/
>
> Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
> GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite
>
>
>
> 

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RE: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices

[Rick Faircloth]

No, I think you are probably just unable or unwilling
to allow people to vent.  You probably don't do it personally
very often and despise people who do.

Steve Jobs was that way, and his employees are better
off now that he's dead. They admired his work, but hated
him personally.  He'd rather run over a person with his
car than show empathy towards another human being. He was
a great technician, but a terrible human being.

He believed that the only "correct" response was the one
he gave, and he always reserved the right to answer questions
the way he saw fit, whether it was destroying another human
being or not.

Too bad he never grew up to see more important issues in life,
as has Bill Gates, who now spends a lot of time and money
trying to make the world a better place and enable the people
in it to live a better life.

One can be a technician and a counselor at the same time; it
just takes more maturity than most people can develop in a
lifetime.


-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 1:06 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices


> True, but I see almost no empathy when people are expressing broader issue
concerns rather than
> issues of a technical nature.  Therein lies the clue to the correct
response.

You want empathy? Go to a shrink or talk to your bartender.

On a free mailing list, the "correct" response is the one you get, not
the one you want. And these "broader issue concerns" typically don't
have any positive resolution, have been brought up countless times,
etc, etc. Saying "CF is dying" on a CF technical list isn't really an
appropriate statement for the list. And of course, it always turns out
that CF is dying because you don't like what Adobe is doing with it,
which is beyond the control of everyone on the list - whether you
agree with it or not. You know, I think it would actually be OK if
someone asked how to help CF, but that's never what these "concerns"
are about. It's all about your dislike for Adobe's marketing plan, or
pricing, or whatever. Well, this is not the place for that.

> Sometimes the technician, sometimes the counselor.

No one pays me to be a counselor. On here, no one pays me to be a
technician either, so I reserve the right to answer questions as I see
fit.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite



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RE: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices

[Rick Faircloth]

"The 'correct' answer is the one you get"... wrong.

It's almost never the one you get, whether technically
or psychologically.

It's easy just to be a hard-ass all the time. I know from
personal experience. It's more difficult to show empathy
when it's needed, rather than try to rebut someone's
personal perspective, which cannot usually be proven wrong.

People who mature learn to tell the difference
and act appropriately.


-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 1:06 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices


> True, but I see almost no empathy when people are expressing broader issue
concerns rather than
> issues of a technical nature.  Therein lies the clue to the correct
response.

You want empathy? Go to a shrink or talk to your bartender.

On a free mailing list, the "correct" response is the one you get, not
the one you want. And these "broader issue concerns" typically don't
have any positive resolution, have been brought up countless times,
etc, etc. Saying "CF is dying" on a CF technical list isn't really an
appropriate statement for the list. And of course, it always turns out
that CF is dying because you don't like what Adobe is doing with it,
which is beyond the control of everyone on the list - whether you
agree with it or not. You know, I think it would actually be OK if
someone asked how to help CF, but that's never what these "concerns"
are about. It's all about your dislike for Adobe's marketing plan, or
pricing, or whatever. Well, this is not the place for that.

> Sometimes the technician, sometimes the counselor.

No one pays me to be a counselor. On here, no one pays me to be a
technician either, so I reserve the right to answer questions as I see
fit.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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RE: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices

[Rick Faircloth]

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 1:06 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices


> True, but I see almost no empathy when people are expressing broader issue
concerns rather than
> issues of a technical nature.  Therein lies the clue to the correct
response.

You want empathy? Go to a shrink or talk to your bartender.

On a free mailing list, the "correct" response is the one you get, not
the one you want. And these "broader issue concerns" typically don't
have any positive resolution, have been brought up countless times,
etc, etc. Saying "CF is dying" on a CF technical list isn't really an
appropriate statement for the list. And of course, it always turns out
that CF is dying because you don't like what Adobe is doing with it,
which is beyond the control of everyone on the list - whether you
agree with it or not. You know, I think it would actually be OK if
someone asked how to help CF, but that's never what these "concerns"
are about. It's all about your dislike for Adobe's marketing plan, or
pricing, or whatever. Well, this is not the place for that.

> Sometimes the technician, sometimes the counselor.

No one pays me to be a counselor. On here, no one pays me to be a
technician either, so I reserve the right to answer questions as I see
fit.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite



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Re: Manual install ODBC services ColdFusion MX7

[Leigh]

Not to discourage you from switching, but was there a reason you could not just 
use the access unicode driver? 

 
-Leig

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Re: Manual install ODBC services ColdFusion MX7

[Greg Morphis]

Screw Access.. I'm creating the tables in Oracle and exporting the data..
I'll deal with fixing the queries..

Thanks for all of your help guys!

