Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: I thought perhaps I could create a way to archive email that I receive and send. That's a real irritation, that I can't get my mail in conversational style that includes my sent messages. At least not in Outlook, that I'm aware of. I think newer versions of Outlook support conversation view. The latest on OSX does. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355422 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?
if you use Gmail/google apps then you get that as default. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: I thought perhaps I could create a way to archive email that I receive and send. That's a real irritation, that I can't get my mail in conversational style that includes my sent messages. At least not in Outlook, that I'm aware of. I think newer versions of Outlook support conversation view. The latest on OSX does. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355423 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
SSL on CFquery
Hi, We have a windows server for our CF application and a Linux server for our database. We are setting up a self-signed SSL between the two servers. Our hosting company have said we need to reference the SSL in the connection string but how can I do this in a cfquery? Many thanks Richard ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355424 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: SSL on CFquery
Do the following to enable SSL connection: 1. In the ColdFusion Administrator, go to Data Services Data Sources. 2. Select the data source to enable SSL Connection. 3. In the data source page, click Show Advanced Settings. 4. In the Connection String text box, specify the connection properties as per the SSL requirements. you can find detail son the connection properties here http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/9.0/Admin/WS50260aa90e50c24b-32f8955c122c2720693-8000.html On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Richard White rich...@re-base.net wrote: Hi, We have a windows server for our CF application and a Linux server for our database. We are setting up a self-signed SSL between the two servers. Our hosting company have said we need to reference the SSL in the connection string but how can I do this in a cfquery? Many thanks Richard ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355425 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: SSL on CFquery
Perfect! Many thanks Russ :) Do the following to enable SSL connection: 1. In the ColdFusion Administrator, go to Data Services Data Sources. 2. Select the data source to enable SSL Connection. 3. In the data source page, click Show Advanced Settings. 4. In the Connection String text box, specify the connection properties as per the SSL requirements. you can find detail son the connection properties here http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/9. 0/Admin/WS50260aa90e50c24b-32f8955c122c2720693-8000.html On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Richard White rich...@re-base.net wrote: Hi, We have a windows server for our CF application and a Linux server for our database. We are setting up a self-signed SSL between the two servers. Our hosting company have said we need to reference the SSL in the connection string but how can I do this in a cfquery? Many thanks Richard ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355426 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
CF 7/ Dreamweaver and Data Sources
Hi all, My setup is:- DW CS3 CF MX 7 Windows 7 WS Windows 2003 development server MS SQL 2000 database Local area network I am having a problem with DW CS3. A site I have used for some weeks has suddenly started misbehaving. When trying to access a CF 7 data source (SQL 2000, I know, it's old) binding I get :- In order to view the columns of this recordset, please associate the variable (#application.dsn#) with a data source. To do this, press the plus (+) button and choose Data Source Name Variable. When I try and associate my application.dsn with a data source none are seen in the drop down. I compared the site to another site which is working fine and I can't see any difference in the setup. I have cleared the site cache and removed the data connections from within DW. (menu, Site = Advanced) I tried completely recreating the site copying only the cfm files into a new directory. I tried removing the configs from the Appdata cache/config. I've used this set up for years, but that doesn't mean to say I haven't missed something obvious - very rusty. Any ideas as to what is wrong, please? Thanks, Jenny -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 10828 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355427 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?
I assume by conversation view you mean that also includes my replies? I have used the conventional conversation view that only show emails received within a grouping by conversation, but my replies still only go to my Sent Items box. I'm still running Outlook 2007, however, but recently tried Outlook.com. I didn't like that experience very well, at first taste, anyway. I've tried regular Gmail as well, but have never come to prefer an online interface for various reasons. Gmail for business may be much better for my purposes, but at $5 per month per distinct email address, that a killer cost compared to what I charge my clients now. They'd never go for that. -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 12:12 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF? I thought perhaps I could create a way to archive email that I receive and send. That's a real irritation, that I can't get my mail in conversational style that includes my sent messages. At least not in Outlook, that I'm aware of. I think newer versions of Outlook support conversation view. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355428 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?
