RE: Web Hosting Sites and CFSCHEDULE
You can use CFSchedule to hit other sites. Plus, you could DoS a box by scheduling a task that loops from 1 to 1 billion that runs every minute. -Original Message- From: Bruce Holm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 4:34 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Web Hosting Sites and CFSCHEDULE Is it common for web hosting sites to disable CFSCHEDULE or is my hosting company (ReadyHosting.com) just being paranoid by disabling it? You can only schedule what's on your site anyway, so it just allows automating a page access for convenience's sake what you can do manually anyway. Seems stupid to disable this tag. - Bruce Holm - Web Programmer Lattice Semiconductor Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Dynamic PDFs
Sounds like a perfect example of using PDF forms (FDF's). Good article here on doing it programmatically without purchasing a third-party product: http://www.worlddesign.com/cf/pdfForms.html (I think this was originally posted to this list) --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: chris.alvarado [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 2:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Dynamic PDFs I have a set of blank unused PDF files that are used for applications (job applications). I need to fill in ares on this PDF from a database programatically. What is the easiest way to do this. I have been looking t ActivePDF. is this easy to use with CF and will it do what I am describing? thanks for any and all help, -chris.alvarado [ application developer ] 4 Guys Interactive, Inc. http://www.4guys.com __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Dynamic News
http://www.newsisfree.com/syndicate.php --- Billy Cravens Web and Software Consulting www.Architechx.com -Original Message- From: Cold Fusion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 1:58 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Dynamic News Does anyone use Moreover or anything to display NEWS on a webpage? If so, which one and what are the cost? Good Bad expereinces are appreciated __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF 4.0 Sever on Windows XP
No - only 4.5 and above. If I recall correctly, 4.0 will overwrite XP's (and 2000) MDAC with an older version. This can break other programs that utilize an MDAC that XP *should* have. (So yes, it'll run, but totally unsupported for a good reason) --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Morgan, Thomas J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 1:21 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF 4.0 Sever on Windows XP Can ColdFusion 4.0 run on Windows XP Pro? What about the single server copy that comes with Studio 4.0? Thanks. Thomas J. Morgan Research Triangle Institute 3040 Cornwallis Road RTP, NC 27709 (919)541-7414 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Http:\\www.rti.org __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Question about NOBR
You could use a table, and put nowrap=nowrap in the cell (td) --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Brian Eckerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 1:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Question about NOBR Hello, does anyone know where the functionality of NOBR has been moved to. ColdFusion says NOBR is a not defined in the current version of HTML. You can reply offlist if you wish. Thanks in advance, Brian Eckerman. __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: sql query
You could do it in SQL, just like you said: DECLARE @oldSsn char(9) SET @oldSsn = '#ssn#' DECLARE @newSsn char(11) SET @newSsn = SUBSTRING(@oldSsn, 1, 3) + '-' + SUBSTRING(@oldSsn, 4, 5) + '-' + SUBSTRING(@oldSsn, 6, 9) INSERT INTO myTable (ssn) VALUES (@newSsn) --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 8:57 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: sql query this has nothing to do with sql. you have to parse the 9 digit number and set it equal to your reformatted number. Use left() or substring On Wed, 1 May 2002, Joshua Tipton wrote: I would like to run an update query to take a 9 digit social security number and place the dashes in the correct spots. IE.. 999-99-. Can anyone help me with this? Joshua Tipton __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Html to PDF, Excel, Word formats
You should be very cautious about invoking HTMLDOC on the server - it has a habit of leaving its thread running. So, a few hundred PDF's could bring your server to its knees. One of my past gigs used it by writing a wrapper ActiveX DLL that used the Win32 API to kill the thread (after n timeout) if it didn't kill itself. For somewhat robust document manipulation, check out ActivePDF, and be sure to check out ASPIN.com for some server-side components for other file types. --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Jeff Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 8:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Html to PDF, Excel, Word formats I recommend checking out CF_HTML2PDF3 (can be found in the DevEx), a free Custom Tag that generates PDF files. Tried and tested, and very easy to implement. This tag utilizes HTMLDOC.EXE, and you must have CFEXECUTE access on your server. My only gripe is that it does not support CSS. v/r, Jeff -Original Message- From: YC Nyon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 1:28 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Html to PDF, Excel, Word formats Hi, What are the options of converting a html file on the fly to PDF, Excel and Word using CF ? Thanks. Nyon __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: states - counties - zip codes database?
Zipinfo.com --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Cantrell, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 9:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: states - counties - zip codes database? Bump, can anyone help me out with this? This has to be a common question. Anyone know of an updated database as mentioned in the subject line - preferably one that stores the relationships between counties - zip codes? __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFDJ subscription
No kidding. Slow, too many ads, broken functionality. Kinda like hiring a painter whose house is chipping and cracking... --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 10:14 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ subscription Does anybody here know where I can subscribe to the CFDJ online. I tried this link: http://www.sys-con.com/coldfusion/subscribe/SubscribeForm.cfm but it's giving me a 404 error. Anybody know where I can subscribe? Thanks. To be perfectly honest with you, I think that their site is one of the worst sites I have ever seen. For what subscribers pay annually just to CFDJ, let alone their other publications, you would figure that they would put something a big more user-friendly and less ad-intensive. But that doesn't answer your question, I know. Sorry, just had to vent on that one. My suggestion would be to go to your nearest bookstore (i.e., Barnes and Noble) and look for a subscription insert in one of their issues. My boss subscribed to it for our department a few months back, and all we got were timeouts and 404 errors. So I just went down to BN and grabbed an insert. Snail mail still has its benefits!! Regards, Dave. _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: states - counties - zip codes database?
Yeah, but I bet they're looking for a database, not an interactive form. (And USPS states that they have the right to restrict access, for all those geniuses that want to steal someone else's bandwidth with CFHTTP) --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Sam Roach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 10:15 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: states - counties - zip codes database? For just city and state: http://www.usps.com/ncsc/lookups/lookup_ctystzip.html -- sam -Original Message- From: Craig Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 8:11 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: states - counties - zip codes database? Bump, can anyone help me out with this? This has to be a common question. Anyone know of an updated database as mentioned in the subject line - preferably one that stores the relationships between counties - zip codes? http://www.usps.com/search97cgi/s97_cgi?action=ViewVdkVgwKey=http%3A%2F %2Fw ww%2Eusps%2Ecom%2Ffoia%2Freadroom%2Fzipcodedir%2EhtmDocOffset=4DocsFou nd=4 23QueryZip=zip+codesCollection=externalHLNavigate=off The USPS can help you out, for a fee of course. I do not know of any FREE versions of the same thing. -Craig Thomas __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Quick question...
Chr(9) --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 11:56 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Quick question... Anyone remember the CHR code for a tab? I'm having a senior moment and I'm not event 35 yet... Portent Interactive Helping clients build customer relationships on the web since 1995 Consulting, design, development, measurement http://www.portentinteractive.com Talk with us: http://projects.portentinteractive.com __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Distributing self-contained CFMX apps
Yeah, but self-contained apps would require one license per app, as opposed to one application server running multiple apps. Not to mention resolution of the issue that arises when you have a client that already has CFMX (hardly a brain-bender, but an issue nonetheless if you adopt the self-contained app business model) --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Craig Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 12:42 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Distributing self-contained CFMX apps The only downside being that the CFMX license will make the cost of the software prohibitive. Imagine tacking on thousands of dollars to the price of your development. Wouldn't 'cost prohibitive' depend on the client? If they are running their own server (or even using a dedicated host) they have to purchase CFMX anyway, so self contained CFMX apps is not only possible, it is more cost effective for the client as their IT personnel will only need to install once. -Craig Thomas __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Distributing self-contained CFMX apps
Just b/c they're compiled into classes, doesn't mean that they aren't calling classes proprietary to CFMX but external to the application. --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Matthew R. Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 1:06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Distributing self-contained CFMX apps If the CF templates are compiled into classes, could you then run them on any ol' servlet web server? Would that violate the license agreement? - Matt Small -Original Message- From: Craig Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 1:58 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Distributing self-contained CFMX apps Yeah, but self-contained apps would require one license per app, as opposed to one application server running multiple apps. Very good point. -Craig __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: JavaScript - Validation of Date - 3 Drop down lits
Use the Date object in JS:
(Haven't tested this, coding off the cuff):
objFrmDate = new Date(frm.year.value,frm.month.value,frm.days.value);
objToday = new Date();
// getTime method converts to ms since 1/1/70, allowing for absolute
date comparison
numFrmDate = objFrmDate.getTime();
numToday = objToday.getTime();
if (numFrmDate = numToday) {
// date is greater than or equal to today
return true;
} else {
return false;
}
Good info on the date object:
http://developer.netscape.com/viewsource/goodman_dateobject.html
---
Billy Cravens
-Original Message-
From: Chakka, Sudheer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 12:50 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: JavaScript - Validation of Date - 3 Drop down lits
Hi,
Does any body have Javascript code snippet that validates the date.
I have a 3 drop lists (Year- 02 format , Month - 01 format, day - 01
format)
I have to check the date selected by the user is greater or equal to
today's date .
I am combining all the three values
I am stuck with this, as it is giving the int value of the combined
string
(parseInt()) as 0.
I think there is a better way of doing this.
Thanks in advance.
Sudheer Chakka
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RE: Distributing self-contained CFMX apps
No, I don't think MM supports this. --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Matthew R. Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 1:17 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Distributing self-contained CFMX apps Yeah, I was thinking that. But as a point of curiosity, you could just take the CF classes and your template classes after compilation and run them on any java server, right? Or am I missing something? - Matt Small -Original Message- From: Mk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Distributing self-contained CFMX apps Matt, It doesn't work quite that way. because the class files are actually a collection of callse to Java classes that are a part ofthe CFMX installation, they will NOT run without the CFMX run time. Mark - Original Message - From: Matthew R. Small [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 1:06 PM Subject: RE: Distributing self-contained CFMX apps If the CF templates are compiled into classes, could you then run them on any ol' servlet web server? Would that violate the license agreement? - Matt Small -Original Message- From: Craig Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 1:58 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Distributing self-contained CFMX apps Yeah, but self-contained apps would require one license per app, as opposed to one application server running multiple apps. Very good point. -Craig __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Distributing self-contained CFMX apps
No, I don't think so. --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Matthew R. Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 1:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Distributing self-contained CFMX apps I'm sure they don't, but just for curiosity's sake. It will run, right? Unless the MM classes blow up when removed from their protective CF shell. - Matt Small -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:17 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Distributing self-contained CFMX apps No, I don't think MM supports this. --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Matthew R. Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 1:17 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Distributing self-contained CFMX apps Yeah, I was thinking that. But as a point of curiosity, you could just take the CF classes and your template classes after compilation and run them on any java server, right? Or am I missing something? - Matt Small -Original Message- From: Mk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Distributing self-contained CFMX apps Matt, It doesn't work quite that way. because the class files are actually a collection of callse to Java classes that are a part ofthe CFMX installation, they will NOT run without the CFMX run time. Mark - Original Message - From: Matthew R. Small [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 1:06 PM Subject: RE: Distributing self-contained CFMX apps If the CF templates are compiled into classes, could you then run them on any ol' servlet web server? Would that violate the license agreement? - Matt Small -Original Message- From: Craig Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 1:58 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Distributing self-contained CFMX apps Yeah, but self-contained apps would require one license per app, as opposed to one application server running multiple apps. Very good point. -Craig __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
New list perhaps?