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Greg Morphis  wrote:

> it installed but installed incorrectly..
> The bin folder is in slserver54 but the service points to slserver52..
> I modified the registry to point to slserver54 but get an error when
> trying to launch the service..
> something like 'could not start the service, no error was returned, if you
> continue to experience this contact your system administrator'
>
> I'm copying the db folder from CF8 and will try again, I don't know what
> else to do.
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Dave Watts  wrote:
>
>>
>> > I'm trying to follow this page:
>> >
>> > http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/191/tn_19135.html
>> >
>> > However the directory doesn't exist on our production server..
>> > I copied it from our dev directory to prod..
>>
>> Which directory, exactly, doesn't exist on your production server?
>>
>> > The page mentions running a CF template:
>> >
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > > > arguments='!TargetDir="#cfusionHome#" !DoDNS=true'>
>> > > > ="HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Macromedia\Install Data\ColdFusion MX"
>> >  entry="SqlLink"type="String"
>> > value="#cfusionHome#\db\slserver54">
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Error Occurred:
>> > #cfcatch.message##cfcatch.detail#
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> >
>> > Is there a way I can manually run the setup in a command line to get the
>> > same results?
>> >
>> > Double clicking on setup.exe yields an Install Shield that never goes
>> away
>>
>> Sure. Navigate to the directory in question, then type 'setup.exe
>> !TargetDir="your_cf_directory_goes_here" !DoDNS=true'. At least,
>> that's what it looks like it should be to me.
>>
>> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
>> http://www.figleaf.com/
>> http://training.figleaf.com/
>>
>> Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
>> GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
>> instruction at our training centers, online,
>>
>> 

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Re: Manual install ODBC services ColdFusion MX7

[Greg Morphis]

it installed but installed incorrectly..
The bin folder is in slserver54 but the service points to slserver52..
I modified the registry to point to slserver54 but get an error when trying
to launch the service..
something like 'could not start the service, no error was returned, if you
continue to experience this contact your system administrator'

I'm copying the db folder from CF8 and will try again, I don't know what
else to do.




On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Dave Watts  wrote:

>
> > I'm trying to follow this page:
> >
> > http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/191/tn_19135.html
> >
> > However the directory doesn't exist on our production server..
> > I copied it from our dev directory to prod..
>
> Which directory, exactly, doesn't exist on your production server?
>
> > The page mentions running a CF template:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  > arguments='!TargetDir="#cfusionHome#" !DoDNS=true'>
> >  > ="HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Macromedia\Install Data\ColdFusion MX"
> >  entry="SqlLink"type="String"
> > value="#cfusionHome#\db\slserver54">
> > 
> > 
> > Error Occurred:
> > #cfcatch.message##cfcatch.detail#
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
> > Is there a way I can manually run the setup in a command line to get the
> > same results?
> >
> > Double clicking on setup.exe yields an Install Shield that never goes
> away
>
> Sure. Navigate to the directory in question, then type 'setup.exe
> !TargetDir="your_cf_directory_goes_here" !DoDNS=true'. At least,
> that's what it looks like it should be to me.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> http://training.figleaf.com/
>
> Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
> GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> instruction at our training centers, online,
>
> 

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Re: Manual install ODBC services ColdFusion MX7

[Dave Watts]

> I'm trying to follow this page:
>
> http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/191/tn_19135.html
>
> However the directory doesn't exist on our production server..
> I copied it from our dev directory to prod..

Which directory, exactly, doesn't exist on your production server?

> The page mentions running a CF template:
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  arguments='!TargetDir="#cfusionHome#" !DoDNS=true'>
>  ="HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Macromedia\Install Data\ColdFusion MX"
>  entry="SqlLink"    type="String"
> value="#cfusionHome#\db\slserver54">
> 
> 
> Error Occurred:
> #cfcatch.message##cfcatch.detail#
> 
> 
> 
>
> Is there a way I can manually run the setup in a command line to get the
> same results?
>
> Double clicking on setup.exe yields an Install Shield that never goes away

Sure. Navigate to the directory in question, then type 'setup.exe
!TargetDir="your_cf_directory_goes_here" !DoDNS=true'. At least,
that's what it looks like it should be to me.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
instruction at our training centers, online, 

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Manual install ODBC services ColdFusion MX7

[Greg Morphis]

I'm trying to follow this page:

http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/191/tn_19135.html

However the directory doesn't exist on our production server..
I copied it from our dev directory to prod..
The page mentions running a CF template:









Error Occurred:
#cfcatch.message##cfcatch.detail#




Is there a way I can manually run the setup in a command line to get the
same results?

Double clicking on setup.exe yields an Install Shield that never goes away

Thanks in advance


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Re: Printing barcodes

[andy]

Keith
Would you mind sharing the code to create the pdf?  I am working on the same 
problem and haven't got a workable solution yet.

Andy
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Subject: Re: Printing barcodes [spamtrap bayes][spamtrap heur]
Sent: Nov 11, 2011 2:15 PM


Found the solution

http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/405/kb405588.html




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RE: Printing barcodes

[Bobby Hartsfield]

Thanks for pointing out your own solution. I hope to play around with
barcodes soon.

.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
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Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 2:15 PM
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Subject: Re: Printing barcodes


Found the solution

http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/405/kb405588.html




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Re: Printing barcodes

[Keith McGee]

Found the solution

http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/405/kb405588.html


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Re: cfajax error

[Greg Morphis]

So apparently the problem is within the Microsoft Access with Unicode
driver..
However we don't have the ODBC service installed on production.
I googled manually installing it and it mentioned some SequeLink folder in
the db directory..
There's no DB folder or a SequeLink folder..
How can I download these files and set up this service?




On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Dave Watts  wrote:

>
> > No, date_taken is 11/11/2011
>
> Sorry, I didn't even see the first item in the VALUES list.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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>
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> GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
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>
> 

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Re: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices

[Judah McAuley]

On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Dave Watts  wrote:
>
> Perhaps he's alone because he didn't ask anyone to help him. Did you
> volunteer to help him? I think Judah did in this very thread, so maybe
> the queue will move a bit faster.