current versions of outlook do conversation threading, however it threads base don the subject, so any emails that have the same subject end up in the same conversation, so it isn't very good. why they don't use the MessageId I do not know. Gmail/Google Apps takes some getting used to if your switching from Outlook, it is just like switching IDE's, you just have to give it some time. Outlook is so slow and clunky by comparison. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: I assume by conversation view you mean that also includes my replies? I have used the conventional conversation view that only show emails received within a grouping by conversation, but my replies still only go to my Sent Items box. I'm still running Outlook 2007, however, but recently tried Outlook.com. I didn't like that experience very well, at first taste, anyway. I've tried regular Gmail as well, but have never come to prefer an online interface for various reasons. Gmail for business may be much better for my purposes, but at $5 per month per distinct email address, that a killer cost compared to what I charge my clients now. They'd never go for that. -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 12:12 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF? I thought perhaps I could create a way to archive email that I receive and send. That's a real irritation, that I can't get my mail in conversational style that includes my sent messages. At least not in Outlook, that I'm aware of. I think newer versions of Outlook support conversation view. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355429 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF 7/ Dreamweaver and Data Sources
does the database/DSN tab still display all the DSN's on that server ? On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote: Hi all, My setup is:- DW CS3 CF MX 7 Windows 7 WS Windows 2003 development server MS SQL 2000 database Local area network I am having a problem with DW CS3. A site I have used for some weeks has suddenly started misbehaving. When trying to access a CF 7 data source (SQL 2000, I know, it's old) binding I get :- In order to view the columns of this recordset, please associate the variable (#application.dsn#) with a data source. To do this, press the plus (+) button and choose Data Source Name Variable. When I try and associate my application.dsn with a data source none are seen in the drop down. I compared the site to another site which is working fine and I can't see any difference in the setup. I have cleared the site cache and removed the data connections from within DW. (menu, Site = Advanced) I tried completely recreating the site copying only the cfm files into a new directory. I tried removing the configs from the Appdata cache/config. I've used this set up for years, but that doesn't mean to say I haven't missed something obvious - very rusty. Any ideas as to what is wrong, please? Thanks, Jenny -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 10828 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355430 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CF 7/ Dreamweaver and Data Sources
Hi Russ, It shows the config sequence. The RDS login seems to work fine in that the password is accepted. Step 5 Create a CF data source has :- http://mywebsite /cfide/administrator/datasources/index.cfm But the database don't list. -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: 16 April 2013 15:32 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CF 7/ Dreamweaver and Data Sources does the database/DSN tab still display all the DSN's on that server ? On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote: Hi all, My setup is:- DW CS3 CF MX 7 Windows 7 WS Windows 2003 development server MS SQL 2000 database Local area network I am having a problem with DW CS3. A site I have used for some weeks has suddenly started misbehaving. When trying to access a CF 7 data source (SQL 2000, I know, it's old) binding I get :- In order to view the columns of this recordset, please associate the variable (#application.dsn#) with a data source. To do this, press the plus (+) button and choose Data Source Name Variable. When I try and associate my application.dsn with a data source none are seen in the drop down. I compared the site to another site which is working fine and I can't see any difference in the setup. I have cleared the site cache and removed the data connections from within DW. (menu, Site = Advanced) I tried completely recreating the site copying only the cfm files into a new directory. I tried removing the configs from the Appdata cache/config. I've used this set up for years, but that doesn't mean to say I haven't missed something obvious - very rusty. Any ideas as to what is wrong, please? Thanks, Jenny -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 10828 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355431 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CF 7/ Dreamweaver and Data Sources
URL test fails. I added a virtual web directory to cfide for the web site, then when I click step 5 it brings up CF admin. -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: 16 April 2013 15:32 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CF 7/ Dreamweaver and Data Sources does the database/DSN tab still display all the DSN's on that server ? On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote: Hi all, My setup is:- DW CS3 CF MX 7 Windows 7 WS Windows 2003 development server MS SQL 2000 database Local area network I am having a problem with DW CS3. A site I have used for some weeks has suddenly started misbehaving. When trying to access a CF 7 data source (SQL 2000, I know, it's old) binding I get :- In order to view the columns of this recordset, please associate the variable (#application.dsn#) with a data source. To do this, press the plus (+) button and choose Data Source Name Variable. When I try and associate my application.dsn with a data source none are seen in the drop down. I compared the site to another site which is working fine and I can't see any difference in the setup. I have cleared the site cache and removed the data connections from within DW. (menu, Site = Advanced) I tried completely recreating the site copying only the cfm files into a new directory. I tried removing the configs from the Appdata cache/config. I've used this set up for years, but that doesn't mean to say I haven't missed something obvious - very rusty. Any ideas as to what is wrong, please? Thanks, Jenny -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 10828 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355432 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?