At least in the short term, most of the traffic has been about MX (cf, dw, etc) Would it be a good idea to set up a new list? (Maybe [EMAIL PROTECTED]?) I think the biggest advantage of cf-talk is a development resource, not a bug/gripefest. Don't get me wrong, I love talking about/whining about upcoming releases, but I think it's in that gray area between cf-talk and cf-community. Unfortunately, 4/4.5/5/etc discussion has been lost in the mix the last few days. --- Billy Cravens This e-mail, facsimile, or letter and any files or attachments transmitted with it contains information that is confidential and privileged. This information is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and entity(ies) to whom it is addressed. If you are the intended recipient, further disclosures are prohibited without proper authorization. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, printing, or use of this information is strictly prohibited and possibly a violation of federal or state law and regulations. If you have received this information in error, please notify Baylor Health Care System immediately at 1-866-402-1661 or via e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baylor Health Care System, its subsidiaries, and affiliates hereby claim all applicable privileges related to this information. __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: SiteObjec soEditor vs. Ektron eWebEdit Pro
For decent functionality when you can guarantee that the browser is IE, soEdit is good. (It really just utilizes native browser functionality) However, eWebEdit supports Netscape (Java?) and has a pretty rich JavaScript API you can program against (among many other flexible features). Functionality wise, eWebEdit is a clear winner. The biggest point, to me at least, is the pricing. (starting at $300/domain for eWebEdit vs. starting at $0! for unlimited domains with soEdit) --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 3:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: SiteObjec soEditor vs. Ektron eWebEdit Pro I'm interested in hearing people's experience with using SiteObject's soEditor? We've done a lot of work with Ektron's eWebEdit Pro in the past and because of a client requirement, we may have to use another solution. I'm mainly interested in problem's you've had with the editor, how hard is it to customize (custom toolbars and such) etc. Thanks. Phillip FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists This e-mail, facsimile, or letter and any files or attachments transmitted with it contains information that is confidential and privileged. This information is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and entity(ies) to whom it is addressed. If you are the intended recipient, further disclosures are prohibited without proper authorization. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, printing, or use of this information is strictly prohibited and possibly a violation of federal or state law and regulations. If you have received this information in error, please notify Baylor Health Care System immediately at 1-866-402-1661 or via e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baylor Health Care System, its subsidiaries, and affiliates hereby claim all applicable privileges related to this information. __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: SiteObjec soEditor vs. Ektron eWebEdit Pro
Siteobjects.com --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Pardeep [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SiteObjec soEditor vs. Ektron eWebEdit Pro Does anyone know the URL to take a look at soEditor? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:15 PM Subject: RE: SiteObjec soEditor vs. Ektron eWebEdit Pro For decent functionality when you can guarantee that the browser is IE, soEdit is good. (It really just utilizes native browser functionality) However, eWebEdit supports Netscape (Java?) and has a pretty rich JavaScript API you can program against (among many other flexible features). Functionality wise, eWebEdit is a clear winner. The biggest point, to me at least, is the pricing. (starting at $300/domain for eWebEdit vs. starting at $0! for unlimited domains with soEdit) --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 3:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: SiteObjec soEditor vs. Ektron eWebEdit Pro I'm interested in hearing people's experience with using SiteObject's soEditor? We've done a lot of work with Ektron's eWebEdit Pro in the past and because of a client requirement, we may have to use another solution. I'm mainly interested in problem's you've had with the editor, how hard is it to customize (custom toolbars and such) etc. Thanks. Phillip FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists This e-mail, facsimile, or letter and any files or attachments transmitted with it contains information that is confidential and privileged. This information is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and entity(ies) to whom it is addressed. If you are the intended recipient, further disclosures are prohibited without proper authorization. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, printing, or use of this information is strictly prohibited and possibly a violation of federal or state law and regulations. If you have received this information in error, please notify Baylor Health Care System immediately at 1-866-402-1661 or via e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baylor Health Care System, its subsidiaries, and affiliates hereby claim all applicable privileges related to this information. __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Distributing self-contained CFMX apps
$200 CFLite :-) --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Luca Unti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:23 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Distributing self-contained CFMX apps an evolution of cfexpress would be incredible useful from my vision of the italian market for small intranet work - keep this option alive ! expecially now with an appealing price for upgrade to the pro version- - many many opportunities - regards, Luca - Original Message - From: BILL BROWN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 10:59 PM Subject: RE: Distributing self-contained CFMX apps Actually, you're exactly right. I was planning on working on interesting apps for underserved markets. The small businesses that could never afford an intranet or custom-developed applications, but is willing to buy prepackaged apps if apps existed to serve their needs. My thought was to develop intranets-in-a-box that used CF Express--message boards that could be used by mechanics or different hotel staff. By developing specific versions customized to a particular niche or industry, you can spread the cost around while creating apps without competitors. I never pursued it because I think CF Express is too limited for some of the things I wanted to do. If CFMX had a full-featured, single IP edition for dirt cheap, the price could be absorbed pretty easily I think. The cool thing for Macromedia is that many businesses outgrow a single PC and require more of a networked solution--meaning they'll have to upgrade to a full-featured CF server. Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/1/02 1:51 PM On that note, I would think it'd be in MM's best interests to develop a method to do this - maybe the Developer Edition? with proper licensing? A version which is in single IP mode immediatly upon install?? I can't help but think how if a tool like this existed, it would get used in a large(er) number of places, thereby promoting sales of the Professional and Enterprise versions. After all, business folks would be caught by the wow factor, or I want to do that too phenomena, boosting interest (and indirectly, sales) in CF. My thoughts, but I closed my one man business cuz I realized I didn't have what it takes when it comes to marketing and accounting. So, maybe I'm blowing chunks with this idea Shawn Grover __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: output cf to html
Hehe.. wouldn't ya know that you can do this with CFSchedule - take a look in cf admin (or can be set up programmatically) - let's you schedule a page, and optionally, save as html - sound like what you want? :-) --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: output cf to html I have this Huge Honking report written in cf it shows exactly what i want. but i don't want a user to run this report every time they hit the page. i would like to know how to have cf-server run the page... but just save it to html every night. so that it gets updated basically once a day. instead of hitting the db every time some one views the cfm page.. any ideas? -paul __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Distributing self-contained CFMX apps
I can see the utility in it, but I'd still like to hear some suggestions as to how to resolve the formatting issue. (what format to use?) --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Distributing self-contained CFMX apps On Wednesday, May 1, 2002, at 02:14 PM, Matthew R. Small wrote: Yes, and this is where the idea of a printer setup in the administrator along with a cfprint tag gets really good too. ahh... I finally understand the need for this! Dick __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Fusebox (was: I like CFMX)
Number of reasons: 1- fb isn't as pervasive in PHP 2- (maybe) php community isn't as tightly knit as cf community, so awareness of fb is less 3- fb originated in cf, so it's probably more limited to cf/php crossovers 4- closed-minded developers are unwilling to adopt a methodology born of a toy language (in their minds) --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: jon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 11:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Fusebox (was: I like CFMX) I've been programming in PHP for a long time... and I have yet to see anyone ever post a fusebox-related question to the PHP list. Weird, no? Is anyone really using it for PHP? (By the way -- I dig into a ton of opensource apps, and I have yet to see it implemented in any of those, either.) -- jon - jon roig senior manager, online production epilepsy foundation site: http://www.epilepsyfoundation.org email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Steve Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Fusebox (was: I like CFMX) http://www.fusebox.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=learn.specification CF and PHP are there, JSP is coming pretty soon. Steve Nelson Dave Watts wrote: There are two books coming out on Fusebox that should help to alleviate the lack of available information on exactly what Fusebox is. John Quarto and I wrote one called Discovering Fusebox 3 and Jeff Peters/Nat Papovich wrote one for New Riders. That will help people who want to find out for themselves what Fusebox is all about. Well, hi, Hal! That's nice and all, but where's the definitive specification? I don't have to shell out for that, do I? It doesn't have to be stimulating reading, it just has to be a specification. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Weird error
Typically, that's means your error's so whacked that even CF doesn't know what's going on. Oftentimes, it's the result of a bad assignment - perhaps using a reserved word for a variable name, assigning to simple variable to a complex scope, or something else really crazy. --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Joshua Tipton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 10:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Weird error Anyone ever seen this error unknown exception condition PCodeDocumentNodeImp::prepareForExecution The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of (CFINCLUDE), occupying document position (270:2) to (270:47) in the template file E:\SER\TSG\APPS\OVERDUEDISPO\OVDCORP\CTMREPORTS\DEFAULT1.CFM. __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Fusebox (was: I like CFMX)
Hehe.. you do realize that if you had been logged in, I could have assumed your session (b/c you gave us cfid and cftoken) Also, I think many are familiar with the php specs (on the fb site and on sourceforge) here - the question was the pervasiveness of php-fb --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 11:13 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Fusebox (was: I like CFMX) From fusebox.org http://www.fusebox.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=specs.phpfusebox30CFID=3105 5CF TOKEN=46609914 Robert Everland III Dixon Ticonderoga Web Developer Extraordinaire -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 12:13 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Fusebox (was: I like CFMX) Number of reasons: 1- fb isn't as pervasive in PHP 2- (maybe) php community isn't as tightly knit as cf community, so awareness of fb is less 3- fb originated in cf, so it's probably more limited to cf/php crossovers 4- closed-minded developers are unwilling to adopt a methodology born of a toy language (in their minds) --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: jon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 11:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Fusebox (was: I like CFMX) I've been programming in PHP for a long time... and I have yet to see anyone ever post a fusebox-related question to the PHP list. Weird, no? Is anyone really using it for PHP? (By the way -- I dig into a ton of opensource apps, and I have yet to see it implemented in any of those, either.) -- jon - jon roig senior manager, online production epilepsy foundation site: http://www.epilepsyfoundation.org email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Steve Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Fusebox (was: I like CFMX) http://www.fusebox.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=learn.specification CF and PHP are there, JSP is coming pretty soon. Steve Nelson Dave Watts wrote: There are two books coming out on Fusebox that should help to alleviate the lack of available information on exactly what Fusebox is. John Quarto and I wrote one called Discovering Fusebox 3 and Jeff Peters/Nat Papovich wrote one for New Riders. That will help people who want to find out for themselves what Fusebox is all about. Well, hi, Hal! That's nice and all, but where's the definitive specification? I don't have to shell out for that, do I? It doesn't have to be stimulating reading, it just has to be a specification. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFStudio DWMX hiccups
It hasn't been pushed out the door yet. It's still in beta/QA. --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Pete Ruckelshaus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 1:33 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFStudio DWMX hiccups Geeze. Are good QA people really that hard to find, or is this just another product that is getting pushed out the door way too soon? I'm surprised they aren't calling this DreamWeaverXP... Pete - Original Message - From: Erika L Walker-Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:04 PM Subject: RE: CFStudio DWMX hiccups Here's a BAD hiccup. I have a file name that's pretty long (26 characters). Not hugely long, but apparently longer than Dreamweaver wants it. It was ok, until I clicked on the actual file on the left to copy the name of it to use in my code, then when I clicked off it, it kept telling me the name was too long in a popup, I don't want to change it. I alt-tabbed to switch to Outlook to write this post, I just switched back to count the letters, and Dreamweaver let go of the file. I clicked back on the file, then tried to click off again, same message. This is unacceptableworkarounds? Anybody else get this? Erika __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: British Pound symbol in a .txt upload file
Verify that ASCII character code of the symbol in question ( you can load the file with a scripting language like cf or vbscript, and use a function like asc() ) --- Billy Cravens Web and Software Consulting www.Architechx.com -Original Message- From: Casey C Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: British Pound symbol in a .txt upload file Hello - We have a UK client uploading a .txt (comma separated) file to a varchar 100 field in our database. The piece of data their trying to upload includes a British Pound symbol and when the user is viewing a report to check their data, the symbol has been replaced by the letter u with a tick over it. Has anyone heard of such a thing? Casey Cook __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Access table names
This will work; note that you must make the system tables visible (they are hidden by default) --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Scott Brader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:53 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Access table names You can get a list of all tables in an Access database by querying the system tables. The system tables will all start with MSys. All of the other records returned by the query will be the rest of the tables in the database. SELECT MSysObjects.Name FROM MSysObjects WHERE (((MSysObjects.Type)=1)); This may not be the best choice, but it works. Scott Scott Brader Prairie Software Development LLC 101 East Sadd Street PO Box 235 North Prairie, WI 53153-0235 Phone: 262.392.9173 Fax: 262.392.9174 Toll Free: 888.821.3427 Mobile: 262.490.1376 http://www.prairiesoftdev.com Amateurs practice until they get it right, Experts practice until they can't get it wrong. -Original Message- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 14:49 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Access table names I'd try the sp_tables like in SQL Server, and if not that, then I'd try the SHOW command. My mind tells me that one of these works, but can't remember which one. Jerry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/30/02 03:32PM I'm not liking Access this morning. I'm a bit cranky that it won't let me unload tables. I think I need to drink more coffee. Anyhoo, I'm hoping to find a way to select the names of all of the tables in a database using SQL. I've already searched google and the MS website, and I can't find a way to do it. Does anybody know how I can do this easily and in SQL? I hoping for a select * from [schematablename] like I can do in SQL server and Oracle. But since I can't unload, I'm not counting on it to be available. A, to be onsite and not have my books with me -- If you hate the interface, blame Kevin. __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFMX = Neo ?
Still there - Ctrl-Alt-Delete, End Process :-) --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Shawn Regan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX = Neo ? I miss the Close All function :( -Shawn Regan -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 9:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX = Neo ? And actually, right click on the tab itself (beneath the document) and you can close, save, etc. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 12:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX = Neo ? Y'all know you can hand-code to your heart's desire in DWMX, right? Just go to the code view, and have at it! I was a huge fan of CF Studio, but I've also been a big fan of DW. I have to say that in DWMX, I feel I can work in either mode, but after using it for about a month, I find that I switch back forth depending on the task at hand. I saw that someone else mentioned that they were dissappointed that the right-click close-file wasn't in DWMX. I have to agree on that point, but hey, I'm amazed at how the engineers merged the functionalities of the two programs! I for one will be sending in a request that they add that to the right-click on the doc window-menu by using the feature request bug report form at: http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform -Original Message- From: Jeff Green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 6:58 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX = Neo ? Is Macromedia Studio MX, CF Studio 6? Not exactly. CF Studio, as we knew it, is an end-of-life product. It's being replaced with Dreamweaver MX (one of the components of Studio MX, I think), which is supposed to combine the best features of the previous versions of Dreamweaver Ultradev and CF Studio. The above is scary since I never really liked dreamweaver/ultradev too much, or for that matter any code/html generators. Just let me keep my Studio! :) Jeff __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Access table names
You simply have to enable viewing of the system tables: Tools-Options-View --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: mr_urc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 3:08 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Access table names Quoting Scott Brader [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You can get a list of all tables in an Access database by querying the system tables. The system tables will all start with MSys. All of the other records returned by the query will be the rest of the tables in the database. SELECT MSysObjects.Name FROM MSysObjects WHERE (((MSysObjects.Type)=1)); This may not be the best choice, but it works. This seems to be what I was looking for. Unfortunately, I get this: Record(s) cannot be read; no read permission on 'MSysObjects'. THWARTED AT EVERY TURN! Clearly, Access has a will of it's own and it wants me to have a bad day. But I'll show it. I'll just tell my boss we're going to do this on a weekend instead of today. We have the least hits on Saturday. Thanks anyway! -- If you hate the interface, blame Kevin. __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Reclaiming Ctrl-3 (was: RE: CFStudio DWMX hiccups)
Wouldn't that just be a snippet, with a kb shortcut assigned to it? --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Erika L Walker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 3:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Reclaiming Ctrl-3 (was: RE: CFStudio DWMX hiccups) Excellent. Had to take away the shortcut for a h3 tag before I could do it, but I have it now! Thank you very much! What about custom shortcuts, can we still create those? Didn't see that. Like surrounding vars with '#varname#' for SQL statements ... Always a timesaver Erika | -Original Message- | From: Jeff Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: 30 April 2002 21:19 | To: CF-Talk | Subject: Reclaiming Ctrl-3 (was: RE: CFStudio DWMX hiccups) | | | Here are the steps to get your Ctrl-3 back: | | 1. Edit - Keyboard Shortcuts | 2. Select Menu Commands in the commands select box | 3. Expand Insert | 4. Expand CF Basic Objects | 5. Select Surround with #'s | 6. In the Press Key text field, hit Ctrl-3 | 7. Hit the Change Button | | v/r, | Jeff | | -Original Message- | From: Erika L Walker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 3:26 PM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: RE: CFStudio DWMX hiccups | | | What about the shortcut's? Like Ctrl 3 for surrounding a | variable with #'s? I went into Keyboard shortcut's, but | couldn't figure out how to add it back. | | Erika | | | -Original Message- | | From: Neil Clark - =TMM= [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | | Sent: 30 April 2002 19:22 | | To: CF-Talk | | Subject: RE: CFStudio DWMX hiccups | | | | | | If you mean like CFStudio then you can't. | | | | | | | | Neil Clark | | Team Macromedia | | http://www.macromedia.com/go/team | | | | Announcing Macromedia MX!! | | http://www.macromedia.com/software/trial/. | | | | | | | | __ | | This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by | | CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. | | FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq | | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ | | Unsubscribe: | http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?| sidebar=lists | | | | | | | | __ | Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the | official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm | FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ | Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists | __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFX C++ API Documentation/Tutorials
I've found absolutely nothing. What I found in Wrox's CF book was pretty pathetic too, but a bit more than the documentation contains. (Don't have Forta's Advanced book handy, so can't comment on its coverage) OT: Ever wonder why we still call it the Forta book, when he's listed as the editor (according to Amazon), not to mention nine other authors? :-P --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Wallick, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 4:10 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFX C++ API Documentation/Tutorials Anyone know where I can get an API reference for building C++ CFX tags? The docs that come with CF server/studio are less than helpful. Mike Wallick Web Application Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 651.628.5377 http://www.securecomputing.com http://www.securecomputing.com/ __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFX C++ API Documentation/Tutorials
The Wrox book really does nothing other than list the classes available, and has some fairly useless examples. For an experience C++ coder, probably sufficient. For a light C++ guy like me, I managed to hack some stuff out using the Wrox book (after six beers no less ! ;) If you're a CF person with little or no C++ experience and thought you just had to get some of that, forget about it. --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 4:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFX C++ API Documentation/Tutorials They are pretty light. Make sure you look at both the Developing ColdFusion MX Applications and the CFML Reference. They both have information. Ben Forta's advanced book has information on CFX C++ (at least the 4.0 version did ). I'd be surprised if the WROX Professional CF book doesn't have it. At 04:10 PM 4/30/2002 -0500, you wrote: Anyone know where I can get an API reference for building C++ CFX tags? The docs that come with CF server/studio are less than helpful. Mike Wallick Web Application Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 651.628.5377 http://www.securecomputing.com http://www.securecomputing.com/ __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFMX
WS Pro isn't a J2EE engine. --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Bud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 8:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFMX On 4/29/02, Raymond Camden penned: I assume everyone knows this, but if you haven't gone to www.macromedia.com this morning - you should... right now. ;) Question: Under web servers in the system requirements section, WebSite Pro is glaringly absent. How come? Will it run under WS? -- Bud Schneehagen - Tropical Web Creations _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ ColdFusion Solutions / eCommerce Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.twcreations.com/ 954.721.3452 __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFMX
The same as there is now. Native, no. --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Matthew R. Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 9:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX OK, now that the cat's out of the bag... is there, by chance, any support for printing, either local or across the internet? - Matt Small -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:12 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX Question: Under web servers in the system requirements section, WebSite Pro is glaringly absent. How come? Will it run under WS? I don't know the definitive answer to this, but I think that the final version will support WebSite. I'm basing this on the fact that JRun 3.1 currently supports WebSite. Keep in mind that the CF MX preview may not be fully feature-complete; it's a preview. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFMX
That is a good point. Perhaps someone from MM can clarify where the NDA stands now, since we're in that twilight zone - still beta, but publicly announced. --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 9:19 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX The cat isn't fully out of the bad as the preview release isn't feature complete. -Matt -Original Message- From: Matthew R. Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 7:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX OK, now that the cat's out of the bag... is there, by chance, any support for printing, either local or across the internet? - Matt Small -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:12 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX Question: Under web servers in the system requirements section, WebSite Pro is glaringly absent. How come? Will it run under WS? I don't know the definitive answer to this, but I think that the final version will support WebSite. I'm basing this on the fact that JRun 3.1 currently supports WebSite. Keep in mind that the CF MX preview may not be fully feature-complete; it's a preview. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFMX
I don't like the idea of an app server performing hardware-related functionality - otherwise we'd need cfscan, cfwebcam, cfsound, etc. :-) Besides, think of how printing works - you write a file to the mail spool. What format would a server-side print app use? Why bother when there's already a number of applications (Word, PDF apps, etc) that do this quite well? --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Matthew R. Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 9:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX Yes, I meant local printing from the server and native support - like a printer setup in the administrator; a CFPRINT tag... sigh I do it already using COM and Word. It works but it's a pain in the butt. - Matt Small -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:19 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX You mean printing via CF, on the _client_ box? That's impossible (unless you use some kind of activex or java ob). If you mean on the server - all you would need to do is use a command line call w/ cfexecute. === Raymond Camden, Principal Spectra Compliance Engineer for Macromedia Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo IM : morpheus My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. - Yoda -Original Message- From: Matthew R. Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX OK, now that the cat's out of the bag... is there, by chance, any support for printing, either local or across the internet? - Matt Small -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:12 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX Question: Under web servers in the system requirements section, WebSite Pro is glaringly absent. How come? Will it run under WS? I don't know the definitive answer to this, but I think that the final version will support WebSite. I'm basing this on the fact that JRun 3.1 currently supports WebSite. Keep in mind that the CF MX preview may not be fully feature-complete; it's a preview. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
CFMX/.NET - buzzword bingo
Is the architecture of CFMX going to be totally rewritten? I keep hearing the words supports the .NET Framework being thrown around. Where? How? Just b/c it runs on MS servers, and has support for SOAP/Web Services, doesn't make it integrated with the .NET framework. (CFMX in no way supports the CLR) --- Billy Cravens __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFMX etc etc .....