That was actually .jonah (easy to get us confused) but I'll volunteer
as well and ping Ray offlist. Just to further confuse everyone :)

Cheers,
Judah

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Re: cfajax error

[Steve Milburn]

Have you tried to quote the last item in the values list (the year)?
Depending on how that is defined in the database, it may require quotes.

Instead of:
#year(foodate)#

Try:
'#year(foodate)#'

HTH
Steve

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Greg Morphis  wrote:

>
> Same error.. WTH?
> foodate is today.. 11/11/2011
>
>
> Error Executing Database Query. Syntax error in INSERT INTO statement.
> The
> error occurred in
>
> *C:\JRun4\servers\cfusion\cfusion-ear\cfusion-war\Production\TWST\time_off_save.cfm:
> line 53*
>
> 51 :
>  '#session.user.employee_id#',
> 52 :
>  #createodbcdate(now())#,
> *53 :   #year(foodate)#*
> 54 :)
> 55 :
>
> --
> SQLINSERT INTO time_taken ( time_off_id, employee_id, date_taken,
> notes, actionuser, actiondate, year ) VALUES ( 'VV', 'e0012345', {d
> '2011-11-11'}, '', 'e0012345', {d '2011-11-11'}, 2011 ) DATASOURCE
>  blurred_text
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Greg Morphis  wrote:
>


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Re: Printing barcodes

[Keith McGee]

This is how I'm adding the bar code #LICENSE_PARAMETER# 

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Printing barcodes

[Keith McGee]

I am creating 4 x 4 labels pdf files, storing them on the server, printing them 
to a zebra label printer, then deleting the files. I'm using a window font; Bar 
code 39 a, bar code 39 a hr, up to f. The program is creating the labels fine 
with the bar code.

when I print them with  the label prints with out the bar 
code.

But if I open the pdf and print it manual the bar code prints.

Any Ideas? 

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Re: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices

[Dave Watts]

> though now that has me wondering if dave could be paid to wear a black beret 
> set
> at a rakish angle?

As a consultant, I can be paid to do almost anything. Almost.

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Re: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices

[Paul Hastings]

On 11/12/2011 1:05 AM, Dave Watts wrote:
> No one pays me to be a counselor. On here, no one pays me to be a
> technician either, so I reserve the right to answer questions as I see
> fit.

though now that has me wondering if dave could be paid to wear a black beret 
set 
at a rakish angle?


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Re: cfajax error

[Dave Watts]

> No, date_taken is 11/11/2011

Sorry, I didn't even see the first item in the VALUES list.

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Re: cfajax error

[Greg Morphis]

Same error.. WTH?
foodate is today.. 11/11/2011


Error Executing Database Query. Syntax error in INSERT INTO statement.   The
error occurred in
*C:\JRun4\servers\cfusion\cfusion-ear\cfusion-war\Production\TWST\time_off_save.cfm:
line 53*

51 :
'#session.user.employee_id#',
52 :#createodbcdate(now())#,
*53 :   #year(foodate)#*
54 :)
55 :

--
SQLINSERT INTO time_taken ( time_off_id, employee_id, date_taken,
notes, actionuser, actiondate, year ) VALUES ( 'VV', 'e0012345', {d
'2011-11-11'}, '', 'e0012345', {d '2011-11-11'}, 2011 ) DATASOURCE
  blurred_text
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Greg Morphis  wrote:

> No, date_taken is 11/11/2011
>
> I'll try the createodbcdateformat()..
> I've never had to use that with Oracle so it's something else to try
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Dave Watts  wrote:
>
>>
>> > INSERT INTO time_taken ( time_off_id, employee_id, date_taken, notes,
>> > actionuser, actiondate, year ) VALUES ( 'VV', 'e0012345', 11/11/2011,
>> '',
>> > 'e0012345', now(), 2011 )
>>
>> The field date_taken is a Date/Time field, right? You're inserting an
>> empty string, not a Date/Time value.
>>
>> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
>> http://www.figleaf.com/
>> http://training.figleaf.com/
>>
>> Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
>> GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
>> instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
>>
>> 

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Re: cfajax error

[Greg Morphis]

No, date_taken is 11/11/2011

I'll try the createodbcdateformat()..
I've never had to use that with Oracle so it's something else to try

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Dave Watts  wrote:

>
> > INSERT INTO time_taken ( time_off_id, employee_id, date_taken, notes,
> > actionuser, actiondate, year ) VALUES ( 'VV', 'e0012345', 11/11/2011, '',
> > 'e0012345', now(), 2011 )
>
> The field date_taken is a Date/Time field, right? You're inserting an
> empty string, not a Date/Time value.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> http://training.figleaf.com/
>
> Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
> GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
>
> 

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Re: cfajax error

[Dave Watts]

> INSERT INTO time_taken ( time_off_id, employee_id, date_taken, notes,
> actionuser, actiondate, year ) VALUES ( 'VV', 'e0012345', 11/11/2011, '',
> 'e0012345', now(), 2011 )

The field date_taken is a Date/Time field, right? You're inserting an
empty string, not a Date/Time value.

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Re: cfajax error

[Claude Schnéegans]

 >>dateformat(foodate,'mm/dd/')

Here is your problem: use CeateODBCDateFormat instead:
#CeateODBCDateFormat(foodate)#

Also #CeateODBCDateFormat(now())#

Furthermore, this will work provided foodate always contains a valid date.
If it is empty, it will cause an error.
In this case, you have to check if foodate is a date, return CreateODBCDate if 
yes, and null if not.