But again, with business class Gmail/Google Apps, we're talking about $5 per unique email address which would run me $500 per month for my email users. A quite ridiculous cost! I get SmarterMail 11 Professional, which includes up to 250 users or domains included with my Virtual Dedicated Server. I've found all the online interfaces; outlook.com, gmail, and even SmarterMail to be slower when it comes to handling mail than desktop outlook. There's no way an online service can compete with locally installed software that I've found. If an online server can keep up with locally installed software, then there's probably something wrong with the local installation. -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:30 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF? current versions of outlook do conversation threading, however it threads base don the subject, so any emails that have the same subject end up in the same conversation, so it isn't very good. why they don't use the MessageId I do not know. Gmail/Google Apps takes some getting used to if your switching from Outlook, it is just like switching IDE's, you just have to give it some time. Outlook is so slow and clunky by comparison. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: I assume by conversation view you mean that also includes my replies? I have used the conventional conversation view that only show emails received within a grouping by conversation, but my replies still only go to my Sent Items box. I'm still running Outlook 2007, however, but recently tried Outlook.com. I didn't like that experience very well, at first taste, anyway. I've tried regular Gmail as well, but have never come to prefer an online interface for various reasons. Gmail for business may be much better for my purposes, but at $5 per month per distinct email address, that a killer cost compared to what I charge my clients now. They'd never go for that. -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 12:12 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF? I thought perhaps I could create a way to archive email that I receive and send. That's a real irritation, that I can't get my mail in conversational style that includes my sent messages. At least not in Outlook, that I'm aware of. I think newer versions of Outlook support conversation view. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355433 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Rick Faircloth wrote: But again, with business class Gmail/Google Apps, we're talking about $5 per unique email address which would run me $500 per month for my email users. A quite ridiculous cost! There is a cost in managing your own email server as well. I have no idea how many hours a month on average you spend dealing with the server, but in my case I am 100% sure the amount of time I'd spend on it each month, especially if I have clients using it too, would be WAY more than $500 in billable time. This is why we don't host our clients email or websites ourselves. -Cameron ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355434 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?
Hi Rick, It might be worth taking a look at Act! It is possible to integrate Act! and Outlook so that all email relating to a client record in Act! is automatically pulled in from Outlook and stored. Attachments are handled, too. Act! is a really good contact management system, so as well as storing/organising your emails, it will help you manage your clients, too. Cheers, Jenny -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] Sent: 16 April 2013 02:05 To: cf-talk Subject: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF? I've been trying to find a good way to store email *from* AND *to* my clients. (you know, create that really handy paper trail you need sometimes...) I've tried all sorts of ways from The Brain to Evernote to One Note, but nothing works easily or automatically. Just wondering if anyone has tried this. I found nothing about it when searching the Internet. Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355435 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?