CF Studio is being rebranded as Homesite+. (the name Studio would probably conflict with the new MM Studio MX suite) --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Simon Whittaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 9:01 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Fw: CFMX etc etc . Was just reading forta.com - am I to understand that the new version of dreamweaver is in fact the new code editing environment for CF and that studio MX will not be released? Cheers Simon __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF MX
How so? Anyone can download MX and run their own benchmarks. --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 9:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF MX That information is NDA at this point. -Matt -Original Message- From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 7:28 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF MX Now that i'm at a new job i need tow ork my bosses over to get them to upgrade from CF 4 (ugh) to cF MX. i need to find a page that shows the performance stats compared to older versions any ideas? Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Ediets.com Macromedia Certified Coldfusion Developer 954.360.9022 X159 __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF MX
Jump over to the Neo forums on the beta site - Libby English of Macromedia : You can now discuss all aspects of the new CF release... --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 9:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF MX That information is NDA at this point. -Matt -Original Message- From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 7:28 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF MX Now that i'm at a new job i need tow ork my bosses over to get them to upgrade from CF 4 (ugh) to cF MX. i need to find a page that shows the performance stats compared to older versions any ideas? Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Ediets.com Macromedia Certified Coldfusion Developer 954.360.9022 X159 __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFMX/.NET - buzzword bingo
Ok, that makes sense. On the .NET side of the fence (in spite of what Microsoft marketing/management says) most developers would say that the .NET framework encompasses the CLR. However, what others consider NET integration is merely Web services compliance - in no way specific to .NET (it's an open specification). However, you could achieve integration with the CLR by coding up some classes in VB/C# that work with the CLR, and then expose that classes via a web service, which CF could then talk to (essentially the same thing as COM) consume .NET services - do they mean the CLR, or Web services? If web services, nice job of Microsoft of taking an open specification and making it sound like it belongs to them. This is probably a matter of nomenclature - Microsoft has made the term .NET framework pretty ambiguous, representing a number of things (to me, framework = CLR) --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 9:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX/.NET - buzzword bingo Which is why it says supports the .NET framework and not is a .NET whatever. Actually, FYI, a while back I asked a .NET Product Manager at Microsoft What must CF do to integrate with .NET?. His response, consume .NET services. CFMX does that. It also lets you create services for .NET (easier than you could in any .NET language), it runs on .NET servers, and can also invoke objects running in the CLR (even though it does not run in the CLR itself). So yep, definitely supports the .NET framework. :-) --- Ben -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:41 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFMX/.NET - buzzword bingo Is the architecture of CFMX going to be totally rewritten? I keep hearing the words supports the .NET Framework being thrown around. Where? How? Just b/c it runs on MS servers, and has support for SOAP/Web Services, doesn't make it integrated with the .NET framework. (CFMX in no way supports the CLR) --- Billy Cravens __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFMX/.NET - buzzword bingo
I'm well aware of that - part of me gets bad vibes when the term .NET support is used to describe support for an open standard - SOAP. So you could say: NET support Apache support Sun support Etc. That's kinda like saying you support IIS when you really only support HTTP --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 9:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX/.NET - buzzword bingo Don't get fooled by marketing speak. The only support for .NET that has been publicly announced is done using SOAP. -Matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 7:41 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFMX/.NET - buzzword bingo Is the architecture of CFMX going to be totally rewritten? I keep hearing the words supports the .NET Framework being thrown around. Where? How? Just b/c it runs on MS servers, and has support for SOAP/Web Services, doesn't make it integrated with the .NET framework. (CFMX in no way supports the CLR) --- Billy Cravens __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFMX
And if you've never tried to work with printing from ColdFusion I have, and have never had a problem. I enjoyed utilizing a solution that was not CF specific, so that it was quite portable. I think that printing would be problematic, considering how it would need to be implemented - ASCII? HTML? RTF? PDF? You have to send something to the printer, that the print driver knows how to render. This would be a pretty significant undertaking, to do the rendering. Or, you let the applications that already know how to render and spool do it, as you do now. When I develop a non-web application that uses a pre-defined format, I don't have to redevelop the printing capability - I simply utilize an existing object. This is why CF doesn't have it's own SQL engine to integrate with external databases - it uses drivers. --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Matthew R. Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 9:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX OK, so you don't like it. I do. It's a feature that MANY people would love to see. I use it extensively for my intranet applications. Ever notice how many people write to the lists wanting to print locally from the server to generate reports? It's a good idea, something that would make a ton of people happy, including myself. Server generated reports have been a feature of computing for a long time. And if you've never tried to work with printing from ColdFusion, then you don't know what a pain it is. Word, PDF... they do the job, but not quite well. - Matt Small -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:35 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX I don't like the idea of an app server performing hardware-related functionality - otherwise we'd need cfscan, cfwebcam, cfsound, etc. :-) Besides, think of how printing works - you write a file to the mail spool. What format would a server-side print app use? Why bother when there's already a number of applications (Word, PDF apps, etc) that do this quite well? --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Matthew R. Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 9:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX Yes, I meant local printing from the server and native support - like a printer setup in the administrator; a CFPRINT tag... sigh I do it already using COM and Word. It works but it's a pain in the butt. - Matt Small -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:19 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX You mean printing via CF, on the _client_ box? That's impossible (unless you use some kind of activex or java ob). If you mean on the server - all you would need to do is use a command line call w/ cfexecute. === Raymond Camden, Principal Spectra Compliance Engineer for Macromedia Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo IM : morpheus My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. - Yoda -Original Message- From: Matthew R. Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX OK, now that the cat's out of the bag... is there, by chance, any support for printing, either local or across the internet? - Matt Small -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:12 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX Question: Under web servers in the system requirements section, WebSite Pro is glaringly absent. How come? Will it run under WS? I don't know the definitive answer to this, but I think that the final version will support WebSite. I'm basing this on the fact that JRun 3.1 currently supports WebSite. Keep in mind that the CF MX preview may not be fully feature-complete; it's a preview. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF MX
Yeah, but not covered by NDA ;) --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 9:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF MX It is a preview release that is not feature complete or performance tuned. Any benchmark based on a preview release would be silly at best. -Matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 7:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF MX How so? Anyone can download MX and run their own benchmarks. --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 9:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF MX That information is NDA at this point. -Matt -Original Message- From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 7:28 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF MX Now that i'm at a new job i need tow ork my bosses over to get them to upgrade from CF 4 (ugh) to cF MX. i need to find a page that shows the performance stats compared to older versions any ideas? Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Ediets.com Macromedia Certified Coldfusion Developer 954.360.9022 X159 __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Fw: CFMX etc etc .....
3 posts from Ben in one day - something's wrong with the world - man, I feel woozy --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:24 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Fw: CFMX etc etc . Bingo! -Original Message- From: Carlisle, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:19 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Fw: CFMX etc etc . I downloaded the prerelease of Dreamweaver MX and noticed it grew a few features that seemed Homesite-ISH (not to mention the Homesite View/Coder style workspace option. I always thought that the combined design view of DW and code view of Homesite/CFS would create an incredible editor. I hope that's the direction that Macromedia is heading in. EC -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Fw: CFMX etc etc . Dreamweaver MX will come with HomeSite +, which is ColdFusion Studio. However, I believe that since the fact that ColdFusion Studio / Homesite is not being re-branded under the MX name says a lot about Macromedia's commitment to it. At 03:01 PM 4/29/2002 +0100, you wrote: Was just reading forta.com - am I to understand that the new version of dreamweaver is in fact the new code editing environment for CF and that studio MX will not be released? Cheers Simon __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Dreamweaver MX Functionality?? (was: CFMX etc etc)
Hehe.. everyone should try notepad and the command line interface to the their database (ie, isql.exe) for a few months - then any IDE will seem nice ;^) --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Dreamweaver MX Functionality?? (was: CFMX etc etc) :-) We've all been there. I used to swear by Brief, and then SAGE, and then CodeWrite (which I still use for specific tasks) ... switching editors often feels as unnatural as replacing body parts (I assume, don't actually know that for sure). -Original Message- From: Carlisle, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:41 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Dreamweaver MX Functionality?? (was: CFMX etc etc) Well, developers become emotionally attached to their development tools, but ... Probably the only reason the vi editor is still around... ;-) *runs away before the penguins get him* EC __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)
Doesn't CF5 have some performance gains/stability benefits? I don't think there's any cfsometag is 25% faster but I believe that it has better memory management than prior version. (CF5) --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) No performance advantage really. You should upgrade for the new features though. -Matt -Original Message- From: Matthew R. Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 8:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) So, in a small company like mine, where I have maybe 5 people using CF at once on an intranet application, (I also use CF from a shared host) there is no advantage to going to MX? I'm still waiting for a great reason to upgrade to CF 5.0. - Matt Small -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:11 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) Yup, you're right. Well in that case on with the ensuing flame war. First the caveats; CFMX has not been tuned for performance yet according to MM. With that aside, I have been working with Neo since the alpha days and have seen it change quite a bit since then. During that time I have learned that CFMX will have a performance threshold very close to that of JSP. For those of you who don't know, JSP doesn't actually perform that well. On a single server, a properly built CF 5 application would blow away a properly built JSP application. This is a fact that can be easily proved today. However, JSP is more scalable than CF 5. This is an important distinction depending on what type of load your application is planning on supporting. If you are a shared hosting provider, you will be able to support less web applications on the same server than with CF 5. If you maintain a small site that only uses a single server, you will need more server resources to provide the same level of performance you are used today with CF 5. With all that being said, if you currently run a web application that depends on more than one CF server, CFMX is going to be great. Using J2EE, you will be able to partition your application on top different servers to increase its scalability. With a properly built CFMX application you will be able to simply add more servers as needed. -Matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 7:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF MX Jump over to the Neo forums on the beta site - Libby English of Macromedia : You can now discuss all aspects of the new CF release... --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 9:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF MX That information is NDA at this point. -Matt -Original Message- From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 7:28 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF MX Now that i'm at a new job i need tow ork my bosses over to get them to upgrade from CF 4 (ugh) to cF MX. i need to find a page that shows the performance stats compared to older versions any ideas? Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Ediets.com Macromedia Certified Coldfusion Developer 954.360.9022 X159 __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)
1) provides a standardized means of calling - using CFHTTP, I have to know what variables to send, and what's coming out - using CFC, I can determine through introspection what you need and what to expect - also, not a custom interface, uses object development standards (properties and methods) 2) can be implemented as a web service, complying to SOAP standards --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Matthew R. Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:35 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) How is this different than calling a CFM page via cfhttp? -Original Message- From: Mike Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 12:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) ColdFusionMX components. create the code once and then call it from: 1. Cold Fusion pages 2. other components 3. Flash via flash remoting 4. anywhere on the internet via web services. for example: helloWorld.cfc cfcomponent cffunction name=sayHello access=remote cfreturn Hello World / /cffunction /cfcomponent then call it like so: helloWorld.cfc?wsdl voila, instant web service. mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) So, in a small company like mine, where I have maybe 5 people using CF at once on an intranet application, (I also use CF from a shared host) there is no advantage to going to MX? I'm still waiting for a great reason to upgrade to CF 5.0. Sure, there are lots of reasons! They're not necessarily performance reasons, though: 1. The ability to publish and consume web services, 2. Verity K2 (since you're not even on CF 5 yet) is much faster than the previous version of Verity, 3. A working Advanced Security interface for developers (Sandbox security), 4. Charting, 5. and much, much more! CFCs, UDFs (again, since you're not on CF 5) ... Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Synching with a PDA?