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Re: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices

[Dave Watts]

> True, but I see almost no empathy when people are expressing broader issue 
> concerns rather than
> issues of a technical nature.  Therein lies the clue to the correct response.

You want empathy? Go to a shrink or talk to your bartender.

On a free mailing list, the "correct" response is the one you get, not
the one you want. And these "broader issue concerns" typically don't
have any positive resolution, have been brought up countless times,
etc, etc. Saying "CF is dying" on a CF technical list isn't really an
appropriate statement for the list. And of course, it always turns out
that CF is dying because you don't like what Adobe is doing with it,
which is beyond the control of everyone on the list - whether you
agree with it or not. You know, I think it would actually be OK if
someone asked how to help CF, but that's never what these "concerns"
are about. It's all about your dislike for Adobe's marketing plan, or
pricing, or whatever. Well, this is not the place for that.

> Sometimes the technician, sometimes the counselor.

No one pays me to be a counselor. On here, no one pays me to be a
technician either, so I reserve the right to answer questions as I see
fit.

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Re: cfajax error

[Greg Morphis]

And time_taken looks like this
time_off_id   Text
employee_id  Text
date_takenDate/Time
notes   Text
approvedon   Date/Time
approvedby   Text
actionuserText
actiondate   Date/Time
year   Number

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Greg Morphis  wrote:

> I'm good.. I just need help understanding how to do dates in MSAccess...
>
> 
>
> 
> INSERT INTO time_taken
> (
> time_off_id,
> employee_id,
> date_taken,
> notes,
> 
> approvedon,
> approvedby,
> 
> actionuser,
> actiondate,
> year
> )
> VALUES
> (
> '#form.time_off_id#',
> '#form.employee_id#',
> #dateformat(foodate,'mm/dd/')#,
> '#form.notes#',
> 
> now(),
> '#session.user.employee_id#',
> 
> '#session.user.employee_id#',
> now(),
> #year(foodate)#
> )
> 
>
> 
> INSERT INTO time_taken ( time_off_id, employee_id, date_taken, notes,
> actionuser, actiondate, year ) VALUES ( 'VV', 'e0012345', 11/11/2011, '',
> 'e0012345', now(), 2011 )
>
>
> Error Executing Database Query. Syntax error in INSERT INTO statement.  The
> error occurred in 
> *C:\JRun4\servers\cfusion\cfusion-ear\cfusion-war\Production\TWST\time_off_save.cfm:
> line 53*
>
> 51 :  
> '#session.user.employee_id#',
> 52 :  now(),*53 : 
> #year(foodate)#*
> 54 :  )
> 55 :  
>
> --
> SQLINSERT INTO time_taken ( time_off_id, employee_id, date_taken,
> notes, actionuser, actiondate, year ) VALUES ( 'VV', 'e0012345',
> 11/11/2011, '', 'e0018207', now(), 2011 ) DATASOURCE  blurred_text
> VENDORERRORCODE  3092 SQLSTATE    Resources:
>
>- Check the ColdFusion docume
>
>
>
>
> For the love of whatever is up there.. please help if you can.. I tried
> removing every  manually add the date with the query that is generated.
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Russ Michaels wrote:
>
>>
>> got a url so we can take a look ?
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Rick Faircloth
>>  wrote:
>> >
>> > What about setting up some alerts with your AJAX variables
>> > or using console.log in firebug for the variables to make sure they are
>> > all what your are expecting?
>> >
>> > I find I have to use multiple techniques to debug apps before
>> > tracking down a problem.
>> >
>> > hth,
>> >
>> > Rick
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Greg Morphis [mailto:gmorp...@gmail.com]
>> > Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 11:01 AM
>> > To: cf-talk
>> > Subject: Re: cfajax error
>> >
>> >
>> > Hmm the only error Firebug shows is the same oForm.auto_approve is
>> > indefined..
>> > it shows a POST to the ajaxfunctions.cfc and it's OK
>> > I looked at the response and I see what looks like what you'd see with
>> CF
>> > debugging turned on, I see the query buried in the response and that
>> looks
>> > okay.. Maybe I'm doing something wrong in Firebug though, I haven't
>> used it
>> > much.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Dave Watts  wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> > I was tasked in moving an old app on a CF8 server to a CF7 server.
>> The
>> >> app
>> >> > has some cfajax code that I'm not familiar with. I'm hoping someone
>> here
>> >> > has seen the error..
>> >>
>> >> If it's actually making an AJAX call, use something like Firebug to
>> >> view the returned value, and you might see your error immediately. My
>> >> guess is that the function is returning invalid data of some sort,
>> >> which is why it's running successfully but the code that calls the
>> >> function is failing.
>> >>
>> >> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
>> >> http://www.figleaf.com/
>> >> http://training.figleaf.com/
>> >>
>> >> Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
>> >> GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
>> >> instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> 

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Re: cfajax error

[Greg Morphis]

I'm good.. I just need help understanding how to do dates in MSAccess...