I was only referring to Gmail not other webmail interfaces, which I have found quicker and more responsive than Outlook. Outlook is a slugish monster and prone to crashing, always has been and is well known for it. You cannot really compare your Smartermail Server to Google Apps, that is like comparing a word processor App to Microsoft Office or a 1 bed apartment to a 5 bed house. You should go and take a look at what Google Apps actually is, as you are clearly under the impression is is just basic email, which is so not the case. For what you get, $5 per user is incredibly cheap. Clearly it is not suitable for you or your client who is obviously very low budget, but you should at least research the facts before making invalid judgements or comparisons, you may find other clients for which this is suitable, which would be a potential lost sale if you don't know the facts. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: But again, with business class Gmail/Google Apps, we're talking about $5 per unique email address which would run me $500 per month for my email users. A quite ridiculous cost! I get SmarterMail 11 Professional, which includes up to 250 users or domains included with my Virtual Dedicated Server. I've found all the online interfaces; outlook.com, gmail, and even SmarterMail to be slower when it comes to handling mail than desktop outlook. There's no way an online service can compete with locally installed software that I've found. If an online server can keep up with locally installed software, then there's probably something wrong with the local installation. -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:30 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF? current versions of outlook do conversation threading, however it threads base don the subject, so any emails that have the same subject end up in the same conversation, so it isn't very good. why they don't use the MessageId I do not know. Gmail/Google Apps takes some getting used to if your switching from Outlook, it is just like switching IDE's, you just have to give it some time. Outlook is so slow and clunky by comparison. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.com wrote: I assume by conversation view you mean that also includes my replies? I have used the conventional conversation view that only show emails received within a grouping by conversation, but my replies still only go to my Sent Items box. I'm still running Outlook 2007, however, but recently tried Outlook.com. I didn't like that experience very well, at first taste, anyway. I've tried regular Gmail as well, but have never come to prefer an online interface for various reasons. Gmail for business may be much better for my purposes, but at $5 per month per distinct email address, that a killer cost compared to what I charge my clients now. They'd never go for that. -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 12:12 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF? I thought perhaps I could create a way to archive email that I receive and send. That's a real irritation, that I can't get my mail in conversational style that includes my sent messages. At least not in Outlook, that I'm aware of. I think newer versions of Outlook support conversation view. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355436 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF 7/ Dreamweaver and Data Sources
are you sure the CFIDE is reachable on the URL you have specified in the RDS settings. If this is your local machine, you should only need to specify http://localhost/ as that is where the cfadmin resides by default On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote: Hi Russ, It shows the config sequence. The RDS login seems to work fine in that the password is accepted. Step 5 Create a CF data source has :- http://mywebsite /cfide/administrator/datasources/index.cfm But the database don't list. -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: 16 April 2013 15:32 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CF 7/ Dreamweaver and Data Sources does the database/DSN tab still display all the DSN's on that server ? On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote: Hi all, My setup is:- DW CS3 CF MX 7 Windows 7 WS Windows 2003 development server MS SQL 2000 database Local area network I am having a problem with DW CS3. A site I have used for some weeks has suddenly started misbehaving. When trying to access a CF 7 data source (SQL 2000, I know, it's old) binding I get :- In order to view the columns of this recordset, please associate the variable (#application.dsn#) with a data source. To do this, press the plus (+) button and choose Data Source Name Variable. When I try and associate my application.dsn with a data source none are seen in the drop down. I compared the site to another site which is working fine and I can't see any difference in the setup. I have cleared the site cache and removed the data connections from within DW. (menu, Site = Advanced) I tried completely recreating the site copying only the cfm files into a new directory. I tried removing the configs from the Appdata cache/config. I've used this set up for years, but that doesn't mean to say I haven't missed something obvious - very rusty. Any ideas as to what is wrong, please? Thanks, Jenny -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 10828 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355437 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?