I don't think it's a matter of simply creating a file. You could do that, but you'd still need to develop a conduit application that resides on the desktop. An alternative (which might not fit your needs, and it sounds like you're aware of) would be to create a web page that the user grabs via AvantGo. --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 12:39 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Synching with a PDA? Anyone here have experience using CF to generate a file that is then synched with a Palm-based PDA? I'm not talking about using clipping - I'm talking about something where my client plugs her PDA into the cradle and automatically synchs her address book or some such from the web... Ian Portent Interactive Helping clients build customer relationships on the web since 1995 Consulting, design, development, measurement http://www.portentinteractive.com Talk with us: http://projects.portentinteractive.com __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)
My bad. The original question was about upgrading to 5, so that's what I thought you were talking about. Oops. On that note, there's definitely some performance gains 5-MX, but I'm not going to rehash what others have said. --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 1:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) I was talking about CF 5 to CFMX. Hope I didn't confuse anyone. -Matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 8:55 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) Doesn't CF5 have some performance gains/stability benefits? I don't think there's any cfsometag is 25% faster but I believe that it has better memory management than prior version. (CF5) --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) No performance advantage really. You should upgrade for the new features though. -Matt -Original Message- From: Matthew R. Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 8:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) So, in a small company like mine, where I have maybe 5 people using CF at once on an intranet application, (I also use CF from a shared host) there is no advantage to going to MX? I'm still waiting for a great reason to upgrade to CF 5.0. - Matt Small -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:11 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) Yup, you're right. Well in that case on with the ensuing flame war. First the caveats; CFMX has not been tuned for performance yet according to MM. With that aside, I have been working with Neo since the alpha days and have seen it change quite a bit since then. During that time I have learned that CFMX will have a performance threshold very close to that of JSP. For those of you who don't know, JSP doesn't actually perform that well. On a single server, a properly built CF 5 application would blow away a properly built JSP application. This is a fact that can be easily proved today. However, JSP is more scalable than CF 5. This is an important distinction depending on what type of load your application is planning on supporting. If you are a shared hosting provider, you will be able to support less web applications on the same server than with CF 5. If you maintain a small site that only uses a single server, you will need more server resources to provide the same level of performance you are used today with CF 5. With all that being said, if you currently run a web application that depends on more than one CF server, CFMX is going to be great. Using J2EE, you will be able to partition your application on top different servers to increase its scalability. With a properly built CFMX application you will be able to simply add more servers as needed. -Matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 7:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF MX Jump over to the Neo forums on the beta site - Libby English of Macromedia : You can now discuss all aspects of the new CF release... --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 9:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF MX That information is NDA at this point. -Matt -Original Message- From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 7:28 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF MX Now that i'm at a new job i need tow ork my bosses over to get them to upgrade from CF 4 (ugh) to cF MX. i need to find a page that shows the performance stats compared to older versions any ideas? Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Ediets.com Macromedia Certified Coldfusion Developer 954.360.9022 X159 __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)
Hmm.. every code benchmark I've run says that MX (even in the debug/beta stages) is faster than 5.. I'll try to post some benchmarking code when I get the opportunity --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:08 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) Anything built on top of J2EE is going to be slower on a single machine. If you are looking for a fast server-side scripting language, your choices are PHP, CF 5, and a few niche players. If you don't mind buying a bunch of machines than something based on J2EE would be the better choice. CFMX fits in this category. -Matt -Original Message- From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 9:23 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) I for one find speed to be a major deciding factor, I really like that it is J2EE compliant, buzzword, buzzword compliant, buzzword this, but I can tell all you Macromedia guys this, if it isn't faster, I won't be able to upgrade here. It will be a customer relations nightmare, an app that once performed blazingly fast now stalls left and right, I can't be having that, if I test out MX and it really is slower, I will have no choice, but to invest my time and resources into another platform for the web that does things faster. So whatever you do make this a priority, I am sure I am not the only person who thinks this way, heck most of the arguments between ASP and CF for the past 3 years has been that ASP is super fast and CF is super slow when in actuallity they are very close to each other. If MX is that much slower a lot of us will not be able to fight the good battle anymore in defending CF. Robert Everland III Dixon Ticonderoga Web Developer Extraordinaire -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 12:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) Jesse, Yes, subsequent requests ARE faster than initial requests. But I have to say they are still painfully slow when compaired to CF 5. Slow enough to be a non-starter for some of our aps. In addition, if you plan on selling web services you already have a big latency problem that you are constantly battling. Anything time saved on the server greatly benefits the user experience - so this is a real issue for the brave new world. NET's CLR is blazingly fast at delivering web service content. CFMX must compete favorably with it to gain headway in the web services arena. -mk P.S. - yeah yeah, I know it's not optimized. But let's be honest, as a rule, JSP is pretty doggy. -Original Message- From: Jesse Noller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) Also think about the performance that you're seeing right now. On first run, a CFMX page compiles. The pages are no longer interpreted on the fly. This means your initial First Hit is going to take a few seconds, but every request after this is going to much faster. It's a complaint we've seen on the forums, Ie, I just installed, why is the admin so slow the answer is simple, the admin is compiling itself for the first time. If you hit the admin after the first time, you'll note it's much snappier. The initial compile bump is being examined and worked on, but it does not change the fact that the pages are being COMPILED, not interpreted as presvious versions. As for Matt's comment about JSP, this should not be the case in the end. I know I for one want CFMX to be as fast, and faster still, then CF5. This is our goal. -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) So, in a small company like mine, where I have maybe 5 people using CF at once on an intranet application, (I also use CF from a shared host) there is no advantage to going to MX? I'm still waiting for a great reason to upgrade to CF 5.0. Sure, there are lots of reasons! They're not necessarily performance reasons, though: 1. The ability to publish and consume web services, 2. Verity K2 (since you're not even on CF 5 yet) is much faster than the previous version of Verity, 3. A working Advanced Security interface for developers (Sandbox security), 4. Charting, 5. and much, much more! CFCs, UDFs (again, since you're not on CF 5) ... Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community.
RE: CFMX OS X [rant]
A Mac has some significant advantages for web developers. For example: you can easily and inexpensively run multiple concurrent platforms (Win 9x, Win NT, Win 200, Win MX, Linux, OS X, etc) to test the look and feel of an application in these environments... you can do this all on a machine that costs under $800 and takes up less than15 cubic inches of desk space Then couldn't you run CFMX on one of those variants of Windows or Linux? --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:31 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFMX OS X [rant] rant Umm... very disappointed that MX does not run on OS X... I was hoping... At least as a developer platform, if not as a deployment platform. I am told that is no business case for MM to release CFMX for OS X? I read somewhere, that with the release of OS X, overnight, the Apple logo was on more 'nix workstations than any other. Not to mention. that every Mac ships with OS X, integrated: Apache, Java, etc already installed and ready to use (also Perl and pHp). No separate installs, service packs, downloads... it's all there... part of OS X. I got the feeling that maybe MM looked at Apple's WebObjects (WO) as competition (or vice versa)... but then the MM hookup with IBM shows (potentially) how two competitors can cooperate to the benefit of both (and their customers). I think CFMX WO would integrate nicely (Note, WO, for $700, includes GUI programming/debugging interfaces, and an operational SQL database) Finally, CFMXOSXWO... what a natural for an acronym... it would be on everyones' lips... /rant Dick __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)
Kinda like a lie detector test - if you pass, then you're cool. If you fail, it's not admissible. ;-) If CFMX, in preview form, beats 5, then I'm sure that the gold code would widen the margin. But if 5 is faster, then we can say, but it's only preview ... (I recall that the alpha spanked 5 in a number of tests I ran) --- Billy Cravens Web and Software Consulting www.Architechx.com -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:30 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) why bother to benchmark test if it's not the final version..is anybody paying attention to the preview potion of preview release ;-) Bryan Stevenson VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 12:13 PM Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) Hmm.. every code benchmark I've run says that MX (even in the debug/beta stages) is faster than 5.. I'll try to post some benchmarking code when I get the opportunity --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:08 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) Anything built on top of J2EE is going to be slower on a single machine. If you are looking for a fast server-side scripting language, your choices are PHP, CF 5, and a few niche players. If you don't mind buying a bunch of machines than something based on J2EE would be the better choice. CFMX fits in this category. -Matt -Original Message- From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 9:23 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) I for one find speed to be a major deciding factor, I really like that it is J2EE compliant, buzzword, buzzword compliant, buzzword this, but I can tell all you Macromedia guys this, if it isn't faster, I won't be able to upgrade here. It will be a customer relations nightmare, an app that once performed blazingly fast now stalls left and right, I can't be having that, if I test out MX and it really is slower, I will have no choice, but to invest my time and resources into another platform for the web that does things faster. So whatever you do make this a priority, I am sure I am not the only person who thinks this way, heck most of the arguments between ASP and CF for the past 3 years has been that ASP is super fast and CF is super slow when in actuallity they are very close to each other. If MX is that much slower a lot of us will not be able to fight the good battle anymore in defending CF. Robert Everland III Dixon Ticonderoga Web Developer Extraordinaire -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 12:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) Jesse, Yes, subsequent requests ARE faster than initial requests. But I have to say they are still painfully slow when compaired to CF 5. Slow enough to be a non-starter for some of our aps. In addition, if you plan on selling web services you already have a big latency problem that you are constantly battling. Anything time saved on the server greatly benefits the user experience - so this is a real issue for the brave new world. NET's CLR is blazingly fast at delivering web service content. CFMX must compete favorably with it to gain headway in the web services arena. -mk P.S. - yeah yeah, I know it's not optimized. But let's be honest, as a rule, JSP is pretty doggy. -Original Message- From: Jesse Noller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) Also think about the performance that you're seeing right now. On first run, a CFMX page compiles. The pages are no longer interpreted on the fly. This means your initial First Hit is going to take a few seconds, but every request after this is going to much faster. It's a complaint we've seen on the forums, Ie, I just installed, why is the admin so slow the answer is simple, the admin is compiling itself for the first time. If you hit the admin after the first time, you'll note it's much snappier. The initial compile bump is being examined and worked on, but it does not change the fact that the pages are being COMPILED, not interpreted as presvious versions. As for Matt's
RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)
I *am* suggesting benchmarking it - would prove or disprove your statement (as opposed to a J2EE can't keep up sound-byte) --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:36 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) I wasn't suggesting benchmarking it; that will come in time. I am just pointing out that J2EE can't keep up with CF 5, so CFMX won't be able to either. -Matt -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 12:30 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) why bother to benchmark test if it's not the final version..is anybody paying attention to the preview potion of preview release ;-) Bryan Stevenson VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 12:13 PM Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) Hmm.. every code benchmark I've run says that MX (even in the debug/beta stages) is faster than 5.. I'll try to post some benchmarking code when I get the opportunity --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:08 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) Anything built on top of J2EE is going to be slower on a single machine. If you are looking for a fast server-side scripting language, your choices are PHP, CF 5, and a few niche players. If you don't mind buying a bunch of machines than something based on J2EE would be the better choice. CFMX fits in this category. -Matt -Original Message- From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 9:23 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) I for one find speed to be a major deciding factor, I really like that it is J2EE compliant, buzzword, buzzword compliant, buzzword this, but I can tell all you Macromedia guys this, if it isn't faster, I won't be able to upgrade here. It will be a customer relations nightmare, an app that once performed blazingly fast now stalls left and right, I can't be having that, if I test out MX and it really is slower, I will have no choice, but to invest my time and resources into another platform for the web that does things faster. So whatever you do make this a priority, I am sure I am not the only person who thinks this way, heck most of the arguments between ASP and CF for the past 3 years has been that ASP is super fast and CF is super slow when in actuallity they are very close to each other. If MX is that much slower a lot of us will not be able to fight the good battle anymore in defending CF. Robert Everland III Dixon Ticonderoga Web Developer Extraordinaire -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 12:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) Jesse, Yes, subsequent requests ARE faster than initial requests. But I have to say they are still painfully slow when compaired to CF 5. Slow enough to be a non-starter for some of our aps. In addition, if you plan on selling web services you already have a big latency problem that you are constantly battling. Anything time saved on the server greatly benefits the user experience - so this is a real issue for the brave new world. NET's CLR is blazingly fast at delivering web service content. CFMX must compete favorably with it to gain headway in the web services arena. -mk P.S. - yeah yeah, I know it's not optimized. But let's be honest, as a rule, JSP is pretty doggy. -Original Message- From: Jesse Noller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) Also think about the performance that you're seeing right now. On first run, a CFMX page compiles. The pages are no longer interpreted on the fly. This means your initial First Hit is going to take a few seconds, but every request after this is going to much faster. It's a complaint we've seen on the forums, Ie, I just installed, why is the admin so slow the answer is simple, the admin is compiling itself for the first time. If you hit the admin after the first time, you'll
RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)
Beta testing is the time to post your *complaints* (I prefer to think of them as bug reports, but to each their own) --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) I have been bitching and moaning for quite some time as any MM person can attest to. -Matt -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 12:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) ummm...if you were under the NDA...then you were part of the beta and should have tested...then bitched and moaned ;-) Bryan Stevenson VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 12:22 PM Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) This is the web industry remember. If you move too slow people think you are dead. How long have we been waiting on Neo? How long have we been under NDA where would couldn't point out the problems with Neo? It is high time to start bickering and complaining, so that CF 6.1 will rock. -Matt -Original Message- From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 12:15 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) :) Give the M M boys and girls a chance. We're all free to move to another architecture if we want but i would rather give them a chance to get it right for the final release and then we can bicker and complain about how CF6 will never be as fast as we want it. my 2 credits Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Ediets.com Macromedia Certified Coldfusion Developer 954.360.9022 X159 -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) I wasn't comparing 4.5.1 and 5. In fact in an earlier email I pointed out the almost 400% performance increase between those revisions. However, let's be realistic about what is going to be the determining factor in CFMX performance; the underlying J2EE engine. While I respect your efforts on CF for Linux thus far, I gotta think that IBM has a bit more resources to throw at the problem and they still haven't solved it. -Matt -Original Message- From: Jesse Noller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 8:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) Matt, here is where you and I disagree alot: CF 5 performance than 4.5.1, hands down. Period. Hopefully, when we *release* CFMX, CFMX will be CF5. The performance for the product line has not plateued. It keeps getting faster. For instance: 4.5.1 linux vs. CF5 linux. Show me that the performance is the same. It is *not*. -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) No performance advantage really. You should upgrade for the new features though. -Matt -Original Message- From: Matthew R. Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 8:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) So, in a small company like mine, where I have maybe 5 people using CF at once on an intranet application, (I also use CF from a shared host) there is no advantage to going to MX? I'm still waiting for a great reason to upgrade to CF 5.0. - Matt Small -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:11 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) Yup, you're right. Well in that case on with the ensuing flame war. First the caveats; CFMX has not been tuned for performance yet according to MM. With that aside, I have been working with Neo since the alpha days and have seen it change quite a bit since then. During that time I have learned that CFMX will have a performance threshold very close to that of JSP. For those of you who don't know, JSP doesn't actually perform that well. On a single