INSERT INTO time_taken
(
time_off_id,
employee_id,
date_taken,
notes,

approvedon,
approvedby,

actionuser,
actiondate,
year
)
VALUES
(
'#form.time_off_id#',
'#form.employee_id#',
#dateformat(foodate,'mm/dd/')#,
'#form.notes#',

now(),
'#session.user.employee_id#',

'#session.user.employee_id#',
now(),
#year(foodate)#
)



INSERT INTO time_taken ( time_off_id, employee_id, date_taken, notes,
actionuser, actiondate, year ) VALUES ( 'VV', 'e0012345', 11/11/2011, '',
'e0012345', now(), 2011 )


Error Executing Database Query. Syntax error in INSERT INTO statement.  The
error occurred in
*C:\JRun4\servers\cfusion\cfusion-ear\cfusion-war\Production\TWST\time_off_save.cfm:
line 53*

51 :
'#session.user.employee_id#',
52 :now(),*53 : 
#year(foodate)#*
54 :)
55 :

--
SQLINSERT INTO time_taken ( time_off_id, employee_id, date_taken,
notes, actionuser, actiondate, year ) VALUES ( 'VV', 'e0012345',
11/11/2011, '', 'e0018207', now(), 2011 ) DATASOURCE  blurred_text
VENDORERRORCODE  3092 SQLSTATE    Resources:

   - Check the ColdFusion docume




For the love of whatever is up there.. please help if you can.. I tried
removing every  wrote:

>
> got a url so we can take a look ?
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Rick Faircloth
>  wrote:
> >
> > What about setting up some alerts with your AJAX variables
> > or using console.log in firebug for the variables to make sure they are
> > all what your are expecting?
> >
> > I find I have to use multiple techniques to debug apps before
> > tracking down a problem.
> >
> > hth,
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Greg Morphis [mailto:gmorp...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 11:01 AM
> > To: cf-talk
> > Subject: Re: cfajax error
> >
> >
> > Hmm the only error Firebug shows is the same oForm.auto_approve is
> > indefined..
> > it shows a POST to the ajaxfunctions.cfc and it's OK
> > I looked at the response and I see what looks like what you'd see with CF
> > debugging turned on, I see the query buried in the response and that
> looks
> > okay.. Maybe I'm doing something wrong in Firebug though, I haven't used
> it
> > much.
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Dave Watts  wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> > I was tasked in moving an old app on a CF8 server to a CF7 server. The
> >> app
> >> > has some cfajax code that I'm not familiar with. I'm hoping someone
> here
> >> > has seen the error..
> >>
> >> If it's actually making an AJAX call, use something like Firebug to
> >> view the returned value, and you might see your error immediately. My
> >> guess is that the function is returning invalid data of some sort,
> >> which is why it's running successfully but the code that calls the
> >> function is failing.
> >>
> >> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> >> http://www.figleaf.com/
> >> http://training.figleaf.com/
> >>
> >> Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
> >> GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> >> instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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RE: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices

[Rick Faircloth]

True, but I see almost no empathy when people
are expressing broader issue concerns rather than
issues of a technical nature.  Therein lies the
clue to the correct response.

Sometimes the technician, sometimes the counselor.


-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 12:10 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices


> Sometimes people just need to vent and not be corrected,
> and to have someone not necessarily say, "I agree", but
> "I understand where you're coming from."  Agree as much as
> you can, then let the rest go.

There is a time and a place for everything, I guess, but perhaps a
technical list is not the appropriate place to expect that you can
vent without being corrected when you're wrong.

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http://training.figleaf.com/

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Re: cfajax error

[Russ Michaels]

got a url so we can take a look ?


On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Rick Faircloth
 wrote:
>
> What about setting up some alerts with your AJAX variables
> or using console.log in firebug for the variables to make sure they are
> all what your are expecting?
>
> I find I have to use multiple techniques to debug apps before
> tracking down a problem.
>
> hth,
>
> Rick
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Greg Morphis [mailto:gmorp...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 11:01 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: cfajax error
>
>
> Hmm the only error Firebug shows is the same oForm.auto_approve is
> indefined..
> it shows a POST to the ajaxfunctions.cfc and it's OK
> I looked at the response and I see what looks like what you'd see with CF
> debugging turned on, I see the query buried in the response and that looks
> okay.. Maybe I'm doing something wrong in Firebug though, I haven't used it
> much.
>
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Dave Watts  wrote:
>
>>
>> > I was tasked in moving an old app on a CF8 server to a CF7 server. The
>> app
>> > has some cfajax code that I'm not familiar with. I'm hoping someone here
>> > has seen the error..
>>
>> If it's actually making an AJAX call, use something like Firebug to
>> view the returned value, and you might see your error immediately. My
>> guess is that the function is returning invalid data of some sort,
>> which is why it's running successfully but the code that calls the
>> function is failing.
>>
>> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
>> http://www.figleaf.com/
>> http://training.figleaf.com/
>>
>> Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
>> GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
>> instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
>>
>>
>
>
>
> 

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RE: cfajax error

[Rick Faircloth]

What about setting up some alerts with your AJAX variables
or using console.log in firebug for the variables to make sure they are
all what your are expecting?

I find I have to use multiple techniques to debug apps before
tracking down a problem.

hth,

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Greg Morphis [mailto:gmorp...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 11:01 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: cfajax error


Hmm the only error Firebug shows is the same oForm.auto_approve is
indefined..
it shows a POST to the ajaxfunctions.cfc and it's OK
I looked at the response and I see what looks like what you'd see with CF
debugging turned on, I see the query buried in the response and that looks
okay.. Maybe I'm doing something wrong in Firebug though, I haven't used it
much.