But again, with business class Gmail/Google Apps, we're talking about $5 per unique email address which would run me $500 per month for my email users. A quite ridiculous cost! I get SmarterMail 11 Professional, which includes up to 250 users or domains included with my Virtual Dedicated Server. As an end-user, I don't think $5 per month sounds like a lot for the most important network service I use. As an administrator, there is simply no comparison I could make between the two. What happens if your virtual dedicated server takes a dump? How long will it take you to get your users online again? What sort of data loss would they incur? What kind of mail quotas can you handle? What happens if a mailbox is corrupted? What happens if you run out of disk space? Etc, etc, etc. Like most everything else in life, you get what you pay for. I've found all the online interfaces; outlook.com, gmail, and even SmarterMail to be slower when it comes to handling mail than desktop outlook. There's no way an online service can compete with locally installed software that I've found. If an online server can keep up with locally installed software, then there's probably something wrong with the local installation. I guess it depends on what you mean by handling mail. In general, I find Gmail to be much faster and more efficient than Outlook. I've used Outlook for many years (and you can use it with Google Apps if you want, via Google Apps Sync for Microsoft Outlook). If you want to read new mail, any client is still going to have to fetch it from the server. If you want to read old mail, Outlook will likely already have it stored, but you still have to get to it, and finding email in Gmail is quite a bit easier. If you want to search the contents of your OST or PST for something, that search can take a long time. If you search Gmail, it takes seconds. And of course, there's only so much mail you can practically store in a single OST or PST, so you typically end up with PST archives all over the place that you effectively can't get to at all unless you open them up. I have PST archives for about ten years worth of email that I'll likely never open again. I work with quite a few people switching from Exchange to Google Apps, and they're all the same way - PSTs all over the place. I used Outlook for years. I would never go back. It would make me much less productive. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355438 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?
I was going to say all that and more Dave, but I don't think he really cares about that stuff, so I didn't bother :-) Email and hosting are usually critical to people's business yet oddly most people are usually not prepared to spend any money on them, and will use the cheapest solution possible. then you consider the other LESS IMPORTANT parts of an average business these days are such as letter heads, business cards, compliment slips, telephones, etc, which are rarely used in a buisness that operates via electronic communication, and folks will spend more on this than they do on their hosting and email. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: But again, with business class Gmail/Google Apps, we're talking about $5 per unique email address which would run me $500 per month for my email users. A quite ridiculous cost! I get SmarterMail 11 Professional, which includes up to 250 users or domains included with my Virtual Dedicated Server. As an end-user, I don't think $5 per month sounds like a lot for the most important network service I use. As an administrator, there is simply no comparison I could make between the two. What happens if your virtual dedicated server takes a dump? How long will it take you to get your users online again? What sort of data loss would they incur? What kind of mail quotas can you handle? What happens if a mailbox is corrupted? What happens if you run out of disk space? Etc, etc, etc. Like most everything else in life, you get what you pay for. I've found all the online interfaces; outlook.com, gmail, and even SmarterMail to be slower when it comes to handling mail than desktop outlook. There's no way an online service can compete with locally installed software that I've found. If an online server can keep up with locally installed software, then there's probably something wrong with the local installation. I guess it depends on what you mean by handling mail. In general, I find Gmail to be much faster and more efficient than Outlook. I've used Outlook for many years (and you can use it with Google Apps if you want, via Google Apps Sync for Microsoft Outlook). If you want to read new mail, any client is still going to have to fetch it from the server. If you want to read old mail, Outlook will likely already have it stored, but you still have to get to it, and finding email in Gmail is quite a bit easier. If you want to search the contents of your OST or PST for something, that search can take a long time. If you search Gmail, it takes seconds. And of course, there's only so much mail you can practically store in a single OST or PST, so you typically end up with PST archives all over the place that you effectively can't get to at all unless you open them up. I have PST archives for about ten years worth of email that I'll likely never open again. I work with quite a few people switching from Exchange to Google Apps, and they're all the same way - PSTs all over the place. I used Outlook for years. I would never go back. It would make me much less productive. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355439 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Dave Watts wrote: As an end-user, I don't think $5 per month sounds like a lot for the most important network service I use. As an administrator, there is simply no comparison I could make between the two. What happens if your virtual dedicated server takes a dump? How long will it take you to get your users online again? What sort of data loss would they incur? What kind of mail quotas can you handle? What happens if a mailbox is corrupted? What happens if you run out of disk space? Etc, etc, etc. Yup - Time = money. Especially if you own a business. If something is costing you time, that thing is costing you money. I mentally multiply the time spent on things like this by a normal billrate to assign a dollar amount to it. We don't host any servers inhouse. I will go to the ends of the earth to find a way to not very valuable waste time managing things like that. -Cameron ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355440 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: We don't host any servers inhouse. I will go to the ends of the earth to find a way to not very valuable waste time managing things like that. Just like I apparently don't like to waste valuable time proofreading my emails before I send them. -Cameron ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355441 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: SSL on CFquery
Hi, We have a further issue with this. The hosting company have installed the SSL certificate on the database and provided us with the details of where the certificate is stored. However, in the CF connection string it asks to provide the url of the certificate. I am confused about how to get this to work. How would i instruct coldfusion to use the certificate on the database server? Thanks, Richard Hi, We have a windows server for our CF application and a Linux server for our database. We are setting up a self-signed SSL between the two servers. Our hosting company have said we need to reference the SSL in the connection string but how can I do this in a cfquery? Many thanks Richard ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355442 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?