RE: cookie problem
What do you mean? Reset the whole thing, or part of it? You should be able to handle it as a list: !--- change to 23,5 --- cfset cookie.value = listSetAt(cookie.value, 2, 5) --- Billy Cravens Web and Software Consulting www.Architechx.com -Original Message- From: LANCASTER, STEVEN M. (JSC-OL) (BAR) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: cookie problem I have a cookie holding a value like useraccess_id's but the problemr I am running into is that my cookie can hold a value like (23,4) I need to break this down to one value and reset the cookie with that value. How do I do that? Steven Lancaster Barrios Technology NASA/JSC 281-244-2444 (voice) [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)
Matt, Based on your statement, I would assume that you have knowledge and experience that I do not possess. (Surely it's not the MM beta program that only super-duper cool dudes are on, since I'm a beta tester as well) I'll benchmark it now, and post my results (along with the code). I'd be interested in seeing your results as well. If MX beats 5, then: 1) the final release will only widen the gap 2) the final release will be slower than a beta, pre-release, debug build (which I highly doubt) But, for a moment, let's say that scientific results mean nothing. That faster numbers on MX have no bearing on whether J2EE can keep up. Let's use logical conclusions based on experience and facts. I (and the rest of cf-talk, I'm sure) would love to hear how pre-compiled byte-code can't keep up with the interpreted code-p-code-executed sequence. Remember, no scientific evidence (per you); only logical conclusions. --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) Except that I can make logical conclusions based on experience and facts now, while you'll have to wait for CFMX to be released, so that you can benchmark it. -Matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 12:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) I *am* suggesting benchmarking it - would prove or disprove your statement (as opposed to a J2EE can't keep up sound-byte) --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:36 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) I wasn't suggesting benchmarking it; that will come in time. I am just pointing out that J2EE can't keep up with CF 5, so CFMX won't be able to either. -Matt -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 12:30 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) why bother to benchmark test if it's not the final version..is anybody paying attention to the preview potion of preview release ;-) Bryan Stevenson VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 12:13 PM Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) Hmm.. every code benchmark I've run says that MX (even in the debug/beta stages) is faster than 5.. I'll try to post some benchmarking code when I get the opportunity --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:08 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) Anything built on top of J2EE is going to be slower on a single machine. If you are looking for a fast server-side scripting language, your choices are PHP, CF 5, and a few niche players. If you don't mind buying a bunch of machines than something based on J2EE would be the better choice. CFMX fits in this category. -Matt -Original Message- From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 9:23 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) I for one find speed to be a major deciding factor, I really like that it is J2EE compliant, buzzword, buzzword compliant, buzzword this, but I can tell all you Macromedia guys this, if it isn't faster, I won't be able to upgrade here. It will be a customer relations nightmare, an app that once performed blazingly fast now stalls left and right, I can't be having that, if I test out MX and it really is slower, I will have no choice, but to invest my time and resources into another platform for the web that does things faster. So whatever you do make this a priority, I am sure I am not the only person who thinks this way, heck most of the arguments between ASP and CF for the past 3 years has been that ASP is super fast and CF is super slow when in actuallity they are very close to each other. If MX is that much slower a lot of us will not be able to fight the good battle anymore in defending CF. Robert Everland III Dixon Ticonderoga Web Developer Extraordinaire -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG
RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)
What's the URL to this ZDNet article? What J2EE container were they using? --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 3:11 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX) can you send the links / benchmarks you are seeing comparing j2ee performance to cf5? These were benchmarks I performed on my own, so no. However, I do remember at least seeing Zdnet post a benchmark that showed CF 5 ahead of J2EE. Additionally, it allows ColdFusion to leverage the strengths of the J2EE platform--mainly the performance boost you get from using compiled byte code... Certainly you will get some performance boots this way. For example, number crunching will be significantly faster this way. However, the weight of a request is much higher with J2EE, so lean requests in CF 5 will simply out perform J2EE because of less overhead. also, keep in mind that we are talking about a new version of a j2ee server (jrun) which could be significantly faster than past editions. Finally, since a lot of the final development is focused on performance tuning, it really is too early to determine where CFMX with fall performance wise. I wasn't really referring to JRun since there are faster J2EE servers out there. However, I am sure you can't fault my logic that CFMX isn't going to out perform a J2EE server since it is bases on a J2EE server. Thus, any comparisons between CF 5 and J2EE servers seem quite valid. -Matt __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: ActiveX DLL to return a collection with CFOBJECT
Looks like you're trying to handle the ADO recordset being returned like you would in ASP. Note that CF really doesn't know how to handle ADO recordsets - you'll probably want to write a wrapper object (or change the current one) to place the recordset into an array (which I *think* CF has no problem with) --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: David Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 10:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: ActiveX DLL to return a collection with CFOBJECT Hi All, I'm a new subscriber to the list and about 3 projects new to CF. I recently posted a message but was unsure if it got to the rest of you. So please paron me if you receive this as a dubplicate. I am having trouble returning a collection with the cfobject command. Any help would be appreciated. I have an ActiveX Dll with the Prog-ID:ghZipLocator.clsghZipLocator inside that I have a method/function called GetCompanyNames. GetCompanyNames returns a recordset. Which works well in ASP. Here is my code for the getCompanyNames method in Prog-ID:ghZipLocator.clsghZipLocator. You will see it is very simple. Public Function getCompanyNames(ByVal strDsn As String, ByVal strDsnUserid As String, ByVal _ strDsnPasswd As String) As Variant On Error GoTo err1 Dim connlogin As New ADODB.Connection Dim rsResult As New ADODB.Recordset Dim sqlCompany As String connlogin.Open strDsn, strDsnUserid, strDsnPasswd sqlCompany = SELECT Company_Name, CompanyID _ FROM GH_COMPANY_INFO Set rsResult = connlogin.Execute(sqlCompany) Set getCompanyNames = rsResult Exit Function err1: Err.Raise Err.Number, Err.Source, Err.Description End Function Here is my CF code. CFSET dsnname = gHarvest CFSET dsnuser = sa CFSET dsnpass = CFOBJECT ACTION=Create NAME=obj CLASS=ghZipLocator.clsghZipLocator CFSET MyRecordset=obj.GetCompanyNames(#dsnname#,#dsnuser#,#dsnpass#) CFLOOP COLLECTION=#MyRecordset# ITEM=file2 CFOUTPUT #file2.Company_Name# /CFOUTPUT /CFLOOP Everything seem to work fine until it get to the loop. At this point I get the following error. unknown exception condition unknown error while executing a tag. I can send the VB project code if any of you think it may be helpful. If I am doing this incorrectly, an example of the correct procedure would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, David __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: UPS E-commerce online tools (XML) and CF and Ben Forta's CF_UPSPrice tags impending death?
Two years seems reasonable to me - more than most companies give you for migration. If it makes programmers unhappy, it's b/c they'll realize that they have been lazy for 2 years. --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Mark W. Breneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 11:47 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: UPS E-commerce online tools (XML) and CF and Ben Forta's CF_UPSPrice tags impending death? Has anyone seen a custom tag that talks to UPS E-commerce online tools (XML) for shipping rates? I have found tags for time-in-transit and package tracking but, not for shipping rates. I am leaning toward using CF ratemonger, but I would rather have something with no maintenance. cf_Rumor We had a meeting with two UPS reps the other day and they said that they were expecting the cgi interface to ups shipping rate would most likely start the two year phase out cycle starting this next January. So, if we are to believe this UPS reps expectation then Ben Forta's CF_UPSPrice, that uses the cgi interface, will stop working about Jan 2005. Again, just hear say from a UPS rep and by no means an official statement by UPS. Take it for what it is worth. /cf_Rumor I find this issue interesting due to the large amount of sites that use the cgi interface to get ups shipping rates and that if, UPS were to do away with the cgi interface the amount of unhappy CF, ASP, PHP and CGI programmers there would be. But, two years is a long time. Thoughts? / more info? Mark W. Breneman -Macromedia Certified ColdFusion 5 Developer -Network / Web Server Administrator Vivid Media [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.vividmedia.com 608.270.9770 __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Quick Keys
You can do some of that, but would you really want to? If someone remapped my F5 key from refresh to whatever, I'd get annoyed (you might have a good reason) --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: S V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:57 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Quick Keys I am developing a web site that needs to simulate the Program Function keys on a keyboard, (F1, F2,...F12) . I am aware that access keys in an A Href =X.com accesskey = XClick here/a . But this only allows for a user to press ALT-X to activate that link. Is there a way to Press the F5 key and it activate a link?? ___ Sent by ePrompter, the premier email notification software. Free download at http://www.ePrompter.com. _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Cracking an Access file
There's all sorts of apps out there to do this. Google should find what you need. --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 1:40 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Cracking an Access file Ok my fair friends ;) Thanks for all the help on the text editor I used TEXTPAD works pretty well opened a 500 meg files with it ;) And now I have an access file that has a username/password. I need to get access to the file and I don't remember the logins. Any idea how to crack an access file ;) Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Ediets.com Macromedia Certified Coldfusion Developer 954.360.9022 X159 __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: subscription
The same way you did. --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Mario Martinez R. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:17 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: subscription Hi all: Could someone tell me the procedure to subscribe somebody else in this list?? regards Mario _ Do You Yahoo!? Información de Estados Unidos y América Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. VisÃtanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: ToBinary error
On that note, I recall hearing that there are some performance issues at stake by raising the buffer size - if so, might not be a bad idea to set up multiple DSN's --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ToBinary error I figured it out. It was a size issue. That graphic was 62K. The biggest I had tried other that that was only 12k. I had to Enable Retrieval of Long Text in the ODBC connection and increase the buffer size. Thanks if you were attempting to find a solution to this problem. = = = Original message = = = I wrote an app that inserts uploaded and cfhttp download images into a SQL-server and from there writes the images out to all my mirrored servers. It works great, however, I have this one graphic from a partner that provieds me with weather info. The graphic changes every 15 min so I grab it every 15 min. Here's the problem: That file and that file only gives me this error when I try to convert it to binary: Parameter 1 of function toBinary which is now /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQAAAQABAADreally big stringGBQgHBwcJCQ... must be a base64-encoded string. Any ideas? BJ ___ Sent by ePrompter, the premier email notification software. Free download at http://www.ePrompter.com. __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: OT - .NET and CF
Keep in mind that .NET compatible can mean several things: 1) the ability to create and consume web services (doable in CF now using SOAP toolkit and other means) 2) the ability to speak to the .NET CLR - ability to talk directly to NET CLR classes and/or ability to utilize .NET components (could be done on a custom basis using COM interop in Visual Studio .NET) 3) compatibility with various .NET servers (really just a nifty naming convention by MS - varies by server - for example, both SQL Server 2000 and BizTalk are considered .NET servers) NET is one of those ambiguous terms, like Enterprise or J2EE. What exactly do you mean by .NET compatible? Even though Macromedia will probably say that they want to play with Microsoft, it seems unlikely that will happen, since J2EE is really diametrically opposed to .NET. (Kinda like forming a partnership with Pepsi but continuing to sell Coke products) (note: some parts of .NET, like SOAP for example, are not .NET specific, but I hear support for those pieces named as .NET compatible because .NET is a cooler buzzword than SOAP) --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Mike Bruce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 8:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT - .NET and CF Hi all, I love CF but also want to increase my skills to other languages. Namely ASP.NET. Does anyone know if Macromedia is working on a way to make CF NET compatible? TIA Mike Bruce __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Macromedia XML feed contest
Fascinating that the feed isn't in WDDX - you have to use an external method of parsing it. --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 6:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Fw: Macromedia XML feed contest Originally posted to CF-Community Hi CF Community! I wanted to be sure you all knew about the Macromedia Designer Developer Center XML feed contest. Quick details: We've created a publicly accessible XML feed that allows anyone to provide information on their website about the latest Macromedia Designer Developer Center resources (http://www.macromedia.com/desdev). To help promote this new XML feed to our designer and developer community, we've created the Macromedia XML Feed Contest. Integrate the XML feed into your website and submit it as an entry before May 15, 2002, and you'll be entered in our XML Feed Contest for a chance to win a digital camera or an MP3 player. More information at: http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/xml_feed/ The Designer Developer Center features ColdFusion very heavily, so this XML feed may be of particular interest to those of you running CF community sites both large and small. Please check it out! Also, please feel free to forward this message to other CF lists or forums, or let me know if you think there's somewhere I should announce it, and I'll try to get it out there. Thanks! Vernon Viehe Community Manager Macromedia, Inc. __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: SQL Booger of a query
Doable? Implementation depends on your database and structure. --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Paul Giesenhagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:14 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: SQL Booger of a query I have the following table NameGrandparentParentChild Fishing10000 Reels 10010 Baitcast 10011 Spinning 10012 Hunting20000 Archery20010 Bows20011 I am going nuts trying to write a query that will give the final result of: Fishing/Reels/Baitcast Fishing/Reels/Spinning Hunting/Archery/Bows ect... Is this possible to do in a query? Any help from you master minds would be helpful... My request was to not have queries within a loop so I am not sure it is doable .. ANY suggestions welcome! Paul Giesenhagen QuillDesign http://www.quilldesign.com SiteDirector v2.0 - Commerce Builder __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Macromedia XML feed contest
I just found it unusual in the sense that I can enter the contest using the following URL, which might not be in MM's best interests :-) http://www.mywebsite.com/mmfeed.aspx --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Cravens, Billy Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:31 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Macromedia XML feed contest Fascinating that the feed isn't in WDDX - you have to use an external method of parsing it. --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 6:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Fw: Macromedia XML feed contest Originally posted to CF-Community Hi CF Community! I wanted to be sure you all knew about the Macromedia Designer Developer Center XML feed contest. Quick details: We've created a publicly accessible XML feed that allows anyone to provide information on their website about the latest Macromedia Designer Developer Center resources (http://www.macromedia.com/desdev). To help promote this new XML feed to our designer and developer community, we've created the Macromedia XML Feed Contest. Integrate the XML feed into your website and submit it as an entry before May 15, 2002, and you'll be entered in our XML Feed Contest for a chance to win a digital camera or an MP3 player. More information at: http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/xml_feed/ The Designer Developer Center features ColdFusion very heavily, so this XML feed may be of particular interest to those of you running CF community sites both large and small. Please check it out! Also, please feel free to forward this message to other CF lists or forums, or let me know if you think there's somewhere I should announce it, and I'll try to get it out there. Thanks! Vernon Viehe Community Manager Macromedia, Inc. __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: SQL Booger of a query