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Dave Watts  wrote:

>
> > I was tasked in moving an old app on a CF8 server to a CF7 server. The
> app
> > has some cfajax code that I'm not familiar with. I'm hoping someone here
> > has seen the error..
>
> If it's actually making an AJAX call, use something like Firebug to
> view the returned value, and you might see your error immediately. My
> guess is that the function is returning invalid data of some sort,
> which is why it's running successfully but the code that calls the
> function is failing.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> http://training.figleaf.com/
>
> Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
> GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
>
> 



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Re: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices

[Dave Watts]

> Sometimes people just need to vent and not be corrected,
> and to have someone not necessarily say, "I agree", but
> "I understand where you're coming from."  Agree as much as
> you can, then let the rest go.

There is a time and a place for everything, I guess, but perhaps a
technical list is not the appropriate place to expect that you can
vent without being corrected when you're wrong.

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http://training.figleaf.com/

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Re: cfajax error

[Greg Morphis]

I did that, and even have the reverse on the pages where I want to see the
debugging..
but all I get is "Syntax error in INSERT INTO statement"..
I hate Access!

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Russ Michaels  wrote:

>
> put a cfsetting tag at the top of your ajax pages to override debug
> out to NO, this will allow you to have debugging enabled on the server
> without breaking your ajax calls.
> --
>
> Russ Michaels
>
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>
> sky
>
> 

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RE: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices

[Rick Faircloth]

The problem here is that many on this list, demonstrate
what I'll term "list psychopathy"...

Many of the smartest people on the list don't understand the
difference between the need to be correct and the need to
empathize, which is a key aspect of psychopathy.

Sometimes people just need to vent and not be corrected,
and to have someone not necessarily say, "I agree", but
"I understand where you're coming from."  Agree as much as
you can, then let the rest go.

It was a hard lesson for me to learn, but people are not
programs, who attitudes can be "debugged" by making the
correct key strokes, or in this case, even perfectly correct
sociopathic arguments.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Will Swain [mailto:w...@hothorse.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 8:12 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices


You are very passive aggressive dude.

Which is a shame, as by taking that tack, and not actually responding to
Dave's points, you reinforce the troll image. 

-Original Message-
From: Irvin Gomez [mailto:ir...@pixel69.com] 
Sent: 11 November 2011 06:04
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices


> 
> I would never call you a trool. Because I have a spell-checker.

Childish.


> Perhaps I'm being ungenerous, but that kind of response from you 
> indicates to me that you don't take this seriously enough to engage 
> your brain cells and actually read what was written.

More childish attack.

>Which, you know,
> kind of makes you look like a trool after all, if you know what I  
>mean.

Even more childish.


>Anyway, to give you the benefit of the doubt, here's an  executive 
>summary of what I wrote, paragraph by paragraph.
> 
> 1. CFLib belongs to Ray.
> 

That doesn't mean he can't get help from the *assumed* CF community. He is
alone because the small community does not have new blood. New blood carries
the torch and keeps things moving. The 'old-timers' are too busy discussing
OOP concepts -which is their right. The problem is that the lack on new
blood will eventually kill CF - and that's the simple point I make.


> 2. Why are new tutorials needed, since CF's basic functionality hasn't 
> changed significantly?
> 

A cursory glance at how things stand today will show any objective observer
that a lot of those resources are obsolete, in need of re-vamping (lots of
new features have been introduced) or were deleted a long time ago.

> 3. There are plenty of beginner and intermediate questions on the list.
>

But how many lists are there? And how many questions in this list? In fact,
it could be argued that this list is perfect example of a stagnant
community. 
> 

> 4. People blog about their interests, not solely for promotional 
> reasons.
>

Once again, I'm not holding the small CF community responsible for anything.
Strawman argument. 


> 5. CF is a successful product.
>

That doesn't mean it is not dying slowly. Strawman argument.

 
> 6. The CF "community" is not composed solely of Adobe employees.
>

You love your straw man, don't you?

 
> 7. Your behavior looks like trolling, even if you're not a troll.
> 

More childish stuff.


> 8. If you want more evangelism, be an evangelist.
>

Strawman argument. I never said I wanted more 'evangelism". 

 
> So, out of those, there's one paragraph that mentions trolling, and 
> states you may well not be a troll. Given your apparent level of 
> reading comprehension, you might want to read these things more slowly 
> and carefully.
> 

More childish, dishonest attack - but it seems the norm with you.


> > In any case, why 10 years?
> Because people have been posting this crap here for ten years already.
> They were posting it when CF was called "Allaire Cold Fusion."
>

The way things are going, the ten years may not be necessary. But only time
will tell. Hope you're right, though. I hope Coldfusion remains a valid
option for many years to come. 






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Re: cfajax error

[Russ Michaels]

put a cfsetting tag at the top of your ajax pages to override debug
out to NO, this will allow you to have debugging enabled on the server
without breaking your ajax calls.
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Re: cfajax error

[Greg Morphis]

Ahh... I thought there might be some setting in the cfadmin to change that..
Cool, now I'm getting the same error as on production.. now to start
looking through logs.. thanks!

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Dave Watts  wrote:

>
> > Now, is there a way to turn off debugging for ajax response but leaving
> it
> > on for other things?
>
> Sure, you can do this on a per-page basis with CFSETTING.
>
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>
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Re: cfajax error

[Claude Schnéegans]

 >>Hmm the only error Firebug shows is the same oForm.auto_approve is
indefined..