How about BCC to a designated box? On 4/15/13 9:04 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.com wrote: I've been trying to find a good way to store email *from* AND *to* my clients. (you know, create that really handy paper trail you need sometimes...) I've tried all sorts of ways from The Brain to Evernote to One Note, but nothing works easily or automatically. Just wondering if anyone has tried this. I found nothing about it when searching the Internet. Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355443 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?
I guess you could really only control the initial TO with that solution. On 4/16/13 1:25 PM, Bobby bo...@acoderslife.com wrote: How about BCC to a designated box? On 4/15/13 9:04 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.com wrote: I've been trying to find a good way to store email *from* AND *to* my clients. (you know, create that really handy paper trail you need sometimes...) I've tried all sorts of ways from The Brain to Evernote to One Note, but nothing works easily or automatically. Just wondering if anyone has tried this. I found nothing about it when searching the Internet. Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355444 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Problem with web service call after CF8 to CF10 upgrade
DING DING DING! Adding the following to the original code did the trick. cfset argStruct.wsVersion = 1 To those interested, who have seen the WSDL and wondered... note that the WSDL has two input parameters and two response parameters, but I have to pass FOUR parameters, the latter two just being empty strings. The web service call doesn't actually return a result that I can read like this wsResult = myws.mymethod(arg, arg); Instead, I actually have to do this to get the result: local.wsResponse = getSoapResponse(local.ws); local.wsResponse = XMLParse(local.wsResponse); local.responseMessages = XMLSearch(local.wsResponse,//Msgtab/item); Pretty messed up if you ask me. But, that's SAP for you, I guess :) Thanks all for helping me out! Rick Thanks a ton! I've been struggling with this issue since I went to CF10. I was almost ready to throw in the towel and revert back to CF9. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355445 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?
Is there a specific reason you can't just use imap ? Regards Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine On Apr 16, 2013 6:35 PM, Bobby bo...@acoderslife.com wrote: I guess you could really only control the initial TO with that solution. On 4/16/13 1:25 PM, Bobby bo...@acoderslife.com wrote: How about BCC to a designated box? On 4/15/13 9:04 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.com wrote: I've been trying to find a good way to store email *from* AND *to* my clients. (you know, create that really handy paper trail you need sometimes...) I've tried all sorts of ways from The Brain to Evernote to One Note, but nothing works easily or automatically. Just wondering if anyone has tried this. I found nothing about it when searching the Internet. Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355446 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?