After you finish reading about cursors, look for the alternatives and reasons why cursors hurt your performance :-) --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Tim Heald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SQL Booger of a query Look in the books online at cursors. I am still only learning them myself, but they will allow you to do this. If you get the SQL below working let me know, because that's just cool. Tim Heald ACP/CCFD Application Development www.schoollink.net -Original Message- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:54 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SQL Booger of a query Not actual working code. And probably horrible SQL, but its all I know how to do. That said, it might get you started. select a.name as gparent, b.name as parent, c.name as child from db as a, db as b, db as c where a.parent=0 and b.parent=1 and b.child=0 and c.grandparent=b.grandparent and b.grandparent=a.grandparent Jerry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/24/02 03:36PM Explain what you mean Thanks Paul Giesenhagen QuillDesign http://www.quilldesign.com SiteDirector v2.0 - Commerce Builder Doable? Implementation depends on your database and structure. --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Paul Giesenhagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:14 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: SQL Booger of a query I have the following table NameGrandparentParentChild Fishing10000 Reels 10010 Baitcast 10011 Spinning 10012 Hunting20000 Archery20010 Bows20011 I am going nuts trying to write a query that will give the final result of: Fishing/Reels/Baitcast Fishing/Reels/Spinning Hunting/Archery/Bows ect... Is this possible to do in a query? Any help from you master minds would be helpful... My request was to not have queries within a loop so I am not sure it is doable .. ANY suggestions welcome! Paul Giesenhagen QuillDesign http://www.quilldesign.com SiteDirector v2.0 - Commerce Builder __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Macromedia XML feed contest
That was a fake link - trying to get a chuckle out of ppl when they see the file extension --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:33 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Macromedia XML feed contest Paul wrote: ...I guess WDDX isn't cool enough :) I don't think that's it at all. The XML feed was developed by one of our Flash folks (Mike Chambers), and he felt that the way he put it together would be most useful. Another XML format that Mike could have chosen, was RSS, but he felt it needed some fine tuning to be best. My understanding is that WDDX is way cool, but just not necessarily the ideal format for this purpose. -Vern P.S Billy, I didn't see anyting at: http://www.mywebsite.com/mmfeed.aspx. is it gone already? Remember, this is a contest, for which there will be judges - that should help address any sort of less-than-favorable application of the XML feed. =) __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Macromedia XML feed contest
No reason why it couldn't be WDDX'ed - I simply thought that MM might want to utilize features in their production products (CF5 support WDDX natively, but not XML) --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Mike Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 4:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Macromedia XML feed contest WDDX wasn't really meant for this sort of data. What would be the advantage of putting it into WDDX? CF5 has native support for WDDX? - The beauty of XML is that it is not tied to any implementation. - There are already a number of third party libraries / tags that parse the XML into native cf data structures: http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/logged_in/ btw, i get just as many emails from people asking why the feed doesn't adhere to the RSS dtd (it was not flexible enough for us). thoughts? mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 4:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Macromedia XML feed contest It seems like it would be perfect for this. Would they consider creating a 2nd feed as WDDX? = = = Original message = = = Paul wrote: ...I guess WDDX isn't cool enough :) I don't think that's it at all. The XML feed was developed by one of our Flash folks (Mike Chambers), and he felt that the way he put it together would be most useful. Another XML format that Mike could have chosen, was RSS, but he felt it needed some fine tuning to be best. My understanding is that WDDX is way cool, but just not necessarily the ideal format for this purpose. -Vern P.S Billy, I didn't see anyting at: http://www.mywebsite.com/mmfeed.aspx. is it gone already? Remember, this is a contest, for which there will be judges - that should help address any sort of less-than-favorable application of the XML feed. =) __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF's Most Wanted ::
Already there: cffile action=UPLOAD filefield=attachment ... cfmail to=#to# from=#from# subject=#subject# mimeattach=#cffile.serverFile# --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Douglas Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 6:05 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF's Most Wanted :: You have to uplaod files to the server, before you can use them in the mail tag Billy. That is unless your clients are using your server to send the files with. Success is a journey, not a destination!! Doug Brown - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 3:16 PM Subject: RE: CF's Most Wanted :: Huh? You can already attach files - and what would server-side code be uploading to? --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Douglas Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 4:09 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF's Most Wanted :: I would like to see an uplaod feature built in to cfmail for attachments!!! Success is a journey, not a destination!! Doug Brown - Original Message - From: Matthew Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 2:00 PM Subject: Re: CF's Most Wanted :: I'd like to see custom tags able to tell CF to process the code inside. Some tags do, like cfoutput and cfquery, while some don't like cfloop. I'd like to be able to do this too with my custom tags without having to plonk ugly cfoutput tags inside each invocation. - Original Message - From: Tyler Silcox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 2:05 AM Subject: CF's Most Wanted :: (Features, that is...) With all this talk of learning other languages to flesh out your portfolio, and more importantly your knowledge, along with the looming release of NEO/CFMX, I've been trying to think of the features that I currently miss in my ColdFusion. And I thought what better way to get Macromedia's attention, then by creating a heated discussion among the leading, path-forging cf users, which obviously reside on this list (yes, I'm buttering you up.) It seams to me that we see some of the same issues puzzling new or begginer users over and over again, or some great features that are available though creative uses of custom tags are not readily available to those developers hosting on shared servers. And I feel that MM could easily add some nice new tags or attributes to current tags that solve most everyone's problems (and I know nothing is that easy, but it'd be nice.) I also know most of us have submitted feature requests on MM's site, but the community never really geats to chime in. So what I'd like to do is gather up a few of your ideas for improving ColdFusion just to let MM know what we're are thinking. I'm also very interested in what other developers are thinking, and I'm sure y'all are too. I know that timing probably isn't the best for their very, very busy brains over in MM land right now, but there really isn't anytime better than the present. Here's some of the basic probelms that I've come across and that I've seen pop up on this list over and over from the last couple of years: cfmail/cfpop: Needs more stability, more power, ability to read and write multi-part messages (at least), maybe kill the spool or move straight to the a Java spool (with NEO's Java backbone, there really is no excuse not to revamp this tag) cfimage (new tag): Abilty to resize images on the fly, store in cache, read dimensions, etc. (should be a cinch with Macromedia's expertise in graphic products [yea, right]) locking: Needs to protect the server. Period. cfgraph: Use flash to it's fullest. The current tag is a start, but still weak. Needs options galore. cfdirectory: Please just give us one more attribute (filesonly=True, or type=file) or update filter to accept type=file or type=dir. Those directory dots irk me 99% of the time I use the tag. c# support: I'm not even sure this is a possilbilty and it's probably a little early to call for it, but something to think about. And I know that a lot of these features are available as custom tags, etc, right now. But it's not always a feasible option for many developers who are on a monetary or time constraint, or are just hosting on a public server that doesn't allow custom tags. (Honestly, I'm not trying to put anyone out of business.) NOTE: I'm also aware that some some of these things may already be alleviated or improved upon in NEO. For all the Beta testers and PDA hounds out there, please do not jump in on this discussion and say That's already developed and then the subsequent You're not allowed to say
RE: CF's Most Wanted ::
I use XFile from SoftArtisans, and like it very much, but it's ActiveX, so it wont work in Netscape. Javascript file:// validation does not work in NS4. SA has a Java version of XFile, JFile, that works with NS. --- Billy Cravens __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF's Most Wanted ::
My request: 1) remember the focus on CF as a programming language. Don't throw in every cool feature known to humankind. If you do, you'll have an application server that takes 1 gb to load into memory! If you have to, make additional features modular (like PHP, ASP, Perl, JSP, etc do - the extra functionality isn't part of the primary engine, but rather, in an external library that doesn't consume resources when not in use). --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Tyler Silcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 9:05 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF's Most Wanted :: (Features, that is...) With all this talk of learning other languages to flesh out your portfolio, and more importantly your knowledge, along with the looming release of NEO/CFMX, I've been trying to think of the features that I currently miss in my ColdFusion. And I thought what better way to get Macromedia's attention, then by creating a heated discussion among the leading, path-forging cf users, which obviously reside on this list (yes, I'm buttering you up.) It seams to me that we see some of the same issues puzzling new or begginer users over and over again, or some great features that are available though creative uses of custom tags are not readily available to those developers hosting on shared servers. And I feel that MM could easily add some nice new tags or attributes to current tags that solve most everyone's problems (and I know nothing is that easy, but it'd be nice.) I also know most of us have submitted feature requests on MM's site, but the community never really geats to chime in. So what I'd like to do is gather up a few of your ideas for improving ColdFusion just to let MM know what we're are thinking. I'm also very interested in what other developers are thinking, and I'm sure y'all are too. I know that timing probably isn't the best for their very, very busy brains over in MM land right now, but there really isn't anytime better than the present. Here's some of the basic probelms that I've come across and that I've seen pop up on this list over and over from the last couple of years: cfmail/cfpop: Needs more stability, more power, ability to read and write multi-part messages (at least), maybe kill the spool or move straight to the a Java spool (with NEO's Java backbone, there really is no excuse not to revamp this tag) cfimage (new tag): Abilty to resize images on the fly, store in cache, read dimensions, etc. (should be a cinch with Macromedia's expertise in graphic products [yea, right]) locking: Needs to protect the server. Period. cfgraph: Use flash to it's fullest. The current tag is a start, but still weak. Needs options galore. cfdirectory: Please just give us one more attribute (filesonly=True, or type=file) or update filter to accept type=file or type=dir. Those directory dots irk me 99% of the time I use the tag. c# support: I'm not even sure this is a possilbilty and it's probably a little early to call for it, but something to think about. And I know that a lot of these features are available as custom tags, etc, right now. But it's not always a feasible option for many developers who are on a monetary or time constraint, or are just hosting on a public server that doesn't allow custom tags. (Honestly, I'm not trying to put anyone out of business.) NOTE: I'm also aware that some some of these things may already be alleviated or improved upon in NEO. For all the Beta testers and PDA hounds out there, please do not jump in on this discussion and say That's already developed and then the subsequent You're not allowed to say that and then I have to say Please keep this discussion in a pre-NEO context etc, etc. So, I'll go ahead and say that now, please keep this discussion to pre-NEO improvements. Although NEO is on it's way, please just submit features you have thought and dreamt about prior to NEO, and future releases. Anyways, I really think that the best minds in the cf community are hanging amidst us, so please share your thoughts and ideas, and maybe we can make CF an even easier, more robust, powerful product- Tyler Silcox email | [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Need SQL Server version of createtable_Access
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclientquerytime=KQMXjBq=%2B%2 2sql+server+7%22+%2B%22create+table%22 --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Vishal Narayan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 6:05 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Need SQL Server version of createtable_Access I found on the Allaire Developer's Exchange a custom tag called createtable_Access, which allows me to create a table in any MS Access ODBC datasource accessible through ColdFusion, in which we can define Primary Key, Required fields (Not Null), and Unique values. What I need is a SQL Server version of this tag. Does anyone know if such a tag is available ? I need to be able to create new tables through a web-based interface on my SQL 2000 DB. Vishal. __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFLIB question
I doubt MM would (nor should they be obligated to). However, I think (with the exception of CFX's and encrypted tags) the beauty of open source comes out (believe it or not, there's more to open source than politics and Slashdot MS bashing) - many eyes, so problems are unlikely to go unnoticed. However, to truly answer your question: no. There's no guarantee of the quality, security, or safety of the code. If this is unacceptable per your business needs, then I would abandon using the free code. --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Rafael (Alan Bleiweiss) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 9:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFLIB question I hope nobody takes offense at this question it is, however, a reasonable question from the bigger perspective of running a company... Does anyone at MM ever check the custom tags posted to the gallery or at MindTool check the UDFs posted to CFLIB for security flaws, hack code, etc? Again, to everyone on the list in general, I've never once had any contact with anyone in the CF community where there was a problem of this nature - it's just that the potential risks are huge for anyone downloading a server level tag to speed up site-deployment. My company has made use of several over the years and we don't always have the technical ability in-house to analyze them before deployment... At 10:53 AM 04/23/2002 -0400, you wrote: a href=javascript:history.back(-2) Where -2 means you move back two pages. Cheers, Brendan At 03:30 PM 4/23/2002 +0100, you wrote: Greetings, I know not purely CF, but Does anyone know how, or a substitute to get the history.back() function to move back to pages, (instead of in increments) jumping back to a page, 2 or more positions in the browser history, i.e. visit page one then visit page two then visit page three then click a history.back() button, but instead of going back to page two, jump directly back to page one, the reason is to access a query object again created at that point, that was not recreated in steps form 2 to 3. Hope this makes sense, Repsectfully, J __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: A way to hide the CF source on a website?
Keep in mind that the Java .class file portability is only something that was mentioned in early whitepapers and some early demo's - until this is confirmed as being in the next product, I would caution against basing any business models on what is, until in a production-level product, vapor-ware. --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 10:31 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: A way to hide the CF source on a website? I'll be honest, there is not way! yes you can encrypt it with cfencrypt and I can download a program that will unencrypt it. there is no way for someone to right-click in their browser to view your CF code.(NOTE: this is possible with the .htr and a bunch of other security flaws. are you up to date on all your security patches?) the only thing you can do is way until CFMX hits. if you happened to watch the presentation that they did for it at CFSOUTH, (can't remember which one, anyone know? they had this posted on MM site for awhile) supposedly you can now compile your CFM templates to JAVA CLASS files and delete the CFM templates from the server. Thus protecting your code. Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Ken Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 11:23 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: A way to hide the CF source on a website? Depends on what you mean by hide and who you are wanting to hide it from. Ken -Original Message- From: Charles Nahm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 11:33 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: A way to hide the CF source on a website? Is there a way to do this? Thanks, Charles __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: end of month function
function eom(date) {
return createDate(year(date),month(date),daysInMonth(date));
}
---
Billy Cravens
-Original Message-
From: Perez, Percy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 10:33 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: end of month function
Hello all,
Is there a End of month function in ColdFusion...
I am trying to get the end of month for a date.
excel has one, but I could not find one under the help files.
eg:
eomonth(1-15-2002) would return 1-31-2002
and of course, before I build one, I figure I ask first.