The problem with Ajax is when there is an error in the template called by the 
function.
This causes an error in the application because it cannot find what is expected 
in the text returned by the template. Instead, the CF error output is returned.
What you need to see is the error displayed by the CF server, not the error 
that this display caused.

The solution is to debug the template by simulating the Ajax call and calling 
it directly by hand.

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Re: cfajax error

[Dave Watts]

> Now, is there a way to turn off debugging for ajax response but leaving it
> on for other things?

Sure, you can do this on a per-page basis with CFSETTING.

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Re: cfajax error

[Greg Morphis]

That would explain why it worked in Prod and gave a different error too..
holy crap, it's making sense..
Now, is there a way to turn off debugging for ajax response but leaving it
on for other things?

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Dave Watts  wrote:

>
> > I looked at the response and I see what looks like what you'd see with CF
> > debugging turned on, I see the query buried in the response and that
> looks
> > okay.. Maybe I'm doing something wrong in Firebug though, I haven't used
> it
> > much.
>
> That's probably the problem right there. If you have CF's server-side
> debugging enabled for AJAX responses, that'll cause the client-side
> parser not to be able to read them properly.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> http://training.figleaf.com/
>
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> GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
>
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Re: cfajax error

[Dave Watts]

> I looked at the response and I see what looks like what you'd see with CF
> debugging turned on, I see the query buried in the response and that looks
> okay.. Maybe I'm doing something wrong in Firebug though, I haven't used it
> much.

That's probably the problem right there. If you have CF's server-side
debugging enabled for AJAX responses, that'll cause the client-side
parser not to be able to read them properly.

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Re: cfajax error

[Greg Morphis]

Hmm the only error Firebug shows is the same oForm.auto_approve is
indefined..
it shows a POST to the ajaxfunctions.cfc and it's OK
I looked at the response and I see what looks like what you'd see with CF
debugging turned on, I see the query buried in the response and that looks
okay.. Maybe I'm doing something wrong in Firebug though, I haven't used it
much.

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Dave Watts  wrote:

>
> > I was tasked in moving an old app on a CF8 server to a CF7 server. The
> app
> > has some cfajax code that I'm not familiar with. I'm hoping someone here
> > has seen the error..
>
> If it's actually making an AJAX call, use something like Firebug to
> view the returned value, and you might see your error immediately. My
> guess is that the function is returning invalid data of some sort,
> which is why it's running successfully but the code that calls the
> function is failing.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> http://training.figleaf.com/
>
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> GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
>
> 

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Re: cfajax error

[Dave Watts]

> I was tasked in moving an old app on a CF8 server to a CF7 server. The app
> has some cfajax code that I'm not familiar with. I'm hoping someone here
> has seen the error..

If it's actually making an AJAX call, use something like Firebug to
view the returned value, and you might see your error immediately. My
guess is that the function is returning invalid data of some sort,
which is why it's running successfully but the code that calls the
function is failing.

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cfajax error

[Greg Morphis]

I was tasked in moving an old app on a CF8 server to a CF7 server. The app
has some cfajax code that I'm not familiar with. I'm hoping someone here
has seen the error..
This is most of an email I sent internally to the person who created in a
few years back but thought I'd also ask a larger crowd

The error message is a javascript popup and all it shows is:

*The page at localhost:8300 says: *
SyntaxError: Unexpected token <


This happens whenever you hit "Save" on the time_off page (when requesting
Time Off).
I've added some alerts in the code:

DWRUtil.useLoadingMessage("Checking for duplicate request...");

//alert(oForm.employee_id.value);
//alert(oForm.time_off_start_date.value);
//alert(oForm.time_off_end_date.value);

DWREngine._execute(_ajaxConfig._cfscriptLocation, null,
'getEmployeeTimeOff', oForm.employee_id.value,
oForm.time_off_start_date.value, oForm.time_off_end_date.value, true,
handleTimeOffDuplicateCheck);

//alert("getEmployeeTimeOff");

And all of the alerts go off, including the "getEmployeeTimeOff" alert.
I put an alert at the top of the handleTimeOffDuplicateCheck and it doesn't
run.
So it's not even making it to that function.

I thought maybe it's in that CF function getEmployeeTimeOff
so I changed it to static values..

SELECT tt.date_taken,
Format(tt.date_taken,'mm/dd/') as text_date_taken,
month(tt.date_taken) as date_taken_month,
tt.time_off_id,
toff.descr as time_off_descr
FROM time_taken tt
INNER JOIN time_off toff ON toff.time_off_id = tt.time_off_id
WHERE tt.employee_id = 'e0012345'
AND tt.deletedon is null
AND tt.date_taken >= 11/11/2011
AND tt.date_taken <= 11/11/2011
ORDER BY tt.date_taken

which runs in Access and returns 0 rows..
But when I try to add Time Off, same "Syntax <" error.

Then I put quotes around the dates knowing this is wrong and should give a
DB error.. and it does! Javascript error about types.
So it makes it to the CF function, that I assume THAT even works, and then
something happens coming back but where?
The alert in the Javascript function that should run on return, doesn't
run.. but if you throw in an error in the query, it errors..