I will take a look at all that my clients would gain with Google Apps, but all that they require at the moment is email service. The other benefits of Google Apps, except for a consolidated calendar, at this point, would be superfluous. I'll check out Google Business Apps a little closer and see what all it offers. However, I do have issues with Outlook slowing down at times and even crashing on the rare occasion, but it far faster than Gmail's online interface by far, at least in my experience. Are you saying that your Gmail, through the Gmail browser interface out-performs a locally installed, copy of Outlook? Just one annoyance with online interfaces is the trying to delete emails. -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 11:36 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF? I was only referring to Gmail not other webmail interfaces, which I have found quicker and more responsive than Outlook. Outlook is a slugish monster and prone to crashing, always has been and is well known for it. You cannot really compare your Smartermail Server to Google Apps, that is like comparing a word processor App to Microsoft Office or a 1 bed apartment to a 5 bed house. You should go and take a look at what Google Apps actually is, as you are clearly under the impression is is just basic email, which is so not the case. For what you get, $5 per user is incredibly cheap. Clearly it is not suitable for you or your client who is obviously very low budget, but you should at least research the facts before making invalid judgements or comparisons, you may find other clients for which this is suitable, which would be a potential lost sale if you don't know the facts. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: But again, with business class Gmail/Google Apps, we're talking about $5 per unique email address which would run me $500 per month for my email users. A quite ridiculous cost! I get SmarterMail 11 Professional, which includes up to 250 users or domains included with my Virtual Dedicated Server. I've found all the online interfaces; outlook.com, gmail, and even SmarterMail to be slower when it comes to handling mail than desktop outlook. There's no way an online service can compete with locally installed software that I've found. If an online server can keep up with locally installed software, then there's probably something wrong with the local installation. -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:30 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF? current versions of outlook do conversation threading, however it threads base don the subject, so any emails that have the same subject end up in the same conversation, so it isn't very good. why they don't use the MessageId I do not know. Gmail/Google Apps takes some getting used to if your switching from Outlook, it is just like switching IDE's, you just have to give it some time. Outlook is so slow and clunky by comparison. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.com wrote: I assume by conversation view you mean that also includes my replies? I have used the conventional conversation view that only show emails received within a grouping by conversation, but my replies still only go to my Sent Items box. I'm still running Outlook 2007, however, but recently tried Outlook.com. I didn't like that experience very well, at first taste, anyway. I've tried regular Gmail as well, but have never come to prefer an online interface for various reasons. Gmail for business may be much better for my purposes, but at $5 per month per distinct email address, that a killer cost compared to what I charge my clients now. They'd never go for that. -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 12:12 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF? I thought perhaps I could create a way to archive email that I receive and send. That's a real irritation, that I can't get my mail in conversational style that includes my sent messages. At least not in Outlook, that I'm aware of. I think newer versions of Outlook support conversation view. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive:
RE: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?
I can give that a try... thanks for the suggestion, Bobby! -Original Message- From: Bobby [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:25 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF? How about BCC to a designated box? On 4/15/13 9:04 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.com wrote: I've been trying to find a good way to store email *from* AND *to* my clients. (you know, create that really handy paper trail you need sometimes...) I've tried all sorts of ways from The Brain to Evernote to One Note, but nothing works easily or automatically. Just wondering if anyone has tried this. I found nothing about it when searching the Internet. Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355448 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?
Are you saying that your Gmail, through the Gmail browser interface out-performs a locally installed, copy of Outlook? What do you mean by out-perform exactly? To me, it means I can accomplish things faster in one than in the other. And for every use case except one, I can accomplish things faster in Gmail than in Outlook. So, for me, Gmail out-performs Outlook. That one use case is offline use. If I cared about offline use, I'd probably use Outlook as my Gmail client. Just one annoyance with online interfaces is the trying to delete emails. I have no problem deleting email in Gmail. Filter, select, delete, done! I suspect I can delete email faster in Gmail than in Outlook. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355449 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: SSL on CFquery
You don't, afaik ypu simply need the client cert in the java keystore. See this http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/connector-j-reference-using-ssl.html There is a handu cfadmin extension on riaforge.org for managing your keystore. Regards Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine On Apr 16, 2013 5:33 PM, Richard White rich...@re-base.net wrote: Hi, We have a further issue with this. The hosting company have installed the SSL certificate on the database and provided us with the details of where the certificate is stored. However, in the CF connection string it asks to provide the url of the certificate. I am confused about how to get this to work. How would i instruct coldfusion to use the certificate on the database server? Thanks, Richard Hi, We have a windows server for our CF application and a Linux server for our database. We are setting up a self-signed SSL between the two servers. Our hosting company have said we need to reference the SSL in the connection string but how can I do this in a cfquery? Many thanks Richard ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355450 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Date Ranges: Drop Down Menus vs Calendar Based