Thanks
Percy E Perez
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RE: CF's Most Wanted ::
You can send multiple attachments in cf4.5+ - using cfmailparam tag. --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Douglas Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 10:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF's Most Wanted :: Hmmm why is this one going on so long. I realize that we have the ever so useful cffile tag, but would like to see something on the order of the cffile action=UPLOAD filefield=attachment ... being integrated into cfmail and on another note I would LOVE to see the ability for multiple attachments without using multiple cfmail tags. Success is a journey, not a destination!! Doug Brown - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 7:09 AM Subject: RE: CF's Most Wanted :: Already there: cffile action=UPLOAD filefield=attachment ... cfmail to=#to# from=#from# subject=#subject# mimeattach=#cffile.serverFile# --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Douglas Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 6:05 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF's Most Wanted :: You have to uplaod files to the server, before you can use them in the mail tag Billy. That is unless your clients are using your server to send the files with. Success is a journey, not a destination!! Doug Brown - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 3:16 PM Subject: RE: CF's Most Wanted :: Huh? You can already attach files - and what would server-side code be uploading to? --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Douglas Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 4:09 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF's Most Wanted :: I would like to see an uplaod feature built in to cfmail for attachments!!! Success is a journey, not a destination!! Doug Brown - Original Message - From: Matthew Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 2:00 PM Subject: Re: CF's Most Wanted :: I'd like to see custom tags able to tell CF to process the code inside. Some tags do, like cfoutput and cfquery, while some don't like cfloop. I'd like to be able to do this too with my custom tags without having to plonk ugly cfoutput tags inside each invocation. - Original Message - From: Tyler Silcox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 2:05 AM Subject: CF's Most Wanted :: (Features, that is...) With all this talk of learning other languages to flesh out your portfolio, and more importantly your knowledge, along with the looming release of NEO/CFMX, I've been trying to think of the features that I currently miss in my ColdFusion. And I thought what better way to get Macromedia's attention, then by creating a heated discussion among the leading, path-forging cf users, which obviously reside on this list (yes, I'm buttering you up.) It seams to me that we see some of the same issues puzzling new or begginer users over and over again, or some great features that are available though creative uses of custom tags are not readily available to those developers hosting on shared servers. And I feel that MM could easily add some nice new tags or attributes to current tags that solve most everyone's problems (and I know nothing is that easy, but it'd be nice.) I also know most of us have submitted feature requests on MM's site, but the community never really geats to chime in. So what I'd like to do is gather up a few of your ideas for improving ColdFusion just to let MM know what we're are thinking. I'm also very interested in what other developers are thinking, and I'm sure y'all are too. I know that timing probably isn't the best for their very, very busy brains over in MM land right now, but there really isn't anytime better than the present. Here's some of the basic probelms that I've come across and that I've seen pop up on this list over and over from the last couple of years: cfmail/cfpop: Needs more stability, more power, ability to read and write multi-part messages (at least), maybe kill the spool or move straight to the a Java spool (with NEO's Java backbone, there really is no excuse not to revamp this tag) cfimage (new tag): Abilty to resize images on the fly, store in cache, read dimensions, etc. (should be a cinch with Macromedia's expertise in graphic products [yea, right]) locking: Needs to protect the server. Period. cfgraph: Use flash to it's fullest. The current tag is a start, but still weak. Needs options galore. cfdirectory: Please
RE: A way to hide the CF source on a website?
Tony, Prepare to be flamed. That happened to me when I posted that link once. How dare you! You have totally ruined my entire business model! I'm going to lose all sorts of money due to people decrypting my five line encrypted custom tag that I'm charging $149 for! It's all your fault, because there's no way that a five-second search on Google could have found that link! --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 10:35 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: A way to hide the CF source on a website? http://shrewm.net/cfd/ Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 11:28 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: A way to hide the CF source on a website? Try the encryption utility. Or if you have the time, write a utility like py2exe (python's executable generator). On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, Charles Nahm wrote: Is there a way to do this? Thanks, Charles __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: File Attachments to Email
You have to use cffile to save the file to the server: cffile action=UPLOAD filefield=attachFile destination=c:\ nameconflict=MAKEUNIQUE After saving the file, a number of #cffile.*# variables are available to you. Of importance is #cffile.serverFile#, which is the name of the file once saved to the server (in case the name had to be changed to be unique). Use this in cfmail: cfmail from=#FromEmail# to=#E_Mail# subject=#Subject# query=StaffList mimeattach=#cffile.serverFile# --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Rollo, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 1:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: File Attachments to Email Hi All. 1st post. I gather email info (subject, message, etc.) on a form and use input type=file name=AttachFile size=40 to get the path of a file attachment (if there is one). Example of the value in AttachFile is C:\compl.txt When I pass this info on to the next module and use cfmail from=#FromEmail# to=#E_Mail# subject=#Subject# query=StaffList mimeattach=#AttachFile# CF looks for the file compl.txt on the server C drive and thus I keep getting Cannot attach 'C:\compl.txt' to the mail message. The file does not exist. Can anyone tell me how I can attach files from my (users) PCs and not have the code go to the server to try and find the file. Many thanks in advance for any help. __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Can I do this with CF client variables?
Each instance of a variable is 1:1, but there's no reason why multiple instances of a variable cannot contain the same value. #client.userid# on machine a and b are separate variables, but they can both contain mrbill --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 4:28 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Can I do this with CF client variables? I'm probably making it more complex than it needs to be. If I'm setting CF client variables, for instance, just a UserID to identify a returning member (customer, employee, whatever), will CF recognize the returning client from more than one computer? Maybe my misunderstanding stems from not thoroughly understanding how cookies are implemented. With CF client variables, can a 1:many (one set of client variables to many computers/cookies) relationship exist, or must it be 1:1? Jim - Original Message - From: Jim McAtee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 11:24 AM Subject: Can I do this with CF client variables? I'm developing a discussion application where logins are required, but I'd like to recognize returning members without a login. So, I'll use a cookie. A little bit simpler is to use CF client variables (cookie based). My question is whether it will be possible to have a person automatically recognized by cookie based client variables on more than one computer, without forcing them to login again. That is, say someone commonly uses the discussion application from both their work computer and from their home computer. Can I use CF client variables and be able to have CF recognize the person from each computer? Jim __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF and Business Logic
I agree 100%. C++ and VB syntax covers most of what you have down there, and the fundamentals of those languages prepares for pretty much anything else you'll run across. A couple of extra concepts, like OO and SQL, and you're really cooking. --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 2:40 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF and Business Logic You would be surprised. I have found that once you understand C and C++ well, you can learn any language in a matter of weeks. My current list of languages I have proficiency with is as follows. C, C++, C#, J#, VB, VB.NET, VBA, ColdFusion, Java, JavaScript, Jscript, VBscript, ASP, ASP.NET, PHP, TCL, PERL, AWK, SH, BASH, HTML, XHTML, XML, XSL, PL/SQL, T-SQL More recently I have started playing with Python, Ruby, and Eiffel. And when I am looking to stretch my mind into AI territory, I play with Lisp, Scheme, and Prolog. -Matt -Original Message- From: Douglas Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 12:12 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF and Business Logic H wonder if I could do that in my life time. What a resume it would be though. C C# C++ Javascript java php asp coldfusion perl delphi mfc vb assembly pascal html xml jsp actionscript Success is a journey, not a destination!! Doug Brown - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 8:41 AM Subject: RE: CF and Business Logic No, I was serious about trying to learn every language there is. Although, you could avoid the strictly academic languages if time is an issue. :) -Matt -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 4:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF and Business Logic Do yourself a service and learn every language under the Sun ... Is this a subtle push in the direction of Java specifically? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Ben Forta's CFX_Spell tag -- demo?
An alternative is spellchecker.net --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: jon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 11:14 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Ben Forta's CFX_Spell tag -- demo? Hey folks... We're considering the addition of Ben Forta's CFX_Spell tag to our site, and while I don't doubt the complete awesomeness of it, it would be really cool to take a look at it before we plunk down the $$$. (We are, after all, a nonprofit.) Anyone got a publicly accessible usage of it I could take a quick look at it? Thanks... -- jon - jon roig senior manager, online production epilepsy foundation site: http://www.epilepsyfoundation.org email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF's Most Wanted ::
Huh? You can already attach files - and what would server-side code be uploading to? --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Douglas Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 4:09 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF's Most Wanted :: I would like to see an uplaod feature built in to cfmail for attachments!!! Success is a journey, not a destination!! Doug Brown - Original Message - From: Matthew Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 2:00 PM Subject: Re: CF's Most Wanted :: I'd like to see custom tags able to tell CF to process the code inside. Some tags do, like cfoutput and cfquery, while some don't like cfloop. I'd like to be able to do this too with my custom tags without having to plonk ugly cfoutput tags inside each invocation. - Original Message - From: Tyler Silcox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 2:05 AM Subject: CF's Most Wanted :: (Features, that is...) With all this talk of learning other languages to flesh out your portfolio, and more importantly your knowledge, along with the looming release of NEO/CFMX, I've been trying to think of the features that I currently miss in my ColdFusion. And I thought what better way to get Macromedia's attention, then by creating a heated discussion among the leading, path-forging cf users, which obviously reside on this list (yes, I'm buttering you up.) It seams to me that we see some of the same issues puzzling new or begginer users over and over again, or some great features that are available though creative uses of custom tags are not readily available to those developers hosting on shared servers. And I feel that MM could easily add some nice new tags or attributes to current tags that solve most everyone's problems (and I know nothing is that easy, but it'd be nice.) I also know most of us have submitted feature requests on MM's site, but the community never really geats to chime in. So what I'd like to do is gather up a few of your ideas for improving ColdFusion just to let MM know what we're are thinking. I'm also very interested in what other developers are thinking, and I'm sure y'all are too. I know that timing probably isn't the best for their very, very busy brains over in MM land right now, but there really isn't anytime better than the present. Here's some of the basic probelms that I've come across and that I've seen pop up on this list over and over from the last couple of years: cfmail/cfpop: Needs more stability, more power, ability to read and write multi-part messages (at least), maybe kill the spool or move straight to the a Java spool (with NEO's Java backbone, there really is no excuse not to revamp this tag) cfimage (new tag): Abilty to resize images on the fly, store in cache, read dimensions, etc. (should be a cinch with Macromedia's expertise in graphic products [yea, right]) locking: Needs to protect the server. Period. cfgraph: Use flash to it's fullest. The current tag is a start, but still weak. Needs options galore. cfdirectory: Please just give us one more attribute (filesonly=True, or type=file) or update filter to accept type=file or type=dir. Those directory dots irk me 99% of the time I use the tag. c# support: I'm not even sure this is a possilbilty and it's probably a little early to call for it, but something to think about. And I know that a lot of these features are available as custom tags, etc, right now. But it's not always a feasible option for many developers who are on a monetary or time constraint, or are just hosting on a public server that doesn't allow custom tags. (Honestly, I'm not trying to put anyone out of business.) NOTE: I'm also aware that some some of these things may already be alleviated or improved upon in NEO. For all the Beta testers and PDA hounds out there, please do not jump in on this discussion and say That's already developed and then the subsequent You're not allowed to say that and then I have to say Please keep this discussion in a pre-NEO context etc, etc. So, I'll go ahead and say that now, please keep this discussion to pre-NEO improvements. Although NEO is on it's way, please just submit features you have thought and dreamt about prior to NEO, and future releases. Anyways, I really think that the best minds in the cf community are hanging amidst us, so please share your thoughts and ideas, and maybe we can make CF an even easier, more robust, powerful product- Tyler Silcox email | [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives:
RE: CF's Most Wanted ::
I wouldn't want to see too much of that. A quick glance shows over 3000 custom tags in the Gallery - who chooses which custom tags go in? And that wouldn't solve your problem - if you have 100 custom tags you use today, and 99 of them are integrated in a future edition, you still have to play games with your host's support. --- Billy Cravens (who thinks there is such a thing as TOO MUCH out of the box functionality) -Original Message- From: Rick Eidson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 9:17 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF's Most Wanted :: I think would be great to start seeing some of the custom tags built in to new versions of CF. I have some sites that are hosted on servers I do not control so I can't use some cutome tags or it takes me day's to get support to install something I need now. Rick -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 9:18 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF's Most Wanted :: Abilty to resize images on the fly, store in cache, read dimensions, etc. (should be a cinch with Macromedia's expertise in graphic products [yea, right]) There are plenty of CFX tags out there that do this. I'm not saying we shouldn't do it - just that solutions exist already. :) locking: Needs to protect the server. Period. Sure - the answer is to use locking - but I'm assuming your saying that we _shouldnt_ need locking for server stability. There will _always_ be a need for logical type locks. cfdirectory: Please just give us one more attribute (filesonly=True, or type=file) or update filter to accept type=file or type=dir. Those directory dots irk me 99% of the time I use the tag. Hey, just use startrow=3 when looping. ;) c# support: I'm not even sure this is a possilbilty and it's probably a little early to call for it, but something to think about. Um - you mean writing C#? Why? That's like asking for Perl support. Why not just use perl.exe? NOTE: I'm also aware that some some of these things may already be alleviated or improved upon in NEO. For all the Beta testers and PDA hounds out there, please do not jump in on this discussion and say That's already developed and then the subsequent You're not allowed to say that and then I have to say Please keep this discussion in a pre-NEO context etc, etc. So, I'll go ahead and say that now, please keep this discussion to pre-NEO improvements. Although NEO is on it's way, please just submit features you have thought and dreamt about prior to NEO, and future releases. Neo, what's Neo? :) === Raymond Camden, Principal Spectra Compliance Engineer for Macromedia Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo IM : morpheus My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. - Yoda __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Paypal Subscriptions...