In Chrome, I do see a couple JavaScript errors:
When choosing the person in the drop down it errors:
Uncaught TypeError: Cannot set property 'checked' of undefined

Which doesn't seem to affect anything.. it's still returns the employee.
The element it's referring to would only be there if you're an admin.

The error that bothers me is when you hit Save, it errors with:

Refused to set unsafe header "Referer"

but it makes it to CF fine, just not back.. I googled that yesterday and
nothing stood out.



I'm at my wits end and I don't know where else to look in the code. Was
something anything that had to be installed on the system? Anything you
guys can recommend, suggest, remember.. would be helpful.


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RE: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices

[Edward Chanter]

Hear! Hear!

This topic was boring 10 years ago and it's just as boring today.


> -Original Message-
> Someone is wrong on the Internet!
> Let's move on and let this thread die (until next year.)


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RE: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices

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Someone is wrong on the Internet!
Let's move on and let this thread die (until next year.)
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RE: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices

[Will Swain]

You are very passive aggressive dude.

Which is a shame, as by taking that tack, and not actually responding to
Dave's points, you reinforce the troll image. 

-Original Message-
From: Irvin Gomez [mailto:ir...@pixel69.com] 
Sent: 11 November 2011 06:04
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices


> 
> I would never call you a trool. Because I have a spell-checker.

Childish.


> Perhaps I'm being ungenerous, but that kind of response from you 
> indicates to me that you don't take this seriously enough to engage 
> your brain cells and actually read what was written.

More childish attack.

>Which, you know,
> kind of makes you look like a trool after all, if you know what I  
>mean.

Even more childish.


>Anyway, to give you the benefit of the doubt, here's an  executive 
>summary of what I wrote, paragraph by paragraph.
> 
> 1. CFLib belongs to Ray.
> 

That doesn't mean he can't get help from the *assumed* CF community. He is
alone because the small community does not have new blood. New blood carries
the torch and keeps things moving. The 'old-timers' are too busy discussing
OOP concepts -which is their right. The problem is that the lack on new
blood will eventually kill CF - and that's the simple point I make.


> 2. Why are new tutorials needed, since CF's basic functionality hasn't 
> changed significantly?
> 

A cursory glance at how things stand today will show any objective observer
that a lot of those resources are obsolete, in need of re-vamping (lots of
new features have been introduced) or were deleted a long time ago.

> 3. There are plenty of beginner and intermediate questions on the list.
>

But how many lists are there? And how many questions in this list? In fact,
it could be argued that this list is perfect example of a stagnant
community. 
> 

> 4. People blog about their interests, not solely for promotional 
> reasons.
>

Once again, I'm not holding the small CF community responsible for anything.
Strawman argument. 


> 5. CF is a successful product.
>

That doesn't mean it is not dying slowly. Strawman argument.

 
> 6. The CF "community" is not composed solely of Adobe employees.
>

You love your straw man, don't you?

 
> 7. Your behavior looks like trolling, even if you're not a troll.
> 

More childish stuff.


> 8. If you want more evangelism, be an evangelist.
>

Strawman argument. I never said I wanted more 'evangelism". 

 
> So, out of those, there's one paragraph that mentions trolling, and 
> states you may well not be a troll. Given your apparent level of 
> reading comprehension, you might want to read these things more slowly 
> and carefully.
> 

More childish, dishonest attack - but it seems the norm with you.


> > In any case, why 10 years?
> Because people have been posting this crap here for ten years already.
> They were posting it when CF was called "Allaire Cold Fusion."
>

The way things are going, the ten years may not be necessary. But only time
will tell. Hope you're right, though. I hope Coldfusion remains a valid
option for many years to come. 




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Re: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices

[Russ Michaels]

What I always find most annoying about this topic when it comes up is
the basis on what such claims are made, usually the person saying
ColdFusion is dead/dying has absolutely no evidence or research to
back this up, it is just their own opinion.

In order to have basis for such a claim you would need to be working
in a business that deals with ColdFusion in such a way that you are
aware of the number of people using ColdFusion and new customers
enquiring about ColdFusion. Just being a developer and using cf-talk
doesn't really fall into that category.
As I run a cfcommunity and work for a cf hosting co I do see how many
new users/customers come and go from those 2 perspectives, so I can
give some real world feedback on that and what I can say is that
things are pretty quiet on both fronts, not much new user activity, so
things are pretty stagnant.
We have also noticed recently that quite a few hosts are dropping
support for CF  as we have been getting a lot of their cast off's.
We have also noticed an increased number of customers migrating to
PHP, which mainly seems to be down to  they have been told by someone
else that CF is dead or because they wanted to use Wordpress.

Sure the community seems a bit dead these days, but this in itself
does not speak for ColdFusion.
It could simply mean there are not many new developers coming into the
world of CF or those that are have not joined CF-TALK or do not want
to because they don't like communities. Many folks don't join lists
like this because they don't want to get attacked by trolls and flame
baiter's  and shot down by so called GURU's for the way they code.
If I was a newbie to CF and joined this list, i'd probably
un-subscribe a week later and I bet a lot of the old members have gone
for the same reasons.

As for there being no resources for newbies, here are a few I know off
the top of my head.

1. livedocs.adobe.com
Plenty of good stuff right here in the docs for newbies
2. www.easycfm.com
3. The Adobe CF forums
4. www.cfmldeveloper.com
5. www.sitepoint.com - e.g http://www.sitepoint.com/cold-fusion-tutorial/

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