I've been writing an application in CF that imports cost data from Analytics, AdWords, BING, and other APIs that generate reports based on selected date ranges and filtered campaigns. After looking into multiple types of jQuery based calendar selectors used in setting the date ranges, I decided to go with drop down menus with my own Ajax/CFC driven version instead. Now the question has come back to me about adding the Calendar selection instead because I've been told it's more user friendly. When I first started writing it, I implemented the calendar selection and found many issues that didn't work as well as I would like. I also looked into how Google Analytics uses the date range options with their calendar selection to see how they did it. There are several things that I don't like about these and ultimately chose to not use this type of method. For example, if you're selecting four or more months or a full year, it's faster to type in the date range than to select from the provided visual calendar (clicking back to Jan, selecting the 1st, then clicking forward to Dec etc). However, typing in the date range manually can lead to user error and results in a need for more validation, which is something I'd rather avoid. With a custom created set of drop down menus it's faster than both hand typing it and clicking through multiple months to get the right date range, not to mention less space used in the interface. Am I wrong? Opinions? -Matt ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355451 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Date Ranges: Drop Down Menus vs Calendar Based
I agree with you, but I have multiple clients who have insisted on the calendar method, so I pulled out much hair and got it working, even in bootstrap. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Matt Blatchley blatch...@gmail.com wrote: After looking into multiple types of jQuery based calendar selectors used in setting the date ranges, I decided to go with drop down menus with my own Ajax/CFC driven version instead. Now the question has come back to me about adding the Calendar selection instead because I've been told it's more user friendly. ...snip... With a custom created set of drop down menus it's faster than both hand typing it and clicking through multiple months to get the right date range, not to mention less space used in the interface. Am I wrong? Opinions? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355452 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Date Ranges: Drop Down Menus vs Calendar Based
Really depends on your implementation, I'd say. Also, have you tested it with actual users? How does it work for them? On 4/16/13 5:13 PM, Matt Blatchley wrote: I've been writing an application in CF that imports cost data from Analytics, AdWords, BING, and other APIs that generate reports based on selected date ranges and filtered campaigns. After looking into multiple types of jQuery based calendar selectors used in setting the date ranges, I decided to go with drop down menus with my own Ajax/CFC driven version instead. Now the question has come back to me about adding the Calendar selection instead because I've been told it's more user friendly. When I first started writing it, I implemented the calendar selection and found many issues that didn't work as well as I would like. I also looked into how Google Analytics uses the date range options with their calendar selection to see how they did it. There are several things that I don't like about these and ultimately chose to not use this type of method. For example, if you're selecting four or more months or a full year, it's faster to type in the date range than to select from the provided visual calendar (clicking back to Jan, selecting the 1st, then clicking forward to Dec etc). However, typing in the date range manually can lead to user error and results in a need for more validation, which is something I'd rather avoid. With a custom created set of drop down menus it's faster than both hand typing it and clicking through multiple months to get the right date range, not to mention less space used in the interface. Am I wrong? Opinions? -Matt ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355453 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Date Ranges: Drop Down Menus vs Calendar Based
Really depends on your implementation, I'd say. Also, have you tested it with actual users? How does it work for them? I've done lots of demos of the product and that isn't something they mention, or at least not that I've heard. Usually it has to do more with can it pull this or that data etc. Never heard anyone say anything about the drop down menus vs calendar selection. This is more of a UI/UX preference from someone that isn't a customer. Visually I think the calendar is prettier, functionally I think it's more of a PITA for customers. We allow you search preset date ranges as well (last month, this month, last week, last year, this year etc) Which could be added to calendar functionally, but it would have to be consistent, meaning throughout the whole app. And thinking about that makes my head hurt :) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355454 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Date Ranges: Drop Down Menus vs Calendar Based
Really depends on your implementation, I'd say. Also, have you tested it with actual users? How does it work for them? I've done lots of demos of the product and that isn't something they mention, or at least not that I've heard. Usually it has to do more with can it pull this or that data etc. Never heard anyone say anything about the drop down menus vs calendar selection. This is more of a UI/UX preference from someone that isn't a customer. Visually I think the calendar is prettier, functionally I think it's more of a PITA for customers. We allow you search preset date ranges as well (last month, this month, last week, last year, this year etc) Which could be added to calendar functionally, but it would have to be consistent, meaning throughout the whole app. And thinking about that makes my head hurt :) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355455 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