No need to use Perl. They have CF sample code on their site that does the same thing (not that it's rocket science; easy enough to code yourself). --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Randell B Adkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 8:52 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Paypal Subscriptions... I have done Donations using Paypal and never needed a Perl Script of any suit. You can also have it redirect the end user back to a page you design after payment. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/19/02 09:40AM Hi all- I've a customer who is likely going to go with Paypal for recurring subscriptions (thanks to all who gave suggestions for solutions), which upon investigation looks like a pretty robust service, and about the cheapest I've found. I was wondering if any of you have implemented it, and whether or not you've used their IPN (Instant Payment Notification) stuff. It looks like you need to implement a Perl script on the server, which I'm trying to avoid, because I've never configured ActivePerl on a Win2K box (properly) before. Anyone know if there are alternatives? Anyone have any thoughts or comments on using this service? Good or bad, all advice is welcome. Thanks... Kevin Langevin Flying Chimp Media 954-585-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FlyingChimp.com __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF and Business Logic
kinda hokey - when you're dealing with someone with such an advanced vocabulary, you should drop all that you know, trust their knowledge without question, cuz it's obvious they are the top of the bell curve. --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Venable, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:17 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF and Business Logic More of a philosophical question. I was meeting with a potential subcontractor the other day and he made the remark that once you get into serious business logic, cold fusion is kinda hokey. Anyone care to possibly elaborate on what he might've meant? Or is this just another one of those anti-CF prejudices? Just wondering, John Venable __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Server Logging Questions
Totally depends on your database. If it's Access, probably not. If it's something more scalable, probably. There's no service pack, but individual hotfixes at http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/updates/5/updates_5.html --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Mark M. Kecko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 10:20 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Server Logging Questions Do you think that running multiple SQL statements within the same CFQuery tag(below) could cause this? cfquery Insert Into Table1 Insert Into Table2. Insert Into Table3 /cfquery Thanks in advance. -mark Is there a SP pkg for CF Server 5, if so where can I download it? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 5:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Server Logging Questions Typically the result of using Access. See: http://www.macromedia.com/v1/handlers/index.cfm?ID=1540Method=Full --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Mark M. Kecko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 4:30 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF Server Logging Questions Hi, I've got a CF5 Server running on NT4 and it seems as though the CF service is causing the server to crash. Something is causing 100% processor tie-up, which hogs memory and eventually crashes the server. I've looked for endless loops and the such in my apps and haven't been able to find any. These are some entries that I'm concerned about from my SERVER.LOG and WEBSERVER.LOG log files. I don't really know what these errors mean or what's causing them, but I'm hoping that they're related to my problem. If anybody could shed some light on these log entries it would be appreciated, thanks. -mark kecko Server.LOG Error,461,04/18/02,14:19:31,,Windows NT error number 232 occurred. Error,702,04/18/02,14:19:32,,Error number 232 occurred while attempting to write the reply to the web server. Error,702,04/18/02,14:19:32,,Windows NT error number 232 occurred. Error,702,04/18/02,14:19:32,,Error number 232 occurred attempting to close connection to web server. Error,702,04/18/02,14:19:32,,Windows NT error number 232 occurred. Error,273,04/18/02,14:19:35,,Error number 232 occurred attempting to close connection to web server. Error,273,04/18/02,14:19:35,,Windows NT error number 232 occurred. Error,461,04/18/02,14:19:41,,Error number 232 occurred while attempting to write the reply to the web server. Error,461,04/18/02,14:19:41,,Windows NT error number 232 occurred. Error,461,04/18/02,14:19:41,,Error number 232 occurred attempting to close connection to web server. Error,461,04/18/02,14:19:41,,Windows NT error number 232 occurred. Error,273,04/18/02,14:20:03,,Error number 232 occurred attempting to close connection to web server. Error,273,04/18/02,14:20:03,,Windows NT error number 232 occurred. WebSERVER.LOG** Error,626,04/18/02,14:16:34,,Error attempting to write location redirection to web server (Windows NT error number 16389 occurred) Error,563,04/18/02,14:16:35,,Error attempting to write location redirection to web server (Windows NT error number 16389 occurred) Error,593,04/18/02,14:16:44,,Error attempting to write location redirection to web server (Windows NT error number 16389 occurred) Error,607,04/18/02,14:17:17,,Error attempting to write location redirection to web server (Windows NT error number 16389 occurred) Error,548,04/18/02,14:17:17,,Error attempting to write location redirection to web server (Windows NT error number 16389 occurred) Error,659,04/18/02,14:17:17,,Error attempting to write location redirection to web server (Windows NT error number 16389 occurred) Error,396,04/18/02,14:17:17,,Error attempting to write location redirection to web server (Windows NT error number 16389 occurred) __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Paypal Subscriptions...
If the client is willing to pay a lot of money long term, look at iBill.com (free to start, but 15% of each transaction is very painful) --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Kevin Langevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Paypal Subscriptions... Hmmm...Still researching recurring-fee processing for this client, and it looks like PayFlow isn't any better than other getways from a recurring-fee standpoint. They're just a gateway. FYI...anyone who's interested, Verisign will be offering recurring-fee processing (databasing credit cards so you don't have to) later this year, according to the person I spoke with. It looks like databasing the credit cards is going to be necessary and building the recurring-fee system (no biggie there) myself. New question...does anyone have experience they can lend with regards to encryption solutions? I'm not comfortable with just using CF's encryption to encrypt that database... :) What solutions have you all used? Kevin Langevin Flying Chimp Media 954-585-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FlyingChimp.com __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Histograms in CF 4.5?
I'd do it in SQL (implementation varies by DB): select sum(requestTime) as requestTotal, hour(datefield) as requestHour from yourTable group by hour(datefield) order by hour(datefield) Now you've got a simple recordset that's easily outputted. (You still have to work out the formatting of the hour string - 1 PM instead of 13 - but this is easily done using SQL udf's or CF) --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Tim Claremont [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 1:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Histograms in CF 4.5? I think I have a can't see the forest through the trees type of problem. I have an access database table that logs the timing of an http request many times during the day. So, the table content looks like this: 717 Pass 7656 ms04/19/02 2:30:32 PM 716 Pass 1672 ms04/19/02 2:20:58 PM 715 Pass 1782 ms04/19/02 2:10:58 PM 714 Pass 5281 ms04/19/02 2:01:02 PM The first column is just an incremental counter. What is not obvious from the above table is how the date and time fields work. Date/Time are ONE field in the access table, using the date/time field type. I output them in CF to display separate columns using Date() and Time(). What I want to do is a histogram by hour of the day that depicts the average access time (second column) since the inception of the test. I am not concerned with the date, but rather the hour of the day. S, what I want is the following: 12 AM Avg Time 1 AMAvg Time 2 AMAvg Time 3 AMAvg Time 4 AMAvg Time 5 AMAvg Time 6 AMAvg Time 7 AMAvg Time . . . My hunch is to use a CFLOOP with the #hour(datefield)# approach. Is this the best way?? __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Using cftransaction/cftransaction... Why?
It places all queries within the transaction into a single transaction context - so you can commit or rollback all changes made by all of the queries within the transaction context. --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Charles Nahm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 2:23 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Using cftransaction/cftransaction... Why? Are cftransaction tags necessary for certain types of queries (e.g. queries involving Merant driver access to a DBaseIII database?). I am working with some code from the past and I notice the cftransaction tags in some areas but not in others. Recently I have added more stress/queries to the DBaseIII databases and am noticing big slowdowns in the processes that require access to those files... In: http://www.cfcertification.com/cfdocs/CFML_Language_Reference/2_ColdFusi on_T ags/lr2_098.htm They say it can be used to group multiple transactions into one single business event. What does that mean? Does this mean the database will be locked out until all the functions within the cftransaction tags are finished? Is this a requirement for certain types of db's? Any help/ideas appreciated, you people have been amazing. Thanks. Charles __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Studio - Split for two different files?
Nope, but it would be cool. --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Shawn Grover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 12:39 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF Studio - Split for two different files? Is it possible to view two different files at the same time? Without having to use the selection tabs Kinda like the Window Split function Haven't seen any reference to this capability, but I could be wrong Shawn Grover __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: How to close Excel ODBC connection at end of query
Perhaps you could build a COM object to access the data? (Since ADO gives you more control over when the connection is opened/closed) Or if you're good with COM in C++, you could build a CFX (gives you the advantage of being able to build a cf recordset) --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Dave Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 2:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: How to close Excel ODBC connection at end of query Hi, Further to my problem of aparently retrieving cached query results when using an excel datasource (see earlier email titled Strange behaviour with excel datasource), I've discovered that CF seems to be keeping the ODBC connection alive across requests. Does anybody know how to force a shutdown of excel? I've tried a few different methods to date. Namely: CFSET CFUSION_DISABLE_DBCONNECTIONS(exceldsn, 1) CFSET CFUSION_DISABLE_DBCONNECTIONS(exceldsn, 0) to disable and enable write access to the datasource OR using CFOBJECT !--- Try to connect to the Excel application object --- CFTRY !--- If it exists, connect to it --- CFOBJECT ACTION=CONNECT CLASS=Excel.Application NAME=objExcel TYPE=COM CFCATCH !--- The object doesn't exist, so create it --- CFOBJECT ACTION=CREATE CLASS=Excel.Application NAME=objExcel TYPE=COM /CFCATCH /CFTRY CFSCRIPT // Quit Excel objExcel.Quit(); // Release the object objExcel = Nothing; /CFSCRIPT to try to shut down the connection. This is really frustrating because all I am trying to do is a simple update query (to insert variables to a formula), followed by a select statement to retrieve the result of a formula contained in the excel file. This is analogous to doing an insert, followed by a select to retrieve a new ID numnber using any other RDBMS ODBC drivers. I've even created and triggered (using cfexecute)a DTS package to import the data into SQL 7 after having carried out the update query, but this gives me an error message indicating that the excel file is already in use, despite my various attempts at forcing closure of the file. Any help would be much appreciated, Dave __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Wild Card
Handle your string as a list with a space as your delimiter - compare against each element in the list (st in a word won't be an element by itself) --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Jim Gurfein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 4:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Wild Card I'm stumped... If a city is entered as St Louis, I want to change it to Saint Louis. I did cfif city contains st and did a replacement (note the space after st. However, if I have a city such as East Hartford the st is changed to saint as well... essentially, I need to know if the st (or st.) is stand alone and not preceded by any other letter. Any ideas? Sincerely yours, Jim Gurfein President, CEO RestaurantRow.com, Inc. http://www.restaurantrow.com 914.921.3200 ext 101 914.921.9190 fax __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Issues Tracker / Bug Tracker / Project T.. etc
There's always Sitespring. Also, while it's not CF, PVCS Tracker isn't too shabby. (www.merant.com) --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: WebSite CFtalk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 4:34 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Issues Tracker / Bug Tracker / Project T.. etc Hello! I've looked around for a CF based Issue/Bug/Project tracker. I find a lot of demos/examples but no real apps. The PHP/mySQL based Mantis and DCL looks good, but it's not CF... (http://mantisbt.sourceforge.net / http://dcl.sourceforge.net) Are there any good CF based Issue Tracking apps out there? Thanks, Helge __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Server Logging Questions
Typically the result of using Access. See: http://www.macromedia.com/v1/handlers/index.cfm?ID=1540Method=Full --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Mark M. Kecko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 4:30 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF Server Logging Questions Hi, I've got a CF5 Server running on NT4 and it seems as though the CF service is causing the server to crash. Something is causing 100% processor tie-up, which hogs memory and eventually crashes the server. I've looked for endless loops and the such in my apps and haven't been able to find any. These are some entries that I'm concerned about from my SERVER.LOG and WEBSERVER.LOG log files. I don't really know what these errors mean or what's causing them, but I'm hoping that they're related to my problem. If anybody could shed some light on these log entries it would be appreciated, thanks. -mark kecko Server.LOG Error,461,04/18/02,14:19:31,,Windows NT error number 232 occurred. Error,702,04/18/02,14:19:32,,Error number 232 occurred while attempting to write the reply to the web server. Error,702,04/18/02,14:19:32,,Windows NT error number 232 occurred. Error,702,04/18/02,14:19:32,,Error number 232 occurred attempting to close connection to web server. Error,702,04/18/02,14:19:32,,Windows NT error number 232 occurred. Error,273,04/18/02,14:19:35,,Error number 232 occurred attempting to close connection to web server. Error,273,04/18/02,14:19:35,,Windows NT error number 232 occurred. Error,461,04/18/02,14:19:41,,Error number 232 occurred while attempting to write the reply to the web server. Error,461,04/18/02,14:19:41,,Windows NT error number 232 occurred. Error,461,04/18/02,14:19:41,,Error number 232 occurred attempting to close connection to web server. Error,461,04/18/02,14:19:41,,Windows NT error number 232 occurred. Error,273,04/18/02,14:20:03,,Error number 232 occurred attempting to close connection to web server. Error,273,04/18/02,14:20:03,,Windows NT error number 232 occurred. WebSERVER.LOG** Error,626,04/18/02,14:16:34,,Error attempting to write location redirection to web server (Windows NT error number 16389 occurred) Error,563,04/18/02,14:16:35,,Error attempting to write location redirection to web server (Windows NT error number 16389 occurred) Error,593,04/18/02,14:16:44,,Error attempting to write location redirection to web server (Windows NT error number 16389 occurred) Error,607,04/18/02,14:17:17,,Error attempting to write location redirection to web server (Windows NT error number 16389 occurred) Error,548,04/18/02,14:17:17,,Error attempting to write location redirection to web server (Windows NT error number 16389 occurred) Error,659,04/18/02,14:17:17,,Error attempting to write location redirection to web server (Windows NT error number 16389 occurred) Error,396,04/18/02,14:17:17,,Error attempting to write location redirection to web server (Windows NT error number 16389 occurred) __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: ColdFusion based mass email module
You can send mixed-mode messages: !--- Create a unique ID for the message boundary. --- cfset boundary = CreateUUID() !--- Standard CFMAIL.. Note that the TYPE attribute is not set. --- cfmail to=[EMAIL PROTECTED] from=[EMAIL PROTECTED] subject=test cfmailparam name=Content-Type value=multipart/alternative; boundary=#boundary# --#boundary# Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This is the plain text message for the email. HTML readers will not see this. That is all. End of message --#boundary# Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable html head titleHTML Message/title /head body This is the font size=+2 color=##FFHTML text message/font for the email. This will not be seen with a plain text reader. /body /html --#boundary#-- /cfmail --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Dowdell, Jason G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 1:34 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion based mass email module Justin, Do you have to do anything special if it's an html formatted message? Is there a failover in case the client's email client does not render html? Thanks, jason -Original Message- From: Justin Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 9:57 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion based mass email module That sounds very interesting. Could you include a code snippet or example to show me how to do what you're proposing. I'm not sure the host will allow it but it's definitely worth looking into. I don't know what your clear_newsletter.cfm file does, but here's a sample of the IIS SMTP dump code: --[ snip ]-- cfoutput query=queryname group=email_address cffile action=write file=c:\inetpub\mailroot\pickup\#createuuid()#.txt output=Content-type: text/plain Date: #dateformat(now(), ddd, d mmm )# #timeformat(now(), HH:mm:ss)# -0500 To: #queryname.email_address# From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Subject Would Go Here This is a message being sent to you by... /cfoutput --[ snip ]-- Note that you will need to change the GMT offset in the time to the correct value. The Reply-To header is not needed, but I use that to store a contact address and use a system address (which sends things into null) for the From address so I don't get thousands of delivery errors and autoresponders in my regular mailbox. I hope this helps a little. -Justin Scott, Lead Developer Sceiron Internet Services, Inc. http://www.sceiron.com __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: ColdFusion based mass email module
I had this in a text file copied from a mailing list, so I'm sure some funky returns or wrapping occurred in transit :-) --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 3:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion based mass email module [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can send mixed-mode messages: !--- Create a unique ID for the message boundary. --- cfset boundary = CreateUUID() !--- Standard CFMAIL.. Note that the TYPE attribute is not set. --- cfmail to=[EMAIL PROTECTED] from=[EMAIL PROTECTED] subject=test cfmailparam name=Content-Type value=multipart/alternative; boundary=#boundary# --#boundary# Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 RFC says Content-Type and charset should be on the same line (or the line with charset should start with one or more spaces). Jochem __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
